1 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, Radio News. 2 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 2: Single best Idea, What a show today with all the 3 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 2: economic data CPI, retail sales in that and our guests 4 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:23,280 Speaker 2: rally great to have Dana Telsey with us a Telsey Advisor, 5 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:26,119 Speaker 2: way too short a visit with her, but important and 6 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 2: retail sales are a little soggy, particularly the Control group. 7 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 2: She made very clear that there's a partition in America. 8 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 2: Luxury's really doing quite well. She's optimistic about a redo 9 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 2: in China of demand, but away from that, there was 10 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:42,559 Speaker 2: some sogginess to retail sales. What ad joy to have 11 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 2: Gena Martin Adams with her courage to be in the market, 12 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:50,559 Speaker 2: Bloomberg Intelligence and just before her Edyard Denny truly iconic 13 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 2: Edyard Denny reaffirming SPX fifty four hundred and the idea 14 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 2: that corporations are moving forward. We certainly saw that within 15 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 2: the equity markets as well. There was a little bit 16 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 2: of fed analysis. Paul Donovan outstanding. If you're on LinkedIn, 17 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 2: We send this out Single best Idea out to Twitter 18 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:13,559 Speaker 2: and LinkedIn every day, and if you're on LinkedIn, look 19 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:17,559 Speaker 2: up Paul Donovan of UBS. He does a great, great 20 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 2: job bringing the UBS knowledge to LinkedIn. Mister Donovan was 21 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 2: fired up today about a FED that is not so 22 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 2: much wrong wrong, wrong, but much more behind behind behind 23 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 2: here is Donovan of UBS. 24 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 3: I would be looking to cut rates already because if 25 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 3: you look at the market based prices, the prices that 26 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 3: FED policy actually influences. That's in this inflation territory. You 27 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 3: look at durable goods prices, that's in outright deflation territory. 28 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 3: Here it does how therapy think that keeping interest rates 29 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 3: higher for longer is going to bring down owners equivalent 30 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 3: rent because newslash it isn't it doesn't have any impact 31 00:01:57,600 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 3: on owners equivalent rent. It certainly off for the downside 32 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 3: might actually raise it. And that's where we're finding this 33 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 3: stickiness in inflation. It's in the made up prices, the 34 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 3: fantasy prices. Now we saw obviously a big bond market reaction. 35 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 3: So the last CPI print, the March number, which came 36 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 3: in stronger than expected. Why did it come in stronger 37 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 3: than expected because of rents in Detroit. We can't base 38 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 3: an entire country's monetary policy on whether or not the 39 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 3: cost of a condominium Michigan is going up or not. 40 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 2: Paul Dnovan just brilliant there and really you know, always 41 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 2: always intense, but fired up there on what we need 42 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 2: to see. June twelfth, at the next FED meeting, we 43 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 2: looked at equities today and of course we did look 44 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:44,959 Speaker 2: at Barnes, Matt Michigan of Johnny Hancock. Thank you for attendance. 45 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 2: Right around the eight thirty report. Ira Jersey of Bloomberg 46 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 2: Intelligence is just brilliant about the focus on short paper 47 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:55,119 Speaker 2: he will publish for Bloomberg Intelligence. I think you'll see 48 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:58,359 Speaker 2: that as we tape this within an hour, that'll be very, 49 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 2: very important to look at this readjustment equities higher, the 50 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 2: real yield coming in that's been bracketed. I'm going to 51 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 2: say two ten to two twenty two, ten to two eighteen, 52 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 2: and the ten year really breaking down beneath two point 53 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 2: one zero percent off the set of economic data today. 54 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 2: Before that, we talked to Megan Graper, she's outstanding at Berkeley's. 55 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 2: We talked to her about corporate issuance. We talked to 56 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 2: her about debt markets. 57 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:27,639 Speaker 1: I think you've got to think about taking chips off 58 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: the table because we don't know what we don't know. 59 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: So the second half of the year, I think presents 60 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: the potential for any number of land mines to start 61 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: rearing their head. And so while you have these optimal 62 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: demand technicals in place, you know, even thinking about your 63 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five funding needs and pulling those forward. I mean, 64 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: acceleration is now the defining force behind the new issue 65 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: markets and investment grade. And so we're we're seeing volumes 66 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 1: at forty percent, but it's not precluding borrowers from achieving 67 00:03:56,240 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: negative new issue concessions versus their existing secondaries. And you're 68 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 1: seeing over subscriptions that are pretty eye popping, particularly in 69 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 1: the long end of the curve. So the combination of 70 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: those factors means, you know, double down, continue to pull 71 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: funding forward, and I think you know, avoid the noise 72 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:16,720 Speaker 1: that might start to creep in and the rate volatility 73 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: we're likely to experience as we move into the second 74 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: half of the year. 75 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 2: Some people say, what do we follow here? Paul's very 76 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 2: good about following the CD race. Somebody tweeted in live 77 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 2: chat on YouTube. They tweeted and they had a five 78 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 2: point three five percent six months CD, which sounds like 79 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 2: from another era. Another age is a police to scene 80 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 2: of the mesa scene I can't remember which era. But 81 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 2: the answer is in one of the great themes today 82 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 2: on the show across equities, bonds, currencies, commodities is we're 83 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:48,719 Speaker 2: back to normal in the bond market, at least in pricing. 84 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 2: I don't know if our brains are back to normal, 85 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 2: and that'll certainly be one of our themes into the 86 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 2: caution that Megan Raper talks about. Into the end of 87 00:04:56,800 --> 00:05:00,840 Speaker 2: two thousand and twenty four, just an except day for 88 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 2: us on linking in this economics into the markets. 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