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Speaker 1: Welcome to The Favorites, the podcast presented by BET three

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Speaker 1: sixty five. We are part of the Volume Podcast Network.

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Speaker 1: I am Chad Nooman, Chief Content Officer of the Action Network.

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Speaker 1: I am joined as always by my co host, my companion,

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Speaker 1: Mike cam Padre, my BFF Professional Better Simon Hunter, l

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Speaker 1: O soymon, Hello, Chad.

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Speaker 2: My life will never be the same because of the

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Speaker 2: one thing in this world, Gold Zone. I don't know

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Speaker 2: if you experienced the new Gold Zone on Mbcpeacock, but

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Speaker 2: I'm addicted. I Lily wake up. I turn on a volcano,

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Speaker 2: which I know you don't know volcano ways, but young

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Speaker 2: kids know what it is. I go around the apartment,

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Speaker 2: I turn on all the TVs to the same channel

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Speaker 2: to gold put it on and it's just ten hours

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Speaker 2: of non stop action. I'm addicted to it. I can't

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Speaker 2: believe in a week we have to go back to

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Speaker 2: normal life. Chad.

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Speaker 1: I am so in love with the Gold Zone. It

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Speaker 1: ate up my entire weekend. At one point, my kid

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Speaker 1: walked into the living room when I was watching it,

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Speaker 1: and he goes, am I hearing things? Or is that

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Speaker 1: Scott Hanson? And I go, dude, Christmas has come early.

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Speaker 1: Because NBC is so smart, they gave us the Gold

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Speaker 1: Zone with Scott Hanson and also Andrew Ceciliano, who I

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Speaker 1: thought to me, that's who I watched on Red Zone

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Speaker 1: before Scott Hanson. I love Ceciliano, He's a fucking best.

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Speaker 1: So to be getting them in Gold Zone, dude, I'm

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Speaker 1: with you one hundred percent. The only thing better than

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Speaker 1: Gold Zone is talking about the NFC North. For today's

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Speaker 1: third installment in our annual NFL Division Preview series, we

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Speaker 1: discuss the NFC North and we are joined by a

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Speaker 1: very special guest. He's a longtime ESPN insider, NFL expert,

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Speaker 1: the recently elected president of the Malik Neighbors Fan Club,

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Speaker 1: also nearly my neighbor in central Connecticut. He is Feiliates.

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Speaker 3: Good afternoon, gentlemen, our guests, good morning, depending on what

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Speaker 3: time people are listening to this podcast. Yeah, hey, good

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Speaker 3: day somebody out there. I feel a ton of pressure

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Speaker 3: because I too am addicted to the Gold Zone, and

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Speaker 3: I too must stand for both Scott Hansen and Andrew Siciliano,

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Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, people are thinking about those

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Speaker 3: two gentlemen, which makes people very excited and makes people

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Speaker 3: feel a certain way that is experienced normally on Sundays

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Speaker 3: from one until about seven thirty pm e Eastern Time

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Speaker 3: for eighteen glorious Sundays during the year. They've been getting

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Speaker 3: that during the middle of July and August, I feel

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Speaker 3: like I better bring it or else I'm just going

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Speaker 3: to be an afterthought to those that have been fixated

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Speaker 3: instead on Red Zone and the upcoming season that we have.

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Speaker 1: The way you set that up just now, how people

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Speaker 1: are feeling certain things for Scott Hansen and Andrew Siciliano.

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Speaker 1: That's how Simon usually sets things up when he is

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Speaker 1: trying to get me and Matt Mitchell, our producer nervous

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Speaker 3: Get the PG on this show. Don't you best to

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Speaker 1: Of the way exactly, Although if we're talking about the

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Speaker 2: All right, I want to do a really quick field story. Field.

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Speaker 2: I'm an og Fantasy Focus fan, So if you don't

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Speaker 2: know the show Field Yates is an amazing show with

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Speaker 2: our guy dop Over at ESPN. They crushed it every

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Speaker 2: week talking fantacy football. And when he came on, I

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Speaker 2: mean this is years ago. There was a guy named

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Speaker 2: Nate rap who's a weasel, and it was Matthew Berry.

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Speaker 2: And again I wasn't the biggest fantasy football guy back

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Speaker 2: wouldn't believe this Matthew Berry. That's what his specialty used

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Speaker 2: to be. Like, he was a down to miss Rodi.

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Speaker 2: He was amazing at baseball. And the worst days of

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Speaker 2: loved this field yet it's just because he came. I

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Speaker 2: like Vanning Fantasy Focused fan, I was just like they

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Speaker 2: took away my weasel. They took away my weasel for

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Speaker 2: this handsome man with an amazing smile named Field Yates.

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Speaker 2: And I'll tell you when I finally broke and really

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Speaker 2: started really liking you, Fields, Eastpin did a weird thing

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Speaker 2: where they hypnotized all you guys. Do you remember this

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Speaker 2: when they hypnotized you?

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Speaker 3: Of course I do, Yeah, of course, dude.

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Speaker 2: That was my favorite experience of my life when they

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Speaker 2: hypnotized you. And not like that you were a robot

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Speaker 2: when he hypnotized you, but it was it was hilarious.

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Speaker 2: You were so into it that you were literally full

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Speaker 2: on what happened when you got hypnotized. You remember that

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Speaker 2: and you come out and people are like, dude, what

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Speaker 2: just happened to you on TV?

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Speaker 3: So, so a couple of things here. First of all,

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Speaker 3: Nate has nobody to blame but himself. Nate Rabbits is

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Speaker 3: just he keeps promoting himself, right, Nate, Who's like he's

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Speaker 3: a weasel influential figure. Yes, he's just he's a big boss. Now,

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Speaker 3: he doesn't I aim to, you know, waste an hour

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Speaker 3: of his day talking about fantasy football with peons like

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Speaker 3: He's now this big wig. Like, I send Nate an

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Speaker 3: Nate is very responsive. But yeah, I mean it was

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Speaker 2: Oh were you were you like twenty five, twenty six?

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Speaker 3: Well, it's also just like they have this. Here's what

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Speaker 3: we're totally comfortable with you doing it remote. And I

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Speaker 3: hypnotist scene. Not seeing that experience. We did the Fantasy

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Speaker 3: lots of different hands on deck, He's like, Hey, my

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Speaker 1: So it's funny, Simon, you don't even know this. You

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Speaker 1: just mentioned Daniel Dopp, who obviously is a regular on

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Speaker 1: at ESPN and is on air. Daniel Dopp was the

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Speaker 1: original producer of my gambling podcast on ESPN. How about

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Speaker 1: Daniel I offered Daniel Dopp the job to be lead

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Speaker 1: audio producer at the Action Network. Matt Matcheell is not

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Speaker 1: a part of the conversation dat I didn't even He

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Speaker 1: wasn't like he had He was still in school, he

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Speaker 1: that was too good of a deal for him. He

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Speaker 1: took it. I love Top you stay in touch. He's amazing,

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Speaker 1: He's got a great career going.

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Speaker 2: He's awesome, and he was just at the time, he

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Speaker 2: was different than what was in the fantasy space. I thought,

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Speaker 2: that's why I was like, sure, he was a smart,

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Speaker 2: smart move by you spent putting him in that spot.

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Speaker 1: Totally smart. Number one, number two, I know you guys

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Speaker 1: are shitting on Nate. And he played a great role

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Speaker 1: on the show.

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Speaker 2: I Love Nate.

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Speaker 1: Also also a good friend. He was just a good friend.

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Speaker 1: Of mine and people should know, like he's actually a

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Speaker 1: good guy in real life, he's the best. But he

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Speaker 1: had a great role on the show. It would not

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Speaker 3: Just the irony of all irony is that Nate was

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Speaker 2: And that's the thing with this team. It's like Field

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was. I was surprised when I was doing

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Speaker 3: the player that's going to single handedly lean carry a

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Speaker 3: team towards a deep playoff run. But I do think

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Speaker 3: Jared Goff, with the right pieces around him, can highly

433
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Speaker 3: can operate a system at a high level. And that's

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Speaker 3: exactly what Detroit has done with the pieces they have

435
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Speaker 3: placed around him. That great offensive line that Chad referenced

436
00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:50,560
Speaker 3: and this pretty intriguing offensive system run by Ben Johnson.

437
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Speaker 3: So the contract this offseason was no surprise to me.

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Speaker 3: I think it was a totally reasonable measure for Detroit

439
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Speaker 3: to take, and I am a general pro Jared Goff guy.

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Speaker 1: The Lions the past three years the best ATS record

441
00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:14,200
Speaker 1: since the Patriots in two thousand and sixteen. In fact,

442
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Speaker 1: they are one, two three, top seven in the past

443
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Speaker 1: twenty years. Patriots in two thousand and three to two

444
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Speaker 1: thousand and five seventy one percent, Chargers two thousand and

445
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Speaker 1: four to two thousand and six sixty nine percent, Patriots

446
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Speaker 1: sixty nine percent sixteen to eighteen, Minnesota sixty nine percent,

447
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:44,400
Speaker 1: sixty seven, sixty nine percent twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, Carolina

448
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Speaker 1: sixty seven percent, ninety four to ninety six, and then

449
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Speaker 1: the Detroit Lions. So a really good team the past

450
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Speaker 1: three years. And if I would say, bet regression at

451
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Speaker 1: your own peril, because they are good enough in the

452
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Speaker 1: areas that you need to be good to continue to

453
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Speaker 1: maintain success. They are not just an edge talent player team.

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Speaker 1: Green Bay nineteen to one to win the Super Bowl

455
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Speaker 1: plus two ten to win the Division over nine and

456
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Speaker 1: a half. Fourteenth, hardest schedule, offensive line ranking also middle

457
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Speaker 1: of the road fourteenth, defensive line ranking eleventh. I do

458
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Speaker 1: think there's potential with this defensive line, Like Rashaan Garry

459
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Speaker 1: is great, had his injuries, this use issues, so we

460
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Speaker 1: don't know that could be a higher number based on

461
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Speaker 1: one dominant player Devonte Wyatt, you know, Carl Brooks have potential. Honestly,

462
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Speaker 1: I think the biggest difference for their this defense, Simon

463
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Speaker 1: is Jeff Haffley, who quit as the head coach at

464
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Speaker 1: Boston College College Sports was going said, I am out

465
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Speaker 1: of here changing the defense from three four hundred Joe

466
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Speaker 1: Berry the past three seasons to a four to three.

467
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Speaker 1: This will be a much better defense. I don't know

468
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Speaker 1: that the preseason rankings reflect the potential of this defense.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the same old tune though, Chad. We've been

470
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Speaker 2: hearing this since bred farvdays. I mean every year you

471
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Speaker 2: hear that, you know, like all the ones and twos

472
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Speaker 2: they have on defense, all the first round, second round

473
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Speaker 2: picks they have on their defense, and every year they go, well,

474
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Speaker 2: it must be the coordinator. We'll bringing a new guy

475
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Speaker 2: for a couple of years, and it's just never really

476
00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:27,679
Speaker 2: panned out, right, I Mean, I still can't believe they

477
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 2: only have one ring to show for those Aaron Rodger years.

478
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Speaker 2: I mean, it really is mind blowing when you think

479
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Speaker 2: of the talent level.

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Speaker 1: I blame McCarthy. I think it's make I honestly, I think.

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Speaker 3: It's Brady and Mahomes and I'll explain that in a second.

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Speaker 1: But it's also right. It's also it's also Aaron Rodgers,

483
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Speaker 1: like he might have been too arrogant to acquiesce to

484
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Speaker 1: some of the things that needed to be done. I

485
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Speaker 1: don't want to go into tangent. I want to talk

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Speaker 1: about this team. Nine and a half is a win

487
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Speaker 1: total plus two ten as the division.

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Speaker 2: But you know there was just criminate to it like that.

489
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Speaker 2: One of our stupidest bets we've ever won in our

490
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Speaker 2: lives chat was we had the forty nine ers and a

491
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Speaker 2: plus number against Aaron Rodgers and we won it on

492
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Speaker 2: a block punt in like the fourth quarter, in which

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Speaker 2: a game that Green Bay's defense dominated the fort y

494
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Speaker 2: Aras offense. Fast forward to I think it was two

495
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Speaker 2: years later, the Fortyniners ran for like three hundred yards

496
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Speaker 2: against that greens Bay's defense right in the playoffs. It's

497
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 2: like it just never synced up with that Green Bay

498
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Speaker 2: team when their offense had it their defense and advice versas.

499
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Speaker 2: But the most interesting conversation about this team this year

500
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Speaker 2: is the fact that professionals are so split, Like I'm

501
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Speaker 2: talking guys that are betting down you know, six figures

502
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 2: big money right now on this Green Bay team because

503
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Speaker 2: they do believe in Jordan Love and what they saw.

504
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Speaker 2: And I'm just having a really hard time getting there, Chad,

505
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Speaker 2: because I want to believe because the film is unbelievable,

506
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Speaker 2: but it is the smallest of small samples, and it

507
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 2: was so perfect. I mean, he was flawless, pressure in

508
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 2: his face, he moved without even thinking about it outside

509
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Speaker 2: the pocket, throwing fifty yard bombs right down the scene

510
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Speaker 2: to guys right in stride. It was like, who is

511
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Speaker 2: this man? Like, I mean again, we had an offensive

512
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Speaker 2: tackle who played with him and pra this for years,

513
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:02,920
Speaker 2: and he said, we never saw that in practice. He

514
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 2: came in our podcast talked about it, and it's just like, okay,

515
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 2: if that's there is saying you never saw that in practice.

516
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 2: They didn't know right that they had to restructure his

517
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Speaker 2: deal for that feature option, because even the team was like,

518
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 2: we really don't know what Jordan Love is. They quickly

519
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 2: realized this dude's a gamer, and I think Lafloor realized

520
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 2: that as well, because he really opened up the playbook

521
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Speaker 2: the second half of the year and that's when it

522
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 2: all started working out. So that's why I want to

523
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 2: be hard on here, being like, you have to fade

524
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Speaker 2: this team regression and regression regression, which I think most

525
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:32,400
Speaker 2: common people think that way, But the tools are all there.

526
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 2: They have this incredible young group wide receivers that we

527
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Speaker 2: all just love, especially in the fantasy football community. It's

528
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Speaker 2: like you could debate for hours who you think is

529
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Speaker 2: going to be the number one receiver on this team,

530
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Speaker 2: like everyone has throwing an opinion at the end of

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Speaker 2: the day. I said it last year. I took a

532
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Speaker 2: lot of shit from Green Bay fans about it. Jordan

533
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Speaker 2: loved for them to make the playoffs. I said it,

534
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Speaker 2: he had to be a Pro Bowler, and I said,

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Speaker 2: I just I couldn't bet on him being a Pro bowler.

536
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Speaker 2: Little did I know he was going to be a

537
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Speaker 2: Pro Bowl and they were going to sneak in that

538
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Speaker 2: last seed. And it's like he had to play perfect again.

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Speaker 2: Eighteen touchdowns, win interception the end of the season, like

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Speaker 2: you just we had never seen anything like that. With

541
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Speaker 2: a guy who making his first four year as a starter,

542
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Speaker 2: so I get where people are at on this. My

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00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:09,639
Speaker 2: position has not changed though. Chat as much as I

544
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 2: want to talk myself into take on their over, I

545
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 2: just can't do it. I've taken their under, especially now

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Speaker 2: it's at plus one fifty plus one forty and a

547
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Speaker 2: lot of books the under a minus nine and a half.

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Speaker 2: I think they're right there. Nine wins in this division. Again,

549
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 2: the Bears are not going to be a walk over.

550
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 2: Two to zero win for this Green Bay team. I

551
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Speaker 2: think they split it, and I do have the lines

552
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Speaker 2: as well, giving them a better game than they did

553
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Speaker 2: in Thanksgiving. So my view of it is just Green Bay.

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Speaker 2: They had a really benefit of the schedule down the

555
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 2: stretch last year. This year we already talked about it.

556
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Speaker 2: Their schedule is much harder. I just I can't go

557
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 2: to the public care. I can't take this over. But

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Speaker 2: I see why people are doing it, just because it's

559
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:46,920
Speaker 2: all there, like the piece is the coaching, it's all

560
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 2: there for them to be great this year. It's just

561
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Speaker 2: I need to see it more from Jordan Love and

562
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Speaker 2: then I'll put my money behind it. Before Right now,

563
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Speaker 2: I'm happy to be the contrarion here and take their

564
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Speaker 2: under field.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna come to you in a sec. I just

566
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Speaker 1: wanted to put some context here because I am shocked, Simon.

567
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Speaker 1: There were three of the Packers and the Lions, and

568
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,679
Speaker 1: we are aligned that the Packers, or that the Lions

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Speaker 1: over ten and a half and the Lions plus one

570
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 1: fifty are the better values in this division, and that

571
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Speaker 1: we have more confidence in those bets than we do

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Speaker 1: in the Packers at plus two to ten and the

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Speaker 1: Packers over nine and a half. Because if before I

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Speaker 1: started doing the research, if you had send to me

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Speaker 1: two weeks ago we were gonna go this way, I

576
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Speaker 1: would have been like, no way, Like there's too much regression,

577
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 1: too much hype for the Lions. I do have some

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Speaker 1: stats that after field goes.

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Speaker 2: I mean, barbol did scare the shitt me when he

580
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Speaker 2: gave us allose stats about the Troy I'm not gonna lie.

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Speaker 1: I do want to give some stats about Matt Lafleur

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Speaker 1: and his success, because he'd be an amazing is amazing field.

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Speaker 1: Jordan love Mendoza line quarterback, even though he's even though

584
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Speaker 1: he's getting you know, Lebron James money.

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Speaker 3: Way above the Mendoza line way way above, and I'll

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Speaker 3: say this, Simon was smart and mentioning the fantas love

587
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 3: for the Packers wide receivers. It's almost like but it's

588
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 3: hard because they all could be values. But there's no

589
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 3: way that all four of their top receivers end up

590
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Speaker 3: being values. Like inevitably, one or two will rise and

591
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 3: one or two will fade. But what I will say

592
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 3: is that every time I think about, like which Packers

593
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Speaker 3: receiver do I like the most, which Packers tight end

594
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 3: do I like the most? Or how confident am I

595
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 3: in this reshaped and very very good offensive line, I

596
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 3: keep coming back and saying to myself, rather than worrying

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Speaker 3: about which Packers receiver I like the most or which

598
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Speaker 3: Packers tight ut I like the most, maybe I focus

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Speaker 3: on the possibility. And Chad, you can remove your headphones

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Speaker 3: for a second if you'd like the Jordan Love was

601
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 3: a dark horse MVP candidate this year. Oh my place

602
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 3: for this player to potentially be an NFL MVP not

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Speaker 3: my pick, but a dark horse MVP candidate, Jordan Love.

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Speaker 1: Here are some stats about Matt Lafleur. Okay that I

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Speaker 1: didn't realize. Okay, it was Matt Lafleur and Aaron Rodgers,

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Speaker 1: and Matt Flora looks brilliant because Aaron Rodgers was brilliant.

607
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Speaker 1: And then I think in Aaron Rodgers' last couple of years,

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Speaker 1: he did things that Matt Lafleur told him to do,

609
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Speaker 1: and he played better than he had in sort of

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Speaker 1: earlier years, right because he was on a downward trend.

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Speaker 1: Last year was the first year in which we were

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Speaker 1: Matt Lafleoor was proving what a good coach he is

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Speaker 1: no matter who's on the field, and we were blown

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Speaker 1: away by what he did with Jordan Love. Since getting

615
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Speaker 1: the job, he's fifty three and thirty seven against the spread,

616
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Speaker 1: second most profitable coach against the spread behind just Dan

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Speaker 1: Campbell of the Lions. He is an underdog in the Packers'

618
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Speaker 1: first game in Brazil. Matt Lafleur's Packers had been underdogs

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Speaker 1: thirty two times. He's covered twenty two of those by

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Speaker 1: an average of four points a game. In the first

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Speaker 1: three weeks of the regular season, before anyone is able

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Speaker 1: to make adjustments, Matt Lafloor thirteen and two against against

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Speaker 1: the spread. So we do like Matt Lafleur and also

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Speaker 1: think about this after they opened against the Eagles in Brazil,

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Speaker 1: Colts at home, Titans on the road, Vikings at home,

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Speaker 1: Cardinals at home. This team like is going to get

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Speaker 1: off to a very hot start, which makes me think, Simon,

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Speaker 1: if the Lions falter a little bit, it's going to

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Speaker 1: be time to buy back into the Lions even more.

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Speaker 2: I like that.

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Speaker 1: H There you go, all right, guys, Chicago Bears, we're

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Speaker 1: still live.

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Speaker 3: Just as for for those out there watching us live,

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Speaker 3: we just wanted to acknowledge you and thank you for yes,

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Speaker 3: thank you through that very clumsy thank you.

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Speaker 1: We're doing We're doing video in the digital video era.

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Speaker 1: This is what's going to happen.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know we're alive either. Thank god I didn't

639
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 2: make a bad joke that.

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Speaker 1: Thought it, which means all that stuff about Nate Ravits

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Speaker 1: ends up staying in.

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Speaker 2: It for Unfortunately.

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Speaker 1: Chicago Bears thirty five to one to win the Super

644
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 1: Bowl plus two sixty five to win the division. Season

645
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 1: win total is eight and a half. Strength of schedule. Again,

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Speaker 1: strength of schedule is based on projections of season win

647
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 1: totals by odds makers Chicago in the upcoming season, Chicago

648
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 1: has the third easiest schedule, third easiest schedule, which is

649
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 1: going to make their collapse all the more painful for

650
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 1: Chicago Bears fans. O Lion rank according to Pro Football Focus,

651
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 1: eleventh Tevin Jenkins at guard has become an anchor on

652
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 1: this offensive line. I would not have expected that after

653
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 1: he had a very slow start to his career. Top

654
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 1: five guard in the latter half of the season. This

655
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 1: team generally was great. Darnell Wright first round pick. Everyone

656
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 1: was like, what last year? He turned out great. I

657
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 1: think he's headed in the right direction. They're blocking efficiency

658
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 1: in the last half of the year was top ten

659
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 1: in the NFL, top half of the NFL. I mean

660
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 1: the problem is the defensive line. Montest Sweat their twenty

661
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 1: seventh ranked Montest Wett was great when he joined midway

662
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 1: through the year. Completely changed the defense, made them much

663
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 1: better front to back. The Bears had to get better

664
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 1: in so many spots. They needed an edge rudger, they

665
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 1: needed to help the offensive line. They needed to get

666
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 1: the quarterback. They needed to get the quarterback and receiver.

667
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 1: They did the right things to me by improving the

668
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 1: offensive line. Drafting Roma Dunze, you got to give him

669
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 1: what he needs because the window is so short that

670
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 1: d line is going to be a problem. And then

671
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 1: there's history, which we're going to talk about. But first field,

672
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 1: where'st my bubble on the Bears?

673
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 3: I so I think there are ways that we can

674
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 3: maybe speak out of both sides of them mouth as

675
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 3: it pertains to the Chicago Bears. This team's going to improve,

676
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 3: I think like quite a bit. And while Kayla Williams

677
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 3: is getting a ton of hype, I think sometimes we

678
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 3: are even ignoring, like what the potential extreme is here

679
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 3: for KILEB Williams, which is to b c J. Stroud

680
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 3: and be a quarterback that butts into the top five, six,

681
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 3: seven in the entire NFL right away. Strouded that last year.

682
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 3: Obviously that's possible for KILEB Williams, extremely bullish on the

683
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 3: player coming out of USC. To me, the clear cut

684
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 3: number one quarterback prospect, number one overall prospects in this

685
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 3: past two year's draft was Caleb Williams. I also am

686
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 3: going to be hesitant in just making the positive case

687
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:35,839
Speaker 3: for all four teams in division, and I've already done

688
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 3: so with two teams, which means that you can't totally

689
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 3: be all in on four, So I think the Bears

690
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 3: take some steps forward. I also think that this is

691
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 3: a team that might come up just the hairshy of

692
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 3: the playoffs, which in the NFC I think could be

693
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 3: a little easier than the AFC to get to. But

694
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 3: I think I stepped forward for the Bear to like

695
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,240
Speaker 3: eight or nine wins is very much in play without

696
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 3: it also including a trip to the postseason. And that's

697
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 3: where I'm at. Is that reasonable or no? Are you

698
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 3: mad at me?

699
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:09,919
Speaker 1: We okay, no, No, It's totally reasonable. And look there's

700
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 1: I'm like already game planning my Thursday night on August,

701
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:21,280
Speaker 1: you know, this Thursday when the Bears Hard Knocks premiere

702
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 1: at night Thursday.

703
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:24,840
Speaker 3: Thursday night.

704
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm planning a freaking party. But I'm looking

705
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,479
Speaker 1: down at I'm looking down at my phone right now

706
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,720
Speaker 1: because I want to find the latest odds for MVP

707
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 1: and look for Kayleb Williams, who right now is fifty

708
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 1: to one to an MVP. Okay, these would be the

709
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 1: shortest odds for any rookie in the last fifteen years.

710
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,240
Speaker 1: Let me give you some of the names on this list,

711
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:57,359
Speaker 1: and you will say to yourself, oh my God, this

712
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 1: guy is screwed right. Trey Lance was one hundred and

713
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 1: one twenty one, Joe Burrow one hundred to one, Okay

714
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,399
Speaker 1: to one hundred to one, Herbert one hundred to one.

715
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: It's gonna get ugly after this. Leonard Fournette one hundred

716
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 1: to one. Kyler Murray was eighty to one, Mac Jones

717
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 1: was eighty to one. Melvin Gordon in twenty fifteen seventy

718
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 1: five to one. The Bears are minus one ten to

719
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 1: make the playoffs. In the last fifteen years, Chicago has

720
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 1: had minus oided to make the playoffs three times and

721
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:36,240
Speaker 1: missed all three times. Simon, I could go on, pay Simon,

722
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 1: I could go on, But we got to walk away

723
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 1: from this Bears team.

724
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I'm the grim Reaper in comes to

725
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 2: this Bears team. In the hype, we had on a

726
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:52,359
Speaker 2: guy from Chicago, a radio host, and he was Danny Perkins. Yeah,

727
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 2: he's my favorite classic Chicago guy where he's just blind

728
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,320
Speaker 2: to the truth. I like, I feel like I stabbed

729
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 2: the horror. I told him the joke of Chicago's that's

730
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,359
Speaker 2: where qbs go to die and he was just like, oh,

731
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 2: that's not true. And in the weather and it's like,

732
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:07,799
Speaker 2: you know, the weather excuse doesn't work when in Green Bay,

733
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 2: Cleveland and Buffalo of all had guys that threw over

734
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 2: four thousand yards. It's just they've never had a guy

735
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:15,320
Speaker 2: like Williams. And Williams's the breaker of all these streaks

736
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,280
Speaker 2: they've had, Like he is the guy that we expect

737
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 2: that will change the history books for Chicago. It's if

738
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 2: he would have came out after his freshman year of Oklahoma,

739
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 2: he would have been the number one pick. Like this

740
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 2: kid has just been waiting for that day to be

741
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:28,800
Speaker 2: the number one pick his whole life. I mean you

742
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 2: talk about in high school, his dad was prepping him

743
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,320
Speaker 2: to be the number one pick, prepping him with media training.

744
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 2: It's like it's just next level. We can't even fathom

745
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 2: because it's just such a different world than we have

746
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 2: every even experienced. So Williams has so much pressure on him.

747
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 2: It doesn't work like that. In a football it's all

748
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,919
Speaker 2: about the guys who don't see coming that work out right.

749
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 2: It's the rock parties, the Ben Roethlisberger's right, the Stroud CJ.

750
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 2: We thought he'd be all right, and I think this

751
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 2: kid was going to throw whatever it was twenty three

752
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:57,359
Speaker 2: touchdown the five picks. No, my brain can't wrap my head.

753
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 2: I can't wrap my head around it. It's like we

754
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 2: never seen a rookie so small with the ball. That's

755
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 2: what Williams has to be. Like, if Kim Williams wants

756
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 2: to go over nine and a half wins, it's up

757
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 2: to nine and a half wins. Chad like that, that

758
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 2: to me is insane at this point, Like we we

759
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 2: talked to them getting drafted, it was seven and a half.

760
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 2: It has now been pushed up to nine and a half.

761
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 2: Chad just said they're Super Bowl odds are thirty five

762
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 2: to one. That is the dumbest bet you could ever

763
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 2: make in your life betting them to make it to

764
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 2: Super Bowl.

765
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 1: It's lower than they were simon last year when we

766
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 1: love them with Justin Fields, you know.

767
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 2: But they are They're a way better team this year.

768
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 2: That's why I understand why we're so upset that Fields

769
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 2: didn't get this chance. And it's like that's not how

770
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 2: football works, right, It's like they're the team who's doing

771
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:38,280
Speaker 2: the best they can trying to build. I mean, Poles

772
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,359
Speaker 2: has done an incredible job setting all this up, so

773
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 2: I already told you my bet for Chicago. If you

774
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 2: want to have fun, my bet is Williams overpassing yards.

775
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 2: I think that is something attainable. I think when we

776
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 2: talked about it was that three thousand, five hundred. It

777
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 2: might be up to three thoy six hundred seven hundred

778
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,720
Speaker 2: now just because the hype is just boiling so high now,

779
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 2: it's just it's crazy. So to me, I have to

780
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 2: bet the under nine and a half. But they're not

781
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 2: my favorite under team and it's kind of like Green Bay, right,

782
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:04,919
Speaker 2: I'm just throwing a little bit on their under stame

783
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 2: with Green Bay the fourth team we're gonna talk about here,

784
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 2: that's that's the team I love for an under. But

785
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:13,919
Speaker 2: this division has just gone from you know, we didn't

786
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 2: really know what they were last year, right, it was

787
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins Division. Jared Goff is kind of shocked. We

788
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 2: didn't really know we had Jordan of Love and really

789
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:23,360
Speaker 2: know no waving justin fields. To now this is a position,

790
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 2: this this division in a year or two could be

791
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 2: this the juggernaut in football. Right if Golf stays what

792
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,439
Speaker 2: he's doing and Jordan Love keeps us sending and Caleb

793
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 2: Williams works out and JJ works out. Wow, Like this

794
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 2: is a really tough division with some great coach and

795
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:38,399
Speaker 2: again we talked about it, even through is the worst

796
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 2: coach in this division, and it's not really close. Right,

797
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 2: we have the most doubts of him compared to the Vikings,

798
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 2: Green Bay and Detroit. So it's just the hype is

799
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 2: too high at this point, right, You just can't do it.

800
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 2: It's just not logical to bet this number, especially they're

801
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 2: over win total, even though it's at a number, it's

802
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:57,399
Speaker 2: at one fifty forty five right now, the under nine

803
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 2: and a half for an under for this team at

804
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 2: that price, I'm only eat the fig and the juice

805
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 2: on that just because again it opened at seven and

806
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,240
Speaker 2: a half and it's gone up two games just on hype.

807
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 2: So I just have to take that position.

808
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:18,240
Speaker 1: Chad Field Caleb Williams passing yardage that's a fantasy gold mine.

809
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 1: When you think about Caleb Williams as a fantasy quarterback,

810
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 1: doesn't match up with a yardage Hall that would go

811
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 1: as high as Simon is projecting.

812
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 3: So I have this quarterback thirteen right now. That's where

813
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 3: I have KILEB Williams in my quarterback rankings, and it's

814
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 3: right outside kind of a tier which ends with Jaden Daniels,

815
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 3: the number two pick in the draft.

816
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 1: But this is.

817
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 3: Fantasy football, this is not real life football, where I

818
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 3: don't know about the future of Caleb Williams.

819
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:46,399
Speaker 2: At least.

820
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 3: Out of the gates is how much rushing do we

821
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 3: see from Kileb Williams into design nature. They've got so

822
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 3: many players around Kileb Williams, so the Bears may say,

823
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 3: why bother risking our quarterback in any way, shape or

824
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 3: form when we can just hand the ball off to

825
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 3: backfill now led to by DeAndre Swift or throw to

826
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,800
Speaker 3: what is immediately in competition for the best receiving trio

827
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 3: in the NFL. So yeah, the passing total is probably

828
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 3: the gateway for Killer Williams to have a massive fantasy season,

829
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 3: So I could I think I'm buying with sion is

830
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:19,399
Speaker 3: Simon is selling right now?

831
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 1: The Bears win total at nine and a half, that

832
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,800
Speaker 1: would be the third team to have a win total

833
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 1: of nine or more after selecting a QB in the

834
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:36,760
Speaker 1: top five of the NFL draft. The other teams twenty

835
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,760
Speaker 1: twenty one San Francisco forty nine ers with Trey Lance

836
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 1: at ten and a half nineteen ninety two. Neither of

837
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 1: you fuckers were born yet New York Giants ninety two.

838
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 3: I was born. Yeah, it was a couple of years.

839
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 1: New York Giants, David Brown.

840
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,839
Speaker 2: Wow, that's a big cuts right there.

841
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 3: Up.

842
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 1: Here's another reason, another reason to fade the Chicago Bears.

843
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 1: It's the highest team over under for a drafted for

844
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 1: a quarter for a team that's drafted quarterback first overall

845
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 1: in the wild Card Era since nineteen eighty one, Team

846
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 1: Chicago Bears. That's it. After that again, the Giants and

847
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:31,359
Speaker 1: Dave Brown, Bryce Young and the Panthers, I think they're

848
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 1: you too early because we know we love the Panthers

849
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 1: this year. And then the Rams and Jared got so

850
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 1: everything that is that Caleb Williams is tied to Caleb

851
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 1: Williams right now is unprecedented when it comes to team expectations.

852
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 2: It's impossible to look up to It's it truly is impossible.

853
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 3: You know. It's this is so Chad is just setting

854
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 3: himself up. You are just emotionally preparing yourself. Is what

855
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 3: you're doing here. I see it, I see it.

856
00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 1: By the way you nailed it. I am just so

857
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 1: getting ready so I can be in case it's a

858
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:06,360
Speaker 1: little bit of an emotional hedge.

859
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 2: Fair enough, it goes great if he does get the

860
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 2: ten wins, Chad, you can go. You can do a

861
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 2: whole episode just going off how great he is. I

862
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,359
Speaker 2: support it because that, to me would be him going

863
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 2: ten and seven in that division. That would be truly

864
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 2: an incredible feat when.

865
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 1: He goes to ten, When he goes to ten and

866
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:25,359
Speaker 1: seven throws for four thousand yards and twenty five touchdowns.

867
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 1: We're just turning this into the Chicago Bears podcast. God,

868
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 1: I can guarantee you that a podcast. It won't be

869
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 1: in the near future. Minnesota Vikings podcast. This team is

870
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:42,320
Speaker 1: eighty to one plus one thousand to win the division,

871
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 1: six and a half of the win total. I think

872
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 1: that's being generous because their strength to schedule is fifth hardest.

873
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 1: Their O line rank is thirteenth. Obviously, Christian Derishad just

874
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 1: signed a huge contract. Third best pass block and tackle

875
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 1: per PFF in twenty twenty three. The rest of the

876
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 1: line is mediocre, and the d LI rank if the

877
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 1: Bears were like and oh at twenty seventh, the Vikings

878
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 1: are in oh crap at thirtieth, Daniel Hunter gone to

879
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:16,760
Speaker 1: the Tecans. Texans their best player now Andrew Van Ginkel,

880
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 1: who at twenty nine just had a career year for

881
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 1: the Dolphins and did smart thing. Got a bag off

882
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 1: of that one year, but he's generally battled injuries through

883
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 1: his career. We don't know who the quarterback is yet.

884
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 1: Whoever it will be is playing behind an average offensive

885
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 1: line in a brutal opening schedule. So Field, gimme, gimme

886
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:41,879
Speaker 1: something to hang on to for the Vikings if you can.

887
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 3: All right, So, Kevin O'Connell's a really really good head coach.

888
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,399
Speaker 3: Who is going to be Kevin O'Connell tutor? Yep, left,

889
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 3: Kevin O'Connell's going to be awesome for whoever is the

890
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 3: starting quarterback sounds more and more like it's going to

891
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:55,319
Speaker 3: be Sam Darnold the beginning of the season, but it

892
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 3: won't last long, as I think eventually JJ McCarthy is

893
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 3: going to take over this job as a rookie. I'm

894
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 3: not going to sit here and go full Mike Golick

895
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 3: junior on you with offensive line talk, but I want

896
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 3: to put a little bit more respect on our guy.

897
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 3: Brian O'Neill, their right tackle I think is a good

898
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 3: player as well. And maybe if you're looking for something

899
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 3: to hang your hat on, it's that this team last

900
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 3: year when Kirk Cousins was outstayed frisky. I'm generally less

901
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:22,280
Speaker 3: optimistic here. Somebody is going to have to finish fourth

902
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 3: in this division. If I had to cast my die

903
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 3: on one team as of right now, it's Minnesota. I

904
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 3: think the coaches on both sides of the ball are

905
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 3: very good. I do think there are some enough question

906
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 3: marks at key roster spots that I am just a

907
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 3: touch concern about this team.

908
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 1: Where else do you have question marks? Because to me,

909
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 1: I don't know where you don't have question marks on

910
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:43,839
Speaker 1: this team? Oh?

911
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 3: Really?

912
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 1: Yeah?

913
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 3: I mean the wide receiver room really really good. Justin

914
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 3: Jefferson by himself makes the wide receiver room good. But

915
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:51,359
Speaker 3: Jordan Attison, a first round pick last year. We'll see

916
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 3: whether he finished faces punishment or not for a recent

917
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:59,760
Speaker 3: incidents that frankly, I can't imagine how he put himself

918
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:04,360
Speaker 3: in that that of a spot once again. Second so

919
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:06,360
Speaker 3: I think it was was it speeding less or not?

920
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 3: We don't have to sit here and go through it all.

921
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:12,840
Speaker 3: But yes, two separate incidents that were not good defensively.

922
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 3: You know, they kind of like they punched above their

923
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 3: weight last year. Because Brian Flores is really good, they

924
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 3: found an undrafted gym and I have in pace linebacker

925
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 3: Dallas Turner plus Andrew Van Ginkel plus Jonathan Gernard forms

926
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 3: a pretty decent pass rushing trio if you ask me.

927
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 3: The secondary is thin, but maybe because of the chaotic

928
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 3: scheme that Brian Flores employees, you don't need to be

929
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:39,399
Speaker 3: quite as loaded at cornerback. I've talked to many, many,

930
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 3: many defensive coaches over many years who have told me

931
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 3: time and again it is much easier to cover up

932
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 3: for deficient cornerback room with a great rush than it

933
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 3: is the inverse, especially with the way that the NFL

934
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 3: is officiated these days and how restrictive the rules are

935
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:55,800
Speaker 3: for defensive backs. So, yeah, that will be my case

936
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,839
Speaker 3: for them to be a competitive team this year. More

937
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 3: competitive than you might think based off their roster. But

938
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 3: I do think this team is four out of four

939
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:04,880
Speaker 3: in this division.

940
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll just stay off the top. This is one

941
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 2: of the teams I'm taking my larger positions on to

942
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 2: be one of the worst teams on football, and it

943
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 2: stinks because I do love they're coaching so much. But

944
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:16,800
Speaker 2: Chad just nailed it. If you're if you're not driving,

945
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 2: open up your phone real quick and go and look

946
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 2: at their schedule. Their first their first game against the

947
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 2: Giants is definitely winnable, but the next eight are brutal.

948
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 2: Like there, it's a brutal opening slate for them with

949
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:29,439
Speaker 2: the let.

950
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 1: Me read it, everybody right, They got the Giants and

951
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 1: look we like, we liked the Giants.

952
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:36,360
Speaker 2: I love the Giants, Simon.

953
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 1: You and I have bet the Giants already. It's going

954
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 1: to be one of the five picks that we love.

955
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 1: Then they have the Niners, Texans, Packers, Jets, Lions, Rams.

956
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 1: If you listen to the Action Network podcast with Stucky

957
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:55,760
Speaker 1: and Raybon, they did their AFC NFC previews in May.

958
00:47:56,560 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 1: Stucky had a great bet. Is there a team that

959
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 1: might be better to bet on to be the last

960
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 1: winless team than the Minnesota Vikings? Like they could be?

961
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 1: They could be and eight.

962
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 2: And the only reason I haven't made that better is

963
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 2: just because I have so much invested in that Week

964
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 2: one that if can't I can't take double l's on

965
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:22,279
Speaker 2: that if they beat the Giants, that would kill me.

966
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:26,880
Speaker 2: But you nailed a Chad where it's just even if

967
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:30,399
Speaker 2: they somehow improve a little bit on defense, last year

968
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 2: was so far above it and it's just I just

969
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 2: can't see they don't have the pieces. To me, it's

970
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 2: a it's a team that's in a total rebuild. And again,

971
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:40,319
Speaker 2: we we talk all the time about this where it's

972
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 2: like coaching can really steal you a couple of wins.

973
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 2: I mean, Brian Gable won a couple of games with

974
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:46,959
Speaker 2: his third string quarterback against you know, pretty good teams

975
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 2: last year. It's like these these coaches even here, you

976
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 2: know they have that they had the past or not

977
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:53,799
Speaker 2: winning games for them a couple of games. We know

978
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,439
Speaker 2: these things can happen. So again, I wouldn't be shocked

979
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:58,439
Speaker 2: if they do. Someone I get the four wins six

980
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 2: and a half. Six and a half wins is what

981
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 2: the books are hanging it out right now. So this

982
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 2: is it under I've just been hitting heavy and I

983
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:07,400
Speaker 2: know selfish, I didn't want to talk about too much

984
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:08,839
Speaker 2: cause I wanted to keep getting a ton of value

985
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 2: on it so I could bet it all summer. I'm

986
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 2: tapped out. I don't need to put any more into this.

987
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:15,280
Speaker 2: It's like, I am so fat on betting this game's

988
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 2: under It's like I can't, I can't bet anymore. So

989
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 2: if you want to go out and bet them worst

990
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:22,239
Speaker 2: records still plus, you know, I think it was twelve

991
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 2: to one or thirteen to one. In most books, it's

992
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:26,240
Speaker 2: come down to eleven to one a couple so shop around.

993
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:28,320
Speaker 2: But and again I don't want to bring up to

994
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:30,919
Speaker 2: sports book. There is one sports book that don't bet

995
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:32,839
Speaker 2: any NFL futures on them because they're going to tax

996
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 2: you extra after January. So make sure you're with a

997
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 2: book that's not going to crush your futures after January,

998
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:41,240
Speaker 2: because again, the season runs until after January. Now, people,

999
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:44,479
Speaker 2: that's that's how long the season is. So this Vikings team,

1000
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:48,839
Speaker 2: to me, it's just it's a classic case of they

1001
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 2: knew what they're going to be and they let Kirk walk, right,

1002
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 2: They could have brought Kirk back to do another nine

1003
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 2: and eight, ten and seven kind of season, right. That's

1004
00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:58,880
Speaker 2: that this, like Field said, they have some of the

1005
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:01,319
Speaker 2: best receivers on football, Like, they have the pieces here

1006
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 2: to make it all work. You know, even TJ is

1007
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 2: coming back off a big injury. I still think he'll

1008
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 2: be a solid play for them.

1009
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1010
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:10,239
Speaker 2: Defensive wise, Oh, they're gonna be terrible. And now you

1011
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 2: bring in the fact that I just talked about Jordan

1012
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 2: Lovey in The Ultimate Gamer. Sam Donald is whatever the

1013
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 2: opposite of that is. This is the guy who, in

1014
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:22,240
Speaker 2: practice he is number three overall, can't miss throwing dimes

1015
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 2: in corner pocket Sam Donald. Once the game starts, Ghosts

1016
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 2: Ghost Ghost Ghosts, and we talked about it, he's now

1017
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 2: he might be starting his first game back into that

1018
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 2: stadium that you know he has PTSD, going back to

1019
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 2: met Life, like that's where it all went wrong for him.

1020
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 2: So to me, they're in a spot where it's like,

1021
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:40,799
Speaker 2: I don't know why they wouldn't just start jj E.

1022
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:43,440
Speaker 2: And if he's gonna be rough out the gate, who cares? Like,

1023
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:45,399
Speaker 2: who cares? If it's rough out the gate? You're you're

1024
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 2: literally just trying to get this guy reps and get

1025
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:49,760
Speaker 2: him experienced because he didn't have the reps in college,

1026
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:51,319
Speaker 2: Like he just was not passing as much as you

1027
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 2: needed him to throw. So to me, he's my most

1028
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:57,359
Speaker 2: most exciting prospect. Me and you talked about before during

1029
00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 2: the draft chat. This is a kid that won in

1030
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:01,799
Speaker 2: high school and then he won in college, and he

1031
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 2: was always the guy right. He was always number one ranked,

1032
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 2: number two ranked kid coming out of high school, always

1033
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 2: was a big known player at Michigan. He lived up

1034
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:13,439
Speaker 2: to all those expectations. So to me, Minnesota, I'm taking

1035
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 2: a giant dump on your chest right now, and I'm

1036
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:17,839
Speaker 2: so sorry about it. I'm just shitting on you guys,

1037
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 2: and I hate your team this year. The future is

1038
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 2: so bright if he does stay with this coaching staff

1039
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 2: and they do keep putting the pieces around him. But man,

1040
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 2: is this season gonna suck? Like you guys? I just

1041
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 2: said it. You could easily be zero to nine, and

1042
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:34,360
Speaker 2: it's like you wouldn't be shocked. That's a juggernaut start

1043
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 2: to the season for either Sam Darnold or JJ. It's

1044
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 2: just brutal how the schedule makers laid it out. So

1045
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:42,759
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm Minnesota, but they got to be one

1046
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:43,880
Speaker 2: of my favorite unders the season.

1047
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:45,280
Speaker 1: Check now you're.

1048
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 3: Allowed back in the Twin Cities again.

1049
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:49,880
Speaker 1: Field. You talk to a lot of guys and you

1050
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 1: mentioned Kevin O'Connell, and I love Kevin O'Connell. I agree

1051
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:55,399
Speaker 1: with him. I love him. I think he's a great coach.

1052
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 1: And I felt like, you know, Brian Daball and him

1053
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:02,800
Speaker 1: started the same time, and I felt like Brian Daball

1054
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:05,279
Speaker 1: got too much credit for being a great coach that

1055
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 1: first year with the Giants, and I don't think Kevin

1056
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:09,319
Speaker 1: O'Connell got enough credit last year.

1057
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 2: Well, he did beat him on the row with Daniel j.

1058
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:15,280
Speaker 1: I'm not saying. I'm not saying Brian David didn't deserve

1059
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:17,800
Speaker 1: the credit and that Kevin O'Connell didn't deserve the blame

1060
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:22,359
Speaker 1: for those games. I'm saying last year, Brian, what Kevin

1061
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 1: O'Connell did, after Kirk Cousins went out, after Justin Jefferson

1062
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:29,360
Speaker 1: went out with a really poorous defense that Brian Flores

1063
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:31,799
Speaker 1: was doing as good as he could could with. He

1064
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:34,719
Speaker 1: still put that team in a lot of great spots

1065
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 1: where they had a path to the playoffs, starting guys

1066
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 1: like off the street. When you look at Kevin O'Connell,

1067
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 1: you mentioned he's a good coach. What do you like

1068
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:44,400
Speaker 1: about him, What do you like about what he does

1069
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 1: with quarterbacks? What do you hear from other people you

1070
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 1: talk to in the league.

1071
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, so Kevin O'Connell is an excellent making the quarterback

1072
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 3: decisions easy coach for him. Right, I'm not saying that

1073
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 3: there aren't complex nuances to the offense. There certainly are,

1074
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Speaker 3: but he allows things to slow down for quarterbacks. He

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00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 3: also allows them to not have to worry about factors

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Speaker 3: that are out of their control. If they have poorous

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00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:08,319
Speaker 3: offensive line play, if the receivers are hurt, he can

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Speaker 3: find ways to help make the scheme easier. His demeanor

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00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:14,399
Speaker 3: is really good as well. I think we are more

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Speaker 3: and more in a generation or an era, whatever you

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Speaker 3: want to call it, of tough love coaching not being

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Speaker 3: the norm anymore. Right in part, I think you can

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00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:24,279
Speaker 3: trace that to the roots of college football, where these

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00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:26,439
Speaker 3: guys are now getting paid, and if you have a coach,

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Speaker 3: it's dropping the hammer on a kid. He can say,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna take my millions upon millions of dollars from

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Speaker 3: nil money and go somewhere else because I have an

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Speaker 3: opportunity to go somewhere where they might tribute, like Worldy,

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Speaker 3: even if I'm in a bit of a funk. So

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Speaker 3: Kevin O'Connell is a very high relatability level. Maybe it's

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Speaker 3: because he played in the NFL as a quarterback, even

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Speaker 3: if it was briefly really smart guy, somebody who seems

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Speaker 3: to have the capacity to ride the wave a little

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Speaker 3: bit as well. Things haven't always been easy for the Vikings.

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Speaker 3: We saw that last year when Kirk Cousins was hurt.

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Speaker 3: They still found a way to kind of keep that

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Speaker 3: outlook and they ended up like proving it right, like

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00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:08,439
Speaker 3: they were hanging tougher than many of us expected down

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Speaker 3: the stretch last season, which not only excluded Kirk Cousins,

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Speaker 3: but of course did not include Justin Jefferson for a

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00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 3: huge stretch of games.

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Speaker 1: A couple weeks ago, I think it was last week, actually,

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Speaker 1: Simon was in Connecticut and he came by my house

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Speaker 1: and we had lunch together in the kitchen with my wife.

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Speaker 1: He met my younger son, and when he and I

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Speaker 1: were having lunch with my wife, he was talking about betting,

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Speaker 1: and you know, she was surprised to learn that I

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Speaker 1: we were talking about betting and the way he talked

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Speaker 1: about betting with the confidence he talked about it. That night,

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Speaker 1: Stacey looked at me and she says, how are we

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Speaker 1: not giving this guy all of our money. I feel

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Speaker 1: like no matter what we give him, we would come

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Speaker 1: out better in the end.

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Speaker 3: The jillionaires, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Jillionaires, we'd have. So she was so taken and enamored

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Speaker 1: by his confidence and his story and his humanity, and

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Speaker 1: he's so personable. She loved it. So I think all

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Speaker 1: give it to Simon.

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Speaker 2: Tell her six and a half check.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's what I'm gonna say. What we're gonna do

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Speaker 1: the AFC and NFC South and now the NFC North

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Speaker 1: Vikings under six and a half. Simon loves it. I

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Speaker 1: love it. I feel I don't want to put words

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Speaker 1: under six six and a half? I do you know.

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Speaker 3: I continue to feel as though this is a team

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Speaker 3: that might be four of four years. So I think

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Speaker 3: we largely agree on our assessment of where things are

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00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 3: going to shake out. I feel even stronger about how

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00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:02,799
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Speaker 2: Would you still take Justin Jefferson the first round knowing

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Speaker 2: all what you know now? Or would you? Yeah, you

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Speaker 2: wouldn't bump him down a little bit.

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Speaker 3: No, he's fine by me. He's you know, generational in

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Speaker 3: terms of talent, are close to it. And you know,

1146
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:23,319
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00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:25,480
Speaker 3: mean he came back and was playing with Jaron Pall

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