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The Around the NFL Podcast doesn't 11 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 1: care about your fantasy team. Welcome back to another edition 12 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 1: of the Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansis, 13 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: and I am joined by a room filled with heroes. 14 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, and Greg Rosenthal. What's up boys? 15 00:00:56,400 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: Hey Dan, it's here the third annual Fantasy Football Extravaganza. Ah. 16 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: The excitement so high, sky high? Is the excitement internally 17 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: that downstairs when I when I said it was three 18 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: shows this week, we're gonna do it, I think Mark, 19 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 1: you went really And I was just like, why would 20 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: we do that. That's where we're at right now. But listen, 21 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 1: fantasy is one of the most popular UH things in 22 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: the world. So we're going to talk about fantasy this week. 23 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: But just it's not gonna be the whole show of fantasy. 24 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 1: You just want everybody to know. In fact, we won't 25 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 1: even get to fantasy until the back end of the 26 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 1: three shows this week. But we will try to impart 27 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 1: wisdom as I know a lot of you are drafting 28 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: UH in the next couple of weeks. I mean, it's 29 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: the one week of the year that the sunshine and 30 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 1: the happiness is wiped off Mark Sessor's face. That's how 31 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: you know it's it's fantasy week. It is easily the 32 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: most forgettable week of my entire year. And I will happily, 33 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: you know, I I just got corralled into today's episode. 34 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: Don't assume I'll be here for the other two. How 35 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: how much of this does get tied into Mark in 36 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 1: terms of an ego shot that this is something that's 37 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: built around Greg Rosenthal and Chris Wesling, the guys that 38 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 1: ran road a world once upon a time, and you 39 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: feel as if you're being marginalized in your own parties. 40 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:26,519 Speaker 1: I don't have any problem with magnifying the two of them. 41 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 1: Their their roles in the fantasy community are noted. But 42 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: the concept that I'm not that I'm just some guy 43 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: that got dropped into the show airlifted in who has 44 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 1: never watched football before, is obscene, especially when you dominated 45 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: your wife's fantasy league. That is exactly right. Another point, 46 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: he beat some accountants who thought they knew stuff stuff 47 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 1: about football. Alright, So to take that, that beating that 48 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:54,639 Speaker 1: you laid at the hands of those teacher aids and 49 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:58,079 Speaker 1: the accountants, uh, and take that and funnel it now 50 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: to the street corner. We'll we'll be checked king. Then 51 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: occasionally you can let the listeners be the judge. Who 52 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: are the real the real insiders around here. You've got 53 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: a plat Yeah, I'm just being very clear. I'm extremely detached. 54 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: That's I like that you're upfront about it. That's important. Yes, 55 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: we in addition to the fantasy extravaganza, we will also 56 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: touch on all the action from Saturday, sun Friday, Saturday 57 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: and Sunday in the NFL um a lot of football games. 58 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 1: To talk about. How many football games, I'll tell you 59 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: how many we talked about the seven games on Thursday. 60 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: Sixteen seven is nine nine divided by two is four 61 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: and a half. Talk about four and a half games? 62 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: Did that check out the math? Not at all. I 63 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: went too far. I don't even think you had the 64 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: correct number of games from Thursday. I think there are 65 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 1: six games there. Okay, so that was part of the problem. 66 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 1: Let me try it again. Sixteen games six discussed on Thursday. 67 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: I mean Friday show ten shows? Excuse me? Ten games? Uh, 68 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: Friday Saturday five each? Is that right? We are? We're 69 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: recording right now. You know. I don't even know what's happening. 70 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about ten games by two one one 71 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: step too far, But I think people get it. I 72 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: got I got in the weeds a little bit. There 73 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 1: it happens. So yes, we'll talk about all the games 74 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 1: from the weekend that we didn't talk about on Friday show. 75 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:34,679 Speaker 1: And uh, I'm excited. Everybody get excited. Behind the glass 76 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 1: There he is, and there's actually somebody else behind the 77 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: glass too. Back from her sojourn, I imagine there are 78 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 1: many trips to Disneyland. Uh. During that time, also a 79 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:47,599 Speaker 1: budding acting career that we'll get into at some point 80 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 1: because we're gonna get her back in the chair soon. 81 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 1: Sydney's back in there, last Sid back in the house, 82 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 1: but right now in the chair, still not ready to 83 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 1: give up the throne. The man that says, I forget 84 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: about me. I deserve to be on Mount Rushmore. The Irishman. 85 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: What's up, buddy. Sorry to disappoint all the listeners that 86 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 1: want to didn'ty back already, but too bad. But you 87 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 1: know what, something to look forward to for the people 88 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: that do not like me. Sydney. He's doing Friday Show. Wow, 89 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: how exciting, And I guess I'll tease it right now. 90 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:22,039 Speaker 1: Wednesday Show, we'll have somebody else in the chair. Um. 91 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 1: We'll hold on the news though, because I don't know 92 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: if the news is out, so somebody else will be 93 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,679 Speaker 1: in the chair. And not to mention later in this week, 94 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: because this is, after all, the third annual Fantasy Extravaganza. 95 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 1: Got a big fish from the fantasy community on Friday. 96 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 1: But that's down the road. Let's now talk about some 97 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 1: football games that occurred this weekend, and let us start 98 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 1: with the defending Super Bowl champions who Let's let's face it, 99 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: I mean, when John I would the decision to let 100 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: bracos Wiler go. He needed somebody to step up in 101 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 1: that room, quarterback room, um Mark Sanchez, Trevor Simeon, Paxton 102 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 1: Lynch Uh. Nobody has done it yet, and that's what 103 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 1: that's the issue we're dealing with in Denver right now. 104 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: They have a loaded Super Bowl ready team, but a 105 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 1: quarterback situation Gregg Rosenthal that remains a mess after Mark 106 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: Sanchez struggled, as did Trevor Simeon, But it will be 107 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 1: Trevor Simeon that gets a Week three of the preseason start, 108 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:29,159 Speaker 1: which usually points to who starts the season. I think 109 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 1: that makes a lot of sense when you look at 110 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: the two preseason games from Trevor Simeon and the practice 111 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: reports that we've heard, and it was unfortunate that Simeon, 112 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:42,359 Speaker 1: who had a great first drive and was playing well overall, 113 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:44,799 Speaker 1: uh through this pick six. The thing I'd be worried 114 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: about if I was a Broncos fan that when Simeon 115 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: and Sanchez both made their first mistake, it seemed to 116 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 1: affect the two of them. Simeon's worst drive was right 117 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: after he threw that pick six. Sanchez, who had a 118 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: great first drive again had an eight play stretch where 119 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 1: he umbled twice and he almost threw two other interceptions. 120 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 1: So to me, it was more like Sanchez was the 121 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: big loser and Simeon was just there. Simeon the pick 122 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: six was noteworthy, but also his penchant for not testing 123 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: defenses down the field when he's got one on one 124 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 1: coverage with the Marys Thomas and Emmanuel Sanders and he 125 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 1: opts for dump offs. I think that's an issue, but 126 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: with their defense, maybe that's preferable to Sanchez's penchant for turnovers. 127 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 1: I mean, if you're gonna hold off on Paxton Lynch 128 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: as they should for a certain amount of the season, 129 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: I could see all three of these quarterbacks starting. We've 130 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: been saying that since basically this thing kind of developed 131 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: the way they did. But I would easily go Simeon 132 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: over Sanchez. Simeon is just has a more natural throw, 133 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: like watching him is just easier on the eyes. And 134 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 1: I watched the seventh round pick. Yeah, he I watched 135 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 1: him right after Osweiler, and maybe the comparison between the 136 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 1: two helps Simeon On that first drive look better. Before 137 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: you're right, things started to crumble. But honestly, he he 138 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: looks better to me than brock Osweiler right now. The 139 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 1: only reason he was drafted at all it was because 140 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 1: Gary Kubiak saw some film of him and said, why, 141 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: this guy looks like he's got all the tools, but 142 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: I believe he had a torn a c l is 143 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: last year in college and didn't play well outside of 144 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 1: a game against Notre Dame. Well, this is where Sanchez's 145 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 1: track record kills him, I think, because at least simmey 146 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: and he's making these mistakes for the first time. I 147 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: was just about to say that, I think there's a 148 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 1: little like Sanchez blowed for anyone that's been covering the 149 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 1: game for years that you're just everyone is seeing this guy. 150 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 1: So he's not gonna be different. He's gonna be Mark Sanchez, 151 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 1: which is uh, some good but a lot of bad. 152 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: Simeon could be just as bad, if not worse, let's 153 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: face it. But at least that's you're taking a chance 154 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: on something different. You're leaving yourself open to another path. 155 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 1: About a little game of over under Dan, Okay, Paxton 156 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 1: Lynch starts this year, Oh what's the over under? I'll go, 157 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: but you gotta throwout the number. I'll throwout the number 158 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: oh thirteen. Well, I'm definitely going under. I'll go under. 159 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 1: But had you said ten, I would have I would 160 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: have been there with you. I'll go under. I'm taking 161 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 1: the over. I Trevor Simmey, and I know it's a 162 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 1: little early to even like or not like, but I 163 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: think he has a chance to start a lot of games. 164 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: This is a great a great, great job. It's not 165 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: it's not gonna be that hard to to look good. 166 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:13,719 Speaker 1: I feel I do as a former Jets player. I 167 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:15,959 Speaker 1: do feel bad for Mark Sanchez because he said it 168 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: after the game. He knows he blew this. He had 169 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:21,439 Speaker 1: an opportunity to jump start his career with a defending 170 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: Super Bowl champion, but his all, his lack of ability 171 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: uh as at a starting level just um, you know 172 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 1: it led to his demise here on the other side 173 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:34,439 Speaker 1: of the ball, guys, um west uh. Blaine Gabbert should 174 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: have this forty Honors job locked up, but he can't separate, 175 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 1: kind of leaving the door a little bit open for Kaepernick. 176 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 1: But Kaepernick has got to do some things first. Well, yeah, 177 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 1: Cab Gabbert wasn't a train wreck. He was just okay. 178 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 1: But I don't know it's cap do we really think 179 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:49,679 Speaker 1: Kaepernick's gonna come back and win this after he dealt 180 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 1: with arm troubles and he looks like he weighs about 181 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: hunter and forty pounds right now. I don't think you 182 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 1: can count on Kaepernick for anything, but I don't think 183 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: he's been hurt by If we're talking about teams where 184 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 1: every quarterback is gonna get us start by not being 185 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: out there, Kaepernick is not made the same blunders that 186 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: Gabbert has Gabbert for. For all the good stuff he 187 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 1: showed in terms of his mobility and and they like 188 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 1: his speed last season, he he is oh for four 189 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:14,679 Speaker 1: and dump offs to Carlos Hive. I mean, he's just 190 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 1: he can't make the simple elementary throws and a Chip 191 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: Kelly offense would allow the Red, the running game and 192 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 1: the rest of the offense to just do what it does. 193 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's just that by not being on 194 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: the field, you're a quarterback that's helped yourself by not 195 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: being kind of part of the chaos. Up to now, 196 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: he was fine. He was finding this game gather. I mean, 197 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 1: they'll they'll both start eventually. I know you liked uh 198 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:38,719 Speaker 1: Devanti Booker in this game market. I thought, Virgil Green, 199 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 1: I thought that was one real takeaway from this is 200 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 1: that version. This tight end job was wide open going 201 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 1: into camp. Virgil Green has won that job. He looks 202 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: pretty good and they could really use a third receiver 203 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: and he would be that there when we know Kubiak 204 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: likes to use a tight end. Virgil Green. I think 205 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 1: across the way, Vance McDonald is set up for his 206 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 1: career year for sure. I think he's saved gabbered in 207 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:00,599 Speaker 1: the first game and he continues to get opened in 208 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: the last game. If you're going fantasy, you're taking Advance 209 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 1: McDonald over Virgil Green. Let's move on. Let's talk about 210 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 1: Jadeveon Clowney Greg Rosenthal, who looked like the guy that 211 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: the Texans thought they were getting in the first overall 212 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:16,079 Speaker 1: pick a couple of years ago um against the New 213 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: Orleans Saints. I mean, he looked like Jadeveon Clowney. He 214 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,559 Speaker 1: he looked insane, like he just couldn't wait to get 215 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 1: back on the field, because if he watched his first 216 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 1: five snaps, all five of those snaps, he ruined the play. 217 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 1: He made a huge impact on which you just don't 218 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:33,319 Speaker 1: see from defensive players. A lot now he kind of faded. 219 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 1: The biggest credit I could give to Clowney is I 220 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: just want to well, he just makes me want to 221 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: watch every one of his snaps. So even after Tom Savage, 222 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: if he truly exists, entered the game and there wasn't 223 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 1: a lot of starters in there, I just wanted to 224 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 1: keep watching every single Clowney snap just to see what happen. 225 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:51,319 Speaker 1: There's a play where Clowney just absolutely destroyed Zach Street, 226 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 1: just bull rushed him, went right into the quarterback, and 227 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: it made me right away tweet out Gregg's making the 228 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 1: leap because I think that Greg nailed this one. Clowney 229 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 1: looked that that that changes that defense entirely. If he 230 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: gives you that over sixteen games, Street wasn't the only one. 231 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: He bull rushed Andrew's pete too, and then he just 232 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 1: threw Tony Hills like he wasn't even there. He's so 233 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: strong it's it's unbelievable to watch an NFL player make 234 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 1: other hugely strong, three pound men look so weak you 235 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: just toss them aside. You don't see NFL defensive ends 236 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 1: and outside linebackers doing this. But his issue is the 237 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: same as it was if he just has to stay 238 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: on the field. Even in this game, if you watch 239 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: each snap, he was dominant for the first ten snaps 240 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:31,959 Speaker 1: and then he just I think he needs to get 241 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 1: his win back under him. He's not used to being 242 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 1: on the field so much. Hey on the Houston uh 243 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 1: elsewhere on the Houston side of the ball, will Fuller 244 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 1: instant impact guy? Yeah, they're they're rookie wide receivers. Braxton 245 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: Miller and Will Fuller are playing with the first string 246 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 1: offense every down and they both look good. Will Fuller, 247 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: I know people have questions about his hands, but his 248 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: speed is a difference making element. And this I think 249 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:59,079 Speaker 1: this offense went went from one of the slowest in 250 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 1: the NFL to one of the They question for you 251 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 1: because I watched Austwiler in the passing game. Because of him, 252 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 1: You watch Mariota and at least seems so organized and 253 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 1: well studied up in that attack Uswiler to me, still 254 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 1: still feels like he's getting comfortable. How many third downs 255 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 1: is he gonna throw four or five yards short of 256 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: the stick? I mean it's it's over and over with usway. 257 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 1: His numbers are misleading. I agree, there's so many new 258 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 1: starters in this offense. He is taking forever to make 259 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 1: these decisions to go through his reads and and make 260 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: a throw, and that's to be expected. It's a new offense. 261 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 1: I think they might have ten new starters out of eleven. 262 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 1: I mean, that's tough to pull off ten out of eleven. 263 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 1: I think it's possible, or at least some of the 264 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 1: offensive linemen are in different positions. I think, so who 265 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: are across We're the ones that are back across the board. 266 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 1: Skill position. DeAndre Hopkins and Dwayne Brown would seem to 267 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: be too. Yeah. I think it was maybe the other 268 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 1: night because that their offensive line was so banged up. 269 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: Um Braxton Miller though, for a guy who people thought 270 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: might take a little bit, already looks like he's gonna 271 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 1: I want to see more chemistry though between DeAndre Hopkins 272 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 1: and Oswalder at this point. Yeah, definitely let's move on. 273 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 1: Mark Sessler. Dak Prescott continues to steal the show. What 274 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 1: did you see from that kid? Because he made the 275 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 1: Miami defense look like garbage. I love what Greg wrote 276 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: about it in his very good write up of that 277 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 1: game was that you've get Tony Romo back on the field. 278 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 1: This is meant to be the guy that you know, 279 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: turns the whole engine for Dallas completely outshined by Dak Prescott, 280 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 1: and I realized it's the preseason, and I realized, you know, 281 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 1: he's not playing against a full host of starters and 282 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 1: pass rush, you know, scheming stuff. But he has looked 283 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: absolutely unbelievable. He's not afraid to be daring with the ball. 284 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 1: His chemistry with his whiteouts is incredible. He uses his 285 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: feet to score. I mean it's like Dallas was just 286 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 1: piling up yardage and points at will. I don't want 287 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 1: to undersell anything he's done because this is the absolute 288 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 1: best case scenario that anyone could have expected for any 289 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: quarterback in his first two preseas and games. But you 290 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 1: have to give the Cowboys coaching stay of credit. And 291 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 1: I've knocked them for their treatment of backup quarterbacks for years, 292 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 1: but they're coaching him up really smartly. You leave des 293 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: Briant m for the back shoulder throws, you put him 294 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 1: behind a dominant offensive line with Alf Morris running all 295 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 1: over the the Dolphins defense, and then you run play 296 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 1: action when he's got all the time in the world 297 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 1: to look for his wide receivers. They couldn't be coaching 298 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: this guy up any better. But we gotta give him. 299 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 1: We gotta say too. I mean this came out of 300 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 1: you want to talk about revelation. This is Dak Prescott 301 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 1: because we were just talking about after Kellen Moore broke 302 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 1: his collarbone, how the Cowboys blew it and this idea 303 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: that they're gonna have to go trade for somebody, and 304 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 1: Tony Romo's at taking time about now all of a 305 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 1: sudden feels like they have one of the best quarterback 306 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 1: situations in the league. Well, let's we should point out 307 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 1: though that the Cowboys did they know what they had. 308 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: They had this guy behind Kellen Moore on the depth 309 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 1: is wild. We're talking about this guy every week. It's 310 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 1: a revelation to the Cowboys. They tried to trade up 311 00:15:57,280 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 1: for Connor Cook, but the Raiders got Connor ag instead 312 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 1: of him. They tried to trade up for Paxton Lynch. 313 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: That's what happens in the NFL. Sometimes you get lucky. 314 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 1: David Johnson wouldn't be on the Cardinals if they didn't 315 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: get a little what part of it is, but I mean, 316 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 1: it's a preseason. But the accuracy is what's really struck me. 317 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 1: I mean, every ball is in the exact right place, 318 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 1: and yes, he's gotten perfect protection, but you know that's 319 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 1: what That's what Cowboys quarterbacks get these days. That pass 320 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 1: to Bryce Butler where Butler got called for pushing off 321 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 1: was perfect. We had another TV. Uh. This is why 322 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: football preseason scores are misleading, Greg because the Cowboys. But 323 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: if you're a fan of the team, you saw some 324 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 1: good things from Ryan Tannehill. Yeah you did, and that 325 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: was good, and you have to be excited about Kenny Stills. 326 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 1: I think showed up and some some of the passing 327 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 1: game was good Tannehills, but almost every other part of 328 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 1: the Dolphins looked like a tire fire. I mean the 329 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 1: back seven, the linebackers, the secondary, really the offensive line 330 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 1: has a lot of questions. They lost my Pounty to 331 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: another hip injury, which is a huge problem for them. 332 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 1: Arian Foster. I know it's just two carries, but you 333 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 1: don't want to make a judgment off of two carries. 334 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 1: But well, actually for him, but I'm going to anyways, 335 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 1: you go, you wanna you want to see the you 336 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 1: want to see more carries out of him and see 337 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:15,880 Speaker 1: see why. Because one of those carries was was concerning. Uh, 338 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:19,679 Speaker 1: moving on, the New York Jets and Washington Redskins played 339 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 1: some football, and uh, this was a game, at least 340 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 1: from the Redskins side, where you get upset because Matt Jones, 341 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 1: they're running back, suffered a sprained a sea joint, which 342 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 1: is not good if you're running back. West we talked 343 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: about how shoulder injuries can really affect back and the 344 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:38,199 Speaker 1: game we just talked about Alfred Morris, who ripped up 345 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 1: the Dolphins. You wonder if that those two sides should 346 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 1: have ever parted, Alfred Morris and the Redskins and whether 347 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 1: it's possible or reunion can be had. So um Kirk 348 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 1: Cousins didn't play against the Jets. Uh, Colt McCoy did start, 349 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 1: and I guess the first possession Greg we should talk 350 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:54,920 Speaker 1: about because not a lot of good things happened with 351 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:56,920 Speaker 1: Durrell Reeves or with the Jets in this game. But 352 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 1: Durell Reeves did look good in his one series. Yeah, 353 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:00,919 Speaker 1: I don't think they're is a lot. It wasn't a 354 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:02,879 Speaker 1: good game for the Jets, but I didn't take a 355 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 1: ton from it. But all you need to do is 356 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 1: see a healthy derl reeves to put a smile on 357 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 1: your face right coming off the surgery, looking spry, making 358 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 1: some open field tackles, nice interception. There was a lot 359 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 1: of talk about some of his struggles last year and 360 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 1: how much uh should be attributed to getting older and 361 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 1: being a thirty year old cornerback, and how much could 362 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 1: be attributed to the wrist injury that required surgery. Because 363 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:26,119 Speaker 1: his greatest skill set is his ability to rough up 364 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:28,399 Speaker 1: guys at the line of scrimmage and within those five yards, 365 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:30,639 Speaker 1: which you couldn't do last year. I'm wondering if we're 366 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:33,159 Speaker 1: gonna see a nice back bounce back season revers Is 367 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 1: that top five type corner again? Um? And by the way, 368 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 1: your boy, let's take a ride on the Geno Coaster. Hey, 369 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:42,400 Speaker 1: you know, when you're on the Geno Coast, you're gonna 370 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:45,400 Speaker 1: have some ups. The ups are crazy, their wild life 371 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 1: changing ups. You're gonna have some downs. In the preseason. 372 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 1: He's more of a big game player. He can't get 373 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: up when you when he sees Colt McCoy across the 374 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:55,439 Speaker 1: way as a starter, he's not gonna Are we going 375 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 1: to get to the point Craig with Gino Smith where 376 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: you know The number one or two highlight to come 377 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 1: out of a Jets preseason game is Gino Smith throwing 378 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 1: a devastating interception that has the entire meadow Lands on 379 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: its feet just wanting him taken out of the city. 380 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:11,679 Speaker 1: I mean, well, he might be. He might be almost 381 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 1: done with it Jets if he doesn't have a to 382 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 1: be all serious? Is he? If he plays poorly in 383 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 1: the third it's close now, He's right. He could go 384 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:20,640 Speaker 1: from quarterback one to off the roster in a matter 385 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 1: of as he his interception. He threw into triple coverage 386 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 1: with a wide open guy underneath, which, listen, everybody messes 387 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:28,479 Speaker 1: up every everywhere once in a while. But it's kind 388 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:31,160 Speaker 1: of like the Mark Sanchez thing, and a Jet fan 389 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: went from Mark Sanchez to Gino Smith. We're kind of 390 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 1: you don't want to see these guys, You're sick of 391 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 1: them after a while. That's good because it distracts everyone 392 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 1: from the fact that they took a second round quarterback 393 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 1: that hasn't played a preseason snap. He's a project. It's 394 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 1: this weird. He's a project. He's getting red shirted. I 395 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 1: don't have a problem with that. Back to to the 396 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 1: Redskins for a second. You're right, Dan, this their backfield 397 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 1: has should be the worst in the league. It could. 398 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 1: It's definitely the most shallow in the league. Well, Nate Burlison, 399 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 1: for what it's worth, thought that this injury is so 400 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 1: minor it actually almost does him a favor that he 401 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:06,439 Speaker 1: misses the next couple of preseason weeks. It's an a 402 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:08,719 Speaker 1: C joint sprain, which is very minor. They'll keep him 403 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 1: off off his feet and I'll go into the season. 404 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 1: I know you love Matt Jones, but that's not act 405 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: like he had a good rookie year. No, he had 406 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 1: a bad rookie. What I'm saying, if he if if 407 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:20,400 Speaker 1: there's no concern that he's gonna miss week one, which 408 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 1: it sounds like there's not any concern, then but what 409 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 1: he gets banged up and you've got a much heavier 410 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,439 Speaker 1: dose of Chris Thompson than anyone planned for. I mean, 411 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: they don't they just don't have ye don't have a 412 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:33,119 Speaker 1: wide variety of kind of filling prospects. And I can 413 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:36,160 Speaker 1: understand why they came to their end with Alf Morris, 414 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 1: but did they plan this position? Well, I mean, if 415 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:40,959 Speaker 1: you're you've got Kirk Cousins, as your quarterback, you need 416 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 1: to be able to run the ball. How about the 417 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 1: Redskins fan that paid for tickets for this game and 418 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:47,119 Speaker 1: they showed up and all like the nine best players 419 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 1: on the team, we're just sitting out in the second 420 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 1: week of the preseason. They get they got it. Never 421 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: put one of these weeks out or a preseason game, 422 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 1: thank you. You have to though, if you get season tickets, 423 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 1: that's well, you don't have to. Well, all right, that 424 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 1: in season tickets, but except them, right, if you're just 425 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: a normal fan, Hey, it's our chance to go to 426 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 1: a football game. You got I could come up with 427 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:06,360 Speaker 1: a hundred better things to do than a week two 428 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 1: preseason affair. Let's talk about Chris Westling the Arizona Cardinals, 429 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 1: the two thousand fifteen team of around the NFL, who 430 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 1: we're not looking very good on offense against the Chargers 431 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 1: this weekend. Yeah, I would put zero stock in that. 432 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: It's preseason. They're working on some things. We know that, 433 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,919 Speaker 1: we know what their talent level is. Wouldn't you be 434 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 1: shocked if they're not a top five offense issue? Yes, 435 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 1: I mean I would put a little more stock into 436 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 1: just Okay, Brandon Flowers looks better this year after being 437 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 1: very overweight last You want to make Flowers. They have 438 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 1: three cornerbacks now with Casey Hayward who made some nice 439 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,120 Speaker 1: plays in that game, that can play inside and out. 440 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 1: I like that cornerback group. I mean by now in 441 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:51,439 Speaker 1: this time in the preseason, I would get worried about 442 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 1: offenses with a lot of new players and they don't 443 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 1: look to be on the same page, or rookies not 444 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:58,679 Speaker 1: performing up to what you'd want. But the Cardinals are 445 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 1: returning every one of their school players. I don't think 446 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 1: this is a team that we need to be throwing 447 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 1: up flares for and concern. Are the Chargers better on 448 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 1: defense greg than people realize? I believe so. I think 449 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,119 Speaker 1: it's a fun defense, especially if they get Joey Bosa 450 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:14,120 Speaker 1: back in the mix, but you expect they will at 451 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,160 Speaker 1: some point. I think at every level of their defense 452 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:20,159 Speaker 1: they have real playmakers. Casey Casey Hayward was a good signing, 453 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 1: and it allows them to push Flowers into the slot 454 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,199 Speaker 1: after they found out last year he really struggled on 455 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 1: an island outside. Now they're making the leap Guy Paraman, 456 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 1: Denzel Paraman all over the place. He looked good right 457 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 1: out of the gate. Here's a guy that was never 458 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:37,159 Speaker 1: making him the leap, but always in my heart. Jeff Cumberland, Um, 459 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 1: I'm sorry to hear the news, but he suffered a 460 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,439 Speaker 1: torn achilles in this game and his first year with 461 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 1: San Diego done for the year, hanging their cumby, never 462 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 1: give up hashtag Cumby. Moving on, the Panthers and Titans 463 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 1: played football, and oh Mark more to get excited about 464 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 1: with Marcus Mariotta. A. I think Mariotta, you know, he 465 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 1: did some good things in that game. The interception was 466 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 1: a little bit of a four throw. He looked a 467 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 1: little locked in. But I think the story of the 468 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 1: game because if it was week one, we saw that 469 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:06,880 Speaker 1: they can run the ball if they match up well. 470 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 1: In week two, it wasn't so much that I think 471 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 1: they wanted to show that Mariotta could make throws on 472 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 1: passing downs and Taj Sharp eight catches over two weeks, 473 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 1: six in that game in a limited amount of time. 474 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:20,479 Speaker 1: I mean, we're gonna talk about some players that are 475 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 1: underrated fantasy wise. You look at where he is a 476 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 1: DP value. Give me a break, Chris Wesley, I yeah, 477 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,440 Speaker 1: I loved how Taj Sharp looked, but My main takeaway 478 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 1: is last year that Titan set Mariota up for failure 479 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 1: with no running backs to run a play action offense, 480 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 1: boot action offense, smurf wide receivers who couldn't get open. 481 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 1: Now you look at the team, they're running backs from 482 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 1: last year will not be involved. Their wide receivers from 483 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 1: last year basically will not be involved. Their offensive line 484 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: is upgraded. They're setting him up for success. Now, despite 485 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 1: all the laughter and snark at Mike Malarkey's expense they were, 486 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 1: they're running a good system for developing a quarterback and 487 00:23:57,800 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 1: surrounding him with all the town he needs to be success. 488 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 1: Think it's also a major upgrade from Rust and Webster 489 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 1: to John Robinson because in a very quick amount of time, 490 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,400 Speaker 1: John Robinson has changed the identity of the team, and 491 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,639 Speaker 1: it's through actually getting better players for this kind of 492 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,880 Speaker 1: drifting draft. A high wide receiver, none of them pan out. 493 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 1: They found one right away and they've redone. The entire 494 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 1: way you think about the Titans sounds like the team 495 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 1: of a t West to me, Greg, the team of 496 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 1: West thel This is not This reputation has not been earned. 497 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 1: You guys railroaded me into the Chargers two years ago, 498 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 1: and then last year you all wanted the forty Niners 499 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:41,880 Speaker 1: after week one, so you can fake me. Niners would 500 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 1: have been like fifth on my list, but well, you 501 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:45,879 Speaker 1: voted for him. Let's let's go back to the tape 502 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:50,640 Speaker 1: on that. Please do, please do, random, will you find 503 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 1: that tape for us? Listen, this is what I'll probably doing. 504 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: I'll probably be doing because I know what the kissing 505 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 1: cousins are doing here. Greg will probably get on board. 506 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 1: I will do the West move. I will go along 507 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 1: with it if we want to go with the Titans. 508 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,880 Speaker 1: But if this goes up in flames, we've got I'm 509 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: gonna have a lot of fun. Well, a couple of 510 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 1: weeks so far, I mean we got a couple of 511 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 1: weeks before we have to say anything, right, Yes, the 512 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:14,239 Speaker 1: team of around the NFL will be selected at some 513 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 1: point by the end of September. I'd say any any 514 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,360 Speaker 1: later than that. Derrick Henry helps your chances. He looks 515 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,679 Speaker 1: fun to watch. I really think he's gonna end up 516 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 1: not fun to watch on this team. De Marco Murray, 517 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:25,879 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna end up cutting into De Marco 518 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 1: more Murray more than people. Absolutely what was wrong with 519 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 1: DeMarco Murray. I mean, it wasn't the Week one game, 520 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:32,679 Speaker 1: but it's fun. I guess I want to see the 521 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 1: regular season. The Week one game, he had one run 522 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 1: that I think a lot of running backs would have 523 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 1: made that run. Uh, So I want to see him 524 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:40,199 Speaker 1: in regular season. Actually, like all these guys, I mean, 525 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,199 Speaker 1: it hurts to me their team of atale case that 526 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 1: Zach Mettenberger uh isn't there. But maybe maybe he'll be 527 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,199 Speaker 1: back because he might not even make the Chargers uh 528 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 1: matten Burgers be playing in a different league. Super Bowl 529 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,919 Speaker 1: twenty five rematch in Orchard Park, the Giants and Bills. 530 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 1: The Giants get shut out. Uh, would you never? You know, listen, 531 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 1: nobody cares about the results, but you just don't want 532 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,439 Speaker 1: to be shut out in a preseason game because that 533 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 1: means you you failed comprehensively on every level of your roster. 534 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:12,400 Speaker 1: Get it together, uh, Ben McAdoo. But uh, Tyrod Taylor, 535 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,160 Speaker 1: who you know, must be feeling good about himself right now. 536 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 1: The confidence high westling as he continues to look good 537 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 1: like a guy that you could build a team around. 538 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor does look good. That is one of my 539 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 1: main takeaways from the preseason and then the other side 540 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 1: of the ball. You know, I'm really enjoying these Bucky 541 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: Brooks preseason grades. Whenever you see grades, you'll see these 542 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,639 Speaker 1: guys really tepid. Oh. I can't give anyone below a 543 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 1: C minus. That's as low as they go. Bucky Brooks 544 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 1: has thrown out f's for the Giants. Backup quarterback school 545 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 1: are abysmal, Massive and Logan Thomas. They're terrible and they 546 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 1: need a backup quarterback for for sixteen. Rex Ryan went 547 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 1: into this preseason trying to send a message. If you 548 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 1: watch his how his defense has played the last couple 549 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 1: of weeks. They have played aggressive like it's the regular season. 550 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 1: They've played really well. I don't know how much to 551 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 1: put in it or not. Maybe they're just fired up. 552 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 1: He does seem to have found a couple of rookies. 553 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:04,399 Speaker 1: We've killed him for all the rookies. He's lost a 554 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:09,880 Speaker 1: Dolphus Washington and uh, who's the cornerback Seymour? Who now 555 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 1: is in that mix? That's a nice cornerback group. I mean, 556 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 1: I don't know. Crazier things have happened. Tyrod Taylor through 557 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 1: and still being good. He threw it was a fifty 558 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 1: nine yard connection and the arm strength and just his 559 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 1: ability on that throw. They found a quarterback and it's 560 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,920 Speaker 1: been a long time. His deep ball was really impressive 561 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,400 Speaker 1: last year. That was never the issue. It's what can 562 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 1: you do over the middle of the defense? I think 563 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,399 Speaker 1: the Giants and McAdoo said it after the game. People 564 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 1: have been quite he said, everyone's been asking me about 565 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 1: the right side of our offensive line. Isn't that a 566 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 1: big problem? Because on paper it looks it looks pretty 567 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: terrible and he and he went out of his way 568 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 1: to say, well, how about the left side of our 569 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 1: offensive line. That's not looking too good either. He's like 570 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:52,440 Speaker 1: Eric Flowers their their first round that you want to 571 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,640 Speaker 1: that point one point nine yards per carry on seventeen 572 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 1: carries for the Giants. They're they're looking at the Redskins 573 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,399 Speaker 1: and be like, hey, we can match they're backf It 574 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 1: was an issue last year. By the way, is Bucky 575 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 1: handing out any gentleman's f's. What's a gentleman's f D 576 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:11,919 Speaker 1: minus baby? Why is that a gentleman that you know? 577 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,119 Speaker 1: A nice gentleman way to give someone an F is 578 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 1: just to give him a D. Mind that is a 579 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,360 Speaker 1: nice way of doing that. Sometimes you need to wake 580 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 1: up call with a full f fair fair moving on 581 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:25,640 Speaker 1: Baltimore in Indianapolis. Andrew Luck. Oh yeah, who wants stuck 582 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 1: on Andrew Luck? Who you know, he didn't tear it up, 583 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 1: but uh oh and I do love this new this 584 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 1: thing on NFL dot com where they're charting or the 585 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 1: they're offering video recaps of every single throw. I watched 586 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 1: that this morning. Uh and uh you can also check 587 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 1: out the highlights of every Cairo Santos kick that's available 588 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 1: that's available on NFL dot com right now. Who hasn't 589 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 1: already done that? All three of his field goals? There 590 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 1: you go, besides a tremendous blitz pick up by Frank Gore. Uh. 591 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal, Andrew Luck was looking pretty good. He was 592 00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 1: looking good. He was looking great. I know, he got 593 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 1: very fired up. He just looked like Andrew Luck, which 594 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 1: is the most important thing. That his arm looked good. 595 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 1: Yeah you're laughing about just throw out the Greg for 596 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 1: every game when I try to throw it to you guys, 597 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 1: nobody took it. Just now, that's all right? Uh, Andrew Luck, 598 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 1: I thought compared to last year, and he was so 599 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 1: frenetic in the pocket, and he wasn't making all the 600 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 1: throws he made in the past. In this game, he 601 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 1: was way more under control. He looked sharp was the 602 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 1: word I would use. He was under control. And then 603 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 1: the sideline out that he threw, I'm not sure he 604 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 1: makes that pass right, that was the one. Yeah, and 605 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 1: in Dorsets making a few more routes than he was 606 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 1: running last. They're gonna need to score points though this defense. 607 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 1: I mean, it's all right, we're two weeks in, but 608 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 1: watching the Ravens make plays down field and it was 609 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 1: Chuck Fagano came out today and said the secondary a 610 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 1: little scary, and he's not wrong. I mean, on the 611 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 1: first touch tomar can touchdown, there's two Cults defensive backs 612 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 1: just colliding with each other and he's completely left alone 613 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 1: for the catch. I mean, gotta get your But they're 614 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,239 Speaker 1: missing there's they're missing their two starters, they're missing their 615 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 1: first right, so they're they're they're a bad defense. I 616 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 1: think they're one of the most talent poor defenses. And 617 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:11,959 Speaker 1: they're injured. So we thought the front seven was going 618 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 1: to be their biggest issue. Where's the pass rush? And 619 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 1: now they can't cover anyone either. Hey, the Terence West 620 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 1: hype trains rolling pretty hard this summer. But why is 621 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 1: he third on their depth chart in uh Baltimore right now? 622 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 1: I think that's respect out of Justin for towards Justin 623 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 1: for set, like the one thing about Terence West, and 624 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 1: you know West charts not about respect or anything. I 625 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 1: think with for Set that it very much is. That 626 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 1: would be my guest. But I don't think there's any 627 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 1: guarantee that he's higher in week one. I don't think 628 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 1: anyone knows what they're gonna do. Kenneth Dixon, I think 629 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 1: I know is the numbers, and I think it looks 630 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 1: great too. They have four guys who are kind of 631 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 1: close in value. I would say West is second on 632 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 1: the depth chart for early down runs and then Buck 633 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 1: Allen is the passing down back. I think that's the 634 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 1: way it's going in Baltimore. He's gonna see the field. 635 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 1: I mean, Sarace Wentz to me looks like a different 636 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 1: human being, like he went on like Craig's list and 637 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 1: found someone else to be him and be faster and 638 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 1: more plugged in than him, because it does not physically 639 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 1: look like the human being and was on the Cleveland 640 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 1: Browns at all. It's possible. I'm saying it's right. I'm 641 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 1: looking into this because it seems not just possible. What 642 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 1: if you tried to get someone off at craigslisting you 643 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 1: ended up getting Trent Richardson. Well, you probably don't have 644 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 1: a lot to pick from. But I watched a Forensic 645 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 1: files yesterday where they they iced some dude that looked 646 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 1: like another dude. They who's they these two guys who 647 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 1: it's a conspiracy for murder? And then uh got the 648 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 1: life insurance money of the guy that actually survived, faked 649 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 1: his own death, and then they went off to Rio together. 650 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 1: That's a great plan. I don't know that ties into 651 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 1: the Terence West thing at all, but so you think 652 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 1: the old Terence West might be might be living somewhere. Okay, 653 00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 1: now let's pace it together. Terrence West found a guy 654 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 1: that a much better football player, and uh, the deal 655 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 1: was worked out. I'll let you be an NFL star. 656 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 1: Uh the catches when you signed the big contract. I 657 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 1: get the contract. See you, I'm going to Fiji. This 658 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 1: is Baltimore. It sounds like an episode of the Wire. Yeah, 659 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 1: maybe maybe I have been a completely different version of 660 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal for nine months now, you guys didn't even 661 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 1: know that we know you. We've been calling you the 662 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 1: new Greg, the new Greg Party, Greg Party, Greg who 663 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 1: sits near us again by the way, in another Sorg 664 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 1: in the old news room. For the forty seven time 665 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 1: in the past five years, we have moved all our seats. 666 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 1: Greg back with us, back back with the crew. It's nice, 667 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 1: it's nice to have you back. Welcome back, Greg, Thank you. 668 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 1: Moving on the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in Jacksonville Jaguars battle 669 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 1: for Florida. That's what they're calling it across the universe. Uh, 670 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 1: Blake Bortles looks good, His offensive line looks good. Everything 671 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 1: about the Jacksonville Jaguars looks great. Right West, I think 672 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 1: he looks He looks more mature and more at ease 673 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 1: running every part of this offense this year, and I 674 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 1: think the Jaguars offense is gonna be lights out this year. 675 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 1: They look phenomenal. I mean, Bordos has held that title 676 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 1: of the most wow plays per snap for me for 677 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 1: quarterbacks for the last certainly the last year, and this 678 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 1: preseason game was a good example. I mean, his best 679 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 1: throw might have been one that was incomplete on the sidelines. 680 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 1: They ruled out of bounds. I believe and he he's insane. 681 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 1: It's weird you're talking about records. They're oh and two. 682 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 1: And I think they've been the most impressive team in 683 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 1: the preseason because they've had the most encouraging things. Jalen 684 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 1: Ramsey looks fully healthy and good, said, dark Marks looks 685 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 1: fully healthy and good. The offense, the starting offense has, 686 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 1: you know, is healthy and loaded. Chris Chris Ivory was 687 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 1: one of the best free agent pickups because yelled in 688 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 1: could not do it alone. But the way that they're 689 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 1: using yelled in two and when they get into kind 690 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 1: of a flow with play calling and they set it 691 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 1: up with their passing games, suddenly Chris Ivey's running over 692 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 1: you for eighteen yards. There's not a weak spot here 693 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 1: if they can't have a newcomer come in and steal 694 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 1: a show, as that woman, as that fine woman pointed out, 695 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 1: she's saying Chris Ivory can't just come in and steal 696 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 1: the show. That's why they're splitting the work that way. Yeah, 697 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 1: we say not to get too carried away for the preseason, 698 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 1: but we always do. No, we do, and ill before 699 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,440 Speaker 1: we look at again, like I'm considering I was. I 700 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 1: was thinking I'm picking the Colts all year, and now 701 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,359 Speaker 1: I'm thinking, why was I picking the Colts. I'm gonna 702 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,880 Speaker 1: pick the Jaggar and they're trying to be cute and 703 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 1: they're gonna split Chris Ivey's reps in a best case scenary. 704 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 1: T J yelled and he'll still wear down in November 705 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 1: that he's gonna be awesome though for two months, enjoy 706 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,160 Speaker 1: it. It It is true. There's like preseason I'm gonna run 707 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,319 Speaker 1: with my pants on fire, Chris Ivory, and then there's 708 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,320 Speaker 1: late November. You have a podcast where were you review 709 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 1: every preseason game. You don't have a choice but to 710 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 1: overrate the alright, go ahead, Greg, answer to that? What 711 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 1: what's just? That? Got nothing? And poor Roberto Guayo not 712 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,359 Speaker 1: own poor I got billions of dollars in a second 713 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 1: round draft slot. I feel for because it's not his 714 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:02,759 Speaker 1: fault that that he went in the second round. And 715 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:04,840 Speaker 1: now he obviously it's in his head a little bit. 716 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 1: He's missed I think three kicks in two games. Uh, 717 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:09,839 Speaker 1: and all three of those are shorter than any kick 718 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,400 Speaker 1: he missed in college. Yeah, I believe and it's just 719 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:17,160 Speaker 1: two things. It again reminds you there there's no real 720 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 1: automatic kicker. A lot of that is a mental game. 721 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,759 Speaker 1: And to use a second round pick, maybe he does 722 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:25,839 Speaker 1: straighten himself out as the best kicker in the league 723 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 1: or is a Pro Bowl level kicker for a decade, 724 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,719 Speaker 1: but that's the only way that pick makes sense. He 725 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 1: needs to be a star in the star for many years. 726 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 1: I have a recommendation for our listeners. The best thing 727 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 1: I've ever read on kickers is a Michael Lewis article 728 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 1: from The New York Times. It's called The Kick Is Up, 729 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:45,320 Speaker 1: and it's a career killer, and it's about the mental 730 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,840 Speaker 1: rigors of being a kicker in the NFL and exactly 731 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:52,600 Speaker 1: what you're talking about, yips. It's a fantastic article. It's 732 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,960 Speaker 1: a scary gig. Well, don't you think you're already a 733 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 1: person that is seen as an outsider not really part 734 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,719 Speaker 1: of the team a lot of times unless you kind 735 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,400 Speaker 1: of have a different, quirky kicker personality. And then you 736 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,880 Speaker 1: get off to a start where everyone's already saying, WHOA, 737 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,520 Speaker 1: this team overvalued you. Picking you with a second round pick, 738 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 1: could have got it to defensive tackle someone else and 739 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,080 Speaker 1: then you start missing kicks all over the place. Talk 740 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 1: about I mean, you're in your own little alien world 741 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,280 Speaker 1: trying to figure out how to you know, redeem yourself. 742 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,840 Speaker 1: The same thing as being like in an official or 743 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 1: referee or an umpire. You don't get noticed unless you 744 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,280 Speaker 1: suck at your job. Very few guys get really praise 745 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:27,920 Speaker 1: unless you're Gregg the Legs Airline well a lot of 746 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 1: praise and Adam Vinitary is one of the mentally toughest 747 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 1: kickers in the history of the league, which is why 748 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,319 Speaker 1: he's been around for twenty years. And we'll be a 749 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame candidate, but it's he was a great 750 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:40,160 Speaker 1: high school athlete, so I'm not diminishing his talent, but 751 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:43,200 Speaker 1: his mental strength is what has set him apart. And 752 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,279 Speaker 1: he's a good example. We go to the Super Bowl 753 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:48,280 Speaker 1: against the Panthers. He missed a kick, got another kick blocked, 754 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 1: and the game on the line. What does he do, 755 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 1: Greg He hits it. He also hits it when Bill 756 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,319 Speaker 1: Parcelves tells him, Uh, you know, if you don't, if 757 00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,040 Speaker 1: you don't hit some kicks this next week, you're gonna 758 00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,279 Speaker 1: get cut. No, no, if you don't make this kick, 759 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:03,040 Speaker 1: was right, before it was his rookie season only, yeah 760 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,440 Speaker 1: and Parcels and he already missed like two short kicks 761 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,960 Speaker 1: and Parcels said, hey, kid, you missed his kick. You're 762 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 1: asked done. That's why you don't spend a second round 763 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,239 Speaker 1: pick on a kick. It's funny because like Parcels gets 764 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,680 Speaker 1: to take credit in some way for that. Now that's 765 00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,640 Speaker 1: part of this. It's like he could have easily just 766 00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,319 Speaker 1: missed the kick and then Parcels would be stupid. Well 767 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,160 Speaker 1: that's not how it works, you know. But yeah, we 768 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,759 Speaker 1: give Parcels because he did plenty of other things. But 769 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:30,479 Speaker 1: that's not like Parcels the genius, but it does speak 770 00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:34,759 Speaker 1: to the toughness of your boy. Um. And finally the 771 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,759 Speaker 1: Chiefs and l A Rams and another packed house at 772 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:41,479 Speaker 1: the coliseum. Two fumbles in the first two possessions mark 773 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:45,360 Speaker 1: for uh Jared Goff. Uh. He is not going to 774 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,200 Speaker 1: start in week one, is he? I mean, the second 775 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:50,439 Speaker 1: fumble was a little bit strange, but the first one 776 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 1: was a flat out turnover. And he does not look 777 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:56,000 Speaker 1: ready to me at all. He still makes the occasional 778 00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,560 Speaker 1: throw like he did in week one where you're thinking, yes, 779 00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,120 Speaker 1: he certainly he's going to be there at some point. 780 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,880 Speaker 1: But you know, the Rams, they saw this a lot 781 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:07,200 Speaker 1: sooner than anyone else did, and they seem prime to 782 00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:08,759 Speaker 1: have him sit for a bit. And I have no 783 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:12,200 Speaker 1: problem with that based on what we've seen. Well, I 784 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:14,600 Speaker 1: I was working with Kevin Patrick Saturday night and he 785 00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,400 Speaker 1: was charged with watching this game. And afterwards, you know, 786 00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,239 Speaker 1: we have to write an article on Jared Goff because 787 00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,160 Speaker 1: he's the number one overall pick. How did he play? 788 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,600 Speaker 1: And Patrick said, how many different words can you use 789 00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 1: to say one sentence? He's not ready. He's got the 790 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,719 Speaker 1: physical gifts, but he's just not ready. I mean, his 791 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:33,120 Speaker 1: first four drives, third team plays twenty four yards, he's 792 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,600 Speaker 1: not moving the ball. We're watching other rookies and they're 793 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,120 Speaker 1: in a better situation than Jared Goff is moved the 794 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:39,719 Speaker 1: ball up and down the and then he does do 795 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,080 Speaker 1: it when he gets in with the deep reserves against 796 00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,719 Speaker 1: the deep reserves. That's been the case in both of 797 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,879 Speaker 1: these games where he's finished off better than he's uh 798 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,719 Speaker 1: not in both of these games, rather in this game, Um, 799 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,439 Speaker 1: and he's the guy I'd be more concerned in both 800 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,000 Speaker 1: games when he hasn't gotten them lined up for the scrimmage. 801 00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,239 Speaker 1: A couple of times. He's taken delay at games in 802 00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,360 Speaker 1: both of those, and I think that's Kevin's point that 803 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:01,920 Speaker 1: he's just I mean, it's not a reason to patting it. 804 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,840 Speaker 1: Just you, Okay, we get it. Now, he needs time. 805 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:08,239 Speaker 1: The Chief's offense looked much more effective to me. He's 806 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,960 Speaker 1: Kingdom scored three touchdowns and four drives for what it's worked. 807 00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:13,640 Speaker 1: But he's given them every reason to start him, which 808 00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:14,960 Speaker 1: is nice of it. I mean, he made it. Have 809 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:18,759 Speaker 1: confidence in him. Do you want to Greg one more time? 810 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,480 Speaker 1: Act out the discussion between coach and center about how 811 00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:24,680 Speaker 1: to take a snap properly in the NFL. I mean, 812 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:29,839 Speaker 1: no one's asked for it again, but I'll do it anyways. Alright, Okay, Hey, 813 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:33,000 Speaker 1: he's gonna stick his nut. Go on, You're okay, That's 814 00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,520 Speaker 1: what I told him. Get it in there, let him 815 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,000 Speaker 1: feel it that that's a little deep, give him some 816 00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:44,920 Speaker 1: more pressure. That was unsettling, I added the appart the Greg. 817 00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:48,200 Speaker 1: The Greg role play there for some reason unsettled me. Well, 818 00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,440 Speaker 1: it's because I get really deep into the character. I 819 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,280 Speaker 1: got into his motivation, how he was, how he was feeling. 820 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,880 Speaker 1: Greg's definitely method yeah. Um, all right, it is time 821 00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:06,520 Speaker 1: to begin the third annual Around the NFL Podcast, and 822 00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,000 Speaker 1: today we will be talking about In the first of 823 00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:13,400 Speaker 1: three parts, we will talk about a little bit of 824 00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,920 Speaker 1: a seg Well, let me start this way first. I 825 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:19,480 Speaker 1: want to I want to introduce everybody. Alright, First up, 826 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:27,240 Speaker 1: do we have an applause drop or anything like that? Okay, alright, 827 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:28,880 Speaker 1: first I didn't say to use it yet, I was 828 00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:32,040 Speaker 1: just asking for was I just figured it? What use it? Then? 829 00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,640 Speaker 1: Tell you? Uh, Sydney's like, I don't even want to 830 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:36,160 Speaker 1: get back in that chair. The look of fear in 831 00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,640 Speaker 1: your eyes right now to my right, now, Sydney can 832 00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:41,840 Speaker 1: handle it. To my right is Greg Rosenthal, who has 833 00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:45,640 Speaker 1: run Around the NFL. Since this is an old bio copy, 834 00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:48,440 Speaker 1: you don't run the show anymore. I don't think we've 835 00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,080 Speaker 1: changed that. And Greg Rosenthal used to run the Around 836 00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:54,960 Speaker 1: the NFL team, uh, starting in two thousand thirteen, including 837 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,440 Speaker 1: his role on the Around the NFL podcast. Do you 838 00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,960 Speaker 1: have a role? I think that's true. He previously spent 839 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:03,839 Speaker 1: nine years covering the NFL for NBC Sports, Rodal World 840 00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:07,920 Speaker 1: dot Com and Pro Football dot Com. Ladies and Gentlemen, 841 00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:16,680 Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal, Thank you to my left. Here's a man 842 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,480 Speaker 1: that joint NFL media two thousand thirteen. He covered the 843 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,000 Speaker 1: league for six seasons as a writer for NBC Sports 844 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,919 Speaker 1: dot Com and a senior NFL editor at Rhoda World 845 00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:31,640 Speaker 1: dot Com. Senior editor Man Chris Wesley. Here's here's the 846 00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:35,279 Speaker 1: full truth. I gave myself that title senior football editor. 847 00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:37,919 Speaker 1: No one ever gave it to me. I was just like, oh, yeah, 848 00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,839 Speaker 1: that's what I am. Good nugget. And then finally Marks here, 849 00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:45,840 Speaker 1: I you know what I cannot wait for next Monday. 850 00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:49,200 Speaker 1: This is the most absurd thing I've ever seen. I'll 851 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:54,520 Speaker 1: play along with your little charade. What to listen? He 852 00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:56,239 Speaker 1: could have given you the applause drop there. I didn't 853 00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,040 Speaker 1: tell him that. I guarantee if I were to go 854 00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:01,280 Speaker 1: on your instant messaging candidate, it's please don't play applause 855 00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:05,160 Speaker 1: for when I give Mark one second intro. Actually it 856 00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,680 Speaker 1: wasn't to be. This is perfect. It just strokes Gregg's 857 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,719 Speaker 1: ego and more strokes west is to keep him in 858 00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:14,000 Speaker 1: a good mood, keep it going. That actually is good 859 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:17,239 Speaker 1: instincts from Irish because I did not tell I don't 860 00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,920 Speaker 1: believe a word coming out of Alan's mouth anymore. I 861 00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,440 Speaker 1: like this because sometimes you know, when Mark gets worked 862 00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,440 Speaker 1: up and I almost feel like, um, you know, he 863 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,120 Speaker 1: adds a little extra for the show. You know, it's showtime, 864 00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,040 Speaker 1: but I feel like this one he's under playing how 865 00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,879 Speaker 1: much he hates it. Uh. You know, listen, we've got 866 00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:35,440 Speaker 1: about You've got the rest of this show another thirty minutes, 867 00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:37,719 Speaker 1: five minutes, two more shows to get through. Not sure 868 00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:39,680 Speaker 1: I'll be there for all of them. I don't care. 869 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,960 Speaker 1: Here we go, all right, So today we're going to 870 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:48,040 Speaker 1: talk about the segment will be called a DP insanity. 871 00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,839 Speaker 1: I don't know sound good. You know there's a lot 872 00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,759 Speaker 1: of fantasy podcasts out there. Um, we're trying to do 873 00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:58,279 Speaker 1: something different. So I rhymed a DP and insanity, So 874 00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,760 Speaker 1: right off the top, I feel like we're a different space. 875 00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:03,040 Speaker 1: I don't see anyone else doing that. And by the way, 876 00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:06,560 Speaker 1: there's this website actually has an entire and many people 877 00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:11,400 Speaker 1: UH listen to their podcast and read their content. The 878 00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:14,879 Speaker 1: NFL dot Com Fantasy Team does great work, so make 879 00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:18,640 Speaker 1: sure you check them out. Um a star studded uh 880 00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:22,080 Speaker 1: team of men. A lot of good hair involved there 881 00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:26,920 Speaker 1: between Harmon and franchise and gel gel Hard is like 882 00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:30,239 Speaker 1: the father figure looking over the group in a way, 883 00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:33,080 Speaker 1: even though he's younger, you seem like he's almost like 884 00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,839 Speaker 1: the dad trying to keep everybody in line. Uh. And 885 00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,920 Speaker 1: then there's Marcus and Marcus you know, he's smooth and 886 00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:42,920 Speaker 1: people like Marcus. Uh. Adam ranks there and he's kind 887 00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:45,840 Speaker 1: of on his own corner in a way. Uh. You know, 888 00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:48,640 Speaker 1: he's talking, he's talking football, but he's also talking wrestling, 889 00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:52,880 Speaker 1: so he merges those two worlds. And of course James 890 00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,960 Speaker 1: co who does a great job hosting both the podcasts 891 00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:58,680 Speaker 1: in the television. Oh, don't forget to Michael Fabriano, Hall 892 00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:00,839 Speaker 1: of Famer, Hall of Famer, Michael five. You know, I'm 893 00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:04,920 Speaker 1: just gonna keep talking lower. Did I miss anybody? No, 894 00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,440 Speaker 1: but your low talk gave it some gravitass. Okay, I'll 895 00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,759 Speaker 1: work on my low talk. Um, maybe get it more 896 00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,000 Speaker 1: involved anyway, So check out all the work those guys do. 897 00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,520 Speaker 1: But right now, when I got the guys that built 898 00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:16,560 Speaker 1: Rotor World brick by brick, and you can see the 899 00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:20,080 Speaker 1: callouses on Greg's hands from it. Um, we're gonna talk 900 00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:23,400 Speaker 1: about some a DP insanity. Uh. And we're gonna focus 901 00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,560 Speaker 1: on running backs and wide receivers right now, and uh, 902 00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:31,320 Speaker 1: why don't we start? And um we're also yes, we 903 00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:34,120 Speaker 1: we had some fun, but we will be heading very 904 00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:37,279 Speaker 1: soon onto the fantasy corner Mark Sessler's fantasy corner and 905 00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:40,319 Speaker 1: it's a very edgy place over there. So um, but 906 00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,120 Speaker 1: right now, we'll start with Greg and West. Greg, we'll 907 00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:46,520 Speaker 1: start with you here. Who is on your well, you 908 00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:49,520 Speaker 1: take it wherever you want some a DP insanity. Well, 909 00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:51,520 Speaker 1: I think we should go over guys who are underrated 910 00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:55,600 Speaker 1: and overrated. All right, let's start with somebody that is underrated, underrated? 911 00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,560 Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna start. How about with the player 912 00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:01,600 Speaker 1: towards the top, Devanta Freeman. We mentioned him earlier in 913 00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:03,600 Speaker 1: the off season. This was my big one too. And 914 00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:05,719 Speaker 1: if you're going in the first two rounds, I'm talking 915 00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:09,560 Speaker 1: that that premium level running back DeVante Freeman is one 916 00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:11,319 Speaker 1: of the few guys up there I'd rather have than 917 00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:14,279 Speaker 1: a lot of these top receivers who are safer safer beds. 918 00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:18,560 Speaker 1: How is this boggles my mind? Lamar Miller a DP 919 00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,319 Speaker 1: higher than DeVonta Freeman, and DeVonta Freeman is only a 920 00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:24,040 Speaker 1: few places above mark Ingram who has never had a 921 00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:27,320 Speaker 1: thousand yards season, never had ten touchdowns in a season. 922 00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:32,759 Speaker 1: DeVonta Freeman dred yards thereabouts last year's seventy three receptions, 923 00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:36,800 Speaker 1: number one fantasy back and is awesome in the red zone. 924 00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:38,640 Speaker 1: He is one of the best red zone running backs 925 00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:41,160 Speaker 1: there is as a receiver and a running back. There's 926 00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:44,120 Speaker 1: no downside to DeVonta Freeman. Can I throw? And I'm 927 00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:47,440 Speaker 1: just a regular dude. I'm no expert. You know I didn't. 928 00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:51,000 Speaker 1: I didn't work in HTML and physical brick to build 929 00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:54,360 Speaker 1: a fantasy giant. But I will say two things. DeVante 930 00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,239 Speaker 1: Freeman kind of a little bit of a twel of 931 00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:59,600 Speaker 1: two seasons right production wise last season, so maybe some 932 00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:02,040 Speaker 1: people were spook by a slower second half. By the way, 933 00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:05,160 Speaker 1: most players in the NFL have a tale of two seasons. Well, 934 00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:07,759 Speaker 1: his was maybe more exaggerated than others. And then a 935 00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,359 Speaker 1: Lamar Miller. The reason why Lamar Miller is going before 936 00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:12,719 Speaker 1: him because sometimes you gotta look into the future and 937 00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,440 Speaker 1: see the guy that's going to make that leap. Oh 938 00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:19,879 Speaker 1: superstar status, here we come. Lamar Miller seventeen hundred total 939 00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:21,920 Speaker 1: yards in twelve touch I looked into the future and 940 00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:24,279 Speaker 1: saw running back who's never been a workhorse, and they 941 00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:27,240 Speaker 1: pound him into the ground and he's injured by October. 942 00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,960 Speaker 1: I like Lamar Miller. I like Atlanta's running game better, 943 00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:32,080 Speaker 1: and the fact that they're going to be in a 944 00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:34,440 Speaker 1: second year with that zone scheme usually takes a minute 945 00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:36,600 Speaker 1: to to get that up and running as effective as 946 00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:39,520 Speaker 1: it was last year. Everyone's worried about Tevin Coleman. It's like, 947 00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:42,759 Speaker 1: just don't worry about the off season. You know, Rhoda 948 00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:44,680 Speaker 1: World is great. But one of the things I found 949 00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:47,480 Speaker 1: at road where people overrated some of our blurbs sometimes 950 00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:49,839 Speaker 1: that you know, the coaches say Tevin Coleman is gonna 951 00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:51,440 Speaker 1: be in the mixed trust. Who is a better player? 952 00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:53,759 Speaker 1: By the way, that same coach in the same paragraph 953 00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:56,440 Speaker 1: said he expects a better season. How to DeVonta Freeman 954 00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:58,560 Speaker 1: this year than last year? West Give us somebody else 955 00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:03,879 Speaker 1: that's underrated? Uh. Where Carlos Hide is on this a DP. 956 00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:10,160 Speaker 1: I believe he is early fourth round. Behind DeMarco Murray, 957 00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:13,839 Speaker 1: who's got a major Derrick Henry problem. Behind Lettavius Murray 958 00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:17,680 Speaker 1: who's just not very good. Behind Thomas Rowles, who I 959 00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:21,319 Speaker 1: love but has a Christen Michael problem. I would take 960 00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:24,720 Speaker 1: Carlos Hide a full round higher than early fourth round. 961 00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:26,320 Speaker 1: I think part of that I had Hide on the 962 00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:28,800 Speaker 1: low list too. Am I allowed to say something here? Absolutely? 963 00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:30,319 Speaker 1: Do we want to go to the corner? Let's go 964 00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:32,480 Speaker 1: to it? Well, but my corner issue is completely different. 965 00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:34,480 Speaker 1: You are you came over here? You know what. I'll 966 00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:38,360 Speaker 1: retract my comment. Are you on the corner or not? 967 00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:41,560 Speaker 1: Right now? Okay, not on the corner ahead? No, I 968 00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:43,560 Speaker 1: guess I think part of it is this, Some of 969 00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:47,040 Speaker 1: this a d P business has got to be behind 970 00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:50,439 Speaker 1: the times because Kristen Michael's sitting down at number forty five, 971 00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:54,560 Speaker 1: well out of running backs. But we're taking the data 972 00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:57,280 Speaker 1: from actually the last few days. And I was commenting 973 00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,400 Speaker 1: to west i Bet two weeks ago. At this time 974 00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:01,560 Speaker 1: he wasn't even on the board. So to them, it's 975 00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:03,600 Speaker 1: a tenth round pick. They see him as a as 976 00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:05,759 Speaker 1: a backup, uh, and that's why he's in the I 977 00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:08,080 Speaker 1: don't think it's behind the times. A Hide, though, to me, 978 00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:11,759 Speaker 1: seems low also because if people are watching preseason games 979 00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:13,920 Speaker 1: and you're watching the Niners offense, there's not a lot 980 00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:15,960 Speaker 1: to like. But Hide is gonna get a ton of 981 00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:18,200 Speaker 1: touches and if Gabbert ever can connect with him in 982 00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,680 Speaker 1: the passing game, he might cat some passes to Alright, 983 00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:23,919 Speaker 1: how about an overrated running back, greg uh in terms 984 00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:28,880 Speaker 1: of ADP, Well, Dion Lewis was overrated before he got injured. 985 00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:31,880 Speaker 1: We didn't have time to mention his injury, you know, 986 00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:33,560 Speaker 1: in the news. But he's gonna be out for a while. 987 00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:35,000 Speaker 1: So don't draft the on Louis. It was a little 988 00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:38,080 Speaker 1: crazy that getting taken in the fifth round anyways, And 989 00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:40,319 Speaker 1: don't draft his backup, James White. I think everyone will 990 00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:42,240 Speaker 1: just kind of plug James White in there, and here's 991 00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:44,840 Speaker 1: a fun sleeper. I just would stay away from it. 992 00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:49,160 Speaker 1: They're they're gonna drive you crazy. That's far West. Jeremy Langford, 993 00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:54,120 Speaker 1: who got a lot of big publicity. He's four fourth round, 994 00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:57,320 Speaker 1: ninth pick in this a DP, so late fourth round. 995 00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:00,000 Speaker 1: You're drafting him as a running back, a strong run 996 00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,960 Speaker 1: back too, because he had one good series against the 997 00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,880 Speaker 1: Patriots in the second preseason game. This guy average the 998 00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:08,200 Speaker 1: worst yards after contact of any running back in the 999 00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:10,200 Speaker 1: NFL last year. He's just not that good. I mean, 1000 00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:12,759 Speaker 1: he's not that great. I'd rather just draft players that 1001 00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:16,080 Speaker 1: are that are good? Thank you. People get so worked 1002 00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:19,960 Speaker 1: about the situation, like Rashad Jennings is in a good situation, 1003 00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:22,440 Speaker 1: so he's getting overdrafted even at the beginning of the 1004 00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:24,160 Speaker 1: seventh threat. I just don't want to deal with it 1005 00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:26,719 Speaker 1: because you can find a great quarterback or a great 1006 00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:29,160 Speaker 1: tight end or a great wide receiver there and just 1007 00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:32,960 Speaker 1: draft players that have more potential than that. Um. By 1008 00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:34,880 Speaker 1: the way, Arian Foster, I gotta throw in there is 1009 00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:38,680 Speaker 1: the well insane overdrafted person in this entire boo. If 1010 00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:41,239 Speaker 1: you're just talking about where his talent level is right now, 1011 00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:43,160 Speaker 1: that's fine, but you have to throw in his injury 1012 00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:46,040 Speaker 1: history as well. It's outrageous that he's getting taken in 1013 00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:49,440 Speaker 1: the fifth round. So people are drafting taking Aryan Foster 1014 00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:53,840 Speaker 1: without a chance of actually watching him play and be healthy. 1015 00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,320 Speaker 1: Yet that's the ways to draft, tell you in leagues, 1016 00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:58,600 Speaker 1: because you take advantage of guys that really don't know. 1017 00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:04,000 Speaker 1: People are drafted Arian Foster over Larry Fitzgerald. Let's now 1018 00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:07,840 Speaker 1: before we move on to the wide receiver discussion, gentlemen, 1019 00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:13,040 Speaker 1: let's now take our first stroll over to a different 1020 00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:19,440 Speaker 1: area of the fantasy realm. Well, listen, I mean, okay, Okay, 1021 00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:21,760 Speaker 1: there you go. This is I'm out on the corner, 1022 00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:26,000 Speaker 1: Sessler's fantasy corner. I gave you a list of players 1023 00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:28,279 Speaker 1: last year to completely ignore, and I was ten for 1024 00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:31,680 Speaker 1: ten without question, ten for ten, and I'm gonna lock 1025 00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:35,960 Speaker 1: it down with ten running backs to avoid in fantasy circles. 1026 00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:39,800 Speaker 1: Just don't go near these guys. Number one, Bronson Edward 1027 00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:45,760 Speaker 1: o Hill, number two, Ali Rufus, number three, Ike Saturn, 1028 00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:52,120 Speaker 1: number four, Pope Troy Mayne, number five, Penny Elijah number six. 1029 00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:57,040 Speaker 1: Don't go near this guy, Cameron Stingley, number seven, Marshawn Coprich, 1030 00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:02,440 Speaker 1: number eight, Robert Otto b three, number nine, Taj Stingley Spiner, 1031 00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:05,399 Speaker 1: and number ten. Last running back you don't go near. 1032 00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:11,120 Speaker 1: I don't care what's happening, Tom Animal Sphinx wo there 1033 00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:17,120 Speaker 1: is one Bastingley Spiner related distingly, I was gonna say 1034 00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:21,880 Speaker 1: last year, that's a bad brother combo. Last year West 1035 00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:25,200 Speaker 1: did point out one of the names you listed. He said, 1036 00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:27,000 Speaker 1: you got to actually keep your eye on that. I 1037 00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:29,080 Speaker 1: got another one. You got another one. His name is 1038 00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:32,480 Speaker 1: Troy Mayne. Pope not Pope, Troy me okay, and he 1039 00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:37,239 Speaker 1: really good. Late in the second preseason game for the Seahawks. 1040 00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:40,120 Speaker 1: I know they have a depth chart. They're stacked, but 1041 00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:42,160 Speaker 1: I would say keep an eye on I just mal 1042 00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:44,600 Speaker 1: bad energy around him right now. I'm not saying his 1043 00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:46,600 Speaker 1: career is doomed, but you don't go near him yet 1044 00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:48,960 Speaker 1: right now. So as you can tell West by the 1045 00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:51,760 Speaker 1: ambient noise. Right now, you're no longer in your cushy 1046 00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:54,680 Speaker 1: little off fantasy office. You're on the streets. I know, 1047 00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:56,839 Speaker 1: and I'm not as good there as Marcus. Yeah, Mark 1048 00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:59,359 Speaker 1: lives on the streets. He speaks from the streets. It's 1049 00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:02,080 Speaker 1: in his heart, it's in his picture. He picks up hitchhikers, 1050 00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:05,560 Speaker 1: anything else. Mark on the fantasy not on that position. Okay, 1051 00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:07,520 Speaker 1: we're gonna come back to you, and yes, just let 1052 00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:09,959 Speaker 1: when we now talk about the wide receivers, you feel 1053 00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:11,920 Speaker 1: free to come in off the corner, but just let 1054 00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:13,319 Speaker 1: me know if you're on or off that, I'll let 1055 00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:16,759 Speaker 1: you know. Make sure. Okay, should we should we throw 1056 00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:19,839 Speaker 1: out rapid fire any quick? Last one back. I mean, 1057 00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:23,520 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like this is gonna be our rat. 1058 00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:27,560 Speaker 1: It's it's hard for me. Alright, rapid Fire one minute, 1059 00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:33,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna set the timer rapid fire. Go who's going first? 1060 00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:36,880 Speaker 1: These running backs are too low right now? A mirror Abdullah, 1061 00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:41,040 Speaker 1: Ryan Matthews, Derrick Henry, Kristen Michael, and Terence West. I. 1062 00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:43,600 Speaker 1: I totally agree with Derrick Henry. I throw Matt Jones 1063 00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:46,879 Speaker 1: in there, Indre'll knock him downs is way too high, 1064 00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:50,000 Speaker 1: Melvin Gordon, I would throw in their Carlos II, Geo 1065 00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:52,239 Speaker 1: Bernard and then the deep one Spencer were if you're 1066 00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:56,840 Speaker 1: looking for a really deep one. Kenneth Dixon and DeVante Booker. Wow, 1067 00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:59,600 Speaker 1: nice speed round. Guys didn't even need half a minute. 1068 00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:01,919 Speaker 1: Let's go overrated players too that you want to stay 1069 00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:04,400 Speaker 1: away from. I love Jonathan Stewart, but I don't want 1070 00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:07,000 Speaker 1: to draft Jonathan Stewart this this year. I think last 1071 00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:09,319 Speaker 1: year was the year that you want Jonathan Stewart. I 1072 00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:11,480 Speaker 1: pretty much mentioned everyone else. I think stay away from 1073 00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:13,439 Speaker 1: Justin for Sett and the rest of those running backs 1074 00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:15,560 Speaker 1: in Baltiore. Yeah, I think we hit all of them. 1075 00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:19,439 Speaker 1: DeMarco Murray is is overrated because of Derrick Henry. Matt 1076 00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:22,040 Speaker 1: Jones is overrated. The guys. The guy is not very 1077 00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:25,160 Speaker 1: good to begin with. He's three down back that'll probably 1078 00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:27,640 Speaker 1: get taken in the sixth or seventh round. Back down 1079 00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:29,920 Speaker 1: back who average three point four yards per carry with 1080 00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:33,360 Speaker 1: major fumbling issues last year, and I question his instincts. 1081 00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:35,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna die on this one quick question. I know 1082 00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:37,840 Speaker 1: everyone is just saying, no, take Ezekiel Elliott with the 1083 00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:39,680 Speaker 1: number one or number two pick, have a nice stay 1084 00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:42,239 Speaker 1: with it. Is there any concern that there are other 1085 00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:45,120 Speaker 1: more proven players to take for your first pick in 1086 00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:48,440 Speaker 1: your draft. I have zero concern with Ezekiel elle. I 1087 00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:51,680 Speaker 1: would generally rather take the wide receivers that are getting 1088 00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:54,399 Speaker 1: taken there. But I don't think he's ranked two low 1089 00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:56,400 Speaker 1: at running back like I'd rather have him than Lamar 1090 00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:59,239 Speaker 1: Miller who's getting taken in front of him. Absolutely stop it. 1091 00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:03,440 Speaker 1: Tavious Murray a little overrated in my throw that guy 1092 00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:05,319 Speaker 1: out there, all right, Let's now move on to the 1093 00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:10,600 Speaker 1: wide receivers. A DP insanity. See how it rhymes. Let 1094 00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:12,680 Speaker 1: me start with a doozy here. We need some sort 1095 00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:14,680 Speaker 1: of we need some sort of drop with the a 1096 00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:17,560 Speaker 1: DP insanity. I think that's an assign Okay for maybe 1097 00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:21,200 Speaker 1: for Wednesday, start special guest on Wednesday, you have to 1098 00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:25,399 Speaker 1: really step it up. Wow, that's a great call go ahead, West, 1099 00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:28,600 Speaker 1: Let's start this off with a banger. Alright. DeAndre Hopkins 1100 00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:32,880 Speaker 1: one interesting eighth pick in the first round ahead of 1101 00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:36,600 Speaker 1: Dez Bryant who looks fully healthy. And des Bryant, I'm sorry, 1102 00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:39,600 Speaker 1: is a better receiver than DeAndre Hoppens. Wow, West turning 1103 00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:42,680 Speaker 1: his back on DeAndre Hopkins. I love Hick Hopkins, but 1104 00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:44,640 Speaker 1: let's talk about this from a fantasy point of view. 1105 00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:48,000 Speaker 1: Last year, they have nobody on the other side of him, 1106 00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:50,080 Speaker 1: so they had to throw it to him every time. 1107 00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:53,200 Speaker 1: Now they've got Will Fuller, they got Braxton Miller, They're 1108 00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:56,840 Speaker 1: generating touches for Braxton Miller, the offensive coordinator is and 1109 00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:59,520 Speaker 1: they've got a stronger running game than they had last year. Dylan, 1110 00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:01,880 Speaker 1: of your how and simply isn't gonna be targeted like 1111 00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:03,800 Speaker 1: he was last year. Not to mention he's got a 1112 00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:06,760 Speaker 1: new quarterback. And you already mentioned how about the rapport 1113 00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:10,680 Speaker 1: between brock ost Wilder and Hopkins is not there yet 1114 00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:13,440 Speaker 1: over underpassing year. It's Texans this year to last year. 1115 00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:16,040 Speaker 1: I don't think it's necessarily going up, and it's certainly 1116 00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:18,560 Speaker 1: gonna be cut in more. Uh in a few more parts. 1117 00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:20,479 Speaker 1: As you mentioned, I agree, I like a J Green 1118 00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:23,200 Speaker 1: to have a really big Aja Green season. He's getting 1119 00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:26,040 Speaker 1: drafted after him, and then Allen Robinson, who's after Hopkins, 1120 00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:28,200 Speaker 1: is another guy who would expect to have a monster year. 1121 00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:30,799 Speaker 1: I would take Robinson after what we've seen in the 1122 00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:33,440 Speaker 1: preseason so far, and him and Blake Bortles absolutely on 1123 00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:35,040 Speaker 1: the same period in the corner. I'm on a corner 1124 00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:37,600 Speaker 1: this time, but I would take Robinson over Hopkins for 1125 00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:39,360 Speaker 1: everything you mentioned. It's like it's got to be a 1126 00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:42,520 Speaker 1: Texans coaching you know, need and want to have a 1127 00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:44,840 Speaker 1: little bit less of the offense have to go to 1128 00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:47,319 Speaker 1: Hopkins over and over week after week. See, while we're 1129 00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:50,319 Speaker 1: while we're near the the top of the draft, I'm 1130 00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:53,640 Speaker 1: gonna throw out some love for Keenan Allen I'm a 1131 00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:55,960 Speaker 1: little surprised is going late second, right, I mean, that's 1132 00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:58,600 Speaker 1: not a crazy undervalued guy. But I think in general, 1133 00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:00,320 Speaker 1: I am of the mind and this is become a 1134 00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:02,839 Speaker 1: trendier thing to do that most of these receivers are 1135 00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:04,800 Speaker 1: better bets than the running backs getting taken in the 1136 00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:07,239 Speaker 1: first three rounds. Damarius Thomas is another guy. Why is 1137 00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:10,640 Speaker 1: everyone so freaked out about the quarterback situation in Denver 1138 00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:13,319 Speaker 1: for Damarius Thomas, it's not gonna be worse than last 1139 00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:16,319 Speaker 1: year Keenan just not overall yards and he was a 1140 00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:18,719 Speaker 1: monster last year despite all the drops. Can I throw 1141 00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:20,640 Speaker 1: something out there with that? Damarius Thomas one of those 1142 00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:23,080 Speaker 1: guys that isn't really a fun guy to have on 1143 00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:27,680 Speaker 1: your fantasy team because you don't like four I'm not 1144 00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:32,600 Speaker 1: gonna go out for beers with him. I agree totally. 1145 00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:34,879 Speaker 1: I don't know why Mike Evans is getting drafted ahead 1146 00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:37,799 Speaker 1: of him. That's ridiculous. Jordy Nelson is too risky to 1147 00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:40,680 Speaker 1: take over Keenan Allen this year. Keenan Allen would have 1148 00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:43,480 Speaker 1: led the NFL and targets last year, probably had he 1149 00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:46,760 Speaker 1: not gotten injured. I'm stunned that Jordy Nelson is getting 1150 00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:49,359 Speaker 1: taken in the middle of the second round. It's a risk. 1151 00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:52,040 Speaker 1: I mean that, that seems crazy. He's someone where the 1152 00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:53,920 Speaker 1: preseason of matter if he played this week and he 1153 00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:56,560 Speaker 1: looks awesome, great, but he's thirty one years old coming 1154 00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:58,440 Speaker 1: off tourn a c L. This is much lower and 1155 00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:00,960 Speaker 1: it's not a taken too high area. But you're telling 1156 00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:03,480 Speaker 1: me that Dorial Green Beckham is at sixty one and 1157 00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:07,600 Speaker 1: Taj Sharp's at sixty. Hell's going on? Now, You're right, 1158 00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:10,160 Speaker 1: one made the other expendable. And by the way, they're 1159 00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:12,879 Speaker 1: saying that Josh Gordon, who's suspended for the first four games, 1160 00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:15,840 Speaker 1: is an absolute off the field wild card, is a 1161 00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:19,280 Speaker 1: spot more valuable than Larry Fitzgerald. Ridiculous. Well that that 1162 00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:21,640 Speaker 1: is one of the most overrated guys on this entire list, 1163 00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:24,000 Speaker 1: Josh Gordon. And it's not like a ranking. This is 1164 00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:27,040 Speaker 1: where they're they're going on average Josh Gordon sixth round. 1165 00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:30,120 Speaker 1: Josh Gordon might not for sure be worth the sixth 1166 00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:32,600 Speaker 1: round pick if he was playing the whole season. And 1167 00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:34,240 Speaker 1: the other guy that you mentioned is one of the 1168 00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:37,600 Speaker 1: most underrated. How is Larry Fitzgerald being drafted behind these guys? 1169 00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:39,640 Speaker 1: He's coming off a great year. It's almost like Greg 1170 00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:41,680 Speaker 1: made this list. You're no, give me a break. I 1171 00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:45,160 Speaker 1: love Larry FitzGeralds You're right there. You're right that we 1172 00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:48,160 Speaker 1: underrate Larry Fitzgerald every year we do. We just talked 1173 00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:51,000 Speaker 1: about his splits last week. He dropped in the second 1174 00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:53,080 Speaker 1: half of the season. Oh, I'm sorry you missed the 1175 00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:56,360 Speaker 1: really important playoff game that he won almost himself. Sure, no, 1176 00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:58,240 Speaker 1: he had a great game, but just for that wasn't 1177 00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:00,280 Speaker 1: part of the Fantasy playoffs. I'm just saying, well, this 1178 00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:03,720 Speaker 1: is it's also a blind spot there for Kristin Michael 1179 00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:07,200 Speaker 1: because fantasy seasons are over by week sixteen, and when 1180 00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:09,640 Speaker 1: he has a good week seventeen in playoffs, nobody's watching. 1181 00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:12,000 Speaker 1: I think Fitzgerald could be a better player than a 1182 00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:14,880 Speaker 1: great fantasy player, just because, as we've talked about, there's 1183 00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:16,880 Speaker 1: so many mouths to feed there, Kelvin Bench talking about 1184 00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:19,600 Speaker 1: a guy with a hundred nine receptions last year. There 1185 00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:23,520 Speaker 1: were reasons for that. Guys were out good bed good 1186 00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:26,440 Speaker 1: h Kelvin Benjamin. Does it strike you as strange that 1187 00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:28,960 Speaker 1: he's still going in the top thirty? I have him 1188 00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:31,520 Speaker 1: on my overrated least well when fungus is down at 1189 00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:34,480 Speaker 1: he and he but he literally is a guy that 1190 00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:37,000 Speaker 1: they only played nine snaps this week because they don't 1191 00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:39,840 Speaker 1: think he can handle more. Yeah, but they rolled him 1192 00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:41,760 Speaker 1: out there in the very beginning of the game and 1193 00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:44,960 Speaker 1: that thank you street corner sound effects. What's going on 1194 00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:52,760 Speaker 1: in the two seconds back? Just can I can I 1195 00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:54,800 Speaker 1: do it? And I love Larry Fitzgerald, but can I 1196 00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:58,240 Speaker 1: do a prop with you. Yes, uh, less than ninety 1197 00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:01,959 Speaker 1: catches this season, which would be like a fifteen catch 1198 00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:04,640 Speaker 1: drop off. And if you think there's no reason worried, 1199 00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:07,080 Speaker 1: I don't know if I want to prop where Larry's 1200 00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:09,400 Speaker 1: Fitzgerald has an eighty eight catch season and I'm wrong? 1201 00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:18,080 Speaker 1: Alright eight eight? Alright again, talk about reeling in a 1202 00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:22,440 Speaker 1: fish that was master? Can we note that? Mr Irish? Okay, 1203 00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:25,920 Speaker 1: thank you, I'll take that. Seems reasonable. We will be 1204 00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:30,360 Speaker 1: the season starts what in two weeks? Just a reminder 1205 00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:32,560 Speaker 1: to everyone that we will will be doing our regular 1206 00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:36,440 Speaker 1: season uh sandwich props uh pod which is always one 1207 00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:39,200 Speaker 1: of the best pods of the year and my humble opinion, 1208 00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:41,280 Speaker 1: in the next ten fourteen days, So keep an eye 1209 00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:45,080 Speaker 1: out for that. Uh. Let's now, yes, now, let's in Earnest, 1210 00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:47,560 Speaker 1: even though he ducks his head out from uh from 1211 00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:50,840 Speaker 1: the street lamp that he leans on with the cigarettes 1212 00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:52,640 Speaker 1: rolled up in the T shirt every once in a while, 1213 00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:56,440 Speaker 1: Let's now go there in Earnest, Uh the street corner, Sessler, 1214 00:59:56,520 --> 01:00:00,200 Speaker 1: what are you talking about? Overrated, underrated, wide receipt, Well, 1215 01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:02,920 Speaker 1: forget all that nonsense. Here are four things to do 1216 01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:05,960 Speaker 1: instead of trying to be some sort of amazing alpha 1217 01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:09,480 Speaker 1: male slash human savior who ranks wide receivers on a 1218 01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:13,720 Speaker 1: football podcast. Number one Travel to Syria and rake leaves 1219 01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:17,200 Speaker 1: outside a Syrian based business of your choice. Number two. 1220 01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:20,960 Speaker 1: Allow a trusted work friend to blindfold you while you 1221 01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:24,760 Speaker 1: also give him unlimited access to your checking account. Allow 1222 01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:27,400 Speaker 1: said work friend to purchase a one way bus ticket 1223 01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:30,680 Speaker 1: to anywhere in the country with the blindfold on. Allow 1224 01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:33,600 Speaker 1: the friend to guide you onto your designated bus. Once 1225 01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:36,600 Speaker 1: the vehicle is moving, remove the blindfold. You will go 1226 01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:39,360 Speaker 1: wherever your friends sent you and stay there for no 1227 01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:42,320 Speaker 1: less than twenty four months. Shedding your many layers of 1228 01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:45,440 Speaker 1: ego and emotional neediness to build a new life from scratch. 1229 01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:51,160 Speaker 1: Number three. Number three that could happen. Number three. Instead 1230 01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:54,800 Speaker 1: of spending the entire football season obsessed with yourself and 1231 01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:58,360 Speaker 1: your fantasy football jag, use this autumn to become important 1232 01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:01,720 Speaker 1: in the life of a child. Number four. Dive deep 1233 01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:06,000 Speaker 1: into Dungeons and Dragons. Dump all distractions and dive into 1234 01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:08,960 Speaker 1: D and D. Use important family money to fly to 1235 01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:11,680 Speaker 1: D and D conventions and become known in D and 1236 01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:14,920 Speaker 1: D circles as a fast riser. Put your career in 1237 01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:18,440 Speaker 1: personal relationships a deep second, as you allow Dungeons and 1238 01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:22,240 Speaker 1: Dragons to completely and dangerously absorb you. I love that 1239 01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:25,720 Speaker 1: last point because fantasy football and Dungeon Dragons are basically 1240 01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:30,480 Speaker 1: the same thing. Thank you. No An doesn't like that, 1241 01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:33,920 Speaker 1: but it is. It is. You're basically just playing. But 1242 01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:36,600 Speaker 1: you love D n D. You literally just posted like 1243 01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:40,640 Speaker 1: twenty I do not love it. I find it a 1244 01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:46,880 Speaker 1: truly odd part of the nineteen eighties that you enjoyed. 1245 01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:51,120 Speaker 1: I did not immerse in it. Now I will. I 1246 01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:52,840 Speaker 1: get that is kind of what a D n D 1247 01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:56,160 Speaker 1: guy who you are. Let's face it, it's your your 1248 01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:58,960 Speaker 1: history and your Instagram account would say about fantasy sports. 1249 01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:02,800 Speaker 1: I'm not saying, well, I think exactly the same thing. 1250 01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:06,800 Speaker 1: They're not. They're both fantasies. I don't want to get 1251 01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:09,680 Speaker 1: into the stereotypes of the D and D crowd, but uh, 1252 01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:11,480 Speaker 1: I think you should look a little closer at the 1253 01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:14,520 Speaker 1: fantasy football crowd. Well, there's extremes at every sport again, 1254 01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:17,480 Speaker 1: or every phase of life. Whatever. Let's move on. Did 1255 01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:20,600 Speaker 1: we did we do underrated for wide receivers? We kind 1256 01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:22,800 Speaker 1: of went back and forth. Let's go out a speed 1257 01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:26,440 Speaker 1: let's do a speed round. Let it rip, Let's go underrated. 1258 01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:31,200 Speaker 1: Jeremy Macklin way underrated, great year last year. Locked in 1259 01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:33,480 Speaker 1: is the number one. Alex Smith is in control of 1260 01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:38,480 Speaker 1: that offense. Dante Moncrief, if he's not injured, guaranteed breakout season, 1261 01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:41,560 Speaker 1: You're gonna want him. Corey Coleman great guy to take 1262 01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:43,840 Speaker 1: a flyer on. And Mohamed Snoo is gonna touch the 1263 01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:46,360 Speaker 1: aball eighty times in the Falcons offense. Take Mohamed Snow 1264 01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:48,560 Speaker 1: even if you don't think he's a good talent, he's 1265 01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:50,600 Speaker 1: gonna touch the ball. That was wild to me that 1266 01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:53,080 Speaker 1: he's getting taken in the twelfth round. I'm not super 1267 01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:56,120 Speaker 1: high on Sinow, but that seems like easy money that late. 1268 01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:58,920 Speaker 1: I agree with you there, I agree uh? Or I 1269 01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:02,200 Speaker 1: believe his old he made mo Jones is underrated right now. 1270 01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:04,240 Speaker 1: I like Golden Tape, but I'm surprised he's getting taken 1271 01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:06,560 Speaker 1: a few rounds after him. Jarvis Landry has the most 1272 01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:08,600 Speaker 1: catches in NFL history in the first two years of 1273 01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:10,640 Speaker 1: his career, and that offense should be better. Why is 1274 01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:14,280 Speaker 1: Jarvis Landry going going so late? Uh? And then Stefon 1275 01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:16,560 Speaker 1: Diggs I'm kind of buying buying the stuff on Diggs 1276 01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:18,120 Speaker 1: hype as the number one guy there. I can get 1277 01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:21,000 Speaker 1: board with it. He has number one type abilities or 1278 01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:22,959 Speaker 1: is he a number two? That he's a number two. 1279 01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:24,960 Speaker 1: He's not a he's not an X receiver, but he 1280 01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:27,440 Speaker 1: could put up number one numbers. I think just because 1281 01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:29,320 Speaker 1: I think they'll be a little better passing and I 1282 01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:31,320 Speaker 1: think he's the best receiver on that team by a 1283 01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:35,240 Speaker 1: decent amount. I wanna throw one out to all three 1284 01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:38,280 Speaker 1: of you gentlemen right now, who will be the Kristen 1285 01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:41,600 Speaker 1: Michael Memorial. It's funny because he could be the winner 1286 01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:46,720 Speaker 1: of this very category, even though remember Kristen Michael Memorial. 1287 01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:50,440 Speaker 1: What the hell was I thinking? Hindsight is award not. 1288 01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:52,520 Speaker 1: This is not a shot at him. This is a 1289 01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:55,440 Speaker 1: couple of years ago when he failed. Uh. Past winners 1290 01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:58,880 Speaker 1: and include a Quarterill Patterson. Uh, you plug in that 1291 01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:01,680 Speaker 1: guy in another You got sucked in by the hype 1292 01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:03,880 Speaker 1: and then you're almost embarrassed to admit it later where 1293 01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:05,760 Speaker 1: you took this guy in the draft, who is the 1294 01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:10,080 Speaker 1: guy that's so buzzy and everyone's confident about. But come December, 1295 01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:12,160 Speaker 1: you're really gonna be cringing when you look at your 1296 01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:15,760 Speaker 1: draft board running back or wide receiver. I don't know 1297 01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:18,040 Speaker 1: who's buzzy because I'm not really plugged in on that. 1298 01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:20,600 Speaker 1: But Matt Jones was the first guy I thought of. Really, 1299 01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:22,720 Speaker 1: you are so down on Matt Jones. I mean, Kevin 1300 01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:24,280 Speaker 1: White was the first guy that I wouldn't want to 1301 01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:26,760 Speaker 1: get anywhere near. He's like a seventh round was playing 1302 01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:29,080 Speaker 1: this pretty safe here, But that's that's a mid round 1303 01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:31,360 Speaker 1: pick that you're just wasting on Kevin White around guys 1304 01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:33,840 Speaker 1: like Jordan Matthews and DeVante Parker who had want much 1305 01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:36,200 Speaker 1: much more than them. But all right, let me let 1306 01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:38,080 Speaker 1: me go up throw somebody out there. Is somebody with 1307 01:04:38,080 --> 01:04:40,880 Speaker 1: a little name Lamar Miller. You want to throw Lamar 1308 01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:44,960 Speaker 1: Miller ahead. That's actually a perfect example. Here's why in 1309 01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:47,760 Speaker 1: fantasy football, your first round draft pick cannot be a risk. 1310 01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:50,960 Speaker 1: He has to be a surefire guy. Lamar Miller has 1311 01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:54,280 Speaker 1: never carried the load before a lot of different coaching staffs. 1312 01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:57,200 Speaker 1: It could because they're all those coaching staff were truly inept. 1313 01:04:57,840 --> 01:04:59,560 Speaker 1: That could be it, or it could be the Lamar 1314 01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:02,680 Speaker 1: Miller doesn't run well between the tackles. Isn't great and 1315 01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:05,800 Speaker 1: short yardage and might not hold up to a big workload. 1316 01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:07,840 Speaker 1: I love Lamar Miller, but that's a great example because 1317 01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:10,560 Speaker 1: that could blow up in people's faces. Uh, fantasy corner, 1318 01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:13,720 Speaker 1: you got one, I do, but it's gonna be unpopular. 1319 01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:18,560 Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson, that's great. I I it's not that I 1320 01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:21,920 Speaker 1: doubt Adrian Peterson. I I don't want him as my 1321 01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:24,200 Speaker 1: I'm number one in the draft. I got the first pick, 1322 01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:26,240 Speaker 1: and it's been the locked in pick for years. I'm 1323 01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:27,840 Speaker 1: not doing it this season. Well, let me just say 1324 01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:31,000 Speaker 1: the Christen Michael Award. Nobody would be shocked that you 1325 01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:35,640 Speaker 1: used your first round pick on Adrian Peterson. Though not really, 1326 01:05:35,680 --> 01:05:37,920 Speaker 1: But I mean, I'm okay, I'm trying to understand it. 1327 01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:40,440 Speaker 1: It's like a guy that you're kind of banking on 1328 01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:43,840 Speaker 1: based on the excitement that's built over the last six months. 1329 01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:46,760 Speaker 1: Eddie Lacy's on that list. Why is he this? Like 1330 01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:50,120 Speaker 1: after most guys after they have a terrible season do 1331 01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:52,560 Speaker 1: not go way up in terms of their average draft position. 1332 01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:55,400 Speaker 1: I'd worn Eddie Lazy on my roster, but I I'm 1333 01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:57,400 Speaker 1: with you. I'm surprised I would have to use a 1334 01:05:57,440 --> 01:05:59,720 Speaker 1: second round pick on it like a high second round pick. 1335 01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:03,120 Speaker 1: That's wild to me. Later that's later on in this 1336 01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:05,320 Speaker 1: I don't like we're Brandon Cooks. I'm not going to 1337 01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:07,520 Speaker 1: jump on the Brandon Cook's experience over some of the 1338 01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:09,880 Speaker 1: people that are behind him. I agree. I forgot my 1339 01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:13,640 Speaker 1: almost my favorite underrated receiver of the first three rounds, 1340 01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:17,040 Speaker 1: t Y Hilton. I would I would not be surprised 1341 01:06:17,080 --> 01:06:19,120 Speaker 1: if t Y Hilton leads the league in receiving or 1342 01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:22,200 Speaker 1: is right in the mix. Would that be that surprise us? 1343 01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:24,439 Speaker 1: They've got a lot of mouse. I think they're gonna 1344 01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:26,640 Speaker 1: be throwing the ball a ton and I think he 1345 01:06:26,680 --> 01:06:30,080 Speaker 1: has set up for a career year over Antonio Brown. 1346 01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:33,120 Speaker 1: And I mean this would obviously you're I'm talking in 1347 01:06:33,160 --> 01:06:35,840 Speaker 1: the sense of like he has long odds to do it, 1348 01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:39,520 Speaker 1: But it wouldn't shock me if he is in that mix. Okay, 1349 01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:42,760 Speaker 1: before we go, let's now check in with the Around 1350 01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:46,080 Speaker 1: the NFL podcast subreddit where they have a thread uh 1351 01:06:46,080 --> 01:06:47,480 Speaker 1: and make sure you get on there if you're a 1352 01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:50,040 Speaker 1: fan of the show. A lot of fun that subreddit 1353 01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:54,400 Speaker 1: um where they have a mail bag for fantasy questions 1354 01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:58,400 Speaker 1: for the heroes. Irish went through the bag, and this 1355 01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:01,680 Speaker 1: is what he got. First. One is are there any 1356 01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:05,959 Speaker 1: roos from it is from my kriegel. Are there any 1357 01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:12,400 Speaker 1: rookie wide receivers worth drafting? High rookie wide receivers? Oh? 1358 01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:15,959 Speaker 1: I got one, the Fuller kid in Houston. You're gonna 1359 01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:18,400 Speaker 1: draft him high. I don't know how high? Does he mean? 1360 01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:22,720 Speaker 1: Because but not hot? Let's see where Fuller is? No, 1361 01:07:22,840 --> 01:07:25,480 Speaker 1: I think the answers, no, there's none worth drafting. I 1362 01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:28,640 Speaker 1: would take Corey Coleman based on where he is a DP. 1363 01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:30,880 Speaker 1: I believe it's like the tenth round or something. Yeah, 1364 01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:34,840 Speaker 1: I think Corey Coleman would be Yeah, he's late ninth round. 1365 01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:36,800 Speaker 1: I would take him there. But when I hear high, 1366 01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:40,400 Speaker 1: I'm I'm thinking fourth or fifth round for what there are. 1367 01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:43,200 Speaker 1: Treadwell as a guy who'd say red flag there for him, 1368 01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:45,440 Speaker 1: I mean, it's crazy he's still getting drafted. He should 1369 01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:48,360 Speaker 1: not be drafted at all at this point. Lakwan Treadwell, 1370 01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:51,600 Speaker 1: it's crazy that he would be even in the mix. Uh. 1371 01:07:51,640 --> 01:07:55,040 Speaker 1: Sterling Shepherd certainly had a lot of buzz. How about 1372 01:07:55,080 --> 01:07:59,080 Speaker 1: Tyler Boyd as a as a late round, very late round, 1373 01:07:59,120 --> 01:08:00,720 Speaker 1: that would not be high, that would not be happy. 1374 01:08:01,320 --> 01:08:06,440 Speaker 1: Do you guys are aware my situation was Shepherd right? 1375 01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:10,280 Speaker 1: You don't like you're not buying in at all? Be careful. 1376 01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:14,400 Speaker 1: Guess he actually could win the Christen Michael Award. That's fair. 1377 01:08:14,560 --> 01:08:16,400 Speaker 1: I'll throw him out there. I think he's safe. I 1378 01:08:16,439 --> 01:08:19,400 Speaker 1: would take him on my fantasy roster. Uh. What else 1379 01:08:19,479 --> 01:08:22,080 Speaker 1: we got in the old male bag? This is from 1380 01:08:22,160 --> 01:08:26,840 Speaker 1: Sam K Butler. What offenses are you avoiding completely half 1381 01:08:26,840 --> 01:08:32,160 Speaker 1: the league? Why do you say that was trust? Yeah? 1382 01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:35,000 Speaker 1: Like take take the players on the high octane offenses. 1383 01:08:35,160 --> 01:08:38,200 Speaker 1: That's how you win fantasy leagues. I don't. I always was. 1384 01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:41,360 Speaker 1: I never had hard and fast rules. I always thought 1385 01:08:41,360 --> 01:08:44,559 Speaker 1: hard and fast rules are stupid because there's every player 1386 01:08:44,680 --> 01:08:47,120 Speaker 1: is that its own, its own thing. And so if 1387 01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:50,559 Speaker 1: you name me a team in the league that you 1388 01:08:50,680 --> 01:08:52,639 Speaker 1: don't think I could find a fantasy guy, I bet 1389 01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:54,519 Speaker 1: you could find a round where I would want one 1390 01:08:54,560 --> 01:08:57,800 Speaker 1: of those guys that have some value. What team is 1391 01:08:57,840 --> 01:09:00,200 Speaker 1: that I would probably not draft? The Philade If you 1392 01:09:00,320 --> 01:09:03,960 Speaker 1: eagle Jordan Matthews to me, is absolutely a good value 1393 01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:06,400 Speaker 1: where he's getting taken. I think he's a seventh eighth 1394 01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:09,160 Speaker 1: round pick. I like that for Jordan Matthews. He could 1395 01:09:09,200 --> 01:09:14,360 Speaker 1: have a monster. Probably wouldn't draft a Buffalo Bill. I 1396 01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:16,160 Speaker 1: know we like Coleman, but they have Terrell Prior and 1397 01:09:16,240 --> 01:09:18,320 Speaker 1: Josh Gordon in the top sixty, and I think that 1398 01:09:18,320 --> 01:09:21,439 Speaker 1: that offense is just gonna be kind of flukey shots 1399 01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:24,400 Speaker 1: down field, and they've got Isaiah Crowell. I would never 1400 01:09:24,439 --> 01:09:26,920 Speaker 1: take any Brown running back. I wouldn't touch on Coleman. 1401 01:09:27,439 --> 01:09:29,479 Speaker 1: Coleman is the one guy that you take on. You 1402 01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:32,280 Speaker 1: wouldn't take Lashawan McCoy if he's if he's still there, 1403 01:09:32,280 --> 01:09:35,320 Speaker 1: and not take Lashaw McCoy based on principal alone. I 1404 01:09:35,320 --> 01:09:37,000 Speaker 1: can't stand that guy well. And look what happened to 1405 01:09:37,040 --> 01:09:39,559 Speaker 1: him last year. They got him into the red zone 1406 01:09:39,640 --> 01:09:42,080 Speaker 1: and then it was Carlos Williams racking up the touchdown. 1407 01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:45,439 Speaker 1: Who's that guy this year? They've got other good backs. 1408 01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:47,320 Speaker 1: Jonathan Williams is a good I mean they have other 1409 01:09:47,360 --> 01:09:50,120 Speaker 1: They've got a pretty deep backfield. Actually, I mean Reggie 1410 01:09:50,200 --> 01:09:52,519 Speaker 1: If Reggie Bush is your number two and Mike gillis 1411 01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:54,599 Speaker 1: LEI is the other guy. I don't know that doesn't 1412 01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:56,960 Speaker 1: seem to be I like Leashan McCoy, I mean just 1413 01:09:57,000 --> 01:09:58,840 Speaker 1: in terms. I like him in general. I think he 1414 01:09:58,840 --> 01:10:00,920 Speaker 1: played better last year than peop give him credit for. 1415 01:10:01,080 --> 01:10:03,280 Speaker 1: Outside of a late round flyer on Terence West, I 1416 01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:07,639 Speaker 1: wouldn't touch any ravens mm hmm. That's in that one. 1417 01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:10,920 Speaker 1: You might have me then and Sizzler have a sandwich 1418 01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:12,840 Speaker 1: on Ben I would take I would take away. But 1419 01:10:12,920 --> 01:10:18,160 Speaker 1: that was I made a massive calculated arrow. I I 1420 01:10:18,360 --> 01:10:20,240 Speaker 1: when I listened to that podcast, I wanted to be 1421 01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:24,120 Speaker 1: on the side where Ben Watson is gonna massively underperform expectations. Well, 1422 01:10:24,160 --> 01:10:28,400 Speaker 1: and I was one. Yeah, I I tried to know. 1423 01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:30,920 Speaker 1: I'm not adding more people to what I'm saying was 1424 01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:33,200 Speaker 1: a terrible bet on my part. Yeah, jump on. Let 1425 01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:35,160 Speaker 1: me buy you a wager is that Ben Watson will 1426 01:10:35,200 --> 01:10:39,720 Speaker 1: have more than five yards. That was crazy because you 1427 01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:41,880 Speaker 1: caught me in a in a scattered moment. If there's 1428 01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:44,920 Speaker 1: anything else there, their Crockett Gilmore is there that has pitted. 1429 01:10:44,920 --> 01:10:47,000 Speaker 1: There's Max Williams, whom they drafted in the second. If 1430 01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:50,799 Speaker 1: like twelve players went down in like a lost bus incident, 1431 01:10:50,920 --> 01:10:52,760 Speaker 1: then I'm on fire with that. If you were like 1432 01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:57,080 Speaker 1: picking the guy most likely to run the NFL p A, yes, 1433 01:10:57,280 --> 01:10:59,519 Speaker 1: you could take a sandwich on very smart not drafting 1434 01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:04,400 Speaker 1: any tamp Bay Buccaneers about Robert come back, I don't. 1435 01:11:04,439 --> 01:11:06,840 Speaker 1: I can't stand their uniforms. Mark's got a good point 1436 01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:10,160 Speaker 1: about their stadium during the sunlight hours. And I just said, 1437 01:11:10,160 --> 01:11:12,599 Speaker 1: everybody's way too high on Jameis Winston this year. Well 1438 01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:14,719 Speaker 1: what about what about Doug Martin? What about Doug Martin? 1439 01:11:14,760 --> 01:11:19,439 Speaker 1: You watched every Jami. Everybody thinks he's better than Mariota 1440 01:11:19,479 --> 01:11:21,799 Speaker 1: now and he's not. Don't take it out on Marriott 1441 01:11:21,800 --> 01:11:25,000 Speaker 1: and taking it out on him. You can't stop me. Also, 1442 01:11:25,160 --> 01:11:27,320 Speaker 1: Doug Martin was a great pick last year because he 1443 01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:29,800 Speaker 1: was running. Everybody now expects him to do what he 1444 01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:31,320 Speaker 1: did last year, and I don't think he's gonna do it. 1445 01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:33,240 Speaker 1: He's late second round. If he I'm just saying, if 1446 01:11:33,240 --> 01:11:35,360 Speaker 1: he's there in the fourth round, then you're like, Okay, 1447 01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:37,680 Speaker 1: I have a question, was honest question, because I don't 1448 01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:39,880 Speaker 1: know if it's a little stick or you're being honest, 1449 01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:42,880 Speaker 1: like you're you're a fantasy guy and you're trying to 1450 01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:45,240 Speaker 1: win a fantasy league. Why are you really going to 1451 01:11:45,320 --> 01:11:49,120 Speaker 1: avoid certain guys and certain app teams? Because the way 1452 01:11:49,160 --> 01:11:52,559 Speaker 1: the sunlight absolutely, first of all, this was save this 1453 01:11:52,600 --> 01:11:54,000 Speaker 1: for We could save a lot of this for the 1454 01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:59,320 Speaker 1: Philosophy podcast, the Fantasy Philosophy pods the week, but this 1455 01:11:59,400 --> 01:12:02,720 Speaker 1: is this is for you to go have fun. There 1456 01:12:02,720 --> 01:12:05,320 Speaker 1: are many ways to construct a winning team, put a 1457 01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:07,760 Speaker 1: stranglehold on your league, and still avoid players you don't like. 1458 01:12:08,160 --> 01:12:09,719 Speaker 1: And he makes a good point, because if you're gonna 1459 01:12:09,720 --> 01:12:11,400 Speaker 1: be a good Fantasy owner, you want to go watch 1460 01:12:11,479 --> 01:12:14,680 Speaker 1: these guys, whether it's Game Pass wherever and and the 1461 01:12:14,720 --> 01:12:17,360 Speaker 1: Bucks Stadium. I don't know how many other ways to 1462 01:12:17,400 --> 01:12:21,639 Speaker 1: say this is the worst sporting venue in the country 1463 01:12:21,640 --> 01:12:24,920 Speaker 1: to watch, much less on a replay. The way that 1464 01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:26,960 Speaker 1: it is. When it's early in the morning, it's intense. 1465 01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:28,479 Speaker 1: Suddenly it's kind of if it happens to you in 1466 01:12:28,479 --> 01:12:31,479 Speaker 1: real life. You get inside immediately, so you take it 1467 01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:35,559 Speaker 1: over the Georgia domes. You know where I'm with domes 1468 01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:39,360 Speaker 1: um West And I don't want to question your integrity, 1469 01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:42,280 Speaker 1: which is through the roofs through the roof. But if 1470 01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:44,920 Speaker 1: Doug Martin somehow slips in a league you're into, like 1471 01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:47,240 Speaker 1: the fifth round, you're not gonna take Doug Martin probably. 1472 01:12:47,560 --> 01:12:49,519 Speaker 1: I usually stick to my guns on this kind of thing. 1473 01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:51,720 Speaker 1: I don't want a guy on my team. He's not 1474 01:12:51,720 --> 01:12:53,800 Speaker 1: gonna be on my team. I can find a way 1475 01:12:53,840 --> 01:12:56,640 Speaker 1: to win a league. Dan, I'm not worried about that. Okay, 1476 01:12:56,760 --> 01:12:59,880 Speaker 1: all right, I was just checking seventh round Doug Martin's 1477 01:13:00,320 --> 01:13:02,840 Speaker 1: but you don't like the way the site. I trust 1478 01:13:02,920 --> 01:13:05,120 Speaker 1: my gut, Like if did my guts telling me stay 1479 01:13:05,120 --> 01:13:09,040 Speaker 1: away from Doug Martin this year round everyone's fallen into 1480 01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:11,759 Speaker 1: At that point, Mike Evans is still on the board. 1481 01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:14,519 Speaker 1: For some reason, they forgot he existed at that point, Like, 1482 01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:16,840 Speaker 1: that's that's a sign. If he's still there at the 1483 01:13:16,840 --> 01:13:18,800 Speaker 1: fifteenth round, it's a sign that you should keep doing this. 1484 01:13:18,880 --> 01:13:22,519 Speaker 1: Stick alright, sixth round, Mike Evans on the board. But 1485 01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:25,200 Speaker 1: a cloud cover is rolled into the Tampa area and 1486 01:13:25,200 --> 01:13:28,080 Speaker 1: it's sitting there all through the fall in winter. Uh 1487 01:13:28,160 --> 01:13:31,920 Speaker 1: so no sunshine issues, then, would you take? No? I 1488 01:13:31,960 --> 01:13:36,360 Speaker 1: can't watch those uniforms. They're hideous, anti dome and anti sunshine. 1489 01:13:36,920 --> 01:13:41,320 Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no, anti Tampa Florida sunshine, not sunshine, 1490 01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:44,280 Speaker 1: not all sunshine. I was hung over one Sunday morning, 1491 01:13:44,320 --> 01:13:46,360 Speaker 1: was assigned to watch the Buccaneers in a road game, 1492 01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:50,640 Speaker 1: and those uniforms made by hangover ten times worst. All right. 1493 01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:52,920 Speaker 1: On that note, that wraps up part one of our 1494 01:13:52,960 --> 01:13:57,840 Speaker 1: fantasy extravaganza. We'll be back Wednesday with more football chatter. 1495 01:13:57,920 --> 01:14:03,720 Speaker 1: Will also continue our division by division preview, moving on 1496 01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:06,639 Speaker 1: to the a f C, starting with the Eastern Division. 1497 01:14:06,680 --> 01:14:09,240 Speaker 1: So everybody get excited. Make sure you tune an end 1498 01:14:09,479 --> 01:14:16,439 Speaker 1: special guest producer under very um listen somber, a somber 1499 01:14:16,439 --> 01:14:20,519 Speaker 1: setting or a setting of excitement, depending on where you 1500 01:14:20,560 --> 01:14:23,720 Speaker 1: come down in this person. Yeah, I mean he's his 1501 01:14:23,800 --> 01:14:26,000 Speaker 1: opinion matters too, and there I could say bitter bitter 1502 01:14:26,040 --> 01:14:29,479 Speaker 1: sweet would work, Bitter sweet might be covers you both ways, 1503 01:14:30,240 --> 01:14:33,559 Speaker 1: gives you nice coverage anyway, Thank you. This is Dan 1504 01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:42,280 Speaker 1: Hanson signing off for Quiet Star, The mail Man, the Boss, 1505 01:14:44,200 --> 01:15:08,160 Speaker 1: and the Irishman behind the Glass till Wednesday.