WEBVTT - Ep. 16 Sorority Row

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<v Speaker 1>Wine Down with Janna Kramer and I Heart Radio podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>We're having a jam party in here right now. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm playing the Forum September one in l A. And

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<v Speaker 1>I just broke the news to Easton that I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>singing his favorite song, so because I was like, I

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<v Speaker 1>just don't think my guys even know the song. It's

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<v Speaker 1>called Goodbye California, and Easton and I just like totally

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<v Speaker 1>jammed out to it and sang it. The professional musicians

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<v Speaker 1>they have a weekend a half. You can tell them

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<v Speaker 1>to learn it. This is their job. We just sang

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<v Speaker 1>it together though. I me, Mason, I like totally just

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<v Speaker 1>sang it together. I want to see the front row

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<v Speaker 1>singing along to that. I like, you tell the Chattoos

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<v Speaker 1>driving in the country where the daffads like him A

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<v Speaker 1>sang it sanks to hat playing country five Chicken is

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<v Speaker 1>a beautiful thing? Is hug and hold you? Hello Heve

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<v Speaker 1>and so good bye California. Yeah, September one, ladies, you

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<v Speaker 1>can see that happen is a better husband you than me?

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<v Speaker 1>All the words? Yeah, I don't even think you would

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<v Speaker 1>know one lyric to that. I don't know, probably not

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<v Speaker 1>not that one, not that one. I don't even think

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard you performed that one. I don't think I've

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<v Speaker 1>ever performed that one yet. But we've got a studio full.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so excited. Um coming back for her grand return.

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<v Speaker 1>Does she have the ring or not? Formerly known as

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<v Speaker 1>Sarah gret Sky. We've obviously got market Easton and Jen

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<v Speaker 1>and then my husband is back as well. Um, so Jen.

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<v Speaker 1>We dropped Jolie off at preschool, who cried. Michael would

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<v Speaker 1>not let go of her. I was like, let's go.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh, Julie, you're let me take you

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<v Speaker 1>into the class. Let me see you down. Let's play

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<v Speaker 1>Plato and the teachers. No other parents are in there.

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<v Speaker 1>All the parents have already left. It's just me like

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<v Speaker 1>sitting at table. Kids are playing Plato. Teachers are like, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>like get out of here, get out. Did you have

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<v Speaker 1>any idea that you were going to react that way?

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<v Speaker 1>A little yes, a little bit because when my brother,

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<v Speaker 1>because there's fortune your difference between me and my brother,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I remember dropping him off at preschool, and

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<v Speaker 1>I remember giving my mom crap back in the day

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<v Speaker 1>because she'd be like crying when she left. Mom, I

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<v Speaker 1>was not a big deal, and then the first time

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<v Speaker 1>I dropped him off by myself and he called me

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<v Speaker 1>me me when I was a kid. He said, He's like,

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<v Speaker 1>arms me me. I was like, oh my god, I was.

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<v Speaker 1>I just started like bawling. I was like, I have

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<v Speaker 1>to leave. I felt like the worst person in the

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<v Speaker 1>world leaving him crying. Yeah, And I thought I was

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<v Speaker 1>going to be the one crying. And this time Mike

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<v Speaker 1>literally would not like. I was like, Michael, we have

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<v Speaker 1>to go. And then so she starts crying because he's

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<v Speaker 1>like clinging onto her, and I was like, let go

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<v Speaker 1>of her, like we have your making her upset. She's

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<v Speaker 1>such a daddy's girl now. So that's why I was

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<v Speaker 1>easier for Jenna to leave, because she just loves her

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<v Speaker 1>some daddy. Um okay, but that's late. Yeah, when Mama's boy,

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<v Speaker 1>my little baby bull came over, came over, it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be cuddle movie. I just wanted. All they want

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<v Speaker 1>to do is cuddle with you. Even the flight attendants

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<v Speaker 1>on the plane last night when I'm coming back from

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<v Speaker 1>out of town, they were Jane was in the bat

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking about kids, and they recognized Janna and they

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<v Speaker 1>both had boys, and Jane's in bathroom, like it was

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<v Speaker 1>your daughter Daddy's girls, Like she's become one recently, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're like, oh, just wait till you have that boy.

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<v Speaker 1>He's going to be all over her. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I keep hearing that, So your time will come.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't worry, honey. I mean she's still a mom, like

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<v Speaker 1>when she's sick, when she like you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>Like that's when she's like mama. But she's definitely like

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<v Speaker 1>switched gears to Michael, which is great because we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>need that when the baby comes toosolutely. It's a good transition. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>for sure, I know what else would you guys? But

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<v Speaker 1>up too, Well, we went out of town for a

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<v Speaker 1>little project way to go back to Nashville take care

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<v Speaker 1>of a few things. Um so yeah, we did that

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<v Speaker 1>and then we got back late last We're literally there

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<v Speaker 1>for twenty four hours. Yeah, it was a crazy whirlwind

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four hours. So it was it was nuts, but

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<v Speaker 1>it was great. Like I'm excited to like talk about that.

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<v Speaker 1>We can't right now, but we're very excited to share

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<v Speaker 1>in the future. But I know, but it was funny.

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<v Speaker 1>Michael made fun of me so bad yesterday in the airport.

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<v Speaker 1>Will we just say this? So, so we're going home

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<v Speaker 1>this weekend to um his dad's retirement. It's a surprise party.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're flying to Virginia on Thursday, like having this

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing. So his mom texted us in a group

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<v Speaker 1>chat and was like, what do you guys want Thursday

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<v Speaker 1>night for dinner? Fohitos or tacos. I hate fahitas, which

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<v Speaker 1>is news to me, not news. Never order him never

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<v Speaker 1>or you never verbally said I hate I have, but

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't. He has selective hearing. So I was like, taca,

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<v Speaker 1>he goes fahitas and I'm like what you know? She

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<v Speaker 1>said tacos. I was like no, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>how could he say that? You know? So I'm thinking,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking she's gonna side with me, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a mom's boy. I'm like, it's my mama asking

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<v Speaker 1>and she's like, sorrygnant pregnant lady wins. And he said

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<v Speaker 1>he sends a gift of like, um, something fair, it

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<v Speaker 1>said someone crying. I think it's not fair. And then

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<v Speaker 1>I set a gift back of like this pregnant lady

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<v Speaker 1>waddling saying this isn't fair either. So I win, but

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<v Speaker 1>then you can. Yeah. So we're walking through. Jane is

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<v Speaker 1>trying to convince me that she's told me that she

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't like Bahitas, and I'm like, no, you've never told

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<v Speaker 1>me that. So we're walking through uh Is. When we

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<v Speaker 1>got back to l A No in the National Airport,

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<v Speaker 1>National Airport, we're walking to her flight and Jan Jane

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<v Speaker 1>was that we didn't get much sleep the previous like

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four hours. Jane is a little loopy and slap happy,

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<v Speaker 1>and Eastern gets your blue button ready. Jane is sitting

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<v Speaker 1>there times like he doesn't hate you. I never liked him.

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<v Speaker 1>And as she's saying that, how much I hate Theahita

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<v Speaker 1>like you know me, like I never I've never acting

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<v Speaker 1>ordered them. I freaking hate them like that, just going

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<v Speaker 1>off almost like I'm yelling at like we're having an argument. Almost. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>But it was all fun and playful, and this lady

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<v Speaker 1>that works for Southwest comes over out of nowhere and

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<v Speaker 1>comes up and was like Pahita and she comes up

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<v Speaker 1>like Jane. She's like, oh hi, oh my gosh, thank

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<v Speaker 1>you so much. Are you're such a sweetheart? Thinker I

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<v Speaker 1>really okay, And then she walks away and then she's like,

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<v Speaker 1>how dare you I have a question about the feta.

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<v Speaker 1>What don't you like about grilled vegetables or grilled chicken?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just gross. I think it's disgusting. And then the

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<v Speaker 1>and then the I like, I like one of those

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<v Speaker 1>things called to like flower tortias, but it has to

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<v Speaker 1>have the crunch tortilla involved with it. What do you mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Then the heart, so I would like justice. Okay, so,

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<v Speaker 1>but I've never liked grilled vegetables with the just steak

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<v Speaker 1>and chicken, like, that's just the grossest. I don't understand

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<v Speaker 1>people that gross. Give me a sizzling plotter of like

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<v Speaker 1>sizzling grilled vegetables. No, I could not be hungry at

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<v Speaker 1>and I smell for he is walking past me and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm hungry. That's so I think they're so gross. Either way,

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<v Speaker 1>I won, and we're getting tacos on Thursday, so it's

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<v Speaker 1>Taco Thursday. I win. Pregnant Lady wins. Sorry, oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but this is also fun. So now you know we're

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<v Speaker 1>going home to like the mom territory. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like Mama's boys going to be back home. Sorry you

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<v Speaker 1>last year Pregnant Pregnant your wife, tacos. It's all going

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<v Speaker 1>to be about jolly anyway. They haven't seen him, Sarah,

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<v Speaker 1>do you have the ring? Bab? No, no, not yet.

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<v Speaker 1>But you did do the ultimatum that we've been in

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<v Speaker 1>intense ten days. When was the last time I was

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<v Speaker 1>with you? Yeah? And serious? How did he react? Um?

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<v Speaker 1>This is the thing. He is the nicest guy ever.

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<v Speaker 1>He literally was like so excited for just the He

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<v Speaker 1>was like that was so awesome, Like good for your voice. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like yeah, but we like shoot on you

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<v Speaker 1>for an hour and a half. Yeah, And he was

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<v Speaker 1>like no, I mean he doesn't care. He's heard worse

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<v Speaker 1>things to his face, you know, like I've said worse

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<v Speaker 1>than her thing. No, he but he got the message.

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<v Speaker 1>So before, like Janna said, before I came out, I

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't wait. I was like yeah, right, And so I

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<v Speaker 1>just was like listen, not a big deal. It wasn't scary,

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't intense. I was like, look, I love you, you

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<v Speaker 1>you love me. I want I want to marry you.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you don't want to marry me, that's totally fine,

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<v Speaker 1>but tell me. And if if you do want to

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<v Speaker 1>marry me, I need a ring. Okay, So are you

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<v Speaker 1>managing your expectations so that you don't Yeah, because, like

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<v Speaker 1>Janna said, it's been six years, I mean almost, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>what's another couple of months? And like again he's just

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<v Speaker 1>well Michael and asked he he's aware that it's Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>just Janna was telling me, you know that she he

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<v Speaker 1>was agreed to the year or whatever. And so is

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<v Speaker 1>it the end of two thousand and eighteen or is

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<v Speaker 1>it a year from now? Oh? No, the end of

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand wedding? Yeah. And even though I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>Janna is like, no, the sumber thirty, like you wait

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<v Speaker 1>it out. You cannot say one more thing? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And I agreed when Jane said that to me, I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, you cannot make a joke. You cannot say

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<v Speaker 1>a single thing, y know the jokes. This is now

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<v Speaker 1>my safe zone. So we will talk about it here.

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<v Speaker 1>sororities today. I can't worry. I am oh boy, Sarah,

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<v Speaker 1>you are an authroity. I was which one alpha kay Omega, Michael,

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<v Speaker 1>were you I mean football is a fraternity? No, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean it is in college athletics. Your team is your

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<v Speaker 1>own fraternity. I mean I got a long had plenty

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<v Speaker 1>of guys that were framed. So no athlete was allowed

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<v Speaker 1>to be in a fraternity. Nots not that they weren't allowed.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't have time for any of that with athletic,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's all caesar and so you have no time

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<v Speaker 1>for where any of your girlfriends and soorities. Yes, my

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<v Speaker 1>college girlfriend was in Oh she was remember I want

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about her anyways. Um, So I didn't hear

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<v Speaker 1>What did you say about sororities? I just don't. I

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<v Speaker 1>just don't get it, Like, I just don't. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>feel like the girls are being honest with their like everybody. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and then it's I just don't get that, Like I'm like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't believe that it's all like unicorns and rainbows

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<v Speaker 1>and skulls. I don't know. I it wasn't my goal

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<v Speaker 1>when I went to college to join authority. It just

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<v Speaker 1>was not me. It was not something I was interested in.

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<v Speaker 1>My mom was in authority, um, and I remember talking

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<v Speaker 1>with her about it and She was like, do you

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<v Speaker 1>want to join authority? And it was like, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think so It's not me and I am a girl's girl.

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<v Speaker 1>I have tons upfront women who are friends. I support them.

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<v Speaker 1>I love all of my girlfriends, and I just I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have time. I really didn't have time. I only

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<v Speaker 1>because I grew up in Texas like everyone and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>everyone does that, but I mostly did it because I

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<v Speaker 1>went to Arizona State and I didn't know anyone, and

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<v Speaker 1>so I was like, what am I gonna do. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>either going to cry my first year or I'm gonna,

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<v Speaker 1>like who knows, end up with a weird crop. So

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I'm just gonna do it, and if

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<v Speaker 1>it goes well, it goes well. You can always drop whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>And how did you get in there? Like what was

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<v Speaker 1>your rush thing? Because that, to me is like dangerous.

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't want Jolie like doing like these crazy rush stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that's why that's I mean, kids die from that.

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<v Speaker 1>They're like, it's like, I don't want I think guys

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<v Speaker 1>are way more intense. I mean I didn't get hated

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<v Speaker 1>by the time I went. I mean they're serious, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they couldn't haze. I didn't get hated at all, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>so there was no bab break. They're cutting down on that.

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<v Speaker 1>I was so media I mean, I mean, you're right,

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<v Speaker 1>like guys have died, you know, being drinking, drinking themselves

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<v Speaker 1>to death, Like nothing like that ever happened. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>they were Arizona State really cracked out. I would not

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<v Speaker 1>say our greek life was booming. I mean, my sister

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<v Speaker 1>went to Alabama. Now that is some greek life. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>will you explain that a little more? What is greek life?

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<v Speaker 1>So I think, oh my god, I don't even know

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<v Speaker 1>the stats, but like let's say at a s U,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd say thirty of the campus were like involved in

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<v Speaker 1>greek life. So that means guys were in fraternity's, girls

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<v Speaker 1>were in sororities that whole. Did you guys have a

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<v Speaker 1>Greek crow? We the guys did, but it got like

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<v Speaker 1>demolished a year later, and like we didn't have Like

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't live in a house. I did not live

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<v Speaker 1>in the sorority house. Like I didn't do any of that. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>my sister, i'd say, at Alabama, I mean, like we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get a lot of hate mail. But I'd say

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<v Speaker 1>maybe like eighty percent. I mean I think everyone on

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<v Speaker 1>that camp it yeah, I mean there was like a

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifty girls in my sorority. I think there

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<v Speaker 1>was like three her Okay, so that's a completely different experience.

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean I have to agree with I forget

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<v Speaker 1>who said it, but they were like, it's just like

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<v Speaker 1>a last name. Like, yeah, I have four sisters in general,

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<v Speaker 1>and we fight like cats and dogs. But at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the day, whatever, you know. But that's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of how sorority was. Was my friends with everyone. No

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<v Speaker 1>did I hate anyone towards the end, but thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for being honest. Oh my god. No, I mean, but

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<v Speaker 1>that's the thing. Like my the girls I met the

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<v Speaker 1>first ten days are still I have two of them

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<v Speaker 1>still my best friends, best friends. So there's that. But

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<v Speaker 1>no do I talk to have no, I know a

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<v Speaker 1>big thing too. Like my school, James Madison, our greek

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<v Speaker 1>life wasn't huge. It was probably under of the school

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<v Speaker 1>was a part of that sorority of fraternity. But from

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<v Speaker 1>the outside looking in, I do understand that it is

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<v Speaker 1>a you know, it is a camaraderie thing where it's

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<v Speaker 1>just like if you meet someone randomly and you figure

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<v Speaker 1>out they went to a s U instantly. It's something

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<v Speaker 1>where if you meet someone that went to that was

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<v Speaker 1>in Cappa Alpha fraternity, you're like, oh, you're in KA

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<v Speaker 1>like I wasn't like, and immediately there's some kind of

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<v Speaker 1>networking there. Especially in the professional world. I hear a

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<v Speaker 1>lot about that from buddies that were in fraternities that's

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<v Speaker 1>helped them a lot. And even i mean one of

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<v Speaker 1>the girls I lived without here, I lived with her

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<v Speaker 1>for the last five years. She was alf Comega at

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<v Speaker 1>ut So it's just things like that where it But no,

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<v Speaker 1>there is a well I'm glad hazing is kind of

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<v Speaker 1>is it done done? I mean, it's still there. But

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<v Speaker 1>I know when I was leaving college, that's when things

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<v Speaker 1>really started cracking down. That was two thousand nine. So

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<v Speaker 1>ever since then, I'm sure I just got even stricter

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<v Speaker 1>and stricter because that's when social media really started ramping

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<v Speaker 1>up and there's more exposure on what was going on

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<v Speaker 1>behind closed doors. So I'm sure there's some that is there,

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean, shoot, even in professional athletics, the hazing

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<v Speaker 1>has decreased since when I was in What do you

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<v Speaker 1>mean rookie hazing though they do that. Yeah, yeah, like

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<v Speaker 1>they do like run around with your pee wee out.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean there were things. It would depend you know.

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<v Speaker 1>The worst of it was, you know, a big thing

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<v Speaker 1>on a lot of teams was rookies are taped to

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<v Speaker 1>the goal post. No no, no, not naked like in

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<v Speaker 1>their paths or whatever. It maybe cold water dumped on

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<v Speaker 1>them or stuff dumped on them. Um. I've seen guys

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<v Speaker 1>like taped up and thrown in the cold tub and

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<v Speaker 1>had um like icy hot rubbed on them or something like.

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<v Speaker 1>That's like the worst. That's like the worst of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>The more of the fun stuff is rookie haircuts. That's

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<v Speaker 1>back when I had hair you know, I did that.

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<v Speaker 1>You'd have to if you you know, I was in

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<v Speaker 1>Jackson in my rookie year, so you had a storm

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<v Speaker 1>come through and you had to go into the locker

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<v Speaker 1>room for a little bit until it cleared. Rookies get

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<v Speaker 1>up and sing, dance off, go, you know, would be

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of stuff. So but still there's still things

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<v Speaker 1>in some professional athletics. There's a kid, you know, guy Miami,

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<v Speaker 1>the head issues with racial a few few old hazing

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<v Speaker 1>that was an issue and so it's out there, but

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's really died down all over the country.

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<v Speaker 1>Which what was your karaoke song? What did I sing? Um?

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<v Speaker 1>I sang oh shy if I ever fall in love

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<v Speaker 1>the acapella song? Yeah, it's because a little bit. You

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<v Speaker 1>gotta pay for that. Come on, let's than for free.

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<v Speaker 1>But you have. The key is to sing a song

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<v Speaker 1>that you know everyone's gonna know, you know, especially you know,

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<v Speaker 1>whites are the are the minority in the professional athletic

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<v Speaker 1>UH room. So you guys saying a song that appeals

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<v Speaker 1>to the brothers a little bit. Well, well, I'm feeling

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<v Speaker 1>very unsafe about this conversation because hazing scares me. But

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<v Speaker 1>family obviously, But I mean I feel real safe when

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<v Speaker 1>a d T. So I wanted to get more insight

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<v Speaker 1>on sororities, especially since after we had the podcast last week,

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<v Speaker 1>we had a sorority outcry. Um, the sisters were running

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<v Speaker 1>away the camaraderie they're banding together. Not all of the

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<v Speaker 1>stories are good, though they're coming together interesting. As I

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<v Speaker 1>read all the emails, will read some on the air,

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<v Speaker 1>but I would say from the hundreds of emails, it

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<v Speaker 1>was very split. As a sorority girl. You know, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>being truthful because I loved every minute of it. They

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<v Speaker 1>were very split people who just didn't like their experience

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<v Speaker 1>at all. Sorry we're trying. Sorry eating cookies at the

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<v Speaker 1>same time. So I would say half loved it, loved it,

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<v Speaker 1>of course it's not perfect, but loved it. The other

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<v Speaker 1>half was divided between people who did it and didn't

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<v Speaker 1>like it, or I thought it was so like Janna

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<v Speaker 1>that they didn't even want to do it. Yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 1>no desire. But what I sometime have a hater, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like I love girls, you would have actually thrived. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I would not have. Girls are so mean and I

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<v Speaker 1>get I'm so sensitive. I there were some bitches, but

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<v Speaker 1>like you literally it's like you find the ones you

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<v Speaker 1>like and then you're good and you don't even there's

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<v Speaker 1>no issue. I'm just too sensitive and I care too

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<v Speaker 1>much about people, what people think about. I do a

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<v Speaker 1>drink in a girl's face, like I do the same,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I did that for one of my sister I

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<v Speaker 1>was m alpha co Omega and the way the way

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<v Speaker 1>that you guys say it, I was a well but like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>it's true, like even like Toria's like I was kept

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<v Speaker 1>cap it. No, I'm definitely in the middle. I loved it.

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<v Speaker 1>But there were I mean there were girls I physically like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I love Honestly, it's too busy going to see bands.

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<v Speaker 1>I was too busy working. Okay, people like I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>go to college, all right, they have. There was a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of scary seniors and what's weird now twenty years

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<v Speaker 1>later is I still know them. And the scary senior

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<v Speaker 1>is like shocked that she was scary. She's like, what

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<v Speaker 1>do you mean like scary? I'm so nice and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>you were so scary, But like I still loved it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that's like part of it. I like the

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<v Speaker 1>front parties. I did go to the front parties. I've

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<v Speaker 1>done a few cug stands. In mind, I don't drink.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the thing I think. I don't drink beer. I've

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<v Speaker 1>never done a sit. I've never drank a full beer.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never been drunk. Like it's just not Michael, please

0:21:53.480 --> 0:21:55.280
<v Speaker 1>do not roll your eyes. I've never been drunk. I've

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<v Speaker 1>never had the spins. I've never thrown up. But there's

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<v Speaker 1>things that you can do in it that are you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like you have a philanthropy, Like there are things that

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<v Speaker 1>like the Bunnies. No, actually actually Alpha Omega was domestic

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<v Speaker 1>violence and we worked. We worked a lot with the

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<v Speaker 1>Phoenix sojourn or Center. But there's things that you can do.

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<v Speaker 1>You could have been president, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>Like there's things that you can do without having to

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<v Speaker 1>be a black you. But if I wasn't president, I'd

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<v Speaker 1>be mad. That's the thing. If I'm not the top,

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<v Speaker 1>then I'm not going to want to do. That's why

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<v Speaker 1>you would have been good, because you would have wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to win. Like I was the vice president of recruitment.

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<v Speaker 1>It was fun, but like so you did all the hazing,

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<v Speaker 1>got it okay, cool, I also okay, well this is

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<v Speaker 1>like boring me. Let's wait, did you only date frat

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<v Speaker 1>boys of course? Well, well I had a frat boy boyfriend,

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<v Speaker 1>but Ty was not in a frat, so I had

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<v Speaker 1>a you were cheating on time. I had a boyfriend

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<v Speaker 1>like sophomore in junior year when he was in a prop. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I lied too because I stated athletes. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so certainly all you shorty girls are liars. Let's talk

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<v Speaker 1>to Robin. So she's on mine twelve right now. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to hear about her experience. Hey, Robin, hi there,

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<v Speaker 1>how are you? Oh good? I just got a room

0:23:17.119 --> 0:23:19.480
<v Speaker 1>full of sorority listeners right now. We just we just

0:23:19.520 --> 0:23:22.239
<v Speaker 1>want to hear the drama and the love, and I

0:23:22.280 --> 0:23:24.600
<v Speaker 1>want to know the good, bad, the ugly and everything else.

0:23:25.560 --> 0:23:29.920
<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, uh oh boy? How long do you have

0:23:31.040 --> 0:23:33.080
<v Speaker 1>tell me that? Tell me the high? Tell me your

0:23:33.160 --> 0:23:36.600
<v Speaker 1>tell me your number one high and your number one low. Okay,

0:23:36.720 --> 0:23:41.240
<v Speaker 1>My high definitely my experience going to small California school,

0:23:42.440 --> 0:23:46.000
<v Speaker 1>and that was amazing, very easy. I didn't realize I

0:23:46.000 --> 0:23:49.119
<v Speaker 1>was supposed to be stressed about it. Everyone got a house,

0:23:49.280 --> 0:23:54.119
<v Speaker 1>everyone was happy where they were super easy. My bad

0:23:54.240 --> 0:23:58.240
<v Speaker 1>experience is I have a daughter who is currently in

0:23:58.320 --> 0:24:02.960
<v Speaker 1>college and a southern university. I don't want, I don't

0:24:02.960 --> 0:24:06.600
<v Speaker 1>want to name any names. But the rust is attended

0:24:06.640 --> 0:24:12.160
<v Speaker 1>by mom. The rush is attended by mom's. Yeah, it's

0:24:12.160 --> 0:24:18.679
<v Speaker 1>a thing. Just generations of sisters terrifying their witches. You

0:24:18.800 --> 0:24:21.679
<v Speaker 1>have rust coaches for at least a year prior to

0:24:21.760 --> 0:24:27.199
<v Speaker 1>rush coached. Stop. So this is where I'm like, ridiculous.

0:24:28.040 --> 0:24:30.679
<v Speaker 1>There's a sorority packet you have to prepare. You can

0:24:30.720 --> 0:24:33.520
<v Speaker 1>go online and order it monogram to different colors with

0:24:33.560 --> 0:24:37.440
<v Speaker 1>the professional photo photos. Why would you let her do this?

0:24:39.240 --> 0:24:41.280
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know it was going to be this bad,

0:24:41.320 --> 0:24:45.480
<v Speaker 1>and everyone else was quote unquote doing it and spreight

0:24:45.520 --> 0:24:48.560
<v Speaker 1>panning hair and makeup. I mean, stop it. This is

0:24:48.600 --> 0:24:54.000
<v Speaker 1>like a insane Okay, then the worst worst parting that

0:24:54.080 --> 0:24:57.960
<v Speaker 1>stuff wasn't the worst part. The worst worst part is

0:24:58.960 --> 0:25:00.640
<v Speaker 1>they go through the whole rust of experience and then

0:25:00.640 --> 0:25:03.000
<v Speaker 1>they have the last days, you know, bid day where

0:25:03.000 --> 0:25:06.200
<v Speaker 1>they get to decide between one or two houses, assuming

0:25:06.200 --> 0:25:08.520
<v Speaker 1>they have that many left, and they bring all the

0:25:08.600 --> 0:25:11.119
<v Speaker 1>girls who are left at this point, a hundred and

0:25:11.119 --> 0:25:14.600
<v Speaker 1>seventy six girls who quit and thirteen and so far

0:25:14.680 --> 0:25:18.679
<v Speaker 1>been cut completely. And as they say, you are going

0:25:18.760 --> 0:25:20.280
<v Speaker 1>to sit on an envelope for an hour while we

0:25:20.359 --> 0:25:22.520
<v Speaker 1>left you about how great story life is. And then

0:25:22.680 --> 0:25:27.200
<v Speaker 1>a crack of five pm, you open your envelope, find

0:25:27.200 --> 0:25:29.720
<v Speaker 1>out which story you got. Some of you might not

0:25:30.000 --> 0:25:31.800
<v Speaker 1>have any that you thought you were gonna have, and

0:25:31.840 --> 0:25:34.480
<v Speaker 1>some of you might have none at all. But either way,

0:25:34.760 --> 0:25:36.960
<v Speaker 1>as soon as you open this, you get to run

0:25:37.000 --> 0:25:39.800
<v Speaker 1>through the middle of campus for thousands of people and

0:25:39.840 --> 0:25:45.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm not joking. TV crews, alumni for Turnity's lying the

0:25:45.119 --> 0:25:48.399
<v Speaker 1>streets come out and watch you run. Even if you

0:25:48.400 --> 0:25:51.399
<v Speaker 1>didn't get a house. The girls are crying they've got nothing.

0:25:51.880 --> 0:25:54.359
<v Speaker 1>They didn't get a house they wanted, or they're beyond thrills.

0:25:54.359 --> 0:25:56.800
<v Speaker 1>They got exactly what they wanted. And those girls are

0:25:57.280 --> 0:25:59.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, the girls that didn't get anything. Off the run,

0:26:00.080 --> 0:26:07.720
<v Speaker 1>the left, the run day Cruel Alabama in the house.

0:26:10.560 --> 0:26:12.600
<v Speaker 1>And then you have to watch your daughter cry and

0:26:12.680 --> 0:26:16.440
<v Speaker 1>run across the field. Oh it's awful. Yeah, my dad

0:26:16.480 --> 0:26:18.400
<v Speaker 1>got with you probably should have gotten but she didn't

0:26:18.400 --> 0:26:21.760
<v Speaker 1>get what she wanted at her top choice, and so

0:26:21.800 --> 0:26:24.679
<v Speaker 1>she was, you know, a complete mass. And so I

0:26:24.760 --> 0:26:27.239
<v Speaker 1>was a complete mass. I'm calling my husband crying, like

0:26:27.600 --> 0:26:29.919
<v Speaker 1>we just can't do This's like this wasn't you resting?

0:26:29.960 --> 0:26:34.880
<v Speaker 1>Remember that? Whatever? How much did it cost? How much

0:26:34.960 --> 0:26:38.960
<v Speaker 1>was the investment to actually get her to that point? Well,

0:26:38.960 --> 0:26:41.240
<v Speaker 1>you mean the flight there, the hotel room, the hair

0:26:41.440 --> 0:26:48.400
<v Speaker 1>and makeup, the clothing, um, a lot. I didn't tell

0:26:48.440 --> 0:26:50.240
<v Speaker 1>my husband how much, but I'm guessing probably like a

0:26:50.240 --> 0:26:53.000
<v Speaker 1>thousand bucks at Leaf, maybe two thousand, and then you

0:26:53.200 --> 0:26:55.119
<v Speaker 1>have paid for the authority. It was this far more

0:26:55.240 --> 0:26:57.720
<v Speaker 1>sense than it was in my day. I just don't

0:26:57.760 --> 0:27:00.240
<v Speaker 1>understand all that. I'm especially like, what if she didn't run,

0:27:00.280 --> 0:27:02.440
<v Speaker 1>would they, like, you know, shoot her in the back

0:27:02.480 --> 0:27:06.240
<v Speaker 1>with an arrow, like you know, like Indians and cowboys days,

0:27:06.280 --> 0:27:08.720
<v Speaker 1>Like if you just run away, you don't, there's no

0:27:08.760 --> 0:27:11.040
<v Speaker 1>way not to run. Everyone's circles you like, you can't,

0:27:11.080 --> 0:27:14.480
<v Speaker 1>you have to run. That's bully, that's that's I think

0:27:14.520 --> 0:27:16.600
<v Speaker 1>those are bullies. Those girls are bullies. Why would you

0:27:16.600 --> 0:27:21.640
<v Speaker 1>want to be like them? Yeah, the other moms are

0:27:21.680 --> 0:27:24.199
<v Speaker 1>like I literally found myself on the last night alone

0:27:24.560 --> 0:27:29.840
<v Speaker 1>in the bar with my head on the barbing rock

0:27:29.920 --> 0:27:36.399
<v Speaker 1>meat bottom, like the vodka, Oh I just nice night.

0:27:36.480 --> 0:27:41.080
<v Speaker 1>Pull southern woman comes over? Is that you, Robin O, Hey,

0:27:41.440 --> 0:27:45.040
<v Speaker 1>how are you don't look well, I'm not really you

0:27:45.040 --> 0:27:47.920
<v Speaker 1>want to know how well, I'm not. You's a crazy

0:27:48.680 --> 0:27:52.200
<v Speaker 1>And but here's the thing. Those moms are sorority girls.

0:27:52.280 --> 0:27:55.240
<v Speaker 1>Those were sisters. So it's like, that's my point. Those

0:27:55.280 --> 0:27:59.760
<v Speaker 1>girls are witches, like they're not good. Is not anything

0:28:00.040 --> 0:28:03.560
<v Speaker 1>I can relate to for the experience I had in California,

0:28:03.680 --> 0:28:05.959
<v Speaker 1>And I'll just say it, I went to Berkeley. I mean,

0:28:06.000 --> 0:28:11.240
<v Speaker 1>it's like the most mellow, different plan so but when

0:28:11.240 --> 0:28:14.800
<v Speaker 1>you go to the more like extreme southern Alabama kind

0:28:14.840 --> 0:28:17.639
<v Speaker 1>of stuff, not saying you're at Alabama, but yeah, I

0:28:17.640 --> 0:28:20.760
<v Speaker 1>mean that's like But again, I guess maybe that's what

0:28:20.840 --> 0:28:24.919
<v Speaker 1>I don't like. That's that's the sorority type. I don't like. Well,

0:28:24.960 --> 0:28:27.560
<v Speaker 1>that's like the stereo. I mean, I say, I did

0:28:27.560 --> 0:28:30.240
<v Speaker 1>not have anything like that, but that's what I thought of.

0:28:30.359 --> 0:28:34.720
<v Speaker 1>You know, when you think of sorority, that's what that's like. Yeah, Robert,

0:28:34.720 --> 0:28:39.160
<v Speaker 1>did you find that any other moms had a lot

0:28:39.240 --> 0:28:40.920
<v Speaker 1>of issues with this or is it something where these

0:28:40.920 --> 0:28:44.800
<v Speaker 1>sorority moms, because they went through that process, they don't

0:28:45.000 --> 0:28:48.760
<v Speaker 1>look at it as negative as it clearly is well.

0:28:48.800 --> 0:28:51.040
<v Speaker 1>For sure, the people who are the southern women whose

0:28:51.080 --> 0:28:54.560
<v Speaker 1>grandma and great grandma or how they seemed a lot

0:28:54.600 --> 0:28:58.240
<v Speaker 1>more comfortable, definitely devastated when their kids didn't make necessarily

0:28:58.320 --> 0:29:01.400
<v Speaker 1>what they wanted. But the way men who are from

0:29:01.600 --> 0:29:05.160
<v Speaker 1>say California or I met some from Idaho in various

0:29:05.160 --> 0:29:08.960
<v Speaker 1>places like that were blown away and super sick about it,

0:29:09.000 --> 0:29:11.480
<v Speaker 1>even if their kids got what they wanted. This experience

0:29:11.520 --> 0:29:13.960
<v Speaker 1>is just it does not feel good. And they actually

0:29:14.000 --> 0:29:16.240
<v Speaker 1>at the school, there's a joke. The day after mid

0:29:16.320 --> 0:29:18.520
<v Speaker 1>day is called you Holliday for all the girls who

0:29:18.640 --> 0:29:25.560
<v Speaker 1>quit school wish when school calm on. It is literally

0:29:25.600 --> 0:29:28.040
<v Speaker 1>a running joke. They had to change the tuition at

0:29:28.040 --> 0:29:30.719
<v Speaker 1>the university to the day before mid day so that

0:29:30.760 --> 0:29:37.200
<v Speaker 1>you pay your tuition leaving. Oh, this is ridiculous. I'm saying.

0:29:37.360 --> 0:29:40.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm just playing the opposite because I was a legacy.

0:29:40.720 --> 0:29:43.240
<v Speaker 1>My mom was in the exact same house I was

0:29:43.280 --> 0:29:45.479
<v Speaker 1>in at the exact same school. We slept in the

0:29:45.520 --> 0:29:50.560
<v Speaker 1>same bedroom, like I mean he did years later my

0:29:50.760 --> 0:29:57.080
<v Speaker 1>Karen elope from the sorority, like they eloped from the Yeah,

0:29:57.200 --> 0:29:59.800
<v Speaker 1>my like was your dad in the front, Yeah, but

0:30:00.080 --> 0:30:01.920
<v Speaker 1>time he was already in law school, and so my

0:30:01.960 --> 0:30:03.560
<v Speaker 1>mom was young and he came and got her from

0:30:03.560 --> 0:30:06.000
<v Speaker 1>the story and people threw Rice out the sothroity windows.

0:30:06.120 --> 0:30:10.600
<v Speaker 1>Stop it. But my experience is nothing like Robin's daughter.

0:30:11.120 --> 0:30:14.680
<v Speaker 1>But unfortunately there are experiences like this that that is.

0:30:14.720 --> 0:30:17.720
<v Speaker 1>What is that? I think to me more typical, yeah,

0:30:17.760 --> 0:30:19.680
<v Speaker 1>than more the norm where it's like, I think maybe

0:30:19.680 --> 0:30:21.920
<v Speaker 1>you had the not typical norm. I think it just

0:30:21.960 --> 0:30:25.320
<v Speaker 1>depends where you go to schools. But but asked Sarah, like,

0:30:25.560 --> 0:30:28.120
<v Speaker 1>did you love it? No, that's what I was saying.

0:30:28.160 --> 0:30:30.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you. I totally loved it, but

0:30:30.320 --> 0:30:34.560
<v Speaker 1>I I went into it knowing I'm obviously out of

0:30:34.600 --> 0:30:37.200
<v Speaker 1>way less intense school, so it's not gonna. I didn't

0:30:37.240 --> 0:30:41.160
<v Speaker 1>take it that seriously. Did your sister in Alabama like it? Oh? Yeah,

0:30:41.200 --> 0:30:44.040
<v Speaker 1>she loved it, But I mean again, she so she

0:30:44.160 --> 0:30:46.280
<v Speaker 1>was a legacy obviously because I was in a sorority.

0:30:46.520 --> 0:30:48.800
<v Speaker 1>She didn't. She got dropped from them because her grades

0:30:48.840 --> 0:30:51.640
<v Speaker 1>weren't good enough. And she's like whatever, Like, you can

0:30:51.680 --> 0:30:53.680
<v Speaker 1>look at it two ways. She's like, yeah, I wasn't smart,

0:30:53.920 --> 0:30:59.040
<v Speaker 1>my grades physically weren't high enough. Sorry, Docca, But she's

0:30:58.560 --> 0:31:03.920
<v Speaker 1>sorry sorry, your sisters, but because everywhere they're different, and

0:31:03.960 --> 0:31:06.760
<v Speaker 1>she's like, whatever, I got dropped? So what she got

0:31:06.760 --> 0:31:11.200
<v Speaker 1>the ring? Yeah she did. And I think that's way

0:31:11.200 --> 0:31:13.800
<v Speaker 1>more intense at at a southern school. I mean all

0:31:13.840 --> 0:31:16.560
<v Speaker 1>of her, all of her sorority sisters are married to

0:31:16.600 --> 0:31:19.680
<v Speaker 1>their little front boy. Like that's like a real thing. Well, Robin,

0:31:19.760 --> 0:31:23.080
<v Speaker 1>how is how is your daughter now? She she loves

0:31:23.080 --> 0:31:25.479
<v Speaker 1>where she is. As far as the stority goes, I mean,

0:31:25.480 --> 0:31:27.480
<v Speaker 1>I think it's a lot to keep up with being

0:31:27.480 --> 0:31:30.360
<v Speaker 1>a California kid. There's just a lot of things have

0:31:30.520 --> 0:31:32.600
<v Speaker 1>to think about and how they threst and what they

0:31:32.640 --> 0:31:36.760
<v Speaker 1>were so critical and my experience in California where I

0:31:36.760 --> 0:31:39.080
<v Speaker 1>think I got up to like two cities wearing shoulder

0:31:39.120 --> 0:31:44.840
<v Speaker 1>paths and like big sweaters and totally different, probably different.

0:31:44.880 --> 0:31:48.200
<v Speaker 1>These girls are all of like supermodels. It's I think

0:31:48.200 --> 0:31:50.080
<v Speaker 1>it it would kill me. I just think it's giving

0:31:50.080 --> 0:31:51.800
<v Speaker 1>out the wrong image of what you have to look

0:31:51.840 --> 0:31:53.440
<v Speaker 1>like and be, especially in this day and age too,

0:31:53.480 --> 0:31:54.960
<v Speaker 1>where it's like I don't want Jolie to have to

0:31:54.960 --> 0:31:56.600
<v Speaker 1>see like, oh I have to look this way, addressed

0:31:56.600 --> 0:31:58.880
<v Speaker 1>this way, post these kind of pictures on social media

0:31:59.200 --> 0:32:01.080
<v Speaker 1>to try to like fit in and be like one

0:32:01.120 --> 0:32:03.400
<v Speaker 1>of those girls. I don't want to. It's not the

0:32:03.520 --> 0:32:06.960
<v Speaker 1>most diverse environment. And that's coming from California, where we

0:32:07.000 --> 0:32:10.160
<v Speaker 1>have complete diversity, where we live. With a bit of

0:32:10.160 --> 0:32:14.680
<v Speaker 1>a shock for my daughter and yeah, well, Robin, I

0:32:14.720 --> 0:32:17.080
<v Speaker 1>appreciate you sharing your story. Tell your daughter. We said

0:32:17.080 --> 0:32:27.320
<v Speaker 1>good luck and uh go Sororities, thanks for having um.

0:32:27.400 --> 0:32:30.840
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<v Speaker 1>daughter guys is going through rush today sweat Julie, are

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<v Speaker 1>you on the line, babe? I am. Your daughter is

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<v Speaker 1>going through the process today. She is, she's rushing today. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>there's orientation tonight, so she has to learn about what

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<v Speaker 1>will be happening over the next week. Are you nervous.

0:34:36.080 --> 0:34:38.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm kind of nervous for her, only because I did

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<v Speaker 1>it a long long time ago, So I am nervous

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<v Speaker 1>for her. What region is she and you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to say the school? She's in Northern California. Did you

0:34:48.000 --> 0:34:52.320
<v Speaker 1>have to do crazy things for rush? Uh? Nothing crazy?

0:34:52.920 --> 0:34:56.200
<v Speaker 1>Just um. You just hit you know, five or six

0:34:56.200 --> 0:35:00.239
<v Speaker 1>houses a day. It was just exhausting and the end

0:35:00.280 --> 0:35:02.319
<v Speaker 1>of the day, Yeah, you kind of had a better

0:35:02.360 --> 0:35:05.239
<v Speaker 1>feel for which house she were leaning towards. In which

0:35:05.760 --> 0:35:10.120
<v Speaker 1>is she leaning towards? Um, I'd say she's leaning towards

0:35:10.960 --> 0:35:14.680
<v Speaker 1>two or three different houses. I'd say, yeah, I don't

0:35:14.680 --> 0:35:18.480
<v Speaker 1>know if you want to know the actual one. Okay,

0:35:18.520 --> 0:35:21.360
<v Speaker 1>one would be Kappa and the other would be probably

0:35:21.480 --> 0:35:24.920
<v Speaker 1>Pi PI. And you were like totally on board when

0:35:24.920 --> 0:35:26.480
<v Speaker 1>she came to and was like, hey, mom, so I

0:35:26.520 --> 0:35:29.959
<v Speaker 1>want to be in a sorority. Oh yeah, definitely, because

0:35:30.000 --> 0:35:33.600
<v Speaker 1>I did it and it was the best time of

0:35:33.680 --> 0:35:37.320
<v Speaker 1>my life. I told her, Yeah, what were the benefits?

0:35:38.600 --> 0:35:42.239
<v Speaker 1>The benefits you mean, Frinch, I'd say, when you're going

0:35:42.280 --> 0:35:46.200
<v Speaker 1>to a new school and you don't really know anyone, uh,

0:35:46.360 --> 0:35:50.520
<v Speaker 1>the first day, you basically are introduced to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>thirty or so girls, at least at the school I

0:35:52.840 --> 0:35:55.919
<v Speaker 1>went to. Those were the girls that you were kind

0:35:55.920 --> 0:35:58.120
<v Speaker 1>of going around with for a week. And I will

0:35:58.120 --> 0:36:02.400
<v Speaker 1>tell you in those for a few days, those girls

0:36:02.400 --> 0:36:05.799
<v Speaker 1>that I met are still my best friends today. Some

0:36:05.920 --> 0:36:07.960
<v Speaker 1>of them went we all went into the same house,

0:36:08.120 --> 0:36:11.000
<v Speaker 1>but um, some of us didn't. But we're all still

0:36:12.160 --> 0:36:14.319
<v Speaker 1>like that, like that's chill. The story that we just

0:36:14.400 --> 0:36:19.120
<v Speaker 1>heard was like frightening, frightening Yeah, oh really yeah, I

0:36:19.160 --> 0:36:20.880
<v Speaker 1>mean just like what they have to do for the

0:36:20.960 --> 0:36:23.040
<v Speaker 1>rush and they're bawling their eyes out and it's like,

0:36:23.120 --> 0:36:25.200
<v Speaker 1>come on, you know. It just seems like I heard

0:36:25.239 --> 0:36:27.360
<v Speaker 1>that we didn't have that though at the school I

0:36:27.360 --> 0:36:31.040
<v Speaker 1>went to. So yeah, but I have heard that. I've

0:36:31.040 --> 0:36:33.600
<v Speaker 1>got friends right now whose daughter did not get into out.

0:36:34.320 --> 0:36:38.439
<v Speaker 1>Let me throw something out. Sorry, sorry to cut you off, Julie. Yeah,

0:36:38.480 --> 0:36:41.359
<v Speaker 1>there is some element to it that is like real life.

0:36:41.680 --> 0:36:45.000
<v Speaker 1>You don't get every job you apply for not everybody

0:36:45.040 --> 0:36:46.719
<v Speaker 1>is going to be your best friend. So I'm just yeah,

0:36:46.760 --> 0:36:49.640
<v Speaker 1>but I don't have But I don't have to play

0:36:49.719 --> 0:36:51.880
<v Speaker 1>stupid games to get a job, do you know what

0:36:51.960 --> 0:36:54.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean? That's like I don't have to like, I

0:36:54.520 --> 0:36:57.319
<v Speaker 1>don't have to do these silly things to get a job.

0:36:57.520 --> 0:37:01.120
<v Speaker 1>But once you're in, like it kind of hold you accountable,

0:37:01.160 --> 0:37:03.040
<v Speaker 1>like you have to have you have to maintain your grades.

0:37:03.080 --> 0:37:06.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean I got put on academic probation because no

0:37:06.440 --> 0:37:08.160
<v Speaker 1>I did. I couldn't go to any of the parties

0:37:08.680 --> 0:37:11.680
<v Speaker 1>because I know, we look, I was there for one

0:37:11.719 --> 0:37:13.719
<v Speaker 1>reason and one reason only. Okay, I was trying to

0:37:13.719 --> 0:37:16.160
<v Speaker 1>have fun and find a husband, and I did of it.

0:37:17.160 --> 0:37:20.080
<v Speaker 1>And that why the girls go to college, literally it

0:37:20.200 --> 0:37:23.320
<v Speaker 1>is to get their mrs de grade. So I think

0:37:23.480 --> 0:37:27.920
<v Speaker 1>that it goes like it did hold me accountable. You know,

0:37:27.960 --> 0:37:30.040
<v Speaker 1>there are like pluses for it, and there are like

0:37:30.160 --> 0:37:32.440
<v Speaker 1>real world issues like you know, if you don't get

0:37:32.480 --> 0:37:34.279
<v Speaker 1>your house or there were girls that had to co

0:37:34.320 --> 0:37:37.600
<v Speaker 1>exist with it. I mean, oh my god, stories, the stories,

0:37:37.640 --> 0:37:41.680
<v Speaker 1>but it teaches you there are some there are some

0:37:41.800 --> 0:37:45.319
<v Speaker 1>life lessons, but then there is symbols out and I'll

0:37:45.320 --> 0:37:48.280
<v Speaker 1>tell you I got one point nine my first semester,

0:37:48.560 --> 0:37:53.399
<v Speaker 1>and I had the best time in my life. However, yeah,

0:37:53.480 --> 0:37:55.919
<v Speaker 1>I didn't get initiated. I would me and one other

0:37:55.920 --> 0:37:58.279
<v Speaker 1>girl at a thirty girl didn't not get initiated and

0:37:58.360 --> 0:38:02.080
<v Speaker 1>had to wait and humiliate did and had to wait

0:38:02.120 --> 0:38:04.080
<v Speaker 1>a whole other months. So the other girls got into

0:38:04.080 --> 0:38:07.080
<v Speaker 1>shape and I didn't. Yeah, they helped me. I think

0:38:07.120 --> 0:38:11.000
<v Speaker 1>I got a point nine one semester. You did not. Yeah,

0:38:11.280 --> 0:38:13.520
<v Speaker 1>it's like two fs and incomplete and like a c

0:38:14.480 --> 0:38:18.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah was that before after you got kicked out? That

0:38:18.200 --> 0:38:20.600
<v Speaker 1>was going on my way and he got kicked out

0:38:20.600 --> 0:38:23.400
<v Speaker 1>of college for first semester. Thanks for bringing that up.

0:38:24.200 --> 0:38:29.240
<v Speaker 1>That will be another Come on, it's a real talk,

0:38:29.360 --> 0:38:32.759
<v Speaker 1>right now, get real talk. Excumely, what will you tell

0:38:32.840 --> 0:38:35.880
<v Speaker 1>your daughter she calls you and she's having a bad

0:38:35.880 --> 0:38:40.919
<v Speaker 1>experience and like gets dropped by houses? Uh, let's see,

0:38:41.080 --> 0:38:44.319
<v Speaker 1>I'll probably tell her just to suck it up? Was

0:38:44.360 --> 0:38:50.080
<v Speaker 1>it meant to be? And there? Yeah? Seriously, I mean,

0:38:50.160 --> 0:38:52.799
<v Speaker 1>we're not a real I don't know, we don't We're

0:38:52.800 --> 0:38:54.640
<v Speaker 1>not that emotional of a family. So I would I

0:38:54.800 --> 0:38:56.680
<v Speaker 1>basically say, well, a girlfriend, they were probably just a

0:38:56.680 --> 0:39:02.240
<v Speaker 1>bunch of bitches. Anyways. Yeah, I like your mama and

0:39:02.440 --> 0:39:04.880
<v Speaker 1>where you'll be will be and make the best of it.

0:39:05.239 --> 0:39:10.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah A men, Sistor, Well, I appreciate your authenticity and

0:39:10.320 --> 0:39:12.479
<v Speaker 1>I wish her luck and we wish her luck today.

0:39:12.520 --> 0:39:14.960
<v Speaker 1>Tell her that the Wine Down Crew wishes her luck.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, thanks, Julie Fight. My question to you guys

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<v Speaker 1>some emails and Marcus here email reader. Thank you a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of sorority emails. I picked out some favorite topic,

0:40:43.320 --> 0:40:45.040
<v Speaker 1>isn't it? And some cons? What would you like first

0:40:45.040 --> 0:40:47.880
<v Speaker 1>to pro or con? I'm a glass half empty, so

0:40:47.960 --> 0:40:51.400
<v Speaker 1>let's go at the con, especially when it comes to sorit.

0:40:52.440 --> 0:40:55.919
<v Speaker 1>Nicole says, my friend was hazed doing terrible things such

0:40:55.920 --> 0:40:58.200
<v Speaker 1>as sitting Indian style, which I believe we now refer

0:40:58.280 --> 0:41:03.080
<v Speaker 1>to as Cris cross apple sauce. Yes, what it's not appropriate.

0:41:03.239 --> 0:41:06.480
<v Speaker 1>Indian style is not appropriated because offensive to Native Americans,

0:41:06.920 --> 0:41:10.000
<v Speaker 1>and Julie will start coming home, and she will because

0:41:10.000 --> 0:41:13.000
<v Speaker 1>they teach it in preschool. Chris cross apple sauce, not

0:41:13.040 --> 0:41:16.160
<v Speaker 1>Indian style. No, absolutely, and you were no longer an

0:41:16.200 --> 0:41:20.520
<v Speaker 1>Indian giver. Although I think Indian summer might be okay,

0:41:20.680 --> 0:41:26.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm a double check that anyway, but no, but I'm sorry,

0:41:26.840 --> 0:41:33.959
<v Speaker 1>just real fast. It's something so politically correct that, you know, Chris,

0:41:33.960 --> 0:41:35.680
<v Speaker 1>and what's wrong with saying like an Indian I think

0:41:35.680 --> 0:41:39.720
<v Speaker 1>they're beautiful sitting Indian style. I think it's beautiful. Who cares?

0:41:40.600 --> 0:41:42.880
<v Speaker 1>But if they gets a stereotype that all the Native

0:41:42.880 --> 0:41:49.000
<v Speaker 1>Americans sit a certain way, you know, like around a campfire, right, correct? Sorry,

0:41:49.040 --> 0:41:51.319
<v Speaker 1>I didn't mean to get us off out of tangent. Well,

0:41:51.880 --> 0:41:54.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm sitting Indian style right now, and I'm very happy

0:41:54.560 --> 0:41:58.160
<v Speaker 1>with it. So this was part of the next week.

0:41:58.280 --> 0:42:01.480
<v Speaker 1>Seven hours she squatted holding bricks, She got screamed at,

0:42:01.719 --> 0:42:03.879
<v Speaker 1>being treated like crap. And then you make it into

0:42:03.880 --> 0:42:06.840
<v Speaker 1>the sorority and now you're best friends with these girls. Um, yeah,

0:42:07.000 --> 0:42:09.880
<v Speaker 1>no thanks. I can make friends without having to do

0:42:09.920 --> 0:42:13.279
<v Speaker 1>these terrible things and not talking crap behind each other's backs. Yeah, right,

0:42:13.320 --> 0:42:15.120
<v Speaker 1>A big group of girls and no one talks crap.

0:42:15.160 --> 0:42:19.480
<v Speaker 1>That's bull. These girls talk so much assets unreal. Eventually

0:42:19.640 --> 0:42:21.799
<v Speaker 1>you go to college with no friends and you buy

0:42:21.840 --> 0:42:24.799
<v Speaker 1>your friendships. Not for me. Now, if there was really

0:42:24.840 --> 0:42:27.279
<v Speaker 1>a sorority, there was candy in presence, then signed me up.

0:42:27.360 --> 0:42:29.360
<v Speaker 1>You guys are awesome. Love the show and Jeanne, I

0:42:29.400 --> 0:42:31.560
<v Speaker 1>love how down to earth you are and although you

0:42:31.560 --> 0:42:34.160
<v Speaker 1>are a celebrity, you seem so real. All right, I

0:42:34.200 --> 0:42:38.480
<v Speaker 1>love her, I love her. She's great. But by the way,

0:42:39.160 --> 0:42:43.040
<v Speaker 1>like that sounds awful. Never can you imagine? I haven't either,

0:42:43.120 --> 0:42:46.759
<v Speaker 1>I experience. I've seen it in the movies to the

0:42:46.800 --> 0:42:48.959
<v Speaker 1>meanest thing that happened to me was one girl asked

0:42:48.960 --> 0:42:51.359
<v Speaker 1>if I could spell her last name, which I can

0:42:52.040 --> 0:42:56.319
<v Speaker 1>can to these two ways to else. Can you sell

0:42:56.360 --> 0:43:01.480
<v Speaker 1>my listening? I'm just kidding, Yeah I can. Well, that's insane.

0:43:02.480 --> 0:43:05.600
<v Speaker 1>Let's let's cleanse our palates with Jessica. Jessica says I

0:43:05.640 --> 0:43:15.400
<v Speaker 1>was in a sorority in college Alpha Kay Omega anyone Lights.

0:43:15.440 --> 0:43:17.799
<v Speaker 1>She says, yes, there was drama, but I met four

0:43:17.840 --> 0:43:20.080
<v Speaker 1>best friends. We all graduated in two thousand nine and

0:43:20.120 --> 0:43:22.239
<v Speaker 1>went are separate ways. There have been five of us

0:43:22.320 --> 0:43:24.920
<v Speaker 1>living in four states, and we've gone months without talking.

0:43:25.360 --> 0:43:27.480
<v Speaker 1>Two thousand and sixteen, we had a girl's reunion weekend

0:43:27.480 --> 0:43:30.640
<v Speaker 1>in Chicago and there were two kids. All five of

0:43:30.719 --> 0:43:33.560
<v Speaker 1>us had babies. It's been the most amazing experience of

0:43:33.600 --> 0:43:35.680
<v Speaker 1>my life. This mama tribe is so important to me,

0:43:35.719 --> 0:43:38.120
<v Speaker 1>and I would never have met these friends without the sorority.

0:43:38.520 --> 0:43:46.680
<v Speaker 1>Sarah's goose, I'm so embarrassing. We are all always there

0:43:46.719 --> 0:43:50.360
<v Speaker 1>for each other, from the beginning, through miscarriages, struggles to

0:43:50.360 --> 0:43:52.920
<v Speaker 1>get pregnant, now horror stories of teething and toddler is

0:43:52.960 --> 0:43:55.440
<v Speaker 1>going crazy. Yeah, there was some drama and girls I

0:43:55.440 --> 0:43:57.239
<v Speaker 1>didn't get along with in college, but I love them

0:43:57.239 --> 0:43:59.000
<v Speaker 1>all and I love watching them grow on their lives

0:43:59.040 --> 0:44:01.279
<v Speaker 1>even though we were not ends. Then there's a bond

0:44:01.320 --> 0:44:04.600
<v Speaker 1>that will never be broken. Well that's sweet, Jessica. They're

0:44:04.640 --> 0:44:08.880
<v Speaker 1>like double tapping on every install photo that they post.

0:44:09.200 --> 0:44:11.880
<v Speaker 1>And what's even funnier is like the girls that like you,

0:44:11.920 --> 0:44:15.319
<v Speaker 1>weren't friends with. Yeah, I see them like right on

0:44:15.400 --> 0:44:20.040
<v Speaker 1>Janice pictures stop, So they're still there even though they're

0:44:20.080 --> 0:44:23.840
<v Speaker 1>still talking you. Oh they're talking you but like you,

0:44:24.520 --> 0:44:30.400
<v Speaker 1>And they're like are they happy? Maybe no, they're jealous. Friend,

0:44:33.080 --> 0:44:35.040
<v Speaker 1>Let's swing back the other way. This is another jest

0:44:35.160 --> 0:44:37.759
<v Speaker 1>with her nightmare experience. I was in a chapter for

0:44:37.800 --> 0:44:39.719
<v Speaker 1>about six months before I started dating a guy in

0:44:39.760 --> 0:44:41.719
<v Speaker 1>a fraternity at my same school. He was in a

0:44:41.800 --> 0:44:44.560
<v Speaker 1>leadership position in his frat. I was running for VP

0:44:44.640 --> 0:44:47.560
<v Speaker 1>and mine six months later, I was VP and in

0:44:47.640 --> 0:44:50.320
<v Speaker 1>charge of our recruitment, but also second hand to our president.

0:44:50.880 --> 0:44:52.799
<v Speaker 1>I even with that guy for a while now, and

0:44:52.840 --> 0:44:55.400
<v Speaker 1>I loved him. So one day I'm on his computer

0:44:55.440 --> 0:44:57.200
<v Speaker 1>doing some homework and saw a text come from one

0:44:57.239 --> 0:45:00.640
<v Speaker 1>of his friends that read, did you do her? I

0:45:00.719 --> 0:45:03.239
<v Speaker 1>clicked on it and read the text beoot him his friend,

0:45:03.239 --> 0:45:05.400
<v Speaker 1>and I found that he had slept with the current

0:45:05.440 --> 0:45:08.879
<v Speaker 1>president of my sorority, who blatantly knew of my relationship

0:45:09.440 --> 0:45:11.560
<v Speaker 1>and took pictures of her naked and sent them to

0:45:11.600 --> 0:45:14.799
<v Speaker 1>his friends in his fraternity. I left his place with

0:45:14.840 --> 0:45:17.680
<v Speaker 1>no explanation, and I waited till my sorority's next chapter meeting,

0:45:17.880 --> 0:45:19.960
<v Speaker 1>where I called out the president for her character and

0:45:19.960 --> 0:45:23.040
<v Speaker 1>tried to have her removed as president. My plan was

0:45:23.080 --> 0:45:25.040
<v Speaker 1>to drop the sorority, because why would I want to

0:45:25.040 --> 0:45:26.840
<v Speaker 1>be a part of something where the women don't respect

0:45:26.880 --> 0:45:29.879
<v Speaker 1>their sisterhood. The whole soroity thing is bs and click

0:45:29.920 --> 0:45:32.960
<v Speaker 1>oriented and not worth the time and money. But y'all

0:45:33.040 --> 0:45:38.319
<v Speaker 1>her sisters. No, that's actually that that's screwed up. That's

0:45:38.320 --> 0:45:41.280
<v Speaker 1>a rough one. And finally Aaron and then a positive

0:45:41.280 --> 0:45:44.759
<v Speaker 1>shout out to Amy for defending sorority girls. Mine was big.

0:45:44.800 --> 0:45:46.600
<v Speaker 1>There were girls that didn't like my pled class with

0:45:46.640 --> 0:45:49.239
<v Speaker 1>sixty five plus girls, not everyone got along, but I

0:45:49.239 --> 0:45:51.200
<v Speaker 1>held a special place in my heart for each and

0:45:51.239 --> 0:45:55.719
<v Speaker 1>every Kappa Alpha Theta. The experiences and life lessons gave

0:45:55.800 --> 0:45:57.800
<v Speaker 1>me something I would never take back for a second.

0:45:57.800 --> 0:45:59.440
<v Speaker 1>And by the way, you don't have to drink or

0:45:59.440 --> 0:46:01.680
<v Speaker 1>get drunk to in a sorority. I did plenty of

0:46:01.680 --> 0:46:04.600
<v Speaker 1>sober activities with my sisters. My sorority was being known

0:46:04.800 --> 0:46:07.600
<v Speaker 1>as the smart girls on campus with the highest gp

0:46:07.680 --> 0:46:09.839
<v Speaker 1>A for fifteen years in a row. To each their own,

0:46:10.120 --> 0:46:14.560
<v Speaker 1>but don't knock it. I won't knock it. And one

0:46:14.680 --> 0:46:17.480
<v Speaker 1>last thing, you know, now that we're I had friends,

0:46:17.560 --> 0:46:21.000
<v Speaker 1>Like one of my best girlfriends was in a different sorority,

0:46:21.200 --> 0:46:23.320
<v Speaker 1>and so, I mean, I don't know if that happens everywhere,

0:46:23.320 --> 0:46:25.799
<v Speaker 1>but that's what I liked. You know, I didn't just

0:46:25.920 --> 0:46:29.520
<v Speaker 1>have to be with you know, Rachel was a d G. Okay,

0:46:29.719 --> 0:46:33.640
<v Speaker 1>other Rachel was a data so still friends with Rachel's.

0:46:33.920 --> 0:46:36.839
<v Speaker 1>I just actually was in San Francisco had coffee with her.

0:46:36.880 --> 0:46:39.080
<v Speaker 1>But again, I don't know if that's everywhere, you know,

0:46:39.360 --> 0:46:40.799
<v Speaker 1>but because you might not be able to go out,

0:46:41.160 --> 0:46:43.040
<v Speaker 1>you might. Yeah, but I love that that, you know,

0:46:43.120 --> 0:46:45.920
<v Speaker 1>we could kind of vent about our tribes to other tribes.

0:46:46.120 --> 0:46:49.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm glad people have had great experiences. I'm

0:46:49.080 --> 0:46:51.520
<v Speaker 1>sorry for the ones that have had have had bad.

0:46:51.719 --> 0:46:53.759
<v Speaker 1>But I think that's that's the part that I just

0:46:54.280 --> 0:46:57.960
<v Speaker 1>I can't get on board, you know. Sometimes I you know,

0:46:58.080 --> 0:46:59.759
<v Speaker 1>it would it be fun to go do like an

0:47:00.000 --> 0:47:03.839
<v Speaker 1>speriment and go spend like a week with Mirity. Yeah,

0:47:03.880 --> 0:47:06.439
<v Speaker 1>and that'd be I actually would like I've always wanted

0:47:06.480 --> 0:47:09.040
<v Speaker 1>to do that, like to go back to like either

0:47:09.200 --> 0:47:14.480
<v Speaker 1>high school or college and like t like that. Um,

0:47:14.520 --> 0:47:19.760
<v Speaker 1>I haven't even for Sarah, this is not frat related,

0:47:19.840 --> 0:47:24.600
<v Speaker 1>sorority related by sisters. Yeah, Jamie says, I'm in a

0:47:24.640 --> 0:47:27.759
<v Speaker 1>similar situation is Sarah. But I'm thirty four. We've been

0:47:27.760 --> 0:47:30.520
<v Speaker 1>together only two years. My boyfriend is forty two divorced.

0:47:30.880 --> 0:47:33.880
<v Speaker 1>We've lived together over a year. When we first got together,

0:47:33.920 --> 0:47:36.600
<v Speaker 1>he said, twelve months. Then when a year came and

0:47:36.600 --> 0:47:38.279
<v Speaker 1>went I had no ring. I brought it up again.

0:47:38.320 --> 0:47:41.160
<v Speaker 1>He said eighteen months. Again, six more months, no ring.

0:47:41.680 --> 0:47:43.680
<v Speaker 1>When or two year anniversary rolled around, I set him

0:47:43.680 --> 0:47:45.279
<v Speaker 1>down and I said to him, I gave up having

0:47:45.320 --> 0:47:47.680
<v Speaker 1>a second child for you. I will not give up marriage.

0:47:47.880 --> 0:47:49.799
<v Speaker 1>It is not too late for me. So if you

0:47:49.800 --> 0:47:51.359
<v Speaker 1>don't plan on putting a ring on in the next

0:47:51.360 --> 0:47:54.760
<v Speaker 1>twelve months, you tell me right now. He was scared.

0:47:55.080 --> 0:47:57.719
<v Speaker 1>He said he would absolutely propose to me in the

0:47:57.719 --> 0:48:00.560
<v Speaker 1>next six months. So now I'm enjoying the as a patient.

0:48:00.800 --> 0:48:03.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm keeping my hair, skin and nails looking good looking

0:48:04.160 --> 0:48:06.640
<v Speaker 1>every holiday, birthday and the event we have coming up.

0:48:06.840 --> 0:48:09.080
<v Speaker 1>Her man is not stupid. He chose her and he

0:48:09.120 --> 0:48:11.160
<v Speaker 1>will not let her go. I hope she gets everything

0:48:11.239 --> 0:48:15.239
<v Speaker 1>she deserves it more YouTube Jana whatever, Wait, what do

0:48:15.280 --> 0:48:21.399
<v Speaker 1>we call your fans? Like the downs? Like oh my god,

0:48:21.480 --> 0:48:24.280
<v Speaker 1>the love? Yeah, you got a lot, I got a lot.

0:48:24.760 --> 0:48:27.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean that was no joke. And I don't know.

0:48:28.000 --> 0:48:31.200
<v Speaker 1>I feel like I got so many messages that were

0:48:31.239 --> 0:48:33.279
<v Speaker 1>like that that We're like, I've been with him for

0:48:33.360 --> 0:48:34.960
<v Speaker 1>nine and I've been with him for seven. I've been

0:48:35.000 --> 0:48:36.640
<v Speaker 1>with him for eight, and I think that just kind

0:48:36.640 --> 0:48:38.759
<v Speaker 1>of made me realize. Okay, I don't. I don't want

0:48:38.760 --> 0:48:41.160
<v Speaker 1>that to be me. Just make sure you keep your

0:48:41.200 --> 0:48:45.520
<v Speaker 1>nails looking nice. This is a great engagement color. Do

0:48:45.560 --> 0:48:47.239
<v Speaker 1>you know why I was thinking that? Is that like

0:48:47.320 --> 0:48:50.160
<v Speaker 1>bubble gum? Something is? And I actually told Tigo just

0:48:50.200 --> 0:48:53.200
<v Speaker 1>for the record, if they're hot pink, you better you

0:48:53.239 --> 0:48:55.279
<v Speaker 1>better call someone. Someone better take me to get my

0:48:55.480 --> 0:48:57.960
<v Speaker 1>He's like, what's wrong? I go, I didn't wait this

0:48:58.000 --> 0:48:59.960
<v Speaker 1>long to have hot pink nails. Who's gonna be here for?

0:49:00.000 --> 0:49:03.040
<v Speaker 1>Is called when you get engaged? I don't know, because

0:49:03.080 --> 0:49:05.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm hoping that like, and are you going to post

0:49:05.680 --> 0:49:08.240
<v Speaker 1>a picture before you tell people? You have to? Please

0:49:08.280 --> 0:49:10.520
<v Speaker 1>just tell me first before you put out. No, I'm

0:49:10.520 --> 0:49:12.759
<v Speaker 1>not gonna put it for like a moment, because this

0:49:12.960 --> 0:49:15.600
<v Speaker 1>I feel like this is something that like I want

0:49:15.680 --> 0:49:18.600
<v Speaker 1>us to be like get our moment. Have you thought

0:49:18.600 --> 0:49:20.760
<v Speaker 1>about the kind of picture that you wanted to post?

0:49:21.000 --> 0:49:23.839
<v Speaker 1>Because it should be I mean, it should she lives

0:49:23.840 --> 0:49:27.040
<v Speaker 1>her life like a Kardashian or you want to that's

0:49:27.080 --> 0:49:28.440
<v Speaker 1>like it's like you know what I mean. I think

0:49:28.440 --> 0:49:31.239
<v Speaker 1>it should be like like holding a hockey puck, but

0:49:31.360 --> 0:49:34.480
<v Speaker 1>that's hilarious, But no, like a glass of champagne or

0:49:34.520 --> 0:49:38.640
<v Speaker 1>just drinking cop on the Sunday morning. Oh, you're not

0:49:38.800 --> 0:49:42.160
<v Speaker 1>really telling people, but people are like like where they

0:49:42.280 --> 0:49:48.319
<v Speaker 1>just like oh, I think so, it's not like I

0:49:48.360 --> 0:49:52.920
<v Speaker 1>hate the single ring or like him like right, oh

0:49:53.000 --> 0:49:56.160
<v Speaker 1>please no no no no no no no no. I

0:49:56.200 --> 0:49:58.920
<v Speaker 1>have a question for you though, because I was wondering

0:49:58.960 --> 0:50:01.879
<v Speaker 1>about this, because we are obsessed with the Kardashians so much.

0:50:02.080 --> 0:50:04.759
<v Speaker 1>Do you want the extravagant proposal? Like what what would

0:50:04.760 --> 0:50:07.120
<v Speaker 1>it be your dream propose? I know when I heard so,

0:50:08.040 --> 0:50:11.319
<v Speaker 1>I think now, to be honest, I'm just happy. I'm

0:50:11.360 --> 0:50:13.200
<v Speaker 1>just gonna be happy to get it. I don't want

0:50:13.200 --> 0:50:15.120
<v Speaker 1>it to be in public, and I don't know if

0:50:15.120 --> 0:50:17.440
<v Speaker 1>I want like a big extravagant thing, because that's not

0:50:17.560 --> 0:50:20.600
<v Speaker 1>him and it's not really I mean when I helped

0:50:20.600 --> 0:50:23.040
<v Speaker 1>plan my sisters, he did it in her house and

0:50:23.040 --> 0:50:26.359
<v Speaker 1>then we were all like the people there. I think

0:50:26.400 --> 0:50:28.840
<v Speaker 1>I've always said, like, I just it's a celebrate. I

0:50:28.880 --> 0:50:31.040
<v Speaker 1>want to celebrate, like I want to party, especially for

0:50:31.120 --> 0:50:33.920
<v Speaker 1>waiting this long, Like I want us to be surrounded

0:50:33.960 --> 0:50:36.319
<v Speaker 1>and have fun. After My friends are like, that's so weird,

0:50:36.360 --> 0:50:38.479
<v Speaker 1>why would you want us involved? I'm like because we've

0:50:38.520 --> 0:50:41.239
<v Speaker 1>all been in this together, you know, like this is

0:50:41.239 --> 0:50:43.920
<v Speaker 1>something I want everyone. I don't know, but I mean,

0:50:43.960 --> 0:50:45.840
<v Speaker 1>like honestly, like if we were in bed and he

0:50:45.920 --> 0:50:50.040
<v Speaker 1>just like, I'd be happy, Well I have something in

0:50:50.080 --> 0:50:53.080
<v Speaker 1>my pillow case, you would be so. But I don't

0:50:53.080 --> 0:50:54.600
<v Speaker 1>want it to be like in public, like I do

0:50:54.680 --> 0:50:56.440
<v Speaker 1>not want to be like you don't want to hear

0:50:56.480 --> 0:51:02.400
<v Speaker 1>online right here? No, not dinner or not public. I

0:51:02.440 --> 0:51:04.120
<v Speaker 1>don't know what am I saying. I don't even know.

0:51:04.360 --> 0:51:06.760
<v Speaker 1>You don't want Janna to pull you guys up on stage?

0:51:09.239 --> 0:51:11.759
<v Speaker 1>She would die. I mean, it only feels right that

0:51:11.840 --> 0:51:13.560
<v Speaker 1>Jenna was there because I mean, I feel like she's

0:51:13.600 --> 0:51:15.960
<v Speaker 1>really got the ball rolling I do, you've really put

0:51:15.960 --> 0:51:18.120
<v Speaker 1>this emotion. I'm the one that grabbing his balls. No,

0:51:18.280 --> 0:51:20.239
<v Speaker 1>you are what are you doing? No? I actually kind

0:51:20.239 --> 0:51:22.279
<v Speaker 1>of felt I felt, I mean, I've never done this.

0:51:22.320 --> 0:51:23.600
<v Speaker 1>So when the podcast came out, I was like a

0:51:23.640 --> 0:51:27.080
<v Speaker 1>little nervous, and then I was like, you know what,

0:51:27.080 --> 0:51:30.120
<v Speaker 1>what's what's there? If this is meant to be, it's

0:51:30.160 --> 0:51:31.719
<v Speaker 1>meant to be and I'm having a voice and I'm

0:51:31.800 --> 0:51:33.800
<v Speaker 1>using it. And then when all those people started texting

0:51:33.800 --> 0:51:36.200
<v Speaker 1>me and jamming me, I was like, it's all, it

0:51:36.239 --> 0:51:39.239
<v Speaker 1>all makes sense, like there's nothing to be ashamed of.

0:51:39.520 --> 0:51:41.799
<v Speaker 1>I was like, really, I'm like, I'm having everyone come

0:51:41.800 --> 0:51:43.160
<v Speaker 1>out here to listen to me say I can't get

0:51:43.160 --> 0:51:46.799
<v Speaker 1>my boyfriend to marry me. But yeah, I'm like, it's nothing. Hey,

0:51:46.840 --> 0:51:50.160
<v Speaker 1>switching gears a second. Um, do you guys? Maybe this

0:51:50.239 --> 0:51:52.120
<v Speaker 1>is because I'm I want to I want to talk

0:51:52.160 --> 0:51:53.680
<v Speaker 1>about this, but I like don't want to talk about

0:51:53.680 --> 0:51:56.279
<v Speaker 1>because I'm scared if maybe the person is listening. But

0:51:57.040 --> 0:52:00.400
<v Speaker 1>do you guys have a friend that you had? It's like,

0:52:00.600 --> 0:52:03.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't know preschool, it could be like a childhood friend,

0:52:04.040 --> 0:52:08.319
<v Speaker 1>but you've grown apart, but you kind of but you

0:52:08.360 --> 0:52:10.719
<v Speaker 1>were still like it was your best friend in high

0:52:10.760 --> 0:52:12.920
<v Speaker 1>school as your best friend. But it's like, but do

0:52:12.960 --> 0:52:14.960
<v Speaker 1>you have to be best friends now? I just talked

0:52:14.960 --> 0:52:18.319
<v Speaker 1>to her last night. Really, I've known her since I

0:52:18.400 --> 0:52:21.520
<v Speaker 1>was four. She was my first friend. She's my best friend.

0:52:22.120 --> 0:52:26.000
<v Speaker 1>We've gone through some years where we didn't talk at all,

0:52:26.719 --> 0:52:29.720
<v Speaker 1>but our friendship as soon as we reconnect, you always

0:52:29.719 --> 0:52:34.399
<v Speaker 1>picked up exactly. It's like no time has passed. I

0:52:34.440 --> 0:52:37.719
<v Speaker 1>know her better than her sisters know her, and she

0:52:37.840 --> 0:52:41.120
<v Speaker 1>knows me better than my sisters will ever know me.

0:52:41.920 --> 0:52:44.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean, we've met in it. We lived together in college.

0:52:44.600 --> 0:52:49.480
<v Speaker 1>We did she put an effort though she has two kids,

0:52:49.600 --> 0:52:52.759
<v Speaker 1>and she lives in Matro Detroit, and we lived very

0:52:52.920 --> 0:52:59.040
<v Speaker 1>very different lives, very different lives. Um, we both put in.

0:52:59.680 --> 0:53:02.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to say we talked to each other on

0:53:02.040 --> 0:53:05.680
<v Speaker 1>the phone maybe two or three times a year. Um.

0:53:07.000 --> 0:53:10.799
<v Speaker 1>But we we are active on social media, so we

0:53:10.880 --> 0:53:14.400
<v Speaker 1>know whatever what we're doing. And and I love her

0:53:14.440 --> 0:53:16.520
<v Speaker 1>more than anything. And to get a call from her

0:53:16.600 --> 0:53:20.719
<v Speaker 1>last night, it was awesome. And I was thinking about

0:53:20.719 --> 0:53:24.919
<v Speaker 1>her thirty minutes before she called. When you have an

0:53:24.920 --> 0:53:27.480
<v Speaker 1>old friend that you're not friends with anymore, well, it's

0:53:27.520 --> 0:53:29.960
<v Speaker 1>not that we're not friends anymore. It's because I have

0:53:30.160 --> 0:53:32.440
<v Speaker 1>I have plenty of friends where you know, I have

0:53:32.560 --> 0:53:34.920
<v Speaker 1>I have a one of my skating girlfriend's Missy, Like

0:53:35.200 --> 0:53:37.319
<v Speaker 1>we've always been friends. We pick up where we leave

0:53:37.320 --> 0:53:40.239
<v Speaker 1>off every time I've seen her. I mean, there's I

0:53:40.320 --> 0:53:42.080
<v Speaker 1>have plenty of friends like that. I mean, just like

0:53:42.120 --> 0:53:44.120
<v Speaker 1>my friend jen Wayne, she's you know, she was a

0:53:44.160 --> 0:53:46.560
<v Speaker 1>bridesmaid in my wedding. I don't talk to her much

0:53:46.600 --> 0:53:49.960
<v Speaker 1>because she's she's in runaway. June she's always on the road. Um,

0:53:50.000 --> 0:53:52.320
<v Speaker 1>but I know what she's doing obviously, like from social media,

0:53:52.400 --> 0:53:54.680
<v Speaker 1>and we always pick up where we leave off. But

0:53:54.800 --> 0:53:59.040
<v Speaker 1>I have this one girlfriend where when we've been friends

0:53:59.080 --> 0:54:03.200
<v Speaker 1>since middle school, but god, I'm like, I'm like, oh

0:54:03.280 --> 0:54:05.000
<v Speaker 1>my god, I'm I stepping into like a dog pile

0:54:05.120 --> 0:54:08.840
<v Speaker 1>right now of like stuff. But everyone can ye everyone,

0:54:09.239 --> 0:54:17.919
<v Speaker 1>it's just setting it up. She didn't. She didn't call

0:54:18.000 --> 0:54:21.600
<v Speaker 1>me or text me when I had my two miscarriages

0:54:21.680 --> 0:54:26.040
<v Speaker 1>last year. She didn't, you know, text me when she

0:54:26.360 --> 0:54:29.040
<v Speaker 1>found out that I was because it said, here's the thing, Like,

0:54:29.080 --> 0:54:32.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean, did I call people like I? Yess? I

0:54:32.239 --> 0:54:34.040
<v Speaker 1>told some of my Nashville girls that I had a miscarriage.

0:54:34.040 --> 0:54:36.200
<v Speaker 1>I told you Sarah that had miscarriage, you know, and

0:54:36.200 --> 0:54:38.480
<v Speaker 1>then I posted online. I know she's on social media,

0:54:38.760 --> 0:54:40.839
<v Speaker 1>but you would think that someone that you have been

0:54:40.920 --> 0:54:44.280
<v Speaker 1>best friends with since since middle school would have reached

0:54:44.320 --> 0:54:46.319
<v Speaker 1>out and been like, I don't care how busy you

0:54:46.360 --> 0:54:50.799
<v Speaker 1>are with your two kids and your job. It hurt

0:54:50.880 --> 0:54:53.160
<v Speaker 1>my feelings that you didn't reach out. Also, I've always

0:54:53.239 --> 0:54:58.680
<v Speaker 1>felt like she reached out for something like and it's

0:54:58.719 --> 0:55:00.400
<v Speaker 1>like and maybe because I'm not, I go I go,

0:55:00.480 --> 0:55:02.880
<v Speaker 1>I bet you the second I am on something again,

0:55:02.960 --> 0:55:05.840
<v Speaker 1>she will reach out. And the second that you know

0:55:05.880 --> 0:55:07.920
<v Speaker 1>I did, family feuders like, oh my god, I'm like,

0:55:08.080 --> 0:55:11.719
<v Speaker 1>of course, why are you just attracted now to my

0:55:11.840 --> 0:55:16.120
<v Speaker 1>personality as opposed to now like me and I think

0:55:16.120 --> 0:55:19.040
<v Speaker 1>like we had a little bit of like a you know,

0:55:19.280 --> 0:55:21.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't think she understood why I took Mike back.

0:55:21.120 --> 0:55:23.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't think her husband like that I took Mike back,

0:55:23.280 --> 0:55:26.520
<v Speaker 1>but it was and maybe that was the strain there,

0:55:26.640 --> 0:55:31.600
<v Speaker 1>but there was never like I have such deeper relationships

0:55:31.640 --> 0:55:35.000
<v Speaker 1>now with other people that I'm like, but why do

0:55:35.080 --> 0:55:36.640
<v Speaker 1>I keep calling her my best friend? And I don't

0:55:36.680 --> 0:55:39.160
<v Speaker 1>think that's my best friend anymore. She's not being a

0:55:39.200 --> 0:55:41.600
<v Speaker 1>bust friend to you, so she's not your best friend.

0:55:41.840 --> 0:55:44.400
<v Speaker 1>Let's come out from another perspective, because that's always the

0:55:44.400 --> 0:55:46.160
<v Speaker 1>best way to do it. So now you have to

0:55:46.200 --> 0:55:49.319
<v Speaker 1>really look deep in yourself. Do you reach out to

0:55:49.400 --> 0:55:52.879
<v Speaker 1>her with whatever? I've tried? But she doesn't go deep.

0:55:52.960 --> 0:55:54.560
<v Speaker 1>That's the thing, Like I'd be like, how are you

0:55:54.640 --> 0:55:58.239
<v Speaker 1>and you know your husband and she doesn't ever go

0:55:58.320 --> 0:56:00.960
<v Speaker 1>It's like, oh it's great. It's like I want relationships now.

0:56:01.000 --> 0:56:04.240
<v Speaker 1>I don't want just the like, well, some people are

0:56:04.360 --> 0:56:08.239
<v Speaker 1>ar cakes and rainbows, and it's so that might have

0:56:08.400 --> 0:56:10.319
<v Speaker 1>you're dealing with, which is why it's hard for her

0:56:10.480 --> 0:56:14.239
<v Speaker 1>to come to you. But she's never been that like

0:56:14.360 --> 0:56:16.200
<v Speaker 1>kind of like. But I mean, all I really know

0:56:16.320 --> 0:56:18.520
<v Speaker 1>is from high school because after high school I moved

0:56:18.520 --> 0:56:21.239
<v Speaker 1>to New York in the l A. So. And then

0:56:21.239 --> 0:56:23.479
<v Speaker 1>from then it was just whenever she came out to visit.

0:56:23.840 --> 0:56:25.880
<v Speaker 1>She's still in the Midwest. She's still in the Midwest.

0:56:25.960 --> 0:56:29.839
<v Speaker 1>You know, I've heard she's quitting your job. Jealous. You know,

0:56:29.920 --> 0:56:31.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't think she's jealous, but no, but I mean

0:56:31.920 --> 0:56:34.279
<v Speaker 1>the second that I was on you know, one of

0:56:34.280 --> 0:56:36.720
<v Speaker 1>her favorite shows, was she here like gung ho Blazing,

0:56:36.800 --> 0:56:39.560
<v Speaker 1>Like of course, But when you guys were in high school,

0:56:40.080 --> 0:56:42.799
<v Speaker 1>did you what was the relationship? I mean, we're best

0:56:42.880 --> 0:56:45.080
<v Speaker 1>is but what kind of I mean, like again, like

0:56:45.160 --> 0:56:47.439
<v Speaker 1>you grow so much from like high school to where

0:56:47.480 --> 0:56:50.520
<v Speaker 1>we are now, so it's like yeah, and it's like

0:56:51.000 --> 0:56:53.200
<v Speaker 1>now I'm you know, I'm calling you know, I'm calling

0:56:53.239 --> 0:56:55.799
<v Speaker 1>you guys, I'm calling my my friends in Nashville. And

0:56:55.840 --> 0:56:58.640
<v Speaker 1>it's like, because I don't feel like I can go

0:56:58.880 --> 0:57:02.680
<v Speaker 1>that deeper. Did a relationship with her because she's not

0:57:02.840 --> 0:57:04.920
<v Speaker 1>like you're going there with me. I was going to

0:57:05.040 --> 0:57:07.799
<v Speaker 1>say one time, that makes me sad, It's okay, you

0:57:07.800 --> 0:57:11.480
<v Speaker 1>have to go. People grow. You've grown, she hasn't. It

0:57:11.520 --> 0:57:15.440
<v Speaker 1>happens a lot when I've had it with a lot

0:57:15.480 --> 0:57:17.400
<v Speaker 1>of my friends that have had a long time that

0:57:17.440 --> 0:57:21.040
<v Speaker 1>stayed in the Midwest, because when you have your whole

0:57:21.160 --> 0:57:24.120
<v Speaker 1>perspective changes and the way you live your life is

0:57:24.160 --> 0:57:29.040
<v Speaker 1>so different. It happens because you've gone through so much

0:57:29.240 --> 0:57:34.000
<v Speaker 1>that you've changed to because you've gone through a lot

0:57:34.080 --> 0:57:39.360
<v Speaker 1>of stuff, and so you've changed, and she hasn't or

0:57:39.440 --> 0:57:42.000
<v Speaker 1>can't relate or can't catch up, or just is a

0:57:42.040 --> 0:57:44.040
<v Speaker 1>different type of person. But I mean, even my friends

0:57:44.040 --> 0:57:46.760
<v Speaker 1>that can't relate to they're still They're like, they're still

0:57:46.800 --> 0:57:50.880
<v Speaker 1>like emotionally available. They're still. And again, I get a

0:57:50.960 --> 0:57:53.920
<v Speaker 1>busy schedule, but nothing nobody can tell me that their

0:57:53.920 --> 0:57:57.040
<v Speaker 1>schedule is anything I'm doing, and that I still have

0:57:57.080 --> 0:57:59.360
<v Speaker 1>a good relationship with my girlfriends, that I there's no

0:57:59.400 --> 0:58:01.680
<v Speaker 1>reason why I can't text you back or say like, hey,

0:58:01.760 --> 0:58:04.120
<v Speaker 1>I saw this post and I'm so sorry it's something

0:58:04.240 --> 0:58:06.200
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. So I was because it

0:58:06.240 --> 0:58:08.240
<v Speaker 1>just made me think of it because I was going

0:58:08.280 --> 0:58:11.040
<v Speaker 1>through something on Facebook popped up yesterday and it said

0:58:11.040 --> 0:58:15.280
<v Speaker 1>eleven years ago, and I was like, wow, like it's

0:58:15.360 --> 0:58:18.080
<v Speaker 1>just it's changed. It's like and now it's like but

0:58:18.120 --> 0:58:20.080
<v Speaker 1>it's sad because it's like it's almost like a loss

0:58:20.120 --> 0:58:23.040
<v Speaker 1>of like it's really hard. I have it with a

0:58:23.080 --> 0:58:26.040
<v Speaker 1>couple of friends and and it's hard. I mean I

0:58:26.080 --> 0:58:28.360
<v Speaker 1>think about it sometimes and I'm like, oh, I almost

0:58:28.440 --> 0:58:30.120
<v Speaker 1>kind of have to block it. And it's almost like

0:58:30.160 --> 0:58:31.880
<v Speaker 1>am I putting on something. It's like every time I

0:58:31.920 --> 0:58:33.640
<v Speaker 1>go home, I'm always texting her, But the last time

0:58:33.640 --> 0:58:35.760
<v Speaker 1>I went home, I didn't really see a lot of effort.

0:58:35.840 --> 0:58:38.000
<v Speaker 1>So I was like, I'm not putting in this effort

0:58:38.440 --> 0:58:40.240
<v Speaker 1>if you're not even going to put effort in like

0:58:40.400 --> 0:58:42.960
<v Speaker 1>the one time that I'm home a year to actually

0:58:42.960 --> 0:58:45.320
<v Speaker 1>like come see me, you know, or like to to whatever.

0:58:45.400 --> 0:58:47.919
<v Speaker 1>So I'm like, why don't do that? But and that's

0:58:47.920 --> 0:58:49.480
<v Speaker 1>like where I'm now like grieving it, where it's like

0:58:49.520 --> 0:58:51.600
<v Speaker 1>the last time I came, I didn't text her, and

0:58:51.600 --> 0:58:53.720
<v Speaker 1>I was like that was hard because I've always texted her.

0:58:53.720 --> 0:58:55.400
<v Speaker 1>But I'm like, wait, I'm not in high school anymore.

0:58:55.400 --> 0:58:58.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm not. We're not. We've outgrown. I guess that relationship

0:58:58.720 --> 0:59:00.400
<v Speaker 1>said something to me one time and they were like,

0:59:00.440 --> 0:59:03.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, we treat like relationship like you know with

0:59:04.000 --> 0:59:08.680
<v Speaker 1>your partner, but friendships have um now, I can't think

0:59:08.680 --> 0:59:11.640
<v Speaker 1>of what I was going to. Friendships have expiration dates too,

0:59:11.640 --> 0:59:13.080
<v Speaker 1>and sometimes there's nothing you can do. And I have

0:59:13.160 --> 0:59:15.040
<v Speaker 1>that with a friend. It's very uncomfortable, it's very awkward

0:59:15.040 --> 0:59:18.240
<v Speaker 1>because it's currently happening. But that's when she said that

0:59:18.280 --> 0:59:20.959
<v Speaker 1>to me. I was like, wait, it clicked. I'm like, yeah,

0:59:21.640 --> 0:59:23.960
<v Speaker 1>some things just expire and no one did anything and

0:59:24.000 --> 0:59:27.080
<v Speaker 1>nothing happens. But like you're growing, You've gone through so

0:59:27.160 --> 0:59:29.280
<v Speaker 1>much and she probably can't relate, and again I can't.

0:59:29.320 --> 0:59:31.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't have kids, I don't have a husband,

0:59:31.120 --> 0:59:33.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't have but like we are just connecting on

0:59:33.960 --> 0:59:35.680
<v Speaker 1>a different level and maybe it's just hard for something.

0:59:35.960 --> 0:59:38.320
<v Speaker 1>You do have the option, even though it would be

0:59:38.360 --> 0:59:42.240
<v Speaker 1>hard to tell her what you told us and really

0:59:42.280 --> 0:59:44.240
<v Speaker 1>call her and say, hey, I really want to talk

0:59:44.280 --> 0:59:46.960
<v Speaker 1>to you. We've I feel like we're growing apart or

0:59:47.000 --> 0:59:50.320
<v Speaker 1>I feel like we we're not, you know, whatever it is.

0:59:50.600 --> 0:59:52.800
<v Speaker 1>That's sort of an option if if it makes you

0:59:52.800 --> 0:59:57.280
<v Speaker 1>feel so bad. You can try that. Yeah, you can

0:59:57.320 --> 1:00:01.680
<v Speaker 1>also say whatever you can to grieve it and move on. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of. You know, it's funny. It's a girlfriend

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<v Speaker 1>from that kind of group had reached out to me

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<v Speaker 1>and we had more of a connected conversation through text

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<v Speaker 1>within five minutes than what I'd have had with her

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<v Speaker 1>in years, where I was like, man, I was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>please text me again. I'd love to chat with you

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<v Speaker 1>again because we were friends and we did a girl

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<v Speaker 1>And that's the thing, Like I'm all about picking up

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<v Speaker 1>where we leave off, Like even if if I don't

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<v Speaker 1>talk to you for a couple of months, like whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>like we always picked back and live off. That's fine,

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<v Speaker 1>But it's always that like it's a connected relationship where

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<v Speaker 1>you're just you're you, you share, both both parties share.

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<v Speaker 1>And but I guess it's just hard for me because

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<v Speaker 1>when I saw that phote on Facebook and like, damn

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<v Speaker 1>Facebook for always being the thing to remind me of

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<v Speaker 1>my relationships. And I'm like, thanks for the memory, Facebook,

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<v Speaker 1>the wormhole devil. Yeah, but thanks for letting me get

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<v Speaker 1>that off my chest. I just and I guess you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. I don't think I want to

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<v Speaker 1>have that because I think I'm just and I have that.

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<v Speaker 1>I just I think I've just passed it. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>if I don't see her any effort, and then I

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<v Speaker 1>just I have to do from it. I have a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of friends where it's like, like, you know, whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>if she does end up texting me, sure, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>I bet you it'll be when something comes out, either

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<v Speaker 1>on TV or whatever. So I always say that your

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<v Speaker 1>life is a beautiful garden, and if you allow weeds

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<v Speaker 1>to continue to grow, it's going to really up your

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<v Speaker 1>garden and it's not going to be a beautiful place.

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<v Speaker 1>So when stuff like this happens, you just have to

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<v Speaker 1>pull the weeds out. But I think it's like can flourish. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's hard though, just because like in in

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<v Speaker 1>this age, it's like we think that we have to

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<v Speaker 1>continue on with the friendships that we've had since high school.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's like, no, I'm a thirty four year old woman.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have I don't have to be friends with

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<v Speaker 1>you anymore. Give yourself permission to move on. I know

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<v Speaker 1>it's a weird feeling. I have two friends that were

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<v Speaker 1>like best friends and I have a great group of friends,

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<v Speaker 1>but two of them have like really dropped off left

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<v Speaker 1>the tribe. And it's like one is fully left and

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<v Speaker 1>the other one it's like, you know, some people go

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<v Speaker 1>through things. It's like the Four Agreements. Likely it's not

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<v Speaker 1>about you as much as it feels like it's about you.

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<v Speaker 1>Something could be going on with her where she just

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<v Speaker 1>I just want real if you can't be vulnerable and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying you gotta tell me every like skeleton

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<v Speaker 1>in your closet, but if we can't have an honest

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<v Speaker 1>just a just an authentic conversation, not just like oh yeah, things,

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<v Speaker 1>kids are good, I'm like, that's I don't. I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like when I asked someone how are you

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<v Speaker 1>and they say good, because I think it's a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of baloney. Everything nobody are a is good? Right? No,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm tired. I know yesterday and I was traveling, the

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<v Speaker 1>guys like the even the flight guy, he was like,

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<v Speaker 1>how are you. I go honestly, I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>be flying right now. I was like, oh my tired.

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<v Speaker 1>I was somewhere and I'm like, how are you? And

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<v Speaker 1>the person was like, whoa. I mean sometimes you don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to hear a sob story. But again, like if

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<v Speaker 1>it's you know, a relationship, but it's like you want

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<v Speaker 1>to have that other partner. So thanks for letting me

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<v Speaker 1>get that because I was just every single person listening.

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<v Speaker 1>If you want to, yeah, if it's been a minute

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<v Speaker 1>and you do care about that relationship, give the personal call.

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<v Speaker 1>Do it. Yeah. If that ship has sailed, it's okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let it sail that's me sail away. And you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>It's interesting though, in ten years that person can come

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<v Speaker 1>back and it's like people change, so you never know.

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<v Speaker 1>You just don't know. She needs maybe some time and growth. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>speaking of growth? What? Oh no, I was I was

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<v Speaker 1>going to tell you earlier. I was in New York

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<v Speaker 1>for a week for work and Rocco had to stay

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<v Speaker 1>with his dad. And when I got home, I got

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<v Speaker 1>a text that I needed to call him because he

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<v Speaker 1>needed to talk to me. And I was like about

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<v Speaker 1>what it was, Oh, well, um, after work, I'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>with you. I was like, oh, all right, whatever. So

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<v Speaker 1>last night and like waiting around, waiting around, are you nervous? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was kind of nervous because I was like, what, like,

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<v Speaker 1>just just tell me it's like, yeah, so annoying. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>So he got on the phone and he said, uh

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<v Speaker 1>so while you were while you were gone, um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>at least four or five times, and I rocko asked, um, so,

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder what so and so is doing the boyfriend

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<v Speaker 1>yours around the dad, right, And it happened like every

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<v Speaker 1>day times and I said, well, I'm really sorry, but

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<v Speaker 1>he's curious. We spend a lot of time with him

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<v Speaker 1>and his daughter or he and his daughter, and um

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<v Speaker 1>and when the kids you're going to be around that

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<v Speaker 1>your mom's we live in the same neighborhood, you know. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm sorry, but this is what it is. And

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<v Speaker 1>he ended up being okay with it, but I was

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<v Speaker 1>just you know, and then he said, well then he

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<v Speaker 1>was asking why aren't we living in the same house

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<v Speaker 1>and why aren't we together anymore? And I said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>he often asked that, and it's really normal. And I

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<v Speaker 1>have a talk with him about how his one friend

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<v Speaker 1>only as a dad and his other friend only has

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<v Speaker 1>a mom, and his other friend is you know, because

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<v Speaker 1>the same situation as you know he does, where his

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<v Speaker 1>mom and his dad lives separately, and every family is

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<v Speaker 1>different and there's nothing wrong with that, And it's actually

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<v Speaker 1>really you're you know, are really lucky that you have

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<v Speaker 1>a mom and dad who love you so much, and um,

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<v Speaker 1>you get to spend one on one time with us

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<v Speaker 1>and get to do all kinds of things. He said, Oh, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I never thought to, you know, talk about it that way.

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<v Speaker 1>How old is he? Who? He's six? You're like my cousin.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's going to be a tough situation. No,

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<v Speaker 1>it's really difficult, you know, and it's kind of getting

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<v Speaker 1>muddy with lives moving on. Um, but it's just I

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<v Speaker 1>think he's jealous to probably he's the other man in

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<v Speaker 1>his life, probably because I would know if that was

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<v Speaker 1>my husband, he would be like, why is jolly talking about? Right? No,

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm you know, trying to be really compassionate about that.

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<v Speaker 1>And um, do you get why people stay married until

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<v Speaker 1>the kids go to college? And then they masses them

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<v Speaker 1>up so bad? But but here's the thing that I

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<v Speaker 1>just had a light bulb on. It's not about the

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<v Speaker 1>kids why they stay till the kids go to college.

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<v Speaker 1>It's about them. They can't handle it. But then when

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<v Speaker 1>your kids are adults, you don't really care. You're like,

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<v Speaker 1>who cares right, No, I just realize, really say, their staying,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, for the kids, but they're staying because they

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<v Speaker 1>can't handle the kids being with someone. And I get that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I don't know that most divorces happen when

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<v Speaker 1>the kids go to college. I don't know. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I know one of my girlfriend's parents divorced right when

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<v Speaker 1>they when she went to college. But I will say,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, to your to your point, Amy, the leading

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<v Speaker 1>force of why I have not left Mike is I

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<v Speaker 1>do not want another lady around my child. And I

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<v Speaker 1>but having said that, when I'm done, if I was

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<v Speaker 1>ever to be done done with Mike, I wouldn't care.

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<v Speaker 1>But I still care because I still love him. Of

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<v Speaker 1>course I still don't want her to get the better

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<v Speaker 1>version of him, but I also don't want my child

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't want him hanging around some whatever kind

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<v Speaker 1>of chick that he picked up around my child. And

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't want Jolie talking about her. So that was

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<v Speaker 1>in the very beginning. I mean, when my girlfriends were like,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't matter, you're still her mom, I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care, Yes, I'll be because I know, like

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<v Speaker 1>she's I know every single part of that child, like

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<v Speaker 1>she's she came from me, Like she will never call

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<v Speaker 1>anyone else a mom or you know. But again, but

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<v Speaker 1>I think if I was like so done, I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>care in my five second google I just did. It's

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<v Speaker 1>totally torn. Like like two psychologists are like, kid, shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>live in an unhappy home, You shouldn't live in an

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<v Speaker 1>unhappy home, You shouldn't be in a bad marriage. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's like, yeah, it's a crap shoot. I

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<v Speaker 1>will say though, like if we were to get divorced,

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<v Speaker 1>the major already of the time spent would be with me, right,

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<v Speaker 1>so it would be me and my significant other, so

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<v Speaker 1>she wouldn't really be around the other the other battle

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<v Speaker 1>and then he tries to bring it on baby that

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<v Speaker 1>I can't even but I will say, like with in

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<v Speaker 1>my situation with my parents, I know my mom did try.

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<v Speaker 1>I wish she would have left my dad years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>It was not a good upbringing. In certain situation, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't want, you know. One of my main reasons for

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<v Speaker 1>making this huge life change was I didn't want Rocko

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<v Speaker 1>to grow up seeing those things, thinking that that's the

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<v Speaker 1>way a relationship is. No communication that you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>completely silent, you know, through dinner it's that's not that's

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<v Speaker 1>not what I want for him in the future, agreed

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<v Speaker 1>at all. So you know, you have to make those

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<v Speaker 1>hard choices. But then after the hard choice is made,

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<v Speaker 1>now you have to deal with all the mud. But

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<v Speaker 1>I mean there could be good stuff. I mean, like

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<v Speaker 1>who knows, like you know, maybe like I will say this,

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<v Speaker 1>like if my dad would have married the girl that

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<v Speaker 1>he's now married to, I would have had a way

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<v Speaker 1>better relationship with my dad afterwards, because I love the

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<v Speaker 1>lady he's married to now, like she's lovely. But the

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<v Speaker 1>lady he married after my mom, which was like his

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<v Speaker 1>a fair girl, I hated her so like that you

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<v Speaker 1>know that that doesn't make it happy either, But again

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of shapes like how your relationship with your

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<v Speaker 1>parents are going to be after the divorce. And I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know any unhappily divorced people though, Like do you

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<v Speaker 1>know anyone that's divorced? Like if I could only just

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<v Speaker 1>get you know, and so bad, I will say my

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<v Speaker 1>mom was unhappy for a very like time, but she yes,

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<v Speaker 1>so yeah, my dad had an affair end up marrying

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<v Speaker 1>his a fair girl. But he but she said I wish.

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<v Speaker 1>She did say at one point, I wish I would

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<v Speaker 1>have And I think she said that in a time

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<v Speaker 1>of just despair and loneliness because she's like, I'm never

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<v Speaker 1>going to find anybody. I'm like, yes you are a mom,

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<v Speaker 1>like yes you are, like you will, you will, you will.

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<v Speaker 1>It just might not be tomorrow. But you know, once

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<v Speaker 1>it was fifteen years and it was twenty years, and

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<v Speaker 1>so it was like, you know, of course, like she's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm never gonna find but she did. But she did say,

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<v Speaker 1>she did say she wishes that she would have tried,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe a little bit harder, And I was like, no, Mom,

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<v Speaker 1>it wouldn't have changed. He would not. It would not have.

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<v Speaker 1>You two did not work together. You were meant to

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<v Speaker 1>have my brother and I and that was it. And

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<v Speaker 1>now she's married. To get this, she's married to my

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<v Speaker 1>brother's ex wife's dad. So his so okay, So my

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<v Speaker 1>brother was married to a lady named Jackie who which

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<v Speaker 1>we're not going there but um so um yes, and

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<v Speaker 1>so married married Jackie. So his father in law was Dan. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Now they had kids and so Ava and Dylan have

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<v Speaker 1>you know their grandpa is you know, grandpa, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Papa Papa Dan and then Papa Nora from the other side. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>so then when their grandparents were married. Now my dad

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<v Speaker 1>now my brother's stepdad or you know, obviously not really

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, he's not gonna call like stepdad, but

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<v Speaker 1>like his stepdad is his ex father in law. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, next week we're talking about this because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>so curious now like at Christmas. Oh, save it for

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god. Oh I can't wait to hear more

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna let Julie set up for Shorty. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>all good. I've got I've got sixteen more years. You're

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