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Speaker 1: This is the OTP presented by Farm Bureau Health Plans.

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Speaker 1: They've been protecting Tennessee and since nineteen forty seven. Amy Wells,

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Speaker 1: Mike Keith. So glad to have you with us, and

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Speaker 1: First of all, Amy, let me ask you how you doing.

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Speaker 1: Are you well? Oh, Mike Keith, I am doing so well.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited that things are starting to get rolling in

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Speaker 1: the football world a little bit. I can only handle

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Speaker 1: on track and we have football news. Earlier today, the

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Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans announced staff moves. It was reported early this

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Speaker 1: confirmed that I don't think anyone associated with Titans was

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Speaker 1: You know, one of the things that's been so important

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Speaker 1: beneficial for Ryan Tannehill, for the receivers, just keeping the

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Speaker 1: So I think it's a really smart move. I'm really

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Speaker 1: surprise when Arthur Smith was promoted. Well, Mike, we've talked

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Speaker 1: We were excited two years ago for Arthur Smith to

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Speaker 1: It leads me believe that It's going to be a

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Speaker 1: these camps on the Baya. They've got these six foot five,

428
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,879
Speaker 1: six six kids. I said, no, what do you position?

429
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 1: You're playing on defense? Oh? I don't play defense. I'm

430
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 1: a wide receiver or tight end. And so it's becoming

431
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 1: the most difficult position to find in college and in

432
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:28,359
Speaker 1: pro football, more so than at quarterback. So the Titans

433
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 1: are picking at twenty two. Are there any edge rushers

434
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 1: that are worthy of that spot or is it just

435
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,680
Speaker 1: interior guys? It sounds like I think it's more the

436
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:43,879
Speaker 1: interior player now Russo. And here's the role of the dice.

437
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 1: Will one team pass on him and then another team

438
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:53,160
Speaker 1: say I'll maybe not go there too. Russo potentially could

439
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 1: be there at twenty two. Now, he's a six foot

440
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,639
Speaker 1: six and a half two hundred and sixty five pound

441
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 1: defensive end. He's not gonna stay two sixty five. He's

442
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 1: gonna be a much bigger guy in the NFL. But

443
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 1: if you're looking for him to help you right away

444
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,200
Speaker 1: your best go look somewhere else because he's going to

445
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,440
Speaker 1: be a bit of a developmental guy who you reminds

446
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,199
Speaker 1: me a lot of. Is a guy who Saints have

447
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 1: in Marcus Davenport reminds me a lot And guess what.

448
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 1: Marcus was a wide out in high school. So was

449
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 1: Gregory Russo. In fact, El Shoe was recruiting him as

450
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:33,400
Speaker 1: a tight end. So is that your sleeper pick? Maybe

451
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 1: the guy that you know could fall but will be

452
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 1: a productive guy at some point like you were saying, yeah,

453
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,920
Speaker 1: I think there you have a much better shot at

454
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 1: corner than you do at defensive end. But I think

455
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 1: if there's a defensive end that would slide a little bit,

456
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 1: and only because of his lack of playing time, it

457
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 1: would be Russo. You're basing in a one year. Now.

458
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 1: That year was really good, and he started the year

459
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 1: out as a backup, and then you know after two

460
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,400
Speaker 1: games that were saying, hey, you can rush your quarterback. Kid,

461
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,360
Speaker 1: get in there and knock down the quarterback. And so, yeah,

462
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 1: I think Russo is a possibility at twenty two, But

463
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 1: I think more so at the cornerback position, where I

464
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 1: think you'll see the run on quarterbacks. You'll see a

465
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 1: little bit of a run at wide receiver and offensive tackles,

466
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 1: which could push Russo to twenty two. But the corner

467
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 1: position is thicker, and I think there's a couple guys

468
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 1: there that could well be in the sights. All right,

469
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna jump to corner. I was gonna talk wide receivers,

470
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 1: but I'll give that to Amy in a moment. First

471
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,919
Speaker 1: of all, is it a good corner draft depth wise

472
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 1: and at second in terms of first round corners, Mike,

473
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 1: to tell you, who do you like? That's probably going

474
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 1: to be five corners, at least five going around one

475
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,160
Speaker 1: at least five. Now, you're not gonna get your shot

476
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:07,359
Speaker 1: at Patrick Certain Okay, you're not gonna get your shot

477
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:11,880
Speaker 1: at Caleb Fairley from Virginia Tech. Two guys to keep

478
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 1: in mind for the Titans. One is j C. Horn

479
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:19,159
Speaker 1: from South Carolina, the son of Joe Horn, who was

480
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 1: a terrific receiver with the Saints. Big, tall, covered, tight

481
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 1: corner and he is physical, which fits the Titans scheme.

482
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:33,920
Speaker 1: Very aggressive. Now he's grabby and you can get away

483
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 1: with that in the you know in college football and

484
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 1: then in the NFL they a little bit not as lenient.

485
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 1: But I think he would be a great fit player

486
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 1: for the Titans because of his physicality, his ability to

487
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 1: play out on the edge. I really believe Christian Fulton

488
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 1: could play both on the edge and also in the

489
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 1: nickel because we saw Christian do a lot of that

490
00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 1: at LSU. The other player is Tyson and Campbell from Georgia.

491
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 1: A lot of people are not talking about him, but

492
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 1: when he is gonna work out, he's gonna blow the

493
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 1: socks off of scouts. He is maybe the best athlete

494
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 1: of all the cover corners as a runner, as a

495
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 1: guy that can get up and make a play on

496
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 1: the football. He has been a little bit hit and

497
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 1: missed because he takes a lot of chances. He's a

498
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 1: bit of a gambler at that cornerback position. But it's funny.

499
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 1: Tyson and Patrick certain both went to American Heritage High

500
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 1: School and was coached by the original Patrick Certaine, who

501
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 1: was a terrific NFL player with both the Miami Dolphins

502
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs. So Campbell and Horn are the two

503
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 1: guys to watch because of their matchup skills, their ability

504
00:29:56,600 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 1: to play man coverage and physical play and being aggressive

505
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 1: but speedwise. Everybody knows about Horn, but it's Campbell the

506
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 1: guy that I think a lot of scouts will fall

507
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 1: in love with because of his potential and athletic skills.

508
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 1: Does an NFL team have to take a corner in

509
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 1: the first round in order to get a player who

510
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 1: could start in twenty twenty one? Potentially you better do

511
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 1: it early. Okay, it's a good question. I think if

512
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 1: you don't have a top fifty pick, it's difficult because

513
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 1: today's world. I got told as by a defensive coordinate

514
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 1: the NFL recently. No, I don't want two corners. I

515
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 1: want four. Because you're playing nickel seventy five percent of

516
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 1: the time in the NFL, which your three quarters of

517
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 1: a starter, you're in the dime coverage. I think it

518
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 1: equals out to like sixty seven percent. So okay, I

519
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 1: can't just have two corners that can play. I need

520
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 1: four corners because the game has changing. I need to

521
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 1: be able to match up, and so it's multiple corners

522
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 1: that you need to get, and you better get one

523
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 1: early because everybody's looking for them. It's the same situation

524
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 1: as a pass rusher. Now I can find them more

525
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 1: at corner than I can at defensive end, but they

526
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 1: come off the board very quickly. Return to wide receivers,

527
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 1: and I'll take the first part of this. Titan's probably

528
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 1: going to be in the market for a wide receiver

529
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 1: somewhere in this draft. Is it a good overall year

530
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 1: for receivers. It's a great year. It's not as good

531
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 1: as a year ago, which I thought was the best

532
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 1: wide receiver group I have ever done. Ever, this one's close,

533
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 1: and I think it'll stay that way because wide receiver

534
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 1: is now the new glamour position in college football and

535
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 1: into the pros, So you're gonna have number burst there.

536
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 1: I think you can get a receiver and a productive

537
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 1: one in the middle to later rounds and today. The

538
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 1: big difference from when I first started doing this is

539
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 1: because of seven on seven and because of more training

540
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 1: in high school and in college as a route runner,

541
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 1: You're getting a more refined product than you've ever gotten before.

542
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 1: But I think you can wait and thus that's a

543
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 1: special receiver there, like a Justin Jefferson a year ago

544
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 1: who really came in made a huge impact for Minnesota.

545
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 1: You can get a really good receiver in the middle

546
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 1: to later rounds of the draft. Because if I've got

547
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 1: a choice between picking a corner, an offensive tackle a

548
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 1: wide receiver, and I look at that chart, I said, man,

549
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 1: I get that receiver a little bit farther down, I'm

550
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 1: not sure I can get that corner of that offensive tackle.

551
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 1: So is there an AJ Brown in this draft that

552
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 1: you might be able to find on Day two or

553
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 1: Day three? I think in day two is the spot.

554
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 1: One of those players is actually Terroris Marshall from LSU,

555
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 1: who's a bigger version of AJ he's a guy that

556
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 1: really runs well after the catch, but he has got

557
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 1: some speed. Now he's had some injuries at LSU, but

558
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 1: we saw last year before he opted out, he was

559
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 1: a very impressive football player. Rondel Moore from Purdue, who

560
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 1: has also can help you in the return game, is

561
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 1: also a smaller version of AJ and that he's physical.

562
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 1: He can catch the football well in traffic and get

563
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 1: up the field. So there are people there, especially in

564
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 1: a second and third rounds that can help you. And

565
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 1: we saw late that if you lose a player to injury,

566
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 1: you better have a playmaker. You gotta have that to

567
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 1: help your running game out because you know everybody's playing

568
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 1: up on the line of scrimmage to stop Derrick Henry.

569
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 1: If I've got another playmaker at wide receiver are tied end,

570
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 1: I'm putting a lot of pressure on you, a tremendous

571
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 1: amount of pressure. So to the guys to watch far

572
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 1: as Day two picks, Terrace Marshall from LSUE, rondel Moore

573
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 1: from Producer No Mike, if they're a receiver that might

574
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 1: have the ability to be successful in the slot and

575
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 1: on the outside. Yeah, if you use the first round

576
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 1: pick on one Aimy could Darius Tony from Florida. I

577
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 1: visited LSU the week before they played Florida a year ago,

578
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,240
Speaker 1: and all Dave Randall was talking about, Man, we gotta

579
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 1: do something to slow down Tony, and we think that

580
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:54,279
Speaker 1: that could be a major issue this year. They were

581
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 1: more worried about pits, but Florida sort of save pits

582
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 1: for are the Alabama game, he didn't play, and so

583
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 1: Tony became the feature guy for them. He's a former

584
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 1: quarterback who can run out of the slot out wide,

585
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:17,280
Speaker 1: great on the jet sweeps, and can return puntson kicks.

586
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,399
Speaker 1: He would be a guy at twenty two if he's

587
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 1: still on the board, I would have a long thought

588
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 1: process on because I know what type of playmaker he

589
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 1: could be, and team him up with AJ. You got

590
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 1: something now? Now I want to go to offensive line.

591
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 1: I love the offensive line almost as much as I

592
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 1: love defense almost, and I want to maybe go outside

593
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 1: of that pick at number twenty two and kind of

594
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 1: expand our minds a little bit. Two years ago, the

595
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 1: Titans got a really quality player in Nate Davis. They

596
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 1: got him in round three. Can the Titans find a

597
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 1: Nate Davis type player in some of those mid to

598
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 1: late rounds like three, four or five. Yeah, that's a

599
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 1: good question. I think there's a lot of depth inside

600
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 1: along the offensive line this year, and really that stood

601
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 1: out at the Senior Bowl that it was the interior

602
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: lineman that we're winning the battles. Nobody was getting any pressure.

603
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 1: And so that's a spot in the middle rounds where

604
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 1: you're talking about third, fourth round where you can pick

605
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 1: up a player, and a lot of times it's a

606
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:32,280
Speaker 1: small college player. Meredis who played at Wisconsin Whitewater. Okay,

607
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 1: he looks like Babe Ruth, but that guy can play.

608
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 1: I mean, and what I was impressed with him. He

609
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 1: was a really good run blocker, but it was his

610
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 1: quick setup skills as a pass protector that really jumped

611
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 1: out at me that he knew what to do and

612
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 1: nobody was gonna beat him. You would love to get

613
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 1: a guy that can play couple different positions, that could

614
00:36:56,600 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 1: play both center and also guard, and this year there's

615
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 1: some depth interior line wise that's really good. Now, the

616
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 1: tackles we know they're not lasting long, they're not lasting

617
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 1: very long, but a guard in center, you've got some

618
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 1: depth at both those positions and you know, Alabama got

619
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 1: a guy from Florida State. Look to impact he made

620
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,760
Speaker 1: on that football team. He was a guard at Florida State.

621
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 1: He comes in and Landing becomes a great center. Creed

622
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:35,399
Speaker 1: Humphrey who in three years at Oklahoma has given up

623
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 1: zero sacks three years. Look how much Oklahoma throws the

624
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 1: football and has given up zero quarterback sacks. So there's

625
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 1: some players there in the interior. I would take a

626
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 1: really long look at in rounds three and four, and

627
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,439
Speaker 1: they're gonna be there if that's where the Titans look.

628
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 1: So where does Landon Dickerson play in the NFL? I

629
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 1: know he's been so product have you just talked about it?

630
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 1: But where in the world does he play at the

631
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 1: next level. I think Landon will start out at guard

632
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:11,359
Speaker 1: and in year two be a starting center. No, it's

633
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 1: difficult to be a starting center as a rookie, and

634
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 1: we don't know what training camp is gonna look like

635
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 1: in these mini camps and rookie camps. The Saints pick

636
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:27,840
Speaker 1: because he's our rooi is in Round one this year. Okay,

637
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 1: he had mostly played center at Michigan. Where does he

638
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 1: end up? He's playing right guard now this year? Watch

639
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 1: they're gonna move him the center, and I think the

640
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 1: same sort of thing will happen to Landon. He'll start

641
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 1: at guard and then year two transition him to the

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Speaker 1: center position. All the calls working with the quarterback, you're

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Speaker 1: the quarterback of the offensive line. That's a lot on

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Speaker 1: the plate for a young player as a rookie. One

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Speaker 1: guy did it this year, though, Lloyd Cushionberry, a farmer

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Speaker 1: LSU Tiger with the Denver Broncos, starting at center. But

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Speaker 1: very few guys can do it. So to answer your question,

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Speaker 1: I think Dickerson's going to start at right guard and

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Speaker 1: All right, So last question for you about Trey Smith.

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Speaker 1: And he's from Jackson, Tennessee. He obviously played in Knoxville

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Speaker 1: for the Volves. He's a two time Tessee Titans mister football.

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Speaker 1: He grew up a Titans fan, said he'd love to

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Speaker 1: play here. So we've got a lot of interest in

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Speaker 1: him overall, and certainly a lot of Titans fans would

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Speaker 1: love it if he became a Titan. But what I

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Speaker 1: want to know from you, Mike d is, does Trey

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Speaker 1: Smith have a chance to go in the first round

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Speaker 1: coming up this spring. It's got a chance, but it's

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Speaker 1: more probable he'll go in round two because most people

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Speaker 1: are looking at him as a left guard. Now. He

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Speaker 1: has played some tackle in college, but I think he's

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Speaker 1: better off inside. He would to me be one of

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Speaker 1: mammoth guy, terrific run blocker, and it's gotten much better

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Speaker 1: as a pass protector. His footwork, his hand extension, how

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Speaker 1: he kind of reels out a little bit and picked

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Speaker 1: ups that inside blitz. So I look at him as

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Speaker 1: a second round pick. He is gonna be in my

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Speaker 1: top fifty. The one thing that will come into question

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Speaker 1: health right for some teams, that situation with the lungs

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Speaker 1: is gonna come into mine. So I would have to

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Speaker 1: Is he good to go? And if I get that,

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Speaker 1: for a guard in round two, he won't have to

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Speaker 1: wait long. I mean, he's that good of a player.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if he's gonna last the way the

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Speaker 1: Titans picking round two, I think he's gonna go ahead

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Speaker 1: of that, but I think he'd be a great pickup

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Speaker 1: for because I think he could play tackle in a

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Speaker 1: pinch if you needed it. But he is really a

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Speaker 1: stella left guard. All right, Mike d I'm looking to

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