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Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This He's Talking Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: training live from the Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the

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Speaker 1: Star in Frisco. Says here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Brons,

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Speaker 1: Rob Phillips and Bill Jones. What's up, Cowboys Nation? Welcome

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Speaker 1: into Talking Cowboys, the final Talking Cowboys of the off season.

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Speaker 1: The next time you guys join us, we'll be a

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Speaker 1: training camp in Oxyard, California, late July. So things are

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Speaker 1: winding up here for the off season program. Three day

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Speaker 1: minicamp here at the Star starting up today Tuesday through Thursday,

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Speaker 1: and then the players are off and we are kind

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Speaker 1: of off as a group. Definitely is a show after

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Speaker 1: this week wraps up. Rob Phillips hosting for Bill Jones.

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Speaker 1: He'll probably join us here pretty soon. Temporarily. Yeah, temporarily.

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Speaker 1: I'll get out. He'll kick me out of the chair soon.

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Speaker 1: Mickey Spagnola, Brian brought us Kike Garrison producing next door.

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Speaker 1: Good morning, gentlemen, traffic. He got stuck in traffic. It's

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Speaker 1: a long way from South wake Well. There's a lot

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Speaker 1: of land mines along the way. Construction. Well I heard this,

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Speaker 1: how about this one for a good one? This morning

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Speaker 1: on I thirty five coming south oh through Denton. Okay,

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Speaker 1: it was a thirty minute backup because of rocks on

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Speaker 1: the road. Sure, so when he fit, some truck just

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Speaker 1: dumped the rocks that they were going landscaping with. I

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Speaker 1: don't know, what do you think, Brian? Cowboys? Cowboys? Cowboys?

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Speaker 1: Time lost? There's a lot of red lights out too,

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Speaker 1: there are there are? Mick, All right, let's roll. You

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Speaker 1: have electricity. I'm good, I'm good on our crusity. Cowboys

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Speaker 1: good good? Are you trying to derail the show or

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Speaker 1: are you trying to let people know why Bill's not here?

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Speaker 1: He's fine, he's fine. He'll be here in a minute.

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Speaker 1: But I don't know if we'll talk football by the

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Speaker 1: time he gets here. Let's get to it, all right,

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Speaker 1: Final Mini Camp. We've seen nine OTAs. We've seen three, well,

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Speaker 1: we've seen three. They've had nine OTAs over three weeks, yes,

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Speaker 1: three per week. What's your biggest takeaway from what they've

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Speaker 1: accomplished so far? And knowing that they're not in pads

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Speaker 1: and knowing that they're still in installation and all that stuff.

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Speaker 1: What have you seen that you like, maybe something that

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Speaker 1: you still need to see when you get to docks

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Speaker 1: near um. I think I'll stick with my answer that

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Speaker 1: I've had for the last two weeks, and I think

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Speaker 1: they've improved their team speed and I think it's pretty

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Speaker 1: obvious offense defense guys that can do things on special teams,

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Speaker 1: and I think that's a step in the in the

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Speaker 1: right direction. So from an overall standpoint, not having seen

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Speaker 1: anything but a helmet on, nobody's been tackled or blocked

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Speaker 1: to the ground or anything. I think that's the one

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Speaker 1: thing that stood out to me. As Sanjay Law said

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Speaker 1: told us last week, this is one of the wide

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Speaker 1: receivers coach, one of the toughest competitions he's seen. And

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Speaker 1: he's been in the league twelve years, mostly as a

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Speaker 1: receiver's coach, and he said, quote, there's speed all over

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Speaker 1: the place, and that's his position. But not only not

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Speaker 1: just the wide receiver. Look at running back. Look how

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Speaker 1: well the tight ends run. Look at some of the

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Speaker 1: new guys they added on defense, the Carrie hiders and

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Speaker 1: guys that can move, and even you know what they

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Speaker 1: did with the defensive backs. The guys they've added, you know,

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Speaker 1: Donovan Wilson's a safety, but he runs like a corner

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Speaker 1: to me, so I think the team speed overall. If

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Speaker 1: once you can continue run that fast when you're getting

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Speaker 1: that's a that's a great improvement. They've gone from receiver

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Speaker 1: by committee to be one of the greatest groups he's

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Speaker 1: ever coached. How about that? That shows you how far

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Speaker 1: you the addition that you know, with what they've done

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Speaker 1: Randall Cobb. Randall Cobb to me looks like he's been

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Speaker 1: with Dak Prescott for three years now, the way they're

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Speaker 1: kind of connecting. I noticed the ball with him going

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Speaker 1: I would be nervous about all the depth and competition

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Speaker 1: I haven't seen one of them really take the bull

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Speaker 1: these guys emerges. I think backup quarterback is a very

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Speaker 1: game of physical style. He gets hit, he runs around,

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Speaker 1: he delivers, blows themselves. He's tough inside the five yard

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Speaker 1: line running. But I think this one of those spots

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Speaker 1: And I think that if there was a concern that

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Speaker 1: something where I've planned and done all these wonderful things

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Speaker 1: not be able to have somebody And is it one

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Speaker 1: to spend some money on a veteran guy to be

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Speaker 1: a caretaker as they progressed through this season. Your point's

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Speaker 1: well taken, because excuse me, can they, with their numbers

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Speaker 1: three quarterbacks? And if they only keep two, you know

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Speaker 1: they kept two in the past, going back a decade

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Speaker 1: or so, when Romo was the quarterback they had, they

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Speaker 1: had one backup right, correct me if I'm wrong, and

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Speaker 1: it was Kittna. They were veteran guys that they were

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Speaker 1: they were comfortable with that had done it in the league, Kittena,

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Speaker 1: Kyle Orton, Brandon Whedon And so would you be comfortable

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Speaker 1: going with just one young guy behind Dak and I, Mick,

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Speaker 1: I kind of look at it a little bit like

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Speaker 1: the running back all this talk we had leading up

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Speaker 1: don't think the problem is you've kind of boxed yourself

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Speaker 1: if you look at their draft board, they had Connor

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Speaker 1: to get them right. There's a list of a small

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Speaker 1: list of guys leading up to the fourth round. There'll

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Speaker 1: be some other guys get cut along the way. But again,

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Speaker 1: kent that excuse me? Yeah? You know the thing about

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Speaker 1: though to your point, Robert, I think that when you

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Speaker 1: look at running back, it's an easier position to plug

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Speaker 1: in and player and play. Sure. I think that you know,

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Speaker 1: that that have stepped in and played for a big

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Speaker 1: time run. Is it the same. I'm not going to

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Speaker 1: sit here and blow smoke up your rear and act

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Speaker 1: like it is. That's not That's not what I'm trying

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Speaker 1: to do here. I just think that you're better equipped

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Speaker 1: let's see, Paula, let's see where. Let's see. Jackson's been

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Speaker 1: the guy all the practices that we've watched. You know,

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Speaker 1: this is the best I've felt. So is it? Is

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Speaker 1: it the most ideal situation? Can you can you get

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Speaker 1: by with having receivers and DAK and a backup running back?

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Speaker 1: I think you might be better equipped to handle that

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Speaker 1: that you really don't know. I have more questions, This

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Speaker 1: I do the running back, just because I think I

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Speaker 1: think you could plug and play well. Yeah, and there's

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Speaker 1: also opportunity to play another back. You can spell seek

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Speaker 1: within the offense. You can't sit Dak Prescott down. And

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Speaker 1: to your point, how many Pro Bowl running backs this

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Speaker 1: way that Dak Prescott can. So do you want to

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Speaker 1: bring in somebody right away? I start training camps. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna have plenty of games to play. The preseason games

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Speaker 1: competition they're going to play. You know, the San Francisco

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Speaker 1: defense will be better uh, playing the Rams. You know,

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Speaker 1: Kaepernick's a whole nother thing. But I'm just saying that

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Speaker 1: Rush an opportunity in workouts to prove to me that

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Speaker 1: they can be the number two guy and and be

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Speaker 1: if something were to happen that I feel good enough like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: this is who we're gonna go play with, and this

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Speaker 1: is how we're going to win games and have that plan.

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Speaker 1: Because the last time we went through this and they

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Speaker 1: to hear the bs about well, he wasn't here, he

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Speaker 1: didn't know the system. Who was the guy? Who was

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Speaker 1: the guy that they brought in midstream? Oh? Why are

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Speaker 1: The guy they brought in from New England castle or two.

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Speaker 1: That's a euphemism for it. The guy sucks that, you know,

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Speaker 1: he is not wrong about that. You laugh, I know,

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Speaker 1: but do you feel like they need to bring a guy?

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Speaker 1: We're having Jamille Showers talk. We're and cowboys. You're in trouble.

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Speaker 1: You gotta go receiver by committee now, So you think

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Speaker 1: that you're saying this the the lack of movement on

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Speaker 1: Dez was the reason why they went by committee. I

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Speaker 1: to be able to carry that group. That's kind of

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Speaker 1: where I think that. Yeah, and then you brought up

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Speaker 1: name mean and don't include Beasley in there? The starting

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Speaker 1: We're talking cowboys. We were talking NBA Finals during the break,

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Speaker 1: but we don't need to carry that over to talking

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Speaker 1: cowboys because about hockey. This nella, Yeah, you get games

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Speaker 1: seven on Wednesday night in Boston. Cowboys and the Rangers

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Speaker 1: are in Boston and they twitcher game at three o'clock

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Speaker 1: on Wednesday, so that everybody I can go to the

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Speaker 1: By the way, the last time the Stars won the

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Speaker 1: because I was in Boston that week when they did it.

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Speaker 1: But we're talking Cowboys and it's mini camps and it

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Speaker 1: is the first day of the mini camp to Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday,

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Speaker 1: and then it's about us. Well, it's right at a

485
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Speaker 1: six week break before the start of training camp in Oxnard,

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Speaker 1: California on July twenty fifth, which is a Thursday. The

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Speaker 1: Cowboys will be flying out to Oxnard, so it'll be

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Speaker 1: six weeks to the day. Task a real quick question. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'll try and make it quick. If if you knew,

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Speaker 1: this six week period always makes me worried. I appreciate

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Speaker 1: the time that we can go and do things. Hold

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Speaker 1: your breath exactly, if would you as covering this team,

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Speaker 1: would you rather have the vacation time on the front end,

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Speaker 1: for example, like a post draft, and then start the

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Speaker 1: OTAs in mini camps, to where you only have like

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Speaker 1: a two week break or one week break before training

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Speaker 1: camp before we have to go. I wonder if the

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Speaker 1: coaches would like that. Are you asking me from a

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Speaker 1: personal standpoint or if I was a coach, I carry both.

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Speaker 1: If you like carry both, I just as I'm again

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Speaker 1: my experience, I would I would personally rather have the

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Speaker 1: break after the draft. If you told me we could start,

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Speaker 1: I would take the month of May off. There you go.

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Speaker 1: I'm totally on board with that because because the way

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Speaker 1: it's set up now, and it's nice for us to

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Speaker 1: have this time coming up but in May. But as

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Speaker 1: a team, exactly, you're not starting over when you get

508
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Speaker 1: to camp, but you're not grinding like you've been for

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Speaker 1: ten weeks's straight. And then these guys, these guys are

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Speaker 1: technically on vacation obviously gonna train on their own. But

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Speaker 1: are they well, I mean and someone will, Yeah, they will,

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Speaker 1: someone will, but but it's not the same. It's not

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Speaker 1: the same to me. I would I would rather see

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Speaker 1: the players get more of a break. I think. I

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Speaker 1: think if you had them, if you gave them more

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Speaker 1: of a break after the season, an extra month after

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Speaker 1: the season, and then started your workouts and things like that,

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Speaker 1: like Mickey set after mate, they started June first, whatever,

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Speaker 1: and then take all the way of all June and

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Speaker 1: then all of July two weeks before training, Yes, six weeks.

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Speaker 1: Go six weeks of these OTAs or me or working

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Speaker 1: out whatever you want to do. And then when you

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Speaker 1: get okay, we're going to report July twenty fifth, Okay,

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Speaker 1: we'll give them off, you know, break on July sixteenth,

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Speaker 1: and we've got ten days off and then boom, everybody's back.

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Speaker 1: But then you don't lose that everything that you've gained.

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Speaker 1: These guys are a great athlete. It's no question. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you can't be a bad athlete and play in this league.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying that I think you're susceptible to injury.

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Speaker 1: Taking the six weeks off and then showing up for

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Speaker 1: a camp where you go hammer down, you know. And

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Speaker 1: that's where I think that's why they have to take

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Speaker 1: it easy the fact at the beginning of question. Otherwise

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Speaker 1: you could just transition right in, Yeah, you've done all

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Speaker 1: this work to get in shape, and then you say, okay,

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Speaker 1: six weeks weeks. What would you do prior to May? Nothing?

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Speaker 1: What about because basically the way it is right it

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Speaker 1: is right now the organized offseason stuff starts April fifteenth.

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Speaker 1: It goes until basically June fifteenth, so it's a two

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Speaker 1: month period the right. So how about doing the April

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Speaker 1: two weeks whatever it might be, three weeks leading up

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Speaker 1: to the to May first, take May off, then do

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Speaker 1: June you know, to where. But the only problem with

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Speaker 1: that is then you're spending all of June getting guys

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Speaker 1: in shape. Where you did it from the beginning of April, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: all the way through until four start football. But with

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Speaker 1: six weeks off, Now do they come back in perfect show? No,

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Speaker 1: they don't. And that's why I don't think they should

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Speaker 1: have that long of a break. I wonder what the players. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure they love it. I would think the play,

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Speaker 1: I think the players. I think the players if you

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Speaker 1: gave them more time off after the season would probably

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Speaker 1: appreciate it more because what you're doing is if you

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Speaker 1: got him, if you brought him in June and worked

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Speaker 1: them through July, you're getting them in that mindset. Okay,

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Speaker 1: we got to do this every day, every day, every day.

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Speaker 1: But I think if you gave them more time on

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Speaker 1: the front end to recover, I think they would be

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Speaker 1: I think they would be a lot they'd be happier

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Speaker 1: about that. It's kind of like, uh, teachers out there, whatever,

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Speaker 1: you know, you get in you're off in the summertime,

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Speaker 1: and you basically have two months off in the summertime. Well,

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Speaker 1: I'm already hearing teacher friends of mine say they're two

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Speaker 1: weeks into their summer vacation and they're board. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: And for like players, all right, yeah, yeah, I got

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Speaker 1: six weeks day. My wife's not she she needs a

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Speaker 1: break from the fourth she's goods. But for the players,

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Speaker 1: all right, like you say, six weeks is a long time.

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Speaker 1: So it's all that work that they put in for

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Speaker 1: the last two months. I mean, you take some discipline.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to heart too, maintain that and more so

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Speaker 1: smart if they're smart two weeks before they leave for

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Speaker 1: training camp. They're back here working out, doing work lifting,

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Speaker 1: so that when you get the training camp, it's not

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Speaker 1: like you lost everything. I'm just trying to prevent injury. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but I think it also applies to your point, Bill,

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Speaker 1: even more so with the rookies, because they get the

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Speaker 1: rookie camp, they come in for three weeks, four weeks.

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Speaker 1: There's gone here. They keep the rookies here though. You

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Speaker 1: remember that. Yeah, they get like a week. Yeah, yeah

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Speaker 1: they don't yeah, fourth July and the rehab guys getting

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Speaker 1: maybe a week. Yeah yeah, rehab guys, and there's a

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Speaker 1: bunch of them. Sure they're gonna be here, that's true. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm just it's a good thought. I'm just trying to

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Speaker 1: get them. I'm trying to get the perfect camp of

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Speaker 1: my team being in shape and us not missing any

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Speaker 1: practice time so when we get into the season, because

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00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 1: they give them enough breaks during training camp. Have you

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Speaker 1: guys looked at the schedule, that's a day off three No,

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Speaker 1: we're going to the Western Sizzler on July thirty. First,

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Speaker 1: I've already got that day playing on emails. Yes, stay

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Speaker 1: by beating heart, don't, don't, don't, don't exactly starting wide

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Speaker 1: receivers not named Beast. Oh, yeah, that was Thompson and Herns. Yes,

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00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 1: and then there was a third in there that wasn't Beasley.

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Speaker 1: The next week or the next two weeks, did you

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Speaker 1: still get in there, Terrence Williams three, and you asked

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Speaker 1: what went wrong with the committee? Yeah, the top three

598
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Speaker 1: guys at the beginning of the season might not be

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Speaker 1: here to start this year. You know. I applaud them

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Speaker 1: for for realizing that that wasn't going to work. And

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Speaker 1: it took It took a team that was willing to

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Speaker 1: move on from a star player that was going to

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Speaker 1: do it their way, and it took a first round pick,

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Speaker 1: and you had to have a lot of things go

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Speaker 1: that way. But I admire them for not sitting there

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Speaker 1: and saying, no, we can ride this out. We would

607
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Speaker 1: just ride this out, it would get better, because it

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Speaker 1: wasn't didn't and what was wanting to get better. It

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Speaker 1: was really interesting about it, too, make if you break

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Speaker 1: it down even more, and I know we're live on

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Speaker 1: the air, but those those snaps on offense the first

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Speaker 1: few games they were it was a true committee, like

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Speaker 1: they were pretty evenly distributed. It wasn't like it was

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Speaker 1: this hard rotation of three four guys. It wasn't until

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Speaker 1: Austin got hurt Um and really they got Cooper and

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Speaker 1: Terence Williams got hurt. They get Cooper and then they

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Speaker 1: kind of stabilized that group. Gallup starts, he starts playing more,

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Speaker 1: and I think it made dak way more comfortably. I

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Speaker 1: think I think the thing with Williams, I think that

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Speaker 1: the Dui thing was what got him put to pasture.

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Speaker 1: That was off season, right, but then he had Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but but I think it was kind of like he

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Speaker 1: was having some issues and but was he really hurt?

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Speaker 1: It was an r ui. Yeah, writing the influence. I'm

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Speaker 1: just saying that to me that it's just it was.

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Speaker 1: It was very. It was very. It was very. It

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Speaker 1: was a train wreck, it really was. It was a

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Speaker 1: It was just a it was a bad miss evaluation.

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Speaker 1: And I always always tell people though that if you

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Speaker 1: can't evaluate your own team, then you're not ever going

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Speaker 1: to be any good. And I think they evaluated their situation. Now,

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Speaker 1: I think I know they evaluate with their situation. They

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Speaker 1: had to do something so so so then look at

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Speaker 1: about Terence Wam. So that was over a month long period.

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Speaker 1: They they're made own their own decision on Dez. Witton

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Speaker 1: who were your three primary receivers over the last half decade.

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647
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648
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649
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Speaker 1: not the offensive line that we've come to know until

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Speaker 1: probably midseason when they make the coaching change, and then

651
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:14,879
Speaker 1: they got better. So the only thing they had done

652
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653
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Speaker 1: weeks into and Thompson has struggled to and he's been

654
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Speaker 1: hook on with something. I can't remember where he is now,

656
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Speaker 1: but he's someplace. But so didn't work. So just look

657
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:36,440
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658
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Speaker 1: year ago or after the Frederick injury or the Frederick

659
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Speaker 1: gay and bare syndrome going into last year, I mean,

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Speaker 1: how much more confidence should Deck Prescott? Yeah? Or how

661
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Speaker 1: much more? Yeah? Like a whole lot. Yeah, they were

662
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Speaker 1: confidence in him, but how about confidence? Does he have

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Speaker 1: confidence in the offensive coordinator? There's the other thing. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: did I'm not going to get off of that. Sure

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Speaker 1: Cooper showed up, No, no, no question, like nine games

668
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:14,359
Speaker 1: the last eight seventy percent completion percentage of the last

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Speaker 1: eight games, which adds to his confidence level going into

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Speaker 1: this year. Absolutely. So. I don't think there's been this

671
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Speaker 1: dramatic turnaround in his ability to throw the football. I

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Speaker 1: think the dramatic turnaround is who he's throwing the football too.

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00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 1: So far looks accurate. No, yeah, I'm not taking anything

674
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 1: away from the ball. First three years but I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I think he looks he's looks so sharp in these practices. Yeah, no,

676
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Speaker 1: he has no absolutely, but it helps that he he

677
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Speaker 1: knows who he's thrown to. Yeah, him or Kitta, Who's

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Speaker 1: who's made Who's made that? If you talk about if

679
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Speaker 1: you had to say, wow, he looks. We know he

680
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,399
Speaker 1: looks physically different. I could see that you watch him.

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00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 1: He's a good one. Guy looked in the baseball uniform,

682
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,799
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Speaker 1: Dirk celebrity and he's on that point. He's one that

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Speaker 1: I remember training camp last year. He told me that

685
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Speaker 1: he had put on weight at the end of the

686
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: after the previous season. He had gotten up there a

687
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Speaker 1: good way. Sure, yeah, he had gotten back down the

688
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 1: training camp and look like he does right now. I

689
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 1: mean he looked. But I'd love it when I see

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00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott looking like he looks right. He does look fit.

691
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,800
Speaker 1: I mean he does, but his and let's not also

692
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Speaker 1: forget that he's been working with those dudes out in

693
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Speaker 1: is it Arizona, California. The quarterback, Oh, the Tom House

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Speaker 1: Goose guys and stuff like that. Yeah, got that in

695
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 1: month of March. See I'm trying. I'm trying to think

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00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:43,919
Speaker 1: if it's if if Kitna or Dak that we've seen

697
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:48,879
Speaker 1: we've seen improvement, not only physically, but we've seen better accuracy.

698
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 1: When he misses, it's not the sweaty ball that goes

699
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 1: flying and fluttering over people's heads. If he misses, it's

700
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 1: maybe a six inches four inches, that kind of thing.

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00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 1: They've talked a lot of footwork k Has and Dak Garrett,

702
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 1: are you seeing that? You're seeing subtle things. You're seeing

703
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 1: a guy that sits in the pocket and looks like

704
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 1: he's ready to throw, not a guy that you know.

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Speaker 1: And maybe when you get like Mickey's saying, you get

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Speaker 1: Travis Frederick back, you know, you get you know, you

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Speaker 1: get Collins back, you get you know, a year now

708
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:23,280
Speaker 1: of Connor Williams. I mean Connor Williams to me physically

709
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 1: looks good too. So you know, maybe with all that

710
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:31,360
Speaker 1: upfront and maybe his confidence. But I'm wondering this little transformation,

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00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 1: is that the contract is that the pressure is that

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00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 1: the is that the quarterback himself is that John K.

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Speaker 1: Kittna you know, you know he talked last week about

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Speaker 1: Tom tom House. What wasn't Tom House, wasn't something There

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Speaker 1: Maybe it was I think House. And he talked about

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Speaker 1: arm angles. You can't always be sitting in the pocket

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Speaker 1: he goes, And I learned about that and to how

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Speaker 1: what's important too, is what he they teach him. It

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Speaker 1: aligns with Kidnap. It's not like it's something totally vastly

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Speaker 1: a lot of things that he's going through with these quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. You know who he did wonders

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Speaker 1: with his own son. Yeah, I kicking throw it? Did

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Speaker 1: you why? I've seen him throw it? Yeah? When when

739
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,040
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Speaker 1: routes with the wide receivers, He's stepping in there and

741
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 1: throwing it. He never misses him. Nah, he's and I've

742
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 1: seen him out there working with him. I knew it.

743
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Speaker 1: He's a college kid, right, yeah's eligibility is he's still playing?

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00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:38,319
Speaker 1: Where is he that good? I don't know. I'll look

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Speaker 1: it up. I'll look it up. I thought it was

746
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 1: a small school. I thought he was a small school

747
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 1: guy too, like and then he was trying guys only

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Speaker 1: eight thousand people. It's a small school FBS or whatever?

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Speaker 1: What do you call the Division one Double A? Now

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Speaker 1: if DS, that's where kid Is has been. Yeah? Uh

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00:40:56,360 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 1: is it Jordan Kidna Colorado State Poeblo, Colorado Pueblo, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Bilad it is. It's Colorado. Pill is an investigative reporter.

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Speaker 1: That's right. Don't don't sell him. Junior college, Colorado State, Pueblo.

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Speaker 1: That's what it says here, I think, yeah, that's not

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Speaker 1: Colorado State. I didn't say Colorado State State University. He's

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Speaker 1: not the Rams. That's like Texas A and m Kingsville.

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Speaker 1: That's right there. You go Texas which has produced in NFL.

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Speaker 1: How are you doing? What are you doing over there? Cowboys?

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00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 1: But says going to Tennessee or has committed to Tennessee. Okay,

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00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:42,760
Speaker 1: well now you need high school class of twenty twenty.

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00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 1: This Jordan just up the road, which is switched Jalen Kitten. Ja,

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00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 1: it's a different kid. Yeah, there's a couple of kid

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Speaker 1: and I knew Jordan. J Yeah, Jordan. No one of

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Speaker 1: The Minican you see the guy that looks like he's

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00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,879
Speaker 1: That's him, whatever his name is. And to my point

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Speaker 1: be my gift. I hope he's not listening. Good stuff,

843
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 1: good stuff. You can keep the seventy dollars worth of

844
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 1: stuff and just give him the free stuff. And you

845
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:52,240
Speaker 1: know what, it comes in a very pretty black box

846
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 1: with a signature Jack Black on it. All right, very good,

847
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 1: so you don't even have to wrap it. It's such

848
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 1: a pretty black watch. That was that car you behind

849
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:11,280
Speaker 1: this morning? Exactly? I think I was. I was caught

850
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:16,320
Speaker 1: in traffic caused by a mickey collision reading a spot

851
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 1: on the highway. That's a drop from Kent. Let's go,

852
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 1: let's go defense. You want to play some defense now? Yeah,

853
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:28,359
Speaker 1: Brian brought us, brought it up. Where would you like

854
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:31,320
Speaker 1: to go on the Cowboys defense? As we this is

855
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 1: sort of like it's a mini camp, even though mini

856
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 1: camp is just now starting as you are listening to this,

857
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 1: perhaps it is after the mini camp is over, and

858
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 1: it's almost like it's a training camp preview too. So

859
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 1: we're wrapping up the offseason today. Can you name any

860
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 1: of the starters on defense that are actually out there?

861
00:47:52,640 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 1: Two of them? Garrison is on his game, is in

862
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 1: season form, like we've seen with Mallie Collins. By the way,

863
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,760
Speaker 1: the practices that we've got to watch. Maybe it's something

864
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 1: to do with drafting somebody in the second round. Maybe

865
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 1: it's a contracting two good feet. Yeah, let's just get

866
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,479
Speaker 1: through the bags a couple of times before bones start

867
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:21,319
Speaker 1: to break. But you know, I like what I've seen

868
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:23,359
Speaker 1: with Mallie Collins. I love what I've seen with Sean

869
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 1: Lee running around out there. Ye you know, you know

870
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 1: what I think? Does anybody talk to Sean Lee? I

871
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:31,840
Speaker 1: asked this question Mickey did you ask him? You know

872
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:34,319
Speaker 1: what they used to keep Sean Lee and Bubble rap

873
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 1: like Sean Lee and I need to ask him this

874
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 1: and maybe ask him this question. I think Sean Lee

875
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 1: went told him and said, I need to play. Yes,

876
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:44,879
Speaker 1: I just need to play. This is my last year.

877
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 1: I just need to play. But he's on the practice

878
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:52,400
Speaker 1: off practice schedule. But Benny camp. But but he could

879
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 1: be where they practice him one time or no time.

880
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 1: Did he do much in OTA's last year after liked

881
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 1: to camp? Yeah, I seeing him running and he was

882
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 1: rapping camp. I don't think he did uh teamwork? Yeah, yeah,

883
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 1: he's running with the twos. He's out there running with

884
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:12,840
Speaker 1: you know, Kyle Quero and those guys. I think, I

885
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 1: think and I need to ask him this and maybe

886
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:16,919
Speaker 1: one of us will ask of this. But I think

887
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 1: he went and told him. He's like, I need to practice.

888
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:20,919
Speaker 1: I mean, I just need you just need to put

889
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 1: me out there. I don't, I mean, and and so far,

890
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 1: so good for him, and I think that maybe will

891
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:29,280
Speaker 1: be the plan. He'll have an off day. I'm sure

892
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:33,720
Speaker 1: the camp the veterans roll through, the Wittons, the leads,

893
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 1: the offensive lineman, guys, all you know, do what they

894
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 1: have to do. But I think Sean Lee just said, hey,

895
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 1: the hell with it. You know what, I haven't played,

896
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 1: and I haven't played in three years. Basically, I mean,

897
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 1: I need to go, but I just need to go practice.

898
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 1: Even with all it with his injuries, the only time

899
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 1: he had a season ending injury was the ACL which

900
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 1: was in the OTA's in twenty fourteen. Okay, where where

901
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 1: it was an offseason deal where you get hurt, okay,

902
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 1: and he's lost for the year. Okay, um things, and

903
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:09,280
Speaker 1: the other stuff is it's you know, hamstring type stuff.

904
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 1: You know that's There's been other injuries besides that they're

905
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 1: broken bones or whatever. But uh, here lately it's been

906
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 1: more it's kind of like Adrian Beltrey with the Rangers,

907
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 1: where you get up there pushing your mid thirties whatever,

908
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 1: and you know he's he's wound so tight, you know,

909
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 1: and his play and his role is probably going to

910
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:32,799
Speaker 1: be slightly different, right Sam linebacker, He's not probably gonna

911
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 1: be asked to play fifty sixty snaps anymore unless somebody

912
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 1: gets Unless somebody gets hurt, and then he's on the nickel,

913
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:41,319
Speaker 1: which he has been on during OTAs talk now I

914
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:44,240
Speaker 1: do know this. Talking to Rod Marinelli, he's he's excited

915
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 1: about having Shawn Lee on the field, so they need

916
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 1: him on the field. So maybe maybe maybe it won't

917
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 1: be as much. Maybe maybe we talked about maybe because

918
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 1: it was Damien Wilson, and you say, well, we don't

919
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 1: want really want to put Damien Wilson out there. Sean

920
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:01,359
Speaker 1: Lee's a little different animal. Yeah, yeah, Sean Lee. It's like, ah, guy,

921
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 1: go on the field and make plays. You know. Now,

922
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:05,839
Speaker 1: it's thinking, well, maybe we don't have to play as

923
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 1: much of certain things. And you played at three man line.

924
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:12,440
Speaker 1: I've brought it up before. You were not wrong about it.

925
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 1: You can keep three and one extra dB the bride Marinoy.

926
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:19,880
Speaker 1: He confirmed that, right, He confirmed it. You're absolutely right

927
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 1: because he would confirms Wilson a lot to try to blitz,

928
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 1: and I bet Shaun Lee's a little bit better at that.

929
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 1: Sean Lee will be a blitzer. Jalen Smith will be

930
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:36,280
Speaker 1: a blitzer. Position of concern of starters, of starters on defense,

931
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 1: on defense, on defense position, I want I want to

932
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 1: see what happens at right defensive end. If Quinn is

933
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 1: a seventy percent guy on the field, or is he

934
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:54,439
Speaker 1: a rotation guy? And if he's a rotation guy, then

935
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 1: who's the guy at right defensive end? Because we haven't

936
00:51:57,200 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 1: seen Heidner hair of Tyrone Crawford not at all, not

937
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:04,760
Speaker 1: at all. And I think he was in that Wednesday

938
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:07,760
Speaker 1: group that VET guys, you know, and we've been seeing

939
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 1: Wednesday practices in OTAs. But we saw Wednesday last week,

940
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 1: but we see him, didn't see him last week, but

941
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 1: we know what he can do, right, But who's who?

942
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 1: Who's the guy there? Though? Is it Quinn? And is

943
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 1: Quinn the Quinn? Who do you think he is? Do

944
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 1: you think Crawford would start at right defensive end? He

945
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 1: would would? I think that's the game plan. Yeah, But

946
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:35,799
Speaker 1: if you get you get, you get Randy Gregory back.

947
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 1: I'm kicking Crawford back inside. I'd like to see my

948
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 1: starting corners right now, and you're just not gonna see

949
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 1: Byron Bengas, you know that's me Byron Jones point. You know,

950
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 1: I think he said he wants to get back some

951
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 1: time in camp. They're trying to get him to week

952
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:52,839
Speaker 1: one and what Cheeto has a hip deal right now

953
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 1: he's dealing with. So I thought it was a hamstring Uh,

954
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:58,319
Speaker 1: Jones was the hip, right he had hips? Or yeah?

955
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 1: So yeah, Jones is only working on the chords and

956
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 1: stuff though too. That's a good song. And I think

957
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 1: they're I mean, they're hopeful for game one, yeah, but

958
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:10,320
Speaker 1: it's not a sure thing. Who is not the sure thing? Is?

959
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 1: Is Lawrence a sure thing? Left end? I think so

960
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 1: or Jones a sure thing? They're holdback. What we've been

961
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 1: told is they're hopeful on both for week one. Now

962
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 1: is it a guarantee for both? I don't know about that.

963
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 1: I think it's more closer to Lawrence from what I've

964
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 1: been told. Okay, but also don't expect to see him

965
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:34,719
Speaker 1: in any preseason game, right, yeah, right, because just get

966
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 1: him to think about it. So you're not gonna play

967
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 1: the fourth. If you're gonna play, you're probably not the

968
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:44,359
Speaker 1: first because you probably won't be ready. Is he going

969
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:47,279
Speaker 1: to Hawaii? Is he going to Hawaii? I'm sure he

970
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 1: is sitting on the the beach, But doesn't mean he's

971
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:52,319
Speaker 1: gonna play, you know, last year. And here's the other

972
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:54,879
Speaker 1: here's the other point. So if if you did play

973
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 1: him in a preseason game, how many snaps? Ten? Yeah,

974
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 1: ten snaps gonna make the difference between him being ready

975
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 1: for the openers. This is the age old argument with

976
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 1: Emmett Smith and Zeke at the running back position. But

977
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 1: he practices so hard at training camp he does. I mean,

978
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 1: you don't need him to play as hard as he

979
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:16,279
Speaker 1: practices at training camp. That's where. And he's running pretty hard.

980
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 1: Yeah he is, fatter fact, he was out there yesterday running. Yeah.

981
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:23,839
Speaker 1: So I'm with you, Rob, I'm with you on the

982
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 1: corners and Mickey, I you make a great point about

983
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:31,320
Speaker 1: the right end because right now we're seeing Anthony Brown,

984
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis and C. J. Goodwin on the nickel. You

985
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 1: are surely right about that, So you know you're not

986
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 1: we're not seeing the full depth chart. And maybe you

987
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 1: know as we get deeper in here, alumba, alumba, yea,

988
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 1: Jack and so Cheeto's gonna be fine. I'm just saying

989
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 1: I haven't seen the starting group right now. You did

990
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 1: early before he pulled his hamship. I haven't seen Byron

991
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:56,360
Speaker 1: Jones and I him till week one. That was my concern,

992
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:58,759
Speaker 1: was the right corner. That was my That was my

993
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 1: I mean, how it's Byron Jones is tough. I mean

994
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:06,680
Speaker 1: they've been playing Anthony Brown in place of Byron Jones. Yes, yeah, yes,

995
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 1: so I guess the question is, if Byron Jones is

996
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:12,439
Speaker 1: not ready to go Week one, how confident are you

997
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 1: with the replacement Brown or Lewis. What happens is how

998
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 1: confident are you with who goes into the slot, Because

999
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:22,439
Speaker 1: it's gonna be Jordan Lewis. It's gonna Lewis. Yeah. They've

1000
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 1: been moving Goodwin right, Yep. Goodwin's been getting work at

1001
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 1: right corner at Rock, but that was after Cheetah went out. Yeah,

1002
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:33,239
Speaker 1: Goodwin got work. But I like to see more of

1003
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis. But that being said, I want Byron Jones healthy,

1004
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:38,919
Speaker 1: and I mean he was the best corner by far

1005
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:41,359
Speaker 1: on this team last year. So they're trying to get

1006
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 1: this Michael Jackson ready. By the way, yes, said Nicol.

1007
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 1: They're put him at slot, playing him at outside. I

1008
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:50,720
Speaker 1: you know, you know the position. It's not going to change.

1009
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:55,280
Speaker 1: And everybody was up in arms about it. Safety safety, Yeah, yeah,

1010
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:57,839
Speaker 1: and you know what it's that's what's gonna be. I think,

1011
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 1: and and and if and if the if the if

1012
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 1: Mickey's friend Wilson makes his Donovan Wilson makes his team.

1013
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:07,360
Speaker 1: It's because he put Cavon Fraser on the street. I

1014
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:12,279
Speaker 1: don't see them carrying five safeties. I really don't. That's

1015
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:14,239
Speaker 1: just me. I I don't know how they do that.

1016
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:17,760
Speaker 1: But if I but that's the position to me that

1017
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:20,520
Speaker 1: it's not going to change. Michael Jackson's got some safety

1018
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 1: size about it. First time I saw him on fell

1019
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:27,319
Speaker 1: Play street, safety looked like a safety to meet too.

1020
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 1: It was that's a long safety the defense. But I

1021
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 1: think I brought it up last week, and I can't

1022
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:36,719
Speaker 1: remember if I did it after we finished, Well, what

1023
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:44,280
Speaker 1: was that trail away? You just did? You? You? Y'all? Okay?

1024
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 1: With the kicker? I knew. I think he did break

1025
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:48,960
Speaker 1: it up last week. He did bring it up last week.

1026
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:51,399
Speaker 1: That's the one thing. Are you? You want to see

1027
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 1: more Casey Redfern. I don't know if it's what's that

1028
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:58,319
Speaker 1: headlining in the red Fern? I don't know one of

1029
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:01,840
Speaker 1: my favorite childhood books. What thing I know? When practice starts,

1030
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:03,799
Speaker 1: I am going to pay attention. I'm sorry, folks, if

1031
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 1: you're there, an Oxnard, I'm not going to shake your hand.

1032
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 1: I've got to go watch kickers work out now. The

1033
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:13,319
Speaker 1: only I mean just you know the kid faded a

1034
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:15,480
Speaker 1: little at the end. He's not a kid. He was

1035
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 1: twenty seven years old, Nicky, just throwing that dirt you're

1036
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 1: talking about, ma Her. Yes, he's going to turn thirty

1037
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 1: November twenty first, thirty, as Adam en Atterry just keeps

1038
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 1: It's not like it's not like he's at the end

1039
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 1: of his prime. Here, here's another thing to consider this

1040
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 1: is this is George Bland. No, I didn't mean thirty

1041
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 1: as old. What did you mean? Then? I just meant

1042
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:49,360
Speaker 1: I didn't think he was dirty? What was that reaction?

1043
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 1: What I do? This is the first time in his

1044
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:56,920
Speaker 1: career he's been in the same place two years in

1045
00:57:56,920 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 1: a row. Yeah, he's always hop scotch trying to find

1046
00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 1: it job. Sure, so now how much does that help

1047
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 1: him that he gets a full offseason conditioning um pressure

1048
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Speaker 1: of having to make kicks, because obviously they'll get rid

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Speaker 1: of you if you don't make kicks. To have a

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Speaker 1: backup plane, and I'm not sure what the backup plan

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Speaker 1: would be because this I think they consider Redfern he's

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Speaker 1: as more of a punter than he is a place kicker. Yep.

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Speaker 1: Kind of the same thing we had the same to

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Speaker 1: talk about this guy last year. So if they're that concerned, No,

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Speaker 1: I didn't say they were, But if they were, don't

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Speaker 1: you think they would have a kicker in here? I

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Speaker 1: think they they should at least think about who they

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Speaker 1: would turn to. Well, you know, there's six weeks between

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Speaker 1: now and the start of training camp, and maybe there's

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Speaker 1: a kicker out there. I'll tell you one thing. Maybe

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Speaker 1: that's if Steve Hoffman was here, he'd go down to

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Speaker 1: the home depot and he'd have a workout at the

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Speaker 1: stadium and you'd have an all pro kicker the next day.

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Speaker 1: That was in which Lightbulbs debut. Yeah, hey, listen, I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at paynt and have you ever made a

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Speaker 1: field gold in the NFL? We got like a minute left,

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Speaker 1: Jason Barrett's coming up at ten thirty five. No difference

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Speaker 1: between the kicker and the backup quarterback. That's because they're

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Speaker 1: just not out there all over that. That's true. I

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Speaker 1: can't go down to Texico and get one. Make you

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Speaker 1: we gotta leave. You can keep talking if you'd like

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Speaker 1: see an OX star. Guys. The case has been about

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