1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 2: Welcome everybody, Monday edition of Clay and Back. We are 4 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 2: stacked with news, with things that we want to dive 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 2: into with all of you from all across this great 6 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 2: land of ours. Thanks for being here. First up, Israel 7 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 2: is advancing in Gaza with ground forces. 8 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 3: Slowly. 9 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 2: It is not a massive movement of troops into Gaza yet, 10 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 2: but there are some tanks that have rolled in. Further, 11 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:35,199 Speaker 2: there are some clashes. We also have analysis now on 12 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:40,560 Speaker 2: or more thorough analysis coming out on what the intelligence 13 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 2: signs were that were missed in the run up to 14 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:49,200 Speaker 2: this attack. Plus some just awful protests slash riot stuff 15 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 2: over the weekend in Dagastan, which is a Muslim majority 16 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 2: republic of the former Soviet Union right next to Chechnya. 17 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 2: Basically they were chasing through an airport a mob trying 18 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 2: to find Jews. So the anti Semitism truly global, truly horrific, 19 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 2: and we are still very much staying on that story 20 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 2: and staying with our Jewish brothers and sisters in Israel 21 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 2: and all around the world and here at home. We'll 22 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 2: talk more about that later on in the program, we 23 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:25,839 Speaker 2: have some walk back on COVID tyranny started to occur, 24 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 2: and also new data on the shots I actually heard 25 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 2: I'm hearing now advertisements where they're just pushing this the 26 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 2: way they used to push the flu vaccine, which is, oh, 27 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 2: this is you know, if you have heart trouble or 28 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 2: you're over sixty five. So massive changes on that front. 29 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 3: Will discuss if you were a Friends watcher. 30 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 2: The TV show as one of the most widely watched 31 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 2: indicated TV shows I believe of all time. Matthew Perry 32 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 2: passed away over the weekend. We'll talk about that a 33 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 2: little bit later. It's a show that for a lot 34 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 2: of our younger audience, myself included, played a role in 35 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 2: our you know, in our young adult development or in 36 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 2: our early lives. But I want to start with some 37 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:10,639 Speaker 2: political news today because we are now getting deeper into 38 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 2: the thick of the primary, and also, as we know, 39 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:16,959 Speaker 2: the general election looms large and in some ways clay 40 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 2: because of Donald Trump's massive lead. It feels like we're 41 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 2: almost entering general election season, general election season more than 42 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 2: we are even a primary. Mike Pence is out. He 43 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 2: has officially suspended his campaign. Why don't we start here 44 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 2: with a Pence announcement. This was on Saturday. This is 45 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 2: cut one. He is telling his one percent of supporters 46 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 2: maybe time to join somebody else's team. 47 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 3: Here play one. 48 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:52,080 Speaker 4: Traveling across the country over the past six months, I 49 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 4: came here to say, it's become. 50 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:55,239 Speaker 5: Clear to me this is not my time. 51 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 4: So after much prayer and deliberation, I have decided to 52 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 4: suspend my campaign for president defective today. Now I'm leaving 53 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 4: this campaign, but let me promise you, I will never 54 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:09,239 Speaker 4: leave the fight for conservative values and I will never 55 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 4: stop fighting to elect principled Republican leaders to every office 56 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 4: in the land. 57 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 1: So help me God. 58 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:22,119 Speaker 2: Now, the real question is did the polls and Mike 59 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 2: Pence's campaign or did Klay Travis and Mike Penson's campaign. 60 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 6: Well, let me just start with this. I think Mike 61 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 6: Pence is a nice guy, a nice guy I has 62 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 6: said on this show for some time that I felt 63 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 6: like and we'll play the clip for those of you. 64 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: Who missed it. That was back in mid June. 65 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 6: I think what came out in our interview was there 66 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 6: is no logic for the Mike Pence campaign and kind 67 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 6: of breaking that down, Buck if you're going to be 68 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 6: of the opinion I'm gonna be and I'm speaking as 69 00:03:57,880 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 6: if I were Mike Pence. I think if they retro 70 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 6: respectively analyze his campaign, a lot of people would say 71 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 6: the same thing. If you are going to be the 72 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 6: candidate of I'll tell you the truth no matter what, 73 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 6: then you can't dodge questions because your brand is I'm 74 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 6: a truth teller. I'll make the hard decisions. I'll do 75 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 6: what's necessary, even if sometimes it's going to upset people. 76 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 6: I'll uphold the Constitution. And so do we want to 77 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 6: play that now? Maybe we'll go ahead and play it. 78 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 6: This was Pence on this show. If you missed it, it 79 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 6: got a little bit contentious. I don't dislike Mike pens 80 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:35,599 Speaker 6: but I do dislike when people come on this show 81 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 6: and they try to dodge questions that I think go 82 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 6: to the very essence of the decision they would have 83 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 6: to make if they were president of the United States. 84 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 6: Here's that conversation we had back in June, and frankly, 85 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 6: I think what this eliminated was that there was no 86 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 6: pathway for Pence in his campaign. 87 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 1: Would you pardon him from those federal charges? 88 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 7: Well, first off, these are serious charges, and as I said, 89 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 7: I can't defend what's been alleged, but the president does 90 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 7: deserve to make his defense. And I would say to 91 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:06,919 Speaker 7: each one of you, look, I've been a former governor, 92 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 7: I've actually granted pardons to people, and I take the 93 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 7: parton authority very seriously. It's an enormously important power of 94 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 7: someone in an executive position, and I just think it's 95 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 7: premature of any conversation about that right now, Guys, why 96 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 7: would you be hold on? 97 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 6: Let me just ask you that because I look, I 98 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 6: think as a matter of principle, I think, as a 99 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 6: matter of principle, if you believe, as both Buck and 100 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 6: I do, that Donald Trump is being prosecuted to a 101 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 6: large extent for political based reasons, something that has never 102 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 6: happened in the two hundred and forty plus year history 103 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:46,720 Speaker 6: of the United States, that we are setting an awful 104 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 6: precedent here, and I think it's important to look at 105 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 6: this even before the case has taken place. You've read 106 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 6: the indictment, you know what the allegations are. They are serious. 107 00:05:56,120 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 6: But to me, what is gained by allowing the Ronald 108 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 6: Trump to be put in prison in the event he 109 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 6: was convicted. Is we lose infinitely more by not just 110 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:10,039 Speaker 6: taking a principled stand and saying, as a matter of principle, 111 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 6: this shouldn't happen. 112 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 1: I'm not going to allow it. To me. 113 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 6: If you're the executive, you are the ultimate decider, with 114 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 6: all due respect, When you aren't telling us what your 115 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:21,840 Speaker 6: decision would be, I think you're dodging the question and 116 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 6: frankly not stepping up on the front of leadership, which 117 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 6: in the past you've been willing to do so to me, 118 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 6: not answering as a no. 119 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 7: Well, look, number one, I don't think you know what 120 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 7: the president's defense is, do you? I mean, what are 121 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 7: the facts? I mean, Look, we either believe in our 122 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 7: judicial process in this country or we don't. We either 123 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 7: stand by the rule of law we don't. I just 124 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 7: thought what I would tell you is I think as someone. 125 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 2: But what I'm hearing is you're fine with Donald Trump 126 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 2: being put in prison, sir, And that, to me, since 127 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 2: you were his vice president, feels pretty disrespectful. 128 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 7: I had a standard rule, don't talk about hypotheticals. Look, 129 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:05,359 Speaker 7: we don't know what the president's defense here is. I 130 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:07,840 Speaker 7: think he's entitled to make his defense entitled to have 131 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 7: his day in court. And uh, look, let's you know, 132 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 7: let's take it one step at a time. But I 133 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 7: would just tell you that I I but if. 134 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 6: You know that these are political charges and you do 135 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 6: this is not a This is not a difficult descision. 136 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 2: I think we've made. I think we've gotten. I think 137 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 2: we've gotten what we're going to get here. Sorry, just 138 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 2: to be clear, let's be the end. Throwing the twel 139 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 2: in the middle of the ring. It's he's not going 140 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 2: to address it. And that was back in uh that 141 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 2: was back on June fourteenth of earlier this year. You know, 142 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 2: Clay first of all, that anytime a politician does the oh, 143 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 2: I don't do hypotheticals. As I've said on this show, 144 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 2: your entire proposition here is hypothetical. 145 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: This is one. 146 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 2: Pential campaign is a hypothetical. This is what I will 147 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 2: do when I am president. It is all based on 148 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 2: the hypothetical. Now that's a nonsensical but but I think 149 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 2: also more to the point, even beyond the of what 150 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 2: you got right into there, which is, come on, man, 151 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 2: you were his vice president. You're really gonna let this guy. 152 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 2: You're gonna Donald Trump, You're gonna let a former president. 153 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 2: You're like your president that you served them go to prison. 154 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 2: The fact that he's not, like, look, I wouldn't let 155 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 2: him go to prison. Maybe I would commute like the 156 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 2: fact that he wouldn't take any stand and so, but 157 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 2: then it also leads into the why the why are 158 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 2: you running question? Because what he tried to do is, 159 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 2: on the one hand, say it was great, Trump Pence 160 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:32,199 Speaker 2: was great. Remember this, Yes, the Trump Pence policies, Trump 161 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 2: Pence this, Trump Pence that. But then on the other hand, 162 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 2: you're basically going along with the Trump is a criminal 163 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 2: and a danger to democracy. I think it went right 164 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 2: to the that was the central weakness of the campaign, 165 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 2: which is why so many people well, I mean I 166 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 2: think he never got above two or three percent. 167 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, you start to answer questions, it's gonna put more 168 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 6: pressure on everyone who's not pulling. Look, let me just 169 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 6: take a step back. I think there are three people 170 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 6: right now that should be running for president of the 171 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 6: United States, uh, Donald Trump, Rod DeSantis, Nicky Haley. I 172 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 6: think no one else to this point has shown that 173 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 6: there is any pathway that they could win, either Iowa, 174 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 6: New Hampshire, or South Carolina. 175 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:14,079 Speaker 2: Well, and this will and It goes also to the 176 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 2: the why question, which I said, when you when you 177 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 2: look at that with Mike Pence, the whole thing kind 178 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 2: of crumbled, right. You can't you can't say wasn't an 179 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 2: awesome Donald and I we were a dream team. I 180 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 2: think I do a little better, but maybe he should 181 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 2: go to prison and he's actually horrible like that. That's 182 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 2: not gonna fly. 183 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 3: You can't do that. It doesn't work. It didn't work. Obviously. 184 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 2: The campaign's over. And as you know, I said, Mike 185 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 2: Pen's a nice guy. I have no problem with Mike Pence, Viveke. 186 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 2: I like Vivike. He's super smart. I have a ton 187 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 2: of respect for Avic, but you know, in terms of 188 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 2: his ability. 189 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:44,559 Speaker 3: But the whole. 190 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 2: Campaign has been I want Donald Trump to mentor me like, 191 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 2: but I have no criticism of it. It's like, well, 192 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 2: then Trump should be president. Like that's for me. The 193 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 2: why has always been the Achilles heel there. It's not 194 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 2: a personal thing. It's just politically, let's have Trump be 195 00:09:57,679 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 2: president again. There's no really like the VEC instead of 196 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 2: trum makes no sense. If there's nothing, you're going to 197 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 2: say Trump did badly, right, So that's the same thing 198 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 2: with Tim Scott, who're going to have on later. You know, 199 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 2: I think it starts to get tough with some of 200 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 2: these candidates now where it's well, are they auditioning for president? 201 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:16,079 Speaker 2: Auditioning for vice president? And maybe you could say the 202 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 2: same thing about the vague, but you know, you want 203 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:20,479 Speaker 2: to stay in the game long enough to show everybody 204 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 2: who the number two is, so to speak, right, who 205 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 2: the next person on deck should be. 206 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 6: And it also becomes and I give credit to Pins 207 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 6: for the way that he exited, the way that you exit. 208 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 6: If you're trying to preserve a future campaign to the 209 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 6: extent that you believe you have a national future. I 210 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 6: don't think you want to exit Buck. Maybe some of 211 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 6: these guys do by getting two or three percent in Iowa, 212 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 6: just getting totally smoked, having all the voters, all the 213 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 6: work that you've done, reflect that virtually no one is 214 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 6: willing to actually support you. 215 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: Right, So at what point? 216 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 6: This is why I've been saying, Look, we got an 217 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 6: early Thanksgiving November twenty third, I believe tomorrow is Halloween, 218 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 6: so we're talking about basically three weeks until Thanksgiving. It's 219 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 6: hard to get people's attention once it gets to Thanksgiving. 220 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 6: Because everybody's busy, and everybody's out shopping, everybody's traveling, the 221 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 6: kids are getting out for school and everything else. And 222 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 6: so we're going to get to Christmas boom season fast buck. 223 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 6: And then January fifteenth is the Iowa caucus. So to me, 224 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 6: there are three people right now that should be running 225 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 6: for president. I think there was an Iowa campaign poll 226 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 6: that came out today that basically had Trump with a 227 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 6: big lead, and then Nicki Haley and Ron DeSantis tied 228 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 6: for second. 229 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 2: I'd say this, I mean Nicky Haley for a lot 230 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 2: of and look, I don't think we have a big 231 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 2: Nicki Haley contingent in this audience. That's just the sense 232 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 2: I get from our calls and emails and the interactions 233 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 2: that we all have online. You know, maybe it's like 234 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 2: I think it's probably right along with what the poll is, 235 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:52,439 Speaker 2: we basically something like that. 236 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 1: Probably that's right. 237 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, And we basically speak to the base every day 238 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 2: here in the House that Rush built. 239 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 3: So this audience very much reflects the numbers. 240 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:01,679 Speaker 7: You know. 241 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 2: Then again that's why you probably have about you know, 242 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 2: twenty to twenty percent plus DeSantis supporters, right, I mean, 243 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:08,679 Speaker 2: this is you know, we we have some sense of 244 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 2: who's listening and what the numbers are for Nicky Haley. 245 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 2: You know, her biggest her, her biggest Trump card, if 246 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 2: you will pardon the phrasing, is that she does very 247 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 2: well and all the polling into general in the battleground states, 248 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 2: even though she doesn't do very well in the primary, overall, 249 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 2: she does very well in those battleground state polls, and 250 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 2: that seems pretty consistent. But I do think she would 251 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 2: take a VP role under Trump. I do think she 252 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:35,680 Speaker 2: would accept that position knowing that it's a launch pad 253 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 2: for her going forward. Ron de Santis will not take 254 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:40,079 Speaker 2: a VP role. 255 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 3: He will stay as. 256 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 2: Governor and he will run again in the future. Right, 257 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:44,559 Speaker 2: So there's a yeah, there's some differences that we see. 258 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 2: Tim Scott will talk to Senator Scott, who again somebody 259 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 2: that we you know, in general here like people that 260 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 2: are on the team, people are on team GOP or 261 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:56,559 Speaker 2: Team Conservative. You know, we don't we don't want to 262 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 2: tear down anybody who's on the team. But Tim Scott 263 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 2: is just everyone likes Tim Scott, Everyone thinks he's a 264 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 2: good guy. Ever and respects Tim Scott. That's just that's 265 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 2: just a trueism. That's true across the board. Is he 266 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 2: really running for president or is he running for vice president? 267 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 2: You know, running for vice president. I mean, there's nothing 268 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:13,079 Speaker 2: wrong with that, right, I mean, that's a pretty big 269 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 2: deal when you have a one term president. Who's the 270 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 2: likeliest candidate or the likeliest option for the Republicans. Yeah, 271 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 2: and we'll talk with Tim Scott about this. I mean, 272 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 2: Buck he was almost running two primaries, the first primary. 273 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 2: Since he and Nicky Haley are both from the small 274 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 2: state relatively speaking of South Carolina, is which of those 275 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 2: Palmetto state veterans is going to emerge as the top contender? 276 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 2: And it seems, again we're two months out from Iowa, 277 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 2: but based on all the polling, it seems Nicky Haley 278 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 2: has won that battle to be the South Carolinian who 279 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:46,960 Speaker 2: is going to advance. Now, I'm sure Tim Scott, I'm 280 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 2: sure they're looking at polling and I know this is 281 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 2: we'll talk about this when we come back. What Nicky 282 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 2: Haley's strategy is, what Ron DeSantis' strategy is. But I 283 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:57,119 Speaker 2: think it's closing time for a lot of these campaigns 284 00:13:57,120 --> 00:14:00,559 Speaker 2: where you have to recognize that May you're gonna have 285 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 2: to finish the whiskey or beer to use a fing 286 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 2: and one thing, one thing with Trump. One thing with 287 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 2: Trump you have to remember is that staying in it 288 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 2: too long. It's like the eye of Sourn. Like you 289 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 2: don't want the eye of Sourn to focus on you 290 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 2: for very long, right, Like you know you people's political 291 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 2: careers can be damaged by going up against Trump too long. 292 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 2: So it's not cost free. I think you know, if 293 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 2: you're running against Mitt Romney as the front runner, which 294 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 2: I know every it's like, that's crazy. He wasn't a 295 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 2: candidate back in twenty twelve. Right, if you're running against 296 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 2: mid Romney, you stay in until the end because you 297 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 2: know MIT's not gonna With Trump, there can be there 298 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 2: can be downside. 299 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 3: We'll get into some of this. 300 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 2: I want to hear some of your thoughts on all 301 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 2: this too, you know, if you have any thoughts on Pence. 302 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 3: Was is it really all Clay's fault? 303 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 2: Was Pen's twenty twenty Was Pence twenty twenty four a 304 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 2: rocket ship that Clay dismantled that he's sabotaged. 305 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 6: Remember he said he was too busy to come on 306 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 6: the show. We did try to offer him another opportunity. 307 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just saying he was ready to go. He 308 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 2: had the faced car on the track and somebody came 309 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 2: along and just took the air out of those tires, Clay. 310 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 2: I don't know who it was. We'll see there might 311 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 2: be video camera footage. Look, you've worked hard to build 312 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 2: your retirement savings. You deserve an investment that delivers consistent 313 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 2: returns without compromising your financial security. Phoenix Capitol Group wants 314 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 2: to help fuel your growth. 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What about ten 334 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 6: weeks out? I guess it is from official voting starting 335 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 6: in the Republican primary January fifteenth in Iowa with the caucuses. 336 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 6: And if you are Nicki Haley and you're Ron DeSantis, 337 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 6: I think you look around and you say, okay, there 338 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 6: is a path with which we can become the viable 339 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 6: alternative to Trump. Now the question for you, Buck, and 340 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 6: we'll talk about this because it's a relatively short segment. 341 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 6: We come back and for everybody out there as well 342 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 6: to contemplate me as well. 343 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 1: Is does it matter? 344 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 6: In twenty sixteen, the argument was, well, once we get 345 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 6: Trump versus one other contender, that other contender will rise. 346 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 1: Does it matter at this point? 347 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 6: Or is Trump so strong that even if you got 348 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:04,679 Speaker 6: on DeSantis versus Trump or Nicky Haley versus Trump, is 349 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 6: there a pathway in a one v one for Trump 350 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 6: to lose, or as everybody drops out, is Trump gaining 351 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:14,919 Speaker 6: support as well and instead of everybody going to arrival. 352 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 2: I would I would really want to look at the data. 353 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 2: My gut reaction. I'm not pretending like this is based 354 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 2: in a statistical analysis. My gut reaction is that Trump 355 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 2: has and will continue to pick up more of the 356 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 2: what's out there support. 357 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 3: Than was anticipated. 358 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 2: That's my gut reaction, that he has a momentum that 359 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:37,919 Speaker 2: exceeds what people expected. 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Already very important. 389 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 2: It's call though, just looking at some of the most 390 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 2: and polling here to put some numbers to it all. 391 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:04,880 Speaker 2: First of all, in Iowa, which is coming up fast. 392 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 2: You have According to the NBC News Des Moines Register poll, 393 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 2: Trump at forty three, DeSantis sixteen, Haley sixteen, Scott seventeen. 394 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:21,160 Speaker 2: Now I think Iowa. I'm sorry, I said seventy seven. Yes, 395 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 2: Scott's seven, Ramaswami four, Pence wampomp, he's out. 396 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:28,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you. 397 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 2: Get to uh, Christie actually at four, and then a 398 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 2: couple of others and the zeros and the ones. Okay, 399 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:37,439 Speaker 2: so it's Trump, DeSantis, Haley, Scott's seven, though you know, 400 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:40,400 Speaker 2: could could depending on how long he stays in because 401 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 2: you can see where that number would go. And then overall, 402 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Pennsylvania Republican presidential primary, Trump at fifty five, 403 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 2: DeSantis fourteen, Haley nine. So it is a when I 404 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 2: say it's a three way race, it's one guy way 405 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:58,239 Speaker 2: way out ahead, and then two others that are at 406 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 2: least in the double digits territory. So we shall see. 407 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:05,159 Speaker 2: Now trumpet fifty five means forty five or not with 408 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 2: Trump in Pennsylvania, for example, So we'll see how that 409 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:11,920 Speaker 2: number plays out. I want to get more into this 410 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:16,160 Speaker 2: play and more into the Republican side of it, certainly, 411 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 2: in the show today, and we're gonna be talking about 412 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 2: it a lot. I also wanted to just take a 413 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:21,919 Speaker 2: look at what's going on on the Democrat side for 414 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:25,919 Speaker 2: a second here. So Kamala Harris is out there and 415 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 2: you're gonna see more of her because she is gonna 416 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 2: be Biden's VP. As I've said all along, I'm almost 417 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 2: shocked myself, even though I knew this was going to happen, 418 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 2: that it's happening, you know what I mean, Like, I've 419 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 2: been saying this all along, and now I'm like, I 420 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:40,479 Speaker 2: can't believe they're doing this, even though I knew they 421 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 2: were going to do this. But she was asked about 422 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 2: low polling, and this is one of the best Kamala 423 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:51,680 Speaker 2: answers we've heard in a while in terms of wow, Wow, 424 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 2: this is why Kamala Harris has the numbers that she does. 425 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 2: Play seven Here she's asked about the low polling. This 426 00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:00,919 Speaker 2: is her response. A recent CBS poll found that at 427 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 2: the beginning of President Biden's term, seventy percent of young 428 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 2: people people under thirty. 429 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:08,400 Speaker 1: Sitting was doing a good job. 430 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 3: Now it's less. 431 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: Than fifty percent. Why is that? What's going on? 432 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:17,120 Speaker 5: If you pull how young people feel about the climate 433 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 5: and the warming of our planet. It pulls as one 434 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 5: of their top concerns when we talk about what we 435 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 5: are doing with student loan debt, pulls very high. The 436 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 5: challenge that we have as an administration. We've got to 437 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 5: let people know who brung it to them. That's our challenge. 438 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 5: But it is not that the work we are doing 439 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 5: is not very very popular with a lot of people. 440 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 2: Click and I if your marketing plan or your you know, 441 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 2: your sales pitch is We're super awesome, people just don't 442 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 2: know it. Chances are you're probably not actually super awesome. 443 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 7: Yeah. 444 00:21:56,560 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 6: And also that marketing pitch works when there isn't real 445 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 6: name recognition. It doesn't work when everybody knows you. So 446 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 6: if you have a new product and you're like, man, 447 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 6: I think this new product is great, We've just got 448 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 6: to get the public aware of our new product. And 449 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 6: if they know about it, they'll buy it, they'll consume it. 450 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 6: That's the entire basis of marketing and business and everything else. 451 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,679 Speaker 6: The problem that Kamala has is and this is the 452 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,239 Speaker 6: problem that Biden has and why I think Democrats are 453 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 6: getting increasingly nervous about his campaign. In general, It isn't 454 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:33,439 Speaker 6: that people don't know Joe Biden. It's that they know 455 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 6: him really well and have decided he isn't able to 456 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,679 Speaker 6: do the job either now or in the years ahead. 457 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 2: So what it's interesting You've been saying this, and I've 458 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 2: been thinking about this, and I agree that the thing 459 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 2: with Biden is his trajectory, both in terms of the 460 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:58,639 Speaker 2: physical cognitive stuff. But I think also enthusiasm is really 461 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 2: only down fighting a defensive action on those fronts. They're 462 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 2: just thinking, and they're just thinking that the way they 463 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 2: can win is to just go with all out, you know, 464 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 2: blitzkrieg offense against Trump, with everything they've got, right, meaning 465 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,159 Speaker 2: that that it's like Biden is going to be in 466 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 2: a little bit in this dissent mode, but they think 467 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 2: they can take the Trump train and run it right 468 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 2: off the tracks and then Biden will be the last 469 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 2: man standing. 470 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 1: And I don't buy that thesis. Look what is what? 471 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 6: There are two things that I think deserve a great 472 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:38,400 Speaker 6: deal of attention that aren't getting very much. One, when 473 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 6: Biden won in twenty twenty, when he hid in his basement, 474 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 6: he ran as the anti Trump. His favorability numbers that 475 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:52,639 Speaker 6: avuncular Grandpa Joe from Scranton that they sold were actually 476 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 6: way better than Trump. That is, Biden personally was way 477 00:23:57,880 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 6: more liked than Trump was. 478 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,919 Speaker 2: That was just a project of the media, right, He 479 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:06,920 Speaker 2: was a construct and the construct was friendly Joe who 480 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 2: grins and rides the chew chew to GC from Delaware. 481 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 1: That's right. 482 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 6: And now three years plus later, people have recognized what 483 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 6: Joe Biden really is, and so his favorability numbers are low. 484 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,119 Speaker 6: I saw that they believe it or not, Buck, I 485 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 6: watched Saturday Night Live the whole thing, which I don't 486 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 6: remember the last time I die is it. 487 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:30,159 Speaker 2: Because my man Nate Bergatzi was on. Nate is a 488 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:33,239 Speaker 2: personal friend of mine. Good's actually I don't I've never 489 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 2: met him. I'm just a fan. I'm actually a fan. 490 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 2: I think he's I think I told you to watch. 491 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,400 Speaker 2: We're the exact same age, both from Nashville. I've known 492 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 2: him for a decade plus as his comedy career has 493 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 2: been coming up. So he guest hosted SNL and there 494 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 2: was a good line, uh like in Weekend Update. So 495 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 2: I watched the whole thing because I was like, I 496 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 2: want to see Nate did great. By the way, there's 497 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 2: some funny skits. He was, he was good. But there 498 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:57,879 Speaker 2: was a poll that they, you know, they their weekend update, 499 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 2: they said Biden and Trump are polled, and I'm paraphrasing, 500 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:06,439 Speaker 2: sixteen percent of people love Biden, sixteen percent of people 501 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:10,400 Speaker 2: love Trump. The remaining pole members all said kill me now, 502 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 2: and you know it's it's kind of a funny toss off. 503 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 6: But my point on it is buck people don't like 504 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 6: Biden now and he won in twenty twenty. 505 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 3: But they also don't like Trump, right, this is the thing. 506 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 6: But now but Trump has got him down in the 507 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 6: mud with him now. Right, people don't like Trump, but 508 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 6: they think he's competent. People don't like Biden, and they 509 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 6: think he's in common. 510 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,360 Speaker 2: To because when we say when we say people, we're 511 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:39,880 Speaker 2: talking about general nationwide favorability. Obviously, the Republican base likes Trump, 512 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 2: which is why he's so far ahead. 513 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 6: But if you like in terms of the political yeah, 514 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 6: the political breakdown. Second part of this that I think 515 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 6: is why Biden is fighting uphill. 516 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 2: So one people know him and now don't like him, 517 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 2: and he won a lot of voters because people liked 518 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 2: him even though they didn't really know him. 519 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 6: Okay, that's that's the problem. Second part here, Buck, and 520 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,400 Speaker 6: I think this is just becoming more and more cleared 521 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 6: every day. We we have pointed out that John Fetterman 522 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:11,159 Speaker 6: is not able to be a Senator. To Fetterman's credit, 523 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,680 Speaker 6: as bad as he is, his health does. 524 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 1: Seem to be getting better. 525 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,200 Speaker 6: Yes, as a fifty three year old man who had 526 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 6: a stroke, you can look at it and say he 527 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 6: is young enough that he can recover from a serious 528 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 6: health mallage. 529 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:29,880 Speaker 3: And we hope he does have a full recovery. 530 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:35,680 Speaker 6: Biden's issues right now are never getting better, and in fact, 531 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 6: every day, every week, and every month, he gets worse. 532 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 6: So as bad as he is right now in October, 533 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 6: basically Halloween, the year before the election, Buck, he's going 534 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 6: to be so much worse next year. And that ties 535 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,719 Speaker 6: in with Kamala, who is so unpopular. 536 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 2: Well, let's get back, let's let's get back to this here. 537 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:58,400 Speaker 2: Because Kamala was asked a question, you know, given Trump's 538 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 2: numbers and the and the year surrection in January sixth 539 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 2: and the indictment said everything else, why aren't you so 540 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 2: far ahead? I want everyone to hear Kamala's answer, why 541 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:11,160 Speaker 2: are you if Trump is so horrible vice President Harris? 542 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 2: Why is why are Biden Harris basically dead even with 543 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 2: him at this point? And he's not even officially the 544 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 2: nominee folks, right, So it's not even like he has 545 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 2: that stamp of approval of yeah, or that consolidation of 546 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 2: opinion of he is the Republican nominee. I mean, he's 547 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,919 Speaker 2: pretty close, but we'll see. Kamala's answer, Klay, can we 548 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 2: do a week come back? Let's do Kamala's answer. 549 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 1: To go back. 550 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 2: I think people need to hear it. The gun ownership 551 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 2: comes with responsibility first and foremost. Safety always first and foremost, 552 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 2: and right behind that is practice so that you know 553 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 2: how to operate your firearm with efficiency. 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Welcome back, in Clay Travis buck 583 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 6: Sexton Show, appreciate all of you hanging out with us. 584 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 6: Monday edition of the program. It is Halloween Eve. We 585 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 6: may have a little bit of fun with that, certainly 586 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 6: today and tomorrow. Even though Buck is I don't even 587 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 6: know what you would call someone who is anti Halloween. 588 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 6: Grinch obviously would be for for Christmas. 589 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 1: What would an anti Halloween person be called? I don't 590 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 1: know if there's a term spooky grinch, Yeah, spooky GIRs. 591 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 1: I don't know. 592 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 8: We're talking about twenty twenty twenty four. How can we 593 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 8: just tell everybody that you both my wife and Clay. 594 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 8: My wife asked me Carrius, She goes, you know, should 595 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 8: we have candy for trigger treaters yesterday? 596 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 6: Because you used to live in like a high rise, 597 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 6: I don't imagine you would get like Halloween trigger treater. 598 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 2: But now now you know. And I was just kind 599 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 2: of grouchy yesterday. We don't need to know. And Clay's like, 600 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 2: today you need. 601 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 1: To get some. You know, you got kids live in 602 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 1: you neighborhood. 603 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 2: They're going to come trigger treat and sure enough, Carrie's 604 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 2: already on the way a Costco to get you know, 605 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 2: so Clay and Carrie see it the same way, and 606 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 2: I guess I am going to give out candy. 607 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 3: I'm not going to be that guy. 608 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 6: Have you ever lived in a place where people trigger 609 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 6: treat before? Oh yeah, in Manhattan, people they have sign 610 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 6: ups and buildings. Oh you you end up with bags 611 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 6: and bags of candy. Oh people, I don't know, I've 612 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 6: never so like the Horizon Manhattan, people will walk I 613 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 6: mean that's kind. 614 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 2: Of Oh yeah, you go, you walk in the lobby. 615 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 2: It's usually only people who live in the building. But 616 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 2: for example, my old building had like six hundred units 617 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 2: in it or five hundred units. It's something crazy. So 618 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 2: the kids go to the lobby with their parents and 619 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 2: there's a sign up sheet of all the and that 620 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 2: way you only go to apartments that like people are 621 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 2: ready for you. And some people really go all out, 622 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 2: especially if they have kids. They'll have you know, stuff 623 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 2: on the door, and they'll even like sort of open 624 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 2: up and they'll be you know, spooky music and stuff 625 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 2: like that. But that way you avoid the grinches like me. 626 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 2: Although apparently this year I'm not going to be a grinch. 627 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 2: I'm going to be giving candy out. 628 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 6: We do need a name for what someone who is 629 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 6: anti Halloween would be. I've never really thought about it 630 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 6: before because, frankly, I've never been around anyone who ate. 631 00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 2: My mom loves Halloween too. There's a lot of hollow 632 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 2: I'm like, surrounded by Halloween fans. 633 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 3: I don't know what's going on here. 634 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 6: I don't know what Laura has spent on Halloween decorations 635 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 6: and parties and whatnot at our house. All right, So, 636 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 6: by the way, right before we play this, Kamala, do 637 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 6: you agree with me that if it were the final 638 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 6: three of let's say it's Nicki Haley, it's Ron DeSantis, 639 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 6: and Trump, that most DeSantis supporters if we're on DeSantis tomorrow, 640 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 6: said I'm out, I think most DeSantis. 641 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 1: Supporters would go towards Trump. 642 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 6: If Nicky Haley said I'm out, I think most Haley 643 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 6: supporters would go to DeSantis. Do you buy that thesis? 644 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 6: I think I think so. Yes, I think that would 645 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 6: be accurate. I'm not one hundred percent sure on that, 646 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 6: but that's my cognition. 647 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 2: If I kind of well, you know what, can we 648 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 2: put it out to some of our Nicky Haley We 649 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 2: do have some Nicky Haley, you know, super supporters in 650 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 2: this audience. Ye, I'm wondering, you know, call us, let 651 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 2: who's your second choice? If it can't be nick If 652 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 2: you're a Nicky Haley person, who's your number two? 653 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 3: I want to hear? 654 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 6: Or if you're a DeSantis person, like if if you 655 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 6: had to go to your second choice, who is your 656 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 6: second choice? I'd be actually curious on that. Okay, here's 657 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 6: Amala being asked about why they're basically tied right now 658 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 6: with Donald Trump, given that Trump's facing felony indictments in 659 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 6: four different jurisdictions. 660 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 4: Listen, the Biden Harris ticket is running neck and neck 661 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 4: with Donald Trump. 662 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 3: Why are you not thirty points ahead? 663 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 5: Well, I'm not a political pundit, so I'm not going 664 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 5: to speak to that. But what I will say is this, 665 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 5: when the American people are able to take a close 666 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 5: look at election time on their options, I think the 667 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 5: choice is going to be clear. Bill, We're going to win. 668 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 5: Let me just tell you that we're going to win. 669 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 2: Okay, she manages to you. You know, so you never 670 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 2: work for the federal government. I'm trying to think of 671 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 2: what the most bureaucratic thing you've ever worked for. You know, 672 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 2: I work for the fed. I work for the CIA, 673 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 2: the federal government, and the NYPD, which is the largest 674 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 2: police department in America, right and as part of those 675 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 2: government you would sometimes have to go to these HR seminars. 676 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 2: It was just mannedy, you know, and and there was 677 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 2: something so both boring and soul crushing about the Kamala 678 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 2: manages to always sound like she is running the worst 679 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 2: HR seminar you've ever heard in your life. That's that's 680 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 2: just what it reminds me of. 681 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 6: I am thankful, as you mentioned that, I have only 682 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 6: ever worked at for profit places my entire employment career, 683 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 6: from the very first job I had at Media Play, 684 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 6: which people may or may not remember, in the book 685 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 6: Department of Media Play. The idea was they sold CDs, 686 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 6: books like everything. It was a huge, like big box 687 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 6: store too. Obviously, now what I do, I've never worked 688 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 6: for anything other than a for profit corporation, and I 689 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 6: think a practice law obviously I would I would be miserable. 690 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 6: I would be miserable at one of those bureaucracies I wrote. 691 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 2: You know, the federal side was actually less bureaucratic than 692 00:33:56,480 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 2: the NYP. I mean the NYPD. My experience of bureaucracy 693 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 2: and there's a lot there's a lot of great people, 694 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 2: you know, great officers and detectives and sergeants who work there, 695 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 2: but the bureaucracy around it is is crushing. I mean, 696 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:10,360 Speaker 2: it's just it's a very very it's been around for 697 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 2: hundreds of years. It's a very old department. But something 698 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 2: about the way Kamala Harris, you get the sense that 699 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 2: she's somebody who's spent her adult life giving lectures to 700 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 2: people who don't want to hear what she has to 701 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 2: say but have no choice. And also that's what it 702 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 2: sounds like whenever Kamala's doing her Kamala stuff. 703 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 6: She's also very good at pulling the levers of bureaucratic power, right, Yeah, 704 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,239 Speaker 6: I mean that's basically her entire career. Now, she got 705 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 6: a bit of a fast start because she was sleeping 706 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,839 Speaker 6: with a married, married mayor of San Francisco. 707 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,280 Speaker 1: Which evidently nobody just ever talks about. 708 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 6: But I do think as we're talking about a twenty 709 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 6: twenty four campaign and we contemplate that Kamala Harris is 710 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 6: a heartbeat away from the presidency of a man who 711 00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 6: will be older and probably in worse. 712 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,320 Speaker 1: Health at his age. 713 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 6: You know, I know, we had FDR with with everything 714 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:06,400 Speaker 6: that they hid there, and we had what was it, 715 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 6: Woodrow Wilson's Woodrow Wilson's wife basically ran the presidency and 716 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 6: after he had a stroke, and they were able to 717 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:17,359 Speaker 6: hide health related conditions, to be fair, much more so 718 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,520 Speaker 6: over the past, you know, one hundred, two hundred years 719 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 6: of the presidency. But he's the oldest ever and so 720 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 6: it's not crazy if you are if you were running, 721 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 6: if you were signing up for life insurance, you'd be 722 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 6: a little bit nervous if you had millions of dollars 723 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,800 Speaker 6: outstanding on Joe Biden over the next five or six years. 724 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 2: Well, this is what I've thought all along here is 725 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:43,399 Speaker 2: that the Democrats, the unspoken, the unspoken reality that they're 726 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:48,799 Speaker 2: all aware of is if it's it's Biden's campaign for 727 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 2: a Kamala presidency, Yeah, there is absolutely no way he 728 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 2: finishes out his second term because they're going to want 729 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,360 Speaker 2: the first black female vice president rather not vice president, 730 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,400 Speaker 2: to be an incumbent and to have the time in 731 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:07,239 Speaker 2: office to take on all those advantages. There's no way 732 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 2: he finishes a second term. I mean he'll step down voluntarily. 733 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,719 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's interesting to think about now, Obviously he made 734 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:14,840 Speaker 6: his selection, and he picked her because she's a black woman. 735 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,480 Speaker 6: Is there anybody that he could have picked now as 736 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 6: we look towards twenty twenty four that people would say, well, 737 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:22,880 Speaker 6: you know, I'm not really happy with Biden, but I 738 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,239 Speaker 6: at least feel like he's got a competent VP. Or 739 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 6: because he automatically limited himself to identity politics at Universe, 740 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:31,360 Speaker 6: was this going to happen no matter who he picked. 741 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:33,400 Speaker 3: I think that's where this is. 742 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 2: I don't think that there's anyone who would have been 743 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,319 Speaker 2: a savior for the Democrats as a VP. But I 744 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,880 Speaker 2: also think that they don't think they need a savior Clay. 745 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:44,279 Speaker 2: I think they believe they can just derail the Trump train, 746 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 2: and so the Biden choo choo doesn't even matter.