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Speaker 1: Smell us now, lady, Welcome to Meet Eater Trivia Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Meet Eater Radio Live. It's eleven am Mountain

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Speaker 2: time here in Bozeman, Montana, and that's eleven am for

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Speaker 2: our friends in Great Falls, Montana. I'm your host, Randa Williams,

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Speaker 2: joined today by my good friends Corey Calkins Brody Henderson.

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Speaker 2: As always, Phil Taylor, Master of Ceremonies, is behind the

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Speaker 2: board here. We've got a great show for you today.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna talk to two fellas who just started a

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Speaker 2: brand new advocacy group for hunters and anglers in Wyoming.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna play a little game called fake news. We're

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Speaker 2: gonna chat with Meat Eater's brand spanking new director of Conservation,

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Speaker 2: Mark Kenyon. We've got another edition of the Meat Poll.

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Speaker 2: Glad to have you with us. Thanks for joining, Brody, Corey.

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Speaker 2: We were just chatting before the show that we don't

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Speaker 2: have a lot to talk about. I suggested Corey talked

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Speaker 2: about his son's broken arm, and he seemed reluctant to

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Speaker 2: do so, So I'm just gonna put it out there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Brody, been doing anything fun out there.

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Speaker 4: We're not worried about social services checking in.

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Speaker 1: Are you?

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Speaker 2: Oh? No, I guess who hasn't jumped off of a

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Speaker 2: swing too far? Yeah, Marshall fell off a swing. That's

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Speaker 2: like a classic childhood milestone, no doubt swings or monkey

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Speaker 2: bars or you know, rope swings with another kid. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: pretty Yeah.

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Speaker 3: The Caulkins family is on a roll getting injured this.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say, the Caulkins men go hard.

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Speaker 5: We do.

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Speaker 3: We'd go hard in the paint, whether we're trying to

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Speaker 3: trees or jumping on a swing.

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Speaker 6: Was it like a very showy breaking of the arm,

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Speaker 6: Like did he launch himself off the swing?

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Speaker 7: No?

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Speaker 2: I guess he was having a like long distance jumping contests. Sure,

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Speaker 2: and then nothing happened there. I don't know who won,

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Speaker 2: Probably not him, he's got he's pretty short. And then

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Speaker 2: he just jumped back on and then I think he

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Speaker 2: fell on his face and his wrist broke his fall,

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Speaker 2: so minor fracture. He'll be fine. Oh yeah, he'll be

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Speaker 2: all right. Now.

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Speaker 6: I got nothing, Randal. I'm just looking at Wyoming drods

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Speaker 6: for mule deer.

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Speaker 2: Not getting out on the ice.

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Speaker 4: What ice?

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Speaker 6: Yeh, yeah, I got I got a pile of points,

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Speaker 6: but my pile isn't quite big enough. Like, I'm a

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Speaker 6: couple behind max points, which is a bad place to

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Speaker 6: be in Wyoming.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm in the same position with elk and antelope

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Speaker 2: in Wyoming. So just need to light those things on

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Speaker 2: fire at some point.

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Speaker 4: Yep.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm in the debacle at least here in Montana,

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Speaker 2: with plenty of points to draw some pretty awesome tags.

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Speaker 2: But I kind of want to just keep accumulating too.

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Speaker 2: You know, the odds are only going to get worse.

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Speaker 2: Try I continue to try for some of the hard tags. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm like, man, at some point, do I just burn it?

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Speaker 2: I mean, we a couple of months from now, we

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Speaker 2: could be sitting in this very room. We could be like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: talking about how sweet our tags are.

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Speaker 8: Ye.

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Speaker 2: I did get out, I guess two weeks ago with

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Speaker 2: Cal for a very last minute uh waterfowl excursions. So

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Speaker 2: I've just been eating ducks, a lot of ducks, and

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Speaker 2: I just there's a recipe in the Wild Whole Cookbook

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Speaker 2: where you just see them real quick and there's like

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Speaker 2: an orange squeeze some oranges, throw some bourbon in the

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Speaker 6: And you weren't there for the little uh waterfowl extra

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Speaker 6: extravaganza we did the other day.

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Speaker 2: No, but I got the leftover ducks. Yeah, there are

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Speaker 6: You got the leftover good ducks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I got a couple of pintails. I think there

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Speaker 2: was a baggy full of breasts and thighs in the

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Speaker 2: We those ducks too, So.

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Speaker 4: People should keep an eye out for the next one.

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Speaker 6: Man, it's gonna next little Steve experiment we eat mergansers.

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Speaker 3: Did he break out the lab coat again?

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Speaker 2: No lab coat? His his? Uh, scientific method is better

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Speaker 2: than it was in the Rabbi in the Sky. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: taste testing, because we've received a lot of feedback about

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Speaker 2: the gross failures of our There wasn't.

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Speaker 4: Much science involved in this one. It was just like

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Speaker 4: just seeing what they taste.

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Speaker 2: Like, taste well. With nothing to add to that, Corey

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Speaker 2: other than you're broke. Oh Phil, huh And that's a

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Speaker 2: great idea. Phil. How have you been?

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Speaker 8: Oh fine, I wasn't expecting this, randle on a little

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Speaker 8: cut off guard here, But yeah, I've been doing well.

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Speaker 8: Nothing really new to report. I've got a pre vasectomy

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Speaker 8: appointment today and I was gonna ask Mark about I

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Speaker 8: think Mark's been public.

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Speaker 2: I can see him. I can see him cringing in

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Speaker 2: the little box below main feat.

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Speaker 8: So maybe maybe we can talk about that with our

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Speaker 8: new director of conservation.

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Speaker 2: Let me I you said you didn't have much going on.

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Speaker 2: You got it all going on. It's it's all happening fun.

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Speaker 2: I just made a note here Phil's vasectomy.

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Speaker 6: You know, Phil, I had some buddies that they I

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Speaker 6: think this was a I don't know if it's still

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Speaker 6: a thing, but it was a thing where dudes would

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Speaker 6: like schedule their vasectomies like a circle of friends, like

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Speaker 6: all at the same time, and then they had to

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Speaker 6: have like a little post vasectomy, you know, gathering celebration.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, I'll do it, Randall, Yeah, sure, sweet,

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Speaker 8: let's do it. Yeah, find an excuse to throw a party.

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Speaker 2: We can get some good time in on the switches.

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Speaker 8: That's gonna happen regardless.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Well on that note. Joining us first today

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Speaker 2: our Zach Lynch and Chris Allen, the founders of a

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Speaker 2: new advocacy group, Protect Wyoming Pack. Zach, Chris, Welcome to

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Speaker 2: the show.

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Speaker 9: Thanks guys, thanks for proving us.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you. Now, before we get into the details

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Speaker 2: of your new group, can you just introduce ourselves, introduce

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Speaker 2: yourselves to the audience, and just tell us where you're

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Speaker 2: coming from and what you guys do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, my name is Zach Lanch. I live in Cody.

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Speaker 1: I work as a mountain guide. I own a guiding business,

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Speaker 1: and I grew up in Wyoming. I did it fish

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Speaker 1: for as long as I could remember. And just at

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Speaker 1: a point of a clarification, we're not an advocacy group.

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Speaker 1: We are a political action committee. We're doing very different things.

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Speaker 1: We're getting involved in elections and educating voters. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I got really inspired to get involved in Wyoming state

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Speaker 1: politics last year when we had a lot of anti

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Speaker 1: And Protect Wyoming is the result of that and that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And how did you you connect with Chris here?

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Speaker 1: So we I think we're both coming from a place

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Speaker 1: of you know, not being involved in politics ever before

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Speaker 1: in our in our lives and talking to other hunters

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Speaker 1: to connect through mutual.

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Speaker 2: Friends, gotcha and Chris, you're coming to us from further

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm on the kind of the north central part

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Speaker 9: of the state and Claremont, Wyoming just about an hour

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Speaker 9: different landscape than Zachson. More prairie country, ranch country out here,

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Speaker 9: and Zach and I just hold similar similar values on

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so can you You mentioned, Zach, you mentioned that

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Speaker 2: this is a political action committee Protect Wyoming Pack, and

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Speaker 2: you mentioned sort of that last year's legislative session was

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Speaker 2: influential and you guys getting this thing off the ground.

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Speaker 2: Can you tell us a little bit about how you

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Speaker 2: came to decide on being a pack rather than a

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Speaker 2: you tell us like what are your core issues?

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Great questions. You know, answer your first why a pack

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Speaker 1: as opposed to another advocacy organization? Well, there are a

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Speaker 1: in Wyoming, and I think it was eye opening last

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Speaker 1: with the intent of selling them off. I mean, the

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Speaker 1: I remember clearly in Cody one town hall where one

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Speaker 1: if he had the opportunity, and he didn't care what

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Speaker 1: the constituents thought. And so it was in that moment

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Speaker 1: So it's coming from us Wyoming Knights, no special interests,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because a lot of your traditional you know, five

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Speaker 2: they can't get involved in saying this candidate did this,

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Speaker 2: this candidate is is a better choice if you care

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And we're not, just to clarify, we're not coordinating

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Speaker 1: which is really important for us. You know, we're nonpartisan,

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Speaker 1: no questions about that. To public wildlife. We're really opposed

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Speaker 1: and three scientific management of wildlife. Politicians should not be

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Speaker 1: in charge of wildlife populations. Biologists should be.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Can you talk a little bit about the landowner

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Speaker 2: is a proposal. I haven't really kept up on it,

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Speaker 2: but this is an issue that pops up every now

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Speaker 2: and then in different states, and I wonder if you

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the first attempt was about ten years ago to

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Speaker 1: make landowner tags transferable, so as it is in Wyoming. Now,

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Speaker 1: you know, if you're a landowner, you have more than

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Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty acres and you can, you know,

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Speaker 1: then you can get a few an appropriate amount of

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Speaker 1: landowner tags, but you cannot sell those to anyone. There

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Speaker 1: are a lot of opportunities for landowners to make money

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Speaker 6: Someone could buy them and then go hunt on public

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Speaker 1: It's for the area. Now you know, the State of

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Speaker 1: They've issued special tags for damage mitigation, but generally this

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Speaker 1: It doesn't put money in the state system at all.

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Speaker 1: It just you know, lines the pockets of large landowners

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Speaker 1: You know, we superduce pronghorn numbers, all the type one

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Speaker 1: Correct, gotcha, But I mean there's already you know that

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Speaker 1: And we think it goes across against state law which

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Speaker 9: It is actually a Title twenty three and in law

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Speaker 2: So gotcha. And this is a this is a pack

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Speaker 2: What's your strategy for making an impact with with grassroots

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, we have to be really strategic in

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Speaker 1: So well, at that point, you know, see what kind

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Speaker 2: Gotcha, And I'm gonna detour here from the questions that

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Speaker 2: If there are people listening to this that don't like

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's eye opening to see the disconnect between

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Speaker 2: Public lands, in public wildlife.

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Speaker 1: And to see now you know, paying closer attention to

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Speaker 1: that's been really eye opening to me. You just see

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Speaker 1: in any way, right, whether that's simply showing up to

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Speaker 1: the President of the United States does. So educate yourself

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Speaker 1: And we would argue that you know, supporting you know

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Speaker 9: Warned life, gotcha, Well yeah, Randall, I'd probably piggyback off

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Speaker 9: Zach there just real quick. On the website front, we

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Speaker 2: So yeah, education is huge. You mentioned the website. Is

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Speaker 9: I would say yes, And then we do have a

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Speaker 2: Well, Chris Zach, we really appreciate it you guys joining us,

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Speaker 2: and we appreciate what you're doing for for hunters and

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Speaker 2: Thank you guys. Appreciate it. Yep, we got to get

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Speaker 4: Go out and try and kick some ass.

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Speaker 2: Yeah whatever, you know, whatever your commitments are here there,

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Speaker 2: So that's that's commendable. I hope that they see some

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Speaker 2: News at Tape and rush Shop.

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Speaker 6: He talk tape balloon.

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Speaker 7: Don't get to lay about Steve.

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Speaker 6: It's the best shot than down this. So is that

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Speaker 8: You can do anything you set your minds to. Guys,

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Speaker 6: My two boys would be deeply upset by what you

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Speaker 8: That is that one of the favorites in the house

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Speaker 2: It is It is amazing, what a what a cultural

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Speaker 8: Yeah. Yeah, my oldest went through a went through a

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Speaker 2: To Clay Nucombe was reciting the words to that on

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Speaker 2: the live tour before his al hooting contest. Yeah, I mean, mom,

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Speaker 8: I'd say, I'd say in the grand scheme of the

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Speaker 2: So I can drop my chair a little bit now

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Speaker 2: you're centered, alrighty, Well, you know the rules here, Uh,

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Speaker 4: So this is two lies in one truth, not two

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Speaker 2: This is a multiple choice.

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Speaker 8: Got three lies?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll start. We'll go one at a time, one

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Speaker 2: headline at a time. Here, So Phil, can you bring

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Speaker 2: up the first headline? I'd love to A three legged

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Speaker 2: blank has learned to hunt in a completely unexpected way?

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Speaker 2: so I wasn't gonna impact.

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Speaker 4: That's gonna impact my man.

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Speaker 2: A three legged blank has learned to hunt in a

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Speaker 3: True, I could see it.

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Speaker 2: Multiple three legged folks coming in from Tennessee. I'm gonna Okay, okay,

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Speaker 2: gotta really hammer down here. Let's go what kind of lion?

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Speaker 4: Mufassa?

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Speaker 8: See you deliberately disobeyed me.

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Speaker 2: Well, we've got our answers. Yep, Brody says, see lion,

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Speaker 2: Cory says, be wolf. Let's go. We've got a correct

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Speaker 2: Per New scientist Jacob, an eleven year old lion and

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Speaker 4: Did he lose a back leg or a front leg?

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Speaker 2: Phil pull up that picture?

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Speaker 4: Ye, because that really impacts things back left?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, the black bear I shot had lost his front

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Speaker 3: I'd add that man cat's a wicked smot.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Phil, can we have our second headline? So

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Speaker 2: Brody's up one nothing geez. Generations of bearded vultures stashed

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Speaker 2: humans treasures, including a six hundred and fifty year old

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Speaker 2: blank in these bird nests? Is it a sandal?

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Speaker 7: Are they collecting these things from corpses?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Actually, that's an unanswerable question. Generations of

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Speaker 2: bearded vultures stashed humans treasures, including a six hundred and

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Speaker 2: fifty year old blank in these birds nest? Your choices

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Speaker 2: are Is it a sandal, is.

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Speaker 8: It an urn?

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Speaker 2: Is it a pipe? Or is it a knife? Do

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Speaker 2: you guys ever come across a vulture nest? I came

453
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Speaker 2: across one. I think it was an Illinois and it

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Speaker 2: was like on the side of a cliff.

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Speaker 3: I could hear like a light screeching caught my attention.

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Speaker 2: And so I looked in and there was a just

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Speaker 2: bones and hair and poop everywhere, and there was one

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Speaker 2: little small baby vulture in there, like bouncing up and down.

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Speaker 2: It didn't look real. Bones and hair and poop everywhere.

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Speaker 2: Sounds like the mudroom when I leave my dogs there

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Speaker 2: for a long day.

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Speaker 4: Did you put your answer down yet, Corey? No, I

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Speaker 4: know what I want to put down, but I can't.

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Speaker 3: Six and fifty year old sandal.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be an old sandal, but it also

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Speaker 2: be an old urn. It's not really a treasure. No ooh,

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Speaker 2: flip him over, boys, yet, Brody's still thinking. He's still

468
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Speaker 2: thinking based on all of the available information, not trivia, Brody,

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Speaker 2: what's your answer here?

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Speaker 4: My answer is a pipe?

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Speaker 2: A pipe, and Corey says, d a knife, where the

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Speaker 2: correct answer is a sandal.

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Speaker 4: That's treasure.

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Speaker 2: Per Smithsonian Magazine, Archaeologists in Southern Spain recently recovered more

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Speaker 2: than two hundred human artifacts from historical bearded vulture nests

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Speaker 2: in Southern Spain. I rewrote that sentence and didn't delete

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Speaker 2: Southern Spain, so that's where that's there's a redundancy. One

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Speaker 2: of the most remarkable finds is a six hundred and

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Speaker 2: fifty year old sandal made from woven twigs and grasses,

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Speaker 2: according to study published last month in the journal Ecology.

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Speaker 2: This is where it gets interesting. Bearded vultures have been

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Speaker 2: extinct in southern Spain for seventy to one hundred and

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Speaker 2: thirty years, depending on the specific region. But while the

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Speaker 2: birds have disappeared from the area, their well preserved nests

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Speaker 2: can still be found there, often tucked into protected hidden

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Speaker 2: spaces in the mountains.

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Speaker 4: I think it came off of corpse.

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Speaker 2: That would be fun. That would be fun, Phil. Can

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Speaker 2: we get a third headline? Please? Oh?

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Speaker 8: We sure can.

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Speaker 2: Bolivian river dolphins sometimes dangle blank in their mouths and

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Speaker 2: scientists don't know why? Is it their offspring Ana conda's

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Speaker 2: tree branches or discarded rope?

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Speaker 3: This is a global fake news segment.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Bolivian river dolphins sometimes dangle blank in their mouths

496
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Speaker 2: and scientists don't know why? Is it their offspring ana condas,

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Speaker 2: tree branches or discarded rope?

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Speaker 3: I can easily get rid of two of those, So.

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Speaker 2: Pretty fly for a white guy. Yeah. I was gonna

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Speaker 2: say this background tense fill, the most violent, the most

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Speaker 2: violent mosh pit. I ever participated in? Was it an

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Speaker 2: offspring show? We had big pizzas that they're given out

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Speaker 2: for free, and you'd throw them on the ground and

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Speaker 2: it was like a big banana peel. So you just

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Speaker 2: push like five people into it and it all flip.

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Speaker 4: Did you from that whole thing bloodied?

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Speaker 1: Uh?

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Speaker 2: No, I was unscathed, but there were many good men

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Speaker 2: we lost that day. You got an answer, Corey, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know it.

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Speaker 8: Do you know what the lead singer, Dexter Gordon I

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Speaker 8: think is his name Dexter something he's got like a

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Speaker 8: doctritt in chemistry or something like that. Wow, he's an

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Speaker 8: educated man.

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Speaker 2: The name like that. Yeah, you bet that's the best

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Speaker 2: thing we have on this show today. Corey's got an answer.

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00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 2: Cory says, hey, their offspring. Brodie says d discarded rope.

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00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 2: The correct answers an a Conda's Oh come on, this

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Speaker 2: is yeah. I know it's hard to guess these when

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Speaker 2: you don't have any information.

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Speaker 8: It's almost like it's a flawed game.

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Speaker 2: This one comes from a question. Well, I think that's

523
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Speaker 2: what's fun about it.

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Speaker 1: It is fun.

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Speaker 2: We're basically just rolling rolling a die and seeing it

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Speaker 2: comes up with. So this one comes from uh ZME Science,

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Speaker 2: and I'm just going to read a few sentences from

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Speaker 2: their article because it's written in a very funny way.

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Speaker 2: Imagine the excitement of biologists from the nol Kemp Mercado

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Speaker 2: Museum of Natural History during one seemingly uneventful day in

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Speaker 2: August twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 4: Really building it up.

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Speaker 2: That day, they saw not one but two Bolivian river

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Speaker 2: dolphins with their heads above the river. But that was

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Speaker 2: really nothing compared to what they noticed next. Taking out

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Speaker 2: their cameras to snap some quick photos of this extraordinarily

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Speaker 2: rare sighting, the researchers could now see that the two

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Speaker 2: dolphins were holding an anaconda in their beaks, handling it

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Speaker 2: like it was a plush toy. This was absolutely shocking

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Speaker 2: to members of the teams. It's safe to say something

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Speaker 2: like this had never been witnessed, or at least this

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Speaker 2: is the first time it was documented. Bolivian's benny anaconda's

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Speaker 2: are apex predators, meaning no one messes with them. Apart

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Speaker 2: from a single case of cannibalism, no one had ever

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Speaker 2: seen Bolivian anaconda's getting killed or eaten by any other

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Speaker 2: wild animal. Uh happened once.

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Speaker 6: How did they know that they killed it? They could

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Speaker 6: have just flound it floating dead.

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Speaker 2: It was alive when they started. Well, they said they

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Speaker 2: they said they messed with it for like six to

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Speaker 2: eight minutes, picking it up out of the water and

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Speaker 2: then diving down holding it in their beaks, and they

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Speaker 2: just were like their assumption is that they were playing

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Speaker 2: with it, but that it ended up well.

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Speaker 6: Playing with stuff is like well documented behavior from dolphins.

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Speaker 6: Like I've seen dolphins mess with redfish and throw them

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Speaker 6: back and forth. I've seen them kill tarpin just for

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Speaker 6: fun and then leave them.

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Speaker 2: But this behind an apex predator, meaning no one messes

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Speaker 2: with them in their ecosystem.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, Brody squeezed the fun out of that question by

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Speaker 2: a score of one to nothing.

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Speaker 4: Don't find it that remarkable, Randall.

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Speaker 2: Congratulations Brody. Let's see Phil. How's the Chat doing today.

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Speaker 2: It's been a scintillating program so far.

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Speaker 8: It sure has the chat at questions from the Chat today,

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Speaker 8: So get those in your chances.

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Speaker 6: Are because if they're not questions, that means there's comments

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Speaker 6: looking scary numbers.

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Speaker 8: Oh no, most most people are still talking about phills

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Speaker 8: with a sector my vasectomy. They're asking Randall about beating

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Speaker 8: off a mountain lion, which, if you haven't listened to

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Speaker 8: last episode of the media podcast, check that out. But

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Speaker 8: I want to shut that shout out Brad Weber, who says, Hey,

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Speaker 8: thanks to you and the team or for the shout

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Speaker 8: out to our bunny hunting group last week. It brought

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Speaker 8: us great luck, thirty rabbits and a bonus raccoon day

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Speaker 8: enjoying host.

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Speaker 2: I wish we got more of that. I wish we

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Speaker 2: got like, hey, we're going to this good luck and

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Speaker 2: then a follow up. Yeah, that's great. Then we'd have

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Speaker 2: a better sense of our ability to confer luck on

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Speaker 2: the audience.

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Speaker 8: We could just pivot the idea of the show completely.

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Speaker 8: It could just kind of be like a.

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Speaker 2: Phil I've been rethinking the whole thing well from the

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Speaker 2: ground up.

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Speaker 8: We'll see how that pans out. Uh, Free Crank asks Brody,

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Speaker 8: did you see the Pennsylvania Game Commission wants to change

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Speaker 8: hunting season in Pa again. They want to possibly move

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Speaker 8: the opening day of Rifle to the week before Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 6: You know, my dad just sent that to me this

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Speaker 6: very morning, and uh, I think it will be like

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Speaker 6: if they made that change, I think it would be

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Speaker 6: very unpopular to like have Thanksgiving in the middle.

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Speaker 2: Of deer season.

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Speaker 6: They changed they They recently changed opening day of rifle

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Speaker 6: season from the Monday after Thanksgiving to the Saturday after Thanksgiving,

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Speaker 6: which you would think would have been a popular move,

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Speaker 6: but a lot of people hated it. So I think

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Speaker 6: backing it up a week and sticking a national holiday

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Speaker 6: in the middle of deer season would be unpopular.

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Speaker 2: That's my thoughts.

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Speaker 8: Thank you, Brody. Yeah, we had a comment from Valancourt

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Speaker 8: that was quickly followed up from by somebody else. He says,

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Speaker 8: any hot tips or advice on the best way to

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Speaker 8: prepare marmot and then I don't remember who, someone said

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Speaker 8: watch out for the plague, because apparently that's a real thing. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I'm not endorsing this practice, but I would have to

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Speaker 2: guess some sort of a slow cook listen fall off

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Speaker 2: the bone marmot clubs.

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Speaker 6: The traditional way is to uh and we're gonna you know,

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Speaker 6: we're gonna try this for the last cookbook we did,

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Speaker 6: the Outdoor Cookbook. There are cultures that just like cook

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Speaker 6: them inside their like with the hair on and everything.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, try that.

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Speaker 6: But I shot a couple of Mormon marmots that did

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Speaker 6: not shoot a couple Mormons, I promise. I shot a

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Speaker 6: couple of marmots years ago in Colorado, and they were

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Speaker 6: the hardest thing to skin I have ever tried to skin,

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Speaker 6: like covered in greasy fat, like you know how squirrels

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Speaker 6: are hard to skin, hard to get that hide off.

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Speaker 4: And I will never eat another marmot again.

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Speaker 6: But good luck to you if you tried dipping it,

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Speaker 6: just like put it in a crock pot for about

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Speaker 6: thirty six hours.

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Speaker 2: And maybe with like a buffalo wing preparation.

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Speaker 8: Lots of barbecue shells.

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Speaker 2: Please keep us updated. Valancourt.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, we got Christy Holmes and the chat saying me

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Speaker 8: and thirty six ladies are going smelting tomorrow and Maine.

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Speaker 8: She was on one minute fishing last winter.

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Speaker 4: We's us lucky. Yeah, good luck, oh fried smelt. That's

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Speaker 4: a lot of good.

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Speaker 2: That's a lot of ladies. I assume that's not a typo.

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Speaker 2: Me and thirty I don't think I've ever done anything.

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Speaker 4: It's a real social thing.

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Speaker 2: Like thirty six people.

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Speaker 4: Brodie, Well, we should go there and go smelting with

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Speaker 4: these things.

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Speaker 2: Best of luck to you, Christy, Please keep us updated.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, Mogor is in the chat, Hi Randall, will there

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Speaker 8: be a movie review segment in the future, Chin scratching emoji.

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Speaker 8: It's been a very long time since the last one.

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Speaker 8: Thank you for your answer, Mogor.

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Speaker 2: I would love to do another movie review segment, to

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Speaker 2: be honest, our schedule has been a bit.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: There's been a lot of uncertainty around who's handling what

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Speaker 2: around the holiday, and we've had a sort of quickly

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Speaker 2: you know, long story short, we're a little behind eight pall,

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Speaker 2: But I will get a movie review going here soon

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Speaker 2: and it's gonna it's gonna blow everything else that I've

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Speaker 2: done previously out of the water.

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Speaker 4: Allowed the chat to choose the movie you.

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Speaker 8: Review, Uh get a lot of record.

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Speaker 2: I have a question for the chat, would uh do

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Speaker 2: you think Congo? The movie Congo is a good meat

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Speaker 2: eater movie club movie. It's not really hunting, but they're

661
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Speaker 2: animals and some of them do die most actually, if

662
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Speaker 2: you haven't seen the movie, they all die at the end.

663
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Speaker 2: Let us know.

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Speaker 8: Well, we wait for those results to file in. We've

665
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Speaker 8: got a question from Seth anyone else Mixed organ meets

666
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Speaker 8: with their ground. I was contemplating doing a one to

667
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Speaker 8: ten ratio adding some livery to my burger meat. Would

668
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Speaker 8: that be a mistake?

669
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Speaker 2: No, I mean I've never done it, but it sounds

670
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 2: like something that in countries where they make a lot

671
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 2: of interesting sausages. It sounds like something.

672
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Speaker 4: Then sure, I don't see why it wouldn't work. I've

673
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Speaker 4: thrown like cart and with my burger grind before.

674
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, good way to save and utilize the liver.

675
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 2: Eat that herd on its own though, would be mine. Yeah,

676
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 2: that's so good, but the liver, Yeah, toss it in there.

677
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Speaker 8: Cool, do one more before you too. Wait, next guest,

678
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Speaker 8: this is from Blaine. I've been looking for Teddy Roosevelt

679
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 8: documentary to read. I think he means biography, but there

680
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 8: are so many to choose from. You guys, have any

681
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 8: advice on the best one, rand.

682
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 2: I think the the the new classic is uh, Douglas

683
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 2: Brinkley Wilderness Warrior. There's another one, Theodore Rex.

684
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 6: That's that's like toom that's like a wilderness Warrior is

685
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 6: like a brick man. Yeah, I think while Randall's thinking

686
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 6: about an actual biography, if you want something a little lighter,

687
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,800
Speaker 6: that's like a real fun read and it has a

688
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 6: lot of adventure and craziness in it.

689
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 2: Read River of Doubt. Oh yeah, Canvas it's a very cool.

690
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Speaker 6: It's like post Teddy's Presidency where he's like bumming because

691
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 6: he's getting old and he wants to do one last

692
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,360
Speaker 6: adventure and he goes to look for the source of

693
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Speaker 6: a river.

694
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Speaker 4: In the Amazon.

695
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:14,839
Speaker 2: It's super cool. Yeah, Edmund Morris, Theodore Rex. And then

696
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Speaker 2: I'm sure, what's the name of the guy that writes

697
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:19,800
Speaker 2: biographies of everybody?

698
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 4: I know exactly who you're talking about.

699
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 2: I can't think of his name. Yeah, there's a lot

700
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 2: out there. I think. Then Brinkley the Wilderness Warrior really

701
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:36,359
Speaker 2: focuses on his conservation legacy. And if that's what gets

702
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 2: you interested, I checked that one out.

703
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, is everyone called the Rough Riders?

704
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Speaker 2: Am I just making that up? I'm sure there's a

705
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Speaker 2: book called The Rough Riders. Google's failing me, Randal.

706
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Speaker 8: There's no way you have not seen this movie based

707
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Speaker 8: on the director in the cast. But someone suggested the

708
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Speaker 8: Legacy of a White Tail Deer Hunter, which is a

709
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Speaker 8: Jody Hill movie.

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Speaker 2: You know what, I really wanted to do that, and

711
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Speaker 2: I thought it would be fun to get if it's

712
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Speaker 2: the one I'm thinking of, it's it's a movie about

713
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Speaker 2: Is this the one about the guy who has the

714
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 2: TV show?

715
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Speaker 8: Yes, yeah, yeah, Josh Brolin's in it, Carrie Coon.

716
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Speaker 2: I thought Dan mcrid I thought it would be really

717
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 2: funny to do that with Steve and Giannis and like

718
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 2: ask them about oh, sure, you know the the overlap.

719
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Speaker 2: But they both summarily rejected that out of hand because

720
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Speaker 2: it's one of those things they're too close to it

721
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Speaker 2: to even enjoy it.

722
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Speaker 8: So that's that's the that's the whole point.

723
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Speaker 2: I don't want to be in a room with Steve

724
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 2: getting grouchy again already.

725
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Speaker 6: I mean, yeah, you should do that Buffalo Hunter Nicholas

726
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 6: Cage movie.

727
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Steve was.

728
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 6: Kind we should do that one tangentially and like just

729
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 6: like yeah, kind of a little bit at one involved

730
00:39:58,440 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 6: with the name of that one.

731
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Speaker 2: Let's do that. Let's do that one.

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Speaker 6: I forget what it's called, but I've been meaning like, yeah,

733
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Speaker 6: I mean, and check it out. Butcher's crossing, Yeah.

734
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Butcher's crossing. Well, I think we've got a I

735
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Speaker 2: think we've got through our question and answer segment here

736
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Speaker 2: because Mark Kenyon has been waiting very patiently on the line.

737
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Speaker 8: Yeah. I told him he could leave and come back later.

738
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Speaker 2: And now, oh, I'm looking at our schedule. We're way behind.

739
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Speaker 2: I don't know how we did that because we only

740
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Speaker 2: had two segments.

741
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Speaker 4: Oh listen, we always.

742
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Speaker 2: Go not again. Next up, we're joined by Mark Kenyon,

743
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Speaker 2: who recently became Meat Eaters Director of Conservation. Mark, it's

744
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Speaker 2: good to see you. Welcome to the show.

745
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Speaker 8: Thanks, Randall. It's great to be here.

746
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Speaker 2: It was.

747
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Speaker 5: It was more painful than anything having to sit here

748
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 5: and hear you guys talk about book recommendations and not

749
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Speaker 5: be able to speak.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, please chime in. Do you have a do you

751
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Speaker 2: have a favorite tr biography?

752
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 5: Well, like Brody said, the iconic one is The Wilderness Warrior,

753
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:59,839
Speaker 5: but it is a huge, you know, doorstop of a book.

754
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 5: A couple lighter reading versions. It'll get you some interesting

755
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 5: insight with some adventure along the way. Would be Leave

756
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:11,320
Speaker 5: It as it Is by David Gesner. That's an interesting

757
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 5: one that pairs a travel narrative with kind of an

758
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 5: exploration of Roosevelt and kind of wrestling with his legacy.

759
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,879
Speaker 5: And then another one is The Naturalist, and that takes

760
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Speaker 5: a look at Roosevelt's conservation legacy, and from a slightly

761
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Speaker 5: more I mean, as the title would suggest, not as

762
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Speaker 5: much on the hunting side, but a little bit more

763
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Speaker 5: about his background as an amateur naturalist, burder all those

764
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 5: different things early on in his life, and then how

765
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Speaker 5: that kind of came along with him. So those are

766
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Speaker 5: two easier reading options to consider.

767
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Speaker 2: Clearly we should have just pulled you in earlier in

768
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Speaker 2: this discussion, but I'm glad that I'm glad that our

769
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Speaker 2: faithful listeners have finally gotten you to weigh in on

770
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Speaker 2: that mark. If folks are paying attention to the news lately,

771
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Speaker 2: they know that you are the newest Meat Eater director

772
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:05,320
Speaker 2: of concert. You inherit your your position from a worthy

773
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,320
Speaker 2: man in Ryan Callahan, who's moved on to become the

774
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Speaker 2: CEO at BHA. Can you tell us what it means

775
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Speaker 2: to be the director of conservation at a company like

776
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Speaker 2: Meat Eater.

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Speaker 8: It's it's a huge honor.

778
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Speaker 5: It's something that I'm just really really thankful to get

779
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 5: to do. It's the kind of warp that I've been

780
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 5: dreaming of and working towards for a really long time.

781
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,919
Speaker 5: I think most people Immediator know me from what brought

782
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:36,280
Speaker 5: me in, which was my whitetail passion and of course

783
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 5: wired to hunt and all those things. But parallel to

784
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Speaker 5: all that, I've had this growing desire to find ways

785
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 5: that I can make a difference on the conservation side,

786
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 5: and so that's led me to tackle all sorts of

787
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 5: side hustle projects like writing my books about public lands

788
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:54,879
Speaker 5: and wildlife, and you know, doing increasingly new things within

789
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Speaker 5: the mediator world, whether that's you know, founding the Working

790
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:01,280
Speaker 5: for Wildlife tour or representing us with the Theodore Roosevelt

791
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 5: Conservation Partnership at events, and all sorts of different things.

792
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Speaker 5: So it's been a long time coming. It worked out

793
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 5: really great that, you know, Cal was moving on to

794
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 5: even bigger and better things, and me and him had

795
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 5: worked together on so much over the last few years

796
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 5: that this is a pretty natural thing to step into.

797
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 5: And I'm just really excited because I'm on fire about it,

798
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 5: and there's a great need at the moment too, So

799
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Speaker 5: I'm excited to continue to build off this great conservation

800
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 5: you know foundation that Cal and Steve and and really

801
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 5: the whole team is built over the years.

802
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 2: And what are the types of things like week to

803
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:36,839
Speaker 2: maybe not day to day, but week to week sort

804
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,399
Speaker 2: of what what is that role and compass in terms

805
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 2: of like who are you talking to, what are you doing,

806
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 2: what are you working towards.

807
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, there's a lot of different things that

808
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 5: it's going to entail. I think on one hand, there's

809
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:53,359
Speaker 5: like the long term strategy, which is thinking about how

810
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 5: do we at Mediator strategically rally our resources and our

811
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 5: voice and our platform to work towards better conservation outcomes.

812
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 5: So sometimes that's reacting to a bad piece of legislation.

813
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,839
Speaker 5: How do we educate everyone who's listening to us, how

814
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:12,840
Speaker 5: do we inspire and activate people to do something about it.

815
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 5: How do we use our you know, our funding or

816
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 5: our relationships or anything like that to move the needle.

817
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 5: On the flip side, then it's thinking about how do

818
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:24,840
Speaker 5: we think about conservation storytelling and the content we do

819
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,839
Speaker 5: and thinking, you know, a long ways out where are

820
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 5: we needed on that front? And then kind of on

821
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 5: a day to day basis, it's making sure that you know,

822
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:37,320
Speaker 5: we at Mediator are tapped into what's happening, whether it

823
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 5: be you know, on the wildlife management side of things,

824
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 5: or the public land side of things, or the million

825
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:46,800
Speaker 5: different news bites that are popping up every day, understanding

826
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Speaker 5: what's happening, talking to our conservation partners, talking to contacts

827
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:53,280
Speaker 5: you know, in Washington, d C. Or in state capitals,

828
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Speaker 5: and figuring out what are the issues that are impacting

829
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 5: hunters and anglers and wildlife and wild places and is

830
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 5: you know, any one of those things something that we

831
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 5: should be engaging in, whether that be just with you know,

832
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 5: us educating, or us doing some other things too.

833
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 2: So that's a little bit of what's going to look like.

834
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Speaker 5: We'll be doing more content, more news, more education, and

835
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 5: then I think what I'm really excited about is finding

836
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Speaker 5: ways to help not just us at the company, but

837
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 5: our entire community more actively engage. How do we actually

838
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 5: like get boots on the ground and do good things

839
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 5: for wildlife and wild places. How do we show up

840
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 5: in person to make sure that public lands stay in

841
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 5: public hands? How do how do we do these things

842
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 5: in really concrete ways. I think that's been a trademark

843
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 5: of Meta in many ways, and you know, whether it

844
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:47,320
Speaker 5: be our content, storytelling, cookbooks. So how do we continue

845
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 5: to do that on the conservation front, maybe in bolder

846
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 5: ways than we ever have?

847
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 2: Well, I know everybody here is excited to have you

848
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 2: in that role because it's a great fit and looking

849
00:45:57,640 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 2: forward to seeing what you do there. But we brought

850
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 2: you on TOTO to talk about another bit of news

851
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:06,319
Speaker 2: and another person who is nominated for a new job here.

852
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 2: And it's sort of been flying under the radar, but

853
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 2: recently there's been some attention pointed to the administration's nomination

854
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 2: of Steve Pierce to direct the Bureau of Land Management,

855
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 2: and there's a bit of controversy around it. Can you

856
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 2: tell us a little bit about this individual and maybe

857
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 2: what's at stake with the nomination, Like what does the

858
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Speaker 2: BLM director do and who's the guy that might have

859
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 2: that job.

860
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I'll give you a very short answer to

861
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 5: the first part of that, and then we can dive

862
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 5: in further if you want. But the Director of the

863
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:44,319
Speaker 5: Bureau of Land Management oversees a massive swath of our

864
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 5: federal public lands. It's it's somewhere in the you know,

865
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Speaker 5: somewhere between two hundred and forty and two hundred and

866
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 5: fifty million acres of our public lands are managed by

867
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Speaker 5: this person. He gets to spearhead how resource management plans

868
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 5: are put into the ground and developed, So what actually

869
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 5: happens on this landscape. This person will oversee and approve

870
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:08,320
Speaker 5: or rescind the rules that this organization makes really important

871
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 5: things that dictate, you know, how we manage these landscapes,

872
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 5: how we extract resources from them, how we utilize them

873
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 5: and allow others to utilize them, whether that's for extraction

874
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 5: or grazing, or recreation or conservation. This is the person

875
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Speaker 5: that you know, part of what the BLM has done

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00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:30,320
Speaker 5: the past and other land managing agencies is they assess

877
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:33,839
Speaker 5: the lands that they manage and they determine if those

878
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:37,840
Speaker 5: are appropriate lands for disposal. Even that's something that does happen,

879
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 5: that's something that this person could do. So whoever sits

880
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 5: in this seat has wide authority over a big chunk

881
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 5: of ground that you know, hunters and anglers really care about.

882
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:51,879
Speaker 5: I mean, this is some of our very best pronghorn hunting,

883
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 5: mule deer hunting, elk hunting, sage, grouse habitat, all sorts

884
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:59,240
Speaker 5: of grouse habitat. This is big, wide open, beautiful country

885
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 5: a lot of us hold dear. So, yeah, this is

886
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 5: a pretty important job. And there are some red flags

887
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 5: right now about Steve Pierce because of you know, not

888
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 5: just one thing.

889
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 8: He said.

890
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 5: I feel like, you know, it's easy these days, in

891
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 5: the era of cancel culture, if you say one thing

892
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 5: wrong right, it'd be pretty easy to get in big

893
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 5: trouble for just saying one thing wrong. Steve Pierce has

894
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 5: had a long legacy of saying many things that don't

895
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 5: come off too well when it comes to public lands.

896
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 5: A lot of statements, a lot of letters, and actual

897
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 5: support of legislation in his previous jobs that do not

898
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 5: bode well for someone in this position. So he was

899
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 5: a congressman from he was a congressman twice from two

900
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:48,360
Speaker 5: thousand and three to two thousand and nine I believe,

901
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 5: and eleven to nineteen in the state of New Mexico.

902
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:57,319
Speaker 5: And over the course of that timeframe multiple instances where

903
00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:01,240
Speaker 5: he's spoken about how the federal government should own lands,

904
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 5: how federal public lands should be sold off, how the

905
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 5: land estate should be shrunk. He co authored a letter

906
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 5: to the Speaker of the House back in twenty twelve,

907
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 5: I think it was pushing for the sale of public lands.

908
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:17,840
Speaker 5: He co sponsored a bill that would sell public lands.

909
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:22,799
Speaker 5: He supported the Jason Chavez twenty seventeen bill that would

910
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 5: sell off three some million acres of public lands, and

911
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 5: just I could go on and on. There's so many

912
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 5: of these examples. So yeah, that is a little bit

913
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 5: concerning if somebody who has actively tried to sell off

914
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 5: our public lands or actively tried to shrink public lands,

915
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 5: if he's now in charge of them. So at the

916
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 5: high level, that's why this is raising some eyebrows.

917
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I mean it seems very clear that it's

918
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 2: like a fox in the hen House situation potentially. How

919
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 2: have conservation groups reacted to this news. I believe he

920
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 2: was nominated at the end of last year and his

921
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:02,839
Speaker 2: point or his confirmation here are still forthcoming. But what's

922
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:04,959
Speaker 2: what's the word on the street right now from folks

923
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:07,360
Speaker 2: that care about public lands and fish and wildlife.

924
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:11,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, it has been you know, as you would expect,

925
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 5: a lot of concern, a lot of people raising the

926
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:16,400
Speaker 5: same points that I just did. The fox and the

927
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:17,760
Speaker 5: Henhouse analogy is perfect.

928
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:19,319
Speaker 2: A group of.

929
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:23,799
Speaker 5: Eighty or so environmental and conservation organizations sent a letter

930
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 5: to the leaders of the Senate Energy and Natural Resources

931
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 5: Committee just recently expressing, you know, serious concerns along the

932
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 5: lines of what I've just mentioned.

933
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 8: So, yeah, there's a lot of pushback.

934
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 5: Our good buddy cal He has been sounding the alarm

935
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 5: at bat Country Hunters and Anglers. I know he was

936
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 5: just in DC recently talking to folks about this as well. So, yeah,

937
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:51,400
Speaker 5: I think the alarm is being wrong. I think there

938
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 5: is reason to you know, you want to give the

939
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 5: guy the benefit of the doubt if he gets the job,

940
00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 5: but I would like him to do so if that's

941
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:02,840
Speaker 5: going to happen, and with some commitments on the record

942
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 5: to not do and to not pursue some of the

943
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 5: ideas that he's voiced support.

944
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:10,800
Speaker 2: For in the past. Yeah, No, that makes total sense.

945
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:15,360
Speaker 2: Do you know if there's if there's a confirmation hearing scheduled,

946
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 2: and then you know, in the meantime, how can people

947
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 2: make a difference if they want to weigh in on this.

948
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 5: So the hearing has not been announced yet, but it

949
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 5: seems like it's imminent. You know, everyone's talking about it

950
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 5: happening sometime soon. And I think what we can do

951
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:36,319
Speaker 5: about it is is let our here.

952
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:36,839
Speaker 2: Here's the thing.

953
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 5: From everything I understand and from everyone I've talked to,

954
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 5: it's very very unlikely that his approval, his nomination will

955
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:44,839
Speaker 5: not be approved. He's likely going to get the job.

956
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:48,799
Speaker 5: So then the question is, well, are we wasting our

957
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 5: time raising a stink about it because he's going to

958
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:52,279
Speaker 5: get the job no matter what, So why are we

959
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 5: why are we going to use those resources? And what

960
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:57,759
Speaker 5: it seems that the play here seems to be that

961
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 5: in this nomination hearing, he has to stand up in

962
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 5: front of everyone and answer questions under oath about what

963
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 5: his plans are, what his views are, what the direction

964
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 5: of this is going to be, and he's going to

965
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 5: have to answer for his past statements and actions as well.

966
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:16,759
Speaker 5: And so what we as hunters and anglers and people

967
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 5: who care about these places can do is we can

968
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 5: ask our senators, especially if they sit on the Energy

969
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:25,880
Speaker 5: and Natural Resources Committee, who will get to be a

970
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:29,799
Speaker 5: part of that. We can ask them to ask these

971
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 5: tough questions. We can explain to them why this matters

972
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:35,839
Speaker 5: to us in whatever state you live in, and why

973
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:40,279
Speaker 5: it's important that if Steve Pierce gets this job, in

974
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 5: this job interview that he's going to effectively be on,

975
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:45,320
Speaker 5: he's got to answer for some of these stuff. So

976
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 5: BHA has done a really cool and easy thing that

977
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:51,880
Speaker 5: for anyone wants to participate and they can If you

978
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 5: go to Backcountry Hunters and Angler's Instagram account, there's a

979
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 5: link to send in what you think your senators should

980
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 5: ask him during this job, and he gives you a

981
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:05,359
Speaker 5: couple three four suggested questions, or you can ask your own.

982
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 5: But this is just how we would want to press him.

983
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 5: What we would like this guy to have to answer

984
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:13,759
Speaker 5: to on the record and provide some explanation for so

985
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:16,319
Speaker 5: things like you know, what will you do to ensure

986
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 5: public lands stay in public hands or aren't sold or transferred.

987
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 5: I would love for him to have to answer that

988
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 5: question on the record, and hopefully we can get some commitments,

989
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:30,439
Speaker 5: some guarantees from him publicly that he won't pursue those things.

990
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 5: Same thing goes for many other questions related to how

991
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 5: you know the BLM will balance conservation.

992
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:39,320
Speaker 2: With resource extraction.

993
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:43,319
Speaker 5: There's a lot of concerns there, so we probably can't

994
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 5: stop it, but we might be able to frame the

995
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:49,840
Speaker 5: conversation around his role and his taking that role in

996
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 5: such a way that it can maybe at least put

997
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 5: some public pressure on him and keep him and keep

998
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 5: things from going as badly as maybe they could, and

999
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 5: may maybe he'll turn out great. Maybe the things he

1000
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 5: said in the past. Uh, maybe feels differently now. I

1001
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 5: hope so, but we should we should definitely ask him

1002
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:09,320
Speaker 5: to speak on that publicly and give us some assurances.

1003
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 2: Mark. Really appreciate you taking the time. Folks can follow

1004
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:17,280
Speaker 2: you to learn more about this and many other issues.

1005
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:22,399
Speaker 2: And yeah, we'll keep our eyes on mister Pierce. And yeah,

1006
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 2: looking forward to seeing what you do in the new roles.

1007
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 2: Thanks for coming on, appreciate it.

1008
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 5: Hey, Phil, good luck with that vasectomy.

1009
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:29,319
Speaker 8: I had to have two of them.

1010
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, that's right.

1011
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 8: I hope I have a better look than you. Mark.

1012
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 8: Thank you. I think I think they'll make a difference.

1013
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:39,279
Speaker 8: You're there, fingers crossed for a pill.

1014
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 2: Take care, Mark, We'll see. Thanks.

1015
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 1: Mark.

1016
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 4: Seems like an opportunity for a malpractice suit.

1017
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:49,279
Speaker 2: I don't think it's as rare as as you'd like

1018
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 2: to think. All right, guys, again, we're geez, we're just

1019
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:56,439
Speaker 2: running behind time, but that's because we're having so much fun.

1020
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 2: And our next segment is meat poll.

1021
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 6: Are you sure about that?

1022
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 8: It's a meat Eat Radio Live fu.

1023
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:11,279
Speaker 2: Oh that's right. We're doing something brand new today. For

1024
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 2: the very first time, we've lied to one of the

1025
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 2: hosts in the studio about what we're doing. We're actually

1026
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 2: gonna play do a segment called meat Theater. Brodie, I'm

1027
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:31,839
Speaker 2: passing out scripts now. I don't know if you saw

1028
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 2: the last Meat Theater. I'll explain it in just one second.

1029
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:39,399
Speaker 2: I get filled his script. There you go film.

1030
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:43,360
Speaker 8: Oh thanks, Randall, appreciate it all right, this is awesome.

1031
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 2: I heard rumors about this, but well, O. Meat theater

1032
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:51,879
Speaker 2: is where we take out Stunn. Sorry, I'll begin again.

1033
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 2: Meat theater is where we take outstanding hunting literature and

1034
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 2: feeded it artificial intelligence, asking the computer to generate a

1035
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 2: short traumatic script to be perform live by untrained actors.

1036
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:06,919
Speaker 2: For today's performance, we're revisiting another classic Ernest Hemingway story,

1037
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 2: the nineteen fifty two novella The Old Man in the Sea.

1038
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 2: Director's note. I had to ask the AI to revise

1039
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:15,800
Speaker 2: its original script to include a speaking part for the fish,

1040
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 2: so we had three roles. Yes. Then I asked the

1041
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:20,360
Speaker 2: AI to make the fish use a lot of profanity.

1042
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 2: But then I thought better of it, and nasty AI

1043
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:26,360
Speaker 2: to replace those swear words with some tamer nineteen fifties alternatives,

1044
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 2: so that this would all be very realistic. I'm playing

1045
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 2: Santiago the fisherman.

1046
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 1: Uh.

1047
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:37,800
Speaker 4: I really apologize to everyone for this.

1048
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 2: This is a fan favor. Brody, Corey, you're playing Mandolin,

1049
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:44,479
Speaker 2: who's a small boy. So I'd like you to speak

1050
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:47,280
Speaker 2: in the highest voice you can. And Brody, you're playing

1051
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 2: the fish. Isn't that exciting? Lucky, very exciting, Phil, take

1052
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 2: it away.

1053
00:56:57,680 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 4: I'll just bide my time until you get to me.

1054
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:06,719
Speaker 8: The setting is Cuba, the nineteen fifties. Santiago is an

1055
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:10,440
Speaker 8: old fisherman. He has gone eighty four days without catching

1056
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 8: a fish. Manelin, a local boy, helps him prepare his

1057
00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 8: fishing lines in the early dawn outside his small shack.

1058
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 7: That's you, Corey, eighty four days, Santiago. My father says,

1059
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 7: I must fish in another boat. I know, but you

1060
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 7: are still the best fisherman.

1061
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 2: You taught me everything. Your father is right. A boy

1062
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 2: should be with a lucky boat.

1063
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:39,440
Speaker 7: Luck is a thing that comes in many forms.

1064
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 2: Tomorrow you will catch a fish. I can feel it.

1065
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:46,600
Speaker 2: Perhaps tomorrow I will go far out beyond all the others.

1066
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 2: I wish I could go with you, but you are

1067
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 2: with another boat now. But bring me sardines for bait

1068
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 2: in the morning, and we will speak of baseball.

1069
00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 7: Tamaggio's street continues.

1070
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 2: Of course he is a great man, even with the

1071
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:04,640
Speaker 2: bone spur in his heel. He plays. Do you think

1072
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 2: we are that great? Medoline?

1073
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 7: I think you are.

1074
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 8: How's that it's great? The next morning, before dawn, Santiago

1075
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 8: went far out to sea alone.

1076
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 2: I'm not religious, but I will say ten our fathers,

1077
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:26,920
Speaker 2: and ten hail Mary's. If I can catch a fish,

1078
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 2: I promise.

1079
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:30,680
Speaker 8: He feels a pull on the line.

1080
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:32,959
Speaker 2: There something not yet.

1081
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 8: Wait, wait, suddenly the line jerks ah, a big one.

1082
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 8: Santiago struggles with the line, trying to pull in his catch.

1083
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 2: He will not come up, too heavy, too strong. Come up, fish,

1084
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 2: please come up.

1085
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 4: I will not yie, old cuban cuss.

1086
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 2: Then I will stay with you, brother, however long it takes.

1087
00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 6: You are tied to me, old man, as I am

1088
00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 6: tied to you. I pull you north and west away

1089
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:01,040
Speaker 6: from your home.

1090
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:03,120
Speaker 4: Confound you for hooking me.

1091
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:06,080
Speaker 2: Pull me wherever you wish. I will not let go,

1092
00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 2: you stubborn son of a gun.

1093
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:13,640
Speaker 4: You should just cut the line. I am stronger than you.

1094
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:18,520
Speaker 6: Your hands bleed, old man, you cannot rest. Why intarnation

1095
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:19,560
Speaker 6: do you not cut.

1096
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 2: This line because you are my brother, because you are

1097
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:24,880
Speaker 2: the greatest thing I have ever seen.

1098
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 8: The fish pulled the boat northwest. For two days and

1099
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:33,720
Speaker 8: two nights. Santiago held the line until his hands bled.

1100
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:37,400
Speaker 8: He could not eat, he could not sleep, but he

1101
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:38,280
Speaker 8: would not let go.

1102
00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:43,440
Speaker 6: You suffer, old man. I feel a line cutting into me,

1103
00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:46,840
Speaker 6: and I know you feel it cutting into you. We

1104
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:50,080
Speaker 6: are both we are both in pain.

1105
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 2: Get zooks. Yeah, yes, But I was born for this

1106
00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:57,880
Speaker 2: and you were born for.

1107
00:59:57,960 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 4: This, born for this, dag.

1108
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 8: Why must you kill me?

1109
01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:05,520
Speaker 2: I have done nothing to you. You are killing me fish,

1110
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:08,600
Speaker 2: but you have the right to. Never have I seen

1111
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 2: anything greater, or more beautiful or more calm than you. Brother.

1112
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 2: I do not know if I am worthy to kill

1113
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:17,919
Speaker 2: such a fish, but I will try. I will show

1114
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:20,280
Speaker 2: you what a man can do and what a man endures.

1115
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:28,280
Speaker 6: Krites and show me, old man, show me, Gosh, darn it,

1116
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:29,320
Speaker 6: I will not.

1117
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:31,400
Speaker 4: I will show you what a fish can do.

1118
01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:35,000
Speaker 2: Come up. I'm an old man, but I am not defeated.

1119
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:38,720
Speaker 2: Come up, h double hockey sticks.

1120
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:41,040
Speaker 4: I have pulled you far from land.

1121
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:44,240
Speaker 2: I have fought well. You have fought better than any

1122
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:45,480
Speaker 2: fish I have known.

1123
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:48,880
Speaker 6: And you, old man, have fought better than any man

1124
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:51,360
Speaker 6: I have ever known. Very well.

1125
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:52,840
Speaker 2: I am coming up.

1126
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:59,840
Speaker 8: G willickers, you have heard this. With one last pull,

1127
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 8: Santiago brings his catch to the surface.

1128
01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:09,000
Speaker 2: Eighteen feet maybe more a thousand pounds at least. There.

1129
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:09,760
Speaker 1: It is done.

1130
01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:11,520
Speaker 2: It is done.

1131
01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:16,800
Speaker 4: We fought yell well, you and I he gads, we.

1132
01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:18,000
Speaker 2: Fought very well. Brother.

1133
01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:23,000
Speaker 10: Now now I am tied to your damned boat. You're

1134
01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:27,240
Speaker 10: taking me home. Yes, the boy will see you. Everyone

1135
01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:30,560
Speaker 10: will see you. They will know what we did together.

1136
01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:34,240
Speaker 4: I hope they will, old man, I hope.

1137
01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:39,960
Speaker 8: Santiago had killed the fish, but it was too big

1138
01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:42,600
Speaker 8: to bring into the boat. He lashed it to the

1139
01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:46,520
Speaker 8: side and began the long journey home. But the sharks

1140
01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:47,560
Speaker 8: smelled the blood.

1141
01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:50,320
Speaker 2: No, no, mako sharks.

1142
01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:52,560
Speaker 4: They come for me, old man.

1143
01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:54,800
Speaker 2: They will destroy what we have done.

1144
01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:56,840
Speaker 4: Goll danged sharks.

1145
01:01:58,520 --> 01:01:59,720
Speaker 2: No, I will fight them.

1146
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:03,800
Speaker 8: Santiago strikes at the sharks with his oar.

1147
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:10,600
Speaker 4: Take that and that or coming barnacles. You cannot stop

1148
01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:11,080
Speaker 4: them all.

1149
01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 2: I will try, brother, I will try.

1150
01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:19,240
Speaker 8: More sharks came. Ope, that's the wrong camera. More sharks came.

1151
01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:23,600
Speaker 8: Santiago fought them all with harpoon, with knife, with club,

1152
01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:24,720
Speaker 8: with the tiller.

1153
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:30,080
Speaker 2: But there were too many eat you scavengers. Aye, I

1154
01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:33,440
Speaker 2: went out too far. I have ruined us both fish.

1155
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:35,480
Speaker 2: You did not ruin us.

1156
01:02:36,040 --> 01:02:39,400
Speaker 4: Cuss these sharks. We did what we were meant to do.

1157
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:42,000
Speaker 2: You fought. I fought.

1158
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:43,919
Speaker 5: That is enough?

1159
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 2: Is it enough? It is enough.

1160
01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:52,760
Speaker 8: By the time Santiago reached the harbor in the dark,

1161
01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:58,080
Speaker 8: the sharks had eaten everything. Only the skeleton remained. Eighteen

1162
01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:01,680
Speaker 8: feet of bones bounds to the boat, but the fish's

1163
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:03,360
Speaker 8: voice had gone silent.

1164
01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:07,480
Speaker 2: Santiago, Ah, Manolin, you are here.

1165
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:12,040
Speaker 7: I saw the fish, the skeleton. How much did it weigh?

1166
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:16,040
Speaker 2: I do not know. The sharks ate it, all of it.

1167
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:20,840
Speaker 7: But everyone has seen it. Fifteen feet from nose to tail,

1168
01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:25,080
Speaker 7: some say eighteen. It is the greatest fish anyone has

1169
01:03:25,160 --> 01:03:25,680
Speaker 7: ever seen.

1170
01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:27,040
Speaker 2: But they ate it.

1171
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:29,800
Speaker 7: You beat the fish.

1172
01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:31,360
Speaker 6: That is what matters.

1173
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:35,960
Speaker 7: Tomorrow I will fish with you again. My father can

1174
01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:38,840
Speaker 7: say what he wants. I will fish with you. You

1175
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:44,439
Speaker 7: think so, I know, so now rest I will bring

1176
01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:45,040
Speaker 7: you food.

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01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:51,760
Speaker 2: Mandolin. Yeah, I had a dream. I was dreaming about

1178
01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:52,840
Speaker 2: the lions.

1179
01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:55,720
Speaker 7: The lions on the beach in Africa.

1180
01:03:56,600 --> 01:03:59,880
Speaker 2: Yes, when I was your age, I saw them playing

1181
01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:04,720
Speaker 2: on the shore like cats. I dream about them still.

1182
01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:12,280
Speaker 8: The old man fell asleep and he dreamed of lions

1183
01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:15,080
Speaker 8: on the white beaches of his youth, when the world

1184
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:18,080
Speaker 8: was new and all things were possible.

1185
01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:29,840
Speaker 2: The end audience goes nuts. The black oh Man.

1186
01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:32,800
Speaker 8: I was so excited for that.

1187
01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:36,040
Speaker 2: I'd forgotten we're still in this hazy twilight of the studio.

1188
01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:39,920
Speaker 2: I'd forgotten that I made Brody. I made Brody a

1189
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:42,560
Speaker 2: fish mask, and I didn't give it to him. But

1190
01:04:42,680 --> 01:04:44,320
Speaker 2: it's probably for the best, because I don't think.

1191
01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:47,840
Speaker 4: Because this doesn't look like a marlin.

1192
01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:50,680
Speaker 2: I just googled fish mask and printed the first thing

1193
01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:54,840
Speaker 2: I found. Well, that was a fun new segment called

1194
01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:58,920
Speaker 2: Meat Eater, Fake Out, Slash Meet Theater. I had a

1195
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:01,440
Speaker 2: great time with it. I hope the audience enjoyed it

1196
01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:01,760
Speaker 2: as well.

1197
01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:04,120
Speaker 8: Brody Round a plaus for Brody Henderson.

1198
01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:08,560
Speaker 2: Studio and have have the the whole thing flipped on

1199
01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:10,480
Speaker 2: you and have to perform a play live. It was

1200
01:05:10,560 --> 01:05:12,880
Speaker 2: more fun. I think it was a lot of fun. Boy.

1201
01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:14,440
Speaker 3: I can't wait to see your revenge.

1202
01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:16,880
Speaker 2: Phil. What's the chat saying about our you know what?

1203
01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:20,480
Speaker 8: I haven't been able to look because it's mostly vasectomy talk.

1204
01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:23,200
Speaker 8: A lot of vasectomy talk. Seems like people are more

1205
01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:26,960
Speaker 8: interested in viseectomies than our meat theater segment. Let's see

1206
01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:28,160
Speaker 8: this is a masterpiece.

1207
01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:31,439
Speaker 2: I wish that we had given Corey a dry run

1208
01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:35,080
Speaker 2: because I feel in the second the third act, his

1209
01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:39,520
Speaker 2: voice was dialed straight dial Yeah. Practice make started off

1210
01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:42,160
Speaker 2: a little choppy, but by the end it was very convincing.

1211
01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:42,720
Speaker 2: Oh thank you.

1212
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:46,640
Speaker 8: What did I just tune into for a Tommy Pickle crap?

1213
01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:48,600
Speaker 8: I zonned out? What the heck's going on? These are

1214
01:05:48,640 --> 01:05:52,160
Speaker 8: most of the comments. Thanks guys for staying on the line.

1215
01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:53,920
Speaker 8: You know, our viewer count is higher now than it

1216
01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:55,840
Speaker 8: was before we started the second Oh.

1217
01:05:56,320 --> 01:05:58,000
Speaker 2: Man, let's hope this show never goes.

1218
01:05:58,480 --> 01:05:59,880
Speaker 8: Someone called someone called the Sudents.

1219
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:01,720
Speaker 2: That's good, that's good stuff.

1220
01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:03,560
Speaker 8: Okay, we got some questions here. Do you any of

1221
01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:07,120
Speaker 8: you guys keep bees? That's from Sean. No.

1222
01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:10,480
Speaker 2: I hate bees, I'll be honest. I react really poorly

1223
01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:13,280
Speaker 2: to beastings. A friend of mine keeps bees. It seems

1224
01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:18,200
Speaker 2: like an incredibly time intensive hobby, or at least he

1225
01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:21,560
Speaker 2: talks about bees more than I'd like him to. But

1226
01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:24,480
Speaker 2: I do enjoy the honey the honey is very good,

1227
01:06:24,520 --> 01:06:25,960
Speaker 2: and honey is expensive.

1228
01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:26,400
Speaker 5: It is.

1229
01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:32,400
Speaker 6: We're actually my youngest kid and I are seriously considering

1230
01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:35,440
Speaker 6: getting a hive this summer. Cool because you can do

1231
01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:38,160
Speaker 6: like mail order stuff for that you just ordered, it

1232
01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:42,320
Speaker 6: shows up your door, Bingo Mango. Steve has a buddy

1233
01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:44,480
Speaker 6: up in Alaska. I didn't even know this was a thing.

1234
01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:49,080
Speaker 6: They just do a hive every summer and.

1235
01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:50,840
Speaker 5: That's it.

1236
01:06:51,040 --> 01:06:53,440
Speaker 6: Then they do a new hive because like I always thought,

1237
01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:56,080
Speaker 6: you had to deal with them over the winner, maybe

1238
01:06:56,160 --> 01:06:58,600
Speaker 6: send him somewhere warm or whatever. But yeah, I want

1239
01:06:58,640 --> 01:06:59,240
Speaker 6: to give it a try.

1240
01:06:59,600 --> 01:07:02,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not really what you know, but who you know?

1241
01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:04,840
Speaker 2: My wife and I get a giant bucket of honey

1242
01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:07,240
Speaker 2: every year for yeah, some farmers and friends of ours,

1243
01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:09,760
Speaker 2: now that I think about it. At one point I

1244
01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:14,640
Speaker 2: was asked by a coworker. I had to drive from

1245
01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:18,480
Speaker 2: Spokane to Helena and I was asked to bring bees

1246
01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:20,920
Speaker 2: from one place to the other. And so a guy

1247
01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:23,040
Speaker 2: showed up and put a bunch of bees in my

1248
01:07:23,320 --> 01:07:26,200
Speaker 2: car with me. I had a hunt of pilot at

1249
01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:33,440
Speaker 2: the time, and I drove. I drove whatever four and

1250
01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:36,960
Speaker 2: a half five hours, just gripping the Steers. Yeah, it

1251
01:07:37,080 --> 01:07:38,959
Speaker 2: was very unsettling. It seemed like a bad movie.

1252
01:07:39,120 --> 01:07:41,800
Speaker 6: But I will say this, the whole like bear and

1253
01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:47,600
Speaker 6: honey thing is real. Back when Jannis I were guiding

1254
01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:50,680
Speaker 6: fly fish and Colorado, we had a private ranch that

1255
01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:52,560
Speaker 6: we would take out at now now and then. In

1256
01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:58,720
Speaker 6: that rancher had bees and he had to run electric

1257
01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:01,479
Speaker 6: fence around the high to keep the bears out because

1258
01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:03,360
Speaker 6: they would just go in there and tear it up.

1259
01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:06,360
Speaker 2: You know, I was in an area like that. Consider

1260
01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:09,520
Speaker 2: that I was hunting bears one spring outside of Missoula

1261
01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:12,880
Speaker 2: and it was private down in the bottom on this

1262
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:15,200
Speaker 2: forest service road that you drive past, and they had

1263
01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:18,800
Speaker 2: a bunch of a bunch of bee hives. And we

1264
01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:21,280
Speaker 2: drove past one time and they were like six skunks

1265
01:08:22,240 --> 01:08:26,160
Speaker 2: in like walking across the field towards the hives, like

1266
01:08:26,280 --> 01:08:29,000
Speaker 2: walking in between the hives. I'd never seen anything like it. Yeah,

1267
01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:30,760
Speaker 2: but it's just six skunks all out in the middle

1268
01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:33,760
Speaker 2: of the daylight, just dialed in on those on those

1269
01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:35,120
Speaker 2: be hives. Good point.

1270
01:08:35,920 --> 01:08:39,160
Speaker 8: This is from car Sarah Carland. I would guess currently

1271
01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:41,120
Speaker 8: listening to you guys while pike fishing in the dark

1272
01:08:41,240 --> 01:08:44,639
Speaker 8: on the Shannon River in Ireland. Thanks for keeping me company.

1273
01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:46,160
Speaker 8: Any pike fishing tips.

1274
01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:48,639
Speaker 2: For me, that's amazing. Oh, that's amazing.

1275
01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:50,439
Speaker 4: I don't know like.

1276
01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:55,200
Speaker 6: Pike fishing tips. He got any like live suckers? They

1277
01:08:55,280 --> 01:08:56,040
Speaker 6: really like those?

1278
01:08:57,080 --> 01:09:02,320
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, be careful when you lay one, gette slime

1279
01:09:02,360 --> 01:09:04,720
Speaker 2: all over your boat or your clothes, and keep your

1280
01:09:04,760 --> 01:09:06,320
Speaker 2: fingers away from the teeth and gills.

1281
01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:08,880
Speaker 6: What is strange to me is like, at least in

1282
01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:13,320
Speaker 6: my experience here in the US of a like, night

1283
01:09:13,439 --> 01:09:15,760
Speaker 6: fishing for pike is like not a thing.

1284
01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:19,679
Speaker 4: Like they're just not known to like feed well at night.

1285
01:09:20,040 --> 01:09:22,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, maybe we've got it all. I always

1286
01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:25,320
Speaker 2: think of them as a very like visually oriented fish.

1287
01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:26,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, but they're always hunting.

1288
01:09:27,120 --> 01:09:28,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's super cool though.

1289
01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:31,320
Speaker 3: Sorry, no great tips for you.

1290
01:09:31,479 --> 01:09:33,759
Speaker 8: Where are we at with the venison hot dog recipe?

1291
01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:35,559
Speaker 8: It's from two fs.

1292
01:09:36,040 --> 01:09:43,320
Speaker 2: We have we have plans ongoing, very promising lead. We're

1293
01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:46,720
Speaker 2: just hoping to get the participation of a man who

1294
01:09:46,800 --> 01:09:50,160
Speaker 2: we believe to be the expert in this, so stay tuned.

1295
01:09:50,680 --> 01:09:55,240
Speaker 2: It's definitely happening. It's just a question of Steven Renoula's schedule.

1296
01:09:55,680 --> 01:09:57,240
Speaker 4: Is the challenge there?

1297
01:09:57,439 --> 01:10:00,759
Speaker 6: Like learning how to like emulsify that stuff.

1298
01:10:01,200 --> 01:10:03,880
Speaker 2: That's that I mean, that's the key step. But the

1299
01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:10,679
Speaker 2: object is to make a hot dog that is tastes

1300
01:10:10,720 --> 01:10:14,599
Speaker 2: the same, has the same crunch, you know, the same

1301
01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:18,480
Speaker 2: the same snappiness. Are we talking like frank.

1302
01:10:18,439 --> 01:10:22,880
Speaker 6: Like so not like an Oscar may or Wiener where

1303
01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:24,479
Speaker 6: there's just like no skin on it.

1304
01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:25,880
Speaker 4: It's gonna have Is it gonna have.

1305
01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:28,400
Speaker 2: Like a yeah, it'll have it'll have a skin on it.

1306
01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:31,200
Speaker 2: It will have a case. But but like you know,

1307
01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:33,920
Speaker 2: it's all about that hot dog. Enthusiasts call it a

1308
01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:37,920
Speaker 2: snap when you break that case and so and then

1309
01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:41,400
Speaker 2: again the emulsification is is really like there's a lot

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01:10:41,439 --> 01:10:43,479
Speaker 2: of people say they make venicson hot dogs and then

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Speaker 2: you get it and it's like a brat with a

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Speaker 2: different spice mix. So we're working towards, uh creating actual

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Speaker 2: like gas station roller dogs out of Venison. Yeah, it's exciting.

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Speaker 8: Stay tuned, Matt asks, did I miss the punt gun

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Speaker 8: content or has it not been made yet? We want

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01:10:59,640 --> 01:11:01,800
Speaker 8: the punt gun. I don't want to speak for the

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Speaker 8: video team, but look for punt gun stuff in a

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Speaker 8: few months.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, forthcoming.

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Speaker 8: It has happened a big release and you won't want

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Speaker 8: to miss it. Someone's asking for quail recipes or hunting

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01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:18,240
Speaker 8: tips scrub Life. Danny got invited to hunt quail for

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Speaker 8: the first time next Monday.

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Speaker 6: Tips, Like, I mean, it's such such a general question.

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01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:28,519
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know if these guys are hunting.

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01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:29,400
Speaker 2: With dogs or.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, go hunt where there's some quail would be my tip.

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Speaker 2: And grill. I mean, I always think about little birds

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01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:38,880
Speaker 2: like that, grilling the hole, keep.

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Speaker 6: The skin on, take the time to pluck them if

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Speaker 6: they're not shot up. I would say, like, if you've

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Speaker 6: got a group of people, you're gonna need two per

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01:11:48,520 --> 01:11:51,240
Speaker 6: for wild quail, you're gonna need at least two per person.

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Speaker 2: Good luck, keep us posted.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, let's do one more here. This is from Chris Locke.

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Speaker 8: He says he's elk hunting season. He hears two hundred

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Speaker 8: to three hundred elk bulls are fighting and bugling. We'll

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01:12:04,439 --> 01:12:07,080
Speaker 8: calling do anything or is it all about spotting stock intercepts?

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Speaker 8: He's hoping hunting an open country with a muzzle loader.

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Speaker 3: Here of two.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I was kind of confessed by that.

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Speaker 1: Corey.

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01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:18,559
Speaker 6: That late season bugling. That ain't that's just them talking

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01:12:18,640 --> 01:12:20,560
Speaker 6: to each other. When they're in these giant herds, like

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01:12:20,600 --> 01:12:22,840
Speaker 6: you're not going to lure a bull in by Colin.

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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, they're always fighting, they're always bugling. That's

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01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:31,280
Speaker 2: not just a rut thing. Colin might do you something, though,

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Speaker 2: I mean.

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Speaker 3: Squeak on a little lost calf, call and see if

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Speaker 3: a cow will come in.

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01:12:36,840 --> 01:12:40,360
Speaker 2: I don't know if you're hunting either sex if you

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01:12:40,439 --> 01:12:43,040
Speaker 2: got to get close open country with the muzzy.

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01:12:43,160 --> 01:12:46,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of belly crawling. I'd imagine best bet

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01:12:46,320 --> 01:12:49,679
Speaker 4: spot in stock though, fill.

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Speaker 3: Is that it?

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Speaker 8: Yeah? Are you sure? Unless you want to keep going there.

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Speaker 8: We're at time. I think I think we've we've given

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Speaker 8: them a.

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Speaker 6: Pretty good We didn't get any reactions on our Academy

1360
01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:01,639
Speaker 6: Award winning efforts.

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Speaker 8: Phil Brody, you got called out specifically. People were not extended.

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Speaker 8: I can find some for you. People were saying, I

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01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:11,360
Speaker 8: didn't know Brody had that heat in him. Bravo expecting

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Speaker 8: that from Brody.

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01:13:12,640 --> 01:13:13,360
Speaker 2: We call that chop.

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01:13:14,200 --> 01:13:17,439
Speaker 8: John says, Bravo, I'm weeping. Brody really showed up. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: Brody was a just sport. I told Randall before this.

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Speaker 8: For the D and D game, you you brought brought

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Speaker 8: it then.

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Speaker 6: To I'm game, Phil, game for whatever. Plus I just

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01:13:31,439 --> 01:13:34,280
Speaker 6: like felt for that fish man because he really got boned.

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Speaker 2: You know. Yeah, I tried to do uh, the most

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01:13:38,920 --> 01:13:41,080
Speaker 2: Dangerous game. You remember that short story.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's a good one.

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01:13:42,680 --> 01:13:45,479
Speaker 2: But then I forgot that the guy. You know, there's

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01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:47,280
Speaker 2: the guy that hunts the people, and then there's the

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Speaker 2: the guy that's going to be hunted, and then there's

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Speaker 2: a third guy. And he's only described as like a big, imposing,

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01:13:55,200 --> 01:13:59,960
Speaker 2: mute character, and so I didn't think it would be fair.

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01:14:00,400 --> 01:14:02,760
Speaker 2: He's like, he makes some the guy one guy makes

1381
01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:05,439
Speaker 2: some comments, like he has his own methods, right, but

1382
01:14:05,560 --> 01:14:07,639
Speaker 2: he's silent the whole time. So it just didn't turn

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01:14:07,720 --> 01:14:09,439
Speaker 2: out well. So I thought just adding the fish to

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01:14:09,479 --> 01:14:11,160
Speaker 2: this would work out the best, and I think.

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Speaker 8: That was a great idea.

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01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:14,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we'll get away. We'll get away from Hemingway

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Speaker 2: at some point, but he's really got a rich library.

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Speaker 2: So as always, we appreciate you, we love you. Thanks

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Speaker 2: for tuning in, Corey Brody, appreciate you guys. Phil, you

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Speaker 2: killed it again today. As always, We'll see you here

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Speaker 2: next Thursday. Meeta to Radio Live, signing off, good night,