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Speaker 1: All right, we're back for episode Sime the Friday Podcast

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Speaker 1: and to say we have the great guests. His name

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Speaker 1: is Vince India. He's spent the last three years on

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Speaker 1: the web dot Com Tour, also playing on PGA Tour

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Speaker 1: Latin America and he's currently at in Miami for the

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Speaker 1: PGA Latin America Championship and next week we'll be playing

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Speaker 1: in the final stage of Hugh School. So Vince, thanks.

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Speaker 2: For coming on, Thanks for having me, and this is

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Speaker 2: this is pretty cool my first podcast.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's only our fifth, so you I've only got

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Speaker 1: a little bit of experience over you.

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Speaker 2: So well good, We're both made to it. Then, So

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Speaker 2: Vince and.

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Speaker 1: I know each other from Illinois golf. You know, he

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Speaker 1: was one of the reasons that I never pursued a

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Speaker 1: professional career of playing. In the two thousand and what

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Speaker 1: was it ten or twenty eleven.

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Speaker 2: That you were in ten state Amateur Samwichship. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: we should tell that story about that if you want to.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, twenty ten state am I I had played two

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Speaker 1: really good rounds of golf. I was even par and

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Speaker 1: I was in you know, I was in the top

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Speaker 1: ten and I was like nine shots back of Vince,

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Speaker 1: and I was like, and then he ended up beating

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Speaker 1: me by like twenty shots in the end, but his

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Speaker 1: h his round got off to quite a start there

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Speaker 1: and he fired a lot of good rounds to win

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Speaker 1: at Beverly. Do you want to tell that story right

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Speaker 1: off the back?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? It was. It was going into my senior year

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Speaker 2: of college at Iowa and started coming out as a

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Speaker 2: pretty beefent amateur golfer at the mice finishes and didn't

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Speaker 2: have any super high expectations for my senior year, qualified

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Speaker 2: for the state am and you know, didn't have any

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Speaker 2: massive expectations. And the summer of twenty ten will always

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Speaker 2: be remembered as the summer smearing off ice was a massive,

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Speaker 2: massive hit in my group of friends. And that's the

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Speaker 2: situation where you know, you go out and buy a

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Speaker 2: twelve pack of ice and you know you had a

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Speaker 2: whole thing where you ice. Tell your friends you hide

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Speaker 2: the spiring off ice like under a couch or under

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Speaker 2: things probably got carried out a hand and I ended

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Speaker 2: up getting ice five or six times, and you know,

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Speaker 2: heading the wrong direction in sobriety, so I kind of

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Speaker 2: at this point, I need to make myself feel better

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Speaker 2: so I'm not hungover and you know, slashing around the

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Speaker 2: which you know, that seemed like the logical thing to

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Speaker 2: I'm definitely scared of throwing up in general. So this

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Speaker 2: with vomit just everywhere. Go home next morning, steel, feel crappy.

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Speaker 2: Get to the golf course, hungover, four over through six

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Speaker 2: I tried to punch on. I grounded it like ten feet.

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Speaker 2: to this other punch shot almost the identical thing. Look up,

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Speaker 2: Hit it through there to like forty feet, make the putt,

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Speaker 1: Probably you know, it just got you in the right

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's the key. Sometimes every now and then

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Speaker 2: feeling good the next morning. You're just trying to make

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Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden you're at the golf

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Speaker 2: You're not thinking about what could possibly go wrong in between,

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Speaker 2: So you know, I gotta take everything in strade, I suppose.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it makes you not try too.

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Speaker 2: Hard, which is yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 2: I try. Yeah, so yeah, I go through take some valleys,

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Speaker 1: You kind of hit on it. Some would call you

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Speaker 1: a late bloomer in golf, where you know, sudden you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that certainly it was a stepping stone. That summer

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Speaker 2: am at a really really nice golf course and beat

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Speaker 2: started me into an awesome fall season at Iowa my

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Speaker 2: getting asked to, you know, play all these clubs for

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Speaker 1: How's that work when you, you know, are a really good

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Speaker 1: Like and when did you know, like, hey, you know,

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Speaker 2: Road living oh man. The turning pro process is not

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Speaker 2: you sign up for your first event and there's two

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Speaker 2: So that's kind of underwhelming. But the process leading up

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Speaker 1: So you're you're a Calvalay guy.

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Speaker 2: Now have you always been a Calaway guy? Yeah? For

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Speaker 2: as long as I remember, high school was a mixed

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Speaker 2: seen how awesome their line has turned out in that time.

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Speaker 1: I have you hit their new driver.

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Speaker 2: It's apparently like what rate of what's it's called, like

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Speaker 2: Yeah, everybody's saying it's just crazy good. I haven't hit it,

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Speaker 2: but I've also heard the exact same things, like a

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Speaker 2: So yeah, hopefully I'll I'll get to go and hit

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Speaker 1: That's uh, yeah, I want to get my hands down one.

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Speaker 2: snag up on my favorite golf blogger. You know, as

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Speaker 2: long as we get a Caloe logo on Friday, how's

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Speaker 2: that's that? I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if that's a good deal for for Friday.

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Speaker 2: That's fine. I guess the logos are expected. Probably looking

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Speaker 2: We have a shortage of there, sorry, maybe a full.

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Speaker 1: So tell us, uh, you know a little bit about

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Speaker 1: Q School. I think it's the most undercovered golf event

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Speaker 1: of the year because it's the only time you really

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Speaker 1: and all these other pros playing for essentially their livelihoods

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Speaker 1: and their jobs. So uh huh can you can you

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Speaker 1: walk us through like what the vibes who are like

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Speaker 2: players will be there. They take the load twenty five

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Speaker 2: much as you probably should have since I've been playing

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so so tell me if the you Monday qualified

435
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,920
Speaker 1: this year for the Belts are so now you've played

436
00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 1: on the PGA Tour, the Web dot Com Tour, and

437
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 1: the Latin American Tour.

438
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 2: What is it?

439
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 1: What's just the difference in experience as a player on

440
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 1: each of those tours. Like from I obviously know that

441
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,919
Speaker 1: it's gotta be a huge difference from America Tour to

442
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:16,119
Speaker 1: the to the PGA Tour. But walk us through what

443
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,119
Speaker 1: it's like to be inside the ropes on each of

444
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,479
Speaker 1: those tours.

445
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 2: Well, let's start at the bottom here. Depending on what

446
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 2: type of event it is. On Latino America, you either

447
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:30,720
Speaker 2: get nobody out here or you'll get a decent crowd.

448
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 2: Like let's just take the Argentine Open last week. That's

449
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:37,880
Speaker 2: that's a staple on the tour by far, the best

450
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 2: run event, biggest crowds. And you know you have Fabian

451
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 2: Gobas playing Emiliano Grillo and on Helberra as well, so

452
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 2: you're gonna get I have to say there was at

453
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:54,400
Speaker 2: least a couple of thousand people out there, and yeah,

454
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:58,639
Speaker 2: it's nice to see people out and it's uh as

455
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 2: my first impression, my first event out here was I

456
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:06,679
Speaker 2: was certainly uncomfortable because it was uh you know, you

457
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 2: saw banners and you saw everything roped off in grandstands,

458
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 2: and in twenty fourteen or thirteen, I was I was

459
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 2: that was that was new to me. This was cool,

460
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:20,399
Speaker 2: like I'm playing on a legitimate tour. And then I

461
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,120
Speaker 2: slowly built up a talents. You know, I felt comfortable

462
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 2: playing with people in front of me, and you know,

463
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 2: then you get to the web dot Com and it's like,

464
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 2: you know, it starts all over again, like there's more people,

465
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,160
Speaker 2: you're playing for more money. You know, the players are better,

466
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:37,439
Speaker 2: the golf courses are better, and you know, I still live,

467
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 2: been getting comfortable out there, and then all of a sudden,

468
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,159
Speaker 2: you know, I qualified for the Valist line, and you know,

469
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 2: it's like a whole new level of uncomfortableness. You know,

470
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,399
Speaker 2: instead of you know a few hundred people, there's tens

471
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,879
Speaker 2: of thousands of people, and there's you know, all the

472
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:55,200
Speaker 2: people that you see you know that you've watched growing up,

473
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 2: or you know, hitting bunker shots. Next year you're putting

474
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 2: right next to like DJ skin Lucdal is just really

475
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 2: bank cool. But you know, it's kind of all about

476
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 2: getting your feet web. That's what I told everybody is that,

477
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 2: you know, the games aren't very different between the top

478
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:16,439
Speaker 2: players on web dot Com and some of those guys

479
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,399
Speaker 2: that keep their PG Tour card every year. It's just

480
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 2: you know, they kind of know what to expect and

481
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 2: they handle themselves pretty dang well in some situations. And

482
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 2: that's really all it is. Yeah, I think every golfer

483
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 2: struggles with when you.

484
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,959
Speaker 1: Move up a level, you get a little uncomfortable, and

485
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:40,920
Speaker 1: when you're uncomfortable, bad things happen in your swing and

486
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:42,640
Speaker 1: exactly tend.

487
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 2: To go out across the rails a little bit quicker.

488
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 1: You know.

489
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 3: It's it's interesting.

490
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 2: It's that. So you know in terms of.

491
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,719
Speaker 1: You know, the web dot com where where you've played

492
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 1: most of your golf, Like you know, who's been the

493
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 1: most impressive guy that you've played with? Where you've really

494
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 1: been like, wow, this guy's really good, and you know

495
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:09,399
Speaker 1: they could either have made it to the PGA toury

496
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 1: or haven't made it yet.

497
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 2: Well, if we really turned back the talk when I

498
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:22,919
Speaker 2: played with Padeki Matsuyama in twenty and eleven when we

499
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 2: were both amateurs, still, that's h that's kind of knew

500
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 2: how good the players were coming up because this guy

501
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:35,160
Speaker 2: was top five in the world amateur rankings. Like, man,

502
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 2: how good can he be? I'm like, I'm like twenty five.

503
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 2: He can't be that much beigher than me, And yeah

504
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 2: he shot sixty two, So give meredemes.

505
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 1: Where did you play with him?

506
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 2: That was at the World of University Games and like

507
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 2: a deef and golf court's not overly easy by any means.

508
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 2: And I think I shot one or two under, And

509
00:28:56,520 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 2: I mean he literally hit like sixty two for pick

510
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 2: golf shot. I thought, and I got, wow, it looks

511
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 2: like I got a long way to go. Yeah, he

512
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 2: was definitely one of them. Played a lot of golf

513
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 2: with Russell Henley before before he got in the PGA Tours,

514
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 2: both in college and then every now and then a

515
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 2: few Hooters Hooters events. I always know he was gonna

516
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 2: he was gonna get out there. The guy's just a

517
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 2: crazy good athlete and then awesome competitor. So he was

518
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 2: another one. And probably John Peterson too wild. John Peterson,

519
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 2: great ball striker, good good guy, hits it on a

520
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 2: frozen rope every time. And I've been playing with him

521
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 2: a few times in college and on many tour stuff.

522
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 2: I staid, yeah, at the time, I'll see you out there. Yeah,

523
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 2: So those are a couple that come to mind.

524
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 1: He's a big hunter, huge, might might be hunting more

525
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 1: than he's golfing.

526
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's you know, he's really gotten into Instagram these days,

527
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 2: especially the far right now opinions. But uh, John's a

528
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 2: good guy. Comes from a great family, and I like

529
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 2: what he's doing. You know, he's reached out and he

530
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 2: found his he found his niche, you know what I mean.

531
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 2: He's found his his group of followers and he appeals

532
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 2: to them and he's honestly quite a funny guy. Did

533
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 2: you see what he did with his Christmas Lives?

534
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 1: No?

535
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:37,479
Speaker 2: No, oh, it's outstanding. It's uh. He put it on

536
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 2: Instagram and he he syncd it up all with some

537
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 2: Christmas song and apparently he took him five days and

538
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 2: it's like something straight out like Chris Wald. It's hysterical.

539
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 2: So I would really recommend looking at that.

540
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 1: That as a PGA to remember, you know, doing very

541
00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 1: well that he.

542
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 3: He did it all himself.

543
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, he did, and he loved that. He's uh, I

544
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 2: think as his second year of doing it, and I

545
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 2: think he knew that people liked when he put up

546
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 2: his Christmas Life last year, and then I think he

547
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 2: outdid himself this year. And yeah, I can't wait to

548
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 2: hear what you think when you watch the Instagram video.

549
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 2: It's just so comical and if you know John at all,

550
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 2: then it makes perfect sense because he's.

551
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 1: So goofy for all the listeners I'll in bed, I'll

552
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 1: find that Instagram post and embedded on the podcast stage

553
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 1: so everybody doesn't.

554
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 2: Have to look for his legendary.

555
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 1: So, you know, tell us, tell us your best story

556
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 1: from from your travel.

557
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 2: You know, are we talking like golf story or you know,

558
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 2: you know, laugh, maybe because there's a ton of them.

559
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 2: Some of them are I don't really remember, but the

560
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 2: one I was just talking about with some friends here.

561
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I would say either or you know, the

562
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 1: best story from either of West dot Com who are at.

563
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 2: This course in Miami and one of the friends that

564
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 2: traveled with me. Either or either or well, uh, we'll

565
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 2: start with my first year out here, and and I'm

566
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 2: I run into my old friend yesterday who's ahead of

567
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 2: the golf course, and we were telling each other stories

568
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 2: of the one that we kind of went back to

569
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 2: frequently was turnap KNDA and the Dominican and the tour

570
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 2: put us up at the Rock Hotel Casino. I who

571
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 2: who's out of you? You're gonna one hundred and fifty

572
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty, you know, twenty early twenty males

573
00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 2: to a resort destination, all inclusive, nonetheless, and expect them

574
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 2: to have like a tournament. Well, I ended up walking

575
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 2: golf course after twenty seven holes go over far and

576
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 2: all I wanted to do, So I went to the

577
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 2: b and later that night went out to the clubs.

578
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 2: A couple of guys that weren't kind of snuffed through

579
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 2: through the back entrance, which is pretty fun, Like you

580
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 2: need you need a break at the kind of resort. Uh,

581
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 2: I think you get us courted by police if be caught.

582
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 2: But two of our friends were stuck in somehow ship

583
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 2: and everything's funky. Dorry, we go to you know, hit

584
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 2: the roulette tables, you know, say one o'clock. Then our friend, uh,

585
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 2: we'll call We'll call him Paul. Our call. This team

586
00:33:56,640 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 2: running up being chased by three or four big bousers

587
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 2: and uh he kind of looked you feel like a

588
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 2: person and do some some very very limited, uh limited practice.

589
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 2: And I get to the range and I see Paul

590
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 2: emerged from the brush behind the range, and he's walking

591
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 2: along the cart path toward the top house, and I

592
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 2: can kind of just see him, and I'm trying to

593
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 2: think to myself, what in God's name is he getting

594
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 2: out here? Makes his way to the front of the range.

595
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 2: I have a conversation. I go, Paul, what what the

596
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 2: hell happened? Where have you been? He goes, Vince, I

597
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:42,399
Speaker 2: just slept in a bunker on the sixteenth fairway. He

598
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 2: outran the security guards in the pitch black of night,

599
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 2: somehow found his way to the golf course and the

600
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 2: sixteenth that's kind of close the hotel. He ran back first

601
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 2: down the sixteenth and hid in a pot bunker and

602
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 2: slept in it overnight, and then walk down the driving

603
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 2: range backwards pretty much had a reverse walker shame and

604
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 2: the fire, you know, tournament staff and officials.

605
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 1: Was Was Paul a player in the field?

606
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, Paul is a player in the field, not just

607
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:17,839
Speaker 2: like myself. But uh, that's just that's just the type

608
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:21,280
Speaker 2: of things I going on here. That's good fun, that's great.

609
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I wonder what it what it was like

610
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 1: sleeping in a pot hunker could.

611
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 2: Be it had to be questionable. This golf course was

612
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 2: cut out of the jungle, so I only knows whether

613
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 2: what other stuff was like walking around to you at

614
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 2: that point of night. There had to be panthers, yeah,

615
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:48,319
Speaker 2: possibly monkeys, definitely snakes and giant lizards. So yeah, hats

616
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 2: off to Paul for sleeping in a bunker. That's just

617
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 2: legendary right there. Absolutely love it. He's a legend.

618
00:35:55,800 --> 00:36:02,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's terrific. H So well, uh, let's get into

619
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 1: some reader questions here, mm hmmm. So we've got one

620
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:16,800
Speaker 1: from We've got a couple here from Rabbi Jeevich. He uh,

621
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,959
Speaker 1: he wants to know what is your pre round meal

622
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 1: and does it change throughout the week.

623
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 2: That's a great question. Breakfast is always the same, I

624
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 2: will say before I go to bed, I will have

625
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 2: three three whiskeys. That's always a consistent and sometimes it's

626
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 2: three and a half, but it's never more than four.

627
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:51,879
Speaker 2: So that's uh, that's usually what I what I call

628
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 2: my three round meal, is my three scotches or three whiskeys.

629
00:36:55,960 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 1: Does it just it helps you sleep? I imagine, oh yeah,

630
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:01,399
Speaker 1: amongst other things.

631
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,479
Speaker 2: You know, it helps you sleep, It takes yet job

632
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 2: and thanks your mind off off a little bit. So

633
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 2: you know, I think that's my it's my pre and

634
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 2: my post round.

635
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:18,240
Speaker 1: You know, I suppose what's what's your whiskey of choice

636
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,800
Speaker 1: or scotch of choice? Are you more of a whiskey

637
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 1: fan than a scotch fan?

638
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 2: It really depends on how I play because one is

639
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 2: so much more expensive than the other. So if I'm

640
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 2: playing good, and let's say I made a decent check

641
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 2: in a Latino event and I happen to go by

642
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,360
Speaker 2: duty free, I'll reward myself with a decent bottle of Scotch.

643
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 2: But if I'm traveling's black, Q School is a good

644
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 2: a good, a good example that, like first stage, there

645
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 2: is no first same thing with second stage. So you

646
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 2: know you don't want to spend a whole lot of money,

647
00:37:56,719 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 2: So let's go buy a twenty five dollar bottle up

648
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 2: Buffalo Trace and put on the rocks every night, you know.

649
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 1: M That's so if you if you went on like

650
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Speaker 1: a ten straight Misscutt event, we might see you drinking

651
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Speaker 1: like Evan Williams.

652
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, the class Evan Williams, the well like count

653
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,359
Speaker 2: Oh gross, Yeah, I'd be drinking like a Canadian club

654
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 2: or something like that. Gross.

655
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Speaker 1: All right, Robbie also wants to know what's the best

656
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:32,439
Speaker 1: shot you've ever hit?

657
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Speaker 2: Geez, Robbie, So I think okay, probably for the magnitude

658
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 2: of this situation was my first school final round, the

659
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 2: sixth and final round of twenty fourteen Q School, where

660
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,319
Speaker 2: I'm two back of the cut number with two to play,

661
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 2: and I'm playing PJA West that stadium course. Are you

662
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:57,399
Speaker 2: familiar with it at all?

663
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 1: Uh? Yeah, yeah, the one that sends every year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So for anyone that can't picture that seventeenth hole,

665
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 2: it's that island green that looks like algat Dress all

666
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,360
Speaker 2: the rocks around it. It's similar to the seventeenth at StarCraft,

667
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 2: except it's thirty yards longer and you're elevated ten yards

668
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:18,359
Speaker 2: above the green.

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Speaker 1: I think the greens them all are two, right.

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00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, it certainly looks smaller from up there as well.

671
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 2: And I think that day was I don't even know

672
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,760
Speaker 2: it's in between like one hundred and sixty five hundred

673
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 2: and seventy yards. Pin is back right like it's almost

674
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Speaker 2: in that stupid walkway, Like it doesn't even look like

675
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 2: it's on the green. And I need to make two

676
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 2: birdies coming in. Sorry, one birdie. I just birdied the

677
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:48,840
Speaker 2: sixteenth hole. I needed to play my last three and

678
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 2: two under, and I'm looking at this pin and I

679
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 2: just kind of manned up and I hit an eight

680
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,919
Speaker 2: iron right at it, and it landed six inches shore

681
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 2: of the hole and nestled up to within my finger length.

682
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 2: You know, I couldn't miss it if I tried, so, uh,

683
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 2: if that had to be for the situation. You know

684
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Speaker 2: that that was my first year on web dot com

685
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 2: and that probably went a pretty far away into helping

686
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 2: my experience and my uh my confidence in my game

687
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 2: of golf just you know, playing that whole year on

688
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Speaker 2: web dot com as well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I say.

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Speaker 2: So.

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Speaker 1: Tommy Kays wants to know if there are any special

692
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 1: ladies in your life? Very personal question.

693
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:42,840
Speaker 2: Oh, super personal. Well, yeah, to be fair, my putter

694
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 2: and I have been on pretty good term plately. I

695
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 2: got starur there for a little bit. I thought about, uh,

696
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 2: I thought about steparating the beads and maybe go sleeping

697
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:52,800
Speaker 2: in the uh sleeping in the living room for a

698
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 2: little bit. But she's come around, and uh, she's starting

699
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 2: to she's starting to pull her weight around here. But

700
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 2: so far, she's my She's my one and only lady.

701
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 3: Does she have a name?

702
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 2: Oh? Does she have a name. Oh, well, she does

703
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 2: have a name, but we shall call her Valerie. How's that?

704
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 1: Valerie?

705
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 2: All right?

706
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can go with that.

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Speaker 2: I don't think number seven.

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Speaker 1: I don't think you'll meet any ladies in our respective

709
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 1: age group or many named.

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00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 2: Valerie, so exactly only only down here in Columbia.

711
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, that isn't I guess that that isn't that uncommon.

712
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:41,280
Speaker 1: But see, you know, you could go Babs, you know Barbara.

713
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 2: I could go bad. Well, we'll figure it out. I

714
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 2: guess I can't put a name on her yet. Well, brainstorm,

715
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 2: we'll see how she's down here the next couple of weeks.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the next two weeks are big, two weeks for

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00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:55,839
Speaker 1: for for val Yeah, you.

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00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 2: Might as well just ask me then, and you know,

719
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Speaker 2: I'll give you an answer in two weeks time. So Scott,

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Speaker 2: Scott g had.

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Speaker 1: A couple of architecture questions, and I know you're you're

722
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 1: an architecture fan.

723
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Speaker 2: So uh huh, what's your favorite type of course to play?

724
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 1: Like where you you like to play the most? Is

725
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 1: it like you know, a bomber shop maker course like

726
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 1: small greens type fairways or wide?

727
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 2: Uh?

728
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Speaker 1: Yeah? Where where do you feel like you have the

729
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 1: best advantage?

730
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Speaker 2: Where I play well is long golf courses where you

731
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 2: have to hit a lot of drivers but not overly tied.

732
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:39,800
Speaker 2: You know, there's there's a space to hit it, obviously,

733
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Speaker 2: and then when you are coming into the greens, you

734
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:48,919
Speaker 2: have a lot of seven irons through nine irons. That's

735
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Speaker 2: my favorite type of golf course and that's probably why

736
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 2: I keep going back to Southern Hills so often, because

737
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 2: you have like three wadges and the rest are nine

738
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 2: irons through six irons, And uh, that's kind of where

739
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 2: I feel. I feel like that's my niche, that's what

740
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,720
Speaker 2: I what's what I do best is mid iron play.

741
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 2: So I probably should go work on my wedges since

742
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 2: the web dot Com Tours all drivers and flip wedges.

743
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 1: So but that's what I was just gonna say, is

744
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:18,839
Speaker 1: that it doesn't seem like that's what the web dot Com

745
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 1: Tour is about.

746
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 2: Do you know that?

747
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 3: You know, like with the web dot Com like is

748
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,760
Speaker 3: it I you know, you look at where you played

749
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 3: well last year and for the most part there they

750
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 3: were at courses that were deemed like.

751
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:39,240
Speaker 2: More or less PGA Tour style setups. Do you feel

752
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:42,360
Speaker 2: like that the.

753
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 1: You know, the general courses you know, don't really aren't

754
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 1: really a good predictor of futures success on the PGA

755
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 1: Tour because they're, you know, really the courses are just

756
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:57,319
Speaker 1: basically bomb and gouge Central all over.

757
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:01,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, yeah, you pretty much nailed it there.

758
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 2: You can get away with a lot of stuff, a

759
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 2: lot of Aaron shots, Aaron decision making. There's not a

760
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 2: whole lot of places where you need to where you

761
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 2: need to do a lot of planning on the web

762
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 2: dot com in reference to your in reference to where

763
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 2: you want to put the ball in the spare way,

764
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 2: where you want to leave it on the green, and

765
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 2: things like that. There's only a maybe a handful, maybe

766
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 2: a half a dozen that that really will spark your

767
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 2: spark your attention. So it's I think it's getting better.

768
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:39,879
Speaker 2: They've hated some good golf courses the last couple of years,

769
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 2: and I know there are more on the table for

770
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 2: next year, but yeah, it's it's it's like we'll see

771
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 2: next week or at Orange County National for Q School Finals.

772
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 2: Both of those golf courses are near seventy four hundred

773
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:59,439
Speaker 2: yards long. And a friend I just talked to who

774
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 2: play who played it yesterday. So the fairways aren't rolling,

775
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 2: and the majority of the clubs are gonna you know,

776
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 2: they're gonna be like five four, maybe even a couple

777
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 2: six and seven irons in the end of the par

778
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 2: four US, So you know, then an accurate qualifying school

779
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 2: for the web dot com? Probably not, But I think

780
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:25,800
Speaker 2: what it comes down to is that the best players

781
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 2: get out every year. You know, the top twenty, the

782
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 2: top twenty five. All those guys are gonna have to

783
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:32,919
Speaker 2: play in the PGA too. Are sure? There's a couple

784
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 2: of guys that kind of snuck their way in there,

785
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 2: you know, maybe maybe fiddling it around with good watch

786
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 2: play and shoddy driving, But you know, the cream of

787
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 2: the crop always rise at the top, and you know,

788
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 2: I guess I guess that's really all that matters. You know, that's.

789
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 1: So with uh, you know, Where's what's your favorite stop

790
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 1: on the web dot com too? Are?

791
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 2: Oh, that's a good question. In Greenville, South Carolina was

792
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 2: very fun. That's probably one of the best run tournaments

793
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 2: sponsored by BMW and and sin next. I believe they

794
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:13,840
Speaker 2: treat the players very well. There's a bunch of restaurants

795
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 2: in downtown Greenville that will will give us meals. I

796
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 2: remember Trey Millnex took a bunch of guys out right

797
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 2: after his win in Raleigh the week before, and if

798
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:26,399
Speaker 2: they racked up like a two thousand dollars bar tap

799
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 2: and it was all waved. All they had to do,

800
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 2: you know, tip the waiters and waitresses handle it. They

801
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 2: treat us nicely there, and we get to go. We

802
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 2: get to go to the BMW test facility and just

803
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 2: affuse their cars for as long as we want to.

804
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 2: So that's always good fun. Okay, that is sweet. Yeah,

805
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 2: that's a nast part.

806
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 1: I missed this question from Scott Gee, who's your favorite architect?

807
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 2: Oh, that's a nice one. Well, ever since I've played

808
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 2: Short Acres about a month or two ago, Seth Rainer's

809
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 2: got to be up there. He's Uh, I've played a

810
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 2: handful of his golf courses, and the way he he

811
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 2: uses terrain and landscape and how he appeals that good

812
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 2: golfers and bad golfers alike is just outstanding.

813
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 3: So that.

814
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:27,479
Speaker 2: I really think golf architecture is kind of coming into

815
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:30,320
Speaker 2: a rebirth or like a revival stage where people are

816
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:34,320
Speaker 2: understanding that, you know, golf courses don't need to be

817
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 2: these you know, big bunker, massive green complex like you

818
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 2: see it like Reece Jones or Robert Trent Jones golf courses.

819
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 2: You know, you know, there should be more runoffs and

820
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:49,840
Speaker 2: opportunities to use the putter because you know, the the

821
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 2: high handicapper, they should use the putter more often. It's easier,

822
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:56,799
Speaker 2: but the low handicapper is going to want to chip

823
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 2: it just because of out of pure ego. And you know,

824
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 2: you might see the high end of camper getting up

825
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:04,359
Speaker 2: and down more often than the low handa camper does

826
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 2: with all these you know, collection areas and in the

827
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 2: fairway cut around those areas. So I think I think

828
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 2: it's coming around. I know Jack Nicholas is, we'redoing a

829
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:17,800
Speaker 2: lot of his golf courses that way. Gil Hants is

830
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 2: a fantastic designer. And then I can't say enough good

831
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 2: things about Tom Doe and God, who's the other guy,

832
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 2: Bill Krohr and Sun Crunch, how those those duo. They're

833
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:33,280
Speaker 2: doing some really wondrous things around the golf golf landscape

834
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 2: as well.

835
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 1: What's the what's your favorite course that you've gotten the

836
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 1: player or maybe not favorite?

837
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 2: Top three?

838
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 1: I know number one always and it's impossible to rank

839
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:44,800
Speaker 1: golf courses.

840
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, for me right now after playing short Acres the

841
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:53,799
Speaker 2: first time, awesome, that's that's number one right now. Just

842
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,880
Speaker 2: the amount of good holes out there that were either

843
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:00,280
Speaker 2: you know, even the short holes in the part threes

844
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 2: out there are fantastic. You know, nothing to push over.

845
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 2: You know, you can't you can't slip up on that

846
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 2: golf course. Can't let your can't let your mind go

847
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 2: Otherwise you know you're going to find yourself on the

848
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 2: wrong side of a whole location. God, you can't even

849
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 2: get the pot within ten feet sometimes. So I like

850
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 2: to play that seth design that place, and it's that

851
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:24,880
Speaker 2: that was like a that was like a out of

852
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 2: body experience. Going to short Acres the.

853
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 1: First time that I've played there so many times and

854
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 1: you know, luckily and I haven't found, of course better.

855
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:42,239
Speaker 2: It's awesome. It's just the best. Yeah, the ravines and

856
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:43,399
Speaker 2: it's outstanding.

857
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 1: The thing I find hilarious is that somehow golf DIY

858
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 1: just says there's ninety eight better courses in the world

859
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 1: in that or in the US than that, which.

860
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 2: That just that doesn't make sense to me.

861
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 1: I've played a lot of them ahead of it, and

862
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 1: it's it's just criminal. It probably speaks more to their

863
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:06,280
Speaker 1: the quality of raiders that they have than anything.

864
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:10,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, they have one of the hardest part fours I've

865
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 2: ever played, one of the best short part threes and

866
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Speaker 2: also one of the best short part fours I've ever

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Speaker 2: I played as well. So, yeah, I played a lot

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Speaker 2: of golf, I'd like to say, And yeah, that does

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Speaker 2: a lot.

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Speaker 1: Are you talking about ten is the hardest part? Four?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Hold them well obviously, And then what's the what's.

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Speaker 1: The short part for? Is it thirteen or eleven?

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Speaker 2: Thirteen's pretty good. I like thirteen a lot. And then

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Speaker 2: also number two I thought was really clever. Oh, too's awesome,

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Speaker 2: too fantastic.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like that's the I For those of you

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Speaker 1: that aren't familiar with shortreakers, I'm gonna post a review

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Speaker 1: of it this week. Been Yeah, it's it's just spectacular

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Speaker 1: steps Rainer course that I think the poles ten through

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Speaker 1: seventeen is probably one of the best stretches of golf

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Speaker 1: and have like ever created.

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Speaker 2: And it really is.

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Speaker 1: Outside of you know, you look at like seaside courses,

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Speaker 1: there aren't many courses that are you know, more kind

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Speaker 1: of like jaw dropping beautiful than short acres is, so

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Speaker 1: I agree, yeah, And then so it's it's it's been

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Speaker 1: good having you on.

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Speaker 2: Man, Thanks thanks for having me. And that was good fun. Well,

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Speaker 2: then I hope you had a good time. I hope

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Speaker 2: everyone's going to enjoy this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, anything, Uh, you know, we hopefully, if anything,

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Speaker 1: we've given more people one more name to watch. Next

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Speaker 1: week and then this week also at the at the

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Speaker 1: finals for Latin America Tour.

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Speaker 2: So good luck and uh, we'll be uh, we'll.

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Speaker 1: Be tracking, you know, we'll be sending out a lot

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Speaker 1: of tweets about the into India's status.

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Speaker 2: Awesome, thanks guys. Yeah, so we'll talk to you doing

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Speaker 2: in good luck. Thanks, Andy, he speaks to you. And

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Speaker 2: I'll see when I'm back in Chicago, all right later

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Speaker 2: ye