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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your home for

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Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host,

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Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wired Hunt Podcast. I'm your host,

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Speaker 1: Mark Kenyan, and this is episode number three hundred and six,

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Speaker 1: and today in the show, we're back for another one

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Speaker 1: of our fresh radio episodes in which we're getting the

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Speaker 1: latest intel from across the country on what deer doing

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Speaker 1: right now, how current conditions are impacting it, and the

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Speaker 1: tactics that are working right now. All right, welcome to

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Speaker 1: the Wired to Hunt podcast, brought to you by on X.

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Speaker 1: We're here for this week's rout fresh radio episode in

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Speaker 1: which we are going to dive into the latest and

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Speaker 1: greatest intel from across the country in regards to what

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Speaker 1: white tailed deer doing right now. And Spencer interviewed a

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Speaker 1: handful of guys all across the country. We're gonna get

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Speaker 1: those updates shortly, but for now, we've got to do

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Speaker 1: our quick intro check in session. Uh, Spencer, what's on

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Speaker 1: your mind? Do we have some good news coming up?

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Speaker 1: Are people excited? Are people kind of saying, hey, it's slow,

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Speaker 1: there's nothing going. What's the general vibe? People are optimistic?

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Speaker 1: Because we are coming off of a cold front and

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Speaker 1: now we're going into another cold front. Basically, wherever you

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Speaker 1: haunt in the country, you either caught a cold from

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Speaker 1: last weekend or you're getting one this weekend. And that

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Speaker 1: gets hunters pretty excited. Yeah, it's uh, it generally leads

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Speaker 1: to some good stuff. So, yeah, I'm actually going to

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Speaker 1: be doing a mentor hunt this coming weekend, taking out

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Speaker 1: part of that Field to four program by q d

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Speaker 1: m A. And so we're taking eight new hunters into

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Speaker 1: the field for the first time, and I think the

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Speaker 1: conditions will be perfect for so I'm excited for that too. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: such cool program. Now, we if a lot of these

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Speaker 1: fronts that you get in October, you tend to see

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Speaker 1: some precipitation as well, and you kind of give your

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Speaker 1: thoughts annually on this market as far as what rain

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Speaker 1: will do to deer movement. But can you tell us

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Speaker 1: about that again? How how you think rain this time

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Speaker 1: of year, anytime and fall can suppress or help deer movement. Yes,

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Speaker 1: So what I've always seen in Michigan is that we

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Speaker 1: get a disproportionately good amount of movement during rain events

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Speaker 1: by mature bucks. Um. I think that typically the typical

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Speaker 1: thing you see is if it's a really really hard downpourt,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna slow movement. But as soon as the ease

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Speaker 1: pour out. So lots of times it can be a

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Speaker 1: good thing. If I see rain in the forecast, I

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Speaker 1: at least immediately after it stops. Um. Take for example,

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Speaker 1: my first hunt in Michigan. I told you about it. Well,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if we did talk about because we

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Speaker 1: talked about the night before my first hunt. But the

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Speaker 1: night of my very first hunt, it was pouring rain, wendy,

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Speaker 1: lots and lots of rain, and started seeing deer trolling

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Speaker 1: out as that rain just started slow a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Buck dough dough dough dough, buck dough, dough dough, And

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Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, really nice, big three and

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Speaker 1: still raining. And I saw maybe four or five different

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Speaker 1: bucks that night, ten to fifteen does. Um. So they

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Speaker 1: were definitely moving in that And you know, I don't

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Speaker 1: become like a safe period for older bucks to move

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Speaker 1: Another thing to consider if you do shoot a deer

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Speaker 1: In many cases, that dog will have a better chance

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Speaker 1: be a dicey blood trail, just immediately call your buddy

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Speaker 1: dynamite way to recover your deer. Even if the blood

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Speaker 1: there is no research that shows that dear move like

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Speaker 1: better during rain or better right after rain. But with

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Speaker 1: that said, there are a ton of hunters. Hused, what

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Speaker 1: a horrible pun. By the way, Yeah, you're gonna be

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Speaker 1: And I think back to an episode last year on

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Speaker 1: that was exactly the scenario for him. It was raining

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Speaker 1: Get some rain gear, get a little tree umbrella, stick

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Speaker 1: a couple of young bucks sparring off in the distance.

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Speaker 1: And then last night we had a guest hunter in

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Speaker 1: Cooperative Extension Bachealists from UC Berkeley who has been doing

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Speaker 1: some very interesting research UM related to land use and

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Speaker 1: so stuff that ties in really nicely to what we're doing.

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Speaker 1: And he came out and hunted for a couple of

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Speaker 1: is uh, it's been pretty good, good to decent movement.

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Speaker 1: I'd say like five to six on a ten um.

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Speaker 1: We're seeing deer having fun, but not a ton of

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Speaker 1: mature buck activity. Well, besides your Michigan report, we also

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Speaker 1: have a report in Indiana from Brad Beaver at Lone

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Speaker 1: First Light in Virginia. Taylor, on a scale of one

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Speaker 1: ben Leyley in Virginia overall, I'd say buck activities about

430
00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:37,520
Speaker 1: three to four. And I'd say that because, um, really

431
00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:41,119
Speaker 1: not seeing a ton of daylight movement right now. Um,

432
00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:44,760
Speaker 1: you know, I am seeing some some mature dear, uh

433
00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:48,159
Speaker 1: starting to you know, make sign a lot of scrape

434
00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:53,919
Speaker 1: activity right now, especially around the primary food sources. But um,

435
00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,919
Speaker 1: you know, they're really not doing a ton of daylight movement.

436
00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,879
Speaker 1: It's all mostly night pictures that we have on this

437
00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,959
Speaker 1: craps right now. So, um, you know, as far as

438
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,200
Speaker 1: hunting goes, I definitely give it a three to four

439
00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:09,199
Speaker 1: on on buck activity. You touch on food sources there now,

440
00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:12,479
Speaker 1: most hunters this time of year focused on acorns and

441
00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,320
Speaker 1: crowd fields. Things like that. But you do a lot

442
00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:17,679
Speaker 1: of urban hunting, so I assume that's different. What are

443
00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:19,960
Speaker 1: the food sources that you're looking for this time of year.

444
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:23,960
Speaker 1: I mean every food source that I hunted is properly specific,

445
00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:28,400
Speaker 1: but food is key. So on properties that I have

446
00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:33,280
Speaker 1: where they have some acorns, especially white oaks, I'm keying

447
00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:38,320
Speaker 1: on those, especially on years like right now, where I

448
00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:40,920
Speaker 1: don't have a ton of mass on the ground. The

449
00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:44,200
Speaker 1: few white oaks that are dropping are pretty much guaranteed

450
00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:48,480
Speaker 1: spots to have dear activity. If there's a mature buck

451
00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,760
Speaker 1: in that area, um, he will be on that food

452
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:55,000
Speaker 1: source system, matter of catching him before light ends or

453
00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:58,320
Speaker 1: catching him there in the morning. Outside of that, you know,

454
00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:02,000
Speaker 1: I have a unique situation here where on the suburbs,

455
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 1: the food source could literally be the landscaping on that property, um, shrubs, brows,

456
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:12,639
Speaker 1: I mean, whatever the deer turning to um that that's

457
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 1: where you're gonna find them. But I really try to

458
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 1: key in on the white oaks this time of year, uh,

459
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:20,520
Speaker 1: as long as there aren't a ton of them on

460
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Speaker 1: the ground, and and here in in suburbia, we don't

461
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 1: have a ton of options for white eggs. So where

462
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,000
Speaker 1: you find them and you can hunt them, You're gonna

463
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,480
Speaker 1: find deer guaranteed. Do you see the same kind of

464
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 1: lull this time of year where bucks are harder to

465
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 1: spawn daylight as hunters across the country that are hunting

466
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:41,120
Speaker 1: farms and more rural properties, I don't really see much

467
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:44,480
Speaker 1: of a low. UH. The loll that that I see

468
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:48,399
Speaker 1: is the direct correlation to pressure. So if you have

469
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,239
Speaker 1: an area, or if I have an area that has

470
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:54,440
Speaker 1: a mature buck in it, or any buck for that matter,

471
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:58,240
Speaker 1: just deer in general, and we start hunting, or I'm

472
00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,320
Speaker 1: in there hunting at a good bit putting pressure on it,

473
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:03,920
Speaker 1: there's deer will react to that pressure and they'll start

474
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 1: to move more in the UH outside of daylight hours.

475
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:12,720
Speaker 1: But on properties where I might not get around the

476
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:16,480
Speaker 1: hunting them for a while or there's no pressure on them,

477
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:18,720
Speaker 1: I very rarely see much of a lull. I actually

478
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:22,399
Speaker 1: see pretty much of a linear increase in more and

479
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:26,119
Speaker 1: more daylight activity based on the closure we get to

480
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:27,960
Speaker 1: the end of the month. Now you've run a lot

481
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Speaker 1: of trail cameras. How does your trail camp setups change

482
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:35,119
Speaker 1: from early October until they run? As soon as I

483
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:39,919
Speaker 1: start seeing scraping activity or deer that are making sign

484
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 1: I try to find those primary scrapes or uh that

485
00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:48,399
Speaker 1: big communal scrape that's close to bedding or you know

486
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 1: normally this time of year it's right around the primary

487
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 1: food source. That's the best place in my opinion, to

488
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 1: get activity or get get a good uh feeling of

489
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,119
Speaker 1: every buck in that area, because they're all going to

490
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:03,919
Speaker 1: come through there, and it's a great way to kind

491
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 1: of get an inventory of what's in the area. And and

492
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,640
Speaker 1: and based on the timing of this picture, you can

493
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,440
Speaker 1: figure out kind of how the timing and frequency, you

494
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 1: can figure out how how close that deer is living.

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00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,240
Speaker 1: So you know, if you have a deer coming by

496
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 1: once a week at two o'clock in the morning, odds

497
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 1: are that bucks probably not living too close by. UM. Again,

498
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 1: in my my situation that your tend to travel pretty

499
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 1: far because they have to to find food sources and

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00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 1: also have cover, and you know they live in tiny

501
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 1: wrote pockets where um where human human interference doesn't get

502
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 1: to him. But if you have a deer coming by

503
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,159
Speaker 1: rate a daylight or his on a scrape, you know

504
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,200
Speaker 1: in the morning or in the evening pretty early before

505
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,920
Speaker 1: shooting light ends, you know that deer is bettered close

506
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 1: by and have much better chance of harsen that animal.

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00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,640
Speaker 1: You're probably more likely to be hunting in rain there

508
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:53,879
Speaker 1: in Virginia than most hunters I talked to you. So

509
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:58,399
Speaker 1: how do you notice that change or suppressed deer movement? Uh?

510
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 1: You know, I find that the rain doesn't really affect

511
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 1: the dear too badly. If it's blown sideways and thirty

512
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 1: miles an hour, then you know, if I don't want

513
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:09,680
Speaker 1: to be in the tree, odds are that you aren't

514
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 1: gonna be up and moving. But on those light, misty rains,

515
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:18,239
Speaker 1: I find that the deer are moving a ton. Um.

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00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:21,159
Speaker 1: I really love like a light, light rain and a

517
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,920
Speaker 1: nice high pressure system with a uh, you know, a

518
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 1: relatively low and consistent wind. I find a really good

519
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:34,680
Speaker 1: movement on days like that, foggy days too. Um, I

520
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 1: see a ton of good movement going forward. Then in

521
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:39,199
Speaker 1: the six week or so, what do you think that

522
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,239
Speaker 1: bug activity is going to be on a scale of

523
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 1: one to ten in Virginia. I think in Virginia we're

524
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:46,440
Speaker 1: still going to be in that three to four range.

525
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,920
Speaker 1: I mean, if you if you have a really good

526
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 1: primary scrape on that primary food source. I get in

527
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 1: there and hunt, and I think you have a really

528
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 1: good chance of of shooting your target animal. But outside

529
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,439
Speaker 1: of that, I don't see any reason to push it.

530
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:02,920
Speaker 1: I think the moon is pretty bad and our bare

531
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 1: mutch pressure is really low for us right now. So

532
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,120
Speaker 1: here in Virginia, I'm I'm holding off. I'm hunting secondary

533
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 1: areas or you know, maybe taking a couple of flyers

534
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 1: on some betting areas, But for the most part, I'm

535
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 1: I'm waiting until the week after this to really start

536
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 1: hand right down. All right, Taylor, great intel, and thanks

537
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 1: for joining me. Thanks for having me all in joining

538
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,400
Speaker 1: us on the line. Last is Josh Sparks from Iowa

539
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,640
Speaker 1: with Midwest white tails. Now, Josh in Iowa, what would

540
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,639
Speaker 1: you say the buck activity has been lately on the

541
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 1: scale of one to tend uh scale? Woman Send, I

542
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,680
Speaker 1: would say a buck activity in general has been a

543
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 1: six um just saying that because of the recent cold

544
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 1: front that we had to go through, and it was

545
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 1: definitely a spike, uh, you know, compared to what you'd

546
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 1: expect for that first week in October. What food sources

547
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 1: are you focused on right now? In Iowa? A state

548
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 1: that has a lot of big egg but also some

549
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 1: pretty big acorn crops. Um. So the piece of public

550
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 1: land that I actually had a really good counter on

551
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 1: this past week. UM, I was focused on beans just

552
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,919
Speaker 1: because it was a pretty safe play as far as

553
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,160
Speaker 1: doing a hanging hunt. You know, first week of October

554
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 1: and there's a big acorn flat right next to it.

555
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,880
Speaker 1: With the north wind, we were able to sneak in there,

556
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 1: sneak out. But so really I could say it is

557
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 1: focus on acorns and egg. When we have another approaching

558
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 1: cold front coming like this weekend, what is your strategy

559
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 1: as a public land hunter? Um, you know, the public

560
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 1: land hunter, I'm not really holding anything back just because

561
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 1: everything that I'm going to try, anybody else is welcome

562
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 1: to do that themselves. So we're gonna go into that

563
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 1: same spot with the north wind, I think bucks will

564
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 1: be up on their feet again. Ideally with the cold

565
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 1: front there's a big thunderstorm day on Thursday and then

566
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 1: on Friday. The reason why I'm setting up on that

567
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 1: bean field is because of all the scrapes that are

568
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 1: popped up on the edge that we're hoping to catch

569
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 1: a buck coming to freshen up those scrapes, and as

570
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 1: we're getting further into mid October, hopefully I can do

571
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 1: a little bit of calling and maybe bring him in

572
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 1: the boat ranges. Time you just touch on scrapes there

573
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 1: a little bit. But how much do signmaking factor into

574
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 1: your decision making this time of year and how does

575
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 1: that change once we get closer to the rug um

576
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 1: this time of year, It's definitely going to be a

577
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 1: lot more influential just because that's what I'm hunting. I'm

578
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 1: not really breaking into September as much. Um. I'm really

579
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 1: all about access and whether or not I can get

580
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 1: in and out clean. So as far as signed, you know,

581
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 1: scrapes are really the only thing I'm paying attention to

582
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 1: as of right now. As a public land hunter, when

583
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 1: do you notice an increase in hunting pressure when you

584
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 1: have an obvious cold front coming through like this weekend?

585
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 1: Do you expect to see more guys in the woods.

586
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 1: I definitely set to see more guys in the woods

587
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 1: just because of the weekends. Uh, That's one thing that

588
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 1: I would definitely say. In Iowa specifically, I noticed the

589
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 1: pressure increases exponentially with the rut, and that's the time

590
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 1: of year that we're getting a lot out of state hunters,

591
00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 1: guys taking their vacations. So really I think October early

592
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 1: mid amily is an underlooked time of year to go

593
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 1: out and hunt on public land. Personally, with harvest taking

594
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 1: place in Iowa anywhere from now until mid November, how

595
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 1: does that normally change things for you in the combines

596
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 1: at the fields? Uh So, for in Iowa this year,

597
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 1: at least where I'm hunting, harvest is gonna be a

598
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 1: little bit later than normal field They're still pretty wet.

599
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 1: But as of right now, I'm using that to my

600
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 1: advantage of hunting along those you know, agricultural fields. Once

601
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 1: those crops come out, that will cause me to go

602
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 1: deeper into the September um just because I think that's

603
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 1: where they are going to start the transition for cover,

604
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 1: especially bucks. And as we get further into the year,

605
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 1: you know, I'm more or less focusing on where the

606
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 1: doors are gonna be opposed to where I think the

607
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 1: bucks are, So it really just kind of changes where

608
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 1: I'm focused going forward. Then in the sext week or so,

609
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 1: what do you think that buck activity is going to

610
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 1: be on a scale of one to tend in Iowa

611
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 1: coming Friday at least, so we're gonna be I would

612
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 1: say anywhere from the six and seven, just because of

613
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 1: that cold trying Friday. We're gonna rain Alliday Thursday, and

614
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 1: then we've got about a twenty five three temperature drops.

615
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 1: It's gonna be down the low thirties and that's I

616
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 1: think that's gonna shock the deer in the activity and

617
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 1: hopefully them mature box just like it did this past week.

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00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 1: All right, Josh, Well, good luck to you and everyone

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00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 1: else at Midwest White Tails. Thanks for joining me, appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: And that concludes this week's episode of rut Fresh Radio.

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Speaker 1: Thanks to Brad, Caleb, Taylor, and Josh for joining me,

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Speaker 1: and thank you guys for listening. I hope this October

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00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 1: coldfront finds you well and I'm excited to take advantage

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00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 1: of it, like I hope many of you are. But

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Speaker 1: until we talk next week, stay wired to Hunt