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Speaker 1: If you would like to have us answer your questions.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back for an episode of You Got Decisions. Today,

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Speaker 1: I'm actually going to be discussing No Holds Barred with

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Speaker 1: back and make sure you pre order this book. Mandy

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Speaker 1: that took me on a ride. Yes, And I love

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Speaker 1: hearing that.

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Speaker 3: Yes, that's what good writing does.

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Speaker 1: And thank you so much for even just being on

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Speaker 1: the ride, because I know I don't believe I think

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Speaker 1: separately we may be great to work with, but as

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Speaker 1: a duo sometimes it's so much to hear at once,

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Speaker 1: so many different opinions, a lot of energy, and I'm

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Speaker 1: really grateful that like you were able to give your

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Speaker 1: best version to us every single time.

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Speaker 3: I love working with you both, and I like if

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Speaker 3: I don't get to work with different kinds of people

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Speaker 3: on board, so it's lovely to work with different.

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Speaker 1: What the fuck did that mean? I got the crazy

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Speaker 1: so I had fun?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, basically I used to be a hip hop manager,

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Speaker 3: so you know you guys easy easy breezy.

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Speaker 1: Really yes, thank you, So buy volume one now. We

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Speaker 1: got so many volumes pre ordered, no holds bart. It's

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Speaker 1: really important to us to get pre orders in so

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Speaker 1: please support the links in this description. And also, like

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Speaker 1: Tempest said in our episode, keep the receipts because they

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Speaker 1: me we got some shit coming up.

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Speaker 3: Me.

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Speaker 1: You ain't got the receeat bit. You ain't gonna get in.

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Speaker 3: You ain't gonna get it, you ain't getting into the

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Speaker 3: all the free stuff, all magic.

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Speaker 1: And one person that pre order is gonna have sex

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Speaker 1: with me. I'm just kidding. Wait what, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I might throw it in there, might for fun. I

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Speaker 1: know fans have fucked me. That's part of the stories.

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Speaker 1: Let's see what happens to keep your recite bye. What

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Speaker 1: we gotta get the wars that's depend

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