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Speaker 1: that's okay, So this is my day now. So and

424
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Speaker 1: actually a lot of people have this has been written about,

425
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,439
Speaker 1: but you know, the last word of the last person

426
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 1: on D Day was so, I guess that's the thing.

427
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 1: That's just people people think history is not fun, and

428
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 1: it's like so fun to learn about this stuff, Like

429
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:36,159
Speaker 1: it just is so funny. It's funny. I didn't know

430
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 1: you were like an academia ahead, Like I really thought

431
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 1: that was more of a George thing. But you know that, well,

432
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 1: mostly history specifically just um and you know, I don't

433
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 1: take pride in it, but um, it's just no one

434
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 1: should take pride in having knowledge, no, no, non of

435
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,679
Speaker 1: which should we do our first segments here? Oh my god,

436
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 1: I forgot we were doing a podcast. Yeah, well, and

437
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:07,359
Speaker 1: you know, as the debate rages on, we do have

438
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 1: to point out that that's very conservative of you to

439
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 1: sort of, um stick to that structure. Are you guys

440
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:22,120
Speaker 1: gonna introduce us? Should just lay low? Sorry? Sorry, sorry,

441
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 1: So I think we're gonna do our first segment um,

442
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 1: just to sort of move on from with us. Today

443
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 1: we have two such funny comedians. These guys are sort

444
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 1: of changing the game. When they broke onto the scene,

445
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 1: I said, wow, this is comedy. When they splashed onto

446
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 1: the scene, I said, well, I guess I'll retire now.

447
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 1: You know, when I first heard them do um sort

448
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 1: of their folk duo stick, I said, Okay, I guess

449
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 1: I'm sucking out of a job. Please welcome Garfunklin notates Hi,

450
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 1: I'm Hi, I'm I'm Oats. I don't wait, I don't know.

451
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 1: I don't know the other one. Yeah, sorry, Jermaine, that's

452
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 1: the other one. Yeah, Jermy, Jermaine Clement. Okay, let's do

453
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 1: our first segment. George, will you explain it? Yeah? So,

454
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 1: in this first segment, this is a podcast in theory

455
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 1: about straight culture, but in practice, about about each of

456
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 1: us uncovering new layers of our psyches day by day, um,

457
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 1: but also putting more layers on top of those layers.

458
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 1: So the first segment is called straight Shooters, And in

459
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 1: this segment we give you a series of rapid fire

460
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 1: questions where we give you two straight things and you

461
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 1: just have to gravitate towards one. There's not that much

462
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 1: logic to it, and you're not allowed to ask any

463
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 1: follow up questions. You just have to. It's you just

464
00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 1: have to really pick one. That's kind of one things.

465
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 1: What I'm about to do is not ask a question.

466
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 1: I'm going to make a statement right now. Okay, I'm

467
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 1: curious whether Riginte and I should have separate answers or

468
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 1: the same answer. I have the same curious about that

469
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, yeah, no, I I'm also curious about it.

470
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 1: So should we get started. Let's do it. Awesome statement,

471
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 1: it's a good statement. We'll start out easy paper or

472
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 1: plastic paper? Plastic? Oh you guys are supposed to answer together.

473
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 1: That was obvious paper No, no paper, Okay, Um. The

474
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 1: next one selfie stick or self suck. I go ahead,

475
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 1: suck suck suck. The two genders for the three Musketeers,

476
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 1: three Musketeers, The three Musketeers. Really what you wanted to answer?

477
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 1: Or yeah, no, yeah, or no yeah, Jeremy, is that

478
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 1: what I wanted to answer, That's what I wanted to answer? Interesting, dynamic, awesome? Um, okay,

479
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 1: do they cover or a boo bley cover blay, don't say,

480
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 1: I just down facing dog or south facing bay windows,

481
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 1: south facing bay windows, south facing bay windows. Do you

482
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 1: feel like you can't answer? First, south facing bay windows? Okay? Next,

483
00:31:52,320 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 1: film cinema flicks or talkies. So they're okay, four possible,

484
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 1: some four possibilities here? Is that a statement? There are sorry,

485
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 1: there are four possibilities. There are four pility period period

486
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 1: and please listen to them again. Um, film cinema flicks

487
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 1: or talkies. Oh I was imagining talkies. The food. Um,

488
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 1: that's tacos all right? Sorry, I never know how to

489
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 1: pronounce that, so does any ahead? I'm going with taos.

490
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 1: When we have to answer a question like that's when

491
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 1: and I are at our worst is when we're answering

492
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 1: good questions. So I'm just explaining why this is going

493
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 1: poorly for us. Yeah, well that's helpful. Yeah, I thought

494
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 1: I think I think it's going pretty good. Yeah, I

495
00:32:56,200 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 1: think you know what your criteria. I think that's a

496
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 1: good way to describe this whole episode so far. Yeah, yeah,

497
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you. I have a question g Noam

498
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 1: Chomsky or Nicky Blonsky. I don't know who she's the

499
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 1: start movie Hairspray, the movie, the movie version of hairs

500
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 1: the movie version of the musical version of the movie

501
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 1: Hairspray with John Travolta. Yeah, John Travolta plays her mom.

502
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 1: But don't read too much into it. It's not gay, guys, Yeah,

503
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 1: he's not gay. Stop being weird about something like that.

504
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 1: I just want to say, like I didn't Jeer, like

505
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 1: I know a lot of you know, you're kind of

506
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 1: a shock jock, uh provocateur. But like Timmy, I draw

507
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 1: the line at people saying John Travolta is gay. It's

508
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 1: just not right reputation like that. I just think that

509
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 1: when he said it just is. When he said Adele

510
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 1: does he, I was like, he's being really gay. You

511
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 1: said he's being really gay. I remember that we were

512
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 1: at watch that together and you turned to me and

513
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,399
Speaker 1: you said that's so gay, and then Hary Knaff turned

514
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 1: to you and said it is because you guys were

515
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 1: surrounded by it. Girls yeah, well right, so it's there

516
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 1: have to be. Usually when Jeremy and I are together,

517
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 1: there at least three to four eight girls around. Yeah,

518
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 1: we got our arms around. Yeah, but each of us

519
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 1: actually have our arms around two eight girls. And then

520
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 1: Jeremy goes, that's so gay, and then the two eight

521
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 1: girls together say totally. Yeah. They just say they like yes,

522
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 1: me and stuff. Yeah, Daddy, dynamic, Yeah, they call you daddy. Yeah.

523
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,399
Speaker 1: It's like it's like, I'm in the first to admit

524
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 1: it's very problematic. I've seen you with it. Girls on

525
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 1: your lap and they say, Daddy, who's gay and who's not?

526
00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 1: You haven't seen that he's lying. It's this really toxic

527
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:04,240
Speaker 1: thing where the girls ask you, Daddy, tell me who's gay?

528
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 1: And then you say, oh, John Travolta, I mean look

529
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 1: at the Yeah. Well, and it's tough because you don't

530
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 1: even want it anymore, but you just like created this

531
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 1: persona that now people expect it from you. I think,

532
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 1: I know, I kind of like this weird alt Hugh Hefner,

533
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 1: where like the eight girls are always asking me why

534
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 1: ironically funny questions and you know, kind of jumping up

535
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 1: and down on a bed and being like Daddy Daddy,

536
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:38,720
Speaker 1: who's gay? Yeah? No, I have like an ironic Playboy house,

537
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 1: like a whole mansion with all the all these girls

538
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 1: are like, yeah, all comedy it girls, each one of them,

539
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 1: you know, one of the you know, they kind of

540
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 1: are wearing ironic outfits. And they had their wearing like

541
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:58,360
Speaker 1: a little T shirt that says like fart on it, um,

542
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 1: and instead of Playboy ears, they have just like really

543
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:08,399
Speaker 1: large moose antlers. Yeah they say the our word. Yeah,

544
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 1: they say the our word. And then you have these

545
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 1: you have these parties like Playboy Mansion, don't Yeah, you

546
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 1: have You're pretty principled about that kind of but you

547
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 1: kick them out if they don't say it. Yes, And

548
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 1: then you have these ironic Playboy Mansion parties that are

549
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 1: all kind of it's like Howard Stern and um, you know,

550
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 1: Jimmy Kimmel and who yes there, Oh, I thought you said.

551
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 1: Anna the Armus girl. She's one of the eight girls

552
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 1: with the moose. Here's that that you surround yourself with. Yeah.

553
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 1: She broke up with Ben Affleck to join the Antler squad. Um,

554
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 1: do you guys want to do something crazy? I have

555
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:58,399
Speaker 1: like one more of these stupid questions. Oh sorry, it's

556
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 1: insane to be like, like I could have easily just

557
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 1: been like we're just gonna move on because you're like

558
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:12,319
Speaker 1: doing the natural thing. This is conservative. I love to

559
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 1: hear it. Well, I just think now it's gonna be

560
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 1: so weird when I say it, and like it like

561
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 1: makes sense when you're sort of come on, Sam, but

562
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 1: like we were doing them all in like a line,

563
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 1: and like it makes sense sort of like now you're

564
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 1: gonna ask a question, it's going to be like, yeah,

565
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,320
Speaker 1: it's gonna be weird and I'm gonna have to reorient

566
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 1: and be like, oh yeah, that's like like yeah, it

567
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 1: was going so naturally and we were flowing so hard.

568
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 1: You were answering those questions, and you kind of sucked

569
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 1: us up right there. I will say, yeah. I just

570
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 1: promise you won't make fun of me after I say it. Okay, okay,

571
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 1: your final question is Michael Barbaro or a bicycle on

572
00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:03,720
Speaker 1: the Tribe Borough Bridge. That's the question. I think that's

573
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:14,439
Speaker 1: the question. No, I mean I'm mad. I just guess say.

574
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 1: You know, Sam and I have had our difference in

575
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 1: this episode, but I really don't like it when you

576
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 1: guys make fun of him. He's actually like a really

577
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 1: good friend of mine, and we've been doing this podcast

578
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 1: together now for a really long time. I mean I

579
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,720
Speaker 1: kind of thought that you'd both come on and be respectful. Jeremy.

580
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 1: I know your reputation. I know that you're surrounded by

581
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 1: all the eight girls ironic course to say slurs um,

582
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 1: but I just thought maybe you know this, would you

583
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:45,919
Speaker 1: know we could have a respectful and fun time. No. Yeah,

584
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,280
Speaker 1: I we didn't know that you guys were good friends,

585
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 1: so that actually changes a lot. I'm sorry, I would

586
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 1: never want to. Yeah, I can vouch for Sam a

587
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 1: good guy. Wow, Sam, how did that make you feel?

588
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,280
Speaker 1: You hear that? It makes me feel so good. George.

589
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 1: You know, I know that whenever we have guests on here,

590
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 1: you're always like the cool, really chill like one, and

591
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 1: I'm sort of like this little brother, like tagging along.

592
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,839
Speaker 1: And for you to like stick up for me in

593
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 1: this way, like publicly, it's like huge. It's so cool.

594
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 1: And I hope that other cool, popular guys out there

595
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 1: know that they can stick up for the little guy. Yeah. Well,

596
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:31,399
Speaker 1: empathy is something I learned when working in tech, and um,

597
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 1: you know, it's something that never leaves you. Umtally so

598
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:43,839
Speaker 1: um we sorry, Yeah, I try cycle on the tricycle

599
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:49,359
Speaker 1: on the Michael Barbaro Bridge Bridge. Yeah. No, totally good

600
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:57,840
Speaker 1: question at all, you guys. Um, you guys brought some

601
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 1: if not a topic then than something that you wanted

602
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 1: to share with us. Oh yeah, is a theory that

603
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 1: flaccid penis is gay and this is Jeremy's theory. That's

604
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:16,360
Speaker 1: Jeremy's theory. Wait, I love this. Wait is this a

605
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 1: real theory? Yeah? Well, I'm sorry, this is the opposite.

606
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 1: That's what he thinks. I think flaccid penis is straight

607
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 1: and straight. Okay, just to be clear, you both agree

608
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 1: about it, or one of you thinks this is a

609
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:43,839
Speaker 1: big way, just basically just in case one of them

610
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 1: is like a problem that's super messed up. Yeah, like

611
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 1: just going to stake out one side so that one

612
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,359
Speaker 1: of us is like not okay. Well, I think maybe

613
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 1: we should just start, you know, with opening statements, so Sam,

614
00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 1: you can choose which one of them goes first. You know,

615
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 1: this decision has been weighing on me all afternoon. I've

616
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:07,399
Speaker 1: been thinking, you know, who among them can share their

617
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 1: case first. You know that the timing. Uh it the

618
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 1: the order can affect the audiences understanding of the argument.

619
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 1: And so if I pick wrong, um, it could mean

620
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 1: that hard penises are gay and soft penises are straight,

621
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 1: or vice versa. I'm gonna go with all right, all right, well,

622
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 1: so we all know. We all know that I mean

623
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 1: hard penises otherwise known as georgia or in academia, it's

624
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:51,439
Speaker 1: otherwise known as a boner um. And that is that's gay.

625
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 1: I'm on the side of that is you know that

626
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 1: I'm on the side of that straight, because a boner

627
00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:04,319
Speaker 1: is straight, very literal, a literal interpretation. That's I think

628
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:08,240
Speaker 1: it's pretty. It's a pretty it's it's called a boner

629
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 1: or erect penis. Those are the two. No using Google

630
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 1: right now, it's cheating, it's called well, it's interesting. You know, um,

631
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 1: you're this whole so far, this argument is very you know,

632
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:30,320
Speaker 1: Webster Dictionary defines erect peniss so a penis. This is

633
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 1: actually a part of my kind of argument, and it's

634
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 1: that do you guys know the penis is the male

635
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 1: genital organ of higher vertebrates, carrying the duct for the

636
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 1: transfer of sperm during copulation. Yeah, you're right that does

637
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:49,360
Speaker 1: sound more straight. Yeah, well, you're bringing reproduction into it.

638
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:53,320
Speaker 1: In humans and most other mammals that consists largely of

639
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 1: erectile tissue and serves also for the elimination of urine.

640
00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:01,879
Speaker 1: I don't know if that helps the elimination of urine totally. Wow,

641
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:07,879
Speaker 1: it's like you're in town, you could say, Jeremy, I'd

642
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 1: love to hear sort of your counter argument. I think

643
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 1: so that was the end of vision. That's how I'd

644
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:19,399
Speaker 1: like to like to close out with that. Okay, okay, yeah,

645
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 1: I think Jatte's argument has has merit. However, I think

646
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 1: that if it's like flaccid, it's like that's kind of

647
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 1: just like the like straight people kind of have that

648
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 1: vibe a lot of the time because they're kind of

649
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:40,479
Speaker 1: like they're like chilling. Yeah, yeah, so you think straight

650
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 1: people are chill and gay people are like is that

651
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:45,840
Speaker 1: what you're is that what you're trying to say, not

652
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 1: what I'm trying to say sounds I don't know about that,

653
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 1: but I was on the other side of that. I

654
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 1: wanted to kind of read you think straight people are

655
00:43:53,320 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 1: chill and gay people are not, well, not hard, but

656
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 1: like like excite, excite or not necessarily any kind of

657
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 1: people are excited, people are laid back on the other

658
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 1: side of that, On the other side, I actually, I

659
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 1: actually think it's like problematic to even think about it

660
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 1: in those terms. And I think that, uh, straight people

661
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 1: and gay people can be all kinds of ways at

662
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 1: any time they want. But you're arguing that flaccid is

663
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 1: straight and direct is gay for the sake of this argument. Yeah,

664
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 1: that is what I'm saying. So basically you're this is

665
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 1: a bit of a cop out to me, and that

666
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:47,959
Speaker 1: you're saying, you know, anyone can be whoever they want.

667
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 1: But I am going through the motions of arguing something

668
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 1: for the sake of this debate. Yeah, I guess. Yeah.

669
00:44:56,320 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 1: Basically I tried to like put in a whole, and

670
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:04,840
Speaker 1: then I put myself in a hole, and now I

671
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:08,799
Speaker 1: don't want to be making this argument. Huh, But here

672
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 1: I am. So you don't you thought you thought you thought, okay,

673
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 1: we're going to respond well to you saying erect is gay,

674
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 1: because of course erect inherently is um the people have

675
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 1: both more positive associations, and so you were trying to

676
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 1: pander to us by saying erect is gay. I guess

677
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:36,240
Speaker 1: I was just hoping that whatever one whoever went first,

678
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:40,400
Speaker 1: would be just like wrong. I thought it was an

679
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 1: unwinnable argument. Yeah, but then I kind of hoping I

680
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 1: gotta knocked it out of the park with my dictionary,

681
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 1: and that I was not expecting you shouldn't you should

682
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 1: bring a dictionary next time. Yeah, Jeremy, I am confused.

683
00:45:56,120 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 1: I guess um in the sense that you know, yes,

684
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 1: you were throwing your friend under the bus, but you

685
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 1: also you knew you were gonna have to speak on

686
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 1: this topic. Yeah, sorry, go ahead. I'm just kind of

687
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 1: confused as to why this um would only affect and

688
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 1: not also you, right. I guess it's lack of foresight

689
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:21,879
Speaker 1: and just I was just kicking the can down the road,

690
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 1: and I was like, maybe I'll think of something smart,

691
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 1: Like it's really like the confidence. I would say, I

692
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 1: would go so far as to talk call it um

693
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:35,399
Speaker 1: toxic male confidence. That you thought that you really thought

694
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:39,800
Speaker 1: that without doing any research, coming completely unprepared, that that

695
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 1: regan would be so bad arguing that erect is straight

696
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 1: and flash it is gay, that all you would have

697
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 1: to do is kind of be like, well, Mike drop. Yeah. Yeah,

698
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 1: then I come in here, and I own you with

699
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 1: my dictionary again. I want to bring up the dictionary.

700
00:46:56,680 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 1: Just yeah, the dictionary bit crushed and both avoid the

701
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 1: topic and you know, added something a new element. Yeah,

702
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:08,880
Speaker 1: I just want to say, you know, it really means

703
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:12,720
Speaker 1: a lot that you came in prepared, have done your research,

704
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 1: and to be honest. At first, I was skeptical of

705
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:19,319
Speaker 1: the argument that direct is straight and flaccid is gay.

706
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 1: I think I like to think of myself as more

707
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:27,360
Speaker 1: of an erect than a flaccid person. But um, I'm convinced. Interesting,

708
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 1: I think I'm now I'm wondering, are you, George the

709
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:40,399
Speaker 1: erect and I'm the flaccid? Well we're both gay, right,

710
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 1: So that throws a wrench and the idea that one

711
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 1: of us is one and one is the other when

712
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 1: the argument of this debate is whether one is gay

713
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:56,319
Speaker 1: and one is straight both erect, huh. I guess I'm

714
00:47:56,360 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 1: just trying to change the game a little and make it.

715
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 1: Maybe let's give them a second chance and have them

716
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 1: argue which one of us is erect and which one

717
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 1: of us is flaccid. Okay, I want to give Jeremy

718
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 1: a second chance, and in fact, Jeremy, you can go

719
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 1: first now and you can choose which perfect which side

720
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 1: you're arguing for. So you have to choose which one

721
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 1: is salmon, which one is me? Uh huh cool cool,

722
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:25,799
Speaker 1: And I would have to say, um, let's see. Oh.

723
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 1: Now he's trying to use the dictionary. Oh, oh my god.

724
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:43,400
Speaker 1: He's searching, literally googling flacid Sam Taggert hoping something comes up. Uh.

725
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 1: Oh no, he's not finding anything. Oh my god, he

726
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:54,320
Speaker 1: can't even use Google. Oh my god, email real quick, no,

727
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 1: oh god. For the listeners at home, you should know

728
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 1: that both Jeremy and Rajotte's screens are lighting up on

729
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:05,759
Speaker 1: their glasses. They are frantically searching the screen. I don't

730
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:11,719
Speaker 1: know what they actually they look like they're East Sports like,

731
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 1: and I actually don't know what the end goal. I

732
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 1: think maybe they're missing the point um, which sort of

733
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:23,320
Speaker 1: is to talk on the podcast, and they're sort of

734
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:27,319
Speaker 1: getting lost in this searching on the screen type of No. Okay, well,

735
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:31,280
Speaker 1: so here's what happened. So I just got an email

736
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:34,880
Speaker 1: from Jeremy. No. I got an email from Jeremy, and

737
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 1: it says, hey, are you more flaccid or erect? No? Yeah, Yeah,

738
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 1: I got an email from Jeremy that says, hey, are

739
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 1: you more flaccid or erect? Oh no, I just like

740
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 1: it's confusing to me because we are judging this debate,

741
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 1: so like we're not going to give you the answer. Yeah,

742
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 1: that's good. That No, totally, that makes sense. Sam, don't

743
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 1: check your email, by the way. I oh no, did

744
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:06,800
Speaker 1: you get one to Sam? I got one too. I

745
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:10,880
Speaker 1: mean his polite start. Yeah, well, should we both reply

746
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 1: and then see what what what comes out of that? Um? Sure, okay,

747
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:24,359
Speaker 1: Oh wait, I just got an email from that. Yeah,

748
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:27,799
Speaker 1: I got that's like a bibliography. So Jatte to sent

749
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:30,440
Speaker 1: us a diagram, a medical diagram of a flacc of

750
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:33,239
Speaker 1: penis and a direct penis. It looks like Rigatte at

751
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 1: least was honest enough to send it to all three

752
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 1: of the rest of us. Yeah, it was, so, I

753
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 1: do want to say, so far in this part of

754
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 1: the debate, I still think Rigatte is winning because he

755
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 1: wasn't trying to secretive. Yeah, I mean it was more

756
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:50,799
Speaker 1: like hard facts. It's like hard facts. He's coming at

757
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 1: it from a science perspective, and he believed science. No, No,

758
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:58,840
Speaker 1: I'm going to reply to Jeremy, Right, I replied, already

759
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 1: this are you're refreshing the page over to me? All right,

760
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:14,439
Speaker 1: So I think that George is more flaccid, and since

761
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 1: Sam is more the erect, more of the boner. Yeah, interesting,

762
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 1: more of the boner. Kind of want to that is

763
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:28,840
Speaker 1: there any reasoning behind it or well, I have some

764
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:32,400
Speaker 1: evidence that maybe it's not like I can't use but

765
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 1: I have a I have a source that did tell

766
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:40,840
Speaker 1: me that George flat is flaccid, and and did do

767
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 1: you have a source that told you Sam is erect? No?

768
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:48,839
Speaker 1: So you're just sort of making up information because you're

769
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:53,919
Speaker 1: not even getting sources for all of it. I think

770
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:58,919
Speaker 1: I read it on Vulture. Well, so, I mean, god,

771
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 1: I try to get that about the internet. I did

772
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 1: give an interview with Vulture where I said I was flaccid. Yeah. Um,

773
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:09,400
Speaker 1: you know, I was trying to do this kind of

774
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 1: very high minded bit, but it actually came across. You know,

775
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:14,799
Speaker 1: when you read it, you don't get my tone. I'm

776
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:19,359
Speaker 1: a very matter of factly saying I am flaccid. Yeah. Yeah,

777
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to imagine like how the tone could well.

778
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:26,840
Speaker 1: I was doing a little dance that I was like

779
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:33,319
Speaker 1: I'm flaccid. But it didn't. It was just it does help. Yeah. Yeah,

780
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 1: because when you said that in the interview, like I

781
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 1: was sort of imagining the Ellen cover and it's like, Yep,

782
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:45,840
Speaker 1: I'm flaccid. I thought it was like like sort of

783
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:50,359
Speaker 1: a big deal. Right when I was on the cover

784
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 1: of it was the only time Vulture ever had a

785
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 1: physical issue. They actually sent a magazine to everyone in

786
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 1: the country and it was Vulture magazine and it was

787
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 1: photo me on the cover and it said Yep, I'm flacid.

788
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:04,840
Speaker 1: And then in the little sidebar it was like plus

789
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:10,799
Speaker 1: Rachel Senate Rising you know that said I did read

790
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 1: a pretty convincing piece by Seth Simons after that that

791
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:18,479
Speaker 1: like was more of an in depth investigation and whether

792
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 1: you're flaccid. There's some like pretty interesting points of the

793
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:26,399
Speaker 1: idea that George's heart not flacid. Well, Seth, Yeah, Seth

794
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:31,840
Speaker 1: has always said he thinks I'm hard. Yeah, and he

795
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, he did do the work. He

796
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:36,360
Speaker 1: interviewed a lot of people, Um, he met polar like

797
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:40,800
Speaker 1: had a lot to say about right. I was like,

798
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:42,760
Speaker 1: I don't know why she would know. Yeah, that seemed

799
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 1: weird to me because I've never met her, not any

800
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 1: rebuttal I I have a lot to say. I think

801
00:53:55,640 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 1: there's merit to Jeremy's uh uh Jeremy's viewpoint. But um,

802
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 1: I think both of you guys have a little bulge.

803
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:16,279
Speaker 1: H that's what I think. So placid, but well, a

804
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 1: little a little bulge, like a little we're both like

805
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 1: half Yeah, you think we're both half erect that and

806
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 1: that's you guys. I think we can all agree that

807
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:36,319
Speaker 1: you guys come together at the bulge, at a little

808
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:41,319
Speaker 1: half erection. That's the that's where you guys come together. Man,

809
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 1: I thought it would be it would be nice to

810
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 1: see you fail. And now and now it's uncomfortable. He

811
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:51,840
Speaker 1: still don't get you still have never seen we fail?

812
00:54:57,719 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 1: Still fail? See if we fail? Wow, Sam, how how

813
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:09,240
Speaker 1: would you say? This is? Like? What are your thoughts?

814
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 1: I am so curious as to what the critical and

815
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:18,360
Speaker 1: audience reception of this particular episode will be. I was

816
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:21,879
Speaker 1: always thinking about the numbers. I'm a numbers guy. Data.

817
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 1: That's pretty, that's pretty. That's past you. No, no, no,

818
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:36,360
Speaker 1: I am still this is this is where we this

819
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 1: is where we differ because I'm always just crunching the

820
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 1: numbers and trying to figure out who's bon past that section.

821
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:47,400
Speaker 1: So Jeremy, you're you want to move past the Boner

822
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:51,759
Speaker 1: Versus classes, and I do think we were. You know,

823
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 1: I'm almost team I hate to say it, but I'm

824
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:56,440
Speaker 1: almost team Jeremy on this one. I felt as though

825
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:59,799
Speaker 1: we had sort of moved on. It was and here

826
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 1: we again. There was sort of a natural break, and

827
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:05,359
Speaker 1: I was so ready to go back into Boner Versus.

828
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 1: Is like, the episode was going well until that point

829
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 1: and then it went that. It went south, so it

830
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 1: was erect and then it got flaccid. Would say, we

831
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:21,920
Speaker 1: go So it's kind of I disagree with that because

832
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:28,040
Speaker 1: that implies the flaccid is bad. Well, is it or not?

833
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 1: I don't think it is. You're kind of like you

834
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 1: just think FLASCT interact are equally good. Yeah, they're just different.

835
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:40,920
Speaker 1: I think they're for different times. Yeah. No, if you

836
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 1: were erect all the time, it would be horrible, and

837
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 1: if you were flaccid all the time, it would be horrible. Okay,

838
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 1: it might be nice. We haven't tried either of those options.

839
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm currently sometimes sometimes flast and I'm certainly

840
00:56:56,120 --> 00:57:02,319
Speaker 1: not like over the Moon happy yea, but the other

841
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 1: that's that's what I think. Damn. Um, Well, do we

842
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 1: think we got to the bottom? I don't know. I mean,

843
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 1: so you're Sam your team Jeremy. Uh in the sense

844
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 1: that I felt like the we had moved on, yes,

845
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 1: well no, now we've moved on from debating whether we've

846
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 1: moved on, Well, I don't believe that, because the debate

847
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:44,040
Speaker 1: rages on. Should we have opening arguments? So Sam and

848
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:46,120
Speaker 1: I are going to now debate on whether we've moved

849
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:50,200
Speaker 1: on from the from the bona versus flat. Wait? Wait,

850
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 1: I want to go back. I want George. Someone hasn't

851
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:58,440
Speaker 1: moved on, George. I want to go back a little, George.

852
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 1: How do you feel a out everything going on right now? Listen?

853
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 1: If you'd asked me before this what's good and what's bad?

854
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 1: I would have said erect is good, flacid is bad.

855
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:14,400
Speaker 1: But the combination of Rigattes scientific inquiry, Jeremy's more social

856
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:19,440
Speaker 1: sciences survey based work, and then both of them together

857
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:25,400
Speaker 1: doing the um uh, I think they really brought together

858
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 1: the three pillars, which is tech, academia, and entertainment and

859
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 1: all of that together has made me completely rethink from

860
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 1: the bottom up my entire thoughts on erect versus flacid

861
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:43,880
Speaker 1: to the point where at this point I'm thinking like,

862
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:48,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try doing activities with the opposite thing that

863
00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:50,920
Speaker 1: I normally do. So I'll try sex with a flacid

864
00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 1: penis and then running errands with a fully erect one

865
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:57,960
Speaker 1: to see if maybe switching things up will rewire my

866
00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:02,120
Speaker 1: brain in a certain way. What do you think? I mean,

867
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 1: I think that's a really commendable and I say good

868
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 1: luck on that journey. I can't wait for you to

869
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 1: report back. Next time I take one of my walks,

870
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:12,200
Speaker 1: I will be fully erect and thinking about the similarities

871
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 1: between tech and academia. I mean, I mean having sex

872
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:30,360
Speaker 1: is an errand oh ship classic surrounded by all Right,

873
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:33,040
Speaker 1: I guess we have to do this again. The girls

874
00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:41,800
Speaker 1: are like Daddy, who's gay? Oh my god? Um? Should

875
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 1: we end this episode? Yeah? Yeah, we have to, in fact,

876
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:51,360
Speaker 1: because our next guest is um waiting to come on. Um. Well, guys,

877
00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 1: this has been an experienced UM. I think you have

878
00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:59,120
Speaker 1: pushed the limits of what this podcast can be, and

879
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:03,640
Speaker 1: to that, I say hats off to you. Agreed push

880
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:06,880
Speaker 1: push the limits, but also made it even more limited.

881
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:12,800
Speaker 1: In some ways. Yeah, thank you so much. Yeah, I

882
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:17,040
Speaker 1: I feel like I don't know who I am anymore,

883
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:20,280
Speaker 1: but I think that can be powerful. But I also

884
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 1: have never felt more secure in my identity exactly. That's awesome, awesome.

885
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:28,000
Speaker 1: Our final segment is called shout Out. I forgot we

886
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:32,440
Speaker 1: had a final segment. This is something tells me it

887
01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 1: might take a very long time. In this segment, this

888
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 1: is back before our podcast became all about being conceptual

889
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:42,919
Speaker 1: and it was simply about analyzing straight culture. We thought

890
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:44,840
Speaker 1: the shout out, the radio shout out, think of a

891
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:47,800
Speaker 1: TRL shout out, think of a Z one shoutout, was

892
01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:49,920
Speaker 1: one of the pillars of straight culture. So we thought

893
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:52,920
Speaker 1: we would end each episode with a shout out, UM

894
01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:56,560
Speaker 1: to your boys back home, Sam, do you have one? Uh?

895
01:00:56,760 --> 01:01:02,560
Speaker 1: Yeah I do? UM whenever, Okay, what's up, listeners. Um,

896
01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:04,280
Speaker 1: I just want to give a huge shout out to

897
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:09,160
Speaker 1: the RuPaul's Drag Race Reunion episode. That was the longest

898
01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:12,720
Speaker 1: episode of television I have ever watched. It was so

899
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 1: so boring and undynamic, and I couldn't care less. It

900
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:19,200
Speaker 1: was a full two hours of my life wasted. I

901
01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:20,800
Speaker 1: think it was maybe only an hour and a half

902
01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:24,000
Speaker 1: except that the thing that I recorded it on kept

903
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:26,760
Speaker 1: messing up, so I had to keep rewinding and fast forwarding,

904
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:29,760
Speaker 1: and so it took a cool two hours. I did

905
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:34,400
Speaker 1: not finish it because I had to record this podcast today,

906
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:38,280
Speaker 1: and in many ways that saved me. So whatever happened

907
01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:40,240
Speaker 1: in the last ten minutes of RuPaul's Drag Race reunion,

908
01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:44,360
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I ben it was boring. Who god,

909
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:47,080
Speaker 1: what a what a truly one eight in terms of

910
01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:51,720
Speaker 1: tone and topics. Yeah, to go from fully conceptual to

911
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:55,560
Speaker 1: talking about RuPaul's Drag Race. And can I say, I

912
01:01:56,760 --> 01:01:59,480
Speaker 1: you know, I could feel us hiding our homosexuality while

913
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:02,160
Speaker 1: we had these two guys on here, and so I said,

914
01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:06,040
Speaker 1: you know what, we are just gay guys still, And

915
01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:11,280
Speaker 1: just because we have these hilarious comedians on here doesn't

916
01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:16,360
Speaker 1: mean we aren't still gay guys that listen to Lady

917
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:20,480
Speaker 1: Gaga and watch fucking drag Race. So get over it.

918
01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:23,520
Speaker 1: We have a different favor of reference than you. That's fine.

919
01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:28,880
Speaker 1: That wow, So you actually are doing activism. This is activism. Interesting.

920
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:38,280
Speaker 1: He's pretty I feel like Jeremy's pretty anti that. No.

921
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:41,640
Speaker 1: I this whole time, I was like, look, we got

922
01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:45,680
Speaker 1: to talk about art, art pop and even the way

923
01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:53,000
Speaker 1: you said that Saturday it was hateful. So sorry. And

924
01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:57,200
Speaker 1: I like when Lady Gaga were the meat dress. Oh

925
01:02:57,320 --> 01:03:02,800
Speaker 1: my god, yeah, Jeremy, we all did. Yeah, Jeremy, and

926
01:03:04,080 --> 01:03:06,840
Speaker 1: I just uh, I love all the stuff you guys

927
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:10,520
Speaker 1: love too. Yeah. Yeah, well you're gay about that? Yeah,

928
01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:19,920
Speaker 1: because I'm gay? Wow. Well congratulations, Jeremy. You're kind of

929
01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:21,800
Speaker 1: like that guy from the Bachelor that just came out

930
01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:23,920
Speaker 1: and was getting his own reality show. You're gonna get

931
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:26,960
Speaker 1: canceled now, you're gonna Yeah, now that you're gay, you're

932
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:29,560
Speaker 1: definitely gonna get canceled. They're gonna look at you a

933
01:03:29,560 --> 01:03:33,600
Speaker 1: little bit closer. Yeah, you think it would make you

934
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:38,000
Speaker 1: less cancelable, but actually people really investigate. Now. Um, okay,

935
01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:42,360
Speaker 1: I guess I'll go please. Um what's up, listeners. I

936
01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:46,280
Speaker 1: want to give a quick shout out to the woman

937
01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:50,720
Speaker 1: in the book I'm reading. He's this Hungarian woman and

938
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:53,680
Speaker 1: has a maid, and I think that's so fucking cool

939
01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:56,200
Speaker 1: because she's because the maid keeps being mean to her,

940
01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:58,440
Speaker 1: but she keeps wanting to befriend the maid because she

941
01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:02,840
Speaker 1: has a class into Curtis and I I think it's

942
01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:05,360
Speaker 1: It's it's so complex to both haven't made and want

943
01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:08,080
Speaker 1: to be friends with her, even though she's constantly rude

944
01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:10,200
Speaker 1: to you, and I hope to one day haven't made

945
01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:12,480
Speaker 1: that constantly is rude to me, but I keep wanting

946
01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:17,760
Speaker 1: to get friends with her. Whoo who um, So, Jeremy,

947
01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:23,160
Speaker 1: do you want to go or yeah? Oh yeah, I'll

948
01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:26,720
Speaker 1: do one too. I got a shout out, Hey, I

949
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:29,920
Speaker 1: just want to give a shout out to Havy Givinson.

950
01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:38,240
Speaker 1: She made Rookie Meg, she was on TV. She organized

951
01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:41,880
Speaker 1: a get Well Soon card drive for Malala. Oh my god,

952
01:04:41,960 --> 01:04:47,000
Speaker 1: you're reading Google again doing fourteen year old Pakistani girl

953
01:04:47,040 --> 01:05:01,960
Speaker 1: who's campaigning for education. Both hear me, Tavvy Gevinson and Malala.

954
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:07,280
Speaker 1: You guys inspire me every day, and I think all

955
01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:12,080
Speaker 1: women should have access to high quality education. Ragette, go on,

956
01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:17,880
Speaker 1: all right, hey, what's up, listeners? I just wanted to

957
01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:22,240
Speaker 1: give a quick shout out to Malala um who was

958
01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:25,200
Speaker 1: at one of Jeremy's parties. Who and she was saying

959
01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:32,480
Speaker 1: the R word a lot there. I think you go off, Queen.

960
01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:37,200
Speaker 1: You can say you're allowed to say the all right, um,

961
01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:41,880
Speaker 1: but you're not allowed to say go off. Queen ragette whatever,

962
01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:47,520
Speaker 1: queen that's maybe that's um god, it's like as soon

963
01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:50,240
Speaker 1: as Jeremy comes out, you immediately try to say, go off,

964
01:05:51,840 --> 01:05:55,960
Speaker 1: just let him have this one thing. Sorry, sorry Jeremy

965
01:05:56,080 --> 01:06:01,360
Speaker 1: s alright, Okay, well well what do we That's that's

966
01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:08,560
Speaker 1: an episode in the can for sure, I guess. I

967
01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:11,640
Speaker 1: My final thought is like, we came in here and

968
01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:16,200
Speaker 1: really I think we like we had a responsibility as

969
01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:23,360
Speaker 1: the straight to like not really like mess up the

970
01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:26,600
Speaker 1: vibe of and I think we did mess up the

971
01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:31,880
Speaker 1: We messed it up pretty bad. Yeah, And so so

972
01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:40,919
Speaker 1: we offer we're about to apologize. Sorry. Sorry that Yeah,

973
01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:43,960
Speaker 1: so we're sorry. We're sorry to the listener, We're sorry

974
01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:47,560
Speaker 1: to all the girls that we talked about. I just

975
01:06:47,680 --> 01:06:50,520
Speaker 1: want to Yeah, I do want to apologize all IT girls.

976
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:53,960
Speaker 1: I want to give a huge apology to the girls.

977
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:57,560
Speaker 1: If you're a girl listening to this, I'm really really sorry.

978
01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:01,840
Speaker 1: Will do better, and also get in touch with Jeremy.

979
01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:05,120
Speaker 1: He's looking for more always. Yeah, he's all vaxed up

980
01:07:05,120 --> 01:07:07,760
Speaker 1: and ready for more IT girls. Yeah, get your elk

981
01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:10,560
Speaker 1: years on. Yeah, he's vexed up, gay and ready for

982
01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:15,320
Speaker 1: more IT girls. Yeah. Jeremy is. Jeremy is gay and

983
01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:19,640
Speaker 1: surrounded by eight girls in his ironic comedy Castle, and

984
01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:22,200
Speaker 1: he wants to know who is gay or and who

985
01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:27,800
Speaker 1: is not? Daddy who's gay? And Jeremy says, actually, wow,

986
01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:31,880
Speaker 1: Well let's end it there. Guys, thanks for doing the

987
01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:35,520
Speaker 1: pod and have an incredible future.