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Speaker 1: by wing Stuff where Flavor gets its wings. Now your hosts,
Speaker 1: Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross. You
Speaker 1: know that, my boy? What a difference, Zick twelve hours mate,
Speaker 1: Holy cow, We got a special guest to my right
Speaker 1: on the show today. Let me let me there we
Speaker 1: what's up fields? About six o'clock this morning, my phone
Speaker 1: just started. I was like, man, I was trying to
Speaker 1: sleep till about seven. I had to get out of
Speaker 1: bed and get in the shower. We get to the facility,
Speaker 1: the deal is supposedly done. We're having our team meeting
Speaker 1: in the our programming team meeting here in the training table,
Speaker 1: and here comes Zeke walking through the training table with
Speaker 1: with Todd Williams heading upstairs to side, and you were tid,
Speaker 1: it's money, it's money, you know, it's time and money.
Speaker 1: Baby went upstairs. He was gone about probably less than
Speaker 1: ten minutes, and he comes running through the training table
Speaker 1: back over to Ford Center where they get dressed and
Speaker 1: the deal is done? Ball baby, what do you guys think?
Speaker 1: A lot of money? You know what, it could have
Speaker 1: been a lot more. Sorry, Kurt, he's here for a
Speaker 1: long time. What's up? What's up? Zeke Kno, I'm loving you, baby,
Speaker 1: I'm full. I'm full. Yes, So you'll wait to the bank,
Speaker 1: I said, I want to what bank of Who was
Speaker 1: the bank of a the Cowboys? Bank of America, Bank
Speaker 1: of America. Let me let me actually this quick question though, right,
Speaker 1: we were talking about that kind of money. Fifty million guaranteed?
Speaker 1: Is that true? That's what they're saying. Okay, what's the report?
Speaker 1: Six year extension to the two years that he still
Speaker 1: has left. Yeah, ninety millions the extension, right, that's a report, correct. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Now it's not fifty million, from my understand it. It's
Speaker 1: not fifty million new money. You still gotta take the
Speaker 1: twelve point nine of the old deal add that to
Speaker 1: whatever they're gonna put in this new deal. That makes
Speaker 1: it fifty I don't know how many he's getting, how
Speaker 1: much he's getting up front, But do you direct deposit
Speaker 1: that or do you walk that check to the teller? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a great question. Did they just show up in
Speaker 1: your account because I remember my first couple active checks.
Speaker 1: I was like, you want the check? I want the check.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm walking this to the teller. I want
Speaker 1: them to see me when I come in there and
Speaker 1: they see this check and they gotta call somebody from
Speaker 1: the back, says Dallas Cowboys, look at me. I want
Speaker 1: somebody to come from the back. When they gonna be like, oh,
Speaker 1: manage your assistant, Yes, from my check. Then this check
Speaker 1: ain't gonna bounce. I know this check good. So when
Speaker 1: when they when they give you that kind of money, Nate, right,
Speaker 1: do you want do you want to direct deposit that?
Speaker 1: Or do you want to walk that check to the teller?
Speaker 1: You know what, man, what I want to do is
Speaker 1: make sure I'm secure because I'm riding around for a
Speaker 1: couple of days. Ever seen this before? Tweeting to my
Speaker 1: bros back in the cred you ever seen it before?
Speaker 1: I'm with you, man, I'm walking now. I'm like, can
Speaker 1: I see you? You know when you're not to say
Speaker 1: sign in? Why should I sign in? Right? Right? Y'all?
Speaker 1: Ever seen this? This is twenty million? Now, that's say y'all.
Speaker 1: Ever seen this? Yeah? This twenty million. Now see all them.
Speaker 1: Roll the check gonna be this long. Do the check
Speaker 1: in if you get it direct deposited. It's like that
Speaker 1: first time you ever get a bonus check. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: like you know, it goes to it midnight. You just
Speaker 1: want to see it in check. Got an extra on
Speaker 1: your account for the first time, and you just keep refresh, refresh.
Speaker 1: I remember the first time I got some like some
Speaker 1: real money money. Yeah, Like I took out a substantial amount,
Speaker 1: Like I went up theren like, hey, I'm gonna I'm
Speaker 1: gonna take out like this is fifty thou right. I
Speaker 1: just want to take it home and see what it like.
Speaker 1: I'll put it back in the morrow. I'm gonna put
Speaker 1: it back in the morrow. But I donna see on
Speaker 1: TV when you lay on the bed. I did that.
Speaker 1: I was like, I just want to see how this feels.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but I want to be able to go
Speaker 1: home and be like work, Yeah, fifty the bed. What
Speaker 1: do you do when you got your first check, your
Speaker 1: first big one, like most brothers do, go about me
Speaker 1: a car. Why do we folks, why do we do that?
Speaker 1: We go straight to the car. I want that one. No, Miles, no, no, miles.
Speaker 1: Nobody that will drive. Tell that dude, who gonna get it?
Speaker 1: I gotta give me the keys where I can drive it. Right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: what do y'all think? Good? Glad it's over. I'm smart.
Speaker 1: I'm glad. Everybody won. Yeah, everybody one. When you look
Speaker 1: at the numbers, right, Zeke got his extension. He's basically
Speaker 1: here for the better part of his prime. Right, he's
Speaker 1: here for that haul. The Cowboys got a deal. That
Speaker 1: is when you when you look at it, if you
Speaker 1: can look at it two ways, the Cowboys got a
Speaker 1: deal in which if it's sixty, if it's six years
Speaker 1: for the ninety, right, and that's when you when you
Speaker 1: add it all together, you can say, oh, six in
Speaker 1: the nineties fifteen. If you do eight and the one
Speaker 1: oh three, it comes out to me about twelve. So
Speaker 1: depending on how you want to count this thing up,
Speaker 1: you can say, oh, he's the highest paid back because
Speaker 1: we're talking about six for ninety. Then that puts him
Speaker 1: up in the upper echel line, and the guarantees him
Speaker 1: more than what Todd Gurley got. The agency, Rocky Arsenal
Speaker 1: and his agent get to say we have the highest
Speaker 1: payer running back in NFL history. So Zeke got his money.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys got to do locked up the best running
Speaker 1: back areably the best running back in the league, locked
Speaker 1: up for eight years. Rocky Arsenal got his headlines, the
Speaker 1: boys up front and the Russia. His teammates got the
Speaker 1: best player on their team back every like this is
Speaker 1: a situation. Jerry's ringing the bell and the stock exchange
Speaker 1: in New York. Everybody won. Yeah, the fans were good. Media,
Speaker 1: We're good. You didn't reset the running back market by overpaying,
Speaker 1: like he's right there where he needs to be a
Speaker 1: body one. Yeah, and a crazy part about it. There
Speaker 1: was at one point in time we worried, right, there
Speaker 1: was a point how were like, Man, he might missed
Speaker 1: the first three games. Yeah, But then I kept telling
Speaker 1: people Jerry said this, and I believe this. Trust He said,
Speaker 1: deadlines make deals. Yeah, and he when has he not
Speaker 1: gonna deal? When? When did Zeke need to be in
Speaker 1: the building and at practice? You said it yesterday? He
Speaker 1: needs to be a practice on Wednesday to be ready
Speaker 1: for the game. What's today? Ding ding ding ding ding
Speaker 1: ding ding. He was in the building, like you said,
Speaker 1: he said, Man, I tell you what I'm here doing.
Speaker 1: What I gotta do with Zeke's pockets are full up.
Speaker 1: And you know what, everybody that was pissed off at
Speaker 1: Zeke as soon as he made is he gonna get
Speaker 1: booed at home or they gonna go nuts. They're even
Speaker 1: if he gets booed as soon as he scores a touchdown.
Speaker 1: Guests about me, say, some man I called a dude.
Speaker 1: I tweeted a dude this morning because he asked the question, like, man,
Speaker 1: Zeke Dick need to just come on and be a
Speaker 1: team player so my kid can beat something, so he
Speaker 1: can show my kid, you know, team first. I tweeted
Speaker 1: hibout what you do? I said when he signed, Bro,
Speaker 1: I'm tweeting you so so we can have this team first.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you something, man, and this is how
Speaker 1: I see it. And you tell me if you think different, Jesse.
Speaker 1: There's those of us, and I was one of those
Speaker 1: us that when they came to me with a team
Speaker 1: friendly deal, that's who I was, mister team friendly, because
Speaker 1: that you know, I knew I wanted to be a cowboy.
Speaker 1: They knew I wanted to be a cowboy. It didn't
Speaker 1: hurt nothing, you know, but this elite players that deserve
Speaker 1: a little bit more than team friendly. They got what
Speaker 1: they wanted. Zeke got what he wanted. Everybody's riding high.
Speaker 1: Let's see how the rust of these guys do it.
Speaker 1: But it's gonna be some more team friendly deals. So
Speaker 1: I'm asking the fans know who you who know your personnel?
Speaker 1: Zeke is on a different level. I heard Stephen say
Speaker 1: this at the at the luncheon. You know, here's a
Speaker 1: guy hard knows negotiating missus Stephen Jones. A guy asked him, say,
Speaker 1: what if another guy tried to do with Zeke? Dude?
Speaker 1: He said, hit, there'll be sitting home. He's also, what
Speaker 1: are you saying? Zeke is a special player. Yes, he's
Speaker 1: very special and especial to this team. And this is
Speaker 1: a guy in the middle of a negotiation, keeping it real,
Speaker 1: bro Zeke is special. Dak is special. Now I don't
Speaker 1: know how special is to jested, but he's special to
Speaker 1: me because he don't let me know him in a minute,
Speaker 1: like wherever you want to put Dak in the in
Speaker 1: the in the in the in the echelon of quarterbacks
Speaker 1: from the league, somewhere between ten and fifteen. He's number
Speaker 1: one of dallars. So you can you can put him
Speaker 1: whatever you want to put him at. He's number one
Speaker 1: of Dallars. He's Dallas's franchise quarterback. But your coach said
Speaker 1: it best. Your coach said it best. Jimmy Johnson said
Speaker 1: it best. He said everyone gets treated fairly, not everyone
Speaker 1: gets treated the same. That's right. I got something to say,
Speaker 1: say something, say something, Nate. One thing? What is this
Speaker 1: over here? This is new some new hardware you got? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: this uh NFL pass. I'm watching the first half of
Speaker 1: the Giants and uh because I'm waiting on my man
Speaker 1: to bring bread with us on the offense. You studying
Speaker 1: on the job? Yeah, yeah, what I'm looking at. What
Speaker 1: I'm looking at is and I notice ain't number preseason.
Speaker 1: But I'm scared of the Giants. I'm scared to stop
Speaker 1: stop that, Stop that right. Let me finish what I
Speaker 1: was gonna say, and then we'll jump into the jet
Speaker 1: and we'll know why I'm scared. O. Here's here's what
Speaker 1: I have the question about. You used to come in
Speaker 1: here with a box of cookies, just eating cookies on
Speaker 1: the air with your hands and touching this table, touching
Speaker 1: this mic. And now Jesse's been on the show three
Speaker 1: times and you barn his handy wipes and wiping the
Speaker 1: microphone off, and now he made you a germaphold yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: because me and Douglas watched him for like twenty minutes
Speaker 1: coming here, wiping the side of the table where he
Speaker 1: got my side with over on your side, man, and
Speaker 1: he told us that I ain't a German pol but
Speaker 1: did he these of like, wow, I better get it
Speaker 1: and get on this. So he turned you already three yeah,
Speaker 1: turned out for the better about him as large you
Speaker 1: improving but here, but see this thing is and I
Speaker 1: ain't a German phold because I used his rank he
Speaker 1: already to use. So you're not quite yet, you just
Speaker 1: a little some of the Germans. Yeah, all right, let's
Speaker 1: take a quick break. We might have a short show
Speaker 1: today because I gotta get to the locker room. We'll see.
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Speaker 1: and our little buddy zeke me and we'll be here
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Speaker 1: why are you scared of the Giants? Because last year
Speaker 1: I think Tampa Bay shot the Saints. In the year
Speaker 1: before that, somebody shot the New England Patriots, and in
Speaker 1: the first few weeks Tampa put up forty plus against
Speaker 1: the New Orleans Sames. Yeah, and I just don't want
Speaker 1: to be shocked. You know, I know we're better than them.
Speaker 1: We our offensive line is better than their defensive line.
Speaker 1: And that's where we're going today. You know, I know
Speaker 1: our quarterback Collins. They lost Collins, they lost Snacks, They
Speaker 1: lost Olivier Vernon a years two ago, they lost Jason
Speaker 1: Pierre Paul. They have been losing players for the last
Speaker 1: two years, the players that they feel that was not
Speaker 1: good for their locker room and wasn't good for their
Speaker 1: Sarah cap. They have let them go for a little
Speaker 1: of nothing. But those players left left some good some
Speaker 1: I think, some decent guys behind, some decent athletes. They're
Speaker 1: not like Delvin Thomas is not bigger than snacks, you know, heavy,
Speaker 1: you know, but they do have Alex Overcatry at the
Speaker 1: inside linebacker. They still have him, and he can run.
Speaker 1: He can run. I just don't want them to sneak
Speaker 1: up on us, you know, and out hustle us. You know,
Speaker 1: we have the better talent, I think, but I don't
Speaker 1: want them to out hustle us. Jesse, No, you I mean.
Speaker 1: And that's the thing. Earlier in the year. If there's
Speaker 1: one thing that I'm fearful of, um, is that beginning
Speaker 1: of the year, everyone's a little bit sloppy. No one
Speaker 1: has found their groove yet, no one has truly found
Speaker 1: their identity. That you're still working out the kinks. So
Speaker 1: the giants are gonna come in and they're looking around.
Speaker 1: They're saying, man, we got to just go balls to
Speaker 1: the wall and see what happens. There's no pressure on us.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys are the one with the all the one
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty five million dollars talent guaranteed money. They
Speaker 1: got all the talent, they got all the headlines. We
Speaker 1: didn't lost Odell. We didn't. You know, we don't know
Speaker 1: if Daniel Jones is the next Paint Manning, if Eli Manning.
Speaker 1: We don't know. They don't There's so many, so much
Speaker 1: uncertainty going on with the Giants. It's it's that it's
Speaker 1: that wounded animal, right, it's that wounded animal. When you
Speaker 1: back that animal into a corner, they could sometimes hurt you.
Speaker 1: They can come out striking. It's crazy and it can
Speaker 1: hurt you. The Cowboys have to come out in this
Speaker 1: game and assert their dominance right now. If you give
Speaker 1: a team like this hope, then the ball starts bouncing
Speaker 1: their way. And that's the thing about football. When people
Speaker 1: always people try to say, like, oh, that game was
Speaker 1: uh they they they they uh it was it was.
Speaker 1: It was fixed, ye can't you. It's so hard to
Speaker 1: fix football like this. You can take the one thing
Speaker 1: for sure, Oh, if I throw the ball to him
Speaker 1: right now, he'll catch it. He's been a Pro Bowl guy.
Speaker 1: He'll catch it and then that one time he'll go
Speaker 1: and drop it, or a dB could be had the
Speaker 1: I mean had the interception dead the rights and drop it,
Speaker 1: or quarterback and have a receiver wide open overthrown. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's so many factors in that. You can't throw a
Speaker 1: game in the National Football League, you know, but I
Speaker 1: mean you can do it. We see the ones get
Speaker 1: screwed with a call. But as far as the end
Speaker 1: play stuff, that's the biggest thing. That that that I'm
Speaker 1: fearful off. But you can look at the names. I
Speaker 1: don't recognize half the names on their roster. There's nothing
Speaker 1: that they can do with us, your brill. Peppers came
Speaker 1: out of Michigan, supposed to been a study. They traded him.
Speaker 1: I think he was in on the trade for the
Speaker 1: wide receiver. Is he Will he find himself here with
Speaker 1: the with the Giant Sea questions like that. You know,
Speaker 1: it's two or three teams in this league just their
Speaker 1: names make others other guys salivate. Is Pepper's gonna be
Speaker 1: one of them? Got to Cowboys? Oh oh yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna crank it up. Will he have a career day?
Speaker 1: It worries me because it's so early this season. You
Speaker 1: don't know. People are looking for the identists. They want
Speaker 1: to get off on the right foot. And as he said,
Speaker 1: you get a team that you y'all say this off air.
Speaker 1: Everybody's even, everybody's even a thirty two teams have the
Speaker 1: same amount of hope going into Thursday night. So can
Speaker 1: they make a play early that distracts us? You're like, Okay,
Speaker 1: we'll come back. See because that that stattitude I don't
Speaker 1: want us have. I don't want to have that sense
Speaker 1: of entitlement. We have a powerful offense which has not
Speaker 1: played together, not one day in camp. All the eleven
Speaker 1: has not since the first day account we had out
Speaker 1: of loving guys together with our new offensive coordinator putting
Speaker 1: these things, we haven't had it. That's why this week
Speaker 1: is so important. This week Wednesday, Thursday, Friday and walk
Speaker 1: through on Saturday is so important because I'm taking guys
Speaker 1: who have not played together all season. We still don't
Speaker 1: know what Kelly Moore is. That's right, Like we literally
Speaker 1: have no clue. There is no film. Yeah, there's no references,
Speaker 1: there's nothing. We are all going to this game like this.
Speaker 1: I sure hope this works because we don't know that.
Speaker 1: We just we don't know. And that's if you if
Speaker 1: we had to say, hey, let's play this game, we
Speaker 1: went Cowboys kill him, not even close. Taking money to
Speaker 1: the bookie. We're doing paper for paper, taking money to
Speaker 1: the bookie. Put the house on it. Roster Wise, they
Speaker 1: can't touch us. But then it always comes back to
Speaker 1: that point again, right, the meshing, the jelling, the play calling,
Speaker 1: the rhythm of it, all that stuff comes into play.
Speaker 1: Do I think the Cowboys will win this game? Yes?
Speaker 1: I don't. I never ever ever assume a Division game
Speaker 1: is going to be easy, because they never are. No,
Speaker 1: as someone who has watched it, and as someone who
Speaker 1: has played in them Giants, Eagles, Redskins, you're going to
Speaker 1: get their very best. And the teams know each other
Speaker 1: so well because they play them twice a year. The
Speaker 1: players know each other, the coaches know how the other
Speaker 1: teams coach systems and everything. Yeah, but the one gifting
Speaker 1: curse is that no one knows coming more systems, So
Speaker 1: you really can't game ployor game playing for you can say, well,
Speaker 1: we're gonna there's the same offense, same Jason Garrett offense,
Speaker 1: but we don't know how it's going to be called.
Speaker 1: But in the same respect, on the other side, these
Speaker 1: guys don't know how it's gonna be called either. On
Speaker 1: the offense. How long? How long is that? That is?
Speaker 1: What is that? Four games? Four to six games before
Speaker 1: there's enough film on him. Eight I'm gonna give him
Speaker 1: six to eight and then they're gonna start building a
Speaker 1: nice little book on him. I'm gonna give them six
Speaker 1: unless he unless he kind of does like McVeigh. McVeigh
Speaker 1: gonna have and all good offensive mind of coach is
Speaker 1: gonna have four or five plays, or they setting up
Speaker 1: like they ain't seen this. I'm gonna play this off
Speaker 1: of this, I'm gonna play this off the I'm gonna
Speaker 1: run this rundom and I'm gonna play you know how
Speaker 1: they set it up and all of a sudden that
Speaker 1: one play boom, Oh man, I ain't know they had that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because he's been setting it up the whole game, and
Speaker 1: these coach have that in his back pocket that he's
Speaker 1: been working on, you know, whether it's up here in
Speaker 1: his mind or whether he's gonna ran and in practice
Speaker 1: this will work, you know, and at the right time
Speaker 1: talking about Kelly Moore in the offense. Y'all take turns.
Speaker 1: Whoever wants to go first. What's one area that you
Speaker 1: feel really good about and one area that you're kind
Speaker 1: of like on the Cowboys offense that you're not so
Speaker 1: sure about? Go ahead, go ahead, I see. Yeah, Jesse's
Speaker 1: pointing at our co host over here that hasn't said
Speaker 1: one word today. Okay, So is that is that a good? Bad?
Speaker 1: When you pointed that that's good? Okay? He erasist mistakes.
Speaker 1: He's he's an eracer. We're talking about. Zeke's an eracer.
Speaker 1: He's a racer and he's a balancer. And what I
Speaker 1: mean by that you're gonna have to play your bass
Speaker 1: fronts because of him. You can't get fancy and exotic
Speaker 1: because of him. He balances up. It's first and ten.
Speaker 1: You see the eighth man in the box. It's second
Speaker 1: and five. He's somewhere near the box because he's scared.
Speaker 1: He balances up. He makes it where Dak can read
Speaker 1: a little bit easier. Then do you agree that a power?
Speaker 1: Do you agree that Dak and Zeke as a power?
Speaker 1: You look at I look at Zeke as a best
Speaker 1: player on the team, But do you look at uh
Speaker 1: uh dad as as as a pawer with it per
Speaker 1: with him? No? Is he an individual? An individual? Okay?
Speaker 1: He is Like you know, Zeke stands alone, right, I
Speaker 1: think you more so put Amori and Daka together, right, right,
Speaker 1: but Zeke stands alone because of this is the kind
Speaker 1: of guy. You can give him the ball and he
Speaker 1: can take nothing and turn it into something. Right. And
Speaker 1: so what that now does is you talk about the
Speaker 1: eighth guy coming in the box, right when my eighth
Speaker 1: guys in the box. Now what happens is I'm able
Speaker 1: as a quarterback, Dak Prescott. I can read things more simpler, right,
Speaker 1: and now if I do a little motion, Oh, now
Speaker 1: I know it's man to man. Oh now I know
Speaker 1: it's zone. And that allows me and my number one
Speaker 1: receiver to be on one accord or me in my
Speaker 1: number two to be on another accord. But it all
Speaker 1: stems from twenty one being the belle kind of things
Speaker 1: is that when you when you don't have him, then
Speaker 1: people drop back and say, okay, four, now you beat us.
Speaker 1: Now you beat us, because more worried about him on
Speaker 1: the screen can go to the house. On thirty seven,
Speaker 1: thirty eight going to the house, thirty one, thirty two
Speaker 1: going to the house. You know, he is a game
Speaker 1: breaker and a game wrecker. Yeah, and he can do
Speaker 1: it from anywhere on the football field. I think he
Speaker 1: involved last year seventy seven catches being a receiver. But
Speaker 1: you give him the ball anywhere in the field and
Speaker 1: he has the ability to go to the house. Not
Speaker 1: every player in the league, you can say, can do
Speaker 1: that any any anything on the Cowboys offense that concerns you,
Speaker 1: any areas of concern. I just want to know for
Speaker 1: two people that concerns me. I feel good mentally about Frederick.
Speaker 1: I feel good that he knows the game mentally, but
Speaker 1: I don't know it's enduring shit. And I want to
Speaker 1: see if Connor Williams, Yeah, he gonna hold up through
Speaker 1: a whole game. Yeah. I mean I understand he may
Speaker 1: get bull rushed one or two times, but that thing
Speaker 1: ain't got to be bad before he got injured. And
Speaker 1: we've heard, we've heard in the all season how strong
Speaker 1: some of the guys have talked about, how much he's
Speaker 1: worked out, how much you know, muscle he's put on. It.
Speaker 1: Will be interested to see got a dance endurance. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think the one concern for me offensively is is
Speaker 1: Dad going to take the next step Like he's been
Speaker 1: on this plane, like he came in white hot and
Speaker 1: he didn't kind of, he's just been he's just been
Speaker 1: the same, Right, he hadn't raised his game and he
Speaker 1: hadn't dropped off. It's been the same. But that is
Speaker 1: not going to be enough. Twenty three touchdowns that ain't enough, yards,
Speaker 1: that ain't enough. That's not going to cut it in
Speaker 1: this league. Nineteen points a game, twenty three points a game,
Speaker 1: take a half of the year, that's not going to
Speaker 1: be enough. So with the addition of John Kittner, who's
Speaker 1: my like. John kitten is like my brother. Like I
Speaker 1: talked to him almost every day way before he even
Speaker 1: became and I told him, I go, I'm in the
Speaker 1: media now, bro. If that don't come out and be
Speaker 1: ready to go, I'm gonna kill you. I'm gonna talk
Speaker 1: bad about you know because everybody like they did the
Speaker 1: same thing with Kelly Moore. He's a quarterback coach. There's
Speaker 1: no way he can. DA's not getting better because this guy.
Speaker 1: That's another funny thing is they killed Kelly Moore as
Speaker 1: a quarterback coach now everybody's fired up. Now everybody's praising
Speaker 1: by the office. According to wait a second, which one
Speaker 1: is it is if he can't get a quarterback coach
Speaker 1: and now he's gonna be anyway, that's another, that's a
Speaker 1: whole another episode. But for me, it's Dak. Can he
Speaker 1: take the next step to be in that conversation with
Speaker 1: those that we talk about saying, who the Matt Ryan's
Speaker 1: you know the arms, uh the He's never gonna be
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. He's never gonna be Tom brad But Kenny
Speaker 1: get in that in that second tier of quarterbacks. Russell
Speaker 1: Wilson's your Matt Ryan's your golfs, your winches, those type
Speaker 1: of quarterbacks who are going to can put a game
Speaker 1: on their shoulders and go win it through the air.
Speaker 1: If you look at some of Dak's stats, and I
Speaker 1: don't know the exact stats, but I've looked at some
Speaker 1: of them over the last you know, the off season,
Speaker 1: his first few years, he's right there with where Tom
Speaker 1: Brady was. It's just this was the year that Brady
Speaker 1: took that next set. That is my thing. Is he
Speaker 1: going to continue to ascend it and take off or
Speaker 1: are we gonna stay on the same plane because eventually
Speaker 1: that that becomes this. You got to make a decision
Speaker 1: when you or you become a backup. Yeah, you become delfer,
Speaker 1: you become one of those guys. And listen, back les
Speaker 1: make a lot of money. League, league needs them, League
Speaker 1: needs them. But if you're gonna be this franchise you
Speaker 1: just paid to them and with the coats. If you're
Speaker 1: gonna be a franchise guy, Jimmy Garrappo was a backup
Speaker 1: at one point in time, right, But if you're gonna
Speaker 1: be a franchise guy, now's the time when your game
Speaker 1: needs to take the next level. Where's where they can't say, oh,
Speaker 1: we're gonna let four beat us. Like you wouldn't dare
Speaker 1: say that about Aaron Rodgers, right, You wouldn't dare say
Speaker 1: that about Tom Brady. You wouldn't dare say that about
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers and Drew Brees and at Homes. You wouldn't.
Speaker 1: You would say no, somebody else, get the ball out
Speaker 1: of their hands right now. But Doc, they'll go stop
Speaker 1: zeke double Amari, go ahead, four. Let's see what got
Speaker 1: going through number thirteen. Let's see around the cab gonna
Speaker 1: do Yeah, Well, I'll tell you what they've done by
Speaker 1: by what they did with this guy this morning. They
Speaker 1: have taken all the excuses for basically anyone on this team,
Speaker 1: on the field, coaching staff, management. No, this is the
Speaker 1: year like, okay, you got you got all the toys.
Speaker 1: We went and got all the toys. Now what are
Speaker 1: we gonna do with it? Because if you don't do
Speaker 1: it this year, I mean, can you do it? How
Speaker 1: far the way this thing constructed? See, I'm not buying
Speaker 1: super bowls. Super Bowl is something you have to earn.
Speaker 1: You have to earn that. You have to take that.
Speaker 1: The super Bowl, I think you got to take you know,
Speaker 1: like I think the Rams had a good chance. But
Speaker 1: last year New England they took that game. They took it,
Speaker 1: Yes and so and when we played, we took them.
Speaker 1: They want to know, we had to go get them
Speaker 1: things right and the NFC Championship game. Is that enough? Yes?
Speaker 1: For this year? Right? For this year? Yes? Because you're progressive,
Speaker 1: I think so. Du I think that. Yeah, it's a
Speaker 1: nut you're saying for Jason, Yeah, because that's the only
Speaker 1: thing everybody else is signed. Well, if you go, if
Speaker 1: you get there, you're you're still progressively getting better. You're
Speaker 1: one step closer. Now. How big is the window is
Speaker 1: the question after that? I just you know, what, what
Speaker 1: do you think? Is it enough? I think it's enough
Speaker 1: to to for him to be back for a two
Speaker 1: or three year deal. I think like this year, it's
Speaker 1: it's literally NFC championship or a bus or yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe blowing this whole thing up on the On the
Speaker 1: whole coaching side, who knows, well, you got your next
Speaker 1: head coach already on staff. I think I know who
Speaker 1: should say you said it, not meet coach Dougs at it,
Speaker 1: coach not keep his my guy, keep those Quinns my due.
Speaker 1: I like Keith though Quinn well, he ain't ready for
Speaker 1: the head coaching duties. Hey, and and Dak's defense, you
Speaker 1: talked about how he needs to take the next step
Speaker 1: when you look at the two biggest wins or the
Speaker 1: two biggest games he's been in his rookie year versus
Speaker 1: the Packers and Aaron Rodgers came back and won that game.
Speaker 1: But before Aaron Rodgers won that game, Dak scored the
Speaker 1: two point conversion with his legs last year when they
Speaker 1: beat the Seahawks and the playoffs Dak had a crucial
Speaker 1: like third and fifteen that he picked out his legs.
Speaker 1: Is that the intangible that's gonna keep him in? I mean,
Speaker 1: he's risk averse as far as he throws low interceptions.
Speaker 1: He doesn't have, you know, stratosphere like passing stats. But
Speaker 1: if he keeps his interceptions low and he keeps the
Speaker 1: running part of his game without getting injured, is that
Speaker 1: all he needs as long as you've got the talent
Speaker 1: around him. No, you got correct moving wrong, Jesse, you
Speaker 1: gotta throw it, you gotta you gotta start pressing it. Deef,
Speaker 1: you gotta throw that thing long. Sometimes I believe that
Speaker 1: man in this league, even Tom Brady with dink and dunk,
Speaker 1: you with two or three times a quarter, even the
Speaker 1: chest that keeps everything spread out, that thinks everything clear.
Speaker 1: Your running game helps you. But that passing, that deep
Speaker 1: passing games. But of me, you connect and if you
Speaker 1: notice team like the Patriots, they always have a guy,
Speaker 1: always have a guy. Sometimes it's Randy Moss. Yeah, sometime
Speaker 1: it's a guy like Brandon Cooks. Sometimes the guy that
Speaker 1: you don't even know, but you know in the back
Speaker 1: of your mind he run a four three and they'll
Speaker 1: put him in the game sometimes and all he'll do
Speaker 1: is yeah, shoo, yeah, and just listen. I just want them.
Speaker 1: I want you to back in your mind to know
Speaker 1: the minute you think I'm not going to throw it,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I got a guy, I
Speaker 1: got a guy, so and so you'll have the Patriots
Speaker 1: will have a guy who may have twenty catches on
Speaker 1: the entire year, and all of them will be this,
Speaker 1: and they'll just keep pressing you with that all game low.
Speaker 1: So that safety or those safeties before they think they're
Speaker 1: gonna jump up on those crossing routes or those short
Speaker 1: routes or Edelman or Westwalker or whoever or ground when
Speaker 1: he had them coming across those shorter routes, Oh no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no, because the minute you you step up, oh snap, yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's over your head. And those are backbreakers. And
Speaker 1: that's the point place where the cowboys have to get to.
Speaker 1: People aren't afraid of dat going over their head. And
Speaker 1: so that that that hinders everything else that he wants
Speaker 1: to do. When those windows become much more clouded and
Speaker 1: difficult to throw him because no one's afraid of you
Speaker 1: consistently throwing it over their head. So they come up
Speaker 1: and they crowd those windows. And now for a quarterback
Speaker 1: who isn't the most accurate quarterback in the league, it
Speaker 1: makes those windows much smaller to throw in, much harder
Speaker 1: to complete. And when you talk about how you're gonna
Speaker 1: look at the last couple of Super Bowls, minus the
Speaker 1: minus the Legion of Boom and that defense, and minus
Speaker 1: the Ravens defense, look at the quarterbacks of those teams
Speaker 1: who are winning the Super Bowls in the last ten years.
Speaker 1: All of those guys were probably through for thirty touchdowns.
Speaker 1: All those guys probably through forty five hundred yards plus. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're gonna listen to more rispect downfield the morning step.
Speaker 1: You're gonna you're gonna have to throw, but it's going
Speaker 1: to it's going to produce more of what you need.
Speaker 1: You need to score more points. You need to make
Speaker 1: this thing and an attacking offense this whole you know,
Speaker 1: ball control, run the clock out. Teams don't team don't
Speaker 1: fear that. They don't fear that, And it's going to
Speaker 1: come to bite you in the butt when the time
Speaker 1: when I'm tell you, man, I agree, I'm telling you, well,
Speaker 1: if he could have connected with some loans last year.
Speaker 1: You look at a different game. Yeah, that field they
Speaker 1: make you defend. That's what the good teams make you
Speaker 1: defend the whole field with one pass. He's been doing
Speaker 1: it in camp and preseason. Let's see if that translates
Speaker 1: to the regular season, because they could definitely you got
Speaker 1: Zeke get the defense on their heels. You had Zeke
Speaker 1: in the mix. And I can tell you John Kitten
Speaker 1: is not coaching. Like he ain't coaching that. He ain't
Speaker 1: coaching that, like he's telling Doc. Yeah, like that's who
Speaker 1: John Kitton is. Rip it, man, Listen, whatever happens happens.
Speaker 1: If that's if we call that play, and that's to
Speaker 1: play where the bass is about to go, let it
Speaker 1: go and if it if it fails, it fails. But
Speaker 1: that's where the balls supposed to go. And this and
Speaker 1: this set in this play, it's supposed to go to
Speaker 1: the deep posts. Throw it. And you know why he's
Speaker 1: saying that. You know why he really saying that because
Speaker 1: he don't work on every technique, every skill with his feet,
Speaker 1: with his eyes, with his hips, with his with his
Speaker 1: throwing up. He don't work arounds a million times. So
Speaker 1: now he's like what are you scared of? Trust? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Everything else is in place. Yeah. Well, today's show was
Speaker 1: just like me, short and sweet man. You gotta get
Speaker 1: to the locker rooms. So we're cutting a little short today.
Speaker 1: We will be back tomorrow. We're gonna go Cowboys defense,
Speaker 1: Giants offense. What else are we gonna do? What are
Speaker 1: we gonna do? Predictions Tomorrow Friday, Friday Friday, season of predictions? Yeah,
Speaker 1: season seasons, this season and our conferences. You know, we'd
Speaker 1: usually go who's gonna win the East, who's gonna win
Speaker 1: that West? Remember we do that doing the summer. But
Speaker 1: here we'll throw that in the next two days and
Speaker 1: we'll take some calls on Friday too. Yes, all right, Jesse,
Speaker 1: excited to meet meet mom's mama Crows. Your better should
Speaker 1: be here Friday. I'm excited. Thanks for cleaning the studio, Jesse, anytime, Nate,
Speaker 1: thanks for bringing us, Douglas, thanks for getting us on
Speaker 1: the air and keeping us on way you thanks for
Speaker 1: getting us on all the social and the websites. Caden,
Speaker 1: still not sure if you're doing anything with this show,
Speaker 1: but thank you. We will be back tomorrow one o'clock.
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