WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Questions Before Camp? 0:00:02.520 --> 0:00:05.080 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.120 --> 0:00:16.920 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This He's Talking Cowboys, 0:00:16.920 --> 0:00:20.319 training live from the Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the 0:00:20.360 --> 0:00:31.639 Star in Frisco. Says here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Brons, 0:00:32.000 --> 0:00:37.440 Rob Phillips and Bill Jones. What's up, Cowboys Nation? Welcome 0:00:37.440 --> 0:00:42.600 into Talking Cowboys, the final Talking Cowboys of the off season. 0:00:42.760 --> 0:00:44.320 The next time you guys join us, we'll be a 0:00:44.400 --> 0:00:48.440 training camp in Oxyard, California, late July. So things are 0:00:48.479 --> 0:00:51.199 winding up here for the off season program. Three day 0:00:51.240 --> 0:00:55.200 minicamp here at the Star starting up today Tuesday through Thursday, 0:00:55.240 --> 0:00:57.560 and then the players are off and we are kind 0:00:57.560 --> 0:01:01.520 of off as a group. Definitely is a show after 0:01:01.560 --> 0:01:04.000 this week wraps up. Rob Phillips hosting for Bill Jones. 0:01:04.520 --> 0:01:07.880 He'll probably join us here pretty soon. Temporarily. Yeah, temporarily. 0:01:07.920 --> 0:01:09.640 I'll get out. He'll kick me out of the chair soon. 0:01:10.240 --> 0:01:14.640 Mickey Spagnola, Brian brought us Kike Garrison producing next door. 0:01:14.680 --> 0:01:18.280 Good morning, gentlemen, traffic. He got stuck in traffic. It's 0:01:18.280 --> 0:01:20.560 a long way from South wake Well. There's a lot 0:01:20.600 --> 0:01:27.640 of land mines along the way. Construction. Well I heard this, 0:01:27.959 --> 0:01:29.919 how about this one for a good one? This morning 0:01:29.959 --> 0:01:34.080 on I thirty five coming south oh through Denton. Okay, 0:01:36.000 --> 0:01:40.320 it was a thirty minute backup because of rocks on 0:01:40.400 --> 0:01:43.320 the road. Sure, so when he fit, some truck just 0:01:43.600 --> 0:01:47.640 dumped the rocks that they were going landscaping with. I 0:01:47.680 --> 0:01:51.360 don't know, what do you think, Brian? Cowboys? Cowboys? Cowboys? 0:01:51.360 --> 0:01:54.880 Time lost? There's a lot of red lights out too, 0:01:55.000 --> 0:01:57.400 there are there are? Mick, All right, let's roll. You 0:01:57.440 --> 0:02:02.000 have electricity. I'm good, I'm good on our crusity. Cowboys 0:02:02.080 --> 0:02:05.560 good good? Are you trying to derail the show or 0:02:05.680 --> 0:02:08.480 are you trying to let people know why Bill's not here? 0:02:08.800 --> 0:02:10.800 He's fine, he's fine. He'll be here in a minute. 0:02:10.800 --> 0:02:12.400 But I don't know if we'll talk football by the 0:02:12.400 --> 0:02:14.079 time he gets here. Let's get to it, all right, 0:02:14.440 --> 0:02:20.600 Final Mini Camp. We've seen nine OTAs. We've seen three, well, 0:02:20.600 --> 0:02:24.480 we've seen three. They've had nine OTAs over three weeks, yes, 0:02:24.600 --> 0:02:28.920 three per week. What's your biggest takeaway from what they've 0:02:28.919 --> 0:02:32.720 accomplished so far? And knowing that they're not in pads 0:02:32.720 --> 0:02:36.520 and knowing that they're still in installation and all that stuff. 0:02:37.240 --> 0:02:39.840 What have you seen that you like, maybe something that 0:02:39.880 --> 0:02:41.239 you still need to see when you get to docks 0:02:41.280 --> 0:02:45.000 near um. I think I'll stick with my answer that 0:02:45.080 --> 0:02:48.040 I've had for the last two weeks, and I think 0:02:48.080 --> 0:02:51.400 they've improved their team speed and I think it's pretty 0:02:51.400 --> 0:02:56.880 obvious offense defense guys that can do things on special teams, 0:02:57.440 --> 0:02:59.560 and I think that's a step in the in the 0:02:59.639 --> 0:03:03.760 right direction. So from an overall standpoint, not having seen 0:03:03.840 --> 0:03:08.800 anything but a helmet on, nobody's been tackled or blocked 0:03:08.840 --> 0:03:11.160 to the ground or anything. I think that's the one 0:03:11.200 --> 0:03:14.640 thing that stood out to me. As Sanjay Law said 0:03:15.200 --> 0:03:17.880 told us last week, this is one of the wide 0:03:17.919 --> 0:03:20.560 receivers coach, one of the toughest competitions he's seen. And 0:03:20.560 --> 0:03:23.440 he's been in the league twelve years, mostly as a 0:03:23.520 --> 0:03:26.679 receiver's coach, and he said, quote, there's speed all over 0:03:26.720 --> 0:03:30.080 the place, and that's his position. But not only not 0:03:30.160 --> 0:03:32.240 just the wide receiver. Look at running back. Look how 0:03:32.280 --> 0:03:35.320 well the tight ends run. Look at some of the 0:03:35.360 --> 0:03:39.320 new guys they added on defense, the Carrie hiders and 0:03:39.560 --> 0:03:44.840 guys that can move, and even you know what they 0:03:44.880 --> 0:03:48.640 did with the defensive backs. The guys they've added, you know, 0:03:49.040 --> 0:03:53.360 Donovan Wilson's a safety, but he runs like a corner 0:03:53.440 --> 0:03:58.280 to me, so I think the team speed overall. If 0:03:58.680 --> 0:04:01.480 once you can continue run that fast when you're getting 0:04:01.520 --> 0:04:04.119 hit or you're supposed to hit U then I think 0:04:04.160 --> 0:04:07.320 that's a that's a great improvement. They've gone from receiver 0:04:07.440 --> 0:04:09.720 by committee to be one of the greatest groups he's 0:04:09.720 --> 0:04:14.560 ever coached. How about that? That shows you how far 0:04:14.640 --> 0:04:17.919 off they were. Yeah, I mean that's it. It shows 0:04:17.920 --> 0:04:21.600 you the addition that you know, with what they've done 0:04:21.680 --> 0:04:25.120 with like Mickey's talking about with Cooper during the season, 0:04:25.560 --> 0:04:28.360 Randall Cobb. Randall Cobb to me looks like he's been 0:04:28.400 --> 0:04:31.520 with Dak Prescott for three years now, the way they're 0:04:31.600 --> 0:04:34.559 kind of connecting. I noticed the ball with him going 0:04:34.640 --> 0:04:37.760 down the field. You know it's it's some underneath stuff, 0:04:37.800 --> 0:04:41.000 but it's down the field. Throws too, Randall Cobb, he 0:04:41.040 --> 0:04:43.160 has that ability to get down the field and you 0:04:43.160 --> 0:04:45.120 can see him down the field. You can see him 0:04:45.120 --> 0:04:48.080 down the field. I that's that's been the most impressive 0:04:48.120 --> 0:04:51.040 thing that I've noticed. I think the thing that takeaway 0:04:51.080 --> 0:04:54.719 that I have I think they're I think they have 0:04:54.839 --> 0:04:57.279 to be nervous and this is I don't mean to 0:04:57.279 --> 0:05:00.640 be wet blanket guy, but just my observation as as 0:05:00.680 --> 0:05:03.520 a former personnel man, I would be nervous about this. 0:05:04.320 --> 0:05:07.480 I would be nervous about all the depth and competition 0:05:07.560 --> 0:05:11.680 that I've created, but I'm not sure about my backup quarterbacks. 0:05:12.120 --> 0:05:17.279 I haven't seen one of them really take the bull 0:05:17.320 --> 0:05:20.080 by the horns. And that's where I think when we 0:05:20.160 --> 0:05:25.560 get to Oxnard and every day and practices and meetings 0:05:25.600 --> 0:05:29.080 and games, that we will see hopefully that one of 0:05:29.080 --> 0:05:33.680 these guys emerges. I think backup quarterback is a very 0:05:33.760 --> 0:05:37.799 underrated part of your team. But just think about it again, 0:05:38.000 --> 0:05:41.920 this organization has been very fortunate last several last three 0:05:42.000 --> 0:05:45.719 years to play with a indestructible quarterback. He plays a 0:05:45.720 --> 0:05:48.320 game of physical style. He gets hit, he runs around, 0:05:48.760 --> 0:05:52.279 he delivers, blows themselves. He's tough inside the five yard 0:05:52.360 --> 0:05:55.040 line running. But I think this one of those spots 0:05:55.040 --> 0:05:58.479 that can derail your team quickly, more quickly than anything. 0:05:59.040 --> 0:06:01.919 And I think that if there was a concern that 0:06:02.080 --> 0:06:06.600 I have going in is who is going to be 0:06:06.760 --> 0:06:09.880 my backup quarterback? Because I don't want this to be 0:06:10.000 --> 0:06:13.760 something where I've planned and done all these wonderful things 0:06:13.800 --> 0:06:16.800 to get this roster in a good shape, but then 0:06:16.880 --> 0:06:19.520 not be able to have somebody And is it one 0:06:19.520 --> 0:06:21.600 of these guys or is it we're going to have 0:06:21.680 --> 0:06:25.599 to spend some money on a veteran guy to be 0:06:25.680 --> 0:06:29.320 a caretaker as they progressed through this season. Your point's 0:06:29.360 --> 0:06:34.000 well taken, because excuse me, can they, with their numbers 0:06:34.040 --> 0:06:36.560 and with the depth they have across the roster keep 0:06:36.680 --> 0:06:39.599 three quarterbacks? And if they only keep two, you know 0:06:39.640 --> 0:06:42.200 they kept two in the past, going back a decade 0:06:42.279 --> 0:06:44.480 or so, when Romo was the quarterback they had, they 0:06:44.480 --> 0:06:46.880 had one backup right, correct me if I'm wrong, and 0:06:46.880 --> 0:06:49.760 it was Kittna. They were veteran guys that they were 0:06:49.800 --> 0:06:52.280 they were comfortable with that had done it in the league, Kittena, 0:06:52.400 --> 0:06:55.520 Kyle Orton, Brandon Whedon And so would you be comfortable 0:06:55.520 --> 0:06:59.560 going with just one young guy behind Dak and I, Mick, 0:06:59.600 --> 0:07:00.760 I kind of look at it a little bit like 0:07:00.800 --> 0:07:02.880 the running back all this talk we had leading up 0:07:02.920 --> 0:07:05.880 to the draft. You know what happens if something happens 0:07:05.880 --> 0:07:07.919 to Zeke? Well, Zeke never misses a snap, but what 0:07:08.000 --> 0:07:10.360 if something does? Yeah, you got don't you have to 0:07:10.400 --> 0:07:12.880 look at the same to the same prison as Dak 0:07:13.120 --> 0:07:15.200 even though he's never missed a snap dude injury. I 0:07:15.240 --> 0:07:18.640 don't think the problem is you've kind of boxed yourself 0:07:18.680 --> 0:07:21.480 into a corner at this point. I mean, what's out 0:07:21.520 --> 0:07:27.040 there all right? And now, having said that, there's gonna 0:07:27.080 --> 0:07:29.640 be more out there at some point with the quarterbacks 0:07:29.680 --> 0:07:32.840 that were drafted, so it's teams are gonna cut somebody 0:07:32.880 --> 0:07:36.040 that Connor Cook got let go yesterday. I think that's 0:07:36.040 --> 0:07:38.280 a guy and I know that, yeah, that's a guy 0:07:38.280 --> 0:07:40.880 that got That's a guy that they liked it. And actually, 0:07:40.880 --> 0:07:42.679 if you look at their draft board, they had Connor 0:07:42.720 --> 0:07:45.480 Cook above Dak Prescott on their draft. They were trying 0:07:45.480 --> 0:07:47.760 to get them right. There's a list of a small 0:07:47.800 --> 0:07:50.680 list of guys leading up to the fourth round. There'll 0:07:50.720 --> 0:07:53.720 be some other guys get cut along the way. But again, 0:07:54.600 --> 0:08:03.040 you know, oh xfl XFLFL. I love that song, though, 0:08:03.120 --> 0:08:05.920 kent that excuse me? Yeah? You know the thing about 0:08:05.960 --> 0:08:10.760 though to your point, Robert, I think that when you 0:08:10.800 --> 0:08:14.000 look at running back, it's an easier position to plug 0:08:14.000 --> 0:08:16.840 in and player and play. Sure. I think that you know, 0:08:16.880 --> 0:08:19.720 the the James Connors of the world, and people like 0:08:19.840 --> 0:08:22.880 that that have stepped in and played for a big 0:08:22.880 --> 0:08:24.880 time run. Is it the same. I'm not going to 0:08:24.920 --> 0:08:26.720 sit here and blow smoke up your rear and act 0:08:26.760 --> 0:08:29.040 like it is. That's not That's not what I'm trying 0:08:29.080 --> 0:08:31.560 to do here. I just think that you're better equipped 0:08:32.120 --> 0:08:35.000 to you know, I feel like that. Yeah, Okay, let's 0:08:35.559 --> 0:08:39.440 let's see, Paula, let's see where. Let's see. Jackson's been 0:08:39.480 --> 0:08:42.400 the guy all the practices that we've watched. You know, 0:08:42.600 --> 0:08:45.040 Jackson has been kind of a forgotten guy. And if 0:08:45.080 --> 0:08:47.440 you talk to Jackson in the locker room, which everybody 0:08:47.840 --> 0:08:50.400 in this room has, he'll tell you. He goes, hey, 0:08:50.640 --> 0:08:53.880 this is the best I've felt. So is it? Is 0:08:53.880 --> 0:08:57.040 it the most ideal situation? Can you can you get 0:08:57.080 --> 0:09:01.280 by with having receivers and DAK and a backup running back? 0:09:01.760 --> 0:09:04.520 I think you might be better equipped to handle that 0:09:05.240 --> 0:09:08.880 than you are having to play with a backup quarterback 0:09:08.960 --> 0:09:11.840 that you really don't know. I have more questions, This 0:09:11.920 --> 0:09:14.480 is crazy. I have more questions about the quarterback that 0:09:14.520 --> 0:09:16.280 I do the running back, just because I think I 0:09:16.320 --> 0:09:18.800 think you could plug and play well. Yeah, and there's 0:09:18.800 --> 0:09:22.160 also opportunity to play another back. You can spell seek 0:09:22.240 --> 0:09:24.640 within the offense. You can't sit Dak Prescott down. And 0:09:24.840 --> 0:09:27.440 to your point, how many Pro Bowl running backs this 0:09:27.520 --> 0:09:31.240 year were third, fourth round or later. I think Philip 0:09:31.240 --> 0:09:33.800 Lindsay was undrafted. I mean absolutely, you can find guys 0:09:34.040 --> 0:09:36.600 in the day two or three. It's not perfect. It's 0:09:36.679 --> 0:09:39.959 not perfect, but it's the one position where you feel 0:09:40.000 --> 0:09:43.240 like you can play a guy that has no experience 0:09:44.120 --> 0:09:46.800 and make it work. You know, if you have the 0:09:46.840 --> 0:09:49.280 offensive line, if you have the receivers, if you have 0:09:49.360 --> 0:09:51.920 the quarterback to be able to move the team the 0:09:51.960 --> 0:09:55.400 way that Dak Prescott can. So do you want to 0:09:56.040 --> 0:09:58.760 see what these guys do or do you want to 0:09:58.800 --> 0:10:02.199 bring in somebody right away? I start training camps. I'm 0:10:02.440 --> 0:10:04.719 willing to. I'm willing and I'm not gonna say rule 0:10:04.760 --> 0:10:07.000 the dice because it's not a dice role. It's just 0:10:07.040 --> 0:10:11.120 a straight evaluation. I'm gonna say, Okay, I'm gonna look 0:10:11.160 --> 0:10:12.520 at this. I'm gonna look at three. You know, they're 0:10:12.520 --> 0:10:14.840 gonna have plenty of games to play. The preseason games 0:10:14.840 --> 0:10:16.839 they got four of them. Ye, it's got some good 0:10:16.880 --> 0:10:19.400 competition they're going to play. You know, the San Francisco 0:10:19.520 --> 0:10:22.640 defense will be better uh, playing the Rams. You know, 0:10:22.640 --> 0:10:25.280 the Rams always give their defense their rosters better, so 0:10:25.600 --> 0:10:29.439 you will see these guys compete against good defenses and 0:10:30.120 --> 0:10:32.440 to be able to evaluate from there. And I'm okay 0:10:32.480 --> 0:10:36.120 with I'm okay with the mccounts, you know, or that 0:10:36.520 --> 0:10:38.800 type of player. But to be honest with you, again, 0:10:39.000 --> 0:10:41.520 Kaepernick's a whole nother thing. But I'm just saying that 0:10:41.640 --> 0:10:46.800 to me, I'm willing to give Mike White and Cooper 0:10:46.880 --> 0:10:50.880 Rush an opportunity in workouts to prove to me that 0:10:50.920 --> 0:10:54.160 they can be the number two guy and and be 0:10:54.600 --> 0:10:57.480 if something were to happen that I feel good enough like, Okay, 0:10:57.520 --> 0:10:59.480 this is who we're gonna go play with, and this 0:10:59.480 --> 0:11:01.280 is how we're going to win games and have that plan. 0:11:01.360 --> 0:11:03.960 Because the last time we went through this and they 0:11:04.040 --> 0:11:07.040 brought somebody in right mid stream, right, I don't want 0:11:07.040 --> 0:11:09.840 to hear the bs about well, he wasn't here, he 0:11:09.880 --> 0:11:15.040 didn't know the system. Who was the guy? Who was 0:11:15.080 --> 0:11:17.920 the guy that they brought in midstream? Oh? Why are 0:11:17.920 --> 0:11:19.920 you staring at me? I was tried. I was trying 0:11:19.960 --> 0:11:22.120 to buy myself some time to think of his name. 0:11:22.520 --> 0:11:27.959 The guy they brought in from New England castle or two. 0:11:28.040 --> 0:11:32.960 That's a euphemism for it. The guy sucks that, you know, 0:11:33.040 --> 0:11:36.600 he is not wrong about that. You laugh, I know, 0:11:36.800 --> 0:11:40.440 but delivery was great. No, no, no, no, but he's 0:11:40.440 --> 0:11:42.719 not wrong. I mean, you gotta want to hear that, 0:11:43.360 --> 0:11:46.760 you know, I don't want to hear well normally, Yeah, 0:11:46.920 --> 0:11:49.320 is he playing? Let me ask you that, Vicky if 0:11:49.880 --> 0:11:52.080 and I mean this in all sinceria, I'm not trying to, 0:11:52.520 --> 0:11:54.480 but do you feel like they need to bring a guy? 0:11:54.559 --> 0:11:56.800 Do you feel like they need a well McCown now 0:11:57.360 --> 0:12:00.040 even well, because if you say you're gonna bring a 0:12:00.200 --> 0:12:03.640 count in, that just tells me that you don't think 0:12:03.679 --> 0:12:06.600 that Cooper Rush or Mike White can play. I think 0:12:06.679 --> 0:12:11.360 I think at this point, since you've rode this train 0:12:11.880 --> 0:12:14.280 this far, you got to kind of see it through 0:12:14.320 --> 0:12:16.800 a little bit more sure. And then if it's a 0:12:16.880 --> 0:12:19.520 veteran guy, you know, if you got the right guy, 0:12:19.679 --> 0:12:23.400 and obviously you're not bringing in Nick Foles, right, but 0:12:23.600 --> 0:12:28.440 you would hope. Yeah, he should be able to adapt. 0:12:28.480 --> 0:12:31.079 If he can still play right, if he can play 0:12:31.120 --> 0:12:33.319 better than these young guys, then he should be able 0:12:33.360 --> 0:12:35.319 to by There's some questions if Nick Foles could play, 0:12:35.400 --> 0:12:38.640 Remember that week's seventeen game against Dallas good luck. Yeah 0:12:38.640 --> 0:12:42.880 it was. It was, didn't Peterson say? Get ready? Yeah, 0:12:42.920 --> 0:12:45.000 you know the thing once they get to the playoffs 0:12:45.480 --> 0:12:47.280 and if they were to make a move for a 0:12:47.360 --> 0:12:51.319 veteran quarterback back up. And let's let's also remember when 0:12:51.360 --> 0:12:54.959 he got to the playoffs that first game to score 0:12:55.040 --> 0:12:57.640 fifteen points. Yeah, it took a goal line stop basically 0:12:57.679 --> 0:13:01.600 to get him get one down because he recovered a 0:13:01.640 --> 0:13:04.200 botched fumble at the one yard line. Yeah, well this 0:13:04.320 --> 0:13:06.520 is an aside. But they, to me it was coaching. 0:13:06.559 --> 0:13:09.679 I mean, they made him comfortable. They they implemented some 0:13:09.800 --> 0:13:11.760 zone read stuff and it got him rolling a little bit. 0:13:11.840 --> 0:13:13.640 Rams did a great job with their guy. That guy 0:13:13.679 --> 0:13:15.520 looked like if it was one more year for that guy, 0:13:15.559 --> 0:13:17.840 he might have not golf might not. But but yeah, 0:13:17.880 --> 0:13:20.720 Mickey's points, Well, man, I I just kind of I don't. 0:13:20.920 --> 0:13:22.559 I don't want to be the wet blanket guy. But 0:13:22.840 --> 0:13:25.560 there's so many there's so many good positive things about 0:13:25.559 --> 0:13:28.959 this roster that in so many nice little battles and 0:13:29.400 --> 0:13:31.480 things that you could you could focus on. And if 0:13:31.920 --> 0:13:34.880 if the football gods smile on him through training camp 0:13:34.920 --> 0:13:39.280 and and and go through without serious problems, then you 0:13:39.320 --> 0:13:42.760 know it'll be it'll be fun to see. But if 0:13:42.800 --> 0:13:46.520 you if you ask me, what's my biggest concern just 0:13:46.600 --> 0:13:50.760 evaluation going in, that would be the one position that 0:13:50.920 --> 0:13:53.120 I would worry about the most. Well, to Mickey's point, 0:13:53.360 --> 0:13:56.520 they did try Castle. They tried Sanchez still out there, 0:13:56.559 --> 0:13:58.880 but it didn't. It didn't leave him out there too. 0:13:59.000 --> 0:14:01.240 It didn't work, and so and it worked with Dak, 0:14:01.520 --> 0:14:04.080 and so they're trying to use this philosophy of develop 0:14:04.240 --> 0:14:06.880 behind him. They got to see if it works. As 0:14:06.880 --> 0:14:09.640 of three weeks ago, they said what we heard basically 0:14:09.760 --> 0:14:13.160 was these guys need to work. Dak needs reps. Right, 0:14:13.480 --> 0:14:15.480 let's just let them. We don't need a fourth guy 0:14:15.600 --> 0:14:19.440 right now. Right, Well, the gods have just smiled on 0:14:19.520 --> 0:14:25.960 us too. Did you guys need showers? Back to quarterback. 0:14:26.600 --> 0:14:28.520 I put in the mail bag last week that I 0:14:28.560 --> 0:14:31.040 always thought he had a little something there, would you? 0:14:31.080 --> 0:14:34.320 Would you? And then sixteen we had him ahead of 0:14:35.120 --> 0:14:37.840 ahead of Prescott going into training camp. See that's what 0:14:37.880 --> 0:14:40.880 I'm saying, you know, if you were to mean yourself, 0:14:41.440 --> 0:14:44.040 but you know, but but showers make He made some places, 0:14:44.080 --> 0:14:45.880 been making a couple of plays here and there. You know, 0:14:45.920 --> 0:14:49.520 he's the guys I'm saying, he's been you know, he's 0:14:49.520 --> 0:14:51.600 been on the same plan as the injured guys, as 0:14:51.600 --> 0:14:54.960 those veteran guys where he practices two times and sits out. 0:14:54.960 --> 0:14:56.920 One told me he should be good to go for 0:14:57.040 --> 0:14:59.680 day one a camp. That's the goal. See now full go. 0:15:00.240 --> 0:15:02.160 He has to feel like that, you know what, he's 0:15:02.200 --> 0:15:04.960 out of practice, squad availability. How long can you stay 0:15:04.960 --> 0:15:09.040 on the prods? Is he done? He's done, he's he's like, 0:15:09.200 --> 0:15:12.600 he's back now he is, he's he is a he's 0:15:12.600 --> 0:15:18.680 a red shirt senior and he's what if you graduate, 0:15:18.720 --> 0:15:21.920 do you get another year? Yeah, he's a graduate transfer. 0:15:22.000 --> 0:15:25.560 He's not in the transfer portal either. But you know 0:15:25.760 --> 0:15:29.360 it's yeah, you can't. But if you needed a fourth 0:15:29.480 --> 0:15:32.280 quarterback at camp, that'd be hard to jerk him around 0:15:32.320 --> 0:15:33.840 like that, wouldn't it and send him back. You know, 0:15:34.520 --> 0:15:37.040 Kellen Moore is you're and John Kittney he's fourth and 0:15:37.040 --> 0:15:39.760 fifth quarterbacks. But if you think about you think about here, 0:15:40.040 --> 0:15:42.880 that's never happened, right there's fourth, third, and six right there. 0:15:43.160 --> 0:15:46.040 That's a tough transition back to QB though, don't you think, well, 0:15:46.040 --> 0:15:48.760 he's the fourth guy. Yeah. I mean he again, he's 0:15:48.800 --> 0:15:51.480 out of he's out of his you know what, to 0:15:51.520 --> 0:15:53.840 do him a favor that maybe he can get on 0:15:53.880 --> 0:15:57.000 with another team or maybe make this team. Just let him. 0:15:57.440 --> 0:16:01.560 We're having Jamille Showers talk. We're and cowboys. You're in trouble. 0:16:01.600 --> 0:16:03.760 If that's your savior, that's all. No. No, I was 0:16:03.800 --> 0:16:07.080 just saying though about a guy that that if you were, 0:16:07.200 --> 0:16:09.160 if you were honestly looking for a guy, if you 0:16:09.200 --> 0:16:12.840 said okay instead of bringing somebody in, you know, and 0:16:12.880 --> 0:16:14.560 you and you want the other two to get all 0:16:14.560 --> 0:16:17.320 the reps. That's that's how That's what I'm talking about. 0:16:17.320 --> 0:16:19.960 I'm gonna give you the rains bill. But we were discussing, No, 0:16:20.160 --> 0:16:22.280 you can you can keep no you know, did you 0:16:22.320 --> 0:16:25.600 have a flat tire? No? I had to traffic issues. 0:16:25.720 --> 0:16:28.480 I mean, it was a stalemate on one twenty one 0:16:28.560 --> 0:16:32.800 North this morning, a stalemates. It was a parking lot there, yep, 0:16:33.200 --> 0:16:35.320 at Carlton Parkway at one twenty one. You can go 0:16:35.400 --> 0:16:40.960 check it if you'd like. Bicky how he will. It's amazing, though, 0:16:41.160 --> 0:16:45.560 how one little traffic accident can stop one lane on 0:16:45.880 --> 0:16:48.600 it destroys everybody's morning. I mean, there are so many 0:16:48.600 --> 0:16:51.160 people late for work this morning, so you leave early. 0:16:51.720 --> 0:16:56.120 I left it ways hour early. Best step ever. I 0:16:56.200 --> 0:17:00.160 knew I could. I knew it was covering. But what 0:17:00.400 --> 0:17:02.240 you get once you get to that point, it's going 0:17:02.320 --> 0:17:06.800 to take just as long going around Cowboy? Oh god? 0:17:06.840 --> 0:17:09.399 All right, back on the road. So what about you? Huh? 0:17:09.520 --> 0:17:14.920 What was what I told you last week? Speed? Okay? 0:17:15.000 --> 0:17:18.520 Stuck out to me. What do you have? Ro? I 0:17:18.560 --> 0:17:21.360 actually don't know the question, but no, it's good, good, good. 0:17:21.480 --> 0:17:24.680 We were discussing what's what's a takeaway from from OTA's 0:17:24.840 --> 0:17:26.720 And now we get into minicamp here, which is pretty 0:17:26.800 --> 0:17:30.480 much the same structure as we've seen, also a different name. Yeah, 0:17:30.520 --> 0:17:33.000 pretty much? What else? And for three days straight that 0:17:33.080 --> 0:17:36.440 we get to actually watch what do you need to see? Still, 0:17:36.560 --> 0:17:39.080 when they get to Oxnard and Brian said, backup quarterback 0:17:39.560 --> 0:17:42.040 based on what we've seen so far, and one more thing. 0:17:42.080 --> 0:17:43.480 I want to ask you about that and I'll answer 0:17:43.480 --> 0:17:48.080 your question. But yeah, better Mike White what he's he's 0:17:48.119 --> 0:17:50.760 the younger guy. Have you seen more from him? That's 0:17:50.760 --> 0:17:52.840 the problem? No, No, you have no, I haven't. I 0:17:52.880 --> 0:17:56.360 haven't seen no improvement. And so I haven't seen very 0:17:56.359 --> 0:17:59.640 He looks very similar to Mike White that last year. 0:18:00.440 --> 0:18:02.760 I was hopeful that he would go out there and 0:18:03.480 --> 0:18:06.679 pitch it around and move the team. It was. To 0:18:06.720 --> 0:18:08.800 be honest, I was glad to see Jason Garrett. The 0:18:08.880 --> 0:18:11.840 last time we got to watch practice. Jason Garrett basically 0:18:12.040 --> 0:18:14.320 pulled the huddle back and said, hey, you're in charge 0:18:14.320 --> 0:18:16.520 of this. You know, you're the one that running this, 0:18:16.600 --> 0:18:19.119 You're the quarterback. Step up and be the quarter you know. 0:18:19.359 --> 0:18:21.040 He got on him a little bit and I and 0:18:21.080 --> 0:18:24.159 I was like, thank god, you know, somebody waked this 0:18:24.240 --> 0:18:26.879 kid up, because if you watched him playing great opportunity 0:18:26.920 --> 0:18:29.240 sitting in he does. He does. And that's what worries 0:18:29.320 --> 0:18:31.800 me a little bit. That Mike White that was, you know, 0:18:31.840 --> 0:18:34.639 Western Kentucky Mike White is not the same Mike White 0:18:34.640 --> 0:18:36.720 that I'm seeing here with the Dallas Cowboys, and that 0:18:36.720 --> 0:18:39.520 that and I gave him last year. I understand that, 0:18:40.000 --> 0:18:42.640 but I'm kind of seeing some of the same things 0:18:42.680 --> 0:18:45.960 that I saw with Mike White last year. Those are 0:18:45.960 --> 0:18:49.840 the concerns with coming out of that system in college. 0:18:50.000 --> 0:18:52.960 You know, you just really don't know for sure or 0:18:52.960 --> 0:18:56.160 what you've got and whether it's Mike White, whether it's whoever, 0:18:56.240 --> 0:18:59.360 it might be going back since since that offense came 0:18:59.400 --> 0:19:03.960 into the college football. You just don't know what you have, 0:19:04.359 --> 0:19:07.119 right for sure. You know, it is the hardest position 0:19:07.160 --> 0:19:10.040 to evaluate, and I'll stay on that track, Mickey, Okay, 0:19:10.080 --> 0:19:13.320 my answer is maybe kind of obvious. Dak Prescott, this 0:19:13.400 --> 0:19:16.000 is to me the best stretch of OTA's now four 0:19:16.080 --> 0:19:19.600 years now with him four offseasons that I've seen him 0:19:19.680 --> 0:19:21.800 have in terms of you know, we got a question 0:19:21.880 --> 0:19:25.240 yesterday about accuracy, just his command. I get that it's 0:19:25.240 --> 0:19:28.960 not totally live, but he just seems extremely comfortable. He 0:19:29.000 --> 0:19:30.959 has been accurate at all levels of the field. We've 0:19:31.000 --> 0:19:34.520 seen him make throws deep, intermediate, short, There's just a 0:19:34.560 --> 0:19:36.680 comfort level that you see, and I wonder how much 0:19:36.680 --> 0:19:41.000 of it is just a more stable receiving corps. That's 0:19:41.000 --> 0:19:43.600 what I wonder, you know, because I just made the list, 0:19:43.800 --> 0:19:45.639 you know, last year. I mean, these guys were vying 0:19:45.880 --> 0:19:47.720 not only to make the team, but to be top 0:19:47.800 --> 0:19:52.399 targets for him. Postez Deante Thompson, Tavon Austin, Michael Gallup, 0:19:52.440 --> 0:19:54.440 Alan Hearns. He didn't know any of these guys, Plus 0:19:54.440 --> 0:19:58.320 he had three four tight ends that really hadn't done 0:19:58.400 --> 0:20:00.960 much in the league other than Jeff Swain. It's just 0:20:01.040 --> 0:20:04.120 a better, more experienced group. And now he's also got 0:20:04.119 --> 0:20:05.800 time on task with a Pro Bowl receiver that they 0:20:05.840 --> 0:20:07.919 got at mid season last year, not not it's been 0:20:08.040 --> 0:20:10.320 night and day for sure. And how much do you 0:20:10.359 --> 0:20:14.040 think it helps him even and Brian when you look 0:20:14.320 --> 0:20:18.480 when he's able to study his receivers and what they're 0:20:18.480 --> 0:20:22.119 comfortable doing, Like he's got an Amari Cooper and he's 0:20:22.160 --> 0:20:25.840 got four years worth of NFL stuff on tape from 0:20:25.960 --> 0:20:28.800 him that he can actually look at him and see 0:20:28.960 --> 0:20:32.200 and how that translates even to practice and North Randall 0:20:32.200 --> 0:20:35.200 Cobb coming in here. I think it's just it increases 0:20:35.240 --> 0:20:37.560 his confidence level with these guys. Plus he's now got 0:20:37.560 --> 0:20:41.159 a full year working with Michael Gallup and and that's 0:20:41.160 --> 0:20:43.840 my big takeaway too what I've seen, it looks like 0:20:43.920 --> 0:20:51.000 he is playing with a confidence and too, well, those 0:20:51.040 --> 0:20:53.760 guys know what they're doing, that they got a year 0:20:53.840 --> 0:20:56.159 under their belt, and you know that the receiver is 0:20:56.200 --> 0:20:57.840 going to be in a certain spot. That's what I'm 0:20:58.080 --> 0:21:00.440 played half the season last year with two tight ends 0:21:00.480 --> 0:21:04.040 who hadn't played in the National Football League. No thanks 0:21:04.160 --> 0:21:11.320 about that, that's right, And then Rico and everybody goes silent. Yeah, 0:21:11.880 --> 0:21:14.159 I'm just saying, look at and yeah, look who you 0:21:14.200 --> 0:21:18.400 were playing last year at this time without Cooper. Yeah. Well, 0:21:18.440 --> 0:21:21.240 they just they consciously went with that receiver by committee 0:21:21.320 --> 0:21:23.520 last offseason and then the went and thinks surprised them 0:21:24.200 --> 0:21:26.040 basically around draft time. I don't know if they really 0:21:26.040 --> 0:21:27.560 thought he was gonna hang it up and then he did. 0:21:27.600 --> 0:21:29.000 Can I ask the question of the group, why do 0:21:29.040 --> 0:21:31.679 you think they went receiver by committee? What? What do 0:21:31.720 --> 0:21:33.240 you think Do you think that there was so much 0:21:33.280 --> 0:21:37.439 confidence in Dak that Dad could make these receivers or 0:21:37.520 --> 0:21:40.760