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Speaker 1: Hi guys, Welcome to Legally Brunettes. I'm your host, Emily

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Speaker 1: Simpson with my co host, the most Interesting man in the.

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Speaker 2: World, Shane Simpson.

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Speaker 1: Okay, first of all, I think we just need to

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Speaker 1: do a little I think it's always important to go

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Speaker 1: back and do just a little summary of things that

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Speaker 1: we've already talked about. So let's just do a little update.

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Speaker 1: In the Menindez case, they were scheduled to have hearings,

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Speaker 1: but because of the fires, their resentencing hearing has been

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Speaker 1: rescheduled to March twentieth and the twenty first. I do

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Speaker 1: know that the DA, Nathan Hockman, has now met with

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Speaker 1: not only the side of the family. There's the one

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Speaker 1: member of the family who did not want them to

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Speaker 1: be resentence that's Milton, who is Kitty's brother, But he

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Speaker 1: has also met with the pro resentencing family, which is

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Speaker 1: like twenty four members of the family. So he has

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Speaker 1: now met with all the family and they'll be a

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Speaker 1: hearing March twentieth and the twenty first, which obviously we

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Speaker 1: will update at that time period. But also I just

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Speaker 1: want to say, because a lot of you as me,

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Speaker 1: what do I think the DA will do?

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Speaker 2: Wait? Can I ask questions before you say what you

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Speaker 2: think the DA will do? Yeah, do you think the

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Speaker 2: I'm sure the fires are a valid reason and are

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Speaker 2: causing the courts to have to delay lots of things.

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Speaker 2: But do you think they jumped on that to delay

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Speaker 2: it like they had they had good read, like they

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Speaker 2: wanted to personally delay it and this gave him the excuse,

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Speaker 2: or you think it would have gone through had there

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Speaker 2: not been the fires.

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Speaker 1: No, I think it was legitimately the fires. I heard

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Speaker 1: from that A lot of the das in that office

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Speaker 1: lost their homes, and I think it's chaotic, So you

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Speaker 1: think it's I think it was a legitimate.

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Speaker 2: Okay, there was an ulterior type motive in doing so, No, okay,

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Speaker 2: But just.

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Speaker 1: A reminder, it is not Pakman that makes the resentencing decision.

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Speaker 1: It is the judge. All the all Nathan Hoffman will

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Speaker 1: do is person through the case, present it. He'll have

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Speaker 1: a recommendation, but then ultimately the judge makes the decision.

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Speaker 1: So let's move on. This is our second podcast on

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Speaker 1: Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni, which is it is just

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Speaker 1: it is it is brewing. We did part one, so

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Speaker 1: if you haven't listened to that, yet I would suggest

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Speaker 1: you go back and listen to that and then come back.

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Speaker 1: We are now talking about Justin Baldoni filed a lawsuit

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Speaker 1: against Blake Lively, Ryan Reynolds and their publicist.

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Speaker 2: Wait before you get into that, so where did it

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Speaker 2: leave off? It left off with what filing or where

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Speaker 2: was the status of the parties? Okay, now going into detail.

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Speaker 1: Just so lit'sten. Just do a little background. First, Blake

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Speaker 1: Lively in December files the CRD complaint, which is with

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Speaker 1: the California Civil Rights Department. That was the administrative complaint,

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Speaker 1: which by the way, is not a public complaint. But

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Speaker 1: then but she filed that along with New York Times

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Speaker 1: writing the story. That was basically taking her complaints and

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Speaker 1: making that the story. And then there was also the

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Speaker 1: whole allegation of they altered some of the text messages,

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Speaker 1: they left context out, et cetera. So Justin Baldoni, in

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Speaker 1: response to that, files his libel suit again the New

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Speaker 2: Right, because they didn't He's claiming they didn't paint the

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Speaker 2: whole they didn't provide the whole story. Right, They picked

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Speaker 2: probably what what is the mediast and probably what sided

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Speaker 2: with Blake Lively because she was their source, right, or

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Speaker 2: maybe they were negligent in looking into it any further

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Speaker 2: And now he's saying, that's not me, that's painting me

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Speaker 2: in a bad light, exactly.

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Speaker 1: So again, let me I'll just give you just a

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Speaker 1: little legal background on libel. When you're talking about a

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Speaker 1: standard to prove defamation, which is libel, is actual malice.

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Speaker 1: And that's a very very very high standard.

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Speaker 2: Very different means intentional. It means that bad.

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Speaker 1: Practice that they knowingly published something that they knew to

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Speaker 2: And just to be clear, the Civil Rights Spartman is

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Speaker 1: And I think she filed with that because I don't

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Speaker 2: Okay, that was her intent to collude.

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Speaker 1: With the New York Times and to get this story

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Speaker 1: planned this smear campaign against her to ruin his reputation.

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Speaker 2: So do you think her intent was to ruin his reputation? Yes?

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Speaker 2: And why?

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Speaker 2: And why?

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Speaker 1: Because I think when she was promoting the movie it

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Speaker 1: If you are a woman that has been sexually harassed.

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Speaker 1: So she files it in federal court. He files. Now,

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Speaker 1: this session. He files a lawsuit against her, Ryan Reynolds

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Speaker 1: and their publicist, and it's on behalf of himself, Wayfairer,

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Speaker 1: of wayfair his name Sarrowitz.

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Speaker 2: He's suing just the New York Times.

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Speaker 1: No, we're talking to past the New York Times.

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Speaker 1: The newest lawsuit that we're going to focus on today

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Speaker 1: right now is justin Baldoni versus versus Blake Lively, Ryan

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Speaker 1: Reynolds and their publicist. Let's just keep it like that.

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Speaker 2: So that's some deep pockets New York Times in one suit,

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Speaker 2: and then Ryan Reynolds and another because we all know

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Speaker 2: It did well and was acquired and he cashed a

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Speaker 2: But I will.

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Speaker 1: Tell you Justin Baldoni. One of his partners in Wayfairer

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Speaker 2: How do he get dragged in?

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Speaker 1: Because he's part of the founding fathers of Wayfairer studios,

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Speaker 1: he's like a silent finance guy behind the studio.

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Speaker 2: Well not so silent anymore. Isn't have to speak up?

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Speaker 1: Well, I think he's writing checks. Like I think he

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Speaker 2: People cleaners, take them out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And so that's where we're at.

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Speaker 1: So the complaint that Justin Baldoni filed is one hundred

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Speaker 1: and seventy nine pages. I read it twice. I think

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Speaker 1: Let's just do a little summary of basically what he's alleging.

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Speaker 2: In his I can't go over one hundred and eighty pages.

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Speaker 2: That'd be dull. We can't.

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Speaker 1: Let's do Let's just do a little summary of it.

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Speaker 1: And then I have some things that I pulled out

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Speaker 1: that I think are important. So Baldoni, Wayfair Studios, his

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Speaker 1: other plaintiffs filed a lawsuit on Thursday, I don't remember

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Speaker 1: York federal court against Lively, her husband, her publicist, and

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Speaker 1: the firm Vision pr. The suit basically claims that Lively,

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Speaker 1: who was publicly blasted for her tone deaf motion of

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Speaker 1: by accusing him of harassment and creating a hostile work environment.

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Speaker 1: His latest lawsuit repeats many of the claims that he

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Speaker 1: made in his December thirty first libel action against The

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Speaker 1: New York Times. Baldoni cited Lively's constant attempts to change

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Speaker 1: I like to have a timeline of things, so let's

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Speaker 1: just start with twenty nineteen. This is when Justin Baldoni

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Speaker 1: reads the book.

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Speaker 2: It ends with us, okay, on his own head, that

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Speaker 1: He reads the book. I've read the book. He reads

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Speaker 2: Okay. So he likes movies with substance.

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Speaker 1: Movies with substance, movies with a purpose. He made a

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Speaker 1: he reaches out to Colleen Hoover.

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Speaker 2: So far, so good.

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Speaker 1: Yes, he reaches out to Colleen Hoover, who wrote the book,

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Speaker 1: and he includes all these emails between the two of them,

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Speaker 2: This is her first movie, her first novel that turned

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Speaker 1: She says in her emails that someone else bought a

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Speaker 1: And he includes all these emails between him and Colleen

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Speaker 2: She says that in the email.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and it's very important to her that this movie

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Speaker 1: of domestic violence, because that is what the movie is about.

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Speaker 2: I would believe that it's kind.

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Speaker 1: Of a generational because if you read the book or

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Speaker 1: has to deal with some domestic violence when she marries Ryle,

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Speaker 2: And the author didn't want that to be taken away, right,

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Speaker 2: It was what's like the dressed like in real life.

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Speaker 1: basically like, look, buddy, I had Taylor Swift and Ryan

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Speaker 1: I think she's just using I know everybody.

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Speaker 2: Now. It demonstrates that she thinks someone as successful as

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Speaker 2: So, then not like they're in the industry and they

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Speaker 1: So then then the complaint, justin Baldoni, includes letters going

440
00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:49,440
Speaker 1: back and forth between Sony and Wayfair and people are like, hey,

441
00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,440
Speaker 1: did he write the scene? Because do we need to

442
00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:57,520
Speaker 1: give him writing credit? And everyone's confused, right, and they

443
00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:01,680
Speaker 1: don't know what's going on. So I to me, I

444
00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:03,920
Speaker 1: feel nothing but sorry for this guy.

445
00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:07,920
Speaker 2: After that shows when Blake Lely doesn't know her scope

446
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:11,479
Speaker 2: of work what she was hired for and to respect

447
00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:14,920
Speaker 2: other people's positions, and she just takes over. And then

448
00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:16,440
Speaker 2: what you said where she says, Oh, I'm going to

449
00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:18,679
Speaker 2: let you know a little secret run on Reynolds wrote it.

450
00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:22,280
Speaker 2: Then she's stupid for not knowing how the industry works,

451
00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:25,080
Speaker 2: where you can't. I mean, there's credits on those movies

452
00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,879
Speaker 2: for a reason, and they follow whatever the guidelines are

453
00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,680
Speaker 2: with the unions and whatever it is to make sure

454
00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,600
Speaker 2: people get the credit they deserve. And here she has

455
00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:37,159
Speaker 2: this thrown out credit Willie Nilly in a big pr

456
00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:39,920
Speaker 2: you know interview, right.

457
00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,879
Speaker 1: So then behind the scenes there's all these you know,

458
00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:44,800
Speaker 1: communications going back and forth of like do we have

459
00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:46,560
Speaker 1: to give him a writing credit? Did he really write it?

460
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:48,120
Speaker 1: What's going on? We don't understand.

461
00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:54,720
Speaker 2: So I don't know why you like her. I always

462
00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:56,320
Speaker 2: did up until recently.

463
00:22:56,359 --> 00:23:01,000
Speaker 1: I actually went into studying this case very impartially.

464
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:05,840
Speaker 2: I used to like Ryan Reynolds only from two Me

465
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,760
Speaker 2: and a Girl in a Pizza Place that was his

466
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,440
Speaker 2: TV show he had a long time ago, and then

467
00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:13,400
Speaker 2: he never did a good movie since No, you don't

468
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,600
Speaker 2: think no, but he has a great agent because he

469
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 2: did a lot of flops. So that's that agent is

470
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,880
Speaker 2: earning his money. And no, I definitely don't like Ryan

471
00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 2: and I fell asleep during the first Deadpool, yeah, and

472
00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:27,199
Speaker 2: I never saw the others.

473
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:29,320
Speaker 1: Right, well, we have to get to dead Sell because

474
00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:30,840
Speaker 1: you ought that has to do with that. All right,

475
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:34,080
Speaker 1: let's move on to the scene that is. It's the

476
00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 1: ten minute scene that's all over Brian Friedman.

477
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:38,359
Speaker 2: This is that dancing scene.

478
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Speaker 1: That's the dancing I didn't watch it yet, Well you

479
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:41,679
Speaker 1: were supposed to, but.

480
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:43,000
Speaker 2: Well I read about it.

481
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:48,920
Speaker 1: So Brian Friedman releases it and it's ten minutes long.

482
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:50,680
Speaker 1: I watched some of it, not the whole thing.

483
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 2: Okay, hold on. What I do know is from what

484
00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:58,159
Speaker 2: I read, she didn't think there was audio. Yeah, and

485
00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 2: so if if from her point of view she did

486
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 2: not believe there was audio, it was only video because

487
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 2: it's just used as them, whether it's like background music

488
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,680
Speaker 2: or whatever. Right, it's just like silent scenes of them

489
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:10,960
Speaker 2: being intimate or whatever. Right, So she didn't think there

490
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:16,119
Speaker 2: was audio, and so she used that scene to be

491
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Speaker 2: able to create her own narrative. Yeah, I agree, And

492
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,440
Speaker 2: we learned from earlier in the succession of Baldini, smart

493
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 2: enough to protect himself from being you know that he

494
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 2: probably had a mic on him for a reason.

495
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Speaker 1: Probably so. The video of the end it ends with

496
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 1: a set footage. It was provided by Baldoni's team, and

497
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,280
Speaker 1: it shows footage of Lively filming a scene with Baldoni

498
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:41,600
Speaker 1: in which their character slow dance for a slow motion

499
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 1: montage intended to have no dialogue. The co stars speak

500
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:47,879
Speaker 1: to each other out of character while filming. You know.

501
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,359
Speaker 1: She jokes about his nose. She says he should take

502
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,200
Speaker 1: I don't know what, an insurance month. But she tells

503
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 1: him he should get a nose job and take an

504
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:59,119
Speaker 1: insurance month. I'm sure that's movie lingo. She talks about,

505
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,920
Speaker 1: don't knows with She talks about Ryan and how they

506
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,960
Speaker 1: look into each other's eyes or something, and he says.

507
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:07,480
Speaker 2: Oh, she's comfortable talking.

508
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 1: And talking out of character. She accuses him of not

509
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 1: being in character during this scene, and that's supposedly what

510
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 1: makes her uncomfortable is he's not Rile, He's being himself.

511
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:19,199
Speaker 1: So that's why you.

512
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 2: Say character is to make fun of his nose.

513
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 1: Right, So she's uncomfortable, but she's also out of character too.

514
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 1: She's talking about you know.

515
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 2: Now I'm going to compare Baldini's nose to Ryan's nose.

516
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:34,440
Speaker 2: It's what's his name? I want to compare their noses.

517
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:36,960
Speaker 2: See what's her deal?

518
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 1: Anyway, they released the footage as far as I'm concerned, Look,

519
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:48,400
Speaker 1: let's be honest. Here an intimate romantic scene between two

520
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,919
Speaker 1: actors that are married to other people and have children

521
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 1: with other people. I'm sorry that professional for decades, right,

522
00:25:55,119 --> 00:26:00,520
Speaker 1: but I don't care. It's inherently uncomfortable. Regardless you have

523
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,120
Speaker 1: to make out with someone. These two people are in love.

524
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,879
Speaker 2: Well, a professional, it would not be inherently awkward because

525
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 2: they would get into character and they would do it.

526
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:13,640
Speaker 2: And maybe everyone has different levels of awkwardness or uncomfortableness

527
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 2: or whatever, but you're a professional, and that's what the

528
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 2: job calls for.

529
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 1: Right. Well, she is claiming that she was uncomfortable, that

530
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:26,879
Speaker 1: there's no intimacy coordinator on SEIDS, and you know, his

531
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 1: complaint alleges that she never signed her nudity writer and

532
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 1: that she never met with them.

533
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 2: Tell me what a nudy writer is, because you've been

534
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:36,359
Speaker 2: talking about that all week and I have no idea

535
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 2: what a nudy.

536
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 1: Because I need my own nudity writer is tell me

537
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 1: what it is and I'll let you know. So, when

538
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 1: there is an actress or an actor in a movie

539
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 1: and they have to do simulated sex scenes, they have

540
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 1: a separate contract that's called a nudity writer.

541
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Speaker 2: Is that like their boundaries or something?

542
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 1: I believe. So, I've never read one, but I looked

543
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 1: it up and basically, an intimacy coordinator looks at the

544
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,919
Speaker 1: nudity writer. It's a contract and they say, Okay, it

545
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:03,879
Speaker 1: looks good. This is what you're comfortable with with you

546
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 1: or not. Maybe this is when you use a stunt double.

547
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 2: This is oh, but then what was the intimacy coordinator?

548
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:13,120
Speaker 1: The intimacy coordinator is a person that's supposedly on set

549
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 1: that actually works out the sex scenes and the romantic scenes. Okay,

550
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,639
Speaker 1: there is an intimacy coordinator that they hired for this movie,

551
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 1: and she she claims that she's uncomfortable, but she could

552
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 1: have met with an intimacy.

553
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 2: But I'm surprised they were able to move forward without

554
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 2: her agreeing or meeting with this intimacy coordinator.

555
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 1: Well, there's a text message where he says, do you

556
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,120
Speaker 1: want to meet with her? And she's no, it's like, no,

557
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:37,680
Speaker 1: I'm good.

558
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 2: I remember you tell me that, But I can't imagine

559
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 2: why they move forward. They should have been like, well, no,

560
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 2: then you sign here to wave it. Like when someone

561
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,400
Speaker 2: gets injured at work and they fall and they get

562
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 2: hurt and they're like, no, I don't want medical attention.

563
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 2: It's like, okay, then sign here saying you wave medical

564
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,879
Speaker 2: attention so you can't later say you didn't get it.

565
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 2: So that's where he messed up. No I don't and

566
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 2: I'm not saying he did anything bad or wrong, but

567
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 2: he messed up by saying, okay, then you sign here

568
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 2: saying that you wave an intimacy coordinator.

569
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 1: Well, I don't think she's necessarily waving it. She's just

570
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 1: saying waving the meeting waving it. Yeah, so I so okay. Well,

571
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 1: he goes to these meetings with the intimacy coordinator, he

572
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 1: takes handwritten notes, and then he has to go back

573
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 1: and share these handwritten notes with her. Apparently this scene,

574
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 1: the scene, this montage, this romantic scene where they're kissing.

575
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,919
Speaker 1: Apparently she knew about the scene and she rewrote the scene.

576
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,479
Speaker 1: That's what he alleges. So the fact that she feels

577
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 1: uncomfortable To me, looks like a retroactive way to go

578
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 1: back and look for something that at the time was

579
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 1: probably innocuous or benign or not really that big of

580
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 1: a deal. But it's a way for her to latch

581
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:51,479
Speaker 1: onto something and say, hey, I felt uncomfortable there. M hm.

582
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 2: So didn't they have Did they have any intimate scenes

583
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 2: in the movie?

584
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot.

585
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 2: So why didn't she use those scenes because those scenes

586
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 2: character I felt something down there.

587
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 1: No, I'll tell you why. Because those scenes were filmed

588
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 1: after the break, after they went on strike, production shut down.

589
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 2: Okay, but how does that break change things? So is

590
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 2: that she can't bring up those scenes.

591
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 1: Because those weren't filmed. This movie is divided into two parts.

592
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 1: They filmed half of the movie, then there were the strikes.

593
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 1: The strikes they did not film between June twenty seventh

594
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 1: and November ninth. During that time period, she was asking

595
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 1: for the raw footage, which is called dailies. I had

596
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 1: to look this up. Dailies is just the raw footage

597
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 1: from the day. It's not edited.

598
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 2: It's just the raw foot which is timestamp for that day. R.

599
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, something happened between June twenty seventh and November ninth,

600
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 1: when she when they go the strike ends, they can

601
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 1: go back to work, and she sends a letter via

602
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 1: her attorneys saying she refuses a film unless they sign

603
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 1: this seventeen conditions that they all have to agree to

604
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 1: for her to return to work. It's these protections that

605
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 1: she needs in place. This is what I think happened.

606
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 1: I think she was asking for the raw footage because

607
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 1: she wants to take over. She wants to edit it.

608
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 1: He's giving her a little because he's walking on eggshells

609
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 1: all the time around her. He has to keep her happy.

610
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 1: He has to give her what she wants because in

611
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 1: this she gets the raw footage. I think Ryan Reynolds

612
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 1: sees the raw footage. I think Justin Baldoni is a

613
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 1: very handsome man, is he? I think I think he's

614
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 1: very good looking. And they have these intimate scenes together.

615
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 1: They have to kiss, they have to be close. I

616
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 1: think Ryan Reynolds got jealous and I think something happened

617
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 1: during that time period where he was not happy about

618
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 1: this close working relationship between the two of them, and

619
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:48,479
Speaker 1: he wanted to exert his power in his ego. He

620
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 1: wanted to put this guy in his place, like, this

621
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 1: is my wife. And she has a history of having

622
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 1: relationships with her co stars. When she was on Gossip Girl,

623
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 1: she had a relationship with one of the other actors.

624
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 1: Wasn't he was married to Scarlet Johansson on Green Lantern?

625
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,239
Speaker 1: And then Wasn't She on Was she in the movie too?

626
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 1: And then he ended up being with her. Anyway, she

627
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 1: has a history of dating her co stars or having relationships.

628
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 2: With her car and Ryan probably knows.

629
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 1: This, and he knows this. I think he became extremely jealous.

630
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 1: I think he did not want Justin Baldoni to have

631
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 1: all the control and power that he had. He owns

632
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 1: the movie, his studio is the one producing it, he's

633
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 1: the director. He has these scenes with her. He's a

634
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 1: good looking guy. I think he probably.

635
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 2: Said his nose.

636
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 1: I mean, the nose doesn't bother me at all. I'm

637
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 1: fine with the note. But I don't know. Maybe he

638
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 1: saw the scene where he takes his shirt off, because.

639
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 2: Those dailies, so we don't know what they saw because

640
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 2: it didn't Maybe there was some right.

641
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 1: There's also a lot of flirtatious texts between them, and

642
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 1: I don't mean flirtatious in the way where I think

643
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 1: there were lines crossed. I just mean there was a

644
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 1: good working relationship between the two of them in the beginning.

645
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 2: They were comfortable before the strikes, right, Like, what would

646
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 2: be an example, even if you're just paraphrase, just she.

647
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 1: Sends him lots of text praising him and how they're

648
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 1: working together and they're collaborating, and she's so excited to

649
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 1: be on this journey with him and they're going to

650
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 1: make this great.

651
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 2: Movie, basically saying I'm not uncomfortable with you, right, Okay,

652
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 2: who's better looking Ryan or what was his name? Justin?

653
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 1: Oh?

654
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 2: Justin?

655
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, oh yeah, like hands down.

656
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 2: But Ryan's considered good looking.

657
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he's not a bad looking guy. I

658
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 1: think he's good looking. But I think Justin Baldoni's beautiful, Like,

659
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 1: he's a beautiful man. You ask.

660
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 2: So, I don't know. I heard his nose is pretty big,

661
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 2: so he might want to reconcined.

662
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 1: I don't know. That doesn't bother me. I told you,

663
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 1: let's talk about Maybe there is the possibility that Ryan

664
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 1: Reynolds read some of the text messages between Justin and Blake.

665
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 2: Yeah.

666
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 1: Sure, because some of the text messages that he includes

667
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 1: in his complaints are flirty, and we talked about this

668
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 1: a little bit before. Yeah, they're definitely not just work related.

669
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 1: They get into you know, there's there's a text exchange

670
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: where he says something to the effect of like, oh,

671
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 1: I like nice Blake or I like vulnerable Blake. I

672
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 1: don't remember what it was, and she said, oh, you

673
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 1: mean instead of asshole Blake and he's like, yeah, I

674
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 1: don't know. They just they're being friendly, maybe too friendly.

675
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 1: But I think, to me, I think he's just going

676
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 1: with whatever direction she goes in, so that he's just

677
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 1: kind of on the same page with her. But let's

678
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 1: say maybe Ryan Reynolds got a hold of her phone

679
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 1: saw these text messages between the two of them also.

680
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 2: Which added to the concern that he had right her

681
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 2: and being close to the co star.

682
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 1: Right, So maybe if we look at it as he's

683
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 1: he's seen this raw footage of the two of them together,

684
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 1: the chemistry between them is palpable.

685
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 2: Knows who knows what Blake old Ryan to explain. He says,

686
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,320
Speaker 2: what are these text messages? And then she has to say, oh,

687
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 2: he smelled me when we were dancing it, right, So

688
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 2: I think that it might just be a conglomeration of

689
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 2: he's a good looking guy, this is his movie.

690
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 1: He's the director, he's the producer. They have an intimate

691
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,840
Speaker 1: working relationship. I think they get friendly in the beginning,

692
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 1: and they have a lot of friendly banter. I think

693
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 1: they also spend a lot of time together because she

694
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 1: wants to rewrite all these scenes and rework things, and

695
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,840
Speaker 1: he says in his complaint that they spend long hours

696
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 1: together into the night, laughing and rewriting scenes together. I

697
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 1: think maybe not only was Ryan jealous of maybe what

698
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 1: he saw in these dailies when she starts asking for

699
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,800
Speaker 1: this raw footage, but also the text messages the rapport

700
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 1: between them, because to me, it seems like there was

701
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:02,839
Speaker 1: such a shift from the first half of the movie

702
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 1: being filmed yeah, to the second half that maybe Ryan

703
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 1: Reynolds came in put his foot down and said, we're

704
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 1: going to squash this guy. He's not going to talk

705
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 1: to my wife like that. He's not going to get

706
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 1: close to my wife like that.

707
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,360
Speaker 2: I'm a Deadpool. I am dead Pool. This is not

708
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:18,800
Speaker 2: a robber. So wow.

709
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 1: Anyway, here's my final thought on the ten minute scene

710
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:23,840
Speaker 1: that was released.

711
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 2: Oh wait, that ten minutes unedited yes, it's just raw footage,

712
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 2: ten minutes of them dancing right and talking. Well, they're

713
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 2: just capturing footage, right, Okay, go ahead.

714
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 1: And then she says in her complaint that he, you know,

715
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,919
Speaker 1: kissed her down her neck and said it smells so good,

716
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: which sounds so creepy, but I tell you smell good

717
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 1: all the time. Yeah, okay, it sounds a little creepy.

718
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 1: But when you watch the actual footage, she she says,

719
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 1: I'm sorry about my spray tond and you know, my

720
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 1: body makeup or whatever, and he goes, no, it smells good.

721
00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:58,800
Speaker 1: That's completely different.

722
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:00,360
Speaker 2: Well, that was very nice of him, because I know,

723
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 2: first hands very handsy, not small.

724
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 1: They don't. I was being very he was being kind.

725
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 1: I think he was being kind trying to make her

726
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 1: feel comfortable. Anyway, my takeaway is that you're talking about

727
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 1: a woman who has exerted control from day one over

728
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: this movie. She didn't want to meet with an intimacy coordinator.

729
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 1: She takes over the wardrobe, she rewrites scenes, she rewrites

730
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 1: the script, she asks for the dailies, she wants to

731
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 1: edit the movie herself. And you're gonna tell me that

732
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 1: she felt uncomfortable. Yeah, if if she was legitimately uncomfortable

733
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 1: and felt like it was to the level of a

734
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:38,280
Speaker 1: sexual harassment allegation, you're gonna tell me that she wouldn't

735
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 1: walk away, that she wouldn't demand the intimacy coordinator.

736
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 2: Now know that Ryan Reynolds was involved, not saying it

737
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 2: was inappropriate, but he's in faulved of the script. You know,

738
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 2: he rewrote some scenes and all this stuff, and then

739
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 2: plus us thinking that he was jealous, right, and then

740
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 2: he's gonna let her get I'm sorry, if you came

741
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:02,360
Speaker 2: home and we're telling me about someone at work that

742
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 2: was inappropriate to you or make you feel uncomfortable, I

743
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 2: wouldn't be like, oh well, let's just rewrite the scene.

744
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 2: Oh well, let's just not let him come to the premiere,

745
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 2: Oh well, let's just write this little thing with the

746
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 2: civil Board whatever. I would be like, no, let that's

747
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:19,359
Speaker 2: either quit, like get away, or we need to do

748
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 2: something about this. So you're so liared.

749
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 1: So you're saying that all of these allegations would have

750
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,839
Speaker 1: been addressed in the moment at that time, not later

751
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 1: in a lawsuit.

752
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 2: And I can appreciate that some people and maybe women

753
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 2: in this case might not until later, and there's many

754
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:38,320
Speaker 2: reasons why people might hold off making a formal complaint.

755
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 2: I get that, But she had Ryan Reynolds backing her up,

756
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 2: and he is not uncomfortable in the workplace. He's very familiar,

757
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 2: they have resources, they have decades of experience to know

758
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 2: what's appropriate, inappropriate, they would have done something right then

759
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 2: and there.

760
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 1: I don't disagree with that, all right. I just want

761
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 1: to take one other thing from his complaint because I

762
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 1: have a feeling that if they end up releasing any

763
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 1: more raw footage, it will be this scene. That's just

764
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 1: me speculating, Okay, what is it? She also talks about

765
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 1: in her original complaint that she was very uncomfortable during

766
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 1: the birthing scene. There's a scene where she gives birth,

767
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 1: and she talks about how she only had like a

768
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:19,320
Speaker 1: small strip of just like barely any fabric over her,

769
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 1: you know, nother region.

770
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 2: Okah, has she Oh? Okay, all right?

771
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:26,839
Speaker 1: She claims that like the set's chaotic and that she's

772
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 1: basically just laying there naked, and that she's uncomfortable in

773
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 1: his complaint because then in her seventeen you know, she

774
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 1: lists out these seventeen protections that have to be in

775
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 1: place before she will go back and film the rest

776
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 1: of this movie. She claims that all the day players

777
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,359
Speaker 1: must be hired through their talent agencies because the man

778
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 1: who played the obgyn in that scene was a friend

779
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 1: of Justin Baldoni's. So she makes it like he just

780
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 1: called his buddy and was like, hey, you want to

781
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: be the obguy N. You want to just you know,

782
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 1: I want to see Blake Lively.

783
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 2: You know it's only gonna be a little strip, and then.

784
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 1: This is a little buddy, come on in. He then,

785
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 1: in his complaint, makes it very clear that the man

786
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,720
Speaker 1: who played the obg y N had like a master's

787
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 1: in Fine Arts from UCLA, that he was in a

788
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 1: touring group, that he.

789
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 2: Was he an actor.

790
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 1: He's a legitimate he's a legitimate actor. Also, he claims

791
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:30,360
Speaker 1: that she had on a pregnancy suit, black briefs, and

792
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,839
Speaker 1: a hospital gown. And so I feel like if they

793
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 1: release any other footage from this movie, like they did

794
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 1: with that other scene, this would be the scene that

795
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 1: just okay.

796
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 2: So we only have he said, she said, she's claiming

797
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 2: what she wore, and he's claiming that she had some

798
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 2: big pregnancy suit on with black pants or something or whatever,

799
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:50,840
Speaker 2: something unattractive, right.

800
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 1: Right, So anyway, I think that's probably if they start

801
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 1: releasing scenes because.

802
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 2: He might have invited us, right, I'd been like, hey,

803
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 2: I'm gonna flick with Blake Lively if you want, like

804
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 2: a good scene. Not necessarily like creepy. No, but they

805
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 2: could have been legitimate, like, hey, you know what, it'd

806
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 2: be kind of cool. He'd being with Blake Lightly. It's

807
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:06,879
Speaker 2: a pretty big movie.

808
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I think his I think it was his friend,

809
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 1: but I think his friend was also a legitimate actor.

810
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 2: I know. But I'm saying it's it's fair for someone

811
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 2: to be like, hey, that would be like, like, hey,

812
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:16,919
Speaker 2: you want to be in a little scene with Blake Lively.

813
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 2: That'd be pretty cool. Well, it didn't have to be

814
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:21,760
Speaker 2: always be creepy to invite someone. They could have been legitimate,

815
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 2: like hey, this is the opportunity, you know, if you

816
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 2: want to be on share screen with her.

817
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 1: Also, Blake Lively's sister was in the movie. Oh yeah, yeah,

818
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:33,439
Speaker 1: do you remember teams in the nineties. Yeah, that's her sister.

819
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:34,320
Speaker 1: It's her half sister.

820
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 2: Are we talking Sabrina?

821
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 1: Not that teen which there is a movie called teen Witch.

822
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:41,319
Speaker 1: It is from the nineties. My sister and I used

823
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:42,959
Speaker 1: to watch it all the time. There was a rap

824
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 1: scene in it. If you guys listen, are you listening

825
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:45,879
Speaker 1: to me right now?

826
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 2: Go google the rap.

827
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:49,839
Speaker 1: Scene and teen witch. It will get stuck in your head.

828
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 2: I don't know.

829
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:51,280
Speaker 1: It is amazing.

830
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:52,839
Speaker 2: There's no bewitch. That was the only one.

831
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 1: No, that's not what I'm talking I know, but that's

832
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,479
Speaker 1: what I watched. All right, let's move on. I can't

833
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 1: go through the entire complaint because it is so much,

834
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,240
Speaker 1: but I want to get to the end of this movie.

835
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,800
Speaker 2: So well, wait, hold on, one hundred and eighty pages.

836
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 2: It's all pretty substantive, right, Like, he's back in area.

837
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,879
Speaker 2: It's not one hundred eighty pages of fluff. No, and

838
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 2: just whining. He's got stuff to back up all his allegations. Yeah.

839
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:18,240
Speaker 1: And on that note, his attorney, Brian Friedman, also made

840
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:20,879
Speaker 1: an announcement that they are going to create a website

841
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 1: and they are just going to release everything. Oh yeah,

842
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 1: raw footage, transparency, messages, all of it.

843
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, release the files.

844
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 1: Released the dragon.

845
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 2: Yes, it's the cracking, but.

846
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 1: Okay, oh the crack that's right, Release the krackt that's Okay,

847
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 1: that's right, all right, So she wants these seventeen protections

848
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 1: put in place. We've talked about that before in the

849
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 1: first podcast she returned. She refuses to return to work

850
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 1: unless they agree to these seventeen things. Also, I think

851
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 1: it's very important to note because this obviously is not

852
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 1: in her complaint, but those seventeen protections that she wants

853
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 1: in place. She sends them to Wayfairer and Sony. They

854
00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:00,879
Speaker 1: try to negotiate them. They're like, hey, you know these

855
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 1: allegations of harassment and not feeling comfortable and no intimacy

856
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 1: coordinator and nudity.

857
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 2: Almost like this appears to be in admission of guilt. We're

858
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 2: not going.

859
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:11,959
Speaker 1: To We're not going to sign it as is. They try,

860
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 1: they try to alter it to make it more reflective.

861
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 2: Of maybe like going forward. Right.

862
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 1: She refuses to sign it her attorney. They have the

863
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 1: communications in here. The attorney writes back and basically says

864
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:27,720
Speaker 1: these are non negotiable. She will not return and finish

865
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 1: this movie unless you sign it.

866
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 2: As she was holding the project hostage.

867
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:33,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, so they what are they going to do. They've

868
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 1: got millions of dollars invested in this, They've been on

869
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 1: strike for months. These people haven't been working, right. They

870
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 1: finally get to go back to work, and they cannot

871
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 1: finish this movie unless they.

872
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 2: Sign question how much filming was done after the strikes,

873
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:47,919
Speaker 2: I would say they.

874
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:49,840
Speaker 1: Only got about half half of the movie done.

875
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 2: Oh so you think it was like kind of in

876
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 2: the middle.

877
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 1: I believe so.

878
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 2: Okay.

879
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,879
Speaker 1: So one of the conditions was, and we've talked about

880
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 1: this before, was the all hands in meeting that they

881
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 1: had to have. That's what they had at Blake Lively

882
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 1: and Ryan Reynolds's apartment and she invited everybody over. And

883
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 1: the way that his complaint makes it sounds is like

884
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 1: everybody comes with their their script binders because they're all

885
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:12,360
Speaker 1: excited to talk about the movie, and then you know

886
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 1: how they're going to finish the movie, and they get

887
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 1: blindsided at this meeting at her house where she has

888
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 1: another list of grievances. There's like thirty of them, and

889
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 1: she reads them aloud, and I think everyone's sitting there like.

890
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 2: She didn't get the reaction she wanted from them. Whatever

891
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 2: that was, I don't know. I thought She's like, oh, okay,

892
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 2: then I'm going to have to she.

893
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 1: Reads them aloud. Apparently Ryan Reynolds attacks Justin Baldoni and

894
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:41,800
Speaker 1: he berates him. It's chaotic. I don't know. They claim

895
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 1: that a Sony representative that was there said they've never

896
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,879
Speaker 1: seen anyone go off on somebody like that.

897
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:48,839
Speaker 2: Before, and they were between Ryan and Justin.

898
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 1: Yes, and they regret not.

899
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 2: I will man put that on a website.

900
00:43:55,760 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 1: Right, So, anyway, if this continues to go further, obviously

901
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 1: we're going to get into discovery, We're going to get

902
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 1: into witnesses, We're going to get into people testifying.

903
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is I hope it goes to trial. You

904
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 2: want it to go trast This is a want to

905
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 2: put people, you know, put her on the stand, you know. Yeah,

906
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:17,799
Speaker 2: she friends with the Amber heard by any chance? Did

907
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 2: they have any relationship?

908
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 1: I don't know.

909
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 2: Seems like they would get along.

910
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 1: So this meeting takes place on January fourth. They finished

911
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:27,320
Speaker 1: the movie starting January fifth, I think January fifth to

912
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 1: February something, they finished the movie. She claims in her

913
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 1: complaint that there were no further issues in any of this.

914
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 1: So then we go into editing. Right, we finished that,

915
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 1: We've got all the raw footage, we have to edit it.

916
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 1: She starts reaching out to Justin. She wants to help edit.

917
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 1: She wants two days in the editing bay again.

918
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 2: Let's again. She wasn't hired to be an editor.

919
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 1: She's not an editor. That's not within her scope of employment.

920
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 1: I think Sony is like, you know, walking on eggshells

921
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 1: around her, like, oh, let her go in. She ends

922
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 1: up taking over the editing and cutting her own version

923
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:00,959
Speaker 1: of the movie. There are two versions of this movie.

924
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:02,879
Speaker 2: I wanted is cash my check and gone home. I'd

925
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 2: be like, you edited, I'm done.

926
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 1: Well, I think you can tell this man is broken

927
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 1: at this point.

928
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 2: You know I'm talking no no, no, no no no. I'm

929
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,319
Speaker 2: talking like if I was Blake Lively. Oh, I'd like

930
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:13,720
Speaker 2: cash my check and I'm done.

931
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, let me just I just want to read you

932
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 1: this text. This is in June, right before they like

933
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 1: the movie is going to be released in August. And

934
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 1: he texts someone. I think it's a producer somebody, and

935
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 1: he says, this is his text. She's kicked me out

936
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 1: officially from the film. Now she's finishing it all. I

937
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 1: can't be involved music, sound, VFX everything. I'll make it

938
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:38,280
Speaker 1: through somehow. I just need to feel.

939
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 2: It all this is from to who.

940
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 1: I don't I think it's to an editor.

941
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 2: Okay, but is it kind of paste it in there

942
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 2: to show that, yeah, how he was feeling.

943
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 1: That's how he felt at that time. He's just basically saying,

944
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:56,359
Speaker 1: I've lost this movie. Like she's completely taken over. She's

945
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 1: edited her own version. I'm not even allowed in the

946
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:02,919
Speaker 1: editing bay anymore. Or she's cut her own like she's

947
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 1: cut her version and he has his version. So there's

948
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 1: two competing versions. Yeah, then I know they do the test.

949
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 1: I think we talked about this before where they do

950
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 1: the focus group and they test like which one.

951
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:14,799
Speaker 2: Does better, which one did better?

952
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 1: His did better.

953
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 2: But then, of course because she.

954
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 1: Wanted her version used, where she refused to promote the

955
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:23,360
Speaker 1: movie unless her version was used, there.

956
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 2: Is and there's text or something to show that.

957
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:27,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, then there is.

958
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 2: Man Jesus gets worse and worse.

959
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 1: Then there's some communications between him and some editors are

960
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 1: producers where they've heard through the grapevine that Sony is

961
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 1: trying to incorporate his version back into her version.

962
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 2: Well, probably because the focus groups told them to do.

963
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 1: That, right anyway, we get to also, I have to

964
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 1: also add because I think this is important. She fires

965
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 1: editors and hires Ryan Reynolds editors, and she fires.

966
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:58,760
Speaker 2: The composer who are the editor she filed fired fired.

967
00:46:59,040 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 1: I don't know. It didn't get me.

968
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:02,320
Speaker 2: I mean, like it was the ones that were originally

969
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:05,399
Speaker 2: hired for the movie. Yes, how can she fire them?

970
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 2: She's not even paying them.

971
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. She gets rid of

972
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:12,240
Speaker 1: the composer that they've hired and she uses Ryan Reynolds composer.

973
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 1: I think the problem is Sony, who's distributing this movie,

974
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 1: is walking on eggshells with her too. Yeah, and so

975
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 1: they're just kind of like, hey, just let her do

976
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 1: whatever she wants. Let's just keep her happy. She won't

977
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 1: promote the movie unless.

978
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 2: And then you wonder, and I don't know if you

979
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 2: have the answer, is Ryan or Reynolds like affiliate with

980
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:29,839
Speaker 2: Sony where maybe Sony's thinking, like we got these other

981
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 2: deals with Ryan, like we don't want to ruin this,

982
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 2: I you know what I mean, Like, I know he

983
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 2: was considered when they thought, hey, let's.

984
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 1: Just do whatever, right, So this movie is now ready

985
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 1: to premiere. In August of twenty twenty four, there is

986
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 1: a movie premiere which is you know you've been to

987
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 1: a movie premiere before.

988
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 2: I know I haven't. I have go to see him

989
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 2: on the first day.

990
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 1: They're really there's red carpet, the whole thing.

991
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:07,360
Speaker 2: Wait, weren't you supposed to go to this premiere? You

992
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 2: were invited to the premiere?

993
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 1: No, I don't think I was invited to. Yes, I

994
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 1: know Colleen Hoover. I've been friendly with Colleen Hoover for

995
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 1: years and years. We were on Watch What Happens Live together.

996
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 1: I like and Brandon, the guy that plays Alice, was

997
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 1: on Watch What Happens Live. He was the bartender. I

998
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 1: had no idea any of this was going on. This

999
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:33,760
Speaker 1: was a missed operation. I had no idea at.

1000
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 2: All any of this tension was going on.

1001
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 1: So I I just you know, I was always a

1002
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 1: big fan. I'm still a big fan of Colleen Hoover.

1003
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:45,320
Speaker 2: I do know's nothing to do with the quality of writing.

1004
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 1: She has deactivated her Instagram anymore. I don't know. I mean,

1005
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 1: I would say it. It probably has to do with everything

1006
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 1: that's going on with Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni. I

1007
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 1: can only imagine the fans probably attacking her on her

1008
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,319
Speaker 1: Instagram because she did come out right from the get

1009
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 1: go and supported Blake. Probably not the smartest thing to.

1010
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 2: Do too quick, I think. But also yeah, I feel

1011
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:15,240
Speaker 2: for her because I bet you as an author, that's

1012
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 2: that's her strength. And then she has Instagram to promote

1013
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 2: her book and she probably got a lot of praise.

1014
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:24,479
Speaker 2: Books got a lot of praise, and she didn't sign

1015
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 2: up for like people attacking her for this actor that

1016
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:31,799
Speaker 2: didn't like this actor, Like she's really got nothing to

1017
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:32,319
Speaker 2: do with that.

1018
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 1: No, I think that.

1019
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:35,840
Speaker 2: Which is also why she should have not said anything.

1020
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 2: Probably it doesn't I'm not faulting her for saying anything.

1021
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 2: I'm just saying I don't think she should have right.

1022
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 1: So we get to the premiere of this movie in

1023
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:45,959
Speaker 1: August of twenty twenty four. Initially, Blake Lively says, Justin

1024
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 1: Baldoni can't be there at all, period. He's not allowed.

1025
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:51,879
Speaker 1: It's not allowed to go. Of course, not can't be there.

1026
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:53,839
Speaker 2: He's a lead star and he ran the whole movie

1027
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 2: and directed it and everything. I mean, he should be there.

1028
00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:58,919
Speaker 2: They have to ry Reynolds there.

1029
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:02,279
Speaker 1: I don't even if he was there, they have to

1030
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:07,799
Speaker 1: negotiate to allow him to be at the premiere and

1031
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 1: during the negotiations it is so they put into place

1032
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 1: that he is allowed to go, but he has to

1033
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:15,800
Speaker 1: be in a separate theater.

1034
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:17,800
Speaker 2: That's not going.

1035
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 1: Then he's in a separate theater.

1036
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:20,400
Speaker 2: Do you have a different red carpet?

1037
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 1: No, but he cannot be on the risk the red

1038
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 1: carpet the same time as her. He has to be

1039
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 1: in a different holding area like him and his friends.

1040
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 1: And all the wayfair people are held in like this

1041
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 1: basement area. They took photos of it. There's there's drinks,

1042
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:37,239
Speaker 1: like drinks all around them. It's just like a you know,

1043
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 1: some basement.

1044
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 2: Area where she can't be okay with all, She's got

1045
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:43,360
Speaker 2: to be embarrassed at all. This is surfacing, I.

1046
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 1: Don't know, but we can we can throw some of

1047
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 1: the images up there of him with his family and

1048
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 1: his friends being held in like this basement area. Because

1049
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 1: he's not allowed to be on the red carpet the

1050
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 1: same time as her. He has to be he has

1051
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 1: to premiere the movie for the first time. This first

1052
00:50:58,680 --> 00:50:59,720
Speaker 1: time he gets to see.

1053
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 2: It, well, see it on a big screen, right, Well, no.

1054
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 1: See it. He doesn't know what the cut is. Oh,

1055
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 1: this is the first time he gets to see it.

1056
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:08,840
Speaker 1: Oh wow, he's not allowed to go to the after party.

1057
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 1: He has to finance his own after party for his

1058
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 1: family and friends. He can't go to the other the

1059
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 1: other party that he paid for because this is wayfairer

1060
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:21,400
Speaker 1: that pays for all of this stuff.

1061
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 2: Dude, why didn't he just dumper at this point the

1062
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 2: movie's already done?

1063
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:26,479
Speaker 1: Well, what do you mean dump her? How's he gonna

1064
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 1: What does that mean?

1065
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 2: Make her not allowed to govern? The premiere?

1066
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 1: He has power?

1067
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:33,360
Speaker 2: Why don't know? Does he not have any power? In

1068
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:35,359
Speaker 2: the beginning? I understudies trying to make sure the movie

1069
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 2: gets done, and she's smiling. But now it's done.

1070
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 1: So because I think.

1071
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 2: He's probably know why because he's probably a nice guy.

1072
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:47,840
Speaker 2: I think he probably is one to not have confrontation

1073
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 2: and want to keep peace and just get the movie

1074
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 2: out there, right, So it's a little bit showing it

1075
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 2: his character.

1076
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:54,400
Speaker 1: Okay. Also, I just want to this is important too,

1077
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 1: because I think this goes to the heart of who

1078
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 1: he is. The cast ends up on following him on Instagram.

1079
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 1: I think that was all basically had to be done

1080
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:05,919
Speaker 1: with the thing. I think that had to do with

1081
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 1: Blake or Ryan or whatever, just setting up that he

1082
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 1: wasn't a good guy and that they shouldn't have anything

1083
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 1: to do with him. But I do want to read

1084
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 1: this text that he included in his complaint. This is

1085
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:18,360
Speaker 1: a text from the girl named Isabella Ferrer who played

1086
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 1: the young Oh yes, okay, okay, she played young Lily.

1087
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 2: Okay, okay.

1088
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 1: She sends this to Justin Baldoni after finished filming.

1089
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, go ahead and read it.

1090
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 1: Hey just got my film developed from when we were shooting,

1091
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 1: So here's the sweet pick. I also have to say

1092
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 1: thank you so so much for an incredible experience on

1093
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 1: my first film. I still can't shake the feeling of

1094
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:42,840
Speaker 1: it all because it truly was life changing for me.

1095
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:46,279
Speaker 1: You are such a wonderful, smart and sincere director, and

1096
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 1: you created such a comfortable, safe space for me to

1097
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 1: feel like I could fully step into this role. I

1098
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 1: couldn't have asked for a more welcoming environment. It will

1099
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:56,879
Speaker 1: stay with me the rest of my life. See you soon,

1100
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 1: whether in the fall or later, and I hope you're

1101
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 1: doing well, and I'll do.

1102
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 2: You want my thoughts on that. It certainly is not harmful,

1103
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 2: but she's inexperienced as her first movie. Of course she's

1104
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:09,400
Speaker 2: going to kiss up to the boss and say it

1105
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 2: was awesome. I know, but I'm just say she certainly

1106
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 2: didn't make complaints either. It helps him, no.

1107
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:16,840
Speaker 1: But I'm saying this is how she legitimately felt after

1108
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 1: she filmed her movie with Justin BELLDONI then she later

1109
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 1: follows h I'm saying she to me she was coerced

1110
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:29,880
Speaker 1: because if you see her walk on the Red carpet,

1111
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 1: she comes on the red carpet with Blake Lively, she

1112
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 1: was styled by Blake, she wore a dress that Blake

1113
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:38,320
Speaker 1: told her to wear. She wore Blake's shoes. I think Blake.

1114
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:43,319
Speaker 2: Okay, So here we are, she's besties with Blake, are

1115
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 2: wanting to be right, starstruck with her opportunity to be

1116
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:51,280
Speaker 2: in a movie with some A listers, right, And then

1117
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 2: you'd think she would have picked up on some vibes

1118
00:53:55,880 --> 00:54:00,840
Speaker 2: of the supposed sexual harassment or whatever or professionalism with

1119
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 2: Belt with Justin. But she didn't. She didn't, So whether

1120
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:09,839
Speaker 2: she's kissing him or not, had she probably didn't hear

1121
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 2: anything from Blake about any problems.

1122
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:15,240
Speaker 1: No, because I would assume that if she was aware

1123
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:17,719
Speaker 1: of that or she thought those things were actually going on,

1124
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 1: or she thought.

1125
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:21,240
Speaker 2: Right she had some wind of anything that she wouldn't

1126
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 2: have sent it. If she's as close to Blake as

1127
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 2: she was in filming, she probably would have had wind

1128
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:26,440
Speaker 2: of something right.

1129
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:29,399
Speaker 1: So to me, that text is very telling. I thought

1130
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 1: it was.

1131
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:30,839
Speaker 2: Did she changed her to now?

1132
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:33,919
Speaker 1: I don't think anyone knows what to say all these acts.

1133
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:36,240
Speaker 1: I think everyone came out and supported Blake in the beginning,

1134
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:38,320
Speaker 1: and now I think they're all radio silence.

1135
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:40,320
Speaker 2: Was Blake lightly really that big of a star? I

1136
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:41,839
Speaker 2: don't even remember what's she been in. I don't even

1137
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 2: know what she's been in.

1138
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:45,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say so she was in the Sisterhood

1139
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 1: of the Traveling Pants.

1140
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:51,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's in my cue. I haven't seen it yet.

1141
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:53,920
Speaker 1: All right, let's go into the promotion of this movie.

1142
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 1: The promotion of this movie ends up being disastrous for

1143
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:00,959
Speaker 1: her because she promotes the movie in a way where

1144
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 1: they don't talk about the domestic violence. They promote it

1145
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 1: in a way where it's a flowery, fun, grab your

1146
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 1: girlfriend's in a cocktail, go see this movie. She also

1147
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 1: promotes her hair care line, and she promotes her booze business,

1148
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 1: so she has an alcohol brand called Betty Booze, and

1149
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 1: she has a hair care line called Blake briens Don.

1150
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:22,920
Speaker 2: Like, if she'd go on a talk show to promote

1151
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:24,760
Speaker 2: the movie, she'd also bring up those things.

1152
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:29,279
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think her promotion just was basically around this flowery,

1153
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 1: floral type of thing, very frothy, superficial. Go with your girlfriends,

1154
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 1: and by the way, try my hair care line, and

1155
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 1: also I have this booze company. And I think with

1156
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:45,440
Speaker 1: the with the premiere, there was alcohol and all these things,

1157
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:50,280
Speaker 1: and I think people did not like it because according

1158
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:54,920
Speaker 1: to the statistics, fifty five percent of domestic violence has

1159
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:58,880
Speaker 1: to do with alcohol. So it wasn't People were not

1160
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:01,399
Speaker 1: making the connection and they were not receiving it. Well,

1161
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:03,880
Speaker 1: they were like, wait, we thought this was about domestic violence,

1162
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 1: it was about survivors.

1163
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:06,719
Speaker 2: It was when you went and saw the movie, was

1164
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:09,400
Speaker 2: it about domestic violence and survivors? Did you get that

1165
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 2: message as you did in the book?

1166
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1167
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:12,759
Speaker 2: I did you have the same message as you did

1168
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:14,280
Speaker 2: in the book.

1169
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1170
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 2: Okay, But she's out promoting it like it's just a

1171
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 2: light popcorn movie, right, and she.

1172
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 1: Got massive backlash from social media because of that.

1173
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:27,239
Speaker 2: So you mean that like people saw the movie or

1174
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:30,640
Speaker 2: knew the book, and then see the way she's painting

1175
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 2: the picture of this movie. And they didn't like that

1176
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:37,440
Speaker 2: because right now, no one knows during the promotion of

1177
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:39,439
Speaker 2: this movie, no one really knows all this that we're

1178
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:41,759
Speaker 2: talking about, right, It hasn't really surfaced publicly yet.

1179
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:43,880
Speaker 1: Oh, you mean about the rift between the two. I know.

1180
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:46,719
Speaker 1: This is when people start speculating because people notice that

1181
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:47,880
Speaker 1: he's not on the red pat That's what.

1182
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:51,319
Speaker 2: I'm saying is they're making the independent conclusion that the

1183
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:53,120
Speaker 2: way you're talking about the movie and the way the

1184
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:57,719
Speaker 2: book reads and the movie shows is not how you're portraying. Right.

1185
00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:00,160
Speaker 1: Oh, she also removed him from all the marketing material

1186
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:02,759
Speaker 1: for why wouldn't. If you look at the poster, the

1187
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:06,560
Speaker 1: movie poster, it's just her. He's nowhere on it. She

1188
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 1: just writes them out completely. He's in a basement.

1189
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 2: Well, the title now seems very fitting. It ends with us.

1190
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:15,359
Speaker 2: The name the titles us. It's over.

1191
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 1: It is over. Yeah, So she's promoting this movie. She's

1192
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 1: getting major backlash. This is where the pr people come in,

1193
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 1: and this is where she accuses him of a smear campaign.

1194
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 1: And you know, here's my thoughts on all these.

1195
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:30,400
Speaker 2: Wait, was he running around promoting the movie? Was he

1196
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:31,720
Speaker 2: doing talk shows and stuff like that?

1197
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 1: He was promoting the movie, but he was promoting it differently.

1198
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 2: But he was promoting. She allowed him to go promote

1199
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:38,240
Speaker 2: the movie.

1200
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 1: He did his own thing. He was not allowed to

1201
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:42,480
Speaker 1: promote with her. He so he just pivoted and did

1202
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:43,120
Speaker 1: his own thing.

1203
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:45,640
Speaker 2: Okay, So apparently.

1204
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 1: Sony, She and Sony came up with this marketing promotional

1205
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 1: plan which had to do with this whole flowery type

1206
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:53,440
Speaker 1: of you know, grab your way.

1207
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 2: Why would she do that? Why do you think she

1208
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 2: would do it? Want to paint it that way? She

1209
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 2: hadn't read the book and she doesn't.

1210
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 1: I think it was just a big miss step.

1211
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:04,480
Speaker 2: I think she But why do you think was she

1212
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 2: trying to change the image of the movie. Was she

1213
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 2: just playing stupid and she probably just doesn't know the message?

1214
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 1: Well, I think she didn't read the book. I think

1215
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 1: she didn't meet with the No More group that he justin.

1216
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 1: Baldoni offered for her to meet with this domestic violence organization.

1217
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 1: She didn't want to meet with them. I think she

1218
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 1: focused on this flowery image of it because she thought

1219
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 1: that was the right thing to do.

1220
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 2: I mean, okay, okay, but here's she was a little

1221
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 2: far removed from from being a part of this whole

1222
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 2: group and trying to make this movie and promote it,

1223
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:38,439
Speaker 2: and so then she deviated and did her own thing, deviated, did.

1224
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:41,440
Speaker 1: Her own thing, and it didn't go well. And he

1225
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:42,280
Speaker 1: when he did it.

1226
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 2: Do you see any of the promos, because I know

1227
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 2: you read the book on your own long ago, and

1228
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:48,480
Speaker 2: you were excited for the movie to come out, and

1229
00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:50,640
Speaker 2: you were very supportive of calling me over having her

1230
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:54,480
Speaker 2: an awesome book turned into a movie, and then you

1231
00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 2: saw the movie, And then did you see her promos

1232
00:58:57,480 --> 00:58:57,880
Speaker 2: or anything?

1233
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 1: I did. I saw hercles, and I saw I saw

1234
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:04,640
Speaker 1: where people were saying, this is tone death.

1235
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 2: And did you agree with it?

1236
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 1: I did, okay, And I know that his way of

1237
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 1: promoting the movie, because he had to promote on his own.

1238
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:12,760
Speaker 1: He's just off on his own doing interviews. He's not

1239
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:15,560
Speaker 1: with her with the project still, it's Blake and the

1240
00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 1: cast and it's him on his own.

1241
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:22,080
Speaker 2: And this guy got I know you can't a hostile

1242
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:22,640
Speaker 2: take away.

1243
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 1: I know you can't help the fool. Sorry for this man,

1244
00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 1: but he's when he's talking about the movie. He's talking

1245
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:30,960
Speaker 1: about victims and about bringing it to light and about

1246
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 1: how hopefully it helps people and people can watch the

1247
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:37,200
Speaker 1: movie and maybe feel empowered to leave a situation or

1248
00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:40,440
Speaker 1: good man. Yeah, So she does not like that because

1249
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:44,959
Speaker 1: there are two different promotional avenues going on and people

1250
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:48,360
Speaker 1: are she's getting major backlash and people are thinking what

1251
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 1: he's doing and saying the right thing. So I think

1252
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 1: she's living.

1253
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, lived, You're right. That was the final nail

1254
00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:01,400
Speaker 2: on the coffin where she's like, he was not supposed

1255
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 2: to be getting any praise else. Let me tell you,

1256
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:05,040
Speaker 2: he's not even in the promo shots.

1257
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:07,200
Speaker 1: I read this in the complaint and I believe it,

1258
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:10,040
Speaker 1: even though there isn't any correspondence back this up. But

1259
01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:13,760
Speaker 1: I do believe it Justin Baldoni in his complaint, and

1260
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:15,560
Speaker 1: I haven't heard anybody else talk about this. I don't

1261
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:17,960
Speaker 1: know if anybody else picked up on this, But during

1262
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:22,040
Speaker 1: that promotional tour where she was getting major backlash from

1263
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:26,160
Speaker 1: social media, she and Ryan Reynolds, through their agent, reached

1264
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:30,080
Speaker 1: out to Justin Baldoni and Wayfairer and demanded that they

1265
01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:35,840
Speaker 1: write a public apology, and they drafted the public apology

1266
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:39,040
Speaker 1: and told them you have to issue this and he.

1267
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:43,400
Speaker 2: Apologized for what for the marketing? Oh, like, I'm sorry

1268
01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:46,680
Speaker 2: for talking about domestic abuse and he is a popcorn movie. No.

1269
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:50,160
Speaker 1: She wanted them to take to Fall on the Sword

1270
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:54,440
Speaker 1: and say it was our error in judgment. You know,

1271
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 1: we shouldn't have marketed the movie like this. And he refused. Yeah,

1272
01:00:58,280 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 1: he refused, wayfairer.

1273
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:02,400
Speaker 2: He drew the line. He was like, I'm done. I'm not.

1274
01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:09,160
Speaker 1: So he refuses, and apparently their their response was, now

1275
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:12,240
Speaker 1: the gloves are off. Yeah, now the gloves are off.

1276
01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:15,840
Speaker 1: And then they sue him in December. So this was August.

1277
01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:19,000
Speaker 1: This is the August time frame when this movie premieres.

1278
01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:21,200
Speaker 2: And they're doing only a month later they see them, No.

1279
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:23,280
Speaker 1: This is August. They sue him in December.

1280
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:26,000
Speaker 2: Oh decent, I thinky, said Seppewer. So yeah, not long

1281
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:26,720
Speaker 2: four months.

1282
01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:28,760
Speaker 1: No, And then this is where all the PR people

1283
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:31,680
Speaker 1: come into play. Blake Lively got a hold of those

1284
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:36,440
Speaker 1: personal text messages between Justin Baldoni and his PR people,

1285
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:42,560
Speaker 1: and give me a break. Subpoena, Shippina, there's no subpoena.

1286
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:47,360
Speaker 1: There's not a subpoena. This is PR people confiscating phones

1287
01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:52,000
Speaker 1: and then giving these private text messages between Justin Baldoni

1288
01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:55,840
Speaker 1: and his PR people to Blake Lively's team. Yeah, and

1289
01:01:55,880 --> 01:02:00,120
Speaker 1: then they sue him saying sexual harassment and a smear campaign.

1290
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:02,520
Speaker 1: And I want to talk about the PR thing. First

1291
01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:05,280
Speaker 1: of all, this is this is Hollywood, and these are

1292
01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:08,400
Speaker 1: a less actors, and people hire crisis management teams, and

1293
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:13,000
Speaker 1: everybody has a publicist. You're trying to spin your client's story.

1294
01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:15,840
Speaker 1: They're trying to spin their client story. They're trying to

1295
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:20,040
Speaker 1: get good, you know, good stories out there about Blake.

1296
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:22,520
Speaker 1: He's trying to get good stories out there about him.

1297
01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:25,280
Speaker 1: He doesn't want this sexual harassment stuff to come up

1298
01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:28,000
Speaker 1: that she's accusing him of. Of course, he hired a

1299
01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:31,920
Speaker 1: crisis management team. He's been accused of things, He's been

1300
01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:33,080
Speaker 1: accused of being as.

1301
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:35,720
Speaker 2: Sexual Probas didn't hire a team to bash her. He

1302
01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:38,360
Speaker 2: hired a team to try to control the situation.

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Speaker 1: That's the way it was to me. There is a

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Speaker 1: text that that she uses in her complaint where his

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Speaker 1: PR girl Jen Abels, says something to the effect of

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Speaker 1: he wants us to be able to bury her something

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Speaker 1: like that. And the new and the whole New York

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Speaker 1: Times article goes with that text. But if you read

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Speaker 1: multitudes of tech that he has with his PR team,

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Speaker 1: he says repeatedly, don't do that. Is that a bad

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Speaker 1: article that we did. Don't put bad stuff out like

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Speaker 1: He makes it clearer that he doesn't want it to

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Speaker 1: be a bashing session. He's just trying to protect.

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Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, that's exactly what I said. He did.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know he's trying.

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Speaker 2: To put that he's a good dude.

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Speaker 1: That's the way it looks to me, is he is

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Speaker 1: trying to do nothing more than protect his own image,

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Speaker 1: his own movie, his reputation, his investment because there was

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Speaker 1: a second book, and how is the second book going

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Speaker 1: to get made? I heard and I asked people that

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Speaker 1: would know if he purchased the rights to the second book,

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Speaker 1: and they say, yeah, sure he did.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think that's given right.

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Speaker 1: So now, how does this man make this movie?

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Speaker 2: He may not?

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Speaker 1: How can he?

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Speaker 2: He may not. He's going to focus on his former

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Speaker 2: million dollar all the suit.

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Speaker 1: He can't make this movie. And I think that's that's

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Speaker 1: one of the reasons why you probably ask for four

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Speaker 1: hundred million, because that goes to show actual No. Yeah, damages.

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Speaker 2: Well, it sucks because although the money is good, he

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Speaker 2: really wants to make the movie.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, he wants to make the movie.

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Speaker 2: Agree, But we'd have to make ten million dollars with

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Speaker 2: the movie than one hundred million dollars in court.

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Speaker 1: I agree on.

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Speaker 2: But now with Blake Levely, screw her seriously. I wouldn't

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Speaker 2: work with her. Why would you work? Why would anyone

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01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:13,960
Speaker 2: want to work with her? Now? She's litigious, she's dangerous.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh no, I don't. I don't disagree with that

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01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:18,520
Speaker 1: at all.

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Speaker 2: We need to get Justin on here. You want to

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01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:22,480
Speaker 2: get Justin ask him what the heck is going on?

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Speaker 2: Or we going to get Blake on here? That'd be better.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, I'm sure Blake and Ryan Reynolds are

1348
01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:31,919
Speaker 2: a lot listeners right now going We needed to clear

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Speaker 2: those up, right.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure after Blake listens to this episode, she's gonna

1351
01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:45,680
Speaker 1: definitely want to come on this podcast. Let's just go

1352
01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:47,480
Speaker 1: in a little bit into some things that are in

1353
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:50,080
Speaker 1: the news. First of all, the whole Deadpool thing, where

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01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:51,800
Speaker 1: people are picking up on the fact that one of

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01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:55,360
Speaker 1: the characters nice Pool, is making fun of Justin Baldoni.

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01:04:56,520 --> 01:04:59,640
Speaker 1: Ryan Reynolds plays problem Deadpool, but he also has that

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01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:03,920
Speaker 1: alter ego character nice Pool, who there's all these you know,

1358
01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:06,880
Speaker 1: similarities in his speech that have to do with Justin Baldoni,

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01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:08,840
Speaker 1: Like he wears the man bun. He talks about how

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01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:12,480
Speaker 1: he's a feminist, he talks about how yeah, and you

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01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:15,400
Speaker 1: said he is, I'm sorry he is. He's a good

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01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:19,680
Speaker 1: looking guy, manun. He pulls it off. You gotta google

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01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 1: some images. He pulls it off.

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Speaker 2: Well, well, it's not like I'm gonna be able to

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01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:24,080
Speaker 2: figure out if he's good looking.

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Speaker 1: Right, all right, so for it. Baldoni's attorney sends a

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01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:32,120
Speaker 1: you know, a preservation of evidence letter to the movie

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01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:37,000
Speaker 1: studio to Marvel over the nice Pool character. So Baldoni's

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01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:40,680
Speaker 1: attorney believes that Lively's husband, Ryan Reynolds was flagrantly mocking

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01:05:40,720 --> 01:05:44,320
Speaker 1: Baldoni in a sequence in Marvel's Deadpool and Wolverine. The

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01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:49,400
Speaker 1: sequence features Reynold's playing nice Pool, an oafish alternate version

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Speaker 1: of the hero Deadpool, saying such lines as where in

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01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:56,360
Speaker 1: God's name is the intimacy Coordinator and complimenting Ladypool for

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01:05:56,480 --> 01:06:00,000
Speaker 1: snapping back into shape after giving birth. When Deadpool points

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01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:03,200
Speaker 1: sell Nice Pool's misogyny in the scene, the latter replies,

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01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:07,080
Speaker 1: it's okay, I identify as a feminist. During the development, production,

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01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:10,320
Speaker 1: and marketing of It Ends with Us, Baldoni often touted

1378
01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:13,000
Speaker 1: his credentials as a feminist and an ally to women.

1379
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:15,040
Speaker 1: He also does a podcast that had to do with

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01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:18,600
Speaker 1: like toxic masculinity and you know, things like that. So

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01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:24,280
Speaker 1: the attorney sending the preservation of evidence letter, what does

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01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:27,200
Speaker 1: that suggest to you? What is what is that for?

1383
01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:27,960
Speaker 1: What is the intent?

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01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:29,680
Speaker 2: Well, because the're afraid they're going to destroy it and

1385
01:06:29,720 --> 01:06:31,080
Speaker 2: then they want to use it against him.

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Speaker 1: Right, So I think at some point there might be

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Speaker 1: some lawsuit against Marble as well. I don't know. Yeah,

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01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:39,040
Speaker 1: but I'm sure Marvel Studios is like, are you kidding me? Like,

1389
01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:41,240
Speaker 1: we don't want to be involved in this, but anyway,

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01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:43,960
Speaker 1: So there's a preservation of evidence letter which basically says

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Speaker 1: anything has to do with the character of Nice School.

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01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:48,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I don't know how involved they would be

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01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:52,040
Speaker 2: other than just being a participant of providing evidence. Yeah,

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01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:54,480
Speaker 2: I mean, were they going to assume Marble saying you

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01:06:54,520 --> 01:06:57,600
Speaker 2: made fun of just involving a man? That seems like

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01:06:57,640 --> 01:07:00,560
Speaker 2: a stretch. Right, But yeah, you're right, it doesn't look

1397
01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:03,280
Speaker 2: good for well, it doesn't if I'm involved in some

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01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:07,880
Speaker 2: personal issue with someone and then they send a letter

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01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:10,600
Speaker 2: to my boss saying preserving evidence. Yeah, that's not a

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01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:13,520
Speaker 2: good look for me. So that's essentially what they did.

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Speaker 1: Also, I think it's important to get into this rooftop

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01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:20,240
Speaker 1: scene so that we can then go into this six

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01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:24,040
Speaker 1: and a half minute voice memo from Justin Baldoni to

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01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:27,400
Speaker 1: Blake Lively that was just released today, so we get

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01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:28,040
Speaker 1: to discuss that.

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01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:29,840
Speaker 2: Okay, what is the rooftop scene and.

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Speaker 1: The rooftop scene in the book, this is a pivotal

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01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:36,520
Speaker 1: scene because this is where the main character, Lily meets

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01:07:36,680 --> 01:07:39,720
Speaker 1: Ryle for the first time. Now, I think this is

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01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:43,040
Speaker 1: a very important scene because we're talking about domestic violence,

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01:07:43,080 --> 01:07:45,520
Speaker 1: and I think Colleen Hoover does an amazing job of

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01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:50,880
Speaker 1: introducing Ryle to us as a doctor and as someone

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01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:54,520
Speaker 1: that's very passionate. When she first meets him on this rooftop,

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01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:57,840
Speaker 1: he had just been in a surgery and he had

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01:07:57,880 --> 01:07:59,920
Speaker 1: lost I think a child had died, and he was

1416
01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:03,920
Speaker 1: reeling and he was emotional and he was upset, and

1417
01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:06,720
Speaker 1: you immediately are attracted to him as a good guy.

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01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:11,040
Speaker 1: He also shows a little bit of a violent side

1419
01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:13,680
Speaker 1: where he kicks a chair, and I think this is

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01:08:13,720 --> 01:08:16,360
Speaker 1: all foreshadowing as to who he is as a complex

1421
01:08:16,479 --> 01:08:19,320
Speaker 1: character later in the book, when we learn more about

1422
01:08:19,360 --> 01:08:22,840
Speaker 1: him and his background. Anyway, I would say a lot

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Speaker 1: of people have said this is an iconic scene, a

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01:08:24,840 --> 01:08:25,679
Speaker 1: pivotal scene.

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01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:27,639
Speaker 2: I would agree with that as far as the storyline

1426
01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:29,800
Speaker 2: exactly so.

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Speaker 1: In Baldoni's complaint, he says that Blake Lively reaches out

1428
01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:38,559
Speaker 1: to him and says, hey, can I take a pass

1429
01:08:38,720 --> 01:08:42,200
Speaker 1: at writing this scene? Obviously there's a script and the

1430
01:08:42,200 --> 01:08:45,880
Speaker 1: scene's already been written. She wants to write the scene. Again,

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01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:48,040
Speaker 1: Let's go back to the fact that as far as

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01:08:48,040 --> 01:08:52,320
Speaker 1: an actress, she's her scope of her employment is actress.

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Speaker 1: And again, as far as he alleges, she hasn't read

1434
01:08:56,800 --> 01:09:00,240
Speaker 1: the book. According to his complaint, there's some time type

1435
01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:03,640
Speaker 1: of meeting at her New York penthouse and Taylor and

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01:09:03,720 --> 01:09:07,040
Speaker 1: Ryan are both there, and Blake has rewritten this scene,

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01:09:07,160 --> 01:09:11,920
Speaker 1: and according to Justin Baldoni, they're both raving. And when

1438
01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:14,919
Speaker 1: I say both, I mean Ryan and Taylor are raving

1439
01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:19,479
Speaker 1: about how amazing the scene is. That she has written,

1440
01:09:20,200 --> 01:09:24,280
Speaker 1: so Justin Baldoni leaves, and apparently he says to her

1441
01:09:24,320 --> 01:09:26,280
Speaker 1: at some point in a text or I'm not sure

1442
01:09:26,320 --> 01:09:33,080
Speaker 1: what he thanks her for her passion, meaning great job

1443
01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:37,120
Speaker 1: putting a lot of work into it, but I don't know,

1444
01:09:37,160 --> 01:09:38,680
Speaker 1: we'll probably I think he says, I was.

1445
01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:43,920
Speaker 2: Trying to recognize her going out above and beyond, so

1446
01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:48,000
Speaker 2: to speak, in writing and contributing, when really he didn't

1447
01:09:48,040 --> 01:09:49,360
Speaker 2: want to hear it, right.

1448
01:09:49,400 --> 01:09:52,599
Speaker 1: And you know, I think he also knows he's walking

1449
01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:54,880
Speaker 1: on eggshells with her, right, So he's trying to say

1450
01:09:55,240 --> 01:09:59,080
Speaker 1: he's trying to give her compliments without letting her completely

1451
01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:01,680
Speaker 1: take over. So I think he probably thought that was

1452
01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:03,280
Speaker 1: a great way to be like, you know what, I

1453
01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:07,000
Speaker 1: appreciate the passion that you put into that. And then

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01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:07,479
Speaker 1: I think.

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Speaker 2: Choice of words, well, passion, Yeah, I mean that's neither

1456
01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:14,920
Speaker 2: here nor there, right, And.

1457
01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:16,920
Speaker 1: Then he says something to the effect of, you know,

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01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:20,759
Speaker 1: most likely the scene will be what was already written,

1459
01:10:21,040 --> 01:10:23,040
Speaker 1: and then some of the things, and like, I'm sure

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01:10:23,040 --> 01:10:25,040
Speaker 1: he's trying to include some of the things.

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01:10:25,240 --> 01:10:25,439
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:28,800
Speaker 1: Anyway, apparently, according to him, she goes silent for days.

1463
01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:31,840
Speaker 1: He doesn't hear from her, then I guess he gets

1464
01:10:31,880 --> 01:10:34,760
Speaker 1: a text. This is the Khalisi text, right, and I'll

1465
01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:37,200
Speaker 1: read a little bit more of the text. So she says,

1466
01:10:38,280 --> 01:10:41,479
Speaker 1: they asked what you thought specifically after and they means

1467
01:10:41,560 --> 01:10:45,120
Speaker 1: Ryan Reynolds and Taylor Swift, who she's referring to. They

1468
01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:47,400
Speaker 1: checked in so many times. I told them that you

1469
01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:50,400
Speaker 1: laughed a bunch and said it's probably a blend, but

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01:10:50,640 --> 01:10:54,720
Speaker 1: you appreciate my passion so much, which of course did

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01:10:54,760 --> 01:10:57,840
Speaker 1: not feel great for me or them to have my

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01:10:58,040 --> 01:11:03,000
Speaker 1: passion be praised instead of any specific contribution, or even

1473
01:11:03,160 --> 01:11:06,320
Speaker 1: just that you don't like the pages, which was fine also,

1474
01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:09,720
Speaker 1: So she's basically saying, hey, they keep checking in. They

1475
01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:12,680
Speaker 1: want to know your thoughts. They thought it was amazing.

1476
01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:16,080
Speaker 1: Why are you not thinking it's amazing too? Then there's

1477
01:11:16,120 --> 01:11:18,320
Speaker 1: a lot more that has to do with how amazing

1478
01:11:18,360 --> 01:11:22,639
Speaker 1: and how great her two dragons are. Then the very

1479
01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:25,240
Speaker 1: end of this text is the Kalisi text, where she

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01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:28,840
Speaker 1: basically makes reference to Game of Thrones where she's Kalisi

1481
01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:32,120
Speaker 1: and they're her two dragons. And to me, I take

1482
01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:35,479
Speaker 1: that as kind of a veiled threat, like, not only

1483
01:11:35,520 --> 01:11:38,000
Speaker 1: am I blake Lively, but I just want to warn

1484
01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:40,120
Speaker 1: you that I have two of the most powerful people

1485
01:11:40,160 --> 01:11:42,879
Speaker 1: in the world as my friends, and you should probably

1486
01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:45,680
Speaker 1: go along that. We all think this rooftop scene is

1487
01:11:45,720 --> 01:11:50,240
Speaker 1: amazing anyway, So this voice memo comes into play because

1488
01:11:50,280 --> 01:11:54,679
Speaker 1: this is what I think happened. I think he starts

1489
01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:58,000
Speaker 1: thinking about how he praised her passion. But now she's

1490
01:11:58,120 --> 01:12:00,600
Speaker 1: ticked off and she's sent him this time, and she

1491
01:12:00,720 --> 01:12:03,280
Speaker 1: doesn't like what he said, and she doesn't want to

1492
01:12:03,280 --> 01:12:05,680
Speaker 1: be praised for her passion. She wants to be praised.

1493
01:12:05,400 --> 01:12:08,680
Speaker 2: For her Shane Reynolds, And it's like, what do you

1494
01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:09,240
Speaker 2: think about this?

1495
01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:12,200
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm sure, And so everybody's probably.

1496
01:12:12,240 --> 01:12:12,920
Speaker 2: He wrote it.

1497
01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:16,519
Speaker 1: He was insulted, right, So I'm sure everyone around her

1498
01:12:16,600 --> 01:12:18,800
Speaker 1: is like, don't you know he doesn't know what he's

1499
01:12:18,840 --> 01:12:22,519
Speaker 1: talking about and you know, praising her. So I'm sure

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01:12:23,280 --> 01:12:26,439
Speaker 1: Justin Baldoni is laying in bed with his mind reeling,

1501
01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:29,800
Speaker 1: thinking about how he messed up because he praised her

1502
01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:33,280
Speaker 1: for this passion she put into rewriting and guess second

1503
01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:37,120
Speaker 1: guessing everything. He's thinking, Great, now she's mad. Ryan Reynolds

1504
01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:42,040
Speaker 1: is mad, Taylor Swift is mad. I'm screwed, right, So

1505
01:12:42,120 --> 01:12:45,360
Speaker 1: he sends her this sixth minute, thirty second two in

1506
01:12:45,400 --> 01:12:48,479
Speaker 1: the morning voice memo at two o'clock in the morning,

1507
01:12:48,680 --> 01:12:51,960
Speaker 1: which Shane and I both listen to. My takeaway from

1508
01:12:51,960 --> 01:12:54,559
Speaker 1: this voice memo and you can tell me yours was

1509
01:12:54,600 --> 01:12:57,559
Speaker 1: this man was reeling, his mind was going crazy, and

1510
01:12:57,600 --> 01:13:00,840
Speaker 1: he was trying to do everything possible to get her

1511
01:13:00,920 --> 01:13:02,360
Speaker 1: back into his good graces.

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01:13:02,439 --> 01:13:05,240
Speaker 2: I mean, how many times do you he he? I

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01:13:05,280 --> 01:13:09,120
Speaker 2: agreed that he was, and I think his voicemail was stupid.

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Speaker 2: I know it looked he sounded weak. He sounded like, Okay,

1515
01:13:13,640 --> 01:13:17,680
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I love you, You're so great, and like

1516
01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:20,760
Speaker 2: that was kind of the tone. I felt bad for him,

1517
01:13:21,040 --> 01:13:23,880
Speaker 2: but I was like, dude, you're not going to win

1518
01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:24,799
Speaker 2: anyone over.

1519
01:13:24,720 --> 01:13:27,440
Speaker 1: Like that, so in your mind, well to me, he apologized,

1520
01:13:27,479 --> 01:13:30,559
Speaker 1: I be and sweet. It should have been. First of all,

1521
01:13:31,320 --> 01:13:34,240
Speaker 1: as a as a woman with three children, and Blake

1522
01:13:34,280 --> 01:13:36,479
Speaker 1: Lively has four kids, I don't want a seven minute

1523
01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:38,519
Speaker 1: voice memo. I'm not going to listen to it.

1524
01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:41,599
Speaker 2: That was a high person. I wouldn't want a seven

1525
01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:44,080
Speaker 2: minute voice memo that is entirely too long.

1526
01:13:44,439 --> 01:13:46,720
Speaker 1: If you want to apologize.

1527
01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:47,400
Speaker 2: It was harsh for me to finish that.

1528
01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:49,439
Speaker 1: I know it was a lot. It was a lot

1529
01:13:49,439 --> 01:13:52,559
Speaker 1: of repetition. It was a lot of stammering, stammering. It

1530
01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:57,719
Speaker 1: was a lot of I'm sorry, I shouldn't it wasn't

1531
01:13:57,720 --> 01:14:01,080
Speaker 1: he saying things like basically like you're so awesome him. Yeah,

1532
01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:05,599
Speaker 1: and I'm working with Blake Lively to Ryan Ryan, say

1533
01:14:05,640 --> 01:14:06,280
Speaker 1: hi to Ryan.

1534
01:14:07,120 --> 01:14:09,080
Speaker 2: I can't believe I because he wasn't playing like Taylor

1535
01:14:09,080 --> 01:14:10,200
Speaker 2: Swift in the background, or.

1536
01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:13,840
Speaker 1: I get to I get to I get to be

1537
01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:15,720
Speaker 1: with Blake Lively every day.

1538
01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:16,519
Speaker 2: I mean, it was a lot.

1539
01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:17,320
Speaker 1: It was too much.

1540
01:14:17,560 --> 01:14:22,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was saying that. That was pathetic, that was serious. Okay.

1541
01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:26,760
Speaker 1: But the question is, because clearly it was his side

1542
01:14:26,800 --> 01:14:28,800
Speaker 1: that released his voice. It wasn't her.

1543
01:14:29,400 --> 01:14:30,840
Speaker 2: He's releasing it, So.

1544
01:14:31,680 --> 01:14:32,599
Speaker 1: What is his intent?

1545
01:14:32,720 --> 01:14:34,000
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know if that did him

1546
01:14:34,040 --> 01:14:36,439
Speaker 2: any favorites. I don't think it did anything bad for him.

1547
01:14:36,840 --> 01:14:39,600
Speaker 2: It is to me it made him look weak. And

1548
01:14:39,640 --> 01:14:41,679
Speaker 2: it may be and it's not like, oh my gosh,

1549
01:14:42,080 --> 01:14:46,600
Speaker 2: he apologized, therefore she should he's a great guy. No,

1550
01:14:46,680 --> 01:14:49,320
Speaker 2: I don't know. You could have been apologizing because because

1551
01:14:49,960 --> 01:14:55,639
Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's I think his voicemail had

1552
01:14:55,920 --> 01:14:59,360
Speaker 2: good intentions. He was trying to reel her in. He

1553
01:14:59,479 --> 01:15:02,439
Speaker 2: was trying to, you know, appease her. He was trying

1554
01:15:02,439 --> 01:15:04,479
Speaker 2: to make her feel better so they could get back

1555
01:15:04,520 --> 01:15:07,320
Speaker 2: to filming or whatever it was. But I think it

1556
01:15:07,880 --> 01:15:11,320
Speaker 2: was not It was disingenuous because he was just saying

1557
01:15:11,680 --> 01:15:14,080
Speaker 2: what he thinks he needed to say.

1558
01:15:14,680 --> 01:15:17,160
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, Yeah, but what he needed

1559
01:15:17,200 --> 01:15:17,799
Speaker 1: to say.

1560
01:15:19,080 --> 01:15:21,960
Speaker 2: It was actually his reasoning was not wrong. His reasoning

1561
01:15:22,280 --> 01:15:27,840
Speaker 2: was valid, legitimate and real, right, and it had good intentions. Okay,

1562
01:15:27,920 --> 01:15:28,960
Speaker 2: but it just sound as stupid.

1563
01:15:29,040 --> 01:15:32,639
Speaker 1: There's also a section in this long voice memo where

1564
01:15:32,680 --> 01:15:36,519
Speaker 1: he makes reference to I'm so sorry that you've gone

1565
01:15:36,560 --> 01:15:39,880
Speaker 1: through this with other directors or whatever, and a lot

1566
01:15:39,920 --> 01:15:42,320
Speaker 1: of people I've seen people talking about this online and

1567
01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:44,400
Speaker 1: they didn't know what he was referring to, and they

1568
01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:46,200
Speaker 1: didn't understand the context at this point.

1569
01:15:46,479 --> 01:15:48,640
Speaker 2: I might know, but I interpreted that as he was

1570
01:15:48,680 --> 01:15:51,920
Speaker 2: just like he heard stories directly from Blake. So he's like, oh, yeah,

1571
01:15:51,920 --> 01:15:54,840
Speaker 2: that's terrible. I'm not like that, right. I don't know

1572
01:15:54,880 --> 01:15:55,800
Speaker 2: if there was any history.

1573
01:15:55,840 --> 01:15:57,599
Speaker 1: Well there is, because I look back at the complaint

1574
01:15:57,640 --> 01:15:59,880
Speaker 1: because I remember reading something like that, and I did.

1575
01:16:00,360 --> 01:16:03,200
Speaker 1: I did find it in the complaint and the context is,

1576
01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:07,840
Speaker 1: he states, early in the pre production stage, Lively sent

1577
01:16:07,920 --> 01:16:11,760
Speaker 1: Baldoni a long text describing how directors never permitted her

1578
01:16:11,760 --> 01:16:14,040
Speaker 1: to write scenes for the movies that she acted in,

1579
01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:18,200
Speaker 1: nor gave her writing credits, even making her hand scribble

1580
01:16:18,240 --> 01:16:20,760
Speaker 1: her suggestions for lines so that they could not be

1581
01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:23,960
Speaker 1: traced back to her. Lively boasted that she had even

1582
01:16:24,000 --> 01:16:28,760
Speaker 1: written for her husband's movies. So I think she sent

1583
01:16:28,880 --> 01:16:33,000
Speaker 1: these long texts as a manipulation tactic of like, hey,

1584
01:16:33,439 --> 01:16:37,040
Speaker 1: I know what I'm doing. I've written scenes, I've rewritten things.

1585
01:16:37,120 --> 01:16:40,120
Speaker 1: I've just never been given credit before, kind of a

1586
01:16:40,240 --> 01:16:44,160
Speaker 1: woe is me type of feel badly for me. And

1587
01:16:44,200 --> 01:16:46,400
Speaker 1: then that's what he does in that voice memo. He's like, hey,

1588
01:16:46,520 --> 01:16:48,519
Speaker 1: I am so sorry that you were treated like that.

1589
01:16:48,920 --> 01:16:51,160
Speaker 2: Ask them I'm not like that. And if you remember,

1590
01:16:51,200 --> 01:16:53,080
Speaker 2: he's he's not like that. Now, let's go finish the

1591
01:16:53,120 --> 01:16:56,000
Speaker 2: movie right now, get out of the editing.

1592
01:16:59,080 --> 01:17:02,360
Speaker 1: Okay. Anyways, So that is our take on the on

1593
01:17:02,400 --> 01:17:04,160
Speaker 1: the six and a half minute.

1594
01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:07,840
Speaker 2: I always I recommend that anyone listening to this podcast

1595
01:17:08,040 --> 01:17:10,800
Speaker 2: do not listen to the seven minutes or you will

1596
01:17:10,840 --> 01:17:11,439
Speaker 2: want it back.

1597
01:17:13,120 --> 01:17:16,120
Speaker 1: It's a lot, it's a lot of ramd you feel

1598
01:17:16,160 --> 01:17:19,439
Speaker 1: for him too. I think the intent of them releasing

1599
01:17:19,479 --> 01:17:22,080
Speaker 1: it was so that you could hear in his voice

1600
01:17:22,120 --> 01:17:25,080
Speaker 1: that he is literally trying to just get along with it.

1601
01:17:25,560 --> 01:17:28,559
Speaker 2: He was saying what she wanted to hear because he

1602
01:17:28,800 --> 01:17:31,759
Speaker 2: just wanted to move on, and that.

1603
01:17:31,600 --> 01:17:34,960
Speaker 1: He's the nice guy in this. He's telling her she's amazing.

1604
01:17:35,080 --> 01:17:37,960
Speaker 1: He's saying he loves Ryan. He's bowing down.

1605
01:17:38,479 --> 01:17:40,960
Speaker 2: I know that, I'm sorry. You know you want to

1606
01:17:41,360 --> 01:17:44,599
Speaker 2: crap out O Ryan. And he's never going to listen

1607
01:17:44,640 --> 01:17:49,479
Speaker 2: to Taylor Swifts song again. You know that, right either.

1608
01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:53,599
Speaker 1: So Anyway, originally the first pre trial conference was scheduled

1609
01:17:53,600 --> 01:17:55,960
Speaker 1: for February twelve. We do know now that it's been

1610
01:17:56,040 --> 01:17:59,599
Speaker 1: moved up. It is actually next week, and the judge

1611
01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:02,240
Speaker 1: told both lawyers on each side to be prepared to

1612
01:18:02,320 --> 01:18:06,160
Speaker 1: address the complaints about all the pre trial publicity. And

1613
01:18:06,200 --> 01:18:07,880
Speaker 1: we touched on this a little bit before that was

1614
01:18:07,920 --> 01:18:11,759
Speaker 1: the letter that Blake Lively's team sent to the judge

1615
01:18:11,800 --> 01:18:16,320
Speaker 1: directly saying, Hey, you know, Brian Friedman's playing out this

1616
01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:19,280
Speaker 1: lawsuit in the public by releasing.

1617
01:18:18,880 --> 01:18:21,559
Speaker 2: All this footage. Please disregard the fact that I went

1618
01:18:21,600 --> 01:18:25,360
Speaker 2: to the New York Times, right, and look at this

1619
01:18:25,520 --> 01:18:30,800
Speaker 2: attorney was responding to all these outlandish allegations I write against.

1620
01:18:30,880 --> 01:18:32,400
Speaker 1: And I'm sure it also has to do with the

1621
01:18:32,439 --> 01:18:35,120
Speaker 1: fact that he also did say, Hey, we're just gonna

1622
01:18:35,160 --> 01:18:36,920
Speaker 1: We're just going to make a website and we're just

1623
01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:39,160
Speaker 1: going to put everything on this website. We're going to

1624
01:18:39,240 --> 01:18:42,000
Speaker 1: put the raw footage on there, all the text, messages, everything.

1625
01:18:42,040 --> 01:18:43,840
Speaker 2: You should probably put it on Patreon. You can probably

1626
01:18:43,880 --> 01:18:48,479
Speaker 2: make a few bucks, or put it on YouTube. It'll

1627
01:18:48,560 --> 01:18:51,240
Speaker 2: be millions of viewers and then a bunch of comments.

1628
01:18:51,680 --> 01:18:55,000
Speaker 1: And then so the pre trial conferences next week where

1629
01:18:55,040 --> 01:18:57,280
Speaker 1: we will figure out or at least the judge will

1630
01:18:57,280 --> 01:18:59,080
Speaker 1: make some type of decision on how this is going

1631
01:18:59,080 --> 01:19:01,160
Speaker 1: to play out in the MEETA because both sides have

1632
01:19:01,320 --> 01:19:03,360
Speaker 1: been using publicity.

1633
01:19:03,320 --> 01:19:05,639
Speaker 2: Get their in California is in New York.

1634
01:19:06,320 --> 01:19:08,599
Speaker 1: So the trial date is scheduled for March ninth of

1635
01:19:08,600 --> 01:19:10,720
Speaker 1: twenty twenty six, which is basically.

1636
01:19:11,080 --> 01:19:13,560
Speaker 2: Two seconds that is googled it. I put Ryan Reynolds's

1637
01:19:14,120 --> 01:19:17,400
Speaker 2: Lively trial date March nine came up March ninth.

1638
01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:20,240
Speaker 1: Six, Okay, So anyway, that's when the trial date is.

1639
01:19:20,280 --> 01:19:23,120
Speaker 1: We'll see what happens until then clearly there will be

1640
01:19:23,240 --> 01:19:24,960
Speaker 1: a lot more things that come out. We'll see how

1641
01:19:24,960 --> 01:19:26,479
Speaker 1: this plays out in the media. We'll see what the

1642
01:19:26,560 --> 01:19:30,320
Speaker 1: judge says regarding whether they're allowed to continue to release

1643
01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:33,599
Speaker 1: raw footage and release all these text messages and voice

1644
01:19:33,640 --> 01:19:36,439
Speaker 1: memos and all these things, and.

1645
01:19:36,439 --> 01:19:39,120
Speaker 2: We will keep you informed on that, hopefully, hopefully get

1646
01:19:39,120 --> 01:19:43,599
Speaker 2: settled before the next Taylor Swift tour date. So very important, yes,