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Speaker 2: hour of the program. All Right, Patrick Mahomes practices and
Speaker 2: looks like he'll be ready to go coming up this weekend.
Speaker 2: You have the Thursday night football. It's a tough stretch
Speaker 2: for some teams where you got three games in eleven days,
Speaker 2: and that's putting a whole lot of stress. I would
Speaker 2: think on some of these teams this time of the
Speaker 2: year when you're just trying to stay healthy to get
Speaker 2: ready for the postseason. And here's Mahomes who got banged
Speaker 2: up with the high ankle spring, but he'll still be
Speaker 2: playing it. But this is this is where if you're
Speaker 2: a coach, how can you coach your players to play
Speaker 2: safe or safer not take risk? Because look at Detroit.
Speaker 2: I mean, they're so banged up on the defensive side
Speaker 2: of the ball, and you know Dan Campbell doesn't coach
Speaker 2: that way. But can you play to not get hurt
Speaker 2: and players will say that's usually when you do get
Speaker 2: hurt seton. What's the poll question for the first hour
Speaker 2: of the program.
Speaker 4: Well, we got a few options here for you, quarterback
Speaker 4: whose future I'm most curious about?
Speaker 2: Your options? Here are Cousins, Rogers, Lawrence other Okay, so
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers, Trevor Lawrence, Kirkty, Cousins, what about Sam Darnold. Okay,
Speaker 2: that's a great one. Do you put Rock Perdy in there?
Speaker 2: Or does that feel like, of course they're going to
Speaker 2: hold on to brock perty see anybody else that we
Speaker 2: would put it now? I think that's that's the final four.
Speaker 2: Those are the ones we've been talking about. Speaking of
Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins, not many backup quarterbacks go to a press conference,
Speaker 2: but he talked about getting benched yesterday.
Speaker 5: You know, it's pro football, you know, as a standard
Speaker 5: that you know I have for myself, the team has
Speaker 5: for me that Unfortunately I wasn't playing for that standard
Speaker 5: consistently enough. You know, it is what it is. You know,
Speaker 5: you still get ready, you know, one play away kind
Speaker 5: of a thing, and support Mike and and just try
Speaker 5: to help our team, you know, be able to find
Speaker 5: a way to win these last three to get in
Speaker 5: the playoffs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not surprised that, you know, this would be
Speaker 2: his approach. He's sort of the Jimmy Stewart of NFL quarterbacks.
Speaker 2: You know, it's a wonderful life. I'll try to make
Speaker 2: it great for the other guy, and yeah, hey, get
Speaker 2: Mike in there and let him play. Here's Michael Pennix
Speaker 2: Junior on how he found out he was the starter
Speaker 2: with the Falcons.
Speaker 6: I was actually shopping shopping with my girlfriend, was at Costco,
Speaker 6: and I got to call in. You know, they they
Speaker 6: they told me that I was going to be the
Speaker 6: starting quarterback, you know, for the for the rest of
Speaker 6: the season. And you know, as you can imagine, it
Speaker 6: was some nerves as an excitement, you know, but I
Speaker 6: was actually getting a hot dog, and whenever I got
Speaker 6: the car, I wasn't hungry no more so.
Speaker 2: All right, getting your food at Costco. That's how you
Speaker 2: find out that you're gonna be the starting quarterback.
Speaker 7: Yes, Todd, he wasn't hungry anymore because of nerves or
Speaker 7: because I shouldn't be eaten hot dog.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be the starting quarterback. That's not something I
Speaker 2: should be putting.
Speaker 8: In my body.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I wasn't there. It was the first
Speaker 2: thing I thought I could. Couldn't ask him. I can't
Speaker 2: eat a hot dog.
Speaker 8: I'm the starting quarterback. It's a terrible thing to you.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I'm so nervous about starting.
Speaker 9: I got no appetite now.
Speaker 2: No, I think it's time to go to work. Probably
Speaker 2: lost his appetite. Time to go to work. I gotta leave,
Speaker 2: let's go. I gotta I gotta watch some film here
Speaker 2: on the Giants. So Michael Pennix Junior will get this start.
Speaker 2: And he talked about what Kirk Cousins said to him.
Speaker 6: You know, he's in my corner, you know, the same
Speaker 6: way that I was for him whenever he was a starter.
Speaker 6: He said that he was. He was gonna come into
Speaker 6: the building. You know, you to stay positive and you know,
Speaker 6: do whatever he can to help me out and you know,
Speaker 6: help his team with football gamesl Okay.
Speaker 2: He's thirty six. He's had a great career financially, I
Speaker 2: mean statistically as well. Is he going to be a
Speaker 2: starter someplace? Could you see him as a one year starter? Probably?
Speaker 2: I could see him. I think he's I think he's
Speaker 2: been too good to not be a starter. We talked
Speaker 2: about destinations yesterday. Maybe the Giants if they draft a quarterback,
Speaker 2: would you have Kirk Cousins one year?
Speaker 4: Yes, Yeah, I was gonna actually throw that out as
Speaker 4: another poll question. We'd sort of hit it yesterday. But
Speaker 4: where does Kirk Cousins land? Giants, Brown's Colts, Jets?
Speaker 2: But I hope it's not the Jets. If there was
Speaker 2: an article that came out and it sounds like it's
Speaker 2: a mess with the Jets, Dinah Rassini had been a
Speaker 2: really detailed article with a couple other writers with the
Speaker 2: Athletic and just about Woody Johnson, who really sounds clueless.
Speaker 2: And it's one of those you can get rid of
Speaker 2: a quarterback, you can trade a quarterback, or you can
Speaker 2: fire the head coach or fire the GM. You can't
Speaker 2: do anything with the owner. You know, the Cowboy fans,
Speaker 2: if you said, hey, would you want another owner the
Speaker 2: last thirty years, they probably say yeah. The Washington commanders
Speaker 2: would yeah. Well I'm sure they said that. Can we
Speaker 2: get somebody else in here? But with the Jets, it
Speaker 2: starts there. Leadership starts there. Everything, just the feel in
Speaker 2: the building starts there. Who is he? What does he know,
Speaker 2: what decisions do you make? Who does he confer with?
Speaker 2: And then you find out that they were going to
Speaker 2: trade for Jerry Judy, who I think has one thousand
Speaker 2: receiving yards for the Browns, they were going to trade
Speaker 2: with the Broncos. And then Woody Johnson I think found
Speaker 2: out from his sons that Jerry Judy didn't have a
Speaker 2: good Madden reading. Oh oh yeah, so they didn't make
Speaker 2: the trade. He didn't have a good Madden rading. But
Speaker 2: I guess his sons or grandsons, I guess the family's
Speaker 2: more involved in this now. And it is. It is
Speaker 2: a deep dive into the Jets mess. And Woody Johnson
Speaker 2: doesn't come out of this looking like he knows what
Speaker 2: he's doing. And there's a reason why the Jets. You know,
Speaker 2: it's Jetsyon. They just do things and you go, that's
Speaker 2: just Jetsyon. Yes, Mark is knowing who the owner is
Speaker 2: a bad sign for a franchise, Like if you know
Speaker 2: who the owner is for the most part, well, Robert
Speaker 2: Kraft did really well in New England, so I mean
Speaker 2: I would start there. Jerry Buss with the Lakers, I
Speaker 2: think I think there's certain ownership individuals not groups, but
Speaker 2: individuals where you know, it's the Rooney family with the Steelers.
Speaker 2: But for the most part, now, I mean, i'd rather
Speaker 2: not see the owner, hear the owner. You know, when
Speaker 2: I see Arthur Blank on the sidelines with the Falcons,
Speaker 2: I just know they're gonna lose. It just feels like, oh,
Speaker 2: there's Arthur. Just stay up there. You know what, you
Speaker 2: want to congratulate them after the game. You want to
Speaker 2: bring your girlfriend down there on the field. Hey, look
Speaker 2: at us, a little photo op. And then all of
Speaker 2: a sudden, it's like we're gonna win the super Bowl.
Speaker 2: Now all cameras are on me because we're going to
Speaker 2: lose the Super Bowl. I'd prefer my owner stayed upstairs. Yes, Martin,
Speaker 2: you only see the Rooneys at the Super Bowl podium. Yeah,
Speaker 2: go the time you see those guys. Yeah, the Marra
Speaker 2: family with the giants. But you know you're looking at
Speaker 2: what the chets. I mean, if you read the article,
Speaker 2: you go now I know, now I know that we're cursed.
Speaker 2: You know, when Woody Johnson was the ambassador to Ireland,
Speaker 2: I think first go around with President Trump and then
Speaker 2: he got passed over this time around. I think in
Speaker 2: the building. They were hoping that he would go back, like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, he's not gonna be and I think
Speaker 2: they called him mister ambassador in the building. Yes, what
Speaker 2: a mess. What's the reason why we're not trading for
Speaker 2: Jerry Judy? Have you seen his Madden rating? You base
Speaker 2: all your information on that. You got all of these
Speaker 2: analytic guys, data stats, everything, but when the owner bigfootshoo,
Speaker 2: there's nothing you can do. He wanted to bench Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 2: They fired Robert Salah, I mean Joe Douglas. I mean
Speaker 2: they fired people mid season, and that's all ownership. Owners
Speaker 2: It starts there. But it's a mess. You know, if
Speaker 2: you feel bad about your franchise, read this article. You
Speaker 2: will feel better about your franchise, your team, your ownership group. Uh,
Speaker 2: let's see what else do we have. Deon Sanders keeps
Speaker 2: saying that he wants to stay at Colorado and they've
Speaker 2: had a pretty good recruiting year. He was on the
Speaker 2: pac Man Jones podcast and had this to say, I love.
Speaker 10: Where I am. I mean related where I am. I'm
Speaker 10: happy where I am. I can't wait to see what
Speaker 10: the future beholds where I am, and I love both
Speaker 10: of Colorado. So I have every intention, every plan in
Speaker 10: the world to be coaching for the Colorado Buffs from
Speaker 10: here on.
Speaker 9: I want to finish here.
Speaker 2: I want to put the flag.
Speaker 10: I want my names on the mountains out there. I
Speaker 10: want to put a flag down in Colorado.
Speaker 2: Okay, if Deon truly feels this way, he should reach
Speaker 2: out to stephen A. Smith and tell Steven to shut
Speaker 2: up and stop having d up for every job. You
Speaker 2: know Steven A Is saying, oh, he should replace Ryan
Speaker 2: Day at Ohio State, he should be the next Cowboys
Speaker 2: head coach, Paul Feinbaum saying, oh, he should go to
Speaker 2: USC if you truly believe you're not helping Dion by
Speaker 2: promoting him for these other jobs, because if I'm a recruit,
Speaker 2: the first thing I'm saying is, wait a minute, are
Speaker 2: you going to go to the Raiders with your son?
Speaker 2: What if the Cowboys call? I can't see him At
Speaker 2: Ohio State. Mike Vrabel would get that job. But you know,
Speaker 2: Dion's friends keep promoting him for these other jobs, and
Speaker 2: it hurts Dion at Colorado because I want to know,
Speaker 2: are you going to be there? I hope he stays there.
Speaker 2: He's great for college football. But if he wants to leave,
Speaker 2: that's his, you know, prerogative, and he would be joining
Speaker 2: a long list of coaches who told us one thing
Speaker 2: and did something else. Yes, Tod, you probably want to
Speaker 2: say I want to win national titles as opposed to
Speaker 2: putting a flag down.
Speaker 9: Based on what's going on in the world these days in.
Speaker 2: College football, it's probably not the best choice of work.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you. It's a figure of speech. I think.
Speaker 2: I don't think he meant it literally.
Speaker 7: Actually put the flag down, because it's causing quite the controversy.
Speaker 9: I don't know if you've been watching some of these games
Speaker 9: I have.
Speaker 8: I have.
Speaker 2: We were talking about Kirk Cousins. PAULI has a wild
Speaker 2: card spot for Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 7: Where he thinks he would end up the San Francisco
Speaker 7: forty nine ers. Imagine you don't want to give party
Speaker 7: two hundred and sixty million dollars and can trade for
Speaker 7: him for almost nothing, but due a Russell Wilson ware,
Speaker 7: the Atlanta Falcons are paying most of it for next year.
Speaker 7: Possible gap year situation with Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 2: Okay, see, you would bring him in as the backup
Speaker 2: to Brock Purty.
Speaker 7: Yeah, have both of them on the roster, and best
Speaker 7: man wins. It's a it's an interesting option for them
Speaker 7: at the quarterback.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So if you want to bring in a quarterback who
Speaker 4: frust dreadingly keeps you just short of where you're trying
Speaker 4: to go, here's another one for you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we already got a couple. Yeah. Yeah, Jimmy g
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 4: That the forty nine ers have a little bit of
Speaker 4: a history of disrespecting the quarterbacks who have done well
Speaker 4: for them. So I wouldn't be surprised if they got
Speaker 4: rid of Rock Party. I don't know, it's that easy
Speaker 4: to get to the Super Bowl. No, it's really not. Oh,
Speaker 4: the Rams got rid of Jared Goff. Is Jared Goff
Speaker 4: better than Rock Party? I'd say yes, right.
Speaker 2: I'd tell you, yes, that's a push.
Speaker 8: I guess.
Speaker 2: I forgot you are. You're at the front of the class,
Speaker 2: front of the line with the Rock Pretty fan club
Speaker 2: that started years ago in college October. Yeah, the problem
Speaker 2: was Rock November and Brock December.
Speaker 4: But b October every year it was magic awesome.
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Speaker 2: He's Cavin O'Connell, third years, the Vikings head coach and
Speaker 2: a former backup NFL quarterback. What did you keep from
Speaker 2: your days as a backup quarterback?
Speaker 9: What did I keep?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jersey, you know.
Speaker 12: Some tough memories of uh you know, anytime it was
Speaker 12: windy or rainy and I couldn't throw the football. But
Speaker 12: uh uh no, I I I've got, I've got, I've
Speaker 12: got everything.
Speaker 9: My wife would probably tell you that I keep too
Speaker 9: much stuff.
Speaker 12: I got jerseys, I I uh you know, I got
Speaker 12: a pair of Ladanian Tomlinson's cleats from when my locker
Speaker 12: was next to him at uh you know his uh
Speaker 12: my last year with the Jets.
Speaker 2: Wait, did you ask him for those? Or did you
Speaker 2: take those? I can't recalls.
Speaker 9: Let's not go there this morning. Actually no, I did.
Speaker 9: I did ask him.
Speaker 2: I did ask He might be one of he might
Speaker 2: be one of the most underrated players of all time.
Speaker 9: Totally agree.
Speaker 2: I mean his stats are crazy. I went over those
Speaker 2: two days ago. I was just looking and I go, gosh,
Speaker 2: he's not meant when we talked great running backs of
Speaker 2: all time. He's one of those we got to come
Speaker 2: back to and go, oh, yeah, you're right. LT was great.
Speaker 12: No, there's no doubt. And how he did it too.
Speaker 12: I mean there were some games he was thirty plus carries.
Speaker 12: There was other games he had ten plus catches. I mean,
Speaker 12: super super impactful.
Speaker 2: You wouldn't have got your chance if Brady didn't get
Speaker 2: hurt that year.
Speaker 12: It was you know, it was actually you know when
Speaker 12: it happened, that was back. That was back kind of
Speaker 12: you know before some of the rules that we have
Speaker 12: now with the you know where you have to clearly
Speaker 12: define who the third quarterback is. So you know, there
Speaker 12: was there was a moment in that in that when
Speaker 12: when Tom went down where Matt Castle and I weren't
Speaker 12: sure who was going in the game, and then Matt
Speaker 12: went out there and and uh, you know we were
Speaker 12: if I if I recall correctly, there was a moment
Speaker 12: early there where we were backed up and he threw
Speaker 12: Randy Moss a big completion from you know, standing in
Speaker 12: the shadows of his own goalpost, and uh, he the
Speaker 12: rest was history from there.
Speaker 9: He he had an unbelievable year.
Speaker 12: That was a that was a really interesting year because
Speaker 12: you know, you're you go to New England, you think
Speaker 12: you're going to be watching the greatest quarterback of all time. Uh,
Speaker 12: you know, go to work every week and then something
Speaker 12: catastrophic like that happens, and then just to be there
Speaker 12: side by side through that with Matt and and and
Speaker 12: Matt and I became really close and watch him go
Speaker 12: through it, and he was so prepared for the moment,
Speaker 12: had been there for a pretty good chunky.
Speaker 9: Years kind of just learning and growing and developing.
Speaker 12: And then watch him go out and execute every week
Speaker 12: and shoot, we won if I don't if I recall, right,
Speaker 12: I think we won eleven games and didn't.
Speaker 9: Make the playoffs. It was it was kind of a
Speaker 9: one of one thing.
Speaker 2: Do you do the nobody believes us type speech?
Speaker 9: Well, you know it was to me at the beginning
Speaker 9: of the year. Dan.
Speaker 12: It was easy to say to give that speech because
Speaker 12: that would have been accurate at the time, you know.
Speaker 9: But I did have.
Speaker 12: A feeling about this team, even going back into the offseason.
Speaker 12: New editions arrive and you're kind of just seeing the
Speaker 12: team come together, and it seemed like every few days.
Speaker 12: I remember vividly a conversation I had with Harrison Smith
Speaker 12: second or third day of training camp, and I just
Speaker 12: kind of walked up to him and we were talking
Speaker 12: and kind of assessing.
Speaker 9: You know.
Speaker 12: It was during special teams, and I said, Harry, I
Speaker 12: think we'd be pretty good, and he's like, I think
Speaker 12: so too, and we kind of just kept on.
Speaker 9: Having good days.
Speaker 12: And my whole focus was just it really wasn't about
Speaker 12: you know, motivating from a standpoint of, Hey, nobody's talking
Speaker 12: about us or the wind projections or anything like that.
Speaker 9: I didn't get into all that.
Speaker 12: It was just trying to get these guys to truly
Speaker 12: see if we can maximize every day.
Speaker 9: And it's it's it can be a cliche if.
Speaker 12: You're you know, if you're if you're not authentically believing
Speaker 12: it that that's the most important thing for this team
Speaker 12: this year. But I truly did feel between our you know,
Speaker 12: having a new quarterback and and and just you know,
Speaker 12: so many new faces on the defense and flow kind
Speaker 12: of bringing that group together every single day, we had
Speaker 12: to maximize the time we had and if we didn't,
Speaker 12: you know, I didn't necessarily think we would reach our
Speaker 12: potential or you know, as early as we needed to
Speaker 12: have the kind of impact to get the confidence going
Speaker 12: to start really believing, and we were able to rip
Speaker 12: off five in a row to start the season, and
Speaker 12: we you know, I tell our team this sometimes because
Speaker 12: I want them to remember it, especially the totality of
Speaker 12: our roster. But we won all three preseason games. Dan,
Speaker 12: I'd never won a preseason game before, so that was
Speaker 12: you know, I was hoping that wouldn't be the marquee
Speaker 12: moment of the year for us. But you know, outside
Speaker 12: of losing two games in five days by two to
Speaker 12: Detroit and then going out playing Seawan and the Rams
Speaker 12: on the road on a short week, this team hasn't
Speaker 12: hasn't lost outside in the other you know, fifteen total opportunities.
Speaker 12: So proud of what we are, but means absolutely nothing.
Speaker 12: Got a heck of a challenge this week going to Seattle.
Speaker 12: Mike McDonald's got a you know, that's that's a tough
Speaker 12: watch on tape for an opposing team because he's he's
Speaker 12: doing some really good things on offense, defense, and special teams.
Speaker 2: Covin O'Connell, who I think is going to win the
Speaker 2: Coach of the Year. I don't does that matter to you?
Speaker 9: I you know, I'm lucky.
Speaker 12: I don't have a vote because there's a lot of
Speaker 12: really good coaches in our league.
Speaker 2: Man, Okay, who would you vote for for Coach of
Speaker 2: the year if you can vote for yourself.
Speaker 12: I can't envision a scenario like that, but if I
Speaker 12: can't vote for myself, I would probably say, you know,
Speaker 12: I think Dan Campbell in our division coaching against him.
Speaker 12: You know, that team is all we really well prepared, tough,
Speaker 12: They've they've truly taken on the persona of their head coach,
Speaker 12: which I think is.
Speaker 9: You know what what.
Speaker 12: Means, what means the most in this position, having done
Speaker 12: it now for three years. I think Mike Tomlin would
Speaker 12: be Uh, there's nobody I respect more than Mike Tomlin
Speaker 12: and and what he has consistently done his whole career.
Speaker 12: And I just love anytime I get a chance to
Speaker 12: be around him. He you know, I always take something
Speaker 12: from it and and just love, love, love him. But
Speaker 12: I would say probably one of those two guys can't
Speaker 12: can't sleep on Dan Quinn either.
Speaker 9: That's I know, that's that's been a heck of a
Speaker 9: year for them as well.
Speaker 2: Take me back to when you were offensive coordinated with
Speaker 2: the Rams, so like Cooper Cup's year, how crazy was
Speaker 2: that and and if you're calling plays, it seems like
Speaker 2: had to be pretty easy. If you're calling plays with
Speaker 2: with Matthew Stafford playing as well and Cooper Cup having
Speaker 2: the Triple Crown year.
Speaker 12: Well, I think what people don't give Cooper enough credit
Speaker 12: for is the position he plays in that offense. He
Speaker 12: you know, he made everyone remembers the third down catches
Speaker 12: and and Matthew hitting him, you know, on on a
Speaker 12: you know, a huge play against the Niners to kind
Speaker 12: of kind of break a game open when we had
Speaker 12: to have it.
Speaker 9: Or the Tampa Bay fourth.
Speaker 12: Down throw down the middle in the playoffs, uh, you know,
Speaker 12: or two minute throw, I should say. But what they
Speaker 12: don't see is when he's such an integral, integral part
Speaker 12: of the run game and the physicality and the toll
Speaker 12: that takes, you know, and and the jobs he's willing
Speaker 12: to do the football intelligence. So it was I mean
Speaker 12: watching him, you know, I used to say there should
Speaker 12: be a fourth column that year he won the Triple Crown.
Speaker 12: You know, pancake blocks and you know amount of times
Speaker 12: he had to block a defensive end or a linebacker.
Speaker 12: And if there was that, I think people would recognize
Speaker 12: that year even more than what they did in the moment,
Speaker 12: and just watching him and Matthew Effort was one of
Speaker 12: the one of the kind of highlights of my career, honestly, Dan,
Speaker 12: because you know, in the mornings, these two guys are
Speaker 12: are meeting as if they're almost coaches and really talking
Speaker 12: about the nuances of things that and I remember I
Speaker 12: would just sometimes just you know, get a conversation started
Speaker 12: or be present for one that they were having and
Speaker 12: just kind of sit back and recognize how one of
Speaker 12: won that situation was because of where both those guys
Speaker 12: were at their careers, but also just the football intelligence
Speaker 12: of two human beings that can play the game at
Speaker 12: a high level. But some of the things they talked
Speaker 12: about were so beyond football five oh one. It was
Speaker 12: you know, you know, sometimes I would sit there and
Speaker 12: just hope they didn't call on me to answer a question.
Speaker 2: What's your role with Sam Darnold.
Speaker 12: I think my role with him is just I try
Speaker 12: to I tried to not, you know, be so heavily
Speaker 12: involved because I think Josh McCown and Grant Yudinsky in
Speaker 12: that room, we've got a really good kind of support
Speaker 12: system directly.
Speaker 9: For him in that room. In that room. What I
Speaker 9: try to really be is, you know, really three things.
Speaker 12: Is the play caller given him as much play intent
Speaker 12: of what I'm thinking, so I can eliminate any gray.
Speaker 12: I think one of the big things I've always thought
Speaker 12: a quarterback needs to know is that I'm not going
Speaker 12: to be standing or sitting in the room on Monday
Speaker 12: morning holding the clicker and say, hey, why didn't you
Speaker 12: do this?
Speaker 9: Hey, this guy's open, why didn't you throw that?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 12: What I try to say is give clear concise, Hey,
Speaker 12: this is what we're trying to get done. If that
Speaker 12: doesn't happen, if I give you a bad play, like,
Speaker 12: here's what I want you to do with it. Here's
Speaker 12: here's where you know your your outlet or your checkdowns
Speaker 12: are going to be. And let's live to fight another down.
Speaker 12: Let's not try to You don't need to be Superman
Speaker 12: for for us here, although I do think he's made
Speaker 12: some Superman and esque throws this year with the talent
Speaker 12: he has and his ability to throw it.
Speaker 9: And that's what I'm, you know, most trying to do
Speaker 9: on a one on one level.
Speaker 12: And then there's the element of how we're going to
Speaker 12: manage the game together because I do think the benefit
Speaker 12: of being the play caller and the head coaches a
Speaker 12: lot of times, you know, I can, I can, I
Speaker 12: can kind of help the management overall when we're gonna
Speaker 12: be ultra aggressive, when we're going to be you know,
Speaker 12: kind of in a mode of Hey, our defense is
Speaker 12: playing great, I'm gonna give you this play call, but
Speaker 12: let's make sure we ensure three points, or let's make
Speaker 12: sure that no matter what, we end this possession with
Speaker 12: or end this down with possession of the football, because
Speaker 12: if the way our defense is playing, if we don't
Speaker 12: do things to lose the game right now, we got
Speaker 12: a great chance to win it.
Speaker 9: And there's just a lot of times in the game where.
Speaker 12: That can get away from you if you don't have
Speaker 12: that direct line of communication with the quarterbacks.
Speaker 9: So I know those are probably the two things.
Speaker 12: And and then just you know, overall, just you know,
Speaker 12: just how we put it all together, making sure that
Speaker 12: he's an extension of me out there. And I feel
Speaker 12: really good about Sam's done a phenomenal job, Dan, he
Speaker 12: really has.
Speaker 2: I'll leave you with this. If every current NFL head
Speaker 2: coach took part in a passing contest, oh.
Speaker 12: I know, there'd be probably thirty two participants, but I
Speaker 12: don't know if we would classify all thirty two as
Speaker 12: passers of the football.
Speaker 2: Harball. You know thinks that he could win this.
Speaker 9: No doubt.
Speaker 12: He's probably got cleats on as we speak in bed,
Speaker 12: and he probably you know, I know for a fact
Speaker 12: I've seen him. He still throws it, probably as well
Speaker 12: as anybody. But I wouldn't sleep on on Cliff there
Speaker 12: in Washington. I know, you know he would qualify as
Speaker 12: a coordinator currently, but I know he he thinks he's
Speaker 12: not eligible.
Speaker 2: keV. He's not eligible, he's not.
Speaker 12: Well, then I'm putting myself in there. You got Zach Taylor,
Speaker 12: Sean Payton.
Speaker 2: Can he still throw throw it?
Speaker 9: I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 12: Probably, But and don't sleep on the McVeigh lafleur. You know,
Speaker 12: Kyle's a former receiver. But all those guys, they all
Speaker 12: think they can throw it.
Speaker 2: Andy Reid won the punt passing kick contest when he
Speaker 2: was thirteen years of age.
Speaker 9: It all makes sense now, of course.
Speaker 2: Good luck with the game against Seattle. Great to talk
Speaker 2: to you and congrats.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I always appreciate you, Dan, I really do, thank
Speaker 9: you for having me on.
Speaker 2: Thank you about It's Kevin O'Connell.
Speaker 1: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Speaker 1: Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio wapp.
Speaker 2: Let's welcome in Chris collins Worth Sunday Night Football. Come
Speaker 2: on in and join the conversation. There, Chris, good to him.
Speaker 3: Just tell me to shut up all the time. It
Speaker 3: doesn't matter what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2: Do you look at the comments after a game?
Speaker 9: Negative?
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, oh, I do not you it's
Speaker 3: did you well?
Speaker 9: Of course you know that.
Speaker 3: When I first got on social media, I had four followers,
Speaker 3: and my kids told me that I had to sign up.
Speaker 3: So I signed up, and I signed up, and so
Speaker 3: after the game, I was sitting there and I had
Speaker 3: four people, so I set all to all of them.
Speaker 3: You know, I went back on and hey, how you
Speaker 3: guys do it? I thought that's what social media was.
Speaker 3: I had no idea, and they're like, Dad, no, you
Speaker 3: just you just get on because and then they started
Speaker 3: showing me how to do it. The thing, the thing
Speaker 3: that I found in our business is that generally people
Speaker 3: are very very nice. I mean, we travel all over
Speaker 3: the country we go in, they want to talk to you,
Speaker 3: they want to talk you know, blah blah blah. Hey
Speaker 3: love your show, great, this is a great but it's
Speaker 3: still like that one in whatever It would be one
Speaker 3: in fifty one in fifty that goes, hey aren't you
Speaker 3: Chris collins Worth and you're like yeah, And generally the
Speaker 3: first question is why do you hate the whatever their
Speaker 3: favorite team is? Right, That's that's the first one, and
Speaker 3: you know, then it's something along the lines that would
Speaker 3: you know, honestly, I think you suck and it just
Speaker 3: like it hits you like a ton of bricks because
Speaker 3: you're so used to people being so nice and coming
Speaker 3: up and and and being friendly and saying nice things.
Speaker 3: And then it's like the rest of the day you're
Speaker 3: walking around kicking the can down. You know, you're like
Speaker 3: all bummed out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I and I'm not on social media, but
Speaker 2: you know, we have a social media presence with the show.
Speaker 2: I think if there's something that we make a mistake on,
Speaker 2: or I made a mistake on and somebody wants to
Speaker 2: correct me, I'm fine with that. But the other stuff,
Speaker 2: you know, I appreciate people listening or watching, but I
Speaker 2: don't need to read your appreciation for the show. You're
Speaker 2: you're already you know, showing me appreciation with that. But
Speaker 2: then you'll get people saying, I hate you so much,
Speaker 2: but I watch every day. I mean, like, damn, thank you,
Speaker 2: that's what I thank you.
Speaker 3: Appreciate that.
Speaker 2: Uh, your reaction to Kirk Cousins not only being benched,
Speaker 2: but to have a rookie who hasn't played much with
Speaker 2: three games to go.
Speaker 3: We did an Atlanta game early on against Kansas City,
Speaker 3: I think it was, and even then Dan, they were
Speaker 3: talking about, oh my goodness, we've got one here. And
Speaker 3: they you know, I'm sure they haven't come out and
Speaker 3: publicly you know, done that, but they were really excited
Speaker 3: about what they were seeing and they really did not
Speaker 3: want to play him. They really wanted to, you know,
Speaker 3: be the whole Jordan love. You know, just let him
Speaker 3: sit and let him watch and let him learn. And
Speaker 3: and you know, because there's a whole cadence to being
Speaker 3: the quarterback. You know, you have to go to you know,
Speaker 3: the press steel on Wednesday or whenever that thing is
Speaker 3: survive that you have to do.
Speaker 9: It after the game.
Speaker 3: You've got a million different obligations it's almost like being
Speaker 3: the head coach of the of the team, and it's hard,
Speaker 3: and so then you have to budget your time, and
Speaker 3: generally quarterbacks are going in on their off day on
Speaker 3: Tuesday and learning the game plan, and you know, it's
Speaker 3: just there's a lot that goes into it and seeing
Speaker 3: the live defenses and what they're going to do, and
Speaker 3: then what they're going to do to him will be
Speaker 3: completely different than what they've done to other guys. So
Speaker 3: I think they were really hoping they were going to
Speaker 3: make it through the year, but once they got to
Speaker 3: this point and it looked like the season was breaking
Speaker 3: a little bit and they were they had to have it.
Speaker 13: Now.
Speaker 3: I think they're putting him in to win. I don't
Speaker 3: think this is anything like, hey, let's take a look.
Speaker 3: It's I think at this point they really feel like
Speaker 3: he's the best option to win.
Speaker 2: The situation with Minnesota, Like it's a that would be
Speaker 2: a good quarterback dilemma. I would think the way Barkley's playing,
Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy, you know, got a chance to sit this year,
Speaker 2: maybe six next year, Like what do you do with
Speaker 2: Sam Donald if you were running the Vikings for the future.
Speaker 3: They really like JJ up there, I mean really like them.
Speaker 3: The plan, my opinion of what the plan was was
Speaker 3: that they were gonna let Sam Donald walk at the
Speaker 3: end of this thing. At least that's what it was
Speaker 3: early in the year. But not many teams go on
Speaker 3: a run like this, right, I mean, this is this
Speaker 3: is pretty special and they have a chance with the
Speaker 3: way they play defense and the way that Brian Flores
Speaker 3: is so good at just bringing that constant pressure and
Speaker 3: disrupting and making big plays and all the things that
Speaker 3: they do. And then Sam Donald has this, you know,
Speaker 3: jj is just unbelievable, and Addison has you know, proven
Speaker 3: what he can do, and this is this is a
Speaker 3: team with a chance to win it. I don't think
Speaker 3: there's a team currently that I would just go, oh
Speaker 3: that nobody's beating them, right, I just don't think there is.
Speaker 9: Right now.
Speaker 3: We've seen, you know, the Chiefs struggle, Detroit's got some injuries,
Speaker 3: Buffalo's had their moments, but Josh Allen's hot and all
Speaker 3: those sorts of things. But could the Minnesota Vikings win
Speaker 3: it all?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 3: And that was always my question. Everybody's that's the whole thing.
Speaker 3: Everybody's got to play until they get punched in the face.
Speaker 3: Everybody's got a plan until you win a Super Bowl,
Speaker 3: or you make it to the Super Bowl, or you
Speaker 3: make it to the championship game.
Speaker 9: And I was.
Speaker 3: Trying to determine what was the cutoff at which Sam
Speaker 3: Donald would have to be your quarterback, right, I mean,
Speaker 3: there's no going back if you went a Super Bowl.
Speaker 3: Sam Donald has to come back and be the quarterback.
Speaker 9: Doesn't he?
Speaker 3: And but the belief in what they saw out of
Speaker 3: the draft process with JJ McCarthy so strong. Even if
Speaker 3: they've made it to the championship game, I'm not sure.
Speaker 3: I'm just not sure that they don't switch to j J.
Speaker 2: Chris collins Worth will be on the call with Mike Trico.
Speaker 2: That'll be Sunday night. It's the Bucks and the Cowboys. Okay,
Speaker 2: the Cowboys are still a big rating strong? Is that Why's?
Speaker 2: But is that why you don't flex out of that game?
Speaker 9: I think it had.
Speaker 3: A little bit more to do with Tampa in this circumstance.
Speaker 3: And believe me, do you know how involved I am
Speaker 3: in which games we get on Sunday Zeros, they give
Speaker 3: me the same call they give everybody else. It's all
Speaker 3: sort of driven by the ratings, but ultimately it's driven
Speaker 3: by the league. And I think sometimes and I'm just
Speaker 3: making stuff up, but I do think there are teams
Speaker 3: that they want to get in front of a national
Speaker 3: audience before they get to the playoffs. Right Like Denver,
Speaker 3: Let's put them somewhere where that people are going to
Speaker 3: see them because that was a surprise team. I don't
Speaker 3: think you call Tampa's surprise team because they made it
Speaker 3: to the playoffs this season ago, but maybe not all
Speaker 3: the national exposures. So let's get them out front and center.
Speaker 3: You know, Baker Mayfield's player of the Week, they've got,
Speaker 3: you know, Mike Evans had a tremendous game a week ago.
Speaker 3: Let's let's get an audience used to that so that
Speaker 3: when we get to those playoff ratings, people people know
Speaker 3: what to expect.
Speaker 2: If Christian mccaffery's career ended today, is he a Hall
Speaker 2: of Famer?
Speaker 3: I mean he was the best player at his position
Speaker 3: for a couple of years. I would say probably at
Speaker 3: least Goy. With what these running backs are doing this season,
Speaker 3: it's hard to know what the expectation is at the
Speaker 3: running back position. But Christian McCaffery was my first overall
Speaker 3: pick in my fantasy league. So yeah, I've got a
Speaker 3: little personal you're mad at having the heart on that one.
Speaker 3: So but you know, he is a very unique player.
Speaker 3: Marshall Fulk like is how I would describe him. And
Speaker 3: you know, when Marshall Fulk was healthy and playing well,
Speaker 3: that ability, that one two punch, the tough running inside
Speaker 3: and what he does as a receiver. What they probably
Speaker 3: have missed the most this year is the ability to
Speaker 3: do you know, that little horizontal motion that they do
Speaker 3: with him and they just create one on ones. Well,
Speaker 3: teams were having to double team him at the running
Speaker 3: back position, which was opening up Debo and all those guys.
Speaker 3: I U to get one on one route and it's
Speaker 3: why you saw some big plays down the field.
Speaker 9: So yeah, it's tight.
Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, I don't think he's a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 2: I think Tiki Barber's more of a Hall of Fame
Speaker 2: than McCaffrey. If I'm just looking at numbers, if I
Speaker 2: said I'll give you a player A and player B,
Speaker 2: you would go with Tiki Barber's numbers over his. You know,
Speaker 2: Ricky Waters, look at his numbers, the ten thousand yards
Speaker 2: rushing he was a great receiver out of the backfield,
Speaker 2: Fred Taylor eleven thousand yards. You know, there's there's It's
Speaker 2: weird how we're trying to grade running backs because Roger
Speaker 2: Craig was a wonderful running back and was doing this
Speaker 2: hybrid stuff back then for the Niners. So I don't
Speaker 2: envy Hall of Fame voters trying to tell me who
Speaker 2: a Hall of Famer is at that position.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's my position. My position on the position has
Speaker 3: probably evolved over time. We had James Brooks here when
Speaker 3: I was playing, and James was a tremendous receiver and
Speaker 3: the ability for him to be basically a wide out
Speaker 3: helped our offense so much. And I think that today
Speaker 3: even though you know some of these running backs can certainly,
Speaker 3: you know, King Henry can certainly catch the ball. You know,
Speaker 3: Barkley can catch the ball. But McCaffrey's a receiver and
Speaker 3: a running back. And I think in today's game, where
Speaker 3: the rules allow you to hold, don't allow you to
Speaker 3: hit the quarterback, don't allow you to really attack the receiver.
Speaker 3: Cop would I have loved have played in the era
Speaker 3: where they couldn't hit you right there? You know, when
Speaker 3: if you don't have to think about that one.
Speaker 2: Dan.
Speaker 3: You know, if you're running over the middle and they
Speaker 3: hit you in the back, I want you to think
Speaker 3: about your body a little bit behind you, right behind you.
Speaker 3: The back of your head's hard. You've got ribs all
Speaker 3: the way down, You've got soft tissue. If you get
Speaker 3: hitting the butt, doesn't hurt that much. Get hurt hitting
Speaker 3: the hamstring cap, None of that stuff hurts. It's like
Speaker 3: it's all made salt. Your eyes are what has to
Speaker 3: protect the front of your body, right because everything here hurts,
Speaker 3: but that one right there, when they hit you right
Speaker 3: underneath the chin, that really but you you get hit
Speaker 3: in the stomach and obviously the privates, and you get
Speaker 3: hitting the thighs, you get hitting the shin. Think how
Speaker 3: much it hurts to get hitting the shin. Everything in
Speaker 3: front of your body has to be protected by your eyes.
Speaker 3: And I don't even know why I got in there,
Speaker 3: but that's it's a really interesting thing. Someday, when you're
Speaker 3: at a cocktail party and you're about three beers in,
Speaker 3: you're gonna love that story. You're gonna say, you know what,
Speaker 3: think about football players and they have to protect the
Speaker 3: front of their body with their eyes.
Speaker 2: Did you wear a protective cup?
Speaker 3: It did not.
Speaker 9: No, I don't know of anybody that did.
Speaker 3: I could barely stand to wear it in baseball because
Speaker 3: it was like, you know, you've always walked like a cowboy,
Speaker 3: no matter what. You got to kind of walk around
Speaker 3: that thing. You know you can't you can't, you can't
Speaker 3: just swing straight. You know that's not good.
Speaker 2: Before I let you go. The first of its kind,
Speaker 2: Madden NFL cast on Peacock during the Texans and the Chiefs.
Speaker 2: Were you a voice on the Madden game at some point?
Speaker 3: Yes, I was for like three years, and I know
Speaker 3: why John quit, Like it's it's the Madden is maddening.
Speaker 3: So let me tell you what they do. I'm not
Speaker 3: even kidding. They get you get a book. I wish
Speaker 3: I had a book around here or somewhere. I mean,
Speaker 3: this thing is like distick and you're there for three
Speaker 3: or four days and you just take the book. And
Speaker 3: I'm not kidding you. I'm sitting there and I'm reading
Speaker 3: this thing. It's like, all right, I'm on this chapter
Speaker 3: and it's like Peyton Manning just just threw his second
Speaker 3: interception of the game on that outcut Peyton Manning back
Speaker 3: to pass. Oh, he just threw his third interception the game.
Speaker 3: I got up to Peyton Manning just threw his seventeenth
Speaker 3: interception in the first half, and I said, I'm not
Speaker 3: kidding you. If anybody ever got to seventeen interceptions when
Speaker 3: I was doing it, I don't know if they threw
Speaker 3: it out of the game. I said, somebody shoot that, SOB,
Speaker 3: that ain't Peyton Manning out there. I mean, it's like
Speaker 3: you lose your mind after a little while doing this game,
Speaker 3: and nobody ever does it longer than like three years.
Speaker 9: That's it.
Speaker 2: They're out there.
Speaker 9: You go crazy.
Speaker 2: It'll be a Noah Eagle, Todd Blackledge. That'll be Saturday
Speaker 2: at one eastern, the first of its kind Madden NFL
Speaker 2: cast on Peacock. But Chris will be on the call
Speaker 2: with Mike Trico Melissa Stark. That'll be Bucks Cowboys Sunday night, eight,
Speaker 2: twenty eastern. My best of the family. Merry Christmas to you.
Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 3: Merry Christmas and keep reminding people you protect the front
Speaker 3: of your body with your eyes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you. That's Chris collins Worth. There.
Speaker 1: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Speaker 1: Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAPP.
Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to sharing this with you. Steven Wilson
Speaker 2: Junior currently on tour throughout the rest of the year
Speaker 2: and into twenty twenty five. He has a double album
Speaker 2: it's called Son of Dad, and he just released an
Speaker 2: acoustic version of stand By Me. You can stream that
Speaker 2: and you can buy it wherever you get your music.
Speaker 2: You can also find tickets and more information about Steven
Speaker 2: at Stephen Wilson Junior dot com. He came in. This
Speaker 2: was last week that we had him in on a Monday.
Speaker 2: He had just done a show in Boston. He was
Speaker 2: going to do a show Tuesday night in New York City.
Speaker 2: And I had been following him, kind of obsessing with
Speaker 2: him for a month six weeks, and I said would
Speaker 2: you come in? And he said yeah. So they stopped
Speaker 2: in on their way to New York and after the
Speaker 2: show on Monday, we taped it and he started out
Speaker 2: with a song It's called Father's Son. And here is
Speaker 2: Stephen Wilson Junior. Lad.
Speaker 14: He was named by my grandma. She got her from
Speaker 14: the bar that he passed it on to me like
Speaker 14: Granddaddy's right from raised me up. Next week Cone greded
Speaker 14: of the sign. I thought it like her hair.
Speaker 8: He became a.
Speaker 14: M I trying to be different, trying to go against
Speaker 14: the grain, didn't ignan different. Zioners in that are of
Speaker 14: the same.
Speaker 13: You want to change my dream? Got a dream? God? Damn?
Speaker 14: I my father's son. Air left town just to get
Speaker 14: out of his sharve. But he's sending me a twenty
Speaker 14: interest to get back on the serve. He thought up
Speaker 14: a good faint, but I didn't win.
Speaker 13: A bird gets the tree on grow very far from there.
Speaker 14: I sa, you wanna change? I've got a dream. I'm
Speaker 14: God my my father's son, my father's son, the Weders
Speaker 14: blue Jean, tricking it in his name.
Speaker 13: Like a bird arm.
Speaker 14: I used to hate being coaching, so I don't mind.
Speaker 8: Any save it bom.
Speaker 13: You want change?
Speaker 14: I mean, damn, my father's father's son.
Speaker 2: It's the album is Son of Dad. What are you
Speaker 2: running from? In that song? Why are you running?
Speaker 13: Uh?
Speaker 8: Like running from your dad?
Speaker 2: His name legacy?
Speaker 15: Well, I'm a Junie Dan. With that comes a big shadow.
Speaker 15: So I grew up in my dad's shadow. He was
Speaker 15: my best friend and my corner man, my champion, and
Speaker 15: it was a very comfortable shadow to live in. He
Speaker 15: had a really big personality and really everybody knew him
Speaker 15: and nobody knew me. I was just his boy, and
Speaker 15: I was really good with that, to be honest.
Speaker 8: I was a very quiet kid.
Speaker 15: And when he died, that shadow was gone and the
Speaker 15: light was all on me. So I had to kind
Speaker 15: of figure out who I was and all of that.
Speaker 15: So you know, I'm Steven Wilson Junior. The junior is
Speaker 15: very important, especially in the sport of boxing. My dad
Speaker 15: was a fighter. I was a fighter, and like junior
Speaker 15: is like you're an appendage of your leg of your
Speaker 15: father's legacy. You're carrying your father on your shoulders in
Speaker 15: the ring, out of the ring, and I hear him
Speaker 15: on my shoulders on stage, and you know, there's a
Speaker 15: bit of a running away from him. Was trying to
Speaker 15: figure out who I am. I wasn't trying to get
Speaker 15: away from him.
Speaker 2: I figure out yourself to go back.
Speaker 15: Exactly, and a bit of a prodigal son kind of
Speaker 15: thing going on there. But like losing him brought me
Speaker 15: back to help me find myself. And this whole record
Speaker 15: Son of Dad was an exploration process into figuring out
Speaker 15: who this guy is.
Speaker 2: But you talk about boxing, is there any comparison correlation
Speaker 2: of getting on stage to getting into boxing ring?
Speaker 8: Absolutely? Because I was very quiet.
Speaker 15: My dad threw me in a ring at age seven
Speaker 15: and had me fighting kids and then eventually I ended
Speaker 15: up fighting adults. And I think my dad didn't really
Speaker 15: know what to do with me because I was a
Speaker 15: lot different than him. I had his eyes and his
Speaker 15: name and bet other than that, I was like nerdy academic.
Speaker 15: But I think him teaching me in a box early
Speaker 15: was he was preparing me for the world, I think,
Speaker 15: because I think he knew I was going to be
Speaker 15: exposed to a lot of heat and the well, this.
Speaker 2: Is a business. You gotta fight exactly. I mean, you're
Speaker 2: you're on the undercard and a lot of these places
Speaker 2: you go.
Speaker 15: To, absolutely And and my dad was a showman, like
Speaker 15: I remember him going out before he would fight and say,
Speaker 15: I'm gonna put on a show for these people.
Speaker 8: My first stage was a boxing ring.
Speaker 15: It wasn't a stage at all, and that's where I
Speaker 15: learned to be in front of people as a shy kid.
Speaker 15: And once you fight a man, like once I fought
Speaker 15: in the Golden Gloves and all that stuff, and once
Speaker 15: you start fighting men, I like it, it's a totally
Speaker 15: different thing. Like it's like a pressure cooker turned up
Speaker 15: to eleven and playing in front of forty thousand people
Speaker 15: or twenty thousand, whatever that is.
Speaker 8: It's that's a huge thing.
Speaker 15: For a shy kid like me, But it ain't fighting
Speaker 15: another man in front of a bunch of people. So
Speaker 15: if if Fighting in the Golden Gloves was an eleven,
Speaker 15: that that show was maybe an eight, So I can
Speaker 15: easily like that. Oh I can handle on eleven what
Speaker 15: I can easily handle on eight. So my dad set
Speaker 15: the bar so high for me for what I could handle.
Speaker 9: You know.
Speaker 15: He literally told me, if you can fight another man
Speaker 15: for three rounds, you can do anything, like literally, there's
Speaker 15: very little on planet Earth that you can't.
Speaker 8: Do after that.
Speaker 15: And I think if he just had to prove it
Speaker 15: to me and allow me to prove it to myself,
Speaker 15: that I could do it.
Speaker 2: When you listen to the album, you can hear the
Speaker 2: love and admiration you have for your dad. And he
Speaker 2: passed away six years ago. He was fifty nine at
Speaker 2: the time. I want you to play one more song,
Speaker 2: and I think people are really going to get a
Speaker 2: grasp of what your father meant to you. But is
Speaker 2: that guitar going to hold up?
Speaker 15: It might or might not. It's held together by the
Speaker 15: bonds of masking type.
Speaker 2: How would you describe that? You know this is on
Speaker 2: TV but also on radio, it's you know, Willie Nelson
Speaker 2: has trigger Yes, sir, Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 15: This is Elson's my hero as a guitar player, singer
Speaker 15: and songwriter.
Speaker 8: He's he's he's the goat.
Speaker 15: So yeah, I learned how to play a lot of
Speaker 15: guitar from him because he plays classical nylons, or we
Speaker 15: call him gut strings with a pick, which is not
Speaker 15: very common. An he plays through an amp, not very
Speaker 15: common either. I basically steal everything from Willie.
Speaker 2: And it's not alone.
Speaker 15: Yeah, in this guitar, you know, because I play with
Speaker 15: a pick, it's just it destroys it. These are meant
Speaker 15: to be played with your fingers and they're designed to
Speaker 15: be to be played like that, not like this.
Speaker 8: So this just shovels away and there's.
Speaker 15: Like piles of sawdust on the floor after each show,
Speaker 15: and as I literally leave my guitar behind every show,
Speaker 15: like there's like pieces of its.
Speaker 8: DNA on stage every night, and.
Speaker 15: I personally I like that better than preserving this guitar
Speaker 15: forever or whatever it is.
Speaker 8: I'd rather.
Speaker 15: I think guitars are meant to be played, not hung
Speaker 15: up on a wall and treasured. And I think this
Speaker 15: is what this guitar is meant to be meant to
Speaker 15: be doing, is just chadding itself on stage every night.
Speaker 8: And this is what it looks.
Speaker 2: Like after once again. The double album is Son of Dad,
Speaker 2: and you just released an acoustic cover stand by Me
Speaker 2: Benny King came out in the early sixties. I believe
Speaker 2: that cover song and you can find tickets more information
Speaker 2: about Steven at Stephen Wilson Junior dot com. That's pH
Speaker 2: Steven with a pH Wilson like the volleyball, like the volleyball, yes, and.
Speaker 15: Junior like Dale Earnhart. Well, that's what that's another helpful.
Speaker 2: And what's interesting about when my brother sent me a
Speaker 2: link to stand by Me and then another song called
Speaker 2: I'm a Song. He said, this I'm a Song might
Speaker 2: be the best song I've ever heard, and so I
Speaker 2: sent it to Seton immediately and Seton goes, I've played
Speaker 2: it five times in a row now, and then he
Speaker 2: started sending it to people. I've been sending it to people,
Speaker 2: and then when I realized you were in Massachusetts coming
Speaker 2: through to New York, and I thought it'd be great
Speaker 2: to have you come in so.
Speaker 8: Well, thank you so much, Dan.
Speaker 15: Yeah, it really means a lot for I mean, the
Speaker 15: kind words that you all said on the air, I
Speaker 15: was really.
Speaker 2: Just well, I thought I'd be doing a disservice to
Speaker 2: my audience if I didn't let them hear what I heard,
Speaker 2: because you know, it's it's and the I'm a song
Speaker 2: is a powerful, powerful song, and anybody who's lost their dad,
Speaker 2: you you can't help hear this and then stop on
Speaker 2: hearing it. I gets just there and I love the songwriting.
Speaker 2: That's what stood out.
Speaker 15: It was my dad's favorite song of mine. Here he
Speaker 15: saw me play at a Bluebird Cafe in Nashville, Yeah
Speaker 15: about in Nashville, which is a little songwriting cafe, and
Speaker 15: he recorded it on his iPhone because there was no
Speaker 15: recording of it, didn't have a demo of it to
Speaker 15: send him, and so he would listen to it over
Speaker 15: and over on his phone from a video recording that
Speaker 15: he got at Bluebird Cafe. And one night we were
Speaker 15: watching fights and we just got back from a tractor
Speaker 15: pool and for some reason, this was just a few
Speaker 15: months before he died. We didn't know he was going
Speaker 15: to die, neither did he.
Speaker 2: And you played it at his funeral.
Speaker 15: I did, and because in that conversation while we were
Speaker 15: watching fights, he just stopped and said, hey, you know
Speaker 15: that song you played at Bluebeard Cafe, I'm a song
Speaker 15: because he remembered the title and everything. And I was like, yeah,
Speaker 15: He's like, that's that's my favorite song, Stephen. And I
Speaker 15: was like, oh, cool, well, thank you, you're a bias
Speaker 15: and he's like, no, I need, I need you to
Speaker 15: listen to me. It's my favorite song ever. And you know,
Speaker 15: I just had to like kind of choke back some
Speaker 15: tears and get that left hook, you know, changed the
Speaker 15: change the subject real quick, and uh, and that really
Speaker 15: stuck with me. So when he died, I only knew
Speaker 15: that was the only way I could think to honor
Speaker 15: him was to play that song at his funeral. And uh,
Speaker 15: it was one of the hardest things I've ever done,
Speaker 15: and but I did it, and I did it for
Speaker 15: him and I didn't play that song for years.
Speaker 8: I couldn't after that day.
Speaker 15: And when I released Son of Dad, the album release
Speaker 15: being the operative word, this one came back. And I
Speaker 15: feel like this song is my dad because he was
Speaker 15: a song he really was. And this is Caledima song.
Speaker 14: M I'm a show in San Antonio, middle of the rodeo,
Speaker 14: Daddy saying that she used to hold when you walk
Speaker 14: back to the car, I'm a sound of the county fair,
Speaker 14: Ferris Wheel kisses her up and there a Sephard Brandy.
Speaker 14: When your soul is bare and you need to share
Speaker 14: your how my words, it'll hit you, It'll get you
Speaker 14: where you're going. So you never go there on I'm
Speaker 14: a man, Lady, you go to the memory that you
Speaker 14: can't say that comes on, I'm a part of you.
Speaker 14: You listen to riding in the radio along I'm a song.
Speaker 13: Whoa, I'm a song, WHOA boy.
Speaker 14: I was there the day you learn to drive, the
Speaker 14: first time that you got her, even helped your realize
Speaker 14: she wasn't right for you, fall down, I pick it
Speaker 14: up again, help the boy becoming man when your best
Speaker 14: friend died, helped you cry and finally turned in.
Speaker 13: I'm the word heard it or git you it don't
Speaker 13: get you here?
Speaker 8: You're going swinging?
Speaker 13: Ever go there on.
Speaker 14: I'm a man lady blue to the memory that you
Speaker 14: can't see when that comes on. I'm a party and
Speaker 14: listen to riding and already on and I'm a song,
Speaker 14: whoa the world, I'm a song World, I'm a song.
Speaker 14: I'm a part of you. She listened to riding in
Speaker 14: the radio man, hold on, I'm a heard it a
Speaker 14: wait you it will get you here going so you
Speaker 14: never go there on. I'm a man lady glued to
Speaker 14: the minery that you can't say when it comes on,
Speaker 14: I'm a part of you that you listen to riding
Speaker 14: in the radio on, I'm a song, Whoa, Whoa, I'm
Speaker 14: a song, Whoa Whoa, I'm a song Amoso homoson.
Speaker 15: Homosoon heavy, heavy, it can be at times. It's a
Speaker 15: hard one sometimes for me to get through.
Speaker 2: You cry during performances.
Speaker 15: Yeah, yeah, try not to. Everybody else cries, so I
Speaker 15: get to as well. I really I don't try to.
Speaker 15: I don't want to, but sometimes it just happens and
Speaker 15: I'm done fighting it.
Speaker 2: The album, it's a double album. It's called Son of Dad,
Speaker 2: it's Stephen Wilson Junior. He's on tour and you can
Speaker 2: find more information also tickets Stephen at Steven with a
Speaker 2: pH Wilson Junior dot com.
Speaker 8: Yes, sir, thank you Dan.
Speaker 2: Thank you for coming in, and good luck on the roads.
Speaker 2: So when you get big, you go to the Grammys
Speaker 2: and all of that, they'll be afraid to shout us out.
Speaker 2: You know, I mean just a simple little you know,
Speaker 2: I hold this up. I want to thank the Dan
Speaker 2: Patrick Show.
Speaker 8: Yes, sir, I will.
Speaker 2: I want to thank my dad and the Dan Patrick Show.
Speaker 2: You can do it in that order, and the Blue
Speaker 2: Bird if you want to.
Speaker 15: Yeah, I think my dad and my publicist Dan Patrick
Speaker 15: for yes.
Speaker 2: I mean, is that asking too much?
Speaker 8: I don't think so, thank you Dan. Thank you for
Speaker 8: the kindest words. Hey in your time.
Speaker 2: Once again it hit me and I wanted to share
Speaker 2: so uh. This audience is loyal and that's what I
Speaker 2: love about it. I want them to know and share
Speaker 2: what I'm sharing with. My brother was seting and down
Speaker 2: with them. So before I start to cry, get out
Speaker 2: of here, and good luck on the road and thank
Speaker 2: you again.
Speaker 8: Me and you both, Thank you, Dan, God bless you.