1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,600 Speaker 1: Right now poise at the edge of the galaxy. Emperor 2 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:05,439 Speaker 1: Zurg has been secretly building a weapon with a destructive 3 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: capacity to annihilate an entire planet. I alone have information 4 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: that reveals as weapons only weakness, and you are responsible 5 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: for delaying my Roundey, it was dark man. You're gonna 6 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: find out, I think if you don't know if by now, 7 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: that owning a Mercedes require some very specific parts and 8 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 1: some very specific repair procedures. So just yeah, it's yeah, 9 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: I can tell. But you found that out, huh to 10 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 1: you weren't the real car doctor. You're an accent, thank you, 11 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: Not that we have that much of it here in 12 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: North Dakota, but occasionally it does get locked. Yeah, I 13 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 1: think I think the third Tuesday of julaw, you guys 14 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: get gets warm, the snows melted by then. Welcome to 15 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 1: the radio home of Ron Andanian the Car Doctor, since 16 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 1: this is where car owners the world over turned to 17 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If your mechanics 18 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 1: giving you a busy signal, pick up the phone and 19 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: call in the garage orders are open, but I am 20 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 1: here to take your calls at eight five, five, five 21 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 1: six and now and beyond he running. Hey, it's time 22 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 1: to start your engines roting any in the Car Doctor 23 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:21,119 Speaker 1: here at five five five six zero on nine nine 24 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 1: zero zero. You know, the openings are getting so good. 25 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: I'm sitting there. I'm just listening to them. I forget 26 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 1: what it is I'm supposed to be here doing. Um, 27 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 1: so good job, Tom Ray. Tip of the hat. More 28 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: information to Car Doctor show dot com podcasting their click 29 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 1: subscribe or favorite and take the Car Doctor with you 30 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 1: and drive those numbers up and keep them going to 31 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: the positive direction. Uh. This radio show is about fixing 32 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 1: your car. Whatever it is you want to talk about. 33 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 1: Whatever you drive, doesn't matter. Um, it's got four wheels 34 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: and an engine. Will we'll be like to help you 35 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: talk to you about it and help you take care 36 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: of it and uh, you know, solve it and maybe 37 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 1: just help you learn how to communicate with your mechanic better, 38 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: because this shows about communication. That's there too. UM. I 39 00:01:55,560 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 1: have to talk about real quick. Um next week this 40 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 1: I've got a note here that we're going on a date. 41 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: I gotta take you two on a date. We're going 42 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: to the drive in. What's what's what's this all about? Mr? Ray? 43 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 1: What are you doing to me? Now, well, you're gonna 44 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: be in the trunk, Tony, and I'll be in the car. 45 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: Oh well, listen, I got enough money. We can pay 46 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: for all three tickets. This isn't like high school. No, 47 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 1: you're going to be in the trunk and we're going 48 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: to be in the car over. It has nothing to 49 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: do with money to get in. But we're gonna pay 50 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 1: for three tickets of course. Okay, well then then we'll 51 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:27,679 Speaker 1: do that. Where are we going? What are we doing? 52 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 1: The Warwick Drive in theater for a it's a charity 53 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: for the Humane Society. Oh is this the w t 54 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 1: b Q The Creuse for Critters and our affiliate up 55 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: in Warwick w t b Q. I think I just 56 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: heard that. You see, I was listening. I wasn't listening 57 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: to respond. I was listening to communicate. It should be fun, Yeah, 58 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 1: it should be a lot of fun. We're gonna put 59 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 1: you on display. Um, I hope everybody's wearing dark sunglasses. Um, 60 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 1: so you just need to be wearing clothes. Is Tony coming? Yes, 61 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: we hope. Okay, Well that's good. We're about to eat afterwards, 62 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,959 Speaker 1: so I have a budget. Actually, there's a great barbecue 63 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:05,079 Speaker 1: place over near my house, and that's not too far 64 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:06,959 Speaker 1: from my house. So yeah, we get anything for a 65 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: buck three eighty. I mean, you guys three dollars at 66 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: three dollars twelve cents, you guys can need all you want. Um. 67 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: But yeah, okay, So that's next week cruising for Critters, 68 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: the Cruisers for Critters at the Warwick Drive in five 69 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: Warwick turn Pike, Warwick, New York. Um, I realize that's 70 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: a little bit of a local thing, but yeah, why 71 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:22,239 Speaker 1: not we get down to the local level where a 72 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:24,519 Speaker 1: national show. But we're you know what, We're glad to 73 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 1: help out wherever we can, whatever we can any cause, 74 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: and they will be up there and if it's really nice, 75 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: but we'll bring the hot rod. But I've got a 76 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 1: feeling I'll be using the suburban the bus to haul 77 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: equipment because um, yeah, that's probably what's gonna happen. So 78 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: but anyway, that's next weekend. I want to talk a 79 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 1: little bit about diagnostics. UM. I want to talk about 80 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: it from the sense of, you know, we've been saying 81 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: for a long time now it's it's diagnosed. You gotta 82 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 1: know what's good to figure out what's bad. Subaru Legacy 83 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: came into the shop this week. Mr Cooper herbs Um, 84 00:03:58,040 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: He's probably been the repair of the week more than 85 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: anybody I can I can think of. But um, super Legacy, 86 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: Mr Cooper's Subaru. That um, we put a trans in 87 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: this car going back good. Was the beginning of the 88 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: summer June May June. This was the eight nine thousand 89 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 1: dollars Subaru transmission overhaul and a couple of the things 90 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 1: and CVT trans and a hundred and ten thousand mile 91 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: Legacy and always well. And he called me up. He 92 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: called me up actually the week before he went on vacation, 93 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 1: the week we went on vacation. He went on vacation, 94 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: and he said they were driving the car to the 95 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: airport or some such destination and the car was shuttering 96 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: and shaking and steering wheel shuttering and shaking, and it 97 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:40,159 Speaker 1: felt like the trans was, you know, going bad, like 98 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 1: it had a slipping transmission. Sure did make my vacation 99 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: interesting as I tried not to think about the eight thousand, 100 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 1: nine thousand dollar transmission being a problem. But I don't know, 101 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: Sometimes you just gotta say leave it alone and just 102 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: way do you get there? So it was my job 103 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: on Tuesday. It was one of the first ones I had. 104 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 1: Ticket fell in my rack and I wrote it down 105 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 1: just the way he described it. Take the car out 106 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: to the highway driver for fifteen minutes, and the steering 107 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 1: we will start the shutter and shake as you step 108 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: on the gas and and and try to accelerate forward. 109 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:15,359 Speaker 1: And I tried to have positive you know, juju good thoughts. 110 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 1: Just try to maintain good carmen and thinking positive stuff. 111 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 1: You know, I think I can, I think I can. 112 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:22,359 Speaker 1: I think I can, because I don't want to do 113 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 1: another transmission. And yeah, started the shutter and shake. Yeah, 114 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:32,039 Speaker 1: there it was, and it had dawned on me. And 115 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: I was surprised too, because prior to the road trip 116 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:36,280 Speaker 1: I had a scan tool plugged in. Prior to the 117 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: road trip, I scanned it for codes, and I went 118 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 1: through all the modules looking to see, is anybody reporting 119 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 1: an error that's somehow related that could be descripted. Yeah, 120 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: there it is. Somebody. Somebody reported to do that. One 121 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:52,479 Speaker 1: more time, we get that one more time. Tony scanned 122 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 1: you sounded better the first time, so you know, we're 123 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: looking for something indicative of something what's going on here? 124 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 1: Past every scan tool test no, no relation to the 125 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: shutter could be found by way of a of a code. 126 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 1: We're out for a ride and I'm starting to think, now, 127 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 1: you know what's going on with this carpet really does 128 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: what he says it does, and it does it did. 129 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:19,720 Speaker 1: Twenty minutes into the ride, the car starts to shutter 130 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: and shake, and it just it was just it was 131 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 1: fighting itself like it was gonna tear itself apart. And 132 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: then it popped into my head. I said, this car's 133 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: got a bad break caliper on it. I don't know 134 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 1: why I thought like that. I said, this car's got 135 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:38,919 Speaker 1: a bad breake. Caliper on it. I said, the calipers 136 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: starting to bind and it's dragging the car and it's overheating. 137 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: The rotor got back to the shop. I got out 138 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: my thermal imager. Thermal imagers are neat tools right there 139 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: like a fancy heat gun. It will show you the 140 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 1: temperature of everything in that scan related in that area. 141 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 1: And I went to the right front brake, caliper or 142 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 1: the right front wheel, and the right front wheel break 143 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: area was like anywhere from a hundred degrees. The left 144 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: front was degrees. Yeah, you know what put the car 145 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: up in the air, couldn't turn the left front wheel 146 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:21,559 Speaker 1: it was locked on. Diagnosed out that the left front 147 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: brake hose had failed or was in the process of 148 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: failing or holding pressure, whichever way you want to look 149 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: at it. Higher mileage, eight year old car. So we 150 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: you know, we ended up overhauling the front brakes, caliper's hoses, pads, rotors, 151 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: et cetera. But the point of this repair becomes knowing 152 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: what's good can help you find what's bad. I knew 153 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: it couldn't be a trans knew it wasn't the engine. 154 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 1: There were no fault codes. The cars have gotten so 155 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: much better in terms of their diagnostic capability that you know, 156 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: and so always my first question, are there any dashlights on? 157 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:00,040 Speaker 1: And even if it's not on, even if it's not 158 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: the first question. That's why I always say it's it's 159 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 1: really getting to be a very big part of the 160 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 1: puzzle two scan everything at least once every six months, 161 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 1: and I think cars are going to get better in 162 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: time that that they will be able to tell us 163 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:19,239 Speaker 1: and predict um. You know, hey, these numbers are climbing 164 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: in this particular area. Maybe ninety days from now. The 165 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: O two censor is going to fail, you know, uh 166 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: self diagnostics. I think it's something that's gonna have to 167 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 1: come up in the future because I don't know that 168 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:34,559 Speaker 1: the skill set is out here to repair the cars 169 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 1: in terms of the capability of where it's going. A 170 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 1: lot of the scan tools do it now. Scan tools 171 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 1: will now, you know, store against known good specs. Snap 172 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: On Zeus does it where they will take known good 173 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 1: specs and and say, you know, hey, here's what it 174 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: should be, here's what it is, and it will flag 175 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 1: that fault. I think the next evolution, whether it comes 176 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: from snap On or someone else, I think the next 177 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: evolution will be something along the lines of perhaps the 178 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: car will do it on its own, and perhaps it 179 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: needs to because of the diagnostic requirements because of how 180 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:16,559 Speaker 1: technical and complicated vehicles are getting. But you know, just 181 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 1: something to be aware of, you know again, diagnosed, you know, 182 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: eliminate what's good and you'll figure out what's bad. That's 183 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:24,319 Speaker 1: what I did on the suber U. I knew it 184 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 1: wasn't trans I knew it was an engine. I took 185 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 1: it for a road test, didn't see how it could be. 186 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 1: Tires thermal imager to ten one side for ten the 187 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 1: other side put up in the air, the calipers hanging. 188 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 1: Pretty straightforward diagnosis and uh, you know that car was 189 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 1: on its way to being repaired, which it was by 190 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 1: the end of the week. Because getting parts, well that's 191 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:45,559 Speaker 1: a that was a whole another story. Uh. Suber was 192 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 1: kind of an interesting company in terms of getting parts 193 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 1: and pieces because it was, you know, I need this, this, this, this, 194 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: and this and the left front break cos was I 195 00:09:56,960 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 1: don't know, somewhere in North Dakota at some depot. It 196 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: took forever to get um uh, to which the super 197 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:06,719 Speaker 1: ru guy said, yeah, we sell a few of these. Um, well, 198 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 1: we don't have more in New Jersey, which is that's 199 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:12,959 Speaker 1: a whole another story. So but anyway, diagnose what's good, 200 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:16,439 Speaker 1: you'll figure out what's bad. Eight five five five zero zero. 201 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:17,839 Speaker 1: Ron and any of the car doctor coming back, We're 202 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 1: gonna open the garage doors up right after this. Don't 203 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: go away. He drives that way. But when it comes 204 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 1: to fixing cars, Ron has card advice done right. Eight 205 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: five five five zero nine zero zero. Here's Ron, are 206 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 1: we stuck in that Every car in the last hour 207 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:40,439 Speaker 1: has been a two thousand eight Honda Accord what do 208 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: we just line them all up? This is the This 209 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 1: is the Ron and Aian Honda Accord Show. Let's go 210 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,439 Speaker 1: over to Mike in Ohio. Two thousand eight Honda Accord 211 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 1: Tommy Jane won't start. Oh my god, Mike, Welcome to 212 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: the car doctor, sir. Um. It's weird. I've got to 213 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 1: tell you. In the last hour we've gotten You're the 214 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: third two thousand eight Honda Accord in a row with it. 215 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 1: And they've all got different problems, as you guys can 216 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 1: all be trying to fix the same car. So what's 217 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 1: the story of your kid, Mike? Can you hear me? Yes? 218 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 1: Or now I can hear you? Tony. Tony hit the button, 219 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: he was a little confused. I picked up this car 220 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 1: a couple weeks ago, not running, Um, and the I 221 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:20,959 Speaker 1: picked it up from a shop actually, and then to 222 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:23,199 Speaker 1: get home, put it in a new timing chain myself 223 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:27,319 Speaker 1: and watched all the YouTube videos and UM did all 224 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: the reading to make sure I got my chain links 225 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: in the right spots on the dots on the cogs 226 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 1: and put tension on the chain to put it back together, 227 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: and it went back perfect. And then try to start 228 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 1: the car and it just turns over and doesn't fire. 229 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 1: How does it crank? Does it sound normal? It sounds 230 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: nice and smooth. I don't hear any clatter. Jap and 231 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 1: just take a compression test for giggles. Uh no, okay, 232 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 1: jappened to do anything cranking vacuum wise, I'm just thinking 233 00:11:56,280 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 1: about restricted exhaust. No jap to look for spark. No, 234 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 1: do we have injector pulse? I have no idea. Okay, 235 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 1: so those are the things you got it though? Okay, 236 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 1: just before I go ahead. Before I bought the car, 237 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 1: it did run and sputter, um, but wouldn't run for 238 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:21,599 Speaker 1: more than ten seconds. Okay, So so you bought it, 239 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:24,559 Speaker 1: would run, sputtered. Now you did a chain and now 240 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 1: it doesn't do anything right? Okay? Um? By chance? Cranking? 241 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 1: If do you have a scan tool? Maybe yes? Okay? 242 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: Any any sort of FULD code getting set? No? Well, 243 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: cranking it nope? Okay? Are you just looking in? Are 244 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 1: you looking in pending as well as current? The only 245 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 1: I cleared the timing code um after I turned the 246 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: car over. So the only other history code is a 247 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: recall on an air bag and a seatbelt. I think, okay, well, 248 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 1: but but know there's there's there's there's two fault codes 249 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 1: in engine controllers. You know, current, what's going on now 250 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 1: and what's about to happen? If if, if something is 251 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 1: about to happen. You've looked in what we call pending 252 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 1: or history, um and and current. I went in the current, 253 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 1: but I didn't go into pending. Okay, take a look 254 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: at pending. Maybe there's something there that being that being said, 255 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: then you know, just okay, listen, pretend you just got 256 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 1: the car and it cranked and didn't start. What things 257 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 1: would you be checking for? Uh? Fuel pressure? Right? You know, 258 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: forget forget what you just did, all right, because you 259 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: know you've checked what you did, and you're you're saying 260 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 1: to me and yourself that the timing marks are right on, 261 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 1: right yep, Okay, So if the timing marks are on, now, 262 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 1: let's go figure out what's good. Tell me what works 263 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 1: on the car. All the electronics work. There's no and 264 00:13:56,640 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 1: there's no appearance of any water damage anywhere. Everything's clean. Um, 265 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: the car has only got a thousand miles on it. 266 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:05,679 Speaker 1: And I was kind of surprised that I had to 267 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 1: replace the timing chain that soon. Um, well, it's not 268 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 1: you know, and then then you've got to look at 269 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 1: you know, how often were they change in oil. I've 270 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: seen the change stretch and jump on that generation Honda, 271 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: and you know people will just run away from the screaming. 272 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 1: Uh you know for a chain and you know what 273 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 1: you're doing is you're doing it the right way. It's 274 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 1: just now it's a matter of why doesn't it run? 275 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 1: You know, compression test would clearly be in order here. Um, 276 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 1: clearly be a good idea. Let's just you know, let's 277 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: just say, let's just do a mechanical compression test. Let's 278 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 1: do a cranking vacuum check while we're doing compression. Both 279 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 1: of those are pretty easy to do, right, Yeah? Would 280 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 1: I would I likely? Or is it possible that I'd 281 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 1: have a failed fuel pump without a code? It's possible. Sure, 282 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: you got any propane around the house, Yeah, I think so, 283 00:14:56,360 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: like like those little blue plumbers bottles of propane. Yeah. Um, 284 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: you've heard my story about I can't remember the tool 285 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 1: part number, but OTC makes it. It's a it's it's 286 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: it's a Chrysler lean Burn Richmond tool. It screws on 287 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: to the top of the propane bottle and it's got 288 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 1: an adjustment knob, and you can you know, you can 289 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: meter out propane in a very small amount. And what 290 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 1: I'll do is I will, I will. I take a 291 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 1: piece of three sixteen break line, put it in the 292 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 1: end of the hose. I pein it down at the 293 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: end so it's at a very sharp point, and I 294 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 1: can now give very good direction to the propane. Feed 295 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 1: the motor a little propane. See if it kicks, and 296 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 1: you know what it's It's a tool that's less than 297 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 1: a hundred bucks. And even if it doesn't help you 298 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 1: fix this car. Wait, the first car comes in that 299 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: you're working on that that has no fuel pressure and 300 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 1: you get the driving in on propane, You'll be like, oh, 301 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 1: thank god. Um. We had a we had a ninety 302 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 1: nine Lincoln Continental a couple of weeks back that had 303 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: a fuel contamination problem. And you know, Ron's getting older 304 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: and the parking lot is getting longer and pushing that car. 305 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: And from where the toe truck drops it off because 306 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 1: it was after hours, so it was outside the fence. 307 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 1: I walked out with my bottle of propane, hooked it 308 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 1: up under the hood, turned the valve, start of the 309 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: car up. Droven in customers really look at you like 310 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 1: your nuts too. It's really good for showing effect. It 311 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: really tastes. It really puts a little Ringling Brothers into 312 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 1: the day. But um yeah, I mean it just you know, 313 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 1: let's see what's good and then let's go backwards. Do 314 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 1: we have spark? Do we have injector pulse? We don't 315 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 1: have anything fancy to check for injector pulse. Have somebody 316 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 1: crank it over and listen with a mechanic stethoscope. Do 317 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 1: you hear click click, click, click click at the injector? 318 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 1: You want to get annoyed light. If you can get 319 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: to the injector, harness, put annoyed light on it. Do 320 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 1: you get blink? Blink blink? If you got a blink 321 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 1: and you got spark and you feed it propane and 322 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: it doesn't fire, you're either. We're down to, you know, 323 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: if mechanically compression is good, although it'll it'll it'll fire 324 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: on one cylinder low compression, all cylinders low compression. Now 325 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: something's wrong, all right, that's why I want to do 326 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 1: a compression test. And then we're down to what's the 327 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 1: chain really like? Could we be on one of the 328 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: camps um And let's go back over our diagrams one 329 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 1: more time and make sure. All right, So, if if 330 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 1: my timing was what symptom would ever be, and I'm 331 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 1: not saying it is, if your timing was out a 332 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:19,680 Speaker 1: D eighty, what I'm thinking is the fact that you're 333 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 1: not telling me there's a backfire or a misfire, or 334 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:25,199 Speaker 1: a stutter or a fart or something like that. You know, 335 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 1: it's it's if combustion was occurring at the wrong moment. 336 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 1: You should be telling me this this this car backfires 337 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 1: through the intake or the exhaust, and you're not saying that. 338 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 1: It's definitely not doing that right. So that's why I 339 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:40,360 Speaker 1: come back to doesn't have spark, doesn't have fuel, think 340 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:41,959 Speaker 1: of it. Think of it like this, Mike, And then 341 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go, if this is a one cylinder lawnmar 342 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:48,919 Speaker 1: all right, how would you fix it? How would you 343 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:55,159 Speaker 1: diagnose it? All the same ways? Right? An engine is 344 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 1: an engine is an engine. It doesn't matter. I was 345 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:02,719 Speaker 1: always taught when you know, a million years ago, I 346 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 1: was always taught that when you're trying to solve something, 347 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: take it out of the vehicle, separated, put it on 348 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:12,679 Speaker 1: the bench. Will this component work by itself. If that 349 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 1: component works by itself, and I'm not saying do that physically, 350 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:19,440 Speaker 1: sometimes you do it literally or mentally. If that component 351 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:22,640 Speaker 1: works by itself, then move on to the next thing. 352 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 1: Write everything down, get a yellow pad going showing you 353 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:27,399 Speaker 1: yourself what you did so you don't doubt it, and 354 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 1: sooner or later you'll get it. Call me back, let 355 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:31,239 Speaker 1: me know what happens. I'm curious. I'm rotating. The car 356 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:42,400 Speaker 1: doctor will return right after this when the family car 357 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 1: needs some fixing. There's only two things that really matter, 358 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:48,400 Speaker 1: getting the right part and getting some good advice. It's 359 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 1: a pretty safe bet that, with over a million parts 360 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 1: in stock, pet Boys has the right part right now. 361 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: The pet Boys pros are extensively trained to find the 362 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 1: right part for just about any car or truck. Better yet, 363 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 1: these pros can also handle the entire installation or service needed. 364 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 1: It's always good to have options and no the pep 365 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 1: Boys pros have it covered either way. Hey, welcome back, 366 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 1: right nat of the card Doctor. 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Hey, Ron, listen on one on 385 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:04,919 Speaker 1: one point five is from Eddie up in Massachusetts, Northampton, 386 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 1: mass Weekly. Does cleaning the mass airflow sensor work? Should 387 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 1: I replace it? Thanks? Ed? You know, Eddie, depends on 388 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: what we're working on. UM. I see here it's an 389 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 1: O three Buig Park gab and what are we trying 390 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 1: to achieve? What sort of problems are we having? Is 391 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 1: it a mass airflow sensor fault for intake air tamp 392 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 1: sensors some of them have Is it a performance related code? 393 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 1: Is it a lean condition? One of the things I 394 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:33,360 Speaker 1: will do and I cleaning mass airflow sensors is okay, uh, 395 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:36,880 Speaker 1: provided you're using proper chemical and you know, you want 396 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:38,919 Speaker 1: to make sure that you're using the right stuff to 397 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 1: do the job. Nothing too caustic and something rated for it. 398 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:44,439 Speaker 1: Don't use don't use throttle body cleaner to clean a 399 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:47,200 Speaker 1: mass airflow sensor for example, as I have people tell 400 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 1: me they do, but UM, using using a good cleaner 401 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 1: for mass airflow would be a great way to start. 402 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 1: But before I do that, UM, what I will do, 403 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 1: for example, and you don't say why we're doing this, UM, 404 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:00,159 Speaker 1: one of the things that we'll do is you know, 405 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 1: what's my code? What fault issue am I having? Or 406 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 1: how's my fuel trimp? Usually I'm dealing with a fuel 407 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 1: trim problem when we start talking about mass airflow sensor faults, 408 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 1: So this becomes where's fuel trim? What is calculated load? 409 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 1: Calculated load, by the way, is a great measurement of 410 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 1: mass airflow sensor efficiency. What's a mass airflow sensor? I 411 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: heard somebody in the audience, say, one person, that guy 412 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:31,159 Speaker 1: in the back breathe in, suck in, how much air 413 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 1: you intake? Your brain says a widget. All right. Your 414 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 1: your heart then takes that widget of oxygen, and your 415 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 1: brain takes that widget of oxygen and it helps uh 416 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 1: dispense it and pump it through and do what it 417 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 1: has to do with it and balance it out with 418 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:47,879 Speaker 1: the rest of the chemicals to keep your body in 419 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 1: and mind and heart moving. Rough example, but you get it. 420 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,120 Speaker 1: Cars do the same thing. A car with the mass 421 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 1: mass airflow sensor can measure. It knows when when the 422 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 1: engine goes and breathes in the air. The computer looks 423 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 1: at the mass airflow censor to see what that recorded 424 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 1: value of is. So what happens now is it will 425 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 1: take that measured amount and say, well, it's drawing in 426 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 1: that much air. It needs this much fuel in order 427 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 1: for the engine to run properly. Calculated load comes into place. Here. 428 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 1: The computer can measure by how much air being pulled 429 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 1: in across the sensor. If it sees y instead of X, 430 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 1: it might say to itself, hey, Tom's foot is all 431 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 1: the way to the floor. It's it's under maximum load. 432 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 1: Maximum calculated load then is the computer calculates how much 433 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,919 Speaker 1: stress the engine is under. And you'll see a number 434 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 1: on a scan tool anywhere from zero. If your foots 435 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 1: through the headlight, you're just your floor and you're winding 436 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 1: it out. A good mass airflow vehicle, you'll see anywhere 437 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 1: from eighty five even sometimes I will see a hundred percent. 438 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 1: I've never seen above a hundred percent once it's a 439 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:08,400 Speaker 1: fault in the scan tool. So back to Eddie's question, Eddie, 440 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 1: what's wrong with the car? What is it not doing? 441 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,919 Speaker 1: Is it a fuel trim fault, is it a performance issue, 442 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 1: is it an intake air code? Or we just cleaning 443 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 1: the mass airflow is part of normal maintenance. Cleaning it 444 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 1: as part of normal maintenance. Generally, don't do it, not 445 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 1: unless I'm operating in a real dirty environment or my 446 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,360 Speaker 1: air filter is not changed regularly, And then I'm gonna 447 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 1: scold you for a different reason, one of the reasons 448 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 1: why you want to change air filters on a regular basis. 449 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 1: But it comes back to that. You know that mass 450 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:41,959 Speaker 1: airflow censor, if it doesn't report calculated load, clean it. 451 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 1: And that's the whole point of this conversation. Then clean it. 452 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 1: Now you've got a number to work from. If you 453 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,120 Speaker 1: know what fuel trim was and you know what calculated 454 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 1: load was, clean it is there a response, Does it 455 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: get better? Does it get better to the point where 456 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 1: it's fine. If it gets better the point where it's fine, 457 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:08,679 Speaker 1: meaning the numbers go from calculated load and fuel trims 458 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 1: look normal, leave it alone. If calculated load goes from 459 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 1: sight and fuel trim is still high, you know the 460 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 1: mass airflow sensor is contributing to part of the problem. 461 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,639 Speaker 1: And now you can with all their diagnosis being done, 462 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:28,120 Speaker 1: now you can safely replace it. Good quality part that's 463 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 1: a whole another conversation. Make sure you're using something UM 464 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 1: known good quality. You want to use any junk and 465 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 1: UM you know that will work for you. But yeah, 466 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 1: mass airflow sensor. I look at mass airflow sensor. Some 467 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,159 Speaker 1: guys like it as maintenance, depends on the car. But 468 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 1: I like mass airflow sensor cleaning as a part of diagnosis, 469 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 1: and and and and that's a big deal for me. Um. 470 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 1: I like doing it for that particular reason. Ron love 471 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 1: the show. Listen often this comes to us from John. Um. 472 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 1: You mentioned to stop leak a few weeks ago, I 473 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 1: have a husk of varn are three two T writing 474 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 1: more that leaks in the trans housing. It's a common 475 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,400 Speaker 1: problem and the dealers are supposed to fix, but mind's 476 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 1: out of warranty. The fix was to replace the trans 477 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,120 Speaker 1: and destroy the old So, hoping you may recommend something, 478 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 1: I can answer the fluid to make it stop leaking. John, 479 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 1: I'm sorry to report that. No, I don't that. What 480 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 1: you heard me talking about is something we use in 481 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,639 Speaker 1: the shop and a lot of other shops use is 482 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: k Seal. K seal is a permanent head gasket repair 483 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,919 Speaker 1: type of sealer. It works in the cooling systems and 484 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:30,880 Speaker 1: cooling systems only. UM. It will seal anything from head gas, 485 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 1: gets the cracked heads and porous blocks. It works really well. 486 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:35,880 Speaker 1: We've been using it uh for a very long time 487 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 1: in the shop. Find more at k seal dot com. 488 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,679 Speaker 1: But uh, no, sir, they do not have any transmission 489 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,919 Speaker 1: sealers or additives that would fix your Huska Varna or 490 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 1: anything else for that matter in the area of transmission 491 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:50,119 Speaker 1: and uh so forth. So I'm afraid you're gonna have 492 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 1: to get the transmission more. UM replaced last email this segment. Ron, 493 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:57,639 Speaker 1: I'm not available during your life shows running. If you 494 00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 1: get was running, if you can ask on a question, sure, 495 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 1: let me ask WRO a question because I'm working out 496 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,439 Speaker 1: of the area. But is this still true when you 497 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 1: weld and exhaust on a car you're supposed to unhook 498 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,239 Speaker 1: the battery. Because my wife's card just had it and 499 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: it acted really weird. After we got back. The heater 500 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:12,879 Speaker 1: was blowing cold there and the spinambo jumped up by itself, 501 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 1: and that all kinds of weird things. And it seems 502 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 1: to be okay now, but we had had exhaust welding 503 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,159 Speaker 1: on it and it just acted weird for quite a 504 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: few miles. Thanks so much, love to listen to the show. 505 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 1: This is from It Doesn't say Well, mystery guest, let 506 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,679 Speaker 1: me um live. Will overtake a pause. When the Car 507 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 1: Doctor returns, I'll give you the answer about welding on 508 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 1: a car with the battery connected or disconnected? Which one 509 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 1: is it? Mechanic? A mechanic b who's right? Eight five 510 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 1: five zero nine zero zero? Run any of the Car 511 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:55,719 Speaker 1: Doctor coming back right after this need advice on how 512 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 1: to maintaining that classic g t O ron is the 513 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 1: guy five five five zero zero So we're talking about welding, 514 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 1: and when you weld on the car, do you disconnect 515 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 1: the battery or or not? Two schools of thoughts. Some do, 516 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 1: some don't. I don't most of the time. But most 517 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 1: of the welding I'm doing to date has been on 518 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:24,639 Speaker 1: older vehicles ten, twelve, maybe fifteen years or older. Nothing newer. 519 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 1: And the difference in my mind is the amount of 520 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 1: computers has proliferated over the last ten years to the 521 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 1: point of of of what we're driving now is the 522 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,159 Speaker 1: Space Shuttle. Now. One of the rules I've always followed 523 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 1: whenever I'm welding on a car is I will put 524 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:41,199 Speaker 1: the ground as close as possible to the point of 525 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 1: welding that I'm doing. And they say that does make 526 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,680 Speaker 1: a difference. Miller actually states that Miller welding, that you 527 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,359 Speaker 1: know that is the recommended method. Part of the problem 528 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:55,120 Speaker 1: with disconnecting the battery comes down to you will lose 529 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 1: all the adaptives and everything that the computer has learned 530 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 1: in the way of trans and engine operation, and now 531 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 1: it has to go through a learned process. And you 532 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:07,879 Speaker 1: know that that that that can be an issue given 533 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 1: the amount of computers that are on newer cars. Two 534 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:16,160 Speaker 1: thousand eight nine tens and so on. Up. I think 535 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,119 Speaker 1: battery disconnect has to be the safe way to do it. 536 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 1: And I think you've got to be prepared to do relearns. 537 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 1: You know, just because something has to be done doesn't 538 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:25,920 Speaker 1: mean we ignore it in terms of you know, we're 539 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:27,159 Speaker 1: not we're not going to do it because of this 540 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 1: or that. So I also think it's you know, it's 541 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 1: it's what's going to and what continues to drive up 542 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 1: the cost of repair in that with the battery disconnected, 543 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 1: Now maybe I've got to go through and use a 544 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 1: scan tool and do some type of relearn with it. 545 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 1: So it's it's it's not the worst idea in the world. 546 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 1: And on a newer vehicle, yes, I would disconnect. I 547 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 1: would disconnect the battery UM. And you know I would 548 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 1: still ground as close as possible. UM. But by all 549 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 1: means just just some precaution. The problem becomes that and 550 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 1: I have seen this. Where are cards that are left 551 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 1: connected when welding newer vehicles? UM. Computers get scrambled, they 552 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 1: do some funny things. Yes, sometimes they come back, sometimes 553 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 1: they don't. Uh, you know, for our listener that asked 554 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 1: this message this question, UM, sometimes they do, they do 555 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 1: come back, and sometimes they don't. So you want to 556 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 1: be you want to be cautious, especially when you start 557 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 1: seeing the price of computers. So, um, mass airflow sensor cleaning. 558 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 1: I just had another thought that if we're just to touch, 559 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 1: just to touch on this one last time, that if 560 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 1: we want to talk about mass airflow sensing cleaning and 561 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 1: the need for it, Berryman makes a mass airflow sensor cleaner, 562 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 1: Barryman mass air flow sensor cleaner, and like the rest 563 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 1: of their fuel system component cleaners with their heads technology, 564 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:46,239 Speaker 1: their mass airflow sensor cleaner is a great product and um, 565 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 1: you know it is safe and rated for the system. 566 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 1: Remember I said, you don't want to be using the 567 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 1: wrong cleaner on mass airflow centers because if you do, 568 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 1: you can have the issue with regard to causing damage. 569 00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 1: So no carburetor cleaner, no, no throat body cleaner, no 570 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 1: break clean you want to use mass airflow sensor cleaner. 571 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 1: Berriman makes a great one. Um, get more information at 572 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 1: Berriman Products dot com. So um, that covers that real 573 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 1: quick before we pull over and take the pause. And again, 574 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 1: I just I just want to mention this summer went 575 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 1: by really fast. Right. We all started out it was 576 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 1: just fourth of July, and look at it, It's Labor Day. 577 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 1: It'll be it'll be Halloween, Thanksgiving, December, and we'll be 578 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 1: we'll be looking at Santa Claus in three months or 579 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 1: whoever we decided to talk about in December. Um, kids 580 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 1: are going back to school. It's time to get the 581 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 1: car ready. It is September one. Um. You know, the 582 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 1: Car Care Council actually came out with a conversation and 583 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 1: Rich White points out, when it comes to vehicle safety, 584 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 1: the brake system at the top of the list, Rich White, 585 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 1: executive director, Cark Care Counsel, and which is right. We 586 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 1: we have to be aware that, you know, all of 587 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 1: a sudden, our breaks are gonna become very very critical 588 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 1: around all the schools, the kids dropping off and so on. 589 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 1: Motorists can put a stop to any potential break problem 590 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 1: by recognizing the signs and symptoms. And here's some of them. 591 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:00,959 Speaker 1: Breaks her norm were were right in for any car 592 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,479 Speaker 1: and eventually they're going to need to be replaced. If 593 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 1: your car is pulling left or right, if you hear 594 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 1: odd noises when you apply the brakes, you should inspect them. 595 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 1: Other warning sides include illuminated warning, brake lamp breaks, grabbing, 596 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 1: low pedal field vibration, hard pedal fueling, squealing. Yeah, come on, folks, 597 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 1: if if, if, if you know, if you're saying to yourself, well, 598 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 1: it's an old car that brakes are supposed to feel 599 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 1: like that. You know, we could do this like a 600 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 1: Jeff Foxworthy thing. How to tell when your brakes are bad. 601 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 1: If you have to drag your foot out the door 602 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 1: to get the car to stop, your brakes are probably bad. 603 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 1: If if your left foot has more tread on it 604 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 1: than you're right, your brakes are probably bad. You get 605 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:40,959 Speaker 1: the point. We can probably write a few of those, 606 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 1: Tony right, a few of those for next week. Um, 607 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 1: what what was that you just said about taking your 608 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 1: feet out the car? And if you you know, if 609 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 1: if your brakes might be how would we write that? If? 610 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 1: If your your brakes on your car might be bad. 611 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 1: If your left foot, if your left sneaker has less 612 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 1: tread on it then the right because you're dragging your foot. 613 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 1: I mean, what have happens If they just live in 614 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:09,719 Speaker 1: bedrock where med rock, well they're not wearing shoes, then 615 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 1: they get flat feet. That's how you get out of 616 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 1: the army. Yeah, that's what I asked. That was Fred Flintstone. 617 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 1: That was a whole another era. So you know why 618 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 1: Fred Flintstone is not alive today because he would have 619 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 1: had to wear shoes his car went to get into work. 620 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 1: He would have slipped in the bed rock. But I 621 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 1: can I ask you another question, as long as we're 622 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 1: off the subject here, how does a submarine? Can we 623 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 1: talk about the submarine thing again? Say goodby Iron, No, 624 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 1: let's talk about No. No, I'm not I'm not gonna 625 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 1: still to know, we're not gonna. We're not gonna. Don't 626 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 1: have an answer. How can a submarine go under the 627 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 1: ocean and be hidden if it's admitting all those oxygen 628 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 1: bubbles for those guys to breathe. You need a life. 629 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 1: I'm just telling you I think about these things. Let's 630 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,959 Speaker 1: pull over and take a pause. Zero nine zero. I'm 631 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 1: sure there's an answer for that one too. Somewhere I'm 632 00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 1: running any of the Car Doctor, don't go away, Welcome back, 633 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 1: Ron and any of the car Doctor. So bottom line, um, 634 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 1: when we start thinking about when we start thinking about 635 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 1: September and getting the cars ready, breaks are important. Uh. 636 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 1: The car care counsel is not wrong. If you want 637 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 1: to know more about being car care aware, get out 638 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 1: the carcre dot org and um, that'll do it for 639 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 1: you real quick. I want to do a Mitchell share 640 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 1: Track Fix of the Week. I was I was reading 641 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 1: this one and I liked it from the perspective of 642 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 1: some good old fashioned common horse sense diagnosis. We started 643 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 1: the show talking about common sense and how important it 644 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 1: is today and um what's got to be done for it? 645 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 1: And um, you know, I like the way they did this. 646 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 1: There's a Mercury sable. This real facts, real fix Sure 647 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 1: Track Fix of the Week is brought to you by 648 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 1: the folks at Mitchell one Mitchell one dot com. Uh 649 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 1: subject vehiclesy sable. I had a code one seventy two, 650 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 1: which is a system lean Bank one. Now keep in mind, 651 00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 1: even though it reports a bank Bank one lean fault, 652 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 1: where else you gonna look. You're gonna go look at 653 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 1: bank too. They don't say that in this report, but 654 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 1: I would imagine that Bank two was heading towards lean 655 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:12,320 Speaker 1: as well. Usually, if one's lean, the others lean. For 656 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,320 Speaker 1: the particular fault that I'm gonna tell you what this is. 657 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,879 Speaker 1: They looked at the two censors off idal they backed 658 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 1: pro bank one censor, one censor, one censor, two UH 659 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 1: signal wires and they observed them to be correct. They 660 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:25,839 Speaker 1: fed a little propane. See there's that propane and enrichment thing. Again, 661 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:27,759 Speaker 1: fed it a little bit of propane and they saw 662 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 1: the two sensors respond UH. So they knew they had 663 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 1: good O two's. And they also found that the idle 664 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 1: quality improved because they had fed the engine more fuel. 665 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 1: They connected a smoke machine. They look for intake UH leaks. 666 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 1: They didn't find any. Everything checked out good. They hooked 667 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 1: up a fuel pressure gauge. Fuel pressure was okay at idle, 668 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,840 Speaker 1: but I'm sorry, fuel pressure was They tested it at idle. 669 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:53,440 Speaker 1: Fuel pressure was below the range of thirty five p 670 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 1: s I. They looked at the harness, made sure that 671 00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:58,839 Speaker 1: it had power and ground and at that point card 672 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 1: a bad fuel pumping, but just the logical sequence of diagnosis, 673 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,919 Speaker 1: not just jumping in and if you notice, they check 674 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 1: fuel pressure and they also check to make sure it 675 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:15,239 Speaker 1: had proper power, proper ground, and they also verified that 676 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 1: the engine had the ability to respond to additional fuel. 677 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 1: By feeding a propane they could see that the engine 678 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,880 Speaker 1: would go into fuel control and respond properly to UH 679 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:25,839 Speaker 1: to what it was doing. So they put a fuel 680 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:27,480 Speaker 1: pump in it, cleared the code through the road test 681 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 1: in the vehicles operated properly. All these types of fixes, 682 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,920 Speaker 1: these real fix shut tracks fixes are over there at 683 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,600 Speaker 1: the Mitchell one dot com website, so whether they're for you, 684 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 1: and they're there for everyone to read and pattern failures 685 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 1: and a great database, and we thank them for that. 686 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,040 Speaker 1: I'm mominating in the car doctors. The mechanics aren't expensive. 687 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 1: Their pricess