Speaker 1: Wine Down with Janna Kramer and I Heart Radio podcast.
Speaker 1: We're having a jam party in here right now. Um,
Speaker 1: I'm playing the Forum September one in l A. And
Speaker 1: I just broke the news to Easton that I'm not
Speaker 1: singing his favorite song, so because I was like, I
Speaker 1: just don't think my guys even know the song. It's
Speaker 1: called Goodbye California, and Easton and I just like totally
Speaker 1: jammed out to it and sang it. The professional musicians
Speaker 1: they have a weekend a half. You can tell them
Speaker 1: to learn it. This is their job. We just sang
Speaker 1: it together though. I me, Mason, I like totally just
Speaker 1: sang it together. I want to see the front row
Speaker 1: singing along to that. I like, you tell the Chattoos
Speaker 1: driving in the country where the daffads like him A
Speaker 1: sang it sanks to hat playing country five Chicken is
Speaker 1: a beautiful thing? Is hug and hold you? Hello Heve
Speaker 1: and so good bye California. Yeah, September one, ladies, you
Speaker 1: can see that happen is a better husband you than me?
Speaker 1: All the words? Yeah, I don't even think you would
Speaker 1: know one lyric to that. I don't know, probably not
Speaker 1: not that one, not that one. I don't even think
Speaker 1: I've heard you performed that one. I don't think I've
Speaker 1: ever performed that one yet. But we've got a studio full.
Speaker 1: I'm so excited. Um coming back for her grand return.
Speaker 1: Does she have the ring or not? Formerly known as
Speaker 1: Sarah gret Sky. We've obviously got market Easton and Jen
Speaker 1: and then my husband is back as well. Um, so Jen.
Speaker 1: We dropped Jolie off at preschool, who cried. Michael would
Speaker 1: not let go of her. I was like, let's go.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, Julie, you're let me take you
Speaker 1: into the class. Let me see you down. Let's play
Speaker 1: Plato and the teachers. No other parents are in there.
Speaker 1: All the parents have already left. It's just me like
Speaker 1: sitting at table. Kids are playing Plato. Teachers are like, dude,
Speaker 1: like get out of here, get out. Did you have
Speaker 1: any idea that you were going to react that way?
Speaker 1: A little yes, a little bit because when my brother,
Speaker 1: because there's fortune your difference between me and my brother,
Speaker 1: and so I remember dropping him off at preschool, and
Speaker 1: I remember giving my mom crap back in the day
Speaker 1: because she'd be like crying when she left. Mom, I
Speaker 1: was not a big deal, and then the first time
Speaker 1: I dropped him off by myself and he called me
Speaker 1: me me when I was a kid. He said, He's like,
Speaker 1: arms me me. I was like, oh my god, I was.
Speaker 1: I just started like bawling. I was like, I have
Speaker 1: to leave. I felt like the worst person in the
Speaker 1: world leaving him crying. Yeah, And I thought I was
Speaker 1: going to be the one crying. And this time Mike
Speaker 1: literally would not like. I was like, Michael, we have
Speaker 1: to go. And then so she starts crying because he's
Speaker 1: like clinging onto her, and I was like, let go
Speaker 1: of her, like we have your making her upset. She's
Speaker 1: such a daddy's girl now. So that's why I was
Speaker 1: easier for Jenna to leave, because she just loves her
Speaker 1: some daddy. Um okay, but that's late. Yeah, when Mama's boy,
Speaker 1: my little baby bull came over, came over, it's going
Speaker 1: to be cuddle movie. I just wanted. All they want
Speaker 1: to do is cuddle with you. Even the flight attendants
Speaker 1: on the plane last night when I'm coming back from
Speaker 1: out of town, they were Jane was in the bat
Speaker 1: We're talking about kids, and they recognized Janna and they
Speaker 1: both had boys, and Jane's in bathroom, like it was
Speaker 1: your daughter Daddy's girls, Like she's become one recently, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and they're like, oh, just wait till you have that boy.
Speaker 1: He's going to be all over her. I was like,
Speaker 1: I know, I keep hearing that, So your time will come.
Speaker 1: Don't worry, honey. I mean she's still a mom, like
Speaker 1: when she's sick, when she like you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like that's when she's like mama. But she's definitely like
Speaker 1: switched gears to Michael, which is great because we're gonna
Speaker 1: need that when the baby comes toosolutely. It's a good transition. Yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure, I know what else would you guys? But
Speaker 1: up too, Well, we went out of town for a
Speaker 1: little project way to go back to Nashville take care
Speaker 1: of a few things. Um so yeah, we did that
Speaker 1: and then we got back late last We're literally there
Speaker 1: for twenty four hours. Yeah, it was a crazy whirlwind
Speaker 1: twenty four hours. So it was it was nuts, but
Speaker 1: it was great. Like I'm excited to like talk about that.
Speaker 1: We can't right now, but we're very excited to share
Speaker 1: in the future. But I know, but it was funny.
Speaker 1: Michael made fun of me so bad yesterday in the airport.
Speaker 1: Will we just say this? So, so we're going home
Speaker 1: this weekend to um his dad's retirement. It's a surprise party.
Speaker 1: So we're flying to Virginia on Thursday, like having this
Speaker 1: whole thing. So his mom texted us in a group
Speaker 1: chat and was like, what do you guys want Thursday
Speaker 1: night for dinner? Fohitos or tacos. I hate fahitas, which
Speaker 1: is news to me, not news. Never order him never
Speaker 1: or you never verbally said I hate I have, but
Speaker 1: he doesn't. He has selective hearing. So I was like, taca,
Speaker 1: he goes fahitas and I'm like what you know? She
Speaker 1: said tacos. I was like no, and I was like,
Speaker 1: how could he say that? You know? So I'm thinking,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking she's gonna side with me, and you know,
Speaker 1: I'm a mom's boy. I'm like, it's my mama asking
Speaker 1: and she's like, sorrygnant pregnant lady wins. And he said
Speaker 1: he sends a gift of like, um, something fair, it
Speaker 1: said someone crying. I think it's not fair. And then
Speaker 1: I set a gift back of like this pregnant lady
Speaker 1: waddling saying this isn't fair either. So I win, but
Speaker 1: then you can. Yeah. So we're walking through. Jane is
Speaker 1: trying to convince me that she's told me that she
Speaker 1: doesn't like Bahitas, and I'm like, no, you've never told
Speaker 1: me that. So we're walking through uh Is. When we
Speaker 1: got back to l A No in the National Airport,
Speaker 1: National Airport, we're walking to her flight and Jan Jane
Speaker 1: was that we didn't get much sleep the previous like
Speaker 1: twenty four hours. Jane is a little loopy and slap happy,
Speaker 1: and Eastern gets your blue button ready. Jane is sitting
Speaker 1: there times like he doesn't hate you. I never liked him.
Speaker 1: And as she's saying that, how much I hate Theahita
Speaker 1: like you know me, like I never I've never acting
Speaker 1: ordered them. I freaking hate them like that, just going
Speaker 1: off almost like I'm yelling at like we're having an argument. Almost. Yeah,
Speaker 1: But it was all fun and playful, and this lady
Speaker 1: that works for Southwest comes over out of nowhere and
Speaker 1: comes up and was like Pahita and she comes up
Speaker 1: like Jane. She's like, oh hi, oh my gosh, thank
Speaker 1: you so much. Are you're such a sweetheart? Thinker I
Speaker 1: really okay, And then she walks away and then she's like,
Speaker 1: how dare you I have a question about the feta.
Speaker 1: What don't you like about grilled vegetables or grilled chicken?
Speaker 1: I'm just gross. I think it's disgusting. And then the
Speaker 1: and then the I like, I like one of those
Speaker 1: things called to like flower tortias, but it has to
Speaker 1: have the crunch tortilla involved with it. What do you mean?
Speaker 1: Then the heart, so I would like justice. Okay, so,
Speaker 1: but I've never liked grilled vegetables with the just steak
Speaker 1: and chicken, like, that's just the grossest. I don't understand
Speaker 1: people that gross. Give me a sizzling plotter of like
Speaker 1: sizzling grilled vegetables. No, I could not be hungry at
Speaker 1: and I smell for he is walking past me and
Speaker 1: I'm hungry. That's so I think they're so gross. Either way,
Speaker 1: I won, and we're getting tacos on Thursday, so it's
Speaker 1: Taco Thursday. I win. Pregnant Lady wins. Sorry, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: but this is also fun. So now you know we're
Speaker 1: going home to like the mom territory. You know, it's
Speaker 1: like Mama's boys going to be back home. Sorry you
Speaker 1: last year Pregnant Pregnant your wife, tacos. It's all going
Speaker 1: to be about jolly anyway. They haven't seen him, Sarah,
Speaker 1: do you have the ring? Bab? No, no, not yet.
Speaker 1: But you did do the ultimatum that we've been in
Speaker 1: intense ten days. When was the last time I was
Speaker 1: with you? Yeah? And serious? How did he react? Um?
Speaker 1: This is the thing. He is the nicest guy ever.
Speaker 1: He literally was like so excited for just the He
Speaker 1: was like that was so awesome, Like good for your voice. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I'm like yeah, but we like shoot on you
Speaker 1: for an hour and a half. Yeah, And he was
Speaker 1: like no, I mean he doesn't care. He's heard worse
Speaker 1: things to his face, you know, like I've said worse
Speaker 1: than her thing. No, he but he got the message.
Speaker 1: So before, like Janna said, before I came out, I
Speaker 1: couldn't wait. I was like yeah, right, And so I
Speaker 1: just was like listen, not a big deal. It wasn't scary,
Speaker 1: it wasn't intense. I was like, look, I love you, you
Speaker 1: you love me. I want I want to marry you.
Speaker 1: And if you don't want to marry me, that's totally fine,
Speaker 1: but tell me. And if if you do want to
Speaker 1: marry me, I need a ring. Okay, So are you
Speaker 1: managing your expectations so that you don't Yeah, because, like
Speaker 1: Janna said, it's been six years, I mean almost, you know,
Speaker 1: what's another couple of months? And like again he's just
Speaker 1: well Michael and asked he he's aware that it's Yeah,
Speaker 1: just Janna was telling me, you know that she he
Speaker 1: was agreed to the year or whatever. And so is
Speaker 1: it the end of two thousand and eighteen or is
Speaker 1: it a year from now? Oh? No, the end of
Speaker 1: two thousand wedding? Yeah. And even though I was like,
Speaker 1: Janna is like, no, the sumber thirty, like you wait
Speaker 1: it out. You cannot say one more thing? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: And I agreed when Jane said that to me, I
Speaker 1: was like, you cannot make a joke. You cannot say
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Speaker 1: sororities today. I can't worry. I am oh boy, Sarah,
Speaker 1: you are an authroity. I was which one alpha kay Omega, Michael,
Speaker 1: were you I mean football is a fraternity? No, I
Speaker 1: mean it is in college athletics. Your team is your
Speaker 1: own fraternity. I mean I got a long had plenty
Speaker 1: of guys that were framed. So no athlete was allowed
Speaker 1: to be in a fraternity. Nots not that they weren't allowed.
Speaker 1: You don't have time for any of that with athletic,
Speaker 1: whether it's all caesar and so you have no time
Speaker 1: for where any of your girlfriends and soorities. Yes, my
Speaker 1: college girlfriend was in Oh she was remember I want
Speaker 1: to talk about her anyways. Um, So I didn't hear
Speaker 1: What did you say about sororities? I just don't. I
Speaker 1: just don't get it, Like, I just don't. I don't
Speaker 1: feel like the girls are being honest with their like everybody. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then it's I just don't get that, Like I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: I don't believe that it's all like unicorns and rainbows
Speaker 1: and skulls. I don't know. I it wasn't my goal
Speaker 1: when I went to college to join authority. It just
Speaker 1: was not me. It was not something I was interested in.
Speaker 1: My mom was in authority, um, and I remember talking
Speaker 1: with her about it and She was like, do you
Speaker 1: want to join authority? And it was like, I don't
Speaker 1: think so It's not me and I am a girl's girl.
Speaker 1: I have tons upfront women who are friends. I support them.
Speaker 1: I love all of my girlfriends, and I just I
Speaker 1: didn't have time. I really didn't have time. I only
Speaker 1: because I grew up in Texas like everyone and you know,
Speaker 1: everyone does that, but I mostly did it because I
Speaker 1: went to Arizona State and I didn't know anyone, and
Speaker 1: so I was like, what am I gonna do. I'm
Speaker 1: either going to cry my first year or I'm gonna,
Speaker 1: like who knows, end up with a weird crop. So
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm just gonna do it, and if
Speaker 1: it goes well, it goes well. You can always drop whatever.
Speaker 1: And how did you get in there? Like what was
Speaker 1: your rush thing? Because that, to me is like dangerous.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't want Jolie like doing like these crazy rush stuff.
Speaker 1: I mean that's why that's I mean, kids die from that.
Speaker 1: They're like, it's like, I don't want I think guys
Speaker 1: are way more intense. I mean I didn't get hated
Speaker 1: by the time I went. I mean they're serious, you know,
Speaker 1: they couldn't haze. I didn't get hated at all, you know,
Speaker 1: so there was no bab break. They're cutting down on that.
Speaker 1: I was so media I mean, I mean, you're right,
Speaker 1: like guys have died, you know, being drinking, drinking themselves
Speaker 1: to death, Like nothing like that ever happened. I mean
Speaker 1: they were Arizona State really cracked out. I would not
Speaker 1: say our greek life was booming. I mean, my sister
Speaker 1: went to Alabama. Now that is some greek life. Oh
Speaker 1: will you explain that a little more? What is greek life?
Speaker 1: So I think, oh my god, I don't even know
Speaker 1: the stats, but like let's say at a s U,
Speaker 1: I'd say thirty of the campus were like involved in
Speaker 1: greek life. So that means guys were in fraternity's, girls
Speaker 1: were in sororities that whole. Did you guys have a
Speaker 1: Greek crow? We the guys did, but it got like
Speaker 1: demolished a year later, and like we didn't have Like
Speaker 1: I didn't live in a house. I did not live
Speaker 1: in the sorority house. Like I didn't do any of that. Now,
Speaker 1: my sister, i'd say, at Alabama, I mean, like we're
Speaker 1: gonna get a lot of hate mail. But I'd say
Speaker 1: maybe like eighty percent. I mean I think everyone on
Speaker 1: that camp it yeah, I mean there was like a
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty girls in my sorority. I think there
Speaker 1: was like three her Okay, so that's a completely different experience.
Speaker 1: But I mean I have to agree with I forget
Speaker 1: who said it, but they were like, it's just like
Speaker 1: a last name. Like, yeah, I have four sisters in general,
Speaker 1: and we fight like cats and dogs. But at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, whatever, you know. But that's kind
Speaker 1: of how sorority was. Was my friends with everyone. No
Speaker 1: did I hate anyone towards the end, but thank you
Speaker 1: for being honest. Oh my god. No, I mean, but
Speaker 1: that's the thing. Like my the girls I met the
Speaker 1: first ten days are still I have two of them
Speaker 1: still my best friends, best friends. So there's that. But
Speaker 1: no do I talk to have no, I know a
Speaker 1: big thing too. Like my school, James Madison, our greek
Speaker 1: life wasn't huge. It was probably under of the school
Speaker 1: was a part of that sorority of fraternity. But from
Speaker 1: the outside looking in, I do understand that it is
Speaker 1: a you know, it is a camaraderie thing where it's
Speaker 1: just like if you meet someone randomly and you figure
Speaker 1: out they went to a s U instantly. It's something
Speaker 1: where if you meet someone that went to that was
Speaker 1: in Cappa Alpha fraternity, you're like, oh, you're in KA
Speaker 1: like I wasn't like, and immediately there's some kind of
Speaker 1: networking there. Especially in the professional world. I hear a
Speaker 1: lot about that from buddies that were in fraternities that's
Speaker 1: helped them a lot. And even i mean one of
Speaker 1: the girls I lived without here, I lived with her
Speaker 1: for the last five years. She was alf Comega at
Speaker 1: ut So it's just things like that where it But no,
Speaker 1: there is a well I'm glad hazing is kind of
Speaker 1: is it done done? I mean, it's still there. But
Speaker 1: I know when I was leaving college, that's when things
Speaker 1: really started cracking down. That was two thousand nine. So
Speaker 1: ever since then, I'm sure I just got even stricter
Speaker 1: and stricter because that's when social media really started ramping
Speaker 1: up and there's more exposure on what was going on
Speaker 1: behind closed doors. So I'm sure there's some that is there,
Speaker 1: But I mean, shoot, even in professional athletics, the hazing
Speaker 1: has decreased since when I was in What do you
Speaker 1: mean rookie hazing though they do that. Yeah, yeah, like
Speaker 1: they do like run around with your pee wee out.
Speaker 1: I mean there were things. It would depend you know.
Speaker 1: The worst of it was, you know, a big thing
Speaker 1: on a lot of teams was rookies are taped to
Speaker 1: the goal post. No no, no, not naked like in
Speaker 1: their paths or whatever. It maybe cold water dumped on
Speaker 1: them or stuff dumped on them. Um. I've seen guys
Speaker 1: like taped up and thrown in the cold tub and
Speaker 1: had um like icy hot rubbed on them or something like.
Speaker 1: That's like the worst. That's like the worst of stuff.
Speaker 1: The more of the fun stuff is rookie haircuts. That's
Speaker 1: back when I had hair you know, I did that.
Speaker 1: You'd have to if you you know, I was in
Speaker 1: Jackson in my rookie year, so you had a storm
Speaker 1: come through and you had to go into the locker
Speaker 1: room for a little bit until it cleared. Rookies get
Speaker 1: up and sing, dance off, go, you know, would be
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. So but still there's still things
Speaker 1: in some professional athletics. There's a kid, you know, guy Miami,
Speaker 1: the head issues with racial a few few old hazing
Speaker 1: that was an issue and so it's out there, but
Speaker 1: I think it's really died down all over the country.
Speaker 1: Which what was your karaoke song? What did I sing? Um?
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Speaker 1: on sororities, especially since after we had the podcast last week,
Speaker 1: we had a sorority outcry. Um, the sisters were running
Speaker 1: away the camaraderie they're banding together. Not all of the
Speaker 1: stories are good, though they're coming together interesting. As I
Speaker 1: read all the emails, will read some on the air,
Speaker 1: but I would say from the hundreds of emails, it
Speaker 1: was very split. As a sorority girl. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: being truthful because I loved every minute of it. They
Speaker 1: were very split people who just didn't like their experience
Speaker 1: at all. Sorry we're trying. Sorry eating cookies at the
Speaker 1: same time. So I would say half loved it, loved it,
Speaker 1: of course it's not perfect, but loved it. The other
Speaker 1: half was divided between people who did it and didn't
Speaker 1: like it, or I thought it was so like Janna
Speaker 1: that they didn't even want to do it. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: no desire. But what I sometime have a hater, you know,
Speaker 1: like I love girls, you would have actually thrived. No,
Speaker 1: I would not have. Girls are so mean and I
Speaker 1: get I'm so sensitive. I there were some bitches, but
Speaker 1: like you literally it's like you find the ones you
Speaker 1: like and then you're good and you don't even there's
Speaker 1: no issue. I'm just too sensitive and I care too
Speaker 1: much about people, what people think about. I do a
Speaker 1: drink in a girl's face, like I do the same,
Speaker 1: Like I did that for one of my sister I
Speaker 1: was m alpha co Omega and the way the way
Speaker 1: that you guys say it, I was a well but like, no,
Speaker 1: it's true, like even like Toria's like I was kept
Speaker 1: cap it. No, I'm definitely in the middle. I loved it.
Speaker 1: But there were I mean there were girls I physically like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I love Honestly, it's too busy going to see bands.
Speaker 1: I was too busy working. Okay, people like I didn't
Speaker 1: go to college, all right, they have. There was a
Speaker 1: couple of scary seniors and what's weird now twenty years
Speaker 1: later is I still know them. And the scary senior
Speaker 1: is like shocked that she was scary. She's like, what
Speaker 1: do you mean like scary? I'm so nice and I'm like,
Speaker 1: you were so scary, But like I still loved it.
Speaker 1: I mean that's like part of it. I like the
Speaker 1: front parties. I did go to the front parties. I've
Speaker 1: done a few cug stands. In mind, I don't drink.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing I think. I don't drink beer. I've
Speaker 1: never done a sit. I've never drank a full beer.
Speaker 1: I've never been drunk. Like it's just not Michael, please
Speaker 1: do not roll your eyes. I've never been drunk. I've
Speaker 1: never had the spins. I've never thrown up. But there's
Speaker 1: things that you can do in it that are you know,
Speaker 1: like you have a philanthropy, Like there are things that
Speaker 1: like the Bunnies. No, actually actually Alpha Omega was domestic
Speaker 1: violence and we worked. We worked a lot with the
Speaker 1: Phoenix sojourn or Center. But there's things that you can do.
Speaker 1: You could have been president, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like there's things that you can do without having to
Speaker 1: be a black you. But if I wasn't president, I'd
Speaker 1: be mad. That's the thing. If I'm not the top,
Speaker 1: then I'm not going to want to do. That's why
Speaker 1: you would have been good, because you would have wanted
Speaker 1: to win. Like I was the vice president of recruitment.
Speaker 1: It was fun, but like so you did all the hazing,
Speaker 1: got it okay, cool, I also okay, well this is
Speaker 1: like boring me. Let's wait, did you only date frat
Speaker 1: boys of course? Well, well I had a frat boy boyfriend,
Speaker 1: but Ty was not in a frat, so I had
Speaker 1: a you were cheating on time. I had a boyfriend
Speaker 1: like sophomore in junior year when he was in a prop. Okay,
Speaker 1: and then I lied too because I stated athletes. Okay,
Speaker 1: so certainly all you shorty girls are liars. Let's talk
Speaker 1: to Robin. So she's on mine twelve right now. I
Speaker 1: want to hear about her experience. Hey, Robin, hi there,
Speaker 1: how are you? Oh good? I just got a room
Speaker 1: full of sorority listeners right now. We just we just
Speaker 1: want to hear the drama and the love, and I
Speaker 1: want to know the good, bad, the ugly and everything else.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, uh oh boy? How long do you have
Speaker 1: tell me that? Tell me the high? Tell me your
Speaker 1: tell me your number one high and your number one low. Okay,
Speaker 1: My high definitely my experience going to small California school,
Speaker 1: and that was amazing, very easy. I didn't realize I
Speaker 1: was supposed to be stressed about it. Everyone got a house,
Speaker 1: everyone was happy where they were super easy. My bad
Speaker 1: experience is I have a daughter who is currently in
Speaker 1: college and a southern university. I don't want, I don't
Speaker 1: want to name any names. But the rust is attended
Speaker 1: by mom. The rush is attended by mom's. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: a thing. Just generations of sisters terrifying their witches. You
Speaker 1: have rust coaches for at least a year prior to
Speaker 1: rush coached. Stop. So this is where I'm like, ridiculous.
Speaker 1: There's a sorority packet you have to prepare. You can
Speaker 1: go online and order it monogram to different colors with
Speaker 1: the professional photo photos. Why would you let her do this?
Speaker 1: I didn't know it was going to be this bad,
Speaker 1: and everyone else was quote unquote doing it and spreight
Speaker 1: panning hair and makeup. I mean, stop it. This is
Speaker 1: like a insane Okay, then the worst worst parting that
Speaker 1: stuff wasn't the worst part. The worst worst part is
Speaker 1: they go through the whole rust of experience and then
Speaker 1: they have the last days, you know, bid day where
Speaker 1: they get to decide between one or two houses, assuming
Speaker 1: they have that many left, and they bring all the
Speaker 1: girls who are left at this point, a hundred and
Speaker 1: seventy six girls who quit and thirteen and so far
Speaker 1: been cut completely. And as they say, you are going
Speaker 1: to sit on an envelope for an hour while we
Speaker 1: left you about how great story life is. And then
Speaker 1: a crack of five pm, you open your envelope, find
Speaker 1: out which story you got. Some of you might not
Speaker 1: have any that you thought you were gonna have, and
Speaker 1: some of you might have none at all. But either way,
Speaker 1: as soon as you open this, you get to run
Speaker 1: through the middle of campus for thousands of people and
Speaker 1: I'm not joking. TV crews, alumni for Turnity's lying the
Speaker 1: streets come out and watch you run. Even if you
Speaker 1: didn't get a house. The girls are crying they've got nothing.
Speaker 1: They didn't get a house they wanted, or they're beyond thrills.
Speaker 1: They got exactly what they wanted. And those girls are
Speaker 1: you know, the girls that didn't get anything. Off the run,
Speaker 1: the left, the run day Cruel Alabama in the house.
Speaker 1: And then you have to watch your daughter cry and
Speaker 1: run across the field. Oh it's awful. Yeah, my dad
Speaker 1: got with you probably should have gotten but she didn't
Speaker 1: get what she wanted at her top choice, and so
Speaker 1: she was, you know, a complete mass. And so I
Speaker 1: was a complete mass. I'm calling my husband crying, like
Speaker 1: we just can't do This's like this wasn't you resting?
Speaker 1: Remember that? Whatever? How much did it cost? How much
Speaker 1: was the investment to actually get her to that point? Well,
Speaker 1: you mean the flight there, the hotel room, the hair
Speaker 1: and makeup, the clothing, um, a lot. I didn't tell
Speaker 1: my husband how much, but I'm guessing probably like a
Speaker 1: thousand bucks at Leaf, maybe two thousand, and then you
Speaker 1: have paid for the authority. It was this far more
Speaker 1: sense than it was in my day. I just don't
Speaker 1: understand all that. I'm especially like, what if she didn't run,
Speaker 1: would they, like, you know, shoot her in the back
Speaker 1: with an arrow, like you know, like Indians and cowboys days,
Speaker 1: Like if you just run away, you don't, there's no
Speaker 1: way not to run. Everyone's circles you like, you can't,
Speaker 1: you have to run. That's bully, that's that's I think
Speaker 1: those are bullies. Those girls are bullies. Why would you
Speaker 1: want to be like them? Yeah, the other moms are
Speaker 1: like I literally found myself on the last night alone
Speaker 1: in the bar with my head on the barbing rock
Speaker 1: meat bottom, like the vodka, Oh I just nice night.
Speaker 1: Pull southern woman comes over? Is that you, Robin O, Hey,
Speaker 1: how are you don't look well, I'm not really you
Speaker 1: want to know how well, I'm not. You's a crazy
Speaker 1: And but here's the thing. Those moms are sorority girls.
Speaker 1: Those were sisters. So it's like, that's my point. Those
Speaker 1: girls are witches, like they're not good. Is not anything
Speaker 1: I can relate to for the experience I had in California,
Speaker 1: And I'll just say it, I went to Berkeley. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's like the most mellow, different plan so but when
Speaker 1: you go to the more like extreme southern Alabama kind
Speaker 1: of stuff, not saying you're at Alabama, but yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean that's like But again, I guess maybe that's what
Speaker 1: I don't like. That's that's the sorority type. I don't like. Well,
Speaker 1: that's like the stereo. I mean, I say, I did
Speaker 1: not have anything like that, but that's what I thought of.
Speaker 1: You know, when you think of sorority, that's what that's like. Yeah, Robert,
Speaker 1: did you find that any other moms had a lot
Speaker 1: of issues with this or is it something where these
Speaker 1: sorority moms, because they went through that process, they don't
Speaker 1: look at it as negative as it clearly is well.
Speaker 1: For sure, the people who are the southern women whose
Speaker 1: grandma and great grandma or how they seemed a lot
Speaker 1: more comfortable, definitely devastated when their kids didn't make necessarily
Speaker 1: what they wanted. But the way men who are from
Speaker 1: say California or I met some from Idaho in various
Speaker 1: places like that were blown away and super sick about it,
Speaker 1: even if their kids got what they wanted. This experience
Speaker 1: is just it does not feel good. And they actually
Speaker 1: at the school, there's a joke. The day after mid
Speaker 1: day is called you Holliday for all the girls who
Speaker 1: quit school wish when school calm on. It is literally
Speaker 1: a running joke. They had to change the tuition at
Speaker 1: the university to the day before mid day so that
Speaker 1: you pay your tuition leaving. Oh, this is ridiculous. I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I'm just playing the opposite because I was a legacy.
Speaker 1: My mom was in the exact same house I was
Speaker 1: in at the exact same school. We slept in the
Speaker 1: same bedroom, like I mean he did years later my
Speaker 1: Karen elope from the sorority, like they eloped from the Yeah,
Speaker 1: my like was your dad in the front, Yeah, but
Speaker 1: time he was already in law school, and so my
Speaker 1: mom was young and he came and got her from
Speaker 1: the story and people threw Rice out the sothroity windows.
Speaker 1: Stop it. But my experience is nothing like Robin's daughter.
Speaker 1: But unfortunately there are experiences like this that that is.
Speaker 1: What is that? I think to me more typical, yeah,
Speaker 1: than more the norm where it's like, I think maybe
Speaker 1: you had the not typical norm. I think it just
Speaker 1: depends where you go to schools. But but asked Sarah, like,
Speaker 1: did you love it? No, that's what I was saying.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you. I totally loved it, but
Speaker 1: I I went into it knowing I'm obviously out of
Speaker 1: way less intense school, so it's not gonna. I didn't
Speaker 1: take it that seriously. Did your sister in Alabama like it? Oh? Yeah,
Speaker 1: she loved it, But I mean again, she so she
Speaker 1: was a legacy obviously because I was in a sorority.
Speaker 1: She didn't. She got dropped from them because her grades
Speaker 1: weren't good enough. And she's like whatever, Like, you can
Speaker 1: look at it two ways. She's like, yeah, I wasn't smart,
Speaker 1: my grades physically weren't high enough. Sorry, Docca, But she's
Speaker 1: sorry sorry, your sisters, but because everywhere they're different, and
Speaker 1: she's like, whatever, I got dropped? So what she got
Speaker 1: the ring? Yeah she did. And I think that's way
Speaker 1: more intense at at a southern school. I mean all
Speaker 1: of her, all of her sorority sisters are married to
Speaker 1: their little front boy. Like that's like a real thing. Well, Robin,
Speaker 1: how is how is your daughter now? She she loves
Speaker 1: where she is. As far as the stority goes, I mean,
Speaker 1: I think it's a lot to keep up with being
Speaker 1: a California kid. There's just a lot of things have
Speaker 1: to think about and how they threst and what they
Speaker 1: were so critical and my experience in California where I
Speaker 1: think I got up to like two cities wearing shoulder
Speaker 1: paths and like big sweaters and totally different, probably different.
Speaker 1: These girls are all of like supermodels. It's I think
Speaker 1: it it would kill me. I just think it's giving
Speaker 1: out the wrong image of what you have to look
Speaker 1: like and be, especially in this day and age too,
Speaker 1: where it's like I don't want Jolie to have to
Speaker 1: see like, oh I have to look this way, addressed
Speaker 1: this way, post these kind of pictures on social media
Speaker 1: to try to like fit in and be like one
Speaker 1: of those girls. I don't want to. It's not the
Speaker 1: most diverse environment. And that's coming from California, where we
Speaker 1: have complete diversity, where we live. With a bit of
Speaker 1: a shock for my daughter and yeah, well, Robin, I
Speaker 1: appreciate you sharing your story. Tell your daughter. We said
Speaker 1: good luck and uh go Sororities, thanks for having um.
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Speaker 1: will be happening over the next week. Are you nervous.
Speaker 1: I'm kind of nervous for her, only because I did
Speaker 1: it a long long time ago, So I am nervous
Speaker 1: for her. What region is she and you don't have
Speaker 1: to say the school? She's in Northern California. Did you
Speaker 1: have to do crazy things for rush? Uh? Nothing crazy?
Speaker 1: Just um. You just hit you know, five or six
Speaker 1: houses a day. It was just exhausting and the end
Speaker 1: of the day, Yeah, you kind of had a better
Speaker 1: feel for which house she were leaning towards. In which
Speaker 1: is she leaning towards? Um, I'd say she's leaning towards
Speaker 1: two or three different houses. I'd say, yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: know if you want to know the actual one. Okay,
Speaker 1: one would be Kappa and the other would be probably
Speaker 1: Pi PI. And you were like totally on board when
Speaker 1: she came to and was like, hey, mom, so I
Speaker 1: want to be in a sorority. Oh yeah, definitely, because
Speaker 1: I did it and it was the best time of
Speaker 1: my life. I told her, Yeah, what were the benefits?
Speaker 1: The benefits you mean, Frinch, I'd say, when you're going
Speaker 1: to a new school and you don't really know anyone, uh,
Speaker 1: the first day, you basically are introduced to you know,
Speaker 1: thirty or so girls, at least at the school I
Speaker 1: went to. Those were the girls that you were kind
Speaker 1: of going around with for a week. And I will
Speaker 1: tell you in those for a few days, those girls
Speaker 1: that I met are still my best friends today. Some
Speaker 1: of them went we all went into the same house,
Speaker 1: but um, some of us didn't. But we're all still
Speaker 1: like that, like that's chill. The story that we just
Speaker 1: heard was like frightening, frightening Yeah, oh really yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean just like what they have to do for the
Speaker 1: rush and they're bawling their eyes out and it's like,
Speaker 1: come on, you know. It just seems like I heard
Speaker 1: that we didn't have that though at the school I
Speaker 1: went to. So yeah, but I have heard that. I've
Speaker 1: got friends right now whose daughter did not get into out.
Speaker 1: Let me throw something out. Sorry, sorry to cut you off, Julie. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there is some element to it that is like real life.
Speaker 1: You don't get every job you apply for not everybody
Speaker 1: is going to be your best friend. So I'm just yeah,
Speaker 1: but I don't have But I don't have to play
Speaker 1: stupid games to get a job, do you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? That's like I don't have to like, I
Speaker 1: don't have to do these silly things to get a job.
Speaker 1: But once you're in, like it kind of hold you accountable,
Speaker 1: like you have to have you have to maintain your grades.
Speaker 1: I mean I got put on academic probation because no
Speaker 1: I did. I couldn't go to any of the parties
Speaker 1: because I know, we look, I was there for one
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Speaker 1: And that why the girls go to college, literally it
Speaker 1: is to get their mrs de grade. So I think
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Speaker 1: your house or there were girls that had to co
Speaker 1: exist with it. I mean, oh my god, stories, the stories,
Speaker 1: but it teaches you there are some there are some
Speaker 1: life lessons, but then there is symbols out and I'll
Speaker 1: tell you I got one point nine my first semester,
Speaker 1: and I had the best time in my life. However, yeah,
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Speaker 1: That will be another Come on, it's a real talk,
Speaker 1: right now, get real talk. Excumely, what will you tell
Speaker 1: your daughter she calls you and she's having a bad
Speaker 1: experience and like gets dropped by houses? Uh, let's see,
Speaker 1: I'll probably tell her just to suck it up? Was
Speaker 1: it meant to be? And there? Yeah? Seriously, I mean,
Speaker 1: we're not a real I don't know, we don't We're
Speaker 1: not that emotional of a family. So I would I
Speaker 1: basically say, well, a girlfriend, they were probably just a
Speaker 1: bunch of bitches. Anyways. Yeah, I like your mama and
Speaker 1: where you'll be will be and make the best of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah A men, Sistor, Well, I appreciate your authenticity and
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Speaker 1: some emails and Marcus here email reader. Thank you a
Speaker 1: lot of sorority emails. I picked out some favorite topic,
Speaker 1: isn't it? And some cons? What would you like first
Speaker 1: to pro or con? I'm a glass half empty, so
Speaker 1: let's go at the con, especially when it comes to sorit.
Speaker 1: Nicole says, my friend was hazed doing terrible things such
Speaker 1: as sitting Indian style, which I believe we now refer
Speaker 1: to as Cris cross apple sauce. Yes, what it's not appropriate.
Speaker 1: Indian style is not appropriated because offensive to Native Americans,
Speaker 1: and Julie will start coming home, and she will because
Speaker 1: they teach it in preschool. Chris cross apple sauce, not
Speaker 1: Indian style. No, absolutely, and you were no longer an
Speaker 1: Indian giver. Although I think Indian summer might be okay,
Speaker 1: I'm a double check that anyway, but no, but I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: just real fast. It's something so politically correct that, you know, Chris,
Speaker 1: and what's wrong with saying like an Indian I think
Speaker 1: they're beautiful sitting Indian style. I think it's beautiful. Who cares?
Speaker 1: But if they gets a stereotype that all the Native
Speaker 1: Americans sit a certain way, you know, like around a campfire, right, correct? Sorry,
Speaker 1: I didn't mean to get us off out of tangent. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm sitting Indian style right now, and I'm very happy
Speaker 1: with it. So this was part of the next week.
Speaker 1: Seven hours she squatted holding bricks, She got screamed at,
Speaker 1: being treated like crap. And then you make it into
Speaker 1: the sorority and now you're best friends with these girls. Um, yeah,
Speaker 1: no thanks. I can make friends without having to do
Speaker 1: these terrible things and not talking crap behind each other's backs. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: A big group of girls and no one talks crap.
Speaker 1: That's bull. These girls talk so much assets unreal. Eventually
Speaker 1: you go to college with no friends and you buy
Speaker 1: your friendships. Not for me. Now, if there was really
Speaker 1: a sorority, there was candy in presence, then signed me up.
Speaker 1: You guys are awesome. Love the show and Jeanne, I
Speaker 1: love how down to earth you are and although you
Speaker 1: are a celebrity, you seem so real. All right, I
Speaker 1: love her, I love her. She's great. But by the way,
Speaker 1: like that sounds awful. Never can you imagine? I haven't either,
Speaker 1: I experience. I've seen it in the movies to the
Speaker 1: meanest thing that happened to me was one girl asked
Speaker 1: if I could spell her last name, which I can
Speaker 1: can to these two ways to else. Can you sell
Speaker 1: my listening? I'm just kidding, Yeah I can. Well, that's insane.
Speaker 1: Let's let's cleanse our palates with Jessica. Jessica says I
Speaker 1: was in a sorority in college Alpha Kay Omega anyone Lights.
Speaker 1: She says, yes, there was drama, but I met four
Speaker 1: best friends. We all graduated in two thousand nine and
Speaker 1: went are separate ways. There have been five of us
Speaker 1: living in four states, and we've gone months without talking.
Speaker 1: Two thousand and sixteen, we had a girl's reunion weekend
Speaker 1: in Chicago and there were two kids. All five of
Speaker 1: us had babies. It's been the most amazing experience of
Speaker 1: my life. This mama tribe is so important to me,
Speaker 1: and I would never have met these friends without the sorority.
Speaker 1: Sarah's goose, I'm so embarrassing. We are all always there
Speaker 1: for each other, from the beginning, through miscarriages, struggles to
Speaker 1: get pregnant, now horror stories of teething and toddler is
Speaker 1: going crazy. Yeah, there was some drama and girls I
Speaker 1: didn't get along with in college, but I love them
Speaker 1: all and I love watching them grow on their lives
Speaker 1: even though we were not ends. Then there's a bond
Speaker 1: that will never be broken. Well that's sweet, Jessica. They're
Speaker 1: like double tapping on every install photo that they post.
Speaker 1: And what's even funnier is like the girls that like you,
Speaker 1: weren't friends with. Yeah, I see them like right on
Speaker 1: Janice pictures stop, So they're still there even though they're
Speaker 1: still talking you. Oh they're talking you but like you,
Speaker 1: And they're like are they happy? Maybe no, they're jealous. Friend,
Speaker 1: Let's swing back the other way. This is another jest
Speaker 1: with her nightmare experience. I was in a chapter for
Speaker 1: about six months before I started dating a guy in
Speaker 1: a fraternity at my same school. He was in a
Speaker 1: leadership position in his frat. I was running for VP
Speaker 1: and mine six months later, I was VP and in
Speaker 1: charge of our recruitment, but also second hand to our president.
Speaker 1: I even with that guy for a while now, and
Speaker 1: I loved him. So one day I'm on his computer
Speaker 1: doing some homework and saw a text come from one
Speaker 1: of his friends that read, did you do her? I
Speaker 1: clicked on it and read the text beoot him his friend,
Speaker 1: and I found that he had slept with the current
Speaker 1: president of my sorority, who blatantly knew of my relationship
Speaker 1: and took pictures of her naked and sent them to
Speaker 1: his friends in his fraternity. I left his place with
Speaker 1: no explanation, and I waited till my sorority's next chapter meeting,
Speaker 1: where I called out the president for her character and
Speaker 1: tried to have her removed as president. My plan was
Speaker 1: to drop the sorority, because why would I want to
Speaker 1: be a part of something where the women don't respect
Speaker 1: their sisterhood. The whole soroity thing is bs and click
Speaker 1: oriented and not worth the time and money. But y'all
Speaker 1: her sisters. No, that's actually that that's screwed up. That's
Speaker 1: a rough one. And finally Aaron and then a positive
Speaker 1: shout out to Amy for defending sorority girls. Mine was big.
Speaker 1: There were girls that didn't like my pled class with
Speaker 1: sixty five plus girls, not everyone got along, but I
Speaker 1: held a special place in my heart for each and
Speaker 1: every Kappa Alpha Theta. The experiences and life lessons gave
Speaker 1: me something I would never take back for a second.
Speaker 1: And by the way, you don't have to drink or
Speaker 1: get drunk to in a sorority. I did plenty of
Speaker 1: sober activities with my sisters. My sorority was being known
Speaker 1: as the smart girls on campus with the highest gp
Speaker 1: A for fifteen years in a row. To each their own,
Speaker 1: but don't knock it. I won't knock it. And one
Speaker 1: last thing, you know, now that we're I had friends,
Speaker 1: Like one of my best girlfriends was in a different sorority,
Speaker 1: and so, I mean, I don't know if that happens everywhere,
Speaker 1: but that's what I liked. You know, I didn't just
Speaker 1: have to be with you know, Rachel was a d G. Okay,
Speaker 1: other Rachel was a data so still friends with Rachel's.
Speaker 1: I just actually was in San Francisco had coffee with her.
Speaker 1: But again, I don't know if that's everywhere, you know,
Speaker 1: but because you might not be able to go out,
Speaker 1: you might. Yeah, but I love that that, you know,
Speaker 1: we could kind of vent about our tribes to other tribes.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm glad people have had great experiences. I'm
Speaker 1: sorry for the ones that have had have had bad.
Speaker 1: But I think that's that's the part that I just
Speaker 1: I can't get on board, you know. Sometimes I you know,
Speaker 1: it would it be fun to go do like an
Speaker 1: speriment and go spend like a week with Mirity. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that'd be I actually would like I've always wanted
Speaker 1: to do that, like to go back to like either
Speaker 1: high school or college and like t like that. Um,
Speaker 1: I haven't even for Sarah, this is not frat related,
Speaker 1: sorority related by sisters. Yeah, Jamie says, I'm in a
Speaker 1: similar situation is Sarah. But I'm thirty four. We've been
Speaker 1: together only two years. My boyfriend is forty two divorced.
Speaker 1: We've lived together over a year. When we first got together,
Speaker 1: he said, twelve months. Then when a year came and
Speaker 1: went I had no ring. I brought it up again.
Speaker 1: He said eighteen months. Again, six more months, no ring.
Speaker 1: When or two year anniversary rolled around, I set him
Speaker 1: down and I said to him, I gave up having
Speaker 1: a second child for you. I will not give up marriage.
Speaker 1: It is not too late for me. So if you
Speaker 1: don't plan on putting a ring on in the next
Speaker 1: twelve months, you tell me right now. He was scared.
Speaker 1: He said he would absolutely propose to me in the
Speaker 1: next six months. So now I'm enjoying the as a patient.
Speaker 1: I'm keeping my hair, skin and nails looking good looking
Speaker 1: every holiday, birthday and the event we have coming up.
Speaker 1: Her man is not stupid. He chose her and he
Speaker 1: will not let her go. I hope she gets everything
Speaker 1: she deserves it more YouTube Jana whatever, Wait, what do
Speaker 1: we call your fans? Like the downs? Like oh my god,
Speaker 1: the love? Yeah, you got a lot, I got a lot.
Speaker 1: I mean that was no joke. And I don't know.
Speaker 1: I feel like I got so many messages that were
Speaker 1: like that that We're like, I've been with him for
Speaker 1: nine and I've been with him for seven. I've been
Speaker 1: with him for eight, and I think that just kind
Speaker 1: of made me realize. Okay, I don't. I don't want
Speaker 1: that to be me. Just make sure you keep your
Speaker 1: nails looking nice. This is a great engagement color. Do
Speaker 1: you know why I was thinking that? Is that like
Speaker 1: bubble gum? Something is? And I actually told Tigo just
Speaker 1: for the record, if they're hot pink, you better you
Speaker 1: better call someone. Someone better take me to get my
Speaker 1: He's like, what's wrong? I go, I didn't wait this
Speaker 1: long to have hot pink nails. Who's gonna be here for?
Speaker 1: Is called when you get engaged? I don't know, because
Speaker 1: I'm hoping that like, and are you going to post
Speaker 1: a picture before you tell people? You have to? Please
Speaker 1: just tell me first before you put out. No, I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna put it for like a moment, because this
Speaker 1: I feel like this is something that like I want
Speaker 1: us to be like get our moment. Have you thought
Speaker 1: about the kind of picture that you wanted to post?
Speaker 1: Because it should be I mean, it should she lives
Speaker 1: her life like a Kardashian or you want to that's
Speaker 1: like it's like you know what I mean. I think
Speaker 1: it should be like like holding a hockey puck, but
Speaker 1: that's hilarious, But no, like a glass of champagne or
Speaker 1: just drinking cop on the Sunday morning. Oh, you're not
Speaker 1: really telling people, but people are like like where they
Speaker 1: just like oh, I think so, it's not like I
Speaker 1: hate the single ring or like him like right, oh
Speaker 1: please no no no no no no no no. I
Speaker 1: have a question for you though, because I was wondering
Speaker 1: about this, because we are obsessed with the Kardashians so much.
Speaker 1: Do you want the extravagant proposal? Like what what would
Speaker 1: it be your dream propose? I know when I heard so,
Speaker 1: I think now, to be honest, I'm just happy. I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna be happy to get it. I don't want
Speaker 1: it to be in public, and I don't know if
Speaker 1: I want like a big extravagant thing, because that's not
Speaker 1: him and it's not really I mean when I helped
Speaker 1: plan my sisters, he did it in her house and
Speaker 1: then we were all like the people there. I think
Speaker 1: I've always said, like, I just it's a celebrate. I
Speaker 1: want to celebrate, like I want to party, especially for
Speaker 1: waiting this long, Like I want us to be surrounded
Speaker 1: and have fun. After My friends are like, that's so weird,
Speaker 1: why would you want us involved? I'm like because we've
Speaker 1: all been in this together, you know, like this is
Speaker 1: something I want everyone. I don't know, but I mean,
Speaker 1: like honestly, like if we were in bed and he
Speaker 1: just like, I'd be happy, Well I have something in
Speaker 1: my pillow case, you would be so. But I don't
Speaker 1: want it to be like in public, like I do
Speaker 1: not want to be like you don't want to hear
Speaker 1: online right here? No, not dinner or not public. I
Speaker 1: don't know what am I saying. I don't even know.
Speaker 1: You don't want Janna to pull you guys up on stage?
Speaker 1: She would die. I mean, it only feels right that
Speaker 1: Jenna was there because I mean, I feel like she's
Speaker 1: really got the ball rolling I do, you've really put
Speaker 1: this emotion. I'm the one that grabbing his balls. No,
Speaker 1: you are what are you doing? No? I actually kind
Speaker 1: of felt I felt, I mean, I've never done this.
Speaker 1: So when the podcast came out, I was like a
Speaker 1: little nervous, and then I was like, you know what,
Speaker 1: what's what's there? If this is meant to be, it's
Speaker 1: meant to be and I'm having a voice and I'm
Speaker 1: using it. And then when all those people started texting
Speaker 1: me and jamming me, I was like, it's all, it
Speaker 1: all makes sense, like there's nothing to be ashamed of.
Speaker 1: I was like, really, I'm like, I'm having everyone come
Speaker 1: out here to listen to me say I can't get
Speaker 1: my boyfriend to marry me. But yeah, I'm like, it's nothing. Hey,
Speaker 1: switching gears a second. Um, do you guys? Maybe this
Speaker 1: is because I'm I want to I want to talk
Speaker 1: about this, but I like don't want to talk about
Speaker 1: because I'm scared if maybe the person is listening. But
Speaker 1: do you guys have a friend that you had? It's like,
Speaker 1: I don't know preschool, it could be like a childhood friend,
Speaker 1: but you've grown apart, but you kind of but you
Speaker 1: were still like it was your best friend in high
Speaker 1: school as your best friend. But it's like, but do
Speaker 1: you have to be best friends now? I just talked
Speaker 1: to her last night. Really, I've known her since I
Speaker 1: was four. She was my first friend. She's my best friend.
Speaker 1: We've gone through some years where we didn't talk at all,
Speaker 1: but our friendship as soon as we reconnect, you always
Speaker 1: picked up exactly. It's like no time has passed. I
Speaker 1: know her better than her sisters know her, and she
Speaker 1: knows me better than my sisters will ever know me.
Speaker 1: I mean, we've met in it. We lived together in college.
Speaker 1: We did she put an effort though she has two kids,
Speaker 1: and she lives in Matro Detroit, and we lived very
Speaker 1: very different lives, very different lives. Um, we both put in.
Speaker 1: I'm going to say we talked to each other on
Speaker 1: the phone maybe two or three times a year. Um.
Speaker 1: But we we are active on social media, so we
Speaker 1: know whatever what we're doing. And and I love her
Speaker 1: more than anything. And to get a call from her
Speaker 1: last night, it was awesome. And I was thinking about
Speaker 1: her thirty minutes before she called. When you have an
Speaker 1: old friend that you're not friends with anymore, well, it's
Speaker 1: not that we're not friends anymore. It's because I have
Speaker 1: I have plenty of friends where you know, I have
Speaker 1: I have a one of my skating girlfriend's Missy, Like
Speaker 1: we've always been friends. We pick up where we leave
Speaker 1: off every time I've seen her. I mean, there's I
Speaker 1: have plenty of friends like that. I mean, just like
Speaker 1: my friend jen Wayne, she's you know, she was a
Speaker 1: bridesmaid in my wedding. I don't talk to her much
Speaker 1: because she's she's in runaway. June she's always on the road. Um,
Speaker 1: but I know what she's doing obviously, like from social media,
Speaker 1: and we always pick up where we leave off. But
Speaker 1: I have this one girlfriend where when we've been friends
Speaker 1: since middle school, but god, I'm like, I'm like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, I'm I stepping into like a dog pile
Speaker 1: right now of like stuff. But everyone can ye everyone,
Speaker 1: it's just setting it up. She didn't. She didn't call
Speaker 1: me or text me when I had my two miscarriages
Speaker 1: last year. She didn't, you know, text me when she
Speaker 1: found out that I was because it said, here's the thing, Like,
Speaker 1: I mean, did I call people like I? Yess? I
Speaker 1: told some of my Nashville girls that I had a miscarriage.
Speaker 1: I told you Sarah that had miscarriage, you know, and
Speaker 1: then I posted online. I know she's on social media,
Speaker 1: but you would think that someone that you have been
Speaker 1: best friends with since since middle school would have reached
Speaker 1: out and been like, I don't care how busy you
Speaker 1: are with your two kids and your job. It hurt
Speaker 1: my feelings that you didn't reach out. Also, I've always
Speaker 1: felt like she reached out for something like and it's
Speaker 1: like and maybe because I'm not, I go I go,
Speaker 1: I bet you the second I am on something again,
Speaker 1: she will reach out. And the second that you know
Speaker 1: I did, family feuders like, oh my god, I'm like,
Speaker 1: of course, why are you just attracted now to my
Speaker 1: personality as opposed to now like me and I think
Speaker 1: like we had a little bit of like a you know,
Speaker 1: I don't think she understood why I took Mike back.
Speaker 1: I don't think her husband like that I took Mike back,
Speaker 1: but it was and maybe that was the strain there,
Speaker 1: but there was never like I have such deeper relationships
Speaker 1: now with other people that I'm like, but why do
Speaker 1: I keep calling her my best friend? And I don't
Speaker 1: think that's my best friend anymore. She's not being a
Speaker 1: bust friend to you, so she's not your best friend.
Speaker 1: Let's come out from another perspective, because that's always the
Speaker 1: best way to do it. So now you have to
Speaker 1: really look deep in yourself. Do you reach out to
Speaker 1: her with whatever? I've tried? But she doesn't go deep.
Speaker 1: That's the thing, Like I'd be like, how are you
Speaker 1: and you know your husband and she doesn't ever go
Speaker 1: It's like, oh it's great. It's like I want relationships now.
Speaker 1: I don't want just the like, well, some people are
Speaker 1: ar cakes and rainbows, and it's so that might have
Speaker 1: you're dealing with, which is why it's hard for her
Speaker 1: to come to you. But she's never been that like
Speaker 1: kind of like. But I mean, all I really know
Speaker 1: is from high school because after high school I moved
Speaker 1: to New York in the l A. So. And then
Speaker 1: from then it was just whenever she came out to visit.
Speaker 1: She's still in the Midwest. She's still in the Midwest.
Speaker 1: You know, I've heard she's quitting your job. Jealous. You know,
Speaker 1: I don't think she's jealous, but no, but I mean
Speaker 1: the second that I was on you know, one of
Speaker 1: her favorite shows, was she here like gung ho Blazing,
Speaker 1: Like of course, But when you guys were in high school,
Speaker 1: did you what was the relationship? I mean, we're best
Speaker 1: is but what kind of I mean, like again, like
Speaker 1: you grow so much from like high school to where
Speaker 1: we are now, so it's like yeah, and it's like
Speaker 1: now I'm you know, I'm calling you know, I'm calling
Speaker 1: you guys, I'm calling my my friends in Nashville. And
Speaker 1: it's like, because I don't feel like I can go
Speaker 1: that deeper. Did a relationship with her because she's not
Speaker 1: like you're going there with me. I was going to
Speaker 1: say one time, that makes me sad, It's okay, you
Speaker 1: have to go. People grow. You've grown, she hasn't. It
Speaker 1: happens a lot when I've had it with a lot
Speaker 1: of my friends that have had a long time that
Speaker 1: stayed in the Midwest, because when you have your whole
Speaker 1: perspective changes and the way you live your life is
Speaker 1: so different. It happens because you've gone through so much
Speaker 1: that you've changed to because you've gone through a lot
Speaker 1: of stuff, and so you've changed, and she hasn't or
Speaker 1: can't relate or can't catch up, or just is a
Speaker 1: different type of person. But I mean, even my friends
Speaker 1: that can't relate to they're still They're like, they're still
Speaker 1: like emotionally available. They're still. And again, I get a
Speaker 1: busy schedule, but nothing nobody can tell me that their
Speaker 1: schedule is anything I'm doing, and that I still have
Speaker 1: a good relationship with my girlfriends, that I there's no
Speaker 1: reason why I can't text you back or say like, hey,
Speaker 1: I saw this post and I'm so sorry it's something
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So I was because it
Speaker 1: just made me think of it because I was going
Speaker 1: through something on Facebook popped up yesterday and it said
Speaker 1: eleven years ago, and I was like, wow, like it's
Speaker 1: just it's changed. It's like and now it's like but
Speaker 1: it's sad because it's like it's almost like a loss
Speaker 1: of like it's really hard. I have it with a
Speaker 1: couple of friends and and it's hard. I mean I
Speaker 1: think about it sometimes and I'm like, oh, I almost
Speaker 1: kind of have to block it. And it's almost like
Speaker 1: am I putting on something. It's like every time I
Speaker 1: go home, I'm always texting her, But the last time
Speaker 1: I went home, I didn't really see a lot of effort.
Speaker 1: So I was like, I'm not putting in this effort
Speaker 1: if you're not even going to put effort in like
Speaker 1: the one time that I'm home a year to actually
Speaker 1: like come see me, you know, or like to to whatever.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, why don't do that? But and that's
Speaker 1: like where I'm now like grieving it, where it's like
Speaker 1: the last time I came, I didn't text her, and
Speaker 1: I was like that was hard because I've always texted her.
Speaker 1: But I'm like, wait, I'm not in high school anymore.
Speaker 1: I'm not. We're not. We've outgrown. I guess that relationship
Speaker 1: said something to me one time and they were like,
Speaker 1: you know, we treat like relationship like you know with
Speaker 1: your partner, but friendships have um now, I can't think
Speaker 1: of what I was going to. Friendships have expiration dates too,
Speaker 1: and sometimes there's nothing you can do. And I have
Speaker 1: that with a friend. It's very uncomfortable, it's very awkward
Speaker 1: because it's currently happening. But that's when she said that
Speaker 1: to me. I was like, wait, it clicked. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: some things just expire and no one did anything and
Speaker 1: nothing happens. But like you're growing, You've gone through so
Speaker 1: much and she probably can't relate, and again I can't.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't have kids, I don't have a husband,
Speaker 1: I don't have but like we are just connecting on
Speaker 1: a different level and maybe it's just hard for something.
Speaker 1: You do have the option, even though it would be
Speaker 1: hard to tell her what you told us and really
Speaker 1: call her and say, hey, I really want to talk
Speaker 1: to you. We've I feel like we're growing apart or
Speaker 1: I feel like we we're not, you know, whatever it is.
Speaker 1: That's sort of an option if if it makes you
Speaker 1: feel so bad. You can try that. Yeah, you can
Speaker 1: also say whatever you can to grieve it and move on. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I kind of. You know, it's funny. It's a girlfriend
Speaker 1: from that kind of group had reached out to me
Speaker 1: and we had more of a connected conversation through text
Speaker 1: within five minutes than what I'd have had with her
Speaker 1: in years, where I was like, man, I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: please text me again. I'd love to chat with you
Speaker 1: again because we were friends and we did a girl
Speaker 1: And that's the thing, Like I'm all about picking up
Speaker 1: where we leave off, Like even if if I don't
Speaker 1: talk to you for a couple of months, like whatever,
Speaker 1: like we always picked back and live off. That's fine,
Speaker 1: But it's always that like it's a connected relationship where
Speaker 1: you're just you're you, you share, both both parties share.
Speaker 1: And but I guess it's just hard for me because
Speaker 1: when I saw that phote on Facebook and like, damn
Speaker 1: Facebook for always being the thing to remind me of
Speaker 1: my relationships. And I'm like, thanks for the memory, Facebook,
Speaker 1: the wormhole devil. Yeah, but thanks for letting me get
Speaker 1: that off my chest. I just and I guess you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I don't think I want to
Speaker 1: have that because I think I'm just and I have that.
Speaker 1: I just I think I've just passed it. It's not
Speaker 1: if I don't see her any effort, and then I
Speaker 1: just I have to do from it. I have a
Speaker 1: couple of friends where it's like, like, you know, whatever,
Speaker 1: if she does end up texting me, sure, but I'm
Speaker 1: I bet you it'll be when something comes out, either
Speaker 1: on TV or whatever. So I always say that your
Speaker 1: life is a beautiful garden, and if you allow weeds
Speaker 1: to continue to grow, it's going to really up your
Speaker 1: garden and it's not going to be a beautiful place.
Speaker 1: So when stuff like this happens, you just have to
Speaker 1: pull the weeds out. But I think it's like can flourish. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think it's hard though, just because like in in
Speaker 1: this age, it's like we think that we have to
Speaker 1: continue on with the friendships that we've had since high school.
Speaker 1: But it's like, no, I'm a thirty four year old woman.
Speaker 1: I don't have I don't have to be friends with
Speaker 1: you anymore. Give yourself permission to move on. I know
Speaker 1: it's a weird feeling. I have two friends that were
Speaker 1: like best friends and I have a great group of friends,
Speaker 1: but two of them have like really dropped off left
Speaker 1: the tribe. And it's like one is fully left and
Speaker 1: the other one it's like, you know, some people go
Speaker 1: through things. It's like the Four Agreements. Likely it's not
Speaker 1: about you as much as it feels like it's about you.
Speaker 1: Something could be going on with her where she just
Speaker 1: I just want real if you can't be vulnerable and
Speaker 1: I'm not saying you gotta tell me every like skeleton
Speaker 1: in your closet, but if we can't have an honest
Speaker 1: just a just an authentic conversation, not just like oh yeah, things,
Speaker 1: kids are good, I'm like, that's I don't. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't like when I asked someone how are you
Speaker 1: and they say good, because I think it's a bunch
Speaker 1: of baloney. Everything nobody are a is good? Right? No,
Speaker 1: I'm tired. I know yesterday and I was traveling, the
Speaker 1: guys like the even the flight guy, he was like,
Speaker 1: how are you. I go honestly, I don't want to
Speaker 1: be flying right now. I was like, oh my tired.
Speaker 1: I was somewhere and I'm like, how are you? And
Speaker 1: the person was like, whoa. I mean sometimes you don't
Speaker 1: want to hear a sob story. But again, like if
Speaker 1: it's you know, a relationship, but it's like you want
Speaker 1: to have that other partner. So thanks for letting me
Speaker 1: get that because I was just every single person listening.
Speaker 1: If you want to, yeah, if it's been a minute
Speaker 1: and you do care about that relationship, give the personal call.
Speaker 1: Do it. Yeah. If that ship has sailed, it's okay,
Speaker 1: let it sail that's me sail away. And you know what,
Speaker 1: It's interesting though, in ten years that person can come
Speaker 1: back and it's like people change, so you never know.
Speaker 1: You just don't know. She needs maybe some time and growth. Yeah,
Speaker 1: speaking of growth? What? Oh no, I was I was
Speaker 1: going to tell you earlier. I was in New York
Speaker 1: for a week for work and Rocco had to stay
Speaker 1: with his dad. And when I got home, I got
Speaker 1: a text that I needed to call him because he
Speaker 1: needed to talk to me. And I was like about
Speaker 1: what it was, Oh, well, um, after work, I'll talk
Speaker 1: with you. I was like, oh, all right, whatever. So
Speaker 1: last night and like waiting around, waiting around, are you nervous? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was kind of nervous because I was like, what, like,
Speaker 1: just just tell me it's like, yeah, so annoying. Um.
Speaker 1: So he got on the phone and he said, uh
Speaker 1: so while you were while you were gone, um, you know,
Speaker 1: at least four or five times, and I rocko asked, um, so,
Speaker 1: I wonder what so and so is doing the boyfriend
Speaker 1: yours around the dad, right, And it happened like every
Speaker 1: day times and I said, well, I'm really sorry, but
Speaker 1: he's curious. We spend a lot of time with him
Speaker 1: and his daughter or he and his daughter, and um
Speaker 1: and when the kids you're going to be around that
Speaker 1: your mom's we live in the same neighborhood, you know. Um.
Speaker 1: So I'm sorry, but this is what it is. And
Speaker 1: he ended up being okay with it, but I was
Speaker 1: just you know, and then he said, well then he
Speaker 1: was asking why aren't we living in the same house
Speaker 1: and why aren't we together anymore? And I said, well,
Speaker 1: he often asked that, and it's really normal. And I
Speaker 1: have a talk with him about how his one friend
Speaker 1: only as a dad and his other friend only has
Speaker 1: a mom, and his other friend is you know, because
Speaker 1: the same situation as you know he does, where his
Speaker 1: mom and his dad lives separately, and every family is
Speaker 1: different and there's nothing wrong with that, And it's actually
Speaker 1: really you're you know, are really lucky that you have
Speaker 1: a mom and dad who love you so much, and um,
Speaker 1: you get to spend one on one time with us
Speaker 1: and get to do all kinds of things. He said, Oh, well,
Speaker 1: I never thought to, you know, talk about it that way.
Speaker 1: How old is he? Who? He's six? You're like my cousin.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's going to be a tough situation. No,
Speaker 1: it's really difficult, you know, and it's kind of getting
Speaker 1: muddy with lives moving on. Um, but it's just I
Speaker 1: think he's jealous to probably he's the other man in
Speaker 1: his life, probably because I would know if that was
Speaker 1: my husband, he would be like, why is jolly talking about? Right? No,
Speaker 1: And I'm you know, trying to be really compassionate about that.
Speaker 1: And um, do you get why people stay married until
Speaker 1: the kids go to college? And then they masses them
Speaker 1: up so bad? But but here's the thing that I
Speaker 1: just had a light bulb on. It's not about the
Speaker 1: kids why they stay till the kids go to college.
Speaker 1: It's about them. They can't handle it. But then when
Speaker 1: your kids are adults, you don't really care. You're like,
Speaker 1: who cares right, No, I just realize, really say, their staying,
Speaker 1: you know, for the kids, but they're staying because they
Speaker 1: can't handle the kids being with someone. And I get that.
Speaker 1: That's why I don't know that most divorces happen when
Speaker 1: the kids go to college. I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 1: I know one of my girlfriend's parents divorced right when
Speaker 1: they when she went to college. But I will say,
Speaker 1: I mean, to your to your point, Amy, the leading
Speaker 1: force of why I have not left Mike is I
Speaker 1: do not want another lady around my child. And I
Speaker 1: but having said that, when I'm done, if I was
Speaker 1: ever to be done done with Mike, I wouldn't care.
Speaker 1: But I still care because I still love him. Of
Speaker 1: course I still don't want her to get the better
Speaker 1: version of him, but I also don't want my child
Speaker 1: and I don't want him hanging around some whatever kind
Speaker 1: of chick that he picked up around my child. And
Speaker 1: I wouldn't want Jolie talking about her. So that was
Speaker 1: in the very beginning. I mean, when my girlfriends were like,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter, you're still her mom, I was like,
Speaker 1: I don't care, Yes, I'll be because I know, like
Speaker 1: she's I know every single part of that child, like
Speaker 1: she's she came from me, Like she will never call
Speaker 1: anyone else a mom or you know. But again, but
Speaker 1: I think if I was like so done, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: care in my five second google I just did. It's
Speaker 1: totally torn. Like like two psychologists are like, kid, shouldn't
Speaker 1: live in an unhappy home, You shouldn't live in an
Speaker 1: unhappy home, You shouldn't be in a bad marriage. But
Speaker 1: you know, it's like, yeah, it's a crap shoot. I
Speaker 1: will say though, like if we were to get divorced,
Speaker 1: the major already of the time spent would be with me, right,
Speaker 1: so it would be me and my significant other, so
Speaker 1: she wouldn't really be around the other the other battle
Speaker 1: and then he tries to bring it on baby that
Speaker 1: I can't even but I will say, like with in
Speaker 1: my situation with my parents, I know my mom did try.
Speaker 1: I wish she would have left my dad years ago.
Speaker 1: It was not a good upbringing. In certain situation, you
Speaker 1: don't want, you know. One of my main reasons for
Speaker 1: making this huge life change was I didn't want Rocko
Speaker 1: to grow up seeing those things, thinking that that's the
Speaker 1: way a relationship is. No communication that you know, it's
Speaker 1: completely silent, you know, through dinner it's that's not that's
Speaker 1: not what I want for him in the future, agreed
Speaker 1: at all. So you know, you have to make those
Speaker 1: hard choices. But then after the hard choice is made,
Speaker 1: now you have to deal with all the mud. But
Speaker 1: I mean there could be good stuff. I mean, like
Speaker 1: who knows, like you know, maybe like I will say this,
Speaker 1: like if my dad would have married the girl that
Speaker 1: he's now married to, I would have had a way
Speaker 1: better relationship with my dad afterwards, because I love the
Speaker 1: lady he's married to now, like she's lovely. But the
Speaker 1: lady he married after my mom, which was like his
Speaker 1: a fair girl, I hated her so like that you
Speaker 1: know that that doesn't make it happy either, But again
Speaker 1: that kind of shapes like how your relationship with your
Speaker 1: parents are going to be after the divorce. And I
Speaker 1: don't know any unhappily divorced people though, Like do you
Speaker 1: know anyone that's divorced? Like if I could only just
Speaker 1: get you know, and so bad, I will say my
Speaker 1: mom was unhappy for a very like time, but she yes,
Speaker 1: so yeah, my dad had an affair end up marrying
Speaker 1: his a fair girl. But he but she said I wish.
Speaker 1: She did say at one point, I wish I would
Speaker 1: have And I think she said that in a time
Speaker 1: of just despair and loneliness because she's like, I'm never
Speaker 1: going to find anybody. I'm like, yes you are a mom,
Speaker 1: like yes you are, like you will, you will, you will.
Speaker 1: It just might not be tomorrow. But you know, once
Speaker 1: it was fifteen years and it was twenty years, and
Speaker 1: so it was like, you know, of course, like she's like,
Speaker 1: I'm never gonna find but she did. But she did say,
Speaker 1: she did say she wishes that she would have tried,
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit harder, And I was like, no, Mom,
Speaker 1: it wouldn't have changed. He would not. It would not have.
Speaker 1: You two did not work together. You were meant to
Speaker 1: have my brother and I and that was it. And
Speaker 1: now she's married. To get this, she's married to my
Speaker 1: brother's ex wife's dad. So his so okay, So my
Speaker 1: brother was married to a lady named Jackie who which
Speaker 1: we're not going there but um so um yes, and
Speaker 1: so married married Jackie. So his father in law was Dan. Okay,
Speaker 1: Now they had kids and so Ava and Dylan have
Speaker 1: you know their grandpa is you know, grandpa, you know,
Speaker 1: Papa Papa Dan and then Papa Nora from the other side. Um,
Speaker 1: so then when their grandparents were married. Now my dad
Speaker 1: now my brother's stepdad or you know, obviously not really
Speaker 1: like you know, he's not gonna call like stepdad, but
Speaker 1: like his stepdad is his ex father in law. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, next week we're talking about this because I'm
Speaker 1: so curious now like at Christmas. Oh, save it for
Speaker 1: next week. We're out of time from this week, but
Speaker 1: oh my god. Oh I can't wait to hear more
Speaker 1: about the guys. Yeah, okay, Oh, I just want to
Speaker 1: thank everybody for calling in today. Um I want to
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Speaker 1: I'm not sorry. I'm not gonna let I don't think
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let Julie set up for Shorty. But it's
Speaker 1: all good. I've got I've got sixteen more years. You're
Speaker 1: good for that. So good. Yeah, let me talk about
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