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Speaker 1: On today's episode of the Command Center Podcast, we have

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Speaker 1: another free agent frenzy and unfortunately Fred's music one.

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Speaker 2: Dumb dumb dumb overreactions, our deals getting done on the sideline,

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Speaker 2: and we talked about what is the percent chance of

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Speaker 2: which quarterback wearing the burgundy and gold That all starts

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Speaker 2: right now.

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Speaker 1: Welcome on into the Command Center Podcast.

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Speaker 2: I'm Logan Paulson here with the man, the myth, the legend,

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Speaker 2: the guy who wanted a better introduction, Fred Smooth and

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Speaker 2: Santana Moss. Hey, you guys doing.

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Speaker 3: I'm doing great. Man doing great. I'm doing great.

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Speaker 1: You guys went bowling last night? How did that go?

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Speaker 4: He did some charity work yesterday, got old Tannel beck

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Speaker 4: on Nick Woods.

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Speaker 5: Now, wow, I was getting a little rust off me

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Speaker 5: with with with this dude balls man, I mean.

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Speaker 1: It's bowling.

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Speaker 5: I got to meet Thanos. Yeah, you know this bowling

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Speaker 5: ball that he talks so highly of. He speaks highly of.

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Speaker 1: For a reason, though, are you is he Is he good?

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Speaker 1: Is he as good as he said?

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Speaker 5: But I had already saw Fred bowl before. We bowled

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Speaker 5: in Richmond all one time, even though those lanes.

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Speaker 4: But they was they was they wanted the real short

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Speaker 4: synthetic like right now, just like top golf is a

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Speaker 4: smaller version of regular golf, all of the bowling nowes

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Speaker 4: I turned into boutique bowling that it is not the

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Speaker 4: old Bowl of America.

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Speaker 3: I call him fun lane, short lane synthetic.

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Speaker 5: You're not gonna take a real ball ball there on

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Speaker 5: those lines, mission throw up because the lane is short.

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Speaker 3: They is so short.

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Speaker 1: Interesting. I did not know that much liquor.

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Speaker 3: It's all fun.

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Speaker 1: It's controversy.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 4: Yesterday we went to a real bowling all and just

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Speaker 4: to let you guys know, we talked about getting our

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Speaker 4: bowling thing together for the Command Center, and these guys

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Speaker 4: are willing to host that anytime, anytime.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, you know, I know, I know. They said

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Speaker 5: that we need to jump on that. Fred mentioned to

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Speaker 5: the guy. Now. The guy gave me his number and

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Speaker 5: we talked. He said, anytime we want to do it,

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Speaker 5: we could do it earlier. And they took us for

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Speaker 5: one hundred dollars to Yeah.

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Speaker 3: We we played against two of the guys they worked there,

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Speaker 3: and they're good. Yeah one no good. We was right down.

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Speaker 3: We were there.

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Speaker 1: We will a little score.

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Speaker 5: I would say, personally, I didn't play nowhere near and

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Speaker 5: I think Fred playing nowhere near that he see, but

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Speaker 5: I didn't play nowhere near where I usually play.

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Speaker 3: And so I let the team down. I mean I

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Speaker 3: was bowling. I didn't I didn't crack six, but we was.

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Speaker 4: We was combining and score day two scores against two scores.

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Speaker 4: And these girls, I mean these guys, they there every

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Speaker 4: day like they literally walk into the lane throwing the

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Speaker 3: The from the eye. Yeah, and they can throw, they can,

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Speaker 3: they can both. One of them was a lefty.

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Speaker 1: What was the score?

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Speaker 5: We played like four games, so like you had to

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Speaker 5: combine our scores. One game Fred led with one sixty

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Speaker 5: eight on our team.

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Speaker 3: Fred always led our team. I never, you know, led

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Speaker 5: So Fred had like one sixty eight and I probably

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Speaker 5: had one forty that game. Another game, Fred had like

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Speaker 5: one seventy something. I probably had one fifty something.

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Speaker 1: Pretty good.

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Speaker 3: So we was right there and that's not good considering

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Speaker 3: what we know. We can, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: So that's we had fun though.

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Speaker 1: Yeah that's impressive.

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Speaker 3: That's my first time getting back out there in a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's awesome, guys. And then what was the

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Speaker 2: was the charity. You guys are working for the HC.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the commendings and VAC had you know, a partner

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Speaker 4: So it was with their employees. Had fun with them,

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Speaker 4: took a lot of peaks and just kicked it. You know,

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Speaker 4: we did regular stuff with them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's great. And how many people were there do

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they did. Man, we had food, you name it,

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Speaker 5: I mean we was voting so much we didn't get

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Speaker 2: about it some more free agent frenzy with horror music,

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Speaker 2: because that's what you recommended, right.

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Speaker 1: The fans voted.

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Speaker 3: So the fans voted for free Yeah, they did. Surprise.

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Speaker 3: I'm not surprised. I'm not surprised. Hey, y'all stop hating

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Speaker 5: We love the fans. We just know that they love.

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Speaker 5: Go ahead and beat me out.

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Speaker 2: All right, So let's start with something like really high

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Speaker 2: level here. You know, the class is kind of finally

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Speaker 1: Start it off? You want to start off?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, I say two, two guys stand up most.

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Speaker 5: I think, you know, the obvious will be a lover

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Speaker 3: And when we got Lousu here, you.

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Speaker 5: Getting a guy like him, a fiery guy, but getting

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Speaker 5: I think that was that was a key pickup for us.

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Speaker 4: So I think he's the most important thing, especially if

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Speaker 3: You tell him the blitz and they.

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Speaker 4: Put two men in front of him, two men bake

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Speaker 4: I love his violent way of doing things, like he

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Speaker 4: the type dude. Because I watched Roadhouse with Jake Jillen Hall.

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Speaker 4: He'll beat him up, beat up four then he'll throw

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Speaker 1: Have you seen the original Roadhouse?

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Speaker 4: Why it's better Jake Jillen Hall plays the part so

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Speaker 2: And again, like that's really got you. They have fifty

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Speaker 4: Like you said, fifty million dollars still left over after

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Speaker 2: is the importance of a pro day? Who wants to

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Speaker 2: start up his numbers?

442
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Speaker 4: They need a basic they need they need a flora

443
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Speaker 4: on you, like, what are his traced beside playing the

444
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Speaker 4: game of football?

445
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Speaker 3: Is he over overly phase? Is he overly slow?

446
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Speaker 1: Is he not quick? But for the quarterback, these guys

447
00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:57,120
Speaker 1: aren't running.

448
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Speaker 4: There's no I'm running, but some of them in the

449
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Speaker 4: fast ones sometimes. But I look at it as a

450
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Speaker 4: dress rehearsal at your place. Unlike the comebine. The combine

451
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Speaker 4: is like going on the road to play a game

452
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Speaker 4: and showcase my talent. While now I'm telling the scouts

453
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Speaker 4: come now, come to me. While I got the place

454
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Speaker 4: I've been for three years on campus, I got my

455
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Speaker 4: own wide receivers, I got like people, I got relationships

456
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Speaker 4: with I myself. Don't like the quarterback pro days because

457
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Speaker 4: every year we had this Zach Wilson come out of

458
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Speaker 4: nowhere ton of throw about eighty.

459
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Speaker 3: Yards and not everybody all oohing and odd. So you're

460
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Speaker 3: not gonna do that in the game, and I'm glad

461
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Speaker 3: you took that approach.

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Speaker 5: That's what we will probably no, I'm seriously, because that's

463
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Speaker 5: what we're all wired to say. This is what we

464
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Speaker 5: do at our pro day. This is why I prefer

465
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Speaker 5: pro das I think it's a bunch of bs. To

466
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Speaker 5: be honest with you, we don't need pro days after

467
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Speaker 5: we just have four years of peelate, you know what

468
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Speaker 5: I mean, or some of those guys, whether two or

469
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Speaker 5: three years or a year worth of work. I don't

470
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Speaker 5: feel that you need that to sit here and say that.

471
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Speaker 5: You gotta now question am I the right guy for you?

472
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Speaker 5: You understand, because we don't all test well. Yeah, the

473
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Speaker 5: biggest test is me playing on Saturdays or Thursday nights

474
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Speaker 5: or whatever night those guys played in college. I can't

475
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Speaker 5: get in front of you and after you have me

476
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Speaker 5: doing X, Y and Z and then something. Okay, now

477
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Speaker 5: let me see you throw the ball eighty yards?

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Speaker 3: Did you just took three paints of blood from me?

479
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Speaker 5: First of all, it doesn't time out that way into

480
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Speaker 5: the god dog on game because if I.

481
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Speaker 3: Got guys find at my feet, I got to adjust.

482
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Speaker 3: I got to do this. I gotta do that.

483
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Speaker 5: It don't always look us pretty, you know what I mean.

484
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Speaker 5: So don't get me wrong. We all wired to do them.

485
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Speaker 5: So we know that, oh, PROD would be better than

486
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Speaker 5: me doing at the combine, So I will opt out

487
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Speaker 5: and say I want to do it my pro da.

488
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Speaker 5: But if you really had to ask me what I feel,

489
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Speaker 5: what I personally feel even from day one, why you

490
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Speaker 5: make me do all this playing.

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Speaker 3: If you're gonna sit here and now judge me again

492
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Speaker 3: and look for reasons why they're not. There's guys that

493
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Speaker 3: have made it.

494
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Speaker 5: To the first round that moved up drastically from wherever

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Speaker 5: they was at sloted that because they were in a

496
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Speaker 5: fast forty yeah, and it doesn't always pan out that

497
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Speaker 5: way on the field. So to me, glad like you

498
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Speaker 5: made the statement of what you felt because I felt

499
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Speaker 5: the same way. But my honest opinion about it is

500
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Speaker 5: they not really needed and I'm glad to see that.

501
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Speaker 5: Some of these kids that they talk so harshly about

502
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Speaker 5: how they do things these days, they said, f you,

503
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Speaker 5: I'm not gonna do it.

504
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Speaker 3: Marvin Harrison said, you've seen I'm so So.

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Speaker 2: What I will say is from a team perspective, specifically

506
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Speaker 2: with with the quarterback. Yeah, is I want to I'm

507
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Speaker 2: not going to watch you throw the ball. I'm not

508
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Speaker 2: I know how you throw the ball.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

510
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Speaker 2: I'm going to see how you interact with your teammate,

511
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Speaker 2: you conduct, how you interact with the coaches, how you

512
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Speaker 2: handle like the you know, they also get to go

513
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Speaker 2: to dinner with the team before, right, Yeah, so they

514
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Speaker 2: get to go out and have dinner, and then I

515
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Speaker 2: get to see how you are.

516
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Speaker 1: With the hostess. I get to see how you are

517
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Speaker 1: waiting for stuff. I get to see all that stuff.

518
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Speaker 2: So that's and I think it's just another opportunity for

519
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Speaker 2: like a personality data point.

520
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Speaker 5: What if you get a guy that's so shy, you

521
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Speaker 5: keep reaching, you get nothing from him that day at dinner,

522
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Speaker 5: but he goes out there and he's the baddest MF

523
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Speaker 5: on the field.

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Speaker 2: Sow you just so this is this is I had

525
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Speaker 2: a conversation with somebody about guy that came out two

526
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Speaker 2: years ago and he was incredibly shy, like almost stand

527
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Speaker 2: off is like a meeting. And so what he said,

528
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Speaker 2: I was like, well, how do you take that? You know,

529
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Speaker 2: this is guy I a want of respect for. He goes,

530
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Speaker 2: what my The way I read it is like, can

531
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Speaker 2: he play in the building? Is that stand off his

532
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Speaker 2: personality going to be a problem or do we have

533
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Speaker 2: enough good guys around him that are going to make

534
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Speaker 2: him feel la and make him grow? And so his

535
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Speaker 2: thought was like, you know that was his This is

536
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Speaker 2: this coach that I had who's one of my favorite

537
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Speaker 2: coach I ever played for. He's like that's his superpower.

538
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Speaker 2: So he's like, I'm confident that if he gets her

539
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Speaker 2: high and get him to open up and he can

540
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Speaker 2: sit along the room.

541
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Speaker 5: So basically that got rid. Around the guys, he's going

542
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Speaker 5: to be okay. But around us he just kind of opened.

543
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Speaker 1: Up correct And I think that that's what you're doing, right.

544
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Speaker 2: So if if you go out to dinner, like, for example,

545
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Speaker 2: there's a rumor about one of the receivers in this

546
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Speaker 2: year's class being rude during medical examinations at them, and

547
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Speaker 2: so you're like, man, like, how are you going to

548
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Speaker 2: be a prima donna the whole time?

549
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Speaker 1: Are you going to work? Are you going to do

550
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Speaker 1: what needs to be done? So it's not I think

551
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Speaker 1: a lot of people think, oh, it's the pro day.

552
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Speaker 1: I get to go out and watch it throw the ball.

553
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Speaker 1: And I've seen it.

554
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Speaker 2: I've seen you do it a million times, and it's

555
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Speaker 2: nice to see someone throw in person, like just to see, like,

556
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Speaker 2: you know, when we're at the combine with Jason, how

557
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Speaker 2: we go, it's nice to see them throw and get

558
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Speaker 2: to kind of feel their mechanics and field in real life.

559
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Speaker 1: But you don't need it.

560
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Speaker 3: So there's a test within the test it's the test

561
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Speaker 3: within the test.

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Speaker 2: Right, So like when I when I go up there

563
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Speaker 2: and I complete a ball, Am I dapping my receiver

564
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Speaker 2: up when he comes back?

565
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Speaker 1: Or am I like you know what I'm saying? Yeah,

566
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Speaker 1: because I gotta.

567
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Speaker 2: Be I'm the especially with the quarterback. I'm the face

568
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Speaker 2: of the franchise. So again it's the field stuff is

569
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Speaker 2: not that important, but me seeing how you are because

570
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Speaker 2: I get I only get a couple, right, I get

571
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Speaker 2: I get the combine, I get the pro day, and

572
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Speaker 2: I get the official visit, and I got to make

573
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Speaker 2: in those three meetings.

574
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Speaker 3: I gotta figure out how are you a franchise quarter.

575
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Speaker 1: Are you the guy for us?

576
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Speaker 2: And again you might be the guy for somebody else,

577
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Speaker 2: But are you can our young building here with the

578
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Speaker 2: commanders tolerate whatever you're going to bring in?

579
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Speaker 6: You know?

580
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Speaker 1: And I think that's kind of what you got to

581
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Speaker 1: come down. Yeah.

582
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Speaker 4: I like that because now, like you said, it is

583
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Speaker 4: not you're not going there for the player, You're going

584
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Speaker 4: there for a person.

585
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Speaker 3: Yes, I think that is very important. And we are

586
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Speaker 3: talking about franchise quarterback.

587
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Speaker 1: It's a little different.

588
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's totally different than him come working out a

589
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Speaker 4: ConA wide receiver, a tight end.

590
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Speaker 2: And it's like, you know all the other top guys,

591
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Speaker 2: you want to make sure that the right kind of

592
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Speaker 2: guy for you. And I think the other thing is,

593
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Speaker 2: like I've heard this from a couple of scouts. It's

594
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Speaker 2: like we had our decision made on quarterback before we

595
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Speaker 2: even went to the pro day, and it's just to

596
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Speaker 2: cross the tig and do like are you are you the.

597
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Speaker 1: Guy we thought you are? Yes? No, we're moving on.

598
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Speaker 2: Yeah like that because all the like you said ten,

599
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Speaker 2: all the evaluations done, and so something I got a

600
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Speaker 2: question for you, Tanna is for you because you did

601
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Speaker 2: both and I think Fred you did the same thing.

602
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Speaker 2: What's the difference between Combine and Prota in terms of

603
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Speaker 2: feel of the day and like your interactions with the

604
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Speaker 2: coaching staff in your personal experience.

605
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Speaker 5: Well, my personal experience, and and and being that I had,

606
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Speaker 5: I felt I had the leverage to do what I did.

607
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Speaker 5: I went to the Combine, So because I was awarded

608
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Speaker 5: to go there, everybody don't get a chance to go

609
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Speaker 5: to the combat. Yeah you know what I mean, that's

610
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Speaker 5: something big, Like if you get to go to Combine, yeah,

611
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Speaker 5: I'm signing you up.

612
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Speaker 3: I'm there.

613
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Speaker 5: But My thing was it was like my I guess

614
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Speaker 5: you could say, in a sense, my interview with all

615
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Speaker 5: the teams at one time. You know, this is the

616
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Speaker 5: this is the one time see the progam I'm not

617
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Speaker 5: gonna get a chance to sit down like some of

618
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Speaker 5: them two, but the combine, it's days that we have

619
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Speaker 5: slotted where I get a chance to walk around, take

620
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Speaker 5: the physicals, be judged how I'm around the other guys,

621
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Speaker 5: talk to the individual teams whoever wants to talk to me,

622
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Speaker 5: and then you know, just see how I conduct business.

623
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Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

624
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Speaker 5: That's the time when you you know, we're not putting

625
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Speaker 5: on no shooting tie, but we in our job, we

626
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 5: in our sweatsuits. But they want to see us as

627
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 5: you know potential, you know, guys that they're gonna pick up.

628
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Speaker 5: So I took advantage of the combine. I knew coming

629
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Speaker 5: into the combine. I'm not doing nothing today, I'm not

630
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Speaker 5: doing nothing this weekend. But I'm gonna take full advantage

631
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Speaker 5: of these guys get to know me and telling me

632
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Speaker 5: what they feel about me, and making sure that I,

633
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Speaker 5: like you just said, across all my te's dot dies,

634
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Speaker 5: which one goes first.

635
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Speaker 3: I was gonna ask you that question.

636
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Speaker 5: Because you know, we say not die across the t's

637
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Speaker 5: and then sometimes people say across the t's dies.

638
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Speaker 3: I think you feel how do you feel about it? Right?

639
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 5: Because because I heard Logan just said differently, and I've

640
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 5: said that the way Logan said that, and someone corrected

641
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Speaker 5: me one day when I when I was texting that

642
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 5: I got across my tea's not my eye to my tenament,

643
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Speaker 5: I come phote, you know, but I'm saying I come phote,

644
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Speaker 5: and I say I didn't naturally done. I didn't want

645
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Speaker 5: to get off to I didn't want to get all sception,

646
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Speaker 5: but I understand I just had to ask that question.

647
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:23,680
Speaker 5: But then when it came to my pro dain just

648
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Speaker 5: to get back on track. When it came to my

649
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,680
Speaker 5: pro day on for the Pumping Show, that was my mentality. Look,

650
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 5: I'm at home, I'm comfortable, and you know, I had

651
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 5: this talk with Jason because I want to share this

652
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Speaker 5: because this is something that I feel needs to be heard.

653
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Speaker 3: Go back to two thousand and one when we was

654
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Speaker 3: coming out.

655
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Speaker 5: I don't know who sent fering forty nine ers guy

656
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Speaker 5: was that they sent to the comeback, because it was

657
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Speaker 5: the same guy that that that basically weighed me in

658
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Speaker 5: and took my height, and he didn't know probably to

659
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Speaker 5: this day right now, I'm a diehard fort nine fan.

660
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Speaker 3: I was a diehard fort nine fan grow.

661
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 5: But this guy gave me the toughest time. I'm talking

662
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,400
Speaker 5: about the guy toald Bs, to me the whole entire time.

663
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 5: And he told me at the comeby because I wasn't

664
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 5: working out, he wasn't gonna see me at the pro day,

665
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:08,159
Speaker 5: and then he was right there at my pro day.

666
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 5: And then at my pro day when I told him

667
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:11,639
Speaker 5: I wasn't going to run routs after I ran my

668
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 5: four two forty, he said, well, I'm not coming back,

669
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 5: and he was right there again. But he he gave

670
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,399
Speaker 5: me a hard ass time purpose I don't know, but

671
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 5: what it was. He was just few to my fire

672
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,240
Speaker 5: because I ain't say nothing to you. End up drafting

673
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 5: Drake Carter. Yeah, Drake Carter end up being yeah. But

674
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:27,879
Speaker 5: I was just wondering who that guy was because he

675
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,120
Speaker 5: he kind of gave me the business. But I went

676
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 5: out there and did my thing. But I was prepared

677
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,640
Speaker 5: for that because I felt like, you know, they already

678
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,399
Speaker 5: kind of giving me a I guess looking at it

679
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:41,920
Speaker 5: because back then we wasn't supposed to do the whole

680
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 5: pro day thing at home. But like I said, if

681
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 5: you had deliveries, you can do yeah, And I think

682
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:47,720
Speaker 5: they was giving us a kind of uh, you know,

683
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 5: you had to make sure you showed up at your

684
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 5: prode if you was gonna miss out on doing it

685
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 5: in front of everybody at the comeby.

686
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,879
Speaker 3: So I was. I was happy that I went out

687
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:57,920
Speaker 3: there and did just that. But I know if I

688
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,880
Speaker 3: wouldn't have, like, oh see, this guy should have to combine,

689
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 3: who do you think he is?

690
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 5: So? But I'm like, I'm saying, you asked the question.

691
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 5: That's the difference to me in my perspective, he right, because.

692
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,159
Speaker 4: The thing about it is at the come by, you

693
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 4: introduce the player, I mean the person, the person.

694
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 3: They get to know the person that to come by.

695
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 4: Then at your at your at home, at your personal workouts,

696
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 4: they get the introduce to the player who you are

697
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 4: and your familiar surroundings. Like me, I'm known famously for

698
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 4: doing the bench press one time one time I got long.

699
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 4: T'm already not the strongest got bitch pressing. It's just

700
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:41,640
Speaker 4: something I'm never gonna.

701
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 3: Be good at.

702
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 4: And I remember two of the scouts came over there

703
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,399
Speaker 4: to me and they were like, we like that. I

704
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 4: like what you like the fact I did it one time.

705
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 4: You like, I like the fact that you did it

706
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,879
Speaker 4: at all, Because most corners and wide receivers are scared

707
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 4: to get under that bench. You just showed me you

708
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 4: ain't really scared of nothing, And it showed me you

709
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 4: got humility. You don't because I literally did it one

710
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 4: time and racked and say, up, you didn't come to

711
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 4: see me, body bill.

712
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 3: You came to see me run. And I understood what

713
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 3: they want to do.

714
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 4: They want to see me backpedal. They want to see

715
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 4: me go through the drill. They want to see how

716
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 4: fluent my hips was. They already knew I was kind

717
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 4: of cocky. They knew I had the mental makeup to

718
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 4: play cornerback. Now they just there to see the physical

719
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,440
Speaker 4: make up. I was skinny one seventy five, so you

720
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 4: know that's always gonna break up question marks. But I

721
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 4: felt like it was a situation where this is the

722
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 4: only thing I can say about not working out it

723
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 4: to come by because I did. Then I put all

724
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 4: the pressure on myself to do good good in my

725
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,639
Speaker 4: workout didn't think about it. What if I like tweak

726
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 4: a ham screen a week before my work, Like, it's

727
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 4: so many things that can happen, So it's a thin

728
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 4: line there. I to not doing stuff that to come

729
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 4: by and say, you know what, I'm gonna put it

730
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 4: all on one day. All I can say, if you

731
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 4: put it all on it one day, you better do

732
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 4: everything to make sure you show up and show out

733
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 4: that one day.

734
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 3: Yeah.

735
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, And you just made me think of a story.

736
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 2: Like I remember I was talking to some of a

737
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 2: couple years ago and they were saying, Oh, we were

738
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 2: trying to side between player acts and play or why

739
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 2: And it was something little like what you're describing. Oh,

740
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 2: like one of them like when he comes into the

741
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 2: meeting room, he looks you're right in the eye and

742
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 2: shakes your hand and it's like very deliberate and professional

743
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 2: like you're talking about. The other guy was perfectly polite,

744
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 2: but didn't have the same confidence yeah, coming to the room.

745
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 2: And so that was how they made the decision. Since again,

746
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 2: I think people fans like it's they think it's this

747
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 2: concrete concept.

748
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 1: Ain't so subjective.

749
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 5: And you know what, man, I'm glad you brought that

750
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 5: up and I didn't know if you had more to

751
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 5: say about that. But I hate that in a sense too,

752
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 5: because you don't really know from that.

753
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 1: You don't.

754
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 5: You got guys are trained to show them your best.

755
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 5: Come in there, hey, coach, how you doing?

756
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 3: Yes? Hair style?

757
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 5: You get that, and you get that guy in your

758
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 5: building and he's a slouch, he's the worse, you know

759
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 5: what I'm saying. And then you get god like myself,

760
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 5: Like I was told from Dave, I tell my kids

761
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 5: that man looking man is his eye when youre talking

762
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:53,719
Speaker 5: to him, shake his hand firmly, you know what I mean.

763
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 3: That's I was. I was programmed as a kid to

764
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 3: do that. So I'm going to do that.

765
00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 5: Naturally speak, you know. Make sure you be deliberate with

766
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 5: everything you say. Make sure you pronounced like my dad's man.

767
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 5: I heard that every day leaving my dad call when

768
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 5: I go to school. You know what I'm saying. I

769
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:10,959
Speaker 5: tell my son, Now, make sure they hear you. Make

770
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:12,719
Speaker 5: sure you, I mean, make sure when he asks your name,

771
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 5: you bet you know what I mean. Project that voice.

772
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 5: So some of us born and that's put into us,

773
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 5: you know, every day. And then you got guys who

774
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 5: can't do it because that's just not them. Like my

775
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 5: son talks with his eyes down sometimes you better can

776
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 5: hear him. But then I know I put him in

777
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 5: front of it up he go out there and do

778
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 5: his thing.

779
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 1: So everybody, so glad you brought that up, because that's

780
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 1: the importance of the prode.

781
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 2: That's the importance of the visit b rob here. Like So,

782
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 2: I remember talking to Ron about this last year. He said,

783
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 2: did not interview well at the combine. Was like, he

784
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 2: was fine, but didn't like we could tell he was

785
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 2: really guarded prode.

786
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 1: Same thing.

787
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 2: It's like, man, we really like this guy, but how's

788
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 2: he gonna fit. So they brought him in for the

789
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 2: visit and they said they finally got him to open up.

790
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 2: And so to me, that's the more opportunity here to

791
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 2: meet the kid. You get to kind of navigate that

792
00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 2: ability and kind of figure out who they really are.

793
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 2: Jason question, which I think is a good question, and

794
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 2: it's something I never thought about before, and I don't

795
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 2: know if you guys have thought about this. There's every

796
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 2: you know, all these gms, all these scouts on the

797
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 2: sideline watching these pro days. I think any business gets

798
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 2: done while they're standing there watching.

799
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh, most definitely.

800
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 4: By the way, now that we're sitting here, how do

801
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 4: you feel about that detail? I see you got three

802
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 4: of them. Uh, y'all in need of tight end depth?

803
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 4: I have too many tight ends. You have too many

804
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 4: defensive backs of D linemen.

805
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 1: Like you're saying, not even about like the quarterback now, yes, No,

806
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 1: I think.

807
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 3: It's about any kind of being that.

808
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 4: That needs to be done GM wide, because like, you

809
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 4: don't get off thirty two of these guys together much.

810
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 3: And that's the guy that I got to call anyway.

811
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 3: And if I got if I got a nugget that

812
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 3: I want to drop with you or let you know,

813
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 3: you know, we might be open for being.

814
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 4: And then number two you know, like, hi, go the

815
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 4: time to do that, especially when you especially when the

816
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 4: guys that you're talking about are the guy that y'all all.

817
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 3: Here to see anyway.

818
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 2: And it's funny you mentioned that because like at the

819
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 2: Senior Bowl, you'll be talking to somebody like you know,

820
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 2: a scout or whoever, and all of a sudden somebody

821
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 2: walked by from another team. It's like, oh, hey, we

822
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 2: got to talk about that thing. Oh it's called you know,

823
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 2: and this time they're together, there's business stuff going on.

824
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 5: I can tell you it's crazy because I wasn't even

825
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 5: going to use that part of it because.

826
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 3: When you're young, you don't know what's going on with

827
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 3: those teams.

828
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 5: But as a young guy seeing that, which I got

829
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 5: a chance to see that, and I was like, you know,

830
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 5: I felt great about it, just seeing how many people

831
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 5: came out from different staffs after being told it wasn't

832
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 5: going to be none. As a player, you're like, oh, yeah,

833
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 5: I brought everybody here, so they here, even if it's

834
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 5: business outside of me, they're talking about me, you know

835
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 5: what I mean.

836
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 3: I brought all these guys here. Even though some of

837
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 3: those guys don't have me on their draft board, they here.

838
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 3: They here for a reason.

839
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 5: So as a kid or as a guy who's up

840
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 5: and coming trying to get drafted, I'm sure that they

841
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 5: got that in their mind. It's not so much in

842
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 5: what you're talking about because they don't know what business

843
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,479
Speaker 5: they need to take care of. They looking at it like, man,

844
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 5: I got all these guys here, and I got the

845
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 5: GM and the head coach. The head coach came like,

846
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 5: you know, that's amazing for a guy to have a

847
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 5: pro day because like you one things that the combine,

848
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 5: they all come to the combine, they be spread it out.

849
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 5: But on your pro day, on your grass and your

850
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 5: home turf, you got guys lined up with damn stop

851
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 5: watches outside of the actual identify and they got they watches.

852
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 5: They got they watches and like they want to see

853
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 5: you run too, you know what I mean. So that

854
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 5: was dope to me and I think too, man, you

855
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 5: gotta look at it. I know this girl to get

856
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 5: a little bit off topic, you know. For me, bro

857
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 5: the way I got into college, it was like if

858
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 5: you're talking about wanting to be humbled, I was humbled

859
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 5: to the to the to the I mean, but I

860
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 5: didn't feel like it was nothing wrong, but it do

861
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 5: you feel like it was.

862
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 3: I just feel like.

863
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 5: This is how I'm getting in, Like it's not about

864
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 5: how you give so to be leaving and going to

865
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 5: the league as a first round potential pick or not

866
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 5: having to go to uh, you know, to the to

867
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 5: any All Star game to kind of solidify that, Like

868
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 5: that was great. I feel like I was on the

869
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 5: top of a mountain. So my pro day was like, man,

870
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 5: you gotta perform. You're telling you, and I says, I

871
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 5: say this because people don't know this. Do you know

872
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 5: when I ran my second four, I pulled my hamstring?

873
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 5: Did you really I pulled my hamstream come across the

874
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 5: line and I had four two six. I'm sitting there

875
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:09,240
Speaker 5: like I didn't want to tell him I pulled my hamstream,

876
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 5: but I was like, I'm not catching today cause my

877
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 5: agent was like, you gotta do nothing else, you.

878
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:13,439
Speaker 3: Know what I'm saying.

879
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,359
Speaker 5: And I'm like, I'm doing it because my tweak myham Yeah,

880
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 5: but they didn't know that until thirty days later when

881
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 5: I went out there in this up.

882
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 3: So, man, it's just phenomenal to have the opportunity.

883
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely. So last question, let's keep this one really quick.

884
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 1: Keenan Allen at Keyler Williams pro Day. Is there something

885
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,360
Speaker 1: to read in there or is he just being a

886
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 1: good good I look at it.

887
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 3: I look at it like this. I threw a lot

888
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 3: of different things out there.

889
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 5: Maybe the one of them sticker not Keenan Allen from

890
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 5: the area, from the DMV, Kaylor Williams from the DNB.

891
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 3: Keenan Allen being here, King Allen.

892
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 5: No, he's going to Chicago, he saying himself, it's no

893
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 5: doubt that Chicago picking this GUYU to be my quarterback.

894
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, Keenan Allen just came from the Chargers.

895
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 5: Maybe he still have a home there, he's in the area,

896
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 5: so he said, let me go show up and see

897
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 5: this guy because you know, he might be my potential.

898
00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 3: So it's just so much going on there that you

899
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 3: can kind of take one of those and pin it

900
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 3: to it, you know.

901
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, when they compare the quarterback to Pat Mahome and

902
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 4: say he the Nicks coming and you a y received,

903
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:09,919
Speaker 4: but they love to catch a hundred ball.

904
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 1: Go go, go visiting.

905
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 5: Go.

906
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 3: It's a simple man, smart Keenan Allen.

907
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,320
Speaker 2: Move, Yeah, absolutely all right, So it's gonna take you

908
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:22,320
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Speaker 2: to day that Kim was right in the way. Sorry guys,

915
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Speaker 2: it happens. Yeah, it happens.

916
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 1: All right. So Dan had some comments and I think, Jason,

917
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 1: are you gonna read these things or what do we

918
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,399
Speaker 1: got going on here? Yeah? I can do dan Quinn,

919
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 1: all right, give it to all the juice, Jason.

920
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,240
Speaker 3: No, No, I'm only hater Jason.

921
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:55,800
Speaker 1: Sometimes.

922
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 3: Most of the time, I'm a nice Jason. All right.

923
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:01,800
Speaker 6: So this is a quote from Dan Quinn that he

924
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 6: had with an interview with NFL Network at the annual

925
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 6: League meeting.

926
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 3: All right, so here we go.

927
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 6: I would say it'd be fair to envision we'd be

928
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 6: taking a quarterback to say where it will be happening.

929
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 6: I think that's a better question for Adam Peters. As

930
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,320
Speaker 6: the next week's unfold, there will be a lot of discussion,

931
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 6: and that's why we've had a great trip out seeing

932
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,879
Speaker 6: some of these guys. We'll do the same some more

933
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 6: in the weeks ahead. But I've enjoyed the process with

934
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 6: Adam and going through it. He's somebody that's an absolute

935
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:31,720
Speaker 6: expert at this position.

936
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:34,800
Speaker 3: What an answer is?

937
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 1: What an answer?

938
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 3: Like?

939
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 1: It just you kind of touching all the things.

940
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 2: Oh, we're probably gonna take a quarterback, but don't know

941
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 2: exactly where, and then it's going to be Outam's decisions, so.

942
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:44,840
Speaker 1: I don't really know. And then it's just such a

943
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 1: good This.

944
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 3: Is just coach talk. I say a lot and tail

945
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 3: you nothing.

946
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like, we've heard coaches mess

947
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 2: this up, so decided to have a coach that's like,

948
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 2: you got information?

949
00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 3: Yeah he understood.

950
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was like, yeah, a lot of information, but

951
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 2: not that many. So like, so let's just talk about this.

952
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 2: What is he saying here, and let's get.

953
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:09,359
Speaker 4: Way to defer to Adam Peters. He's decision making, we're

954
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 4: collaborating on this. Oh, we might take Jayson Daniels, if too,

955
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 4: we might take jj mccott.

956
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 1: There, that's what.

957
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 3: You don't know, and we're not gonna let you know.

958
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 3: See that is what he's saying. Like I'm his interpreters,

959
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 3: I am Dan's interpreting. This is what he really meant.

960
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 4: Stay out out our bed unless you want to call

961
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 4: to negotiate about this number two pick.

962
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 5: Worry about what we do regardless of where we wherever

963
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 5: we decide to take a pick at in the first round.

964
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:40,800
Speaker 3: It's gonna be a quarterback. That's how I looked at it.

965
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 5: I'm like, look, you know, yeah, we're gonna we're gonna

966
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 5: pick a quarterback, but we're not telling you what it's

967
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 5: gonna be at two or whether you're gonna come on

968
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 5: down and get one of those other guys.

969
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 3: That's how I looked at you know what I mean.

970
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 1: So guess even at thirty six, right.

971
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, we got we got opportunities. Is the Michael Penix

972
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 4: in the world. This is a deep quarterback draft.

973
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 3: And I just keep asking why.

974
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 5: I say, we kind of got a We're in a

975
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 5: situation here that I won't be surprised if anything, you

976
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, because I feel like you have

977
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 5: enough guys there that you can say that might fit

978
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 5: what you want to do.

979
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 3: You see what I'm saying, Like, we.

980
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:11,839
Speaker 5: Look at these first three guys, and bro, we come

981
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:16,320
Speaker 5: drafting all a sudden, the shock like damn, like Marvin

982
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:18,800
Speaker 5: Harrison and Amber I mean, what the dude name Neighbors

983
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 5: and them, those dudes go in those first four slots.

984
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 3: You'd be like, well, damn, we thought it was going

985
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 3: to be quarterback quarterback, you know what I mean.

986
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 5: So I'm not saying that's going to happen, but anything

987
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 5: can happen, you know, It's always in especially when you

988
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 5: have as much as talent, like guys talking about JJ McCarthy,

989
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 5: he has the best proag I ever saw, you know

990
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 5: what I mean, this guy, And I mean, of course

991
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 5: this coach would say that, you know what I mean.

992
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,360
Speaker 5: But I'm just saying, though, Bro, it's so many quarterbacks,

993
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 5: like I'm still sold on I like Pinnis they talking

994
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:47,240
Speaker 5: about you know, bot Nicks.

995
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 3: I like both.

996
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 5: I like a lot of these guys in this draft,

997
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 5: and I feel like it's you know, these teams have

998
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 5: the right people at the helm. That's that's deciphering through

999
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 5: what should we do with these opportunities? What should we

1000
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,320
Speaker 5: do with these draft picks? And I'm glad we have

1001
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 5: a guy like Adam Peters here right now because he

1002
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 5: could be the guy that say, hey, it's a it's

1003
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 5: a bigger move that we can make, that can make

1004
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 5: this thing really you.

1005
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 3: Know, you know, great for us.

1006
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 2: So Tanny, you said something like I'm not gonna say

1007
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 2: what's gonna happen? But what was he just said that

1008
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 2: right there? It was perfect, But it was like, there's

1009
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 2: a million possibility. Yeah, there's a million of ways that

1010
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 2: could go. Let's talk about the possibilities a little bit right.

1011
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 2: So we're gonna assign percentages here. Okay, so let's start

1012
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:24,319
Speaker 2: with the kind of the.

1013
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 1: One that is top of the list here bears drafting

1014
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:28,280
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams.

1015
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:36,319
Speaker 4: I got the only definit of one because it's gonna

1016
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 4: take him least too many to get into the podium.

1017
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:40,879
Speaker 3: They depicted Cale Williams three months ago.

1018
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:43,359
Speaker 4: At the end of the day, the day that they

1019
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 4: said with training just the field is the day that

1020
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,800
Speaker 4: they mentally drafted Caleb Williams.

1021
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 3: They will not give us a chance to even consider

1022
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 3: drafting this gianesty thing.

1023
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:55,800
Speaker 5: You know, before the leading up to the to the

1024
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 5: to that Wednesday before a draft day, we'll be getting

1025
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:00,879
Speaker 5: off the plane. They'll be talking about what Cayler winning

1026
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 5: to sign up of them, you know, you know how

1027
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 5: they do it.

1028
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 3: To day before the.

1029
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 5: Number one pick gonna be we're gonna be worrying about

1030
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:09,839
Speaker 5: number two pick already. We're gonna be on the clock

1031
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 5: by the time, you know, by time to draft their guts.

1032
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,360
Speaker 2: So I guess the percentage of the Commander's trading up

1033
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,399
Speaker 2: for Kayler Williams is it ain't.

1034
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 5: For some reason, the way we're doing things right now,

1035
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 5: I don't see us even putting ourselves in that kind

1036
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 5: of situation to lose anything we're trying to gain.

1037
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 4: Everybody say, we're not gonna lose. We're gonna lose an

1038
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 4: extra player to gain to gain one guy, you know.

1039
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 2: And I think that that's that's the great point there.

1040
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:36,400
Speaker 2: I think when you look at how they've handled free agency,

1041
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 2: they're not trying to hit home runs.

1042
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 1: They're trying to get on their base, building the team.

1043
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,439
Speaker 3: That's what we have been wanting for a long time,

1044
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 3: you know, absolutely, So.

1045
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 2: Again, like that's how we feel about that. I know

1046
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 2: a lot of fans. I talk to people, all we

1047
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 2: gotta trade for kill ms. Probably not gonna at least

1048
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:52,280
Speaker 2: that's my opinion.

1049
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 1: You never know who.

1050
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 3: We just three guys, you.

1051
00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:58,839
Speaker 1: Know, just hanging out talking ball.

1052
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 2: Okay, So then that comes to phase two, the prospect

1053
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 2: of the commanders sticking and picking at number two.

1054
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 1: What do you think the likely of that is.

1055
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 3: I'll give you fifty staying at number two, and.

1056
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 1: Then we'll talk about who we're picking sticking, sticking and

1057
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 1: picking the two.

1058
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 3: You know, I'm about fifty fix five percent, So that

1059
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:20,839
Speaker 3: we don't move this guy.

1060
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 4: I just think this guy also would not Peters does

1061
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:27,320
Speaker 4: not strike me as a guy that would be afraid

1062
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 4: to walk up to that podeum and say, hey, check

1063
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:29,399
Speaker 4: this out.

1064
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 3: With the second pick, a trade with the you know,

1065
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 3: to get more player like you would not shock me.

1066
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:37,800
Speaker 4: So that's why I say sixty five percent that we

1067
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,800
Speaker 4: stay at number two. Now, the question is what's the

1068
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 4: gap between Drake May, Jane Daniels and bow Knicks.

1069
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:47,320
Speaker 1: Not so J J. J.

1070
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 3: McCarthy. You know what I'm saying.

1071
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 4: So if he literally feels to himself, they ain't that

1072
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:55,400
Speaker 4: far apart, and I could end up getting a tackle

1073
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,359
Speaker 4: a pass rusher with with another first round pick.

1074
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 3: Let's tempted.

1075
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 5: This is what I asked you guys a couple a

1076
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:07,320
Speaker 5: few weeks ago about how far are every So is

1077
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 5: it just a it's a Caleb thing and then everybody

1078
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 5: else you understand, like I have yet to hear everybody

1079
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 5: else be You know, I've heard certain guys say that,

1080
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 5: you know, jayde and Denils is better than Caleb. I

1081
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 5: was sitting there looking at the dude when he was

1082
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 5: saying there, like, boy, you is crazy. But at the

1083
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 5: same time I feel him because he had the better

1084
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 5: year last year. You know, when a guy have a

1085
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 5: year like he had, and then when you see some

1086
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 5: of his his his intangibles, like you say, hey, this

1087
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 5: guy was quick with the delivery. His guy can also

1088
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 5: get out the pocket and and you know be lying

1089
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:39,840
Speaker 5: on you and you know house calls something like that.

1090
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 5: I understand that's where this game has transcended. Now you

1091
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,399
Speaker 5: got more quarterbacks that's doing that more so now than

1092
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 5: doing some of the things that we've seen Kayler.

1093
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 3: But Kayler just phenomenal. So I go back to ask

1094
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 3: that question.

1095
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 5: The reason why I say fifty to fifty because I'm like,

1096
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Speaker 5: if we sold on getting a quarterback, but we're not

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Speaker 5: telling you when and where.

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Speaker 3: Maybe, like I said, this is my opinion, they're not

1099
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 3: saying this.

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00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 5: Maybe they feel that, hey, I can move out of

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Speaker 5: here and pick up more and find that a quarterback

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Speaker 5: still get a solid quarterback with the team that we're

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00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 5: building around them to come in here and be productive

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Speaker 5: enough for us to win games.

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Speaker 1: So let me let me hit that real quick.

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Speaker 2: So in terms of sticking and picking it too, I

1107
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 2: think you think it's sixty five, you think it's fifty fifty.

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00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 1: I think it's like eighty five percent.

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00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 2: But because let me just tell you why I think this, right,

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00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 2: I think there's to your Pointanna, Like I'm a big

1111
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 2: proponent of trading back. The problem is the second you

1112
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 2: trade back, you're incurring a certain amount of risk. You're

1113
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 2: basically saying, I am okay if I don't if I

1114
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Speaker 2: don't get a quarterback of these top three guys, and

1115
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 2: I don't think I don't think they're okay with you

1116
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 2: and I that's just me speculating, that's just me looking

1117
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:46,320
Speaker 2: at the film being like, these are kind of the

1118
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 2: guys I'd be okay with, and these guys are a.

1119
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 1: Little bit more developmental, like bo Nicks Michael Pennick. Think

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00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,319
Speaker 1: they're good players, but they're a little bit farther away.

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00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 1: So to me, if you, let's say Minnesota, you trade

1122
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 1: with Minnesota, you get to eleven, you gotta then trade

1123
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 1: back up and you gotta hope that one of those

1124
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 1: guys slides out, and you also hope that no one

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00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 1: else trades up to get together them. So I think

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00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 1: that's where it gets.

1127
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 2: A little you there is a maneuverability here and an opportunity,

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Speaker 2: but I do think there's a level of risk.

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00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 5: So obviously, so what you say, it's more risk in

1130
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 5: trading down because you're not gonna get no one.

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Speaker 3: I think you might not end up getting a quarterback

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Speaker 3: at all.

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00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 4: You know here, thing I can say about this quarterback group.

1134
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Speaker 4: I've just been rambling my head.

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Speaker 3: Through this group.

1136
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:24,959
Speaker 1: It's a tough group.

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00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 4: Now, this is what I looked at. Two Heisman Trophy winners.

1138
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:31,399
Speaker 4: Caleb won to hide, Jaden one to hide.

1139
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:32,800
Speaker 1: You got j J.

1140
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:36,319
Speaker 4: McCarty, the national champion. You got Michael Pennix, played him

1141
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:37,840
Speaker 4: in the national championship.

1142
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 3: You got bow.

1143
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 4: Knicks then played more football than all these guys combined.

1144
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 4: I love my quarterbacks to play a lot of football.

1145
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 4: So as I keep like putting these guys here, I'm like,

1146
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:51,799
Speaker 4: at least guys are a very accomplished guys. And when

1147
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:55,360
Speaker 4: I watch bow Knicks, Bolee jumps off the screen like

1148
00:44:55,480 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 4: I can say that his long is alive. He it's

1149
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,800
Speaker 4: a lot better than people thinking. He reminds me of

1150
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 4: a fast Rix Grossman.

1151
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 3: Or something like he and he started looking to you.

1152
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 3: All these quarterbacks bring something different to the table.

1153
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:13,320
Speaker 4: And as a as a guy, Jim, I would be

1154
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 4: like rambling my head on like trying to gauge these.

1155
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:19,320
Speaker 5: Guys get I get what I get with Logan is

1156
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 5: saying though, because he's saying, basically, if there was the

1157
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:27,840
Speaker 5: case that Jaden and your boy May yeah was amongst.

1158
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 3: Just everybody else, Yeah, then you have a you have

1159
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 3: a you have a decision to make.

1160
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 5: But he feels that it does, it does fall off

1161
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 5: somewhere beyond those three guys, you know what I'm saying, Like,

1162
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 5: it's not like McCarthy and Jaden and May, and in.

1163
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 3: The same I feel like McCarthy.

1164
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 2: Is so for me, y'all, I think to like, just

1165
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 2: clean that up. So I think it's I think Jayden

1166
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 2: May and then McCarthy, but I think they're close. And

1167
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 2: I think to Fred's point, it's kind of how you

1168
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:54,279
Speaker 2: look at each one. And we've talked about this a

1169
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 2: lot on the Ticket of the Draft podcast. Makes you

1170
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 2: check that out. Fred, just a great job on that.

1171
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 2: But it's they all kind of depending on how you

1172
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 2: look at it. They're gonna have their pro they're gonna

1173
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 2: have their cons. And I think that's why it's tough, right,

1174
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 2: That's why it's tough. That's why we talk to somebody

1175
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 2: they're like, oh, I love Drake May. He's the number

1176
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 2: two guy. Then you talk to someone else like that

1177
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 2: guy's crazy, it's genious. And I think that because they

1178
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 2: all are very talent, but they all have their warts.

1179
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:18,879
Speaker 2: And then when I look at like Pennix and Knicks,

1180
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 2: there are some issues there too, but I think they're

1181
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 2: just a little bit below and it's and again, do

1182
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 2: you think you can win games with those guys? I

1183
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 2: don't know, but I again, if you could trade out

1184
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 2: of that spot, I think it'd be great. But I

1185
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 2: do think that it's a risk if you're not going

1186
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:33,359
Speaker 2: to get a game changer at the position, or someone

1187
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 2: that just perceived to be a game changer, because, like

1188
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 2: we've talked about a lot on the show, it's about

1189
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 2: the environment that they're going to and can you help

1190
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,320
Speaker 2: that guy grow into the player you think he can be?

1191
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 5: And then it's all too I think too, when you're

1192
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:46,320
Speaker 5: already looking at some of these guys, it's all about placement.

1193
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 5: What type of offense are do you see these guys

1194
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 5: being effective with?

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00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Like you got a Knicks,

1196
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 3: you got a Penix. I mean, who man?

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00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 5: When you watch this guy play in college, he was

1198
00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 5: precise when it came to spotting the ball in places

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Speaker 5: down the deep downfield, like he threw balls, like he

1200
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 5: was just like, all right, I'm going to put in

1201
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 5: your back shoulder bank, you know, all right, you got

1202
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 5: a guy covering. You don't going to put it in

1203
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 5: front of both of y'alls, so you don't only have

1204
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 5: a chance.

1205
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 3: So and it's crazy. I was watching something and the.

1206
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 5: Guy spoke some crazy stuff about getting rid of Tour

1207
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 5: and putting him as a quarterback for the Dolphins, and

1208
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 5: everybody was like, what Tour is the same guy.

1209
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 3: He does the same thing.

1210
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 5: He's a he's a guy at one, two, three, ball out.

1211
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 5: But he was saying, this guy does it better. So

1212
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 5: to me, I feel like you have these teams now,

1213
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 5: especially with these offenses that we you know, kind of

1214
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:34,320
Speaker 5: starting to like these last few years. If a quarterback

1215
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 5: fits what you do, then that's your guy. You see

1216
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 5: what I'm saying. So I think it's all about placement too, that.

1217
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 2: Same stylistically, Yeah, yeah, absolutely so And again so okay,

1218
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 2: so we talked about the opportunity they stick and pick

1219
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:46,840
Speaker 2: it too. They opportunity that So now this is this

1220
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 2: is an interesting question, subtly different, but I think it's

1221
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 2: important to talk about the percentage that they take Jane

1222
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 2: Daniels or Drake May or another quarterback, Like, how would

1223
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 2: you wait that going down? This is this is a

1224
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:01,360
Speaker 2: hard question. More of that you I've been mister May's

1225
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 2: biggest fan, So.

1226
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 1: J percentage, give me a percentage.

1227
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 3: It's it's starting to with the other way.

1228
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 4: Like, so right now, I'm gonna say a fifty to

1229
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 4: fifty chance I feel like Drake May is drafted, and

1230
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:18,280
Speaker 4: I feel like a sixty percent chance that Jayde.

1231
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 1: Dan Is is drafted.

1232
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 3: That's what I'm meant on.

1233
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:22,320
Speaker 1: The so as you said, so if it's out of

1234
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 1: one hundred, so you.

1235
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:28,799
Speaker 3: Can't that's like I went one because hundred I put

1236
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 3: one hundred and ten every time I do something.

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00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:33,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, So like I'm gonna try and do the math here.

1238
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:35,479
Speaker 2: So you're saying there's like a thirty five percent chance

1239
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 2: that Jaden's drafted, a thirty percent chance that Drake May

1240
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 2: is drafted, and then that leaves you.

1241
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 1: Twenty five percent chance that it's another guy.

1242
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 4: It's another guy, but I'm leaning towards Jayane Dane.

1243
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 5: So if they stayed at two, yeah, you know, I

1244
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 5: just told you it's a fifty percent chance they can move.

1245
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:49,919
Speaker 3: I don't.

1246
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 5: I don't know who am I to tell you that,

1247
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 5: But I'm just saying it's a possibility. But if they

1248
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 5: stay at too, I think it's sixty forty Jayden forty

1249
00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 5: sixty Jayden forty percent.

1250
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Speaker 3: May you know what I'm saying.

1251
00:48:59,880 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 5: I just feel like, if they're gonna stay at two,

1252
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 5: Jada should be they guy.

1253
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 3: But chance that it could be made, you know what

1254
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:06,359
Speaker 3: I mean?

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00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:09,360
Speaker 2: So, like you said, maybe stylistically think or maybe they

1256
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 2: have a good interview. Maybe, but it's pro day, maybe

1257
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:11,840
Speaker 2: like his leadership.

1258
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:14,720
Speaker 3: Maybe at last day, that last dinner suit it for somebody.

1259
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:17,919
Speaker 2: You know, it's crazy you hear stories about that all

1260
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:21,359
Speaker 2: the time, like of like oh, like just we had

1261
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 2: a dinner and the thing was Sean McVay when he

1262
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 2: got hired in LA it's the biggest decision for this franchise.

1263
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:29,359
Speaker 2: And Marshall Falk had an hour dinner with him, called

1264
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 2: the owner and said, this is a guy that was

1265
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 2: the lynch pin.

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00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:33,839
Speaker 1: That let it all fall through.

1267
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 2: So who is that guy in this process that says

1268
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:39,880
Speaker 2: this is the guy? Yeah, And I honestly can't wait

1269
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 2: to find out. And we talked more about this on

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