1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants Huttle on giants 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: dot com, the Giant part of the Giants podcast Network. 3 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of the Giant Subtle Podcast, brought 4 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: to you by p s C and G Energy Efficiency 5 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 1: For game time and anytime, visit p SEG dot com 6 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 1: slash Giants for discounts, rebates and home energy assessments. Big 7 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:24,240 Speaker 1: pod come in your way today. I will talk to 8 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 1: Giants cornerback darn A Holmes, Bob Papa with the head 9 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: coach of the Giants, Brian Dable, and Paul Latino on 10 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:34,840 Speaker 1: Lance Meadow, Dr John com who covers the Washington Commanders 11 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 1: for ESPN. First to reminder, go back to the previous 12 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 1: episode right here on the John Subtle Podcast and go 13 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 1: listen to my one on one interview with Jonathan Vilma 14 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 1: from Fox Sports. He's calling the game on Fox at 15 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:48,560 Speaker 1: one o'clock on Sunday Giants and Commanders. And we also 16 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 1: have a Draft season podcast up from earlier in the week. 17 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: Go search for the Draft Season podcast feed on your 18 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: favorite podcast platforms and go check that episode out. And 19 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: of course you can find Old Giants podcast at giants 20 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 1: dot com slash pod cast the Giants Black, or just 21 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:05,320 Speaker 1: search for this specific podcast on your favorite podcast platform. 22 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 1: All right, let's get started with our interviews today. It 23 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: leads off with my chat with Giants quarterback Darny Holmes. Darny, Man, 24 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 1: how are you? I can't complain? Uh in a in 25 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 1: a blissful state, excited for the future and just ready 26 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 1: to get gone. How you spend your weekend after the 27 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving game? Really just self evaluation? Uh was woken with 28 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 1: my baby ground to the world, so I sided at 29 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:32,040 Speaker 1: just just laying low. Congratulations, man? How is how? How's 30 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: fatherhood right now? Just a different different passion I have inside? 31 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: Was a passionate guy was Now it's a different drive 32 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: and a different uh field to the fire in my opinion. Yeah, 33 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: I have a six month old at home, so it 34 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: gets better. It gets more fun of a five year 35 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: old too, It's a lot of fun. Man. Just get 36 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: ready for not a whole lot of sleep. Oh yeah, 37 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 1: he's seven to two hours and he got four. I 38 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: was to sleep last night, but and then the day 39 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: I knew what I signed up for. No, and it's 40 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: the best thing in the world. Man. Congratulations, that's awesome. 41 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: All right, And you didn't get any credit on the 42 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 1: statute for the interception, but Julian gets that. But with 43 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: your play on the ball that knocked it up, that 44 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:11,079 Speaker 1: got the interception for him against Dallas and thanksgiving. Take 45 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: us through the play, the technique you're playing and how 46 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:16,639 Speaker 1: you helped cause that takeaway. Yeah, that was just a 47 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:20,799 Speaker 1: cover what we call it cover too man trail man 48 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: type of technique and pretty much, Uh, that's just the 49 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 1: type of game plan we have for their marquee player, 50 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: ceedee Lamb and to play to play happen how is 51 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: supposed to happen. And when you have good fund amentals 52 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: and good techniques, big plays coming away. That's something that 53 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:36,239 Speaker 1: we holled on in our defensive room and that's something 54 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: that we lean upon. Now you mentioned that's two man, 55 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: so you got two safeties deep, you're playing trail and 56 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: you're back to the quarterback right and a lot of 57 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: time in those situations, he almost threw it like it 58 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 1: was a back shoulder right and a lot of times 59 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: the corner will run into the wide receiver because they 60 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:53,399 Speaker 1: don't slow down right. So how did you play that correctly? 61 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 1: Not commit the defensive penalty, get your hand on the 62 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: football with your back to the quarterback. Yeah so, uh, 63 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 1: and reporter or any guy who comes to practice early 64 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: see me out there early. And those are different things 65 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 1: that I work on each and every day. Uh, coming 66 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: from a position of being at the low hipp and 67 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 1: playing through his hands. If the ball is thrown above me, 68 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: are playing through him if the ball is coming below me, 69 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: so be able to just to judge it and having 70 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:21,919 Speaker 1: that repetition in my mind. And it was just pretty 71 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: much like a drill play, you know, seeing it filling 72 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 1: in and just uh playing and how I was supposed 73 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: to be played. What's your key? Are you looking at? 74 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: His eyes? Is that? Does that tell you the balls 75 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: in the airs? His hands? That tell you the balls 76 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: in the air? What do you look at? So when 77 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: you're back to the quarterback, you know the balls coming 78 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: your way. It's more off his demeanor, his his his 79 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: low shoulder. You know. Once hiss a low shoulder turn, 80 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: I knew that the ball was coming, you know. And uh, 81 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: once I understood that, and I knew once I got 82 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: to him that the ball wasn't there. The best thing 83 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 1: you could do his turn turn around and play the ball. 84 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: Because nowadays, if you don't turn around and play the ball. 85 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: You know what happens fla flags coming man, you know it? Yeah, 86 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: I mean your cornerbacks don't get it out there. It's 87 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 1: it's very difficult what that has you to do. And 88 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: then last week I had a feel, man, you were 89 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: like mr veteran out there at cornerback with all the injuries. 90 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 1: You were kind of the guy that's been here the 91 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: longest and kind of the veteran the group. What was 92 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: that like for you getting ready for that game? It 93 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 1: was just another week for me, I would say, just 94 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: being vocal as always, a lot of film study, a 95 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: lot of tips and clips, as we're saying, a dB room, 96 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 1: and really just taking on the opportunity, you know, taking 97 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 1: on the matchup, taking on the lifestyle of a dB uh. 98 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 1: Being in my position since day one, I always believe 99 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 1: that I'm a top corner no matter where I was drafted, 100 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: that no matter what the stats say, no matter what 101 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 1: p f E says where, no matter what the outside 102 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: world states, within I know I'm a top corner. So 103 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: when I have an opportunity player, it's a tie receiver. 104 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: I take that, take that very not lightly, I should say, 105 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: you know, because at the end of the day. That's 106 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: that's how you show where you stand, you know, staying 107 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 1: with the best sou Outside of that, I'm excited for 108 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: wherever matchup comes my way. I like going gets guys 109 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: because just shows where I'm at. You know, at the 110 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 1: end of the day, UH crafts, I craft so much. 111 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 1: It's just a blessing to go gets different guys who 112 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: crafts a lot as well. So to see where you're 113 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 1: lying up with different people is just a blissful moment. 114 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 1: And I'm going to talk to you about the matchup 115 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:15,679 Speaker 1: this week at the end, But you just talked about 116 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: the dB lifestyle. What is the dB lifestyle to you? 117 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: dB lifestyle is being obsessed with improvement, Uh, being a 118 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:27,599 Speaker 1: person who's not intimidated by no matchup, being a person 119 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 1: who's constantly crafting even when things are going your way, 120 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 1: and being somebody who's loving the game. Because at the 121 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:41,479 Speaker 1: end of the day, you got minimum faifthy snaps, lose 122 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: a couple, win a couple, and you've got to be 123 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 1: a person who who confidence and faith and every faith, 124 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 1: confidence and faith and every waivers no matter what the 125 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: result is. You know, not something that I stayed each 126 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:53,720 Speaker 1: and every play, no matter what happens, my faith and 127 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: confidence won't waiver. End the day, the guys on the 128 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: other side of the ball get paid too. Do you 129 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: feel like you found your home in the slot? You've 130 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 1: kind of been in that role this year in wings defense. 131 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 1: You know, injuries are kind of knocked you don't off 132 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 1: the field a little bit earlier in your career. But 133 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: do you feel like now in this system, in this position, 134 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:11,840 Speaker 1: that you've really found your home in the NFL? I 135 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: would definitely say I found my comfort. Uh. My plan 136 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 1: is to be able to be a corner who's able 137 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 1: to be outside and base and when it's nickel move inside. Uh. 138 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: And that's going back to my mentality of being a DV. 139 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 1: You know. Uh, I've never been a guy who laid 140 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 1: on myself as a nickel back. But the end of 141 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: the day, I have the traits of a nickel back 142 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 1: and a lot of people don't have those traits. So 143 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: the day I'm just running with the guy, giving talents 144 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: I have and just constantly crafting upon them. What are 145 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:38,919 Speaker 1: the things that you're trying to improve on and do 146 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: better that in this system? You can't play outside if 147 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 1: they need you out there, I say things I'm proving 148 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 1: on just the execution of the techniques in every game, 149 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 1: being more vocal with different things when in the red zone, 150 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:55,720 Speaker 1: being more vocal to the play caller. You know, it's 151 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 1: a lot on the play caller out there, whoever the 152 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 1: safety is, so hoping the safety out when he do 153 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: to play, remind him of his keys, you know, And 154 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 1: just making sure that we compliment each other, you know, 155 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 1: because all the great defenses they have somebody are different 156 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: individual who has set assignments, you feel me. So once 157 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: you understand that, and you study that, and you have 158 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: people who are willing to do that, you can take 159 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: it as far as you want to take it. I 160 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 1: mentioned this before. With all the movement you've had in 161 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: that dB room, Xavier Hurt, you know, Fabian at last 162 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: week you lost Aaron Robinson earlier in the year, You've 163 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: got guys in and out of the line up a lot, 164 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: and now Julian's calling the plays. You mentioned the play 165 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: call you're trying to help him out. What has it 166 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:38,679 Speaker 1: been like just trying to make sure all you guys 167 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: on that back end they're on the same page every 168 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 1: week with so many moving pieces. Because you made this 169 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: point earlier, the communication and knowing that all right, this 170 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: guy has me inside so I can play outside leverage, 171 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: whatever the communication is, to make sure you guys are 172 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 1: on the same page, to prevent you know, miscoverage is 173 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 1: big place. Things like that. Yeah, I'll say a lot 174 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: of early mornings and late nights individually, the early mornings 175 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 1: with us coming in together as a defensive group and 176 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 1: meeting and watching. Uh, salute to our coaches, Salute to 177 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 1: the coach, ron coach Mike uh Wink, the coordinator, and 178 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: just the guys who constantly are and installing weekly. You know, 179 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: each each day, each coach have a different set job 180 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 1: and they're maxing out their job, you know. And by 181 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 1: us understanding what is coming in each situation, we're able 182 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: to play more freely and more fluidly. So just having 183 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: these guys that we have on the coaching staff is 184 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 1: definitely a blessing. Outside of that, just having the crowd, 185 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 1: the commard, the camarader we have as a defensive group, 186 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 1: as a defensive backgroup, and the commitment and discipline we 187 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 1: have as individuals is uh, It's just it's just great. 188 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: I know, the fundamental state the same, but how much 189 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: does the game plan change each week with Wink based 190 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 1: on the opponent you're facing. Uh. I would say the 191 00:08:56,520 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: game plan really don't change much, just that people change, 192 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 1: you know, uh in the manner of who were keen 193 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 1: or who were trying to eliminate, and then based on that, 194 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 1: you'll have different coverages, different assignments to take out whomever 195 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: the number one receivers, whoever is you're gonna kill on 196 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 1: that particular week. Exactly, it's still the same. I still 197 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 1: say say, it's still the same scheme, it's just uh, 198 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: you just eyeing a different, different player this week. What 199 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: do you like about wink scheme? Why does it work 200 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 1: for you? Guys back there? What I like about Wink, 201 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:30,839 Speaker 1: which flows into the scheme, is he's a down to 202 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 1: earth person. He has composure, and his scheme relates to that. 203 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: No matter what, he's gonna be itself, he gonna allow 204 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: us to be ourselves and no matter what happens, we're 205 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 1: gonna stand in our ground. So that's just the way 206 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 1: you should be in life, and that's the way our 207 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 1: defense is. And you're we've talked before, you're a pretty 208 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 1: confident guy. Do you like the fact that Wink is 209 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:53,959 Speaker 1: willing to say Yeah, I'm bringing six or seven guys here. 210 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: You're gonna play cover one. That's your guy, go cover them. 211 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: That seems to be something that you would embrace, right Yeah, 212 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: now for sure, being a guy who grew up in 213 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: an impoverished area, the survival to fittest and having a 214 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 1: coordinator who allow you to buy it at and allow 215 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: you to show your skill set and it's not passive 216 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 1: and it's very optimistic about his game plan. Allows you 217 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 1: to get paid in this lead to be truthful. Yeah, 218 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 1: and it gives you guys an opportunity to make place 219 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: Wink venture today this press conference that you guys I 220 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 1: think are top three or top four in terms of 221 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: opposing quarterback completion percentage. Is that something that you guys 222 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: take pride in that your coverage is so tight it's 223 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 1: just really difficult for the opponent to complete those passes, 224 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 1: especially on third downs where you've really excelled this year. Uh. 225 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 1: I feel like at a defense back group, we really 226 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 1: don't get too caught up in the statistics, but we 227 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 1: get will in tune with the fine tuning of the craft, 228 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 1: as I said earlier in the interview, and uh, each 229 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 1: and every day in individual drills, we were fine tuning 230 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: wherever our technique is, wherever fundamental is. So when we 231 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: do have to display that second nature, you know, and 232 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: when we go on that field, no matter if if 233 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:12,079 Speaker 1: we're rocking in matt Life or no matter if we 234 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: out wherever we out at, we are able to embody 235 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: that that confidence demeaning because we're done it over a 236 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: thousand times, you know, absolutely all Right, final question before 237 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: we get to the opponent. Why is your group for 238 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 1: the most part then so good and key situations this year? 239 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: Your red zone defense is excellent, Your third down defense 240 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 1: has been excellent. It seems like when you need to 241 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 1: make that big play, for the most part this year, 242 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 1: you've been able to make it. What is it about Wink, 243 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 1: you guys on the field together that allow you to 244 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:44,559 Speaker 1: make those plays when it matters most, I would say 245 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: just the way things are set up, practice wise, schedule wise, 246 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: routine wise. Yeah, being a rookie, I didn't understand that 247 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 1: red zone, third down, and two minutes where the games 248 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 1: are either one or lost. And those are things that 249 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 1: we honed upon each and every day, in each and 250 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: every week. And going back to what I stated earlier, 251 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 1: each coach has a set out job to elaborate upon 252 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 1: what each opponent does during those situations. You know, So 253 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 1: when those situations come, you got some type of negget. 254 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 1: You understand something, and everybody got got habits. We're creature habits, 255 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: you know. So by you understanding that, you're more going 256 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: to get to play caller than the people on the field. Yeah, 257 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 1: if you can anticipate what's coming, even if they're really good, 258 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 1: you know, Okay, well he's in this split. Here comes 259 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 1: an income. Right, it allows you to play a lot fast, 260 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: I would imagine, right, most definitely, most definitely. And uh, 261 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:50,559 Speaker 1: even with that, like, there's been times where you want 262 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: to anticipate things for the best thing you can't do 263 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: as a deefen the back and just be present, you know, 264 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 1: because anticipation can lead to guessing, you feel me. So 265 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 1: I've been in those positions before, and I'm just at 266 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 1: a point where I'm just president allowing my talents to flow. 267 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: And that's when you just more more fluid, no question. 268 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 1: All right, you mentioned it before. You're like going against 269 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 1: some of the top receivers in the league. Well, here 270 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 1: comes Terry mclauren. He plays a lot outside, but He's 271 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 1: played more than a hundred snaps also inside in the 272 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 1: slot this week, so I'm sure you're gonna see him 273 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 1: a little bit. What makes him good? What makes him 274 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 1: difficult to cover? And what what? And what makes him 275 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 1: a good receiver? I would say for t Cash, radius 276 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 1: is crazy. He could take the top off of his speed, 277 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: and he's a competitor. No matter who we are going 278 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: in against, he's gonna be wolfing, you know, And that's 279 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 1: what I like about him. Uh. I don't know where 280 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 1: teeth from, but since the House State, I've seen him 281 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 1: do his thing, you feel me? So he just he's 282 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 1: a great guy. He's a competitor, and those the type 283 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: of guys you want to compete against. The end of 284 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:52,719 Speaker 1: the day, it's all love, is all respect, but when 285 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: you're in between those lines, it's me versus you. Yeah, 286 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 1: he was an old special teams guy at Ohiose State 287 00:13:57,760 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: and he kind of brings that specially he's mentality to 288 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: the seever position a little bit, right, Yeah, I was 289 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 1: definitely was definitely got that dogmentality, which as a dB, 290 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 1: that's type of guy you want to go against. All right, 291 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 1: let's talk about the other guy you gonna see Curtis Samuel. 292 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: Now he's a little bit different. He does you know, 293 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 1: he's kind of the gadget guy, getting in space, short passes, 294 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 1: running after the catch. What makes him a little bit 295 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: different and what do you have to do to slow 296 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 1: him down? He's a setting agile guy. Uh, he knows 297 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 1: his stramps and he plays in those tramps. I should say, 298 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: very good. Now you're involved in the running game. Obviously 299 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 1: playing in the slot. It's a big part of what 300 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: you do. They got two backs, Antonio Gibson more of 301 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 1: their outside receiving speed guy. Then you're Brian Robinson news 302 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 1: there kind of sledge hammer that runs inside. What's the 303 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 1: key for you guys to slow down their running game? 304 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 1: To try to get him in those third and longs 305 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: and then winking kind of open up the book, right, 306 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 1: I'll say, O Levin has to the ball. That's just 307 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 1: what it is each and every week, and running out 308 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 1: that stack when twenty four is in there, and just 309 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 1: just closing those gaps when as in there. And at 310 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 1: the end of the day they're gonna pop a few. 311 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 1: But Staniel Grant and know that you're not defeated unless 312 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: you tell yourself you defeat it final question. Talking to 313 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 1: Julian Love yesterday, I was asking about Teller Heneke. You know, 314 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 1: you look at his numbers and you're like whatever, But 315 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: Julian said, look, he's got something about him. There's like 316 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 1: a spark, something he does that kind of gets the 317 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 1: team going. He makes plays when he needs them. What 318 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: is it about a guy like Henneken when you watch 319 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 1: him on tape that kind of just gets Washington's offense rolling. 320 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 1: It makes him difficult to stop end of the day 321 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 1: in this lead is hard to win and he's a 322 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 1: guy who wins, and that's just that's just what it is. 323 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: When he's a winner, he's a competitor and he's that 324 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 1: spark to their offense. So once you understand that, it's like, 325 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 1: how can I damn that light? Hey? Absolutely? Congratulations go 326 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 1: women for the new little One this weekend and best 327 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 1: luck on Sunday. 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Now, let's turn our attention to the game. 334 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: On Sunday, John Kim from ESPN covers the Washington Commanders. 335 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 1: Our very own Lance Meddo and Paula Tino talk to him. 336 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 1: Giants continue their stretch of four straight divisional games and 337 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 1: this week's opponent. They'll be playing twice in the span 338 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 1: of three weeks, first up at MetLife Stadium on Sunday. 339 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: To get more into the Washington Commanders, we are now 340 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 1: joined by ESPN NFL Nation reporter John Kim. Johnny got 341 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 1: Lance Meddow and pulled the Tito here on Giants dot Com. 342 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: Appreciate the time today, hopeful as well. How's everything on 343 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: your end? It's going all right. Kind of an unusual 344 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 1: season because I'm covering the team that's winning a lot 345 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 1: of games or winning more games and they're losing. Oh, 346 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: it's unusual. It is indeed, that is we can certainly 347 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: relate from covering the Giants over the last two years. 348 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 1: I don't think there's any doubt about that, and that's 349 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 1: what makes I guess this matchup a bit intriguing. Let's 350 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 1: start with what you pointed out, because the Commanders have 351 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: won six of seven and this has really run parallel 352 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 1: John to Taylor Heineke taking over as the starting quarterback. 353 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:12,919 Speaker 1: But if you look at Heineke's numbers, no disrespect, seven touchdowns, 354 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 1: five interceptions, he hasn't necessarily taken this offense by storm. However, 355 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: I think there is something that he said John about familiarity. 356 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:23,160 Speaker 1: Last year. People forget it was really his first full 357 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:26,159 Speaker 1: year as the starter. He's now with Scott Turner for 358 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 1: the second straight year. So how much do you think 359 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 1: that's a product of the team running smoothly and then 360 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: all of a sudden going on this winning stream. Well, 361 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 1: I think the biggest tea here is the commitment to 362 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: the run game more than anything. And I think when 363 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:44,640 Speaker 1: they had Carson Wentz earlier in the year, they they 364 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: look out there, say you've got Carson Wentz in this big, 365 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 1: strong arm quarterback, and then you have Johan Dotson and 366 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 1: Terry McCluin and Chritis Samuel throw the ball more and 367 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 1: they're not built to do that on the offensive line, 368 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 1: and it led to issues and also went to lack 369 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 1: of familiarity with this offenses first year in a new 370 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:05,119 Speaker 1: system in his career, it handcuffed what they could do 371 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 1: against teams that were good defensively. So with Heineke, they 372 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: know they can't play that way. They don't view him 373 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 1: the same way as they view went So they had 374 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:20,360 Speaker 1: no choice. Now they I think they're gonna do this anyway, 375 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: but they really had no choice but to then commit 376 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 1: strongly to the run. And coinciding with that has been 377 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 1: the health of Brian Robinson, the rookie running back with 378 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: that shot twice in August. I think an offensive line 379 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 1: that is run blocking better, the health of their tight 380 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 1: ends has improved that all that all makes a difference. 381 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 1: And then you get to heinekee similarity with the offense, 382 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 1: and you see it on multiple plays per game, like 383 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 1: we're gonna You're gonna see times where you you look 384 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 1: at it, you say, how did he complete that throw? 385 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 1: What was he thinking there? And then other times the 386 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 1: ball comes out on time and rhythm and he avoids 387 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 1: not only a negative play but connects on a big 388 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 1: one at the same time because of his simlarity with 389 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 1: the offense. And there's an example a couple of weeks 390 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 1: ago in Houston. He hits a plant, step hits a plant, 391 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:13,159 Speaker 1: step hits ball out to Terry McClaren. If he delays 392 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 1: a half second he's drilled, then maybe it's a sack 393 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:19,400 Speaker 1: fumble instead of was seventeen yards last week the first 394 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 1: touchdown they scored in a swing past, he dumps, he 395 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 1: checks it down to Brian Robinson, but he gets there 396 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 1: because of what he sees right away and knows he's 397 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 1: got to get to the checkdown right away, and he does, 398 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 1: and it gives Robinson more time one on one against 399 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 1: defensive back and it was a mismatch. So those are 400 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 1: the areas where he can where he has benefited them. 401 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:41,400 Speaker 1: See when I look at Heinechy, I see a guy 402 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 1: who wants to buy himself sometime, and he holds the 403 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 1: ball too long very often because he's got that gun 404 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 1: slinger's mentality that if I hold the ball long enough 405 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 1: and I do a scramble drill, Terry McLaurin is gonna 406 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:57,400 Speaker 1: find a way to what a good route and I'll 407 00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 1: be able to force that ball in there and make 408 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 1: a big That's what I see when I look at Heineke. 409 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 1: You can tell me if and you could, and you 410 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: can tell me if Ron Rivera enjoys him play in 411 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 1: that way. Well, I think lately he's been getting the 412 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 1: ball more on time. I think sometimes it depends in 413 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 1: two whether I think any quarterback who has any level 414 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: of mobility tends to hold the ball along because they 415 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 1: always think they can buy time to make a big play. 416 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:27,160 Speaker 1: I think when he first came in he did make 417 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 1: some of those plays this year, and then he hit 418 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 1: a stretch where if you're continuing in the pocket, he 419 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 1: can't get out, and so he's got to get rid 420 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:38,119 Speaker 1: of the ball quicker. So there is a Tennessee at 421 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 1: times with that. But I will say there are definitely 422 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 1: times where it's kind of a yang and a yang 423 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:47,120 Speaker 1: with him, because like sometimes you say that and then 424 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:49,959 Speaker 1: other times say, well that's a good result of again 425 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:53,439 Speaker 1: plant step or hit that plant step balls out, So 426 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 1: it's kind of it's kind of both. And you know, 427 00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 1: I think one thing with him is he has really 428 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 1: been making as many plays outside the pocket the last 429 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 1: few games, again because I think teams are keeping him 430 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 1: in there they should want to keep them in there. Um. 431 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:11,160 Speaker 1: And then I also think there have been times where 432 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 1: he doesn't look to get out of the pocket when 433 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 1: he probably could. So there are times where you think 434 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 1: maybe he should use his legs a little bit more. 435 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:22,159 Speaker 1: I mean, it's really you know, as far as what 436 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 1: the coaches think, I mean, I think they, you know 437 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 1: they Ron River is the defensive minded coach and one 438 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 1: of the things I remember talking to him last year 439 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:35,919 Speaker 1: in the summer about this um and defending quarterbacks like 440 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:39,640 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones or guys like Badroom Mobile and how hard 441 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,159 Speaker 1: is on defenses. So I think they kind of like 442 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 1: when he does that. But it's kind of one of 443 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 1: those almost like a case by case, like it was 444 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:50,159 Speaker 1: a good here, but not here, and how do you 445 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:53,439 Speaker 1: discern which time is right to do it? So I 446 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 1: think he's gotten better with that, but it's always gonna 447 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 1: be a part of his game because it's how he 448 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:02,359 Speaker 1: grew up. Yeah. I you reference their shift back towards 449 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,120 Speaker 1: the run game over the last few weeks and how 450 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 1: much that is coincided with the wind streak. The number 451 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 1: that jumps out to me is their number one in 452 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 1: the NFL and time of possession. They've one time of 453 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 1: possession in ten of their twelve games, including their last six, 454 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: And I'm a big believer, Listen, time of possession is great. John. 455 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: At the end of the day, if it doesn't lead 456 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: to anything, meaning, if you're not scoring touchdowns, it doesn't 457 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 1: necessarily hold as much weight. So what is the value 458 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:31,880 Speaker 1: with respect the time of possession? For Washington? Even though 459 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,160 Speaker 1: you look at their scores, it's not as if they're 460 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 1: lighting up the scoreboard here every single week. And that's 461 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 1: the great questions. I'm a believe, just like you know, 462 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: a big believer in time of possession, like you always 463 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:43,880 Speaker 1: here in the games where you play this explosive team, 464 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 1: it's like, well, if they're not finishing with points and 465 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 1: the other team can score in five plays, what did 466 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 1: you accomplish? So with that you have to finish with points. 467 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 1: When they beat the Egos, they finished more with points, 468 00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 1: and that's because you can't win otherwise. So where the 469 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 1: benefit for them has been it first of all, it 470 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 1: shrinks the game, and you know, you you're you're you're 471 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 1: keeping you are keeping your defense fresh, and their defense 472 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 1: has been very good. So I think it's like that's 473 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 1: the biggest If you talk to those coaches, that's the 474 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 1: biggest thing they'll talk about, and the players will talk 475 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,160 Speaker 1: about how they you know, the defensive guys will say, well, 476 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 1: they keep us fresh and that's that's the number one 477 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 1: thing for them. I also think that they haven't played 478 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 1: again Minnesota. They played Minnesota good offense and that you know, 479 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:35,120 Speaker 1: they did a pretty good job holding them and we'll 480 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 1: score twenty points. And so it's really if you play 481 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 1: I will say this too, like if you play good 482 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 1: red zone defense with that strategy, then it can work. 483 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 1: I think if you're getting a shootout, well clearly you're 484 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: gonna be in trouble because they don't have that ability 485 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 1: with with Heineker quarterback to really play that way. So 486 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,360 Speaker 1: you it's it's shortening the game. And the other thing 487 00:23:55,440 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 1: combined with that is, um, you know, field position, and 488 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,439 Speaker 1: I think with their punter truss Way, who's having a 489 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,679 Speaker 1: really good year, I think that makes a big difference. 490 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 1: So if that's where they can help him help them. Um. 491 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,479 Speaker 1: But yeah, I ordinarily I agree with you, like you 492 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:15,160 Speaker 1: have to finish with points, but because they really always haven't, 493 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 1: then it's kind of working. Um But I do you 494 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 1: know if you're playing you're gonna play silly multiple times 495 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 1: with that strategy, You're going gonna work a few times 496 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 1: because they they've so men ability to have the quick strike, 497 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 1: you know, Dallas as well, so you know it's limited, 498 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,199 Speaker 1: but it's working right now. Well. It's interesting to me 499 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,880 Speaker 1: about it, John, is that even though the running game 500 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 1: has been going well and it's obviously helping them win 501 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 1: a lot of games lately, still for the season, they've 502 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 1: only eat about thirty six on third down conversions, which 503 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 1: is in the rottom quarter of the league. And and 504 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,879 Speaker 1: that's that's usually not something that you can keep living 505 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,639 Speaker 1: by correct and trust me, there are a lot of 506 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:57,119 Speaker 1: times you kind of look and say, how are they 507 00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:00,640 Speaker 1: going to keep doing this? Now? Lately have been better 508 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 1: on third downs a lot of that They had a 509 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 1: stretch early in the year where they were just a physibal. 510 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:09,959 Speaker 1: I'm talking like you know, fifteen for you know, fifty 511 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 1: or whatever. It was like really really bad on third 512 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 1: downs with the run game. And I'd like to go 513 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 1: back and check the numbers over the last six seven 514 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 1: weeks because I think it's better than that, um, because 515 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 1: they're usually in certain and more short and manageable situations, 516 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:29,399 Speaker 1: and early in the year it was a lot of 517 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 1: certain longs and it led to sacks and led to 518 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,119 Speaker 1: other issues, and then it was just a problem with 519 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 1: they because the run game committed. It's short in that 520 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 1: so I think for the season it's not great. I 521 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,119 Speaker 1: would venture to say over the last six seven weeks 522 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 1: it's better than that. I don't think they're gonna be 523 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,639 Speaker 1: top half because it's just I think that's who they are. 524 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 1: But if they can squeak out a few first sounds, 525 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 1: if we drive, um, I think they feel pretty good. 526 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 1: If they can flip field position and play it that 527 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,360 Speaker 1: way as well. But yeah, no, it's that's the hard part. 528 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 1: It is if you aren't better on that down, that 529 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 1: it is hard to sustain unless you're picking him up 530 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 1: on first and second down. Letich they always aren't. But 531 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 1: you know, I think, but yeah, it's you want to 532 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 1: be better in that area. Of course, we're talking with 533 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:15,160 Speaker 1: John com who covers the commanders for ESPN. John, obviously 534 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 1: the offensive line fits into this equation, and you even 535 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,359 Speaker 1: talked about one of the reasons why they wanted to 536 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 1: go back to the rushing attack is to protect this 537 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 1: offensive line versus past protection. It's been a group. They've 538 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,159 Speaker 1: dealt with some injuries, specifically its center. It looks like 539 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: West Schweitzer, who is one of the guys that center, 540 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 1: is due to maybe returning from i R. Trade Turner 541 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 1: has popped up on the injury report, their right guard. 542 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 1: What's the overall status of this unit entering this week 543 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,199 Speaker 1: and what do you attribute to why this group is 544 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 1: held up for the most part during this rise. Yeah, 545 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 1: the good question. And as far as like west Switzer, 546 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 1: Westwhitz is a natural guard. He was playing center because 547 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,640 Speaker 1: they kept getting their centers heard, and he went there 548 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 1: earlier this year because the center they have now, Tyler Larson, 549 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 1: was not available yet he was coming off an achilles injury. 550 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,639 Speaker 1: If Larson had been available earlier this year, Schwitzer never 551 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,160 Speaker 1: would have gone to center. So he's better as a guard. 552 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 1: So they're gonna get death back at guard. As far 553 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 1: as Trade Turner goes, earlier in the year, he was 554 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 1: really bad, And I mean he was just it was bad. 555 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 1: It was there's some mental mistakes but also a lot 556 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 1: of just getting beat. But he also missed all of 557 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 1: camp with the quad injury. When he came back in 558 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,400 Speaker 1: the last several games much better. But I also think 559 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 1: they started using more power runs the last several weeks, 560 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 1: which played to his strength and the strength of the 561 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 1: other guard, Andrew Norwell. They're just they're they're not great 562 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 1: out in space, but you get him moving forward, they're 563 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,719 Speaker 1: gonna be better. And some of those duo run blocks 564 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:44,640 Speaker 1: right and and then that that has helped in pastors. 565 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,440 Speaker 1: If they have to sit back in third and eight, 566 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,719 Speaker 1: you know you're not gonna they're not gonna want that. 567 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:51,920 Speaker 1: This this Steff is not gonna want that at all. 568 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,119 Speaker 1: I still have got there as far as what they 569 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,199 Speaker 1: might do at guard Turner doesn't go, they have the 570 00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 1: second year, I'm saying, Sam cosed me who was starting. 571 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 1: Who is there starting right tackle, but he hurt his 572 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,640 Speaker 1: hand and had surgery on his thumb earlier this year. 573 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 1: He had that. He had his cast out for a while, 574 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,399 Speaker 1: recently came back a few games ago, and his rotating 575 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,920 Speaker 1: at right tack with Cornelis Lucas because he only has 576 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 1: use of three fingers on his left hand, so they 577 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:20,959 Speaker 1: didn't want to put him in there full time because 578 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 1: of that. But he's a really good run blockers. So 579 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 1: if Turner can't go, Cosmi would shift inside to right guard, 580 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:31,360 Speaker 1: where I actually think he's better suited than right tackle, 581 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 1: but it would be his first game there. And you're 582 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:36,920 Speaker 1: talking about the strength of the Giants is that interior right. 583 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 1: I mean, those are two really good um defensive tackles, 584 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 1: So I think you're gonna want someone like him in there, 585 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 1: but it would be if he plays, it will be 586 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 1: his first game there. So it's been a group that's 587 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 1: very much been influx all since training camp opened. They've 588 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 1: always had to deal with something and they kind of 589 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 1: get used to it um. But I think what they've 590 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 1: done better is how they've used them. And I also 591 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,479 Speaker 1: think too with which also improved lately is again the 592 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 1: health of the tight ends, which has led to better 593 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 1: blocking from the tight end. That can't be underscored because 594 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 1: that's a big part of what they've been doing well. 595 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 1: They use a lot of tight end action on they're 596 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 1: like little slice blocks, which they call him, you know, 597 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,479 Speaker 1: coming back across the line, some pulling action from the 598 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 1: tight end. They've been pivotal as well. So that's helped 599 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 1: the offensive line overall as well. You know, John, we've 600 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 1: gone now quite quite far into this pot and haven't 601 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 1: really even mentioned Terry McLaurin, who I quite frankly probably 602 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 1: have more admiration for him, uh that than any other 603 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 1: player because we all know he's getting the ball in 604 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 1: a big spot, and yet he continues to be clutch 605 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 1: and produces in every which way man manageable. Yeah, from 606 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 1: from watching him all the time, Like you do, what 607 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 1: what is it about him that makes him the most 608 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 1: dangerous in the most critical of times? UM? First of all, 609 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 1: he's highly competitive me and he's toss So I think 610 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 1: you take those two factors and that's gonna be making 611 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 1: different right away, right And then I think like in 612 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 1: certain situao for example, the couple plays you're taught, you're 613 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 1: probably referencing to the play against Indianapolis where Heineke basically 614 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 1: throws it down the field. He's opened by five yards 615 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 1: in the end zone, but the ball is on the throne, 616 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 1: SOI McClaren has to work back and just basically out 617 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 1: muscle stuffin Gilmore for the ball. And that's that's you know, 618 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 1: not that Gilmore doesn't want it per se, but you 619 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 1: know with McClaren, how fiercely hungry that guy is to 620 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 1: make plays. And he's also smart. So like you know, 621 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 1: the other thing is in UM the week before against 622 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 1: Green Bay there's a typical third day where Heinek again 623 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 1: he's almost he's and this is where the familiarity comes, 624 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 1: he's gonna be sacked. Mcclornay is not even broken yet, 625 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 1: but but Heinek knows where he's gonna get to, so 626 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 1: he just throws the ball. McClaren works back for the ball. Now. 627 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 1: I say that because he specifically that, because early in 628 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 1: his career he talked about how one of the things 629 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 1: he felt he had to work on was working back 630 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 1: harder for the ball. So he made it a point 631 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 1: of emphasis for himself. So the way he self evaluates 632 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 1: his game to work on things, the contested balls he 633 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 1: wanted to work on. The coming back for the ball 634 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 1: he wanted to work on and get better at. Because 635 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 1: of that, I think it makes him more dangerous in 636 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,720 Speaker 1: those situations. And then I think the other thing too, 637 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 1: Like you watch him in some key spots don't run 638 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 1: a slant. They love running the slant and the digs 639 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 1: to him, but he gets open because he runs routes 640 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,479 Speaker 1: well and he's not pipping things off and the slant 641 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 1: you have to you have. If a guy's playing off him, 642 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 1: he's gonna sell the go ball. And then he's just 643 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 1: gonna cut inside because he's got you. And then his 644 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 1: he's just strong enough and he uses his body well 645 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 1: to make sure that you know you're probably not gonna 646 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 1: get it, so that those are just some of the 647 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 1: things as well. But he is to me, it really 648 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 1: starts with competitiveness. I think he's smart um, and then 649 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 1: he's a good route runner too. So certainly a big 650 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 1: test for the Giant secondary given the fact that they 651 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 1: have several injuries that they're trying to work through. And 652 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 1: speaking of the defense, John that brings me to the 653 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 1: Washington defense because you look at this group statistically, they're 654 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 1: pretty much top ten in just about every important category. 655 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 1: And I know we're gonna get to Chase Young and 656 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 1: all the talk is the front group and what they've 657 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 1: been able to do, specifically the defensive line, But I 658 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 1: actually want to talk about the loss of Cole Holkum, 659 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 1: which I don't think has gotten enough attention. He's their 660 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 1: leading tackler at linebacker. They've been without in the last 661 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 1: five games. Yet you look, once again, their ability to 662 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 1: stop the run has been solid. What has Jack del 663 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 1: Rio done to help overcome that loss, and why haven't 664 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 1: we seen a significant drop off? It's really are asking 665 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 1: good questions here. I'm very perfect once to what this 666 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 1: team is. So I'm I'm very happy that you're just 667 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 1: to talk about this because I just I think it's 668 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 1: all directly important to what this team is doing with 669 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 1: the RIO. Part of the way they've adjusted. Um. First 670 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 1: of all, they use a lot of five defensive line 671 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 1: and looks, so you can go five D line one linebacker, 672 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 1: and that's Jamie Davis, the second year linebacker out of Kentucky, 673 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 1: who was a first round pick last year, who has 674 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 1: slowly developed last year, has really taken a big step 675 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 1: this year. So that's one reason why they've offset is 676 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 1: because you can play him in that role. A year ago, 677 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 1: they could not have played him in that role, and 678 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 1: now they can because he's just he's better. Um. So 679 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,960 Speaker 1: that's one way they've adjusted. The other way is they 680 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 1: use three safety sets a lot much more than they 681 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 1: use like three corners much more, and that's because those 682 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 1: are their best defensive backs and like so they have 683 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 1: Cam Curl, very good, very good, strong safety who can 684 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 1: also play in a in a deep deep you know, 685 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 1: cover two look. Right. Then you have Derek Force, the 686 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 1: second year guy who has done really well in the backfield. 687 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 1: He could go single high, he could play two half 688 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 1: but then you also have Bobby McCain who is a 689 00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 1: converted corner but he's a his mall but he's physical, 690 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 1: but they'll play him in the slot. So the way 691 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 1: and I'm getting to all that because I think that's 692 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 1: the other way you offset some of that loss by 693 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 1: using the free safety set. You can put Cam Curl 694 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,840 Speaker 1: in the box as a lot de facto linebacker slash 695 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:19,240 Speaker 1: safety and UM and help that way. Right now, John 696 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 1: Boston has been playing for Holkem not as good as coverage, 697 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,879 Speaker 1: He's not as athletic as as Holkem. Good against the run, 698 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,840 Speaker 1: but that's about it. He can be exploited against the 699 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:34,160 Speaker 1: past UM. So that's where use like, it's really hard 700 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 1: to offset Holcomb's lost when you're going to a just 701 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 1: a basic set. But there are other ways that they've 702 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:42,200 Speaker 1: done it, and it's really by using use of personnel 703 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,239 Speaker 1: UM and using what they have UM that is a 704 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,879 Speaker 1: strength and again five D line three safeties, we might 705 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:50,839 Speaker 1: as well go right to that D line. Then now 706 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:54,399 Speaker 1: John Immy Chase Young at the moment as we're shaping this, 707 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:59,880 Speaker 1: uh seems like he's iffy. Excuse me? If if the 708 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 1: he comes back, what do you expect from him in 709 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 1: this game, figuring that he's missed twenty games because of 710 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,279 Speaker 1: the a c L. He's probably gonna be on a 711 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:13,760 Speaker 1: pitch count anyway. Are they better off maybe just not 712 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:17,280 Speaker 1: having him back in and playing a healthy Smith Williams, 713 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 1: who quite frankly to me, is obviously the weak link 714 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,319 Speaker 1: on that line if he's in the line up. Yeah, well, 715 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 1: here's if Chase Young returns, and you're right, it's very questionable. 716 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,440 Speaker 1: Last week, at this time they felt optimistic about where 717 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,280 Speaker 1: he was headed, and it's not like there's been any setback. 718 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 1: I think what they haven't seen is him showing the 719 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,560 Speaker 1: confidence in his knee that they want to see. It's 720 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 1: not a medical thing right now, it's more it's more mental. 721 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:45,839 Speaker 1: Can you get back? Do you trust yourself with that need? 722 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 1: Do you trust engaging it with three pound lineman and 723 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 1: and and going as hard as you had So that 724 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 1: starts there. If he returns, he'll he'll be limited to 725 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,839 Speaker 1: about twelve to six team snaps, and so it's only 726 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,480 Speaker 1: gonna be situational. I think where it helps you this 727 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,320 Speaker 1: week is when you have a quarterback like Daniel Jones, 728 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:07,799 Speaker 1: you want those athletic ends because like, you know, I'm 729 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 1: watching um the Lions game and watching him routinely run 730 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 1: the zone, read around ends who cannot react to him, 731 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 1: and like you need them, So Chase Young can do that. 732 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,319 Speaker 1: He can, you know, if you want to play, just say, hey, 733 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 1: go attack the mess point and then make the play 734 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 1: on the you know whatever, you know, make the play 735 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 1: the quarterback and route to the mess. He can do that. 736 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,279 Speaker 1: So like that. But I but I also don't think 737 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 1: he'd I think if they use him this week, I 738 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 1: think could be more of a situational pass rusher and 739 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,840 Speaker 1: he's still obviously very dangerous. But the question then is 740 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 1: like to your point, I don't know, We don't know 741 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,040 Speaker 1: what he's gonna look like. I know what you looked 742 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,400 Speaker 1: like last year. He was not rushing the way they wanted. 743 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,279 Speaker 1: He was doing kind of doing it differently, and it 744 00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 1: wasn't effective at all. He also was nobody on that 745 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,880 Speaker 1: group for a long time was really playing as a group. 746 00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:02,040 Speaker 1: There were more individuals playing, and sometimes those individuals do well, 747 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,480 Speaker 1: but as a group they would not where they're playing 748 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,920 Speaker 1: much better as a group right now, How is he 749 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,000 Speaker 1: going to fit into that? You know that they've really 750 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,759 Speaker 1: established a good rhythm with the upfront, with the with 751 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:15,839 Speaker 1: the stunts, and whether it's coordinated stunts or improvised stunts, 752 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:19,120 Speaker 1: they're working well together. Does Young fit into that or 753 00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,359 Speaker 1: is he gonna be so amped up to get some 754 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,479 Speaker 1: sacks and make up for lost time that he's gonna 755 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,719 Speaker 1: be playing, you know, a little bit more selfish. I 756 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,480 Speaker 1: don't know, And I think that's one thing that they 757 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,080 Speaker 1: don't know either. I think they're listening to him and 758 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:35,120 Speaker 1: hoping what he's saying is gonna math fest stuff on 759 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,959 Speaker 1: the field, But we really don't know. But if he's right, 760 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,160 Speaker 1: he does give them an athletic end against a quarterback 761 00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,920 Speaker 1: who can't move, and that's always a good thing. And 762 00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,440 Speaker 1: you're right, like Smith Williams, I think he's done a 763 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:49,399 Speaker 1: fine job. But he's not Chase Young. You know, he's 764 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,759 Speaker 1: not Montest sweat. He's a He's a good backup for them, 765 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,359 Speaker 1: And now it improves your depth when when Young isn't 766 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,680 Speaker 1: there more full time. That won't happen for a little 767 00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:02,080 Speaker 1: while though, John Mix of the Washington defense and trying 768 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:05,759 Speaker 1: to slow down a mobile running quarterback Mike Kfka, the 769 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:09,080 Speaker 1: Giants offensive coordinator, He was asked the other day about 770 00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:13,480 Speaker 1: the fact, well, Washington just played Atlanta and Marcus Mariota, 771 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,240 Speaker 1: and do you feel is that a good litmus test 772 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:18,799 Speaker 1: for what they're gonna then have to deal with you 773 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,680 Speaker 1: and Daniel Jones and company this week? And he felt 774 00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,400 Speaker 1: that they defended Atlanta pretty well. I think Mariotti had 775 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,040 Speaker 1: six runs for forty nine yards. I'm curious, Hey, how 776 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:30,279 Speaker 1: do you think they handled Mariota and b how much 777 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:33,040 Speaker 1: do you think timing may actually work out as an 778 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:38,879 Speaker 1: advantage for Washington here? Well, it took a while them 779 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,799 Speaker 1: to adjust the last couple of times. The last time 780 00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:43,839 Speaker 1: he ran it, they defended it very well, and that 781 00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:47,160 Speaker 1: was inside the red zone. So um, but it was 782 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:51,160 Speaker 1: because James S Williams attacked the mesh point earlier. They 783 00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:55,840 Speaker 1: played it terribly against his own read so now you know, 784 00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,600 Speaker 1: And it's funny because Washington fans are kind of freaking out, like, 785 00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:02,120 Speaker 1: oh yeah, Marry on his legs. They scored thirteen points, 786 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,040 Speaker 1: So despite all that, they always scored thirteen points. And 787 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:08,760 Speaker 1: I'm watching, like, you know, Daniel Jones again again against Detroit, 788 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,360 Speaker 1: where he seemed like he rushed pretty well, and I 789 00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:15,080 Speaker 1: scored eighteen points. So I but I having said that, 790 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:17,839 Speaker 1: it is a weapon for them, and it is something 791 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,680 Speaker 1: that they have not always defended him well in the past. 792 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:25,320 Speaker 1: So my thing, my thing is too it's almost a 793 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,839 Speaker 1: benefit to Washington, like last week to me, kind of 794 00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,520 Speaker 1: warmed them up for Daniel Jones. Daniel Jones is better 795 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:36,000 Speaker 1: than Marriota, and um, you know, but as far as like, okay, 796 00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,440 Speaker 1: remember this is what happened last week. You've got to 797 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,000 Speaker 1: play it this way because this guy does the same thing. 798 00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:43,160 Speaker 1: So it felt like it was like it may have 799 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,560 Speaker 1: been like a good scout team look for what they'll 800 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,399 Speaker 1: say Sunday. But you know, if you run it right, 801 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:51,239 Speaker 1: you you still can fool them. And they do a 802 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:54,160 Speaker 1: nice job with bringing the tight ends around to lead 803 00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,920 Speaker 1: them around. And you know, um so even if you 804 00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:58,719 Speaker 1: played a certain way, that tight end might be there 805 00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:02,480 Speaker 1: the block. But I think it's probably more to Washington's 806 00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,880 Speaker 1: benefit that they just saw Mariota and can be reminded 807 00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,360 Speaker 1: that if you don't defend it right, this is what 808 00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:11,600 Speaker 1: can happen. So I know, like when they played Jalen Hurts, 809 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:15,279 Speaker 1: their goal is make Hurts make a fast decision, get 810 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,400 Speaker 1: the ball of his hands, because he's really dangerous with 811 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,719 Speaker 1: it in his hands. I don't you know, I don't 812 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:21,600 Speaker 1: know that they're gonna do the same thing with Jones, 813 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:23,799 Speaker 1: but I do, like I think if I'm then like 814 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,520 Speaker 1: attack the mess point and and make you have athletic 815 00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:30,120 Speaker 1: ends who can do that attack it and make a 816 00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:34,000 Speaker 1: play on the way to that right. So um, you know, 817 00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:35,640 Speaker 1: but I think it's to their benefit that they just 818 00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:39,200 Speaker 1: saw Marcus Mariota. John Let me give you a kind 819 00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:42,719 Speaker 1: of a generic question. Big picture, we both look at 820 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,719 Speaker 1: these teams as teams that to this point have played 821 00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,920 Speaker 1: it close to the vest, have relied on their running games, 822 00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:54,319 Speaker 1: have basically played you know, ball security football. Even though 823 00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:58,840 Speaker 1: Washington has a more impressive statistically defense than the Giants do. 824 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:01,600 Speaker 1: The Giants defense, for the most part this year has 825 00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:03,759 Speaker 1: been good in the red zone, They've been good on 826 00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,640 Speaker 1: third downs, and they've they've been able to squeak out 827 00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:09,239 Speaker 1: an awful lot of wins. Are there gonna be any 828 00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:13,560 Speaker 1: surprises from either team this week? Is either team going 829 00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,400 Speaker 1: to open it up and fling it? Are we going 830 00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:20,600 Speaker 1: to see something that we don't expect? Or is this 831 00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:24,000 Speaker 1: still cage match gonna come to fruition and we're gonna 832 00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:28,359 Speaker 1: wind up seeing a seventeen finals. I think we're gonna 833 00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,200 Speaker 1: see that. I think we're gonna see a game that 834 00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:34,040 Speaker 1: might take two and a half hours because of that. Um. So, 835 00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,160 Speaker 1: I if this team tries to open it up, they're 836 00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:39,760 Speaker 1: gonna lose because that's not what they're built to do 837 00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:43,319 Speaker 1: with the offensive line. I think now having said that, 838 00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,120 Speaker 1: if they if they throw more than thirty times, they're 839 00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:49,560 Speaker 1: in trouble to me, unless you're just converting kind of 840 00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:51,920 Speaker 1: of you know, a lot of third downs whatever. But 841 00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,080 Speaker 1: if they're trying to play that way, I think they're 842 00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:57,200 Speaker 1: gonna be in trouble because again, I would be concerned 843 00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:01,040 Speaker 1: with that line holding up over time against in that 844 00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:04,319 Speaker 1: kind of situation. But where I think they can hurt 845 00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:07,960 Speaker 1: them is most play action. Listen, if I'm an opposing 846 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,440 Speaker 1: offensive team, I'm taking advantage of like a guy like 847 00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:13,200 Speaker 1: Jared Smith who's gonna bite and take fall steps. Right, 848 00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:15,600 Speaker 1: That's what we saw in Dallas, and you know, can 849 00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:19,279 Speaker 1: you get him on some thank you? Ken? So, I 850 00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:23,120 Speaker 1: think they're gonna try some of that from the first 851 00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:27,520 Speaker 1: down play action throws. Um if you hold off that 852 00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:29,680 Speaker 1: that pass r us that you know, as we know 853 00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:32,839 Speaker 1: when Martin Dale is very aggressive. If you hold that off, 854 00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,600 Speaker 1: then you have a chance for some chunk plays against 855 00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,239 Speaker 1: that secondary. But you gotta hold it off, and if 856 00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,840 Speaker 1: you don't, you're putting yourself in a really bad spot. 857 00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,480 Speaker 1: So I think they're going to try and limit the 858 00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:46,400 Speaker 1: bad spots and win the way they've been winning. It 859 00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:48,839 Speaker 1: may just be that they throw the ball more effectively 860 00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:53,759 Speaker 1: versus more often. He is John Kime, who covers the 861 00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:58,719 Speaker 1: Washington Commanders for ESPN. It is the first matchup of 862 00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:02,040 Speaker 1: two in the span three weeks, as the Commanders are 863 00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,600 Speaker 1: gonna have a buy in between both of their meetings 864 00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:07,440 Speaker 1: with the New York Giants, with both teams battling for 865 00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:10,720 Speaker 1: one of the final playoff spots in the NFC. John 866 00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,680 Speaker 1: can't take you off. Greatly appreciate the time in the inside. 867 00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,400 Speaker 1: We look forward to the Steel Cage match this Sunday 868 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:18,520 Speaker 1: and look forward to talking down the road. Thanks for 869 00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:21,440 Speaker 1: hopping on, Thanks John, thanks for having me on it. 870 00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,960 Speaker 1: It's gonna be fun because when the NFC is like this, 871 00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:26,520 Speaker 1: it's so much better for the NFL. But thanks to me, 872 00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,120 Speaker 1: you got it. Our pleasure and if you want to 873 00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:32,759 Speaker 1: attend that game, Giants, and Commanders on Sunday. Go to 874 00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:36,600 Speaker 1: Giants dot com slash tickets to reserve your seat. Today. 875 00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:39,480 Speaker 1: It's the giants second legacy game. The team will be 876 00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:42,319 Speaker 1: in their throwback uniforms from the eighties and nineties, and 877 00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,759 Speaker 1: the stading will be branded and throwback designs, including an 878 00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:48,080 Speaker 1: exclusive collectible pennant for the first thirty thousand fans. Limited 879 00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:51,279 Speaker 1: tickets are still available. Go check it out Giants dot 880 00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:53,920 Speaker 1: com slash tickets to check out the Giants and the 881 00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:58,279 Speaker 1: Commanders on Sunday at one o'clock at MetLife Stadium. We 882 00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,080 Speaker 1: thank John Come. We gave us a great preview you 883 00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,120 Speaker 1: of that game. If you listen to that, you know 884 00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,879 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a tight, close game with two very 885 00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:08,480 Speaker 1: impressive teams taking on one another at MetLife Stadium with 886 00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:12,200 Speaker 1: a potential playoff spot on the line with three NFC teams, 887 00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:15,439 Speaker 1: the Commanders, Giants, and Seahawks battling for the final two 888 00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:19,080 Speaker 1: wild card spots. All right, we thank John, Come, We 889 00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:22,239 Speaker 1: thank Lands and Paul. Let's head to our final part 890 00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:24,839 Speaker 1: of our podcast. On our final interview are very own 891 00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:26,720 Speaker 1: b Popa, the Voice of the Giant, spoke the Giants 892 00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:30,200 Speaker 1: head coach Brian Table Giants take on the Washington Commanders 893 00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:33,160 Speaker 1: MetLife Stadium a good old fashioned NFC East showdown, and 894 00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:34,840 Speaker 1: as always, we're joined by the head coach of the 895 00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:38,759 Speaker 1: New York Football Giants, Brian Table coach, and take a 896 00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,880 Speaker 1: look at this Washington team. You know, over the last 897 00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:45,799 Speaker 1: eight games, they've been so stingy defensively. This front that 898 00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:50,279 Speaker 1: they have is pretty awesome. What makes them so effective 899 00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:53,480 Speaker 1: working as a group. Well, I'd say number one is 900 00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:57,640 Speaker 1: their talent um. We're all high draft picks. And I'd 901 00:44:57,640 --> 00:44:59,920 Speaker 1: say number two is their their technique in their ton 902 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,040 Speaker 1: ascety in which they play. They really set the tempo 903 00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,759 Speaker 1: for their entire team and they cause issues both in 904 00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:08,960 Speaker 1: the run game and the past game. Yeah, I mean, 905 00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:12,719 Speaker 1: over this stretch since week number six, they're only giving 906 00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,319 Speaker 1: up fifteen points per game and they're they're taking the 907 00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:18,879 Speaker 1: ball away a lot of talented players there. But let's 908 00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:22,040 Speaker 1: focus on your team a little bit, and you know 909 00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:25,239 Speaker 1: some of the positives, because there's always things you can 910 00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:28,200 Speaker 1: take out of a out of a performance and and 911 00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,960 Speaker 1: build off of. And even though you came up short 912 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:34,800 Speaker 1: against Dallas, the positives that you saw in that game 913 00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,319 Speaker 1: that you bring into this game that you've reinforced with 914 00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:39,960 Speaker 1: your team. Yeah, I've liked the way our guys competed 915 00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:43,799 Speaker 1: since day one, h since we've gotten here, and you know, 916 00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:46,560 Speaker 1: they're a gritty group. Um. You know, it didn't turn 917 00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:48,880 Speaker 1: out the way we wanted to turn out, but you know, 918 00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:52,600 Speaker 1: each week they prepare, they practice, and then ultimately we 919 00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:55,120 Speaker 1: got to go out there on Sunday and execute. Um, 920 00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:57,160 Speaker 1: you know the things we need to execute, both as 921 00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:00,160 Speaker 1: coaches and players to put ourselves in a chance to win. 922 00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,239 Speaker 1: And you know, we've had a few of these where 923 00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:04,759 Speaker 1: we haven't who we've had, you know something that we 924 00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:08,440 Speaker 1: have and I think the mindset of each player and 925 00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:10,799 Speaker 1: each coach in this in this room is just to 926 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,480 Speaker 1: improve and um, you know, focus on the things we 927 00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:16,719 Speaker 1: can control, which is you know, our preparation, and then 928 00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:18,960 Speaker 1: really study our opponent and the things that they do well. 929 00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,360 Speaker 1: And you know, ultimately it comes down to execute. And 930 00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:25,280 Speaker 1: for sixty minutes, coach, Um, over the last couple of games, 931 00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:27,200 Speaker 1: you haven't been able to get the run game going, 932 00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:30,000 Speaker 1: most notably with say Kwan Barkley, to the level that 933 00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:33,480 Speaker 1: you had. What are some of the things that you 934 00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:36,360 Speaker 1: contribute that to a lot of moving parts, the injuries 935 00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:38,880 Speaker 1: that you've dealt with, UM, because I know that's a 936 00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:41,839 Speaker 1: staple for this football team. As far as being successful 937 00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:44,799 Speaker 1: and staying on schedule offensively, yeah, I mean there's been 938 00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:46,640 Speaker 1: some good things that we've done and some things that 939 00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:49,719 Speaker 1: we can certainly improve on. Um. You know, the things 940 00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:52,719 Speaker 1: we haven't been getting. We haven't been getting those big ones, UM, 941 00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:54,920 Speaker 1: which always contributes. And that's really the running game in 942 00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,799 Speaker 1: the NFL. There's it's gonna be ones and twos or 943 00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:01,040 Speaker 1: zeros and usually early on in game, and you know, 944 00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,080 Speaker 1: you got to continue to grind it out and you know, 945 00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:05,440 Speaker 1: hopefully one of those are gonna pop for a thirty 946 00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:08,239 Speaker 1: forty yard or with with a guy like se Quan Um. 947 00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:10,400 Speaker 1: But you know, it takes all eleven guys to execute 948 00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,120 Speaker 1: to play properly, and UM, that's certainly something we've been 949 00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:17,960 Speaker 1: working on. Daniel Jones, UM, he's had success against Washington 950 00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:20,319 Speaker 1: over the years, but each year brings a different set 951 00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:23,600 Speaker 1: of circumstances and a different set of stories. Just talk 952 00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:27,480 Speaker 1: about his leadership and you know some of the things 953 00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:30,040 Speaker 1: that he has to do to help lead this team 954 00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:34,520 Speaker 1: to victory. Yeah, Well, it first starts with good decision making. UM, 955 00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:36,440 Speaker 1: whether that's in the in the run game with the 956 00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:38,560 Speaker 1: check with me's or the past game throwing it to 957 00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:42,040 Speaker 1: the proper person. UM, taking care of the football and 958 00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:44,959 Speaker 1: then executing and critical situations, whether that be third down 959 00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:47,040 Speaker 1: or red zone. UM. You know, he's been a very 960 00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:49,759 Speaker 1: consistent guy for us. UM, he's been a good leader 961 00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:52,040 Speaker 1: for us, and we're gonna need that. UM. You know 962 00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:54,400 Speaker 1: for this game. Coach, when you take a look at 963 00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:57,440 Speaker 1: these one score games, UM, your team has been involved 964 00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:01,400 Speaker 1: in nine of them, you have seven wins, UM, Washington. 965 00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:02,960 Speaker 1: When you take a look at the way their games 966 00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:05,920 Speaker 1: have unfolded, same kind of thing. You both your teams 967 00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:08,640 Speaker 1: played a profile. Is this sort of a game that 968 00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:11,120 Speaker 1: is just a battle of wills of who can stick 969 00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:14,440 Speaker 1: with it the longest and and stay the most consistent 970 00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:17,920 Speaker 1: over the course of the game. Yeah, consistency and execution. UM. 971 00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:20,560 Speaker 1: You know they're a good football team. They're they've been 972 00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:22,719 Speaker 1: on a good streak here and you know, I think 973 00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:25,000 Speaker 1: we're a good football team to Um. You know it's 974 00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:29,200 Speaker 1: gonna come down to again, execution for for sixty minutes, 975 00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:32,880 Speaker 1: making the right plays when they come to you, and UM, 976 00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:35,480 Speaker 1: you know, staying as consistent as we can, and you know, 977 00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:38,360 Speaker 1: making plays in critical situations, whether that's the end of 978 00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:41,560 Speaker 1: the game, a third down, red zone, and then as 979 00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:43,640 Speaker 1: always taking care of the football and trying to get 980 00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:46,760 Speaker 1: the football and the other thing to coaches, you're getting 981 00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:50,160 Speaker 1: some reinforcements back at least um, you know as of 982 00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:54,160 Speaker 1: this recording, UM, and that's got a bo bolster the 983 00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:56,479 Speaker 1: lineup as well, to have people back that are coming 984 00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:59,080 Speaker 1: back fresh, and it just helps on the depth all 985 00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:01,520 Speaker 1: across the board, isn't it. Yeah. I think you know, 986 00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:03,560 Speaker 1: if you can have as many good players out there 987 00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:06,239 Speaker 1: as you can, that that always helps. Um. You know, 988 00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:08,040 Speaker 1: and our guys have been working hard to to get 989 00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:10,040 Speaker 1: back to this point and you know, hopefully it'll be 990 00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:12,239 Speaker 1: ready to go. Coach, best of luck, Thanks, but I 991 00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:14,759 Speaker 1: appreciate you. That's Gihants, said coach Brian Table. We thank 992 00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,800 Speaker 1: him for joining us right here on the Giant Subtle Podcast. 993 00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:20,320 Speaker 1: Thank you again to John Come. Thank you also to 994 00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:24,600 Speaker 1: Darnay Holmes for uh three excellent conversations today to talk 995 00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:26,839 Speaker 1: some Giants football and to get you ready for the game. 996 00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:29,600 Speaker 1: Come in your way on Sunday for everyone. I am 997 00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:31,840 Speaker 1: John Schmilk again. Go check out previous episodes of the 998 00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:36,000 Speaker 1: John Subtle Podcast, my interview with Jonathan Vilma the previous episode, 999 00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,279 Speaker 1: and of course you have Bob poppas Popper's perspective with 1000 00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:41,520 Speaker 1: Chown Lindetta talking about a couple of games in six 1001 00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:46,760 Speaker 1: against the Washington Commanders. For the guys, I am John Schmilk. 1002 00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:48,560 Speaker 1: We'll see you next time on the Giants Huddle.