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Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff You Missed in History Class from housetof

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Speaker 1: works dot com. Hello, and welcome to the podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: Fara Dowdy and I'm Deblina Chocolate Boardy and today Debilina

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Speaker 1: and I are going to be talking about dogs, but

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Speaker 1: specifically war dogs. Yes, I mean dogs are one of

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Speaker 1: my favorite topics. Anyway, I am a near dog. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I'm the owner of an adorable wheat and terrier named Dully,

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Speaker 1: and I talked about him, probably way too much, but

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Speaker 1: that's not what inspired this podcast. Um. Actually the news did, right, Sarah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: war dogs have been in the news quite a bit lately,

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Speaker 1: as I'm sure many of you have realized. After Osama

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Speaker 1: bin Laden was killed and it was revealed that a

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Speaker 1: war dog, more appropriately a military working dog was present. Um,

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Speaker 1: it got people's attention. People wanted to know about these

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Speaker 1: militarily inclined dogs. But it it's been on our minds

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Speaker 1: really for longer than that, because we have quite a

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Speaker 1: bit of Animal Planet content that we work on here

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Speaker 1: at how stuffworks dot com, and UM, war dogs come

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Speaker 1: up from time to time, and those articles. Yeah, actually,

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Speaker 1: one that we're going to mention today came up last

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Speaker 1: year when we were editing some bully breed content, so

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Speaker 1: that will be something that you can read about later too, exactly.

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Speaker 1: And we even have an article on war dogs too,

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Speaker 1: which will throw to you at the end. But our

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Speaker 1: very own editor, Alison louder Milk, recommended it to her

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Speaker 1: to us and it was sort of the final push

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Speaker 1: to get us going on this topic. But we have

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Speaker 1: talked about dogs before, or rather Katie and Candice have

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Speaker 1: more like historical pooches of famous people, and Katie and

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Speaker 1: I have talked about war horses of history, so Napoleon's Marango,

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Speaker 1: Roberty Lee's traveler, Babiaka who is el Sid's horse. But

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Speaker 1: in case you haven't listened to that episode, we really

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Speaker 1: didn't get much beyond the Civil War because horses, of course,

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Speaker 1: even though they were used for thousands of year in

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Speaker 1: battle all around the world, eventually became obsolete military technology.

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Speaker 1: That is not the case with dogs. No war dogs

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Speaker 1: and s Air mentioned they're now more properly called military

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Speaker 1: working dogs were used probably as far back as when

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Speaker 1: humans domesticated the gray wolf, and they're still used today

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Speaker 1: since there's still no better means of detecting an i e. D.

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Speaker 1: Than a dog's nose. Even the most complex technology can't compete.

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Speaker 1: And there are a few qualities and you're gonna see

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Speaker 1: these pop up in the different dogs, the different individual

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Speaker 1: dogs we talk about. But a few qualities that make

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Speaker 1: dogs useful for warfare throughout history. One, their strength and

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Speaker 1: loyalty makes them really good fighters. Also, their endurance makes

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Speaker 1: them good messengers, and their intelligence and eagerness to please

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Speaker 1: make them trainable. Yeah, and then there's their fives too,

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Speaker 1: And that's something which of course varies a lot between breeds,

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Speaker 1: and it makes them either really big and intimidating and

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Speaker 1: very easily go. So, starting sort of in the early

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Speaker 1: days with ancient warfare, ancient Persians, Syrians, Babylonians, and Greeks

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Speaker 1: all are known to have used dogs in war, usually

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Speaker 1: as shock troops. They'd have a line of mastiffs, which

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Speaker 1: if I was fighting and a lot of mastiffs came

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Speaker 1: for a minute. It's probably massives that you think of too,

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Speaker 1: if you're considering ancient warfare. Ancient dogs in warfare, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're Egyptian monuments to that effect as far back as

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Speaker 1: three thousand BC that show massiff like dogs. Caes are

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Speaker 1: But if you're thinking about war dogs today or even

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Speaker 1: You're probably thinking of two breeds in particular that are

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Speaker 1: major wars. And those are German Shepherds, which were bred

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Speaker 1: the tutor warship the mary Rose, which we've talked about

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Speaker 1: quote analysis of Hatch's bones suggests that she spent most

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Speaker 1: So then his blood Yeah, so I think you're probably

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Speaker 1: right about that. But Stubby received many honors for his

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Speaker 1: heroics after the armistice. He met President Woodrow Wilson when

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Speaker 1: And I think it's interesting that more and more people

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Speaker 1: are a couple of great Rebecca Shaffer war dog galleries

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Speaker 1: it was a very US focus, So especially love to

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Speaker 1: know about any international war dogs that we didn't learn about.

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