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Speaker 1: And now let's get into Oh my voice cracked?

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Speaker 2: Fuck?

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Speaker 1: All right before I die, Let's get into the episode.

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Speaker 2: Hello, Hey, is this the therapy? Get go?

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Speaker 1: Yes, sir? Who is this?

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Speaker 2: Wow? I'm surprised to get on.

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Speaker 1: My name's Chris, Chris honestly, Chris, I don't like you

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Speaker 1: might think I'm fucking with you, and but I dude,

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Speaker 1: you might think I'm fucking with you, But I really

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Speaker 1: believe what I'm about to say. You only said like

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Speaker 1: two you only said two things to me, but I

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Speaker 1: already like your vibe. I'm not like saying this, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: this isn't a this isn't like a bit, just something

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Speaker 1: about it. I'm actually I'm actually having a bit of

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Speaker 1: not I'm not even doing a bit right now. I'm judging.

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Speaker 1: I'm realizing because of the fact that I can tell

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Speaker 1: that I like your vibe after you basically saying nothing

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Speaker 1: just like too like sentences, I can now tell how

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Speaker 1: much of like me people are judging based on like

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Speaker 1: I'm fully realizing how important that like first micro impression is,

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Speaker 1: Like how much information is in that little thing, because

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Speaker 1: I got so much information about you from you just

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Speaker 1: saying is this the therapy? Get go? Oh man, I

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Speaker 1: didn't think I would get on and it was crazy.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people say, and a lot of people

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Speaker 1: say that you're not the first person to say, oh man,

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Speaker 1: is this a therapy? Even the way even like you're

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Speaker 1: not the first person to say, is this a therapy? Gecko?

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Speaker 1: Oh man, I can't believe I got on, But other

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Speaker 1: people I've said that I didn't even clock it. I

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Speaker 2: I'm not.

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Speaker 1: I swear on my life, I swear my children's I don't.

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Speaker 1: I be dead serious right now. Something about the way

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Speaker 1: that you said those two things. I'm getting good vibes

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Speaker 1: from you, and and I even a woo woo way.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know what it is. I'm gonna let you.

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Speaker 2: Talk, yo. Yeah, well cool, cool. I'm glad that you

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Speaker 2: get good vibes from me. I hope that continues throughout

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Speaker 2: this call. Uh yeah, I don't even really know what

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Speaker 2: not very long. Honestly, I've been listening to you for

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Speaker 2: consuming your content like so much over the past months.

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Speaker 2: Just it's like everyone else says, it's like it's really

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Speaker 2: So dude, thank you for putting out good shit.

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Speaker 1: I have two questions First of all, did I sound insane?

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Speaker 2: Just now? Uh? No, you didn't sound insane. I don't

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Speaker 2: I feel like you you kind of I took it

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Speaker 2: and I totally get what you mean by by like

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay. My second question, I'm curious, how did you

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Speaker 2: I saw? I saw a clip on I think it

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Speaker 2: don't know, I really related to you a lot.

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Speaker 1: Cool cool cool. What's your name?

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Speaker 2: My name's Chris, Chris, Chris.

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Speaker 1: Uh, dude, what's up with you? Man? What did you

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Speaker 1: want to talk about today? If anything?

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Speaker 2: Dude, there's so much going on in my life right now,

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Speaker 2: please please? Uh shit, Well, yeah, this is gonna be live.

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Speaker 2: So let's see.

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Speaker 1: Let's start with Let's start with the first thing that

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Speaker 1: comes to your head, and I believe it will naturally

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Speaker 1: guide us towards all of the things that you want

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Speaker 2: Okay, So my wife and I are getting a divorce,

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Speaker 2: and that's uh, that's been kind of like the heaviest

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Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, mm hmmm. How long has that process been

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Speaker 2: It's probably I mean we got separated about, you know,

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Speaker 2: So right now I'm in the process of like finding

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Speaker 1: M So you guys already lived together.

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Speaker 2: We did, Yes, we did live together for uh, I

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Speaker 2: guess like six no, five years?

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Speaker 2: Now? It was it was like, hold on, so math,

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Speaker 2: it's been a long time. Let's just say like seven years. Wow.

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Speaker 1: How many kids do you guys have any kids?

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Speaker 2: No, we don't have any kids. We do have cats, though.

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Speaker 1: You guys got cats? Yeah? How long are you guys together?

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Speaker 2: For? Nine years?

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Speaker 1: Nine years? Okay? How old are you?

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Speaker 2: I'm thirty five?

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Speaker 1: How old is she?

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Speaker 1: So so listen, I mean, listen, Chris, Chris. I from

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Speaker 1: the second you said, is this a therapy? Geo. I

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Speaker 1: never thought I would go on. I was like, I

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Speaker 1: could talk to this guy for three hours. So if

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Speaker 1: you if you want to, I don't know. If you

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Speaker 1: want to, I'm I'm here, I'm down if you want

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Speaker 2: You know, I've talked to so many people about it already.

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Speaker 2: I don't really want to talk a ton about it.

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Speaker 2: We might get into it later if that's school. But okay,

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Speaker 2: I want to talk about something else.

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Speaker 1: Well, can I mmm, yeah, well I can? I ask

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Speaker 1: you this? Sure, And just because I'm curious what was

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Speaker 1: I guess that's why I do this show. But I'm

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Speaker 1: also just like I'm curious what it is after five

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Speaker 1: and it just seems like after five years, it's like,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So I'm just I'm just

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Speaker 1: curious from that perspective, like what, sure, what the catalyst was.

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Speaker 2: So I'm I'm generally more like like the avoidant type.

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Speaker 2: I guess she would call it and say, you know,

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Speaker 2: she's more like the anxious you know, like let's figure

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Speaker 2: There was kind of a catalyst. I'll say that, Okay.

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Speaker 2: So I used to drink a lot like heavily, like alcoholically,

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Speaker 2: and that was like eighteen months ago. Well no, wait,

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Speaker 2: But I had recently started going to to you know,

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Speaker 2: was very vocal about like, hey, you're spending way too

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Speaker 2: I wish you would just go back to drinking. You

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Speaker 2: I hated hated living. I mean I didn't show it right,

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Speaker 1: Yeah whoa wow? She really so in a roundabout way,

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, crazy, Like what do you mean by

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Speaker 2: She would say things like, you know, whenever we used

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Speaker 1: Hmm hm. So you said you focus too much on

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Speaker 2: Oh well, she she you know, she she broke it off.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, did you want to stay.

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Speaker 2: No, it's fine. It's totally fine. That's why I'm here.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of just like logistical things. She's you know,

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Speaker 1: She's a lawyer.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, divorce lawyer.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's divorce. The worst lawyer thing she she I

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Speaker 1: Hmm, man.

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Speaker 1: So this has been I suck. I'm sorry, I lose

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Speaker 2: Uh? She separated, she took all her stuff on the

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Speaker 2: It's been like a month and a half.

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Speaker 1: Yep, bro, what's that? What's the month and a half been? Like?

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Speaker 1: What's been going on?

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Speaker 2: Man, it's it's been very raw. It's been like, oh shit,

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Speaker 2: lot of ambiguity. Like it's it's been a very emotional

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Speaker 2: get like these existential crisis is a lot like fuck,

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Speaker 2: what am I going to do? Life is is fleeting,

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Speaker 2: like I don't know.

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Speaker 1: No, I give what you mean, I give what you mean. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Before? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I mean you got, you got, You've been dere together

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Speaker 1: well I guess ship Yeah when you were what twenty five.

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Speaker 2: Uh something like that, twenty six? But yeah, so how

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Speaker 1: You know, yeah, did you know? Did you well? What

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Speaker 1: did you what? I'm sorry, you know that that's what.

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Speaker 2: I know. That That's like how do I say? I mean,

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Speaker 2: it's not giving you a very clear picture of what

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Speaker 2: happened before, right, No?

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Speaker 1: No, no, Well I was gonna ask. Okay, so you

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Speaker 3: What did you?

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Speaker 1: What did you What did you find? What did you discover?

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Speaker 2: Mmmmm, good question. Well, I mean I was, I was

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Speaker 1: You're this guy who kind of just lives?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Bro? Who?

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Speaker 1: Okay, hold on, so no, we're gonna we're gonna do this.

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Speaker 1: What are you sober?

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Speaker 2: Now? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Okay, how long you've been sober?

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Speaker 2: Uh? Let's see, I've been sober for one year, eight

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Speaker 1: Oh that's that's great. That's I literally I could have

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Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no.

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Speaker 1: Oh congrats man, that rocks.

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Speaker 2: Hell yeah, I appreciate it. Thank you for really for.

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Speaker 1: Real, for real, for real, for real.

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Speaker 2: Hmm.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So, as of today, March twenty eighth, two thousand,

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Speaker 2: Some days? Most days? I mean I still do, you know,

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Speaker 2: have hobbies and things like that, like, yeah, I love

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Speaker 2: into this, like she didn't like that I spent time

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Speaker 2: And I would go to it pretty religiously because I

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Speaker 2: spending you're not spending quality time with me, You're not

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Speaker 2: you're not doing whatever. But I would. I would make

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna take you out on a date Friday. Every Friday,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna grow out on a date, like I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: marriage counseling, Like we're gonna spend some quality time sitting

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Speaker 2: don't think that she was. I don't know. She told

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Speaker 2: It was confusing.

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Speaker 2: United States. I'll tell you the state of South Carolina, he.

437
00:25:50,400 --> 00:26:01,119
Speaker 1: Said, in South Carolina. Okay, so the entire are five years.

438
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 1: Did you have any purpose outside of the relationship, Like

439
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,400
Speaker 1: why do you feel so purposeless right now?

440
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:15,359
Speaker 2: Dude? Like, yeah, the relationship, so you know worth there

441
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:22,200
Speaker 2: we talk about like super codependent. You know, I did

442
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:26,399
Speaker 2: put my purpose into the relationship, as like that was

443
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,680
Speaker 2: my purpose, like to try to make her happy, to

444
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 2: do everything in my power to make this woman happy.

445
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I understand that being a driving purpose. And look,

446
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 1: it's not the worst purpose in the world to have,

447
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 1: but it's definitely a purpose you want to have among

448
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:58,159
Speaker 1: other things, sure, you know, did you feel like you

449
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:01,399
Speaker 1: had any purpose outside of that, any purpose about like

450
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:02,919
Speaker 1: just like, oh, I want to make this woman as

451
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 1: happy as possible.

452
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:14,360
Speaker 2: Mmm. I mean I wanted to make enough money to survive.

453
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 2: I wanted to, you know, contribute to my community in

454
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,160
Speaker 2: some ways, like I didn't not other than that though,

455
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,680
Speaker 2: that was my driving one. Like, Okay, I did have

456
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 2: you know, I had a little bit of a goal

457
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 2: to to like work on myself too, in order to

458
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 2: be a better person for her.

459
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,120
Speaker 1: M h Why did you love this woman so much?

460
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 2: Hmm, that's a good question. I mean her and I

461
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 2: just just kind of really kicked it off. She she

462
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 2: was a really she is a really wonderful person when

463
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 2: she's not angry. Uh, she's she's she's very sweet. We

464
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 2: have a lot of inside jokes. She loves her animals,

465
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:18,440
Speaker 2: she's attractive, she's it's wanted to be around. Yep. I

466
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 2: wanted to build a life where they're like, I don't know, Yeah,

467
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 2: I hope hopefully the vibe is still good. I don't

468
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 2: want to I don't want it to you.

469
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, I take back nothing I said at the beginning

470
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 1: of this call, Chris, I take back nothing I said

471
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 1: at the beginning of this call. Don't you even think

472
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 1: for a second that I do M No, I'm I'm

473
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 1: in uh, I'm in ponderance over your life. Hm hm hmm. Okay,

474
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 1: So now you're like, what the fuck do I do?

475
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 2: Yep?

476
00:28:57,840 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 3: How do you?

477
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 1: How do you make money? Right now? How do you

478
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 1: make money?

479
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 2: So? I have three jobs right now. I I don't

480
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 2: want it to say too much, but like I work,

481
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 2: I work for Mlissy, I have. I still have that

482
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 2: business I have. I'm working for a startup and I

483
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 2: work for the government.

484
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 1: Oh shit, you really do have three jobs?

485
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 2: Yeah?

486
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 1: How do you have time to do anything?

487
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 2: I just that's all I do is work basically and

488
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 2: listen to you. But I still I still make time

489
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 2: for hobbies. Like my week's pretty full. I'll say that.

490
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 1: Okay, what do you do? You do you have any friends?

491
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, I have? I have a very Like my

492
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 2: friends are my family, Like I don't, I don't connect them. Yeah,

493
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 2: like the that group, that hobby group, what that hobby

494
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 2: that I do. It's like it's that those people are

495
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 2: are my family. And you know, people in recovery are

496
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 2: also my family. So it's super nice to have those

497
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 2: people around. I don't know how what I would do

498
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 2: without them.

499
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 1: So you've been with this woman for nine years, right,

500
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 1: and then if throughout those nine years, have any of

501
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:25,959
Speaker 1: your friends like been in contact, like like have your

502
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 1: do your friends know this lady?

503
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 2: So before before I got like sober, I didn't have

504
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 2: only had one friend, and that was the friend that

505
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 2: I had from middle school, which was oh yeah, so

506
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 2: I didn't have any.

507
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 1: You didn't have any friends before you got sober?

508
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 2: No? No, oh okay, she was my primary social circle.

509
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, damn. So she was your

510
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 1: primary social circle from the ages of twenty from essentially

511
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 1: the ages of like twenty four to thirty four or

512
00:30:58,200 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 1: or something like that. So the my map is like,

513
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 1: but like about a decade, let's call it about a

514
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 1: decade she was your primary social circle, right right? Yeah

515
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 1: that's tough. Yeah yeah yeah.

516
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 2: But now I'm like in really developing those those bonds again,

517
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 2: which again, well I don't know if I ever really

518
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 2: had them, but like, it's it's nice to to go

519
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 2: out and like be with people, just be around people,

520
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 2: even if I don't really think they I'll connect with them.

521
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 2: On a certain level. But I'm kind of like background

522
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 2: character sometimes, which is fine, Like that's like I just

523
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 2: kind of hang out and I get to know these

524
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 2: people and be with these people. It's great.

525
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 1: Being out and around people is the only thing. I mean,

526
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 1: not everyone likes doing it, but to me, it's like

527
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 1: the the To me, the added of for depression is

528
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 1: just like being out of your house and in the

529
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 1: universe as much as possible, you know, right, Depression, depression

530
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 1: and existentialism really really they come to me lay it

531
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 1: at night and in times where I'm like not doing anything.

532
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 1: And I posted this video about like existential depression about

533
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 1: a little less of a year ago, and someone made

534
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 1: a comment on it. They were like, the opposite of

535
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 1: depression is expression, and I was like, that's fucking genius.

536
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 1: That's genius. And so I kind of have been kind

537
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 1: of since then, like I mean, I mean, this is always,

538
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:24,719
Speaker 1: this has been a constant of my life, but I've

539
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 1: been it's been a little more pointed since then. I'm

540
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,719
Speaker 1: just like, oh, the antidote for like existentialism and depression

541
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 1: is too just like how can I be of the

542
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 1: universe as much as possible? You know, Like I could

543
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 1: be around people doing things like like on missions. My

544
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 1: mind demanded somewhere shit like that. So you know, I

545
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 1: mean it sounds like this relationship, although it was nice,

546
00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 1: it sounds like it kind of kept you from being

547
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 1: of the universe for a for the better part of

548
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 1: a decade. Is that accurate?

549
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's so profound. That's so profound. I love that. Yeah.

550
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, yes, it's it's very true. I get it.

551
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 2: My I was a part of it in a very

552
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 2: in a very contained sense.

553
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 1: Exactly, Yes, a very contained sense, uh, which is which

554
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 1: is fine. I mean that container, there's a lot of

555
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 1: joy in that container. People find a lot of joy

556
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 1: in that container. I think there's a lot of joy

557
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 1: to be found in that container. There's a listen, dude. Also,

558
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 1: by the by the way, the thing about that container, right,

559
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 1: this this thing about like you have your friends and

560
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 1: you have your people, but you feel like a background character.

561
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 1: There's there's a lot of trade offs. And I'll explain

562
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 1: this of like, you know, you can go out right

563
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 1: and you can be a part of a big community

564
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 1: and you can be valued in that community, and you

565
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 1: can be uh really helpful in that community. And those

566
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 1: people can feel like your family and all that stuff.

567
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 1: I don't know if you feel this way, but this

568
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 1: is the way I kind of feel, where it's like

569
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 1: like there's there can there can be, there can be

570
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 1: there can be like people who are like around you

571
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 1: in life. But there's a difference between that and like

572
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 1: people who are like in your life, you know what

573
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 1: I mean? And that quick because you go to you cause,

574
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 1: you go to the rock climbing gym, or you go

575
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 1: to the comedy open mic, or you go to the whatever,

576
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 1: and you have a good time with everyone. But at

577
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 1: the end of the day, everyone goes home, at the

578
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 1: very end of the day, at the very end of

579
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 1: the day, everyone goes home to their own little container,

580
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 1: and you want to have a quality container. Still, I

581
00:34:55,280 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 1: wouldn't completely neglect the value of the content, but I

582
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 1: think a real at least to me, a real quality

583
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 1: life is about like, Okay, if you spend too much

584
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 1: time in that container, and that container is your entire universe,

585
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 1: then uh, you know, if you get divorced or or

586
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 1: even if you don't, you just you just kind of

587
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 1: find yourself confined to that container. And then if you're

588
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 1: in the universe that's really great. If I had to

589
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 1: pick between one hundred percent in the universe or one

590
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:29,760
Speaker 1: hundred percent the container, I'm picking one hundredercent in the universe.

591
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:31,800
Speaker 1: If you're in the universe, that's great. The universe is

592
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 1: a great place to be. But you might find depending

593
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 1: on the kind of person you are, if you're of

594
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 1: the universe, uh, indefinitely you you kind of that's how

595
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 1: that's how you wind up going back to your container

596
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 1: being like, Oh, I'm kind of fucking lonely. Like everyone

597
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 1: else has their lives and I get to interact with

598
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 1: other people my life, and these are the people's lives,

599
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 1: like they're they're rubbing up against each other, and that's

600
00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 1: nice and that's great, but like, who's really at the

601
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 1: end of the day, who's really who's really in my life,

602
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 1: who's really in my day to day decisions and in

603
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:13,320
Speaker 1: my day to day existence, and like, you know, fucking

604
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:16,879
Speaker 1: sharing a life with him, you know. And I think

605
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:21,919
Speaker 1: it's important to have people who are really in your life,

606
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 1: but also important to balance that with like being of

607
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 1: the universe. So it's a tricky it's a tricky balance

608
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 1: to have. It sounds like you were a little bit

609
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:38,320
Speaker 1: more in your container for the better part of a decade,

610
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,320
Speaker 1: and now you're learning how to be more of the universe.

611
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 1: But this is good. It sounds like this is a

612
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 1: good thing. Actually, it sounds like this is a good thing.

613
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 1: This is a good development for you in some way.

614
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 2: I think so, I think, you know, I think so,

615
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 2: Like when very first, I mean, it's it's still kind

616
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 2: of it's still it's still very fresh, but like, ultimately,

617
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 2: you know, it's it's a good change, because yeah, like

618
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 2: branching out being of the universes is ultimately better than

619
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 2: being in like a super you know, codependent uh potentially

620
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 2: like negative container. Like yeah, yeah, I don't really know

621
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 2: what to say.

622
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 1: So well, let me ask you this. We've been talking

623
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 1: for about thirty five minutes. I know you said there

624
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 1: was a lot of different things you wanted to talk about.

625
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 1: The divorce was only one of them. Was there anything else?

626
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:41,800
Speaker 2: Yeah? So I'll talk about like there's a so that

627
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 2: the hobby that I'll talk about that of it a

628
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 2: little bit if that's cool?

629
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:45,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, what is it?

630
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 2: Sure? So the hobby that I recently picked up by

631
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 2: a year ago is foam fighting, like with foam.

632
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 1: So oh, you're a fucking larfer. Dude, You're a larfer.

633
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:56,439
Speaker 2: Fuck.

634
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, that's awesome. That's so cool.

635
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 2: I am dude. I've just I fucking love it. Like

636
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 2: it's it's not like so the one that I play,

637
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 2: it's not you're not like role playing per se, but

638
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 2: you are like using foam swords and foam shields. It's

639
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 2: like almost like a martial art. Uh. And it sounds

640
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 2: very nerdy, but like it's so much, it has so

641
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 2: many buffs, so it's like, uh, it's it's outside. You're socializing,

642
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 2: you're getting better at something. You're like learning different maneuvers

643
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 2: to like out smart your opponent. Uh. I just I've

644
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 2: been really on this kick lately and I fucking love it.

645
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 2: It's called Bella Gars. Yeah, Bella b E L E

646
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 2: g A r th.

647
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 1: H Mmm. Have you met a lot of friends doing this?

648
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, I've met a lot of really good people.

649
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 2: Like the communities and belly Art are super welcoming, especially

650
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,360
Speaker 2: the one that I've I've recently become a part of.

651
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 2: Like like I said, they they are essentially like family.

652
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 2: Like everyone's super cool, Like everyone's super like wanting to

653
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 2: YouTube to improve and just we hang out outside of

654
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:25,839
Speaker 2: outside of the group. I mean, it's been super super nice.

655
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 2: Uh so yeah, and it makes me it it taps

656
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 2: into that that part of me that like, I don't know,

657
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 2: I used to play a lot of like Skyrim and

658
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,360
Speaker 2: like Elder Scrolls and like role playing games, and I

659
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 2: actually had to do it outside with people. Cool, and

660
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:47,320
Speaker 2: you know, it's it's really cool. It's really fun events

661
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 2: that happened. I've been doing it for for for for

662
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:52,839
Speaker 2: ten months now.

663
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 1: Okay. Cool, Okay, so you must have acted, you must

664
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:57,280
Speaker 1: have made some like actual friends.

665
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:00,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's an definitely.

666
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 1: Okay, let's get into this real quick because I actually

667
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 1: have some thoughts about this. You say that you're a

668
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 1: background character, right, you don't feel like you're really like Okay,

669
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 1: there's clear solutions to this. Okay, First of all, how

670
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 1: do you feel about your status as a background character?

671
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:20,319
Speaker 1: Would you like to be less of a background character?

672
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 2: You know, I feel like subtly like I'm moving from

673
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 2: the background character to becoming more of like I don't

674
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 2: want to say main character, but like a like an extra.

675
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 1: Here's what you gotta do, Here's what you gotta do. Yeah,

676
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 1: here's what you gotta do you have to start the key?

677
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 1: I learned this a long time ago. The key to

678
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,919
Speaker 1: in any scene you're in a scene, right, The key

679
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:50,760
Speaker 1: in any scene if you are feeling like a background

680
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 1: character is you must add value to the scene. Right.

681
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 1: So well, I learned to this a long time ago.

682
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 1: When I was in college. I had two things. I

683
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 1: still love these things, but you know, I was doing

684
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 1: a lot of stand up comedy, and I was doing

685
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 1: like Super Smash Brothers tournaments. And I would show up

686
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 1: at these open mics. And I would show up at

687
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 1: these tournaments and like, I would know people there, and

688
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 1: I would have fun and I would make some friends.

689
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 1: But I again, you feel a little bit like a

690
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:23,320
Speaker 1: background character. And it wasn't until I started putting on

691
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,760
Speaker 1: the shows and the open mics, or I started putting

692
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 1: on the tournaments that I went from a background character

693
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 1: to really being a part of the scene. So that's

694
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 1: the key in any scene. And it's not, by the way,

695
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 1: this is not like a transactional thing. It's just like

696
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 1: you know, you you you gotta you gotta host the party.

697
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You gotta have everyone in

698
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 1: your backyard to fucking hit each other. With swords or whatever,

699
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 1: because they're like, oh shit, this is this is you know,

700
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 1: this is Chris's backyard. They start to recognize you because

701
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 1: you've added some form of value to the scene. You

702
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 1: now become a part. You now go from like kind

703
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 1: of a a consumer of the scene to a contributor

704
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,919
Speaker 1: of it. And that is what really kind of makes

705
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 1: you a bit, you know, a pillar of this community.

706
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 1: So so if I were you, if I if I

707
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 1: wanted to to find a way to elevate myself from

708
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 1: just a background character to really feeling like, uh uh,

709
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 1: these people are like in this community is like kind

710
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 1: of part of my my ship, I would start putting

711
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 1: on events or just figuring out how you can contribute. Right,

712
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 1: you just have to contribute. You get a contribute. You

713
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 1: can't it's not a it's not enough to just show

714
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 1: up consistently. You can show up consistently, be usefully be

715
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,319
Speaker 1: a background character. Where it's once you start to contribute

716
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 1: is when you elevate yourself from background character to like,

717
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 1: oh I'm a cornerstone of the uh fucking South Carolina

718
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 1: larp scene. So that's that's my.

719
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 2: That that helps that helpful lot. Yeah, like I will

720
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 2: I will start, like because so there's a lot of

721
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:04,320
Speaker 2: volunteer opportunities in it too, So maybe I'll start like

722
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:07,879
Speaker 2: volunteering some more in the games and stuff. So that's

723
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:11,320
Speaker 2: that's actually a really good idea. Yeah, when you say it,

724
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 2: when you say when you say put on put on stuff,

725
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 2: like you said open mic and uh super Smash Brothers.

726
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 2: Like so did you did you like say, hey, everybody,

727
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 2: come to my house, We're going to play Smash or

728
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 2: did you like put on the show? Like what what

729
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 2: was that process like for you?

730
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:31,839
Speaker 1: Well, it's I mean it's easy because, like in anything,

731
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 1: there's always more people that want to participate in the

732
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 1: thing than than want to put it on, right sure,

733
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 1: like like like I mean I'll use those twos. I'll

734
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 1: use comedy, and I'll use uh uh, I'll use I'll

735
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 1: use Smash Bros. It's like there's way more like players

736
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:55,799
Speaker 1: than there are tournament organizers. There's way more comedians than

737
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:59,360
Speaker 1: there are people putting on the open mics. So in

738
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 1: any there's always going to be like more people who

739
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 1: want to attend events than there are events.

740
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 2: That makes sense.

741
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:14,479
Speaker 1: So all you so just like do like like listen

742
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 1: you the all these like all these people, all these

743
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 1: LARPer people, Like they're gonna want fucking more opportunities to

744
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 1: do their thing. So if you give them more opportunities

745
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:29,880
Speaker 1: to do their thing, you start becoming an important part

746
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,799
Speaker 1: of the community. So it's like it's very much if

747
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 1: you build it, they will come type of thing. Yeah,

748
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 1: so you still got to start of some way, you know.

749
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I will. I will say. I will say

750
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,240
Speaker 2: last night that I did. So there's a a discord

751
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,319
Speaker 2: and I posted like, Hey, it's kind of like, it's

752
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 2: funny because you mentioned that, because like this is kind

753
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 2: of a this is kind of a crossover to what

754
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 2: you were saying, is that last night I posted something

755
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 2: in the discord. I was like, hey, who wants to

756
00:44:57,120 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 2: go to this improv show? And that was like kind

757
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,720
Speaker 2: of outside of my comfort zone because I'm planning something.

758
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 1: Oh, you gotta plan the thing. You gotta plan the thing,

759
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 1: get that get it, get that ship deep into your

760
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:12,879
Speaker 1: comfort zone. You gotta plan the thing. That's the key

761
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,399
Speaker 1: to life. You gotta the key. You gotta host the party.

762
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:16,879
Speaker 1: It's the key to life, I swear to God.

763
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 2: So I did that and I went with a friend

764
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 2: of mine. It was just one guy, but like we

765
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 2: still had a really good time. It talked about life

766
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 2: and ship with him. It was great. So that was

767
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:29,919
Speaker 2: just like one, it's funny that you mentioned that because

768
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:32,479
Speaker 2: I am on that path. I just have to start

769
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:37,319
Speaker 2: doing shit Moore. But I like that advice. Thank you, Chris.

770
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 1: Yes, I still think you're a good dude. I like

771
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:46,320
Speaker 1: talking to you. I'm I'm hopeful. I'm hopeful for you

772
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 1: in this crazy Yeah, don't get just just like listen, man,

773
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 1: don't like next time, next time you start feeling all

774
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 1: existential and crazy, just be like, I gotta, I gotta,

775
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 1: I gotta put something on. I gotta, I gotta invite

776
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 1: everyone to the improv show. I gotta do what I

777
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 1: just start. You just got to do things as the

778
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 1: only kid. That's the only answer I have to any

779
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:10,320
Speaker 1: existential bullshit is just you know, be of the universe

780
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 1: in the best way you can.

781
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:15,399
Speaker 2: Yeah. I just want to say, like I really love

782
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 2: what you're doing with this this podcast, and like thanks.

783
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 2: Like I said, I'm not really like a super longtime listener,

784
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 2: but probably will be going forward because thanks. Man. It

785
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 2: this ship is, this ship is really like hitting for me.

786
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 2: So like I love what you're doing. You're doing a

787
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:33,319
Speaker 2: great job. So I just wanted to say that. Now.

788
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 1: I'm glad that it's cool that more people I thought

789
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 1: I thought that I kind of thought that this podcast

790
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 1: was like, all right, everyone who has found it has

791
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 1: already everyone who is going to find it has already

792
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 1: found it. So I'm glad to hear that new people

793
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:47,839
Speaker 1: are finding it. I gotta I'm gonna start posting more

794
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 1: Instagram clips now because of you sweat, Chris, Is there

795
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 1: anything else you want to say to the people of

796
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 1: the computer before we go?

797
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 2: Hmmm? I would just say, you know, keep your head up.

798
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 2: Things get better, everything passes, Everything's transient, but everything. Just

799
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 2: enjoy what you have today. Just enjoy what you have today.

800
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 2: That's why I leave people with the computer.

801
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 1: Thank you, Chris. You have a good rest of the night.

802
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:17,879
Speaker 1: Get blessed brother, Gat blessed brother.

803
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 2: Bye.

804
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 1: See Chris, I'm telling you it's just two he said

805
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 1: two things. He said, is this really the Gecko? And

806
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 1: then he said nice. Actually I forget the two things

807
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 1: he said, but I could tell I could tell you

808
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:37,280
Speaker 1: good vibes.

809
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:43,479
Speaker 2: Hello, Hi, how you doing, Lyle?

810
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 1: I'm doing good? Brother. What's your name?

811
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 2: Tell yeah, my name is Finn. Dude. Holy shit, so

812
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 2: good to be joking you.

813
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:56,959
Speaker 1: Man, Finn. What's going on with you? Good? Good, sir, Finn.

814
00:47:57,120 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 2: Not much. I'm I'm a stuff lifesaver done here in Australia.

815
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 2: I just had a patrol shift. So I'm sitting here

816
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 2: with my girlfriend doing some university work. We're both self

817
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:11,800
Speaker 2: life savers and yeah, kicking back.

818
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 1: Man, beautiful beautiful you said you're both life savers. Is

819
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:16,799
Speaker 1: that what it's called?

820
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 2: Uh? Yeah, Well, basically the guys that hang out on

821
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 2: the beach and like makes it all on drowns or

822
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:24,799
Speaker 2: like pull people out of the water off.

823
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 1: That it's oh wait, in Australia they call a lifeguard

824
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 1: a lifesaver.

825
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's like surf lifesaver. So you're the you're

826
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 2: the guys and the stuff out on the boards, like

827
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 2: I'm in the boats and shit like that.

828
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 1: Wow, that's a lot more. Uh what's the word for it, Godly,

829
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know what to say, Like

830
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 1: this is a difference between you like you guard because

831
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 1: you know what, Actually, here's what I'll say, a lifesaver.

832
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:53,800
Speaker 1: It kind of implies that like something inevitable will happen,

833
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.

834
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, hey, dude, it's Australia, Like you got

835
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:01,239
Speaker 2: the shocks, the snakes, the fucking everything. That's again. Yeah,

836
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 2: it's like that's the implication.

837
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, because if you're guarding a life, you're like, we

838
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:09,240
Speaker 1: are the life guards. It's like, hey, we're just making

839
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 1: It's like we're just making sure that nothing bad happens.

840
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 1: But if we're if you're a life saver, it's like, hey,

841
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 1: something's going to happen, but when it does, we'll be

842
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:22,399
Speaker 1: there to save your life.

843
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're ready to step in. Holy shit, man, hey, gek,

844
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 2: what's you? I noticed Like obviously you're asking the questions

845
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:32,359
Speaker 2: a lot, it's your show, but like, what's going brings

846
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 2: you joy? Like decides doing this sort of stuff? What

847
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 2: what's sparks joy for you?

848
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:45,279
Speaker 1: What sparks joy for me? I don't have a good

849
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 1: answer to that question.

850
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 2: Man.

851
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 1: I mean the sun. I like the sun. I like working.

852
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:55,800
Speaker 2: Honestly, fair as fuck. Yeah, getting out gonna be like

853
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:57,880
Speaker 2: vitamin D. We're just going into winter down here, so

854
00:49:57,960 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 2: you guys are gonna be going into summer pretty soon.

855
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:03,439
Speaker 2: Get from some nicer weather or park weather.

856
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:07,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was in Australia like three years ago and

857
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:11,359
Speaker 1: there was it was winter time. But anyway, listen, fit

858
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:13,279
Speaker 1: enough with a small talk. What's up man? Would you

859
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 1: want to talk about?

860
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:19,319
Speaker 2: I kind of want to talk about what I'm doing

861
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 2: at the moment. I've just kind of made like a

862
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:25,720
Speaker 2: bit of a career not career shift, but for reference,

863
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 2: I'm studying engineering at UNI, so I'm in my fourth year,

864
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 2: so like coming to the sort of back end of

865
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:36,439
Speaker 2: the degree. In the last like two and a half years,

866
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 2: I've been working at a startup with a friend and

867
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 2: I have just left that to pursue my own sort

868
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:45,400
Speaker 2: of little startup situation.

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Speaker 4: Please please please, please please please please please please please.

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Speaker 1: Tell me it's not like a dumb, bullshit AI startup

871
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 1: that is just a thing the chat CHPC already does.

872
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 2: No, no, not at all, and like do trust me,

873
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 2: because like we go through with Whilst I was working

874
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 2: at the other startup, we're doing like a lot of

875
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 2: pitch competitions. So it was like would be sat there

876
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 2: with other people who were trying to get like grant

877
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 2: money all that sort of stuff, and dude, ninety five

878
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:24,880
Speaker 2: percent of it was just like you know, this this apple,

879
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 2: this thing that you like, what if it was AI.

880
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:29,359
Speaker 2: Believe it or not, it's so dumb AI as well.

881
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 1: It's so dumb.

882
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 2: It's it's very like dot com bubble, like just kind

883
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 2: of throwing throwing it on there because it's what's popular. No,

884
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 2: the previous startup I was working at, it was actually

885
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 2: really really cool. They used algae to like fix up wastewater.

886
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:47,840
Speaker 2: Oh I like that.

887
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 1: Okay, that's real.

888
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, a real, real, actual, honest to god thing.

889
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 2: But yeah, that was pretty cool. And now I'm working

890
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 2: on one of my own things, keeping like putting a

891
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:03,360
Speaker 2: little sensors and shit in the ocean and checking on

892
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 2: and like environmental data in the sea.

893
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:06,800
Speaker 1: Dude.

894
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 4: Cool.

895
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:08,440
Speaker 1: Okay, so that's your startup?

896
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean I don't know. I'm like very

897
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 2: very ocean coded. I love like diving, spearfishing, snorkeling, all

898
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 2: that sort of business, So like, I don't know, I

899
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:22,879
Speaker 2: want to kind of set myself up to be working

900
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 2: in that industry I once I graduate.

901
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:28,719
Speaker 1: Dude. Cool, No, dude, whenever I hear startup, I just

902
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 1: immediately think, like some bullshit AI app that like the

903
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 1: world does not even remotely need at all.

904
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, just like up the up the global water consumption

905
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:43,759
Speaker 2: a little bit more. Talk to your AI alarm clock

906
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 2: as you wake up. That's that's good for everyone.

907
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:48,360
Speaker 1: Really, Okay, So what do you like about the ocean?

908
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 2: Dude? It's just so fucking good man. Like, I'm I'm

909
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 2: obviously very biased because it's like Australia, We've got like

910
00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 2: some of the best beaches in the world, But I

911
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 2: feel more comfortable underwater than they do out of water,

912
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 2: you know, Like it's a it's a really like, I

913
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 2: don't know, kind of primal, just like incredibly present feeling

914
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:14,239
Speaker 2: that I only really get when I'm like gone for

915
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 2: a dive.

916
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 1: Mmmm, where so you dive?

917
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I've done like scuba. I do a

918
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 2: lot of snorkeling. I do a lot of spearfishing with

919
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 2: some of my friends.

920
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:32,359
Speaker 1: But yeah, cool, cool, And Australia is known for having

921
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:35,479
Speaker 1: pretty fucked up creatures. Are there a lot of fucked

922
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 1: up creatures under the sea.

923
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 2: There There are a lot of fucked up creatures, but

924
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:42,359
Speaker 2: they're the cool ones, man, Like the ones that are

925
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:46,320
Speaker 2: super venomous and like kind of crazier, the coolest, weirdest

926
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:48,919
Speaker 2: little ones, like like we've got do you know about

927
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 2: the blue ring octopus?

928
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:52,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know about the blue ring octopus. There's like

929
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:54,719
Speaker 1: that video of a lady holding it and she has

930
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 1: no idea that it's like the most poisonous thing on

931
00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:57,280
Speaker 1: the universe.

932
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:01,479
Speaker 2: Yeah. They've got like the kind of colored like those

933
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:05,360
Speaker 2: little like highlighter pens that you've got in school, and

934
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 2: they're like tiny and look really really cute and are

935
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 2: like fluorescent like a glow stick. So little kids will

936
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 2: be like, oh, this is fucking sick. Let me pick

937
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 2: this up and then just fucking straight up die. They're like,

938
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 2: it's crazy venomous.

939
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 1: Whoa are they common? Uh?

940
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 2: Not like super common, but there's enough of like a

941
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 2: spread between like another fish that just looks like a

942
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:30,920
Speaker 2: rock and is also incredibly poisonous and it just sits

943
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 2: still and then if people step on it, it fucking

944
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 2: stabs them and then they die. It's crazy, dude.

945
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 1: Do you know anyone that's been killed by any Australian animals?

946
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:45,879
Speaker 2: Not killed, But I've had like friends that have I've

947
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:48,920
Speaker 2: got a mate that's got like a pretty solid at

948
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:51,839
Speaker 2: like anti venom tolerance, because growing up you just got

949
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 2: bit by like a lot of snakes and so would

950
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:58,719
Speaker 2: just kind of is naturally immune and kind of just

951
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 2: fucks around with snakes a running too them, like out

952
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:01,720
Speaker 2: out bush?

953
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:05,320
Speaker 1: Oh wow, how often do you go out the bush?

954
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:11,240
Speaker 2: Dude? As much as I can. I'm like, I'm twenty

955
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 2: two of like just only had a cough of lost

956
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:17,840
Speaker 2: like yearish, but have gone on like heaps of camping

957
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 2: trips and like full wheel drive trips. It's like, know,

958
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:21,320
Speaker 2: it makes me very very happy.

959
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:23,720
Speaker 1: Cool man cool.

960
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 2: Also, my girlfriend is here and she also listens to

961
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 2: the podcast. I want to say high quickly. One think

962
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:33,840
Speaker 2: I'll put you on. Hi. I'm a big fun and

963
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:35,800
Speaker 2: I was not expecting him to actually put me on.

964
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:38,879
Speaker 1: Oh hi, Well, what's going on in your life? What's

965
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 1: happening with you?

966
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:42,279
Speaker 2: Are you? Do you? Are you? Like?

967
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 1: Are you a pilot? I'd like to think you're a pilot,

968
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 1: maybe because one does one covers the ocean, the other

969
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 1: covers the sky. That could be nice.

970
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:53,839
Speaker 2: Oh that would be so poetic. Yeah, oh I should

971
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:58,360
Speaker 2: have been a pilot. No, I'm also an engineer.

972
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 1: Oh okay, that's still real. At least you're not yeah,

973
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 1: using AI to kill dogs or whatever they do.

974
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 2: No plans on killing dogs yet, but i'll lend you

975
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:14,800
Speaker 2: back here. You get.

976
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:17,359
Speaker 1: What's your name against Finn?

977
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I always remembered it.

978
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, I did remember Finn. Well, Finn, listen. It

979
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:25,920
Speaker 1: was nice having a nice little chat with you. Is

980
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:28,880
Speaker 1: there anything else that you wanted to say to the

981
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:29,840
Speaker 1: folks before we go?

982
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:33,919
Speaker 2: Yeah? You know, I mean I've listened to the pod

983
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:36,320
Speaker 2: quite a bit, and I always I've always thought of like,

984
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:37,960
Speaker 2: what would I say if I did manage to get

985
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 2: on and have the little like what i'd say to

986
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:43,279
Speaker 2: the people in the computer. And there's a quote that

987
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:46,719
Speaker 2: one of my friends has misattributed to our friend group

988
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:50,279
Speaker 2: has misattributed to one of our friends Grandpas. But it's

989
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:54,280
Speaker 2: something that I really love as kind of a compass

990
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:57,680
Speaker 2: towards like how you should spend your time. And the

991
00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 2: quote is the tools should feel light in your hands,

992
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 2: so that being like it shouldn't feel like a chore

993
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:05,880
Speaker 2: to kind of use the tools of your trade.

994
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 1: I think that's a good way to be. I agree

995
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:10,320
Speaker 1: with that.

996
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:13,920
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, man, dude, love the podcast. You're doing amazing

997
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:17,680
Speaker 2: stuff and keep it up. Come much to Australia, man,

998
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 2: when you come back.

999
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:21,280
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know. Man, I I don't

1000
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:22,920
Speaker 1: I don't know if we'll ever come back to Australia.

1001
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 1: We'll see, we'll see how this will see how my

1002
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 1: US We'll see If my US tour does well, then

1003
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:30,080
Speaker 1: we'll we'll go back to Australia. I gotta see what

1004
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:32,920
Speaker 1: we do in the US. So so tell the people

1005
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 1: to go. Tell the people to buy tickets at therapy

1006
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 1: get go tour dot com. And if we can sell

1007
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 1: in the.

1008
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 2: US, subscribe. Make sure you've got notifications enabled to thank

1009
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:46,920
Speaker 2: you when your city or town is coming up. Thanks

1010
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 2: lovely chatting to you mate.

1011
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 1: Have a good night, man, take care great see if

1012
00:57:57,160 --> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 1: what's up, folks, it's Lyle. I am here to end

1013
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 1: the episode with. Yes, that's right, you guessed it. A

1014
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 1: piece of gek mail. Gak mail is mail that people

1015
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 1: send me to the email address therapy geckomail at gmail

1016
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 1: dot com. It's a mail that people send me to

1017
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 1: the email address Therapy gecko mail at gmail dot com.

1018
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:28,960
Speaker 1: And uh, I read it. I read the mail, I

1019
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:33,480
Speaker 1: ponder the mail. I become the mail in some ways,

1020
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:37,040
Speaker 1: you could say. And so that's how I like to

1021
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 1: do the show. I like to end it by reading

1022
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:43,160
Speaker 1: a piece or two of viewer mail. So let's do that,

1023
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:52,960
Speaker 1: guys down, let's do that all right. This is from Celeste,

1024
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:58,800
Speaker 1: subject line, I am on a new journey. Hello, Lyle.

1025
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 1: So much has happened, and in the last couple of

1026
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:04,200
Speaker 1: months I thought I would share. I recently broke up

1027
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 1: with my boyfriend right before Christmas because I was at

1028
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:11,000
Speaker 1: my breaking point. I've had this burst of freedom ever

1029
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:13,720
Speaker 1: since then, and it's made me so optimistic about life

1030
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:17,920
Speaker 1: in the world. I can do anything I want. So

1031
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:20,320
Speaker 1: I decided to apply to a cruise line and I

1032
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:23,320
Speaker 1: got the job. I've always wanted to work on one

1033
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 1: and follow in my mother's footsteps. I know it will

1034
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 1: be tough, but I'm excited for the connections I will

1035
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:31,320
Speaker 1: make and the places I will see. I just got

1036
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:34,600
Speaker 1: back from training in Salt Lake City, Mama Mia, I

1037
00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 1: did not like Salt Lake City. No offense to anyone listening.

1038
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:41,240
Speaker 1: I already met a bunch of new people who are

1039
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:44,120
Speaker 1: super cool and keep in touch. I recently found out

1040
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:46,800
Speaker 1: I will be in the New England area, mainly Baltimore

1041
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:49,400
Speaker 1: and Maine, but I am super excited to start next month.

1042
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:51,440
Speaker 1: I know you grew up in the Baltimore area. Do

1043
00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 1: you have any cool recommendations to see around that area?

1044
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:59,680
Speaker 1: Love what you do, never stop being yourself. Toodles recommendations

1045
00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 1: for me Ireland. Uh, there's one place in Baltimore that

1046
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:07,280
Speaker 1: I recommend everyone go to if you're in Baltimore. I

1047
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 1: want to give a shout out to this place. One

1048
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 1: of my favorite art museums in the world. Possibly my

1049
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:14,840
Speaker 1: favorite art museum in the world is I just dropped

1050
01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:17,960
Speaker 1: a bottle cap. I just dropped them. I was fidgeting

1051
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:21,840
Speaker 1: with a bottle cap and I dropped it. Okay, the

1052
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:23,840
Speaker 1: my favorite art museum in the world. It's a place

1053
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:29,400
Speaker 1: called the American Visionary Art Museum in Baltimore, Maryland. Highly

1054
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:32,680
Speaker 1: recommend the American Visionary Art Museum. It's this place where

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01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:36,280
Speaker 1: it's like it's art that's kind of made by like

1056
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:42,120
Speaker 1: vagabonds and like, uh, I don't want to use the

1057
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:46,160
Speaker 1: term vagrants, but like it's you, it's it's it's art

1058
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:50,360
Speaker 1: made by people who are not like classical artists, right,

1059
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:54,120
Speaker 1: Like you go into a regular art museum and like

1060
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:57,480
Speaker 1: all the artists are like professional artists, I guess, and

1061
01:00:57,600 --> 01:01:00,200
Speaker 1: these are all just like folks who kind kind of

1062
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 1: like maybe they they had maybe they you know, started

1063
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:06,400
Speaker 1: making shit when they were like eighty years old and

1064
01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:11,120
Speaker 1: going insane or like, you know, they died in obscurity.

1065
01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:14,439
Speaker 1: And this is like art that was found of theirs later.

1066
01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:16,840
Speaker 1: But it's kind of art that comes from conventional places

1067
01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:19,520
Speaker 1: and it's really like cool and modern and shit. So

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01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 1: I recommend the American Visionary Art Museum. Go get it.

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01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:26,280
Speaker 1: Go go eat a crab. I guess I don't fucking know,

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01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:28,640
Speaker 1: Go to the go to the dinner harbor. I didn't

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01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:33,959
Speaker 1: know that Baltimore is New England, so thanks for letting

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01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:49,760
Speaker 1: me know that. Okay, let's read another email. Let's see here. Okay,

1073
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:55,560
Speaker 1: this is from Kirsten subject Line, child therapist who listens

1074
01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:58,880
Speaker 1: to Gecko therapist. Hey Lyle, I have been on and

1075
01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:02,200
Speaker 1: off listener since twenty t twenty three. I recently started

1076
01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:04,920
Speaker 1: a weekly routine of listening to your podcast on Spotify

1077
01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:07,640
Speaker 1: and it has made me feel less alone in my career.

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Speaker 1: As someone who talks all day, it is quite a

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Speaker 1: lonely profession being a therapist. I am a school based therapist,

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Speaker 1: which means I am contracted through an agency to have

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Speaker 1: therapists with children, to have therapy sessions with children K

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Speaker 1: through twelve during school hours. Wait, that's weird. I've never

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Speaker 1: heard of that before. They just like I didn't know

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Speaker 1: that they hire like free lancers to do this shit.

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Speaker 1: That's weird, right, That's like not normal, isn't the fucking

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Speaker 1: aren't like school therapists typically like school staff. I am

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Speaker 1: not a part of the school staff exactly, so there

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Speaker 1: can be a lot of miscommunication when it comes to

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Speaker 1: school schedules and school politics surrounding when I can see

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Speaker 1: my students and safe places I can actually hold sessions.

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Speaker 1: I have been offered a janitor's closet before, and I

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Speaker 1: had to advocate for an actual room. Hilarious. Typical therapists

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01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:03,720
Speaker 1: keep a case load of fifteen to thirty clients, whereas

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Speaker 1: I have currently fifty three in counting. Shout out to

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Speaker 1: community mental health. It can be lonely due to being

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Speaker 1: an outsider in the school system, but in a way,

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Speaker 1: it is also lonely because of the secondary trauma you

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Speaker 1: carry that no one else can quite understand unless you

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Speaker 1: are a mental health professional. There's more of the email.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, interesting that you can be like a freelance.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know you could be like a freelance therapist.

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Speaker 1: I think that is what has drawn me to the podcast.

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01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:35,080
Speaker 1: As a therapist, you're supposed to lead people to their

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Speaker 1: own conclusions, not offer them advice or tell them straight

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01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:41,880
Speaker 1: up that they are being an ass or who you

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01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:45,840
Speaker 1: think in their life is an ass. This podcast feels

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Speaker 1: like an outlet for me after a hard day. I

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01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:50,440
Speaker 1: don't have the pressure of the person in front of me.

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01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:52,880
Speaker 1: You can say what you actually think without the license,

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Speaker 1: and sometimes the people the problems people talk about on

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01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:58,400
Speaker 1: here feel very relatable to what I'm currently going through.

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Speaker 1: It is nice to take a break think about problems

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Speaker 1: that aren't completely related to children being abused or experiencing

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01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:07,880
Speaker 1: suicidal ideation. I think you're doing a great job offering advice,

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Speaker 1: support and comedic relief. Thanks get K. I appreciate you, k.

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Speaker 2: I.

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Speaker 1: I you know what, Kay, I have to be honest.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you, but I have to I truly you

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Speaker 1: know it's funny. I appreciate you. There's a lot of

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Speaker 1: real therapists who have told me that they listen to

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Speaker 1: the podcast. Although I can't imagine being a real therapist

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Speaker 1: and wanting to listen to this podcast, I really can't.

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Speaker 1: I really, if you're a real therapist out there and

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Speaker 1: you listen to the podcast, I want you to know

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Speaker 1: I deeply appreciate you listening to the podcast, but just

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Speaker 1: for a personal level, I can't imagine, like if you're

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01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:45,120
Speaker 1: like listening to folks' problems all day and then you

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01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:48,680
Speaker 1: want to come home and do it more. I guess

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Speaker 1: it makes sense the way the way that you're talking

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Speaker 1: about it, Kay, is it makes sense being like, oh fuck,

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01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:57,640
Speaker 1: I keep hearing all these people's problems and like, you know, yeah,

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01:04:57,720 --> 01:04:59,400
Speaker 1: you have you like I mean, I'm just like some

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01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:03,320
Speaker 1: fucking ass so I can just like kind of say whatever.

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01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:05,640
Speaker 1: I don't have a license to do this, So I

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01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:09,560
Speaker 1: guess it makes sense if people are talking about their problems,

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01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:12,200
Speaker 1: and then it makes sense they would be cathartic to

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01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:15,160
Speaker 1: hear somebody who doesn't have to abide by any like

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01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:22,040
Speaker 1: actual medical rules give their feedback. So that make that

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01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:24,320
Speaker 1: makes sense. I appreciate you listening, Kay. I'm sorry that

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Speaker 1: they made you have to do a fucking uh.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. So I don't know. Honestly, doing a

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01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:34,400
Speaker 1: therapy session in a janitor's closet sounds like there would

1144
01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:36,400
Speaker 1: be something like there would be something so funny to

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01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:38,280
Speaker 1: me if I was a kid and I had to

1146
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:41,960
Speaker 1: sit with a therapist in a janitor's closet and do

1147
01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:44,880
Speaker 1: a session like I would be amused by that that

1148
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:48,840
Speaker 1: it would it would solve whatever whatever issue I had.

1149
01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:56,800
Speaker 1: Maybe I could fidget with a broom. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for your services or I always appreciate the

1151
01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:02,000
Speaker 1: real thing therapists that talk to me or call into

1152
01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:04,880
Speaker 1: this show they're doing. They're doing actual, real ass work,

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01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:08,840
Speaker 1: so I appreciate I appreciate them. Thank you. Kay, she

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01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:11,480
Speaker 1: was doing more? What more do we have? Do we

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01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:16,920
Speaker 1: have any more? One? Sec Let me see if I

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01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:18,440
Speaker 1: can find a quick one.

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01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:20,000
Speaker 2: Here.

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01:06:33,600 --> 01:06:36,160
Speaker 1: Okay, I've answered this question before, I'll do it again.

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01:06:36,680 --> 01:06:42,000
Speaker 1: Important clarification. This is from Eddie. Eddie says, hello, what

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01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:46,120
Speaker 1: species of gecko are you? Thanks Eddie? What species of

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01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:52,880
Speaker 1: gecko am I? I'm a therapy gecko. I think officially though,

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01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:55,280
Speaker 1: I'm a day gecko because I'm the same kind of

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01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:57,400
Speaker 1: gecko as the Guico gecko, and he's the day gecko.

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01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:01,720
Speaker 1: But I do not sell caring insurance. A lot of

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01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:05,560
Speaker 1: people ask me that, and it was funny. It wasn't

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01:07:05,720 --> 01:07:09,080
Speaker 1: actually even funny the first time. It wasn't fun of

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01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:11,160
Speaker 1: the first time. But you know, it's annoying to me.

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01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:15,880
Speaker 1: I get annoyed at myself for getting annoyed when people

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01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:19,600
Speaker 1: ask me if I sell car insurance, because because you

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01:07:19,840 --> 01:07:24,440
Speaker 1: can't dress up like a gecko and walk around and

1171
01:07:24,640 --> 01:07:28,040
Speaker 1: expect people to not ask you if you sell car insurance.

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01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:30,840
Speaker 1: Like he's just the guy, you know what I mean,

1173
01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:34,640
Speaker 1: Like he's the fucking guy. I don't come anywhere close.

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01:07:35,080 --> 01:07:38,160
Speaker 1: I'm not even like the third or fourth most popular

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Speaker 1: gecko in pop culture. He's the most popular anthropomorphic gecko

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01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:46,480
Speaker 1: in the world, not even close to anyone else. So

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Speaker 1: you can't reasonably expect to be able to walk around

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Speaker 1: in a gecko costume and not have people ask you

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Speaker 1: if you sell car insurance. So when that happens to

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Speaker 1: me and I get annoyed, I get double annoyed because

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01:07:56,680 --> 01:08:00,120
Speaker 1: I'm like, I have no business being annoyed by this

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01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:04,280
Speaker 1: thing that I signed up. I signed up to have

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01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:06,920
Speaker 1: people ask me if I sell car insurance, So I

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01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:11,600
Speaker 1: don't mind. Okay, anyway, folks, thank you very much for listening.

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Speaker 1: Before we go, I want to remind everyone that I

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Speaker 1: am releasing bonus episodes of this podcast over on Patreon

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01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:27,360
Speaker 1: dot com slash lyle forever. You can also find the

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01:08:27,439 --> 01:08:30,920
Speaker 1: link in the episode description that's bonus episodes. I put

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Speaker 1: out two bonus episodes a month, and you can also

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Speaker 1: get access to a Spotify feed. What you do is

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Speaker 1: you link your Patreon with your Spotify page and you

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Speaker 1: Goo podcast ad free. Yes, that's right, no more ads

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Speaker 1: interrupting the podcast. For just six dollars a month. You

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Speaker 1: get two bonus episodes a month. And I also have

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Speaker 1: up there you know, as you guys know, I went

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Speaker 1: to Tijuana, I went to the gathering of the Juggalos,

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Speaker 1: I went to Iraq. I'm posting my video soon from

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Speaker 1: travel videos also on that Patreon Patreon dot com, slash

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Speaker 1: if you were listening to the bonus episodes on Supercast,

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Speaker 1: you are entitled. You can check your email. You are

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Speaker 1: entitled to a free month of Patreon. I am no

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Speaker 1: longer on Supercast. I am doing all of my bonus

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Speaker 1: content on Patreon right now, Patreon dot com, slash Lyle forever,

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Speaker 1: And if you are a current Supercast subscriber, you get

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Speaker 1: one month free and it's the same stuff that you

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Speaker 1: were getting on the Supercast, except now there's more because

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Speaker 1: it's basically a combination of the bone bonus episodes and

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Speaker 1: the ad free stuff and the bonus documentary stuff. Here

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Speaker 1: we have, we are are We just released a bonus

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Speaker 1: episode today this morning. Here's a little preview of today's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, me and my boyfriend whose name is

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Speaker 2: also Owen.

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Speaker 1: Wait you're dating a dude who's also named Owen. Yeah,

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01:10:28,400 --> 01:10:31,320
Speaker 1: that's so funny. That's a very uh call me by

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01:10:31,400 --> 01:10:34,200
Speaker 1: your name relationship you got going on there.

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Speaker 2: So your little tam I I won't get too TM.

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Speaker 2: I'm your this your gag man, that's what this is.

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Speaker 2: That's that's you know, go ahead, man, the question has

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01:10:45,160 --> 01:10:49,439
Speaker 2: been posed before, you know. Is it weird calling out

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01:10:49,479 --> 01:10:51,479
Speaker 2: your own name during sex? Mm? Hmm?

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Speaker 1: Is it?

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Speaker 2: And I it?

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Speaker 1: Dean?

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Speaker 2: Hey are you doing?

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01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:00,360
Speaker 1: I'm doing good man? How are you? What'd you want

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01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:01,040
Speaker 1: to talk about today?

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01:11:02,320 --> 01:11:06,000
Speaker 2: Nothing much. I'm actually currently on vacation with my ex.

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Speaker 1: Right now, you're on vacation with your ex. Yeah, okay,

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01:11:10,920 --> 01:11:12,000
Speaker 1: and why is she your X.

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Speaker 3: It was just a lot of arguing all the time.

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01:11:18,240 --> 01:11:20,160
Speaker 3: I wasn't I'm not going to say I was the best.

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01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:26,360
Speaker 3: But we planned this vacation a while ago and we

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01:11:26,439 --> 01:11:31,800
Speaker 3: were debating on still coming or not. But we thought

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Speaker 3: it would be a good idea.

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Speaker 2: To come on this trip and just kind of like

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Speaker 2: have a one last like little like trying to hang out, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, to hear that full call and a whole brand

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Speaker 1: new hour of fresh podcast, a fresh podcast that's not

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Speaker 1: available on the public feed. Please go to patreon dot

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Speaker 1: com slash Lyle forever to become a member. Today. This

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01:11:59,400 --> 01:12:02,599
Speaker 1: has been the Therapy Gecko podcast. Thank you all for listening.

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01:12:02,680 --> 01:12:06,200
Speaker 1: I am Lyle ghak bless you all for billions of

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Speaker 1: years and then billions of years after that, and uh

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01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:12,599
Speaker 1: that's it. Thank you guys. Have a good one bye

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Speaker 1: bye see you next episode, ghak bless see you guys.

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01:12:16,280 --> 01:12:20,759
Speaker 1: Around the universe goes on the line taking your phone

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01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:24,760
Speaker 1: calls every night. Deacon goes to ride. He's teaching you

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01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:26,240
Speaker 1: aloud in the mind of your life.

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Speaker 2: Money's not really an expert