Speaker 1: All right, we're back for episode Sime the Friday Podcast
Speaker 1: and to say we have the great guests. His name
Speaker 1: is Vince India. He's spent the last three years on
Speaker 1: the web dot Com Tour, also playing on PGA Tour
Speaker 1: Latin America and he's currently at in Miami for the
Speaker 1: PGA Latin America Championship and next week we'll be playing
Speaker 1: in the final stage of Hugh School. So Vince, thanks.
Speaker 2: For coming on, Thanks for having me, and this is
Speaker 2: this is pretty cool my first podcast.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's only our fifth, so you I've only got
Speaker 1: a little bit of experience over you.
Speaker 2: So well good, We're both made to it. Then, So
Speaker 2: Vince and.
Speaker 1: I know each other from Illinois golf. You know, he
Speaker 1: was one of the reasons that I never pursued a
Speaker 1: professional career of playing. In the two thousand and what
Speaker 1: was it ten or twenty eleven.
Speaker 2: That you were in ten state Amateur Samwichship. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: we should tell that story about that if you want to.
Speaker 1: Yeah, twenty ten state am I I had played two
Speaker 1: really good rounds of golf. I was even par and
Speaker 1: I was in you know, I was in the top
Speaker 1: ten and I was like nine shots back of Vince,
Speaker 1: and I was like, and then he ended up beating
Speaker 1: me by like twenty shots in the end, but his
Speaker 1: h his round got off to quite a start there
Speaker 1: and he fired a lot of good rounds to win
Speaker 1: at Beverly. Do you want to tell that story right
Speaker 1: off the back?
Speaker 2: Yeah? It was. It was going into my senior year
Speaker 2: of college at Iowa and started coming out as a
Speaker 2: pretty beefent amateur golfer at the mice finishes and didn't
Speaker 2: have any super high expectations for my senior year, qualified
Speaker 2: for the state am and you know, didn't have any
Speaker 2: massive expectations. And the summer of twenty ten will always
Speaker 2: be remembered as the summer smearing off ice was a massive,
Speaker 2: massive hit in my group of friends. And that's the
Speaker 2: situation where you know, you go out and buy a
Speaker 2: twelve pack of ice and you know you had a
Speaker 2: whole thing where you ice. Tell your friends you hide
Speaker 2: the spiring off ice like under a couch or under
Speaker 2: the pillow or in the or in the in the
Speaker 2: fridge when they want to go get a snack and
Speaker 2: all of a sudden you have to get on one
Speaker 2: knee and chuck it. So the day before the state am.
Speaker 2: I'm hanging on the berths with a few friends, and
Speaker 2: things probably got carried out a hand and I ended
Speaker 2: up getting ice five or six times, and you know,
Speaker 2: eight thirty two off time the next day, and I'm
Speaker 2: heading the wrong direction in sobriety, so I kind of
Speaker 2: waddow myself out to the to the outside area, feeling
Speaker 2: crappy with all the sugar in my stomach, and you know,
Speaker 2: at this point, I need to make myself feel better
Speaker 2: so I'm not hungover and you know, slashing around the
Speaker 2: golf course, so I try to make myself throw up,
Speaker 2: which you know, that seemed like the logical thing to
Speaker 2: do at that point, you know, get all the boos
Speaker 2: out of me, you know, hangovers gone, and you know,
Speaker 2: then we're off tomorrow morning and I have really First off,
Speaker 2: I'm definitely scared of throwing up in general. So this
Speaker 2: isn't my forte and I'm really struggling all of a
Speaker 2: sudden when my buddy comes out, huge fresh star at
Speaker 2: Madison and he's kind of coaching me through it, telling
Speaker 2: me what to do, and he gives me three key
Speaker 2: words of advice. And I just painted this guy's fence
Speaker 2: with vomit just everywhere. Go home next morning, steel, feel crappy.
Speaker 2: Get to the golf course, hungover, four over through six
Speaker 2: and I'm on the seventh hole of Beverly, on the
Speaker 2: back ninth of the sixteenth in the trees just past.
Speaker 2: You know you've been there. It's you're in jail. And
Speaker 2: I tried to punch on. I grounded it like ten feet.
Speaker 2: Who's cadding? I go, okay, hold on, I'll be right back.
Speaker 2: Go behind a tree, two fingers on the throat again,
Speaker 2: try to get everything out, and then I go back
Speaker 2: to this other punch shot almost the identical thing. Look up,
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, there's a window. There's a window like
Speaker 2: the size of maybe a lamp shade. Let's go through that.
Speaker 2: Hit it through there to like forty feet, make the putt,
Speaker 2: and then I played my last eight holes in seven
Speaker 2: under par, or I least eleven holes in seven under par,
Speaker 2: and then I ended up winning my seven. So it
Speaker 2: all started with uh, with that smearing offince, I guess it.
Speaker 1: Probably you know, it just got you in the right
Speaker 1: feeling for the last eleven once you got the last
Speaker 1: of the booze out of you, you know you were
Speaker 1: you were that perfect balance of hungover.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's the key. Sometimes every now and then
Speaker 2: you'll have a you have a pro am party in
Speaker 2: South America or in Columbia or whatever country you have
Speaker 2: down here, that it's almost a little bit too much fun.
Speaker 2: And yeah, it's hard to not overindulge. But I always
Speaker 2: look at it that, you know, sometimes you play a
Speaker 2: little bit better at golf when you're you're not focused
Speaker 2: on golf, like you know, let's say that you're not
Speaker 2: feeling good the next morning. You're just trying to make
Speaker 2: it step by step to the next golf shot, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like you're just focused on getting
Speaker 2: to your next golf trat without falling over and passing out.
Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden you're at the golf
Speaker 2: shot and you go, oh, well this is terrible enough.
Speaker 2: You're not thinking about what could possibly go wrong in between,
Speaker 2: you know, the the last shot on your next one.
Speaker 2: So you know, I gotta take everything in strade, I suppose.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it makes you not try too.
Speaker 2: Hard, which is yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: Like everybody I know.
Speaker 2: I try. Yeah, so yeah, I go through take some valleys,
Speaker 2: but sometimes I try too hard and I obviously try
Speaker 2: a little a little less at times, but that's all
Speaker 2: about balance. I suppose.
Speaker 1: You kind of hit on it. Some would call you
Speaker 1: a late bloomer in golf, where you know, sudden you
Speaker 1: kind of like first time the scene later in your
Speaker 1: college career. I mean, you won the State am was
Speaker 1: a like a big kind of jumping off point for you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that certainly it was a stepping stone. That summer
Speaker 2: in general was really good. I qualified for the US
Speaker 2: Amateur my first time and finished pretty high in the
Speaker 2: State Amateur match play, and then I won the State
Speaker 2: am at a really really nice golf course and beat
Speaker 2: a couple of the line I players and you know
Speaker 2: how good their team is, And that kind of kick
Speaker 2: started me into an awesome fall season at Iowa my
Speaker 2: senior year. And when all of a sudden, I was
Speaker 2: getting asked to, you know, play all these clubs for
Speaker 2: club manufacturers. So it's amazing stuffing changeing.
Speaker 1: How's that work when you, you know, are a really good
Speaker 1: college player, and like, what's like the turning pro process?
Speaker 1: Like and when did you know, like, hey, you know,
Speaker 1: I've got a real shot to play this.
Speaker 2: Road living oh man. The turning pro process is not
Speaker 2: as complicated as you think. The actual the actual turning
Speaker 2: point and when you're when you become a pro is
Speaker 2: you sign up for your first event and there's two
Speaker 2: boxes to check. There's one that says amateur and the
Speaker 2: one that says pro. And as soon as you click
Speaker 2: the pro box and press THEB my, you're technically a professional.
Speaker 2: So that's kind of underwhelming. But the process leading up
Speaker 2: to that, like behind the scenes with all the clubs
Speaker 2: and stuff. Usually kids in college will have some type
Speaker 2: of agreement with a company that they'll they'll send them products,
Speaker 2: you know, have them play their balls, watch as clubs, drivers,
Speaker 2: what have you. And then you know, depending on how
Speaker 2: how they turn out as a college player, those companies
Speaker 2: will we'll keep in contact and then approached them once
Speaker 2: they're a college. College career is over, and you know,
Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, you have a manufacturing in
Speaker 2: your back pocket, and you know, maybe they know a
Speaker 2: good friend that's an agent, and before that you have
Speaker 2: an agent and possibly more deals. So that's kind of
Speaker 2: how it works.
Speaker 1: So you're you're a Calvalay guy.
Speaker 2: Now have you always been a Calaway guy? Yeah? For
Speaker 2: as long as I remember, high school was a mixed
Speaker 2: bag of everything, whatever I could get my hands on,
Speaker 2: really didn't have a preference. And then sophomore year at Iowa,
Speaker 2: my coach set up an arrangement with Calway because they
Speaker 2: were looking to they were looking to send some products
Speaker 2: of a few college players and they didn't have a
Speaker 2: they didn't have very many playing their stuff at the time,
Speaker 2: and I was one of the lucky ones to see
Speaker 2: some products. And uh, I think it's been eight years
Speaker 2: now with Calloway, and I've seen I've seen the good,
Speaker 2: the bad, and the great, and it's amazing how far
Speaker 2: our company can go in eight years. And I've just
Speaker 2: seen how awesome their line has turned out in that time.
Speaker 1: I have you hit their new driver.
Speaker 2: It's apparently like what rate of what's it's called, like
Speaker 2: the epic or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, everybody's saying it's just crazy good. I haven't hit it,
Speaker 2: but I've also heard the exact same things, like a
Speaker 2: bunch of nickey guys that have gone to Callaway and
Speaker 2: fiddled with things over there. I've just said it's outstanding.
Speaker 2: So yeah, hopefully I'll I'll get to go and hit
Speaker 2: it when I go to the Calli Performance Center in
Speaker 2: January or whenever I head over there.
Speaker 1: That's uh, yeah, I want to get my hands down one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I need all the distance.
Speaker 1: Second get what uh.
Speaker 2: What I was gonna say? If I if I run
Speaker 2: across another one, maybe spare one. I could probably uh
Speaker 2: snag up on my favorite golf blogger. You know, as
Speaker 2: long as we get a Caloe logo on Friday, how's
Speaker 2: that's that? I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's a good deal for for Friday.
Speaker 2: That's fine. I guess the logos are expected. Probably looking
Speaker 2: for more than a SFE.
Speaker 1: We'll see, we'll see.
Speaker 2: We have a shortage of there, sorry, maybe a full.
Speaker 1: So tell us, uh, you know a little bit about
Speaker 1: Q School. I think it's the most undercovered golf event
Speaker 1: of the year because it's the only time you really
Speaker 1: see these guys you know, and not these guys you
Speaker 1: and all these other pros playing for essentially their livelihoods
Speaker 1: and their jobs. So uh huh can you can you
Speaker 1: walk us through like what the vibes who are like
Speaker 1: at each stage? And you know what, you know, the
Speaker 1: difference is as you move up to the final stage.
Speaker 2: Sure, let's see here, so there's four stages. You have
Speaker 2: and they're just they're all numbers differently. So the first
Speaker 2: stage is actually pre qualifying. Then you have the first
Speaker 2: which is the second stage technically, then second stage and
Speaker 2: final stage. And as a member of the Web dot
Speaker 2: Com I get a five pass pre qualifying, and then
Speaker 2: you go to the first stage, which is there's got
Speaker 2: to be ten or eleven sites throughout the country. Eighty
Speaker 2: players will be there. They take the load twenty five
Speaker 2: or so. And you know, you see some guys that
Speaker 2: you've seen from junior golf and college golf that are
Speaker 2: still playing golf, but you just haven't seen them as
Speaker 2: much as you probably should have since I've been playing
Speaker 2: out on Latino American and Web dot Com, and I
Speaker 2: think they've just kind of been hanging around playing state
Speaker 2: you know, mini tours and state opens like that. But
Speaker 2: you know, you really don't need to play great golf
Speaker 2: to get out of the first stage. You just kind
Speaker 2: of need not make doubles and just play solid golf,
Speaker 2: and that's really all it takes. You know, you could
Speaker 2: definitely play average golf to get out of there. You
Speaker 2: just can't play you just can't have any stretches of
Speaker 2: super bad golf that shoots you in the foot, but
Speaker 2: also underradedly. For me, first stage is you know, kind
Speaker 2: of stressful because you almost take it for granted. Like
Speaker 2: in my opinion, I think making thirty grand on the
Speaker 2: web dot com every year, the fact that there's twenty
Speaker 2: five guys that need to go back to first stage
Speaker 2: that are in the same position as I am, as
Speaker 2: it's kind of ridiculous that it's all of us almost
Speaker 2: make it out. It's like a stage anyways. I think
Speaker 2: it's just a waste of time, but also the fact
Speaker 2: that we have to go back there as we almost
Speaker 2: play the height of expectations and then you know, as
Speaker 2: soon as you start thinking about the outcome, before you know,
Speaker 2: you play around the golf, that's when weird stuff starts happening,
Speaker 2: and you know, lo and behold, I made it out
Speaker 2: the first stage on the number that's five hundred part
Speaker 2: at the twenty fifth spot. Now, so goofy stuff has
Speaker 2: And that's the best way I can describe a few
Speaker 2: school is like Murphy's on, whatever whatever bad can happen, will,
Speaker 2: is that how that goes, whatever can go wrong will,
Speaker 2: So you just think differently, You feel a little bit
Speaker 2: differently because you know, you are fighting for a job
Speaker 2: next year, and your decision making at times is just
Speaker 2: completely erroneous, like when.
Speaker 1: You're dormy and mass play like with a big lead
Speaker 1: and you're you dot, you take your foot off the
Speaker 1: gas almost right essentially.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that my situation the last round at first
Speaker 2: stage there, I was, I was three under after four
Speaker 2: like miles in front of the cut line, and I
Speaker 2: just started getting like real complacent with like every golf
Speaker 2: shot I hit up there, and it wasn't apparably easy
Speaker 2: golf course, like there was trouble to be found. But
Speaker 2: as soon as that started happening, you know, started making
Speaker 2: sloppy bogies and before I knew it, I needed a birdy,
Speaker 2: one of my left tools to get through, and you know,
Speaker 2: thank god I did. But you know, funny things just
Speaker 2: happened that you know, you wouldn't you wouldn't normally see
Speaker 2: during the rest of the year. Yeah, So when you
Speaker 2: go to second stage, it's.
Speaker 3: It's kind of like you're you know, if you make it,
Speaker 3: you've got.
Speaker 1: A job at their level, and if you don't have
Speaker 1: a job, So you know, second stage for the listeners
Speaker 1: that don't really understand it. If you get through second stage,
Speaker 1: you're assured some sort of status on the web dot
Speaker 1: com Tour, which is huge. Yeah, because you can get starts,
Speaker 1: you can get sponsors, more sponsors, exemptions. Correct.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's how That's what happened with Trey Mullenax.
Speaker 2: We played together two years ago at second stage. He
Speaker 2: got through them, finished almost that last of finals. I
Speaker 2: think at the sponsors invite, he wasn't going to get
Speaker 2: into anything on his number based off it's finish at
Speaker 2: Q school, but got a sponsor invite in the Bogata
Speaker 2: the first event of the year because Justin Thomas, you know,
Speaker 2: has some pull and leverage down there, and uh, well
Speaker 2: you know he finished well, he shuffled in and then
Speaker 2: kept his cards that year and then earned his PGA
Speaker 2: Tour card the next year. So you know what.
Speaker 1: School does Justin Thomas have in Bogata? You might need
Speaker 1: to explain that, explain that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's the same thing with the same thing
Speaker 2: with Jordan's pete. I think. So, I don't want to
Speaker 2: I don't want to speculate, but I'm almost certain there's
Speaker 2: some there's some financial pull down there that it is
Speaker 2: almost required for a sponsor invite. Ah, if you if
Speaker 2: you know of a person or you know you have
Speaker 2: a I have a guy that's willing to shell out,
Speaker 2: you know, X amount of dollars for what one of
Speaker 2: these sponsored exemptions might cost, then more than likely you'll
Speaker 2: get into the tournament.
Speaker 1: M hm, that's it. What do you so you've been
Speaker 1: at that same site for three straight years, that's second
Speaker 1: stage site and you've missed through all three years?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 1: Do you just love that golf course?
Speaker 2: What is Southern Pines Southern Hills in the Southern Hills
Speaker 2: Plantation in Brooksville, Florida. So it's a combination of the
Speaker 2: golf course and end of the arrangements. I kind of
Speaker 2: I kind of have stuff when I go there. So
Speaker 2: for anyone that hasn't been in Brooksville, it's forty five
Speaker 2: to fifty minutes north of Tampa, kind of in the middle. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Central Florida. Pretty much not a whole lot going on.
Speaker 2: People in their free time life to go ATV ATV riding,
Speaker 2: like to go shoot guns, you know, do some pretty
Speaker 2: weird stuff, and there's not a whole lot to do
Speaker 2: up there. The places, to say, are a daze in
Speaker 2: maybe a Hampton End, like twelve miles away, so it
Speaker 2: can be kind of a rough place to go you
Speaker 2: don't have the right people on your side. And luckily
Speaker 2: my first year there, I got in touch with a
Speaker 2: nice family within the community and they've kind of taken
Speaker 2: me under their wing. And maybe I wouldn't even call it,
Speaker 2: I don't remember, but they let me come down and
Speaker 2: stay on property and play at the golf course whenever
Speaker 2: I want. And it's almost like I have like a
Speaker 2: whole group of friends in Southern Hills Plantations. Whenever I
Speaker 2: go down there, it's like like we pick up right
Speaker 2: where we left off. So that's that helps a ton,
Speaker 2: to be honest, you know, staying in like a nice house,
Speaker 2: having people to interact around around you and feels it
Speaker 2: feels a little bit more like home, which is nice.
Speaker 2: And then the golf course is I think, pretty fantastic
Speaker 2: on top of that.
Speaker 1: So that kind of touches on something I wanted to
Speaker 1: talk about later. So you know, play that Latin Americans
Speaker 1: who are when you're in snicker Rock and Argentina and Venezuela,
Speaker 1: like what happens when you miss a cut? Like what
Speaker 1: do you do in your free time?
Speaker 2: Like, in general, what do you do in your free time.
Speaker 2: That's entirely dependent on what city we go to and
Speaker 2: like how close we are to city center. So let's
Speaker 2: say let's say we're in Bogota, Colombia, and the last
Speaker 2: couple of terms we've played in Bogata, we've stayed in
Speaker 2: the city and she made it out to the golf
Speaker 2: course maybe half hour forty five minutes. If I miss
Speaker 2: the cut in Bogata, there is maybe a five to
Speaker 2: seven percent chance that I'd go to the golf course
Speaker 2: that weekend, because more often than not, after missing a
Speaker 2: cut on Friday, I'll be going out to dinner with friends,
Speaker 2: more than likely not going out to the bars and
Speaker 2: experiencing nightlife. Then comes Saturday. I mean, the thing is,
Speaker 2: people party down there until four or five in the morning,
Speaker 2: and you know, you're not going to get home from
Speaker 2: the bars until you know, four thirty five, even five
Speaker 2: point thirty, who knows, And by that time you're in
Speaker 2: no shape to go to the golf course. So you
Speaker 2: might as well just scratch Saturday off. You're gonna be
Speaker 2: borizontal for most of the day, and you know, depending
Speaker 2: on how how you se on the later Saturday night,
Speaker 2: you either you go back out and do it again,
Speaker 2: or you know, you try to recuperate and have a
Speaker 2: productive Sunday. So, yeah, it really depends on the city,
Speaker 2: and I will always try to spend as little time
Speaker 2: as possible in a hotel room or an airbnb or
Speaker 2: I'm whoever I'm saying. So if I'm at the cut,
Speaker 2: more than likely that I'll be out doing the seeing
Speaker 2: the sights and check it out the city. So somebody,
Speaker 2: you know, once.
Speaker 1: Told me that it's you know, professional golf. You know,
Speaker 1: the difference between professional golf and college golf is really
Speaker 1: how you're able to handle travel, being on the road,
Speaker 1: being away from friends and family, Like, would you say
Speaker 1: that's probably the hardest thing about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, it's got to be different for a guy
Speaker 2: that are married, didn't have families, but it's forever anyone
Speaker 2: that's not. It's certainly not easy. Yeah, it's especially having
Speaker 2: a language barrier down there and having people down there
Speaker 2: and look at you differently. You almost feel like you're
Speaker 2: not welcomed or you know, not appreciated. So and then
Speaker 2: and then if if you don't have like a decent
Speaker 2: group of friends down here, it makes it even tougher.
Speaker 2: So that's, uh, that's one of the hard parts. And
Speaker 2: I'm pretty fortunate to have a good group of guys
Speaker 2: that are to hang out with and spend my time
Speaker 2: with if I ever if I ever need a some
Speaker 2: time away from golf. Yeah, that's.
Speaker 3: How How's that?
Speaker 1: How's kind of like your golf life balance change. I
Speaker 1: imagine when you first turn pro, like you're just going golf, golf,
Speaker 1: golf all the time.
Speaker 2: You hit a point.
Speaker 1: Where like you're like, you know, I got to have balance,
Speaker 1: And then what what do you like to do, like
Speaker 1: when you're not practicing, Like, you know, what do you
Speaker 1: do with all your downtime state when you're traveling and
Speaker 1: you're away.
Speaker 2: That's a good question. You kind of hit it on
Speaker 2: the head there. Like right out of college, I was
Speaker 2: just you know, pumped and move to Florida and play
Speaker 2: golf year round. And I did that for three straight years.
Speaker 2: You know, whenever, whenever I wasn't on the road, I'd
Speaker 2: be home in Florida practicing and playing, or even up
Speaker 2: in the Chicago area seeing my coaches. And I think
Speaker 2: I found out last year that I was just wasn't
Speaker 2: I wasn't like physically or mentally ready to you know,
Speaker 2: start the season or when it came time for April
Speaker 2: and May that I wasn't all there, like mentally, like
Speaker 2: I was almost already burnt out. And we're not even
Speaker 2: halfway down with the calendar year. So this year I
Speaker 2: decided to change it up. For last year, I suppose
Speaker 2: I'm going to winter in Chicago for the foreseeable future
Speaker 2: and possibly the year round, just because that's how I
Speaker 2: did it in college. You know, we had a solid
Speaker 2: month and a half two months off of ah, not
Speaker 2: a whole lot of golf. We worked out and you
Speaker 2: know we hit balls indoors sometimes, but no traveling, no grinding,
Speaker 2: you know, no pressure on scoring or you know, tournament results.
Speaker 2: And I think that's kind of what I needed. I needed.
Speaker 2: I needed some downtime and time to freshen up. And
Speaker 2: I think that's I wouldn't say it's a recipe for everybody,
Speaker 2: but certainly the way I need to operate.
Speaker 1: I think that, Uh, you see, guys, with the way
Speaker 1: the professional golf landscapes turned into a year round calendar thing.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, he like Jason Day.
Speaker 3: Shuts it down after the FedEx Cup.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think last year he didn't play until he didn't.
Speaker 1: He said he didn't touch a club until uh that
Speaker 1: Kapaloo turned him, even though I thinked out other things
Speaker 1: about how he just worked on a short game and
Speaker 1: putting all the time. But at the same sense, like
Speaker 1: time away from the game, I think is always good.
Speaker 1: I think I see it even like if I start
Speaker 1: playing bad, if I take a week two weeks off
Speaker 1: in the summer, does younger you.
Speaker 2: Know, Yeah, I'm the biggest proponent of less as far
Speaker 2: at times, so you'll see me often than not takes
Speaker 2: extended time away from the game of golf, and I
Speaker 2: think it does wonders for not only your bodies just
Speaker 2: because of how bad the golfing is first joint, No,
Speaker 2: you're back and all that, but also for your mental
Speaker 2: mental stability, as you probably know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so so tell me if the you Monday qualified
Speaker 1: this year for the Belts are so now you've played
Speaker 1: on the PGA Tour, the Web dot Com Tour, and
Speaker 1: the Latin American Tour.
Speaker 2: What is it?
Speaker 1: What's just the difference in experience as a player on
Speaker 1: each of those tours. Like from I obviously know that
Speaker 1: it's gotta be a huge difference from America Tour to
Speaker 1: the to the PGA Tour. But walk us through what
Speaker 1: it's like to be inside the ropes on each of
Speaker 1: those tours.
Speaker 2: Well, let's start at the bottom here. Depending on what
Speaker 2: type of event it is. On Latino America, you either
Speaker 2: get nobody out here or you'll get a decent crowd.
Speaker 2: Like let's just take the Argentine Open last week. That's
Speaker 2: that's a staple on the tour by far, the best
Speaker 2: run event, biggest crowds. And you know you have Fabian
Speaker 2: Gobas playing Emiliano Grillo and on Helberra as well, so
Speaker 2: you're gonna get I have to say there was at
Speaker 2: least a couple of thousand people out there, and yeah,
Speaker 2: it's nice to see people out and it's uh as
Speaker 2: my first impression, my first event out here was I
Speaker 2: was certainly uncomfortable because it was uh you know, you
Speaker 2: saw banners and you saw everything roped off in grandstands,
Speaker 2: and in twenty fourteen or thirteen, I was I was
Speaker 2: that was that was new to me. This was cool,
Speaker 2: like I'm playing on a legitimate tour. And then I
Speaker 2: slowly built up a talents. You know, I felt comfortable
Speaker 2: playing with people in front of me, and you know,
Speaker 2: then you get to the web dot Com and it's like,
Speaker 2: you know, it starts all over again, like there's more people,
Speaker 2: you're playing for more money. You know, the players are better,
Speaker 2: the golf courses are better, and you know, I still live,
Speaker 2: been getting comfortable out there, and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: you know, I qualified for the Valist line, and you know,
Speaker 2: it's like a whole new level of uncomfortableness. You know,
Speaker 2: instead of you know a few hundred people, there's tens
Speaker 2: of thousands of people, and there's you know, all the
Speaker 2: people that you see you know that you've watched growing up,
Speaker 2: or you know, hitting bunker shots. Next year you're putting
Speaker 2: right next to like DJ skin Lucdal is just really
Speaker 2: bank cool. But you know, it's kind of all about
Speaker 2: getting your feet web. That's what I told everybody is that,
Speaker 2: you know, the games aren't very different between the top
Speaker 2: players on web dot Com and some of those guys
Speaker 2: that keep their PG Tour card every year. It's just
Speaker 2: you know, they kind of know what to expect and
Speaker 2: they handle themselves pretty dang well in some situations. And
Speaker 2: that's really all it is. Yeah, I think every golfer
Speaker 2: struggles with when you.
Speaker 1: Move up a level, you get a little uncomfortable, and
Speaker 1: when you're uncomfortable, bad things happen in your swing and
Speaker 1: exactly tend.
Speaker 2: To go out across the rails a little bit quicker.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: It's it's interesting.
Speaker 2: It's that. So you know in terms of.
Speaker 1: You know, the web dot com where where you've played
Speaker 1: most of your golf, Like you know, who's been the
Speaker 1: most impressive guy that you've played with? Where you've really
Speaker 1: been like, wow, this guy's really good, and you know
Speaker 1: they could either have made it to the PGA toury
Speaker 1: or haven't made it yet.
Speaker 2: Well, if we really turned back the talk when I
Speaker 2: played with Padeki Matsuyama in twenty and eleven when we
Speaker 2: were both amateurs, still, that's h that's kind of knew
Speaker 2: how good the players were coming up because this guy
Speaker 2: was top five in the world amateur rankings. Like, man,
Speaker 2: how good can he be? I'm like, I'm like twenty five.
Speaker 2: He can't be that much beigher than me, And yeah
Speaker 2: he shot sixty two, So give meredemes.
Speaker 1: Where did you play with him?
Speaker 2: That was at the World of University Games and like
Speaker 2: a deef and golf court's not overly easy by any means.
Speaker 2: And I think I shot one or two under, And
Speaker 2: I mean he literally hit like sixty two for pick
Speaker 2: golf shot. I thought, and I got, wow, it looks
Speaker 2: like I got a long way to go. Yeah, he
Speaker 2: was definitely one of them. Played a lot of golf
Speaker 2: with Russell Henley before before he got in the PGA Tours,
Speaker 2: both in college and then every now and then a
Speaker 2: few Hooters Hooters events. I always know he was gonna
Speaker 2: he was gonna get out there. The guy's just a
Speaker 2: crazy good athlete and then awesome competitor. So he was
Speaker 2: another one. And probably John Peterson too wild. John Peterson,
Speaker 2: great ball striker, good good guy, hits it on a
Speaker 2: frozen rope every time. And I've been playing with him
Speaker 2: a few times in college and on many tour stuff.
Speaker 2: I staid, yeah, at the time, I'll see you out there. Yeah,
Speaker 2: So those are a couple that come to mind.
Speaker 1: He's a big hunter, huge, might might be hunting more
Speaker 1: than he's golfing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's you know, he's really gotten into Instagram these days,
Speaker 2: especially the far right now opinions. But uh, John's a
Speaker 2: good guy. Comes from a great family, and I like
Speaker 2: what he's doing. You know, he's reached out and he
Speaker 2: found his he found his niche, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: He's found his his group of followers and he appeals
Speaker 2: to them and he's honestly quite a funny guy. Did
Speaker 2: you see what he did with his Christmas Lives?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: No, oh, it's outstanding. It's uh. He put it on
Speaker 2: Instagram and he he syncd it up all with some
Speaker 2: Christmas song and apparently he took him five days and
Speaker 2: it's like something straight out like Chris Wald. It's hysterical.
Speaker 2: So I would really recommend looking at that.
Speaker 1: That as a PGA to remember, you know, doing very
Speaker 1: well that he.
Speaker 3: He did it all himself.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he did, and he loved that. He's uh, I
Speaker 2: think as his second year of doing it, and I
Speaker 2: think he knew that people liked when he put up
Speaker 2: his Christmas Life last year, and then I think he
Speaker 2: outdid himself this year. And yeah, I can't wait to
Speaker 2: hear what you think when you watch the Instagram video.
Speaker 2: It's just so comical and if you know John at all,
Speaker 2: then it makes perfect sense because he's.
Speaker 1: So goofy for all the listeners I'll in bed, I'll
Speaker 1: find that Instagram post and embedded on the podcast stage
Speaker 1: so everybody doesn't.
Speaker 2: Have to look for his legendary.
Speaker 1: So, you know, tell us, tell us your best story
Speaker 1: from from your travel.
Speaker 2: You know, are we talking like golf story or you know,
Speaker 2: you know, laugh, maybe because there's a ton of them.
Speaker 2: Some of them are I don't really remember, but the
Speaker 2: one I was just talking about with some friends here.
Speaker 1: I mean, I would say either or you know, the
Speaker 1: best story from either of West dot Com who are at.
Speaker 2: This course in Miami and one of the friends that
Speaker 2: traveled with me. Either or either or well, uh, we'll
Speaker 2: start with my first year out here, and and I'm
Speaker 2: I run into my old friend yesterday who's ahead of
Speaker 2: the golf course, and we were telling each other stories
Speaker 2: of the one that we kind of went back to
Speaker 2: frequently was turnap KNDA and the Dominican and the tour
Speaker 2: put us up at the Rock Hotel Casino. I who
Speaker 2: who's out of you? You're gonna one hundred and fifty
Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty, you know, twenty early twenty males
Speaker 2: to a resort destination, all inclusive, nonetheless, and expect them
Speaker 2: to have like a tournament. Well, I ended up walking
Speaker 2: golf course after twenty seven holes go over far and
Speaker 2: all I wanted to do, So I went to the
Speaker 2: b and later that night went out to the clubs.
Speaker 2: A couple of guys that weren't kind of snuffed through
Speaker 2: through the back entrance, which is pretty fun, Like you
Speaker 2: need you need a break at the kind of resort. Uh,
Speaker 2: I think you get us courted by police if be caught.
Speaker 2: But two of our friends were stuck in somehow ship
Speaker 2: and everything's funky. Dorry, we go to you know, hit
Speaker 2: the roulette tables, you know, say one o'clock. Then our friend, uh,
Speaker 2: we'll call We'll call him Paul. Our call. This team
Speaker 2: running up being chased by three or four big bousers
Speaker 2: and uh he kind of looked you feel like a
Speaker 2: person and do some some very very limited, uh limited practice.
Speaker 2: And I get to the range and I see Paul
Speaker 2: emerged from the brush behind the range, and he's walking
Speaker 2: along the cart path toward the top house, and I
Speaker 2: can kind of just see him, and I'm trying to
Speaker 2: think to myself, what in God's name is he getting
Speaker 2: out here? Makes his way to the front of the range.
Speaker 2: I have a conversation. I go, Paul, what what the
Speaker 2: hell happened? Where have you been? He goes, Vince, I
Speaker 2: just slept in a bunker on the sixteenth fairway. He
Speaker 2: outran the security guards in the pitch black of night,
Speaker 2: somehow found his way to the golf course and the
Speaker 2: sixteenth that's kind of close the hotel. He ran back first
Speaker 2: down the sixteenth and hid in a pot bunker and
Speaker 2: slept in it overnight, and then walk down the driving
Speaker 2: range backwards pretty much had a reverse walker shame and
Speaker 2: the fire, you know, tournament staff and officials.
Speaker 1: Was Was Paul a player in the field?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Paul is a player in the field, not just
Speaker 2: like myself. But uh, that's just that's just the type
Speaker 2: of things I going on here. That's good fun, that's great.
Speaker 1: I mean, I wonder what it what it was like
Speaker 1: sleeping in a pot hunker could.
Speaker 2: Be it had to be questionable. This golf course was
Speaker 2: cut out of the jungle, so I only knows whether
Speaker 2: what other stuff was like walking around to you at
Speaker 2: that point of night. There had to be panthers, yeah,
Speaker 2: possibly monkeys, definitely snakes and giant lizards. So yeah, hats
Speaker 2: off to Paul for sleeping in a bunker. That's just
Speaker 2: legendary right there. Absolutely love it. He's a legend.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's terrific. H So well, uh, let's get into
Speaker 1: some reader questions here, mm hmmm. So we've got one
Speaker 1: from We've got a couple here from Rabbi Jeevich. He uh,
Speaker 1: he wants to know what is your pre round meal
Speaker 1: and does it change throughout the week.
Speaker 2: That's a great question. Breakfast is always the same, I
Speaker 2: will say before I go to bed, I will have
Speaker 2: three three whiskeys. That's always a consistent and sometimes it's
Speaker 2: three and a half, but it's never more than four.
Speaker 2: So that's uh, that's usually what I what I call
Speaker 2: my three round meal, is my three scotches or three whiskeys.
Speaker 1: Does it just it helps you sleep? I imagine, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: amongst other things.
Speaker 2: You know, it helps you sleep, It takes yet job
Speaker 2: and thanks your mind off off a little bit. So
Speaker 2: you know, I think that's my it's my pre and
Speaker 2: my post round.
Speaker 1: You know, I suppose what's what's your whiskey of choice
Speaker 1: or scotch of choice? Are you more of a whiskey
Speaker 1: fan than a scotch fan?
Speaker 2: It really depends on how I play because one is
Speaker 2: so much more expensive than the other. So if I'm
Speaker 2: playing good, and let's say I made a decent check
Speaker 2: in a Latino event and I happen to go by
Speaker 2: duty free, I'll reward myself with a decent bottle of Scotch.
Speaker 2: But if I'm traveling's black, Q School is a good
Speaker 2: a good, a good example that, like first stage, there
Speaker 2: is no first same thing with second stage. So you
Speaker 2: know you don't want to spend a whole lot of money,
Speaker 2: So let's go buy a twenty five dollar bottle up
Speaker 2: Buffalo Trace and put on the rocks every night, you know.
Speaker 1: M That's so if you if you went on like
Speaker 1: a ten straight Misscutt event, we might see you drinking
Speaker 1: like Evan Williams.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, the class Evan Williams, the well like count
Speaker 2: Oh gross, Yeah, I'd be drinking like a Canadian club
Speaker 2: or something like that. Gross.
Speaker 1: All right, Robbie also wants to know what's the best
Speaker 1: shot you've ever hit?
Speaker 2: Geez, Robbie, So I think okay, probably for the magnitude
Speaker 2: of this situation was my first school final round, the
Speaker 2: sixth and final round of twenty fourteen Q School, where
Speaker 2: I'm two back of the cut number with two to play,
Speaker 2: and I'm playing PJA West that stadium course. Are you
Speaker 2: familiar with it at all?
Speaker 1: Uh? Yeah, yeah, the one that sends every year.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So for anyone that can't picture that seventeenth hole,
Speaker 2: it's that island green that looks like algat Dress all
Speaker 2: the rocks around it. It's similar to the seventeenth at StarCraft,
Speaker 2: except it's thirty yards longer and you're elevated ten yards
Speaker 2: above the green.
Speaker 1: I think the greens them all are two, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it certainly looks smaller from up there as well.
Speaker 2: And I think that day was I don't even know
Speaker 2: it's in between like one hundred and sixty five hundred
Speaker 2: and seventy yards. Pin is back right like it's almost
Speaker 2: in that stupid walkway, Like it doesn't even look like
Speaker 2: it's on the green. And I need to make two
Speaker 2: birdies coming in. Sorry, one birdie. I just birdied the
Speaker 2: sixteenth hole. I needed to play my last three and
Speaker 2: two under, and I'm looking at this pin and I
Speaker 2: just kind of manned up and I hit an eight
Speaker 2: iron right at it, and it landed six inches shore
Speaker 2: of the hole and nestled up to within my finger length.
Speaker 2: You know, I couldn't miss it if I tried, so, uh,
Speaker 2: if that had to be for the situation. You know
Speaker 2: that that was my first year on web dot com
Speaker 2: and that probably went a pretty far away into helping
Speaker 2: my experience and my uh my confidence in my game
Speaker 2: of golf just you know, playing that whole year on
Speaker 2: web dot com as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I say.
Speaker 2: So.
Speaker 1: Tommy Kays wants to know if there are any special
Speaker 1: ladies in your life? Very personal question.
Speaker 2: Oh, super personal. Well, yeah, to be fair, my putter
Speaker 2: and I have been on pretty good term plately. I
Speaker 2: got starur there for a little bit. I thought about, uh,
Speaker 2: I thought about steparating the beads and maybe go sleeping
Speaker 2: in the uh sleeping in the living room for a
Speaker 2: little bit. But she's come around, and uh, she's starting
Speaker 2: to she's starting to pull her weight around here. But
Speaker 2: so far, she's my She's my one and only lady.
Speaker 3: Does she have a name?
Speaker 2: Oh? Does she have a name. Oh, well, she does
Speaker 2: have a name, but we shall call her Valerie. How's that?
Speaker 1: Valerie?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can go with that.
Speaker 2: I don't think number seven.
Speaker 1: I don't think you'll meet any ladies in our respective
Speaker 1: age group or many named.
Speaker 2: Valerie, so exactly only only down here in Columbia.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that isn't I guess that that isn't that uncommon.
Speaker 1: But see, you know, you could go Babs, you know Barbara.
Speaker 2: I could go bad. Well, we'll figure it out. I
Speaker 2: guess I can't put a name on her yet. Well, brainstorm,
Speaker 2: we'll see how she's down here the next couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the next two weeks are big, two weeks for
Speaker 1: for for val Yeah, you.
Speaker 2: Might as well just ask me then, and you know,
Speaker 2: I'll give you an answer in two weeks time. So Scott,
Speaker 2: Scott g had.
Speaker 1: A couple of architecture questions, and I know you're you're
Speaker 1: an architecture fan.
Speaker 2: So uh huh, what's your favorite type of course to play?
Speaker 1: Like where you you like to play the most? Is
Speaker 1: it like you know, a bomber shop maker course like
Speaker 1: small greens type fairways or wide?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Where where do you feel like you have the
Speaker 1: best advantage?
Speaker 2: Where I play well is long golf courses where you
Speaker 2: have to hit a lot of drivers but not overly tied.
Speaker 2: You know, there's there's a space to hit it, obviously,
Speaker 2: and then when you are coming into the greens, you
Speaker 2: have a lot of seven irons through nine irons. That's
Speaker 2: my favorite type of golf course and that's probably why
Speaker 2: I keep going back to Southern Hills so often, because
Speaker 2: you have like three wadges and the rest are nine
Speaker 2: irons through six irons, And uh, that's kind of where
Speaker 2: I feel. I feel like that's my niche, that's what
Speaker 2: I what's what I do best is mid iron play.
Speaker 2: So I probably should go work on my wedges since
Speaker 2: the web dot Com Tours all drivers and flip wedges.
Speaker 1: So but that's what I was just gonna say, is
Speaker 1: that it doesn't seem like that's what the web dot Com
Speaker 1: Tour is about.
Speaker 2: Do you know that?
Speaker 3: You know, like with the web dot Com like is
Speaker 3: it I you know, you look at where you played
Speaker 3: well last year and for the most part there they
Speaker 3: were at courses that were deemed like.
Speaker 2: More or less PGA Tour style setups. Do you feel
Speaker 2: like that the.
Speaker 1: You know, the general courses you know, don't really aren't
Speaker 1: really a good predictor of futures success on the PGA
Speaker 1: Tour because they're, you know, really the courses are just
Speaker 1: basically bomb and gouge Central all over.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, yeah, you pretty much nailed it there.
Speaker 2: You can get away with a lot of stuff, a
Speaker 2: lot of Aaron shots, Aaron decision making. There's not a
Speaker 2: whole lot of places where you need to where you
Speaker 2: need to do a lot of planning on the web
Speaker 2: dot com in reference to your in reference to where
Speaker 2: you want to put the ball in the spare way,
Speaker 2: where you want to leave it on the green, and
Speaker 2: things like that. There's only a maybe a handful, maybe
Speaker 2: a half a dozen that that really will spark your
Speaker 2: spark your attention. So it's I think it's getting better.
Speaker 2: They've hated some good golf courses the last couple of years,
Speaker 2: and I know there are more on the table for
Speaker 2: next year, but yeah, it's it's it's like we'll see
Speaker 2: next week or at Orange County National for Q School Finals.
Speaker 2: Both of those golf courses are near seventy four hundred
Speaker 2: yards long. And a friend I just talked to who
Speaker 2: play who played it yesterday. So the fairways aren't rolling,
Speaker 2: and the majority of the clubs are gonna you know,
Speaker 2: they're gonna be like five four, maybe even a couple
Speaker 2: six and seven irons in the end of the par
Speaker 2: four US, So you know, then an accurate qualifying school
Speaker 2: for the web dot com? Probably not, But I think
Speaker 2: what it comes down to is that the best players
Speaker 2: get out every year. You know, the top twenty, the
Speaker 2: top twenty five. All those guys are gonna have to
Speaker 2: play in the PGA too. Are sure? There's a couple
Speaker 2: of guys that kind of snuck their way in there,
Speaker 2: you know, maybe maybe fiddling it around with good watch
Speaker 2: play and shoddy driving, But you know, the cream of
Speaker 2: the crop always rise at the top, and you know,
Speaker 2: I guess I guess that's really all that matters. You know, that's.
Speaker 1: So with uh, you know, Where's what's your favorite stop
Speaker 1: on the web dot com too? Are?
Speaker 2: Oh, that's a good question. In Greenville, South Carolina was
Speaker 2: very fun. That's probably one of the best run tournaments
Speaker 2: sponsored by BMW and and sin next. I believe they
Speaker 2: treat the players very well. There's a bunch of restaurants
Speaker 2: in downtown Greenville that will will give us meals. I
Speaker 2: remember Trey Millnex took a bunch of guys out right
Speaker 2: after his win in Raleigh the week before, and if
Speaker 2: they racked up like a two thousand dollars bar tap
Speaker 2: and it was all waved. All they had to do,
Speaker 2: you know, tip the waiters and waitresses handle it. They
Speaker 2: treat us nicely there, and we get to go. We
Speaker 2: get to go to the BMW test facility and just
Speaker 2: affuse their cars for as long as we want to.
Speaker 2: So that's always good fun. Okay, that is sweet. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's a nast part.
Speaker 1: I missed this question from Scott Gee, who's your favorite architect?
Speaker 2: Oh, that's a nice one. Well, ever since I've played
Speaker 2: Short Acres about a month or two ago, Seth Rainer's
Speaker 2: got to be up there. He's Uh, I've played a
Speaker 2: handful of his golf courses, and the way he he
Speaker 2: uses terrain and landscape and how he appeals that good
Speaker 2: golfers and bad golfers alike is just outstanding.
Speaker 3: So that.
Speaker 2: I really think golf architecture is kind of coming into
Speaker 2: a rebirth or like a revival stage where people are
Speaker 2: understanding that, you know, golf courses don't need to be
Speaker 2: these you know, big bunker, massive green complex like you
Speaker 2: see it like Reece Jones or Robert Trent Jones golf courses.
Speaker 2: You know, you know, there should be more runoffs and
Speaker 2: opportunities to use the putter because you know, the the
Speaker 2: high handicapper, they should use the putter more often. It's easier,
Speaker 2: but the low handicapper is going to want to chip
Speaker 2: it just because of out of pure ego. And you know,
Speaker 2: you might see the high end of camper getting up
Speaker 2: and down more often than the low handa camper does
Speaker 2: with all these you know, collection areas and in the
Speaker 2: fairway cut around those areas. So I think I think
Speaker 2: it's coming around. I know Jack Nicholas is, we'redoing a
Speaker 2: lot of his golf courses that way. Gil Hants is
Speaker 2: a fantastic designer. And then I can't say enough good
Speaker 2: things about Tom Doe and God, who's the other guy,
Speaker 2: Bill Krohr and Sun Crunch, how those those duo. They're
Speaker 2: doing some really wondrous things around the golf golf landscape
Speaker 2: as well.
Speaker 1: What's the what's your favorite course that you've gotten the
Speaker 1: player or maybe not favorite?
Speaker 2: Top three?
Speaker 1: I know number one always and it's impossible to rank
Speaker 1: golf courses.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for me right now after playing short Acres the
Speaker 2: first time, awesome, that's that's number one right now. Just
Speaker 2: the amount of good holes out there that were either
Speaker 2: you know, even the short holes in the part threes
Speaker 2: out there are fantastic. You know, nothing to push over.
Speaker 2: You know, you can't you can't slip up on that
Speaker 2: golf course. Can't let your can't let your mind go
Speaker 2: Otherwise you know you're going to find yourself on the
Speaker 2: wrong side of a whole location. God, you can't even
Speaker 2: get the pot within ten feet sometimes. So I like
Speaker 2: to play that seth design that place, and it's that
Speaker 2: that was like a that was like a out of
Speaker 2: body experience. Going to short Acres the.
Speaker 1: First time that I've played there so many times and
Speaker 1: you know, luckily and I haven't found, of course better.
Speaker 2: It's awesome. It's just the best. Yeah, the ravines and
Speaker 2: it's outstanding.
Speaker 1: The thing I find hilarious is that somehow golf DIY
Speaker 1: just says there's ninety eight better courses in the world
Speaker 1: in that or in the US than that, which.
Speaker 2: That just that doesn't make sense to me.
Speaker 1: I've played a lot of them ahead of it, and
Speaker 1: it's it's just criminal. It probably speaks more to their
Speaker 1: the quality of raiders that they have than anything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they have one of the hardest part fours I've
Speaker 2: ever played, one of the best short part threes and
Speaker 2: also one of the best short part fours I've ever
Speaker 2: I played as well. So, yeah, I played a lot
Speaker 2: of golf, I'd like to say, And yeah, that does
Speaker 2: a lot.
Speaker 1: Are you talking about ten is the hardest part? Four?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Hold them well obviously, And then what's the what's.
Speaker 1: The short part for? Is it thirteen or eleven?
Speaker 2: Thirteen's pretty good. I like thirteen a lot. And then
Speaker 2: also number two I thought was really clever. Oh, too's awesome,
Speaker 2: too fantastic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like that's the I For those of you
Speaker 1: that aren't familiar with shortreakers, I'm gonna post a review
Speaker 1: of it this week. Been Yeah, it's it's just spectacular
Speaker 1: steps Rainer course that I think the poles ten through
Speaker 1: seventeen is probably one of the best stretches of golf
Speaker 1: and have like ever created.
Speaker 2: And it really is.
Speaker 1: Outside of you know, you look at like seaside courses,
Speaker 1: there aren't many courses that are you know, more kind
Speaker 1: of like jaw dropping beautiful than short acres is, so
Speaker 1: I agree, yeah, And then so it's it's it's been
Speaker 1: good having you on.
Speaker 2: Man, Thanks thanks for having me. And that was good fun. Well,
Speaker 2: then I hope you had a good time. I hope
Speaker 2: everyone's going to enjoy this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, anything, Uh, you know, we hopefully, if anything,
Speaker 1: we've given more people one more name to watch. Next
Speaker 1: week and then this week also at the at the
Speaker 1: finals for Latin America Tour.
Speaker 2: So good luck and uh, we'll be uh, we'll.
Speaker 1: Be tracking, you know, we'll be sending out a lot
Speaker 1: of tweets about the into India's status.
Speaker 2: Awesome, thanks guys. Yeah, so we'll talk to you doing
Speaker 2: in good luck. Thanks, Andy, he speaks to you. And
Speaker 2: I'll see when I'm back in Chicago, all right later
Speaker 2: ye