WEBVTT - Legally Brunette: Blake Lively vs. Justin Baldoni Part 2

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<v Speaker 1>Hi guys, Welcome to Legally Brunettes. I'm your host, Emily

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<v Speaker 1>Simpson with my co host, the most Interesting man in the.

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<v Speaker 2>World, Shane Simpson.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, first of all, I think we just need to

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<v Speaker 1>do a little I think it's always important to go

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<v Speaker 1>back and do just a little summary of things that

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<v Speaker 1>we've already talked about. So let's just do a little update.

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<v Speaker 1>In the Menindez case, they were scheduled to have hearings,

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<v Speaker 1>but because of the fires, their resentencing hearing has been

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<v Speaker 1>rescheduled to March twentieth and the twenty first. I do

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<v Speaker 1>know that the DA, Nathan Hockman, has now met with

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<v Speaker 1>not only the side of the family. There's the one

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<v Speaker 1>member of the family who did not want them to

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<v Speaker 1>be resentence that's Milton, who is Kitty's brother, But he

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<v Speaker 1>has also met with the pro resentencing family, which is

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<v Speaker 1>like twenty four members of the family. So he has

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<v Speaker 1>now met with all the family and they'll be a

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<v Speaker 1>hearing March twentieth and the twenty first, which obviously we

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<v Speaker 1>will update at that time period. But also I just

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<v Speaker 1>want to say, because a lot of you as me,

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<v Speaker 1>what do I think the DA will do?

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<v Speaker 2>Wait? Can I ask questions before you say what you

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<v Speaker 2>think the DA will do? Yeah, do you think the

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure the fires are a valid reason and are

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<v Speaker 2>causing the courts to have to delay lots of things.

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<v Speaker 2>But do you think they jumped on that to delay

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<v Speaker 2>it like they had they had good read, like they

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to personally delay it and this gave him the excuse,

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<v Speaker 2>or you think it would have gone through had there

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<v Speaker 2>not been the fires.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I think it was legitimately the fires. I heard

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<v Speaker 1>from that A lot of the das in that office

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<v Speaker 1>lost their homes, and I think it's chaotic, So you

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<v Speaker 1>think it's I think it was a legitimate.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, there was an ulterior type motive in doing so, No, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>But just.

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<v Speaker 1>A reminder, it is not Pakman that makes the resentencing decision.

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<v Speaker 1>It is the judge. All the all Nathan Hoffman will

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<v Speaker 1>do is person through the case, present it. He'll have

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<v Speaker 1>a recommendation, but then ultimately the judge makes the decision.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's move on. This is our second podcast on

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<v Speaker 1>Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni, which is it is just

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<v Speaker 1>it is it is brewing. We did part one, so

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<v Speaker 1>if you haven't listened to that, yet I would suggest

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<v Speaker 1>you go back and listen to that and then come back.

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<v Speaker 1>We are now talking about Justin Baldoni filed a lawsuit

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<v Speaker 1>against Blake Lively, Ryan Reynolds and their publicist.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait before you get into that, so where did it

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<v Speaker 2>leave off? It left off with what filing or where

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<v Speaker 2>was the status of the parties? Okay, now going into detail.

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<v Speaker 1>Just so lit'sten. Just do a little background. First, Blake

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<v Speaker 1>Lively in December files the CRD complaint, which is with

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<v Speaker 1>the California Civil Rights Department. That was the administrative complaint,

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<v Speaker 1>which by the way, is not a public complaint. But

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<v Speaker 1>then but she filed that along with New York Times

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<v Speaker 1>writing the story. That was basically taking her complaints and

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<v Speaker 1>making that the story. And then there was also the

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<v Speaker 1>whole allegation of they altered some of the text messages,

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<v Speaker 1>they left context out, et cetera. So Justin Baldoni, in

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<v Speaker 1>response to that, files his libel suit again the New

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<v Speaker 1>York Times.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, because they didn't He's claiming they didn't paint the

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<v Speaker 2>whole they didn't provide the whole story. Right, They picked

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<v Speaker 2>and choose chose what they wanted to show, which is

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<v Speaker 2>probably what what is the mediast and probably what sided

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<v Speaker 2>with Blake Lively because she was their source, right, or

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<v Speaker 2>maybe they were negligent in looking into it any further

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<v Speaker 2>and just ran with what was given to them, right.

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<v Speaker 2>And now he's saying, that's not me, that's painting me

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<v Speaker 2>in a bad light, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>So again, let me I'll just give you just a

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<v Speaker 1>little legal background on libel. When you're talking about a

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<v Speaker 1>new source and you're talking about a public figure, the

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<v Speaker 1>standard to prove defamation, which is libel, is actual malice.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's a very very very high standard.

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<v Speaker 2>Very different means intentional. It means that bad.

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<v Speaker 1>Practice that they knowingly published something that they knew to

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<v Speaker 1>be false. So you know, he has an uphill battle

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<v Speaker 1>on that. But I think it was very important that

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<v Speaker 1>he filed that because he really got his side of

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<v Speaker 1>the story out there quickly, and I think that was

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<v Speaker 1>a smart move on his behalf. She then files a

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<v Speaker 1>federal lawsuit in New York, which is basically a mirror

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<v Speaker 1>image of the complaint she filed with the Civil Rights Department.

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<v Speaker 2>And just to be clear, the Civil Rights Spartman is

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<v Speaker 2>the equivalent of like the Better Business Bureau or something.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just like an agency or some type of body

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<v Speaker 2>that receives your complaints and just documents it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think she filed with that because I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think that she had the intent of ever filing an

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<v Speaker 1>actual lawsuit against him.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, that was her intent to collude.

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<v Speaker 1>With the New York Times and to get this story

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<v Speaker 1>out there that he sexually harassed her and that he

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<v Speaker 1>planned this smear campaign against her to ruin his reputation.

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<v Speaker 2>So do you think her intent was to ruin his reputation? Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>And why?

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<v Speaker 1>Opinion?

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<v Speaker 2>And why?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I think when she was promoting the movie it

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<v Speaker 1>ends with us, she got such bad press by her

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<v Speaker 1>own decisions as to how to promote the movie. She

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<v Speaker 1>received a lot of backlash from the public, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think she found a way to turn it around on

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<v Speaker 1>him and make him the bad guy in this scenario,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was her intent. So then she files his

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<v Speaker 1>federal lawsuit. I think she filed it because she got

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<v Speaker 1>pressure from the public that they were like, hey, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're accusing this guy of sexually harassing you, why are

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<v Speaker 1>you just filing it, Why are you just filing an

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<v Speaker 1>administrative complaint? Why are you not actually standing up for yourself?

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<v Speaker 1>If you are a woman that has been sexually harassed.

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<v Speaker 1>So she files it in federal court. He files. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>this is where we're up to now, and this is

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<v Speaker 1>what we're going to try to focus on in this

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<v Speaker 1>this session. He files a lawsuit against her, Ryan Reynolds

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<v Speaker 1>and their publicist, and it's on behalf of himself, Wayfairer,

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<v Speaker 1>which is his studio, the producer, you know, his partner,

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<v Speaker 1>and his finance guy who's also a partner and part

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<v Speaker 1>of wayfair his name Sarrowitz.

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<v Speaker 2>He's suing just the New York Times.

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<v Speaker 1>No, we're talking to past the New York Times.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, we're moving on.

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<v Speaker 1>The newest lawsuit that we're going to focus on today

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<v Speaker 1>right now is justin Baldoni versus versus Blake Lively, Ryan

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<v Speaker 1>Reynolds and their publicist. Let's just keep it like that.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll just be okay now.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's some deep pockets New York Times in one suit,

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<v Speaker 2>and then Ryan Reynolds and another because we all know

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<v Speaker 2>Ryan Reynolds, like was affiliate with some cellular company that succeeded.

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<v Speaker 2>It did well and was acquired and he cashed a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of money. Nothing wrong with that, but he certainly

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<v Speaker 2>got hundreds of I understand hundreds of millions of dollars, right,

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<v Speaker 2>But I will.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell you Justin Baldoni. One of his partners in Wayfairer

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<v Speaker 1>is Steve Sarrowitz, who is a multi billionaire, and he

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<v Speaker 1>has been drug into this lawsuit.

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<v Speaker 2>How do he get dragged in?

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<v Speaker 1>Because he's part of the founding fathers of Wayfairer studios,

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<v Speaker 1>he's like a silent finance guy behind the studio.

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<v Speaker 2>Well not so silent anymore. Isn't have to speak up?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think he's writing checks. Like I think he

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<v Speaker 1>came Brian Friedman a playing check and said, take these.

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<v Speaker 2>People cleaners, take them out.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And so that's where we're at.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>So the complaint that Justin Baldoni filed is one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and seventy nine pages. I read it twice. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's important, and let's just go through I'm gonna do.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's just do a little summary of basically what he's alleging.

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<v Speaker 2>In his I can't go over one hundred and eighty pages.

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<v Speaker 2>That'd be dull. We can't.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's do Let's just do a little summary of it.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I have some things that I pulled out

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<v Speaker 1>that I think are important. So Baldoni, Wayfair Studios, his

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<v Speaker 1>publicists christ and his crisis management expert Melissa Nathan, and

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<v Speaker 1>other plaintiffs filed a lawsuit on Thursday, I don't remember

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<v Speaker 1>the date. This is like two weeks ago in New

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<v Speaker 1>York federal court against Lively, her husband, her publicist, and

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<v Speaker 1>the firm Vision pr. The suit basically claims that Lively,

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<v Speaker 1>who was publicly blasted for her tone deaf motion of

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<v Speaker 1>a film It Ends with Us, centered around domestic violence,

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<v Speaker 1>but she could not tolerate her publicly tainted image for

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<v Speaker 1>a moment and decided to use Baldoni as a scapegoat

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<v Speaker 1>by accusing him of harassment and creating a hostile work environment.

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<v Speaker 1>His latest lawsuit repeats many of the claims that he

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<v Speaker 1>made in his December thirty first libel action against The

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<v Speaker 1>New York Times. Baldoni cited Lively's constant attempts to change

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<v Speaker 1>things about the film, he was aggressively berated by Lively's husband,

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan Reynolds, and that Lively persistently tried to overset Baldoni

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<v Speaker 1>in the editing process. So I decided I thought it

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<v Speaker 1>was important to make an outline of I like outlines.

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<v Speaker 1>I like to have a timeline of things, so let's

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<v Speaker 1>just start with twenty nineteen. This is when Justin Baldoni

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<v Speaker 1>reads the book.

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<v Speaker 2>It ends with us, okay, on his own head, that

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<v Speaker 2>book reads the book, not a script the book.

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<v Speaker 1>He reads the book. I've read the book. He reads

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<v Speaker 1>the book, he resonates with it. He founded wayfair Stut

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<v Speaker 1>Videos on the premise of creating content that was meaningful

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<v Speaker 1>and positive, and he wanted to make an impact. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of that kind of guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. So he likes movies with substance.

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<v Speaker 1>Movies with substance, movies with a purpose. He made a

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<v Speaker 1>movie prior to this called five Feet Apart or something

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<v Speaker 1>like that, and it had to do with a woman

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<v Speaker 1>dealing with cystic fibrosis. So his intent with forming Wayfarer

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<v Speaker 1>is to make movies that have a meaningful impact. So

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<v Speaker 1>he reaches out to Colleen Hoover.

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<v Speaker 2>So far, so good.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, he reaches out to Colleen Hoover, who wrote the book,

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<v Speaker 1>and he includes all these emails between the two of them,

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<v Speaker 1>which I think is important.

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<v Speaker 2>This is her first movie, her first novel that turned

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<v Speaker 2>to movie. Well.

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<v Speaker 1>She says in her emails that someone else bought a

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<v Speaker 1>book option to make a movie, but it never happened.

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<v Speaker 2>Ye, and it never happened. So this is her first

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<v Speaker 2>novel that turned in went onto the big screen. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>And he includes all these emails between him and Colleen

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<v Speaker 1>Hoover in his complaints, and you can tell that they

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<v Speaker 1>have a very good chemistry. She likes him, she sees

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<v Speaker 1>movies that he's made. They have a great rapport. She

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<v Speaker 1>respects him. She says, I think you are the man

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<v Speaker 1>to make this movie.

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<v Speaker 2>She says that in the email.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, and it's very important to her that this movie

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<v Speaker 1>is made in a way where it reflects the seriousness

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<v Speaker 1>of domestic violence, because that is what the movie is about.

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<v Speaker 2>I would believe that it's kind.

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<v Speaker 1>Of a generational because if you read the book or

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<v Speaker 1>you know anything about the story, the main character, Lily Bloom,

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<v Speaker 1>has to deal with some domestic violence when she marries Ryle,

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<v Speaker 1>but she also had domestic violence in her past between

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<v Speaker 1>her mother and father, and her mother never left. So

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<v Speaker 1>it delves into the center.

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<v Speaker 2>And the author didn't want that to be taken away, right,

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<v Speaker 2>So she says.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're the man to do this. I think

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<v Speaker 1>you can make the movie in a way that it

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<v Speaker 1>should be made. And she also suggests that he play

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<v Speaker 1>the main character Ryle.

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<v Speaker 2>So oh wait, okay, So not that this proves anything,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's definitely she'll chemistry and approval of him and

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<v Speaker 2>his interactions, right, Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So he buys the rights to this movie, or Wayfair

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<v Speaker 1>Studios buys it. They partner with Sony. He also partners

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<v Speaker 1>and I think this is important because I think this

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<v Speaker 1>goes to really show his intent and his character. He

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<v Speaker 1>also partners with No More dot Com, which is a

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<v Speaker 1>domestic violence group, and he wants one percent of all

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<v Speaker 1>the proceeds from the movie to go to No More.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, And that was on his own phrase, on his.

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<v Speaker 1>Own and he negotiates that. So then in December of

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>Two, So this sounds like it's he's really doing all

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<v Speaker 2>this so he can have a defense when files are

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<v Speaker 2>claimed against him. Right, this is all harassing Blake Lively

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<v Speaker 2>in the dance floor, That's what it sounds like. It's

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<v Speaker 2>very intelligent man.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So then in December of twenty twenty two, they

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<v Speaker 1>cast Blake Lively as Lily Bloom. I think it's important

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<v Speaker 1>to note that when she is cast in this movie.

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<v Speaker 1>The scope of her employment is lead actress.

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<v Speaker 2>Actress, lead actress, not lead editor, not lead editor, lead

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<v Speaker 2>actress not director.

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<v Speaker 1>Right. They also she gets I guess an executive.

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<v Speaker 2>Ryan Reynolds any way, he was not. Okay, he's husband

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<v Speaker 2>of lead actress.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a husband of good actress. That's it. And she

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<v Speaker 1>is given an executive producer credit, which they state that

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<v Speaker 1>that's common when someone's an A list actress, that that's

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<v Speaker 1>just a norm that comes along with it. First of all,

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to establish some things because we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to get into that ten minute video and let's talk

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<v Speaker 1>about that that was released by Baldoni's team. But let's

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<v Speaker 1>talk about right from the beginning of this movie, Blake

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<v Speaker 1>Lively exerts control over basically everything, but the first thing

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<v Speaker 1>is wardrobe. She completely gets rid of the wardrobe that

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<v Speaker 1>they've curated for this character, Lily Bloom, who is a

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<v Speaker 1>twenty three year old who just graduated from college and

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<v Speaker 1>she's opening up a small business, which is a Flora's shop.

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<v Speaker 1>How old is Blake Lively in her life? Blake Lightly

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<v Speaker 1>is thirty seven. She's playing a twenty three year old.

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<v Speaker 2>That's insane, Okay, and the character in the movie is

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<v Speaker 2>still twenty three. Yes, okay, okay, Well, no, I think

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<v Speaker 2>or young as young in the early twenties.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think they don't address her age in the movie,

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<v Speaker 1>but I do.

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<v Speaker 2>I did read, and.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure where I read this, but that Blake

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<v Speaker 1>Lively wanted Colleen Hoover during this when they're interviewing about

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<v Speaker 1>the movies, to talk about how they aged up the character.

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<v Speaker 2>But nonetheless, she now added to her role. What's it

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<v Speaker 2>called when you get the clothes wardrobe?

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<v Speaker 1>Wardrobe?

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you? Okay, So now she took on the title

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<v Speaker 2>of wardrobe.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, so she takes over wardrobe. She gets rid of

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<v Speaker 1>all that they all that they've bought for this character.

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<v Speaker 1>She isn't like any of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you have email histories or texting histories of this.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's a little bit, but trust me, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't even need text message up because I saw the

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<v Speaker 1>movie and I'm sorry, but the wardrobe on Lily Bloom

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<v Speaker 1>was a disaster. It was chaotic. I remember sitting in

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<v Speaker 1>the movie theater watching it and I couldn't pay attention

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<v Speaker 1>to what was going on because I kept thinking, what

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<v Speaker 1>is she wearing?

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<v Speaker 2>It was what's like the dressed like in real life.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't really pay attention to what

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<v Speaker 1>she dresses like. But here's the problem. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>Blake Lively read the book. He alleges that in his complaint.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think she understood the essence of the character,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think she tried to make it into something

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<v Speaker 1>else that did not work.

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<v Speaker 2>She also not why why did she a certain style?

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<v Speaker 1>I think she just wanted a certain style. I think

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<v Speaker 1>she She talks about how she wore some of her

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<v Speaker 1>husband's clothes, how she wore some of Gigi Hadid's clothes,

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<v Speaker 1>that she wore her own clothes that she wore. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm to wear a deadpool outfant she wear her husband's clothes?

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<v Speaker 1>No, she She wore a lot of oversized things that

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<v Speaker 1>just it was all right. It was beanies and car

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<v Speaker 1>hearts and camo jackets. And I don't know. The wardrobe

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<v Speaker 1>was hideous if you ask me. It was basically ignoring

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<v Speaker 1>the director's vision for her character and disposing of the

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<v Speaker 1>weeks of effort and creativity spent by the wardrobe team.

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<v Speaker 1>The costume designer had to reshop the entire wardrobe. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>during this time period, paparazzi took photos of her filming,

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<v Speaker 1>and people online were also talking about how this is chaotic.

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<v Speaker 1>So I want to show you some images. Also, the

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<v Speaker 1>other thing that really bothered me was that she carried

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<v Speaker 1>Valentino bags all the time. We're talking about this character

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<v Speaker 1>is a twenty three year old girl who, when I

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<v Speaker 1>read the book, thought she came from just a regular

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<v Speaker 1>middle class family who went to college, had just graduated

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<v Speaker 1>from college and opened up a small business, probably with

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<v Speaker 1>a business loan or you know. I didn't ever take

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<v Speaker 1>away from the book that there was money. So the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that she's wearing these chaotic outfits with a Valentino

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<v Speaker 1>bag really bothered me. But anyway, I'm gonna show you

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<v Speaker 1>some of these outfits.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, that looks like, uh, what is that like?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't understand what that is. Is that boxers with

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<v Speaker 1>it is a little confused low pants over the top

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<v Speaker 1>of the boxer.

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<v Speaker 2>That is bad. Also, I don't even think I could

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<v Speaker 2>try to dress that bad.

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<v Speaker 1>She's also supposed to be twenty three, and I am

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<v Speaker 1>not putting down Blake.

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<v Speaker 2>Likely that's great, but she's not twenty three.

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<v Speaker 1>Blake lightly is thirty seven, She's had four children. She's beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not even though I don't particularly like her, I

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<v Speaker 1>would never not say that she doesn't look good. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>there's one other thing I have to say about this

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<v Speaker 1>flower shop in the movie that really bothered me. And

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't ever heard anyone else comment on it, But

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<v Speaker 1>when I envision this flower shop that Lily Bloom, she

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<v Speaker 1>opens up a small.

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<v Speaker 2>Business as a floorist.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, then the flower shop that they depicted in the movie, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>are there any live flowers in this flower shop? Or

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<v Speaker 1>is it all dead dry flowers? I was so confused

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<v Speaker 1>about the aesthetics of this flower shop.

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<v Speaker 2>Well they should have had yeah that they should have

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<v Speaker 2>been on top of that, right.

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<v Speaker 1>It had this very edgy, dark, dead flower kind of feel,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was so confused by it. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>this woman opened a flower shop and these where are

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<v Speaker 1>the bright live flowers? Anyway, that bothered me. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if it bothered anyone else or if anyone else

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<v Speaker 1>noticed that it is, but I felt the need to

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<v Speaker 1>still talk about it because it bothered me. She also

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<v Speaker 1>starts rewriting scenes. There's the iconic rooftop scene where Lily

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<v Speaker 1>and Ryle first meet, she wants to take a stab

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<v Speaker 1>at rewriting the entire scene. Again. She hasn't read the book,

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<v Speaker 1>so I think. So Justin is like, okay, why don't you?

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<v Speaker 1>And there are text messages.

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder if it was her.

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<v Speaker 1>Reynolds, I don't know. I mean, that's a good point,

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<v Speaker 1>but Justin is. You can tell in his messages with

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<v Speaker 1>her that he's like, okay, like he he knows that

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<v Speaker 1>he has to give her what she wants.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been in his positions.

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<v Speaker 1>He's walking on eggshells. You can tell she's like, I

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<v Speaker 1>have to give her a little and try not to

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<v Speaker 1>let her just completely take over. So he's like, okay, well, why.

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<v Speaker 2>He's trying to keep peace. He's trying to appease her,

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<v Speaker 2>probably only as far as he's okay with.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, So she rewrites this rooftop scene. She gives it

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<v Speaker 1>back to him, and in a text message, he says

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<v Speaker 1>something to the effect of he thanks her for her passion,

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<v Speaker 1>and then says something to the effect of it most

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<v Speaker 1>likely will end up being a mix of what the

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<v Speaker 1>original script is and maybe some of your ideas. Then

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<v Speaker 1>she sends him this big, long text, and this is

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<v Speaker 1>where we get into I'm sure if you've seen the articles,

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<v Speaker 1>this is where we get into the Game of Thrones texts. Okay, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>she basically sends him this long text talking about it's

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<v Speaker 1>really making reference to Ryan Reynolds and Taylor Swift and

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<v Speaker 1>about how they are her. She writes this scene and

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<v Speaker 1>then she gives it to him, and she's pissed that

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<v Speaker 1>he said thank you for your passion, like she didn't

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<v Speaker 1>like that. So she writes him back this long text

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<v Speaker 1>about this scene, and she basically refers to herself, I'll.

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<v Speaker 2>Read it being a swift you have to do with anything.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. If you ever get around to watching

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<v Speaker 1>Game of Thrones, you'll appreciate that. I'm Kalisi and like her,

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<v Speaker 1>I happen to have a few dragons, for better or worse,

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<v Speaker 1>but usually the better because my dragons also protect those

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<v Speaker 1>that I fight for. So really, we all benefit from

0:19:36.880 --> 0:19:40.360
<v Speaker 1>these gorgeous monsters of mine. You will too, I can

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<v Speaker 1>promise you to me. That's a very veiled threat. That's

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<v Speaker 1>basically like, look, buddy, I had Taylor Swift and Ryan

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<v Speaker 1>Reynolds backing me, and they're telling me that what I

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<v Speaker 1>wrote was great.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what does that have to do with What do

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<v Speaker 2>they have to do with anything.

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<v Speaker 1>I think she's just using I know everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>Now. It demonstrates that she thinks someone as successful as

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<v Speaker 2>Taylor Swift and Ryan Reynolds makes like she's trying to say, like,

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<v Speaker 2>I got those people behind me, so you better do

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<v Speaker 2>as I say.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>So, then not like they're in the industry and they

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<v Speaker 2>have credibility and they're saying this is good and we

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<v Speaker 2>should listen to their advice. It's like Taylor Swiss is

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<v Speaker 2>my bestie and therefore that's stupid.

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<v Speaker 1>And also it's not just that scene. I think she

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<v Speaker 1>rewrites that scene, But then as far as as his

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<v Speaker 1>complaint goes, she consistently rewrites scenes, rewrites the script.

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<v Speaker 2>She probably didn't know how to read the script. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what I don't like her.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you're getting very frustrated over there.

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<v Speaker 2>And I liked Ryan Reynolds, yeah, and now I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if I like them. She when she mentions her husband,

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<v Speaker 2>she wouldn't have done that unless they were already having

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<v Speaker 2>intense conversations. No, it's not like he just says, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that sounds great, whatever you want, no big deal, and

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<v Speaker 2>then she runs and says, I got Ryan Reynolds backing

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<v Speaker 2>me up. Yeah, they probably had heavy discussions. He might

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<v Speaker 2>even said he might help, you know, he probably helped

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<v Speaker 2>her write that.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh well, then that's very interesting because then during the

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<v Speaker 1>premiere of the movie, they asked her about the rooftop scene,

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<v Speaker 1>and she goes, oh, I'll let you in on a

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<v Speaker 1>little secret. I've never told anyone this before, but Ryan

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<v Speaker 1>actually wrote that song.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yes.

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<v Speaker 1>So then in the complaint, she's trying to give him credit.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I don't know. I don't know if it

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<v Speaker 1>was Ryan, I don't know if it was her. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if it was both of them. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know how much was.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually said it was him, But I mean she was

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<v Speaker 2>trying what a so then and we canceled them already.

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<v Speaker 1>So then then the complaint, justin Baldoni, includes letters going

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<v Speaker 1>back and forth between Sony and Wayfair and people are like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>did he write the scene? Because do we need to

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<v Speaker 1>give him writing credit? And everyone's confused, right, and they

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what's going on. So I to me, I

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<v Speaker 1>feel nothing but sorry for this guy.

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<v Speaker 2>After that shows when Blake Lely doesn't know her scope

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<v Speaker 2>of work what she was hired for and to respect

0:22:11.560 --> 0:22:14.920
<v Speaker 2>other people's positions, and she just takes over. And then

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<v Speaker 2>what you said where she says, Oh, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>let you know a little secret run on Reynolds wrote it.

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<v Speaker 2>Then she's stupid for not knowing how the industry works,

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<v Speaker 2>where you can't. I mean, there's credits on those movies

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<v Speaker 2>for a reason, and they follow whatever the guidelines are

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<v Speaker 2>with the unions and whatever it is to make sure

0:22:30.760 --> 0:22:33.600
<v Speaker 2>people get the credit they deserve. And here she has

0:22:33.640 --> 0:22:37.159
<v Speaker 2>this thrown out credit Willie Nilly in a big pr

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<v Speaker 2>you know interview, right.

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<v Speaker 1>So then behind the scenes there's all these you know,

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<v Speaker 1>communications going back and forth of like do we have

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<v Speaker 1>to give him a writing credit? Did he really write it?

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<v Speaker 1>What's going on? We don't understand.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't know why you like her. I always

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<v Speaker 2>did up until recently.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually went into studying this case very impartially.

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<v Speaker 2>I used to like Ryan Reynolds only from two Me

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<v Speaker 2>and a Girl in a Pizza Place that was his

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<v Speaker 2>TV show he had a long time ago, and then

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<v Speaker 2>he never did a good movie since No, you don't

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<v Speaker 2>think no, but he has a great agent because he

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<v Speaker 2>did a lot of flops. So that's that agent is

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<v Speaker 2>earning his money. And no, I definitely don't like Ryan

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<v Speaker 2>and I fell asleep during the first Deadpool, yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>I never saw the others.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, well, we have to get to dead Sell because

0:23:29.520 --> 0:23:30.840
<v Speaker 1>you ought that has to do with that. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>let's move on to the scene that is. It's the

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<v Speaker 1>ten minute scene that's all over Brian Friedman.

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<v Speaker 2>This is that dancing scene.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the dancing I didn't watch it yet, Well you

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<v Speaker 1>were supposed to, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Well I read about it.

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<v Speaker 1>So Brian Friedman releases it and it's ten minutes long.

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<v Speaker 1>I watched some of it, not the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, hold on. What I do know is from what

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<v Speaker 2>I read, she didn't think there was audio. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>so if if from her point of view she did

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<v Speaker 2>not believe there was audio, it was only video because

0:24:03.960 --> 0:24:06.280
<v Speaker 2>it's just used as them, whether it's like background music

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever. Right, it's just like silent scenes of them

0:24:08.680 --> 0:24:10.960
<v Speaker 2>being intimate or whatever. Right, So she didn't think there

0:24:10.960 --> 0:24:16.119
<v Speaker 2>was audio, and so she used that scene to be

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<v Speaker 2>able to create her own narrative. Yeah, I agree, And

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<v Speaker 2>we learned from earlier in the succession of Baldini, smart

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<v Speaker 2>enough to protect himself from being you know that he

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<v Speaker 2>probably had a mic on him for a reason.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably so. The video of the end it ends with

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<v Speaker 1>a set footage. It was provided by Baldoni's team, and

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<v Speaker 1>it shows footage of Lively filming a scene with Baldoni

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<v Speaker 1>in which their character slow dance for a slow motion

0:24:41.760 --> 0:24:45.560
<v Speaker 1>montage intended to have no dialogue. The co stars speak

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<v Speaker 1>to each other out of character while filming. You know.

0:24:48.000 --> 0:24:50.359
<v Speaker 1>She jokes about his nose. She says he should take

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what, an insurance month. But she tells

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<v Speaker 1>him he should get a nose job and take an

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<v Speaker 1>insurance month. I'm sure that's movie lingo. She talks about,

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<v Speaker 1>don't knows with She talks about Ryan and how they

0:25:02.960 --> 0:25:05.960
<v Speaker 1>look into each other's eyes or something, and he says.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, she's comfortable talking.

0:25:07.840 --> 0:25:11.040
<v Speaker 1>And talking out of character. She accuses him of not

0:25:11.119 --> 0:25:14.800
<v Speaker 1>being in character during this scene, and that's supposedly what

0:25:14.880 --> 0:25:18.600
<v Speaker 1>makes her uncomfortable is he's not Rile, He's being himself.

0:25:18.640 --> 0:25:19.199
<v Speaker 1>So that's why you.

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<v Speaker 2>Say character is to make fun of his nose.

0:25:21.920 --> 0:25:25.960
<v Speaker 1>Right, So she's uncomfortable, but she's also out of character too.

0:25:26.040 --> 0:25:27.760
<v Speaker 1>She's talking about you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I'm going to compare Baldini's nose to Ryan's nose.

0:25:30.920 --> 0:25:34.440
<v Speaker 2>It's what's his name? I want to compare their noses.

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<v Speaker 2>See what's her deal?

0:25:37.080 --> 0:25:42.520
<v Speaker 1>Anyway, they released the footage as far as I'm concerned, Look,

0:25:43.680 --> 0:25:48.400
<v Speaker 1>let's be honest. Here an intimate romantic scene between two

0:25:48.560 --> 0:25:50.919
<v Speaker 1>actors that are married to other people and have children

0:25:50.920 --> 0:25:54.840
<v Speaker 1>with other people. I'm sorry that professional for decades, right,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't care. It's inherently uncomfortable. Regardless you have

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<v Speaker 1>to make out with someone. These two people are in love.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, a professional, it would not be inherently awkward because

0:26:06.880 --> 0:26:09.520
<v Speaker 2>they would get into character and they would do it.

0:26:09.720 --> 0:26:13.640
<v Speaker 2>And maybe everyone has different levels of awkwardness or uncomfortableness

0:26:13.720 --> 0:26:16.840
<v Speaker 2>or whatever, but you're a professional, and that's what the

0:26:17.800 --> 0:26:18.560
<v Speaker 2>job calls for.

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<v Speaker 1>Right. Well, she is claiming that she was uncomfortable, that

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<v Speaker 1>there's no intimacy coordinator on SEIDS, and you know, his

0:26:27.040 --> 0:26:31.840
<v Speaker 1>complaint alleges that she never signed her nudity writer and

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<v Speaker 1>that she never met with them.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell me what a nudy writer is, because you've been

0:26:34.800 --> 0:26:36.359
<v Speaker 2>talking about that all week and I have no idea

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<v Speaker 2>what a nudy.

0:26:37.160 --> 0:26:41.520
<v Speaker 1>Because I need my own nudity writer is tell me

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<v Speaker 1>what it is and I'll let you know. So, when

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<v Speaker 1>there is an actress or an actor in a movie

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<v Speaker 1>and they have to do simulated sex scenes, they have

0:26:49.080 --> 0:26:51.520
<v Speaker 1>a separate contract that's called a nudity writer.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that like their boundaries or something?

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<v Speaker 1>I believe. So, I've never read one, but I looked

0:26:55.320 --> 0:26:58.320
<v Speaker 1>it up and basically, an intimacy coordinator looks at the

0:26:58.400 --> 0:27:01.919
<v Speaker 1>nudity writer. It's a contract and they say, Okay, it

0:27:01.960 --> 0:27:03.879
<v Speaker 1>looks good. This is what you're comfortable with with you

0:27:03.960 --> 0:27:05.800
<v Speaker 1>or not. Maybe this is when you use a stunt double.

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<v Speaker 2>This is oh, but then what was the intimacy coordinator?

0:27:09.760 --> 0:27:13.120
<v Speaker 1>The intimacy coordinator is a person that's supposedly on set

0:27:13.160 --> 0:27:19.560
<v Speaker 1>that actually works out the sex scenes and the romantic scenes. Okay,

0:27:19.560 --> 0:27:22.639
<v Speaker 1>there is an intimacy coordinator that they hired for this movie,

0:27:23.760 --> 0:27:26.960
<v Speaker 1>and she she claims that she's uncomfortable, but she could

0:27:27.000 --> 0:27:28.680
<v Speaker 1>have met with an intimacy.

0:27:28.119 --> 0:27:30.560
<v Speaker 2>But I'm surprised they were able to move forward without

0:27:30.600 --> 0:27:33.760
<v Speaker 2>her agreeing or meeting with this intimacy coordinator.

0:27:33.800 --> 0:27:35.240
<v Speaker 1>Well, there's a text message where he says, do you

0:27:35.240 --> 0:27:37.120
<v Speaker 1>want to meet with her? And she's no, it's like, no,

0:27:37.200 --> 0:27:37.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm good.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember you tell me that, But I can't imagine

0:27:40.080 --> 0:27:43.240
<v Speaker 2>why they move forward. They should have been like, well, no,

0:27:43.320 --> 0:27:46.560
<v Speaker 2>then you sign here to wave it. Like when someone

0:27:46.560 --> 0:27:49.400
<v Speaker 2>gets injured at work and they fall and they get

0:27:49.480 --> 0:27:51.720
<v Speaker 2>hurt and they're like, no, I don't want medical attention.

0:27:51.760 --> 0:27:55.200
<v Speaker 2>It's like, okay, then sign here saying you wave medical

0:27:55.200 --> 0:27:57.879
<v Speaker 2>attention so you can't later say you didn't get it.

0:27:58.280 --> 0:28:00.840
<v Speaker 2>So that's where he messed up. No I don't and

0:28:01.320 --> 0:28:03.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying he did anything bad or wrong, but

0:28:03.359 --> 0:28:05.520
<v Speaker 2>he messed up by saying, okay, then you sign here

0:28:06.200 --> 0:28:08.600
<v Speaker 2>saying that you wave an intimacy coordinator.

0:28:09.040 --> 0:28:12.240
<v Speaker 1>Well, I don't think she's necessarily waving it. She's just

0:28:12.280 --> 0:28:16.680
<v Speaker 1>saying waving the meeting waving it. Yeah, so I so okay. Well,

0:28:16.680 --> 0:28:18.760
<v Speaker 1>he goes to these meetings with the intimacy coordinator, he

0:28:18.760 --> 0:28:20.760
<v Speaker 1>takes handwritten notes, and then he has to go back

0:28:20.800 --> 0:28:24.560
<v Speaker 1>and share these handwritten notes with her. Apparently this scene,

0:28:25.320 --> 0:28:28.280
<v Speaker 1>the scene, this montage, this romantic scene where they're kissing.

0:28:29.520 --> 0:28:32.919
<v Speaker 1>Apparently she knew about the scene and she rewrote the scene.

0:28:33.000 --> 0:28:35.479
<v Speaker 1>That's what he alleges. So the fact that she feels

0:28:36.119 --> 0:28:39.960
<v Speaker 1>uncomfortable To me, looks like a retroactive way to go

0:28:40.040 --> 0:28:42.320
<v Speaker 1>back and look for something that at the time was

0:28:42.360 --> 0:28:45.160
<v Speaker 1>probably innocuous or benign or not really that big of

0:28:45.200 --> 0:28:47.360
<v Speaker 1>a deal. But it's a way for her to latch

0:28:47.400 --> 0:28:51.479
<v Speaker 1>onto something and say, hey, I felt uncomfortable there. M hm.

0:28:52.960 --> 0:28:55.560
<v Speaker 2>So didn't they have Did they have any intimate scenes

0:28:55.600 --> 0:28:56.000
<v Speaker 2>in the movie?

0:28:56.080 --> 0:28:56.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>So why didn't she use those scenes because those scenes

0:29:00.040 --> 0:29:02.080
<v Speaker 2>character I felt something down there.

0:29:02.200 --> 0:29:05.680
<v Speaker 1>No, I'll tell you why. Because those scenes were filmed

0:29:06.040 --> 0:29:10.720
<v Speaker 1>after the break, after they went on strike, production shut down.

0:29:11.000 --> 0:29:13.640
<v Speaker 2>Okay, but how does that break change things? So is

0:29:13.640 --> 0:29:15.360
<v Speaker 2>that she can't bring up those scenes.

0:29:15.240 --> 0:29:18.160
<v Speaker 1>Because those weren't filmed. This movie is divided into two parts.

0:29:18.640 --> 0:29:21.560
<v Speaker 1>They filmed half of the movie, then there were the strikes.

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<v Speaker 1>The strikes they did not film between June twenty seventh

0:29:25.120 --> 0:29:29.440
<v Speaker 1>and November ninth. During that time period, she was asking

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<v Speaker 1>for the raw footage, which is called dailies. I had

0:29:32.240 --> 0:29:34.560
<v Speaker 1>to look this up. Dailies is just the raw footage

0:29:34.560 --> 0:29:35.760
<v Speaker 1>from the day. It's not edited.

0:29:35.840 --> 0:29:38.000
<v Speaker 2>It's just the raw foot which is timestamp for that day. R.

0:29:38.240 --> 0:29:41.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, something happened between June twenty seventh and November ninth,

0:29:41.800 --> 0:29:44.400
<v Speaker 1>when she when they go the strike ends, they can

0:29:44.400 --> 0:29:46.760
<v Speaker 1>go back to work, and she sends a letter via

0:29:46.920 --> 0:29:50.960
<v Speaker 1>her attorneys saying she refuses a film unless they sign

0:29:51.080 --> 0:29:53.560
<v Speaker 1>this seventeen conditions that they all have to agree to

0:29:53.640 --> 0:29:56.240
<v Speaker 1>for her to return to work. It's these protections that

0:29:56.280 --> 0:29:58.880
<v Speaker 1>she needs in place. This is what I think happened.

0:29:59.520 --> 0:30:01.840
<v Speaker 1>I think she was asking for the raw footage because

0:30:01.880 --> 0:30:03.600
<v Speaker 1>she wants to take over. She wants to edit it.

0:30:04.080 --> 0:30:06.480
<v Speaker 1>He's giving her a little because he's walking on eggshells

0:30:06.480 --> 0:30:08.600
<v Speaker 1>all the time around her. He has to keep her happy.

0:30:08.600 --> 0:30:11.480
<v Speaker 1>He has to give her what she wants because in

0:30:12.080 --> 0:30:16.400
<v Speaker 1>this she gets the raw footage. I think Ryan Reynolds

0:30:16.640 --> 0:30:21.360
<v Speaker 1>sees the raw footage. I think Justin Baldoni is a

0:30:21.520 --> 0:30:27.560
<v Speaker 1>very handsome man, is he? I think I think he's

0:30:27.800 --> 0:30:32.520
<v Speaker 1>very good looking. And they have these intimate scenes together.

0:30:32.680 --> 0:30:34.800
<v Speaker 1>They have to kiss, they have to be close. I

0:30:34.800 --> 0:30:38.000
<v Speaker 1>think Ryan Reynolds got jealous and I think something happened

0:30:38.040 --> 0:30:42.040
<v Speaker 1>during that time period where he was not happy about

0:30:42.040 --> 0:30:44.480
<v Speaker 1>this close working relationship between the two of them, and

0:30:44.560 --> 0:30:48.479
<v Speaker 1>he wanted to exert his power in his ego. He

0:30:48.520 --> 0:30:51.800
<v Speaker 1>wanted to put this guy in his place, like, this

0:30:51.880 --> 0:30:54.200
<v Speaker 1>is my wife. And she has a history of having

0:30:54.280 --> 0:30:59.960
<v Speaker 1>relationships with her co stars. When she was on Gossip Girl,

0:31:00.320 --> 0:31:02.840
<v Speaker 1>she had a relationship with one of the other actors.

0:31:03.440 --> 0:31:06.280
<v Speaker 1>Wasn't he was married to Scarlet Johansson on Green Lantern?

0:31:06.280 --> 0:31:08.239
<v Speaker 1>And then Wasn't She on Was she in the movie too?

0:31:08.320 --> 0:31:11.560
<v Speaker 1>And then he ended up being with her. Anyway, she

0:31:11.600 --> 0:31:15.400
<v Speaker 1>has a history of dating her co stars or having relationships.

0:31:14.840 --> 0:31:17.200
<v Speaker 2>With her car and Ryan probably knows.

0:31:17.040 --> 0:31:20.120
<v Speaker 1>This, and he knows this. I think he became extremely jealous.

0:31:20.200 --> 0:31:23.160
<v Speaker 1>I think he did not want Justin Baldoni to have

0:31:23.320 --> 0:31:26.240
<v Speaker 1>all the control and power that he had. He owns

0:31:26.320 --> 0:31:29.840
<v Speaker 1>the movie, his studio is the one producing it, he's

0:31:29.880 --> 0:31:34.840
<v Speaker 1>the director. He has these scenes with her. He's a

0:31:34.840 --> 0:31:37.120
<v Speaker 1>good looking guy. I think he probably.

0:31:36.880 --> 0:31:38.640
<v Speaker 2>Said his nose.

0:31:39.160 --> 0:31:41.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean, the nose doesn't bother me at all. I'm

0:31:41.440 --> 0:31:44.360
<v Speaker 1>fine with the note. But I don't know. Maybe he

0:31:44.440 --> 0:31:47.080
<v Speaker 1>saw the scene where he takes his shirt off, because.

0:31:47.640 --> 0:31:49.880
<v Speaker 2>Those dailies, so we don't know what they saw because

0:31:49.880 --> 0:31:51.880
<v Speaker 2>it didn't Maybe there was some right.

0:31:52.080 --> 0:31:55.600
<v Speaker 1>There's also a lot of flirtatious texts between them, and

0:31:55.680 --> 0:31:57.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't mean flirtatious in the way where I think

0:31:58.280 --> 0:32:01.720
<v Speaker 1>there were lines crossed. I just mean there was a

0:32:01.840 --> 0:32:04.120
<v Speaker 1>good working relationship between the two of them in the beginning.

0:32:04.200 --> 0:32:07.920
<v Speaker 2>They were comfortable before the strikes, right, Like, what would

0:32:07.960 --> 0:32:10.640
<v Speaker 2>be an example, even if you're just paraphrase, just she.

0:32:10.720 --> 0:32:13.080
<v Speaker 1>Sends him lots of text praising him and how they're

0:32:13.120 --> 0:32:16.000
<v Speaker 1>working together and they're collaborating, and she's so excited to

0:32:16.040 --> 0:32:18.240
<v Speaker 1>be on this journey with him and they're going to

0:32:18.280 --> 0:32:19.160
<v Speaker 1>make this great.

0:32:18.920 --> 0:32:22.840
<v Speaker 2>Movie, basically saying I'm not uncomfortable with you, right, Okay,

0:32:22.840 --> 0:32:26.040
<v Speaker 2>who's better looking Ryan or what was his name? Justin?

0:32:26.400 --> 0:32:26.600
<v Speaker 1>Oh?

0:32:26.800 --> 0:32:27.040
<v Speaker 2>Justin?

0:32:27.440 --> 0:32:29.920
<v Speaker 1>Oh? Yeah, oh yeah, like hands down.

0:32:30.600 --> 0:32:33.840
<v Speaker 2>But Ryan's considered good looking.

0:32:33.960 --> 0:32:35.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean he's not a bad looking guy. I

0:32:35.480 --> 0:32:39.440
<v Speaker 1>think he's good looking. But I think Justin Baldoni's beautiful, Like,

0:32:39.480 --> 0:32:42.040
<v Speaker 1>he's a beautiful man. You ask.

0:32:42.240 --> 0:32:46.160
<v Speaker 2>So, I don't know. I heard his nose is pretty big,

0:32:46.720 --> 0:32:48.240
<v Speaker 2>so he might want to reconcined.

0:32:48.240 --> 0:32:49.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. That doesn't bother me. I told you,

0:32:58.320 --> 0:33:03.360
<v Speaker 1>let's talk about Maybe there is the possibility that Ryan

0:33:03.440 --> 0:33:07.920
<v Speaker 1>Reynolds read some of the text messages between Justin and Blake.

0:33:08.120 --> 0:33:08.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:33:08.360 --> 0:33:11.560
<v Speaker 1>Sure, because some of the text messages that he includes

0:33:11.560 --> 0:33:13.880
<v Speaker 1>in his complaints are flirty, and we talked about this

0:33:13.880 --> 0:33:18.400
<v Speaker 1>a little bit before. Yeah, they're definitely not just work related.

0:33:18.480 --> 0:33:21.560
<v Speaker 1>They get into you know, there's there's a text exchange

0:33:21.600 --> 0:33:24.560
<v Speaker 1>where he says something to the effect of like, oh,

0:33:24.680 --> 0:33:27.000
<v Speaker 1>I like nice Blake or I like vulnerable Blake. I

0:33:27.040 --> 0:33:28.880
<v Speaker 1>don't remember what it was, and she said, oh, you

0:33:28.920 --> 0:33:31.360
<v Speaker 1>mean instead of asshole Blake and he's like, yeah, I

0:33:31.360 --> 0:33:35.320
<v Speaker 1>don't know. They just they're being friendly, maybe too friendly.

0:33:35.360 --> 0:33:38.080
<v Speaker 1>But I think, to me, I think he's just going

0:33:38.160 --> 0:33:41.760
<v Speaker 1>with whatever direction she goes in, so that he's just

0:33:41.840 --> 0:33:44.200
<v Speaker 1>kind of on the same page with her. But let's

0:33:44.200 --> 0:33:47.040
<v Speaker 1>say maybe Ryan Reynolds got a hold of her phone

0:33:47.280 --> 0:33:50.160
<v Speaker 1>saw these text messages between the two of them also.

0:33:50.120 --> 0:33:53.760
<v Speaker 2>Which added to the concern that he had right her

0:33:53.840 --> 0:33:55.240
<v Speaker 2>and being close to the co star.

0:33:55.480 --> 0:33:57.960
<v Speaker 1>Right, So maybe if we look at it as he's

0:33:58.200 --> 0:34:00.560
<v Speaker 1>he's seen this raw footage of the two of them together,

0:34:00.760 --> 0:34:02.760
<v Speaker 1>the chemistry between them is palpable.

0:34:03.480 --> 0:34:08.880
<v Speaker 2>Knows who knows what Blake old Ryan to explain. He says,

0:34:08.920 --> 0:34:12.320
<v Speaker 2>what are these text messages? And then she has to say, oh,

0:34:12.360 --> 0:34:16.680
<v Speaker 2>he smelled me when we were dancing it, right, So

0:34:17.360 --> 0:34:22.120
<v Speaker 2>I think that it might just be a conglomeration of

0:34:22.880 --> 0:34:25.319
<v Speaker 2>he's a good looking guy, this is his movie.

0:34:25.440 --> 0:34:29.120
<v Speaker 1>He's the director, he's the producer. They have an intimate

0:34:29.160 --> 0:34:31.840
<v Speaker 1>working relationship. I think they get friendly in the beginning,

0:34:31.880 --> 0:34:34.000
<v Speaker 1>and they have a lot of friendly banter. I think

0:34:34.040 --> 0:34:36.120
<v Speaker 1>they also spend a lot of time together because she

0:34:36.160 --> 0:34:39.200
<v Speaker 1>wants to rewrite all these scenes and rework things, and

0:34:39.239 --> 0:34:41.840
<v Speaker 1>he says in his complaint that they spend long hours

0:34:41.840 --> 0:34:46.520
<v Speaker 1>together into the night, laughing and rewriting scenes together. I

0:34:46.560 --> 0:34:50.200
<v Speaker 1>think maybe not only was Ryan jealous of maybe what

0:34:50.320 --> 0:34:52.719
<v Speaker 1>he saw in these dailies when she starts asking for

0:34:52.760 --> 0:34:55.800
<v Speaker 1>this raw footage, but also the text messages the rapport

0:34:55.920 --> 0:34:58.600
<v Speaker 1>between them, because to me, it seems like there was

0:34:58.760 --> 0:35:02.839
<v Speaker 1>such a shift from the first half of the movie

0:35:02.840 --> 0:35:06.120
<v Speaker 1>being filmed yeah, to the second half that maybe Ryan

0:35:06.160 --> 0:35:08.799
<v Speaker 1>Reynolds came in put his foot down and said, we're

0:35:08.800 --> 0:35:10.600
<v Speaker 1>going to squash this guy. He's not going to talk

0:35:10.640 --> 0:35:11.960
<v Speaker 1>to my wife like that. He's not going to get

0:35:11.960 --> 0:35:13.040
<v Speaker 1>close to my wife like that.

0:35:13.640 --> 0:35:16.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm a Deadpool. I am dead Pool. This is not

0:35:16.640 --> 0:35:18.800
<v Speaker 2>a robber. So wow.

0:35:19.120 --> 0:35:23.120
<v Speaker 1>Anyway, here's my final thought on the ten minute scene

0:35:23.120 --> 0:35:23.840
<v Speaker 1>that was released.

0:35:25.400 --> 0:35:28.880
<v Speaker 2>Oh wait, that ten minutes unedited yes, it's just raw footage,

0:35:28.920 --> 0:35:32.279
<v Speaker 2>ten minutes of them dancing right and talking. Well, they're

0:35:32.320 --> 0:35:34.520
<v Speaker 2>just capturing footage, right, Okay, go ahead.

0:35:35.120 --> 0:35:38.160
<v Speaker 1>And then she says in her complaint that he, you know,

0:35:38.400 --> 0:35:40.919
<v Speaker 1>kissed her down her neck and said it smells so good,

0:35:41.000 --> 0:35:44.680
<v Speaker 1>which sounds so creepy, but I tell you smell good

0:35:44.680 --> 0:35:47.759
<v Speaker 1>all the time. Yeah, okay, it sounds a little creepy.

0:35:48.080 --> 0:35:52.040
<v Speaker 1>But when you watch the actual footage, she she says,

0:35:52.080 --> 0:35:54.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry about my spray tond and you know, my

0:35:54.640 --> 0:35:57.000
<v Speaker 1>body makeup or whatever, and he goes, no, it smells good.

0:35:57.520 --> 0:35:58.800
<v Speaker 1>That's completely different.

0:35:58.840 --> 0:36:00.360
<v Speaker 2>Well, that was very nice of him, because I know,

0:36:00.600 --> 0:36:02.160
<v Speaker 2>first hands very handsy, not small.

0:36:02.520 --> 0:36:04.799
<v Speaker 1>They don't. I was being very he was being kind.

0:36:04.880 --> 0:36:06.440
<v Speaker 1>I think he was being kind trying to make her

0:36:06.440 --> 0:36:10.960
<v Speaker 1>feel comfortable. Anyway, my takeaway is that you're talking about

0:36:11.000 --> 0:36:14.200
<v Speaker 1>a woman who has exerted control from day one over

0:36:14.239 --> 0:36:17.000
<v Speaker 1>this movie. She didn't want to meet with an intimacy coordinator.

0:36:17.360 --> 0:36:20.360
<v Speaker 1>She takes over the wardrobe, she rewrites scenes, she rewrites

0:36:20.360 --> 0:36:22.360
<v Speaker 1>the script, she asks for the dailies, she wants to

0:36:22.440 --> 0:36:25.160
<v Speaker 1>edit the movie herself. And you're gonna tell me that

0:36:25.239 --> 0:36:31.680
<v Speaker 1>she felt uncomfortable. Yeah, if if she was legitimately uncomfortable

0:36:31.719 --> 0:36:33.759
<v Speaker 1>and felt like it was to the level of a

0:36:33.920 --> 0:36:38.280
<v Speaker 1>sexual harassment allegation, you're gonna tell me that she wouldn't

0:36:38.320 --> 0:36:41.160
<v Speaker 1>walk away, that she wouldn't demand the intimacy coordinator.

0:36:41.320 --> 0:36:45.279
<v Speaker 2>Now know that Ryan Reynolds was involved, not saying it

0:36:45.320 --> 0:36:48.160
<v Speaker 2>was inappropriate, but he's in faulved of the script. You know,

0:36:48.239 --> 0:36:54.000
<v Speaker 2>he rewrote some scenes and all this stuff, and then

0:36:54.040 --> 0:36:57.080
<v Speaker 2>plus us thinking that he was jealous, right, and then

0:36:57.120 --> 0:36:59.000
<v Speaker 2>he's gonna let her get I'm sorry, if you came

0:36:59.000 --> 0:37:02.360
<v Speaker 2>home and we're telling me about someone at work that

0:37:02.480 --> 0:37:04.560
<v Speaker 2>was inappropriate to you or make you feel uncomfortable, I

0:37:04.560 --> 0:37:07.120
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't be like, oh well, let's just rewrite the scene.

0:37:07.160 --> 0:37:09.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh well, let's just not let him come to the premiere,

0:37:10.000 --> 0:37:12.160
<v Speaker 2>Oh well, let's just write this little thing with the

0:37:12.200 --> 0:37:15.160
<v Speaker 2>civil Board whatever. I would be like, no, let that's

0:37:15.200 --> 0:37:19.359
<v Speaker 2>either quit, like get away, or we need to do

0:37:19.400 --> 0:37:22.600
<v Speaker 2>something about this. So you're so liared.

0:37:22.680 --> 0:37:25.160
<v Speaker 1>So you're saying that all of these allegations would have

0:37:25.160 --> 0:37:27.839
<v Speaker 1>been addressed in the moment at that time, not later

0:37:27.920 --> 0:37:28.560
<v Speaker 1>in a lawsuit.

0:37:28.560 --> 0:37:31.880
<v Speaker 2>And I can appreciate that some people and maybe women

0:37:31.920 --> 0:37:35.080
<v Speaker 2>in this case might not until later, and there's many

0:37:35.160 --> 0:37:38.320
<v Speaker 2>reasons why people might hold off making a formal complaint.

0:37:38.320 --> 0:37:41.560
<v Speaker 2>I get that, But she had Ryan Reynolds backing her up,

0:37:42.000 --> 0:37:45.520
<v Speaker 2>and he is not uncomfortable in the workplace. He's very familiar,

0:37:45.960 --> 0:37:50.160
<v Speaker 2>they have resources, they have decades of experience to know

0:37:50.200 --> 0:37:53.160
<v Speaker 2>what's appropriate, inappropriate, they would have done something right then

0:37:53.200 --> 0:37:53.520
<v Speaker 2>and there.

0:37:53.840 --> 0:37:56.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't disagree with that, all right. I just want

0:37:56.200 --> 0:37:58.680
<v Speaker 1>to take one other thing from his complaint because I

0:37:58.719 --> 0:38:00.640
<v Speaker 1>have a feeling that if they end up releasing any

0:38:00.680 --> 0:38:03.000
<v Speaker 1>more raw footage, it will be this scene. That's just

0:38:03.120 --> 0:38:06.160
<v Speaker 1>me speculating, Okay, what is it? She also talks about

0:38:06.200 --> 0:38:10.080
<v Speaker 1>in her original complaint that she was very uncomfortable during

0:38:10.120 --> 0:38:12.640
<v Speaker 1>the birthing scene. There's a scene where she gives birth,

0:38:13.040 --> 0:38:15.000
<v Speaker 1>and she talks about how she only had like a

0:38:15.040 --> 0:38:19.320
<v Speaker 1>small strip of just like barely any fabric over her,

0:38:19.640 --> 0:38:20.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, nother region.

0:38:21.239 --> 0:38:24.319
<v Speaker 2>Okah, has she Oh? Okay, all right?

0:38:24.520 --> 0:38:26.839
<v Speaker 1>She claims that like the set's chaotic and that she's

0:38:26.880 --> 0:38:30.680
<v Speaker 1>basically just laying there naked, and that she's uncomfortable in

0:38:30.719 --> 0:38:33.680
<v Speaker 1>his complaint because then in her seventeen you know, she

0:38:33.880 --> 0:38:36.160
<v Speaker 1>lists out these seventeen protections that have to be in

0:38:36.200 --> 0:38:38.640
<v Speaker 1>place before she will go back and film the rest

0:38:38.640 --> 0:38:44.400
<v Speaker 1>of this movie. She claims that all the day players

0:38:44.480 --> 0:38:47.359
<v Speaker 1>must be hired through their talent agencies because the man

0:38:47.400 --> 0:38:50.480
<v Speaker 1>who played the obgyn in that scene was a friend

0:38:50.600 --> 0:38:54.000
<v Speaker 1>of Justin Baldoni's. So she makes it like he just

0:38:54.040 --> 0:38:57.040
<v Speaker 1>called his buddy and was like, hey, you want to

0:38:57.040 --> 0:38:59.920
<v Speaker 1>be the obguy N. You want to just you know,

0:39:00.000 --> 0:39:01.520
<v Speaker 1>I want to see Blake Lively.

0:39:01.960 --> 0:39:04.680
<v Speaker 2>You know it's only gonna be a little strip, and then.

0:39:05.239 --> 0:39:09.520
<v Speaker 1>This is a little buddy, come on in. He then,

0:39:09.600 --> 0:39:13.040
<v Speaker 1>in his complaint, makes it very clear that the man

0:39:13.080 --> 0:39:15.720
<v Speaker 1>who played the obg y N had like a master's

0:39:15.760 --> 0:39:17.920
<v Speaker 1>in Fine Arts from UCLA, that he was in a

0:39:17.960 --> 0:39:19.040
<v Speaker 1>touring group, that he.

0:39:19.800 --> 0:39:20.480
<v Speaker 2>Was he an actor.

0:39:20.840 --> 0:39:25.600
<v Speaker 1>He's a legitimate he's a legitimate actor. Also, he claims

0:39:25.800 --> 0:39:30.360
<v Speaker 1>that she had on a pregnancy suit, black briefs, and

0:39:30.440 --> 0:39:33.839
<v Speaker 1>a hospital gown. And so I feel like if they

0:39:33.880 --> 0:39:37.000
<v Speaker 1>release any other footage from this movie, like they did

0:39:37.040 --> 0:39:39.560
<v Speaker 1>with that other scene, this would be the scene that

0:39:39.840 --> 0:39:40.960
<v Speaker 1>just okay.

0:39:40.680 --> 0:39:42.960
<v Speaker 2>So we only have he said, she said, she's claiming

0:39:42.960 --> 0:39:44.920
<v Speaker 2>what she wore, and he's claiming that she had some

0:39:45.000 --> 0:39:49.160
<v Speaker 2>big pregnancy suit on with black pants or something or whatever,

0:39:49.200 --> 0:39:50.840
<v Speaker 2>something unattractive, right.

0:39:50.800 --> 0:39:55.080
<v Speaker 1>Right, So anyway, I think that's probably if they start

0:39:55.080 --> 0:39:56.759
<v Speaker 1>releasing scenes because.

0:39:56.760 --> 0:39:58.440
<v Speaker 2>He might have invited us, right, I'd been like, hey,

0:39:58.480 --> 0:40:00.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna flick with Blake Lively if you want, like

0:40:00.280 --> 0:40:02.680
<v Speaker 2>a good scene. Not necessarily like creepy. No, but they

0:40:02.680 --> 0:40:04.319
<v Speaker 2>could have been legitimate, like, hey, you know what, it'd

0:40:04.360 --> 0:40:06.120
<v Speaker 2>be kind of cool. He'd being with Blake Lightly. It's

0:40:06.120 --> 0:40:06.879
<v Speaker 2>a pretty big movie.

0:40:06.960 --> 0:40:09.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, No, I think his I think it was his friend,

0:40:09.239 --> 0:40:11.680
<v Speaker 1>but I think his friend was also a legitimate actor.

0:40:11.800 --> 0:40:13.680
<v Speaker 2>I know. But I'm saying it's it's fair for someone

0:40:13.680 --> 0:40:15.480
<v Speaker 2>to be like, hey, that would be like, like, hey,

0:40:15.520 --> 0:40:16.919
<v Speaker 2>you want to be in a little scene with Blake Lively.

0:40:16.960 --> 0:40:18.560
<v Speaker 2>That'd be pretty cool. Well, it didn't have to be

0:40:18.560 --> 0:40:21.760
<v Speaker 2>always be creepy to invite someone. They could have been legitimate,

0:40:21.800 --> 0:40:23.200
<v Speaker 2>like hey, this is the opportunity, you know, if you

0:40:23.200 --> 0:40:24.719
<v Speaker 2>want to be on share screen with her.

0:40:25.360 --> 0:40:29.880
<v Speaker 1>Also, Blake Lively's sister was in the movie. Oh yeah, yeah,

0:40:30.000 --> 0:40:33.439
<v Speaker 1>do you remember teams in the nineties. Yeah, that's her sister.

0:40:33.480 --> 0:40:34.320
<v Speaker 1>It's her half sister.

0:40:34.920 --> 0:40:36.560
<v Speaker 2>Are we talking Sabrina?

0:40:37.000 --> 0:40:39.200
<v Speaker 1>Not that teen which there is a movie called teen Witch.

0:40:39.239 --> 0:40:41.319
<v Speaker 1>It is from the nineties. My sister and I used

0:40:41.320 --> 0:40:42.959
<v Speaker 1>to watch it all the time. There was a rap

0:40:42.960 --> 0:40:45.200
<v Speaker 1>scene in it. If you guys listen, are you listening

0:40:45.200 --> 0:40:45.879
<v Speaker 1>to me right now?

0:40:46.320 --> 0:40:47.799
<v Speaker 2>Go google the rap.

0:40:47.560 --> 0:40:49.839
<v Speaker 1>Scene and teen witch. It will get stuck in your head.

0:40:50.239 --> 0:40:50.560
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

0:40:50.680 --> 0:40:51.280
<v Speaker 1>It is amazing.

0:40:51.360 --> 0:40:52.839
<v Speaker 2>There's no bewitch. That was the only one.

0:40:52.880 --> 0:40:54.279
<v Speaker 1>No, that's not what I'm talking I know, but that's

0:40:54.280 --> 0:40:56.479
<v Speaker 1>what I watched. All right, let's move on. I can't

0:40:56.480 --> 0:40:59.160
<v Speaker 1>go through the entire complaint because it is so much,

0:40:59.200 --> 0:41:01.240
<v Speaker 1>but I want to get to the end of this movie.

0:41:01.280 --> 0:41:03.800
<v Speaker 2>So well, wait, hold on, one hundred and eighty pages.

0:41:03.880 --> 0:41:07.120
<v Speaker 2>It's all pretty substantive, right, Like, he's back in area.

0:41:07.120 --> 0:41:09.879
<v Speaker 2>It's not one hundred eighty pages of fluff. No, and

0:41:10.000 --> 0:41:14.520
<v Speaker 2>just whining. He's got stuff to back up all his allegations. Yeah.

0:41:14.520 --> 0:41:18.240
<v Speaker 1>And on that note, his attorney, Brian Friedman, also made

0:41:18.360 --> 0:41:20.879
<v Speaker 1>an announcement that they are going to create a website

0:41:21.840 --> 0:41:24.279
<v Speaker 1>and they are just going to release everything. Oh yeah,

0:41:24.440 --> 0:41:27.680
<v Speaker 1>raw footage, transparency, messages, all of it.

0:41:27.840 --> 0:41:29.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, release the files.

0:41:30.040 --> 0:41:30.920
<v Speaker 1>Released the dragon.

0:41:31.040 --> 0:41:33.000
<v Speaker 2>Yes, it's the cracking, but.

0:41:33.000 --> 0:41:36.160
<v Speaker 1>Okay, oh the crack that's right, Release the krackt that's Okay,

0:41:36.200 --> 0:41:39.920
<v Speaker 1>that's right, all right, So she wants these seventeen protections

0:41:39.920 --> 0:41:41.719
<v Speaker 1>put in place. We've talked about that before in the

0:41:41.719 --> 0:41:44.319
<v Speaker 1>first podcast she returned. She refuses to return to work

0:41:44.400 --> 0:41:47.040
<v Speaker 1>unless they agree to these seventeen things. Also, I think

0:41:47.080 --> 0:41:49.920
<v Speaker 1>it's very important to note because this obviously is not

0:41:49.960 --> 0:41:53.200
<v Speaker 1>in her complaint, but those seventeen protections that she wants

0:41:53.239 --> 0:41:57.319
<v Speaker 1>in place. She sends them to Wayfairer and Sony. They

0:41:57.360 --> 0:42:00.879
<v Speaker 1>try to negotiate them. They're like, hey, you know these

0:42:01.000 --> 0:42:04.759
<v Speaker 1>allegations of harassment and not feeling comfortable and no intimacy

0:42:04.760 --> 0:42:05.920
<v Speaker 1>coordinator and nudity.

0:42:05.680 --> 0:42:09.600
<v Speaker 2>Almost like this appears to be in admission of guilt. We're

0:42:09.640 --> 0:42:10.080
<v Speaker 2>not going.

0:42:09.920 --> 0:42:11.959
<v Speaker 1>To We're not going to sign it as is. They try,

0:42:12.120 --> 0:42:15.680
<v Speaker 1>they try to alter it to make it more reflective.

0:42:15.400 --> 0:42:17.680
<v Speaker 2>Of maybe like going forward. Right.

0:42:18.080 --> 0:42:20.680
<v Speaker 1>She refuses to sign it her attorney. They have the

0:42:21.000 --> 0:42:24.520
<v Speaker 1>communications in here. The attorney writes back and basically says

0:42:24.760 --> 0:42:27.720
<v Speaker 1>these are non negotiable. She will not return and finish

0:42:27.800 --> 0:42:29.360
<v Speaker 1>this movie unless you sign it.

0:42:29.400 --> 0:42:31.040
<v Speaker 2>As she was holding the project hostage.

0:42:31.120 --> 0:42:33.959
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so they what are they going to do. They've

0:42:34.000 --> 0:42:36.719
<v Speaker 1>got millions of dollars invested in this, They've been on

0:42:36.800 --> 0:42:39.279
<v Speaker 1>strike for months. These people haven't been working, right. They

0:42:39.360 --> 0:42:42.080
<v Speaker 1>finally get to go back to work, and they cannot

0:42:42.080 --> 0:42:44.040
<v Speaker 1>finish this movie unless they.

0:42:43.760 --> 0:42:47.000
<v Speaker 2>Sign question how much filming was done after the strikes,

0:42:47.239 --> 0:42:47.919
<v Speaker 2>I would say they.

0:42:47.840 --> 0:42:49.840
<v Speaker 1>Only got about half half of the movie done.

0:42:50.239 --> 0:42:51.719
<v Speaker 2>Oh so you think it was like kind of in

0:42:51.719 --> 0:42:52.400
<v Speaker 2>the middle.

0:42:52.200 --> 0:42:52.719
<v Speaker 1>I believe so.

0:42:52.840 --> 0:42:53.120
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

0:42:53.960 --> 0:42:56.879
<v Speaker 1>So one of the conditions was, and we've talked about

0:42:56.880 --> 0:42:59.319
<v Speaker 1>this before, was the all hands in meeting that they

0:42:59.360 --> 0:43:01.600
<v Speaker 1>had to have. That's what they had at Blake Lively

0:43:01.640 --> 0:43:05.319
<v Speaker 1>and Ryan Reynolds's apartment and she invited everybody over. And

0:43:05.360 --> 0:43:07.759
<v Speaker 1>the way that his complaint makes it sounds is like

0:43:07.800 --> 0:43:10.520
<v Speaker 1>everybody comes with their their script binders because they're all

0:43:10.560 --> 0:43:12.360
<v Speaker 1>excited to talk about the movie, and then you know

0:43:12.360 --> 0:43:14.680
<v Speaker 1>how they're going to finish the movie, and they get

0:43:14.719 --> 0:43:18.719
<v Speaker 1>blindsided at this meeting at her house where she has

0:43:18.800 --> 0:43:22.239
<v Speaker 1>another list of grievances. There's like thirty of them, and

0:43:22.280 --> 0:43:25.600
<v Speaker 1>she reads them aloud, and I think everyone's sitting there like.

0:43:25.960 --> 0:43:28.200
<v Speaker 2>She didn't get the reaction she wanted from them. Whatever

0:43:28.239 --> 0:43:30.520
<v Speaker 2>that was, I don't know. I thought She's like, oh, okay,

0:43:30.520 --> 0:43:31.719
<v Speaker 2>then I'm going to have to she.

0:43:31.640 --> 0:43:37.200
<v Speaker 1>Reads them aloud. Apparently Ryan Reynolds attacks Justin Baldoni and

0:43:37.239 --> 0:43:41.800
<v Speaker 1>he berates him. It's chaotic. I don't know. They claim

0:43:41.840 --> 0:43:44.319
<v Speaker 1>that a Sony representative that was there said they've never

0:43:44.320 --> 0:43:46.879
<v Speaker 1>seen anyone go off on somebody like that.

0:43:46.800 --> 0:43:48.839
<v Speaker 2>Before, and they were between Ryan and Justin.

0:43:49.000 --> 0:43:50.279
<v Speaker 1>Yes, and they regret not.

0:43:52.600 --> 0:43:55.520
<v Speaker 2>I will man put that on a website.

0:43:55.760 --> 0:44:00.560
<v Speaker 1>Right, So, anyway, if this continues to go further, obviously

0:44:00.600 --> 0:44:02.719
<v Speaker 1>we're going to get into discovery, We're going to get

0:44:02.800 --> 0:44:06.160
<v Speaker 1>into witnesses, We're going to get into people testifying.

0:44:06.440 --> 0:44:08.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this is I hope it goes to trial. You

0:44:08.840 --> 0:44:11.279
<v Speaker 2>want it to go trast This is a want to

0:44:11.320 --> 0:44:14.920
<v Speaker 2>put people, you know, put her on the stand, you know. Yeah,

0:44:15.120 --> 0:44:17.799
<v Speaker 2>she friends with the Amber heard by any chance? Did

0:44:17.840 --> 0:44:19.120
<v Speaker 2>they have any relationship?

0:44:19.280 --> 0:44:19.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

0:44:20.560 --> 0:44:21.680
<v Speaker 2>Seems like they would get along.

0:44:21.760 --> 0:44:24.680
<v Speaker 1>So this meeting takes place on January fourth. They finished

0:44:24.680 --> 0:44:27.320
<v Speaker 1>the movie starting January fifth, I think January fifth to

0:44:27.400 --> 0:44:30.480
<v Speaker 1>February something, they finished the movie. She claims in her

0:44:30.480 --> 0:44:32.759
<v Speaker 1>complaint that there were no further issues in any of this.

0:44:33.200 --> 0:44:35.960
<v Speaker 1>So then we go into editing. Right, we finished that,

0:44:35.960 --> 0:44:37.880
<v Speaker 1>We've got all the raw footage, we have to edit it.

0:44:38.640 --> 0:44:41.319
<v Speaker 1>She starts reaching out to Justin. She wants to help edit.

0:44:41.520 --> 0:44:43.560
<v Speaker 1>She wants two days in the editing bay again.

0:44:43.680 --> 0:44:46.000
<v Speaker 2>Let's again. She wasn't hired to be an editor.

0:44:46.040 --> 0:44:48.680
<v Speaker 1>She's not an editor. That's not within her scope of employment.

0:44:49.080 --> 0:44:51.960
<v Speaker 1>I think Sony is like, you know, walking on eggshells

0:44:52.000 --> 0:44:55.279
<v Speaker 1>around her, like, oh, let her go in. She ends

0:44:55.360 --> 0:44:58.480
<v Speaker 1>up taking over the editing and cutting her own version

0:44:58.480 --> 0:45:00.959
<v Speaker 1>of the movie. There are two versions of this movie.

0:45:00.960 --> 0:45:02.879
<v Speaker 2>I wanted is cash my check and gone home. I'd

0:45:02.880 --> 0:45:04.520
<v Speaker 2>be like, you edited, I'm done.

0:45:05.000 --> 0:45:07.680
<v Speaker 1>Well, I think you can tell this man is broken

0:45:07.719 --> 0:45:08.200
<v Speaker 1>at this point.

0:45:08.280 --> 0:45:10.040
<v Speaker 2>You know I'm talking no no, no, no no no. I'm

0:45:10.040 --> 0:45:12.319
<v Speaker 2>talking like if I was Blake Lively. Oh, I'd like

0:45:12.360 --> 0:45:13.720
<v Speaker 2>cash my check and I'm done.

0:45:14.040 --> 0:45:15.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, let me just I just want to read you

0:45:15.680 --> 0:45:20.640
<v Speaker 1>this text. This is in June, right before they like

0:45:20.680 --> 0:45:22.680
<v Speaker 1>the movie is going to be released in August. And

0:45:22.960 --> 0:45:25.080
<v Speaker 1>he texts someone. I think it's a producer somebody, and

0:45:25.120 --> 0:45:28.279
<v Speaker 1>he says, this is his text. She's kicked me out

0:45:28.280 --> 0:45:31.000
<v Speaker 1>officially from the film. Now she's finishing it all. I

0:45:31.040 --> 0:45:36.120
<v Speaker 1>can't be involved music, sound, VFX everything. I'll make it

0:45:36.160 --> 0:45:38.280
<v Speaker 1>through somehow. I just need to feel.

0:45:38.080 --> 0:45:40.000
<v Speaker 2>It all this is from to who.

0:45:40.880 --> 0:45:43.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't I think it's to an editor.

0:45:43.000 --> 0:45:45.279
<v Speaker 2>Okay, but is it kind of paste it in there

0:45:45.360 --> 0:45:47.640
<v Speaker 2>to show that, yeah, how he was feeling.

0:45:47.680 --> 0:45:50.880
<v Speaker 1>That's how he felt at that time. He's just basically saying,

0:45:51.560 --> 0:45:56.359
<v Speaker 1>I've lost this movie. Like she's completely taken over. She's

0:45:56.520 --> 0:45:58.960
<v Speaker 1>edited her own version. I'm not even allowed in the

0:45:59.080 --> 0:46:02.919
<v Speaker 1>editing bay anymore. Or she's cut her own like she's

0:46:02.960 --> 0:46:05.680
<v Speaker 1>cut her version and he has his version. So there's

0:46:05.680 --> 0:46:10.040
<v Speaker 1>two competing versions. Yeah, then I know they do the test.

0:46:10.080 --> 0:46:11.560
<v Speaker 1>I think we talked about this before where they do

0:46:11.600 --> 0:46:13.480
<v Speaker 1>the focus group and they test like which one.

0:46:13.360 --> 0:46:14.799
<v Speaker 2>Does better, which one did better?

0:46:14.920 --> 0:46:15.680
<v Speaker 1>His did better.

0:46:15.719 --> 0:46:17.000
<v Speaker 2>But then, of course because she.

0:46:17.440 --> 0:46:20.279
<v Speaker 1>Wanted her version used, where she refused to promote the

0:46:20.320 --> 0:46:23.360
<v Speaker 1>movie unless her version was used, there.

0:46:23.280 --> 0:46:25.920
<v Speaker 2>Is and there's text or something to show that.

0:46:26.120 --> 0:46:27.839
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, then there is.

0:46:28.600 --> 0:46:30.480
<v Speaker 2>Man Jesus gets worse and worse.

0:46:30.640 --> 0:46:35.000
<v Speaker 1>Then there's some communications between him and some editors are

0:46:35.080 --> 0:46:39.600
<v Speaker 1>producers where they've heard through the grapevine that Sony is

0:46:39.600 --> 0:46:42.600
<v Speaker 1>trying to incorporate his version back into her version.

0:46:42.680 --> 0:46:44.680
<v Speaker 2>Well, probably because the focus groups told them to do.

0:46:44.600 --> 0:46:49.160
<v Speaker 1>That, right anyway, we get to also, I have to

0:46:49.200 --> 0:46:51.960
<v Speaker 1>also add because I think this is important. She fires

0:46:52.160 --> 0:46:55.560
<v Speaker 1>editors and hires Ryan Reynolds editors, and she fires.

0:46:55.239 --> 0:46:58.760
<v Speaker 2>The composer who are the editor she filed fired fired.

0:46:59.040 --> 0:46:59.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. It didn't get me.

0:47:00.160 --> 0:47:02.320
<v Speaker 2>I mean, like it was the ones that were originally

0:47:02.400 --> 0:47:05.399
<v Speaker 2>hired for the movie. Yes, how can she fire them?

0:47:05.480 --> 0:47:06.640
<v Speaker 2>She's not even paying them.

0:47:06.880 --> 0:47:09.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't know. She gets rid of

0:47:09.239 --> 0:47:12.240
<v Speaker 1>the composer that they've hired and she uses Ryan Reynolds composer.

0:47:12.440 --> 0:47:15.440
<v Speaker 1>I think the problem is Sony, who's distributing this movie,

0:47:15.840 --> 0:47:18.200
<v Speaker 1>is walking on eggshells with her too. Yeah, and so

0:47:18.239 --> 0:47:20.040
<v Speaker 1>they're just kind of like, hey, just let her do

0:47:20.080 --> 0:47:22.560
<v Speaker 1>whatever she wants. Let's just keep her happy. She won't

0:47:22.560 --> 0:47:24.120
<v Speaker 1>promote the movie unless.

0:47:23.840 --> 0:47:25.480
<v Speaker 2>And then you wonder, and I don't know if you

0:47:25.480 --> 0:47:27.719
<v Speaker 2>have the answer, is Ryan or Reynolds like affiliate with

0:47:27.760 --> 0:47:29.839
<v Speaker 2>Sony where maybe Sony's thinking, like we got these other

0:47:29.880 --> 0:47:31.960
<v Speaker 2>deals with Ryan, like we don't want to ruin this,

0:47:32.800 --> 0:47:34.680
<v Speaker 2>I you know what I mean, Like, I know he

0:47:34.920 --> 0:47:37.040
<v Speaker 2>was considered when they thought, hey, let's.

0:47:36.800 --> 0:47:49.440
<v Speaker 1>Just do whatever, right, So this movie is now ready

0:47:49.560 --> 0:47:53.920
<v Speaker 1>to premiere. In August of twenty twenty four, there is

0:47:54.000 --> 0:47:56.759
<v Speaker 1>a movie premiere which is you know you've been to

0:47:56.760 --> 0:47:57.600
<v Speaker 1>a movie premiere before.

0:47:57.680 --> 0:48:00.600
<v Speaker 2>I know I haven't. I have go to see him

0:48:00.600 --> 0:48:01.200
<v Speaker 2>on the first day.

0:48:01.200 --> 0:48:03.520
<v Speaker 1>They're really there's red carpet, the whole thing.

0:48:04.000 --> 0:48:07.360
<v Speaker 2>Wait, weren't you supposed to go to this premiere? You

0:48:07.440 --> 0:48:08.600
<v Speaker 2>were invited to the premiere?

0:48:08.800 --> 0:48:13.480
<v Speaker 1>No, I don't think I was invited to. Yes, I

0:48:13.520 --> 0:48:17.000
<v Speaker 1>know Colleen Hoover. I've been friendly with Colleen Hoover for

0:48:17.120 --> 0:48:19.600
<v Speaker 1>years and years. We were on Watch What Happens Live together.

0:48:20.480 --> 0:48:23.239
<v Speaker 1>I like and Brandon, the guy that plays Alice, was

0:48:23.280 --> 0:48:25.360
<v Speaker 1>on Watch What Happens Live. He was the bartender. I

0:48:25.400 --> 0:48:27.400
<v Speaker 1>had no idea any of this was going on. This

0:48:27.480 --> 0:48:33.760
<v Speaker 1>was a missed operation. I had no idea at.

0:48:33.600 --> 0:48:35.520
<v Speaker 2>All any of this tension was going on.

0:48:36.320 --> 0:48:39.279
<v Speaker 1>So I I just you know, I was always a

0:48:39.320 --> 0:48:41.200
<v Speaker 1>big fan. I'm still a big fan of Colleen Hoover.

0:48:41.400 --> 0:48:45.320
<v Speaker 2>I do know's nothing to do with the quality of writing.

0:48:45.400 --> 0:48:50.120
<v Speaker 1>She has deactivated her Instagram anymore. I don't know. I mean,

0:48:50.480 --> 0:48:53.040
<v Speaker 1>I would say it. It probably has to do with everything

0:48:53.080 --> 0:48:55.600
<v Speaker 1>that's going on with Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni. I

0:48:55.640 --> 0:48:59.400
<v Speaker 1>can only imagine the fans probably attacking her on her

0:48:59.440 --> 0:49:02.319
<v Speaker 1>Instagram because she did come out right from the get

0:49:02.400 --> 0:49:08.719
<v Speaker 1>go and supported Blake. Probably not the smartest thing to.

0:49:08.800 --> 0:49:12.640
<v Speaker 2>Do too quick, I think. But also yeah, I feel

0:49:12.680 --> 0:49:15.240
<v Speaker 2>for her because I bet you as an author, that's

0:49:15.360 --> 0:49:19.040
<v Speaker 2>that's her strength. And then she has Instagram to promote

0:49:19.040 --> 0:49:21.080
<v Speaker 2>her book and she probably got a lot of praise.

0:49:21.320 --> 0:49:24.479
<v Speaker 2>Books got a lot of praise, and she didn't sign

0:49:24.600 --> 0:49:29.040
<v Speaker 2>up for like people attacking her for this actor that

0:49:29.120 --> 0:49:31.799
<v Speaker 2>didn't like this actor, Like she's really got nothing to

0:49:31.840 --> 0:49:32.319
<v Speaker 2>do with that.

0:49:32.680 --> 0:49:33.759
<v Speaker 1>No, I think that.

0:49:33.840 --> 0:49:35.840
<v Speaker 2>Which is also why she should have not said anything.

0:49:36.239 --> 0:49:38.600
<v Speaker 2>Probably it doesn't I'm not faulting her for saying anything.

0:49:38.640 --> 0:49:40.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying I don't think she should have right.

0:49:40.640 --> 0:49:42.400
<v Speaker 1>So we get to the premiere of this movie in

0:49:42.400 --> 0:49:45.959
<v Speaker 1>August of twenty twenty four. Initially, Blake Lively says, Justin

0:49:46.000 --> 0:49:48.480
<v Speaker 1>Baldoni can't be there at all, period. He's not allowed.

0:49:49.480 --> 0:49:51.879
<v Speaker 1>It's not allowed to go. Of course, not can't be there.

0:49:51.960 --> 0:49:53.839
<v Speaker 2>He's a lead star and he ran the whole movie

0:49:53.840 --> 0:49:56.600
<v Speaker 2>and directed it and everything. I mean, he should be there.

0:49:57.160 --> 0:49:58.919
<v Speaker 2>They have to ry Reynolds there.

0:49:59.440 --> 0:50:02.279
<v Speaker 1>I don't even if he was there, they have to

0:50:02.640 --> 0:50:07.799
<v Speaker 1>negotiate to allow him to be at the premiere and

0:50:08.080 --> 0:50:12.200
<v Speaker 1>during the negotiations it is so they put into place

0:50:12.440 --> 0:50:14.600
<v Speaker 1>that he is allowed to go, but he has to

0:50:14.600 --> 0:50:15.800
<v Speaker 1>be in a separate theater.

0:50:17.000 --> 0:50:17.800
<v Speaker 2>That's not going.

0:50:17.840 --> 0:50:19.080
<v Speaker 1>Then he's in a separate theater.

0:50:19.200 --> 0:50:20.400
<v Speaker 2>Do you have a different red carpet?

0:50:21.000 --> 0:50:22.600
<v Speaker 1>No, but he cannot be on the risk the red

0:50:22.640 --> 0:50:25.160
<v Speaker 1>carpet the same time as her. He has to be

0:50:25.160 --> 0:50:27.960
<v Speaker 1>in a different holding area like him and his friends.

0:50:27.960 --> 0:50:30.200
<v Speaker 1>And all the wayfair people are held in like this

0:50:30.280 --> 0:50:34.120
<v Speaker 1>basement area. They took photos of it. There's there's drinks,

0:50:34.160 --> 0:50:37.239
<v Speaker 1>like drinks all around them. It's just like a you know,

0:50:37.719 --> 0:50:39.200
<v Speaker 1>some basement.

0:50:38.800 --> 0:50:41.520
<v Speaker 2>Area where she can't be okay with all, She's got

0:50:41.520 --> 0:50:43.360
<v Speaker 2>to be embarrassed at all. This is surfacing, I.

0:50:43.640 --> 0:50:46.520
<v Speaker 1>Don't know, but we can we can throw some of

0:50:46.520 --> 0:50:49.040
<v Speaker 1>the images up there of him with his family and

0:50:49.080 --> 0:50:52.120
<v Speaker 1>his friends being held in like this basement area. Because

0:50:52.120 --> 0:50:53.600
<v Speaker 1>he's not allowed to be on the red carpet the

0:50:53.600 --> 0:50:55.920
<v Speaker 1>same time as her. He has to be he has

0:50:55.960 --> 0:50:58.680
<v Speaker 1>to premiere the movie for the first time. This first

0:50:58.680 --> 0:50:59.720
<v Speaker 1>time he gets to see.

0:50:59.520 --> 0:51:01.719
<v Speaker 2>It, well, see it on a big screen, right, Well, no.

0:51:01.760 --> 0:51:04.000
<v Speaker 1>See it. He doesn't know what the cut is. Oh,

0:51:04.680 --> 0:51:06.080
<v Speaker 1>this is the first time he gets to see it.

0:51:06.120 --> 0:51:08.840
<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, he's not allowed to go to the after party.

0:51:09.120 --> 0:51:13.160
<v Speaker 1>He has to finance his own after party for his

0:51:13.239 --> 0:51:16.880
<v Speaker 1>family and friends. He can't go to the other the

0:51:16.960 --> 0:51:20.000
<v Speaker 1>other party that he paid for because this is wayfairer

0:51:20.080 --> 0:51:21.400
<v Speaker 1>that pays for all of this stuff.

0:51:21.480 --> 0:51:23.680
<v Speaker 2>Dude, why didn't he just dumper at this point the

0:51:23.680 --> 0:51:24.560
<v Speaker 2>movie's already done?

0:51:24.640 --> 0:51:26.479
<v Speaker 1>Well, what do you mean dump her? How's he gonna

0:51:26.480 --> 0:51:26.960
<v Speaker 1>What does that mean?

0:51:27.080 --> 0:51:28.680
<v Speaker 2>Make her not allowed to govern? The premiere?

0:51:28.760 --> 0:51:29.560
<v Speaker 1>He has power?

0:51:30.000 --> 0:51:33.360
<v Speaker 2>Why don't know? Does he not have any power? In

0:51:33.400 --> 0:51:35.359
<v Speaker 2>the beginning? I understudies trying to make sure the movie

0:51:35.360 --> 0:51:38.520
<v Speaker 2>gets done, and she's smiling. But now it's done.

0:51:39.440 --> 0:51:42.160
<v Speaker 1>So because I think.

0:51:42.320 --> 0:51:44.520
<v Speaker 2>He's probably know why because he's probably a nice guy.

0:51:44.920 --> 0:51:47.840
<v Speaker 2>I think he probably is one to not have confrontation

0:51:47.920 --> 0:51:49.600
<v Speaker 2>and want to keep peace and just get the movie

0:51:49.600 --> 0:51:51.560
<v Speaker 2>out there, right, So it's a little bit showing it

0:51:51.640 --> 0:51:52.120
<v Speaker 2>his character.

0:51:52.200 --> 0:51:54.400
<v Speaker 1>Okay. Also, I just want to this is important too,

0:51:54.400 --> 0:51:56.040
<v Speaker 1>because I think this goes to the heart of who

0:51:56.040 --> 0:51:59.040
<v Speaker 1>he is. The cast ends up on following him on Instagram.

0:51:59.160 --> 0:52:02.279
<v Speaker 1>I think that was all basically had to be done

0:52:02.360 --> 0:52:05.919
<v Speaker 1>with the thing. I think that had to do with

0:52:06.080 --> 0:52:08.680
<v Speaker 1>Blake or Ryan or whatever, just setting up that he

0:52:08.760 --> 0:52:10.600
<v Speaker 1>wasn't a good guy and that they shouldn't have anything

0:52:10.600 --> 0:52:12.040
<v Speaker 1>to do with him. But I do want to read

0:52:12.080 --> 0:52:14.719
<v Speaker 1>this text that he included in his complaint. This is

0:52:14.719 --> 0:52:18.360
<v Speaker 1>a text from the girl named Isabella Ferrer who played

0:52:18.600 --> 0:52:22.200
<v Speaker 1>the young Oh yes, okay, okay, she played young Lily.

0:52:22.680 --> 0:52:23.600
<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay.

0:52:24.080 --> 0:52:27.600
<v Speaker 1>She sends this to Justin Baldoni after finished filming.

0:52:27.600 --> 0:52:29.520
<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, go ahead and read it.

0:52:29.800 --> 0:52:32.920
<v Speaker 1>Hey just got my film developed from when we were shooting,

0:52:32.960 --> 0:52:35.560
<v Speaker 1>So here's the sweet pick. I also have to say

0:52:35.600 --> 0:52:38.040
<v Speaker 1>thank you so so much for an incredible experience on

0:52:38.080 --> 0:52:40.680
<v Speaker 1>my first film. I still can't shake the feeling of

0:52:40.680 --> 0:52:42.840
<v Speaker 1>it all because it truly was life changing for me.

0:52:43.280 --> 0:52:46.279
<v Speaker 1>You are such a wonderful, smart and sincere director, and

0:52:46.360 --> 0:52:48.960
<v Speaker 1>you created such a comfortable, safe space for me to

0:52:49.000 --> 0:52:51.600
<v Speaker 1>feel like I could fully step into this role. I

0:52:51.600 --> 0:52:54.600
<v Speaker 1>couldn't have asked for a more welcoming environment. It will

0:52:54.640 --> 0:52:56.879
<v Speaker 1>stay with me the rest of my life. See you soon,

0:52:57.000 --> 0:52:59.000
<v Speaker 1>whether in the fall or later, and I hope you're

0:52:59.000 --> 0:53:01.160
<v Speaker 1>doing well, and I'll do.

0:53:01.160 --> 0:53:05.200
<v Speaker 2>You want my thoughts on that. It certainly is not harmful,

0:53:05.800 --> 0:53:08.080
<v Speaker 2>but she's inexperienced as her first movie. Of course she's

0:53:08.080 --> 0:53:09.400
<v Speaker 2>going to kiss up to the boss and say it

0:53:09.400 --> 0:53:11.560
<v Speaker 2>was awesome. I know, but I'm just say she certainly

0:53:11.560 --> 0:53:14.000
<v Speaker 2>didn't make complaints either. It helps him, no.

0:53:14.000 --> 0:53:16.840
<v Speaker 1>But I'm saying this is how she legitimately felt after

0:53:16.880 --> 0:53:20.200
<v Speaker 1>she filmed her movie with Justin BELLDONI then she later

0:53:20.680 --> 0:53:27.000
<v Speaker 1>follows h I'm saying she to me she was coerced

0:53:27.760 --> 0:53:29.880
<v Speaker 1>because if you see her walk on the Red carpet,

0:53:29.960 --> 0:53:32.560
<v Speaker 1>she comes on the red carpet with Blake Lively, she

0:53:32.719 --> 0:53:35.200
<v Speaker 1>was styled by Blake, she wore a dress that Blake

0:53:35.200 --> 0:53:38.320
<v Speaker 1>told her to wear. She wore Blake's shoes. I think Blake.

0:53:38.760 --> 0:53:43.319
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So here we are, she's besties with Blake, are

0:53:43.360 --> 0:53:47.600
<v Speaker 2>wanting to be right, starstruck with her opportunity to be

0:53:47.640 --> 0:53:51.280
<v Speaker 2>in a movie with some A listers, right, And then

0:53:52.120 --> 0:53:55.200
<v Speaker 2>you'd think she would have picked up on some vibes

0:53:55.880 --> 0:54:00.840
<v Speaker 2>of the supposed sexual harassment or whatever or professionalism with

0:54:00.920 --> 0:54:06.520
<v Speaker 2>Belt with Justin. But she didn't. She didn't, So whether

0:54:06.560 --> 0:54:09.839
<v Speaker 2>she's kissing him or not, had she probably didn't hear

0:54:09.920 --> 0:54:12.200
<v Speaker 2>anything from Blake about any problems.

0:54:12.600 --> 0:54:15.240
<v Speaker 1>No, because I would assume that if she was aware

0:54:15.280 --> 0:54:17.719
<v Speaker 1>of that or she thought those things were actually going on,

0:54:17.880 --> 0:54:18.920
<v Speaker 1>or she thought.

0:54:18.840 --> 0:54:21.240
<v Speaker 2>Right she had some wind of anything that she wouldn't

0:54:21.280 --> 0:54:23.640
<v Speaker 2>have sent it. If she's as close to Blake as

0:54:23.640 --> 0:54:25.640
<v Speaker 2>she was in filming, she probably would have had wind

0:54:25.680 --> 0:54:26.440
<v Speaker 2>of something right.

0:54:26.920 --> 0:54:29.399
<v Speaker 1>So to me, that text is very telling. I thought

0:54:29.400 --> 0:54:29.600
<v Speaker 1>it was.

0:54:29.760 --> 0:54:30.839
<v Speaker 2>Did she changed her to now?

0:54:31.520 --> 0:54:33.919
<v Speaker 1>I don't think anyone knows what to say all these acts.

0:54:34.080 --> 0:54:36.240
<v Speaker 1>I think everyone came out and supported Blake in the beginning,

0:54:36.280 --> 0:54:38.320
<v Speaker 1>and now I think they're all radio silence.

0:54:38.560 --> 0:54:40.320
<v Speaker 2>Was Blake lightly really that big of a star? I

0:54:40.320 --> 0:54:41.839
<v Speaker 2>don't even remember what's she been in. I don't even

0:54:41.880 --> 0:54:42.600
<v Speaker 2>know what she's been in.

0:54:43.040 --> 0:54:45.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I would say so she was in the Sisterhood

0:54:45.960 --> 0:54:47.000
<v Speaker 1>of the Traveling Pants.

0:54:48.280 --> 0:54:51.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's in my cue. I haven't seen it yet.

0:54:51.560 --> 0:54:53.920
<v Speaker 1>All right, let's go into the promotion of this movie.

0:54:54.400 --> 0:54:57.560
<v Speaker 1>The promotion of this movie ends up being disastrous for

0:54:57.680 --> 0:55:00.959
<v Speaker 1>her because she promotes the movie in a way where

0:55:01.000 --> 0:55:04.080
<v Speaker 1>they don't talk about the domestic violence. They promote it

0:55:04.120 --> 0:55:07.000
<v Speaker 1>in a way where it's a flowery, fun, grab your

0:55:07.040 --> 0:55:10.520
<v Speaker 1>girlfriend's in a cocktail, go see this movie. She also

0:55:10.560 --> 0:55:15.680
<v Speaker 1>promotes her hair care line, and she promotes her booze business,

0:55:15.920 --> 0:55:18.600
<v Speaker 1>so she has an alcohol brand called Betty Booze, and

0:55:18.640 --> 0:55:20.640
<v Speaker 1>she has a hair care line called Blake briens Don.

0:55:20.760 --> 0:55:22.920
<v Speaker 2>Like, if she'd go on a talk show to promote

0:55:22.920 --> 0:55:24.760
<v Speaker 2>the movie, she'd also bring up those things.

0:55:25.120 --> 0:55:29.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I think her promotion just was basically around this flowery,

0:55:29.600 --> 0:55:36.120
<v Speaker 1>floral type of thing, very frothy, superficial. Go with your girlfriends,

0:55:36.120 --> 0:55:38.600
<v Speaker 1>and by the way, try my hair care line, and

0:55:38.800 --> 0:55:42.040
<v Speaker 1>also I have this booze company. And I think with

0:55:42.160 --> 0:55:45.440
<v Speaker 1>the with the premiere, there was alcohol and all these things,

0:55:45.520 --> 0:55:50.280
<v Speaker 1>and I think people did not like it because according

0:55:50.480 --> 0:55:54.920
<v Speaker 1>to the statistics, fifty five percent of domestic violence has

0:55:54.960 --> 0:55:58.880
<v Speaker 1>to do with alcohol. So it wasn't People were not

0:55:59.040 --> 0:56:01.399
<v Speaker 1>making the connection and they were not receiving it. Well,

0:56:01.440 --> 0:56:03.880
<v Speaker 1>they were like, wait, we thought this was about domestic violence,

0:56:03.880 --> 0:56:04.960
<v Speaker 1>it was about survivors.

0:56:05.000 --> 0:56:06.719
<v Speaker 2>It was when you went and saw the movie, was

0:56:06.760 --> 0:56:09.400
<v Speaker 2>it about domestic violence and survivors? Did you get that

0:56:09.440 --> 0:56:10.640
<v Speaker 2>message as you did in the book?

0:56:10.719 --> 0:56:11.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:56:11.040 --> 0:56:12.759
<v Speaker 2>I did you have the same message as you did

0:56:12.800 --> 0:56:14.280
<v Speaker 2>in the book.

0:56:14.440 --> 0:56:14.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:56:14.760 --> 0:56:17.520
<v Speaker 2>Okay, But she's out promoting it like it's just a

0:56:17.640 --> 0:56:20.560
<v Speaker 2>light popcorn movie, right, and she.

0:56:20.719 --> 0:56:24.440
<v Speaker 1>Got massive backlash from social media because of that.

0:56:24.800 --> 0:56:27.239
<v Speaker 2>So you mean that like people saw the movie or

0:56:27.320 --> 0:56:30.640
<v Speaker 2>knew the book, and then see the way she's painting

0:56:30.680 --> 0:56:34.520
<v Speaker 2>the picture of this movie. And they didn't like that

0:56:34.840 --> 0:56:37.440
<v Speaker 2>because right now, no one knows during the promotion of

0:56:37.480 --> 0:56:39.439
<v Speaker 2>this movie, no one really knows all this that we're

0:56:39.440 --> 0:56:41.759
<v Speaker 2>talking about, right, It hasn't really surfaced publicly yet.

0:56:41.800 --> 0:56:43.880
<v Speaker 1>Oh, you mean about the rift between the two. I know.

0:56:44.000 --> 0:56:46.719
<v Speaker 1>This is when people start speculating because people notice that

0:56:46.760 --> 0:56:47.880
<v Speaker 1>he's not on the red pat That's what.

0:56:47.880 --> 0:56:51.319
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying is they're making the independent conclusion that the

0:56:51.360 --> 0:56:53.120
<v Speaker 2>way you're talking about the movie and the way the

0:56:53.160 --> 0:56:57.719
<v Speaker 2>book reads and the movie shows is not how you're portraying. Right.

0:56:57.800 --> 0:57:00.160
<v Speaker 1>Oh, she also removed him from all the marketing material

0:57:00.360 --> 0:57:02.759
<v Speaker 1>for why wouldn't. If you look at the poster, the

0:57:02.800 --> 0:57:06.560
<v Speaker 1>movie poster, it's just her. He's nowhere on it. She

0:57:06.719 --> 0:57:09.640
<v Speaker 1>just writes them out completely. He's in a basement.

0:57:09.800 --> 0:57:13.120
<v Speaker 2>Well, the title now seems very fitting. It ends with us.

0:57:13.160 --> 0:57:15.359
<v Speaker 2>The name the titles us. It's over.

0:57:15.640 --> 0:57:18.920
<v Speaker 1>It is over. Yeah, So she's promoting this movie. She's

0:57:18.960 --> 0:57:22.760
<v Speaker 1>getting major backlash. This is where the pr people come in,

0:57:22.800 --> 0:57:25.560
<v Speaker 1>and this is where she accuses him of a smear campaign.

0:57:25.840 --> 0:57:28.680
<v Speaker 1>And you know, here's my thoughts on all these.

0:57:28.520 --> 0:57:30.400
<v Speaker 2>Wait, was he running around promoting the movie? Was he

0:57:30.440 --> 0:57:31.720
<v Speaker 2>doing talk shows and stuff like that?

0:57:31.760 --> 0:57:34.960
<v Speaker 1>He was promoting the movie, but he was promoting it differently.

0:57:34.960 --> 0:57:37.720
<v Speaker 2>But he was promoting. She allowed him to go promote

0:57:37.760 --> 0:57:38.240
<v Speaker 2>the movie.

0:57:38.360 --> 0:57:39.880
<v Speaker 1>He did his own thing. He was not allowed to

0:57:39.920 --> 0:57:42.480
<v Speaker 1>promote with her. He so he just pivoted and did

0:57:42.480 --> 0:57:43.120
<v Speaker 1>his own thing.

0:57:43.320 --> 0:57:45.640
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So apparently.

0:57:45.400 --> 0:57:48.520
<v Speaker 1>Sony, She and Sony came up with this marketing promotional

0:57:48.560 --> 0:57:51.600
<v Speaker 1>plan which had to do with this whole flowery type

0:57:51.600 --> 0:57:53.440
<v Speaker 1>of you know, grab your way.

0:57:53.440 --> 0:57:54.720
<v Speaker 2>Why would she do that? Why do you think she

0:57:54.720 --> 0:57:58.960
<v Speaker 2>would do it? Want to paint it that way? She

0:57:58.960 --> 0:58:00.000
<v Speaker 2>hadn't read the book and she doesn't.

0:58:00.280 --> 0:58:02.080
<v Speaker 1>I think it was just a big miss step.

0:58:02.240 --> 0:58:04.480
<v Speaker 2>I think she But why do you think was she

0:58:04.520 --> 0:58:07.760
<v Speaker 2>trying to change the image of the movie. Was she

0:58:07.880 --> 0:58:10.440
<v Speaker 2>just playing stupid and she probably just doesn't know the message?

0:58:11.440 --> 0:58:13.480
<v Speaker 1>Well, I think she didn't read the book. I think

0:58:13.520 --> 0:58:16.800
<v Speaker 1>she didn't meet with the No More group that he justin.

0:58:16.840 --> 0:58:20.480
<v Speaker 1>Baldoni offered for her to meet with this domestic violence organization.

0:58:20.520 --> 0:58:22.760
<v Speaker 1>She didn't want to meet with them. I think she

0:58:22.920 --> 0:58:27.040
<v Speaker 1>focused on this flowery image of it because she thought

0:58:27.080 --> 0:58:28.040
<v Speaker 1>that was the right thing to do.

0:58:28.240 --> 0:58:31.200
<v Speaker 2>I mean, okay, okay, but here's she was a little

0:58:31.200 --> 0:58:33.560
<v Speaker 2>far removed from from being a part of this whole

0:58:33.600 --> 0:58:35.720
<v Speaker 2>group and trying to make this movie and promote it,

0:58:35.760 --> 0:58:38.439
<v Speaker 2>and so then she deviated and did her own thing, deviated, did.

0:58:38.360 --> 0:58:41.440
<v Speaker 1>Her own thing, and it didn't go well. And he

0:58:41.680 --> 0:58:42.280
<v Speaker 1>when he did it.

0:58:42.400 --> 0:58:44.040
<v Speaker 2>Do you see any of the promos, because I know

0:58:44.080 --> 0:58:46.400
<v Speaker 2>you read the book on your own long ago, and

0:58:46.400 --> 0:58:48.480
<v Speaker 2>you were excited for the movie to come out, and

0:58:48.520 --> 0:58:50.640
<v Speaker 2>you were very supportive of calling me over having her

0:58:51.080 --> 0:58:54.480
<v Speaker 2>an awesome book turned into a movie, and then you

0:58:54.520 --> 0:58:57.400
<v Speaker 2>saw the movie, And then did you see her promos

0:58:57.480 --> 0:58:57.880
<v Speaker 2>or anything?

0:58:58.480 --> 0:59:01.480
<v Speaker 1>I did. I saw hercles, and I saw I saw

0:59:01.640 --> 0:59:04.640
<v Speaker 1>where people were saying, this is tone death.

0:59:04.520 --> 0:59:05.520
<v Speaker 2>And did you agree with it?

0:59:05.600 --> 0:59:08.760
<v Speaker 1>I did, okay, And I know that his way of

0:59:08.800 --> 0:59:10.600
<v Speaker 1>promoting the movie, because he had to promote on his own.

0:59:10.640 --> 0:59:12.760
<v Speaker 1>He's just off on his own doing interviews. He's not

0:59:12.800 --> 0:59:15.560
<v Speaker 1>with her with the project still, it's Blake and the

0:59:15.640 --> 0:59:17.080
<v Speaker 1>cast and it's him on his own.

0:59:17.800 --> 0:59:22.080
<v Speaker 2>And this guy got I know you can't a hostile

0:59:22.160 --> 0:59:22.640
<v Speaker 2>take away.

0:59:22.680 --> 0:59:24.520
<v Speaker 1>I know you can't help the fool. Sorry for this man,

0:59:25.040 --> 0:59:28.320
<v Speaker 1>but he's when he's talking about the movie. He's talking

0:59:28.320 --> 0:59:30.960
<v Speaker 1>about victims and about bringing it to light and about

0:59:30.960 --> 0:59:33.360
<v Speaker 1>how hopefully it helps people and people can watch the

0:59:33.400 --> 0:59:37.200
<v Speaker 1>movie and maybe feel empowered to leave a situation or

0:59:37.240 --> 0:59:40.440
<v Speaker 1>good man. Yeah, So she does not like that because

0:59:40.480 --> 0:59:44.959
<v Speaker 1>there are two different promotional avenues going on and people

0:59:45.040 --> 0:59:48.360
<v Speaker 1>are she's getting major backlash and people are thinking what

0:59:48.440 --> 0:59:51.000
<v Speaker 1>he's doing and saying the right thing. So I think

0:59:51.000 --> 0:59:52.280
<v Speaker 1>she's living.

0:59:52.400 --> 0:59:58.040
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, lived, You're right. That was the final nail

0:59:58.080 --> 1:00:01.400
<v Speaker 2>on the coffin where she's like, he was not supposed

1:00:01.440 --> 1:00:03.360
<v Speaker 2>to be getting any praise else. Let me tell you,

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<v Speaker 2>he's not even in the promo shots.

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<v Speaker 1>I read this in the complaint and I believe it,

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<v Speaker 1>even though there isn't any correspondence back this up. But

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<v Speaker 1>I do believe it Justin Baldoni in his complaint, and

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't heard anybody else talk about this. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if anybody else picked up on this, But during

1:00:18.000 --> 1:00:22.040
<v Speaker 1>that promotional tour where she was getting major backlash from

1:00:22.040 --> 1:00:26.160
<v Speaker 1>social media, she and Ryan Reynolds, through their agent, reached

1:00:26.200 --> 1:00:30.080
<v Speaker 1>out to Justin Baldoni and Wayfairer and demanded that they

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<v Speaker 1>write a public apology, and they drafted the public apology

1:00:35.880 --> 1:00:39.040
<v Speaker 1>and told them you have to issue this and he.

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<v Speaker 2>Apologized for what for the marketing? Oh, like, I'm sorry

1:00:43.440 --> 1:00:46.680
<v Speaker 2>for talking about domestic abuse and he is a popcorn movie. No.

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<v Speaker 1>She wanted them to take to Fall on the Sword

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<v Speaker 1>and say it was our error in judgment. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we shouldn't have marketed the movie like this. And he refused. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he refused, wayfairer.

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<v Speaker 2>He drew the line. He was like, I'm done. I'm not.

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<v Speaker 1>So he refuses, and apparently their their response was, now

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<v Speaker 1>the gloves are off. Yeah, now the gloves are off.

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<v Speaker 1>And then they sue him in December. So this was August.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the August time frame when this movie premieres.

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<v Speaker 2>And they're doing only a month later they see them, No.

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<v Speaker 1>This is August. They sue him in December.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh decent, I thinky, said Seppewer. So yeah, not long

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<v Speaker 2>four months.

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<v Speaker 1>No, And then this is where all the PR people

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<v Speaker 1>come into play. Blake Lively got a hold of those

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<v Speaker 1>personal text messages between Justin Baldoni and his PR people,

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<v Speaker 1>and give me a break. Subpoena, Shippina, there's no subpoena.

1:01:42.880 --> 1:01:47.360
<v Speaker 1>There's not a subpoena. This is PR people confiscating phones

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<v Speaker 1>and then giving these private text messages between Justin Baldoni

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<v Speaker 1>and his PR people to Blake Lively's team. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>then they sue him saying sexual harassment and a smear campaign.

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<v Speaker 1>And I want to talk about the PR thing. First

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<v Speaker 1>of all, this is this is Hollywood, and these are

1:02:05.320 --> 1:02:08.400
<v Speaker 1>a less actors, and people hire crisis management teams, and

1:02:08.480 --> 1:02:13.000
<v Speaker 1>everybody has a publicist. You're trying to spin your client's story.

1:02:13.080 --> 1:02:15.840
<v Speaker 1>They're trying to spin their client story. They're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>get good, you know, good stories out there about Blake.

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<v Speaker 1>He's trying to get good stories out there about him.

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<v Speaker 1>He doesn't want this sexual harassment stuff to come up

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<v Speaker 1>that she's accusing him of. Of course, he hired a

1:02:28.040 --> 1:02:31.920
<v Speaker 1>crisis management team. He's been accused of things, He's been

1:02:31.960 --> 1:02:33.080
<v Speaker 1>accused of being as.

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<v Speaker 2>Sexual Probas didn't hire a team to bash her. He

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<v Speaker 2>hired a team to try to control the situation.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the way it was to me. There is a

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<v Speaker 1>text that that she uses in her complaint where his

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<v Speaker 1>PR girl Jen Abels, says something to the effect of

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<v Speaker 1>he wants us to be able to bury her something

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<v Speaker 1>like that. And the new and the whole New York

1:02:53.880 --> 1:02:58.200
<v Speaker 1>Times article goes with that text. But if you read

1:02:58.960 --> 1:03:01.880
<v Speaker 1>multitudes of tech that he has with his PR team,

1:03:02.360 --> 1:03:05.880
<v Speaker 1>he says repeatedly, don't do that. Is that a bad

1:03:06.000 --> 1:03:08.240
<v Speaker 1>article that we did. Don't put bad stuff out like

1:03:08.320 --> 1:03:10.760
<v Speaker 1>He makes it clearer that he doesn't want it to

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<v Speaker 1>be a bashing session. He's just trying to protect.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, yeah, that's exactly what I said. He did.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I know he's trying.

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<v Speaker 2>To put that he's a good dude.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the way it looks to me, is he is

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<v Speaker 1>trying to do nothing more than protect his own image,

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<v Speaker 1>his own movie, his reputation, his investment because there was

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<v Speaker 1>a second book, and how is the second book going

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<v Speaker 1>to get made? I heard and I asked people that

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<v Speaker 1>would know if he purchased the rights to the second book,

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<v Speaker 1>and they say, yeah, sure he did.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I think that's given right.

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<v Speaker 1>So now, how does this man make this movie?

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<v Speaker 2>He may not?

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<v Speaker 1>How can he?

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<v Speaker 2>He may not. He's going to focus on his former

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<v Speaker 2>million dollar all the suit.

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<v Speaker 1>He can't make this movie. And I think that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>one of the reasons why you probably ask for four

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<v Speaker 1>hundred million, because that goes to show actual No. Yeah, damages.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it sucks because although the money is good, he

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<v Speaker 2>really wants to make the movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, he wants to make the movie.

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<v Speaker 2>Agree, But we'd have to make ten million dollars with

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<v Speaker 2>the movie than one hundred million dollars in court.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree on.

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<v Speaker 2>But now with Blake Levely, screw her seriously. I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>work with her. Why would you work? Why would anyone

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<v Speaker 2>want to work with her? Now? She's litigious, she's dangerous.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh no, I don't. I don't disagree with that

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<v Speaker 1>at all.

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<v Speaker 2>We need to get Justin on here. You want to

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<v Speaker 2>get Justin ask him what the heck is going on?

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<v Speaker 2>Or we going to get Blake on here? That'd be better.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, I'm sure Blake and Ryan Reynolds are

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<v Speaker 2>a lot listeners right now going We needed to clear

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<v Speaker 2>those up, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure after Blake listens to this episode, she's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>definitely want to come on this podcast. Let's just go

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<v Speaker 1>in a little bit into some things that are in

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<v Speaker 1>the news. First of all, the whole Deadpool thing, where

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<v Speaker 1>people are picking up on the fact that one of

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<v Speaker 1>the characters nice Pool, is making fun of Justin Baldoni.

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan Reynolds plays problem Deadpool, but he also has that

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<v Speaker 1>alter ego character nice Pool, who there's all these you know,

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<v Speaker 1>similarities in his speech that have to do with Justin Baldoni,

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<v Speaker 1>Like he wears the man bun. He talks about how

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<v Speaker 1>he's a feminist, he talks about how yeah, and you

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<v Speaker 1>said he is, I'm sorry he is. He's a good

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<v Speaker 1>looking guy, manun. He pulls it off. You gotta google

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<v Speaker 1>some images. He pulls it off.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, well, it's not like I'm gonna be able to

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<v Speaker 2>figure out if he's good looking.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, all right, so for it. Baldoni's attorney sends a

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a preservation of evidence letter to the movie

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<v Speaker 1>studio to Marvel over the nice Pool character. So Baldoni's

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<v Speaker 1>attorney believes that Lively's husband, Ryan Reynolds was flagrantly mocking

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<v Speaker 1>Baldoni in a sequence in Marvel's Deadpool and Wolverine. The

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<v Speaker 1>sequence features Reynold's playing nice Pool, an oafish alternate version

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<v Speaker 1>of the hero Deadpool, saying such lines as where in

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<v Speaker 1>God's name is the intimacy Coordinator and complimenting Ladypool for

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<v Speaker 1>snapping back into shape after giving birth. When Deadpool points

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<v Speaker 1>sell Nice Pool's misogyny in the scene, the latter replies,

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<v Speaker 1>it's okay, I identify as a feminist. During the development, production,

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<v Speaker 1>and marketing of It Ends with Us, Baldoni often touted

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<v Speaker 1>his credentials as a feminist and an ally to women.

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<v Speaker 1>He also does a podcast that had to do with

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<v Speaker 1>like toxic masculinity and you know, things like that. So

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<v Speaker 1>the attorney sending the preservation of evidence letter, what does

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<v Speaker 1>that suggest to you? What is what is that for?

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<v Speaker 1>What is the intent?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, because the're afraid they're going to destroy it and

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<v Speaker 2>then they want to use it against him.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, So I think at some point there might be

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<v Speaker 1>some lawsuit against Marble as well. I don't know. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm sure Marvel Studios is like, are you kidding me? Like,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't want to be involved in this, but anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>So there's a preservation of evidence letter which basically says

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<v Speaker 1>anything has to do with the character of Nice School.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I don't know how involved they would be

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<v Speaker 2>other than just being a participant of providing evidence. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, were they going to assume Marble saying you

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<v Speaker 2>made fun of just involving a man? That seems like

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<v Speaker 2>a stretch. Right, But yeah, you're right, it doesn't look

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<v Speaker 2>good for well, it doesn't if I'm involved in some

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<v Speaker 2>personal issue with someone and then they send a letter

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<v Speaker 2>to my boss saying preserving evidence. Yeah, that's not a

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<v Speaker 2>good look for me. So that's essentially what they did.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, I think it's important to get into this rooftop

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<v Speaker 1>scene so that we can then go into this six

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<v Speaker 1>and a half minute voice memo from Justin Baldoni to

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<v Speaker 1>Blake Lively that was just released today, so we get

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<v Speaker 1>to discuss that.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, what is the rooftop scene and.

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<v Speaker 1>The rooftop scene in the book, this is a pivotal

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<v Speaker 1>scene because this is where the main character, Lily meets

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<v Speaker 1>Ryle for the first time. Now, I think this is

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<v Speaker 1>a very important scene because we're talking about domestic violence,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think Colleen Hoover does an amazing job of

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<v Speaker 1>introducing Ryle to us as a doctor and as someone

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<v Speaker 1>that's very passionate. When she first meets him on this rooftop,

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<v Speaker 1>he had just been in a surgery and he had

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<v Speaker 1>lost I think a child had died, and he was

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<v Speaker 1>reeling and he was emotional and he was upset, and

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<v Speaker 1>you immediately are attracted to him as a good guy.

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<v Speaker 1>He also shows a little bit of a violent side

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<v Speaker 1>where he kicks a chair, and I think this is

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<v Speaker 1>all foreshadowing as to who he is as a complex

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<v Speaker 1>character later in the book, when we learn more about

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<v Speaker 1>him and his background. Anyway, I would say a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people have said this is an iconic scene, a

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<v Speaker 1>pivotal scene.

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<v Speaker 2>I would agree with that as far as the storyline

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<v Speaker 2>exactly so.

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<v Speaker 1>In Baldoni's complaint, he says that Blake Lively reaches out

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<v Speaker 1>to him and says, hey, can I take a pass

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<v Speaker 1>at writing this scene? Obviously there's a script and the

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<v Speaker 1>scene's already been written. She wants to write the scene. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go back to the fact that as far as

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<v Speaker 1>an actress, she's her scope of her employment is actress.

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<v Speaker 1>And again, as far as he alleges, she hasn't read

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<v Speaker 1>the book. According to his complaint, there's some time type

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<v Speaker 1>of meeting at her New York penthouse and Taylor and

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan are both there, and Blake has rewritten this scene,

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<v Speaker 1>and according to Justin Baldoni, they're both raving. And when

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<v Speaker 1>I say both, I mean Ryan and Taylor are raving

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<v Speaker 1>about how amazing the scene is. That she has written,

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<v Speaker 1>so Justin Baldoni leaves, and apparently he says to her

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<v Speaker 1>at some point in a text or I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 1>what he thanks her for her passion, meaning great job

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<v Speaker 1>putting a lot of work into it, but I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll probably I think he says, I was.

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<v Speaker 2>Trying to recognize her going out above and beyond, so

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<v Speaker 2>to speak, in writing and contributing, when really he didn't

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<v Speaker 2>want to hear it, right.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, I think he also knows he's walking

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<v Speaker 1>on eggshells with her, right, So he's trying to say

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<v Speaker 1>he's trying to give her compliments without letting her completely

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<v Speaker 1>take over. So I think he probably thought that was

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<v Speaker 1>a great way to be like, you know what, I

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate the passion that you put into that. And then

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<v Speaker 1>I think.

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<v Speaker 2>Choice of words, well, passion, Yeah, I mean that's neither

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<v Speaker 2>here nor there, right, And.

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<v Speaker 1>Then he says something to the effect of, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>most likely the scene will be what was already written,

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<v Speaker 1>and then some of the things, and like, I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>he's trying to include some of the things.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, apparently, according to him, she goes silent for days.

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<v Speaker 1>He doesn't hear from her, then I guess he gets

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<v Speaker 1>a text. This is the Khalisi text, right, and I'll

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<v Speaker 1>read a little bit more of the text. So she says,

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<v Speaker 1>they asked what you thought specifically after and they means

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan Reynolds and Taylor Swift, who she's referring to. They

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<v Speaker 1>checked in so many times. I told them that you

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<v Speaker 1>laughed a bunch and said it's probably a blend, but

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<v Speaker 1>you appreciate my passion so much, which of course did

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<v Speaker 1>not feel great for me or them to have my

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<v Speaker 1>passion be praised instead of any specific contribution, or even

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<v Speaker 1>just that you don't like the pages, which was fine also,

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<v Speaker 1>So she's basically saying, hey, they keep checking in. They

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<v Speaker 1>want to know your thoughts. They thought it was amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Why are you not thinking it's amazing too? Then there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot more that has to do with how amazing

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<v Speaker 1>and how great her two dragons are. Then the very

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<v Speaker 1>end of this text is the Kalisi text, where she

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<v Speaker 1>basically makes reference to Game of Thrones where she's Kalisi

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<v Speaker 1>and they're her two dragons. And to me, I take

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<v Speaker 1>that as kind of a veiled threat, like, not only

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<v Speaker 1>am I blake Lively, but I just want to warn

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<v Speaker 1>you that I have two of the most powerful people

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<v Speaker 1>in the world as my friends, and you should probably

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<v Speaker 1>go along that. We all think this rooftop scene is

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<v Speaker 1>amazing anyway, So this voice memo comes into play because

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<v Speaker 1>this is what I think happened. I think he starts

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about how he praised her passion. But now she's

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<v Speaker 1>ticked off and she's sent him this time, and she

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't like what he said, and she doesn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>be praised for her passion. She wants to be praised.

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<v Speaker 2>For her Shane Reynolds, And it's like, what do you

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<v Speaker 2>think about this?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I'm sure, And so everybody's probably.

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<v Speaker 2>He wrote it.

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<v Speaker 1>He was insulted, right, So I'm sure everyone around her

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<v Speaker 1>is like, don't you know he doesn't know what he's

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<v Speaker 1>talking about and you know, praising her. So I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>Justin Baldoni is laying in bed with his mind reeling,

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about how he messed up because he praised her

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<v Speaker 1>for this passion she put into rewriting and guess second

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<v Speaker 1>guessing everything. He's thinking, Great, now she's mad. Ryan Reynolds

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<v Speaker 1>is mad, Taylor Swift is mad. I'm screwed, right, So

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<v Speaker 1>he sends her this sixth minute, thirty second two in

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<v Speaker 1>the morning voice memo at two o'clock in the morning,

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<v Speaker 1>which Shane and I both listen to. My takeaway from

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<v Speaker 1>this voice memo and you can tell me yours was

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<v Speaker 1>this man was reeling, his mind was going crazy, and

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<v Speaker 1>he was trying to do everything possible to get her

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<v Speaker 1>back into his good graces.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, how many times do you he he? I

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<v Speaker 2>agreed that he was, and I think his voicemail was stupid.

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<v Speaker 2>I know it looked he sounded weak. He sounded like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, I love you, You're so great, and like

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<v Speaker 2>that was kind of the tone. I felt bad for him,

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<v Speaker 2>but I was like, dude, you're not going to win

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<v Speaker 2>anyone over.

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<v Speaker 1>Like that, so in your mind, well to me, he apologized,

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<v Speaker 1>I be and sweet. It should have been. First of all,

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<v Speaker 1>as a as a woman with three children, and Blake

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<v Speaker 1>Lively has four kids, I don't want a seven minute

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<v Speaker 1>voice memo. I'm not going to listen to it.

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<v Speaker 2>That was a high person. I wouldn't want a seven

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<v Speaker 2>minute voice memo that is entirely too long.

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<v Speaker 1>If you want to apologize.

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<v Speaker 2>It was harsh for me to finish that.

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<v Speaker 1>I know it was a lot. It was a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of repetition. It was a lot of stammering, stammering. It

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<v Speaker 1>was a lot of I'm sorry, I shouldn't it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>he saying things like basically like you're so awesome him. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm working with Blake Lively to Ryan Ryan, say

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<v Speaker 1>hi to Ryan.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't believe I because he wasn't playing like Taylor

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<v Speaker 2>Swift in the background, or.

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<v Speaker 1>I get to I get to I get to be

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<v Speaker 1>with Blake Lively every day.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it was a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>It was too much.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he was saying that. That was pathetic, that was serious. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>But the question is, because clearly it was his side

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<v Speaker 1>that released his voice. It wasn't her.

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<v Speaker 2>He's releasing it, So.

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<v Speaker 1>What is his intent?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I don't know if that did him

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<v Speaker 2>any favorites. I don't think it did anything bad for him.

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<v Speaker 2>It is to me it made him look weak. And

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<v Speaker 2>it may be and it's not like, oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 2>he apologized, therefore she should he's a great guy. No,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. You could have been apologizing because because

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think it's I think his voicemail had

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<v Speaker 2>good intentions. He was trying to reel her in. He

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<v Speaker 2>was trying to, you know, appease her. He was trying

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<v Speaker 2>to make her feel better so they could get back

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<v Speaker 2>to filming or whatever it was. But I think it

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<v Speaker 2>was not It was disingenuous because he was just saying

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<v Speaker 2>what he thinks he needed to say.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean, Yeah, but what he needed

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<v Speaker 1>to say.

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<v Speaker 2>It was actually his reasoning was not wrong. His reasoning

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<v Speaker 2>was valid, legitimate and real, right, and it had good intentions. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>but it just sound as stupid.

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<v Speaker 1>There's also a section in this long voice memo where

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<v Speaker 1>he makes reference to I'm so sorry that you've gone

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<v Speaker 1>through this with other directors or whatever, and a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people I've seen people talking about this online and

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't know what he was referring to, and they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't understand the context at this point.

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<v Speaker 2>I might know, but I interpreted that as he was

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<v Speaker 2>just like he heard stories directly from Blake. So he's like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's terrible. I'm not like that, right. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if there was any history.

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<v Speaker 1>Well there is, because I look back at the complaint

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<v Speaker 1>because I remember reading something like that, and I did.

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<v Speaker 1>I did find it in the complaint and the context is,

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<v Speaker 1>he states, early in the pre production stage, Lively sent

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<v Speaker 1>Baldoni a long text describing how directors never permitted her

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<v Speaker 1>to write scenes for the movies that she acted in,

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<v Speaker 1>nor gave her writing credits, even making her hand scribble

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<v Speaker 1>her suggestions for lines so that they could not be

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<v Speaker 1>traced back to her. Lively boasted that she had even

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<v Speaker 1>written for her husband's movies. So I think she sent

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<v Speaker 1>these long texts as a manipulation tactic of like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I know what I'm doing. I've written scenes, I've rewritten things.

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<v Speaker 1>I've just never been given credit before, kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>woe is me type of feel badly for me. And

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<v Speaker 1>then that's what he does in that voice memo. He's like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I am so sorry that you were treated like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Ask them I'm not like that. And if you remember,

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<v Speaker 2>he's he's not like that. Now, let's go finish the

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<v Speaker 2>movie right now, get out of the editing.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. Anyways, So that is our take on the on

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<v Speaker 1>the six and a half minute.

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<v Speaker 2>I always I recommend that anyone listening to this podcast

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<v Speaker 2>do not listen to the seven minutes or you will

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<v Speaker 2>want it back.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a lot, it's a lot of ramd you feel

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<v Speaker 1>for him too. I think the intent of them releasing

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<v Speaker 1>it was so that you could hear in his voice

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<v Speaker 1>that he is literally trying to just get along with it.

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<v Speaker 2>He was saying what she wanted to hear because he

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<v Speaker 2>just wanted to move on, and that.

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<v Speaker 1>He's the nice guy in this. He's telling her she's amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>He's saying he loves Ryan. He's bowing down.

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<v Speaker 2>I know that, I'm sorry. You know you want to

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<v Speaker 2>crap out O Ryan. And he's never going to listen

1:17:44.640 --> 1:17:49.479
<v Speaker 2>to Taylor Swifts song again. You know that, right either.

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<v Speaker 1>So Anyway, originally the first pre trial conference was scheduled

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<v Speaker 1>for February twelve. We do know now that it's been

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<v Speaker 1>moved up. It is actually next week, and the judge

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<v Speaker 1>told both lawyers on each side to be prepared to

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<v Speaker 1>address the complaints about all the pre trial publicity. And

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<v Speaker 1>we touched on this a little bit before that was

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<v Speaker 1>the letter that Blake Lively's team sent to the judge

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<v Speaker 1>directly saying, Hey, you know, Brian Friedman's playing out this

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<v Speaker 1>lawsuit in the public by releasing.

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<v Speaker 2>All this footage. Please disregard the fact that I went

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<v Speaker 2>to the New York Times, right, and look at this

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<v Speaker 2>attorney was responding to all these outlandish allegations I write against.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm sure it also has to do with the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that he also did say, Hey, we're just gonna

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<v Speaker 1>We're just going to make a website and we're just

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<v Speaker 1>going to put everything on this website. We're going to

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<v Speaker 1>put the raw footage on there, all the text, messages, everything.

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<v Speaker 2>You should probably put it on Patreon. You can probably

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<v Speaker 2>make a few bucks, or put it on YouTube. It'll

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<v Speaker 2>be millions of viewers and then a bunch of comments.

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<v Speaker 1>And then so the pre trial conferences next week where

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<v Speaker 1>we will figure out or at least the judge will

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<v Speaker 1>make some type of decision on how this is going

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<v Speaker 1>to play out in the MEETA because both sides have

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<v Speaker 1>been using publicity.

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<v Speaker 2>Get their in California is in New York.

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<v Speaker 1>So the trial date is scheduled for March ninth of

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty six, which is basically.

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<v Speaker 2>Two seconds that is googled it. I put Ryan Reynolds's

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<v Speaker 2>Lively trial date March nine came up March ninth.

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<v Speaker 1>Six, Okay, So anyway, that's when the trial date is.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see what happens until then clearly there will be

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<v Speaker 1>a lot more things that come out. We'll see how

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<v Speaker 1>this plays out in the media. We'll see what the

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<v Speaker 1>judge says regarding whether they're allowed to continue to release

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<v Speaker 1>raw footage and release all these text messages and voice

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<v Speaker 1>memos and all these things, and.

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<v Speaker 2>We will keep you informed on that, hopefully, hopefully get

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<v Speaker 2>settled before the next Taylor Swift tour date. So very important, yes,