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Speaker 1: Hello everyone, Goodmorrow. I'm James Palmer. With me is Steve Weisch.

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Speaker 2: This is the NFL Report, where we're gonna dissect the

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Speaker 2: biggest storylines across the NFL. But maybe more importantly, Steve,

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Speaker 2: we are going to discuss the storylines and topics that

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Speaker 2: maybe are getting overlooked.

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Speaker 1: Today.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna have Bridget Condon, We're gonna have Omar Ruiz,

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Speaker 2: We're gonna have Alonzo Highsmith with us, a former personnel

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Speaker 2: executive around the NFL. Pull back the curtain a little bit,

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Speaker 2: if you will, on what happens within NFL buildings during cutdowns.

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Speaker 2: Now here's the best part, Steve. We are versatile. We're

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Speaker 2: like Dion Sanders. We are not only a podcast with

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Speaker 2: NFL Report, we are also streaming on the NFL channel,

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Speaker 2: on to Be, on Roku, on Peacock, what else, Pluto,

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Speaker 2: all of those spots wherever you stream your television, look

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Speaker 2: for the NFL channel Mondays and Thursdays at seven fifteen.

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Speaker 2: So this is also a podcast twice a week, Steve,

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Speaker 2: and this is number one for us. Well, let's I'll

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Speaker 2: stop promoting us. I'll stop that. Everybody's gonna watch. Anyways,

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Speaker 2: Let's get right into it, and Chris Ballard, the Colts

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Speaker 2: general manager, saying, pretty much, Steve, what all of us

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Speaker 2: have been saying to one another privately about the situation

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Speaker 2: with their star running back Jonathan Taylor.

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Speaker 1: Take a listen, I.

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Speaker 3: Mean the situation. I'm not going to sit here and

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Speaker 3: give you some rosy picture like, oh, this is just

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Speaker 3: everything's okay.

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Speaker 4: No, it sucks.

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Speaker 3: It sucks for the Colts, It sucks for Jonathan Taylor,

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Speaker 3: and it sucks for our fans. It just it does,

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Speaker 3: and it's it's where we're at, and we've got to

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Speaker 3: work through it, and we're gonna do everything we can

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Speaker 3: to work through it. Relationships are repairable, They're repairable, Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Jap, I don't know if this relationship is repaarable.

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Speaker 1: First of all, I love the honesty.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I like, like it sucks, but what if?

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Speaker 5: What like? What have you ever heard of management in

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Speaker 5: any sport?

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Speaker 6: I've covered the NBA, I have covered collegiate football, I've

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Speaker 6: covered the NFL three years. A manager giveaway any leverage

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Speaker 6: by getting to the emotional point saying this sucks. We

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Speaker 6: don't hear it, so now it sucks for our fans.

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Speaker 5: It sucks. For us. It probably sucks for.

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Speaker 6: Him because he's the guy trying to negotiate a way

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Speaker 6: to get his star player back on the field. You

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Speaker 6: have your owner and Jim ersay a couple of weeks ago,

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Speaker 6: after a very public meeting in the trailer at training camp,

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Speaker 6: come out and basically say, yeah, we're not paying him.

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Speaker 6: After Anthony Rich, I'm sorry, after Jonathan Taylor, seems like

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Speaker 6: he went in there thinking that maybe they could work

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Speaker 6: something out. So now you've got all this collateral damage

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Speaker 6: and this is this is not good. Now they placed

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Speaker 6: him on pup JP right, saying that the ankle hasn't

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Speaker 6: healed whatever, So they've got four games to work this out,

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Speaker 6: and they're still paying him.

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Speaker 5: Because he's on pup.

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Speaker 6: So maybe that's some type of ointment on this open wound.

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Speaker 6: But the fact that we are here this is one

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Speaker 6: of the most in all my years of doing this,

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Speaker 6: all these contract disputes, this one.

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Speaker 5: Feels so personal. I don't know if it can be repaired.

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Speaker 2: And what has happened Steve, each and every time this

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Speaker 2: is escalated in terms of emotion, It's almost been every

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Speaker 2: time Jim Mersey has made a comment one way or

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Speaker 2: the other, whether it be via Twitter sorry X, which

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Speaker 2: it's called now, or speaking to reporters and saying something publicly.

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Speaker 2: Because what we do have to remember, and I've been

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Speaker 2: in that building over the last couple of years. You've

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Speaker 2: been in that building over the last couple of years.

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Speaker 2: Jonathan Taylor has been a model citizen in that locker room,

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Speaker 2: a very well liked player in that locker room, and

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Speaker 2: has gone about his business during his rookie deal. You

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Speaker 2: would assume watching other players get paid, and that's what

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Speaker 2: you're thinking when you're a star player, thinking they're going

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Speaker 2: to take care of you as a homegrown talent. You've

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Speaker 2: seen Quentin Nelson get paid. You've seen name Heines got

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Speaker 2: a second contract out of the backfield with him as well,

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Speaker 2: now you're maybe the best player on this team, and

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Speaker 2: now you're told you're not getting an offer, any sort

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Speaker 2: of offer. And I think you have to remember he

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Speaker 2: the state of where all of them stand in terms

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Speaker 2: of their position. I think this is a loss of trust,

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Speaker 2: and you're right, how do you repair a relationship where

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Speaker 2: you feel like the trust is lost? Because the crux

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Speaker 2: of all this is one major topic. They believe he

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Speaker 2: is not healthy enough to play like he played in

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Speaker 2: out and do it. He wants to get paid before

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Speaker 2: he risks injury going out and doing it. Where do

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Speaker 2: you find a middle ground in that position?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and this is where it gets dicey because you

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Speaker 6: talked to posing coaches right now, they're like, I am

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Speaker 6: glad the cults are going through this because Jonathan Taylor's

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Speaker 6: a beast. You know, he's a top top three running

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Speaker 6: opposing coaches so they're loving seeing this chaos.

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Speaker 5: But you know, you talk about a lack of trust.

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Speaker 5: And now we've got the.

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Speaker 6: Medical issue as well, JPE. Because let's say the four

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Speaker 6: games go, when the he comes off of pop, medical

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Speaker 6: staff says he's clear, he's medically cleared, he says, I

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Speaker 6: have my doctor who says I'm not okay. Then you

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Speaker 6: also bring the medical group in his collateral damage. It

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Speaker 6: gets real ugly, but we're gonna move on from this

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Speaker 6: because we've got another medical situation and potential contract situation

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Speaker 6: brewing in Cincinnati.

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Speaker 5: And for that j p Let's also bringing our Bridget.

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Speaker 6: Condon, who spent a couple of days up at training

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Speaker 5: Bridget, you're coming in. We are talking about quarterback Joe.

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Speaker 6: Burrow shows up on the practice field on Tuesday, comes

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Speaker 6: out and practices Wednesday. Head co Zach Taylor says, it

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Speaker 6: doesn't look like he's missed any practice at all with

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Speaker 5: Injury that kept him out.

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Speaker 6: What is the latest you can tell us about his

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Speaker 6: situation medically and then contractually.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't think anyone was surprised to see Joe

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Speaker 7: Burrow on the practice field. You know, his head coach

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Speaker 7: saying he hasn't missed a beat, his teammates saying that

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Speaker 7: he brought an extra spark out to practice. When I

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Speaker 7: of saw him in street clothes, he had that bucket hat,

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Speaker 7: just kind of watching practice and at that point you

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Speaker 7: really get into focusing on week one. It seems like

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Speaker 7: the natural progression of that injury. I know there's a

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Speaker 7: lot of talk about has he been you know, kind

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Speaker 7: But I think there's a lot that we have to

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Speaker 7: dissect here with Joe Burrow, and I want you guys

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Speaker 7: to chime in here. But the best thing and maybe

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Speaker 7: even I don't know, more trendy than him being back

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Speaker 7: on the practice field. Did you guys see his Instagram

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Speaker 7: story of him in the lebron James Cass jersey and

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Speaker 7: it said, Okay, I don't know, are you guys familiar

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Speaker 7: with snapchat? I feel like maybe not.

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Speaker 5: That's all you.

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Speaker 7: So it's definitely a snapchat like you're it's definitely but

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Speaker 7: in high school. Come on, guys, it's definitely a Snapchat

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Speaker 7: mirror picture because you can just tell with the like

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Speaker 7: the graphic that says we're back or he's back.

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Speaker 1: It's definitely like an old picture.

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Speaker 7: But he posted it on his Instagram story to let

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Speaker 7: everybody know he's back. This is a guy that he's

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Speaker 7: a lot of fun to be around. His teammates like him.

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Speaker 7: He has that swagger that we always talk about. I

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Speaker 7: think there is no question in anybody's mind in the

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Speaker 7: building that a deal is going to get done before

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Speaker 7: the season starts.

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Speaker 2: It's just when.

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Speaker 7: And I think, you know, we could come down today,

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Speaker 7: it could come down tomorrow. I think everybody's kind of

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Speaker 7: on the edge of their seat. We also have to remember,

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Speaker 7: the same agent that's doing his deal is the one

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Speaker 7: doing Nick Bosas, So a busy next two weeks for

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Speaker 7: you know, both of them.

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Speaker 2: I think we're seeing bridget Honestly, this seems just by

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Speaker 2: watching it go down from when in the spring Joe

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Speaker 2: Burrows talking about I think I've made it abundantly clear

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Speaker 2: what I think I'm worth and what i think I'm

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Speaker 2: worth getting. It's been pretty amicable. I do think both

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Speaker 2: sides are very tough in terms of negotiations. The Brangles

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Speaker 2: have never been pushed over Steve over the years by

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Speaker 2: any stretch. But I'm curious on how this contract is

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Speaker 2: going to be structured, because really, if you think about it,

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Speaker 2: it's Patrick Mahomes and the next best player we all

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Speaker 2: say is Joe Burrow. I think the gap is probably

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Speaker 2: closer than maybe some other people believe. How does he

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Speaker 2: structure this contract? How creative. Are they maybe having to

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Speaker 2: be steve during this contract negotiations if Joe Burrow, who

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Speaker 2: has made it clear he wants to keep this group

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Speaker 2: be able to structure his contract to where he can

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Speaker 2: keep a lot of talent around him. You have one

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Speaker 2: of your top receivers and t Higgins that has also

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Speaker 2: due a new deal. Jamar Chase is already on the

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Speaker 2: horizon in a sense, and that's just the guys he

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Speaker 2: throws the football to. There's a lot of other positions

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Speaker 2: Joe Burrow structures this contract because I do think he

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Speaker 2: looks at success similarly to Pat Mahomes. I think this

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Speaker 2: will be a record breaking deal, but I do think

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Speaker 2: there's some creativity that's going on behind closed doors.

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Speaker 6: Right And you nailed JP and he said, I think

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Speaker 6: he looks at success the same way. That's why he's

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Speaker 6: out there on that practice field right now. And you

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Speaker 6: know there was video of him. He's not wearing a

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Speaker 6: sleeve or anything on that calf. He's wearing like everything

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Speaker 6: is good to go. So he's a football player. He

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Speaker 6: wants to be out there competing with his teammates. But

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Speaker 6: the structure is important. And to your point about Mahomes,

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Speaker 6: he didn't take a ton of cash over the first

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Speaker 6: three years. You have a lot of people saying, what

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Speaker 6: is this guy doing to backload a deal like this

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Speaker 6: in case he gets hurt. There is a potential trust issue.

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Speaker 6: There's a potential renegotiation there for Mahomes. But let's look

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Speaker 6: at how the market is laid out this offseason. Lamar

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Speaker 6: Jackson five years two hundred and sixty million, Jalen Hurts

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Speaker 6: five years two hundred and sixty two million with a

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Speaker 6: no trade clause. Right, So these are the parameters to

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Speaker 6: get a deal done. So you're gonna see the yearly

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Speaker 6: average and everything be similar to those three. It is

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Speaker 6: going to be the structure to see if they can

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Speaker 6: keep the team together. But Bridge, I want to get

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Speaker 6: back to you. You know you heard me say that

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Speaker 6: Joey b didn't have the sleeve on. He's out there

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Speaker 6: wanting to play football. The risk of stepping out on

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Speaker 6: that field and reaggravating that thing. Do you think there's

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Speaker 6: a bond enough with that organization which has been tight

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Speaker 6: with money up probably too the last five years in

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Speaker 6: Joe Burrow to take care of him even if he

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Speaker 5: Bo great stuff, really really good points quick.

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Speaker 2: I'll say this, The Bengals are not going to put

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Speaker 5: Sure, sure you know you don't think they're gonna make.

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Speaker 6: We're also gonna be joined a little bit later by

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Speaker 6: My great respect for Gil Brandt comes because of his.

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Speaker 1: We have to strike the right mix of urgency. I

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Speaker 2: I don't like not having one of our best players here.

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Speaker 8: No, it's going pretty much exactly how I expected it

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Speaker 5: That's so now it's kind of just been exactly what

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Speaker 9: You can imagine this team not having him on the

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Speaker 8: that picture, of course. Now, you guys know how we

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Speaker 2: This is the guy that addresses our team every Saturday

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Speaker 1: We miss him and looking forward to the day he's

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Speaker 2: I just want to sack the quarterback, dude.

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Speaker 1: All right, welcome back.

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Speaker 2: That was Eric Armstead, John Lynch, Kyle Shanahan, all members

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Speaker 2: I'm excited to hear Omar Rowiz drop a couple of

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Speaker 9: Omar Well to borrow from Nick Bosa's sack dance celebration.

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Speaker 9: I don't know, Nick, And this contract negotiation dragging on

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Speaker 5: But I'll also say this, and this is just years

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Speaker 6: I'm dealing with a lot of these types of contract situations.

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Speaker 6: Watt twenty eight mil per year, eighty fully guaranteed, Joey

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Speaker 5: Always the number.

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Speaker 6: And the fact also you're hearing the way that Lynch

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Speaker 5: They're not saying, oh, this sucks. They're keeping a.

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Speaker 2: And that's the way they they have take care of

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Speaker 2: They've taken care of guys like Deebo Samuel, They've taken

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Speaker 1: Would you trade Nick Bosa? No, that's not happening.

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Speaker 2: He's the best defensive player in money people's minds in

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Speaker 2: So that is a situation where he's getting fined regularly.

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Speaker 2: Omar about one point eight million dollars already missed. And

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Speaker 2: Why didn't you just have a hold in. Why didn't

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Speaker 5: Yeah, look, I mean it is interesting. But let's piggyback

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Speaker 6: Correct Poe's Nick Bosa comes in in thirty million a year.

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Speaker 5: Now the Chiefs are like, holy hell, we're not gonna

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Speaker 6: But you know, is the interior where Aaron Donald's making

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Speaker 5: You know?

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Speaker 5: It's Chris Jones holdout Omar Well.

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Speaker 9: think it's the same thing with Chris Jones as good

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Speaker 9: as Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid. Are Chris Jones the

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Speaker 9: centerpiece of that defense, making them a super Bowl caliber

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Speaker 9: championship defense. And I think his representatives know that, just

443
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Speaker 9: like you said, Steve seventh round quarterback, rookie quarterback going

444
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Speaker 9: into the second year with the forty nine ers, Nick

445
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Speaker 9: Bosa's agents know that as well, just like Chris Jones's

446
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Speaker 9: agents know that. You know, he is needed in the

447
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Speaker 9: middle of that Chiefs defense, and you know, if this

448
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Speaker 9: is what they have to deal with the start this season,

449
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Speaker 9: it's gonna be things like this. I think that might

450
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Speaker 9: you know, that could derail the Chiefs. I think I

451
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Speaker 9: think we're all bullish on Kansas City this year. I

452
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Speaker 9: mean I know personally, I feel as strongly about them

453
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Speaker 9: repeating this year as any team since I've been covering

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Speaker 9: the NFL. When you go back to looking how Mahomes

455
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Speaker 9: adjusted to the new look receiving cores and then you

456
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Speaker 9: had the six rookies playing significant snaps on defense last

457
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Speaker 9: year and they're only going to grow. But at the

458
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Speaker 9: center of it all is Chris Jones, and I think,

459
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Speaker 9: you know, it's a matter of time before he gets

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Speaker 9: in but yeah, little Sweaty in Santa Clair in Kansas

461
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Speaker 9: City right now.

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Speaker 5: Gotta like it.

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Speaker 6: Man to two two likely Super Bowl contenders, I gets

464
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Speaker 6: their best defensive lineman in there. Guys, we're gonna button

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Speaker 6: this up right now because our special guest.

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Speaker 5: Is waiting on hold.

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Speaker 6: Remember, guys, we are two days away from rosters being

468
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Speaker 6: cut to the fifty three practice squads being made, guys

469
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Speaker 6: getting stashed, teams only keeping one quarterback on the ad

470
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Speaker 6: active roster. Coming up next, Alonzo Heighsmith is going to

471
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Speaker 6: tell us how the rosters as made. Alright back at

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Speaker 6: the NFL reports the White Cheer James Palmer. Now we're

473
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Speaker 6: joined by our special guest, Alonzo high Smith, the number

474
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Speaker 6: three overall pick the Houston Oilers in nineteen eighty seven,

475
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Speaker 6: long time NFL personnel exec and now the general manager

476
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Speaker 6: of the University of Miami football team.

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Speaker 5: Soh thanks so much for joining us.

478
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Speaker 4: Man, Hey, thank you for being on and enjoy watching

479
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Speaker 4: you guys every day on television. So it's probably one

480
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Speaker 4: of the things I really enjoyed the most being in

481
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Speaker 4: college football is having an opportunity to sit back and

482
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Speaker 4: watch the whole NFL listening to your stories, reports on

483
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Speaker 4: what's going on around the league, and I'm not too

484
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Speaker 4: far removed from the league, so I understand a lot

485
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Speaker 4: of the things that are going on.

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Speaker 6: That's why we have you here though, That's why we

487
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Speaker 6: have you here for first off, general manager of a

488
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Speaker 6: collegiate program.

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Speaker 5: Like, what is that? That seems like a very interesting title.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think mine's is really a unique situation. Having

491
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Speaker 4: played at University of Miami, understanding the city of Miami,

492
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Speaker 4: understanding the culture. I wouldn't say there's a real GM

493
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Speaker 4: in college football because that's the head coach. The head coaches,

494
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Speaker 4: you know, he basically runs the program the way he

495
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Speaker 4: wants to run, and all you're trying to do is

496
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Speaker 4: is be an ear for him. One of the greatest

497
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Speaker 4: things I really enjoyed doing is talking to the players.

498
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Speaker 4: You know, I have such a different perspective of college

499
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Speaker 4: football being in it now, for athletes and understanding what

500
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Speaker 4: they go through to play college football. It's much different

501
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Speaker 4: than when I played college football. Social media, time consumption,

502
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Speaker 4: there's so many things that involved compared to when I played.

503
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Speaker 4: You know, I have a real appreciation for these kids

504
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Speaker 4: and understanding where they're trying to get to and I

505
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Speaker 4: try and use my knowledge of being where they want

506
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Speaker 4: to go to give them good advice. And you know,

507
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Speaker 4: I enjoy when they come in my room. And you know,

508
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Speaker 4: we've got some young running backs and they came in

509
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Speaker 4: my room and they were talking about football, and I said, hey,

510
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Speaker 4: let's put up some great backs on YouTube and watch

511
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Speaker 4: and just and to sit there and watch them. I

512
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Speaker 4: put up Nick Schubb, of.

513
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Speaker 5: Course, who drafted.

514
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Speaker 4: Brandon Brandon, Brandon Jacobs and some other backs. So just

515
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Speaker 4: getting them to understand the expectations and where their dreams

516
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Speaker 4: want to go. These these this is the process you're

517
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Speaker 4: going to have to follow. So that's one of the

518
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Speaker 4: things I really enjoy about being back at University of Miami.

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Speaker 2: Well, listen, I want to talk about these teams that

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Speaker 2: you used to be with Elizawa and the Packers, the Browns,

521
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Speaker 2: the Seahawks. What was the process during the week in

522
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Speaker 2: the years past that we just went through in the

523
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Speaker 2: NFL in terms of cutdown? What was the preparation Because

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Speaker 2: I'm curious. Everybody knows what's going on in usually in

525
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Speaker 2: your own building, but when you're looking at the thirty

526
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Speaker 2: one other teams, what is the process that would go

527
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Speaker 2: into that and making sure you were prepared to steal

528
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Speaker 2: somebody from somebody else's squad.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think it all boils down basically to the

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Speaker 4: foundation of your organization. At the Cleveland I'm sorry, at

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Speaker 4: the Green Bay Packers, in the Seattle Seahawks, it's about

532
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Speaker 4: building through the draft. It's about young players. And Ted

533
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Speaker 4: Thompson and Ron Wolf were really big on the back

534
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Speaker 4: end of roster. You're always trying to improve the back

535
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Speaker 4: end of the roster with young, more talented players, and

536
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Speaker 4: you know, and that's one of the things we really

537
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Speaker 4: concentrated on because we weren't a team that was going

538
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Speaker 4: to go out and sign the twenty million dollars corner

539
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Speaker 4: or that big defensive end. So it was about drafting

540
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Speaker 4: precisely for your team and understanding the league and what's

541
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Speaker 4: out there. So when these cutdown days come out, with

542
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Speaker 4: your scouts involved, all your player personnel people involved, you're

543
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Speaker 4: scouring through the NFL on cutdown day to find that

544
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Speaker 4: one diamond, to find some guys who can improve the

545
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Speaker 4: back end of your roster.

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Speaker 6: So, you know, when I look at you know some

547
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Speaker 6: things that happened in the NFL joint practices is one Zoe.

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Speaker 6: And you know, a lot of coaches love the joint

549
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Speaker 6: practice controlled environment. But when I go to joint practices,

550
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Speaker 6: I see personnel guys looking at every other team's individual

551
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Speaker 6: drills all that person like, how much of these joint

552
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Speaker 6: practices factor and to you guys getting a good read

553
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Speaker 6: on talent, like, hey, if this corner becomes available, really

554
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Speaker 6: want to go get him, or we really like this

555
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Speaker 6: guy here, or they may want to stash one of

556
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Speaker 6: our guys because they're looking at our guys just like

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Speaker 6: we're looking at theirs.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it's a huge factor because when you're have

559
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Speaker 4: an opportunity to see the other team up in personal

560
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,159
Speaker 4: you're able to dig back into your college reports on

561
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Speaker 4: players and you know what, maybe you don't get that

562
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Speaker 4: player now, Maybe you get him in a trade six

563
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Speaker 4: months later. Maybe you get him in a trade in

564
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Speaker 4: the off season where they release him in the off season.

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Speaker 4: Maybe you get that player in his second contract. You

566
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Speaker 4: had an opportunity to really watch them, your scouts really

567
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Speaker 4: liked them in college, but because of the draft, you

568
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Speaker 4: weren't able to get them. So you can use those

569
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Speaker 4: joint practices in many ways to benefit your team. You know,

570
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Speaker 4: there could be a kid that you think you're looking

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Speaker 4: at that you're looking at their depth chart and you

572
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Speaker 4: know there's five dbs that are going to make their

573
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Speaker 4: team based on what you're watching. There's this kid we

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Speaker 4: really liked in college, and we might have had a

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Speaker 4: fifth round grade on him, a sixth round grade on

576
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Speaker 4: and he doesn't get drafted. Well, he's a free agent

577
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Speaker 4: for that team. So you're thinking in your mind, oh, man,

578
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Speaker 4: I really like this kid and we liked them as

579
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Speaker 4: a group as an organization, we're getting ready for the draft.

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Speaker 4: We didn't have the fifth or sixth round pick. If

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Speaker 4: they released this kid, we're going to immediately jump on him.

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Speaker 4: And that's why you get scouts involved. You go back

583
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Speaker 4: to what you saw in college when you're looking at

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Speaker 4: young players. So there's an opportunity for you to make

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Speaker 4: your team better at proving the back end of the roster.

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Speaker 6: Joe Quickly's a guy like Tremont Williams like that because

587
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Speaker 6: I think he was a six round pick for Houston.

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Speaker 5: Got let go, you guys have him and turn him

589
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Speaker 5: too a Pro Bowl corner.

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Speaker 4: Well, the thing about Tremone was I loved him in college.

591
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Speaker 4: I had a good grade on him. I think we

592
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Speaker 4: liked him as an organization, but those things happened weren't.

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Speaker 4: We didn't draft him, and he went through the circuit

594
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Speaker 4: after the draft. After the draft, he didn't get signed

595
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Speaker 4: by anybody. He was hanging out and we had an

596
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Speaker 4: opportunity because of our grades from college to bring him

597
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Speaker 4: in and worked out. We put him on a practice squad,

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Speaker 4: and the rest is history. The same thing can be

599
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Speaker 4: said about Sam Shields. The same thing can be said

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Speaker 4: about Chris Banjo. These type of kids who who we liked.

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Speaker 4: They had the athletic trace that had he They had

602
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Speaker 4: all those sorts of things, and then there on the street,

603
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Speaker 4: you have an opportunity to sign these guys and they

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Speaker 4: become valuable members of your team.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm always curious about this, and as opposed to

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Speaker 2: getting somebody from another team, how about the process? We

607
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Speaker 2: always talk about it, but I'm curious how it happens

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Speaker 2: hiding a guy on your team essentially, you know what

609
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Speaker 2: I mean, like where you don't want to see him

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Speaker 2: play in the preseason for the rest of the league

611
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Speaker 2: to see him, so you can put him on your

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Speaker 2: practice But give me exactly how that process happens. And

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Speaker 2: how an organization goes about maybe a guy hiding him

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Speaker 2: that they want to develop.

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Speaker 4: Well, first of all, it's really hard to hide somebody

616
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Speaker 4: because of the information out there, Like all thirty one

617
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Speaker 4: teams have the same information we have about that player.

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Speaker 4: Is probably more of a based on a perception on

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Speaker 4: how you see that player and how you see how

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Speaker 4: he fits on your team, and those sorts of things,

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Speaker 4: and how all the other teams see that player. Maybe

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Speaker 4: he gets hurt in the preseason and he only plays

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Speaker 4: one game. Well, as a team, looking at your team,

624
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Speaker 4: you go, well, they're gonna try and sneak this guy

625
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Speaker 4: on the practice squad, and it's really hard to pull

626
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Speaker 4: players from another team's practice squad once those practice squads

627
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Speaker 4: are set, So you may wait for him to get

628
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Speaker 4: released and boom, you jump on him, Michael Hawk, and

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Speaker 4: now he's your property. So you know, those are the

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Speaker 4: things that go into players. I can think of a

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Speaker 4: player every year I thought was gonna get cut at

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Speaker 4: at the Minnesota Vikings, Adam Thielen. I really liked him.

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Speaker 4: He was came from a small school and watching tape,

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Speaker 4: watching their scrimmages, I mean, watching their preseason games and

635
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Speaker 4: things like that, and I go, man, when they cut

636
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Speaker 4: this guy, we're gonna jump on him. Well lo and behold,

637
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Speaker 4: he never gets cut. He becomes who he is in

638
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Speaker 4: the league. And those things go on every day. You

639
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Speaker 4: have to remember in the personnel apartment, everyone's responsible for teams.

640
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Speaker 4: Everybody's writing reports about all the practice squad players. So

641
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Speaker 4: when the cutdown days it does come, you're prepared for.

642
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Speaker 4: You know all these players, your scouts know these players.

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Speaker 4: When I was in Green Bay, Reggie McKenzie would call

644
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Speaker 4: me a Ron Woolford, Ted Thompson would call me a

645
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Speaker 4: Byt a player. After cut down, they say you really

646
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Speaker 4: like this kid in college, And I'm like, yeah, I

647
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Speaker 4: really did like them. We should grab them, you know.

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Speaker 4: And and that's how that and that's how those relations start,

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Speaker 4: all right.

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Speaker 6: So we're gonna ask you to sit tight for just

651
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Speaker 6: a second, ago a quick break, and you're gonna come back.

652
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Speaker 6: We got a lot more of Alonzo Highsmith. Plus later

653
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Speaker 6: in the show, is Matthew Stafford and some of these

654
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Speaker 6: other quarterbacks are they too old to relate to some

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Speaker 6: of these.

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Speaker 5: Young wide receivers. What more on the NFL report, We come.

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Speaker 2: Back teach them a Lesson, Steve, Welcome back to the

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Speaker 2: NFL Report. We're with Alonzo Highsmith, the general manager of

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Speaker 2: the Miami Hurricanes, and we grilled you about all your

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Speaker 2: time as a personnel executive, Alonso, and and I'm curious

661
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Speaker 2: also when you're in the building every day, there's obviously

662
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Speaker 2: some hurt feelings between player and team when it comes

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Speaker 2: to contracts, when it comes to you know, not getting

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Speaker 2: the money they feel like they deserve. I know you're

665
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Speaker 2: following love the rest of us, this Jonathan Taylor situation.

666
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Speaker 2: How does one try to repair a relationship and move

667
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Speaker 2: forward when things become as public like they are in

668
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Speaker 2: Indianapolis right now.

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Speaker 4: Well, if it's all about money, I think it can

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Speaker 4: be repaired. Money has a way of curing a lot

671
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Speaker 4: of apples, and we all know that. I think the

672
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Speaker 4: problems become when it becomes personal, when there's attacks on

673
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Speaker 4: both sides to each other. That's when the relationship kind

674
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Speaker 4: of goes to sour and it's irreparable. So, you know,

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Speaker 4: I'm just hoping in his situation because he's a great talent.

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Speaker 4: It's unfortunate what people think about running backs these days,

677
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Speaker 4: the value of running backs. But I think this guy, especially,

678
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Speaker 4: he's a difference maker. The Colts are a better team

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Speaker 4: with him than without him. And I'm hoping if it

680
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Speaker 4: just comes to money, they finally say, you know what,

681
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Speaker 4: let's just pay the guy what he's worth, and I

682
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Speaker 4: think everyone will be happy at the end of the day.

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Speaker 6: So you're number three overall. Pick you were you were

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Speaker 6: a running back come out of college. Let's let's let's

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Speaker 6: hit on this. You talked early in the show about

686
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Speaker 6: young players coming to seek advice from me. You're you're

687
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Speaker 6: telling about running backs. Has anybody said, should I continue

688
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Speaker 6: playing this position because it's not no longer a big

689
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Speaker 6: money position in the NFL?

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Speaker 4: Well, you know what I thought about that, honestly, And

691
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Speaker 4: you know, in today's football, if I was a six '

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Speaker 4: to one, two and thirty five pounds kid that played

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Speaker 4: running back and linebacker, I'd probably stick to linebacker. I

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Speaker 4: longevity the perception of the position, you know, I think

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Speaker 4: you know, when people look at the running back position today,

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Speaker 4: they look at the teams that are winning Super Bowls,

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Speaker 4: they say, well, they didn't have a great running back,

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Speaker 4: and then you see guys get hurt. The running back

699
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Speaker 4: position doesn't last very long. So if I'm a young kid,

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Speaker 4: I may make that move. I think there's a perfect

701
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Speaker 4: example of that. DJ Williams won the number one recruited

702
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Speaker 4: kids in the nation at the University of Miami his

703
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Speaker 4: first year. They moved in the running back and then

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Speaker 4: he switched back to the linebacker and the rest is history.

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Speaker 4: You know, he's a first round draft pick Denver, Broncos

706
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Speaker 4: and all that kind of stuff. So, you know what,

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Speaker 4: that is something to think about, and I've often thought

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Speaker 4: about that.

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Speaker 2: Well, Eliza, everybody wants to play quarterback because we're talking

710
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Speaker 2: about getting paid. That's where That's where you get paid,

711
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Speaker 2: is playing quarterback in the NFL. But we're seeing just

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Speaker 2: now in San Francisco a huge swing and a miss. Essentially,

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Speaker 2: it seems right now. I know it's early and it's

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Speaker 2: a small sample size with Trey Lance, but what is

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Speaker 2: it that makes evaluating the quarterback position so difficult?

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Speaker 1: I've seen you at a.

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Speaker 2: Number of We've talked of what comes into evaluating quarterbacks

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Speaker 2: and why is it so hard?

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Speaker 4: You know what, never has one position determine the fate

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Speaker 4: of so many men, that quarterback position. I think quarterback

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Speaker 4: is the hardest position in the history of sports. When

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Speaker 4: you look at the quarterback position, your defense depends on you,

723
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Speaker 4: your offense depends on you, the organization depends on you,

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Speaker 4: the fans depending depend on you. You are the emperor

725
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Speaker 4: the quarterback position, and if you're good at it, you'll

726
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Speaker 4: be treated like the emperor. But if you're not good

727
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Speaker 4: at it, they'll kick you to the curve, throw you aside,

728
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Speaker 4: and it sets the organization back. Sometimes. That's how important

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Speaker 4: that position is, and that's why they get paid the

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Speaker 4: most money and they're the most viable, I mean, and

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Speaker 4: that's the thing that's interesting about the quarterback position. You

732
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Speaker 4: don't know where they're going to come from. They come

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Speaker 4: from everywhere. You look at Rock Perdy, you look at

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Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers getting to University of California, You look at

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Speaker 4: Josh Allen, not recruited out of high school. This list

736
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Speaker 4: goes on and on of these guys, and then you

737
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Speaker 4: have the guys who were a five star guy in

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Speaker 4: high school and all that kind of stuff. And I

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Speaker 4: can tell you this, evaluating high school players now at

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Speaker 4: the high school level and seeing these seeing these next

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Speaker 4: generation of quarterbacks, it's even harder because really, when you

742
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Speaker 4: see a kid, when you see a kid throw the

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Speaker 4: ball fifty five times in a game, he's seventy percent

744
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Speaker 4: completion ray four touchdowns, but he didn't throw a ball

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Speaker 4: over twelve yards. You know, there's so many different factors,

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Speaker 4: and I think the number one factor about the quarterback

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Speaker 4: position is these guys have it when even as a

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Speaker 4: young guy, you knew that guy had it. Was he

749
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Speaker 4: was maybe a little cocky, maybe was a little brash,

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Speaker 4: he was confident himself. The media didn't bother him. He

751
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Speaker 4: had a talented arm or, he had a talented mind

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Speaker 4: and had a tremendous work ethic. I think one of

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Speaker 4: the things you have to find out about the quarterback

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Speaker 4: position is what is his mindset and what is his

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Speaker 4: work ethic? Like does he if he's not going to

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Speaker 4: have the natural talents of the Aaron Rodgers and a

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Speaker 4: lot of things, he's going to have to have so

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Speaker 4: many other things. And the guys who have the talent

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00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 4: are gonna have to have will have to have the

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Speaker 4: other part of the game at one hundred percent to succeed.

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Speaker 4: So I mean, you look at look at Jackson at

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Speaker 4: the Ravens. A unique kid. He's unique in his own way.

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Speaker 4: He's a winner. All he does is win football games.

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Speaker 4: I had the opportunity to watch Jalen hurtson high school.

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Speaker 4: He was a winner. He went to Oklahoma, he was

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Speaker 4: a winner, went to Alabama, he was a winner. And

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Speaker 4: there was so many thoughts about him, whether it's a

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Speaker 4: false narrative or positive narrative that sometimes you don't know

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Speaker 4: what to believe. So you have to believe the talent.

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Speaker 4: I thought when Jalen Hurts went to the combine, he

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Speaker 4: threw the balls wall as any quarterback that was there.

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Speaker 4: He was he was six foot two, six ' one,

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Speaker 4: ran a four to six and I thought he had

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Speaker 4: a heck of a combine throwing the football. Now, what

775
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Speaker 4: happens in the quarterback position sometimes is you don't want

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Speaker 4: to believe what you see. Well, he played at Iowas,

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Speaker 4: he played at Iowa State. You know he didn't play

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Speaker 4: with a good team. There's so many narratives with that position.

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Speaker 4: That's why it's so hard. That's why it's so hard

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Speaker 4: to choose that guy.

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Speaker 6: Sometimes a lot of that that is that is why

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Speaker 6: we have you on the show because that is absolutely

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Speaker 6: fantastic evaluation. You know, you really peel back some layers

784
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Speaker 6: and some audience. Hey, bro, thanks so much for joining

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Speaker 6: us here on the NFL Report. You on our initial

786
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Speaker 6: podcas so you know you're leading things off for us.

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Speaker 5: Man. Good luck to you and really appreciate you.

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Speaker 4: All right, guys, take care.

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Speaker 6: All right, and when we come back, we're gonna talk

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Speaker 6: the age discrepancy.

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Speaker 5: Can older quarterback get along with his younger teammates? You

792
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:17,760
Speaker 5: got a lot coming ahead on the NFL.

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Speaker 6: We are back for the final block of the NFL Report.

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Speaker 6: James Palmer, what is going on in New England? I

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Speaker 6: know we've been asking that for a while, but when

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Speaker 6: you see cutdown date and Mac Jones is the only

797
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Speaker 6: active quarterback on the roster, what are we doing here?

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Speaker 2: It's unconventional, Steve, and I think we've seen unconventional from

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Speaker 2: Bill Belichick before. It was really just going out there

800
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Speaker 2: and exposing both these quarterbacks to waivers and then they

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00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 2: have ultimately come back to the practice squad in Bailey,

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Speaker 2: Zappy and U Cunningham. I'm looking at Cunningham going, I'm

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Speaker 2: looking at Cunningham going, Steve, like this is going to

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Speaker 2: be Jalen Hurts for the next several.

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Speaker 1: Days, right.

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Speaker 2: I believe they open up against the Philadelphia Eagles. This

807
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Speaker 2: is going to be Jalen Hurts in practice for the

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Speaker 2: next ten days roughly. I was surprised at how they

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Speaker 2: went about it, but Bill Belichick made sure everybody knew

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Speaker 2: and he said it very clearly. There's gonna be some

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Speaker 2: unontentional ways about how we go about this, but we're

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Speaker 2: gonna get back to, you know, our fifty three in

813
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Speaker 2: our practice cane on how we want it to be.

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Speaker 2: I know a lot of people have buzzed about Brian

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Speaker 2: Hoyer as a potential return.

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Speaker 1: To New England.

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Speaker 5: That is the first time that's.

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Speaker 2: Ever been saying number two job was Honestly, yeah, there was,

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Speaker 2: I'm serious, but I don't think I don't think there's.

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Speaker 2: The number two job with the Raiders was early up

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Speaker 2: for grabs by any means, but it made people's minds.

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Speaker 2: And my point of it was, it just made people's

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Speaker 2: minds go right, like, what's the thought here when they

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Speaker 2: were both waved in a sense.

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Speaker 6: Well, I'm telling you, if I'm an opponent, I'm claiming

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Speaker 6: both of those guys. So they go to a game

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Speaker 6: with only Mac Jones and we'll see how this great

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Speaker 6: strategy works out. Speaking of great strategies, and I need

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Speaker 6: some help with this. You got to being an omar

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Speaker 6: Ruiz and Bridge of Condon back onto the NFL report

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Speaker 6: as the elder statesman here, as someone who has sons

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Speaker 6: ages twenty seven through thirty, I have a hard time

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Speaker 6: relating them, relating to them a lot. I'm related to them,

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Speaker 6: but a hard time relating to them because you know,

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Speaker 6: it was a guy who at one point had to

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Speaker 6: get up and.

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Speaker 5: Turn the TV channel.

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Speaker 6: So Bridge and Condon as the real youth expert on

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Speaker 6: the show. You were out at the RAMS practice earlier

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Speaker 6: this week when there was a conversation Kelly Stafford, Matthew

841
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Speaker 6: Stafford's wife. I'm pretty sure she was joking when she said.

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Speaker 5: Matt so old. He can't he can't figure out these

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Speaker 5: young guys.

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Speaker 6: You know, he doesn't know how to play Yu gi

845
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Speaker 6: oh and all of these things that these guys are playing.

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Speaker 6: So let's chew on this little bit, Bridget, since you

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Speaker 6: were there, what's the conversation and actually, more importantly, what's

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Speaker 6: the dynamic?

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Speaker 7: Okay, I think this was blown way out of proportion.

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Speaker 7: Anybody who knew was Kelly Stafford, and I don't know

851
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Speaker 7: her personally, but I listened to her podcast, she jokes

852
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 7: a lot, and this one hundred percent was a joke.

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Speaker 7: Whether it's true or not, there is a little bit

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Speaker 7: of truth to it, But I don't think that causes

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Speaker 7: any concern. There's a difference right when you are even

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Speaker 7: between you and I were talking about snapchat earlier on

857
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Speaker 7: the podcast, and you enjoyed, were like, what Snapchat like,

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Speaker 7: I'm gonna get in trouble with my wife. You're not

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Speaker 7: going to get in trouble with your wife if you

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Speaker 7: use it in the right way. But seriously, it's a difference.

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Speaker 7: There is a difference in age, of course, and almost

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00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,919
Speaker 7: more like culture too, right. I think the younger kids

863
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Speaker 7: coming up because they grew up with TikTok, they grew

864
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Speaker 7: up with Snapchat, they grew up with phones at the

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Speaker 7: every second of their life, they operate a little differently.

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Speaker 7: But it's nothing to be said about, oh my god,

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Speaker 7: they're not going to be able to get along on

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Speaker 7: a football field together. I think that's where the out

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Speaker 7: of proportion came into play.

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 9: I think the broader point and all of this is

872
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:05,360
Speaker 9: that Matthew Stafford perhaps has to try a little harder

873
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:07,840
Speaker 9: now to relate to the players because they are in

874
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,800
Speaker 9: their phones. They're not playing ping pong, They're not sitting

875
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 9: around doing those bonding things like they normally would or

876
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 9: like they used to in the locker room in their downtime.

877
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 9: He has to actively go seek a guy, figure out,

878
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 9: you know, where he's from, strike up a conversation what

879
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 9: he did this weekend in order to get to know him.

880
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 9: So it just takes a little more planning for Stafford

881
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:32,800
Speaker 9: is what I read through Kelly Stafford's comments. Matthew Stafford

882
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 9: that is in having to exude that leadership in that

883
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:40,280
Speaker 9: locker room, not necessarily that he can't relate to the guys.

884
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 9: It just takes a little extra effort because a lot

885
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:44,439
Speaker 9: of the young guys are so attached to their cell

886
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 9: phones and they're not just hanging out naturally like they

887
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 9: used to do. I remember Tom Brady, remember he was

888
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 9: like twenty years older for a long time, but he

889
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 9: always related to the guys because he would just always

890
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 9: know their names and strike up conversations and all that.

891
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,080
Speaker 5: Ja pee, let me get it here, because I'm gonna act.

892
00:43:59,920 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 1: Like the kids.

893
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 5: Hold up, Hold up, hold up. Why is it.

894
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 6: Matthew Stafford who's got to reach back Matthew Stafford's the

895
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 6: ones with the with the with the skins on the wall.

896
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 6: Why wouldn't these young folks JP be the one like,

897
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 6: I want to get to where that guy's.

898
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:15,359
Speaker 5: Going, so let me learn more about him.

899
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:17,799
Speaker 6: Why is it on the old guy who's got to

900
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 6: go fishing in the snapchat pool or whatever it is,

901
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 6: the yu gi oh card Pool to get with his

902
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 6: teammates because we've seen this, right, Look Aaron Rodgers on

903
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 6: Hard Knocks, you keep talking about.

904
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:32,399
Speaker 1: Uto.

905
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, I got kids, you know all that stuff. But

906
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, what I'm.

907
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 1: Saying is like derailed Steve.

908
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 5: Well, look Aaron Rodgers was seeing a Hard Knocks he's

909
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 5: buddy buddy with all these guys.

910
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 6: Well ask Christian Watkins and all those guys, those young

911
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,360
Speaker 6: players last year in Green Bay if he was that

912
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,799
Speaker 6: nice to them, right, So that you know, it's like

913
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 6: I said, it takes like, hey, I've got to make

914
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 6: an effort on both sides.

915
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 5: All right, James gets back on the rails.

916
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 2: I'll say, I'll say, Steve, if you remember, it's it's

917
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:03,799
Speaker 2: pretty much Julian Edeman's claim to fame, right, he is

918
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 2: the one that went and said I'm going to attach

919
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 2: myself to Tom Brady. I'm going to follow him in

920
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:10,359
Speaker 2: every spot that he goes, every corner of the earth

921
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 2: he wants to throw a football, I'm going to go

922
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 2: there and be with him. That is the young guy

923
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,839
Speaker 2: approach to the veteran quarterback you're talking to. And look

924
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 2: what it did for Julian Edelman. Omar brought up Brady

925
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 2: by the way and and being down there in an

926
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 2: elderly woman's home used as an airbnb for thirty seven

927
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 2: straight days.

928
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 1: Hold up, I got a chance to be a fly

929
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 1: on the wall. Yeah, yeah, that's where we put in

930
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:38,840
Speaker 1: an elderly listen. Go on YouTube.

931
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 2: Well, wasn't offered. Wasn't offered back then, guys, But you

932
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:43,760
Speaker 2: can go on YouTube. You can watch my Tampa Diaries

933
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 2: as I broadcast live from that home during COVID. But

934
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 2: I got to watch Tom Brady being a fly on

935
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 2: the wall. So few of us were allowed at those

936
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:55,240
Speaker 2: practices to be right there on the sideline and watch

937
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 2: Brady interact with an entirely new group of guys. And

938
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 2: everything I heard from every player I spoke to on

939
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:04,439
Speaker 2: that Tampa Bay Buccaneers roster was like he has found

940
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:07,360
Speaker 2: a way to connect to everybody inside this room. And

941
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 2: he always heard in New England that the first thing

942
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,360
Speaker 2: that happened when you came into that locker room is

943
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 2: Brady was one of the first people that went up

944
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 2: to you and introduced himself. He like he has to,

945
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 2: but he would introduce himself, you know, I'm Tom Brady,

946
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 2: and reach out himself. That is I think, Omar, maybe

947
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 2: one of the greatest traits that Brady showed over the

948
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 2: years was his ability to relate to every single guy

949
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 2: in the locker room. And it was a big aspect

950
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 2: for his success in Tampa, even though it was also

951
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,400
Speaker 2: a big aspect for success throughout those years.

952
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:37,800
Speaker 1: In New England.

953
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:40,759
Speaker 9: Yeah, not just creating that chemistry, but just to buy

954
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:44,439
Speaker 9: in then that those young guys Tom Brady knows my name,

955
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 9: and just how that just set the foundation for the

956
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 9: entire season and obviously all that success they had. I mean,

957
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 9: not only was he a phenomenal talent quarterback, but just

958
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 9: the leadership, like you said, James, just tremendous on and

959
00:46:58,600 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 9: off the field.

960
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 7: Real quick though, if we have a second, I was

961
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 7: around the Packers this training cab, but I was talking

962
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 7: to people who are around that team, and they said,

963
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 7: it's such a different vibe with Jordan Love because like

964
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 7: he's their boy, whereas with Aaron Rodgers he was seen

965
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 7: more as like a godfather figure. Right, don't speak unless

966
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 7: spoken too. But now we see on hard knocks it's

967
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:20,800
Speaker 7: can hardly different in New York. So I one hundred

968
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:24,240
Speaker 7: percent think it's on the older guy to determine which

969
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 7: way they want it to go. Yes, the younger guy

970
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:29,720
Speaker 7: should be like respecting and trying to make an effort,

971
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 7: but the older quarterback is the one kind of in charge.

972
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 7: Do you want me to be in your circle or not?

973
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:38,800
Speaker 6: Bridget this is that that's such a great point because

974
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 6: this isn't going away. Quarterbacks are playing into their forties now, no, right,

975
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 6: running backs. Running backs are playing to their twenty nine

976
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 6: before they get let go. So you know, this is

977
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:51,879
Speaker 6: something And this is where I'm glad, Like I'm here,

978
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:55,919
Speaker 6: I'm fifty seven. You are not as old as me, right,

979
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,719
Speaker 6: and so so this is.

980
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 7: Something where I'm eighteenth birthday coming up.

981
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 6: There you go so generational things like, let's is there

982
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 6: something where in life?

983
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 4: Right?

984
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 6: You just got married, right, you're going through all these

985
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:12,919
Speaker 6: familial stages and generations of people and things as well.

986
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 5: What are some of the generational.

987
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:18,760
Speaker 6: Things yet, like people like me or an older quarterback

988
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 6: like Aaron Rodgers, whatever that you think need to take

989
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 6: place to establish harmony so there is a successful workplace relationship.

990
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 7: I think you just have to could be putting in

991
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 7: the effort. Like I think back to when I was

992
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 7: in like the Triangle Raleigh and Durham, and I think

993
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 7: about coach Cutcliff and Matt Brown. Why the players loved

994
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 7: those guys who were such older coaches. It's because they

995
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 7: come in the locker room after and do a little

996
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 7: dance or something. Right, They're not the best at it,

997
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 7: but it's showing, Hey, I want to be a part

998
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 7: of your world.

999
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:51,319
Speaker 5: Right.

1000
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 7: So I think these older quarterbacks have to almost say

1001
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:56,880
Speaker 7: like Okay, I don't understand what these ulio cards or

1002
00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 7: whatever they are that's going on, but like let me

1003
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 7: play a hand, or let me come in this TikTok

1004
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:04,400
Speaker 7: for like once a week or something. Let me be

1005
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 7: a part of your world and show that I'm making

1006
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 7: an effort. Almost.

1007
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean I think that's it, you know, just

1008
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 9: the effort and the leadership and you know, as a

1009
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:18,360
Speaker 9: game has changed over the years, so too has relationships in.

1010
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:18,959
Speaker 1: The locker room.

1011
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 9: And you know it's not going away because, like you said,

1012
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 9: it seems like every quarterback now Steve says they want

1013
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:27,399
Speaker 9: to play till they're forty five and follow Tom Brady's lead.

1014
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:27,720
Speaker 1: There.

1015
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:29,879
Speaker 9: You know, we've heard Russell Wilson say it, we heard

1016
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 9: Drew Brees say it. You didn't quite get to that age.

1017
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 9: But yeah, it's going to be an issue or not

1018
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 9: one for years to come.

1019
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 5: Good stuff.

1020
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 6: Can you imagine like Bill Belichick walking through like Andy Reid,

1021
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:43,760
Speaker 6: you know who's got that great connection?

1022
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 5: How about them Patriots?

1023
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 1: Can he did a lot.

1024
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 7: He already admitted he loves Taylor Swift, so he's taking

1025
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 7: steps in the right now.

1026
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, that's a major dub.

1027
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 6: That's a major dub, all right, Bridge of Conn and

1028
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 6: Omar Wesh, thank you so much, James Palmer.

1029
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 5: Bring us home.

1030
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 1: I appreciate you guys.

1031
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:07,800
Speaker 2: And also, Taylor Swift had something done to her Steve

1032
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 2: that so many Patriots players wishes that was said to them,

1033
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 2: that she is tough, that she is able to handle

1034
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:15,360
Speaker 2: the elements. All these Patriots to play for Bill Betchery

1035
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:17,839
Speaker 2: want to be called tough at some point. Now, this

1036
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:23,360
Speaker 2: was the introductory episode of the NFL Report, which was

1037
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 2: just a podcast version. But you can see these smiling

1038
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:29,720
Speaker 2: faces of Steve Which and myself on the NFL channel.

1039
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 2: Whether it's on Pluto or tub or Roku or Peacock,

1040
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:38,360
Speaker 2: it is the NFL Channel Mondays and Thursdays at seven fifteen.

1041
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 1: Steve see that.

1042
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, the NFL Fast channels. You remember the word fast.

1043
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 6: That's where we are because we're not just old. We're

1044
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 6: keeping up with the new trends in television and the

1045
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 6: new trends in Phantom for JP, for Steve Weitch, We're

1046
00:50:53,680 --> 00:51:00,120
Speaker 6: out of here, just