WEBVTT - Vince India 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:03.800 All right, we're back for episode Sime the Friday Podcast 0:00:04.080 --> 0:00:07.520 and to say we have the great guests. His name 0:00:07.560 --> 0:00:10.480 is Vince India. He's spent the last three years on 0:00:10.520 --> 0:00:14.120 the web dot Com Tour, also playing on PGA Tour 0:00:14.320 --> 0:00:18.560 Latin America and he's currently at in Miami for the 0:00:18.600 --> 0:00:22.680 PGA Latin America Championship and next week we'll be playing 0:00:22.720 --> 0:00:26.439 in the final stage of Hugh School. So Vince, thanks. 0:00:26.160 --> 0:00:29.320 For coming on, Thanks for having me, and this is 0:00:29.600 --> 0:00:31.360 this is pretty cool my first podcast. 0:00:32.280 --> 0:00:36.479 Yeah, it's only our fifth, so you I've only got 0:00:36.520 --> 0:00:38.839 a little bit of experience over you. 0:00:39.479 --> 0:00:42.640 So well good, We're both made to it. Then, So 0:00:43.760 --> 0:00:44.120 Vince and. 0:00:44.159 --> 0:00:49.239 I know each other from Illinois golf. You know, he 0:00:49.479 --> 0:00:52.200 was one of the reasons that I never pursued a 0:00:52.320 --> 0:00:57.240 professional career of playing. In the two thousand and what 0:00:57.360 --> 0:00:59.360 was it ten or twenty eleven. 0:01:01.400 --> 0:01:04.880 That you were in ten state Amateur Samwichship. Yeah, yeah, 0:01:04.959 --> 0:01:07.200 we should tell that story about that if you want to. 0:01:07.720 --> 0:01:11.880 Yeah, twenty ten state am I I had played two 0:01:12.000 --> 0:01:14.600 really good rounds of golf. I was even par and 0:01:14.640 --> 0:01:16.000 I was in you know, I was in the top 0:01:16.040 --> 0:01:19.119 ten and I was like nine shots back of Vince, 0:01:19.720 --> 0:01:23.480 and I was like, and then he ended up beating 0:01:23.520 --> 0:01:27.479 me by like twenty shots in the end, but his 0:01:27.240 --> 0:01:29.919 h his round got off to quite a start there 0:01:31.480 --> 0:01:34.880 and he fired a lot of good rounds to win 0:01:35.080 --> 0:01:38.319 at Beverly. Do you want to tell that story right 0:01:38.319 --> 0:01:38.840 off the back? 0:01:39.760 --> 0:01:43.440 Yeah? It was. It was going into my senior year 0:01:43.480 --> 0:01:48.400 of college at Iowa and started coming out as a 0:01:48.400 --> 0:01:52.640 pretty beefent amateur golfer at the mice finishes and didn't 0:01:52.640 --> 0:01:56.880 have any super high expectations for my senior year, qualified 0:01:56.880 --> 0:02:00.240 for the state am and you know, didn't have any 0:02:00.600 --> 0:02:05.360 massive expectations. And the summer of twenty ten will always 0:02:05.440 --> 0:02:09.600 be remembered as the summer smearing off ice was a massive, 0:02:10.440 --> 0:02:14.080 massive hit in my group of friends. And that's the 0:02:14.160 --> 0:02:16.560 situation where you know, you go out and buy a 0:02:16.600 --> 0:02:19.200 twelve pack of ice and you know you had a 0:02:19.240 --> 0:02:21.400 whole thing where you ice. Tell your friends you hide 0:02:21.760 --> 0:02:23.960 the spiring off ice like under a couch or under 0:02:24.000 --> 0:02:26.600 the pillow or in the or in the in the 0:02:26.639 --> 0:02:28.079 fridge when they want to go get a snack and 0:02:28.080 --> 0:02:29.200 all of a sudden you have to get on one 0:02:29.240 --> 0:02:32.520 knee and chuck it. So the day before the state am. 0:02:33.800 --> 0:02:36.360 I'm hanging on the berths with a few friends, and 0:02:36.600 --> 0:02:38.519 things probably got carried out a hand and I ended 0:02:38.560 --> 0:02:42.480 up getting ice five or six times, and you know, 0:02:42.760 --> 0:02:45.760 eight thirty two off time the next day, and I'm 0:02:45.760 --> 0:02:49.880 heading the wrong direction in sobriety, so I kind of 0:02:49.919 --> 0:02:53.800 waddow myself out to the to the outside area, feeling 0:02:53.800 --> 0:02:57.760 crappy with all the sugar in my stomach, and you know, 0:02:58.440 --> 0:03:00.480 at this point, I need to make myself feel better 0:03:00.480 --> 0:03:02.799 so I'm not hungover and you know, slashing around the 0:03:02.800 --> 0:03:05.760 golf course, so I try to make myself throw up, 0:03:06.120 --> 0:03:08.240 which you know, that seemed like the logical thing to 0:03:08.240 --> 0:03:10.080 do at that point, you know, get all the boos 0:03:10.080 --> 0:03:12.360 out of me, you know, hangovers gone, and you know, 0:03:12.720 --> 0:03:16.200 then we're off tomorrow morning and I have really First off, 0:03:16.240 --> 0:03:20.280 I'm definitely scared of throwing up in general. So this 0:03:20.320 --> 0:03:23.079 isn't my forte and I'm really struggling all of a 0:03:23.080 --> 0:03:26.440 sudden when my buddy comes out, huge fresh star at 0:03:26.520 --> 0:03:30.320 Madison and he's kind of coaching me through it, telling 0:03:30.320 --> 0:03:33.320 me what to do, and he gives me three key 0:03:33.400 --> 0:03:37.040 words of advice. And I just painted this guy's fence 0:03:37.080 --> 0:03:41.800 with vomit just everywhere. Go home next morning, steel, feel crappy. 0:03:42.480 --> 0:03:46.480 Get to the golf course, hungover, four over through six 0:03:47.360 --> 0:03:49.480 and I'm on the seventh hole of Beverly, on the 0:03:49.480 --> 0:03:52.680 back ninth of the sixteenth in the trees just past. 0:03:52.920 --> 0:03:56.160 You know you've been there. It's you're in jail. And 0:03:56.240 --> 0:03:58.680 I tried to punch on. I grounded it like ten feet. 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:03.000 Who's cadding? I go, okay, hold on, I'll be right back. 0:04:03.440 --> 0:04:06.839 Go behind a tree, two fingers on the throat again, 0:04:07.000 --> 0:04:09.480 try to get everything out, and then I go back 0:04:09.480 --> 0:04:12.800 to this other punch shot almost the identical thing. Look up, 0:04:12.960 --> 0:04:15.240 I'm like, oh, there's a window. There's a window like 0:04:15.280 --> 0:04:17.520 the size of maybe a lamp shade. Let's go through that. 0:04:17.839 --> 0:04:21.200 Hit it through there to like forty feet, make the putt, 0:04:21.279 --> 0:04:24.200 and then I played my last eight holes in seven 0:04:24.279 --> 0:04:27.440 under par, or I least eleven holes in seven under par, 0:04:28.320 --> 0:04:31.560 and then I ended up winning my seven. So it 0:04:31.720 --> 0:04:36.839 all started with uh, with that smearing offince, I guess it. 0:04:37.360 --> 0:04:39.680 Probably you know, it just got you in the right 0:04:40.400 --> 0:04:43.799 feeling for the last eleven once you got the last 0:04:43.800 --> 0:04:45.560 of the booze out of you, you know you were 0:04:45.600 --> 0:04:47.880 you were that perfect balance of hungover. 0:04:48.040 --> 0:04:52.760 Yeah, yeah, that's the key. Sometimes every now and then 0:04:52.839 --> 0:04:55.680 you'll have a you have a pro am party in 0:04:55.760 --> 0:04:59.520 South America or in Columbia or whatever country you have 0:04:59.520 --> 0:05:01.920 down here, that it's almost a little bit too much fun. 0:05:01.960 --> 0:05:05.760 And yeah, it's hard to not overindulge. But I always 0:05:05.760 --> 0:05:09.120 look at it that, you know, sometimes you play a 0:05:09.160 --> 0:05:12.279 little bit better at golf when you're you're not focused 0:05:12.320 --> 0:05:15.920 on golf, like you know, let's say that you're not 0:05:15.960 --> 0:05:19.279 feeling good the next morning. You're just trying to make 0:05:19.320 --> 0:05:21.280 it step by step to the next golf shot, you 0:05:21.320 --> 0:05:23.080 know what I mean, Like you're just focused on getting 0:05:23.080 --> 0:05:25.520 to your next golf trat without falling over and passing out. 0:05:25.800 --> 0:05:27.120 And then all of a sudden you're at the golf 0:05:27.120 --> 0:05:29.360 shot and you go, oh, well this is terrible enough. 0:05:29.720 --> 0:05:32.320 You're not thinking about what could possibly go wrong in between, 0:05:32.800 --> 0:05:35.200 you know, the the last shot on your next one. 0:05:35.320 --> 0:05:38.799 So you know, I gotta take everything in strade, I suppose. 0:05:39.800 --> 0:05:43.159 Yeah, I think it makes you not try too. 0:05:43.040 --> 0:05:45.640 Hard, which is yeah, exactly. 0:05:45.720 --> 0:05:47.000 Like everybody I know. 0:05:47.040 --> 0:05:51.360 I try. Yeah, so yeah, I go through take some valleys, 0:05:51.360 --> 0:05:54.000 but sometimes I try too hard and I obviously try 0:05:54.000 --> 0:05:57.480 a little a little less at times, but that's all 0:05:57.480 --> 0:05:59.000 about balance. I suppose. 0:06:00.360 --> 0:06:02.880 You kind of hit on it. Some would call you 0:06:02.960 --> 0:06:06.960 a late bloomer in golf, where you know, sudden you 0:06:07.080 --> 0:06:10.000 kind of like first time the scene later in your 0:06:10.000 --> 0:06:12.520 college career. I mean, you won the State am was 0:06:12.560 --> 0:06:15.160 a like a big kind of jumping off point for you. 0:06:16.440 --> 0:06:20.920 Yeah, that certainly it was a stepping stone. That summer 0:06:20.920 --> 0:06:23.200 in general was really good. I qualified for the US 0:06:23.279 --> 0:06:29.000 Amateur my first time and finished pretty high in the 0:06:29.040 --> 0:06:32.440 State Amateur match play, and then I won the State 0:06:32.480 --> 0:06:37.160 am at a really really nice golf course and beat 0:06:37.200 --> 0:06:39.240 a couple of the line I players and you know 0:06:39.279 --> 0:06:43.480 how good their team is, And that kind of kick 0:06:43.520 --> 0:06:46.599 started me into an awesome fall season at Iowa my 0:06:46.640 --> 0:06:49.960 senior year. And when all of a sudden, I was 0:06:50.000 --> 0:06:53.359 getting asked to, you know, play all these clubs for 0:06:54.160 --> 0:06:58.320 club manufacturers. So it's amazing stuffing changeing. 0:06:59.640 --> 0:07:03.400 How's that work when you, you know, are a really good 0:07:03.440 --> 0:07:08.279 college player, and like, what's like the turning pro process? 0:07:08.360 --> 0:07:10.520 Like and when did you know, like, hey, you know, 0:07:10.560 --> 0:07:11.960 I've got a real shot to play this. 0:07:12.080 --> 0:07:19.000 Road living oh man. The turning pro process is not 0:07:19.120 --> 0:07:23.840 as complicated as you think. The actual the actual turning 0:07:23.880 --> 0:07:27.000 point and when you're when you become a pro is 0:07:27.360 --> 0:07:29.480 you sign up for your first event and there's two 0:07:29.560 --> 0:07:32.320 boxes to check. There's one that says amateur and the 0:07:32.440 --> 0:07:34.560 one that says pro. And as soon as you click 0:07:35.280 --> 0:07:39.080 the pro box and press THEB my, you're technically a professional. 0:07:39.520 --> 0:07:43.080 So that's kind of underwhelming. But the process leading up 0:07:43.080 --> 0:07:44.640 to that, like behind the scenes with all the clubs 0:07:44.640 --> 0:07:49.440 and stuff. Usually kids in college will have some type 0:07:49.480 --> 0:07:53.240 of agreement with a company that they'll they'll send them products, 0:07:53.280 --> 0:07:56.040 you know, have them play their balls, watch as clubs, drivers, 0:07:56.080 --> 0:07:59.800 what have you. And then you know, depending on how 0:08:00.360 --> 0:08:02.840 how they turn out as a college player, those companies 0:08:02.920 --> 0:08:08.160 will we'll keep in contact and then approached them once 0:08:08.240 --> 0:08:12.480 they're a college. College career is over, and you know, 0:08:12.560 --> 0:08:14.360 then all of a sudden, you have a manufacturing in 0:08:14.400 --> 0:08:17.200 your back pocket, and you know, maybe they know a 0:08:17.200 --> 0:08:20.200 good friend that's an agent, and before that you have 0:08:20.240 --> 0:08:24.120 an agent and possibly more deals. So that's kind of 0:08:24.120 --> 0:08:24.720 how it works. 0:08:25.840 --> 0:08:27.640 So you're you're a Calvalay guy. 0:08:27.720 --> 0:08:32.600 Now have you always been a Calaway guy? Yeah? For 0:08:32.640 --> 0:08:36.839 as long as I remember, high school was a mixed 0:08:36.840 --> 0:08:39.000 bag of everything, whatever I could get my hands on, 0:08:39.720 --> 0:08:44.160 really didn't have a preference. And then sophomore year at Iowa, 0:08:44.679 --> 0:08:48.439 my coach set up an arrangement with Calway because they 0:08:48.440 --> 0:08:51.520 were looking to they were looking to send some products 0:08:51.559 --> 0:08:54.280 of a few college players and they didn't have a 0:08:54.480 --> 0:08:56.680 they didn't have very many playing their stuff at the time, 0:08:57.360 --> 0:09:00.240 and I was one of the lucky ones to see 0:09:00.320 --> 0:09:04.679 some products. And uh, I think it's been eight years 0:09:04.679 --> 0:09:08.439 now with Calloway, and I've seen I've seen the good, 0:09:08.520 --> 0:09:10.959 the bad, and the great, and it's amazing how far 0:09:11.000 --> 0:09:15.240 our company can go in eight years. And I've just 0:09:15.240 --> 0:09:18.439 seen how awesome their line has turned out in that time. 0:09:19.360 --> 0:09:21.079 I have you hit their new driver. 0:09:21.880 --> 0:09:25.280 It's apparently like what rate of what's it's called, like 0:09:25.280 --> 0:09:26.280 the epic or something. 0:09:27.000 --> 0:09:27.400 Yeah. 0:09:27.520 --> 0:09:31.880 Yeah, everybody's saying it's just crazy good. I haven't hit it, 0:09:31.920 --> 0:09:34.640 but I've also heard the exact same things, like a 0:09:34.640 --> 0:09:37.400 bunch of nickey guys that have gone to Callaway and 0:09:37.920 --> 0:09:42.160 fiddled with things over there. I've just said it's outstanding. 0:09:42.240 --> 0:09:47.480 So yeah, hopefully I'll I'll get to go and hit 0:09:47.520 --> 0:09:50.040 it when I go to the Calli Performance Center in 0:09:50.160 --> 0:09:51.920 January or whenever I head over there. 0:09:53.840 --> 0:09:57.319 That's uh, yeah, I want to get my hands down one. 0:09:57.960 --> 0:09:59.320 Yeah, I need all the distance. 0:09:59.400 --> 0:10:01.640 Second get what uh. 0:10:03.160 --> 0:10:07.160 What I was gonna say? If I if I run 0:10:07.200 --> 0:10:10.120 across another one, maybe spare one. I could probably uh 0:10:10.480 --> 0:10:13.240 snag up on my favorite golf blogger. You know, as 0:10:13.240 --> 0:10:15.560 long as we get a Caloe logo on Friday, how's 0:10:15.559 --> 0:10:17.920 that's that? I don't know. 0:10:18.360 --> 0:10:22.240 I don't know if that's a good deal for for Friday. 0:10:23.800 --> 0:10:26.160 That's fine. I guess the logos are expected. Probably looking 0:10:26.200 --> 0:10:28.800 for more than a SFE. 0:10:29.720 --> 0:10:30.960 We'll see, we'll see. 0:10:31.000 --> 0:10:33.120 We have a shortage of there, sorry, maybe a full. 0:10:36.160 --> 0:10:39.120 So tell us, uh, you know a little bit about 0:10:39.600 --> 0:10:44.520 Q School. I think it's the most undercovered golf event 0:10:44.600 --> 0:10:47.680 of the year because it's the only time you really 0:10:47.720 --> 0:10:50.959 see these guys you know, and not these guys you 0:10:51.200 --> 0:10:55.400 and all these other pros playing for essentially their livelihoods 0:10:55.400 --> 0:10:58.560 and their jobs. So uh huh can you can you 0:10:58.640 --> 0:11:00.840 walk us through like what the vibes who are like 0:11:00.920 --> 0:11:04.920 at each stage? And you know what, you know, the 0:11:05.000 --> 0:11:08.079 difference is as you move up to the final stage. 0:11:08.960 --> 0:11:13.320 Sure, let's see here, so there's four stages. You have 0:11:13.920 --> 0:11:16.400 and they're just they're all numbers differently. So the first 0:11:16.400 --> 0:11:19.360 stage is actually pre qualifying. Then you have the first 0:11:19.400 --> 0:11:23.319 which is the second stage technically, then second stage and 0:11:23.400 --> 0:11:27.600 final stage. And as a member of the Web dot 0:11:27.640 --> 0:11:31.240 Com I get a five pass pre qualifying, and then 0:11:31.320 --> 0:11:34.680 you go to the first stage, which is there's got 0:11:34.679 --> 0:11:39.319 to be ten or eleven sites throughout the country. Eighty 0:11:39.400 --> 0:11:42.400 players will be there. They take the load twenty five 0:11:42.520 --> 0:11:46.840 or so. And you know, you see some guys that 0:11:46.920 --> 0:11:50.800 you've seen from junior golf and college golf that are 0:11:50.840 --> 0:11:54.760 still playing golf, but you just haven't seen them as 0:11:54.840 --> 0:11:57.679 much as you probably should have since I've been playing 0:11:57.720 --> 0:12:01.040 out on Latino American and Web dot Com, and I 0:12:01.080 --> 0:12:03.160 think they've just kind of been hanging around playing state 0:12:03.480 --> 0:12:06.720 you know, mini tours and state opens like that. But 0:12:07.960 --> 0:12:11.840 you know, you really don't need to play great golf 0:12:11.840 --> 0:12:13.640 to get out of the first stage. You just kind 0:12:13.640 --> 0:12:19.199 of need not make doubles and just play solid golf, 0:12:19.200 --> 0:12:20.960 and that's really all it takes. You know, you could 0:12:21.360 --> 0:12:23.240 definitely play average golf to get out of there. You 0:12:23.320 --> 0:12:25.440 just can't play you just can't have any stretches of 0:12:25.480 --> 0:12:29.440 super bad golf that shoots you in the foot, but 0:12:29.840 --> 0:12:34.600 also underradedly. For me, first stage is you know, kind 0:12:34.600 --> 0:12:37.679 of stressful because you almost take it for granted. Like 0:12:38.760 --> 0:12:41.360 in my opinion, I think making thirty grand on the 0:12:41.400 --> 0:12:44.840 web dot com every year, the fact that there's twenty 0:12:44.840 --> 0:12:46.840 five guys that need to go back to first stage 0:12:47.440 --> 0:12:49.439 that are in the same position as I am, as 0:12:49.679 --> 0:12:51.920 it's kind of ridiculous that it's all of us almost 0:12:51.920 --> 0:12:54.199 make it out. It's like a stage anyways. I think 0:12:54.200 --> 0:12:57.200 it's just a waste of time, but also the fact 0:12:57.240 --> 0:12:59.640 that we have to go back there as we almost 0:12:59.640 --> 0:13:03.559 play the height of expectations and then you know, as 0:13:03.559 --> 0:13:07.160 soon as you start thinking about the outcome, before you know, 0:13:07.240 --> 0:13:10.439 you play around the golf, that's when weird stuff starts happening, 0:13:10.480 --> 0:13:12.640 and you know, lo and behold, I made it out 0:13:13.040 --> 0:13:16.000 the first stage on the number that's five hundred part 0:13:16.040 --> 0:13:21.400 at the twenty fifth spot. Now, so goofy stuff has 0:13:22.120 --> 0:13:24.200 And that's the best way I can describe a few 0:13:24.240 --> 0:13:29.959 school is like Murphy's on, whatever whatever bad can happen, will, 0:13:30.040 --> 0:13:33.600 is that how that goes, whatever can go wrong will, 0:13:34.320 --> 0:13:39.600 So you just think differently, You feel a little bit 0:13:39.640 --> 0:13:42.120 differently because you know, you are fighting for a job 0:13:42.160 --> 0:13:47.280 next year, and your decision making at times is just 0:13:47.320 --> 0:13:50.640 completely erroneous, like when. 0:13:50.440 --> 0:13:54.240 You're dormy and mass play like with a big lead 0:13:54.440 --> 0:13:56.600 and you're you dot, you take your foot off the 0:13:56.600 --> 0:13:58.880 gas almost right essentially. 0:13:58.960 --> 0:14:02.880 Yeah, that's that my situation the last round at first 0:14:02.880 --> 0:14:07.000 stage there, I was, I was three under after four 0:14:07.760 --> 0:14:10.480 like miles in front of the cut line, and I 0:14:10.600 --> 0:14:13.560 just started getting like real complacent with like every golf 0:14:13.559 --> 0:14:15.960 shot I hit up there, and it wasn't apparably easy 0:14:16.000 --> 0:14:18.360 golf course, like there was trouble to be found. But 0:14:19.440 --> 0:14:23.640 as soon as that started happening, you know, started making 0:14:23.680 --> 0:14:26.800 sloppy bogies and before I knew it, I needed a birdy, 0:14:26.840 --> 0:14:28.720 one of my left tools to get through, and you know, 0:14:28.840 --> 0:14:32.120 thank god I did. But you know, funny things just 0:14:32.120 --> 0:14:35.680 happened that you know, you wouldn't you wouldn't normally see 0:14:35.720 --> 0:14:39.520 during the rest of the year. Yeah, So when you 0:14:39.600 --> 0:14:41.960 go to second stage, it's. 0:14:43.880 --> 0:14:47.560 It's kind of like you're you know, if you make it, 0:14:47.680 --> 0:14:48.360 you've got. 0:14:48.120 --> 0:14:52.480 A job at their level, and if you don't have 0:14:52.600 --> 0:14:56.000 a job, So you know, second stage for the listeners 0:14:56.000 --> 0:14:59.760 that don't really understand it. If you get through second stage, 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:02.720 you're assured some sort of status on the web dot 0:15:02.760 --> 0:15:07.920 com Tour, which is huge. Yeah, because you can get starts, 0:15:07.960 --> 0:15:11.200 you can get sponsors, more sponsors, exemptions. Correct. 0:15:12.000 --> 0:15:14.560 Yeah, I mean that's how That's what happened with Trey Mullenax. 0:15:15.440 --> 0:15:18.600 We played together two years ago at second stage. He 0:15:18.680 --> 0:15:21.160 got through them, finished almost that last of finals. I 0:15:21.280 --> 0:15:23.760 think at the sponsors invite, he wasn't going to get 0:15:23.800 --> 0:15:27.040 into anything on his number based off it's finish at 0:15:27.080 --> 0:15:30.960 Q school, but got a sponsor invite in the Bogata 0:15:31.080 --> 0:15:34.520 the first event of the year because Justin Thomas, you know, 0:15:34.600 --> 0:15:38.240 has some pull and leverage down there, and uh, well 0:15:38.280 --> 0:15:40.280 you know he finished well, he shuffled in and then 0:15:40.920 --> 0:15:44.080 kept his cards that year and then earned his PGA 0:15:44.200 --> 0:15:47.080 Tour card the next year. So you know what. 0:15:47.560 --> 0:15:51.040 School does Justin Thomas have in Bogata? You might need 0:15:51.080 --> 0:15:52.720 to explain that, explain that. 0:15:54.680 --> 0:15:59.000 Yeah, well it's the same thing with the same thing 0:15:59.000 --> 0:16:01.920 with Jordan's pete. I think. So, I don't want to 0:16:01.960 --> 0:16:04.520 I don't want to speculate, but I'm almost certain there's 0:16:04.520 --> 0:16:10.360 some there's some financial pull down there that it is 0:16:10.400 --> 0:16:16.520 almost required for a sponsor invite. Ah, if you if 0:16:16.560 --> 0:16:20.320 you know of a person or you know you have 0:16:20.360 --> 0:16:22.400 a I have a guy that's willing to shell out, 0:16:22.640 --> 0:16:25.680 you know, X amount of dollars for what one of 0:16:25.680 --> 0:16:29.480 these sponsored exemptions might cost, then more than likely you'll 0:16:29.480 --> 0:16:30.360 get into the tournament. 0:16:31.280 --> 0:16:35.280 M hm, that's it. What do you so you've been 0:16:35.680 --> 0:16:39.800 at that same site for three straight years, that's second 0:16:39.800 --> 0:16:43.000 stage site and you've missed through all three years? 0:16:43.400 --> 0:16:44.160 Uh? 0:16:44.280 --> 0:16:45.720 Do you just love that golf course? 0:16:45.720 --> 0:16:50.680 What is Southern Pines Southern Hills in the Southern Hills 0:16:50.680 --> 0:16:56.280 Plantation in Brooksville, Florida. So it's a combination of the 0:16:56.360 --> 0:17:00.360 golf course and end of the arrangements. I kind of 0:17:00.880 --> 0:17:02.720 I kind of have stuff when I go there. So 0:17:03.640 --> 0:17:07.639 for anyone that hasn't been in Brooksville, it's forty five 0:17:07.800 --> 0:17:13.800 to fifty minutes north of Tampa, kind of in the middle. Yeah, 0:17:13.960 --> 0:17:17.600 Central Florida. Pretty much not a whole lot going on. 0:17:18.359 --> 0:17:22.959 People in their free time life to go ATV ATV riding, 0:17:23.400 --> 0:17:25.960 like to go shoot guns, you know, do some pretty 0:17:25.960 --> 0:17:29.359 weird stuff, and there's not a whole lot to do 0:17:29.520 --> 0:17:32.720 up there. The places, to say, are a daze in 0:17:33.560 --> 0:17:37.679 maybe a Hampton End, like twelve miles away, so it 0:17:37.720 --> 0:17:40.320 can be kind of a rough place to go you 0:17:40.359 --> 0:17:42.600 don't have the right people on your side. And luckily 0:17:42.680 --> 0:17:45.080 my first year there, I got in touch with a 0:17:45.160 --> 0:17:49.840 nice family within the community and they've kind of taken 0:17:49.880 --> 0:17:53.639 me under their wing. And maybe I wouldn't even call it, 0:17:53.720 --> 0:17:56.480 I don't remember, but they let me come down and 0:17:56.640 --> 0:17:59.600 stay on property and play at the golf course whenever 0:17:59.640 --> 0:18:01.840 I want. And it's almost like I have like a 0:18:01.840 --> 0:18:05.399 whole group of friends in Southern Hills Plantations. Whenever I 0:18:05.480 --> 0:18:08.679 go down there, it's like like we pick up right 0:18:08.680 --> 0:18:11.840 where we left off. So that's that helps a ton, 0:18:11.920 --> 0:18:14.280 to be honest, you know, staying in like a nice house, 0:18:16.040 --> 0:18:20.560 having people to interact around around you and feels it 0:18:20.560 --> 0:18:22.320 feels a little bit more like home, which is nice. 0:18:22.440 --> 0:18:25.440 And then the golf course is I think, pretty fantastic 0:18:25.480 --> 0:18:26.040 on top of that. 0:18:27.440 --> 0:18:30.040 So that kind of touches on something I wanted to 0:18:30.080 --> 0:18:35.560 talk about later. So you know, play that Latin Americans 0:18:35.560 --> 0:18:41.879 who are when you're in snicker Rock and Argentina and Venezuela, 0:18:42.480 --> 0:18:45.560 like what happens when you miss a cut? Like what 0:18:45.600 --> 0:18:47.920 do you do in your free time? 0:18:48.080 --> 0:18:50.880 Like, in general, what do you do in your free time. 0:18:51.880 --> 0:18:55.800 That's entirely dependent on what city we go to and 0:18:55.840 --> 0:19:01.119 like how close we are to city center. So let's 0:19:01.119 --> 0:19:06.520 say let's say we're in Bogota, Colombia, and the last 0:19:06.520 --> 0:19:08.639 couple of terms we've played in Bogata, we've stayed in 0:19:08.680 --> 0:19:11.480 the city and she made it out to the golf 0:19:11.560 --> 0:19:14.280 course maybe half hour forty five minutes. If I miss 0:19:14.320 --> 0:19:18.600 the cut in Bogata, there is maybe a five to 0:19:18.640 --> 0:19:20.960 seven percent chance that I'd go to the golf course 0:19:21.000 --> 0:19:25.320 that weekend, because more often than not, after missing a 0:19:25.320 --> 0:19:28.800 cut on Friday, I'll be going out to dinner with friends, 0:19:29.600 --> 0:19:31.760 more than likely not going out to the bars and 0:19:32.960 --> 0:19:36.800 experiencing nightlife. Then comes Saturday. I mean, the thing is, 0:19:36.880 --> 0:19:40.359 people party down there until four or five in the morning, 0:19:40.960 --> 0:19:43.560 and you know, you're not going to get home from 0:19:43.600 --> 0:19:47.600 the bars until you know, four thirty five, even five 0:19:47.600 --> 0:19:50.159 point thirty, who knows, And by that time you're in 0:19:50.200 --> 0:19:51.639 no shape to go to the golf course. So you 0:19:51.720 --> 0:19:54.359 might as well just scratch Saturday off. You're gonna be 0:19:54.359 --> 0:19:58.440 borizontal for most of the day, and you know, depending 0:19:58.440 --> 0:20:02.200 on how how you se on the later Saturday night, 0:20:02.280 --> 0:20:05.359 you either you go back out and do it again, 0:20:05.720 --> 0:20:09.480 or you know, you try to recuperate and have a 0:20:09.480 --> 0:20:14.359 productive Sunday. So, yeah, it really depends on the city, 0:20:14.400 --> 0:20:21.080 and I will always try to spend as little time 0:20:21.119 --> 0:20:25.359 as possible in a hotel room or an airbnb or 0:20:25.480 --> 0:20:29.400 I'm whoever I'm saying. So if I'm at the cut, 0:20:29.760 --> 0:20:32.760 more than likely that I'll be out doing the seeing 0:20:32.800 --> 0:20:36.520 the sights and check it out the city. So somebody, 0:20:36.760 --> 0:20:37.440 you know, once. 0:20:37.400 --> 0:20:41.040 Told me that it's you know, professional golf. You know, 0:20:41.200 --> 0:20:45.240 the difference between professional golf and college golf is really 0:20:45.280 --> 0:20:49.440 how you're able to handle travel, being on the road, 0:20:49.560 --> 0:20:52.080 being away from friends and family, Like, would you say 0:20:52.119 --> 0:20:54.560 that's probably the hardest thing about it. 0:20:55.480 --> 0:21:00.159 Yeah, absolutely, it's got to be different for a guy 0:21:00.280 --> 0:21:04.000 that are married, didn't have families, but it's forever anyone 0:21:04.080 --> 0:21:09.920 that's not. It's certainly not easy. Yeah, it's especially having 0:21:09.920 --> 0:21:13.280 a language barrier down there and having people down there 0:21:13.280 --> 0:21:16.000 and look at you differently. You almost feel like you're 0:21:16.119 --> 0:21:21.480 not welcomed or you know, not appreciated. So and then 0:21:23.280 --> 0:21:25.399 and then if if you don't have like a decent 0:21:25.440 --> 0:21:27.439 group of friends down here, it makes it even tougher. 0:21:27.480 --> 0:21:30.879 So that's, uh, that's one of the hard parts. And 0:21:30.920 --> 0:21:32.680 I'm pretty fortunate to have a good group of guys 0:21:32.680 --> 0:21:35.040 that are to hang out with and spend my time 0:21:35.080 --> 0:21:38.040 with if I ever if I ever need a some 0:21:38.200 --> 0:21:40.960 time away from golf. Yeah, that's. 0:21:42.359 --> 0:21:43.040 How How's that? 0:21:43.160 --> 0:21:46.679 How's kind of like your golf life balance change. I 0:21:46.680 --> 0:21:51.159 imagine when you first turn pro, like you're just going golf, golf, 0:21:51.200 --> 0:21:52.280 golf all the time. 0:21:53.760 --> 0:21:54.800 You hit a point. 0:21:54.560 --> 0:21:57.080 Where like you're like, you know, I got to have balance, 0:21:57.160 --> 0:21:58.879 And then what what do you like to do, like 0:21:58.960 --> 0:22:02.080 when you're not practicing, Like, you know, what do you 0:22:02.119 --> 0:22:04.720 do with all your downtime state when you're traveling and 0:22:04.760 --> 0:22:05.560 you're away. 0:22:07.240 --> 0:22:08.680 That's a good question. You kind of hit it on 0:22:08.720 --> 0:22:12.320 the head there. Like right out of college, I was 0:22:12.440 --> 0:22:15.600 just you know, pumped and move to Florida and play 0:22:15.680 --> 0:22:21.240 golf year round. And I did that for three straight years. 0:22:21.560 --> 0:22:25.560 You know, whenever, whenever I wasn't on the road, I'd 0:22:25.560 --> 0:22:29.479 be home in Florida practicing and playing, or even up 0:22:29.480 --> 0:22:34.040 in the Chicago area seeing my coaches. And I think 0:22:34.080 --> 0:22:37.480 I found out last year that I was just wasn't 0:22:38.280 --> 0:22:41.959 I wasn't like physically or mentally ready to you know, 0:22:42.119 --> 0:22:46.520 start the season or when it came time for April 0:22:46.560 --> 0:22:49.040 and May that I wasn't all there, like mentally, like 0:22:49.040 --> 0:22:50.840 I was almost already burnt out. And we're not even 0:22:50.880 --> 0:22:53.960