1 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: Welcome back to More to It to show that takes 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 1: a deep dive into the biggest stories in sports, entertainment 3 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:08,799 Speaker 1: and culture. 4 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:10,960 Speaker 2: Start with headline news and then journey. 5 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: To deeper conversations, always finding those life lessons that are 6 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:17,760 Speaker 1: presented in every single story. I'm your host, Marcel Swally. 7 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:22,240 Speaker 1: That dude over here feeling good because I had a 8 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 1: good day. 9 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:25,080 Speaker 2: Man, so far, so great. 10 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: Got to talk to you guys, and let's get right 11 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: into it with what's up with that dude? 12 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 2: Well, what's up with that dude is? Man? 13 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: Yesterday I had a meeting with my bank, and I 14 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 1: told you guys, in a long time ago, you got 15 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: to start talking to your bank because they got your money. 16 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: And everybody got this apprehension and this anxiety of going 17 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: into the bank and doing more than just depositing and withdrawing. 18 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 2: Right. 19 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: I've been in that place before, but over the years, 20 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 1: obviously having a CPA financial advisor, whoever you are, I 21 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: don't care if you don't have that financial team. You 22 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: got five dollars and if you got five dollars in 23 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: the bank, you need to have a better relationship with 24 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: that bank. So yesterday they took me to lunch why 25 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: because I asked them to take me to lunch. Demn, 26 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 1: It's time to talk. What's going on? How do banks 27 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: even make money? Like for real, like. 28 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 2: In simple layman's terms and in complex terms. 29 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:18,559 Speaker 1: I want to know how y'all sitting here building branch 30 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 1: at the branch just because somebody came in here with 31 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 1: an eighty seven dollars check. 32 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 2: I want to know how it's going down. 33 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: Well, in short, over the lunch, you know that they 34 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 1: paid for with my money. 35 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 2: Long story short, man. 36 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:34,040 Speaker 1: You know, banks they just take your deposits and then 37 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: they invest them in securities, right, and they also loan 38 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: that money out and they just play a game on 39 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: the margin, simple as that. And I'm a kid that 40 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: hated Monopoly growing up. I hated all the financial games 41 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: growing up. 42 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 2: I was a. 43 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 1: Connect for I was a sorry dude, you know, oho 44 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: forever for life. So I was just like, man, I 45 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: ain't trippled on on them games. But one thing I 46 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: will say that's a valuable lesson even from those games, 47 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: is just learn how a little can be a lot. 48 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: And that's what banks basically do and aggregate and collective. 49 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: They take a little from you, a little from you, 50 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: a little few and make it a lot. Loan that out, 51 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: especially to entities and to commerci show investors, etc. And 52 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 1: next thing you know, they got branches everywhere. You're part 53 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 1: owner of that. You don't even feel that way. 54 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 2: So next time you go to your bank, dammit, even 55 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 2: if it's the check cash you place, you're going down 56 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 2: to Knicks. I don't care ask them to take you 57 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 2: to lunch. 58 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: Shoot, they paying for it with your money. All Right 59 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 1: after that, I was in the hot tub chiller with 60 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 1: my son. This is why I love this show because 61 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:37,519 Speaker 1: if I try to pull this on my other networks, 62 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 1: I would have heard a producer my ear say, come 63 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: come on by ourselves. We in a hot tub, dog, 64 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie. We playing with a beach ball. 65 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 1: And this is what I love about Fatherhood, not only 66 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 1: this show, but just connecting with y'all. We made up 67 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: a game. Guess what the game is called. We ain't 68 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: make up a name for it. We just start playing it. 69 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: You know what the game was the four borders of 70 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 1: the hot tub. You gott to touch the ball, but 71 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: not let it hit the ball or you lose a point, 72 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 1: or let it go out. Obviously you lose a point 73 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 1: and don't let it hit the water. You lose a point. 74 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's gonna take off like pickleball, but. 75 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 2: Damn it, it was fun to say we was in 76 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 2: that thing. We was in there learning. He was learning 77 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:16,519 Speaker 2: hand eye coordination, he was learning touch. It was so fun, man. 78 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:18,639 Speaker 1: So I just had to let y'all know that sometimes 79 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 1: it takes nothing to do something. 80 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 2: Man, connect with you, Eddie Biddy's. 81 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: And the last thing is, I had a meeting last 82 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 1: night with somebody, a former NFL player that played longer 83 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 1: than me, that I am hopeful will be the sports 84 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: ambassador for my foundation Project Transition. And he's excited. I'm excited. 85 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 1: We just gonna make this happen. And the five pillars 86 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: of our organization family, education, economic empowerment, sports, him, and 87 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: finally experiences. So I'm looking forward to just bringing all 88 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: this to you guys to make sure that we connect 89 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: with those, especially people at the fork in the road 90 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: in their life, those who are underserved and underprivileged. Your 91 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: boy is here for you now speaking of somebody who 92 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: was let's just. 93 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 2: Say, not serving up properly. Ben Simmons, you seem underserved 94 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 2: or you certainly underserved Philadelphia when you were there, and 95 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 2: now he's trolling the Sixers. Y'all kiss this. 96 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: It was on all the media sites yesterday. Had to 97 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: come give it some love. Ben Simmons posted a picture 98 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 1: of him drinking some murlou I don't know, some wine, 99 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:32,599 Speaker 1: some veno while watching the Sixers get blown out in 100 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 1: that game seven fourth quarter loss to the Celtics. So 101 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 1: we saw it trending everywhere. Big names out there ripping them. 102 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 1: We saw it, and it's funny because of the backstory 103 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: of the Sixers and Ben Simmons relationship. 104 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 2: Y'all. 105 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 1: Remember when I dude was in practice and he had 106 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: a cell phone in his pocket. I was like, I know, 107 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: I played football, so you ain't pulling that unless you 108 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 1: want a broken phone and you're gonna be up there 109 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: at the Genius Bar tome on. 110 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 2: Nah. 111 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: I don't know what happened to it. You know, they 112 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:01,280 Speaker 1: could be like dog yo, ask was that practice stopped playing? 113 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 1: But Ben Simmons was at practice in basketball with a 114 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:08,359 Speaker 1: phone in his damn pocket. You know, his mind in 115 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 1: the parking lot he done checked out. But all of 116 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 1: that stuff that went down between him, I ain't think 117 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 1: he would have the Koonas to actually go out there 118 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: and just say, look, i'matroll them foods because of how 119 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:21,919 Speaker 1: they treated me. 120 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 2: Good for him in that respect. So it's also odd. 121 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 1: That him trolling them with his fall from grace that 122 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 1: occurred when he was there, when everybody's looking at Ben 123 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 1: Simmons still like dog, what happened? You're a once in 124 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 1: a generational talent. You're supposed to have been a Magic 125 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 1: Johnson that was even more nimble or could defend better 126 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: or some and whatever, and now we just see you. 127 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 2: Are you even improving your game? We saw you sit out, 128 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 2: you force the. 129 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: Trail, your neck, in your back, and then your mental health. 130 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 1: When that didn't work, they moved him to the nets. 131 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: I mean, you got to do a Google search sometimes 132 00:05:57,760 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 1: when you're like, is he still on the nets? And 133 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 1: now some people are saying he's so irrelevant and may 134 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:06,719 Speaker 1: not even have job security. Right if a team takes 135 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:09,840 Speaker 1: a chance on Ben Simmons, we'll see him again next year, 136 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: y'all serious? 137 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 2: Right now? This is going on. Ben Simmons number one? 138 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,280 Speaker 2: What was he number one high school prospect, number one 139 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 2: overall pick and Ben Simmons in this position right now. 140 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 1: A lot of questions out there, a lot of questions 141 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 1: coming from the members in why these were a lot 142 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: of you guys chime in, you ask me like, why. 143 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 2: Should he be comfortable trolling? 144 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: Like what gives Ben Simmons the audacity, the audaciousness to 145 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:36,479 Speaker 1: go out there and troll the sixers? I'll tell you why, 146 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:39,719 Speaker 1: Because in the athlete's mind, we can do no wrong. 147 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:44,039 Speaker 1: We're always the last one to our retirement party. Y'all know, 148 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 1: we gonna ball till we fall. 149 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 2: And when y'all throwing us a retirement party, you're like, 150 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 2: y'all all right, enough of him. He's still like where 151 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:52,159 Speaker 2: y'all going, What y'all doing? 152 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: I don't need no cake. I'm still got gaining me. 153 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: So that's part of it too. He lacks himself awareness 154 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 1: as most athletes. But why didn't he get better? Is 155 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: the real question I saw the most. Let me tell 156 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 1: you this, you can't confuse movement with progress as we've 157 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: heard before, and doing a lot but not getting a 158 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: lot done. When you practice, it has to be intentional. 159 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: It has to be applied training to a specific event 160 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: or skill. Seems like to me, Ben Simmons was going 161 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: in the gym, punching the clock, but not really checking 162 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: the box of getting better. It happens, y'all. You can 163 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 1: go in there all day, spin your wheels and not 164 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: really advance the ball. Four feeling this thing right here 165 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: because that NFL scaled. Remember I told you I'm gonna 166 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 1: get this away. Yeah, damn right, I'm. 167 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 2: Gonna get this away, just like they gave away my 168 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 2: services after three years. They were like, yeah, we're gonna 169 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:49,119 Speaker 2: give you away to Dallas after this. Demnit. 170 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: Oh, but that is the Chargers, you know what it is? 171 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: That throw back, the best uniform in all the sports. 172 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: That was a two sack game year for your boys. 173 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna hook y'all up members in Wiley's world, 174 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: love you guys much love, will get that away maybe 175 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: Friday or Monday out. No, let's talk through it now. 176 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: Let's talk to this situation. 177 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 2: There's a soccer player who got fined for skipping lgbtq. 178 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: I A plus in their support match. Right now, First 179 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: of all, let's just have some fun with the trivia. 180 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: What does all those letters mean? 181 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 2: Like? Who knows the acronym for real? 182 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: Go all right, So I'm gonna look it up because 183 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 1: I can't lie After about t I'm lost. 184 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 2: Sorry, here we go. 185 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: Lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer, inner in the dictionary sense 186 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 1: or questioning, y'all stupid webster trip intersex, intersex, interseex Okay, 187 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 1: I don't know. 188 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 2: I don't know how to define ot. Y'all gonna help 189 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:53,719 Speaker 2: me with that? One? A sexual? Got that? Or allies? 190 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 2: A romantic or a gender? I now one. I approach 191 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 2: everything with equal respect in equality. 192 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: Guess what that means? Your ass gonna get clown like 193 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 1: everybody else. If you wrote me to treat you equally, 194 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: guess what the joke's flying at you too. 195 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 2: That's called levity. 196 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: So when our cloud, don't y'all get sensitive, because then 197 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 1: it's gonna tell me, Oh, you don't think that y'all 198 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: equal or I'm equal? Let's go there. That's oh I'm 199 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: a prefaces with Now. After saying that, let's get into 200 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 1: the story because nantest. Now, I'm not from Europe, y'all. 201 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I'm from La. So if 202 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: I mess some of these names up, it's a you problem, 203 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:31,679 Speaker 1: not me. I ain't from there, net Me stop Na 204 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 1: test has fine striker mo Stafa. 205 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 2: You know I was lying King and when I saw this, 206 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 2: Mostafa mohammet better stop chilling for refusing to play against 207 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 2: to lose. You imagine a team name is to lose 208 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 2: what we trying to do today, To lose what were 209 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 2: out here for? To lose? 210 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 1: You're like dogs. Rename the damn team. So they called 211 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 1: to lose, right, and they played on Sunday. When the 212 00:09:55,800 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 1: teams across France, they wore rainbow color numbers on their 213 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:07,319 Speaker 1: jerseys and show support for the lgbt QIA plus community. 214 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: They give themselves room to breathe that plus. But when 215 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: my son growing up, you're gonna be like daddy. I 216 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 1: just said the whole alphabet. I said, who you're talking about? 217 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: All my friends over there that go to that bar Godly. 218 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 2: That's crazy. 219 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 1: Nantes said in a statement on Monday that the egypt 220 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: striker was fined an undisclosed amount which will be donated 221 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: to a French charity called so Os Homophobia. 222 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 2: Now y'all see where this story is going. Quote. 223 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:35,199 Speaker 1: First of all, Nan Tests would like to repeat its 224 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:37,079 Speaker 1: commitment in the fight against homophobia. 225 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 2: The club said. 226 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 1: Mostafa Muhammad, a striker for FC Nantes, refused to play 227 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 1: in the match against to lose for personal reasons. To 228 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:51,719 Speaker 1: this end, the NATEST directors decided to punish him financially. 229 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:54,079 Speaker 2: Hit them where it hurts in the pockets. 230 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: They also said they will continue to fight against all 231 00:10:57,679 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: forms of discrimination. 232 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 2: As an always has done. So not only are they 233 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 2: gonna penalize him. 234 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 1: Financially, but you see the distancing right now in messaging like, Okay, 235 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 1: he does not represent us, right these are his personal beliefs, 236 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: So therefore we're gonna make sure you know to separate 237 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 1: us too. 238 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:21,439 Speaker 2: Got it? Got all that now? 239 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: The teams in the top two divisions wore rainbow colored 240 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: numbers on their jerseys over the weekend for the third 241 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: consecutive season to lose four. Zakaria I would call was 242 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: left out of his team for the same game after 243 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: also refusing to wear the jersey. Albucall gave his reasons 244 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 1: on social media on Sunday. 245 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 2: Now, y'all want to know the reasons. 246 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 1: I know you do, Let's talk to it, he said, 247 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 1: I have made the decision not to take part in 248 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:49,680 Speaker 1: today's game. First and foremost, I wanna emphasize that I 249 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:55,079 Speaker 1: hold the highest regard for every individual, regardless of their 250 00:11:55,120 --> 00:12:00,439 Speaker 1: personal prefaces, gender, religion or background. This is a principle 251 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: that cannot be emphasized enough. Sounds like he's setting himself 252 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: up to say what he really wants to say. Here 253 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: it comes Respect is the value that I hold in 254 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: great esteem. It extends to others, but it also here 255 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 1: we go encompasses respect. 256 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 2: For my own personal beliefs any line. 257 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 1: Hence, I don't believe I am the most suitable person 258 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: to participate in this campaign. I sincerely hope that my 259 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 1: decision will be respected, just as we all desire to 260 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 1: be treated with respect. Zakaria Abukar Wow. He wrote that 261 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 1: first he gave you framework, right, and then he gave 262 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 1: the acknowledgment in general of how we all should have 263 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 1: a healthy respect. It should be a two way street. 264 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 1: It should be transmission both ways. Then he got into 265 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: what he really felt personally about it and said, in 266 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: that process of respecting each other, can you respect what 267 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: I personally believe? 268 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 2: All right? 269 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 1: So some of the questions were who's in the wrong here. 270 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: Some of the questions were is it okay. 271 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 2: For a team to find you or to actually find 272 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 2: you for personal beliefs when it's not really something that 273 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 2: is undermining you? 274 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: Doing the work. Okay, he said he's not gonna play. Okay, now, 275 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 1: we are not gonna pay for that game. But to 276 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 1: find you on top of that because of your personal beliefs, 277 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 1: people didn't catch that layer. That's a little interesting, right, 278 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 1: you know we gonna talk to it was the punishment fair. 279 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: People were asking, all right, I love when we get 280 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 1: into our world of community, because we is really just 281 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 1: a breakdown of you and I. 282 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 2: Correct, we all learned that well with the second grade, 283 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 2: third grade? What as we? You and I? 284 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:39,439 Speaker 1: Okay, but they really got it flipped because in this world, 285 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 1: as much as we promote and say you first, it's 286 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 1: really I first. 287 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 2: Right, selfish, selfless, what's in common? Self? 288 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 1: So in this situation, him and his talents are being 289 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 1: properly displayed when he's playing soccer. 290 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 2: But then they want you to keep separate who you 291 00:13:59,000 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 2: are personally. 292 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 1: Most of us can do that. That's called professionalism. However, 293 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 1: when it comes to something that it deeply affects you, 294 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 1: what do you do in those moments? He did what 295 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: he wanted to do and what he felt necessary in 296 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:15,679 Speaker 1: that moment, and they did as well. But when we 297 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: talk about community, is this right? Here comes the part 298 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 1: that I don't like. I totally agree with him in 299 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: theory in terms of respecting my personal beliefs. But then 300 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 1: when you actually execute that, pragmatically, play that out, it 301 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 1: comes across like this, Oh, I respect everybody, but I 302 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: will not be playing against somebody. 303 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 2: I will not be. 304 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: Playing to represent something because they are blank. Imagine there 305 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: used to be a day my people, black people. Oh 306 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 1: I'm not playing against black people right now, I'm not 307 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 1: playing against a gay person. 308 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 2: He's not saying that. He said, I'm not playing to. 309 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 1: ZiT or to give amplification to a community like that. 310 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 1: Where do you go then, right, think about it. We 311 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: know the evolution of history and of society. You're not 312 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 1: supposed to discriminating. That's why the organization came out like that. 313 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: But what do you say when you have these deep 314 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: personal beliefs, religious beliefs. That says one thing, and you know, 315 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 1: society standards and us being human beings we together says 316 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 1: something different. I thought, this is a real interesting story 317 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 1: because there is no right or wrong in this one. 318 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 1: But you know what's wrong discriminating, But what's right is 319 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: actually upholding your personal beliefs. Well, we're gonna have to 320 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 1: go to a higher power to get the answer on 321 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: this one. Nickering at this one right here? 322 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 2: Whoa man? The hot mic? Hot Mike? 323 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 1: Remind me at the end of this, especially Courtney, our producer, did, 324 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 1: I gotta give y'all my Drake story with a hot 325 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: mic is pretty funny. But we got a New York 326 00:15:56,160 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 1: ABC seven anchor Ken Risotto immediately, hold on, let me 327 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 1: say it like they said, well, Bernie maximum immediately he 328 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: got fired after hot mic insult aimed at his co 329 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 1: anchor told y'all man that co anchor gang, y'all don't 330 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 1: know how many people really don't like each other, but 331 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 1: they be up there swearing. 332 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 2: And hugging and kicking it. Oh the Jets go win 333 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 2: by three? No, I think by four? Oh, I love 334 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 2: you cut And then they'd be like, man, I can't 335 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 2: stand y it. 336 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 1: It's like, for real, it's just hilarious how people have 337 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 1: to fake chemistry. Well, obviously this was faked, and then 338 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: they got real local New York anchor Kim Risotto was 339 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 1: axed give me that from ABC seven for alleged C 340 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 1: word insult. 341 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 2: And it wasn't crip homie. He said something else aimed at. 342 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 1: His co anchor Shirlean allcot Now y'all know what the 343 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 1: SA word was, right, Long time and local Eyewitness News 344 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 1: this morning anchor was immediately fired after he called her 345 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: that on a hot mic. 346 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 2: Whoa first of all. 347 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: Eyewitness news in the morning. You were a big time 348 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 1: bruh and in New York. Damn dog, what a way 349 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:06,880 Speaker 1: to go out out like a sucker. Rosaldo was off 350 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 1: the air even worse. You got fired on your day off. 351 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 1: You weren't even working like that moment. 352 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 2: You weren't even doing nothing. He was off the air 353 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 2: when he allegedly uttered the word uttered the word that 354 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 2: means probably under his breath, right, but that mic, oh, 355 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 2: he catches at all. 356 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: He was told by insiders previously that his remark was 357 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 1: picked up on an open mic and that he was 358 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 1: immediately let go. 359 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 2: That was the trial right there. 360 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: As soon as they heard it, they said, what he's 361 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 1: Oh he gone, Peace Security, go get him out seven. 362 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 1: Rosalto's rep would not confirm or denied that he referred 363 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 1: to his colleague with the sea word, though his rep 364 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: had previously quickly shut down the insider speculation that the 365 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 1: anchor was caught on an open mic making racial remarks, 366 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:50,400 Speaker 1: y'all catch that. 367 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:55,399 Speaker 2: He like, Oh, I said the sea word. I don't know. 368 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 2: I don't know what you're gonna say. I don't know. 369 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 2: Play back to tape. But you said something that no, no, no, no, no, 370 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 2: he said in word. He's so crazy. These people in 371 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 2: a different space right now. 372 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 1: Said quote being fired for any racial slurs one hundred 373 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 1: percent inaccurate and untrue. Ken Rizzotto had a benchmark of 374 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 1: twenty years at WABC of supporting all equality. Casts out 375 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 1: here pandering like dall, ain't nobody caring about women being 376 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 1: called seas, but everybody cared about a black person getting 377 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 1: called in word. 378 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 2: So not me. 379 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 1: I'm trying to get another job. Go get another job 380 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 1: at the Collinger the Sea. Y'all get the point, all right? 381 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 1: So the people at ABC did not return the reporter's cause. Now, 382 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 1: let me give y'all a road to this, because this 383 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:38,679 Speaker 1: is crazy. He started working at the station as a 384 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 1: free lance reporter in two thousand and three. He put 385 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 1: twenty on it, two dimes of work on his resume 386 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:49,880 Speaker 1: at this place, later promoted to the morning. 387 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 2: And noon anchored. I mean in New York. Oh, he 388 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 2: eating he was doing all right, girl, and the station. 389 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 1: They haven't announced his public exit just yet, but they 390 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 1: said he's no longer with WABC. 391 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 2: I guess he's out on sick leave forever. That's what 392 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 2: that sounds like. And we thank him for his year 393 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 2: as a service. All right, here we go. 394 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 1: It's been happening a lot lately, these hot mic these 395 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 1: people just from a hot mic to just people actually 396 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 1: on air just saying stuff and slipping up the tongue 397 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 1: or Frodian slips. 398 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 2: We got all those, right. 399 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 1: We also got guys who are just turning on Instagram 400 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 1: live like Jahn Morant, filming themselves doing things that are irresponsible. 401 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:32,880 Speaker 2: All this going on, what's going on? 402 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:35,360 Speaker 1: Well, one, if you want to look at it from 403 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:41,199 Speaker 1: a sociological perspective, we are getting way too comfortable with 404 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 1: this thing right here, you know. And a guy who's 405 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 1: been twenty years in the game, way too comfortable with 406 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 1: this thing right here. I ain't about to talk on me. 407 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:51,920 Speaker 1: I'm talking about right here. That's called a microphone, right 408 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 1: you start forgetting the lines get blurred. Next thing, you know, 409 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 1: reality and performance are the same thing to you. I 410 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 1: should know that be because I'm going through that in 411 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 1: the episodes that I'm doing. 412 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 2: With my wife. Like you get so casual in your 413 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 2: in your public display. 414 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 1: You forgot nobody is telling everybody everything correct. That's why 415 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 1: we got group text. You really want to keep it real, 416 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 1: do a group text. That's all you gotta do, you know, 417 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: go on your group text and hit the sea word. 418 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 1: You ain't gotta go say it all your mouth at 419 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 1: work on a hot mic man. So that's a bad 420 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 1: way to go out. Here we go. Here's another thing 421 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 1: about it. Was it the right decision, like no time wasted? 422 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:37,159 Speaker 1: Get them out of here? Yes, it was. It's not 423 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 1: so much because of the sea word. Somebody was already 424 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 1: on their keyboard hitting me up. 425 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 2: Why do you gonna lose your whole career over one word? 426 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:48,440 Speaker 1: Come on, calm down, It's not just his whole career 427 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 1: over one word. You gotta think about when you're team 428 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 1: building and they're running a new station, right, that is 429 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 1: built on people in the community trusting them to give 430 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 1: them information. And part of that trust is those people 431 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 1: up there not only are giving it to me straight, 432 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 1: but also I like that they actually have a dynamic, 433 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:12,159 Speaker 1: They have a respect for each other, some form of 434 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:14,879 Speaker 1: relationship right because they're forming a relationship with me. 435 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:16,439 Speaker 2: I want to make sure I got. 436 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:19,439 Speaker 1: That triangular effect when you see those co hosts. But 437 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:25,120 Speaker 1: nothing goes well when the bosses catch when that y'all beefing. 438 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 1: I've been several places where I've seen guys get fired 439 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: or moved in different directions simply because they ain't get along. 440 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 2: Simple as that, y'all. Remember when Nick Wright and Chris. 441 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 1: Carter did not get along, well, they had to go 442 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 1: their separate ways. It's not always a demotion or promotion 443 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 1: or firing, but certainly we gonna separate, y'all. How about 444 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 1: separate but equal. You go there, you go there in 445 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 1: your corner, and you guys go on. That's the dynamic 446 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 1: at place. So beyond the C word, which is I 447 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 1: don't even think it's redeemed, but yeah, you should get 448 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 1: employed again, do your job, morant therapy for a day, 449 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 1: and then. 450 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:07,880 Speaker 2: You know, come back. I'm never gonna say the see 451 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,159 Speaker 2: word again, CUK like you know whatever he gonna do. 452 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:11,640 Speaker 2: But the point being. 453 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: For real, you just can't have that dynamic working together, 454 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: not when those who are writing the checks and those 455 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:21,479 Speaker 1: who have the authority actually catch witness of that. So 456 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 1: how would she feel going back talking about the next show, 457 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:25,640 Speaker 1: and you know it news. 458 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 2: All it is is murder arson robbery, murder arson robbery. 459 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 1: And then always saved the dog from running across the 460 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:34,919 Speaker 1: street and a cat from a tree. 461 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 2: That's all it is. 462 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 1: So that dynamic was severed as soon as he let 463 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:42,959 Speaker 1: that word out. Cook thanking you for your viewership on 464 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 1: Brings TV and your membership into Wiley's world on YouTube 465 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:51,199 Speaker 1: so you can get one of these Oh yeah, Wiley 466 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 1: Jersey before he got cut, like Doc Rivers just got cut. 467 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,439 Speaker 1: Oh man, Doc Rivers got acts at the three season 468 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 1: with the Philadelphia seventy six ers. Part of me saw 469 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: this coming, part of Doc had to see this coming. 470 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:06,360 Speaker 2: But it's okay. They still gonna pay me, that's what 471 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 2: they gonna do. And I'm gonna call the damn NBA 472 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 2: finals on ABC. That's what's happening right now. 473 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 1: Doc Rivers dismissed the team announced some people were already 474 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: calling for his head. I mean, look, in any situation 475 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 1: where you underachieved, you come up short. People looking for 476 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,920 Speaker 1: somebody's head to roll, and you can't fire the whole team. 477 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,640 Speaker 2: You can't cut the whole team. So they usually look 478 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 2: for the one who's. 479 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 1: A figurehead right the face of grab one of them 480 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,680 Speaker 1: instead of trying to grab them all because it wasn't 481 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 1: work that way. So Doc Rivers is now on the 482 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 1: chopping block. Seventy six were eliminated. We saw the Eastern 483 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:50,199 Speaker 1: Conference semifinals for the one two third straight season, and 484 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 1: they lost that game seven to Boston on Sunday. 485 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 2: Now, Doc Rivers recorded his NBA record. 486 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:02,880 Speaker 1: You don't want this record, y'all game seven defeat, including 487 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:06,719 Speaker 1: five in a row. I am just the problem with Google. 488 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:10,159 Speaker 1: This is the problem with analytics and Google. It's some 489 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:12,919 Speaker 1: nerd up there in that Sixers organization, and you know 490 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 1: he over the ears, he's dropping. 491 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:16,160 Speaker 2: You know, he ear hustling. He hear him in there 492 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 2: talking what do you think about Doc? Man? Will you think? 493 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 1: And somebody's like, nah, man, Doc got the room still, 494 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,439 Speaker 1: he got the locker room, he got the guys buying in. 495 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,680 Speaker 1: Even the NB went after game seven, is said it's 496 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 1: not Doc Rivers, right, James Harden said his relationship's okay 497 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 1: with him. 498 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,120 Speaker 2: I can't say it's Doc Rivers. 499 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:35,199 Speaker 1: And then that little nerd who's sitting there with the 500 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 1: glass to the door listening, said wait a minute. I 501 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,679 Speaker 1: don't think they understand Doc Rivers. Let me give it 502 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,959 Speaker 1: to them simply in the elevator pitch and when you 503 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 1: read that'sat line that that dude has had ten game 504 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 1: seven losses, include five half of them in a row, 505 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:54,880 Speaker 1: and it's going on right now currently. 506 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 2: Whoa that will switch your head? That will turn your head? 507 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,640 Speaker 1: No other head coaches more five game seven losses than 508 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 1: Doc Rivers. Obviously led for most of the first half 509 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 1: of that game, then the second half came out and 510 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,360 Speaker 1: they got bum rushed. What happens in the second half 511 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: Usually when you get bum rushed, people always attributed to 512 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 1: those halftime moments. Did you get the proper adjustments, did 513 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 1: you get the proper coaching? What happened? Basically you get 514 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,199 Speaker 1: out coaching the second half. So now they're expecting to 515 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:29,640 Speaker 1: hire a list of candidates, bring them in for interviews. 516 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 1: Mike Budenholzer, Sam Cassell, Dan tone Man, y'all so stupid, boy, 517 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 1: just be recurgitating names if Mike D'Antoni, Nick Nurse, Frank 518 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,399 Speaker 1: vogel Manni Williams. It's so crazy, like you get fired 519 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 1: from there, then you go here, and they expected to 520 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 1: be better there when it was good there, and you 521 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 1: were good there, like Minnie Williams was good there, but 522 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 1: he gonna be better in Philadelphia. I mean, I guess 523 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:57,160 Speaker 1: chemistry does matter. Those are the lists of candidates so far. 524 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,640 Speaker 1: Doc Rivers went out there in this three years sixty 525 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 1: five percent win percentage. 526 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,120 Speaker 2: Gotta love that, and that's the most in the. 527 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:08,919 Speaker 1: Franchise since the AI era two thousand and two thousand 528 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 1: and one. Here's the love that you get from the 529 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 1: organization when they want to just nicely and gently lay 530 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 1: you flat on your back. Doc is one of the 531 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 1: most successful coaches in NBA history. While you fired me, 532 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 1: there a future Hall of Famer and someone I respect immensely. 533 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:29,880 Speaker 2: I'm listening say what you really want to say. We're 534 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 2: grateful for all he. 535 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 1: Did in his three seasons here and thank him for 536 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,879 Speaker 1: the important impact he made on our franchise. Can you 537 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: hurry up and say what you really mean? After having 538 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,439 Speaker 1: a chance, here we go. After having a chance to 539 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,640 Speaker 1: reflect upon our season, we decided that. 540 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 2: Certain changes going to Nick, a change. 541 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:50,680 Speaker 1: Are necessary to further our goals of competing for a championship. 542 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 1: Daryl Moury said that d Darryl Mooy, Yeah, Houston guy 543 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 1: Darryl Mory got the power to do that to Doc Rivers. 544 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 2: That crazy game is twisted, y'all. Hilarious. 545 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 1: So now the Sixers joined the Bucks, the Suns, the Raptors, 546 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:15,399 Speaker 1: and the Pistons. All teams would head coach openings and won. 547 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 1: Two of those teams just. 548 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 2: Won a championship and the third one was just in 549 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:24,160 Speaker 2: the championship. Man, the game. Don't wait right now, it 550 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 2: is cut rope out there. 551 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 1: Now, Doc Rivers may not be in that respect because 552 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 1: he didn't win a championship and he didn't even get 553 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 1: the team to a championship. Matter of fact, didn't get 554 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:38,680 Speaker 1: him past the conference semifinals. But still Doc Rivers, y'all, 555 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 1: they don't see it like that. And he just delivered 556 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 1: his sixteenth straight winning season. But is that really a thing? 557 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,399 Speaker 1: Because forty one and forty one is five hundred, so 558 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 1: you won forty two games and more? 559 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 2: Are you really that guy? 560 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,440 Speaker 1: So people want to know what's the reason why Doc 561 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 1: Rivers got to let go and why is he always 562 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 1: fall short and high pressure high state games? And did 563 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 1: he deserve to be fired? Let me say this, let 564 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 1: me give you a little speculation on this. People who 565 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 1: don't do well in high state games tend to be 566 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 1: two types. 567 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 2: One is somebody who's rapped too tight. Right. 568 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 1: Peyton Manning came to mind early. Peyton Manning right because 569 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 1: he sold them sold THEMN locked in. He sold them 570 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 1: intense in normal situations. He's so intense that when the 571 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 1: situation is actually intense, oh man, he's boiling over right. 572 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 1: He's actually not as efficient. So that was one, But 573 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,199 Speaker 1: that's not doc Rivers. He doesn't seem rap tight. I 574 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 1: know him personally, so I know he's not rap tight. 575 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 1: The other part is attention to detail when it doesn't matter. 576 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 2: Y'all get that attention to detail when it doesn't matter, because. 577 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 1: When it does matter, guess what, it's too late to 578 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 1: pay attention to detail because they are too and they 579 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 1: might have momentum and talent going for him, as well 580 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 1: as the history of paying attention to those details. So basically, 581 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:09,239 Speaker 1: y'all ever seen the most talented team lose to the 582 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 1: most disciplined team. 583 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 2: We see it all the time. We even racialize it, right. 584 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 1: You always talk about the hood team, the all black 585 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 1: team going out to the suburbs, and the all white team. 586 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 1: Then you be all the hood team got more talent 587 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 1: than the white team, more disciplined. We've seen it, we 588 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 1: generalized it, we stereotyped it, we really actually experienced. 589 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 2: It right, And then as you know, you're like, yoh, 590 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 2: y'all lose because this type fist. 591 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 1: Beats, these fingers played everywhere in different directions. So attention 592 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 1: to detail matters when it doesn't matter. 593 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 2: And I'm not so certain watching the seven footer like 594 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 2: in bad hitting like step back threes and dribbled drive 595 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 2: back pedaling to threes is the best way to play him, right. 596 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 2: I know he's an amazing perimeter player. 597 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 1: I know he's amazing with his back to the basket, 598 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 1: So it's like he can do it all. But those 599 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 1: details get highlighted when you get into the postseason because 600 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 1: now teams are going to put you in your sour spot, 601 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 1: not your sweet spot, in your sour spot, and now 602 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,719 Speaker 1: what's your plan be I know this from coaching just 603 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 1: a few years. I've been coaching, like in high intense moments, 604 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 1: who can clearly think. 605 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 2: Through those situations. 606 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 1: Maybe doc gets a little foggy, maybe those adjustments are 607 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 1: so thorough, whatever it is in that moment when the 608 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 1: fire is burning and the temperature is rising. Other coaches 609 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 1: are finding ways, even in the game seven, finding ways 610 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 1: to see clearly the path of here where Doc Rivers 611 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 1: gets bogged down, especially in so many high intense moments. 612 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:47,960 Speaker 1: So I think that's pretty much sums up what Doc 613 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 1: Rivers is going through. Question is if he's trying to 614 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 1: come to your team, if you want Doc Rivers as 615 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 1: your coach, raise your head. 616 00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 2: I don't see anybody. 617 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 1: Let me stop case, y'all anyway, But the point is, 618 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 1: do you want Doc Rivers as the coach of your 619 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 1: favorite basketball team? Because it looks like people in Philadelphia 620 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 1: have raised their head and they have said, nah, no more, 621 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 1: not us, peace out. 622 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 2: B all right, y'all, y'all. Now we in every show 623 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 2: with a wiy is. This is a good one, but 624 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 2: it's gonna take a second. 625 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 1: By working faithfully eight hours a day, you may eventually 626 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 1: get to be the boss and work twelve hours a day. 627 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 2: Oh. I had to bring that one. I saw that one. 628 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 1: I was like, man, that's a long run a run 629 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 1: on sentence. That's too damn long. Then I was like, 630 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 1: but it's so damn poignant. It's so important to know that, 631 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 1: no matter what level you are, people think that the 632 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 1: higher you get, the less you gotta do. 633 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 2: To a point, you gotta get there first. So to 634 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 2: be the boss, it costs to be the boss, right, 635 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 2: So you was like, oh, man, I'm out here grinding 636 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 2: for him. 637 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 1: That sucker be grinding too, man, cause he gotta watch 638 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 1: over all this and make sure all of this is 639 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 1: still going on that way, and normally it's him having 640 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 1: to make sure that has occurred. And everybody knows that 641 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 1: true power is in you actually delegating. So true power 642 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 1: is having the authority, having the supervision that you can 643 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 1: delegate to others. 644 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 2: But you still got to put in that work, right. 645 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 2: So it's like almost a kid who goes from high 646 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 2: school to college and college to the pros and he 647 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:25,719 Speaker 2: think he made it. 648 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you made it from having to work on 649 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 1: your game three four hours a day till you better 650 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 1: work on it six and seven hours a day or 651 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 1: else you ain't gonna make it far. So by working 652 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 1: faithfully eight hours a day, you may eventually get to 653 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 1: be the boss. 654 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 2: You made it. Now you get to work twelve hours 655 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 2: a day, all right, y'all got to do it. 656 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 1: For more to it, check the show notes for all 657 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 1: the information on our topics today today. 658 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 2: Want to keep the conversation going. Let's talk to find 659 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 2: me on all socials. 660 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 1: M Marcel's Wiley More Too is a production of Dan 661 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 1: Patrick Production that Dude Entertainment and workhouse Media. 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