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Speaker 2: I guess the one thing you look at this, you

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Speaker 2: guys did did not take an offensive linement. So what

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Speaker 3: That wasn't one there that we would love to take

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Speaker 1: I think even in the first round in a year

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Speaker 1: that was very limited, especially at the tackle position, a

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Speaker 1: lot of them went early. There was a huge run

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Speaker 1: call it effect, and that happened, and so they're just

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Speaker 1: we weren't going to take one just to take one,

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Speaker 2: And you said on Monday that you were open to

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Speaker 2: trading Mike last year would suggest that you were fine

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Speaker 4: we believe in Colton.

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Speaker 1: Uh you know, I'll let Kyle talk a little bit

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Speaker 1: give it to very few people. Colton was one of

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Speaker 1: I think when he got here we didn't we didn't

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Speaker 1: But I think over time, as his confidence grew, you

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Speaker 4: Call it, really start to show.

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Speaker 1: And then Colton sninaky talented as well, and we like

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Speaker 4: Kyle, you go ahead and talk about him.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean, just get an old linement ready

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Speaker 3: to start in this league is really tough, especially how

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Speaker 5: But you can win with Colton. He's been here for

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Speaker 3: When he has played, we have one games with him.

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Speaker 3: I mean I look at Colton very similar to how

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Speaker 3: there a ton and you look in the draft to

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Speaker 5: A good pick. But it's not easy to find a

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Speaker 3: Later who can beat out Colton mckivitz, just like you

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Speaker 3: So it's not only finding someone who can have a

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Speaker 5: Can make our team, which is easy to do.

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Speaker 7: It's hard to get an offensive linment from college transition

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Speaker 5: Why is it harder for an offensive linment than a

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Speaker 4: Sometimes those guys.

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Speaker 3: You know, these pass rushers, they might not be able

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Speaker 3: Just how consistent of a football player he is. You know,

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Speaker 5: And but the higher you go, you hope if fits all.

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