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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Living and Dream once again here on a beautiful Saturday,

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Speaker 2: here on the Jonas Knock Show. No Jonahs today, folks,

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Speaker 2: but Tracy and I are here to carry you through

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Speaker 2: a couple hours here on a beautiful Saturday. Tracy, it

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Speaker 2: is great to see you. As always. You've been busy, busy, busy,

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Speaker 2: which you always are. Happy Valentine's Day, by the way.

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Speaker 3: Happy Valentine's Day to you. I love that I get

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Speaker 3: to host radio with you today.

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Speaker 2: I love being here on Valentine's Day, especially because you know,

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Speaker 2: it's a day of love. And so whoever, okay, I'm

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Speaker 2: going to have to come clean here about Valentine's Day,

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Speaker 2: just at the top and get it out of the way.

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Speaker 2: So Valentine's Day is one of those days when you're

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Speaker 2: supposed to reach out to you know, that special Valentine,

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Speaker 2: which is great.

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Speaker 4: Any people you love.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much. And in my attitude about this

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Speaker 2: is if you really love someone, every day's Valentine's Day.

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Speaker 2: That's very true, or any day could be Valentine's Day

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Speaker 2: that is also true. And you know, also there look

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Speaker 2: at there's a commercialization. I get it to Valentine's Day.

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Speaker 2: A lot of pressure on guys, especially deliver the flowers,

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Speaker 2: the canty, whatever is going to make their Valentine happy.

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Speaker 2: I get all that, but Tracy, I want you to

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Speaker 2: be perfectly honest from a women's perspective. How important is

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Speaker 2: it for those that you feel should be giving you

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Speaker 2: something on Valentine's Day? Deliver something on Valentine's Day.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm going to start with I am a festive

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Speaker 3: human and you guys can't see me right now unless

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Speaker 3: you go on Twitter, Instagram and then you could.

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Speaker 4: But I am wearing a very.

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Speaker 3: Valentine's theme sweatshirt. There's Cupid on it, there's hearts. My shoes,

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you knows. They're pink with red flitters.

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Speaker 3: So I'm a festive human. So any reason to be

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Speaker 3: festive I'm into. I think if there is someone that

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Speaker 3: is supposed to be my Valentine, the day should be acknowledged.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't have to be a big, expensive gift, but

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Speaker 3: the day should be acknowledged. Some flowers, World Series tickets

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Speaker 3: for a Dodger's three, pe.

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Speaker 4: Tickets the final four to see Michigan.

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Speaker 3: Little things, nothing major, just some sort of acknowledgment, or

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Speaker 3: may I say, and I'm throwing this out here for

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Speaker 3: anyone listening that should be sending me something. I love

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Speaker 3: the Susa cakes cupcakes and say I love you.

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Speaker 2: Just throwing it out there, all right. I will say

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Speaker 2: one final word for the guys out there. When they say, oh,

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Speaker 2: you don't have to give me anything, ignore that. Give

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Speaker 2: them something, all right, absolutely, dude. Ignore when they say, oh, no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: no big deal, you don't have to give me anything.

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Speaker 2: You have to give them something, do it. Have a

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Speaker 2: happy Valentine's Day, all right. We got a lot of

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Speaker 2: things going on right now. Tracy was in San Francisco

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Speaker 2: the whole week, leaning up course as your home turf. Yes,

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Speaker 2: so to speak. So I'm sure very disappointing that your

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Speaker 2: belove forty nine ers were not in the Super Bowl

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Speaker 2: this year.

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Speaker 4: Man, game, I'm a reporter, I'm not a fan.

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Speaker 2: I understand. Well, you're hey, you are a close observed

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Speaker 3: Close observer of the forty nine ershe observer closely exactly.

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Speaker 2: But at the same time, and by the way, I

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Speaker 2: mentioned this specifically because when a city is hosting a

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Speaker 2: be there, but wasn't.

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Speaker 4: There and their art rival is right, How was.

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Speaker 2: That from a mood standpoint in the city of San

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Speaker 2: Francisco that not only were the forty nine Ers not there,

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Speaker 2: but the team that blew them out in the playoffs

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Speaker 2: and a division rival, the Seahawks, were there. How did

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Speaker 2: that just sort of fester not with the Seahawks or

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Speaker 3: Well, I think it was more that the Seahawks were

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Speaker 3: there than the forty nine Ers weren't there. With everything

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Speaker 3: the forty nine Ers went through the season and where

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Speaker 3: they got to. Obviously, it's disappointing they didn't get where

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Speaker 4: Thought the divisional round was as far as they were getting.

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Speaker 3: Was a feeling that it was a disappointing season, but

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Speaker 3: et cetera. I think it was more that the Seahawks

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Speaker 4: So I think that part of it was fine.

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Speaker 3: It was just more like, we are going to probably

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Speaker 2: Oh.

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Speaker 3: But then I don't know what's worse though. If the

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Speaker 3: Rams might have been worse, it's hard to work.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure have been worse. That's a two rival ra

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Speaker 2: I mean the Seahawks are more recent. The Rams and

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Speaker 2: forty nine Ers obviously go back way back in time.

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Speaker 2: All right, So as far as the game was concerned,

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Speaker 2: VJ and I were here on our Sunday show last

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Speaker 2: last Sunday, obviously five hour pre show.

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Speaker 4: We do this nally.

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Speaker 2: It's a lot of hours, but you know, we're having

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Speaker 2: fun with it. We were breaking down some food ideas

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Speaker 2: as you're getting ready to watch the game, and obviously

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Speaker 2: a lot of prop bets. But here's here's how I

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Speaker 2: pretty much summed up what actually happened in the game.

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Speaker 2: Everything that we said should happen. If you looked at

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Speaker 2: the two teams on paper, it was supposed to be

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Speaker 2: a mismatch. So everything that should happen did happen, and

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Speaker 2: then we broke down what could happen, and none of

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Speaker 2: what could happen actually happened. Okay, so my takeaway was

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Speaker 2: after the game we're just watching the game almost from

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Speaker 2: the get go, is the Seahawks completely dominated the line

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Speaker 2: of scrimmage, completely dominated, and Tracy We've been talking about

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Speaker 2: all season long. The NFC was just significantly better than

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Speaker 2: getting the Patriots to the Super Bowl. Obviously, the easiest

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Speaker 2: They took advantage again, give them credit for winning games

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Speaker 2: you're supposed to win. And then as far as the

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Speaker 2: postseason was concerned, they ran into some good defenses that

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Speaker 2: you know, Drake may won from a seventy two percent

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Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. But they lucked out because the Chargers

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Speaker 2: couldn't protect Justin Herbert because they have no offensive tackles. CJ.

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Speaker 2: thrown a pass in three years. So these all played

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Speaker 2: never scored more than eighteen points in any of those games.

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Speaker 2: the Patriots that have been in more Super Bowls than

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Speaker 2: any other tie with the Steelers for the most super

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Speaker 2: Bowl wins. By the way, they are now alone with

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Speaker 2: super Bowl losses with six they are number one in

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Speaker 2: by six wins. But you know, there's a sense of

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Speaker 2: all right, Drake may had a bad day, it's a

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Speaker 2: learning experience. But I go back to Super Bowl nineteen

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Speaker 2: when a much better, much more elite quarterback Dan Marino

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Speaker 2: never expected that in his second year that would be

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Speaker 2: his one Super Bowl appearance. Should we after what you've

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Speaker 2: seen and being around the Patriots during that Super Bowl week,

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Speaker 2: should we get a sense that this was an aberration

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Speaker 2: now the team to beat in the AFC.

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Speaker 4: I think it could be somewhere in between.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if they're the team to beat yet

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Speaker 3: You have a really good coach in Mike Frabele who

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Speaker 3: can get the best out of his players. I do

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Speaker 3: still think Drake may is a really good young quarterback.

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Speaker 3: He hit a terrible Super Bowl, he did not have

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Speaker 3: a great playoffs, but I still think he's a good

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Speaker 3: So I don't think it's an aberration. I think there

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Speaker 3: will be competitive and they'll continue to be competitive. But

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Speaker 3: I do not think they've solidified themselves yet as the

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Speaker 3: they to me probably were the best team had they

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Speaker 3: had a healthy quarterback. The Bills also completely melted down.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Josh Allen had a melt down in that game. Now,

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Speaker 3: I think what remains to be seen is can Josh

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Speaker 3: Allen overcome Josh Allen. What we've seen in the playoffs

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Speaker 3: time and time again is Josh Allen does not step up,

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Speaker 3: and sometimes he steps up as the game goes on.

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Speaker 3: But I go to last year against the Chiefs where

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Speaker 3: he had that really shaky first quarter. It was really

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Speaker 3: if he can? The Bills are still formidable. Of course,

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Speaker 3: they've tremendous defensive issues. So I don't know that there

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Speaker 4: But I do believe the.

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Speaker 3: Patriots will continue to be competitive and they have a

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Speaker 2: Well, one thing, they will not have next year's easiest

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Speaker 2: the door. Well, and again they stuck up on some people,

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Speaker 2: certainly early in the year. No one really you know,

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Speaker 2: you looked at the Patriots on your schedule to say,

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Speaker 2: all right, that's a w And it wasn't. We said

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Speaker 2: this before the game. I asked this question, are either

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Speaker 2: one of these quarterbacks, Drake may or Sam Darnold even

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Speaker 2: among the top five quarterbacks in their own conference? So

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Speaker 2: on the AFC side, I sited Mahomes, Allen, Lamar Jackson,

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Speaker 2: Joe Burrow, justin Herbert. There's five right there. Would you

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Speaker 2: say Drake May is better than any of those guys?

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Speaker 4: No, not yet.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't okay that, And he may never be. I

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Speaker 3: don't think he's the roths talent.

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Speaker 2: The NFC side, I had Matthew Stafford, I had Jared Goff,

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Speaker 2: I had Dak Prescott, I had Caleb Williams. And what

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Speaker 2: was the other quarterback that I listed ahead of him?

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Speaker 4: Rock Party?

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Speaker 2: Well, Rock Party was the list. I mean there was

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Speaker 2: that argument there. I guess it really came down to,

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Speaker 2: you know, and Jaden Daniels could be if he wasn't hurt,

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Speaker 2: you know. I mean, Sam Darnold is exactly the core.

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Speaker 2: What we saw in the Super Bowl I thought was

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Speaker 2: closer to what Sam Darnold actually is. He exceeded expectations

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Speaker 2: in that ANFC Championship game against the Rams, but it

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Speaker 2: was a familiar opponent and he and Clint Kubiak obviously

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Speaker 2: had a great play calling day because they had made

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Speaker 2: the adjustments to make him more proficient. But against New

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Speaker 2: England he was really average and his the big, the

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Speaker 2: big shiny moment for him, I mean, nineteen to thirty eight,

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Speaker 2: that's a lot of incomplete passes, but no turnovers, didn't

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Speaker 2: have any turnovers in the postseason. That's who Sam Darnold is.

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Speaker 2: beautiful Saturday Valentine's Day, spreading the love. So you should

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Speaker 4: That somebody here might be in Indianapolis for the Final four.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully that's Indianapolis. I have covered five final fours in Indianapolis.

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Speaker 6: So Hi, Tracy, Hi Isaac?

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Speaker 2: How are you so, Isaagin?

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Speaker 6: Just like you? Tracy surviving?

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Speaker 6: Oh it's been twenty years.

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Speaker 2: Give it a rest with this show way, I want

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Speaker 2: to see if you would have put up with this. Okay,

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Speaker 2: all right, So we had two rooms, there were three

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Speaker 2: Thank you?

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Speaker 7: You didn't tell me what to do with a true

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Speaker 4: He was doing his job.

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Speaker 7: Breaking news could have happened at one o'clock in the

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Speaker 2: Well that's great, you can do it all you want,

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Speaker 7: I thought he was going to bring up our multiple

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Speaker 2: Well, Steak and Shake is always good. We had some

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Speaker 3: I'm going to be in indian next week for Combine,

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Speaker 2: I love Indy. I love Indianapolis for a big event

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Speaker 2: there for the Super Bowl obviously that was the Giants

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Speaker 4: Best, well hopefully I will be their fingers crossed.

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Speaker 2: All right, quickly, I want to get into the Seahawks.

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Speaker 2: Seahawks team wasn't just the best team this year, one

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Speaker 2: of the three best Super Bowl winners of all time.

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Speaker 2: So based on that, now I know they're going to

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Speaker 2: obviously need a new offensive coordinator. I think that's going

439
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Speaker 2: to be a big hole to fill for them, because

440
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Speaker 2: obviously McDonald wus the defense. But that being said, this

441
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Speaker 2: Seahawks team was historic and should put them in a

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Speaker 2: great position to be able to build on for not

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Speaker 2: just next season, but years to come.

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Speaker 4: Do you buy it one hundred percent?

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Speaker 3: Because I watched the Seahawks team play live three times

446
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Speaker 3: this season and the first time I watched them play

447
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Speaker 3: live was Week one and then again in Week eighteen

448
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Speaker 3: in the Divisional round. And the part of the reason

449
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Speaker 3: I believe that is that Week one team is not

450
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Speaker 3: the same team that was in Week eighteen. It was

451
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Speaker 3: not as good. It was good, but not this good.

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Speaker 3: And as the season went on and you see what

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Speaker 3: they did. They are so efficient, They are complete on

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Speaker 3: all sides of the ball.

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Speaker 4: They are incredibly well coached.

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Speaker 3: That defense is one of the best defenses I have

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Speaker 3: ever seen. They have jas said, and you know it

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Speaker 3: kills me to say it because he's no how a

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Speaker 3: state guy. He's but he is a talent and he

460
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Speaker 3: is a star. Rashid Shaheed ended up being a big

461
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Speaker 3: pickup for them. Obviously, they've Kenneth Walker, Sharbonay coming back

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Speaker 3: from the injury.

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Speaker 4: This is a really good football.

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Speaker 3: Team and they've built and I know this is a

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Speaker 3: buzzword and everyone called cliche. They've built a culture there

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Speaker 3: and that culture is not going away anytime soon. And

467
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Speaker 3: Mike McDonald is such a good football coach. And whoever

468
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Speaker 3: the new offensive coordinator is going to be, you're going

469
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Speaker 3: to get the cream of the crop, because who doesn't

470
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Speaker 3: want to go there.

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Speaker 2: I love that you use the word culture, thank you,

472
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Speaker 2: because that is the most important word for any sports franchise.

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Speaker 2: You have to establish a culture. The New England Patriots

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Speaker 2: a little short on talent, but they have the culture

475
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Speaker 2: and they brought a coach that understood the culture. Their

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Speaker 2: culture is we miss We make mistakes like everyone else.

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Speaker 2: The difference between us and everybody else's we cut our

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Speaker 2: mistakes immediately. Yeah, we don't hold out hope that all right,

479
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Speaker 2: we made a mistake, but maybe give it a couple

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Speaker 2: more years. They don't do that. They brought Mayo in

481
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Speaker 2: to be the head coach. He was ahead of his

482
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Speaker 2: skis and they didn't say, well, give the he's a

483
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Speaker 2: young coach, give them a couple of years. They didn't

484
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Speaker 2: do that. He'll get another opportunity down the road. We

485
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Speaker 2: should have hired a Vaibel in the beginning. Rabel understood

486
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Speaker 2: the culture that starts with Bob Kraft. Everyone's crying about Belichick,

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Speaker 2: not in the Hall of Fame. Bob Kraft lawns in

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Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame because he's the one that established

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Speaker 2: the culture that has allowed the Patriots to be in

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Speaker 2: twelve Super Bowls. And he proved that post Belichick by

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Speaker 2: making the move he needed to make to bring in

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Speaker 2: a coach that understood the culture of the Patriots and

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Speaker 2: had one of the greatest single season turnarounds of all time.

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Speaker 3: And I think the word culture is so important because

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Speaker 3: some teams cut their mistakes. They do cut their mistakes

496
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Speaker 3: too fast. Teams that are firing their coach here after year,

497
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Speaker 3: those are bad teams. There's a reason to say bad,

498
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Speaker 3: but it is because there is not a culture there.

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Speaker 3: There's just it's like willy nilly, just hire this guy

500
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Speaker 3: and bringing that guy. Oh it didn't work, Now we're

501
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 3: going to fire this guy. But the Patriots do have

502
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Speaker 3: an established culture. The Fort Natters have an established culture.

503
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Speaker 3: The Rams haven't established culture. So when they have to

504
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Speaker 3: make changes in the middle of the season, the ram

505
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Speaker 3: firing their special teams coach.

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Speaker 4: In the middle of the season.

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Speaker 3: Those teams can do that because there's that strength of

508
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Speaker 3: culture around them and that is a huge thing, and

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Speaker 3: the Seattle Seahawks have that in spades. Mike McDonald's Michigan guy,

510
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Speaker 3: govlu he was the defensive coordinator there. He's wrote Jay Harbaugh,

511
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Speaker 3: another Michigan guy. So I'm like, really big into the

512
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Speaker 3: Seahawks right now. But they have established a culture, they

513
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Speaker 3: have built a team, and you can feel it. So

514
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Speaker 3: this is the thing that's kind of interesting. I covered

515
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Speaker 3: the forty nine ers when the Seahawks are really really good.

516
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Speaker 3: I covered the four hours when the Seahawks were had

517
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Speaker 3: those years of not being very good, and covering them

518
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Speaker 3: now you can feel it in the building.

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Speaker 2: There's a difference, unblieable. I mean everyone. I mean, I

520
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Speaker 2: was like most people when you basically replaced Geno Smith

521
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Speaker 2: with Sam Darneld, do you like that's a lateral move,

522
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Speaker 2: that's I'm not gonna make any better? But you underscore

523
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Speaker 2: what McDonald did. I mean, obviously defensively, he's an absolute

524
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Speaker 2: freaking genius right now, third youngest coach now to win

525
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Speaker 2: the Super Bowl and they will, and I agree with you,

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Speaker 2: they will build on that. All right. Speaking of culture,

527
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Speaker 2: let's find out what is trending right now, because this

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Speaker 2: is a man that has a level of culture that

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Speaker 2: I've been eyewitnessed to for so many years. Now. It's

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Speaker 2: really when I harken back to the two thousand and

531
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Speaker 2: six Final four, that's twenty years ago. I mean, that's

532
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Speaker 2: where were you five? How old were you?

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Speaker 7: I actually was five, and you look exactly the same

534
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Speaker 7: while I'm on death's door over here.

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Speaker 2: Now that's not true, but it's you know.

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Speaker 7: By the way, I would like to take this opportunity

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Speaker 7: publicly for the first time to congratulate you on your

538
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Speaker 7: recent induction into the Southern California Sports Broadcasters Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 2: Well, thank you very much, Isaac. And by the way,

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Speaker 2: Isaac is a big part of that, and he begged,

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Speaker 2: begged for years for the Board of Directors to finally

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Speaker 2: get in so he wouldn't have to hear me complain

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Speaker 2: about the fact that.

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Speaker 7: Actually you are you are being modest. I was the

545
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Speaker 7: one vehemently arguing against you. Is all right, just to

546
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Speaker 7: drive the nail in even further. Seven to twenty four

547
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Speaker 7: left to play, at the second half in at Arbor,

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Speaker 7: we have number two Michigan now leading UCLA seventy to

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Speaker 7: fifty one.

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Speaker 2: It was a two point game in a half time,

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Speaker 2: forty to thirty eight, so that's thirty to thirteen in

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Speaker 2: the second half leads. I'm telling you, well, this is

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Speaker 2: not a surprise. I didn't think they'd win today. They

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Speaker 2: do have to win though, on the road against either

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Speaker 2: Michigan State or Illinois. They want to make sure they

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Speaker 2: get into art.

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Speaker 7: I'm hoping saying, don't kill the messenger now. Earlier we

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Speaker 7: had number four Duke beating twenty at rank Clemson sixty

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Speaker 7: seven to fifty four. In Major League Baseball, the San

560
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Speaker 7: Diego Padres signing outfielder Nick Castillanos two days after he

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Speaker 7: was released by the Phillies. Padres also signing right hander

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Speaker 7: Griffin Canning. Today at the Winter Olympics, American speed skater

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Speaker 7: Jordan Stoles won the gold medal in the five hundred

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Speaker 7: meters for his second gold medal of the Olympics. He

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Speaker 7: won the thousand meters on Wednesday. Finally, Stephen Tracy some

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Speaker 7: controversy at the curling venue as Sweden's Oscar Ericsson accused

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Speaker 7: Canada's Mark Kennedy of double touching the curling stone, which

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Speaker 7: is apparently illegal. Their argument got picked up by the

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Speaker 7: microphones on the Swedish telecast.

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Speaker 6: Listen, who's doing it?

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Speaker 2: You don't know it who?

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Speaker 6: It's a couple.

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Speaker 4: It's a couple.

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Speaker 1: Who.

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Speaker 2: I haven't done it once?

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Speaker 1: You can off you haven't done it once.

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Speaker 6: I haven't done it once.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'll show you a video after the game. How

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Speaker 2: about you walking around on my peeling last day and

580
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Speaker 2: dankson around the house here?

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Speaker 8: How about that oscar to show to you a video

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Speaker 8: you were down here?

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Speaker 2: Who knew that.

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Speaker 6: Curling could be so exciting?

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Speaker 3: Back to you, we need a curling hard knocks. I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna say it right now, curling hard harmstones.

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Speaker 2: There we go. We consider curlers athletes.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm watching them right now.

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Speaker 2: Well, I know what's a sport. The question is are

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Speaker 2: these athletes? Now? The one tricky thing is they're not

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Speaker 2: on skates. They're in shoes on ice. That could be

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Speaker 2: a little tricky, just maneuvering your feet on ice when

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Speaker 2: you're not wearing skates.

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Speaker 6: They got to handle that broom.

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Speaker 3: That's an athlete. You put me on ice and shoes

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Speaker 3: or skates. It ends badly because I am not an athlete.

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Speaker 3: These are athletes, all right.

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Speaker 2: So they are athletes, all right. Very good, Thank you, Isaac.

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Speaker 2: We'll check in with you a little bit later on.

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Speaker 2: By the way, if you miss any of today's show

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Speaker 2: get off the air. So we're here in the LA

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Speaker 2: area doing our show today and it is All Star

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Speaker 2: weekend in the NBA. So, Tracy, I again I harken

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Speaker 2: back to old school way, old school and my history.

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Speaker 2: I've always been an NBA fan. I fell in love

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Speaker 2: with the Lakers at a very young age. Jerry West

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Speaker 2: was my greatest hero as a kid, and then obviously

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Speaker 2: I was there for all showtime. I mean, I've seen

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Speaker 2: it all and I love the NBA. Basketball as a

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Speaker 2: kid especially was my number one sport and my younger

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Speaker 2: son's number one sport for sure. So here's the problem

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Speaker 2: with not just the NBA All Star Game, but any

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Speaker 2: of these all star games, whether it's the Pro Bowl,

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Speaker 2: when you have to resort to gimmicks, yes, it's stop.

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Speaker 4: MLB All Start. Really is the only one that does.

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Speaker 2: It is because you really can't change. You know, you

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Speaker 2: could play no defense in an NBA All Star Game,

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Speaker 2: or play you know, touch football in a Pro Bowl.

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00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 2: But in baseball, it's still a pitcher and a hitter.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's basically the game. And so it sounded

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Speaker 2: like a pitcher's gonna throw eighty miles an hour to

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Speaker 2: watch a guy hit at five hundred feet. So you

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Speaker 2: still have just the makeup of the game lends itself

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Speaker 2: to being the All Star Game. So you know, yesterday

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Speaker 2: they had the Future Stars Game. I'm not quite sure

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Speaker 2: what that thing's about. They had a celebrity game that

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Speaker 2: actually included former NBA players.

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Speaker 4: And Mookie Betts coached the winning team.

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Speaker 2: Yeah he did, absolutely, and I love Mokie. But you know, again,

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Speaker 2: and today we got the three point shooting you know,

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Speaker 2: I was the first time they had the three point

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Speaker 2: shooting contest. Larry Bird won. So you're like, okay, here's

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Speaker 2: the biggest start in the league, and he's showing why

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Speaker 2: we don't get that anymore a lot of times. Again, No, but,

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Speaker 2: and then don't get me started on the dunk contest.

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Speaker 2: That thing is played out long beyondest time. And then

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Speaker 2: we get the actual game itself, which I don't know

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Speaker 2: what it is. It's multiple games. Last year was a

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Speaker 2: train wreck. I expect the same. They wanted to try

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Speaker 2: to create, you know, the international players versus the America.

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Speaker 2: Come on, can we just play a game? It used

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Speaker 2: to be. I'm going to tell you, Tracy, this is

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Speaker 2: how the NBA All Star Game used to be, and

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Speaker 2: it was must watch. Top stars of the Eastern Conference,

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Speaker 2: top stars of the Western Conference playing a real game.

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Speaker 2: And the reason they played a real game is you're

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Speaker 2: matching your best skill. You want to see how do

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Speaker 2: I shape up against the best players in the league,

655
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Speaker 2: and you're all alpha dogs, and you want to prove

656
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Speaker 2: I'm the guy. Kobe loved it. Kobe was a huge

657
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Speaker 2: fan of the All Star Game because he wanted to

658
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Speaker 2: show off I am the alpha dog. And then they

659
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Speaker 2: just sort of let it slip away. And I think

660
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Speaker 2: it's unfortunate because it's an opportunity especially the week after

661
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Speaker 2: the Super Bowl, because this is when people start to

662
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 2: you know, all, right, where are we with the NBA season?

663
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Speaker 2: I haven't really been watching. We're halfway through, and it's

664
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Speaker 2: the great opportunity to really showcase your superstars. Instead we

665
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 2: get some kind of gimmick. You know, I don't even

666
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 2: know what this is coming up tomorrow. So but where

667
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Speaker 2: do you and specifically on the NBA All Star Game?

668
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Speaker 2: Is it fixable or is it something that you can

669
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Speaker 2: just say goodbye and you really wouldn't miss it?

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Speaker 3: Well, so I have questions. One question to start the change?

671
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Speaker 3: Was the change an injury concerned thing that they didn't want? It?

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Speaker 4: Was that what it is?

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think I don't think you can do

674
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Speaker 3: away with it because, and this is just being very

675
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Speaker 3: honest from a business perspective, the NBA cannot afford to

676
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Speaker 3: have to not have some sort of All Star.

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Speaker 4: Weekend going on.

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00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 3: So do they go back to the original the best

679
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Speaker 3: against the best?

680
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 4: Is that no longer doable?

681
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Speaker 3: In an NBA where stars get sit for sat for

682
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 3: several games a season to make sure they're fresh for

683
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Speaker 3: the playoffs, is that doable?

684
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Speaker 4: I don't know, but I don't think they can do nothing.

685
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Speaker 3: I don't think they can just have a break where

686
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Speaker 3: it's like, well they're gonna go on vacation and we'll

687
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Speaker 3: see you next week.

688
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Speaker 4: They have to do something. But I don't know what

689
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Speaker 4: the answer is.

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Speaker 3: I think the easy, simple answer is go back to

691
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Speaker 3: how it was the best against the But that's simple

692
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 3: and theory just may not be possible.

693
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Speaker 2: In today's NBA, training for athletes has never been bigger,

694
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Speaker 2: that's true, more effective, that's at least in theory, than

695
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Speaker 2: it is now. And yet we have more injuries in

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Speaker 2: all sports than we've ever had before. Yes, I mean,

697
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 2: for instance, we talk about pitchers in baseball, so they

698
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 2: pitch less, Okay, the idea is they pitch less, and

699
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Speaker 2: yet we have more guys have Tommy John surgery than

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Speaker 2: ever before in the NBA. I mean, listen Michael Jordan's

701
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,800
Speaker 2: last year with the Washington Wizards. He was forty years old.

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Speaker 2: He played in all eighty two games.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, do you think they're.

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Speaker 2: No, they just don't want to play.

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Speaker 4: They just don't want to play. But that's not why

706
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Speaker 4: they're getting hurt.

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Speaker 2: Well, as far as the injuries concerned, Yeah, if we

708
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Speaker 2: have modern medicine and the greatest training of all time.

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Speaker 2: There should not be as many injuries in sports as

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Speaker 2: we have now. It's an epidemic. It is. And again,

711
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Speaker 2: if I'm an employer and I am paying an insane

712
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 2: amount of money for these athletes only to have them

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Speaker 2: sit on the bench, I want something to change, like immediately,

714
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Speaker 2: because I'm not getting my bang for my dollar. All right.

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Speaker 2: Coming up on the other side, we also have the

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00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 2: start of spring training in baseball right now. How excited

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00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 2: is Tracy so excited? I know you are. I love baseball,

718
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Speaker 2: even if this will be the last baseball season of

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Speaker 2: all time. We'll explain the possibilities. This is Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio, Steve Harvin, Tracy

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Speaker 2: Sandler here on this Saturday. And for Jonas Knox today, Shay,

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Speaker 2: have you talked to Jonas today?

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Speaker 3: Are?

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Speaker 2: I mean Jonas works all the time. I mean he

725
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Speaker 2: sort of took after me, he said way back in

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Speaker 2: the day. Is there a reason Jonas? Is he okay?

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Speaker 2: Everything good?

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Speaker 9: Or what's he's sitting a well deserved break? I think, no, no, no,

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Speaker 9: I've got I've got the text from him. I can

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Speaker 9: actually be authority, he says straight up quote, I have

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Speaker 9: a family thing I cannot get out of. So Jonas,

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Speaker 9: who is someone who likes to work quite a bit,

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Speaker 9: and I something tells me he got read and ultimatum.

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Speaker 9: Considering today is Valentine's I would imagine, and yeah, no Jonas,

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Speaker 9: Jonas is preoccupied. Well, for all those people that like

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Speaker 9: to send hate messages to Jonas, which he loves to

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Speaker 9: read on his show.

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Speaker 6: This way to do it.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, you can still do that today even if he's

740
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 2: not here. Not balls are equal, thank you. How many

741
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 2: times can you get kicked in the nuts before you

742
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:50,399
Speaker 2: got to sit down and take a breath. That's all

743
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 2: sounded really inappropriate. Yes, So anyway you could still do

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00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:56,879
Speaker 2: that for Jonas. I'm sure he'll appreciate it, especially here

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00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 2: on this Valentine's Day.

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Speaker 6: You can rip my ass.

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Speaker 2: Yes, thank you. So Tracy Baseball, you're a baseball fan.

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Speaker 2: I'm a baseball fan. And here here's good news for

749
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Speaker 2: the game of baseball. A new generation has embraced the game.

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00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 2: The changes they made, and I'm you know, I'm one

751
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 2: of those old school you know guys. The pitch clock

752
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 2: was brilliant. The changes they made made the game better.

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Speaker 2: So I get Baseball credit for that, and they have

754
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Speaker 2: now gotten a younger generation of fans of this game.

755
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Speaker 2: What they don't want to do is screw it up

756
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Speaker 2: when they have an opportunity to really take this next level.

757
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 2: So here's the dynamic of where we stand as we

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Speaker 2: go into the twenty sixth season. Everyone's talking about the Dodgers.

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00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 2: Stop talking about the Dodgers. The Dodgers aren't breaking any rules.

760
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 2: They're paying the price if you want to blow through

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Speaker 2: the cap. They paid over one hundred million dollars in

762
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Speaker 2: luxury fees under the current rules. They have the right

763
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Speaker 2: to do that, and they're taking advantage of the rules.

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Speaker 2: This will all end in December when the Collective Bargaining

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Speaker 2: Agreement ends. And Tracy the idea in nineteen ninety four.

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Speaker 2: I was doing radio during that insane I mean, just

767
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Speaker 2: imagine you're going through the season. Everything is moving along,

768
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 2: and you know there's something lurking, but ah, we've at

769
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Speaker 2: least seen some stoppages, maybe you know, a little SCUBBA

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Speaker 2: cancel the postseason. Not only canceled the postseason, but they

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Speaker 2: didn't even start the next year until eighteen games.

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Speaker 6: End of the year.

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Speaker 2: They miss games at the start of the next year.

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Speaker 2: It was absolutely unreal. But as bad as that was,

775
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Speaker 2: this looks like it's going to be worse because it

776
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:49,240
Speaker 2: comes down to two things. The owners want a salary cap,

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00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 2: and the players say, over our dead bodies, right. So,

778
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Speaker 2: and one thing I've always said about the Baseball players Union,

779
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,280
Speaker 2: it's not only the best union in all of sports,

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00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:04,399
Speaker 2: it is the best union anywhere. They never ever get

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00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 2: somebody out of line. They are an absolute, ironclad unit

782
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,839
Speaker 2: and they do not differentiate from that. So I hate

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00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 2: to say it, but where we sit right now, enjoy

784
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Speaker 2: the twenty twenty six season because twenty twenty seven realistically

785
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Speaker 2: may never happen.

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Speaker 3: It may not, and it's too bad because listen, I

787
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Speaker 3: don't own a baseball team. I am not a billionaire,

788
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Speaker 3: so I think who have All these owners have a

789
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Speaker 3: right to spend money. However they want to spend money,

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Speaker 3: but they want a salary cap because they don't want

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Speaker 3: to spend the same money that teams like the Dodgers

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Speaker 3: are spending. And it's not just the Dodgers. I mean

793
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Speaker 3: there are other teams that have Mets are right there.

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Speaker 3: The Mets are right there. I mean there are teams

795
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Speaker 3: with the Phillies aren't exactly going on a budget, like.

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Speaker 2: There are lots of dislieve in Toronto.

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Speaker 3: It even Toronto one hundred percent, and so I think

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Speaker 3: that is what is unfortunate, and it's just too bad.

799
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Speaker 4: And that's it's okay.

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Speaker 3: You get to spend your money how you want to.

801
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 3: You own a team, it's up to you. And I

802
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 3: know there's the argument when we're smaller market and we

803
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Speaker 3: can't afford it.

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Speaker 4: I think a lot of people can.

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Speaker 3: It's a choice, but we may not have a twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty seven season. And I am of the opinion that

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Speaker 3: I don't blame the players for that.

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Speaker 4: I would blame the owners.

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Speaker 2: Quick question, if we do cancel the season, NHL loss

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Speaker 2: an entire season, entire season, how do you think that

811
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Speaker 2: younger generation would react to that? Would they take sides?

812
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 2: Would they just say, ah, I can live without baseball.

813
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Speaker 2: It's hard to say when it's a six month sport.

814
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Speaker 2: So how do you think a younger generation would react

815
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Speaker 2: to it and lockdown to the baseball season?

816
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Speaker 4: I think out of sight, out of mind.

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Speaker 3: You have a generation that's we can't watch videos, but

818
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Speaker 3: all of us now can't watch videos on Instagram or

819
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Speaker 3: on any social platform that are more than thirty seconds.

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Speaker 3: I mean it's it's and for gen Z it's even

821
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Speaker 3: less so out of sight, out of mind.

822
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Speaker 4: What's next? But what is next? What's going to fill

823
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 4: that void?

824
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 2: Well? What is next? As much more coming up here

825
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 2: as we continue to talk about all start weekend in

826
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Speaker 2: the NBA. This is Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

828
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Speaker 2: Rolling along here on a big Saturday here on Fox

829
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Speaker 2: Sports Saturday in for Jonas Knock, Steve Hartman, Tracy Sandler

830
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Speaker 2: with you on this Valentine's Day.

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Speaker 4: We're loving it.

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00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 2: We are loving it. And Tracy, of course very active

833
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Speaker 2: on social media, decked out in her Valentine's Day gear today.

834
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Speaker 3: See Steve loves hosting with me because I make them

835
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Speaker 3: do videos and photos. And so I'm going to say,

836
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 3: you love hosting with me, even though you may not.

837
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 2: Actually our bosses love that you are here with me

838
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 2: because Hartman doesn't do any of this stuff and he

839
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 2: needs to do this stuff. And thank you Tracy for

840
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 2: quitting me here to he appreciate that. All right, So

841
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,839
Speaker 2: you know it is that I get it. I get

842
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 2: I get this whole idea about football. We go through

843
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 2: this every single year, so you have the withdrawal paints

844
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 2: of the football season being over. You squeeze it out

845
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 2: all the way through the Super Bowl mm hmm, and

846
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:17,919
Speaker 2: then it's gone, and then it's gone. It is sad,

847
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 2: and it's funny because this year on our end Zone Radio,

848
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 2: this was vj's first year of doing end Zone Radio. Okay,

849
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Speaker 2: Rich Hornberger's schedule just got too crazy and VJ did

850
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 2: a tremendous job this year. But I told him week one,

851
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 2: I said, Okay, first of all, you're gonna have a

852
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 2: blast because all we're doing is watching games and talking

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00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 2: about the games. I mean, it's like you're sitting in

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00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 2: your living room and we're there to describe, you know,

855
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Speaker 2: what's going on at eight games, nine games all going

856
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 2: out at the same time. It's like a dream job.

857
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 2: It literally is a dream. But the problem is it's

858
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Speaker 2: just like it's over, Like yeah, it's like week one.

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00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 2: You're like, wow, we got eighteen weeks and.

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Speaker 3: It just it flies and it feels like it's it

861
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 3: takes so long to get there. And the thing with

862
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 3: football season is the idea of it off season is

863
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 3: kind of a fallacy. So to speak because now we

864
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 3: have the combine in a week, and then a couple

865
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Speaker 3: weeks after that we have free agency, and then a

866
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Speaker 3: few weeks after that we've owners meetings.

867
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Speaker 2: Well stop there. We also had to fill ten vacancies

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Speaker 2: for head.

869
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,799
Speaker 3: Coaching, and the ten vacancies for head coaching. It's just

870
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 3: we go through all this stuff and then it's the draft,

871
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,280
Speaker 3: and then we're communicamp a mini camp, and it feels

872
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:24,240
Speaker 3: like all this it's like almost football.

873
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 4: It's a football tease.

874
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:27,840
Speaker 3: There's something to talk about and you feel like you're involved,

875
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:30,360
Speaker 3: but it's almost football, and what are we getting to football?

876
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,879
Speaker 4: And then we get there and it doesn't flies by.

877
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 2: Here. Here's where I think a lot of these sports

878
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:40,919
Speaker 2: are making a huge mistake. You know, I have three

879
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 2: children and they're all very different. So as a parent,

880
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 2: and I have adult children now, but as a parent,

881
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,359
Speaker 2: you know, I have to sort of identify that there's

882
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 2: not one formula to fit all three, right, so you know,

883
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 2: one has to do this, one has to do that,

884
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 2: one has to do that. When I hear about like

885
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 2: the NBA or Major League Baseball using the formula that

886
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 2: has helped make the NFL the success that it is

887
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 2: the number one sport in this country. They're making a mistake.

888
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 2: Stop it. Do what has made you best. And I

889
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 2: talk about the NBA, and I talk about Major League Baseball.

890
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 2: Stop comparing yourself to the NFL. Well the NFL. Look

891
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:32,840
Speaker 2: pe Rosell, who for thirty years was the commissioner of

892
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:36,800
Speaker 2: the NFL and probably the single most important person ever

893
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,879
Speaker 2: in league history. And I'll explain why. So when he

894
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:43,359
Speaker 2: took over as the commissioner in nineteen sixty, you know,

895
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 2: the NFL was nothing. I can tell you as a

896
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:49,879
Speaker 2: kid as in the sixties, college football ruled huh. In fact,

897
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 2: Street and Smith didn't even have a separate NFL book.

898
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 2: They would just tag NFL at the bottom. And then

899
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:58,919
Speaker 2: you had a rival league, the AFL, starting that same year.

900
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 2: So he's with the idea of this. But the one

901
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:06,400
Speaker 2: thing he knew in order for our league to have

902
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:10,359
Speaker 2: any chance to survive, we have to make it competitive.

903
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 2: And so he got the owners to agree in the

904
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 2: sixties that whatever network television they were able to garner,

905
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 2: any money through network television would be shared equally. So

906
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:28,319
Speaker 2: the Wellington Marras of the New York Giants agreed that

907
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 2: we will take an egal amount to the green Bay Packers.

908
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 2: How else is green Bay going to survive? They can't

909
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:37,840
Speaker 2: survive against New York or Chicago or LA. But that

910
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:41,359
Speaker 2: was put into place back in the sixties, and the

911
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:45,320
Speaker 2: owners have maintained that all these years. Understand the dynamic

912
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:49,280
Speaker 2: of the salary cap in the NFL. The salary cap

913
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 2: is basically the exact amount of money that each NFL

914
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:56,840
Speaker 2: team gets as they're split from the network television. So

915
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 2: in other words, there's no money out of pocket, right,

916
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 2: it's a wash. Where you do have to spend money

917
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:07,319
Speaker 2: is on coaches or the development of your organization. That's

918
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 2: the difference between organizams. Some people spend the money, others don't.

919
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 2: But as far as the talent is plus the draft,

920
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 2: which is totally illegal, but a love whatever, you know,

921
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:18,879
Speaker 2: we'll just throw We'll just tell players where they're gonna play.

922
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 2: Can you imagine if they did drafts into every business, Like, okay,

923
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 2: you come out of college, you know you're a hot

924
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:27,319
Speaker 2: shot broadcaster, and they're like, okay, you've been drafted in

925
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 2: no knock on. Let's say des Moines, Iowa. And you're like,

926
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:31,879
Speaker 2: I don't want to live in des Moines. Well, that's

927
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 2: where you're gonna.

928
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 4: Have to four years.

929
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 2: For that four years, It's like, what I mean, it's

930
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 2: so illegal, but you know they get around that. But

931
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,919
Speaker 2: I mean, that's that if if if, if major League

932
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 2: Baseball is heading off the cliff and a potential strike

933
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 2: situation or a lockout from the owners, and the NBA

934
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 2: is still sort of struggling to get to that next level.

935
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 2: Stop with the comparisons to the NFL. Figure out what

936
00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 2: it is that is most appealing about your sport and

937
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 2: amplify it, sell your sport. Stop comparing yourself to the NFL.

938
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 4: What do you think?

939
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 3: I'm curious what would you say for the for NBA

940
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:15,319
Speaker 3: and Major League Baseball? What is the thing that is

941
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 3: most compelling about each that they should be focusing on.

942
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 2: Okay, so I mentioned earlier that Major League Baseball did

943
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 2: an upgrade by introducing the pitch clock, limiting limiting timeouts

944
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 2: because when you don't have a clock in a sport,

945
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 2: it can really slow down and it had you know,

946
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 2: games are over three hours too long. We got to

947
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 2: find a way to cut you know, eliminating tosses to

948
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 2: first base. There were there were simple measures to reduce

949
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 2: the time of the game very effective for the NBA.

950
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:52,720
Speaker 2: From my standpoint, someone that's watched the NBA for fifty

951
00:47:52,760 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 2: sixty years, the nature of the game is unappealing. The

952
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 2: Golden State Warriors, you know, and this was a behind

953
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 2: the scenes from the late great Jerry West. And they

954
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 2: had Steph Curry, and they had a young rookie named

955
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 2: Klay Thompson, and they recognized that, okay, this is our strength,

956
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 2: but they wanted to get They were shopping Klay Thomps

957
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:22,360
Speaker 2: around because we need a big and Jerry West stepped

958
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 2: in as an advisor and said, if you do that,

959
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 2: I literally will walk out the door. Because the strength

960
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 2: of this team moving forward are these two guards. Let

961
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 2: them fire away. You will have more success doing that

962
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 2: than imitating the other teams. We have a big and

963
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 2: this everything else. And obviously you had two of the

964
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:46,400
Speaker 2: greatest shooters in the history of the NBA winning championships.

965
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 2: And what happened. Everyone decided to follow the same hatter. Right,

966
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 2: you don't have Steph Curry, you don't have Klay Thompson.

967
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 2: And all we're watching is a bunch of teams standing

968
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 2: at the three point line fire nipsh Even their bigs

969
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 2: are doing that, and so the NBA has gotten away.

970
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:08,879
Speaker 2: If all I ask people is this, if you're if

971
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:11,839
Speaker 2: you're a critic of what I'm saying right now, say no, no, no,

972
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:16,799
Speaker 2: the NBA is great. Just YouTube an NBA game from

973
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 2: the nineteen eighties, Watch the Celtics and Lakers and the

974
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 2: style of play and how everyone was engaged in inside

975
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:26,400
Speaker 2: outside game, and tell me that that's not a more

976
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 2: appealing brand of basketball than we're seeing right now. So

977
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 2: much like Major League Baseball made changes to aesthetically make

978
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 2: the game more appealing, especially to a younger generation, I

979
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 2: think the NBA needs to take a hard look of

980
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 2: why people are not watching these games and make whatever

981
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 2: change does they have to make to make it a

982
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 2: more appealing product to watch.

983
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:55,400
Speaker 3: I also think it's interesting when you talk about the

984
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 3: league's selling what's what makes your league special, what makes

985
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 3: your league good, and not try to copy everything else.

986
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 4: I think you could take that to the team level.

987
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 4: That worked for the Warriors.

988
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 3: Because they had Clay. Like you said, they had Clay

989
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 3: Thompson and Steph Curry. It may not work for your

990
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 3: team because you don't have that. Do what's going to

991
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 3: make your team? And I think in all of these

992
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 3: leagues we see in the NFL, it's a copycat league,

993
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 3: and there are things you learn and glean and all

994
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:21,799
Speaker 3: of that, but take your personnel and I think not

995
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:23,319
Speaker 3: to keep going back to the Niners, but it's just

996
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:26,280
Speaker 3: the team I know best. Kyle Shanahan changed the mindset

997
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 3: this offseason. It was not super Bowl or bust. He

998
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 3: brought everybody over to his house during OTA's and said,

999
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 3: we're not going to be that anymore this year. And

1000
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 3: he knew he's got a lot of young guys. There

1001
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:38,360
Speaker 3: was a lot of turnover. We're just going to be

1002
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 3: the best us we can be every week. And it

1003
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 3: sounds cheesy and all of that, but it worked. And

1004
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:44,239
Speaker 3: the reason they didn't fall apart when they lose Nick Bosa,

1005
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 3: and the reason they did fall apart when they lose

1006
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 3: Fred Warner and when Kittles out for however many games

1007
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 3: five games to start the season, Brock pretty lose is

1008
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 3: because it wasn't well, now we're just done and it's

1009
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:56,440
Speaker 3: over because we can't go to the super Bowl. It

1010
00:50:56,520 --> 00:51:00,359
Speaker 3: was very next man up mentality. And I say that

1011
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 3: because I think Kyle Shanahan.

1012
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 4: Is really good.

1013
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 3: Obviously, his scheme, and he's a tremendous coach, but he

1014
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 3: also knows his personnel and he knows his players, and

1015
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 3: he knows how to get the best out of them.

1016
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 3: And I think that is what teams really need to do.

1017
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 3: You can't look over there and say, oh, well they're

1018
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 3: doing that, we're going to do that too, because because

1019
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:18,360
Speaker 3: we can do that. No, maybe you can't because you

1020
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 3: don't have their personnel. Know what you got go to

1021
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 3: the strengths of your team and make that your best team.

1022
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 3: So I don't even think it's just the league level.

1023
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 3: You got to bring it down to the team level.

1024
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 2: Well and in using the Golden State Warriors as an example, Yeah,

1025
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 2: and now they decided we're gonna do we have an

1026
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 2: opportunity with these two guys, the Splash Brothers, to change

1027
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 2: what everybody else is doing. Mm hmm not actually no,

1028
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:44,840
Speaker 2: they're winning.

1029
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 4: Seventy three games exactly.

1030
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:48,840
Speaker 2: It is like, you can't do that without a dominant

1031
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:50,440
Speaker 2: big right, Yeah, you can't.

1032
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 4: You can if you have the right personnel.

1033
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:54,400
Speaker 3: So you look at them and, oh, they did what

1034
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 3: was going to be best for them, So what should

1035
00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 3: we do?

1036
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:57,839
Speaker 4: So and it sounds kind of.

1037
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 3: Cheesy and a little bit cliche, but it it is

1038
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 3: the Really, it's the same thing you just said about

1039
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 3: your kids. You can't for each of your three kids

1040
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 3: that are different, you can't do the same thing for

1041
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:10,400
Speaker 3: each of them. And I think that's really and important.

1042
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 2: Well, life lessen and getting back to the Patriots again,

1043
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:18,360
Speaker 2: an organization that's had incredible success and bounce back in

1044
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 2: a big way this year even if they came up

1045
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:24,240
Speaker 2: short in the super Bowl, because they have a philosophy.

1046
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:27,800
Speaker 2: And I've mentioned this before, but it bears repeating because

1047
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 2: I wish how other people listen what you need to do,

1048
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:36,360
Speaker 2: and you mentioned what the forty nine ers did. First

1049
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 2: of all, when you're evaluating a talent, you have to

1050
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 2: actually evaluate their talent. Yes, what is it you do best.

1051
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 2: Once you've identified what they do best, here's a novel idea,

1052
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 2: let's put them in a position to succeed. That's right,

1053
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:58,279
Speaker 2: We're actually going to use what they do best, and

1054
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 2: we're going to put him in a position to do

1055
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:06,759
Speaker 2: what they do best. You think, doesn't everybody nobody? They

1056
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:10,440
Speaker 2: always say, all right, we always talk about these bus quarterbacks. Right,

1057
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 2: the guy was a superstar in college. He comes to

1058
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:16,760
Speaker 2: the NFL, and he's a bus usually because they're like, Okay,

1059
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 2: we know you did this in college, we want you

1060
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:20,839
Speaker 2: to do this.

1061
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's and it affects guys, and it's not

1062
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:26,400
Speaker 3: really fair to the athlete.

1063
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:27,439
Speaker 4: It's not even fair to the team.

1064
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 3: If you are going to draft a guy to do

1065
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:32,319
Speaker 3: what he's does best and then bring him in and

1066
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 3: be like, well, actually we're going to have you do

1067
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:37,240
Speaker 3: it a little bit different, it's not good for anybody.

1068
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:41,399
Speaker 2: When Jared Goff was drafted by the Rams, they used

1069
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 2: all this draft capital and they moved to LA number

1070
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 2: one overall pick. And you talk about deer in the headlights.

1071
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 2: I mean, his rookie season was a catastrophe. It sure,

1072
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 2: and you're watching this and you're like, wow, you really

1073
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 2: destroyed yourself. And then they bring in Sean McVay the

1074
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:04,920
Speaker 2: next year, and I did this interview with Sean McVay

1075
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:08,440
Speaker 2: before that first season began. I got an opportunity to

1076
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 2: do an exclusive one on one. Actually the less need

1077
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 2: was sitting in the room as well. I'm looking at

1078
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 2: a kid. I'm literally looking at this thirty year old kid,

1079
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 2: and I'm thinking to myself. I was working for the

1080
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 2: Raiders when you were born. Okay, so I'm trying to

1081
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:27,400
Speaker 2: get that whole dynamic. So my first question is what

1082
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:30,800
Speaker 2: are you going to do with this quarterback? And he goes,

1083
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 2: we are going to start all over again. We are

1084
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:37,800
Speaker 2: going to erase that year. And one of the things

1085
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 2: he did was he brought in someone that he was

1086
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 2: comfortable with. I guess it was a backup quarterback at

1087
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:45,839
Speaker 2: cal a front of his as a camp guy, wasn't

1088
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:47,479
Speaker 2: going to have any chance to make the team around

1089
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 2: the house, but give him somebody that he can talk

1090
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 2: to or whatever that understands him. And if you think

1091
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 2: about the change in year one to year two of

1092
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 2: golf was late night and day because again, why were

1093
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 2: you so highly sold? What is it that you did

1094
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 2: better than anybody else? Well, the first year they didn't

1095
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 2: figure that out. He did immediately, I'm going to to

1096
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:16,440
Speaker 2: tailor this offense to maximize what it is you do best.

1097
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:19,400
Speaker 2: And just like that, got became a Pro Bowl quarterback.

1098
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 3: Well, and I think you could say that about a

1099
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 3: lot of quarterbacks in the league this year, and we've

1100
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:25,919
Speaker 3: talked about this all season. Guys who were written off,

1101
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 3: they were bused. Going back to Baker, Mayfield. We've talked

1102
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 3: about Sam Darnold, Drake may Drake may I mean Jaroff

1103
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 3: Caleb Williams. It's you putting someone in a position to succeed.

1104
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 3: Also means putting the tools around the athlete to succeed,

1105
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 3: getting him a good quarterbacks coach, getting him the right coach,

1106
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 3: getting him an offensive line, giving him offensive weapons. It's

1107
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:49,239
Speaker 3: like when people make this argument like Rug Prudy would

1108
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:52,120
Speaker 3: be nothing without his offensive weapons. What quarterback if they

1109
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 3: have no one to throw to? Like, what quarterback is

1110
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 3: so great without offensive weapons? So it's bringing them, not

1111
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 3: only giving them the player the whoils to succeed, but

1112
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 3: put the stuff around him. You cannot draft a quarterback

1113
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:07,440
Speaker 3: number one, which means they're going to a bad team

1114
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:10,520
Speaker 3: for the most part, and then say well, we're not

1115
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:12,839
Speaker 3: going to do anything else, but I wish you the

1116
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:15,319
Speaker 3: best of luck. You're now the face of the franchise.

1117
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:17,359
Speaker 3: Please don't mess it up or in a year you're

1118
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:18,759
Speaker 3: going to be a bust and we're gonna bench you

1119
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:21,240
Speaker 3: and try to go out and get Gino Smith.

1120
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 2: I don't know what.

1121
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 10: Well, let's look at Sam Donald right, looking at Sam

1122
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:31,240
Speaker 10: Busks fifth team, fifth team, Yeah, the Vikings apparently ignored

1123
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:33,920
Speaker 10: what he did last year, and part of that was

1124
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:36,480
Speaker 10: is that they had a coach that they felt like, well,

1125
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:37,799
Speaker 10: he can make anybody work.

1126
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 2: Remember JJ McCarthy was supposed to be the quarterback. He

1127
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 2: gets hurt, We're throwing Sam Donald. All of a sudden,

1128
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 2: he's a Pro Bowl quarterback. They made a decision, We're

1129
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:46,880
Speaker 2: going to sign Daniel Jones.

1130
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:49,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think I do think with.

1131
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 2: The Donald was replaceable.

1132
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:54,200
Speaker 3: But I think with the Vikings, and I know i'm

1133
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:55,960
Speaker 3: a JJ stam, but I think part of the thing

1134
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:59,000
Speaker 3: with the Vikings and Donald was and at the time

1135
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:01,880
Speaker 3: everybody agreed with them. They have this quarterback that they

1136
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 3: drafted to be the franchise player. Were they going to

1137
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:06,879
Speaker 3: bring Sam Donald back and have him sit another year?

1138
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 3: And at the time everybody said, Sam Darnald made the

1139
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:14,920
Speaker 3: decision easy with his performance in that final game to

1140
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 3: get the one seed and then in the playoff game.

1141
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:19,520
Speaker 3: I think for Sam Donald in his career, those were

1142
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 3: two amazing games for him for the future because he

1143
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 3: learned and now he's going to be great.

1144
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:26,320
Speaker 4: But I do think heinrich.

1145
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:28,440
Speaker 2: I still sold on JJ McCarty. I know you're a

1146
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 2: Michigan fan, and I was a defender McCarthy because the

1147
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 2: idea of you know, Harbaugh coach, team is going to

1148
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 2: run the ball. That's what they want to do. But

1149
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 2: when when McCarthy needed to make big plays, especially in

1150
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 2: that playoff game against Alabama, he made the big three, he.

1151
00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:44,919
Speaker 3: Always I am still on JJ McCarthy, but I think

1152
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:48,040
Speaker 3: this is a good example. I think where the Vikings

1153
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 3: really made a mistake this year, and this is I

1154
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 3: understand I'm very jjbias, but where I really think they

1155
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 3: made a mistake is this year should have been we

1156
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 3: are bringing in essentially a rookie quarterback. He missed his

1157
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:00,440
Speaker 3: entire rookie season, and there are going to be ups

1158
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 3: and downs and there are things that we're going to

1159
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 3: have to work with him on. Coming into this year

1160
00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 3: with a we've built a super Bowl winning team and

1161
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 3: we got the quarterback was unfair because also it's not

1162
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 3: just JJ. There were a lot of issues on that

1163
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 3: Vikings team. They had defensive issues. The defense was the

1164
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:16,480
Speaker 3: best part, but they had issues there. They had tremendous

1165
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:19,080
Speaker 3: special teams issues. They have no offensive line. There's a

1166
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:22,120
Speaker 3: reason JJ and Carson Wentz, both of them every time

1167
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 3: they went out there came off the field with some

1168
00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 3: sort of injury. So there's a lot of things they

1169
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 3: did not do well that were not just about the quarterback.

1170
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 3: And they made a real mistake there not recognizing the

1171
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 3: team that they have and then and not being realistic

1172
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:38,920
Speaker 3: about what the season was going to be. And so

1173
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 3: I think it was a detriment to JJ and I

1174
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 3: do believe in him, but he's going to have to

1175
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 3: be in the right situation, and that right situation may

1176
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:47,240
Speaker 3: not be in Minnesota.

1177
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 4: You can tell I'm very passionate.

1178
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:53,800
Speaker 2: Well, I love McCarthy's swagger. He has a swag, and

1179
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:56,480
Speaker 2: I love that. I want to see that in my quarterback.

1180
00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:00,880
Speaker 2: But you're just making mistakes you just can't make and

1181
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 2: you can't just say was this that and everything else.

1182
00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:07,440
Speaker 2: It's just like Drake May's performance. Yeah, he had no

1183
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:09,920
Speaker 2: offensive line in the Super Bowl, but he missed throws.

1184
00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:14,480
Speaker 2: I mean, he missed multiple throws on third downs that

1185
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 2: could have moved the ball, could have moved the change,

1186
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 2: and he missed them. He got rattled, and you can't

1187
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 2: do that.

1188
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 4: You can't. But I would just argue that JJ McCarthy's played.

1189
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 2: Ten games and he's got to stay healthy.

1190
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 4: He's got to stay healthy, and there are definitely.

1191
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:30,040
Speaker 2: Things they have to two years of injuries.

1192
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:32,560
Speaker 3: There's definitely things they have to work on this offseason

1193
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 3: that they admit, mechanical things that they should have done

1194
00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 3: last year. But you know, I don't think for all

1195
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 3: we talk about quarterbacks being in the right situation, not

1196
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:41,680
Speaker 3: writing him off.

1197
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 4: You can't call him a bust.

1198
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:45,040
Speaker 2: All right. Coming up on the other side, I'm going

1199
00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 2: to get back to the NBA's big All Star weekend.

1200
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:53,400
Speaker 2: All Star I always used. I love that term all Star?

1201
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 2: Are they really? This is Fox Sports Saturday. Do listen

1202
00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:03,760
Speaker 2: No Fox Sports Steve Harvin, Tracy Sandler in for Jonas Knox.

1203
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:07,520
Speaker 2: Here Fox Sports Saturday. I love this song. Thank you

1204
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:08,880
Speaker 2: very much Chris for this song.

1205
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:10,000
Speaker 6: Sochi.

1206
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:16,920
Speaker 2: One of the most overused terms is all star. I

1207
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 2: mean I put it this way. When we talk about

1208
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:24,959
Speaker 2: all star games, the more accurate terms should be some stars.

1209
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 4: Game that doesn't might have a good marketing ring to it.

1210
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the some star game because yeah, some

1211
01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:36,760
Speaker 2: of them are stars, but they're not all stars stars.

1212
01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:39,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not a great tagline. I don't know you're

1213
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:41,280
Speaker 3: gonna get a lot of people coming in there. Look,

1214
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:43,720
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think of the merchandise, like the NBA

1215
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:46,000
Speaker 3: twenty twenty six some Stars game.

1216
01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:47,440
Speaker 4: It just doesn't it doesn't feel the same.

1217
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:49,960
Speaker 2: Well, I mean you had the rising Stars.

1218
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:52,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, so that yes, you could, so you could just

1219
01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:53,200
Speaker 4: do stars.

1220
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:58,480
Speaker 2: Yeah. Okay. Again, my definition of a star may be

1221
01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:01,360
Speaker 2: a little different than others. I mean, I feel the

1222
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:04,400
Speaker 2: same way about halls of fame. You know. My attitude

1223
01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:08,040
Speaker 2: is if I give you a name, if I say,

1224
01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:11,320
Speaker 2: is this person a Hall of Famer, and you have

1225
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:14,160
Speaker 2: to think about it, they're not a Hall of Famer.

1226
01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:16,280
Speaker 4: That's fair. I think that's actually that's very fair.

1227
01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:18,360
Speaker 2: If I if I have to pause, I'm like, well,

1228
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:22,439
Speaker 2: then they're not a Hall of favorite. Well I say

1229
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:28,720
Speaker 2: Tom Brady hall of Fame. If I say Ben Roethlisberger, No,

1230
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:30,600
Speaker 2: you're pausing, see, and you should.

1231
01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:34,120
Speaker 3: I'm pausing for a number of reasons when you say

1232
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:36,640
Speaker 3: Ben roethlis Well. One of them is, of course.

1233
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:40,920
Speaker 2: He's certainly not in the people Hall of Fame. I

1234
01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:44,520
Speaker 2: understand that he's not, But I mean, if you have

1235
01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:46,840
Speaker 2: to think about it, they're not, at least in my

1236
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:49,439
Speaker 2: halls of fame. My halls of fame would be far

1237
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:52,760
Speaker 2: more exclusive. You know, I agree with Dion Sanders. I mean,

1238
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:55,360
Speaker 2: there's different levels. But if you want to open the

1239
01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:57,960
Speaker 2: floodgates and just start lowering the bar all the time,

1240
01:01:58,040 --> 01:02:01,200
Speaker 2: then to me, it's not really a representative hall of fame.

1241
01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:03,200
Speaker 2: There is. You know, they have these things like the

1242
01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:06,000
Speaker 2: Hall of the Very Good, and there's nothing wrong with that.

1243
01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:08,760
Speaker 2: You're really good, do they They don't.

1244
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:10,680
Speaker 4: You don't get inducted into the Hall of the Very Well.

1245
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:13,520
Speaker 2: There's a there's a group called, I guess the NFL

1246
01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:17,080
Speaker 2: Research Committee where they established this about twenty years ago.

1247
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:19,440
Speaker 2: Many of the people they put in the Hall of

1248
01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:21,960
Speaker 2: the Very Good eventually did actually get into the Pro

1249
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:24,360
Speaker 2: Football Hall of Fame. Okay, but I mean there should

1250
01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:26,440
Speaker 2: be a no brainer. I mean baseball, when you think

1251
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:28,760
Speaker 2: about the very first five people put in the Baseball

1252
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:31,800
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame, Babe Ruth Tykov, Honest Wagner, Christy Mathews,

1253
01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:34,880
Speaker 2: and Walter Johnson, that should have been the bar forever.

1254
01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:35,960
Speaker 4: Yes, that's fair.

1255
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:40,520
Speaker 2: You know, Carlos Beltron and Andrew Jones are not on

1256
01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:43,920
Speaker 2: the same level as Willie Mays and Hank Aaron. Okay,

1257
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:48,280
Speaker 2: that's no I'm sorry. They were really good players. They

1258
01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:51,000
Speaker 2: are not Hall of famers. Greg Maddox was a Hall

1259
01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:51,560
Speaker 2: of Famer.

1260
01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:55,160
Speaker 3: We have we have like esp right now because I

1261
01:02:55,240 --> 01:02:57,160
Speaker 3: was just about to say Greg Maddox.

1262
01:02:57,080 --> 01:02:59,760
Speaker 2: That's a Hall of Famer, Randy Johnson, Hall of Famer,

1263
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:03,800
Speaker 2: Martinez Hall of Famer, Clinton Kershall, Hall of Fame, Justin

1264
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:06,439
Speaker 2: Berland or Hall of Fame, Max Schers or Hall of Fame.

1265
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:11,120
Speaker 2: That's Hall of Fame. Mike Musina, No, not on that

1266
01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:17,320
Speaker 2: same level. CC Sabathia, not on the same level. Really

1267
01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:21,520
Speaker 2: good pictures for a long time, they're not on that level.

1268
01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:28,040
Speaker 2: That's Hall of Famer. That's a Hall of Famer, absolutely so.

1269
01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:31,160
Speaker 2: But the same thing with the star. Yeah, we've had

1270
01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:33,640
Speaker 2: this rising stars game for several years. Take a look

1271
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:36,760
Speaker 2: at their rosters of these rising stars over the last

1272
01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:40,320
Speaker 2: seven years and literally if you could identify even ten

1273
01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:45,120
Speaker 2: percent of these players, ten percent, ten percent, then you

1274
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:49,120
Speaker 2: are a true NBA insider, like you really know, like

1275
01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:52,040
Speaker 2: my son is one of those hardcore know every play

1276
01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:54,240
Speaker 2: in the league type of guys. So it's like, Dad,

1277
01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:57,240
Speaker 2: I know all of that. I'm like, okay, so yeah,

1278
01:03:57,280 --> 01:04:02,240
Speaker 2: that's that term star h is. But all star, please,

1279
01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:03,720
Speaker 2: I mean some star.

1280
01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:08,600
Speaker 3: Would you say that the Major League Baseball All Star

1281
01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:10,120
Speaker 3: Game though they get it right?

1282
01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:13,919
Speaker 2: No, because well, first of all, they do. You could

1283
01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:15,960
Speaker 2: have a good couple of months to start a season

1284
01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:18,320
Speaker 2: and they put you in the All Star Game, right

1285
01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:20,760
Speaker 2: and you literally have never heard of them? How can

1286
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:23,480
Speaker 2: you be a star if people have never heard of you?

1287
01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:26,480
Speaker 4: But the fans vote on that to start?

1288
01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:31,320
Speaker 2: Well, yes, and some of them will become stars. We've seen,

1289
01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:34,240
Speaker 2: you know, maybe players early in their career become an

1290
01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:36,120
Speaker 2: All Star and then they become a Hall of Famer.

1291
01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:39,080
Speaker 2: We've also had young players and maybe had a couple

1292
01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:41,040
Speaker 2: of hot months and disappear in the second I mean,

1293
01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:44,160
Speaker 2: the list is much longer of that than it is

1294
01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:47,640
Speaker 2: guys that actually go on to become stars. The nature

1295
01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:50,360
Speaker 2: of the All Star Game in baseball, I like, I

1296
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:52,840
Speaker 2: love that, and I love the fact that they did

1297
01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:55,080
Speaker 2: away with that gimmick like who wins the game gets

1298
01:04:55,080 --> 01:04:56,200
Speaker 2: home field advantage?

1299
01:04:56,320 --> 01:04:58,640
Speaker 3: That is can I just take a moment with that?

1300
01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:01,640
Speaker 3: That is to me, the most ridiculous thing. Can you

1301
01:05:01,720 --> 01:05:04,160
Speaker 3: imagine you're going to play in the World Series. You're

1302
01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:06,880
Speaker 3: the National League team with a way better record, and

1303
01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:09,800
Speaker 3: you should have home field advantage. But some picture in

1304
01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:13,200
Speaker 3: July had a bad inning in an All Star Game

1305
01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:15,400
Speaker 3: and now you're on you're not the home field.

1306
01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:17,160
Speaker 4: That was ridiculous.

1307
01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:20,280
Speaker 2: It was ridiculous because it was a reaction to an

1308
01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:22,760
Speaker 2: extra inning game in the All Star Game with basically

1309
01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:25,720
Speaker 2: both sides ran out of pictures. Right, But that's why

1310
01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:27,320
Speaker 2: don't you go back to the old days where the

1311
01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:30,040
Speaker 2: starting picture for the All Star Game actually through three innings.

1312
01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:33,040
Speaker 2: That would that would solve the picture problem. But again,

1313
01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:37,160
Speaker 2: he knows, good game, man, that's not the way they

1314
01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:38,720
Speaker 2: do it. I get this all the time, you know,

1315
01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:42,600
Speaker 2: with my kids and everything else. Well, times have changed.

1316
01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:46,080
Speaker 2: I go really, I mean, you know, the idea that

1317
01:05:46,120 --> 01:05:47,960
Speaker 2: you have to sort of fight for your career or

1318
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:49,840
Speaker 2: you'll earn it, you know, you know, go out on

1319
01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:53,800
Speaker 2: your own. How's that changed? I'm sorry, you know, no,

1320
01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:58,840
Speaker 2: it hasn't changed. You changed. I'm not speaking to you personally.

1321
01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:03,120
Speaker 2: I know you're using that. Oh I thought, I Isaac, Well, Isaac,

1322
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:05,360
Speaker 2: Isaac actually has not changed. Let's find out what it's

1323
01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:08,080
Speaker 2: trending right now. Because Isaac Glowing Kron is a very

1324
01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:12,560
Speaker 2: consistent over the years. He is the same person exactly

1325
01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:16,000
Speaker 2: that I've known all these years, you have not changed.

1326
01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:18,360
Speaker 7: I don't know if that's a compliment or an insult.

1327
01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:20,240
Speaker 7: I'm leaning insult to be honest with you.

1328
01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:22,400
Speaker 2: Do you still have the picture of Vin Scully in

1329
01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:23,600
Speaker 2: your car? Jeez?

1330
01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:26,400
Speaker 6: That cat wasn't let out of the bag, it was

1331
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:27,040
Speaker 6: yanked out.

1332
01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:29,480
Speaker 2: Did your wife do?

1333
01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:32,160
Speaker 7: This is ironically the second time in the last couple

1334
01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:35,360
Speaker 7: of weeks that I've been reminded about that, and it

1335
01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:38,000
Speaker 7: was removed shortly before I met my wife or also

1336
01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:40,080
Speaker 7: whole degal would likely never have happened.

1337
01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:42,000
Speaker 3: But she just had a picture of Vin Scully in

1338
01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:44,520
Speaker 3: your car. Always I should have a picture of showhyo

1339
01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:46,960
Speaker 3: Tani in my car. I actually am taking this as motivation.

1340
01:06:47,080 --> 01:06:49,920
Speaker 2: Wait was it not you and Vin Scully? It was

1341
01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:51,520
Speaker 2: just of Vin Scully.

1342
01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:54,680
Speaker 6: Later on there was a picture of me and Vin Scully.

1343
01:06:55,680 --> 01:06:56,920
Speaker 6: It was just a picture of him.

1344
01:06:57,160 --> 01:06:59,440
Speaker 4: I say, Okay, with just a picture of him in

1345
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:00,440
Speaker 4: my car, I.

1346
01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:02,880
Speaker 7: Feel like you're the only one. I feel, Tracy, like

1347
01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:05,400
Speaker 7: you're the only one on my side around here. That

1348
01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:07,680
Speaker 7: Shay and Steve are just kind of ganging up and

1349
01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:08,600
Speaker 7: getting their kicks in.

1350
01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:12,160
Speaker 2: No, I mean the idea of looking at the greatest

1351
01:07:12,200 --> 01:07:17,120
Speaker 2: broadcaster Caver and using him as an inspiration for your

1352
01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:19,920
Speaker 2: ka and the fact that you've come so close.

1353
01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:25,560
Speaker 3: But I think Steve's a little bit more on the nose,

1354
01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:28,040
Speaker 3: and I think Shae's like a little more subtle about it.

1355
01:07:28,280 --> 01:07:32,320
Speaker 7: I gonna yeah, Steve's not known for his subtlety.

1356
01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:36,320
Speaker 6: Well, you know what, I am yelling it like it is,

1357
01:07:36,680 --> 01:07:37,640
Speaker 6: thank you, Howard.

1358
01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:42,760
Speaker 7: I am vamping here because unfortunately for all of us listening,

1359
01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:50,440
Speaker 7: the operative phrase right now is trore do pa me rockler. Yeah,

1360
01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:54,440
Speaker 7: you know what that means. Now, that means do you

1361
01:07:54,560 --> 01:07:55,680
Speaker 7: believe in miracles?

1362
01:07:55,960 --> 01:07:57,680
Speaker 6: Yes? In Danish?

1363
01:07:57,800 --> 01:08:02,440
Speaker 7: Because right now at the Olympics Men's ice hockey, Denmark

1364
01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:06,600
Speaker 7: is leading team USA two to one with five minutes

1365
01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:09,680
Speaker 7: and fifty seconds left to play in the first period.

1366
01:08:10,040 --> 01:08:11,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean yes now.

1367
01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:14,480
Speaker 2: I literally was doing a radio show yesterday. They were

1368
01:08:14,520 --> 01:08:17,640
Speaker 2: asking me about this is the US's best opportunity to

1369
01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:19,280
Speaker 2: win gold since nineteen eighty.

1370
01:08:20,120 --> 01:08:22,280
Speaker 4: Well not if the Danish get involved.

1371
01:08:22,280 --> 01:08:22,439
Speaker 2: Here.

1372
01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:25,640
Speaker 7: Yeah, we had Nick Olison of Denmark scoring just a

1373
01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:28,840
Speaker 7: minute and forty seconds in the United States tied it

1374
01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:31,800
Speaker 7: less than two minutes later on a Matt Boldy goal.

1375
01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:36,839
Speaker 7: But Nicholas Jensen scored eleven sixteen in the first period,

1376
01:08:36,920 --> 01:08:41,200
Speaker 7: so right now it remains Denmark two. The United States

1377
01:08:41,240 --> 01:08:45,280
Speaker 7: won five fifteen and counting remaining in the first period.

1378
01:08:45,320 --> 01:08:48,800
Speaker 7: Earlier today, American speed skater Jordan Stoles won the gold

1379
01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:51,759
Speaker 7: medal in the five hundred meters, his second gold medal

1380
01:08:51,840 --> 01:08:55,080
Speaker 7: of the games. He won the thousand meters back on Wednesday.

1381
01:08:55,520 --> 01:08:59,000
Speaker 7: In college basketball. He didn't think I'd forget about this,

1382
01:08:59,080 --> 01:08:59,320
Speaker 7: did you?

1383
01:08:59,360 --> 01:09:01,920
Speaker 6: Hartmina square that halftime score?

1384
01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:04,960
Speaker 2: Can we just the halftime score was Michigan forty, UCLA

1385
01:09:05,040 --> 01:09:05,479
Speaker 2: thirty eight.

1386
01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:07,440
Speaker 4: Oh, okay, the final score, Isaac.

1387
01:09:07,240 --> 01:09:12,400
Speaker 7: Well, the final score, Tracy, glad you asked, Michigan eighty six,

1388
01:09:12,800 --> 01:09:17,679
Speaker 7: UCLA fifty six. As the Wolverines outscored the Bruins forty

1389
01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:20,760
Speaker 7: six to eighteen in the second.

1390
01:09:20,439 --> 01:09:23,040
Speaker 4: Half, the Champions of the West go blue.

1391
01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:27,320
Speaker 6: Sorry Hartman, your reaction. No need to apologize here, Tracy Hartman.

1392
01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:27,920
Speaker 6: Your reaction.

1393
01:09:28,720 --> 01:09:36,519
Speaker 2: Steven's one. There is eighteen says it all. There's nothing

1394
01:09:36,640 --> 01:09:37,559
Speaker 2: to say after.

1395
01:09:37,360 --> 01:09:40,040
Speaker 7: That, all right, because there's so many famous final scores,

1396
01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:43,280
Speaker 7: with the UCLA thirteen to nine, for example, but forty

1397
01:09:43,320 --> 01:09:45,400
Speaker 7: six to eighteen added to the election.

1398
01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:46,160
Speaker 6: I'm sure the other.

1399
01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:49,080
Speaker 2: Incident had a lot of positive things to say after It's.

1400
01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:51,800
Speaker 7: A long road trip from Los Angeles to Ann Arbor.

1401
01:09:51,960 --> 01:09:55,200
Speaker 7: Number five, Iowa State defeated ninth rank Kansas seventy four

1402
01:09:55,240 --> 01:09:59,360
Speaker 7: to fifty six. Finally we have some fresh NFL news.

1403
01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:03,760
Speaker 7: There are multiple Marty Grass related parades going on in

1404
01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:08,360
Speaker 7: New Orleans today, and among those spotted enjoying the festivities

1405
01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:11,799
Speaker 7: just moments ago none other than former Saints and current

1406
01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:15,880
Speaker 7: Broncos head coach Sean Payton. He was wearing multiple sets

1407
01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:18,200
Speaker 7: of beads around his neck and looking like he was

1408
01:10:18,240 --> 01:10:19,559
Speaker 7: having a good time.

1409
01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:22,639
Speaker 2: Back to you, guys, I love Sean Payton. I really

1410
01:10:22,680 --> 01:10:25,880
Speaker 2: do you know? I have this one picture the year

1411
01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:29,040
Speaker 2: he was suspended. Remember he was suspended for that entire year.

1412
01:10:29,840 --> 01:10:32,200
Speaker 2: We are at the Zurich Golf Classic in New Orleans,

1413
01:10:32,280 --> 01:10:34,200
Speaker 2: covering that golf turnaing we did for three years. By

1414
01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:36,920
Speaker 2: this is the best. They would actually take us all

1415
01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:39,800
Speaker 2: out to dinner at Emeralds, and Emerald was there. Oh

1416
01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:42,640
Speaker 2: that's nice, like serving up you know, I'm drinking. But

1417
01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:44,760
Speaker 2: Sean Payton hung out with us. He could not have

1418
01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:47,040
Speaker 2: been nicer. We said, well, you got some time on

1419
01:10:47,080 --> 01:10:49,559
Speaker 2: your hands this year. So. I know a lot of

1420
01:10:49,560 --> 01:10:52,280
Speaker 2: people don't like Sean Payton. I am not one of those.

1421
01:10:52,320 --> 01:10:54,720
Speaker 2: I like Sean Payton all right. I've actually had some

1422
01:10:54,720 --> 01:10:57,200
Speaker 2: contact with the guy and he you don't seem convinced.

1423
01:10:57,520 --> 01:10:59,679
Speaker 4: No, I believe you. I don't actually really have strong

1424
01:10:59,680 --> 01:11:00,960
Speaker 4: feelings about shot and Payton either way.

1425
01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:02,920
Speaker 2: You have strong feelings though, about a lot of people.

1426
01:11:03,240 --> 01:11:05,439
Speaker 4: I have strong feelings about a lot of people.

1427
01:11:05,280 --> 01:11:07,160
Speaker 2: Like Ben Roethlisberg. He made that clear, very.

1428
01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:10,360
Speaker 3: Strong feelings about and none of them are good. In fact,

1429
01:11:10,439 --> 01:11:12,400
Speaker 3: every one of them is terrible.

1430
01:11:12,840 --> 01:11:14,160
Speaker 2: Shane's another one of those guys.

1431
01:11:14,160 --> 01:11:18,360
Speaker 11: Strong feeling, Yeah, I really I was really happy when

1432
01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:20,320
Speaker 11: you said you hated Oh.

1433
01:11:20,040 --> 01:11:21,000
Speaker 1: I hate him.

1434
01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:23,479
Speaker 4: So I hate him for for reasons that have nothing

1435
01:11:23,520 --> 01:11:23,920
Speaker 4: to do with.

1436
01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:25,639
Speaker 2: Football off field and on field.

1437
01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:28,400
Speaker 4: I give him. Hey, I'm out on the well.

1438
01:11:28,439 --> 01:11:30,720
Speaker 2: There was a certain episode up at Lake Tahoe, the

1439
01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:32,000
Speaker 2: Subburty golf tournament.

1440
01:11:32,439 --> 01:11:34,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's not not a good not a good dude.

1441
01:11:34,720 --> 01:11:41,919
Speaker 3: I have strong good feelings towards Shootani, Decoy, Otani, JJ McCarthy,

1442
01:11:42,040 --> 01:11:42,639
Speaker 3: krist Love.

1443
01:11:43,200 --> 01:11:45,559
Speaker 2: I know your love affair with Sho Tani. You're not

1444
01:11:45,560 --> 01:11:48,640
Speaker 2: going to deny. It never So last night, you know,

1445
01:11:48,680 --> 01:11:51,719
Speaker 2: I do l a TV here and we were playing

1446
01:11:51,880 --> 01:11:54,920
Speaker 2: a uh because he's there pitchers and catchers. Yes, he is.

1447
01:11:54,960 --> 01:11:57,400
Speaker 2: So he's very excited because this is the first year

1448
01:11:57,400 --> 01:11:59,560
Speaker 2: with the Dodgers, because remember the first year he was

1449
01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:01,680
Speaker 2: going to pitch at all, and last year he was

1450
01:12:01,720 --> 01:12:04,559
Speaker 2: still basically rehabbing halfway through the season. So this is

1451
01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:08,240
Speaker 2: the first spring training where he's with the Dodgers as

1452
01:12:08,360 --> 01:12:13,080
Speaker 2: a true two way player. And he was asked about

1453
01:12:13,280 --> 01:12:17,320
Speaker 2: the Cy Young Award, and his answer, through his interpreter,

1454
01:12:17,680 --> 01:12:21,040
Speaker 2: was is that I would like to win the Cy

1455
01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:24,040
Speaker 2: Young Award because it means I've actually pitched an entire year.

1456
01:12:24,080 --> 01:12:26,120
Speaker 2: You're not gonna win the cy Young Award with half

1457
01:12:26,120 --> 01:12:28,200
Speaker 2: a season. But if I am a candidate for the

1458
01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:31,800
Speaker 2: Cy Young Award, that means I've thrown enough innings to

1459
01:12:32,080 --> 01:12:36,639
Speaker 2: be in the conversation. And who would ever bet against

1460
01:12:36,680 --> 01:12:37,080
Speaker 2: this guy?

1461
01:12:37,240 --> 01:12:38,520
Speaker 4: I mean, he's.

1462
01:12:38,439 --> 01:12:45,920
Speaker 2: Perfect, Rob Parker, he bet against him? Yes, Yes, I

1463
01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:47,200
Speaker 2: think I'm moving to Mexico.

1464
01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:51,120
Speaker 6: Sound the alarm.

1465
01:12:51,280 --> 01:12:55,120
Speaker 2: Okay, So when you say perfect, that that's a strong word.

1466
01:12:55,360 --> 01:12:55,720
Speaker 2: It is.

1467
01:12:55,880 --> 01:12:56,920
Speaker 4: I feel it strongly.

1468
01:12:57,360 --> 01:13:01,120
Speaker 2: Wow, I do so. In other words, in a world

1469
01:13:01,120 --> 01:13:07,240
Speaker 2: of perfect. There is no wrong. There's nothing he does wrong.

1470
01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:09,360
Speaker 4: As far as I am concerned, that is correct.

1471
01:13:09,520 --> 01:13:13,360
Speaker 2: Okay, so there's nothing nothing. So if I were to

1472
01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:16,040
Speaker 2: ask you to place a wager on him to win

1473
01:13:16,120 --> 01:13:19,040
Speaker 2: the cy Young Award this season, I.

1474
01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:20,400
Speaker 4: Would never I don't bet.

1475
01:13:20,640 --> 01:13:22,639
Speaker 2: I don't bet either, But would you think that would

1476
01:13:22,640 --> 01:13:25,599
Speaker 2: be a night would you recommend to your best friend

1477
01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:28,360
Speaker 2: who might be willing to wager money on him winning

1478
01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:30,599
Speaker 2: the cy Young? Would you say that will be a

1479
01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:31,599
Speaker 2: wise investment?

1480
01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:35,120
Speaker 4: I would, and my best friend would know that.

1481
01:13:35,240 --> 01:13:38,080
Speaker 3: I think joey Otani is perfect in every way, So

1482
01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:41,360
Speaker 3: asking me is probably not the smartest move because my

1483
01:13:41,479 --> 01:13:43,800
Speaker 3: response would be absolutely.

1484
01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:47,400
Speaker 2: Isn't it amazing that this guy was with the Angels

1485
01:13:47,439 --> 01:13:51,800
Speaker 2: for six years six years, and those last three years

1486
01:13:51,800 --> 01:13:54,280
Speaker 2: he won two MVPs and runner up, so he was

1487
01:13:54,600 --> 01:13:57,400
Speaker 2: MVP second MVP in the last three years, and they

1488
01:13:57,400 --> 01:14:00,400
Speaker 2: didn't have one playoff game in those six years that

1489
01:14:00,439 --> 01:14:03,400
Speaker 2: he was there, not one. It's the guy named Mike Trout,

1490
01:14:03,400 --> 01:14:04,439
Speaker 2: also on the team.

1491
01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:06,120
Speaker 4: Does not speak well of the Angels.

1492
01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:07,559
Speaker 2: How is that possible?

1493
01:14:07,640 --> 01:14:09,960
Speaker 3: I don't know how it's possible. Well, the Angels, that's

1494
01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:10,479
Speaker 3: how it's fin.

1495
01:14:11,040 --> 01:14:13,040
Speaker 2: In those last three years he was pitching.

1496
01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:15,920
Speaker 3: I know I saw him pitch actually once against the

1497
01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:18,320
Speaker 3: Dodgers at a Dodgers Angels game at Dodger Stadium the

1498
01:14:18,400 --> 01:14:20,040
Speaker 3: year before he came to LA.

1499
01:14:20,280 --> 01:14:22,240
Speaker 2: I don't think there's a single team in Major League

1500
01:14:22,240 --> 01:14:25,160
Speaker 2: Baseball that believes that if we add sho hey o

1501
01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:27,200
Speaker 2: Tani to our roster, we're not going to at least

1502
01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:30,040
Speaker 2: make the playoffs. Yet the Angels pull off for six

1503
01:14:30,080 --> 01:14:32,320
Speaker 2: straight years, it's actually possible.

1504
01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:35,320
Speaker 3: It's almost impressive by the Angels. You almost have to

1505
01:14:35,320 --> 01:14:36,960
Speaker 3: give them credit for being able to do.

1506
01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:38,679
Speaker 2: That was six raight losing seasons.

1507
01:14:38,840 --> 01:14:40,760
Speaker 11: I remember, have you been so? You said you saw

1508
01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:43,280
Speaker 11: them at Dodger Stadium. Okay, so I used to take

1509
01:14:43,280 --> 01:14:45,599
Speaker 11: the train to the Angel Stadium to go watch them.

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01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:48,320
Speaker 11: And my god, the way this guy would pitch. And

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01:14:48,360 --> 01:14:50,799
Speaker 11: then the minute he got off the field, the minute

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01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:53,080
Speaker 11: he got off the field, it was just game over

1513
01:14:53,080 --> 01:14:55,479
Speaker 11: for them. It was they give up four hits, five hits,

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01:14:55,479 --> 01:14:56,960
Speaker 11: six hits. The next inning.

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Speaker 2: It was horrible, horrible. I will say this for though,

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01:15:00,640 --> 01:15:02,679
Speaker 2: in his two years of the Dodgers, it's certainly nice

1517
01:15:02,720 --> 01:15:04,240
Speaker 2: to have a guy like Yamamoto around.

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01:15:04,320 --> 01:15:05,479
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, I love him too.

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01:15:05,560 --> 01:15:07,800
Speaker 2: I mean you talk about I asked this question, would

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01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:10,559
Speaker 2: you trade yamamotives straight up for Terrek's Scooble?

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01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:14,360
Speaker 4: No, you say every time I say no.

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01:15:14,680 --> 01:15:16,680
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, we have a Detroit guy over there that

1523
01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:17,639
Speaker 2: says my thing.

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01:15:17,720 --> 01:15:21,720
Speaker 3: You've seen you've seen Yamamoto in a world series in

1525
01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:23,760
Speaker 3: the playoffs like you've seen him do it.

1526
01:15:23,800 --> 01:15:25,920
Speaker 2: Well, he's been in seven playoff series and the Dodgers

1527
01:15:25,920 --> 01:15:26,559
Speaker 2: have won them all.

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01:15:26,920 --> 01:15:27,400
Speaker 4: There you go.

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01:15:27,800 --> 01:15:31,759
Speaker 3: I also have a Yamamoto bedazzled jersey, and I feel

1530
01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:34,080
Speaker 3: like trading him would make me really upset because that

1531
01:15:34,160 --> 01:15:36,000
Speaker 3: was not a cheap purchase and I love it.

1532
01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:37,639
Speaker 2: So all right, I know where Chris dans. I'm gonna

1533
01:15:37,640 --> 01:15:39,000
Speaker 2: ask you, Shay straight up?

1534
01:15:39,000 --> 01:15:41,600
Speaker 4: Would you you just said yes.

1535
01:15:41,479 --> 01:15:43,360
Speaker 2: I haven't said I haven't cracked my bike at all.

1536
01:15:43,479 --> 01:15:45,439
Speaker 2: Oh I thought it was you that said schoobl Yes,

1537
01:15:45,479 --> 01:15:47,679
Speaker 2: you would trade all right, So I'm asking you right now.

1538
01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:49,600
Speaker 2: You know, I do think he said we need to

1539
01:15:49,640 --> 01:15:52,120
Speaker 2: go to break. Okay, well very quickly before we go

1540
01:15:52,200 --> 01:15:55,000
Speaker 2: to break, would you trade straight up Yamamoto for Schooball

1541
01:15:55,080 --> 01:16:00,240
Speaker 2: if you're the Dodgers, if I'm the Dodgers. Absolutely, yes, absolutely, yes, right,

1542
01:16:00,439 --> 01:16:02,920
Speaker 2: that's crazy. All right. I don't know why you would

1543
01:16:02,920 --> 01:16:06,880
Speaker 2: do that, but instead no, Okay, on the other side,

1544
01:16:06,920 --> 01:16:09,280
Speaker 2: we'll put a rap on this. This is Fox Sports Saturday.

1545
01:16:10,760 --> 01:16:13,760
Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

1546
01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:18,160
Speaker 2: Steve Hartin, Tracy Sandler here Fox Sports Saturday. With the

1547
01:16:18,160 --> 01:16:21,240
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1548
01:16:22,080 --> 01:16:24,360
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1549
01:16:24,360 --> 01:16:26,799
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1550
01:16:26,800 --> 01:16:30,080
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1551
01:16:30,360 --> 01:16:33,559
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1552
01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:35,479
Speaker 2: sure to select Fox Sports Radio is one of your

1553
01:16:35,479 --> 01:16:38,639
Speaker 2: presets in the iHeart app, so it'll always pop up

1554
01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:43,840
Speaker 2: at the top of your screen. Okay, So wow, I

1555
01:16:43,880 --> 01:16:46,120
Speaker 2: see that Alex and Bridge are ready to roll coming

1556
01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:46,639
Speaker 2: up here.

1557
01:16:46,600 --> 01:16:48,559
Speaker 4: Next they are there.

1558
01:16:48,840 --> 01:16:51,120
Speaker 2: I saw you bearing gifts for them. I dig it.

1559
01:16:51,200 --> 01:16:53,600
Speaker 4: It's Valentine's and they're good friends. I just got a

1560
01:16:53,720 --> 01:16:55,120
Speaker 4: little Valentine's.

1561
01:16:55,000 --> 01:16:59,040
Speaker 2: Thinking of everybody I try. I hope it's reciprocated.

1562
01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:01,519
Speaker 4: It is especially well.

1563
01:17:01,520 --> 01:17:03,640
Speaker 2: I know you guys are all good friends out but

1564
01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:07,960
Speaker 2: it is I just I just, you know, is it

1565
01:17:07,960 --> 01:17:10,240
Speaker 2: too much to ask like a full behind the scenes

1566
01:17:10,800 --> 01:17:14,600
Speaker 2: book or story about what you all did in San Francisco.

1567
01:17:14,680 --> 01:17:17,320
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, oh you know that because you

1568
01:17:17,360 --> 01:17:18,760
Speaker 2: know curious minds want to.

1569
01:17:18,640 --> 01:17:23,080
Speaker 3: Well, I will say, if you are on Instagram or TikTok,

1570
01:17:23,080 --> 01:17:25,479
Speaker 3: you probably did see a lot of it, really did.

1571
01:17:25,479 --> 01:17:27,559
Speaker 3: We did a lot of posting from set, a lot

1572
01:17:27,600 --> 01:17:30,599
Speaker 3: of behind the scenes. We did a lot of posting

1573
01:17:30,640 --> 01:17:33,599
Speaker 3: on our feeds and our stories, so there was a lot.

1574
01:17:34,080 --> 01:17:37,800
Speaker 3: If you were so inclined to be on the Instagram.

1575
01:17:37,360 --> 01:17:39,200
Speaker 2: How fun is that for you though, I mean for

1576
01:17:39,320 --> 01:17:42,799
Speaker 2: you and Alex Carman, so much fun you and apparently

1577
01:17:42,840 --> 01:17:44,439
Speaker 2: you had Bridget on the show as well.

1578
01:17:44,520 --> 01:17:47,360
Speaker 3: It was really fun and it was cool because people

1579
01:17:47,360 --> 01:17:49,920
Speaker 3: would walk by and stop because how often do you

1580
01:17:49,960 --> 01:17:52,919
Speaker 3: see that many women on a set talking about football?

1581
01:17:52,960 --> 01:17:55,640
Speaker 3: Not very often, so people would stop and watch. A

1582
01:17:55,760 --> 01:17:58,880
Speaker 3: major highlight for us too was Peter Herbstreet Kirk Curve

1583
01:17:58,920 --> 01:18:02,840
Speaker 3: Streets dog him up on set and we were so

1584
01:18:02,920 --> 01:18:05,080
Speaker 3: excited about that, so that was really cool.

1585
01:18:05,120 --> 01:18:06,519
Speaker 2: How old is his new dog?

1586
01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:08,160
Speaker 4: He's still one or two?

1587
01:18:08,280 --> 01:18:08,800
Speaker 2: Still? Yeah?

1588
01:18:10,040 --> 01:18:12,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, And it was that was really the most well

1589
01:18:12,280 --> 01:18:16,200
Speaker 4: behaved dog ever. But that was that was pretty cool.

1590
01:18:16,200 --> 01:18:18,360
Speaker 4: But we had so much fun. It really it was great.

1591
01:18:18,680 --> 01:18:20,920
Speaker 4: It was It was truly a blast. I feel very

1592
01:18:20,960 --> 01:18:21,479
Speaker 4: grateful too.

1593
01:18:21,560 --> 01:18:24,400
Speaker 2: Well. I I think hats off to the people here

1594
01:18:24,439 --> 01:18:27,479
Speaker 2: at Fox Sports Radio for making that decision. I would agree,

1595
01:18:27,720 --> 01:18:29,599
Speaker 2: very smart is they are smart people around here.

1596
01:18:29,680 --> 01:18:31,200
Speaker 4: There are There are a lot of smart PEOs, Bryan.

1597
01:18:32,240 --> 01:18:34,800
Speaker 2: They actually know the business and I really appreciate that

1598
01:18:34,840 --> 01:18:37,920
Speaker 2: working for people like that. All right, So are you

1599
01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:41,000
Speaker 2: going to be watching the NBA All Star whatever they

1600
01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:44,800
Speaker 2: call a game games tomorrow? Is that something? Are you

1601
01:18:44,800 --> 01:18:47,080
Speaker 2: going to be interested in the three point shooting and

1602
01:18:47,120 --> 01:18:49,880
Speaker 2: the dunk competition? I will say this, into a dome

1603
01:18:50,040 --> 01:18:53,000
Speaker 2: is an insane venue. I mean, if you have, if

1604
01:18:53,000 --> 01:18:55,280
Speaker 2: you you will, if you if you've really never seen

1605
01:18:55,320 --> 01:18:57,600
Speaker 2: into a dome, it's going to be on full display.

1606
01:18:57,920 --> 01:19:00,879
Speaker 2: Last night on on the local news, we had live shots.

1607
01:19:01,080 --> 01:19:03,480
Speaker 2: The backdrop was spectacular.

1608
01:19:03,840 --> 01:19:05,240
Speaker 4: It's a very cool stadium.

1609
01:19:05,320 --> 01:19:09,640
Speaker 3: I would say, if I'm home, I'll probably have it

1610
01:19:09,680 --> 01:19:12,960
Speaker 3: on in the background. I'm not looking at his appointment viewing,

1611
01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:15,600
Speaker 3: but if I am home, I will have it on

1612
01:19:15,680 --> 01:19:16,360
Speaker 3: in the background.

1613
01:19:17,479 --> 01:19:20,920
Speaker 2: Can I ask you about where you stand right now

1614
01:19:20,960 --> 01:19:22,600
Speaker 2: with the future of the WNBA.

1615
01:19:23,680 --> 01:19:25,720
Speaker 3: Oh wow, that's a big question for a lot of

1616
01:19:25,800 --> 01:19:27,760
Speaker 3: not that much time left. I mean, I think we

1617
01:19:27,880 --> 01:19:30,800
Speaker 3: have so much talent and so many tremendous players in

1618
01:19:30,840 --> 01:19:31,600
Speaker 3: the WNBA.

1619
01:19:31,920 --> 01:19:33,720
Speaker 2: Is there some mismanagement going on?

1620
01:19:35,160 --> 01:19:37,360
Speaker 3: So okay, I'm going to be very as I It

1621
01:19:37,439 --> 01:19:40,320
Speaker 3: seems yes, but I am not an expert on it,

1622
01:19:40,400 --> 01:19:43,679
Speaker 3: so I wouldn't want to say something about that when

1623
01:19:44,280 --> 01:19:46,679
Speaker 3: I don't know that I know everything. It does seem

1624
01:19:46,720 --> 01:19:49,639
Speaker 3: that way because you do have a tremendous talent.

1625
01:19:49,640 --> 01:19:53,040
Speaker 4: You talk about stars. There are stars in the WNBA.

1626
01:19:52,840 --> 01:19:55,799
Speaker 3: Recognizable stars back and I think that the league should

1627
01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:59,720
Speaker 3: be much bigger. I think the players should be, you know,

1628
01:19:59,800 --> 01:20:03,360
Speaker 3: much much more compensated. But I don't know all the

1629
01:20:03,360 --> 01:20:06,200
Speaker 3: ins and outs of everything. So based on what I know,

1630
01:20:07,520 --> 01:20:09,360
Speaker 3: I think things can be done better. But again I

1631
01:20:09,360 --> 01:20:11,080
Speaker 3: don't know the ins and outs of everything, so I

1632
01:20:11,120 --> 01:20:12,360
Speaker 3: don't want to miss well.

1633
01:20:12,360 --> 01:20:15,160
Speaker 2: My feeling about the WNBA is the same as Major

1634
01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:18,840
Speaker 2: League Baseball in the NBA, and that is again doing

1635
01:20:18,840 --> 01:20:23,080
Speaker 2: what makes you unique, what makes you best exploit that.

1636
01:20:23,200 --> 01:20:25,920
Speaker 2: I just I feel like the golden opportunity with Caitlin Clark,

1637
01:20:25,960 --> 01:20:28,840
Speaker 2: it's not over often and she was hurt last year

1638
01:20:28,920 --> 01:20:31,120
Speaker 2: so she missed much of the season. Hopefully she'll be

1639
01:20:31,160 --> 01:20:34,320
Speaker 2: healthy this year and get her talents back on display.

1640
01:20:34,320 --> 01:20:38,720
Speaker 2: But yeah, I just think there are things that they

1641
01:20:38,720 --> 01:20:41,680
Speaker 2: have mishandled. They can be corrected, but you need to

1642
01:20:41,720 --> 01:20:44,240
Speaker 2: make the correction. Well, I think there's still a chance

1643
01:20:44,280 --> 01:20:46,960
Speaker 2: because I support that league and it's It's something that's

1644
01:20:47,000 --> 01:20:49,120
Speaker 2: been very frustrating to me that they had a golden

1645
01:20:49,160 --> 01:20:52,439
Speaker 2: opportunity they really whiffed on a year ago. Still time

1646
01:20:52,479 --> 01:20:54,240
Speaker 2: to change that, but they're gonna have to do it immediately.

1647
01:20:54,280 --> 01:20:56,120
Speaker 3: Well, the theme I think of the show is know

1648
01:20:56,240 --> 01:20:58,960
Speaker 3: your strengths, capitalize on your strengths, and then make up

1649
01:20:59,000 --> 01:20:59,719
Speaker 3: for your weaknesses.

1650
01:21:00,160 --> 01:21:03,000
Speaker 2: Know who you are, but you have no weaknesses.

1651
01:21:03,040 --> 01:21:04,880
Speaker 4: You know, well not me and show hey, but like

1652
01:21:04,960 --> 01:21:05,800
Speaker 4: other people.

1653
01:21:05,600 --> 01:21:08,280
Speaker 2: Especially with your gear today, she is absolutely perfect as

1654
01:21:08,280 --> 01:21:11,040
Speaker 2: opposed to me. All right, get ready, Alex and Bridget

1655
01:21:11,080 --> 01:21:13,000
Speaker 2: are ready to take it over. Keep it right here.

1656
01:21:13,040 --> 01:21:14,479
Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Radio.