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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Hammer Territory Podcast. My name is Sean Coleman.

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Speaker 1: Hope wherever you are and wherever you are listening, as always,

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Speaker 1: it is a pleasure to be with you once again.

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Speaker 1: It is Sunday night, July twenty eighth, less than forty

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Speaker 1: eight hours away from the twenty twenty four and it

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Speaker 1: will be trade deadline. And normally in this spot each

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Speaker 1: week you would hear from Brad Rowland and Scott Coleman.

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Speaker 1: But they did a wonderful program last night, and tonight

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Speaker 1: I'm back with my podcast partner Steven Tolbert with plenty

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Speaker 1: to discuss when it comes to the Braise Weekend. Stephen,

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Speaker 1: how are you, sir? Good as always getting to talk

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Speaker 1: Braise baseball with you.

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Speaker 2: What's up, Sean? Yeah, man, it's it's certainly a better

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Speaker 2: vibe than when you and I talked on Thursday night.

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Speaker 2: Whatever night were that atrocious loss to the Mets, all

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Speaker 2: the extra eating stuff that happened that night, So yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know, they rebounded and they were able to get

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Speaker 2: a serious split. They won the last two games. Just

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Speaker 2: better vibes. You know, we're gonna talk about the game

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Speaker 2: today and obviously there was some bad news attached to it,

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Speaker 2: so that's gonna definitely put a damper on it. But

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Speaker 2: they got the losing streak off their back, which is big,

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Speaker 2: and now we're kind of waiting on injury news, and

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Speaker 2: then we got the trade deadline. But yeah, we're gonna

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Speaker 2: talk about it all. But it's always good to do

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Speaker 2: these with you, man.

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Speaker 1: Yep, good talking with you. And then, as you alluded

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Speaker 1: to listen the right when it comes to Sundays, it

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Speaker 1: seems the Braves more often than not, Sunday has not

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Speaker 1: been a fun day. And when it comes to the Braves,

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Speaker 1: you know, either it's disappointing performances on the field. But

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Speaker 1: the last two Sundays it has been significant news on

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Speaker 1: the injury front. Are potential news on the injury front.

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Speaker 1: Of course, a week ago, you know the news about

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Speaker 1: Max Freed, who you know, I will say it does

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Speaker 1: look like, you know, the outlook for Max is definitely

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Speaker 1: more positive than it was a week ago. And of

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Speaker 1: course the you know, injury to Ozzie Albi's But in

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Speaker 1: today's game, yes, the Brave's one nine to two. We'll

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Speaker 1: get into the offensive outburst in just a moment. But

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Speaker 1: the big news of the day so far is that

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Speaker 1: starter Ronaldo Lopez, All Star starter Ronaldo Lopez, who's been

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Speaker 1: you know, the era leader for much of the season.

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Speaker 1: He only went three NS and there was you know,

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Speaker 1: it looks as if, you know, at first, the initial

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Speaker 1: prognosis was, hey, forum tightness, he'll be day to day.

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Speaker 1: But then of course there was more news that he

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Speaker 1: is on his way back to Atlanta and either has

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Speaker 1: or is going to be looked at through an MRI.

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Speaker 1: Because as we all know, forum tightness typically you know,

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Speaker 1: could be you know, an early you know, indicator of

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Speaker 1: some you know, more significant injuries. But the big thing

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Speaker 1: is Stephen we don't know as of yet, We won't know,

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Speaker 1: we're recording a Sunday night, won't know until Monday. But

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Speaker 1: the big thing is is that at the very least,

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Speaker 1: this is not all that positive. This could be you know,

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Speaker 1: maybe it's just a day to day thing, like they said,

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Speaker 1: it could be something much more significant. But the thing is,

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Speaker 1: the Braves just can't afford to lose renaldal Lopez. Yes,

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Speaker 1: they can make moves to the trade deadline, but just

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Speaker 1: at some point, these injuries, especially to the starting staff,

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Speaker 1: have to stop.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's gonna be you know, we're once

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Speaker 2: again playing the the MRI roulette. It seems like, you know,

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Speaker 2: we did it about a week ago with Max about

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Speaker 2: just waiting to hear about the Mriyes, Maxis came out clean.

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Speaker 2: It was all good news. It was just some they

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Speaker 2: called it very minor stuff. And he's scheduled to be

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Speaker 2: back on Friday. And so once again we have to

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Speaker 2: do it with Ronaldo. And you know, I'm not terribly optimistic.

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Speaker 2: I'm being honest. You know, anytime you see four arms

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Speaker 2: strain as the injury designation, that's not good. I mean,

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Speaker 2: you know, people that know the game, and even really

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Speaker 2: casual fans by this point probably know that forearm restrain

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Speaker 2: oftentimes leads to elbow stuff, and that oftentimes leads to

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Speaker 2: kind of the big, big injury for a picture, which

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Speaker 2: we'll get the news tomorrow. They're doing imaging and stuff

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Speaker 2: tonight and we'll find out. But it's a bummer. You know,

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Speaker 2: you know, if it does end up being Tommy John,

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Speaker 2: then you lose all of twenty twenty four and probably

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Speaker 2: like that. So you know, it could be a big

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Speaker 2: deal and it could really change the landscape for the Braves.

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Speaker 2: So it's gonna be very seat. Like, you know, it

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Speaker 2: is good that it happened before the trade deadline. Alex

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Speaker 2: can still go do something about it, but you know,

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Speaker 2: starting pitching is so expensive and there's just not a

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Speaker 2: lot you can do. The Braves don't have. The Braves

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Speaker 2: have a bunch better farm system than they've had in

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Speaker 2: a recent memory. I think Fangrass had them at like

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Speaker 2: the farm system is not nearly as bad as it

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Speaker 2: end talent there now. But still you don't want to

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Speaker 2: be going out and having to acquire starting pitching at

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Speaker 2: the trade deadline. It's just that's literally the most expensive

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Speaker 2: to see. You know, we're we're all just gonna be

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Speaker 2: kind of waiting tomorrow on the Ronaldo news and then

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Speaker 2: the fallout. You know, the trade deadline is on Tuesday,

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Speaker 2: so we're less than forty eight hours away. I'm sure

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Speaker 2: Alex was already at least having preliminary talks about starting

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Speaker 2: the reaction is going to be to that, because again,

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Speaker 2: like you said, you know, they can't afford much more,

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Speaker 2: and after Tuesday, you can't add anybody else to her.

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Speaker 2: You know, there's no there's no more trades. I mean,

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Speaker 2: you could sign guys that get released, but there's no

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Speaker 2: more trades. So you got to be really comfortable with

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Speaker 2: your depth after tuesdays. So it's going to be very

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Speaker 2: interest to see if this ends up being a significant

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Speaker 2: injury to Ronaldo, what the how they respond to that,

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Speaker 2: you know, what the what the counter removed to that is.

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Speaker 2: So but yeah, we'll find out tomorrow just exactly what's

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Speaker 2: going on with with Ronaldo.

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Speaker 1: Of course Stephen, we've all ready and I agree completely.

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Speaker 1: You know, I don't necessarily know if there is one positive.

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Speaker 1: It didn't really seem as if rinaldo you know, experienced

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Speaker 1: you know, it was it was just it he seemed uncomfortable.

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Speaker 1: like we saw that happen with Spencer Strutter. I'm not

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Speaker 1: saying that since those things didn't happen, there's not a

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Speaker 1: realistic chance that it could be a significant injury. But

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Speaker 1: maybe there's some positives in this, you know, could be

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Speaker 1: a minor thing. But you know, we're also you know,

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Speaker 1: but we're also starting to see that, you know, again

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Speaker 1: the starting rotation is starting to really feel these injuries.

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Speaker 1: Because of course, on Monday, you know, the Braids are

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Speaker 1: on Tuesday, and then Chris Sale on Wednesday. But Stephen,

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Speaker 1: I also want to bring this up that today was

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Speaker 1: a pretty significant day because you're starting to see some

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Speaker 1: familiar names also return in terms of their minor league performances.

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Speaker 1: Hirscht and Waldrup was on the mountain today in the

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Speaker 1: Braves munder league system. Moscar, you know it was on

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Speaker 1: what is your confidence. I know that we've talked about

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Speaker 1: what is your confidence in now that we've got some

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Speaker 1: of these players returning, the depth of the Braves pitching

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Speaker 1: the regular season in terms of that versus then going

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Speaker 1: out to make a trade for a starting pitcher.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean if they keep it all, like you know,

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Speaker 2: Ian Anderson and Oscar and Noah, like, if they keep

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Speaker 2: it all, then yeah, that's really good depth. I mean,

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Speaker 2: that's a pretty good amount of depth for your rotation. Now,

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Speaker 2: you know, in two days, a few of those names

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Speaker 2: Braves make. So you know, it's gonna be interesting to see.

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Speaker 2: It'll be better to reassess that on Wednesday once we

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Speaker 2: actually know which guys are going to be around, or

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Speaker 2: like you said, if they acquire you know, a major

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Speaker 2: None of that would surprise me. But yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 2: me if I'm wrong. I think they're all in Triple

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Speaker 2: A now, so you know they're they're twenty minutes away

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Speaker 2: from you know, true As Park if the Braves need

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Speaker 2: him so, and the Braves have got some young guys.

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Speaker 2: There's a guy named Drew Hackenberg in Mississippi, who's was

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Speaker 2: that's exactly how you would have described Spencer swellenback about

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, And the other notable development on Sunday in the

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Speaker 1: outfielder next, year but certainly will be interesting to see

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00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:20,520
Speaker 1: How kelnick is handled over you, know the after. Today

429
00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:22,320
Speaker 1: but it seems like that he's going to be more

430
00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:25,199
Speaker 1: in applatoon at the ball going forward than anything. Else of,

431
00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:26,240
Speaker 1: course time will, tail.

432
00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,200
Speaker 2: YEAH i, mean, yeah we got to see what they

433
00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:36,320
Speaker 2: do between now And, Tuesday BUT i do think we

434
00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:40,879
Speaker 2: might start seeing, this you, know of, course depending on

435
00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:42,840
Speaker 2: what happens at the trade, deadline but we might start

436
00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:46,480
Speaker 2: Seeing kelnic sit against lefties, again where he goes back

437
00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:49,919
Speaker 2: to being a platoon. PLAYER i don't, know, though you,

438
00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:53,040
Speaker 2: know they gave up a lot of money to get

439
00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,280
Speaker 2: him and they didn't give up a lot of long term.

440
00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,199
Speaker 2: Money they. Gave most of the money they paid is

441
00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,840
Speaker 2: it's only on the books for this year and comes

442
00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:02,720
Speaker 2: up the books for next, year which is some of

443
00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,520
Speaker 2: the financial flexibility that The braves have in the off

444
00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:07,800
Speaker 2: season is a lot of money that they paid for

445
00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:11,119
Speaker 2: all the guys that they ended up trading and trading

446
00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:14,000
Speaker 2: away to get Keller nick ultimately come off the books

447
00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:17,480
Speaker 2: uh at the end of the. Year but because they

448
00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:19,400
Speaker 2: they did pay a lot of money to get, him

449
00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:24,600
Speaker 2: they're not you, know the only the only they're they're

450
00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:26,440
Speaker 2: not going to give up on. It, like the only

451
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,480
Speaker 2: scenario where he's not going to be a part of

452
00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,280
Speaker 2: the team next year is IF i, think you, know

453
00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:34,640
Speaker 2: somebody was really really interested in him in the next

454
00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:38,280
Speaker 2: two days And alex included him in a, deal which you,

455
00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:41,359
Speaker 2: KNOW i haven't heard anything even remotely suggesting that's going to.

456
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,520
Speaker 2: Happen but it's not out of the realm of possibility

457
00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,120
Speaker 2: that some team really likes Kel. Nick The braves see

458
00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,400
Speaker 2: an opportunity to maybe clear a log gym the next,

459
00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,240
Speaker 2: year use some of his value and and tries to

460
00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,919
Speaker 2: help the team in another, way but other than THAT

461
00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:55,720
Speaker 2: i think he's going to be part of the team next.

462
00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,159
Speaker 2: YEAR i JUST i don't necessarily know if it's going to. Be,

463
00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,080
Speaker 2: hey we're guaranteeing you the full time left field job

464
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:05,359
Speaker 2: and you get six hundred and fifty plate. APPEARANCES i

465
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 2: don't think he's fully earned that. Yet there certainly was

466
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:11,119
Speaker 2: a point in the season where it looked like he

467
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,960
Speaker 2: had but you, know the season is all it's a long,

468
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:18,199
Speaker 2: season it's a it's, uh you, know things change very,

469
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:22,000
Speaker 2: quickly and he's been on a, brutal brutal stretch where

470
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:26,200
Speaker 2: HE'S i, mean his numbers are just completely. Tanked and

471
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,000
Speaker 2: and so it does call into question how much do

472
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 2: you want to just guarantee him for next. Year he

473
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:32,960
Speaker 2: makes some very little money in terms of his. Salary

474
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,440
Speaker 2: he doesn't have a long term extension that you're tied.

475
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:40,199
Speaker 2: To he does have minor league, options so like The

476
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,720
Speaker 2: braves aren't tied to anything with. Him they did spend

477
00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:45,359
Speaker 2: a lot of money to get. Him but AND i

478
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,080
Speaker 2: don't think they're given up on him by any. Stretch

479
00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,280
Speaker 2: BUT i do wonder if The braves saw an opportunity

480
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:53,320
Speaker 2: to get an outfielder with years of control after this.

481
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:57,359
Speaker 2: Season if they're okay with what you, said where he's

482
00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,679
Speaker 2: just more of a fourth outfielder next, year and you,

483
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:02,879
Speaker 2: know and and then you just kind of see what

484
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:06,920
Speaker 2: happens from. THERE a lot of that will be answered

485
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 2: in the next two. Days we'll see what they. Do

486
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 2: it's possible they just go get a rental outfielder for

487
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:12,359
Speaker 2: the rest of this year and none of WHAT i

488
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:16,200
Speaker 2: just said. Matters BUT i don't think he's so good

489
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 2: and so locked into a full time job next year

490
00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 2: that that that should stop you from going to get

491
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:27,240
Speaker 2: a controllable outfielder if one you, know becomes. Available it's

492
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 2: just Not he's not that level of player yet where

493
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,840
Speaker 2: he should be stopping you from making other. Moves so

494
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:33,240
Speaker 2: that's another. One it's going to be to see what

495
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:37,119
Speaker 2: they do with, him and obviously the. Outfielder if they

496
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,919
Speaker 2: get an, outfielder AND i think they, will you, know

497
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:41,719
Speaker 2: how much team control does he? Have what does that

498
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,560
Speaker 2: mean for count it going? Forward all that's going to

499
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:45,880
Speaker 2: be interesting to see.

500
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 1: Because the other contributing factor as we shift into the

501
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:53,440
Speaker 1: trade deadline discussion is that we've seen some notable outfield

502
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,960
Speaker 1: names already. Move you, Know Jazz chisholm to The, Yankees

503
00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:59,159
Speaker 1: Jesse winker to The, Mets randy Or Rose arena to The.

504
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 1: Mariners and the thing that stands out about those guys

505
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 1: is that those were kind of your you could probably

506
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:08,360
Speaker 1: get even a fairly reasonable cost type players that could

507
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:10,359
Speaker 1: elevate The brais line, up especially where they need it

508
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 1: against right handed, pitching or at least have the potential

509
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 1: to do. That but what stands out to me now

510
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,399
Speaker 1: is that with those names being off the, Market, stephen

511
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 1: is that many of the other guys you could see

512
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,399
Speaker 1: being you, know at a pretty reasonable, cost you, know

513
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 1: that could be you, know acquired at you, know maybe

514
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:29,359
Speaker 1: a similar or a slightly you, know heavier cost than

515
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,160
Speaker 1: the guys that The braves got in twenty twenty. ONE

516
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 1: a lot of those type of guys that are available,

517
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 1: now they're really good against left handed. Pitching The braves

518
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 1: don't really need help against left handed. Pitching today showed

519
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,959
Speaker 1: that they need help against right handed. Pitching and the

520
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 1: players that potentially could be moved that could help This

521
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 1: braise line up against right handed, pitching those are the

522
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 1: significant under control for the future type. Guys Taylor, Ward

523
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 1: Laris robert And i'm gonna let you get into someone

524
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:58,359
Speaker 1: that you really enjoy that could potentially be an option

525
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,520
Speaker 1: for The braves as. Well but to, me what kind

526
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:02,720
Speaker 1: of how this trade market is setting up the fact

527
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 1: that we just talked about Kell. Nick maybe he's you,

528
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 1: know you, know could be the fourth outfielder next. Year

529
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 1: it could be setting up to Where alex has some

530
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 1: motivation to go get a pretty significant talent that could

531
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 1: factor into The braves planes this year but also next,

532
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 1: year and that can help out with right handed. Pitching

533
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 1: perhaps that option is more in play now than some

534
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 1: of us may.

535
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 2: Anticipate, YEAH i, mean there was definitely some noise today

536
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 2: that The braves were talking with The White. Sox none

537
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:35,159
Speaker 2: of it was, confirmed of, course it's all, whispers but you,

538
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 2: Know hayman had a report that The braves And White

539
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 2: sox have been talking a, lot and that you, know

540
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 2: all the names are kind of on the, table you.

541
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 2: Know i've sat on the show a couple of times

542
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 2: THAT i think there's an argument for going to get

543
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,640
Speaker 2: a guy Like Luis robert who hits both left he's

544
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:53,439
Speaker 2: and right right. Handers he's a good defensive. Outfielder he

545
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 2: does have some injury, history and that's that doesn't. Matter

546
00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:00,639
Speaker 2: but you, KNOW i think there's real. THERE i MEAN

547
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:04,680
Speaker 2: I i we'll see what. Happens you, know most trades don't.

548
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,440
Speaker 2: Happen of, course the vast majority of trades don't. Happen

549
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 2: so it's NOT i guarantee, anything but there is enough

550
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 2: smoke out there THAT i do think it's. Real but,

551
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 2: yeah the, guy the guy That i've liked for a

552
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 2: while Is Brandon lao Of, tampa who plays second base for.

553
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 2: Them he's a left handed, hitter but he's also played

554
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 2: quite a bit of outfield in his, career and you,

555
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:28,439
Speaker 2: know if you look at his, page he's kind of

556
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:33,160
Speaker 2: designated as a second baseman slash. Outfielder he's a left handed.

557
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,160
Speaker 2: Hitter he really really hits right handed pitching very. Well

558
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 2: he has his whole, career and you, know The rays

559
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 2: look like they're going through a period of transition where

560
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 2: they're moving a lot of their more veteran. Guys lao,

561
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 2: is he's, thirty he's got two more years of team.

562
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 2: Controller he's got two team options after this, year both

563
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 2: for a ridiculously cheap amount of. Money it's like ten

564
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 2: and eleven million. Dollars But WHAT i like about him

565
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 2: is that he hits right. Handed he can play second.

566
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 2: Base you, Know nacho can go back, down Or nacho

567
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:08,119
Speaker 2: might even be in the, trade but you, know he

568
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 2: could play second, base and then If ozi came, back

569
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,200
Speaker 2: he could he could kind of shift to the outfield

570
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 2: and play, there especially right field In, truest which is pretty,

571
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 2: small it's pretty easy to. Play he doesn't have the

572
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 2: most you, know he's he's thirty and been a second

573
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:23,879
Speaker 2: baseman for a couple of. Years he's not like the

574
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 2: the rangiest guy you've ever seen or the strongest. Arm

575
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 2: but for a guy that can hit right, handed pitching

576
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 2: as well as he, COULD i think he's maybe my

577
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 2: favorite guy on the on the. Market. Uh you, know

578
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 2: those options are so cheap for the next two years

579
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 2: That tampa might not trade. Him but it does seem

580
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 2: Like tampa's going through kind of a full transition where

581
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 2: they've moved some. Guys you, know they, moved they moved To,

582
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 2: rosarina they Moved, pees they move Zach. Eflin so you,

583
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 2: KNOW i wouldn't be surprised at all if he's moved

584
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 2: in the next two, days AND i wouldn't be surprised

585
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 2: at all if The braves are at least involved in those.

586
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 2: Discussions now we'll see what happens and who they like

587
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 2: and who The braves are willing to give. Up but

588
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 2: in terms of, fit somebody who could play second base

589
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 2: and the, outfield a left handed hitter who can hit

590
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 2: right handed, pitching which is The braves' biggest. Weakness it

591
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 2: just makes sense to. Me but you, know it takes

592
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 2: more than that to get a deal. Done so we'll

593
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 2: see what. Happened but, Yeah Louis, Robert Brandon, lyle those

594
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 2: two GUYS i think are my favorite targets at the,

595
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 2: moment just because they both can hit right handed. PITCHING

596
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 2: i Think Louis, robert even as a right handed, hitter

597
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 2: has got like a one FIFTEEN wrc plus or something like.

598
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 2: That it gets right handed pitching for his. Career he

599
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 2: has left these better than, righties but he still his

600
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 2: Right he's pretty dang. Good so it'll be to see

601
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 2: what they. DO i do think they need help on

602
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 2: that side of the. Ball and so, yeah that's gonna

603
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 2: it's gonna be fascinating to see what ale which Direction

604
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 2: alex goes.

605
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 1: In. Absolutely and the other thing IS i know that

606
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 1: what other teams do doesn't really impact What alex. Does

607
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 1: it never has AND i don't think that it ever.

608
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 1: Should but what's notable, is, again this will probably change

609
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 1: as the trade deadline. Goes but you know the names

610
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 1: that have been, traded these significant names that you know

611
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 1: have been. Traded, yes The mets Got Jesse, winker and

612
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 1: we've seen you, know a few you, know The phillies

613
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 1: have made a few moves as. Well The phillies are

614
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 1: clearly the best team in The National. League but what

615
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 1: steps out to me is, that you, know The, brewers The,

616
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 1: dodgers The, cardinals you, know they have not really made

617
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 1: that major of a. Move so to, me, yes The phillies,

618
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 1: are you, know The phillies And dodgers are the two

619
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 1: best teams right now in The National, league especially with

620
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 1: the injuries that The braves have. Had but if The

621
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 1: braves were to kind of look at the landscape and, see,

622
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 1: okay you, know other teams may not be necessarily moving

623
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 1: like we, thought you, know like several thought they. Would you,

624
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 1: know if The braves can go get that significant added

625
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 1: bat and you get alsoon going, again you get you,

626
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 1: Know ozsie, back you Get freed, back things such as.

627
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 1: That the thing That i'll say is is that this,

628
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 1: season while it's been absolutely frustrating to go, THROUGH i

629
00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 1: there's still a chance that this season could could really turn,

630
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 1: out you, know to have a much better outlook going

631
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 1: into the playoffs than somebody anticipate right. Now so you, know,

632
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 1: again what happens with other. TEAMS i don't think Motivates Alex.

633
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 1: Steven BUT i do think that if he found the

634
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 1: right deal for that right type of, it that you

635
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 1: could see The braves being in a pretty decent position

636
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 1: going into the. Playoffs and then, hey at that, point

637
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 1: you never know what's gonna. Happen BUT i will say

638
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 1: that The braves offense gets clicking more like we're used,

639
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 1: to you could see plenty, happen you know for The,

640
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 1: braves that they can get everybody back, healthy plus make

641
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 1: a notable move or two at the.

642
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 2: Deadline, yeah you, know they're supposed to Get michael, Back

643
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 2: Michael harris back middle Of, August they're supposed to Get

644
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 2: ossie back kind of the middle end Of. SEPTEMBER i

645
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 2: would still not hold out hope for. THAT i still

646
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 2: think there's a decent chance At ozzie is not gonna

647
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 2: come back this, year just because rist injuries are so

648
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 2: fickle and guys usually take a little bit. Longer but,

649
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 2: yeah if you Get michael, back who helps is a

650
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 2: left headed hitter who does help against right handed, pitching

651
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 2: and you can go get somebody that can help you

652
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 2: in that. Regard you Get Matt olson, going like we've

653
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 2: Seen Matt olson get, Going like that's the biggest. Piece,

654
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 2: honestly If Matt olson can can find his form, again

655
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 2: and then you can Keep selling And Max freed. Healthy you,

656
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 2: know they're still saying That max is going to be,

657
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 2: back you, know pretty, soon maybe as soon As. Friday

658
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 2: they're still calling everything very. Minor they said all the

659
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 2: structural stuff around his elbow is. Good so you, know

660
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 2: if they get him, back if they can keep him

661
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 2: And sale healthy and then Get Matt olsen going and

662
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 2: get a little bit more pop in their, lineup get

663
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 2: a little bit more depth with some of these, injuries

664
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 2: Get Michael harris, back like, YEAH i, Mean Max freed

665
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 2: And Chris sale can carry you through a postseason by.

666
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:52,239
Speaker 2: Themselves and if you Get olsen And ozuna And riley all,

667
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 2: going you get you add another bat via the deadline

668
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 2: Like bradyce have a, really really good, bullpen one of

669
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 2: the best bullpens in. BASEBALL i, mean they could win

670
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 2: A World. SERIES i know it's crazy to say for

671
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 2: a team that just lost six in a row and

672
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 2: has been spiraling a, bit but like right, now this

673
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 2: team has enough talent to win A World. SERIES i

674
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 2: would argue this team is a much better and much

675
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 2: more talented position than the twenty twenty one team was

676
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 2: before the trade. Deadline so of, COURSE i, mean this

677
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 2: team can have a magical. Run but you, know they

678
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 2: got the, injuries have got to, Quit like we can't

679
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 2: take any more. Injuries i'm not expecting good news With.

680
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 2: RONALDO i would love to be. Wrong i'm not expecting good,

681
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 2: news but, yeah they got the, injuries got to, quit

682
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 2: and they got to get medals In Austin rally And

683
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 2: Marcello zuna all going at the same time hitting like,

684
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 2: superstars and maybe add a couple of, pieces you, know

685
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 2: in the, lineup and yeah they could they could Do

686
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 2: they could still accomplish everything that we wanted to accomplish

687
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 2: before the season. Started they still have enough talent to do.

688
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 1: That So steve AND i know that we may be

689
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 1: on a podcast together At chips and maybe on podcast

690
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 1: together before the trade deadline, occurs will, certainly you, know

691
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 1: have reaction after. It but as we wrap up this

692
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 1: edition of The Hammer territory, Podcast i'm gonna put you

693
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 1: on the spot a couple of predictions for the trade

694
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 1: deadline when it comes to The, braves even if it's not,

695
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 1: names just some. Thoughts but what do you have a

696
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 1: prediction or too when it comes to the trade deadline

697
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 1: two days from.

698
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,879
Speaker 2: NOW i think there's a very good chance they trade

699
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:25,839
Speaker 2: For Lewis. Robert you know, me you And scott did

700
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 2: a show a few weeks ago AND i kind, OF

701
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,359
Speaker 2: i kind of talked myself into The braves trading For Louis.

702
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 2: ROBERT i think it does make a lot of. SENSE

703
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 2: i think it's very. Real you, know it takes a

704
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 2: lot to make those trades, happen you, Know Robert, scott

705
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:41,840
Speaker 2: multiple years of team. Control it's going to take some

706
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,840
Speaker 2: of the braves best. Prospects but it does make a

707
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,400
Speaker 2: lot of. Sense SO i that that one would not

708
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 2: surprise me at. All you, KNOW i Think scott talked

709
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 2: About Taylor ward when we did that, show AND i

710
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 2: think that's a very much An alex and tooppoless type of.

711
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 2: Move you, know he's the guy that's expected numbers are

712
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 2: actually better than his actual. Numbers And alex loves those

713
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 2: type of guys because they're typically really good value in

714
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 2: terms of how much they. Cost Hayzus sanchez From marlin

715
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,319
Speaker 2: is the same type of. Guy he's a lefty who's

716
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 2: right as. Well his expected numbers are way higher than

717
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 2: his actual, numbers and every time he goes To Truest

718
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 2: park he gets a, ball you, know seven miles over

719
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 2: the chop. House so that's another guy THAT i would

720
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 2: not be super right it's at. All The marlins are trading,

721
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 2: everybody so that would not surprise me at. All it's

722
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 2: gonna be something like. That it's either going to be

723
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 2: a big. Move it's either going to be Like Luis

724
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 2: robert or it's gonna Be, hey here's a list of

725
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,800
Speaker 2: guys who's expected numbers are better than their actual. Numbers

726
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 2: they play the outfield and they can hit right handed,

727
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 2: pitching and you Know Taylor, Ward Hayesus, sanchez guys like.

728
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 2: That you, know in worst case, SCENARIO i think they'll

729
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,800
Speaker 2: go get like A Lane adams if everything else falls

730
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,959
Speaker 2: through and they just want to get another. Body Lane

731
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 2: adams is a bit redundant because he's a lefty master

732
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 2: who strugg was against right handed pitching and and The

733
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 2: braves already kind of have that prototype in their. Lineup

734
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 2: but you, know if everything else falls, Through i'm Guessing

735
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 2: alex goes and gets something like that just as another

736
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 2: body to add to the. Lineup SO i know that's

737
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 2: like seven different guesses in your, answer BUT i would

738
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 2: probably just rank him in, tiers LIKE i think tier.

739
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:25,320
Speaker 2: One if you Gave, alex you, know everything he, wanted

740
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 2: he would go get a guy Like Lewis. Robert if

741
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 2: that doesn't, WORK i think he moves to the you,

742
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 2: know expected number are better than actual number of Guys

743
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 2: Jesus Sanchez Hill, award and if those fall, through you

744
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,240
Speaker 2: go to you, know you go to Your Lane adams

745
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 2: of the world and and see if if you can get.

746
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 2: Him but but, yeah that's that's HOW i see it.

747
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 2: Going and you, know we'll, see we'll all find out.

748
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 1: Together SO i made the mistake before of, tribute of

749
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,839
Speaker 1: owing tribute to Former braves Like, Adams BUT i believe

750
00:36:57,880 --> 00:36:59,760
Speaker 1: you THINK i Mean Lane thomas of The nationals.

751
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 2: RIGHT i Told brad THAT i was going to do,

752
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:04,879
Speaker 2: This Lane thomas.

753
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 1: Lan, Adams, YES i made the mistake before.

754
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:13,800
Speaker 2: To Lane Thomas Lane adams formally of The, BRAVES i

755
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 2: KNEW i. WAS i KNEW i was gonna do.

756
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 1: THAT i think that it's probably going to be a

757
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 1: trickle down. Effect and WHAT i mean by that is

758
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 1: this is THAT i do think that The braves are

759
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 1: going to try to go out and get an impact,

760
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 1: bat one that's. CONTROLLABLE i think they definitely are going

761
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 1: to do that because the other thing about getting an

762
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 1: impact bat is that you don't Have Marcella zuna but

763
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 1: for another. Year you don't know what you're going to

764
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 1: get From Ronald Acuna junior next, year coming off his

765
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:46,360
Speaker 1: SECOND aco. Injury Ozy albi's is not being you, know

766
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 1: he had a great year in twenty twenty, three but

767
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 1: he's also been injury prone as of. Late so there's

768
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 1: plenty of, reasons even if they're not always. Mentioned there's

769
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 1: plenty of reasons to go out and get a, impact controllable.

770
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 1: Bat SO i do think That alexandopolis is looking like A

771
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,840
Speaker 1: Luis robert or A brandon law you, know if not

772
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 1: that maybe go get A Taylor. WARD i also, think

773
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 1: especially if you See Ronaldo lopez, potentially you, know if

774
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 1: there is a significant injury there that maybe put his

775
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five in. JEOPARDY i wonder If alexandoppless goes

776
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 1: and dips into either The a's or The rockies bucket

777
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 1: again and go get some you, know potential controllable Pitcher

778
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:25,839
Speaker 1: Cal quantrill Or Austin, gomber who are both controlled through

779
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 1: twenty twenty. Five could Have Paul, blackburn you, know be

780
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 1: someone that you, Know alex could you, know talk about you,

781
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 1: know no one that you know you really would expect

782
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 1: maybe to be in the in the playoffs, rotation but

783
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 1: you at least could see them be in productive regular

784
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 1: season contributors both this year next. Year so that's the

785
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:41,799
Speaker 1: type of thing THAT i can, see you know WHAT

786
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,840
Speaker 1: i would look if we Got Taylor ward as well

787
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,320
Speaker 1: as one of those, pitchers it would be a successful.

788
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,359
Speaker 1: Deadline you, Know i'm not NECESSARILY i believe his name

789
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 1: Is Luis rengifo as. Well i'm not necessarily sure if

790
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 1: his profile really matches what The braves look, at but

791
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 1: he could be another option that could play multiple. Positions

792
00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:00,040
Speaker 1: that's controllable like A Brandon. Lyles SO i THINK i

793
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 1: think that he's actually especially If lopez is a significant,

794
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 1: INJURY i think you could see notable moves made for

795
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 1: a bat and an. Arm but at the very end

796
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 1: of the, DAY i do think that there's gonna be

797
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 1: multiple moves made and it's gonna be exciting to see

798
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 1: to what level they're. Made But, stephen do you have

799
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 1: anything for US a guinness we wrape up this edition

800
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 1: of The Hammer territory.

801
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 2: Podcast no apologies to The Layne thomas family for calling

802
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 2: Him Leane adams multiple. Times BUT i do think there's

803
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 2: also a possibility That braves maybe go get you, know

804
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 2: last year they just went and got, randomly they just

805
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 2: went and Got Nicky lopez to help shore up the

806
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 2: middle infield. Defense and that would not surprise me at

807
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 2: all if they got you, know kind of a light

808
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 2: hitting but really good defender up the. Middle you, KNOW

809
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 2: i know they win get With, merrifield but he's more

810
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 2: of a he's more of a base, steeler pincher runner.

811
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 2: Type he's he's pretty weak in the. Field you, Know

812
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 2: ozzie's of course going to be down for a. While you,

813
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 2: KNOW i don't know how much Longer natcho it's going

814
00:39:57,800 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 2: to be, up or even if he's gonna be in

815
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:02,240
Speaker 2: the organization in a couple of. Days so that wouldn't

816
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 2: surprise me at all if they went and did another

817
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 2: kind Of Nicky lopez type. Acquisition but, yeah it's gonna be.

818
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 2: Fascinating you, KNOW i love this time of. Year you,

819
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 2: KNOW i have all the all of my notifications, on

820
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 2: so you, know if If rosenthal or anybody drops a,

821
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:20,879
Speaker 2: trade then it pops right up on the. Phone and

822
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 2: so it's always. Fun it's always entertaining to see what

823
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:25,879
Speaker 2: the team's gonna. DO i do think there'll be. MOVES

824
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 2: i don't think they're just gonna stand. PAT i do

825
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 2: Think alex is gonna. ADD i think he noticed his

826
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 2: team needs more. Talent so it's it gonna be about

827
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 2: what they, do and you, know we'll find. Out we'll

828
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 2: find out. Together the next forty eight hours are little

829
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 2: less than forty eight, Hours so.

830
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 1: Yeah hashtag hug watch all the notifications you can think,

831
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 1: of and just a will be a lot of fun

832
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 1: over the next few. Days and one of the things

833
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,840
Speaker 1: That i'll mention is this is that The Matt olsen

834
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 1: trade occurred on A, monday so it seemed like over

835
00:40:56,520 --> 00:41:00,800
Speaker 1: the past few, years big extension extensions occurred On. Mondays

836
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,439
Speaker 1: in the, past it seems like That mondays have been

837
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 1: the day when if alex And topless is going to

838
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 1: make a, move a notable, move it's on A. Monday so,

839
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 1: hey tomorrow that trend could continue and you, know twenty

840
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 1: four hours from, now we could be, having you, know

841
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 1: some very fun discussions when it comes to A Hammer

842
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 1: territory emergency, podcast or maybe we'll even do one later.

843
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 1: Tonight but until. Then his name Is Stephen, tolbert Be

844
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 1: Underscore outliers On. Twitter my name Is Sean. Coleman you

845
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 1: can find me at Stats. Sac until next, time Go,

846
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,760
Speaker 1: Braves we'll talk to you again on The Hammer Territory

847
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 1: podcast