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Speaker 2: this show, the one and only Fitzy Man. Jason Fitz,

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Speaker 2: howai you, JF How you doing man?

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Speaker 1: My brother? I am good. I feel it. You know.

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Speaker 4: The Fellas starts at five am on Saturday, so extra

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Speaker 4: hour makes a big difference.

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Speaker 1: Six am feels like child's play. Let's go.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you right there. What's going on with you?

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Speaker 2: What's new in your life now?

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Speaker 1: Just living the dream man?

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Speaker 4: Just getting ready for a football season right like it's

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Speaker 4: been a summer of hibernation, I think for everybody, and

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Speaker 4: you know, for my my other job at yat who

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Speaker 4: Sports for the summer, they let me do a little

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Speaker 4: bit of Olympic fun, but mostly it's just been kind

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Speaker 1: So I'm ready, like yesterday was just injected yesterday.

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Speaker 4: In my veins because we're now at that spot where

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Speaker 4: every single weekend this is the most important thing.

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Speaker 1: Like I'm pretty not smart.

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Speaker 4: So now I don't have to think for the next

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Speaker 4: several months on Saturdays, on Sundays, on Mondays, I don't

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Speaker 4: have to worry what's on TV?

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Speaker 1: What am I gonna watch today? Like the answer is there.

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Speaker 4: It felt good yesterday to see meaningful college football games

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Speaker 4: and to see absolute chaos and to lose money, like

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Speaker 4: all of these things felt right yesterday. It felt like

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Speaker 4: a normal weekend in the world.

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Speaker 2: My friend, let me run this by because this is

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Speaker 2: all I hear on talk shows. I go to the pub,

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Speaker 2: I hear guys talking about that. My buddies said, carre

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Speaker 2: wait for football, OK, wait for I don't hear any

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Speaker 2: other sport where people are so waiting and anticipation for,

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Speaker 2: Like they don't do it for baseball. Maybe you know

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Speaker 2: pitches and catches report obviously in March they go a

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Speaker 2: little crazy there. NBA they don't do it, NHL, never, MLS.

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Speaker 2: I don't think so you know, but football why I

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Speaker 2: don't get it. I mean, it never used to be

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Speaker 2: that way, So I can't wait. I can't football is ye,

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Speaker 2: I can't wait. I mean, and then when the preseason comes,

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Speaker 2: I never watched it. I can't stand preseason. Tell me

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Speaker 2: why I love it. I love little sports, but I

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Speaker 2: don't go above and beyond where they go nuts over football.

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Speaker 3: Tell me.

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Speaker 4: See, this is a simple answer, and it's because, you know,

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Speaker 4: like not having it for so long makes the heart

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Speaker 4: grow found it right, like whatever that phrase is.

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing.

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Speaker 4: If you are a let's say Nebraska or you're a

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Speaker 4: end of November. So you've had to wait from the

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Speaker 4: We're not talking about Major League Baseball. It feels like

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Speaker 4: the wrap around just runs faster because you go straight

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Speaker 4: from September to you know, pitchers of reporting when it's

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Speaker 4: still cold in March, right, Like, we've waited so long

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Speaker 4: the NHL. I'm a big hockey guy, and while you

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Speaker 4: wait the NHL, you're waiting what three months, the NBA,

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Speaker 4: you're waiting two or three months. Half the time between

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Speaker 4: meaningful game for college football. In the NFL, the wait

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Speaker 4: is so long. Everybody knows. I'm a die hard Raiders fan.

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Speaker 4: thinking about what's gonna happen. That no other sport is

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Speaker 1: Play games for as long.

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Speaker 4: So you know, yeah, we're obsessed with the draft and

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Speaker 4: Tennessee Volunteers fan, the rush you get from watching the

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Speaker 1: You haven't seen that in so long.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the key is less is more. Baseball

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Speaker 2: You know, college football maybe fourteen games, whatever it may

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Speaker 2: part of it, you know, fantasy football, but you know

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Speaker 2: may be. You're right, less is more, and the gambling aspect,

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Speaker 2: that's the key. I think the demos. I mean a

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Speaker 2: I'll go to a football game, I'll sit in the

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Speaker 2: I live in the Cincinni market, so I'll watch the

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Speaker 2: Bengals play, but they're rooting for the team that the

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Speaker 1: Why.

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Speaker 2: I once asked them, Well, I got that player in

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Speaker 2: my fantasy league, all right, So it's a big deal

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Speaker 2: and you get to know the players a lot better.

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Speaker 2: If baseball can hook up with something like that, they

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Speaker 2: may be better off. But again, I think the demos

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Speaker 2: People don't care anymore.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well you're right about boxing particularly, which is interesting

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Speaker 1: It is interesting to me because I'll go back to.

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Speaker 4: Look, when I was a kid, I was a massive

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Speaker 1: You're like Okay, I can live with that.

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Speaker 4: Now sometimes it is Frankly, it's harder for me to

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Speaker 4: with him way more. The guys are more accessible and

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Speaker 4: got to pull back from all of this and just

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Speaker 4: you have to force people to realize that they need

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Speaker 1: Day, I don't know that you can do that.

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Speaker 3: You're exactly right.

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Speaker 2: And let's go back to yesterday, because I know you

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Speaker 2: Georgia Tech and Ireland and the way it ended. Let's

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Speaker 2: take a listen how that game ended. If we can,

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Speaker 2: it's go to Ireland, go to Dublin. Can we do that? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we got, courtesy to Georgia Tech Radio Network, that was

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Speaker 2: Aiden Burr with a forty four yar field goal to

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Speaker 2: And the one thing that bothers me more than anything else,

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Speaker 2: And maybe I'm just too picky on this, they say

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Speaker 2: it was an upset. Look, they say Florida State was

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Speaker 2: you know, they claim it's an upset. It was a

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Speaker 2: great win. It was a great game. Now, last year

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Speaker 2: when No. Jer Dame went to Dublin, you know they rolled,

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Speaker 3: You know, a bitch game was really a nail bier.

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Speaker 2: And again I say, the only teams that really should

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Speaker 3: But they had a hell of a crowd.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean look, I like, I found myself being

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Speaker 1: I don't like the thought of a team losing a

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Speaker 4: I don't like the thought of a team trying to

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Speaker 1: I hate everything about it. But then yesterday I sat there,

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Speaker 4: I think part of it was because it's week zero,

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Speaker 4: So you don't know if your team stinks yet, you

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Speaker 1: It's just fun to see it.

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Speaker 4: So I understand why people want to find that as

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Speaker 4: a reason to go to Dublin.

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Speaker 1: Great city.

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Speaker 4: I've been there a bunch in my life, and you know,

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Speaker 4: it's a great place to go hang out and party

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Speaker 4: and watch your favorite football team.

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Speaker 1: I see all of that. I'm with you, though, there

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Speaker 1: are certain things that are simple.

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Speaker 4: Notre Dame having a game in Dublin every year seems

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Speaker 4: really simple, or every five years, whatever it is.

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Speaker 1: You know, if you're in the spot.

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Speaker 4: But as I think, rees Davis said yesterday one hundred

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Speaker 4: and eighty million euros were brought into the city around

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Speaker 4: this game. That's just how much money was coming in

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Speaker 1: So at the root of it all, they're gonna do

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Speaker 1: whatever works.

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Speaker 4: And if you put big fan bases over there constantly,

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Speaker 4: follow the money, follow the reasoning behind it.

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Speaker 1: I guess no.

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Speaker 3: Doubt about that.

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Speaker 2: Look Week zero, okay, first game, and here's the question

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Speaker 2: don't know what it is.

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Speaker 4: And for anyone that says it devalues the regular season,

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Speaker 1: And I mean not for nothing.

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Speaker 4: If we want to sit here and talk about the

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Speaker 4: with you. I love everything about the change. It just

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Speaker 4: He's not because the real answer is all he has

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Speaker 3: You know what's gonna do. It's gonna save coaches jobs.

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Speaker 2: It really will, because in years past a coach would

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Speaker 3: Very embarrassing to fire a coach if he makes a

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Speaker 2: Now, if you make the postseason, make the tournament, you're

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Speaker 3: So it's a safety valve, it really is.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, think about the NFL comp like, how often

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Speaker 4: long term if you're a school like Penn State that's

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Speaker 4: But I do think that's a new reality and by

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Speaker 2: Fitz right now. And let's talk about reps in practice

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Speaker 4: the thing that I think we have to remember as

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Speaker 4: a society is that more is accomplished in a practice

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Speaker 4: then will ever be accomplished in a preseason game. And

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Speaker 4: joint practice is particularly when teams do, those give people

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Speaker 4: far more opportunity to actually see what they're looking up

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Speaker 4: for and jiving together. This is the thing that to me,

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Speaker 4: like I do think reps matter, they just don't matter

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Speaker 4: in preseason games. Like I'll go back to my music days,

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Speaker 4: right when we would finally get some time off, you know,

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Speaker 4: when we were touring three hundred days a year with

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Speaker 4: the band. When we would come into rehearsals at the

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Speaker 4: beginning of the year, everybody was different.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 1: Some people wanted to get away from it completely.

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Speaker 4: I was one that just felt like if I didn't

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Speaker 4: play at all for a month, I was probably going

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Speaker 4: to be rusty when we came back. And so those

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Speaker 4: first couple of rehearsals, even though you've been playing together

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Speaker 4: for years, things just weren't very tight. Like the band

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Speaker 4: wasn't very good. We had to work through all of

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Speaker 4: that because he took a little time off. I think

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Speaker 4: there's something to practice, but there's nothing to a preseason game.

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Speaker 4: Preseason games are wildly meaningless in every possible boy, the

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Speaker 4: vanilla defenses that are played, the guys that are playing

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Speaker 4: in which you don't want in a preseason game. Frankly,

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Speaker 4: you don't want some kids that's fighting for his life

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Speaker 4: trying to make a roster because one thing you talk

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Speaker 4: to anybody that played the game, they'll tell you when

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Speaker 4: you were trying to fight for a roster, one of

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Speaker 4: the things they tell you you gotta pop on tape.

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Speaker 4: You gotta show up every day on tape. You got

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Speaker 4: to make people say wow when they review, when they

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Speaker 4: review the game footage. You don't want that guy that's

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Speaker 4: a you know, fringe roster guy showing up on tape

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Speaker 4: because he absolutely murders somebody's quarterback, right Like, that's just

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Speaker 4: not effective for anybody in any way. So I don't

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Speaker 4: think preseason needs to exist. I think joint practices need

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Speaker 4: to exist. If I ran in the NFL, frankly, I

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Speaker 4: would start televising joint practices. I would stop televising preseason games.

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Speaker 4: But owners never want to lose those home home tickets

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Speaker 4: they sell.

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Speaker 3: I get that, but well, I take a charge.

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Speaker 2: Way if take a charge for those joint practices, they

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Speaker 2: would if they could charge or sell tickets for it,

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Speaker 2: they would, sure.

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Speaker 4: I mean, And I just don't think anybody that thinks

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Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers is going to suddenly have a worse season

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Speaker 4: because he didn't play a preseason game. I think they've

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Speaker 4: lost their minds. Even if it takes the first quarter

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Speaker 4: of a season to get to to get a little

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Speaker 4: of the rust off in that situation, that's worth it

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Speaker 4: to mitigate the risk of playing in a meaningless preseason game.

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Speaker 2: And a funny thing is go about to Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 2: for a second Last year he played two series in

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Speaker 2: the final preseason game, though this year didn't play at

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Speaker 2: all again the Giants last night.

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Speaker 3: So I asked the question who made that call?

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Speaker 2: So Robert Seller, the coach of the Jets, that he

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Speaker 2: changed his approach, and I said to myself, you know,

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Speaker 2: and he said that to the media, and I wish

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Speaker 2: I was in that media room. What wean, what's your approach?

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Speaker 2: What was the change? He never mentioned what the change

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Speaker 2: of approaches? And I got to believe management told him

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Speaker 2: to say, you better Dan not play Aaron Rodgers in

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Speaker 2: that game because he's our season.

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Speaker 3: But he wouldn't say that.

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Speaker 2: I think Robert Seller and when they talk about coaches

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Speaker 2: on hot seats right now, they always claim point finger

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Speaker 2: to Dallas.

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Speaker 3: I don't think so.

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Speaker 2: I think Sala is the one who's kind of got

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Speaker 2: the most heat under his rear end right now.

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Speaker 3: Do you agree on that?

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Speaker 2: I really do, because I think that it's all about

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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers. No, he doesn't play. Sala's out and everybody's gone.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Sala's got more more heat on his

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Speaker 4: seat than McCarthy. I'm not sure Sirianni isn't the one

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Speaker 4: that comes in if that Eagles team looks bad the

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Speaker 4: first half of the season. But I will say this

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Speaker 4: about the entire process for the Jets. The next time

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Speaker 4: that organize handles tremendous chaos well will be the first

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Speaker 4: time that that organization has handled tremendous chaos well. So

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Speaker 4: why am I supposed to believe there? And look, I'll

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Speaker 4: apply this universally to Aaron Rodgers and to Frankly kirk Cousins.

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Speaker 4: I don't trust three hundred and seventy two year old

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Speaker 4: quarterbacks coming off an achilles injury. I just don't, so

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Speaker 4: I think it's fair to say, hey, i'd like to

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Speaker 4: see what that chain looks like. When you talk about

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Speaker 4: weight and balance and the way guys throw the ball

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Speaker 4: and what it means for their achilles, I just think

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Speaker 4: there's a lot to it. So I would love for

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Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers to come in and be available all season,

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Speaker 4: because I think that's more interesting and it gives us

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Speaker 4: more stories.

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Speaker 1: To talk about.

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Speaker 4: But I just have a hard time, and I know

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Speaker 4: Jets fans will at me as they did last year.

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Speaker 4: Jets fans last year, I have plenty to say about

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Speaker 4: not trusting that Aaron Rodgers was going to just step in.

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Speaker 4: I didn't love some of the roster moves they made,

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Speaker 4: and Jets fans came at me the entire summer, telling

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Speaker 4: me I was a moron, and then disappeared once the

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Speaker 4: team didn't have a quarterback anymore.

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Speaker 1: I would say this to Jets fans, like this is

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Speaker 1: just universal.

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Speaker 4: When your quarterback is forty years old and you've tried

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Speaker 4: to fix it by putting guys that are possibly injury prone.

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Speaker 4: To say that politely in front of him on an

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Speaker 4: offensive line that you know still may or may not

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Speaker 4: be great.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Like I think it's fair to step back and say

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Speaker 4: I have real questions about the Jets this season, and

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Speaker 4: if the Jets aren't great, then sala is going to

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Speaker 4: have to hear noise every single week.

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Speaker 1: If Aaron Rodgers just.

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Speaker 4: Comes back and plays like a pretty good quarterback, then

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Speaker 4: Robert sala is gonna have to answer questions about it

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Speaker 4: every week. Like the opportunity for chaos for the Jets

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Speaker 4: is bigger than it is for any franchise, and I

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Speaker 4: do think that that becomes a distraction.

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Speaker 3: No doubt about that. The New York media doesn't help either.

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Speaker 2: But this guy, Robert Sala three years, he's eighteen and

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Speaker 2: thirty three as a head coach. I mean, that doesn't

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Speaker 2: cut it in New York. The only saving grace is

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Speaker 2: the fact that they haven't won so long. I think

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Speaker 2: people are getting used to not winning. But go back

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Speaker 2: to Atlanta for a second. You talk about Kirk Cousins. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he's coming off that injury, but at least they have

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Speaker 2: a backup. They have some guy who's going to be

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Speaker 2: maybe that quarterback of the future of Michael Pennix junior.

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Speaker 2: You know, I don't know what the Jets have. I mean,

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Speaker 2: the Jets have what Tarad Taylor, who's been a journeyman

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Speaker 2: in the National Football League. So I think that you know,

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Speaker 2: Atlanta has at least a bettest shot with a guy

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Speaker 2: who's somewhat maybe coming off an injury than Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 2: was forty years of age coming off that injury. And

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Speaker 2: who's going to back them up? I don't know.

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Speaker 4: And that was the cardinal sin last year, Like they

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Speaker 4: had to know as an organization that Zach Wilson was

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Speaker 4: going to red shirt and not see the field no

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Speaker 4: matter what. And if that's the case, you couldn't put

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Speaker 4: yourself in a situation where God forbid, something happens to

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Speaker 4: your quarterback Zach Wilson's on the field. Like that was

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Speaker 4: an organizational mismanagement mistake to me. So to come in

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Speaker 4: now and say, well, Torod Taylor's going to manage this thing, like,

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Speaker 4: I don't know how I feel about that at all.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's I'm not saying that there was an easy,

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Speaker 4: better solution. That's always difficult, but man, I would be

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Speaker 4: more comfortable frankly, based.

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Speaker 1: On what we saw last year.

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Speaker 4: I'd be more comfortable if they got out and aggressively

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Speaker 4: gotten somebody like Flacco to come back into the building.

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Speaker 4: Like it's just yeah, it's a less than ideal situation

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Speaker 4: and you can't do that two years in a row.

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Speaker 3: You're exactly right. He's Jason Fitz.

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Speaker 2: I'm Andy Fermerway on Fox Sports Sunning of Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Ready and now coming up next on Fox Live from

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Speaker 2: the Tyraq dot com studio. Just what he needs, even

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Speaker 2: more pressure, that's next. But first, a man who thrives

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Speaker 2: on pressure all the time, Kevin Wyatt with all your sport.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: One team who did not thrive on pressure though. On Saturday,

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Speaker 7: the Florida State Seminoles. They played Georgia Tech in at Dublin,

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Speaker 7: Ireland to begin their season, and the Yellow Jacks coming

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Speaker 7: away with the upset.

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Speaker 3: It's tumbling, it's turning, it is.

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Speaker 4: The horn kid, the luck of the Iris, it's the

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Speaker 4: heart of the Jackets, and Georgia Tech knocks off number

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Speaker 4: ten Florida State.

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Speaker 7: Georgia Tech Sports that work from lear Field there with

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Speaker 7: the call as Georgia Tech upsetting the tenth thranks Seminoles

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Speaker 7: twenty four to twenty one on that forty four yard

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Speaker 7: buzzer beating field goal and four Georgia Tech. The last

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Speaker 7: time they beat a top ten opponent back in twenty fifteen,

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Speaker 7: it was Florida State, so history repeating itself in Dublin

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Speaker 7: on Saturday. Elsewhere, in college football, SMU with a come

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Speaker 7: from behind win against Nevada. They win it twenty nine

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Speaker 7: to twenty four after they get sixteen points late in

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Speaker 7: the fourth quarter. Montana State the first FCS over FBS upset.

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Speaker 7: They get three fourth quarter touchdowns to take down New

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Speaker 7: Mexico and Albuquerque thirty five to thirty one. And the

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Speaker 7: Lake Game out on the Islands Hawaii in Delaware State,

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Speaker 7: the Rainbow Warriors do win it thirty five two fourteen.

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Speaker 7: In a Major League Baseball, Daughters five game winning streak

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Speaker 7: comes to and in at the hand of the Tampa

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Speaker 7: Bay Rays, who get homers in the ninth and tenth

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Speaker 7: inning to beat Los Angeles nine to eight. Arizona, though

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Speaker 7: they're still red hot five straight wins, including a four

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Speaker 7: to one victory against the Red Sox, the Padres do

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Speaker 7: lose to the Mets seven to one, so LA is

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Speaker 7: lead in that division now sits at three games. Cleveland

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Speaker 7: Guardians demolished the Texas Rangers thirteen to five. Twins keep

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Speaker 7: pace with a six to nothing win against the Cardinals,

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Speaker 7: but the Royals do loose in the Phillies eleven to

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Speaker 7: two behind a couple of home runs from JT Real

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Speaker 7: To so Cleveland's lead in that American League Central sits

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Speaker 7: at two games. In the Al Ease, it's the Yankees

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Speaker 7: lead once again, down to a half a game on

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Speaker 7: the Orioles. That's after the Bronx Bombers lose to the

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Speaker 7: Rockies nine to two. The Orioles get a three to

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Speaker 7: two victory against the Astros, so again that Yankee lead

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Speaker 7: just half a game. The Giants do beat the Seattle

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Speaker 7: Mariners four to three at the Little league level Little

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Speaker 7: League World Series Championship game set for Sunday, Florida and Taiwan.

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Speaker 7: First pitch set for three o'clock Eastern time. In the WNBA,

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Speaker 7: Kate Leclark in action on Saturday, twenty three points eight assists,

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Speaker 7: but the Indiana Fever do lose to Minnesota ninety to eighty.

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Speaker 2: Beck You guys, thanks keV. Seeing it now now expectations

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Speaker 2: can kill. We'll get to that in just about a minute.

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Speaker 2: He's Jason Fitzen foot Bucket Brooklyn, Andy Furman, and this

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Speaker 2: is Fox Sports Sunday and one of my favorite players

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Speaker 2: in baseball of all time, Rod Carew Get this, FITZI

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Speaker 2: he became an American citizen yesterday. So my question is

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Speaker 2: it too late for to vote for this year? We

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Speaker 2: have been voting coming up in November, big election. I mean,

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Speaker 2: if you become a citizen yesterday, you have to wait

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Speaker 2: to How does that work?

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I think, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, but congrats you listen, that's an incredible

658
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Speaker 4: anytime somebody gets their citizenship. To me, that's such an

659
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Speaker 4: incredible and like just humbling moment that somebody loves the

660
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Speaker 4: place that they live in so much that they put

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Speaker 4: that effort in to learn about it and to assimilate

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Speaker 4: into it and really be part of it.

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Speaker 1: And I just I think it's such a beautiful thing. Man.

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Speaker 1: That's incredible. And I hope he gets to vote, because

665
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Speaker 1: I do. That's one of the great things that you

666
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Speaker 1: get from that.

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Speaker 2: So maybe that's why he went for the citizenship now

668
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Speaker 2: to vote for you for the presidential election. Who knows

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Speaker 2: about that. All right, we're gonna have ask FITZI. Are

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Speaker 2: you ready to ask FITZI in about seven eight minutes

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Speaker 2: from now?

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Speaker 3: You ready for that?

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Speaker 1: I'm ready. I feel good. I feel good, I feel

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Speaker 1: hyped up. I'm ready.

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Speaker 3: You sound great? You really do? Okay.

676
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Speaker 2: I'll talk about the quarterbacks in the National Football League,

677
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 2: in particular, bon nicks Bone needs to be the first

678
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Speaker 2: Broncos quarterback in Denver, a rookie to start since John

679
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Speaker 2: Elway in nineteen eighty three.

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Speaker 3: You don't think that's pressure. I don't know why they

681
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Speaker 3: would do that. I get it. You know, he's a first.

682
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Speaker 2: Pick, he's a rookie quarterback at a big college career.

683
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Speaker 2: He's going to be the quarterback of the future. But

684
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Speaker 2: they're thrown to the wolves like that. You know, back

685
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 2: in the day, the guy would come on the sidelines

686
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Speaker 2: with his baseball cap on backwards with a clipboard.

687
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Speaker 3: And learn, Learn.

688
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 2: And you know who follows that ruling. You know who's

689
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 2: followed that path. The Green Bay Packers. Look what they've

690
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 2: done with their quarterbacks. They have their quarterbacks learning from

691
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Speaker 2: the Brett Farrs of the world, and then the Aaron

692
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Speaker 2: Rodgers of the world, and Jordan Love came in learning

693
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Speaker 2: from Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 3: I think that's the way to go.

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Speaker 2: But now they've thrown these guys to the wolves with

696
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Speaker 2: you know, all of a sudden, you get beat up,

697
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Speaker 2: you lose your confidence, and I just don't understand why

698
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Speaker 2: you throw that guy in there with all that pressure.

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Speaker 2: I just it boggles my mind where they're doing that,

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Speaker 2: especially in Denver. I've lived there, and those people are fanatics.

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Speaker 2: They're crazy, those fans.

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Speaker 4: It does put a lot of pressure on BO. But

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Speaker 4: Bo is older than most. I say that politely.

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Speaker 1: Bo.

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Speaker 4: He's twenty four years old, right like, so you know,

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Speaker 4: if you think about it, Jordan Love is I think

707
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Speaker 4: twenty five, and bow Nicks is twenty four.

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Speaker 1: He's played a lot college football.

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Speaker 4: BO was also I think just a little bit more

710
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Speaker 4: life mature than a lot of kids that come out.

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Speaker 4: I mean, because he is twenty four, because you know,

712
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Speaker 4: the way life went down for him, like you know,

713
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 4: going from Auburn to Oregon was a very conscious decision,

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Speaker 4: and you know, I think there's some maturity to how

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Speaker 4: he lives his life that probably makes him well suited

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Speaker 4: for it. I still think, and I would implore anybody

717
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Speaker 4: because I was on the sidelines for the first ever

718
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Speaker 4: bow Knick's college game when he was playing for Auburn.

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Speaker 4: Like I was at that game covering it for ESPN

720
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Speaker 4: at the time. And if you go back and you

721
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Speaker 4: really rewatch his college career, his road and home splits

722
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 4: are drastic, especially in the SEC, they were awful. So

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Speaker 4: Bo was a much different quarterback at home than it

724
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Speaker 4: was on the road. That didn't really rear its ugly

725
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Speaker 4: head to the same level at Oregon, which you could

726
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Speaker 4: say is maybe maturity in his process, but you could

727
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Speaker 4: also just to be polite, especially post COVID, are Pack

728
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 4: twelve environments, particularly as taunting for the most part, as

729
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Speaker 4: what it's like to if you're an Auburn.

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Speaker 1: Quarterback playing at Alabama, I don't think so.

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Speaker 4: So I'm genuinely interested to see what rears as ugly

732
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Speaker 4: head there, you know, when he has to go to Arrowhead,

733
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Speaker 4: what's that looked like. Plus to your point about the Broncos,

734
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Speaker 4: the Broncos roster is not good. And I know everybody

735
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Speaker 4: wants to sit here and say, but to Sean Payton

736
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Speaker 4: and it's bow next cool. You don't win a bunch

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Speaker 4: of games with that combination without having other people on

738
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Speaker 4: your roster that can play. I just think the Broncos

739
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Speaker 4: are kind of a disaster right now with where they

740
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Speaker 4: are in their talent they're rebuilding. I think they'll be

741
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Speaker 4: fine long term, but this year I expect Bo to

742
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 4: have some huge ups and downs and that's going to

743
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Speaker 4: be tough on the kid. He's got to be able

744
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Speaker 4: to have that confidence to go through it, and Sean

745
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Speaker 4: Payton is going to have to manage him in a

746
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Speaker 4: way that Sean Bayton clearly showed he couldn't manage with

747
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Speaker 4: Russell Wilson.

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Speaker 2: You know, you're exactly right, and you know what, if

749
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Speaker 2: you want to get ato Sean Payton's mindset over here,

750
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Speaker 2: you know, Bo may have gotten this quarterbacking gig by default.

751
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Speaker 2: Now who's going to start there? Jared Stidham was Zach Wilson.

752
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 2: I mean, so basically he's the best of the rest,

753
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Speaker 2: and look, let him take his lumps, because he's going

754
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Speaker 2: to be our guy for the future. And you certainly

755
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 2: correct about you know what they have. The wide receiver

756
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 2: situation right now is sort of weak. You know, you're

757
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 2: only as good as the people around you. You really are.

758
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 2: Certainly you've got to move with the quarterback in the

759
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 2: National FOOTBA League, but he needs some help and he

760
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 2: doesn't have much help over there.

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Speaker 3: He really doesn't.

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Speaker 4: I think quarterback, particularly in the NFL, in a perfect world,

763
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Speaker 4: is supposed to be like a seesaw or teeter totter,

764
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Speaker 4: depending on where you grew up. Right, Like in the beginning,

765
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 4: the people around the quarterback are supposed to help lift

766
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Speaker 4: the quarterback up, and then eventually the scales tip and

767
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,479
Speaker 4: the quarterback is lifting everybody else up. So it's going

768
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Speaker 4: to be interesting to see when bo is being asked

769
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Speaker 4: to do the heavy lifting from day.

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Speaker 1: One, what that looks like.

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Speaker 4: You know, there are rare moments where Jordan Love is

772
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Speaker 4: growing with a young cores all at the same time,

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Speaker 4: you know. But I would also remind people that right now,

774
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Speaker 4: in the entire conversation about Jordan Love, even we just

775
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 4: we're giving the grace of forgiveness for the entire first

776
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Speaker 4: half of the season last year where he was not good.

777
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Speaker 4: I mean, go back and rewatch that that Monday night

778
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 4: game against the Raiders, Jordan Love was just an abject

779
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 4: to It was terrible, right, So it took a little

780
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 4: while for him to either get comfortable or whatever we're

781
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 4: gonna call it, right, you know, so I would expect

782
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Speaker 4: some of the same from Bo right, Like that only

783
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 4: makes sense. You're looking at a kid that's coming in

784
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 4: kind of have to learn the speed of the game quickly,

785
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 4: doesn't have a great mentor tutor around him to help

786
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Speaker 4: him that play it at that point, like that quarterback

787
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 4: room doesn't have a dominant they don't.

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Speaker 1: It's not Patrick Mahomes with then Alex Smith, Like there

789
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 1: is no Alex Smith in that room.

790
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Speaker 4: So I do think that all impacts the first six

791
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Speaker 4: eight weeks of the Broncos season.

792
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Speaker 2: You just made a great point with that tita tita situation,

793
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Speaker 2: because you know, does the quarterback meet the receiver or

794
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 2: vice versa. I look at Kansas City with Patrick Mahomes

795
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Speaker 2: Tyreek Hill. When Tyreek Hill left and they went to

796
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 2: Miami to the Dolphins, everybody, oh it's all over you look,

797
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 2: they thrived.

798
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 3: They didn't miss a beat.

799
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Speaker 2: The Chiefs had not missed a beat with Tyreek Hill

800
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Speaker 2: going to the Miami Dolphins. So again, you know, Patrick

801
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 2: Mahomes is there. They complimented each other very nicely. You

802
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 2: go back to to the New England Patriots, with Tom Brady.

803
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Speaker 2: You know what Hall of Fame receivers had he ever

804
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 2: had in New England. Seriously, so he sort of tipped

805
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 2: the scale a little bit because I think he made

806
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Speaker 2: the receivers in New England more so than receivers making him.

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Speaker 1: You're right, yeah, and it's it's a process, you know.

808
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Speaker 4: And for everyone that sits there and looks at Mahomes

809
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 4: and says what we got to find on Mahomes, I

810
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 4: would just remind everybody that Patrick Mahomes was drafted in

811
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Speaker 4: a situation where he has credited in interviews repeatedly that

812
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Speaker 4: Alex Smith helped teach him how to prep, how to

813
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 4: watch film, how to break down everything, how to be

814
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 4: a pro, how to eat, what to do like Alex

815
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Speaker 4: Smith helped him grow, while he also had one of

816
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Speaker 4: the better offensive minds we've ever seen, and Andy Reid

817
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Speaker 4: with him, So like great, if you want to go

818
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 4: draft the best quarterback, arguably one of the best quarterbacks

819
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Speaker 4: of all time and the best quarterback of his current generation.

820
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Speaker 4: If you want to go get that guy, you also

821
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Speaker 4: better have the best mentor and you also have to

822
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Speaker 4: have one of, if not the best coaches in the

823
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Speaker 4: game right now. If you combine all those things, you

824
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 4: can have your mahomes. And so if you're Denver, you're

825
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 4: looking at and say, well, why can't Sean Payton be

826
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 4: Andy Reid? Okay, well, somebody still has to be Alex Smith.

827
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Speaker 4: Like somebody, he still has to help grow the maturity

828
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Speaker 4: of the kids. So I just I need to remind

829
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Speaker 4: everybody that it's not just draft a guy and he's

830
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Speaker 4: going to be mahomes. There's so much that goes into

831
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Speaker 4: actually creating mahomes that we forget now with context and the.

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Speaker 2: Kansas City situation having you know, Mahomes learned from the mentor,

833
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 2: and the Green Bay situation, having Jordan Love learned from

834
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 2: the mentor. You know, that's kind of gone by the boards,

835
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Speaker 2: but it's worth that. It's worse than Kansas City and

836
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 2: it's working in Green Bay. But you know what the

837
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 2: other clubs don't do it. They take these quarterbacks, they

838
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 2: draft them, boom, they throw them to the wolves and

839
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 2: sometimes the confidence factor and maybe that's why Zach Wilson failed.

840
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 2: You need to throw the guy to the wolves, and

841
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 2: he just couldn't get it done, especially with that harsh,

842
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 2: harsh New York media. But we move on, all right,

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Speaker 2: Jason fitz Andy Furman, Fox Sports Sonny and Fox Sport's ready.

844
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Speaker 2: You know what it's time ask FITZI his next.

845
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Speaker 5: You're listening to Fox sportsdio, all right.

846
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 3: Ask Fitzy's coming right up.

847
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Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Sonny and Fox Sports ready to

848
00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 2: ask Jason Fitzen for Bucket Brooks right here, Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Sunday on, Andy Furman and we'll live from the ti

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Speaker 2: rap dot com studios.

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Speaker 3: Are you ready? Buckling in fits? Are you ready?

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Speaker 1: I feel good? I feel so ready for this. Let's go.

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Speaker 2: Here we go, Here we go for you, fitz Is

854
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Speaker 2: it football or is it music for you?

855
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Speaker 1: What do you mean?

856
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 3: Like we that's a question of me. But what's what's

857
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 3: your priority in life? Football and music?

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00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 4: I mean football is my priority and music is just

859
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 4: what I do for fun. Like you know, music is

860
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:30,360
Speaker 4: just I've been lucky enough to live two dream careers.

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Speaker 1: I never I never shy away from that.

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00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 4: But this summer I got to sit in with a

863
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Speaker 4: bunch of buddies and have a bunch of fun.

864
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Speaker 1: Playing some shows. So you know, like music's a nice release.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, like the number of times I would post

866
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Speaker 4: something about like me sitting in with a buddy and

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Speaker 4: playing the show, and they're like, oh, everyone's like you're

868
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Speaker 4: getting back on the road.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, god, no, Like it's nice.

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Speaker 4: I get to go out on stage, you get to

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Speaker 4: play a song with you know, Chris you Own or

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Speaker 4: Collective Soul or somebody like that, and like have a

873
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Speaker 4: good time. And then I go. But they go live

874
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 4: on a tour bus. I go back to my comfy

875
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 4: house and talk about football. I'll take football all day

876
00:35:58,239 --> 00:35:58,800
Speaker 4: over music.

877
00:35:59,160 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 8: There we go.

878
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,240
Speaker 2: Okay, So, so how does your life change Jason Fitz

879
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:03,720
Speaker 2: during the football season.

880
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 4: Oh, man, Like I have to actually watch all the games. Like,

881
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 4: here's one thing. I'm not a fan of faking watching it.

882
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:17,720
Speaker 4: So like for me, I rewatch every game, every NFL

883
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 4: game from every Sunday. I rewatch, and then I also

884
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 4: try and go back and rewatch every game from like

885
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 4: a ranked team in college football as best I can.

886
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,720
Speaker 4: That's harder because some of that stuff is harder to find.

887
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 4: But like, I never want somebody else to form my opinions.

888
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 4: So one thing for me is like I spend a

889
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 4: lot of my week rewatching things with a notepad, tried

890
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 4: to figure out like what I actually think. But the

891
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 4: one thing that I love about football season. I say

892
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 4: this all the time, my friend.

893
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 1: You get this.

894
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 4: Our job is to write a book report after every

895
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,800
Speaker 4: chapter of a book. So the biggest thing I always

896
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 4: try and do is just acknowledge it. Just because chapter

897
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:49,360
Speaker 4: one of a book looked like it was going to

898
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 4: be the best ever doesn't mean that it's wrong to

899
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 4: admit that after chapter two the book now sucks. Like So,

900
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,320
Speaker 4: you know, Colin says all the time, like new information,

901
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 4: new opinion.

902
00:36:58,160 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 1: I believe that strongly.

903
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 4: You know, you got to rewatch everything to make sure

904
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 4: that you're actually giving the best information you can.

905
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 3: All right, okay, go, all right, continue.

906
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 2: We would ask FITZI football for you, obviously I love,

907
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 2: But as a college or NFL, which one it takes priority?

908
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 3: And why?

909
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 1: Oh that's a great question. See.

910
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,800
Speaker 4: I prefer covering college because I don't care who wins

911
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 4: or loses. I just want people to yell and scream,

912
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 4: like that's the fun in all.

913
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 1: Of it for me.

914
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,360
Speaker 4: So I'm all in for covering college because frankly, I

915
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 4: don't have any emotion with it. That being said my

916
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 4: whole week, even as a grown man that should never

917
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 4: admit this. My whole week changes based on how my

918
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 4: beloved Raiders play, so sadly, unfortunately, because of that, I

919
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,280
Speaker 4: am you know, my Sundays are just absolutely all about

920
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 4: the regiment of watching NFL games and then you know,

921
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 4: trying to get somewhere private to watch the Raiders game

922
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 4: because I have to apologize to my neighbors for my

923
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 4: language every week when I watch it.

924
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:51,839
Speaker 1: So I openly admit that.

925
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 4: But yeah, I'm a I prefer as a fan, I

926
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 4: prefer the NFL. As a media member. I much prefer

927
00:37:57,920 --> 00:37:59,720
Speaker 4: college because I don't care who wins it loses.

928
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 2: There you go, Okay, Now, which NFL rookie quarterback will

929
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 2: have the most success this season? Caleb Williams, Bow Knicks

930
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 2: or Jaden Daniels or anybody else in your heart of.

931
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 4: Hearts, Yeah, it's Caleb, and it's not even close. I

932
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 4: think Caleb is great by the way. You know, it's

933
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 4: funny how we just try and make simple things complicated sometimes,

934
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,320
Speaker 4: and that's what we did with Caleb in the draft.

935
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Speaker 4: Caleb Williams is going to be a great quarterback. Congratulations,

936
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,240
Speaker 4: Bears fans, you can relax. I don't care about sid luckman.

937
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 4: I don't care about Jim McMahon. You have a quarterback

938
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 4: at this point. Relax. You got a guy I think

939
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:36,800
Speaker 4: honestly that we're gonna find over the next several years

940
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 4: that he becomes Caleb becomes one of the great quarterbacks

941
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 4: in the end, not one of the good.

942
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Speaker 1: I think he becomes one of the great quarterbacks in

943
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 1: the league.

944
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 2: You know, when Caleb Williams, who's drafted, Sid Luckman's name

945
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 2: came out of the dead, they really did. I mean,

946
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 2: that's how bad, that's how far back you got to

947
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,800
Speaker 2: go to find that a franchise quarterback with the Chicago Bears.

948
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 2: I mean, people had never heard of Sid Luckman and

949
00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 2: his name became commonplace when they drafted Caleb Williams.

950
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 3: It's unbelievable, it really is.

951
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, you got kids out there in Chicago saying Sid

952
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 4: Luckman's lame, like I know who the heck he is.

953
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 1: It's hysterical to me.

954
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 4: So yeah, one hundred percent, Sid, thanks for your time

955
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 4: with the Bears.

956
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 1: But the Bears are gonna be fine now.

957
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 9: They got it.

958
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:15,240
Speaker 1: They got a modern quarterback.

959
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,359
Speaker 2: Sid Luckman Erasmus Hole High School in Brooklyn, the same

960
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 2: as Billy Cunningham, all right, who signs a contract first

961
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 2: with the Dallas Cowboys Michael Parsons, Dak Prescott was C.

962
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 3: D Lamb.

963
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go see d Lamb with this one because

964
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 4: I think the comps in the market make it the easiest.

965
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:32,799
Speaker 1: Look, here's my belief on DAK.

966
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,280
Speaker 4: I believe that Dak is gonna have an MVP caliber season,

967
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 4: might even win the dang thing. I think the Cowboys

968
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 4: are gonna win a bunch of football games because that's

969
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 4: all they ever do, and the death of the Cowboys

970
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 4: is wildly overrated. In that process, I think Dak's gonna

971
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 4: just figure out what the open market looks like. And

972
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 4: I believe that there are multiple teams, one of which

973
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 4: is my beloved Raiders, that at the end of this year,

974
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,720
Speaker 4: are gonna be prepared to offer Dak sixty million dollars

975
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 4: a year, fully guaranteed on a four year contract where

976
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 4: every dollar is guarant like I'm talking to Sean Watson.

977
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:00,879
Speaker 4: Guaranteed type money coming Dak at the end.

978
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 1: Of the year. Love it or hated it.

979
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 4: If you're a Cowboys fan, if you got nothing you'd

980
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 4: rather have, You'd rather have Dak all day than some

981
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 4: of the options that are out there in this league.

982
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 4: So I think Dak's going to be the last to go.

983
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 4: So I'll go CD one, Micah two, Dak three, and

984
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 4: Dak's not going to be a.

985
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:14,879
Speaker 1: Cowboy next year.

986
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,360
Speaker 2: Well, I hear you saying, I'm really surprised because I

987
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 2: thought that would be the number one. But let me

988
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 2: do this with you. Let's have Fitzi's top three quarterbacks

989
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 2: in the NFL, but throw Patrick Mahomes out because I

990
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:25,879
Speaker 2: know you're gonna make him number one.

991
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 3: So one, two and three without Patrick Mahomes.

992
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:32,879
Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson MVP, Josh Allen MVP caliber and this year

993
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 4: Joe Burrow if he can stay healthy.

994
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 2: I can't believe you, Josh all In the end, I

995
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,359
Speaker 2: can't believe John. I mean, I mean, I just think

996
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 2: without Stefan Marbury. Well, we'll see what happens over the okay,

997
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 2: Jason Fitz Andy Fermer, right here, Fox Sports something on

998
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,879
Speaker 2: Fox Sports right to stick with us. Right here, this

999
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 2: team is chasing a record and breaking the bank. We'll

1000
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:54,800
Speaker 2: get to that in just about a minute. He's Jason

1001
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Speaker 2: Fitz Andy Furman, and we off Fox Sports Sunday on

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1007
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Speaker 2: should be talked about, written about, and discussed. None other

1008
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 2: than Jason Fitz sitting there for Bucky Brooks right here

1009
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:21,840
Speaker 2: on Fox Sports on a j F.

1010
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 4: How you doing living the dream? I mean, come on,

1011
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 4: we're hanging out like it's a beautiful weekend. We got

1012
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 4: college football alire Forrest. We're only a few weeks away

1013
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 4: from the NFL being there, like we're about to have

1014
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 4: the big week one in a few days.

1015
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 1: Like, I don't know it, just if your life feels

1016
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 1: good right now.

1017
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 4: Look, the hot take of the world is that I

1018
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 4: think summer is wildly overrated, and I think fall is

1019
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 4: the best season. So for me, this is all just

1020
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 4: the signature that we're almost through summer, which is kind

1021
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 4: of gross, and we're finally to the time of the

1022
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 4: year that I think is the best, which is clearly fall.

1023
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 3: Some is not overrated.

1024
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 2: When you were a student, When you were when you're

1025
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:58,760
Speaker 2: in school, you can't wait for somemmer.

1026
00:41:58,760 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 3: But you're right.

1027
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,240
Speaker 2: I think that the fall may be the best because

1028
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 2: the season's great, the weather's better, but the days get shorter,

1029
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 2: and I don't like that. Not short, but it gets

1030
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 2: stucker earlier. But I want to talk a little bit

1031
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 2: about the NFL right now. I want to talk about

1032
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 2: one of the teams that it's a tremendous thing what

1033
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:15,799
Speaker 2: they're doing, what they're trying to accomplish. I'm talking about

1034
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 2: the Kansas City Chiefs. They're aiming to become the first

1035
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:22,720
Speaker 2: team in the NFL Super Bowl era to win three

1036
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 2: straight titles, three straight Super Bowls, which is unheard of.

1037
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,919
Speaker 2: It's unreal, And honestly, I'm gonna say this, I don't

1038
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 2: think the Chiefs get the credit they deserve. I mean,

1039
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 2: it's like a whole hum thing with the Kansas City Chiefs.

1040
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 2: It's always about who's going to dethrone them rather than

1041
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 2: how good they are. And what do I say? Why

1042
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,360
Speaker 2: do I say that? Because the cost of their success

1043
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 2: keeps going up for those Kansas City Chiefs. They just

1044
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 2: signed an extension to their center Creed Humphrey four years

1045
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 2: seventy two MILI, making him the highest paid center in

1046
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,359
Speaker 2: the NFL. And this comes right after a four year

1047
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 2: deal for their kicker, Harrison Butker, for twenty five and

1048
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 2: a half million dollars. So the money is flowing in

1049
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 2: Kansas City and they keep on rolling stopping this team.

1050
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,359
Speaker 4: Which is just sort of a reminder to everybody else

1051
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 4: when you complain, well, can't pay this guy, can't pay

1052
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,799
Speaker 4: that guy. You can if the guy is great, Like,

1053
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 4: they'll figure it out if the guy is great. And

1054
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:14,839
Speaker 4: the salary cap numbers is where they're going right now,

1055
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:18,319
Speaker 4: and the trajectory of the new TV deals and what

1056
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 4: that means for the future of the salary cap.

1057
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:22,399
Speaker 1: I just think everybody needs to calm down.

1058
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 4: A little bit with this concept of like, oh a minute,

1059
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,320
Speaker 4: somebody gets paid, it's the end of the world. No,

1060
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 4: it isn't like there's just it's a necessary evil. If

1061
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 4: you have talent, you're gonna have to pay talent. Like,

1062
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 4: I just don't know what else I can tell fans

1063
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 4: other than if you have talent, you're gonna have to

1064
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 4: pay talent.

1065
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 1: And you should have that problem.

1066
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 4: Worry about that problem when you get to that spot,

1067
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 4: like you know, it's not old and the chiefs back

1068
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 4: and I'm not picking against the Chiefs.

1069
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:45,880
Speaker 1: I'm done. I'm done being.

1070
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 4: An idiot at the end of the year when I

1071
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:48,879
Speaker 4: think this is the year the Chiefs walk it back

1072
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 4: and it's like, nope, the Chiefs are the Chiefs, and

1073
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 4: the Chiefs are always going to be the Chiefs.

1074
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know if they are always going to

1075
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 2: be the Chiefs, but honestly, I mean certainly, and Andy Reid,

1076
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 2: I should say, they lost to your raiders last year

1077
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:03,879
Speaker 2: down the stretch you must have been, But.

1078
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 1: What's the matter? What's it matter? Like they went? You know.

1079
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 4: That's the funny thing is if not, if not last

1080
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 4: year when like if you're Buffalo who I just praised,

1081
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 4: you know, Josh Allen earlier, if you couldn't get the

1082
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 4: chief that version of the Chiefs, why are you ever

1083
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 4: going to get the Chiefs? Like it's just one of

1084
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 4: those things where last year's version of the Chiefs was

1085
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 4: not they were not superhuman, they were supposedly gettable, and

1086
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 4: all they did was hoist the Lombardy yet again. So

1087
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,399
Speaker 4: I just the death of the Chiefs is something I'm

1088
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 4: not going to talk about in the regular season. I

1089
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 4: don't care if you and I are playing wide receiver form.

1090
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 4: I still believe in Mahomes that much.

1091
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. I need to tell you what that

1092
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 2: my home story. I mean again, I think it gets

1093
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,359
Speaker 2: buried under so many other stories in the National Football League.

1094
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 2: I mean, this guy came out of Texas Tech and

1095
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 2: they had a losing, say a season when he was

1096
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:49,839
Speaker 2: a senior. But the money factor, I'm not so sure.

1097
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:52,879
Speaker 2: It's personnel as much as management that wants to win.

1098
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 2: If management wants to win, they find the way. What

1099
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 2: do I mean by that? Andy Reid just signs a

1100
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 2: five year deal for one hundred mili one hundred million dollars.

1101
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,319
Speaker 2: It's a lot of Hamburgers for Andy Reid, it really is.

1102
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:05,280
Speaker 2: But if management wants to win, they find the money.

1103
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 2: And it's kind of an eagle thing. You know, these

1104
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 2: owners want to be down there hoisting that trophy. They

1105
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 2: really do. So, you know, you want to win Boom,

1106
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 2: you pay for the price. There's a price for victory.

1107
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 2: And they've got that money going and it's flowing in

1108
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:20,320
Speaker 2: Kansas City.

1109
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 4: Well, they also have really good smart people around, you know,

1110
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 4: and that's one thing that you know, we get so

1111
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:30,319
Speaker 4: obsessed with quarterbacks and we get so obsessed with the

1112
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:31,840
Speaker 4: easy answer of a coach.

1113
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 1: But man, if you're the Chiefs, you've.

1114
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:37,320
Speaker 4: Got a strong front office, you've got a great head coach,

1115
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:39,919
Speaker 4: you've got a great quarterback, and now you're spending money

1116
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 4: all over the place because when you have those things,

1117
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 4: every year you're in your pocket. Every year you're in

1118
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 4: your window where this is the year that you know

1119
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 4: we might we can win it all. And so it's

1120
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 4: just it changes so much. I just we undervalue the

1121
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 4: rest of organizations. And it's one thing that is everybody

1122
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 4: goes into the picks this year.

1123
00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 1: Just look around.

1124
00:45:58,040 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 4: You'll notice the teams that are picked to go in

1125
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 4: to finish in last are always the teams that have

1126
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 4: the questionable quarterback coach situation that people don't really pay

1127
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 4: a lot of attention to.

1128
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 1: Right.

1129
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 4: So, you know, it's funny to me that we have

1130
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 4: this sort of block as a society. And I don't

1131
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:16,799
Speaker 4: care if we're talking about the Raiders, who you know,

1132
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 4: obviously I'm a fan, I never hide that, but the

1133
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 4: concept that they're going to be one of the worst

1134
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 4: teams in the league, just to me, that begs that

1135
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 4: you didn't really watch last year because they shouldn't be

1136
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 4: that you know, and the Titans and an area I'm

1137
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:30,880
Speaker 4: familiar with after years in Nashville, like the amount of

1138
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 4: times I hear opinions on the Titans that are just

1139
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:34,800
Speaker 4: obviously not informed.

1140
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 1: And they're not informed because nobody pays attention.

1141
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 4: Why because they don't have a quarterback and coach usually

1142
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:41,839
Speaker 4: that people are that interested in. So it's just it's

1143
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 4: a weird dynamic that we just have to understand that

1144
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 4: everybody puts all the weight on one thing.

1145
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 2: Food trips to the Super Bowl, three titles and six

1146
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:53,400
Speaker 2: AFC Championships games appearances in the last six seasons for

1147
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 2: the Kansas City Chiefs, and the money is flowing. And

1148
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,439
Speaker 2: I say this to send the message out to Jerry Jones.

1149
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 2: If you're a Dallas Cowboys fan, you got to be

1150
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 2: scratch in your head why this guy will not sign

1151
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 2: Dak Prescott with this again, as you just mentioned, the

1152
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 2: teams that are on the second level, the second tier

1153
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 2: of the national football they have quarterback problems, they really do.

1154
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 2: And the longer you wait, the longer you wait to

1155
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 2: sign a guy, then what when are you gonna end

1156
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:16,239
Speaker 2: up paying for the guy? I mean, the dark Prescott's

1157
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 2: just just licking his chops right now. You know that,

1158
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 2: because he'll become a free agent next year and command

1159
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 2: big time money. If Dallas doesn't want to give up

1160
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 2: the money, and I don't know why they won't, they

1161
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 2: should have sign him in June.

1162
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, and that's you're one hundred percent right. If

1163
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 4: you know you have your guy, If you think you

1164
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:36,720
Speaker 4: have your guy, just go sign him. Because the sooner

1165
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 4: you get that money paid out, the sooner you're ahead

1166
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:41,760
Speaker 4: of the curve. And now you know, if you're Dallas,

1167
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:44,399
Speaker 4: you're turning around, you're negotiating. And this is just such

1168
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 4: a rarity, truly a rarity in this world. That they

1169
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 4: are negotiating with no power. That doesn't usually happen in

1170
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 4: the NFL, but that is exactly what's happening to Dallas

1171
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 4: because the deal doesn't allow for them to franchise, they

1172
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:57,800
Speaker 4: can't trade. They have no power with dak at the

1173
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 4: end of this, and that happens so rarely because owners

1174
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:03,360
Speaker 4: understand if you lose the power, you're gonna have to overpay.

1175
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 4: So I'm really, I'm truly curious to see how that

1176
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 4: portion of this plays out, because they're not they're just

1177
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:12,359
Speaker 4: the worst situation you can imagine for a team.

1178
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:14,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, I give Dak a lot of credit. He's been

1179
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 2: very very quiet throughout this whole process, knowing full well

1180
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 2: that he's got the power. I mean, he's kind of

1181
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 2: by the unis right now. I mean, they need him,

1182
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 2: they want him, obviously, they need him, and they're gonna

1183
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:25,839
Speaker 2: have to pay for him, and he knows that. But

1184
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 2: you know, I'm one of those guys. I really don't

1185
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 2: like looking at the schedules prior to the season and

1186
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 2: saying this team's gonna win here, they're gonna lose there.

1187
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 2: It's a waste of time. You know, it's fun, but

1188
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:37,760
Speaker 2: I don't like doing good. But I'm taking a peak

1189
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 2: now at the Kansas City Chief schedule and there's a

1190
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 2: good chance, in my heart of hearts, the first five

1191
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 2: games they could easily be four and one. Now they

1192
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:49,280
Speaker 2: got a blockbuster on the September the fifth with Baltimore

1193
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:51,360
Speaker 2: that's at home. But after that, I think they should

1194
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 2: beat Cincinnati, Atlanta, the Chargers in New Orleans. They could

1195
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:56,280
Speaker 2: be four and one going into a bye.

1196
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 4: Colley And You're right, by the way, the schedule game

1197
00:48:59,880 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 4: is really tricky because if we're being honest, Like last

1198
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 4: year at this time, if you were looking at the

1199
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 4: schedule game and you said, you know, all right, well

1200
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:08,840
Speaker 4: they got the Texans coming up, you'd laugh at that

1201
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 4: and be like, well, that's an easy win. And we

1202
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 4: saw how that played out, right, So you just have

1203
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 4: to remember that, you know, the beauty of the NFL,

1204
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 4: the very thing that we love about it is that

1205
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 4: it is wildly unpredictable, right, So that that has to

1206
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,359
Speaker 4: play into the conversation of this. But yeah, I mean,

1207
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 4: the fact is the Chiefs, whatever we think of what

1208
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 4: happened last year, it never looked easy. Didn't pass the

1209
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 4: eye tests, as they say in college football all the time,

1210
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 4: the dreaded eye test. Didn't pass the eye test. Who cares,

1211
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 4: because if you're Kansas City, you have the best player

1212
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:38,719
Speaker 4: in the world right now. And when you have the

1213
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:40,799
Speaker 4: best player in the world, that's the true normalizer, that's

1214
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 4: the true equalizer. Everything else is just sort of irrelevant

1215
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 4: to that point because they will be able to do

1216
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 4: what they want, when they want, how they want.

1217
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:52,320
Speaker 2: You know, I'm a pretty decent listener, and I listened

1218
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:54,880
Speaker 2: to what you said in the first hour, and the

1219
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 2: question people are going to say, well, what makes Patrick

1220
00:49:56,880 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 2: Mahomes so great and why is he kind of developed

1221
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 2: this way because he wasn't that way in college. He

1222
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 2: was maybe almost an after thought really, And you hit

1223
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:07,799
Speaker 2: it right on the head when you said he came

1224
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 2: there and learned everything. Gave the credit for what he

1225
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 2: has done to his guy, to the guy who was

1226
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 2: quarterback in Kansas City, Alex Smith, you know, prior to

1227
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 2: taking over the reins, and that's a great, a great situation.

1228
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 3: And again we don't see much of that. But to

1229
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 3: be honest with.

1230
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 2: You, I mean, I just I just don't understand how

1231
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 2: he became so good so quickly, and you know, he

1232
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 2: took the NFL by storm. I mean, it's a story

1233
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 2: that really needs to be retold. I'm sure they'll do

1234
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:40,320
Speaker 2: a movie on him when he retires, an HBO special

1235
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 2: or something. But this guy, he may be the best

1236
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 2: quarterback of all time when you think about it, when

1237
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 2: it's all said and done.

1238
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's got a real shot at that. And you know,

1239
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:53,400
Speaker 4: there's no magic special sauce. I also have to remind

1240
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 4: people to this point too, And look, everybody's different, But

1241
00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 4: when I was a kid, was a little boy, when

1242
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:02,720
Speaker 4: I was a kid, if I as a young man,

1243
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 4: if you'd handed me millions of dollars, fully guaranteed, I

1244
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 4: would have probably wrecked my life. Like I just didn't

1245
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 4: know what to do with it. I wouldn't have known

1246
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:10,880
Speaker 4: what to do with it. I wouldn't have known how

1247
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 4: to react to it. It just I wasn't equipped for.

1248
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 1: It, right.

1249
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:16,959
Speaker 4: I don't think everybody knows how to handle the same

1250
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,399
Speaker 4: things the same way, and we have to just sort

1251
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 4: of remember that because it's a much different conversation for

1252
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:25,839
Speaker 4: each of these different situations, you know, like we want

1253
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 4: to sit here and apply a universal rule that we

1254
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 4: can learn from Patrick Mahomes, And I think that my

1255
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:32,919
Speaker 4: universal rule is that there is no universal rule, because

1256
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 4: you never know how somebody handles something as real as

1257
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:40,799
Speaker 4: I'm now, you know, a multimillionaire, and I can do

1258
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 4: whatever I want to do.

1259
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:42,800
Speaker 1: And I'll never forget.

1260
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:44,759
Speaker 4: A guy that was drafted by the Titans years ago,

1261
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 4: and I was asking him after he was drafted. I said,

1262
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:48,840
Speaker 4: how's it going? And he said, man, I'm really struggling

1263
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 4: to figure this out. Because when he was in college,

1264
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 4: they all went to lunch together, they went to class together,

1265
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 4: they lived and moved as a unit. And you know,

1266
00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:57,880
Speaker 4: he pointed out that when he got to the pros,

1267
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 4: it's just a bunch of adults that are not necessarily

1268
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:03,320
Speaker 4: living that way they're doing. You know, they have their families,

1269
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 4: they have their lives, they have all these other things

1270
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:07,400
Speaker 4: that matter to them. And it was a big adjustment

1271
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 4: for him. And I think we have to remember not

1272
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 4: everybody makes that adjustment the same way too. So it

1273
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 4: just is all so variable and we want to apply

1274
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 4: one rule to it. It's not the same as making

1275
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 4: spreadsheets somewhere like it just it is a it's a

1276
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:22,400
Speaker 4: different ride, it's a different life.

1277
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 2: You know, the money could really create major problems. And

1278
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 2: when I think of that, when I think of the

1279
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 2: money what it created, I think the money created a

1280
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 2: problem for Deshaun Watson. I really do because right now,

1281
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:36,719
Speaker 2: you know, he hurt his shoulder the other day in

1282
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 2: practice and he got some rust on his body going

1283
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 2: into the season. I don't honestly think he has that drive.

1284
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:46,919
Speaker 2: I think he's I don't know Deshaun Watson, I really don't.

1285
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 2: He doesn't know me, but just looking from a distance

1286
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 2: and all the money, the guaranteed money that he got,

1287
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:53,799
Speaker 2: it basically he was the first quarterback that thoughted this

1288
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:57,919
Speaker 2: quarterback craze of big time money. I don't think he's

1289
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 2: got that burning desire to prove any thing anymore. I

1290
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:02,840
Speaker 2: really don't because of the money that he has. Do

1291
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:05,359
Speaker 2: you think there's a possibility to uncorrect on that?

1292
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 4: I mean, there's something wrong, and you know, I don't

1293
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 4: know what the lack of ability comes from, but I

1294
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:14,319
Speaker 4: would say this, the Browns have a super Bowl caliber roster,

1295
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 4: which is only laughable to me because I asked at

1296
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 4: the time when he was acquired. My question to Browns

1297
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 4: fans is what would it take, you know, results on

1298
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Speaker 4: the field to justify the controversy that came with the signing.

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Speaker 4: And I'm just talking to be clear here, I'm just

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Speaker 4: talking about the football player here.

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Speaker 1: Not not the man.

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Speaker 4: So that was my question to everybody, and the answer

1303
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 4: I repeatedly got was, well, super Bowl, super at least

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00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 4: that they got at least have a run where they

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00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 4: stand a chance to the Super Bowl. Okay, well they

1306
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:42,359
Speaker 4: have that now. I think the rest of their roster

1307
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:43,839
Speaker 4: is one of the best in the league. I think

1308
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:45,840
Speaker 4: the Browns have everything it takes. I love the coach,

1309
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:48,400
Speaker 4: I love the roster, I love everything about the Browns.

1310
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 4: I think they are a super Bowl caliber team that

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00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 4: does not have a super Bowl caliber quarterback. And we've

1312
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 4: reached the spot where now the player that they brought

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00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:57,759
Speaker 4: in to help take them over the top and really

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00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 4: change the perception of the organization and get them to

1315
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:02,719
Speaker 4: that Super Bowl is I think the liability that will

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00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:06,279
Speaker 4: prevent them from winning one. And that's a staggering place to.

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Speaker 3: Be exactly right there.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he hasn't played in about three years, and

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00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 2: you know, you don't know what he's going to do

1320
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 2: when he gets on the field. And again, I just

1321
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:17,880
Speaker 2: don't think he has that desire. And then flipping the

1322
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 2: coin on that, you know, there are quarterbacks right now

1323
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:23,360
Speaker 2: who have been bouncing around in the league. On one

1324
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:26,400
Speaker 2: of them, particularly Baker Mayfield, I think he still has it.

1325
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 2: I think Baker Mayfield has that desire to say, wait

1326
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 2: a minute, you know, don't flow me out the door yet,

1327
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 2: because I got something left and he went to Tampa

1328
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:35,880
Speaker 2: and it gave him a big deal and he's their quarterback.

1329
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 2: So I think that it works in both ways. Baker

1330
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 2: Mayfield had that desire and you know, people were ready

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00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:44,360
Speaker 2: to give up on him, I think right now he's

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00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:47,440
Speaker 2: the future right now to some extent for the Tampa.

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Speaker 1: Bay Bucks Well and Baker.

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00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 4: I talked to it the Super Bowl quite a bit,

1335
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 4: and the funny thing is talking to him there, I

1336
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:56,360
Speaker 4: asked him what the biggest difference was, what clicked, and

1337
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:59,359
Speaker 4: his response was, I just have to be me now,

1338
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:00,759
Speaker 4: and he said, I don't I have the pressure of

1339
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 4: being a franchise savior.

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Speaker 1: There are no expectations.

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00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 4: I'm just coming in and I'm just playing football the

1342
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 4: way I like to play football, and I get to

1343
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 4: be myself. And I think that there is some element

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00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 4: of that that we forget. You know, there are certain

1345
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:16,280
Speaker 4: guys that in the pressure cooker, you know, don't necessarily thrive.

1346
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:19,359
Speaker 4: And what we've learned is that Baker may have been

1347
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 4: one of those, you know, like it may be just

1348
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 4: as simple as Baker needed to get somewhere where he

1349
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:26,279
Speaker 4: could just be Baker, and that version of him can

1350
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:27,840
Speaker 4: go out and be the best version of him. And

1351
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:31,760
Speaker 4: that that's just again, these human elements that we forget

1352
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:33,839
Speaker 4: about every one of these athletes. We want, we want

1353
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 4: every guy that plays in the league to fit within

1354
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 4: some cookie cutter of like I play in the league.

1355
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 4: I'm going to be the face of the franchise. Everything's

1356
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 4: going to be glorious. And I just like for everyone

1357
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:44,360
Speaker 4: listening that has kids. I don't, but if you do

1358
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:47,880
Speaker 4: have kids, ask yourself, like, how many universal rules apply

1359
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 4: to every kid in a class, And the answer to

1360
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:52,319
Speaker 4: that is none. Like I was such a different kid

1361
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:54,239
Speaker 4: than every other kid that I grew up with, you know.

1362
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 4: So it's just we just need to remember that. That's

1363
00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:00,399
Speaker 4: what's happening here for these athletes across board.

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00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:02,480
Speaker 3: You're exactly right, he's Jason Fitz.

1365
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 2: Get him on Twitter, get him an nets wherever you

1366
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:06,920
Speaker 2: want to call it, at Jason Fitz, at Andy Furman FSR,

1367
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:08,879
Speaker 2: or we'd love to hear from you. At eight seven

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Speaker 2: number four. But now we know why athletes become aloof

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00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:28,920
Speaker 2: that's next, all right, Jason Fitz is Stevie Wonder.

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Speaker 1: I love him.

1375
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 3: I don't know about you.

1376
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:32,359
Speaker 2: He's my guy, all right? This time you just can't

1377
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 2: blame the player. We'll get to that in Just About Him.

1378
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:37,240
Speaker 2: Then he is Jason Fitzit for Bucket Brooks. I'm Andy Furman,

1379
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:39,879
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1380
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Speaker 2: Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. Now, you know, we

1388
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 2: talk about athletes, and you go to a ballgame, guy

1389
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:12,360
Speaker 2: strikes out, Hey, he's a bomb, he's making ten million dollars,

1390
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:15,800
Speaker 2: he's a bumm. And I just this time I gotta

1391
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 2: defend the athlete. Not that I bang on them, well

1392
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 2: I guess I do at times, but you know that's

1393
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 2: what we do here. But this is a story that

1394
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 2: I had to scratch my head. I got to share

1395
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:26,440
Speaker 2: it with you because it's crazy, it really is. The

1396
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 2: Yankees just defended Aaron Judge. Aaron Judge is, like, you know,

1397
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 2: one of the greatest of all time. He really is.

1398
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 2: What he's been doing this year is amazing. Over sixty

1399
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 2: home runs again this year. They defended him after south

1400
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:43,120
Speaker 2: Shore Little League coach Bob Latuza criticized him for not

1401
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 2: paying enough attention to his team at the Little League

1402
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:47,920
Speaker 2: Classic on Williamsport, Pennsylvania.

1403
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 3: Hey, Latusa, you ought to be lucky the Yankees even there.

1404
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 3: Look at you and your team. It's unbelievable this guy.

1405
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 2: Laturza said that he meeting Judge and the Yankee manager

1406
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 2: Aaron Boone and pitcher Gary Cole, didn't spend enough time

1407
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:04,440
Speaker 2: looking at his team and watching his team and waving

1408
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:06,440
Speaker 2: at them at the Little League World. Are you kidding me?

1409
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:09,479
Speaker 2: Are you freaking kidding me? This guy should be thrown

1410
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 2: out of the little Are you? I read this stuff?

1411
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:14,040
Speaker 2: I had to read it twice. I can't believe it.

1412
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 2: Aaron Judge, He's always taken pictures with kids, He's always

1413
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 2: signing off of all players, of all people. You're picking

1414
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 2: on the wrong guy. You're picking on Aaron Judge. It's unreal.

1415
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 2: I couldn't believe this FITZI.

1416
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 4: Well, and this is one of the reasons why there

1417
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 4: are celebrities everywhere that just don't want to even take

1418
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:34,800
Speaker 4: the chance of spending time in those settings because you

1419
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 4: suddenly you're doing a nice thing, you're at something, you're

1420
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 4: you're involved in something, and all of a sudden, well

1421
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 4: it wasn't enough, or you know, maybe you had a

1422
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 4: little attitude or whatever, and it's like, these are the

1423
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:45,720
Speaker 4: moments that I just I don't understand it. I don't

1424
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 4: understand the win in saying anything about it. I don't

1425
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 4: understand the win. And now, if you're Aaron Judge, what's

1426
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:54,760
Speaker 4: the win in giving anybody any time? Like That's just

1427
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 4: that this is such a jaded part of society that

1428
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 4: we can be now in this world where access to

1429
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 4: celebrities is great. But then I say, well, but was

1430
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 4: it enough? And did they do enough for the kids

1431
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 4: and all this. I it's just you can't put somebody

1432
00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 4: in that lose lose situation. It's it's absolutely stupid and

1433
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:16,160
Speaker 4: shame on them for putting him in this situation.

1434
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 2: In my mind, and I understand why these athletes right now,

1435
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:20,600
Speaker 2: when they're on the road, they never go to a restaurant.

1436
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:21,800
Speaker 3: They get room service all the time.

1437
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 2: They don't want to be involved because everybody right now

1438
00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:25,960
Speaker 2: has a camera with their phone and they're going to

1439
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 2: do something. You to take a picture with somebody, you

1440
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:29,680
Speaker 2: put your arm around. The next thing you know, it's

1441
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:32,200
Speaker 2: a sexual assault. It's crazy. Really, I'm gonna give you

1442
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:34,680
Speaker 2: a story. This is crazy, and I've never shared this,

1443
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:36,840
Speaker 2: but I'm going to share it with you. As a kid,

1444
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:39,680
Speaker 2: I loved the Boston Celtics. They stayed at the Paramount

1445
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:40,840
Speaker 2: Hotel in New York City.

1446
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 3: I was a kid.

1447
00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 2: I lived in Brooklyn. I used to go to every

1448
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:45,240
Speaker 2: Celtic game. When they played the Knicks, I went up

1449
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:47,960
Speaker 2: and I went to the Paramount Hotel. I caught on

1450
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 2: the phone in the lobby, which would never happen today.

1451
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:53,600
Speaker 2: Melt Counts was playing for the Boston Celtics, a seven footer.

1452
00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 3: He let me in his room.

1453
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:57,440
Speaker 2: Think about that. I spent like an hour in mel

1454
00:59:57,520 --> 01:00:01,200
Speaker 2: Count's room. I was like, oh, maybe tenth maybe eleventh grade,

1455
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 2: whatever it was. I took the subway from Brooklyn, went

1456
01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:05,920
Speaker 2: to the Paramodt Hotel on forty sixth Street in Manhattan.

1457
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:07,760
Speaker 3: Milk Counts and I would talk and the kid.

1458
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:10,000
Speaker 2: I think he went to Oregon State milk counts and

1459
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:12,480
Speaker 2: we were talking about, you know, basketball, what do you

1460
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:14,480
Speaker 2: like to sell it? It was it was amazing, I mean,

1461
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:16,640
Speaker 2: and some guys were in and out. I think Tom

1462
01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:18,600
Speaker 2: Thacca was on the club of the team on the

1463
01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:20,160
Speaker 2: Celtics at the time. He came into the room to

1464
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 2: say hello. It was something that I'll never forget. And

1465
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:24,640
Speaker 2: you know what, it will never happen again, and it

1466
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:26,920
Speaker 2: could never happen to any kid today because there's so

1467
01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:30,160
Speaker 2: much security. I understand why. I understand why there is.

1468
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:32,560
Speaker 2: But back in the day, everything was wide open.

1469
01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:37,800
Speaker 4: It really was well and even look at Twitter, like X,

1470
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:39,440
Speaker 4: I guess this we're now supposed to call it. But

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01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:41,960
Speaker 4: if you think about what Twitter used to be like,

1472
01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:45,600
Speaker 4: there was access to people that you never had, right.

1473
01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:48,560
Speaker 4: It just it felt so different and special that you

1474
01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:51,760
Speaker 4: could tweet somebody and then a famous person would actually

1475
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:54,400
Speaker 4: tweet you back, and like the concept that you could

1476
01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:57,240
Speaker 4: make friendships and relationships with people doing it that way

1477
01:00:57,360 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 4: versus now where it's just everybody posts something that everybody

1478
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:03,280
Speaker 4: that it just becomes such a lose lose in that process,

1479
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:06,960
Speaker 4: and it's just it's it's a shame because there is

1480
01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:07,480
Speaker 4: this moment.

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01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:09,280
Speaker 1: You know, I'll go back to my music days.

1482
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:12,080
Speaker 4: If you ever watched the movie Almost Famous, you think

1483
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:14,280
Speaker 4: about what it was like back then where your tour

1484
01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:16,400
Speaker 4: in the world, and if you ran into a rock star,

1485
01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 4: it was the coolest thing that you could ever experience.

1486
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:21,320
Speaker 4: And now if you run into a rock star, the

1487
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:22,959
Speaker 4: first thing you do is you pull out your phone

1488
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:25,120
Speaker 4: and then you're putting it on social media. And God

1489
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:27,960
Speaker 4: forbid that rock star might be having a conversation with

1490
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:29,720
Speaker 4: their wife and they don't really want to sit there

1491
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:30,120
Speaker 4: and talk to you.

1492
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:32,040
Speaker 1: Right then, God forbid that that happens.

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01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:34,320
Speaker 4: You know, it's like God forbid somebody be having a

1494
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:36,200
Speaker 4: bad day. You know, these are the things that like

1495
01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:39,200
Speaker 4: nobody seems to care about anymore. And it's just it's

1496
01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:43,040
Speaker 4: wildly frustrating to me. It truly is just it's mind

1497
01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:45,640
Speaker 4: blowing to me that we put people in a lose

1498
01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:48,439
Speaker 4: lose situation and then everybody says, well, you chose fame,

1499
01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:51,640
Speaker 4: And I will remind people that that's not necessarily the case.

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01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:54,200
Speaker 4: You can choose to do something you love and it

1501
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:56,720
Speaker 4: doesn't mean that you were hungry or ever wanted fame.

1502
01:01:56,960 --> 01:01:59,960
Speaker 4: Like they're very different things you know that maybe nobody

1503
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:02,320
Speaker 4: cares about, but there's a real difference. Like there are

1504
01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:05,320
Speaker 4: actors that I know that are very successful that the

1505
01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:07,320
Speaker 4: thing they hate about their job is the fame they

1506
01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:10,360
Speaker 4: never wanted that. There are musicians I know that just

1507
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:14,560
Speaker 4: don't really particularly love people. They just love making music,

1508
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:16,880
Speaker 4: and like we don't allow that to happen. We just

1509
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:19,600
Speaker 4: turn around and say, well, action consequence, you're famous.

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01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:20,480
Speaker 1: You do this for a living.

1511
01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:22,640
Speaker 4: You know, if you and I get a hate tweet

1512
01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:25,720
Speaker 4: from somebody and I clap back to it immediately, people

1513
01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:27,640
Speaker 4: will say, well, he's soft and he has to understand

1514
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:28,640
Speaker 4: that comes with the territory.

1515
01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:29,120
Speaker 9: No, I don't.

1516
01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:31,440
Speaker 1: I never signed up for that. I signed up to

1517
01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:32,240
Speaker 1: talk about sports.

1518
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:34,840
Speaker 4: I didn't sign up to have a raging social media

1519
01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:37,320
Speaker 4: debate with some twelve year old jerk sitting behind their

1520
01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:39,920
Speaker 4: keyboard that things they can say anything about my family

1521
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:41,560
Speaker 4: simply because they have anonymity.

1522
01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:44,240
Speaker 1: Like it's just wild the way that we've gone with

1523
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:45,400
Speaker 1: all of this in society.

1524
01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:47,720
Speaker 2: It's funny you mentioned because I got a hate tweet

1525
01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:49,640
Speaker 2: about two weeks ago. I don't know who the guy

1526
01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:52,240
Speaker 2: was he put it on one of my social media deals,

1527
01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:55,160
Speaker 2: and my initial thing was I was going to just

1528
01:02:55,240 --> 01:02:57,160
Speaker 2: block him. I said, you know what, No, So I

1529
01:02:57,320 --> 01:02:58,320
Speaker 2: rolled back to him and I.

1530
01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:01,600
Speaker 3: Said, well, why would you do that? Just I'm curious.

1531
01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:03,240
Speaker 3: I mean, I would never do that to anybody.

1532
01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:03,600
Speaker 1: You know.

1533
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:06,120
Speaker 2: It was just really disgusting what he wrote about. I mean,

1534
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:08,600
Speaker 2: just every other word I couldn't even say on the radio.

1535
01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:10,440
Speaker 2: I said, why would you do that? And then I

1536
01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:12,080
Speaker 2: roll them back, have a nice day. I haven't heard

1537
01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:13,800
Speaker 2: fro him since. I still haven't blocked them. I just

1538
01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:15,720
Speaker 2: don't understand why people do that. And then you know,

1539
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:18,200
Speaker 2: taking it one step further talking about these political things.

1540
01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:19,840
Speaker 2: I don't want to go on politics. I really don't,

1541
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:22,440
Speaker 2: because no one's business. But I did watch a Democratic

1542
01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:24,720
Speaker 2: and the Republican convention, but it's history, and I wanted

1543
01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:27,480
Speaker 2: to see what's going on. And each candidate was saying that,

1544
01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 2: you know, each other, one was making the country divided.

1545
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:33,200
Speaker 3: No, they're not. Social media is dividing the country. That

1546
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:34,320
Speaker 3: people are dividing the country.

1547
01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:36,600
Speaker 2: And basically I turned the radio and wanted to hear

1548
01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:39,600
Speaker 2: talk radio and these people talking not sports, but basically

1549
01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:41,480
Speaker 2: news did divide the country.

1550
01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:42,520
Speaker 3: That's what it is.

1551
01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:45,240
Speaker 2: And social media is dividing the country. When I see

1552
01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:48,680
Speaker 2: what they write about each candidate, it's crazy. That's what's

1553
01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:51,840
Speaker 2: dividing the country, not the candidates. It's crazy. Don't you

1554
01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:52,440
Speaker 2: agree on that?

1555
01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:54,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, one hundred percent.

1556
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:57,320
Speaker 4: And that's because if we're being honest for a second,

1557
01:03:57,640 --> 01:04:01,520
Speaker 4: that's because division caused division gets Like you said earlier,

1558
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:04,120
Speaker 4: we all learned a long time ago to you know

1559
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:05,800
Speaker 4: that at some point you just got to sort of

1560
01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:08,480
Speaker 4: follow the money. And I've got you know, I've got

1561
01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:11,200
Speaker 4: close friends that work for some of the news networks,

1562
01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:13,600
Speaker 4: and if you actually sat there and had to drink

1563
01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:16,040
Speaker 4: with them, they'll tell you afterwards that they're not picking

1564
01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:18,880
Speaker 4: topics based on what they believe or what they're passionate about.

1565
01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:21,240
Speaker 4: Just like there are plenty of us in this business

1566
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:23,560
Speaker 4: that don't really care about the Lakers. But you know,

1567
01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:25,680
Speaker 4: during basketball season, they tell you play the hits, you

1568
01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:27,880
Speaker 4: got to talk about the Lakers, right, Like that's real, y'all.

1569
01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:30,400
Speaker 4: Like that there's a moment where it's like, hey, people

1570
01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:32,360
Speaker 4: care about the Lakers. They will tune into the Lakers.

1571
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:34,720
Speaker 4: So TV shows during the NBA season will talk about

1572
01:04:34,760 --> 01:04:37,920
Speaker 4: the Lakers. It's that simple. Well, it's the same in politics,

1573
01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:40,800
Speaker 4: Like they understand who gets ratings on their network, so

1574
01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:43,120
Speaker 4: they make sure that they talk about that thing because

1575
01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:46,000
Speaker 4: that gets better ratings. And that's just it's a shame

1576
01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:49,400
Speaker 4: because it creates It creates more people yelling, less people listening,

1577
01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:50,680
Speaker 4: and that creates more division.

1578
01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:53,120
Speaker 2: Well, why don't we talk about the NFL? It moves

1579
01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:55,160
Speaker 2: to needles? What do we talk about college football? I mean,

1580
01:04:55,320 --> 01:04:57,840
Speaker 2: you know, and I do like it. I like college football.

1581
01:04:57,880 --> 01:05:00,560
Speaker 2: I like the NFL, I like the NBA. But we

1582
01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:02,880
Speaker 2: don't talk about NHL. We never talk about MLS, and

1583
01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:05,080
Speaker 2: we don't talk about maybe a little bit the NBA

1584
01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:08,240
Speaker 2: WNBA right now. But it's all about football. We talk

1585
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:10,240
Speaker 2: about what moves the needle, and what moves the needle

1586
01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:13,160
Speaker 2: is football. And honestly, at a twelve month period on

1587
01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:16,200
Speaker 2: sports talk radio nationwide or even on the local basis,

1588
01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:18,560
Speaker 2: I would say ten out of the twelve months is

1589
01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:21,840
Speaker 2: basically football, it really, And they have something cooking anyway

1590
01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:23,920
Speaker 2: every throughout ten months they do.

1591
01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:25,160
Speaker 3: There's always news.

1592
01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:28,960
Speaker 4: Well, and man, I'm the first to admit, like back

1593
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:31,680
Speaker 4: when I was doing my first ESPN radio show, Sarah

1594
01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:33,640
Speaker 4: Spain and I used to talk about the WNBA all

1595
01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:36,400
Speaker 4: the time, and we would go into coaching sessions with

1596
01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:39,920
Speaker 4: our radio bosses and the first question people would ask

1597
01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:40,880
Speaker 4: you is, why are you talking about this?

1598
01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:41,520
Speaker 1: Nobody cares.

1599
01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:44,960
Speaker 4: Nobody cares now because people care about Caitlin Clark. Now

1600
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:47,000
Speaker 4: it's hey, guys, got to talk about the WNBA like

1601
01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:49,480
Speaker 4: that's all that's all real, and that's what happens across

1602
01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:51,680
Speaker 4: the board. Like I mean, I realize I'm sort of

1603
01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:54,640
Speaker 4: getting into how the soup is made here, but that's

1604
01:05:54,680 --> 01:05:56,400
Speaker 4: what happens all the way across the board.

1605
01:05:56,440 --> 01:05:58,000
Speaker 1: For all of us to do this is a living

1606
01:05:58,120 --> 01:06:01,040
Speaker 1: like it's just that that's very real, no doubt about that.

1607
01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:02,040
Speaker 1: He's very real.

1608
01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:04,600
Speaker 2: He's Jason Fitz and Footbucket Brooks on Andy Furman. We

1609
01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:07,320
Speaker 2: have Fox Sports Sunday. Oh Fox Butt's ready. The question

1610
01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:10,880
Speaker 2: is does the punishment fit the crime? That's coming up

1611
01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:13,320
Speaker 2: next live from the Tirack dot Com studios. But first,

1612
01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:15,560
Speaker 2: let's not punish this guy. He's a good friend, he

1613
01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:17,880
Speaker 2: really is. Kevin Wi Never a punishment.

1614
01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:17,960
Speaker 1: On this show.

1615
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:20,440
Speaker 3: It's always a pleasure. No, always a pleasure.

1616
01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:23,400
Speaker 7: In the college football though, man, we got week zero

1617
01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:26,760
Speaker 7: already starting on Saturday, we already got a top ten upset.

1618
01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:31,439
Speaker 7: Man college football is back already Georgia Tech Florida State

1619
01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:35,640
Speaker 7: beginning the season in at Dublin, Ireland. And it's the

1620
01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:39,840
Speaker 7: Yellow Jackets coming away from the Emond Isle with the victory.

1621
01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:41,920
Speaker 3: It's tumbling, it's turning.

1622
01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:42,640
Speaker 10: It is.

1623
01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:49,040
Speaker 1: The horn, get the luck of the Iris.

1624
01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:51,600
Speaker 9: It's the heart of the Jackets.

1625
01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:54,520
Speaker 11: At Georgia Tech knocks the number.

1626
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:55,320
Speaker 1: Ten foot to State.

1627
01:06:56,160 --> 01:06:59,160
Speaker 7: Carl Curtesy of the Georgia Tech Sports Network and lear

1628
01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:03,120
Speaker 7: Field as they Yellowjackets upsetting the tenth rank Seminoles twenty

1629
01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:06,439
Speaker 7: four to twenty one on that last second forty four

1630
01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:10,800
Speaker 7: yard field goal. The last time the Leellowjackets scored a

1631
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:15,640
Speaker 7: top ten victory was back in twenty fifteen against Florida State.

1632
01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:20,880
Speaker 7: So history repeating itself on a Saturday elsewhere in college football,

1633
01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:25,440
Speaker 7: SMU getting the comeback win against Nevada sixteen points late

1634
01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:27,120
Speaker 7: in the fourth quarter to get a twenty nine to

1635
01:07:27,160 --> 01:07:31,560
Speaker 7: twenty four victory. Montana State the first fcsover FBS upset

1636
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:35,200
Speaker 7: of the season. New Mexico is the victim thirty five

1637
01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:37,640
Speaker 7: to thirty one. Montana State wins it, and the late

1638
01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:43,120
Speaker 7: game out in Honolulu is Hawaii defeating Delaware State thirty

1639
01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:47,560
Speaker 7: five to fourteen. Little League World Series, The championship game

1640
01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:51,920
Speaker 7: set for this afternoon three o'clock Eastern time. Over in

1641
01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:56,960
Speaker 7: Williams Portal feature Taiwan and Florida. In a Major League

1642
01:07:57,000 --> 01:07:59,720
Speaker 7: Baseball last night, the Dodgers get their five game winning

1643
01:07:59,720 --> 01:08:02,600
Speaker 7: streatt snapped as the Rays get home runs both of

1644
01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:05,200
Speaker 7: the ninth and tenth innings to win in Los Angeles

1645
01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:08,760
Speaker 7: nine to eight. Arizona on fire, the Diamondbacks have won

1646
01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:12,080
Speaker 7: five straight games, including a four to one win at Boston.

1647
01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:14,320
Speaker 7: The Padres do lose to the Mets seven to one,

1648
01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:18,240
Speaker 7: but LA's lead in the division right now sits at

1649
01:08:18,760 --> 01:08:21,320
Speaker 7: three games. They are four and a half ahead right

1650
01:08:21,360 --> 01:08:25,920
Speaker 7: now of San Diego. In that American League. At Central,

1651
01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:28,680
Speaker 7: the Guardians have a two game lead. They demolish the

1652
01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:31,680
Speaker 7: Texas Rangers thirteen to five. Minnesota keeps pace with a

1653
01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:35,320
Speaker 7: six to nothing win against the Cardinals. The Royals do lose, however,

1654
01:08:35,400 --> 01:08:37,559
Speaker 7: the Phillies eleven to two behind a couple of home

1655
01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:40,599
Speaker 7: runs from JT. Real Mutos. So Cleveland right now ahead

1656
01:08:41,240 --> 01:08:45,400
Speaker 7: of Minnesota and Kansas City by two games for both

1657
01:08:45,439 --> 01:08:48,760
Speaker 7: of them. In the American League Central Al leads. That's

1658
01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:51,080
Speaker 7: a tight division, and once again it's just a half

1659
01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:54,000
Speaker 7: game lead for the Yankees. They get up ended by

1660
01:08:54,040 --> 01:08:58,679
Speaker 7: the Colorado Rockies on on Saturday nine to two, while

1661
01:08:58,920 --> 01:09:02,880
Speaker 7: Baltimore they do win against the Astros three to two,

1662
01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:06,120
Speaker 7: and in the WNBA, Caitlin Clark in action twenty three

1663
01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:08,560
Speaker 7: points eight assists of the Fever do lose to Minnesota

1664
01:09:09,160 --> 01:09:10,200
Speaker 7: ninety to eighty.

1665
01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:12,479
Speaker 2: Back to you guys, Thanks, kevsee in an hour now.

1666
01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:14,600
Speaker 2: It's a slap on the wrist and it's worth it.

1667
01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:16,720
Speaker 2: We'll get to that in just about a minute. He's

1668
01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:19,280
Speaker 2: Jason Fitz. I'm Andy Fermer. We have Fox Sports Sunday

1669
01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:21,639
Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Ready and we have Botta Barol betting

1670
01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:23,920
Speaker 2: coming up at about six seven minutes from now, but

1671
01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:27,000
Speaker 2: shortly after the show, our podcast will be going up.

1672
01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:29,240
Speaker 2: If you missed any of today's show, be sure to

1673
01:09:29,320 --> 01:09:32,000
Speaker 2: check out the podcast. Just search Fox Sports Ready wherever

1674
01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:35,000
Speaker 2: you get your podcasts. I'd be sure to also follow

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01:09:35,360 --> 01:09:38,160
Speaker 2: rate and review the podcast. Again, just search Fox Sports

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01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:40,400
Speaker 2: Ready wherever you get your podcast. You'll see this show

1677
01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:43,439
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday with Jason fitz right after we get

1678
01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:46,479
Speaker 2: off the air. Now, we got this thing over going

1679
01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:51,680
Speaker 2: with Iwood football coach Gert Ferrens Okay and his assistant

1680
01:09:52,160 --> 01:09:53,040
Speaker 2: John Budmar.

1681
01:09:53,439 --> 01:09:55,240
Speaker 3: They're gonna be suspended for one game.

1682
01:09:55,400 --> 01:09:58,599
Speaker 2: Why, for violation related to recruitment of the transfit quarterback

1683
01:09:58,800 --> 01:09:59,640
Speaker 2: Kate McNamara.

1684
01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:02,560
Speaker 3: One game. And I read this, I said, you know,

1685
01:10:03,479 --> 01:10:05,599
Speaker 3: it's not bad. Really, it's a slap on the risk.

1686
01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:08,120
Speaker 2: I'd be willing to be suspended for a game to

1687
01:10:08,240 --> 01:10:09,679
Speaker 2: recruit a top notch quarterback.

1688
01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:10,720
Speaker 3: Now, either going to.

1689
01:10:10,760 --> 01:10:13,519
Speaker 2: Punish the guy and make him pay because he's doing

1690
01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:15,879
Speaker 2: something he shouldn't be doing. I'm not saying it's illegal,

1691
01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:18,519
Speaker 2: but it's against the rules, or just give him that

1692
01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:19,960
Speaker 2: slap on the wrist and he's going to keep on

1693
01:10:20,080 --> 01:10:22,920
Speaker 2: doing it. Really, I don't see what the punishment fits

1694
01:10:22,960 --> 01:10:23,600
Speaker 2: the crime on this.

1695
01:10:23,680 --> 01:10:24,320
Speaker 3: I really don't.

1696
01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:28,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, look, if you're telling me that I got to

1697
01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:31,360
Speaker 4: take a one game, especially if I'm Iowa, a little

1698
01:10:31,400 --> 01:10:31,960
Speaker 4: context here.

1699
01:10:32,040 --> 01:10:33,520
Speaker 1: Let's remember that the Iowa.

1700
01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:35,960
Speaker 4: Offense has been so bad for so long that if

1701
01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:38,360
Speaker 4: you're telling me that as an Iowa fan, my head

1702
01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:40,400
Speaker 4: coach is gonna have to take a one game suspension,

1703
01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:42,160
Speaker 4: but it might give us a shot at an answer

1704
01:10:42,160 --> 01:10:42,719
Speaker 4: to the quarterback.

1705
01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:44,559
Speaker 1: I'd pay that penalty all day, every day. They've got

1706
01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:45,640
Speaker 1: a problem, how you know what it is?

1707
01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:47,760
Speaker 3: They're allergic to the end zone. That's what it is.

1708
01:10:47,960 --> 01:10:51,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're not wrong. And look if this helped solve that,

1709
01:10:51,439 --> 01:10:55,240
Speaker 4: then like who cares? I mean, realistically, who cares about

1710
01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:58,360
Speaker 4: a one game suspension if you're Iowa at this point.

1711
01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:01,880
Speaker 4: If it gives you an answer quarterback, that's all that matters.

1712
01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:05,040
Speaker 4: And look, this is where college football and the NFL

1713
01:11:05,080 --> 01:11:06,680
Speaker 4: are going to become more and more similar to like,

1714
01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:08,439
Speaker 4: how do you win if you don't have at least

1715
01:11:08,479 --> 01:11:10,000
Speaker 4: somebody that can help you generate points?

1716
01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:12,439
Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, and you need a quarterback.

1717
01:11:12,520 --> 01:11:15,599
Speaker 4: So if you're Iowa, that's just dealt with this for years,

1718
01:11:15,640 --> 01:11:17,479
Speaker 4: and now you're dealing with it in a big ten

1719
01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:19,840
Speaker 4: that's tougher than ever, and you realize that your fan

1720
01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:21,400
Speaker 4: base is going to rite if you don't at some

1721
01:11:21,479 --> 01:11:24,880
Speaker 4: point figure out how to score some points. This is

1722
01:11:24,920 --> 01:11:27,520
Speaker 4: a smart business move. I mean I take this ten

1723
01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:28,200
Speaker 4: times out of ten.

1724
01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:31,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, And Kate mcnamart he committed to Iowa back on

1725
01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:33,599
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two. That was three days after he entered

1726
01:11:33,640 --> 01:11:36,639
Speaker 2: the portal as a graduate transfer. He started from Michigan

1727
01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:38,559
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty one. The team won the Big Ten

1728
01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:40,680
Speaker 2: and they reached the college football players, but he had

1729
01:11:40,720 --> 01:11:42,800
Speaker 2: that leg injury in the third game of the twenty

1730
01:11:42,880 --> 01:11:45,680
Speaker 2: twenty two seasons. So look, I understand why Iowa went

1731
01:11:45,720 --> 01:11:47,639
Speaker 2: after him. They need a quarterback. They want a quarterback.

1732
01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:49,960
Speaker 2: They can't score. But you know, you talk about what's

1733
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:52,360
Speaker 2: going on right now as far as college is concerned,

1734
01:11:52,360 --> 01:11:54,639
Speaker 2: at least in the pros. These guys have a contract

1735
01:11:54,680 --> 01:11:57,000
Speaker 2: and you can control them. You can't control the players

1736
01:11:57,080 --> 01:11:59,080
Speaker 2: right now. I'm not saying it's good. I'm not saying

1737
01:11:59,080 --> 01:11:59,479
Speaker 2: it's bad.

1738
01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:02,040
Speaker 3: Just the way it is. You can't control players.

1739
01:12:02,040 --> 01:12:04,400
Speaker 2: I've seen players right now playing six seven years in

1740
01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:06,600
Speaker 2: college football. You know what, You've got to college for

1741
01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:08,800
Speaker 2: seven years? You know why, to be a doctor, not

1742
01:12:08,920 --> 01:12:11,120
Speaker 2: to play football. That's what you're going to college for

1743
01:12:11,320 --> 01:12:14,519
Speaker 2: for seven eight years. It's unbelievable, really, it's crazy.

1744
01:12:15,439 --> 01:12:17,760
Speaker 4: The funny part about that, though, is like they're never

1745
01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:20,679
Speaker 4: gonna regain control of the actual kids.

1746
01:12:21,200 --> 01:12:22,839
Speaker 1: I can't say this loud enough anything.

1747
01:12:23,040 --> 01:12:26,560
Speaker 4: Now that the NCAA tries to do to limit the

1748
01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:28,960
Speaker 4: ability of kids to make money, or the limit the

1749
01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:31,040
Speaker 4: ability the kids to stay in or limit the ability

1750
01:12:31,080 --> 01:12:33,040
Speaker 4: of kids in general, is going to be challenged in

1751
01:12:33,080 --> 01:12:35,120
Speaker 4: court and they're gonna lose. Like that's just that every

1752
01:12:35,200 --> 01:12:37,719
Speaker 4: time so far they've been challenged in court, they've lost.

1753
01:12:37,800 --> 01:12:38,840
Speaker 1: This is not rocket science.

1754
01:12:38,920 --> 01:12:41,240
Speaker 4: So what the NCAA needs to focus on now is

1755
01:12:41,320 --> 01:12:45,519
Speaker 4: finding rules within their NCAA partners that don't specifically limit

1756
01:12:45,560 --> 01:12:45,880
Speaker 4: the kids.

1757
01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:48,480
Speaker 1: They're gonna they're gonna have to genuinely figure.

1758
01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:50,880
Speaker 4: Out some sort of a salary cap structure, some sort

1759
01:12:50,920 --> 01:12:53,320
Speaker 4: of a way that they can turn around and hold them,

1760
01:12:53,560 --> 01:12:56,560
Speaker 4: hold the entire NCAA to a higher standard, but in

1761
01:12:56,640 --> 01:12:58,599
Speaker 4: a way that is not gonna get legally challenged.

1762
01:12:58,640 --> 01:12:59,880
Speaker 1: That's easier said than done.

1763
01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:02,519
Speaker 4: And like that is just for everybody that's freaking out,

1764
01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:05,120
Speaker 4: like I would just it's easier said than done to

1765
01:13:05,160 --> 01:13:07,360
Speaker 4: put the toothpaste back in the pay in the tube.

1766
01:13:07,400 --> 01:13:09,600
Speaker 4: At this point, I think the NCAA is gonna have

1767
01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:11,640
Speaker 4: to figure out more creative solutions.

1768
01:13:11,479 --> 01:13:12,839
Speaker 1: And yeah, this is the new reality.

1769
01:13:12,960 --> 01:13:15,600
Speaker 4: And also I think it's gonna we're gonna see it

1770
01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:17,559
Speaker 4: in the college football playoff, Like what do you want?

1771
01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:19,720
Speaker 4: If you're Oregon, you have Dylan Gabriel, who's played a

1772
01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:23,400
Speaker 4: lot of college football right now, he's your quarterback. Right Well,

1773
01:13:23,439 --> 01:13:25,439
Speaker 4: if I got one playoff game, and I got the

1774
01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:27,920
Speaker 4: choice in that one playoff game between a kid that

1775
01:13:28,240 --> 01:13:31,120
Speaker 4: is eight months removed from a promposal or a kid

1776
01:13:31,200 --> 01:13:34,040
Speaker 4: that has, you know, spent his the last seven years

1777
01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:36,400
Speaker 4: in college football, I want that seven year kid, Like,

1778
01:13:36,439 --> 01:13:38,120
Speaker 4: I'm going to have a better shot at winning that

1779
01:13:38,240 --> 01:13:41,360
Speaker 4: game with a seven year kid that's that's got some experience,

1780
01:13:41,439 --> 01:13:42,559
Speaker 4: it knows what's in front of him.

1781
01:13:42,640 --> 01:13:44,400
Speaker 1: So I think we're gonna see more and more of this,

1782
01:13:44,520 --> 01:13:45,320
Speaker 1: not less and less.

1783
01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:47,960
Speaker 2: I want to know who loses more the NC double

1784
01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:49,320
Speaker 2: Ago to Chicago White Sox.

1785
01:13:49,400 --> 01:13:49,880
Speaker 1: I want to know.

1786
01:13:50,120 --> 01:13:52,080
Speaker 3: Really, it's amazing.

1787
01:13:52,160 --> 01:13:56,639
Speaker 2: I mean it's Look, I think the concept of athletes

1788
01:13:56,720 --> 01:13:59,800
Speaker 2: getting paid what was excellent? Why they bring this this

1789
01:14:00,200 --> 01:14:02,439
Speaker 2: h they're the workers. You tell me what business where

1790
01:14:02,439 --> 01:14:04,840
Speaker 2: workers don't get paid. First of all, they give the

1791
01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:07,519
Speaker 2: team exposure, they get the school exposure, they increase enrollment,

1792
01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:10,200
Speaker 2: They saw merchandise that do everything for the school. They're

1793
01:14:10,200 --> 01:14:12,200
Speaker 2: working their butts off or practice, whatever it may be.

1794
01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:15,360
Speaker 2: They deserve to be paid. But should they be paid

1795
01:14:15,400 --> 01:14:18,120
Speaker 2: by the school, should they be paid paid by by boosters?

1796
01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:19,840
Speaker 2: I mean that's the problem. And how much should they

1797
01:14:19,880 --> 01:14:22,080
Speaker 2: get paid? What sports should get paid? And honestly, the

1798
01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:24,800
Speaker 2: ritual always get richer. That's the problem. That's what it's

1799
01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:26,720
Speaker 2: always been about. They got to fix it, they really do.

1800
01:14:26,760 --> 01:14:29,800
Speaker 2: It's getting ugly. But IOWA keep on getting suspended for

1801
01:14:29,880 --> 01:14:31,799
Speaker 2: a game, for a game for a quarterback.

1802
01:14:31,880 --> 01:14:34,080
Speaker 3: I do it any day of a week, any data week.

1803
01:14:34,439 --> 01:14:35,080
Speaker 1: How do you like that?

1804
01:14:35,640 --> 01:14:38,280
Speaker 3: He's Jason Fitz. I'm Andy Ferman. We are Fox Sports

1805
01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:40,080
Speaker 3: Sunday on Fox Sports.

1806
01:14:40,160 --> 01:14:40,360
Speaker 1: Ready.

1807
01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:43,479
Speaker 2: It's a game of chance as well as luck. We

1808
01:14:43,640 --> 01:14:45,800
Speaker 2: call it bottom barrel betting. And you know what, it's

1809
01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:49,280
Speaker 2: freaking next bottom barrel betting right around the ben. He's

1810
01:14:49,360 --> 01:14:52,240
Speaker 2: Jason Fitz. I'm Andy Furman. We are Fox Sports Sunday

1811
01:14:52,280 --> 01:14:54,680
Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Ready. About twelve minutes now before the

1812
01:14:54,760 --> 01:14:56,320
Speaker 2: top of the Iowa a live from the ti iraq

1813
01:14:56,400 --> 01:14:57,240
Speaker 2: dot com studios.

1814
01:14:57,360 --> 01:14:59,320
Speaker 3: But we got a game to play. Let's play it.

1815
01:15:00,120 --> 01:15:05,120
Speaker 1: Maybe it's bottom late. Wanted to sleep people, get my money.

1816
01:15:05,120 --> 01:15:06,360
Speaker 4: I'll put your brain to sleep.

1817
01:15:06,439 --> 01:15:07,760
Speaker 1: Betting, Yes we do.

1818
01:15:07,960 --> 01:15:09,720
Speaker 3: Here's Shay shed to get a gold shay shee.

1819
01:15:09,800 --> 01:15:11,760
Speaker 2: Maybe I got a live one here, maybe I could

1820
01:15:11,840 --> 01:15:13,720
Speaker 2: beat Maybe I could beat fifty three.

1821
01:15:13,840 --> 01:15:18,439
Speaker 8: Maybe maybe maybe maybe Ever I was alf for with Fitzie,

1822
01:15:18,439 --> 01:15:19,960
Speaker 8: and I know he's a good better so maybe he

1823
01:15:20,080 --> 01:15:21,000
Speaker 8: knows some of these games.

1824
01:15:21,280 --> 01:15:23,400
Speaker 1: Ye wasn't yesterday? Good by.

1825
01:15:25,600 --> 01:15:27,760
Speaker 8: To any new listeners out there. This is a game

1826
01:15:27,800 --> 01:15:32,479
Speaker 8: where I basically find random lines from random betting sites,

1827
01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:36,080
Speaker 8: from random games, and I'll basically give them to both

1828
01:15:36,200 --> 01:15:40,479
Speaker 8: Chasing and Andy and they'll give me their thoughts. So

1829
01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:42,800
Speaker 8: we're gonna go right into this, but before what happened

1830
01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:47,679
Speaker 8: last week, before I get right into it. Last week, Andy,

1831
01:15:48,360 --> 01:15:51,760
Speaker 8: you lost. It was three, It was three to two,

1832
01:15:52,760 --> 01:15:55,880
Speaker 8: giving Bucky seventy six, and you Andy to sixty. So

1833
01:15:55,960 --> 01:15:58,639
Speaker 8: you broke sixty. Are you excited about that? That's something want?

1834
01:15:59,360 --> 01:16:01,400
Speaker 3: With the NFL, Jesus still to be stilled fresh again.

1835
01:16:01,400 --> 01:16:03,320
Speaker 8: We're gonna start fresh again, which is in two weeks,

1836
01:16:03,479 --> 01:16:04,720
Speaker 8: more less than two weeks.

1837
01:16:04,479 --> 01:16:08,439
Speaker 1: So that's pretty convenient. Exactly, yeah, exactly, thank you.

1838
01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:12,280
Speaker 8: But we'll have Jason filling in for Bucky today and

1839
01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:16,040
Speaker 8: he will definitely hopefully fill some big shoes. So let's see,

1840
01:16:16,120 --> 01:16:18,680
Speaker 8: let's get right into the first one in the Ukrainian

1841
01:16:18,800 --> 01:16:23,679
Speaker 8: table Tennis Cup, Pavel Laverne is taking on Roman Poeman

1842
01:16:23,800 --> 01:16:25,960
Speaker 8: today at six am Pacific Standard time. If you guys

1843
01:16:25,960 --> 01:16:29,120
Speaker 8: want to go watch some Ukrainian table tennis. Pavel is

1844
01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:31,760
Speaker 8: even while Roman is minus one forty. Who do you

1845
01:16:31,840 --> 01:16:32,400
Speaker 8: guys got.

1846
01:16:33,080 --> 01:16:35,599
Speaker 3: We'll lift the visit a goal first boost to fits.

1847
01:16:35,640 --> 01:16:37,920
Speaker 1: Okay, this one's simple. What was the second guy's name? Roman?

1848
01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:38,040
Speaker 2: What?

1849
01:16:38,320 --> 01:16:39,160
Speaker 8: Roman Pomene?

1850
01:16:40,320 --> 01:16:42,320
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say Roman Poeman because I like that better

1851
01:16:42,479 --> 01:16:43,479
Speaker 4: and that feels chantable.

1852
01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:47,439
Speaker 1: Roman pullman. It does, so I'm going with him. It's all.

1853
01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:53,080
Speaker 3: Roman was the first guy's name? Begin, Pavel Laverne, Pavel Pavela.

1854
01:16:53,520 --> 01:16:56,960
Speaker 2: I'll go with Pavel because anybody who's got that name's

1855
01:16:56,960 --> 01:16:58,479
Speaker 2: got to go into that sport because you can't do

1856
01:16:58,560 --> 01:16:59,080
Speaker 2: anything else.

1857
01:16:59,800 --> 01:17:03,360
Speaker 8: You might be right about that in the In the

1858
01:17:03,439 --> 01:17:07,320
Speaker 8: next one, we got the Badminton Japan Open. It's the

1859
01:17:07,439 --> 01:17:14,280
Speaker 8: women's singles. Busar is taking on a Caine. In just

1860
01:17:14,360 --> 01:17:16,960
Speaker 8: a couple of minutes. Here, Busar is plus five point

1861
01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:20,200
Speaker 8: fifty while Akane is minus one thousand, one hundred to win.

1862
01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:22,240
Speaker 1: Do happen?

1863
01:17:22,600 --> 01:17:26,160
Speaker 2: But okay, let's I want a Caine was that one word.

1864
01:17:26,280 --> 01:17:28,880
Speaker 2: Is it a kine or is it akine? A caine

1865
01:17:29,040 --> 01:17:32,080
Speaker 2: A caine, not like a chain A caine a caine. Okay,

1866
01:17:32,360 --> 01:17:33,639
Speaker 2: got it, Jason?

1867
01:17:33,920 --> 01:17:35,639
Speaker 1: All Right, so you're going with the caine, then I'm

1868
01:17:35,680 --> 01:17:36,360
Speaker 1: going with the other one.

1869
01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:36,760
Speaker 2: Like this.

1870
01:17:36,920 --> 01:17:38,920
Speaker 1: That that's just I got to know what was the

1871
01:17:38,960 --> 01:17:39,439
Speaker 1: other one again?

1872
01:17:39,479 --> 01:17:42,920
Speaker 4: I just bosar awkwardly trying it Busar, Okay. I always

1873
01:17:43,000 --> 01:17:46,799
Speaker 4: liked Mike Broussard, Right.

1874
01:17:46,760 --> 01:17:47,839
Speaker 3: These are easier Busar.

1875
01:17:48,040 --> 01:17:52,080
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's too so. But these are easy names if

1876
01:17:52,080 --> 01:17:53,559
Speaker 8: you If you don't believe it, Jason, some of these

1877
01:17:53,600 --> 01:17:56,519
Speaker 8: names are crazy that I find. But on to the

1878
01:17:56,560 --> 01:17:56,880
Speaker 8: next one.

1879
01:17:56,880 --> 01:17:59,080
Speaker 1: I do believe that, but I'm also kind of curious

1880
01:17:59,120 --> 01:17:59,880
Speaker 1: why you puts yourself in that.

1881
01:18:01,920 --> 01:18:04,880
Speaker 8: In the Little League World Series, Venezuela is taking on

1882
01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:08,320
Speaker 8: Texas today at seven am Pacific Standard time. Venezuela is

1883
01:18:08,360 --> 01:18:11,320
Speaker 8: minus five hundred while Texas is plus three fifty. But

1884
01:18:11,439 --> 01:18:12,840
Speaker 8: you guys, got Jason, I'll start with you.

1885
01:18:13,640 --> 01:18:15,960
Speaker 4: Everything's better in Texas. I mean, I'm taking the plus

1886
01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:18,160
Speaker 4: three fifty plus money. I'm always gonna bet on Texas.

1887
01:18:18,240 --> 01:18:18,559
Speaker 1: Let's come.

1888
01:18:18,680 --> 01:18:19,320
Speaker 8: They're slamming it.

1889
01:18:19,560 --> 01:18:21,360
Speaker 2: Play's the USA kind of guy. But you know what,

1890
01:18:21,439 --> 01:18:23,479
Speaker 2: don going with Venezuela because I think they're hungry. I

1891
01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:25,479
Speaker 2: think those kids really look at the major leagues and

1892
01:18:25,479 --> 01:18:27,920
Speaker 2: they want to be there one day. So Texas, they're fat.

1893
01:18:28,000 --> 01:18:30,680
Speaker 2: Their daddy's got money, he's an oil guy. I'm going

1894
01:18:30,680 --> 01:18:31,400
Speaker 2: with Venezuela.

1895
01:18:32,320 --> 01:18:32,720
Speaker 9: I like it.

1896
01:18:32,800 --> 01:18:32,960
Speaker 1: Guys.

1897
01:18:33,040 --> 01:18:34,960
Speaker 8: It looks like we're splitting every game here, So this

1898
01:18:35,080 --> 01:18:37,080
Speaker 8: is this is gonna be good. So off to the

1899
01:18:37,200 --> 01:18:40,880
Speaker 8: twenty twenty four sinq Field Cup, which is actually a

1900
01:18:41,760 --> 01:18:44,559
Speaker 8: it's a chess It's a chess tournament that's hosted annually

1901
01:18:44,640 --> 01:18:47,519
Speaker 8: by the Saint Louis Chess Club. And get this, the

1902
01:18:47,640 --> 01:18:50,720
Speaker 8: prize fund is three hundred and fifty thousand dollars. So

1903
01:18:51,320 --> 01:18:52,479
Speaker 8: for chess, for chess.

1904
01:18:52,640 --> 01:18:54,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like games that you don't sweat and you

1905
01:18:54,680 --> 01:18:56,479
Speaker 3: can sit on your ass. Yeah, that's what I like.

1906
01:18:56,640 --> 01:18:58,760
Speaker 8: We're in the wrong, We're in the wrong career. Let's

1907
01:18:58,800 --> 01:19:02,679
Speaker 8: just say that, guys, Wesley so is taking on Ali

1908
01:19:02,800 --> 01:19:06,960
Speaker 8: Reza Firiza today at eleven am Pacific Standard time. Wesley

1909
01:19:07,080 --> 01:19:10,960
Speaker 8: is plus three fifty while Ali Reza is plus nine hundred.

1910
01:19:12,320 --> 01:19:12,439
Speaker 2: Am.

1911
01:19:12,520 --> 01:19:14,280
Speaker 8: I Andy, you are up.

1912
01:19:14,479 --> 01:19:17,759
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with Ali Reza. Ali because Ali ress

1913
01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:18,759
Speaker 2: is that his middle.

1914
01:19:18,600 --> 01:19:20,840
Speaker 8: Name, Well, that's his list, that's his full first name.

1915
01:19:21,600 --> 01:19:23,920
Speaker 2: They'll definitely going And anybody's got a name like that

1916
01:19:24,400 --> 01:19:26,759
Speaker 2: big time, all right. He probably has his own cape,

1917
01:19:27,080 --> 01:19:28,920
Speaker 2: like you know, with these boxes, come up with a cape.

1918
01:19:29,000 --> 01:19:31,960
Speaker 2: I bet he's got a cape. Before he takes his right,

1919
01:19:32,600 --> 01:19:33,320
Speaker 2: he's got a cape.

1920
01:19:33,360 --> 01:19:34,000
Speaker 3: Ali REGI.

1921
01:19:35,720 --> 01:19:37,800
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go with Ali Reza too, just because that's

1922
01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:40,400
Speaker 4: a fun name to say. And that's this is how

1923
01:19:40,400 --> 01:19:42,639
Speaker 4: we're making these determinations at this point. It's all about

1924
01:19:42,640 --> 01:19:43,479
Speaker 4: fun names to say.

1925
01:19:43,960 --> 01:19:44,400
Speaker 1: I like that.

1926
01:19:44,560 --> 01:19:46,519
Speaker 2: I like I'm just happy that Jason's never heard of

1927
01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:48,320
Speaker 2: these sports and know these guys.

1928
01:19:48,640 --> 01:19:51,960
Speaker 3: I'm please believe me. Well, let's get into this next one.

1929
01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:53,920
Speaker 8: Maybe you guys might know this one off to the

1930
01:19:54,080 --> 01:19:59,960
Speaker 8: Philippines for the Philipino Basketball Association Governor's Cup. These names,

1931
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:02,800
Speaker 8: they are a little bit easier. The nl EX road

1932
01:20:02,880 --> 01:20:06,400
Speaker 8: Warriors are on the road taking on the Phoenix fuel

1933
01:20:06,439 --> 01:20:10,479
Speaker 8: Masters right now. The road Warriors are plus one oh

1934
01:20:10,600 --> 01:20:13,160
Speaker 8: five while the fuel Masters are minus one point fifty.

1935
01:20:13,200 --> 01:20:15,439
Speaker 8: Who do you guys got Who's Jason?

1936
01:20:16,240 --> 01:20:18,240
Speaker 4: I mean, look, anytime you give me the option for

1937
01:20:18,360 --> 01:20:20,600
Speaker 4: road Warriors, I go road Warriors. That's just gonna be

1938
01:20:20,640 --> 01:20:23,519
Speaker 4: the way that that happens. So I mean eighties wrestling

1939
01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:24,599
Speaker 4: kidding me, I'm going Road.

1940
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Speaker 1: Warriors, you know what.

1941
01:20:26,760 --> 01:20:28,360
Speaker 2: I was gonna go that way because I thought they

1942
01:20:28,400 --> 01:20:31,280
Speaker 2: may be a derivative of the Golden State Warriors.

1943
01:20:31,360 --> 01:20:33,479
Speaker 3: But you know what, I'm not doing it because Jason

1944
01:20:33,520 --> 01:20:35,040
Speaker 3: has it. I would not do it. I'm not gonna

1945
01:20:35,040 --> 01:20:36,360
Speaker 3: favor him. I'm not going to this corner.

1946
01:20:36,560 --> 01:20:39,000
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with the Phoenix Fuel Masters, Phoenix fuel

1947
01:20:39,040 --> 01:20:39,600
Speaker 2: Misters for me.

1948
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Speaker 1: There we go.

1949
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Speaker 3: All right, sweet, that's it.

1950
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Speaker 1: That's it.

1951
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Speaker 2: Conclude the Room of Cooper Stole for him. We'll do

1952
01:20:45,160 --> 01:20:49,000
Speaker 2: that next right here on Fox Sports Sunday. Hash he

1953
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Speaker 2: done enough, that's coming right up. Good morning, everybody. This

1954
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Speaker 2: is Fox Sports Sunday and Fox Sports right. He's Jason

1955
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Speaker 2: Fitzit for Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy Furman and we up

1956
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Speaker 2: broke casting live from the ti iraq dot com studios

1957
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Speaker 2: ty iraq dot com. We'll help you get there and

1958
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1960
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Speaker 2: The way tire buying should be. Jason Fitch, are you

1961
01:21:14,520 --> 01:21:15,080
Speaker 2: having fun?

1962
01:21:15,200 --> 01:21:17,720
Speaker 4: Yet, man, how can you not have fun? It's a

1963
01:21:17,800 --> 01:21:20,120
Speaker 4: Sunday morning. We're having a beautiful time together. We get

1964
01:21:20,160 --> 01:21:22,360
Speaker 4: to hang out. I mean, look, nobody's as cool or

1965
01:21:22,360 --> 01:21:24,120
Speaker 4: as good looking as Bucky. But like, I'm trying to

1966
01:21:24,160 --> 01:21:26,120
Speaker 4: fill some big shoes here, just trying to fill some big.

1967
01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:28,000
Speaker 2: Shoes, you true, man. The only thing I'm missing right

1968
01:21:28,040 --> 01:21:29,519
Speaker 2: now is a bagel. I wish I had a bagel

1969
01:21:29,640 --> 01:21:30,560
Speaker 2: now for some reason. I don't know.

1970
01:21:30,680 --> 01:21:32,519
Speaker 1: Man, let me can I just like take you off

1971
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Speaker 1: the rails for a second.

1972
01:21:33,360 --> 01:21:35,560
Speaker 4: But I've been on this super clean diet over the

1973
01:21:35,600 --> 01:21:37,320
Speaker 4: course of the last several months of my life, and

1974
01:21:37,800 --> 01:21:39,880
Speaker 4: like really cleaned up my eating and to change my

1975
01:21:39,960 --> 01:21:42,400
Speaker 4: workout habits. And look, I've never been a big guy

1976
01:21:42,520 --> 01:21:44,559
Speaker 4: to begin with, but I'm down thirty six pounds. I've

1977
01:21:44,600 --> 01:21:45,880
Speaker 4: cut my body fat in half.

1978
01:21:46,040 --> 01:21:48,080
Speaker 1: Like this is great. I'm on a journey. I eat

1979
01:21:48,120 --> 01:21:48,599
Speaker 1: the same.

1980
01:21:48,520 --> 01:21:51,920
Speaker 4: Regimented things five times a day every day. Bagels are

1981
01:21:51,960 --> 01:21:53,479
Speaker 4: not on that list. And I'm telling you, of all,

1982
01:21:53,520 --> 01:21:56,519
Speaker 4: come on, this bagel's imposter near to the top of

1983
01:21:56,600 --> 01:21:58,000
Speaker 4: the Like I can live with that bread.

1984
01:21:58,080 --> 01:21:58,840
Speaker 1: I'm fine with that bread.

1985
01:21:58,920 --> 01:22:02,720
Speaker 4: But man, like golly like bagels in general, I just oh,

1986
01:22:03,200 --> 01:22:05,360
Speaker 4: you stay bagel and cream cheese, and I'm just like, oh,

1987
01:22:05,720 --> 01:22:09,280
Speaker 4: just little, a little salivating, like it's just it's what

1988
01:22:09,479 --> 01:22:11,320
Speaker 4: you just did is you made my egg whites and

1989
01:22:11,400 --> 01:22:13,120
Speaker 4: turkey bacon that I'm gonna eat in an hour and

1990
01:22:13,160 --> 01:22:13,400
Speaker 4: a half.

1991
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Speaker 1: Very Underwell, you know.

1992
01:22:15,560 --> 01:22:18,240
Speaker 2: It's funny you talk about staying in shape. And I

1993
01:22:18,360 --> 01:22:19,400
Speaker 2: met a New Year's resolution.

1994
01:22:19,560 --> 01:22:21,120
Speaker 3: I used to run. I used to I used to

1995
01:22:21,240 --> 01:22:21,800
Speaker 3: love to run.

1996
01:22:21,920 --> 01:22:24,679
Speaker 2: I ran in a couple of ten k's melodic ten k's,

1997
01:22:24,720 --> 01:22:27,000
Speaker 2: actually never ran in a twenty six mile marathon with

1998
01:22:27,080 --> 01:22:29,559
Speaker 2: a lot of ten k's, and then I just wore

1999
01:22:29,640 --> 01:22:32,240
Speaker 2: out my my hips. I got two new hips several

2000
01:22:32,360 --> 01:22:34,560
Speaker 2: years ago, so I got to find something else. So

2001
01:22:34,720 --> 01:22:36,920
Speaker 2: I met a resolution. The first of the year. I

2002
01:22:37,000 --> 01:22:39,639
Speaker 2: got one of those bikes, so I watched TV while

2003
01:22:39,680 --> 01:22:42,320
Speaker 2: I do my bike. I think I missed maybe maybe

2004
01:22:42,479 --> 01:22:44,960
Speaker 2: ten days since the first of the year doing a

2005
01:22:45,040 --> 01:22:46,960
Speaker 2: bike at least an hour a day, maybe an hour

2006
01:22:46,960 --> 01:22:49,479
Speaker 2: and a half every single day. So it's got me.

2007
01:22:49,760 --> 01:22:52,360
Speaker 2: It keeps me in shape, which is great. I kind

2008
01:22:52,400 --> 01:22:55,280
Speaker 2: of stay around one seventy eight to eighty two. That's

2009
01:22:55,360 --> 01:22:58,719
Speaker 2: my my role, My my rains, right now so I'm okay.

2010
01:22:59,000 --> 01:23:00,960
Speaker 1: Things are good. Yeah, no, that's good.

2011
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Speaker 4: By the way, like ten thousand steps is the thing

2012
01:23:02,840 --> 01:23:04,880
Speaker 4: for me, like every I mean I lived six days

2013
01:23:04,920 --> 01:23:08,200
Speaker 4: a week, but like ten thousand steps every day, non negotiable.

2014
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Speaker 1: Have to get that in.

2015
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Speaker 4: And it's been so like the walking has actually been

2016
01:23:11,720 --> 01:23:14,360
Speaker 4: really nice. I've learned to find peace in going on

2017
01:23:14,439 --> 01:23:16,200
Speaker 4: a nice day to go a little walk as the

2018
01:23:16,280 --> 01:23:17,599
Speaker 4: sun comes up or goes down.

2019
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Speaker 1: There you go, you know.

2020
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Speaker 2: And I would say this about athletes, which I am

2021
01:23:20,760 --> 01:23:23,479
Speaker 2: not an athlete, but one of the toughest decisions and

2022
01:23:23,520 --> 01:23:26,600
Speaker 2: I don't think the public realizes it or cares, or

2023
01:23:26,600 --> 01:23:27,960
Speaker 2: maybe should they care, I don't know.

2024
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Speaker 3: Is when an.

2025
01:23:28,920 --> 01:23:32,600
Speaker 2: Athlete starts to decline, we watch them play. It's just

2026
01:23:32,720 --> 01:23:35,280
Speaker 2: it's pitiful, it really is. And they have to make

2027
01:23:35,360 --> 01:23:38,679
Speaker 2: that decision to say, you know what, it's over because

2028
01:23:38,680 --> 01:23:40,760
Speaker 2: I can't fight for the time. I just can't do it.

2029
01:23:41,120 --> 01:23:44,080
Speaker 2: And it happened the other day when Joey Vado, formerly

2030
01:23:44,120 --> 01:23:47,280
Speaker 2: of the Cincinnati Reds, now playing Buffalo Monor League team

2031
01:23:47,360 --> 01:23:49,840
Speaker 2: for the Toronto Blue Jays, just said, hey, you know

2032
01:23:49,920 --> 01:23:54,040
Speaker 2: it's over. I'm retiring, but going back to seeing athletes

2033
01:23:54,080 --> 01:23:56,800
Speaker 2: I remember when when Yogi Berra tried to come back

2034
01:23:56,880 --> 01:23:59,320
Speaker 2: with the New York METSA was pitiful, when Willie Mays

2035
01:23:59,360 --> 01:23:59,960
Speaker 2: tried to come back.

2036
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Speaker 3: It's just you don't want to remember guys like that.

2037
01:24:02,960 --> 01:24:03,639
Speaker 3: You just don't.

2038
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Speaker 2: I mean, I remember in the heyday and when they

2039
01:24:05,960 --> 01:24:09,080
Speaker 2: try to come back and struggle and discussed. I'll tell you,

2040
01:24:09,280 --> 01:24:11,120
Speaker 2: I'll give you a quick story and we'll go continue.

2041
01:24:11,160 --> 01:24:14,000
Speaker 2: But I used to go to Cooperstown a lot, almost

2042
01:24:14,040 --> 01:24:16,120
Speaker 2: every summer because I used to go to summer camp

2043
01:24:16,240 --> 01:24:18,880
Speaker 2: near there, up an upstate New York. I remember walking

2044
01:24:18,920 --> 01:24:22,280
Speaker 2: the streets in Cooperstown. On Main Street, I saw Cleek Boyer.

2045
01:24:22,479 --> 01:24:24,559
Speaker 2: It's a tremendous, stirred basement. When I was a kid

2046
01:24:24,720 --> 01:24:27,320
Speaker 2: playing for the New York Yankees, and I said to myself,

2047
01:24:27,439 --> 01:24:29,679
Speaker 2: is that Cleete Boyer. He must have weigh three hundred

2048
01:24:29,720 --> 01:24:32,160
Speaker 2: and fifty pounds. It was amazing. He was hawking books

2049
01:24:32,400 --> 01:24:34,960
Speaker 2: on Main Street in Cooperstown. And I said, I don't

2050
01:24:34,960 --> 01:24:36,960
Speaker 2: want to remember him like that. I mean, I want

2051
01:24:37,000 --> 01:24:38,559
Speaker 2: to get out of my memory. And now every time

2052
01:24:38,600 --> 01:24:41,040
Speaker 2: I hear the name Cleete Boyer, I'm thinking of him.

2053
01:24:41,080 --> 01:24:41,720
Speaker 3: That's what I see.

2054
01:24:41,960 --> 01:24:44,479
Speaker 2: I see that picture of a big load a balloon,

2055
01:24:44,800 --> 01:24:47,439
Speaker 2: and I don't want to do that. It's crazy, I

2056
01:24:47,560 --> 01:24:48,840
Speaker 2: know it is, but that's the way it is.

2057
01:24:49,840 --> 01:24:52,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's the hardest part for athletes, in my mind,

2058
01:24:52,720 --> 01:24:55,559
Speaker 4: is that in many ways, it's what you've done your

2059
01:24:55,600 --> 01:24:56,080
Speaker 4: whole life.

2060
01:24:56,200 --> 01:24:56,360
Speaker 2: You know.

2061
01:24:56,520 --> 01:24:59,160
Speaker 1: For me, I'll never forget my last concert.

2062
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:02,840
Speaker 4: I was making the conscious decision I wanted to leave

2063
01:25:02,880 --> 01:25:04,920
Speaker 4: the music business because I had an opportunity to go

2064
01:25:05,000 --> 01:25:07,200
Speaker 4: work for ESPN, so like it was a dream come

2065
01:25:07,280 --> 01:25:09,320
Speaker 4: true for me, so I had no regrets. But I

2066
01:25:09,400 --> 01:25:11,639
Speaker 4: remember so distinctly my last show with the Van Perry

2067
01:25:12,160 --> 01:25:14,840
Speaker 4: was the Alaska State Fair and it was cold and

2068
01:25:14,960 --> 01:25:17,200
Speaker 4: it was rainy, like, it was gross outside.

2069
01:25:17,479 --> 01:25:19,320
Speaker 1: The crowd wasn't all that great, like, it was.

2070
01:25:19,439 --> 01:25:22,680
Speaker 4: Just there was a tin roof above us where we

2071
01:25:22,760 --> 01:25:24,200
Speaker 4: were playing that they were trying to keep us like

2072
01:25:24,479 --> 01:25:26,479
Speaker 4: dry under. It was so low that when I was

2073
01:25:26,479 --> 01:25:29,479
Speaker 4: playing fiddle, like I had to watch because my bow

2074
01:25:29,720 --> 01:25:31,800
Speaker 4: was hitting the roof, that's how low it was. And

2075
01:25:31,880 --> 01:25:34,639
Speaker 4: it was just this awful, crappy show. And I remember

2076
01:25:34,720 --> 01:25:36,760
Speaker 4: walking off stage and telling my buddies in the band,

2077
01:25:36,800 --> 01:25:38,200
Speaker 4: I was like, God, I'm so glad this was my

2078
01:25:38,320 --> 01:25:39,240
Speaker 4: last show because it.

2079
01:25:39,280 --> 01:25:40,280
Speaker 1: Made it really easy.

2080
01:25:40,439 --> 01:25:43,200
Speaker 4: Like two weeks before that we played The Garden sold out, right,

2081
01:25:43,320 --> 01:25:45,000
Speaker 4: So like if that had been my last show, I

2082
01:25:45,040 --> 01:25:46,599
Speaker 4: think there's a twinge of you that's.

2083
01:25:46,439 --> 01:25:48,000
Speaker 1: Like, oh, I should go back and keep doing it.

2084
01:25:48,080 --> 01:25:50,479
Speaker 4: But like I got to pick my out, and for

2085
01:25:50,640 --> 01:25:53,040
Speaker 4: that reason, I've never regretted it. When I go back

2086
01:25:53,040 --> 01:25:54,880
Speaker 4: to play now, I don't have a twinge of doubt.

2087
01:25:55,120 --> 01:25:57,800
Speaker 4: I'm just enjoying myself. For so many people, when you

2088
01:25:57,880 --> 01:26:00,720
Speaker 4: don't get to pick your out, when you've football your

2089
01:26:00,760 --> 01:26:03,200
Speaker 4: whole life, for basketball or baseball, your whole life, and

2090
01:26:03,280 --> 01:26:05,760
Speaker 4: all of a sudden one day your body just doesn't cooperate. Well,

2091
01:26:06,120 --> 01:26:08,759
Speaker 4: you didn't get to make this strategic decision, you didn't

2092
01:26:08,760 --> 01:26:09,599
Speaker 4: want to do it anymore.

2093
01:26:09,640 --> 01:26:12,720
Speaker 1: You just you got replaced. And that's that's such a

2094
01:26:12,760 --> 01:26:13,360
Speaker 1: different vibe.

2095
01:26:13,400 --> 01:26:15,320
Speaker 4: My friends that are no longer in the music business

2096
01:26:15,400 --> 01:26:18,519
Speaker 4: because they were taking off gigs or because they stopped

2097
01:26:18,560 --> 01:26:20,479
Speaker 4: selling records or any of those things, like they have

2098
01:26:20,600 --> 01:26:22,760
Speaker 4: such sadness. And for me, because I got to choose

2099
01:26:22,800 --> 01:26:24,760
Speaker 4: when I got out, I have such joy with it.

2100
01:26:25,000 --> 01:26:26,920
Speaker 4: I think of that every time an athlete has to retire.

2101
01:26:27,520 --> 01:26:29,920
Speaker 2: Oh, I'll tell you It's crazy, it really is, and

2102
01:26:30,840 --> 01:26:32,719
Speaker 2: I don't see. You know, one of the few athletes

2103
01:26:32,760 --> 01:26:36,280
Speaker 2: that kind of retired and came back and really was

2104
01:26:36,520 --> 01:26:39,320
Speaker 2: pretty decent was Michael Jordan. When he came back with Washington,

2105
01:26:39,360 --> 01:26:41,600
Speaker 2: he still average about twenty points a game. You know,

2106
01:26:41,680 --> 01:26:43,880
Speaker 2: he didn't have what he had before. And that's why

2107
01:26:44,000 --> 01:26:46,960
Speaker 2: I'm amazed when I see guys like Lebron James. She's

2108
01:26:47,040 --> 01:26:50,120
Speaker 2: pushing forty years old and he's playing like thirty plus

2109
01:26:50,240 --> 01:26:53,080
Speaker 2: minutes a game, almost forty minutes a game in the NBA,

2110
01:26:53,160 --> 01:26:55,479
Speaker 2: and he's still somewhat dominating. He really is on a

2111
01:26:55,520 --> 01:26:58,200
Speaker 2: bad team, but still he's too play. He's one of

2112
01:26:58,240 --> 01:27:01,679
Speaker 2: the legends of our time. Certain guys have a certain don't.

2113
01:27:01,680 --> 01:27:03,800
Speaker 2: But Joey Vado retired the other day, and I think

2114
01:27:03,840 --> 01:27:06,800
Speaker 2: the question came up almost immediately, is he available?

2115
01:27:06,880 --> 01:27:09,439
Speaker 3: Is he ready? Is he a Hall of Famer? And

2116
01:27:09,880 --> 01:27:10,519
Speaker 3: I looked at that.

2117
01:27:10,680 --> 01:27:13,400
Speaker 2: I said, one of his great claims to fame is

2118
01:27:13,479 --> 01:27:15,680
Speaker 2: that he played for one team for seventeen years, the

2119
01:27:15,760 --> 01:27:18,760
Speaker 2: same team, the Cincinnati Reds. Other than that years, two

2120
01:27:18,880 --> 01:27:22,000
Speaker 2: ninety four career batting average, four nine on base percentage.

2121
01:27:22,200 --> 01:27:25,519
Speaker 2: You know, a great guy, respected guy, always friendly with

2122
01:27:25,600 --> 01:27:27,760
Speaker 2: the media. I'm not so certain he's a Hall of

2123
01:27:27,840 --> 01:27:30,320
Speaker 2: Famer twenty one hundred plus hits. What do you think

2124
01:27:30,400 --> 01:27:31,439
Speaker 2: on that with Joey Vado?

2125
01:27:32,479 --> 01:27:34,880
Speaker 4: The funny thing to me is the things, as you mentioned,

2126
01:27:34,960 --> 01:27:38,120
Speaker 4: are things that we find joy in playing eighteen years

2127
01:27:38,200 --> 01:27:38,719
Speaker 4: with the team.

2128
01:27:39,240 --> 01:27:41,439
Speaker 1: Does that make you a Hall of Famer? Is that

2129
01:27:41,560 --> 01:27:43,120
Speaker 1: a requirement to be in the Hall of Fame? No?

2130
01:27:43,600 --> 01:27:45,720
Speaker 4: And so to me, like you know, just the fact

2131
01:27:45,720 --> 01:27:48,280
Speaker 4: that you stayed with one organization, Well, that's a slow

2132
01:27:48,320 --> 01:27:50,320
Speaker 4: clap and I love that, and it really means something

2133
01:27:50,360 --> 01:27:52,200
Speaker 4: to the city, and you mean something to the city,

2134
01:27:52,240 --> 01:27:53,880
Speaker 4: and you mean something to the sport for doing it.

2135
01:27:54,240 --> 01:27:57,960
Speaker 1: But is that alone a Hall of Fame candidate moment?

2136
01:27:58,080 --> 01:27:58,120
Speaker 10: No?

2137
01:27:58,560 --> 01:28:00,560
Speaker 4: Now, the funny thing is you could look at a

2138
01:28:00,600 --> 01:28:02,599
Speaker 4: bunch of the metrics, and this is where it gets

2139
01:28:02,640 --> 01:28:04,599
Speaker 4: really nerdy, right, Like, I'm glad I'm not a Hall

2140
01:28:04,640 --> 01:28:06,560
Speaker 4: of Fame voter. But you know, as they come in

2141
01:28:06,600 --> 01:28:09,240
Speaker 4: and say seven thousand career of the players with seven

2142
01:28:09,320 --> 01:28:12,240
Speaker 4: thousand career played appearances is four h nine on base percentage,

2143
01:28:12,360 --> 01:28:14,840
Speaker 4: ninth best in the integration era, Like that tells you

2144
01:28:14,960 --> 01:28:16,920
Speaker 4: how good the stats were. But here's the thing for me,

2145
01:28:17,640 --> 01:28:19,400
Speaker 4: And this is the argument. I don't care what sport

2146
01:28:19,439 --> 01:28:21,360
Speaker 4: we're talking about when you talk hall of fame. This

2147
01:28:21,560 --> 01:28:24,280
Speaker 4: is what I ask myself. When you saw that team,

2148
01:28:24,680 --> 01:28:27,400
Speaker 4: did you stop? Did you tell your friends and your kids,

2149
01:28:27,520 --> 01:28:29,439
Speaker 4: we got to watch this Wait, this guy's at bat,

2150
01:28:29,680 --> 01:28:31,680
Speaker 4: this guy's playing. When you looked at the schedule, did

2151
01:28:31,720 --> 01:28:34,040
Speaker 4: you say, oh, man, my favorite team's gonna lose that

2152
01:28:34,080 --> 01:28:36,840
Speaker 4: game because we're taking on that guy. And as much

2153
01:28:36,880 --> 01:28:38,920
Speaker 4: as I love the human being and as much as

2154
01:28:39,000 --> 01:28:41,320
Speaker 4: I love the numbers, and you can make a stats

2155
01:28:41,360 --> 01:28:43,680
Speaker 4: case for him, for sure, I just never felt that

2156
01:28:43,840 --> 01:28:44,960
Speaker 4: way about him as a player.

2157
01:28:45,080 --> 01:28:45,960
Speaker 1: So it's hard for me to.

2158
01:28:45,960 --> 01:28:48,439
Speaker 4: Make the justification that he's a Hall of Famer because

2159
01:28:48,680 --> 01:28:50,720
Speaker 4: I don't think in thirty years people are going to

2160
01:28:50,760 --> 01:28:53,320
Speaker 4: be sitting with their kids and their grandkids and saying, yeah,

2161
01:28:53,520 --> 01:28:56,080
Speaker 4: you might be watching this guy, but I watched Joe

2162
01:28:56,080 --> 01:28:58,280
Speaker 4: Evado and that hit different, you know what I mean.

2163
01:28:59,200 --> 01:29:01,920
Speaker 2: You know, it's funny mentioned that, because certainly stats are

2164
01:29:02,280 --> 01:29:05,160
Speaker 2: a great barometer, and the voters will be using the stats,

2165
01:29:05,600 --> 01:29:07,960
Speaker 2: but I think there's other things that I really decide

2166
01:29:08,000 --> 01:29:09,559
Speaker 2: what a Hall of Famer is, and I would hope

2167
01:29:09,760 --> 01:29:12,040
Speaker 2: that those people who vote would think about that.

2168
01:29:12,240 --> 01:29:12,760
Speaker 3: Number one.

2169
01:29:13,240 --> 01:29:15,120
Speaker 2: I think they would say, is he the kind of

2170
01:29:15,200 --> 01:29:17,680
Speaker 2: guy if I'm at a ballgame, I refuse to go

2171
01:29:17,800 --> 01:29:19,599
Speaker 2: get a beer or go to the toilet because he's

2172
01:29:19,600 --> 01:29:20,120
Speaker 2: going to be up there.

2173
01:29:20,160 --> 01:29:21,680
Speaker 3: I want to watch that. That's the key.

2174
01:29:21,840 --> 01:29:23,519
Speaker 2: And I don't think Joey Voada was that kind of guy.

2175
01:29:23,680 --> 01:29:26,720
Speaker 2: Ken Griffy Jr. Was you know, I would never leave

2176
01:29:26,800 --> 01:29:29,599
Speaker 2: my I would never leave my seat when Ken Griffory Junr.

2177
01:29:29,640 --> 01:29:30,200
Speaker 3: Came to the plate.

2178
01:29:30,479 --> 01:29:32,880
Speaker 2: But with Joey vado I would. I mean with most

2179
01:29:32,880 --> 01:29:34,920
Speaker 2: of most of the time, he'd walk, you know, and

2180
01:29:35,640 --> 01:29:38,200
Speaker 2: he wasn't that kind of a guy. So those are

2181
01:29:38,240 --> 01:29:40,680
Speaker 2: some of the things I think that you put into

2182
01:29:40,800 --> 01:29:41,960
Speaker 2: perspective what he does.

2183
01:29:42,200 --> 01:29:42,680
Speaker 3: More than that.

2184
01:29:43,160 --> 01:29:45,960
Speaker 2: I remember once, and look, I'm not trying to throw

2185
01:29:46,000 --> 01:29:47,680
Speaker 2: out names over here, but I got to know p

2186
01:29:47,880 --> 01:29:48,559
Speaker 2: Rose really well.

2187
01:29:48,640 --> 01:29:48,800
Speaker 1: Why.

2188
01:29:49,120 --> 01:29:52,040
Speaker 2: I was a pr guy at a racetrack in northern Kentucky,

2189
01:29:52,160 --> 01:29:54,559
Speaker 2: Latonia Racecourse, and he came out there every single night,

2190
01:29:54,920 --> 01:29:56,600
Speaker 2: you know, in the winter time when they when they

2191
01:29:56,640 --> 01:30:00,040
Speaker 2: weren't playing. So Pete and I became pretty close and

2192
01:30:00,200 --> 01:30:02,360
Speaker 2: we talk about this many times, and he said, here's

2193
01:30:02,400 --> 01:30:04,400
Speaker 2: my deal. On the Hall of Fame. If you don't

2194
01:30:04,400 --> 01:30:06,880
Speaker 2: get it on the first time, you should never get

2195
01:30:06,920 --> 01:30:09,240
Speaker 2: in at all, because you just don't get better. He said,

2196
01:30:09,240 --> 01:30:11,360
Speaker 2: I don't know why guys keep on putting their name

2197
01:30:11,400 --> 01:30:13,400
Speaker 2: on the ballot if they don't get in the first time,

2198
01:30:13,600 --> 01:30:17,559
Speaker 2: because you don't improve in years being on the ballot.

2199
01:30:17,760 --> 01:30:19,559
Speaker 2: You didn't get you were good enough the first time,

2200
01:30:19,760 --> 01:30:21,240
Speaker 2: you just shouldn't get it in at all. I mentioned

2201
01:30:21,280 --> 01:30:22,880
Speaker 2: this to Rob Parker the other day.

2202
01:30:23,000 --> 01:30:24,760
Speaker 3: He agreed. He's a Hall of Fame voter.

2203
01:30:25,040 --> 01:30:26,760
Speaker 2: He says, if the guy doesn't get in the first

2204
01:30:26,800 --> 01:30:28,560
Speaker 2: time and I voted for him, I ain't voting for

2205
01:30:28,640 --> 01:30:30,640
Speaker 2: him again because if it wasn't good enough to get

2206
01:30:30,680 --> 01:30:32,439
Speaker 2: in the first time, he shouldn't get in at all.

2207
01:30:33,880 --> 01:30:36,600
Speaker 4: That's a I mean, it's a really strong it's a

2208
01:30:36,640 --> 01:30:39,599
Speaker 4: really strong case, you know, I mean absolutely, I can't

2209
01:30:39,680 --> 01:30:41,000
Speaker 4: imagine how.

2210
01:30:40,920 --> 01:30:43,479
Speaker 1: Difficult that is. By the way, you know, I guess

2211
01:30:43,560 --> 01:30:44,320
Speaker 1: the argument is that.

2212
01:30:44,479 --> 01:30:47,280
Speaker 4: What each each person, if I'm correct, can vote for

2213
01:30:47,439 --> 01:30:51,120
Speaker 4: ten people ten every ballance, right, So I guess the

2214
01:30:51,240 --> 01:30:53,120
Speaker 4: argument is that you didn't get better, but maybe your

2215
01:30:53,160 --> 01:30:56,040
Speaker 4: competition got less. But also should that be a reason

2216
01:30:56,120 --> 01:30:57,920
Speaker 4: you get into the Hall of Fame, Like I never

2217
01:30:58,040 --> 01:31:00,040
Speaker 4: wanted to win a Grammy in my life because it

2218
01:31:00,120 --> 01:31:01,880
Speaker 4: was the year that nobody put out a good record.

2219
01:31:02,000 --> 01:31:03,760
Speaker 1: Like that's not kind of that's just not how you

2220
01:31:04,160 --> 01:31:04,880
Speaker 1: run things, you know.

2221
01:31:05,000 --> 01:31:07,120
Speaker 4: So I think that there's a little bit of an

2222
01:31:07,120 --> 01:31:10,080
Speaker 4: element of truth to that. I cannot imagine though for

2223
01:31:10,160 --> 01:31:12,120
Speaker 4: a player, just getting in is all that matters. It

2224
01:31:12,160 --> 01:31:15,280
Speaker 4: doesn't matter when it happens. I cannot imagine not having

2225
01:31:15,360 --> 01:31:17,519
Speaker 4: that opportunity. If it doesn't happen, you're one. But let

2226
01:31:17,560 --> 01:31:19,920
Speaker 4: me ask you this, how different do you think the

2227
01:31:20,040 --> 01:31:23,240
Speaker 4: voting process would be if every person knew.

2228
01:31:23,520 --> 01:31:26,679
Speaker 1: That it's one and done on the vote, Like, I think.

2229
01:31:26,600 --> 01:31:29,840
Speaker 4: The voters would approach it much differently in every sport

2230
01:31:30,160 --> 01:31:31,800
Speaker 4: if they knew, Man, this is the only chance you

2231
01:31:31,840 --> 01:31:32,080
Speaker 4: get to.

2232
01:31:32,120 --> 01:31:32,720
Speaker 1: Vote on this guy.

2233
01:31:32,840 --> 01:31:34,720
Speaker 4: So if he doesn't make it now, he doesn't make

2234
01:31:34,760 --> 01:31:38,240
Speaker 4: it ever Like that that would change the responsibility of

2235
01:31:38,320 --> 01:31:40,639
Speaker 4: voting so much. Because I don't know any Major League

2236
01:31:40,640 --> 01:31:42,759
Speaker 4: Baseball voters that I talked to about the voting process.

2237
01:31:42,800 --> 01:31:44,479
Speaker 4: I know a couple of voters, but I've talked to

2238
01:31:44,560 --> 01:31:46,720
Speaker 4: a bunch of Hall of Fame voters in the NFL side.

2239
01:31:47,040 --> 01:31:49,720
Speaker 4: And then people will tell you that they understand, like, well,

2240
01:31:49,760 --> 01:31:51,360
Speaker 4: maybe this guy's not going to make it this year,

2241
01:31:51,400 --> 01:31:53,120
Speaker 4: but they'll make it next year the year after when

2242
01:31:53,160 --> 01:31:54,000
Speaker 4: it's a weaker class.

2243
01:31:54,080 --> 01:31:56,120
Speaker 1: Like, I don't know that that's the healthiest process.

2244
01:31:56,479 --> 01:31:57,639
Speaker 3: I'm with you one thousand percent.

2245
01:31:57,720 --> 01:31:59,519
Speaker 2: I'll tell you why. Even Rob Parker mentioned this. He

2246
01:31:59,520 --> 01:32:01,400
Speaker 2: says he talked to various voters.

2247
01:32:01,720 --> 01:32:02,280
Speaker 3: When they see a.

2248
01:32:02,280 --> 01:32:04,320
Speaker 2: Guy's name on there for the last time, the tenth

2249
01:32:04,360 --> 01:32:06,000
Speaker 2: time he's on the ballot and he's not going to

2250
01:32:06,040 --> 01:32:07,479
Speaker 2: be on to be thrown off the ballot that year,

2251
01:32:07,520 --> 01:32:09,920
Speaker 2: is well, you know he is his last shot. I'm

2252
01:32:10,160 --> 01:32:11,840
Speaker 2: I'm going to vote because there's his last shot on

2253
01:32:11,880 --> 01:32:14,120
Speaker 2: the back. That's not a way to vote for a guy. Now,

2254
01:32:14,320 --> 01:32:16,719
Speaker 2: another thing that's a flaw as far as I'm concerned

2255
01:32:16,760 --> 01:32:20,040
Speaker 2: with baseball and the voting process is his Veterans Committee.

2256
01:32:20,200 --> 01:32:22,760
Speaker 2: Why is Bill Manasarowski a Hall of famer because he's

2257
01:32:22,800 --> 01:32:24,920
Speaker 2: good friends with the Old Bud, the Old Boy Network,

2258
01:32:25,160 --> 01:32:28,080
Speaker 2: the Veterans, and I taught Davey concepts. The own is

2259
01:32:28,439 --> 01:32:31,720
Speaker 2: not a Hall of Famer, but Bill Nasarowski is. I Mean, look,

2260
01:32:31,920 --> 01:32:35,360
Speaker 2: I guess every system and every business is flawed to

2261
01:32:35,439 --> 01:32:39,160
Speaker 2: some extent, but this is pretty well flawed. The voting

2262
01:32:39,240 --> 01:32:41,760
Speaker 2: system for Major League Baseball and the Hall of Fame.

2263
01:32:41,960 --> 01:32:45,240
Speaker 2: It's just don't I don't understand that. I really don't,

2264
01:32:45,400 --> 01:32:47,400
Speaker 2: and I understand how some guys could get in. And

2265
01:32:47,479 --> 01:32:50,679
Speaker 2: the Veteran Committee, to me, is a backdoor entrance, which

2266
01:32:50,760 --> 01:32:51,120
Speaker 2: is weak.

2267
01:32:51,360 --> 01:32:54,000
Speaker 3: That's just weak. It really is taking care of the

2268
01:32:54,080 --> 01:32:54,840
Speaker 3: bold boys.

2269
01:32:55,680 --> 01:32:57,960
Speaker 4: And when you've gone through the voting process so many times,

2270
01:32:58,000 --> 01:33:00,200
Speaker 4: it's like, there's a reason there's a voting process. Why

2271
01:33:00,320 --> 01:33:02,080
Speaker 4: is there a Veterans committee other than to try and

2272
01:33:02,360 --> 01:33:04,519
Speaker 4: clean up them as to somebody that they think deserves

2273
01:33:04,600 --> 01:33:06,840
Speaker 4: to be in. And that's just sort of backwards to

2274
01:33:06,920 --> 01:33:09,280
Speaker 4: the whole thing. And I think we also have to

2275
01:33:09,400 --> 01:33:11,840
Speaker 4: understand that the voting process in general is taken so

2276
01:33:12,040 --> 01:33:13,160
Speaker 4: seriously by everybody.

2277
01:33:13,479 --> 01:33:15,160
Speaker 1: It's not like you're sitting there saying.

2278
01:33:15,000 --> 01:33:17,800
Speaker 4: Well, they didn't get in, because you know, everybody's not

2279
01:33:18,400 --> 01:33:20,920
Speaker 4: not really participating at the same level. Again, I can't

2280
01:33:20,960 --> 01:33:23,160
Speaker 4: speak to a Hall of Fame vote, but I have

2281
01:33:23,280 --> 01:33:25,640
Speaker 4: had for much of my life a Grammy vote, And

2282
01:33:25,920 --> 01:33:27,800
Speaker 4: you know, I have a Bolitanikoff Award vote in college

2283
01:33:27,840 --> 01:33:30,280
Speaker 4: football for the best wide receiver, and I take all

2284
01:33:30,360 --> 01:33:33,840
Speaker 4: of that incredibly seriously, Like I talk to people, I

2285
01:33:34,160 --> 01:33:36,479
Speaker 4: listen to everything in the grammy side, I watch everything

2286
01:33:36,520 --> 01:33:39,080
Speaker 4: on the football side, Like I take that incredibly seriously.

2287
01:33:39,120 --> 01:33:41,559
Speaker 4: I know Hall of Fame voters do also, So how

2288
01:33:41,720 --> 01:33:45,160
Speaker 4: is someone even getting to the vet committee if it

2289
01:33:45,320 --> 01:33:47,320
Speaker 4: presumes that the people voting year and in year out

2290
01:33:47,479 --> 01:33:51,040
Speaker 4: just didn't take the job seriously and somebody slipped through

2291
01:33:51,080 --> 01:33:52,800
Speaker 4: the cracks like that doesn't make any sense to me.

2292
01:33:53,200 --> 01:33:55,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, and most of the veterans that are getting in

2293
01:33:55,760 --> 01:33:58,200
Speaker 2: aren't deserving of the Hall of Fame anyway. I'm telling you,

2294
01:33:58,280 --> 01:34:01,280
Speaker 2: they're just good old buds. The only thing Bill Mazerowski

2295
01:34:01,360 --> 01:34:03,280
Speaker 2: has done that I remember is the fact that in

2296
01:34:03,360 --> 01:34:05,439
Speaker 2: nineteen sixty he beat the Yankees in the World Series

2297
01:34:05,560 --> 01:34:08,719
Speaker 2: with that home runner Ralph Terry. That's his claim the fame,

2298
01:34:09,040 --> 01:34:11,120
Speaker 2: you know. And no one ever gets into the Baseball

2299
01:34:11,160 --> 01:34:14,240
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame because they're quote a great defensive player.

2300
01:34:14,520 --> 01:34:16,639
Speaker 2: Great defensive players don't get into the Hall of Fame.

2301
01:34:16,920 --> 01:34:20,040
Speaker 2: You could be the you know, the worst defensive player

2302
01:34:20,080 --> 01:34:22,439
Speaker 2: in the world, and if you're bat three twenty lifetime

2303
01:34:22,640 --> 01:34:24,840
Speaker 2: with four hundred plus home runs, you're getting into the

2304
01:34:24,880 --> 01:34:27,439
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame. If it can't catch a baseball, that's

2305
01:34:27,479 --> 01:34:28,000
Speaker 2: the way it is.

2306
01:34:29,360 --> 01:34:30,519
Speaker 1: And you're absolutely right.

2307
01:34:30,920 --> 01:34:31,439
Speaker 3: I don't get it.

2308
01:34:31,560 --> 01:34:33,679
Speaker 2: But I was looking at the class of twenty twenty

2309
01:34:33,800 --> 01:34:37,479
Speaker 2: nine because that's the time Joey Vada will be eligible

2310
01:34:37,520 --> 01:34:39,000
Speaker 2: to get into the Hall of Fame, and he's going

2311
01:34:39,000 --> 01:34:42,400
Speaker 2: against me, Will Cabera and Zach greenk. I just look,

2312
01:34:42,560 --> 01:34:44,519
Speaker 2: he may get in one day. I don't think he's

2313
01:34:44,520 --> 01:34:46,120
Speaker 2: a Hall of Fame, but he may very well get in.

2314
01:34:46,360 --> 01:34:48,360
Speaker 2: But certainly I don't think he's getting in on the

2315
01:34:48,400 --> 01:34:49,000
Speaker 2: first ballot.

2316
01:34:49,160 --> 01:34:53,760
Speaker 4: That's for certain Yeah, and then it does I only

2317
01:34:54,240 --> 01:34:56,599
Speaker 4: wonder what that means for everybody, Like the Hall of Fame,

2318
01:34:56,680 --> 01:34:58,519
Speaker 4: when you've gone through that many years of it, what

2319
01:34:58,600 --> 01:35:00,240
Speaker 4: does it feel like when you finally get the called

2320
01:35:00,320 --> 01:35:02,720
Speaker 4: you if you're relief, do you feel some level of

2321
01:35:03,400 --> 01:35:06,720
Speaker 4: you know, you're disappointed in the way the process went down, Like.

2322
01:35:06,840 --> 01:35:08,439
Speaker 1: I just I can't imagine any of that.

2323
01:35:08,520 --> 01:35:09,880
Speaker 4: Like, at the end of the day, you're Hall of Famer,

2324
01:35:09,920 --> 01:35:11,840
Speaker 4: maybe you don't give an in, but that would be

2325
01:35:11,960 --> 01:35:12,640
Speaker 4: very difficult for me.

2326
01:35:13,240 --> 01:35:15,760
Speaker 2: I'm with you. Look, you want to be a Hall

2327
01:35:15,760 --> 01:35:17,400
Speaker 2: of Fame and that's great, but you know, he do

2328
01:35:17,520 --> 01:35:20,639
Speaker 2: it the right way. And I don't want to bad

2329
01:35:20,760 --> 01:35:23,240
Speaker 2: now Joey Vado. Just my take, I don't he's lucky.

2330
01:35:23,400 --> 01:35:23,760
Speaker 3: He's lucky.

2331
01:35:24,000 --> 01:35:25,479
Speaker 2: I don't have a vote because I don't think i'd

2332
01:35:25,520 --> 01:35:27,679
Speaker 2: vote for him, That's all I'm saying. And I don't

2333
01:35:27,720 --> 01:35:29,960
Speaker 2: think i'm alone. I mean, he's got some great numbers.

2334
01:35:30,000 --> 01:35:32,240
Speaker 2: He was a great player, but he wasn't a super player.

2335
01:35:32,439 --> 01:35:35,080
Speaker 2: There's a difference between the level he was at and

2336
01:35:35,280 --> 01:35:37,439
Speaker 2: the next level, which is a Hall of Fame level.

2337
01:35:37,479 --> 01:35:38,519
Speaker 3: All right, That's all I'm saying.

2338
01:35:38,640 --> 01:35:41,120
Speaker 2: And again, if you're looking at the Cincinnati Reds and

2339
01:35:41,200 --> 01:35:43,360
Speaker 2: that big Red Machine era bet in seventy five and

2340
01:35:43,439 --> 01:35:45,760
Speaker 2: seventy six and Davey concepts, you on to me, was

2341
01:35:45,800 --> 01:35:47,920
Speaker 2: one of the greatest shortstops ever to play the game

2342
01:35:47,960 --> 01:35:48,479
Speaker 2: of baseball.

2343
01:35:48,600 --> 01:35:50,800
Speaker 3: And he's not in the Hall of Fame. Something's wrong there.

2344
01:35:51,200 --> 01:35:52,960
Speaker 2: That entire team is just about in the Hall of

2345
01:35:53,040 --> 01:35:56,200
Speaker 2: Fame except Pete Rose and that's another story. But Johnny

2346
01:35:56,240 --> 01:35:58,439
Speaker 2: Bench is in there. They're all in there, and just

2347
01:35:58,640 --> 01:35:59,920
Speaker 2: I don't know why Concepcion's not.

2348
01:36:01,640 --> 01:36:02,880
Speaker 1: Is there anything that fixes that?

2349
01:36:03,000 --> 01:36:03,160
Speaker 9: To you?

2350
01:36:03,280 --> 01:36:05,240
Speaker 1: Though, Like at this point that it's sort of like

2351
01:36:05,320 --> 01:36:07,640
Speaker 1: the damage is done. I don't know. I don't know.

2352
01:36:08,520 --> 01:36:09,800
Speaker 2: I don't know either. I mean, I don't know if

2353
01:36:09,840 --> 01:36:11,800
Speaker 2: a conception you could get on the Veterans Committee or not.

2354
01:36:11,920 --> 01:36:14,120
Speaker 2: But you know, there's certainly something should be done. But

2355
01:36:14,439 --> 01:36:17,080
Speaker 2: you know, I think it's all about people, you know,

2356
01:36:17,640 --> 01:36:20,559
Speaker 2: working for I remember when Tony Perez did not get

2357
01:36:20,600 --> 01:36:22,760
Speaker 2: into the Hall of Fame on several attempts. Then he

2358
01:36:22,880 --> 01:36:25,840
Speaker 2: finally did. I think he hired Now I maybe I'm

2359
01:36:25,920 --> 01:36:28,439
Speaker 2: pretty sure of this. I'm not going to bet my

2360
01:36:28,520 --> 01:36:30,679
Speaker 2: life on it, but I remember I got some material

2361
01:36:30,760 --> 01:36:34,360
Speaker 2: in the mail, and he hired a firm to promote

2362
01:36:34,439 --> 01:36:35,960
Speaker 2: him to get into the Hall of Fame. He eventually

2363
01:36:36,000 --> 01:36:37,760
Speaker 2: got in. And I'm not saying he wasn't a Hall

2364
01:36:37,760 --> 01:36:40,160
Speaker 2: of Famer. He'd be probably is a Hall of Famer,

2365
01:36:40,240 --> 01:36:43,560
Speaker 2: and certainly more so than Joey Vado, and he is

2366
01:36:43,600 --> 01:36:44,640
Speaker 2: in the Hall of Fame right now.

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Speaker 3: But I know he hired some sort.

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Speaker 2: Of an agency to promote his cause to get into

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Speaker 2: the Baseball Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's not uncommon. What to do that, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: whatever it takes to get the consideration you need. For sure,

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Speaker 4: I just can't imagine having to hire someone to you know,

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Speaker 4: speak on my behalf. But whatever it takes, because it

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Speaker 4: certainly changes your life. What you're able to put that

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Speaker 4: hof next to it.

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Speaker 3: No doubt about that. Okay, he's the Hall of Fame himself.

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Speaker 2: He's Jason fitz Get him on Twitter, get him on

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Speaker 2: you ready for some phone calls? We got some people

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Speaker 2: want to talk to you.

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Speaker 3: Are you ready?

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Speaker 1: Let's go bring it a run.

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Speaker 3: Randy and Florida. You're on with Jason Fitz. How you doing?

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Speaker 9: Ran one of guys from a hot Fort Minds, Florida

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Speaker 9: home with Dion Sanders.

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Speaker 1: Glad to talk to you.

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01:38:36,000 --> 01:38:39,160
Speaker 9: Thank you being for you. I wanted to know if

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01:38:39,240 --> 01:38:42,040
Speaker 9: you guys. You guys both said you didn't play sports.

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01:38:42,240 --> 01:38:42,719
Speaker 1: I tried.

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Speaker 9: I was no good, but you know it was what

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01:38:44,880 --> 01:38:47,920
Speaker 9: it is. Would you rather have the Hall of Fame

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01:38:48,080 --> 01:38:51,439
Speaker 9: jacket being the Baseball Hall of Fame, the NBA Hall

2416
01:38:51,439 --> 01:38:53,719
Speaker 9: of Fame or win a ring? That's my first question.

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01:38:54,439 --> 01:38:56,760
Speaker 9: The second question is looking at guys who destroyed their

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01:38:56,800 --> 01:38:59,920
Speaker 9: career and Andy, you're from New York. I always want

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01:39:00,120 --> 01:39:02,639
Speaker 9: if the Dwight Goodin or Strawberry could have gotten in there,

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01:39:02,960 --> 01:39:05,120
Speaker 9: how things would have been. That's all I have. I'll

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01:39:05,120 --> 01:39:05,840
Speaker 9: take you off the line.

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Speaker 2: Thanks, all right, as far as that, go ahead, Jane,

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01:39:08,560 --> 01:39:10,400
Speaker 2: I'll follow up, but that we do a Hall of

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01:39:10,479 --> 01:39:12,720
Speaker 2: Fame and would you rather have a ring? Well, you

2425
01:39:12,760 --> 01:39:13,960
Speaker 2: do get a ring if you go to the Hall

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01:39:13,960 --> 01:39:14,920
Speaker 2: of Fames, you get both.

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01:39:15,000 --> 01:39:18,120
Speaker 4: Really, but go right ahead, man, that's a tough one,

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01:39:18,200 --> 01:39:20,720
Speaker 4: the ring or the Hall of Fame jacket, because you know,

2429
01:39:20,840 --> 01:39:23,120
Speaker 4: the Hall of Fame jacket means that you sustain success

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01:39:23,160 --> 01:39:25,360
Speaker 4: at the highest possible level for the longest time and

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01:39:25,400 --> 01:39:29,680
Speaker 4: that people genuinely respect what you do. The championship ring

2432
01:39:30,040 --> 01:39:32,120
Speaker 4: can mean so much, but you can also win a

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01:39:32,200 --> 01:39:34,600
Speaker 4: championship ring on a team that maybe you weren't the

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01:39:34,640 --> 01:39:36,320
Speaker 4: biggest part of it, maybe you weren't the best part

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01:39:36,360 --> 01:39:38,720
Speaker 4: of it. So I mean, I think I'll go back

2436
01:39:38,760 --> 01:39:41,920
Speaker 4: to something that Nick Saban and Mike Krychevski both teach

2437
01:39:42,040 --> 01:39:43,880
Speaker 4: their kids when they were coaching.

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01:39:44,560 --> 01:39:47,400
Speaker 1: Now formerly, one of the principles they always taught was

2439
01:39:47,479 --> 01:39:48,920
Speaker 1: never worry about being the best.

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01:39:49,200 --> 01:39:52,880
Speaker 4: Always worry about being your best, because the best is

2441
01:39:53,000 --> 01:39:55,840
Speaker 4: variables you don't control, right like, you can't control if

2442
01:39:55,880 --> 01:39:57,800
Speaker 4: you did your best and somebody else was simply better

2443
01:39:57,840 --> 01:40:00,320
Speaker 4: than you that day, that's going to happen. Sometimes I

2444
01:40:00,400 --> 01:40:02,360
Speaker 4: live by the principal would be my best at everything

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01:40:02,439 --> 01:40:04,559
Speaker 4: that I can be, every single day. So I think

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01:40:04,600 --> 01:40:07,160
Speaker 4: the Hall of Fame jacket, I control that far more

2447
01:40:07,200 --> 01:40:08,360
Speaker 4: than I control winning a chip.

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01:40:08,479 --> 01:40:09,600
Speaker 1: So even though the.

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01:40:09,640 --> 01:40:11,840
Speaker 4: Ring is enticing, the Hall of Fame jacket means I

2450
01:40:11,920 --> 01:40:13,479
Speaker 4: did everything the right way every single day.

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01:40:13,479 --> 01:40:14,519
Speaker 1: I would take that over the ring.

2452
01:40:14,600 --> 01:40:17,040
Speaker 2: I think, well, I'm going to jump on your back

2453
01:40:17,080 --> 01:40:18,680
Speaker 2: and say that I worked for the Robbie family in

2454
01:40:18,720 --> 01:40:21,840
Speaker 2: Florida several years, and I did work as a pr

2455
01:40:21,920 --> 01:40:23,400
Speaker 2: guy for the four Little of Theale Strikers in the

2456
01:40:23,479 --> 01:40:25,400
Speaker 2: Miami Dolphins. And when I think of a guy with

2457
01:40:25,479 --> 01:40:26,920
Speaker 2: a Hall of Fame jacket who didn't get a ring,

2458
01:40:26,960 --> 01:40:29,799
Speaker 2: I'm thinking of Dan Marino. So and I love Dan Marino.

2459
01:40:29,880 --> 01:40:31,599
Speaker 2: I think he was great, and he was the godfather

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01:40:31,680 --> 01:40:33,680
Speaker 2: of the forward pass. So I think I'd rather get

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01:40:33,680 --> 01:40:35,400
Speaker 2: the jacket. I think I'd rather get the jacket in

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01:40:35,400 --> 01:40:37,320
Speaker 2: the ring, which the legacy is right there, and everybody

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01:40:37,400 --> 01:40:39,960
Speaker 2: knows Dan Marino. Then, you know, when you talk about

2464
01:40:40,000 --> 01:40:41,600
Speaker 2: Dan Marine, I don't think many people even realize he

2465
01:40:41,600 --> 01:40:44,040
Speaker 2: didn't win the Super Bowl, but it didn't play in one.

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01:40:44,160 --> 01:40:47,320
Speaker 2: But the point is that he was a great quarterback

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01:40:47,360 --> 01:40:49,400
Speaker 2: and it will always be known as a great quarterback.

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Speaker 3: So we leave it at that.

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Speaker 2: As far as what hall of fame, I guess the

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01:40:52,880 --> 01:40:54,439
Speaker 2: hall of fame that the sport that I play in,

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01:40:54,479 --> 01:40:55,600
Speaker 2: that's the hall of fame I want to be in.

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01:40:55,720 --> 01:40:57,920
Speaker 2: But I think the hall of Fame that really carries

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01:40:58,240 --> 01:41:02,160
Speaker 2: maybe the most weight is only Baseball. Although they're foolish

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01:41:02,280 --> 01:41:05,080
Speaker 2: enough to have the ceremonies during the regular season when

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01:41:05,160 --> 01:41:07,680
Speaker 2: games are being played, where other sports have them on

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01:41:07,760 --> 01:41:10,679
Speaker 2: a separate date and stand alone. I wish baseball would

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01:41:10,680 --> 01:41:12,160
Speaker 2: be small enough to do something like that. But I

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01:41:12,200 --> 01:41:15,080
Speaker 2: think the Baseball Hall of Fame really and truly probably

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01:41:15,120 --> 01:41:17,120
Speaker 2: has more history towards it too as well.

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Speaker 1: Well.

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01:41:18,400 --> 01:41:20,599
Speaker 4: History is such a huge part of how baseball fanatics

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01:41:20,720 --> 01:41:22,599
Speaker 4: consume the sport. I think that has to be part

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01:41:22,600 --> 01:41:24,479
Speaker 4: of that too. You know, like when you think about

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01:41:24,560 --> 01:41:27,479
Speaker 4: baseball guy in general, baseball Guy's gonna come at you

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01:41:27,600 --> 01:41:29,599
Speaker 4: with a stat from the fifties or sixties.

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01:41:29,680 --> 01:41:32,040
Speaker 1: Sometimes you know, and then just the history means something.

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01:41:32,080 --> 01:41:34,400
Speaker 4: If you look at the modern NFL, how many people

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01:41:34,520 --> 01:41:37,559
Speaker 4: right now watching the NFL will turn around and say,

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01:41:37,640 --> 01:41:40,720
Speaker 4: you know, Brady and mahomes the best ever and have

2490
01:41:40,840 --> 01:41:42,920
Speaker 4: no concept And I'm not saying they aren't, but they

2491
01:41:42,960 --> 01:41:45,880
Speaker 4: have no concept of Marino or Lway or Montana or

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01:41:45,920 --> 01:41:46,479
Speaker 4: go further back.

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01:41:46,560 --> 01:41:50,840
Speaker 3: Well, you brought up earlier today about Sydney, right, it.

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01:41:50,960 --> 01:41:54,200
Speaker 4: Like it's just such a The past of the NFL

2495
01:41:54,280 --> 01:41:56,559
Speaker 4: looks so different than the current of the NFL.

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01:41:56,600 --> 01:41:59,200
Speaker 1: It feels like two different sports, right, So I'm with you.

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01:41:59,280 --> 01:42:01,920
Speaker 4: I think the weight of the Baseball Hall of Fame,

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01:42:01,960 --> 01:42:04,800
Speaker 4: because of the history that really rules that sport, is

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01:42:04,920 --> 01:42:07,320
Speaker 4: the most impactful. And frankly, I think the NBA Hall

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01:42:07,320 --> 01:42:09,679
Speaker 4: of Fame, the Basketball Hall of Fame, I should say,

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01:42:10,120 --> 01:42:12,439
Speaker 4: is the least impactful because it is the Basketball Hall

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01:42:12,479 --> 01:42:15,000
Speaker 4: of Fame. So you can accomplish great things in college

2503
01:42:15,120 --> 01:42:17,080
Speaker 4: or in Olympic basketball and get in even if your

2504
01:42:17,200 --> 01:42:20,559
Speaker 4: NBA career didn't really warrant. It's that gets confusing for people.

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01:42:20,680 --> 01:42:22,759
Speaker 2: So and the hall of glow shotters of the Basketball

2506
01:42:22,800 --> 01:42:25,160
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame. It's just basketball, period, That's what it is.

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Speaker 2: All Right, We've got to Michael admitted Snoda. Michael, you're

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01:42:28,000 --> 01:42:30,320
Speaker 2: on with Jason Fitz on Fox Sports Sunday.

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Speaker 10: Hey, how you guys doing this horning good?

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01:42:33,560 --> 01:42:33,880
Speaker 1: We're great?

2511
01:42:33,920 --> 01:42:35,880
Speaker 9: How are you, Bob doing good?

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01:42:36,800 --> 01:42:40,559
Speaker 10: Back to the whole Choey Vato is a Hall of Fame?

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01:42:40,640 --> 01:42:42,479
Speaker 10: Or can he get in on a first ballot? If

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01:42:42,520 --> 01:42:45,120
Speaker 10: you don't get in on one, you shouldn't or maybe

2515
01:42:46,160 --> 01:42:48,440
Speaker 10: you know, I just want to bring up Edgar Martinez.

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01:42:48,640 --> 01:42:51,959
Speaker 10: Took him nine or ten years to get in. Definitely

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01:42:52,040 --> 01:42:54,599
Speaker 10: a Hall of Famer, But should they have dropped him

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01:42:54,640 --> 01:42:57,559
Speaker 10: after one year? And they renamed the Designated Hitter Award

2519
01:42:57,640 --> 01:42:59,639
Speaker 10: after him and still took him nine or ten years.

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01:42:59,520 --> 01:42:59,880
Speaker 1: To get in?

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01:43:00,640 --> 01:43:00,800
Speaker 5: Right?

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01:43:00,920 --> 01:43:03,439
Speaker 2: And I think the problem being a DH You know,

2523
01:43:03,520 --> 01:43:06,200
Speaker 2: people want to see regular guy. When Mariano Rivero got

2524
01:43:06,280 --> 01:43:09,360
Speaker 2: any guy on the first ballot one hundred percent, its

2525
01:43:09,400 --> 01:43:12,000
Speaker 2: scratched a lot of people's heads because you know, he

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01:43:12,280 --> 01:43:15,160
Speaker 2: wasn't an everyday player, He wasn't a full time player,

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01:43:15,240 --> 01:43:17,840
Speaker 2: so to speak. He was a specialist and baseball has

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01:43:17,920 --> 01:43:21,080
Speaker 2: these specialists. But I think the younger voters are seeing

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01:43:21,240 --> 01:43:23,920
Speaker 2: that right now. And that's why the sport is morphing

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01:43:24,000 --> 01:43:25,920
Speaker 2: into that you could be a DH and be a

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01:43:25,960 --> 01:43:28,040
Speaker 2: Hall of Famer. You can that there are certain guys

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01:43:28,080 --> 01:43:30,160
Speaker 2: that could do that, you know. It's just the way

2533
01:43:30,240 --> 01:43:31,479
Speaker 2: the sport has been morphed into.

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01:43:31,720 --> 01:43:32,280
Speaker 3: It really has.

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01:43:32,520 --> 01:43:34,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, but I mean, and then you talk about

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01:43:34,760 --> 01:43:40,240
Speaker 4: specializing that, there's there's no better there's no better example

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01:43:40,280 --> 01:43:41,920
Speaker 4: of that in the NFL than the Ray Guy Award,

2538
01:43:42,040 --> 01:43:44,599
Speaker 4: right Like, you got punters out there and it took

2539
01:43:44,720 --> 01:43:46,639
Speaker 4: Ray how long to get in? You know, you think

2540
01:43:46,640 --> 01:43:49,880
Speaker 4: about sort of certain specialized systems that you can be

2541
01:43:49,960 --> 01:43:52,400
Speaker 4: the best ever at what you do. It doesn't necessarily

2542
01:43:52,479 --> 01:43:54,320
Speaker 4: mean that you're a surefire Hall of Famer, you know,

2543
01:43:54,320 --> 01:43:56,960
Speaker 4: and that that's unfortunate, but it's just part of the

2544
01:43:57,000 --> 01:43:59,280
Speaker 4: way the game is the Hall of Fame game, I

2545
01:43:59,320 --> 01:44:02,560
Speaker 4: should say, is played. I do wonder too in that

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01:44:02,720 --> 01:44:04,640
Speaker 4: example again, to go back to what we said, if

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01:44:04,680 --> 01:44:07,240
Speaker 4: you only had one year of eligibility, would there would

2548
01:44:07,280 --> 01:44:08,840
Speaker 4: it have been a nine year system? I don't know,

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01:44:09,000 --> 01:44:11,519
Speaker 4: you know, that's just that that's what people have approached

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01:44:11,560 --> 01:44:14,560
Speaker 4: it differently, with less patients to the specialization.

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Speaker 1: If they thought they only had one chance to vote

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01:44:16,600 --> 01:44:16,840
Speaker 1: for them.

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01:44:17,280 --> 01:44:17,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right.

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01:44:19,000 --> 01:44:21,040
Speaker 2: And look, I'm sure a lot of people have gotten

2555
01:44:21,080 --> 01:44:23,280
Speaker 2: into the Hall of Fame Baseball Hall of Fame. That is,

2556
01:44:23,600 --> 01:44:25,559
Speaker 2: when they're on the ballot for the very last time

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01:44:25,640 --> 01:44:27,840
Speaker 2: and voters are saying, well, if I don't vote for

2558
01:44:27,840 --> 01:44:30,240
Speaker 2: them now, we'll never get in Soday they vote for them,

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01:44:30,439 --> 01:44:31,680
Speaker 2: you know, but why didn't you vote for them the

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01:44:31,720 --> 01:44:34,080
Speaker 2: first time? But that's just the way I'm sure that

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01:44:34,800 --> 01:44:37,880
Speaker 2: many have gotten in. So you just don't know, you know,

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01:44:38,040 --> 01:44:40,559
Speaker 2: this system is. It's never going to be perfect, all right,

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01:44:40,800 --> 01:44:43,120
Speaker 2: But I just think that's a major flaw of the system.

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01:44:43,200 --> 01:44:44,120
Speaker 3: I really do, all right.

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Speaker 2: Jason Fitz Andy Furman, this is Fox Sports Sunday on

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. Now, the question is will NFL players

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01:44:50,920 --> 01:44:53,880
Speaker 2: be participating? Well, that's coming up next live for the

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Speaker 2: ti iraq dot com studios. But first, this guy's always

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01:44:56,439 --> 01:44:58,840
Speaker 2: participating every single Sunday, Kevin.

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Speaker 3: Why we have to participating?

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01:45:00,080 --> 01:45:03,479
Speaker 7: Yes, and we've had plenty of players up participating in

2572
01:45:03,560 --> 01:45:07,120
Speaker 7: college football. On Saturday Week zero, we already got ourselves

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01:45:07,200 --> 01:45:11,080
Speaker 7: a top ten upset man College football is back as

2574
01:45:11,520 --> 01:45:14,599
Speaker 7: Georgia Tech goes to Ireland takes down the number ten

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01:45:14,720 --> 01:45:17,680
Speaker 7: ranked Florida State Seminals, winning it on a field goal

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01:45:18,120 --> 01:45:21,120
Speaker 7: forty fourty yard field goal at the final seconds. Final

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01:45:21,200 --> 01:45:23,519
Speaker 7: score in that one twenty four to twenty one. And

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01:45:23,720 --> 01:45:25,880
Speaker 7: for Georgia Tech, the last time they had a top

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01:45:25,960 --> 01:45:29,759
Speaker 7: ten win was back in twenty fifteen against Florida State,

2580
01:45:30,560 --> 01:45:34,639
Speaker 7: Nevada losing to SMU after the Mustangs get sixteen points

2581
01:45:34,880 --> 01:45:37,599
Speaker 7: late in the fourth quarter to win it twenty nine

2582
01:45:37,600 --> 01:45:41,840
Speaker 7: to twenty four. Montana State are season's first FCS over

2583
01:45:42,000 --> 01:45:44,479
Speaker 7: FBS upset. They go to New Mexico and win it

2584
01:45:44,560 --> 01:45:48,880
Speaker 7: thirty five to thirty one behind three fourth quarter touchdowns.

2585
01:45:48,960 --> 01:45:51,880
Speaker 1: Hawaii the last game of the night out in Honolulu.

2586
01:45:52,000 --> 01:45:54,680
Speaker 7: Delaware State missed their plane getting out there, but they

2587
01:45:54,720 --> 01:45:57,240
Speaker 7: didn't make it in time for the game, but didn't

2588
01:45:57,240 --> 01:46:00,920
Speaker 7: go well should they yes? With how it went fourteen,

2589
01:46:01,520 --> 01:46:06,880
Speaker 7: the Rainbow Warriors win it. On Saturday. Major League Baseball

2590
01:46:07,160 --> 01:46:11,040
Speaker 7: Dodgers have their winning streak snapped at five games by

2591
01:46:11,200 --> 01:46:13,360
Speaker 7: the Tampa Bay Rays. Tampa Bay with home runs of

2592
01:46:13,360 --> 01:46:15,800
Speaker 7: the ninth and tenth inning to win it nine to eight.

2593
01:46:15,880 --> 01:46:19,000
Speaker 7: In the Diamondbacks taking advantage of that, they get their

2594
01:46:19,040 --> 01:46:21,559
Speaker 7: fifth straight win as they beat the Red Sox four

2595
01:46:21,560 --> 01:46:24,320
Speaker 7: to one. Padre Is unable to take advantage. They followed

2596
01:46:24,320 --> 01:46:26,639
Speaker 7: them at seven to one, So the Dodgers a three

2597
01:46:26,720 --> 01:46:30,040
Speaker 7: game lead over Arizona, four and a half on San Diego.

2598
01:46:30,680 --> 01:46:34,479
Speaker 7: In that American League Central, the Cleveland Guardians have a

2599
01:46:34,560 --> 01:46:37,920
Speaker 7: two game lead. That's after they demolished the Texas Rangers

2600
01:46:38,000 --> 01:46:40,559
Speaker 7: thirteen to five. The Twins keep paced with a six

2601
01:46:40,600 --> 01:46:43,599
Speaker 7: tozering shutout win against the Cardinals. The Royals do lose, however,

2602
01:46:43,920 --> 01:46:46,759
Speaker 7: to the Phillies at Real Mo to two home runs

2603
01:46:46,800 --> 01:46:51,360
Speaker 7: to help lift Philadelphia to an eleven to victory. So

2604
01:46:51,720 --> 01:46:55,600
Speaker 7: Cleveland leads both Minnesota and Kansas City by two games.

2605
01:46:56,120 --> 01:46:59,000
Speaker 7: That American League East has been seasawing for much of

2606
01:46:59,080 --> 01:47:02,600
Speaker 7: this year, and once again the Yankees have just a

2607
01:47:02,680 --> 01:47:05,599
Speaker 7: half game lead a top of that division. That's after

2608
01:47:05,680 --> 01:47:07,920
Speaker 7: they lose to the Rockies nine to two. The Orioles

2609
01:47:08,000 --> 01:47:10,880
Speaker 7: do take down the Houston Ashers three to two, and

2610
01:47:11,080 --> 01:47:13,680
Speaker 7: in the Little League World Series, the championship game is

2611
01:47:13,840 --> 01:47:17,519
Speaker 7: set three o'clock Eastern time over in williams Port. It'll

2612
01:47:17,520 --> 01:47:21,920
Speaker 7: feature Taiwan facing Florida for the Little League World Series title,

2613
01:47:22,479 --> 01:47:25,719
Speaker 7: and in the WNBA, Caitlin Clark in action on a Saturday,

2614
01:47:25,800 --> 01:47:27,920
Speaker 7: she had twenty three points eight assists, but the fever

2615
01:47:28,040 --> 01:47:30,679
Speaker 7: to lose to Minnesota ninety to eighty.

2616
01:47:30,840 --> 01:47:32,880
Speaker 3: Back to you guys, all right, Ken, thank you so much.

2617
01:47:33,040 --> 01:47:35,160
Speaker 2: People will do the same functions and jobs in life,

2618
01:47:35,520 --> 01:47:37,920
Speaker 2: don't necessarily get paid the same. We'll talk about that

2619
01:47:38,000 --> 01:47:40,639
Speaker 2: in just about a minute. He's Jason Fitz Andy furmanw

2620
01:47:40,640 --> 01:47:43,080
Speaker 2: weel Fox Sports sounding on Fox Sports Radio. We've got

2621
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Speaker 2: the blame game coming up in about seven eight minutes

2622
01:47:45,320 --> 01:47:48,720
Speaker 2: from now. But after the show today, our podcast wll

2623
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Speaker 2: this show Fox Sports Sunday posted right after we get

2629
01:48:06,760 --> 01:48:08,479
Speaker 2: off the air. Now, why do I bring that up

2630
01:48:08,520 --> 01:48:10,880
Speaker 2: about doing the job the same job as someone else,

2631
01:48:10,880 --> 01:48:13,679
Speaker 2: you don't get paid the same. Because Jamar Chase, receiver

2632
01:48:13,880 --> 01:48:16,599
Speaker 2: for the Cincinnati Bengals, he wants four years of one

2633
01:48:16,680 --> 01:48:19,960
Speaker 2: hundred and sixty MILI. That's an extension on his contract

2634
01:48:20,000 --> 01:48:23,479
Speaker 2: with the Cincinnati Bengals. But he has two years left

2635
01:48:23,520 --> 01:48:25,880
Speaker 2: on his contract. So I ask you, this is it

2636
01:48:26,000 --> 01:48:28,800
Speaker 2: the only way to get I guess sports is the

2637
01:48:28,960 --> 01:48:31,880
Speaker 2: only business out there where you have to sit out

2638
01:48:32,160 --> 01:48:34,960
Speaker 2: to change your contract. Try that in any bit of business.

2639
01:48:35,040 --> 01:48:37,960
Speaker 2: Try that in our business. Say we go to management tomorrow,

2640
01:48:38,280 --> 01:48:41,519
Speaker 2: say I got a contract. I want to rip it up,

2641
01:48:41,560 --> 01:48:43,679
Speaker 2: and you know redo, you know, they'll say, there's the door,

2642
01:48:44,120 --> 01:48:46,560
Speaker 2: go ahead, sports, And I guess you gotta do it

2643
01:48:46,640 --> 01:48:49,320
Speaker 2: that way, otherwise you're not going to get a new deal.

2644
01:48:49,360 --> 01:48:51,919
Speaker 3: But I don't know why people don't honor that contract.

2645
01:48:52,000 --> 01:48:54,160
Speaker 2: I get it. You know, the next play you can

2646
01:48:54,200 --> 01:48:56,160
Speaker 2: be finished for live you get injured. I get that,

2647
01:48:56,600 --> 01:48:58,560
Speaker 2: But one hundred and sixty MILLI wants one hundred and

2648
01:48:58,560 --> 01:49:01,760
Speaker 2: twenty of it guaranteed. And look, he's sitting out.

2649
01:49:01,960 --> 01:49:04,080
Speaker 3: What else can he do? What else can he do?

2650
01:49:04,280 --> 01:49:06,759
Speaker 3: He has not played in one game.

2651
01:49:06,680 --> 01:49:11,040
Speaker 2: Thus far this preseason for the Cincinni Bengals, and he's

2652
01:49:11,040 --> 01:49:13,160
Speaker 2: got a history of doing this because his junior year

2653
01:49:13,160 --> 01:49:16,160
Speaker 2: at LSU. I guess for COVID he didn't play as well,

2654
01:49:16,240 --> 01:49:19,200
Speaker 2: he sat out. So I don't understand that. I just

2655
01:49:19,200 --> 01:49:21,600
Speaker 2: don't understand the whole situation. It's a turnoff to me.

2656
01:49:21,680 --> 01:49:24,280
Speaker 2: I think it's so much selfish, selfish to your teammates.

2657
01:49:24,520 --> 01:49:27,320
Speaker 2: And honestly, if you talk about a guy who should

2658
01:49:27,360 --> 01:49:30,840
Speaker 2: be peeled with their contract, what about brock Party, the

2659
01:49:30,960 --> 01:49:32,280
Speaker 2: forty nine ers quarterback.

2660
01:49:32,479 --> 01:49:33,639
Speaker 3: He's been real quiet.

2661
01:49:33,439 --> 01:49:35,479
Speaker 2: About his and he only made eight hundred and eighty

2662
01:49:35,560 --> 01:49:36,760
Speaker 2: nine thousand last year.

2663
01:49:36,960 --> 01:49:38,200
Speaker 3: Think about that for a minute.

2664
01:49:39,520 --> 01:49:42,080
Speaker 4: You're right that Brock absolutely would have every right to

2665
01:49:42,120 --> 01:49:44,840
Speaker 4: do the same thing. The hard part in the league

2666
01:49:45,000 --> 01:49:47,320
Speaker 4: is that guys understand their value more than ever, and

2667
01:49:47,400 --> 01:49:49,560
Speaker 4: they understand that when a team's done with them, the

2668
01:49:49,640 --> 01:49:51,679
Speaker 4: team will be done with them. Jamar is not gonna

2669
01:49:51,680 --> 01:49:53,600
Speaker 4: have to worry about that at any point soon. But

2670
01:49:54,160 --> 01:49:57,360
Speaker 4: let's be real. If to use your example, you and

2671
01:49:57,439 --> 01:50:00,360
Speaker 4: I go to management, were up a kite going to

2672
01:50:00,439 --> 01:50:02,600
Speaker 4: absolutely throw us away right like, there's no doubt about that.

2673
01:50:03,000 --> 01:50:04,719
Speaker 1: But we're being real about Jamar.

2674
01:50:05,040 --> 01:50:07,559
Speaker 4: He knows he has the leverage right now, and if

2675
01:50:07,600 --> 01:50:09,559
Speaker 4: he uses the leverage right now, he can make as

2676
01:50:09,640 --> 01:50:11,439
Speaker 4: much money as possible right now.

2677
01:50:11,560 --> 01:50:13,519
Speaker 1: And when you have a limited earning window, I mean.

2678
01:50:13,760 --> 01:50:15,799
Speaker 4: It's just sort of the way if you have the leverage,

2679
01:50:15,840 --> 01:50:17,720
Speaker 4: considering the fact that the league will always use the

2680
01:50:17,800 --> 01:50:20,559
Speaker 4: leverage if they have it on you, why not use

2681
01:50:20,600 --> 01:50:21,840
Speaker 4: the leverage if you have it on them.

2682
01:50:22,000 --> 01:50:24,519
Speaker 1: It's a rare situation to be in.

2683
01:50:25,080 --> 01:50:28,680
Speaker 4: But if you're Jamar and you actually control your destiny financially,

2684
01:50:29,080 --> 01:50:30,840
Speaker 4: I mean, if you and I had the chance to

2685
01:50:30,880 --> 01:50:32,840
Speaker 4: go to management and say, you know what we want

2686
01:50:32,880 --> 01:50:33,360
Speaker 4: to raise and.

2687
01:50:33,400 --> 01:50:35,200
Speaker 1: We know that we would get it, would we do it?

2688
01:50:35,400 --> 01:50:36,360
Speaker 1: I probably would, like.

2689
01:50:36,760 --> 01:50:38,920
Speaker 4: So that's the hard part about I don't disagree with

2690
01:50:39,040 --> 01:50:41,640
Speaker 4: doing concept that. You know, it's a tough look. But

2691
01:50:41,760 --> 01:50:44,200
Speaker 4: I'm also looking at and saying I don't know, man like,

2692
01:50:44,880 --> 01:50:46,599
Speaker 4: if I could do it, I would. If I knew

2693
01:50:46,640 --> 01:50:48,080
Speaker 4: that I was gonna get way more money to do it,

2694
01:50:48,120 --> 01:50:48,960
Speaker 4: I'd do in the heartbeat.

2695
01:50:49,400 --> 01:50:51,800
Speaker 2: CD lamb led the league in receptions last year. He's

2696
01:50:51,800 --> 01:50:53,800
Speaker 2: the guy who deserves the money. He's a ring lader,

2697
01:50:53,920 --> 01:50:55,679
Speaker 2: justin Jefferson gots some big time money.

2698
01:50:55,840 --> 01:50:56,479
Speaker 1: He really did.

2699
01:50:56,920 --> 01:50:59,880
Speaker 2: And again I'll say this, people who do the same

2700
01:51:00,080 --> 01:51:02,680
Speaker 2: function in life, and they do the same job in

2701
01:51:02,760 --> 01:51:04,840
Speaker 2: life do not get paid the same. You could be

2702
01:51:04,960 --> 01:51:08,080
Speaker 2: a news anchor on a TV station in Minnesota and

2703
01:51:08,160 --> 01:51:10,479
Speaker 2: a news anchor on a TV station in LA and

2704
01:51:10,560 --> 01:51:12,200
Speaker 2: the guy in the Elie's probably gonna get more money

2705
01:51:12,200 --> 01:51:14,240
Speaker 2: than you, and Minnesota, you're doing the same function.

2706
01:51:14,439 --> 01:51:16,160
Speaker 3: You may be even working harder than him.

2707
01:51:16,400 --> 01:51:18,400
Speaker 2: So you could do the same function as someone else

2708
01:51:18,520 --> 01:51:21,200
Speaker 2: does not necessarily mean you're gonna get paid the same

2709
01:51:21,240 --> 01:51:22,439
Speaker 2: as someone else, just just.

2710
01:51:22,479 --> 01:51:22,960
Speaker 3: The way it is.

2711
01:51:24,120 --> 01:51:25,599
Speaker 1: No, you're right about that one hundred percent.

2712
01:51:25,720 --> 01:51:28,120
Speaker 4: But if you know that you're in a situation where

2713
01:51:28,479 --> 01:51:30,640
Speaker 4: you know, if you're walking onto a set somewhere, if

2714
01:51:30,680 --> 01:51:33,200
Speaker 4: you're walking onto a stage somewhere, you're walking into your company,

2715
01:51:33,439 --> 01:51:35,080
Speaker 4: if you're walking into your company, and you know that

2716
01:51:35,240 --> 01:51:38,519
Speaker 4: everybody else is making you know, everybody else that does

2717
01:51:38,560 --> 01:51:41,479
Speaker 4: your job as well as you do is making more.

2718
01:51:41,439 --> 01:51:43,120
Speaker 1: Money, then you're gonna go ask for a raise.

2719
01:51:43,200 --> 01:51:45,320
Speaker 4: And this is the one time that you know you've

2720
01:51:45,320 --> 01:51:47,479
Speaker 4: got somebody that can come in and say, I'm gonna

2721
01:51:47,520 --> 01:51:49,280
Speaker 4: ask for a raise. And by the way, if you

2722
01:51:49,320 --> 01:51:51,680
Speaker 4: don't give it to me, I'm just not gonna I'm

2723
01:51:51,720 --> 01:51:53,880
Speaker 4: not gonna practice, I'm not gonna put my body at risk.

2724
01:51:53,960 --> 01:51:56,639
Speaker 4: I mean, this is this is sort of the leverage

2725
01:51:56,680 --> 01:51:59,920
Speaker 4: opportunity that he has by being in the situation, that is,

2726
01:52:00,760 --> 01:52:03,080
Speaker 4: by being so stinking good, Right, that's the other part

2727
01:52:03,080 --> 01:52:05,240
Speaker 4: of it, like he knows he's great, he knows that

2728
01:52:05,360 --> 01:52:08,120
Speaker 4: he's got them, and it's rare for anybody to turn

2729
01:52:08,160 --> 01:52:11,679
Speaker 4: around and really have any leverage against the league, against

2730
01:52:11,720 --> 01:52:12,040
Speaker 4: the team.

2731
01:52:12,240 --> 01:52:15,080
Speaker 1: But when you're one of the five best at your position, man, Like,

2732
01:52:15,479 --> 01:52:16,479
Speaker 1: this is just a new era.

2733
01:52:16,680 --> 01:52:19,320
Speaker 4: This isn't you know the eighties, nineties, two thousands, where

2734
01:52:19,680 --> 01:52:22,960
Speaker 4: you know, players had no opportunity to be their own businessman.

2735
01:52:23,000 --> 01:52:25,759
Speaker 1: Players now more than ever, understand their value.

2736
01:52:25,840 --> 01:52:27,320
Speaker 4: And I think you're only going to see more and

2737
01:52:27,439 --> 01:52:29,759
Speaker 4: more of this as we look at a college generation

2738
01:52:29,880 --> 01:52:31,320
Speaker 4: that's growing up right now in a name Him his

2739
01:52:31,439 --> 01:52:34,920
Speaker 4: Likeness world that truly understands, Hey, every single year, I

2740
01:52:35,280 --> 01:52:38,200
Speaker 4: want the opportunity to renegotiate. Like, that's going to be

2741
01:52:38,280 --> 01:52:40,719
Speaker 4: interesting to see what happens when we get this generation

2742
01:52:40,880 --> 01:52:44,080
Speaker 4: of athletes becomes professional and then they're sitting around with

2743
01:52:44,120 --> 01:52:46,080
Speaker 4: the team saying, I don't care about the contract, just

2744
01:52:46,200 --> 01:52:47,800
Speaker 4: like you don't care about the contract if you can

2745
01:52:47,840 --> 01:52:50,040
Speaker 4: cut me at any time. Like the real answer to this,

2746
01:52:50,160 --> 01:52:53,799
Speaker 4: if the NFL hates it, is make all contracts fully guaranteed.

2747
01:52:54,080 --> 01:52:56,679
Speaker 4: Then all of a sudden, nobody can nobody from either

2748
01:52:56,760 --> 01:52:59,479
Speaker 4: side can yell at each other like you're signing something

2749
01:52:59,479 --> 01:53:01,840
Speaker 4: fully garan. It won't be renegotiated and it will be

2750
01:53:01,880 --> 01:53:03,880
Speaker 4: paid in full. But that the league is going to

2751
01:53:03,920 --> 01:53:05,360
Speaker 4: push back on that every single time.

2752
01:53:05,479 --> 01:53:06,120
Speaker 3: No doubt about that.

2753
01:53:06,240 --> 01:53:08,479
Speaker 2: You know, when I think about people sitting out, I

2754
01:53:08,600 --> 01:53:11,479
Speaker 2: have the vision of Le'Veon Bell back in twenty eighteen

2755
01:53:11,520 --> 01:53:12,120
Speaker 2: with the Stealers.

2756
01:53:12,160 --> 01:53:13,760
Speaker 3: He said, what did that get him?

2757
01:53:14,040 --> 01:53:15,960
Speaker 2: Why would you sit out and lose an entire year's

2758
01:53:16,000 --> 01:53:18,519
Speaker 2: contract and plus on the entire year of your skill set.

2759
01:53:19,280 --> 01:53:23,040
Speaker 2: I don't understand me where these people get this advice from? Really,

2760
01:53:23,280 --> 01:53:25,719
Speaker 2: and to me, I get it. I know he's making

2761
01:53:26,000 --> 01:53:29,600
Speaker 2: twenty six meal this year, Jamar chases and he's not

2762
01:53:29,720 --> 01:53:30,760
Speaker 2: looking for his next meal?

2763
01:53:31,680 --> 01:53:32,320
Speaker 3: Is it an egle?

2764
01:53:32,439 --> 01:53:32,599
Speaker 1: Thing?

2765
01:53:32,800 --> 01:53:36,120
Speaker 2: Is because someone in his position is getting more than

2766
01:53:36,160 --> 01:53:38,080
Speaker 2: he is and he thinks he's better than them. I

2767
01:53:38,120 --> 01:53:41,120
Speaker 2: don't understand why. It's like you could live very nicely

2768
01:53:41,200 --> 01:53:44,800
Speaker 2: on twenty six million dollars. You really can, so what's

2769
01:53:44,840 --> 01:53:47,200
Speaker 2: the big deal? And you're hurting your team by trying

2770
01:53:47,240 --> 01:53:50,000
Speaker 2: to ask for more pieces of the pie because there's

2771
01:53:50,040 --> 01:53:51,360
Speaker 2: nothing left for anyone else.

2772
01:53:51,680 --> 01:53:54,519
Speaker 3: And I remember after that Baltimore Ravens won the Super.

2773
01:53:54,320 --> 01:53:57,200
Speaker 2: Bowl when Joe Flappo backed up his truck and took

2774
01:53:57,240 --> 01:53:59,280
Speaker 2: all the money and no one else had anything left

2775
01:53:59,400 --> 01:54:01,680
Speaker 2: for them, and that's why the Ravens went down the

2776
01:54:01,760 --> 01:54:02,360
Speaker 2: tube after that.

2777
01:54:03,160 --> 01:54:05,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, but the counter to that is that somebody right

2778
01:54:06,000 --> 01:54:08,280
Speaker 4: now that is working their tail off at a job

2779
01:54:08,360 --> 01:54:10,840
Speaker 4: that's making forty grand a year will look at somebody

2780
01:54:10,920 --> 01:54:13,519
Speaker 4: making one hundred and fifty years say hey, like, what

2781
01:54:13,600 --> 01:54:15,960
Speaker 4: are you complaining about? But you know how many people

2782
01:54:16,040 --> 01:54:18,080
Speaker 4: right now making one hundred and fifty year are sitting

2783
01:54:18,120 --> 01:54:20,439
Speaker 4: there saying, well, you know, I really should take less

2784
01:54:20,439 --> 01:54:22,280
Speaker 4: because it will help my company. Like that's what we're

2785
01:54:22,320 --> 01:54:24,639
Speaker 4: asking the athlete to do in this situation, Tom.

2786
01:54:24,439 --> 01:54:25,759
Speaker 3: Brady did, Brady.

2787
01:54:25,800 --> 01:54:28,720
Speaker 1: But yeah, well that's one person, you know, And some

2788
01:54:28,800 --> 01:54:29,800
Speaker 1: people certainly have the right.

2789
01:54:29,840 --> 01:54:31,760
Speaker 4: Like if you love working for Google and you want

2790
01:54:31,800 --> 01:54:34,280
Speaker 4: to make less money, but because it helps Google.

2791
01:54:34,240 --> 01:54:34,680
Speaker 1: Good on you.

2792
01:54:34,800 --> 01:54:37,320
Speaker 4: But that shouldn't be the standard for everybody. And you're right,

2793
01:54:37,360 --> 01:54:41,240
Speaker 4: twenty six million is obviously generational wealth. But also if

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01:54:41,280 --> 01:54:43,560
Speaker 4: I look around, I'm like, well, twenty six million, I

2795
01:54:43,680 --> 01:54:45,920
Speaker 4: know my worth, Like so many young people I work

2796
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Speaker 4: with say the phrase all the time, know your worth.

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01:54:48,360 --> 01:54:50,640
Speaker 4: And there is some power to this to looking around

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Speaker 4: saying I think I'm one of the five best, and

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01:54:52,520 --> 01:54:54,040
Speaker 4: I'm not paid like one of the five best, I

2800
01:54:54,160 --> 01:54:56,720
Speaker 4: never have to work again, Like, so I'm not going

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01:54:56,800 --> 01:54:59,040
Speaker 4: to I've got buddies in the music business that were

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01:54:59,240 --> 01:55:02,280
Speaker 4: very successful that never have to work again, And every

2803
01:55:02,320 --> 01:55:04,600
Speaker 4: time somebody comes to them with an opportunity, if it's

2804
01:55:04,680 --> 01:55:07,440
Speaker 4: not exactly perfect, they simply don't do it. Doesn't mean

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01:55:07,440 --> 01:55:09,800
Speaker 4: they don't love music, No, it means that they just

2806
01:55:09,880 --> 01:55:11,600
Speaker 4: don't have to do it because they don't have to

2807
01:55:11,680 --> 01:55:14,920
Speaker 4: do anything. So Jamar Chase doesn't have to do anything anymore.

2808
01:55:14,920 --> 01:55:16,520
Speaker 4: You can walk away from the game if he wants to.

2809
01:55:16,760 --> 01:55:18,760
Speaker 4: Got twenty six million dollars You're making in the bank.

2810
01:55:18,760 --> 01:55:21,360
Speaker 4: You've made so much money, so now it really is

2811
01:55:21,400 --> 01:55:23,920
Speaker 4: to know you're worth society. And I just like, look,

2812
01:55:23,960 --> 01:55:26,320
Speaker 4: if you and I took less money, Fox Sports Radio

2813
01:55:26,320 --> 01:55:28,200
Speaker 4: would be really happy. But are we going to take

2814
01:55:28,240 --> 01:55:30,160
Speaker 4: less money to keep Fox Sports Radio happy?

2815
01:55:30,520 --> 01:55:30,560
Speaker 8: No?

2816
01:55:30,680 --> 01:55:33,160
Speaker 1: Would it make for a better team, Yes, are we

2817
01:55:33,240 --> 01:55:33,720
Speaker 1: gonna do that?

2818
01:55:34,000 --> 01:55:34,040
Speaker 2: No?

2819
01:55:34,360 --> 01:55:36,640
Speaker 4: So, like I can't hold Jamar to a different standard

2820
01:55:36,680 --> 01:55:37,640
Speaker 4: than I would hold myself to.

2821
01:55:38,480 --> 01:55:40,640
Speaker 2: I hear that I don't have an answer for this.

2822
01:55:40,760 --> 01:55:42,400
Speaker 2: I just don't like looking at it. I think it's

2823
01:55:42,440 --> 01:55:45,280
Speaker 2: a turnoff for teammates. I think it's a turnoff for fans,

2824
01:55:45,640 --> 01:55:47,680
Speaker 2: and maybe some teammates are running form. I don't know

2825
01:55:48,000 --> 01:55:50,280
Speaker 2: the inner workings of the locker room there, but I

2826
01:55:50,480 --> 01:55:53,160
Speaker 2: just don't think it's a healthy environment by doing something

2827
01:55:53,200 --> 01:55:55,240
Speaker 2: like that with a team. All right, he's Jason Fitz.

2828
01:55:55,280 --> 01:55:58,320
Speaker 2: I'm Andy Furman. We are Fox Sports Sunday on Fox

2829
01:55:58,360 --> 01:56:01,360
Speaker 2: Sports Radio. It is time eight the gloves off, point

2830
01:56:01,400 --> 01:56:05,320
Speaker 2: your finger. Why the blame game is freaking next? The

2831
01:56:05,400 --> 01:56:07,760
Speaker 2: blame game coming right up. It's about eleven minutes now

2832
01:56:07,800 --> 01:56:10,040
Speaker 2: before the top of the hour. He's Jason fitzin for

2833
01:56:10,080 --> 01:56:13,080
Speaker 2: a bucket Brooks on Andy Furman. We are Fox Sports

2834
01:56:13,120 --> 01:56:14,920
Speaker 2: Sunday of Fox Sport's ready and we're lying for the

2835
01:56:14,960 --> 01:56:16,280
Speaker 2: Tyrock dot Com studios.

2836
01:56:16,560 --> 01:56:18,680
Speaker 3: Let's play the blame game with me.

2837
01:56:18,880 --> 01:56:22,640
Speaker 1: It's all your fault, it's your fault. What is all

2838
01:56:22,720 --> 01:56:23,480
Speaker 1: your faulty?

2839
01:56:26,800 --> 01:56:29,200
Speaker 3: Maybe it's everyone's faults.

2840
01:56:29,360 --> 01:56:31,960
Speaker 1: She's a liar. That's why there's the blame game, the

2841
01:56:32,040 --> 01:56:32,560
Speaker 1: blame game.

2842
01:56:32,680 --> 01:56:34,200
Speaker 3: Let's figure out who to blame.

2843
01:56:35,000 --> 01:56:35,680
Speaker 1: He's a liar.

2844
01:56:35,800 --> 01:56:38,720
Speaker 3: Shasha's a liar. Go ahead, Shay she take care of it.

2845
01:56:39,240 --> 01:56:41,760
Speaker 8: Welcome into the blame game, guys, the game where I

2846
01:56:41,920 --> 01:56:45,600
Speaker 8: tell sports stories from around the world and Jason and

2847
01:56:45,720 --> 01:56:48,840
Speaker 8: Andy tell me who they blame. Let's get right into it.

2848
01:56:48,960 --> 01:56:51,360
Speaker 8: There's never been a better time for women's sports in

2849
01:56:51,400 --> 01:56:56,760
Speaker 8: this country. The most American medallists. Oh sorry, the WNBA

2850
01:56:56,920 --> 01:56:59,920
Speaker 8: is exploding in popularity, the NWSL is on the rise.

2851
01:57:00,240 --> 01:57:04,200
Speaker 8: Women won most of America's medals at the high profile Olympics.

2852
01:57:04,680 --> 01:57:06,720
Speaker 8: So why is women's field hockey bombing out?

2853
01:57:06,800 --> 01:57:07,920
Speaker 1: Who is to blame? Andy?

2854
01:57:07,920 --> 01:57:08,560
Speaker 8: Even start with you?

2855
01:57:08,840 --> 01:57:09,560
Speaker 3: Oh that's easy.

2856
01:57:09,680 --> 01:57:12,080
Speaker 2: First of all, the women's field hockey team was won

2857
01:57:12,160 --> 01:57:14,680
Speaker 2: three and one in Paris, so they stunk, okay.

2858
01:57:15,040 --> 01:57:17,120
Speaker 3: And more than that, you need a face for the sport.

2859
01:57:17,280 --> 01:57:18,120
Speaker 3: I don't know who to face.

2860
01:57:18,280 --> 01:57:20,280
Speaker 2: Is get a good look, good woman for a face

2861
01:57:20,320 --> 01:57:22,080
Speaker 2: of the sport who could play the game of field

2862
01:57:22,120 --> 01:57:23,840
Speaker 2: hockey and maybe someone will follow them.

2863
01:57:24,040 --> 01:57:26,320
Speaker 3: That's what they need. Other than that, no one cares.

2864
01:57:28,240 --> 01:57:28,520
Speaker 8: Jason.

2865
01:57:28,680 --> 01:57:31,520
Speaker 4: I mean, how many people would it take to have

2866
01:57:32,240 --> 01:57:36,280
Speaker 4: great growth in field hockey viewership like six? I mean,

2867
01:57:36,760 --> 01:57:40,280
Speaker 4: how many people actually pay attention to this. I'm being

2868
01:57:40,480 --> 01:57:44,520
Speaker 4: you know, sarcastic here, but I'm also sort of not like, look,

2869
01:57:44,800 --> 01:57:46,680
Speaker 4: I hear all the time from everybody the growth of

2870
01:57:47,680 --> 01:57:51,280
Speaker 4: lacrosse obviously, and obviously that's happening, that's all over the place,

2871
01:57:51,360 --> 01:57:52,080
Speaker 4: But it just takes.

2872
01:57:51,960 --> 01:57:53,000
Speaker 1: A long time to bubble up.

2873
01:57:53,120 --> 01:57:55,240
Speaker 4: I think we have to remember that the WNBA even

2874
01:57:55,280 --> 01:57:57,320
Speaker 4: has been bubbling up for a very long time, Like

2875
01:57:57,640 --> 01:57:59,920
Speaker 4: it takes several years of simmering, like a good suit,

2876
01:58:00,360 --> 01:58:01,720
Speaker 4: and then all of a sudden, you got to have a.

2877
01:58:01,720 --> 01:58:02,520
Speaker 1: Superstar come in.

2878
01:58:02,720 --> 01:58:05,960
Speaker 4: So I don't know who's to blame, necessarily, I just

2879
01:58:06,000 --> 01:58:08,760
Speaker 4: don't know who's watching. I just I blamed the sport

2880
01:58:08,800 --> 01:58:10,560
Speaker 4: as a whole because they just don't think people are

2881
01:58:10,960 --> 01:58:13,360
Speaker 4: clamoring to watch field hockey at any level right now.

2882
01:58:13,760 --> 01:58:16,360
Speaker 4: At least basketball is something that people at every level

2883
01:58:16,400 --> 01:58:17,840
Speaker 4: have been watching for a long time. I don't know

2884
01:58:17,840 --> 01:58:19,040
Speaker 4: a lot of people that are like, oh god, you

2885
01:58:19,120 --> 01:58:20,760
Speaker 4: want to go to the field hockey match tonight, Like,

2886
01:58:21,000 --> 01:58:22,240
Speaker 4: I just don't that doesn't exist.

2887
01:58:23,280 --> 01:58:25,040
Speaker 8: Miami don't even know if they play field hockey in

2888
01:58:25,080 --> 01:58:25,920
Speaker 8: the spring of the fall.

2889
01:58:26,080 --> 01:58:28,480
Speaker 2: Really, I really don't. Is it a spring sport or

2890
01:58:28,480 --> 01:58:29,720
Speaker 2: a full sport. I think it's full.

2891
01:58:32,080 --> 01:58:36,919
Speaker 8: I don't think anyone knows that, all right, next. Miami

2892
01:58:37,080 --> 01:58:41,360
Speaker 8: of Ohio football head coach Chuck Martin has accused Alabama

2893
01:58:41,400 --> 01:58:47,520
Speaker 8: of illegally recruiting All America placekicker Graham Nicholson. Alabama coach

2894
01:58:48,000 --> 01:58:53,240
Speaker 8: Kaitlin Debauer denies. Andy.

2895
01:58:54,040 --> 01:58:57,640
Speaker 2: Uh, you know what, though, God bless Chuck Martin for

2896
01:58:57,800 --> 01:59:01,360
Speaker 2: the Miami Hurricane. No, not the Hurricane. He's the RedHawks

2897
01:59:01,600 --> 01:59:05,600
Speaker 2: Miami of Ohio. Because he's pointing a finger. Alabama probably

2898
01:59:05,760 --> 01:59:08,520
Speaker 2: did go after that kicker before he even went into

2899
01:59:08,560 --> 01:59:11,240
Speaker 2: the portal. So I'm gonna Chuck Moore. I like Chuck Morton.

2900
01:59:11,440 --> 01:59:13,600
Speaker 2: He wouldn't have done this if he didn't believe in it.

2901
01:59:13,800 --> 01:59:15,680
Speaker 2: And then when I asked Kaylen de Boor about that,

2902
01:59:16,000 --> 01:59:18,560
Speaker 2: he says, I don't know what you talk about. Come on, really,

2903
01:59:18,960 --> 01:59:21,320
Speaker 2: come on, you stole the kicker from Miami.

2904
01:59:21,640 --> 01:59:22,360
Speaker 1: You are fulked.

2905
01:59:23,560 --> 01:59:25,640
Speaker 4: Hey, look I love it. Welcome to the big time coach. Like,

2906
01:59:25,680 --> 01:59:27,680
Speaker 4: if you're gonna get out there and you're gonna, you know,

2907
01:59:27,800 --> 01:59:30,560
Speaker 4: start stealing recruits, I love it. But risking anything for

2908
01:59:30,640 --> 01:59:32,640
Speaker 4: a kicker makes no sense to me. Like we've gone

2909
01:59:32,680 --> 01:59:35,280
Speaker 4: from you know, a spot where we sit here and

2910
01:59:35,320 --> 01:59:37,920
Speaker 4: hear about Saban not even offering scholarships to kickers to

2911
01:59:37,960 --> 01:59:40,000
Speaker 4: where like Kaylen de Bor is actually turning around and

2912
01:59:40,120 --> 01:59:42,160
Speaker 4: like stealings, stealing kickers.

2913
01:59:42,240 --> 01:59:43,280
Speaker 9: So I don't know good.

2914
01:59:43,400 --> 01:59:46,040
Speaker 4: You know who to blame here is Kayln de Bor,

2915
01:59:46,120 --> 01:59:48,360
Speaker 4: But the real winner here is the kicker who now

2916
01:59:48,440 --> 01:59:50,880
Speaker 4: gets to go to Alabama and live like a golden god.

2917
01:59:53,120 --> 01:59:57,360
Speaker 8: Colorado has banned Denver Post columnist Sean Keeler from asking

2918
01:59:57,600 --> 02:00:01,600
Speaker 8: questions of football coach Dion Sanders or other members of

2919
02:00:01,640 --> 02:00:03,800
Speaker 8: the football program. Who do you blame?

2920
02:00:06,280 --> 02:00:09,600
Speaker 4: I blame the sid and the athletic director of Colorado

2921
02:00:09,600 --> 02:00:12,520
Speaker 4: Football for letting this happen. There's absolutely no world where

2922
02:00:13,080 --> 02:00:15,120
Speaker 4: they should be able to block somebody because they don't

2923
02:00:15,160 --> 02:00:16,400
Speaker 4: like the way the reporting is done.

2924
02:00:16,480 --> 02:00:18,120
Speaker 1: That person still has a job to do. You don't

2925
02:00:18,160 --> 02:00:19,560
Speaker 1: have to answer their questions.

2926
02:00:19,360 --> 02:00:21,440
Speaker 4: But to tell them they can't even ask him, it's childish,

2927
02:00:21,480 --> 02:00:24,280
Speaker 4: it's cowardly, and it absolutely shows that Colorado is not

2928
02:00:24,360 --> 02:00:25,920
Speaker 4: in the big time of college football programs.

2929
02:00:25,960 --> 02:00:27,360
Speaker 1: Nick Saban would never have done the same.

2930
02:00:27,920 --> 02:00:30,120
Speaker 2: I love Sean Keeler of the dev Post. I'm gonna

2931
02:00:30,160 --> 02:00:32,560
Speaker 2: start reading him. He called Deon Sanders the Bruce Lee

2932
02:00:32,600 --> 02:00:33,040
Speaker 2: of BS.

2933
02:00:33,320 --> 02:00:34,080
Speaker 3: I love this guy.

2934
02:00:34,360 --> 02:00:37,400
Speaker 2: You know what, it's an embarrassment. Where's the president of Colorado?

2935
02:00:37,520 --> 02:00:41,360
Speaker 2: How do you let this happen? It is ridiculous, It's unbelievable.

2936
02:00:41,400 --> 02:00:44,800
Speaker 2: It's ridiculous. But wait till you hear this nil bombshell

2937
02:00:44,960 --> 02:00:47,960
Speaker 2: that is so much more. Where Fox Sports Sunday right

2938
02:00:48,040 --> 02:00:52,560
Speaker 2: here next. It's just not working. We'll explain that in

2939
02:00:52,800 --> 02:00:54,880
Speaker 2: just about a minute. Good morning everyone of This is

2940
02:00:54,960 --> 02:00:57,880
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday. He's Jason Fitz, I'm Andy Furman, and

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02:00:58,000 --> 02:01:01,720
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Speaker 2: marathon continues, Jason Fitz, how's it going? Filling it for

2947
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Speaker 2: Bucky Brooks?

2948
02:01:17,880 --> 02:01:18,760
Speaker 3: How are his shoes?

2949
02:01:20,120 --> 02:01:20,280
Speaker 9: Man?

2950
02:01:20,320 --> 02:01:22,320
Speaker 4: The shoes are weight like Look, I got small feet,

2951
02:01:22,400 --> 02:01:24,240
Speaker 4: like size nine nine and a half maybe you know,

2952
02:01:24,400 --> 02:01:26,320
Speaker 4: like so his shoes are way too big for me.

2953
02:01:26,440 --> 02:01:27,520
Speaker 1: But feel was good man.

2954
02:01:27,600 --> 02:01:29,720
Speaker 4: We're hanging out like I feel like I'm doing a

2955
02:01:29,800 --> 02:01:33,080
Speaker 4: nice job. And John Gray here like you're you're you're

2956
02:01:33,160 --> 02:01:35,880
Speaker 4: doing all the real work. The driving out just making

2957
02:01:35,920 --> 02:01:38,240
Speaker 4: sure the road trips snacks are good. I'm making sure

2958
02:01:38,320 --> 02:01:41,160
Speaker 4: like I got the appropriate mix of salty and sweet

2959
02:01:41,200 --> 02:01:43,120
Speaker 4: with the with the road trip snacks.

2960
02:01:43,160 --> 02:01:45,760
Speaker 1: Got a little beverage for you, like everything's good, you know,

2961
02:01:45,920 --> 02:01:46,440
Speaker 1: making sure.

2962
02:01:46,360 --> 02:01:49,520
Speaker 2: You deserve after the show. You just treat yourself to

2963
02:01:49,600 --> 02:01:52,840
Speaker 2: a bagel after the show, really whites.

2964
02:01:52,600 --> 02:01:53,400
Speaker 1: And turkey bacon.

2965
02:01:53,440 --> 02:01:55,440
Speaker 4: And then I'm gonna go to but it's arms day,

2966
02:01:55,480 --> 02:01:57,000
Speaker 4: so I'm gonna go make sure, you know, go make

2967
02:01:57,040 --> 02:01:58,520
Speaker 4: sure my biceps look nice and pretty.

2968
02:01:58,920 --> 02:01:59,280
Speaker 1: There you go.

2969
02:01:59,480 --> 02:02:01,320
Speaker 3: Now, I want to get back to this thing.

2970
02:02:01,400 --> 02:02:04,160
Speaker 2: We talked about the Colorado banning of the writer from

2971
02:02:04,200 --> 02:02:09,640
Speaker 2: the Denver Post, Sean Keeler, because basically he's not permitted

2972
02:02:09,640 --> 02:02:12,160
Speaker 2: to ask any questions to football staff and Deon Sanders,

2973
02:02:12,560 --> 02:02:14,000
Speaker 2: and I like what he's done.

2974
02:02:14,040 --> 02:02:15,040
Speaker 3: This guy's pretty creative.

2975
02:02:15,080 --> 02:02:18,360
Speaker 2: He called Deon Sanders the disposition, Dion Bruce leer Bs

2976
02:02:18,600 --> 02:02:22,760
Speaker 2: a false prophet. I call him a planet Prime and

2977
02:02:22,960 --> 02:02:26,600
Speaker 2: Dion kool Aid and circus. The ban is indefinite. This

2978
02:02:26,760 --> 02:02:29,440
Speaker 2: is an unbelievable situation. If you're a sports pr guy,

2979
02:02:29,480 --> 02:02:31,840
Speaker 2: and I was. I was a sports information guy at

2980
02:02:31,880 --> 02:02:35,520
Speaker 2: the Oral Roberts University at Saint Francis College, New York.

2981
02:02:35,600 --> 02:02:37,520
Speaker 2: I was a PR guy in sports and the pros.

2982
02:02:38,400 --> 02:02:40,760
Speaker 2: You know your job can't get done. I mean, you're

2983
02:02:40,800 --> 02:02:42,880
Speaker 2: you're caught in the middle. You're pulled from both ends.

2984
02:02:43,160 --> 02:02:46,280
Speaker 2: But Deon Sanders apparently had this in his contract where

2985
02:02:46,320 --> 02:02:49,120
Speaker 2: he could basically have say so over media.

2986
02:02:49,120 --> 02:02:51,280
Speaker 3: And he's got a history, he's got a history of

2987
02:02:51,560 --> 02:02:51,960
Speaker 3: using his.

2988
02:02:52,040 --> 02:02:55,600
Speaker 2: Influence to band reporters from asking questions about the program.

2989
02:02:55,880 --> 02:02:58,880
Speaker 3: And I get that. I mean, you know what it was.

2990
02:02:58,960 --> 02:03:01,760
Speaker 2: Back in the twenty two twenty one the Mississippi Clarion

2991
02:03:01,880 --> 02:03:05,840
Speaker 2: Ledger he bought a reporter from covering Jackson State when

2992
02:03:05,840 --> 02:03:08,800
Speaker 2: he was coaching there. And it was the day after

2993
02:03:08,880 --> 02:03:11,880
Speaker 2: the Clarion Ledger reported a story and published a story

2994
02:03:11,880 --> 02:03:14,760
Speaker 2: relating to a court filing about a recruit that Dion

2995
02:03:14,880 --> 02:03:17,720
Speaker 2: had who had been charged with assaulting a woman. Now look,

2996
02:03:18,160 --> 02:03:22,600
Speaker 2: I understand that you could deny an answer, you could

2997
02:03:22,680 --> 02:03:25,320
Speaker 2: ask a question and say no comment, because we've seen

2998
02:03:25,400 --> 02:03:27,920
Speaker 2: Bill Belichick do that and Nick Saban do that many times.

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02:03:28,280 --> 02:03:30,680
Speaker 3: But to ban the guy from even asking the question,

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02:03:31,120 --> 02:03:31,720
Speaker 3: that's wrong.

3001
02:03:31,960 --> 02:03:34,600
Speaker 2: And I don't know why the president of Colorado University

3002
02:03:34,840 --> 02:03:37,640
Speaker 2: has not stepped in and say this makes us look bad,

3003
02:03:37,880 --> 02:03:40,720
Speaker 2: It makes the program looks cheap and makes it look weak.

3004
02:03:41,040 --> 02:03:43,600
Speaker 2: You just can't do that, and I don't understand why

3005
02:03:43,680 --> 02:03:47,000
Speaker 2: Dion continues to do so. You know he's banned, And honestly,

3006
02:03:47,400 --> 02:03:50,400
Speaker 2: you know, media people right now are probably giggling and

3007
02:03:50,560 --> 02:03:53,520
Speaker 2: laughing behind Sean Killer's back. If I was in Denver

3008
02:03:53,720 --> 02:03:56,560
Speaker 2: right now and I was a news director or sports director,

3009
02:03:56,880 --> 02:04:00,480
Speaker 2: I would get all the media people that cover Colorado

3010
02:04:00,600 --> 02:04:04,200
Speaker 2: University and you know what, until you permit Sean Keeler

3011
02:04:04,400 --> 02:04:07,560
Speaker 2: to ask questions to football staff people, and even if

3012
02:04:07,600 --> 02:04:09,760
Speaker 2: they say no comment, but until you permit it to

3013
02:04:09,840 --> 02:04:13,520
Speaker 2: ask questions, we're not covering Colorado football.

3014
02:04:13,720 --> 02:04:14,400
Speaker 1: How do you like that?

3015
02:04:14,760 --> 02:04:16,760
Speaker 3: Stick that in your pipe and smoke it. What do

3016
02:04:16,840 --> 02:04:17,520
Speaker 3: you think about that?

3017
02:04:18,680 --> 02:04:19,959
Speaker 1: I mean, where is the blowback?

3018
02:04:20,040 --> 02:04:22,360
Speaker 4: Because look, Lincoln Riley did this last year with the

3019
02:04:22,440 --> 02:04:24,920
Speaker 4: Reporter that he didn't like the tone of with USC

3020
02:04:25,040 --> 02:04:27,320
Speaker 4: and they ended up having to come to a new agreement. Right,

3021
02:04:28,000 --> 02:04:30,520
Speaker 4: but that was because the La Times clap back. Right,

3022
02:04:30,760 --> 02:04:34,160
Speaker 4: Where where is the pushback to this? This is an

3023
02:04:34,280 --> 02:04:37,240
Speaker 4: absolute joke in every way, shape or form, And look,

3024
02:04:37,560 --> 02:04:39,520
Speaker 4: I can honestly say I've been on both sides of this.

3025
02:04:40,000 --> 02:04:41,560
Speaker 4: When you sit in front of a microphone and you

3026
02:04:41,640 --> 02:04:44,000
Speaker 4: say things about players, sometimes you got to face them afterwards.

3027
02:04:44,000 --> 02:04:45,880
Speaker 4: When they say things about coaches, sometimes you got to

3028
02:04:45,880 --> 02:04:48,800
Speaker 4: face them about afterwards. And it's not always comfortable like that,

3029
02:04:48,920 --> 02:04:50,480
Speaker 4: but that's part of the job, right And if you

3030
02:04:50,760 --> 02:04:52,200
Speaker 4: if you're grown ask man, you can handle it.

3031
02:04:52,240 --> 02:04:53,200
Speaker 1: If you're grown ask adult.

3032
02:04:53,280 --> 02:04:55,760
Speaker 4: You can have a conversation with somebody about why you

3033
02:04:55,840 --> 02:04:57,680
Speaker 4: said what you said and they can understand it and

3034
02:04:57,720 --> 02:04:59,040
Speaker 4: you don't have to come to an agreement.

3035
02:04:59,240 --> 02:05:00,440
Speaker 1: But you both have a job to do.

3036
02:05:00,600 --> 02:05:03,040
Speaker 4: I've also met on the side where in the music

3037
02:05:03,120 --> 02:05:05,400
Speaker 4: business I played concerts or did things that I was

3038
02:05:05,440 --> 02:05:08,200
Speaker 4: particularly proud of that was ripped apart by reporters that

3039
02:05:08,280 --> 02:05:10,440
Speaker 4: I thought were absolutely they were idiots.

3040
02:05:10,680 --> 02:05:12,000
Speaker 1: And what do you do when you see them? The

3041
02:05:12,000 --> 02:05:14,200
Speaker 1: next time? You let it go. You let go, let God.

3042
02:05:14,280 --> 02:05:15,920
Speaker 1: You just got to put it behind you, and.

3043
02:05:16,000 --> 02:05:18,400
Speaker 4: You gotta trust your work, and you gotta trust what

3044
02:05:18,520 --> 02:05:20,640
Speaker 4: you do. You can't worry about what somebody's writing or

3045
02:05:20,680 --> 02:05:22,360
Speaker 4: saying about your performance.

3046
02:05:22,480 --> 02:05:22,920
Speaker 1: In general.

3047
02:05:23,040 --> 02:05:25,720
Speaker 4: If you were Dion Sanders, with all the power you

3048
02:05:25,840 --> 02:05:28,480
Speaker 4: have right there, what you just sent was your entire

3049
02:05:28,560 --> 02:05:30,440
Speaker 4: team a message that if you don't like the way

3050
02:05:30,520 --> 02:05:32,880
Speaker 4: things are going, then you use that power to try

3051
02:05:32,920 --> 02:05:36,680
Speaker 4: and change your situation by banning somebody from doing their job.

3052
02:05:36,760 --> 02:05:38,640
Speaker 4: What example is that at the end of the day,

3053
02:05:38,800 --> 02:05:41,680
Speaker 4: everybody disagrees with this concept. But I need to say

3054
02:05:41,720 --> 02:05:44,440
Speaker 4: this loudly. At the end of the day, a college

3055
02:05:44,480 --> 02:05:47,600
Speaker 4: football coach is paid by a university, often by a

3056
02:05:47,760 --> 02:05:51,880
Speaker 4: state university, to essentially be a air quotes teacher. They

3057
02:05:51,880 --> 02:05:54,440
Speaker 4: are supposed to be a quote leader of men. So

3058
02:05:54,560 --> 02:05:57,600
Speaker 4: the highest paid person in that state from a government

3059
02:05:57,680 --> 02:06:01,160
Speaker 4: institution that is supposedly a teacher, is teaching the lesson

3060
02:06:01,240 --> 02:06:03,520
Speaker 4: to people that you can be soft and sensitive about

3061
02:06:03,520 --> 02:06:06,000
Speaker 4: what's being said and then you can wield your power

3062
02:06:06,200 --> 02:06:08,640
Speaker 4: ruthlessly to prevent somebody from doing their job.

3063
02:06:08,880 --> 02:06:09,880
Speaker 1: It's an abomination.

3064
02:06:10,240 --> 02:06:13,840
Speaker 4: It's an absolute moment where Colorado as a university has

3065
02:06:13,960 --> 02:06:16,520
Speaker 4: to step in and control this at some level. And

3066
02:06:16,600 --> 02:06:19,560
Speaker 4: if they can't, shame on them, Shame on Dion, Shame

3067
02:06:19,640 --> 02:06:20,240
Speaker 4: on everybody.

3068
02:06:20,440 --> 02:06:20,840
Speaker 1: I agree.

3069
02:06:20,920 --> 02:06:22,520
Speaker 2: It makes you look weak, it makes you look small,

3070
02:06:22,560 --> 02:06:24,360
Speaker 2: it really does. Just say no comment, but I tell

3071
02:06:24,400 --> 02:06:26,480
Speaker 2: you what, I've been down that road before. When Sam Weischman,

3072
02:06:26,520 --> 02:06:28,840
Speaker 2: he Rest in Peace, was coaching the Cincinnati Bengals. He

3073
02:06:28,840 --> 02:06:30,240
Speaker 2: didn't talk to me for a long time. Then we

3074
02:06:30,320 --> 02:06:33,200
Speaker 2: finally broke bread. It was okay, But the worst for

3075
02:06:33,320 --> 02:06:36,640
Speaker 2: me was when Bob Huggins was coaching University of Cincinnati basketball.

3076
02:06:36,880 --> 02:06:38,960
Speaker 2: He claimed that I was hurting his recruiting. I mean,

3077
02:06:39,000 --> 02:06:40,720
Speaker 2: that was we think. And they took my press pass

3078
02:06:40,760 --> 02:06:43,800
Speaker 2: away from me eventually, But I was lucky. I worked

3079
02:06:43,800 --> 02:06:46,760
Speaker 2: at WLW Radio, a big radio station in Cincinnati for

3080
02:06:46,800 --> 02:06:50,360
Speaker 2: about eighteen years, fifty thousand watch Giant, and we carried

3081
02:06:50,400 --> 02:06:52,080
Speaker 2: the Reds, we carried the Bengals, we carried all the

3082
02:06:52,080 --> 02:06:55,360
Speaker 2: college sports, and they backed me. Randy Michaels, who was

3083
02:06:55,440 --> 02:06:58,160
Speaker 2: a great man in radio, and he went after Cincinnati

3084
02:06:58,440 --> 02:07:00,400
Speaker 2: and I got my pass back and he told me

3085
02:07:00,480 --> 02:07:02,160
Speaker 2: to go sit in the stands when I took the

3086
02:07:02,200 --> 02:07:02,680
Speaker 2: pass away.

3087
02:07:02,760 --> 02:07:03,760
Speaker 3: So it was fun.

3088
02:07:03,880 --> 02:07:06,640
Speaker 2: I mean it was really at the time, was you know, crazy,

3089
02:07:06,760 --> 02:07:09,200
Speaker 2: but it was fun. I look back now, but he backman.

3090
02:07:09,480 --> 02:07:12,120
Speaker 2: It's very rare that you get someone to back you

3091
02:07:12,200 --> 02:07:15,200
Speaker 2: when a coach or school goes ahead and does something

3092
02:07:15,280 --> 02:07:17,920
Speaker 2: like that, because you know, money's involved to have a

3093
02:07:18,000 --> 02:07:20,680
Speaker 2: contract to broadcast the games and things like that, and

3094
02:07:21,040 --> 02:07:23,560
Speaker 2: they didn't want to rock the boat. But Randy Michael's

3095
02:07:23,560 --> 02:07:26,000
Speaker 2: God bless him, he backed me. I got my pass back.

3096
02:07:26,080 --> 02:07:28,560
Speaker 2: Everything was fine, and Bull Huggins and I now today

3097
02:07:28,600 --> 02:07:31,600
Speaker 2: we get along. Coaching was coaching West Virginia. But I

3098
02:07:31,760 --> 02:07:34,240
Speaker 2: understand that. I understand what's going on. But I feel

3099
02:07:34,320 --> 02:07:36,800
Speaker 2: bad for the sports information guy. He's got to deal

3100
02:07:36,880 --> 02:07:38,480
Speaker 2: with this. I mean, and how do you deal with

3101
02:07:38,600 --> 02:07:41,080
Speaker 2: something like that. Let the guy come in, let him

3102
02:07:41,120 --> 02:07:43,600
Speaker 2: ask the questions, and Dean, if you don't like the questions,

3103
02:07:43,840 --> 02:07:46,400
Speaker 2: just say no comment. It happens all the time. But

3104
02:07:46,560 --> 02:07:48,560
Speaker 2: to band the guy and not let him ask a question,

3105
02:07:48,920 --> 02:07:51,840
Speaker 2: that's ridiculous. We're in the year twenty twenty four. It

3106
02:07:51,920 --> 02:07:54,440
Speaker 2: doesn't work like that now. You can't have that kind

3107
02:07:54,480 --> 02:07:57,560
Speaker 2: of power and control. It's amazing what he's doing and

3108
02:07:58,000 --> 02:08:01,480
Speaker 2: I can't believe it's being permitted. And a college can't

3109
02:08:01,560 --> 02:08:03,480
Speaker 2: this no less, it doesn't make any sense.

3110
02:08:04,560 --> 02:08:07,680
Speaker 4: And the hard part about it is, Look, I remember

3111
02:08:07,800 --> 02:08:11,200
Speaker 4: last year working for Yahoo Sports, my other job, and

3112
02:08:11,400 --> 02:08:13,880
Speaker 4: we were doing our college football wrap ups at the

3113
02:08:14,000 --> 02:08:15,760
Speaker 4: end of the night and we found a couple of

3114
02:08:15,840 --> 02:08:18,800
Speaker 4: weeks in that Frankly, if we mentioned anything with Colorado,

3115
02:08:18,840 --> 02:08:20,520
Speaker 4: the numbers went through the roof. So we made sure

3116
02:08:20,560 --> 02:08:22,640
Speaker 4: that we adjusted, and we made sure that we covered

3117
02:08:22,680 --> 02:08:25,200
Speaker 4: every Colorado game from that point on. There was always

3118
02:08:25,240 --> 02:08:27,600
Speaker 4: a mention of what Colorado did not because we were

3119
02:08:27,640 --> 02:08:29,920
Speaker 4: trying to force it down people's throats, as people falsely

3120
02:08:29,960 --> 02:08:32,520
Speaker 4: think sometimes, but the opposite, like which came first to

3121
02:08:32,600 --> 02:08:34,720
Speaker 4: chicken or the egg, people were paying attention to it.

3122
02:08:34,960 --> 02:08:37,440
Speaker 1: The problem is you can't if you live in that market.

3123
02:08:37,480 --> 02:08:41,040
Speaker 4: You can't really ignore this team because the personality that

3124
02:08:41,160 --> 02:08:44,120
Speaker 4: runs it has become a juggernaut. The issue with that

3125
02:08:44,320 --> 02:08:46,560
Speaker 4: is if you give that juggernaut that level of power,

3126
02:08:46,920 --> 02:08:48,040
Speaker 4: you can never take it away.

3127
02:08:48,040 --> 02:08:49,120
Speaker 1: You can never walk it back.

3128
02:08:49,200 --> 02:08:52,000
Speaker 4: And now, even if even if you read what was

3129
02:08:52,040 --> 02:08:54,240
Speaker 4: written and you think, you know what, Sky's a jerk,

3130
02:08:54,360 --> 02:08:56,600
Speaker 4: even if that's your approach on it, the message that

3131
02:08:56,640 --> 02:08:59,200
Speaker 4: has been sent to everybody else in the media is

3132
02:08:59,280 --> 02:09:01,920
Speaker 4: that whenever he wants, he could take away that level

3133
02:09:01,960 --> 02:09:04,160
Speaker 4: of power. And if you simply take away that level

3134
02:09:04,200 --> 02:09:06,320
Speaker 4: of power at any time, now, it's going to change

3135
02:09:06,360 --> 02:09:08,400
Speaker 4: the way everybody covers don because they.

3136
02:09:10,080 --> 02:09:10,200
Speaker 9: Right.

3137
02:09:10,320 --> 02:09:13,120
Speaker 2: You know, even Bob Knight, he would he humiliate you

3138
02:09:13,160 --> 02:09:14,920
Speaker 2: with a news conference, but he wouldn't throw you out

3139
02:09:15,000 --> 02:09:16,880
Speaker 2: and he would always answer you a question. He'd call

3140
02:09:16,920 --> 02:09:18,640
Speaker 2: you a jerk, he said, I don't want to answer that,

3141
02:09:18,840 --> 02:09:20,360
Speaker 2: but he would never say, don't talk to me.

3142
02:09:20,680 --> 02:09:22,920
Speaker 3: I mean right. I may he rest in peace because

3143
02:09:22,920 --> 02:09:23,600
Speaker 3: I loved him too.

3144
02:09:24,880 --> 02:09:27,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think there's a level of when you understand

3145
02:09:27,640 --> 02:09:31,320
Speaker 4: how much the people's livelihoods depend on it, how little

3146
02:09:31,400 --> 02:09:33,720
Speaker 4: some of those guys make to do that work. Also,

3147
02:09:34,120 --> 02:09:36,520
Speaker 4: and you think about what's on on the line form

3148
02:09:36,840 --> 02:09:38,440
Speaker 4: if you're sitting there saying, man, I really want to

3149
02:09:38,440 --> 02:09:40,840
Speaker 4: ask this tough question. But if I anger, if I

3150
02:09:40,920 --> 02:09:43,520
Speaker 4: angered Dion, I might not lose I might lose my past.

3151
02:09:43,560 --> 02:09:45,200
Speaker 4: I might not be able to do this anymore. I

3152
02:09:45,280 --> 02:09:46,840
Speaker 4: might lose my job, I might not be able to

3153
02:09:46,880 --> 02:09:49,000
Speaker 4: feed my family. Like, is that the world we want

3154
02:09:49,040 --> 02:09:52,880
Speaker 4: to go down? I don't understand how we manage to

3155
02:09:52,960 --> 02:09:55,280
Speaker 4: do that in any way, shape or form, At a

3156
02:09:55,360 --> 02:09:58,080
Speaker 4: time when journalistic integrity is more important than ever, in

3157
02:09:58,200 --> 02:10:02,960
Speaker 4: a time when the listening and reading audience trusts journalism

3158
02:10:03,120 --> 02:10:05,840
Speaker 4: less and less every single day. How can you trust

3159
02:10:05,920 --> 02:10:08,760
Speaker 4: anything anybody reports about Colorado? Now when you know that

3160
02:10:08,880 --> 02:10:10,920
Speaker 4: it's reported, how a fear of reaction?

3161
02:10:11,600 --> 02:10:14,840
Speaker 2: Wouldn't you love to see the other media people in Colorado,

3162
02:10:15,000 --> 02:10:18,120
Speaker 2: at least the ones that cover Colorado football, band together

3163
02:10:18,200 --> 02:10:20,960
Speaker 2: and say we ain't coming in, we're not covering any

3164
02:10:21,000 --> 02:10:23,080
Speaker 2: of the games until you permit this guy to come

3165
02:10:23,120 --> 02:10:26,040
Speaker 2: in and ask questions. Wouldn't that be great whenever happened.

3166
02:10:26,120 --> 02:10:29,160
Speaker 2: I'd love to see that happen, though, Yeah, no, it.

3167
02:10:29,200 --> 02:10:30,720
Speaker 1: Wouldn't, and you're right, it would be.

3168
02:10:31,200 --> 02:10:34,080
Speaker 4: The thing of it is, so often in these situations,

3169
02:10:34,200 --> 02:10:36,320
Speaker 4: people that read it on social media, all they think

3170
02:10:36,360 --> 02:10:38,760
Speaker 4: about is, well, it's coach versus some no name I

3171
02:10:38,800 --> 02:10:40,280
Speaker 4: don't care about. I'm going to take the side of

3172
02:10:40,320 --> 02:10:42,520
Speaker 4: my coach because I love my program. I just think

3173
02:10:42,560 --> 02:10:44,960
Speaker 4: what you're not thinking about is the rest of the

3174
02:10:45,040 --> 02:10:47,640
Speaker 4: repercussions that come from it. And you know, all of

3175
02:10:47,680 --> 02:10:51,320
Speaker 4: a sudden, if nobody's covering Colorado, nobody's talking about Colorado.

3176
02:10:51,800 --> 02:10:53,400
Speaker 4: If we live in a world where you want in

3177
02:10:53,480 --> 02:10:55,440
Speaker 4: a world, if you go to a world where you

3178
02:10:55,640 --> 02:10:59,040
Speaker 4: only get essentially state media, if all you're getting is

3179
02:10:59,080 --> 02:11:01,560
Speaker 4: what Colorado wants you to get, then you're never gonna

3180
02:11:01,560 --> 02:11:02,800
Speaker 4: get honesty about your program.

3181
02:11:02,880 --> 02:11:05,320
Speaker 1: You're never gonna get real reporting about what's.

3182
02:11:05,160 --> 02:11:07,360
Speaker 4: Going on, and you're gonna end up with a situation

3183
02:11:07,560 --> 02:11:10,360
Speaker 4: that frankly doesn't honor the team, doesn't honor the fan,

3184
02:11:10,520 --> 02:11:14,320
Speaker 4: doesn't honor the program, like that's the inevitable future if

3185
02:11:14,360 --> 02:11:17,000
Speaker 4: you don't clap back at some point. So I'm stunned

3186
02:11:17,000 --> 02:11:18,160
Speaker 4: there hasn't been more pushback.

3187
02:11:18,200 --> 02:11:19,920
Speaker 1: I'm stunned that nobody's getting involved.

3188
02:11:19,920 --> 02:11:21,760
Speaker 4: And it just shows you the lack of power in

3189
02:11:21,760 --> 02:11:24,320
Speaker 4: the INCI double LA because the NFL would never allow

3190
02:11:24,360 --> 02:11:24,880
Speaker 4: this to happen.

3191
02:11:25,000 --> 02:11:27,520
Speaker 2: I agree with you there, And here's the situation right now,

3192
02:11:27,520 --> 02:11:30,000
Speaker 2: because is a story coming out of Colorado just came

3193
02:11:30,040 --> 02:11:31,520
Speaker 2: out the other day, and I'd love to have seen

3194
02:11:31,760 --> 02:11:34,760
Speaker 2: Sean killer at least ask some questions, how does this happen?

3195
02:11:35,000 --> 02:11:39,240
Speaker 2: Trevor Riley, former special teams coordinator at Colorado. He told

3196
02:11:39,360 --> 02:11:42,360
Speaker 2: Jason Jones of Sports Illustrated, I'm surprised they let him

3197
02:11:42,360 --> 02:11:44,520
Speaker 2: told the Sports Illustrated, but he told Jason Jones of

3198
02:11:44,560 --> 02:11:47,240
Speaker 2: Sports Illustrated that he spent time in the Middle East

3199
02:11:47,600 --> 02:11:52,440
Speaker 2: trying to secure nil funds from Saudi Arabia's public investment

3200
02:11:52,520 --> 02:11:55,960
Speaker 2: fund so they could get money at Colorado. He no

3201
02:11:56,080 --> 02:11:58,840
Speaker 2: longer works there right now, but these are the things

3202
02:11:58,880 --> 02:12:01,600
Speaker 2: that Sean Riley I mean, Sean Kile could go over

3203
02:12:01,640 --> 02:12:04,200
Speaker 2: there and say, well, how did this happen? Why do

3204
02:12:04,240 --> 02:12:05,800
Speaker 2: you do I mean, but they won't let him ask

3205
02:12:05,840 --> 02:12:08,320
Speaker 2: any questions. I mean, now he's not even under staff anymore,

3206
02:12:08,320 --> 02:12:10,600
Speaker 2: Trevor Riley. But these are the things that the public

3207
02:12:10,800 --> 02:12:13,160
Speaker 2: would like to know. They don't need to know, but

3208
02:12:13,240 --> 02:12:14,200
Speaker 2: they certainly would.

3209
02:12:14,120 --> 02:12:17,640
Speaker 1: Like to know. Yeah, and you're right, And that's where

3210
02:12:17,680 --> 02:12:18,200
Speaker 1: you've got to have.

3211
02:12:18,640 --> 02:12:20,560
Speaker 4: You've got to have a respected person in the room

3212
02:12:20,640 --> 02:12:24,600
Speaker 4: that's fearless with asking journalistic questions. And I'm not a journalist,

3213
02:12:24,640 --> 02:12:26,160
Speaker 4: I tell people all the time. I don't pretend to

3214
02:12:26,200 --> 02:12:28,680
Speaker 4: be a journalist. I didn't have a journalism background. I

3215
02:12:28,760 --> 02:12:31,000
Speaker 4: don't pretend to sit there and call myself a journalist

3216
02:12:31,080 --> 02:12:33,160
Speaker 4: in any way, shape or form. And even I as

3217
02:12:33,200 --> 02:12:36,440
Speaker 4: an opinion guy, feel like journalism is so wildly important

3218
02:12:36,440 --> 02:12:39,080
Speaker 4: because it helps shapes the way we all look an opinion, right,

3219
02:12:39,160 --> 02:12:40,440
Speaker 4: Like it helps shape what.

3220
02:12:40,520 --> 02:12:41,880
Speaker 1: We actually see from a program.

3221
02:12:42,000 --> 02:12:44,920
Speaker 4: And if you don't have people asking tough questions, you

3222
02:12:45,000 --> 02:12:47,200
Speaker 4: went up with a situation where suddenly years later you

3223
02:12:47,240 --> 02:12:49,840
Speaker 4: find out about mistreatment, you find about issues, you find

3224
02:12:49,880 --> 02:12:52,680
Speaker 4: out about controversy, and everybody's saying, well, how did this happen? Well,

3225
02:12:52,880 --> 02:12:55,240
Speaker 4: it happened because there's no checks and balances. It's just

3226
02:12:55,840 --> 02:12:58,720
Speaker 4: such a simple, important part of the way the world

3227
02:12:58,840 --> 02:13:01,760
Speaker 4: is supposed to work. And I think it's it's just

3228
02:13:01,880 --> 02:13:05,920
Speaker 4: absolutely crazy to me that as a society we scream

3229
02:13:06,000 --> 02:13:10,000
Speaker 4: about accountability to corporations, and we scream about accountability to

3230
02:13:10,080 --> 02:13:13,000
Speaker 4: everybody that makes money anywhere, and then anytime you try

3231
02:13:13,040 --> 02:13:15,920
Speaker 4: to have any accountability at all to a football coach,

3232
02:13:15,960 --> 02:13:17,440
Speaker 4: then it screams you're just out to get him.

3233
02:13:17,680 --> 02:13:20,160
Speaker 1: I just I don't understand why the goalpost moved so hard.

3234
02:13:20,680 --> 02:13:23,960
Speaker 3: Well. Deion Sanders obviously has loved in Colorado.

3235
02:13:24,240 --> 02:13:25,880
Speaker 2: I mean there was time that no one went to

3236
02:13:25,960 --> 02:13:27,840
Speaker 2: their games and when he went over there, now there's

3237
02:13:27,840 --> 02:13:30,240
Speaker 2: a waiting list for season tickets. I understand that he's

3238
02:13:30,280 --> 02:13:32,080
Speaker 2: brought a lot of money into the schools, but the

3239
02:13:32,280 --> 02:13:34,760
Speaker 2: money creates power, and he's got power to do just

3240
02:13:34,800 --> 02:13:36,760
Speaker 2: about anything he wants to do with that school. He

3241
02:13:36,880 --> 02:13:39,040
Speaker 2: hires coaches he wants to hire, and that's fine. I

3242
02:13:39,080 --> 02:13:41,080
Speaker 2: mean other coaches do that as well, But you know

3243
02:13:41,280 --> 02:13:43,720
Speaker 2: the fact that he has ruling over media. I mean,

3244
02:13:43,760 --> 02:13:46,560
Speaker 2: come on, he didn't he throw the CBS affiliate out

3245
02:13:46,960 --> 02:13:51,200
Speaker 2: the other day, and last year CBS, the major CBS network,

3246
02:13:51,480 --> 02:13:53,840
Speaker 2: sixty minutes did a two part thing on him, you know,

3247
02:13:54,200 --> 02:13:56,960
Speaker 2: making it bigger than God. I mean, you can't do that.

3248
02:13:57,320 --> 02:13:59,480
Speaker 2: You can't pick and choose media people. Some of you're

3249
02:13:59,480 --> 02:14:01,480
Speaker 2: gonna like, You're not going to like some things they'll

3250
02:14:01,480 --> 02:14:01,960
Speaker 2: say about you.

3251
02:14:02,080 --> 02:14:03,160
Speaker 8: You like, some of you don't like.

3252
02:14:03,520 --> 02:14:05,720
Speaker 3: Just just the way it is, just as the way

3253
02:14:05,760 --> 02:14:06,640
Speaker 3: it is, Live with it.

3254
02:14:08,240 --> 02:14:11,400
Speaker 4: I would also say Mark Zuckerberg and Facebook have created

3255
02:14:11,480 --> 02:14:13,800
Speaker 4: millions of dollars of revenue for the entire world, and

3256
02:14:13,880 --> 02:14:15,800
Speaker 4: we still look at it constantly, even though with all

3257
02:14:15,840 --> 02:14:17,680
Speaker 4: the power, we look at it constantly and we say,

3258
02:14:17,720 --> 02:14:19,880
Speaker 4: oh my god, where the checks and balances report on this?

3259
02:14:19,960 --> 02:14:22,040
Speaker 1: Elon musk owning X at this point is.

3260
02:14:22,080 --> 02:14:24,880
Speaker 4: Such a conversation constantly, and we sit there and say, oh, well,

3261
02:14:24,920 --> 02:14:26,760
Speaker 4: you know, look at all this power, look at everything

3262
02:14:26,800 --> 02:14:27,360
Speaker 4: they can wield.

3263
02:14:27,480 --> 02:14:29,320
Speaker 1: There are still questions that need to and have to

3264
02:14:29,360 --> 02:14:30,200
Speaker 1: be asked constantly.

3265
02:14:30,360 --> 02:14:33,480
Speaker 4: Just because Dion is producing revenue for Colorado and there

3266
02:14:33,520 --> 02:14:35,080
Speaker 4: are lots of fans of there are lots of fans

3267
02:14:35,120 --> 02:14:37,560
Speaker 4: of Facebook, there's lots of fans of Twitter too, Like,

3268
02:14:37,720 --> 02:14:39,640
Speaker 4: just because you have fans, and just because you make

3269
02:14:39,760 --> 02:14:42,160
Speaker 4: money for something doesn't mean that you are now beyond

3270
02:14:42,200 --> 02:14:45,360
Speaker 4: reproach where you should not have to answer significant questions

3271
02:14:45,400 --> 02:14:47,480
Speaker 4: about how you do what you do. That is part

3272
02:14:47,760 --> 02:14:50,160
Speaker 4: of the process when you are a CEO. And Dion

3273
02:14:50,360 --> 02:14:52,680
Speaker 4: is the CEO of the Colorado football program.

3274
02:14:52,880 --> 02:14:55,160
Speaker 2: And I hope this case is not closed. I hope

3275
02:14:55,200 --> 02:14:57,960
Speaker 2: we hear more about this because to end it like

3276
02:14:58,080 --> 02:14:59,960
Speaker 2: this and to have Sean Killer on the outside look

3277
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:02,840
Speaker 2: looking in, it's wrong. And there's gotta be ser some

3278
02:15:03,000 --> 02:15:06,480
Speaker 2: repercussions over here with Dean Sanders. I hope this continues.

3279
02:15:06,520 --> 02:15:08,240
Speaker 2: I just hope this is not the last we hear

3280
02:15:08,280 --> 02:15:11,000
Speaker 2: about this story. He's Jason Fitz. You get him on Twitter,

3281
02:15:11,040 --> 02:15:12,440
Speaker 2: get him on ex whatever you want to call it,

3282
02:15:12,520 --> 02:15:14,920
Speaker 2: at Jason Fitz, at Andy Furman. Fso, I bet, hey,

3283
02:15:15,040 --> 02:15:16,560
Speaker 2: we'd love to hear from you. I'm sure you got

3284
02:15:16,640 --> 02:15:19,480
Speaker 2: to comment. At eight seven to seven ninety nine on Fox.

3285
02:15:19,560 --> 02:15:23,120
Speaker 2: That translates to eight seven seven nine nine six sixty

3286
02:15:23,160 --> 02:15:23,920
Speaker 2: three sixty nine.

3287
02:15:23,960 --> 02:15:27,200
Speaker 3: We've got yay or nay in this hour.

3288
02:15:27,280 --> 02:15:30,600
Speaker 2: And by the way, one NFL quarterback needs to keep

3289
02:15:30,680 --> 02:15:34,480
Speaker 2: his pie hole closed, right that's coming up next. Live

3290
02:15:34,640 --> 02:15:38,360
Speaker 2: from the tyrack dot Com studios. We see better than

3291
02:15:38,400 --> 02:15:40,440
Speaker 2: we hear. We'll get to that in just about a minute.

3292
02:15:40,480 --> 02:15:43,440
Speaker 2: Here is Jason Fitzen for Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy Furman,

3293
02:15:43,480 --> 02:15:46,680
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3294
02:15:46,720 --> 02:15:49,040
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3295
02:15:49,040 --> 02:15:52,520
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3296
02:15:52,600 --> 02:15:56,640
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3297
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3300
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3301
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3302
02:16:13,880 --> 02:16:17,200
Speaker 3: Now, I say, you know I see better than we hear.

3303
02:16:17,760 --> 02:16:21,080
Speaker 2: You know they call this a quarterback controversy, and I

3304
02:16:21,120 --> 02:16:23,720
Speaker 2: don't think there really was or ever will be a controversy.

3305
02:16:23,760 --> 02:16:26,920
Speaker 2: I've thought about the Pittsburgh Steelers because Justin Fields I

3306
02:16:26,960 --> 02:16:29,320
Speaker 2: said he'd go to keep his pieholes shut. He was

3307
02:16:29,400 --> 02:16:31,640
Speaker 2: talking the other day of practice. I think I've shown

3308
02:16:31,680 --> 02:16:33,280
Speaker 2: what I can do. This is what he said the

3309
02:16:33,320 --> 02:16:35,480
Speaker 2: other day. I think the time that I did have

3310
02:16:35,600 --> 02:16:38,080
Speaker 2: with the first team practicing and training camp. I think

3311
02:16:38,160 --> 02:16:39,800
Speaker 2: that went well. I think we grew with a lot

3312
02:16:39,840 --> 02:16:42,120
Speaker 2: of each other. Just say, I'm trying my best. Whatever

3313
02:16:42,200 --> 02:16:45,360
Speaker 2: happens happens. I mean, come on, there's no controversy because

3314
02:16:45,400 --> 02:16:48,120
Speaker 2: when they signed Russell Wilson, there's the guy.

3315
02:16:48,760 --> 02:16:51,720
Speaker 3: Russell Wilson's the guy. Russell Wilson be the quarterback.

3316
02:16:51,800 --> 02:16:53,560
Speaker 2: By the way, I don't think that makes much of

3317
02:16:53,640 --> 02:16:56,200
Speaker 2: a difference, my friend Jason Fitz, because this team right

3318
02:16:56,240 --> 02:16:59,080
Speaker 2: now has one receiver in George Pickens. They have a

3319
02:16:59,160 --> 02:17:01,080
Speaker 2: running game, and I think if they win, if they

3320
02:17:01,160 --> 02:17:03,760
Speaker 2: do win, it'll be on defense. That's how they're gonna win,

3321
02:17:03,920 --> 02:17:07,360
Speaker 2: all right. And the story Yeah, I.

3322
02:17:07,600 --> 02:17:09,840
Speaker 4: So, I agree with you with what you just said,

3323
02:17:09,879 --> 02:17:11,560
Speaker 4: but I think Justin Fields is gonna be the starter

3324
02:17:11,680 --> 02:17:12,080
Speaker 4: week one.

3325
02:17:12,600 --> 02:17:15,760
Speaker 1: I don't believe that. Russ So. A couple of things.

3326
02:17:16,200 --> 02:17:18,680
Speaker 4: One, Arthur Smith is the offensive coordinator there, and the

3327
02:17:18,720 --> 02:17:22,200
Speaker 4: offensive coordinator he used to be the offensive coordinator for

3328
02:17:22,240 --> 02:17:23,240
Speaker 4: the Titans back in the day.

3329
02:17:23,280 --> 02:17:24,240
Speaker 1: And what is he like.

3330
02:17:24,360 --> 02:17:25,800
Speaker 4: He likes a guy he can roll out a lot.

3331
02:17:25,879 --> 02:17:27,920
Speaker 4: Mariota was a good example of that. Somebody he can

3332
02:17:27,959 --> 02:17:30,360
Speaker 4: be fluid, with even in Atlanta. As much as he

3333
02:17:30,440 --> 02:17:33,640
Speaker 4: never utilized those weapons, fluidity matter to him. Being able

3334
02:17:33,680 --> 02:17:36,280
Speaker 4: to be mobile matter to him. So I think that's

3335
02:17:36,320 --> 02:17:39,120
Speaker 4: part one of it. Part two, there's very They have

3336
02:17:39,480 --> 02:17:42,240
Speaker 4: essentially no cost in Russ right now. But if things

3337
02:17:42,320 --> 02:17:45,040
Speaker 4: go great for us, then what you know, are you

3338
02:17:45,080 --> 02:17:47,280
Speaker 4: really going to sign somebody to a massive contract that

3339
02:17:48,080 --> 02:17:49,959
Speaker 4: is cooked? And I think Russ is cooked. The other

3340
02:17:50,000 --> 02:17:52,480
Speaker 4: side of it is Justin Fields at least is young.

3341
02:17:52,600 --> 02:17:54,680
Speaker 4: They can see what they have in development standpoint. But

3342
02:17:55,000 --> 02:17:57,560
Speaker 4: then the other part of it is Russ hasn't separated himself.

3343
02:17:57,640 --> 02:18:00,880
Speaker 4: And Charles Robinson or Yahoo's Sports NFL, I asked him

3344
02:18:00,920 --> 02:18:03,840
Speaker 4: on one of our shows last week if this was

3345
02:18:03,879 --> 02:18:05,480
Speaker 4: still a contest in the air, and he said, yeah,

3346
02:18:05,560 --> 02:18:08,560
Speaker 4: no decision had been made yet. I genuinely believe Justin

3347
02:18:08,600 --> 02:18:10,520
Speaker 4: Fields is going to be the starting quarterback. I think

3348
02:18:10,600 --> 02:18:14,080
Speaker 4: Russ is absolute done. He's done, he's cooked, he's washed completely.

3349
02:18:14,280 --> 02:18:16,080
Speaker 4: I don't know if Justin Fields is going to be good,

3350
02:18:16,320 --> 02:18:18,640
Speaker 4: but at least Justin Fields with that offense, can run

3351
02:18:18,680 --> 02:18:21,640
Speaker 4: around and try and make some plays, get some opportunity

3352
02:18:21,720 --> 02:18:24,000
Speaker 4: with mobility to try and get something done. You're right,

3353
02:18:24,080 --> 02:18:26,040
Speaker 4: the weapons stink. I don't think it makes a huge

3354
02:18:26,080 --> 02:18:28,080
Speaker 4: difference in their win total, but I think justin Fields

3355
02:18:28,080 --> 02:18:28,720
Speaker 4: starts week one.

3356
02:18:29,400 --> 02:18:31,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, and tell me, why do you think Russell Wilson's done?

3357
02:18:31,840 --> 02:18:32,680
Speaker 3: Why has he finished?

3358
02:18:33,760 --> 02:18:33,880
Speaker 1: Well?

3359
02:18:33,920 --> 02:18:35,760
Speaker 4: I mean, look, we can't have it two ways when

3360
02:18:35,800 --> 02:18:37,920
Speaker 4: it comes to Sean Payton. You can't be the great

3361
02:18:38,040 --> 02:18:39,879
Speaker 4: Oh my god, you're going to get the most out

3362
02:18:39,920 --> 02:18:42,200
Speaker 4: of bow Nicks because you are Sean Payton, the great

3363
02:18:42,280 --> 02:18:44,960
Speaker 4: quarterback guru. And then all of a sudden, you're the

3364
02:18:45,000 --> 02:18:48,080
Speaker 4: same guy that that essentially gave up on Russ, even

3365
02:18:48,120 --> 02:18:49,680
Speaker 4: though it cost an arm in a lake to do it.

3366
02:18:49,760 --> 02:18:51,720
Speaker 4: So one of the smartest quarterback minds we have in

3367
02:18:51,760 --> 02:18:54,480
Speaker 4: the NFL saw Russ up close and personally and said, no,

3368
02:18:55,040 --> 02:18:57,879
Speaker 4: I'm not only not in on Russ, I'm so out

3369
02:18:57,959 --> 02:19:00,200
Speaker 4: on Russ. I'm willing to take a historic dead cat

3370
02:19:00,320 --> 02:19:03,000
Speaker 4: number to get away from him. And Russ wasn't terrible

3371
02:19:03,120 --> 02:19:05,640
Speaker 4: last year. He was okay last year. But he was

3372
02:19:05,680 --> 02:19:08,760
Speaker 4: okay with again one of the best quarterback gurus in

3373
02:19:08,840 --> 02:19:12,120
Speaker 4: the entire league as his head coach. There's been very

3374
02:19:12,200 --> 02:19:14,440
Speaker 4: little proof that Russ has anything left in the tank

3375
02:19:14,680 --> 02:19:18,360
Speaker 4: since he left Seattle, so For me, it's you. I

3376
02:19:18,560 --> 02:19:20,680
Speaker 4: certainly watched as a Raiders fan. I watched those games

3377
02:19:20,760 --> 02:19:22,920
Speaker 4: last year against Dever. I was never scared of us.

3378
02:19:22,959 --> 02:19:25,640
Speaker 4: I don't think anybody scared of us anymore. There was

3379
02:19:25,680 --> 02:19:28,160
Speaker 4: a moment in time of flash where he was very,

3380
02:19:28,320 --> 02:19:30,360
Speaker 4: very good, and now that flash seems to be over.

3381
02:19:30,600 --> 02:19:33,120
Speaker 4: So while Rusk can turn around and dink and dunk

3382
02:19:33,160 --> 02:19:35,359
Speaker 4: for a few yards here and there, maybe get some completions,

3383
02:19:35,600 --> 02:19:37,920
Speaker 4: I don't think there's anything left there and this offense

3384
02:19:37,959 --> 02:19:40,120
Speaker 4: isn't going to be really amenable to that. So they

3385
02:19:40,200 --> 02:19:42,120
Speaker 4: have a better opportunity with play action. They have a

3386
02:19:42,200 --> 02:19:45,480
Speaker 4: better opportunity running the football. They have better opportunity with

3387
02:19:46,040 --> 02:19:48,199
Speaker 4: again being able to move the line of scrimmage around,

3388
02:19:48,240 --> 02:19:51,160
Speaker 4: move the pocket around with Justin and Russ can't do

3389
02:19:51,240 --> 02:19:52,560
Speaker 4: any of that as efficiently.

3390
02:19:53,280 --> 02:19:55,880
Speaker 2: You know what, I hear what you're saying, but I'm

3391
02:19:55,959 --> 02:19:59,520
Speaker 2: certainly taking the entire opposite approach. Do you realize that

3392
02:19:59,600 --> 02:20:01,800
Speaker 2: Russell Wilson threw for twenty six touchdowns with all the

3393
02:20:01,840 --> 02:20:04,240
Speaker 2: eight interceptions last year and threw for over three thousand

3394
02:20:04,320 --> 02:20:06,960
Speaker 2: yards on a bad football team. I mean, he had

3395
02:20:07,080 --> 02:20:09,480
Speaker 2: some great numbers, And thinking about Sean Payton. I mean,

3396
02:20:09,680 --> 02:20:12,160
Speaker 2: you know, it's great that people say that such and

3397
02:20:12,320 --> 02:20:14,600
Speaker 2: such is going to develop this guy, you know. I mean,

3398
02:20:15,720 --> 02:20:18,879
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes would have been a great quarterback without Andy Reid.

3399
02:20:19,160 --> 02:20:21,640
Speaker 2: Believe me, that's just just the way Andy Reid helped.

3400
02:20:21,879 --> 02:20:24,800
Speaker 2: No doubt about that, but he helped. That's basically it.

3401
02:20:25,040 --> 02:20:27,000
Speaker 2: You got the god given ability. You could play, you

3402
02:20:27,040 --> 02:20:30,040
Speaker 2: could play food. I don't care who goes a quarterback who.

3403
02:20:30,040 --> 02:20:32,480
Speaker 2: I don't care who coaches Daniel Jones. He's not going

3404
02:20:32,560 --> 02:20:35,200
Speaker 2: to be a Heisman Trophy winning college. He's not going

3405
02:20:35,240 --> 02:20:36,960
Speaker 2: to be a Hall of Famer in the pros. Daniel

3406
02:20:37,040 --> 02:20:38,920
Speaker 2: Jones ain't gonna make it. He doesn't have it. It

3407
02:20:38,959 --> 02:20:41,480
Speaker 2: doesn't have the goods. But Russell Wilson still has it.

3408
02:20:41,680 --> 02:20:43,480
Speaker 2: And I don't care who's coaching there. And I think

3409
02:20:43,520 --> 02:20:46,200
Speaker 2: the fact that Mike Tomlin has not announced who's starting

3410
02:20:46,280 --> 02:20:48,440
Speaker 2: it is a great move on his part as coach

3411
02:20:48,680 --> 02:20:52,560
Speaker 2: because he still keeps the competition alive in training camp period.

3412
02:20:52,640 --> 02:20:52,920
Speaker 1: That's it.

3413
02:20:54,120 --> 02:20:55,880
Speaker 4: But if you take those numbers you just gave me

3414
02:20:55,920 --> 02:20:58,520
Speaker 4: on Russ last year and then make it make sense

3415
02:20:58,600 --> 02:21:02,160
Speaker 4: for me, why after those three thousand yards twenty six touchdowns,

3416
02:21:02,200 --> 02:21:05,640
Speaker 4: eight picks that Denver decided to take a fifty three

3417
02:21:05,760 --> 02:21:08,520
Speaker 4: million dollar cap hit this year and thirty two million

3418
02:21:08,560 --> 02:21:11,040
Speaker 4: dollars next year just to get him out the door

3419
02:21:11,360 --> 02:21:14,440
Speaker 4: being the money real numbers. But but yeah, but they

3420
02:21:14,480 --> 02:21:16,760
Speaker 4: didn't need the money. They're gonna suck anyway. They didn't

3421
02:21:16,760 --> 02:21:19,600
Speaker 4: need the money. They frankly, they even with the way

3422
02:21:19,600 --> 02:21:21,560
Speaker 4: they could have restructured a couple of contracts, they could

3423
02:21:21,560 --> 02:21:23,560
Speaker 4: have kept Bownicks and Russell Wilson if they wanted to,

3424
02:21:23,840 --> 02:21:26,520
Speaker 4: like in today's world, they could have pushed some other

3425
02:21:26,600 --> 02:21:28,400
Speaker 4: contracts around and gotten through that.

3426
02:21:28,560 --> 02:21:32,080
Speaker 1: They they took a dead cap hit. That is absolutely jarring.

3427
02:21:32,160 --> 02:21:33,960
Speaker 4: Part of the reason that they don't have enough talent

3428
02:21:34,080 --> 02:21:36,880
Speaker 4: this year simply to get him out the door like

3429
02:21:37,000 --> 02:21:38,920
Speaker 4: that has to mean something, right.

3430
02:21:38,959 --> 02:21:41,840
Speaker 2: Like yeah, not only on pay And then he did

3431
02:21:41,920 --> 02:21:43,640
Speaker 2: not see eye to eye and they didn't like each other.

3432
02:21:44,200 --> 02:21:45,960
Speaker 2: He didn't want to play for him. I mean, you know,

3433
02:21:46,120 --> 02:21:49,280
Speaker 2: Sean Payton wanted it his way, Russell did it his way.

3434
02:21:49,600 --> 02:21:51,800
Speaker 2: And we knew what Russell Wilson had in his in

3435
02:21:51,920 --> 02:21:54,800
Speaker 2: his repertoire, he watched video games at one point in

3436
02:21:54,879 --> 02:21:55,920
Speaker 2: time by himself.

3437
02:21:56,160 --> 02:21:58,280
Speaker 3: But I still think he has talent and if.

3438
02:21:58,200 --> 02:22:01,200
Speaker 2: He's molded, if he's if he's taken care of, if

3439
02:22:01,240 --> 02:22:04,120
Speaker 2: they given the opportunity to play, he's got something to prove.

3440
02:22:04,240 --> 02:22:06,640
Speaker 2: Right now, I think there are players and we mentioned

3441
02:22:06,680 --> 02:22:08,960
Speaker 2: this earlier today that a guy like Baker Mayfield, who

3442
02:22:09,000 --> 02:22:11,360
Speaker 2: has kicked out the door finally found new life in

3443
02:22:11,440 --> 02:22:13,959
Speaker 2: Tampa Bay. I think that Russell Wilson's going to find

3444
02:22:14,000 --> 02:22:15,840
Speaker 2: new life in Pittsburgh and I think he will be

3445
02:22:15,920 --> 02:22:18,080
Speaker 2: the starting quarterback. I think that's the reason why they

3446
02:22:18,120 --> 02:22:20,480
Speaker 2: got him to be the starting quarterback. You know, you

3447
02:22:20,560 --> 02:22:23,680
Speaker 2: go back to Justin Fields. He's a turnover machine. Really,

3448
02:22:23,840 --> 02:22:26,200
Speaker 2: I don't think the Pittsburgh Steels could afford to have

3449
02:22:26,400 --> 02:22:27,519
Speaker 2: him as quarterback.

3450
02:22:29,200 --> 02:22:33,720
Speaker 1: I do. I do agree that the turnovers have been

3451
02:22:33,760 --> 02:22:36,840
Speaker 1: problematic for Justin Fields. There's no two ways about that.

3452
02:22:37,280 --> 02:22:40,080
Speaker 4: I would also, though, say that everything we just talked

3453
02:22:40,080 --> 02:22:42,560
Speaker 4: about with you know, hey, a new lease on life

3454
02:22:42,680 --> 02:22:45,199
Speaker 4: and an opportunity something to prove, don't those.

3455
02:22:45,080 --> 02:22:48,640
Speaker 1: Also all apply to Justin Fields. I mean, at that point,

3456
02:22:48,760 --> 02:22:49,800
Speaker 1: isn't there some element?

3457
02:22:49,920 --> 02:22:52,640
Speaker 2: Not really, because Justin Fields never know, because Justin Fields

3458
02:22:52,680 --> 02:22:55,080
Speaker 2: has never made it. He's never tasted the honey at

3459
02:22:55,080 --> 02:22:57,520
Speaker 2: the top of the mountain, you know, but Russell Wilson

3460
02:22:57,600 --> 02:23:00,160
Speaker 2: has Justin Filds Fields, but he's working up the mount.

3461
02:23:01,360 --> 02:23:03,720
Speaker 4: But he still has something to prove coming away from

3462
02:23:03,800 --> 02:23:05,680
Speaker 4: a team that gave up on him, like he still has.

3463
02:23:05,959 --> 02:23:08,200
Speaker 4: He still has something to show the world about who

3464
02:23:08,280 --> 02:23:10,080
Speaker 4: he can be as a quarterback in the NFL. And

3465
02:23:10,480 --> 02:23:13,280
Speaker 4: you know, there is an element of that that I

3466
02:23:13,320 --> 02:23:14,240
Speaker 4: think has to matter.

3467
02:23:14,440 --> 02:23:15,480
Speaker 1: And you're right.

3468
02:23:15,560 --> 02:23:17,720
Speaker 4: The turnovers being there in the preseason I think is

3469
02:23:17,800 --> 02:23:20,120
Speaker 4: a bad look for Justin Fields because that was the

3470
02:23:20,200 --> 02:23:21,840
Speaker 4: knock on him and it's still the knock on him.

3471
02:23:21,920 --> 02:23:24,840
Speaker 4: So that's an issue. There's no doubt about that. And

3472
02:23:24,920 --> 02:23:27,600
Speaker 4: they certainly can't afford a bunch of turnovers. I agree

3473
02:23:27,640 --> 02:23:30,840
Speaker 4: with all of that. But also they're gonna need somebody

3474
02:23:30,879 --> 02:23:32,920
Speaker 4: that can make them big plays. They're gonna need somebody

3475
02:23:32,959 --> 02:23:35,640
Speaker 4: that can make them big plays off schedule, and I don't.

3476
02:23:35,440 --> 02:23:37,400
Speaker 2: Know if one of them cans, because I don't know

3477
02:23:37,400 --> 02:23:38,920
Speaker 2: if that's the talent. I mean, as I say, George

3478
02:23:38,920 --> 02:23:41,040
Speaker 2: Pickens is to receive and Naje Howards is gonna win

3479
02:23:41,040 --> 02:23:43,040
Speaker 2: the football. But if they if they do win, if

3480
02:23:43,080 --> 02:23:45,520
Speaker 2: they can win, if they're going to do anything at

3481
02:23:45,560 --> 02:23:49,360
Speaker 2: all it's gonna be a defensive the defensive.

3482
02:23:49,120 --> 02:23:52,879
Speaker 4: Gains with him, but Justin Field's feet, I mean, Justin

3483
02:23:52,920 --> 02:23:55,880
Speaker 4: Fields hit the over on last year as a degenerate cambler.

3484
02:23:56,240 --> 02:23:58,880
Speaker 4: Justin Fields hit the over on the Vegas expectation for

3485
02:23:59,080 --> 02:24:02,080
Speaker 4: yards rushing, and I think twelve of the seventeen games

3486
02:24:02,360 --> 02:24:04,760
Speaker 4: like Justin Fields can still he may not be able

3487
02:24:04,800 --> 02:24:06,320
Speaker 4: to throw the ball, but he's going to get you

3488
02:24:06,440 --> 02:24:09,560
Speaker 4: first down after first down because he can't run the football,

3489
02:24:09,760 --> 02:24:11,520
Speaker 4: and they're going to need that. They need some other

3490
02:24:11,640 --> 02:24:15,160
Speaker 4: dynamic elements right now. The fact that his feet help.

3491
02:24:15,120 --> 02:24:18,040
Speaker 2: Him, I would say this, I think it's a tough call.

3492
02:24:18,120 --> 02:24:19,560
Speaker 2: In my mind, in my heart of hearts, I think

3493
02:24:19,640 --> 02:24:22,160
Speaker 2: Russell Wilson's gets the nod. But it's a tough call,

3494
02:24:22,200 --> 02:24:23,680
Speaker 2: and I'm glad I don't have to make that call.

3495
02:24:23,879 --> 02:24:26,040
Speaker 2: I'm making the call right here saying I think Russell

3496
02:24:26,040 --> 02:24:28,800
Speaker 2: Wilson will start opening day. Whether he continues, I don't know.

3497
02:24:28,920 --> 02:24:32,400
Speaker 2: But again, you know, I think Russell Wilson have a

3498
02:24:32,480 --> 02:24:35,920
Speaker 2: longer stretched quarterback to Justin Fields. Justin Fields, if he

3499
02:24:36,040 --> 02:24:39,120
Speaker 2: does start and he has that turnover situation to pop

3500
02:24:39,240 --> 02:24:41,720
Speaker 2: up again, he'll be yanked a lot quicker than Russell

3501
02:24:41,760 --> 02:24:42,600
Speaker 2: Wilson will be yanked.

3502
02:24:44,080 --> 02:24:46,320
Speaker 4: It's going to be interesting because the Steelers here clearly

3503
02:24:46,400 --> 02:24:48,080
Speaker 4: right now, in my mind, the fourth best team in

3504
02:24:48,120 --> 02:24:50,160
Speaker 4: their own division, and that's been a long time since

3505
02:24:50,200 --> 02:24:52,240
Speaker 4: we said that. They need to get something from the

3506
02:24:52,360 --> 02:24:54,279
Speaker 4: quarterback position if they even want to have a shot

3507
02:24:54,640 --> 02:24:55,840
Speaker 4: at being the third best.

3508
02:24:56,040 --> 02:24:57,680
Speaker 2: And I'm hearing what you saying, and you may very

3509
02:24:57,760 --> 02:24:59,560
Speaker 2: well be right, but I tell you, if Jamar Chase

3510
02:24:59,560 --> 02:25:01,880
Speaker 2: doesn't play for the Bengals, they may be battling out

3511
02:25:01,920 --> 02:25:02,840
Speaker 2: for that fourth spot.

3512
02:25:05,440 --> 02:25:07,720
Speaker 4: I believe in Joe Burrows so much, you know, and

3513
02:25:08,000 --> 02:25:09,920
Speaker 4: they got one more year T Higgins. Like, if T

3514
02:25:10,080 --> 02:25:11,800
Speaker 4: Higgins is going to turn around and get paid like

3515
02:25:11,840 --> 02:25:13,440
Speaker 4: a number one, he can prove he's the number one

3516
02:25:13,480 --> 02:25:13,879
Speaker 4: right out.

3517
02:25:13,760 --> 02:25:15,360
Speaker 1: Of the gates, right right, Yeah, you're right.

3518
02:25:15,879 --> 02:25:17,520
Speaker 2: It's gonna be tough, But it is the toughest division

3519
02:25:17,520 --> 02:25:20,160
Speaker 2: I believe in football. That is a tremendous division. It's

3520
02:25:20,160 --> 02:25:22,760
Speaker 2: a great division. I think Baltimore's head and shoulders above

3521
02:25:22,760 --> 02:25:25,360
Speaker 2: everybody else in that division. But Cleveland's pretty tough, and

3522
02:25:25,440 --> 02:25:28,480
Speaker 2: they may have the defensive team, the defensive player of

3523
02:25:28,520 --> 02:25:30,920
Speaker 2: the year on that team as well, So you know again,

3524
02:25:31,040 --> 02:25:34,840
Speaker 2: quarterbacks a major question in Cleveland. You know, can Deshaun

3525
02:25:34,879 --> 02:25:37,480
Speaker 2: Watson come back and play? And we talked about that

3526
02:25:37,520 --> 02:25:39,800
Speaker 2: early today. Can he play? Can he get that rushed off?

3527
02:25:39,879 --> 02:25:41,720
Speaker 2: Does he care to play? Does he want to play?

3528
02:25:41,959 --> 02:25:44,680
Speaker 2: Is there a motivation fan to I hope so, you know,

3529
02:25:44,840 --> 02:25:46,760
Speaker 2: we'll see, We'll see what happens there.

3530
02:25:46,840 --> 02:25:48,320
Speaker 3: There's a big question in Cleveland.

3531
02:25:49,720 --> 02:25:51,800
Speaker 1: No, yeah, you're right about that. I don't trust that

3532
02:25:51,879 --> 02:25:53,720
Speaker 1: quarterback situation at all. You're very right.

3533
02:25:54,560 --> 02:25:58,160
Speaker 3: I'm not very right. Sometimes I'm wrong. Many times I'm wrong.

3534
02:25:58,240 --> 02:25:59,640
Speaker 3: Believe me. I promise you that.

3535
02:26:00,000 --> 02:26:02,760
Speaker 2: All right, he's chasing Fitz. I'm Andy Ferman. We have

3536
02:26:02,879 --> 02:26:05,280
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday on Fox, but it's ready. You know what,

3537
02:26:05,400 --> 02:26:08,280
Speaker 2: there's still some bad blood, some real bad blood between

3538
02:26:08,320 --> 02:26:11,160
Speaker 2: one quarterback and his coach. That's coming up live next

3539
02:26:11,440 --> 02:26:13,880
Speaker 2: on the tyrack dot com studios. But first our guy

3540
02:26:14,160 --> 02:26:16,039
Speaker 2: Isaac Low and Kron with the sports.

3541
02:26:16,200 --> 02:26:18,560
Speaker 11: Good morning, Andy and Jason, and we greet you with

3542
02:26:18,680 --> 02:26:21,480
Speaker 11: fresh NFL news on this Sunday morning. Is NFL media

3543
02:26:21,520 --> 02:26:25,080
Speaker 11: reporting the Jacksonville Jaguars have released receiver Denzel Mems, while

3544
02:26:25,360 --> 02:26:29,000
Speaker 11: ESPN reports that the Los Angeles Rams have granted starting

3545
02:26:29,080 --> 02:26:32,680
Speaker 11: linebacker Ernest Jones permission to seek a trade. Jones was

3546
02:26:32,720 --> 02:26:35,560
Speaker 11: the Rams leading tackler last season. This is the final

3547
02:26:35,640 --> 02:26:38,800
Speaker 11: year of his contract. Baseball Saturday night, the Tampa Bay

3548
02:26:38,920 --> 02:26:41,800
Speaker 11: Raised defeated the Los Angeles Dodgers in ten innings, nine

3549
02:26:41,840 --> 02:26:44,920
Speaker 11: to eight. Tampa Bay's Junior Common Arrow the game tying

3550
02:26:45,000 --> 02:26:46,760
Speaker 11: home run at the top of the ninth inning, and

3551
02:26:46,840 --> 02:26:49,880
Speaker 11: then Jose Cabalio hit the game winning home run in

3552
02:26:49,959 --> 02:26:52,440
Speaker 11: the top of the tenth show hey Otani is forty

3553
02:26:52,520 --> 02:26:54,800
Speaker 11: first home run at a losing cause for the Dodgers.

3554
02:26:55,040 --> 02:26:58,440
Speaker 11: The Mets Francisco Lindor homeward from both sides of the plate,

3555
02:26:58,560 --> 02:27:01,600
Speaker 11: including a grand slam at five RBI and a seven

3556
02:27:01,640 --> 02:27:04,280
Speaker 11: to one win at San Diego Tigers over the White

3557
02:27:04,320 --> 02:27:07,680
Speaker 11: Sox thirteen to four, as Detroit's Trek Scoobel became the

3558
02:27:07,760 --> 02:27:10,480
Speaker 11: first of the Majors to fifteen wins. He also leads

3559
02:27:10,520 --> 02:27:14,000
Speaker 11: the Majors with a two point five eight earned run average. Finally,

3560
02:27:14,240 --> 02:27:17,360
Speaker 11: back to the NFL because more details have emerged about

3561
02:27:17,400 --> 02:27:20,320
Speaker 11: the incident on Friday night that saw about a dozen

3562
02:27:20,640 --> 02:27:25,240
Speaker 11: Los Angeles Chargers players get stuck in an elevator at

3563
02:27:25,280 --> 02:27:29,279
Speaker 11: the team hotel in Dallas preceding Saturday's game against the Cowboys.

3564
02:27:29,360 --> 02:27:32,760
Speaker 11: Players had to be extracted through the elevator's ceiling panel

3565
02:27:33,040 --> 02:27:37,040
Speaker 11: by the Dallas Fire Department's search and rescue team. Fortunately

3566
02:27:37,120 --> 02:27:41,000
Speaker 11: no one was injured, but head coach Jim Harbaugh revealed

3567
02:27:41,360 --> 02:27:44,280
Speaker 11: that the players were stuck in the elevator for two

3568
02:27:44,720 --> 02:27:47,320
Speaker 11: hours and that one of the players who was stuck

3569
02:27:47,360 --> 02:27:51,360
Speaker 11: in the elevator, you guessed it, none other than franchise

3570
02:27:51,560 --> 02:27:54,080
Speaker 11: quarterback Justin Herbert.

3571
02:27:54,200 --> 02:27:56,480
Speaker 3: Andy and Jason. Next time, I'll just take the stairs

3572
02:27:56,560 --> 02:27:56,920
Speaker 3: back to you.

3573
02:27:57,800 --> 02:27:58,200
Speaker 5: Thank you guy.

3574
02:27:58,200 --> 02:27:58,920
Speaker 3: He's a tough day.

3575
02:27:59,160 --> 02:28:00,840
Speaker 2: Hey, you gotta let it. Oh, we'll explain that in

3576
02:28:00,959 --> 02:28:03,320
Speaker 2: just about a minute. He is Jason Fitz, I'm Andy Furman.

3577
02:28:03,520 --> 02:28:05,920
Speaker 2: He's in for Bucky Brooks, and we have yay or

3578
02:28:06,000 --> 02:28:08,560
Speaker 2: nay in about eight to nine minutes from now. You know,

3579
02:28:09,360 --> 02:28:11,600
Speaker 2: I'll let to run this bar you if you could

3580
02:28:11,600 --> 02:28:15,760
Speaker 2: tell me definitively, what's the major difference between Major League

3581
02:28:15,800 --> 02:28:19,320
Speaker 2: Baseball interest and the National Football League interests fan interest?

3582
02:28:19,400 --> 02:28:22,279
Speaker 2: That is, I'll give you, I'll give you a bagel.

3583
02:28:22,360 --> 02:28:24,120
Speaker 2: I'll give you that bagel. What do you think in

3584
02:28:24,160 --> 02:28:26,640
Speaker 2: your heart of hearts? JF is the biggest difference in

3585
02:28:26,680 --> 02:28:31,160
Speaker 2: your mind, why baseball is falling so far behind having

3586
02:28:31,160 --> 02:28:32,200
Speaker 2: an interest in our country.

3587
02:28:33,800 --> 02:28:36,080
Speaker 1: I think it has a lot to do with the

3588
02:28:36,240 --> 02:28:38,200
Speaker 1: number of games. It has a lot to do with

3589
02:28:38,840 --> 02:28:40,039
Speaker 1: the day of the games.

3590
02:28:40,120 --> 02:28:43,560
Speaker 4: There is something honestly, truly magical about the fact that

3591
02:28:44,000 --> 02:28:46,200
Speaker 4: you don't wake up and say, oh wait, yeah, they

3592
02:28:46,240 --> 02:28:48,160
Speaker 4: got a game tonight. Like that just doesn't happen in

3593
02:28:48,240 --> 02:28:51,279
Speaker 4: the NFL. So it feels like the number of games

3594
02:28:51,360 --> 02:28:53,879
Speaker 4: being so low. It feels like the way the games

3595
02:28:53,959 --> 02:28:56,320
Speaker 4: lay out on the calendar, and then it feels like, frankly,

3596
02:28:56,720 --> 02:28:58,800
Speaker 4: the fact that there are so many months without games.

3597
02:28:58,959 --> 02:29:01,360
Speaker 4: I keep going back to this, but as a Raiders fan,

3598
02:29:01,480 --> 02:29:04,480
Speaker 4: for example, the last meaningful football game I saw for

3599
02:29:04,600 --> 02:29:06,880
Speaker 4: my favorite team was the beginning of January. I won't

3600
02:29:06,920 --> 02:29:10,879
Speaker 4: get a meaningful football game again until the beginning of September.

3601
02:29:11,200 --> 02:29:14,160
Speaker 4: That is nine months that you say, eight full months

3602
02:29:14,200 --> 02:29:16,959
Speaker 4: that you sit there and you just wait, you wait

3603
02:29:17,080 --> 02:29:19,680
Speaker 4: to watch your favorite team. No other sport has a

3604
02:29:19,800 --> 02:29:23,200
Speaker 4: break like that and then has their games consolidated in

3605
02:29:23,280 --> 02:29:25,320
Speaker 4: a way that you can spend the whole week looking

3606
02:29:25,360 --> 02:29:28,640
Speaker 4: forward to, Like if the Yankees lose to the Red Sox. Okay,

3607
02:29:28,920 --> 02:29:31,800
Speaker 4: two days later, you're onto whatever's next, Right, Like if

3608
02:29:31,840 --> 02:29:33,720
Speaker 4: the Raiders lose to the Chiefs, I have to sit

3609
02:29:33,800 --> 02:29:36,360
Speaker 4: there and wallow in it for seven days. Just it

3610
02:29:36,480 --> 02:29:40,040
Speaker 4: creates a different reaction because there's just different there's different inventory,

3611
02:29:40,160 --> 02:29:41,039
Speaker 4: there's different timing.

3612
02:29:41,480 --> 02:29:44,440
Speaker 1: All of that together creates this really perfect moment.

3613
02:29:44,560 --> 02:29:47,680
Speaker 4: And there's no different to me than if your favorite

3614
02:29:47,720 --> 02:29:49,920
Speaker 4: TV show is gone for a couple of years. When

3615
02:29:49,920 --> 02:29:52,440
Speaker 4: it comes back, everybody's enamored with it. Your favorite movie.

3616
02:29:52,440 --> 02:29:54,359
Speaker 4: If they put too many out in a row, everybody

3617
02:29:54,440 --> 02:29:57,120
Speaker 4: freaks out like you. Just the spacing of it makes

3618
02:29:57,160 --> 02:29:59,440
Speaker 4: it far more easy to become obsessed with.

3619
02:30:00,400 --> 02:30:02,200
Speaker 3: I certainly can't argue with anything you say.

3620
02:30:02,400 --> 02:30:05,879
Speaker 2: I'm gonna add to that saying that maybe gambling, obviously

3621
02:30:05,959 --> 02:30:08,560
Speaker 2: fantasy football makes football perhaps more interesting.

3622
02:30:08,640 --> 02:30:10,600
Speaker 3: But here's the key, in my heart of hearts, I

3623
02:30:10,680 --> 02:30:12,519
Speaker 3: think this is the major reason.

3624
02:30:12,240 --> 02:30:18,560
Speaker 2: Why football has passed the so called national pastime in interest,

3625
02:30:18,720 --> 02:30:21,640
Speaker 2: fan interest, and participation watching whatever it may be.

3626
02:30:22,320 --> 02:30:23,480
Speaker 3: This story's every day.

3627
02:30:23,560 --> 02:30:26,520
Speaker 2: For example, to a tagle Ivoa just the end of

3628
02:30:26,520 --> 02:30:28,600
Speaker 2: the day called his former coach Brian Floor is a

3629
02:30:28,680 --> 02:30:32,840
Speaker 2: terrible person. You don't see stories like that in Major

3630
02:30:32,920 --> 02:30:36,440
Speaker 2: League Baseball. It stirs the pot, it keeps the interest going.

3631
02:30:36,680 --> 02:30:39,240
Speaker 2: The media loves this stuff. What was the last time

3632
02:30:39,320 --> 02:30:42,000
Speaker 2: you saw a story like that in Major League baseball?

3633
02:30:42,240 --> 02:30:46,240
Speaker 2: When did you see Aaron Aaron Judge say that Aaron

3634
02:30:46,280 --> 02:30:49,520
Speaker 2: Boone's a terrible manager, or someone on his team said

3635
02:30:49,560 --> 02:30:52,160
Speaker 2: some other manager was banned on another team. You know,

3636
02:30:52,520 --> 02:30:55,040
Speaker 2: why didn't some player come out and say, to Chicago

3637
02:30:55,160 --> 02:30:57,360
Speaker 2: White Sox, maybe the worst team he's ever seen in

3638
02:30:57,520 --> 02:30:58,400
Speaker 2: major league sports?

3639
02:30:58,600 --> 02:30:59,840
Speaker 3: You don't see that in baseball.

3640
02:31:00,160 --> 02:31:03,840
Speaker 2: Football has a story almost every day. And Brian Flores

3641
02:31:03,879 --> 02:31:07,800
Speaker 2: now is the Minnesota Vikings defensive coordinator coach to when

3642
02:31:07,840 --> 02:31:10,800
Speaker 2: he coached the Miami Dolphins. Tua comes out and says

3643
02:31:11,040 --> 02:31:14,040
Speaker 2: Flores is a terrible person. He said, I'm genuine. I mean,

3644
02:31:14,160 --> 02:31:18,000
Speaker 2: it's unbelievable. And now that was way back then. I

3645
02:31:18,080 --> 02:31:20,800
Speaker 2: mean he coached Miami in twenty twenty and twenty twenty one.

3646
02:31:21,040 --> 02:31:23,640
Speaker 2: But these are things that we thrive on. We love

3647
02:31:23,720 --> 02:31:26,640
Speaker 2: this stuff. This is father that keeps us right on

3648
02:31:26,760 --> 02:31:29,760
Speaker 2: top of things. Baseball doesn't have that, and maybe baseball

3649
02:31:29,800 --> 02:31:32,280
Speaker 2: should have that to keep baseball back in the news.

3650
02:31:32,400 --> 02:31:33,480
Speaker 3: They don't have stuff like that.

3651
02:31:34,720 --> 02:31:37,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, baseball though, and baseball fans seem to live in

3652
02:31:37,800 --> 02:31:41,680
Speaker 4: a world of you know, wanting more respects than those things. Now,

3653
02:31:42,320 --> 02:31:44,600
Speaker 4: I will counter your drama argument day in and day

3654
02:31:44,640 --> 02:31:46,520
Speaker 4: out and say that's sort of what feeds the NBA.

3655
02:31:46,959 --> 02:31:49,560
Speaker 4: The problem is the NBA product at night in and

3656
02:31:49,680 --> 02:31:52,200
Speaker 4: night out isn't as significant. So the NBA drama, well,

3657
02:31:52,200 --> 02:31:53,240
Speaker 4: they don't play every day.

3658
02:31:53,840 --> 02:31:56,280
Speaker 2: The load management garbagator, they don't play and there's too

3659
02:31:56,280 --> 02:31:58,600
Speaker 2: many games to play anyway, but they just don't play

3660
02:31:58,640 --> 02:31:59,880
Speaker 2: every game, you know.

3661
02:32:00,160 --> 02:32:03,720
Speaker 1: I mean so like they've managed the soap opera.

3662
02:32:03,840 --> 02:32:07,360
Speaker 4: They've managed the Bravo Network level soap opera around it,

3663
02:32:07,480 --> 02:32:09,600
Speaker 4: they just don't have an actual product to back it up.

3664
02:32:10,000 --> 02:32:12,440
Speaker 4: The NFL seems to be the fine balance on the two,

3665
02:32:12,480 --> 02:32:14,960
Speaker 4: you know, and that definitely makes a difference in it,

3666
02:32:15,080 --> 02:32:17,400
Speaker 4: Like you've got to have if you've got to have

3667
02:32:17,480 --> 02:32:21,320
Speaker 4: conversation at the week mixed with a an actual product

3668
02:32:21,320 --> 02:32:23,360
Speaker 4: that people want to see every day, otherwise eventually they

3669
02:32:23,440 --> 02:32:23,960
Speaker 4: just tune out.

3670
02:32:24,040 --> 02:32:24,160
Speaker 2: You know.

3671
02:32:24,920 --> 02:32:26,080
Speaker 3: Well, it's amazing.

3672
02:32:26,240 --> 02:32:28,680
Speaker 2: I don't know why two of must really dislike this

3673
02:32:28,840 --> 02:32:31,280
Speaker 2: guy or he had nothing else to say that day,

3674
02:32:31,360 --> 02:32:33,680
Speaker 2: but he said that quote. If you woke up every

3675
02:32:33,720 --> 02:32:36,119
Speaker 2: morning and I told you that you sucker what you did,

3676
02:32:36,360 --> 02:32:38,440
Speaker 2: that you don't belong what you do when you're doing it,

3677
02:32:38,680 --> 02:32:41,040
Speaker 2: that you shouldn't be here, that this guy shouldn't be here,

3678
02:32:41,200 --> 02:32:43,360
Speaker 2: that you haven't earned this right. Then you have someone

3679
02:32:43,440 --> 02:32:45,440
Speaker 2: else come in and tell you, hey, dude, you're the

3680
02:32:45,520 --> 02:32:47,800
Speaker 2: best fit for this. How would it make you feel

3681
02:32:47,879 --> 02:32:50,280
Speaker 2: listening to one or listening to the other, apparently talking

3682
02:32:50,320 --> 02:32:54,640
Speaker 2: about coach Mike McDaniel compared to coach Brian Flores. I mean,

3683
02:32:55,000 --> 02:32:57,560
Speaker 2: this guy had such a bad taste in his mouth

3684
02:32:57,840 --> 02:32:59,480
Speaker 2: with Brian Flores, it's unbelievable.

3685
02:32:59,520 --> 02:33:01,360
Speaker 3: Really think think about it. Sometimes you just got to

3686
02:33:01,400 --> 02:33:02,240
Speaker 3: let things like that go.

3687
02:33:02,760 --> 02:33:06,080
Speaker 2: I mean, this is something that's really really eating him

3688
02:33:06,160 --> 02:33:09,600
Speaker 2: up alive. I can't believe he must have really disliked

3689
02:33:09,640 --> 02:33:10,400
Speaker 2: Brian Flores.

3690
02:33:11,640 --> 02:33:13,720
Speaker 1: Well, I think Flores has got to learn from this too.

3691
02:33:13,800 --> 02:33:16,200
Speaker 4: And I've talked to a couple guys that played in

3692
02:33:16,280 --> 02:33:18,600
Speaker 4: the league and asked a lot about this. And one

3693
02:33:18,640 --> 02:33:21,440
Speaker 4: thing that you realize is that the great coaches are

3694
02:33:21,560 --> 02:33:24,000
Speaker 4: also great at reading the room with the personalities as

3695
02:33:24,000 --> 02:33:25,840
Speaker 4: they deal with Some people respond to that, you know,

3696
02:33:25,959 --> 02:33:28,680
Speaker 4: some people respond to coaching of you suck, get better.

3697
02:33:29,040 --> 02:33:33,240
Speaker 4: I personally, I've always loved being a hard judgment, whether

3698
02:33:33,280 --> 02:33:35,800
Speaker 4: it's from you know, teachers or whether it's from coaches,

3699
02:33:35,879 --> 02:33:38,120
Speaker 4: whether like I always like somebody that will come in

3700
02:33:38,200 --> 02:33:39,920
Speaker 4: and say, hey, that sucked, that was terrible, do better

3701
02:33:39,959 --> 02:33:41,720
Speaker 4: be better? Like I respond to that. There are a

3702
02:33:41,720 --> 02:33:43,360
Speaker 4: lot of people that don't. And one thing you have

3703
02:33:43,480 --> 02:33:45,080
Speaker 4: to do as a coaches, you've got to figure out

3704
02:33:45,240 --> 02:33:48,440
Speaker 4: how each person requires communication, and you've really got to

3705
02:33:48,480 --> 02:33:51,640
Speaker 4: find yourself communicating on their level. It takes like a

3706
02:33:51,800 --> 02:33:53,880
Speaker 4: class on communication to be able to do that at

3707
02:33:53,879 --> 02:33:56,200
Speaker 4: the highest level, and Flores obviously hasn't done it. For

3708
02:33:56,320 --> 02:33:59,840
Speaker 4: him to essentially coach Tua into a bubble is a

3709
02:34:00,080 --> 02:34:02,600
Speaker 4: statement frankly that he wasn't doing a very good job

3710
02:34:02,640 --> 02:34:05,480
Speaker 4: of reading the personality. And some guys are like it's allowed.

3711
02:34:05,520 --> 02:34:07,600
Speaker 4: Some guys are more sensitive than others. And if you

3712
02:34:07,640 --> 02:34:09,160
Speaker 4: want to get the best out of your quarterback, you

3713
02:34:09,240 --> 02:34:11,280
Speaker 4: better figure out how to communicate to that quarterback the

3714
02:34:11,320 --> 02:34:13,720
Speaker 4: way that gets the best out of him. Flores obviously

3715
02:34:13,840 --> 02:34:16,880
Speaker 4: didn't do that. Mike McDaniel obviously is doing that. But

3716
02:34:16,920 --> 02:34:19,720
Speaker 4: I would tell everybody this one important thing for all

3717
02:34:19,800 --> 02:34:22,360
Speaker 4: of the praise we give Mike McDaniel so far in

3718
02:34:22,440 --> 02:34:25,600
Speaker 4: his tenure, he's won one more game than Flora. Right, Yeah,

3719
02:34:26,200 --> 02:34:28,640
Speaker 4: we see him differently, but like the result, the result

3720
02:34:28,680 --> 02:34:30,640
Speaker 4: for the Dolphins either way has not been what.

3721
02:34:30,720 --> 02:34:32,080
Speaker 1: It needs to be right.

3722
02:34:32,280 --> 02:34:34,040
Speaker 2: And you know, according to p Rose, and he was

3723
02:34:34,080 --> 02:34:36,879
Speaker 2: managing the Cincinnati Registers, there's three ways to treat your players.

3724
02:34:37,320 --> 02:34:39,480
Speaker 3: One you can pat him on the back. Number two,

3725
02:34:39,520 --> 02:34:40,440
Speaker 3: you just leave him alone.

3726
02:34:41,000 --> 02:34:42,480
Speaker 2: And the third one some of them just need a

3727
02:34:42,520 --> 02:34:44,000
Speaker 2: lot of coaching and you got to push him to

3728
02:34:44,080 --> 02:34:46,320
Speaker 2: get the best potential out of them. Three things you

3729
02:34:46,360 --> 02:34:48,000
Speaker 2: got to do as a coach and they were a manager.

3730
02:34:48,080 --> 02:34:51,680
Speaker 2: But two has said quote having a terrible person, meaning

3731
02:34:51,720 --> 02:34:54,640
Speaker 2: Flores was a terrible person. Having a terrible person telling

3732
02:34:54,680 --> 02:34:56,600
Speaker 2: you things that you don't want to hear or probably

3733
02:34:56,600 --> 02:34:59,080
Speaker 2: shouldn't be hearing, will eventually lead to a person starting

3734
02:34:59,120 --> 02:35:02,120
Speaker 2: to believe those things. Look, I wasn't there at the time.

3735
02:35:02,240 --> 02:35:04,160
Speaker 2: I don't want to be there. I'm just reading and

3736
02:35:04,320 --> 02:35:06,960
Speaker 2: hearing what I see and what I read. The point

3737
02:35:07,120 --> 02:35:10,760
Speaker 2: is this, sometimes people can't handle this, and obviously Tua

3738
02:35:10,800 --> 02:35:13,119
Speaker 2: could not handle these things, and he was not coached

3739
02:35:13,160 --> 02:35:15,800
Speaker 2: to proper way. You know, and look, there's a way

3740
02:35:15,840 --> 02:35:19,480
Speaker 2: to get to a guy, and maybe Flores did not understand.

3741
02:35:21,080 --> 02:35:25,120
Speaker 2: I guess the persona of a tour to really get

3742
02:35:25,200 --> 02:35:27,320
Speaker 2: to him, get between the ears, and he couldn't do it.

3743
02:35:27,560 --> 02:35:30,840
Speaker 2: It didn't work out. So now there's some bad blood

3744
02:35:30,920 --> 02:35:33,520
Speaker 2: between the two, which is good for the NFL. They

3745
02:35:33,640 --> 02:35:36,400
Speaker 2: love that because it creates storylines and that's basically what

3746
02:35:36,520 --> 02:35:37,119
Speaker 2: keeps them alive.

3747
02:35:37,200 --> 02:35:37,720
Speaker 3: It really does.

3748
02:35:38,080 --> 02:35:40,360
Speaker 2: Who knows, I don't know, maybe on way off base

3749
02:35:40,400 --> 02:35:43,560
Speaker 2: on that, but I think I'm onto something.

3750
02:35:43,600 --> 02:35:44,160
Speaker 3: What do you think?

3751
02:35:44,560 --> 02:35:46,760
Speaker 1: Maybe I think you're right. I think you're right.

3752
02:35:47,200 --> 02:35:47,680
Speaker 3: Listen to you.

3753
02:35:47,879 --> 02:35:48,320
Speaker 1: I love you.

3754
02:35:48,520 --> 02:35:51,240
Speaker 2: There we go, all right, he Jason fits. I'm Andy

3755
02:35:51,280 --> 02:35:54,320
Speaker 2: Firmway on Fox Sports Sunday on Fox Sports. Ready, it's

3756
02:35:54,400 --> 02:35:57,800
Speaker 2: time to say yay or nay, and you know what

3757
02:35:58,360 --> 02:36:02,320
Speaker 2: freaking next coming right up? Okay, it's about eleven minutes

3758
02:36:02,320 --> 02:36:04,320
Speaker 2: before the top of the hour and we're lye from

3759
02:36:04,360 --> 02:36:05,640
Speaker 2: the tire rack dot Com studios.

3760
02:36:05,680 --> 02:36:07,280
Speaker 3: By the way, at the top of the hour, which

3761
02:36:07,320 --> 02:36:09,160
Speaker 3: would be ten a m.

3762
02:36:09,400 --> 02:36:13,160
Speaker 2: Eastern time, count down the kickoff of my guys Brian no,

3763
02:36:13,760 --> 02:36:16,480
Speaker 2: Jeff Schwartz, and Bill Krachnolbergers Top of the Hour, right

3764
02:36:16,520 --> 02:36:18,960
Speaker 2: here on Fox Sports Radio. And before we get into

3765
02:36:19,040 --> 02:36:21,560
Speaker 2: ya you RNA. What a great staff we have here,

3766
02:36:21,760 --> 02:36:23,680
Speaker 2: really do. I want to thank them, and I want

3767
02:36:23,720 --> 02:36:26,160
Speaker 2: to thank my guy Jason Fitz. Thank you so much.

3768
02:36:26,240 --> 02:36:28,760
Speaker 2: A wonderful four hours with you today. I totally enjoyed it,

3769
02:36:29,000 --> 02:36:32,760
Speaker 2: so thank you for that. But mighty Mark Ramsey, Kevin

3770
02:36:32,800 --> 02:36:35,879
Speaker 2: Wyo Sports Updates. I love doing the sports updates as well.

3771
02:36:36,200 --> 02:36:39,560
Speaker 2: Chris Purfet doing that mister soccer stuff he's with us,

3772
02:36:39,760 --> 02:36:41,880
Speaker 2: and of course Shay Shay Shay Shay.

3773
02:36:42,000 --> 02:36:43,080
Speaker 3: Let's do yay nay.

3774
02:36:44,800 --> 02:36:49,480
Speaker 5: Okay, let's begin rack those brains, gentlemen, these stories.

3775
02:36:49,120 --> 02:36:51,280
Speaker 1: Need an ass I think we need a ruling on this.

3776
02:36:51,520 --> 02:36:52,920
Speaker 1: It's yay or nay.

3777
02:36:54,520 --> 02:36:56,800
Speaker 8: Hey, you guys doing and a fun little new sounder

3778
02:36:56,920 --> 02:36:58,480
Speaker 8: for a new game. We'd like to call it Yeay

3779
02:36:58,560 --> 02:37:02,040
Speaker 8: or Nay. It is your first time tuning in. Yay

3780
02:37:02,200 --> 02:37:04,400
Speaker 8: or Nay is the game where I basically tell the

3781
02:37:04,480 --> 02:37:06,840
Speaker 8: guys sports stories from around the world and they tell

3782
02:37:06,920 --> 02:37:10,680
Speaker 8: me yay or nay. You guys ready, Yeah, let's get

3783
02:37:10,760 --> 02:37:11,240
Speaker 8: right into it.

3784
02:37:11,400 --> 02:37:12,240
Speaker 1: We're are ready. Let's go.

3785
02:37:13,280 --> 02:37:15,480
Speaker 8: So the National League MVP will go to a d

3786
02:37:15,800 --> 02:37:19,920
Speaker 8: H Marcela Zuna from the Braves or the Dodgers. Show Hey, O, Tani,

3787
02:37:20,200 --> 02:37:21,920
Speaker 8: yay or nay, Andy. Let's start with you.

3788
02:37:22,240 --> 02:37:24,880
Speaker 2: So let Jay he's a guest, come on, let him

3789
02:37:24,920 --> 02:37:25,360
Speaker 2: go first.

3790
02:37:25,360 --> 02:37:26,960
Speaker 3: Don't be a chase and go to Show Hey.

3791
02:37:27,040 --> 02:37:27,160
Speaker 9: Hey.

3792
02:37:27,440 --> 02:37:30,000
Speaker 4: It's just as easy like it'll go to Show Hey.

3793
02:37:30,080 --> 02:37:32,160
Speaker 4: It should go to Show Hey. Like at this point,

3794
02:37:32,440 --> 02:37:33,879
Speaker 4: Show Hey is a little like Caitlin Clark.

3795
02:37:33,920 --> 02:37:34,760
Speaker 1: I no longer care.

3796
02:37:34,680 --> 02:37:36,840
Speaker 4: About any of the rules that anybody has about anything.

3797
02:37:37,120 --> 02:37:39,480
Speaker 4: You just make sure Show Hey gets every year possible award,

3798
02:37:39,560 --> 02:37:42,560
Speaker 4: every possible thing, plus not for nothing. I mean to

3799
02:37:43,240 --> 02:37:45,600
Speaker 4: reach the forty forty club in what twenty one games

3800
02:37:45,640 --> 02:37:47,640
Speaker 4: faster than anyone else has ever done it in history.

3801
02:37:47,720 --> 02:37:50,040
Speaker 1: Let's just yeah, let's it's all Show Hey, all Show

3802
02:37:50,240 --> 02:37:52,600
Speaker 1: all Show Hey, all days. That's what I say.

3803
02:37:52,800 --> 02:37:54,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got a yay for Show Hey. But I'm

3804
02:37:54,720 --> 02:37:56,879
Speaker 2: more concerned what if I happened to his bookmaker. I mean,

3805
02:37:56,920 --> 02:37:58,640
Speaker 2: the guy was taking his bet, so really, I mean

3806
02:37:58,920 --> 02:38:01,520
Speaker 2: that story's been buried, that are ruck. I mean, when

3807
02:38:01,560 --> 02:38:03,879
Speaker 2: he gets the award for MVP, could the book guy

3808
02:38:04,000 --> 02:38:04,600
Speaker 2: come up with him?

3809
02:38:04,600 --> 02:38:06,280
Speaker 3: The bookie? Could he accept with him?

3810
02:38:06,320 --> 02:38:08,720
Speaker 2: Because this is one of the biggest stories in sports

3811
02:38:08,760 --> 02:38:10,560
Speaker 2: and just like one away, the disappeared.

3812
02:38:10,600 --> 02:38:12,800
Speaker 3: But yay for show. Hey, he's gonna get it. He

3813
02:38:12,920 --> 02:38:13,400
Speaker 3: deserves it.

3814
02:38:14,240 --> 02:38:16,880
Speaker 8: If Aaron Rodgers plays in at least thirteen games for

3815
02:38:16,959 --> 02:38:19,880
Speaker 8: the Jets, do they win the AFC East? Yay or nay?

3816
02:38:20,440 --> 02:38:21,119
Speaker 3: I say yay.

3817
02:38:21,240 --> 02:38:23,320
Speaker 2: He's got to stay healthy, gotta stayley. Look, I got

3818
02:38:23,360 --> 02:38:25,680
Speaker 2: a great defense, they really do. I think they got

3819
02:38:25,720 --> 02:38:28,119
Speaker 2: everything put together. Let him play at least thirteen games

3820
02:38:28,160 --> 02:38:30,520
Speaker 2: this year. They're going to the playoffs. They probably will

3821
02:38:30,520 --> 02:38:32,800
Speaker 2: win the AFCs. I'll tell you what the big surprise

3822
02:38:32,920 --> 02:38:36,080
Speaker 2: might be. The Miami Dolphins not as good as last year.

3823
02:38:36,240 --> 02:38:38,040
Speaker 3: How do you like that? So I say yay for

3824
02:38:38,120 --> 02:38:42,160
Speaker 3: the Jets. Yea Aaron Rodgers, I say.

3825
02:38:42,240 --> 02:38:44,800
Speaker 4: Yay to the playoffs, but nay to winning the division.

3826
02:38:44,879 --> 02:38:47,800
Speaker 4: The death of the Buffalo Bills is annually reported simply

3827
02:38:47,840 --> 02:38:50,120
Speaker 4: because they can't beat the Chiefs. I'm not willing to

3828
02:38:50,200 --> 02:38:52,120
Speaker 4: do that. They're still the Bills. They still won a

3829
02:38:52,160 --> 02:38:54,400
Speaker 4: bunch of football games. I know that they lost a

3830
02:38:54,440 --> 02:38:56,320
Speaker 4: weapon of wide receiver we all care a lot about.

3831
02:38:56,400 --> 02:38:58,400
Speaker 4: But one of the guys that played with Josh Allen

3832
02:38:58,440 --> 02:39:01,040
Speaker 4: for years told me that internally the organization believes that

3833
02:39:01,120 --> 02:39:03,760
Speaker 4: Josh Allen will account for forty touchdowns no matter what.

3834
02:39:03,879 --> 02:39:05,760
Speaker 4: Whether that's through the air on the ground doesn't matter.

3835
02:39:05,800 --> 02:39:07,920
Speaker 4: They think he counts for forty. So let's see what

3836
02:39:08,000 --> 02:39:09,720
Speaker 4: that number looks like. I think the Bills are still

3837
02:39:09,720 --> 02:39:10,959
Speaker 4: gonna win more games than the Jets.

3838
02:39:11,400 --> 02:39:14,760
Speaker 3: No, Stefan Diggs's loss is a big loss. Big loss.

3839
02:39:15,240 --> 02:39:17,480
Speaker 1: Speaking of the back after the season, it was an

3840
02:39:17,480 --> 02:39:18,000
Speaker 1: okay loss.

3841
02:39:18,040 --> 02:39:21,400
Speaker 8: Go ahead, guys, speaking of the Bills. Disappointing seasons are

3842
02:39:21,400 --> 02:39:24,400
Speaker 8: on the horizon for quarterback Josh Allen of Buffalo and

3843
02:39:24,520 --> 02:39:26,120
Speaker 8: quarterback Deshaun Watson in Cleveland.

3844
02:39:26,240 --> 02:39:29,600
Speaker 2: Yeah your name, Oh I go, I mean yeah, yeah,

3845
02:39:29,720 --> 02:39:32,240
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say yeah. Game with DeShawn DeShawn? I mean

3846
02:39:32,320 --> 02:39:35,800
Speaker 2: I really and truly it's embarrassing. Come on, go out there,

3847
02:39:35,920 --> 02:39:37,480
Speaker 2: take the rust. I want to see what you could do.

3848
02:39:37,879 --> 02:39:41,080
Speaker 2: Josh Allen, I'm on the fence a little bit, but

3849
02:39:41,120 --> 02:39:42,520
Speaker 2: I don't think the Bills are going to be as.

3850
02:39:42,400 --> 02:39:43,080
Speaker 3: Good as last year.

3851
02:39:43,120 --> 02:39:46,840
Speaker 2: But Deshaun Watson obviously big disappointment. You spent all that

3852
02:39:46,959 --> 02:39:49,120
Speaker 2: money on him in Cleveland. Now you gotta eat it.

3853
02:39:49,360 --> 02:39:51,600
Speaker 1: How do you like that? Yeah?

3854
02:39:51,840 --> 02:39:54,280
Speaker 4: The Deshaun want he By the way, go look at

3855
02:39:54,280 --> 02:39:56,040
Speaker 4: the dead cap hits if they try and get rid

3856
02:39:56,080 --> 02:39:57,720
Speaker 4: of DeShawn at any point. I think it's one hundred

3857
02:39:57,720 --> 02:40:00,120
Speaker 4: and thirty million next year, in eighty or nineteen, and

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Speaker 4: after the year after that. So yeah, DeShawn absolutely, but

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Speaker 4: nay to Josh Allen, no step back for Joshjosh will

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Speaker 4: still be an MVP candidate.

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Speaker 8: Brandon I will be playing for the San Francisco forty

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Speaker 8: nine Ers this season, yeay or nay? Andy easy, Yay.

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Speaker 2: He definitely will be did some rumors now with the

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Speaker 2: Washington Commanders, but you know what, they had been talks

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Speaker 2: for months about that ain't gonna have He'll be back

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Speaker 2: in San Francisco.

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Speaker 3: However, if he's not the forty nine, it can still

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Speaker 3: win without him.

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Speaker 4: I've been saying yay since the rumors first started. He's

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Speaker 4: always going to be a forty nine.

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Speaker 1: Yep, I'm all in on that.

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Speaker 3: There we go a pleasure Jason at pleasure. Hope we

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Speaker 3: do it again.

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Speaker 2: My friend count dout the kickoff coming up next where

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Speaker 2: right here on Fox Sports Radio.