WEBVTT - Bobby Wagner Sets the Tempo + Primetime TNF Preview vs. Eagles | The Player’s Club | Washington Commanders | NFL 0:00:05.840 --> 0:00:08.960 Welcome to another edition of The Players Club. Man, we 0:00:09.039 --> 0:00:12.880 got a full show for y'all fellas. Yeah, man, we're 0:00:12.880 --> 0:00:14.040 gonna have our. 0:00:13.960 --> 0:00:14.920 Mid season review. 0:00:15.120 --> 0:00:19.520 Yes, we gotta preview the game against the Philadelphia Egles. 0:00:19.520 --> 0:00:23.560 Don't look at our memories against the Philadelphia Egles. We're 0:00:23.560 --> 0:00:25.480 gonna give out the doves of the first half of 0:00:25.520 --> 0:00:28.800 the season. And we got Bobby Wagner by what you 0:00:28.840 --> 0:00:31.880 call it, Bobby yellow jacket, Bobby yellow, Bobby yellow jacket, 0:00:31.880 --> 0:00:34.160 Bobby gold jacket, whatever, Wilfrid sne. 0:00:36.360 --> 0:00:37.400 He's gonna be on the show. 0:00:37.600 --> 0:00:39.479 And that's that's what we got for y'all on this 0:00:39.640 --> 0:00:41.760 next edition of The Players Club. 0:00:43.120 --> 0:00:43.800 And Malayia. 0:00:44.800 --> 0:00:45.880 The Players Club. 0:00:45.640 --> 0:00:47.960 Is presented by Pepsi, the official soft drink of the 0:00:48.040 --> 0:00:51.559 Washington Commanders, and in part by Johnson Kendall Johnson, the 0:00:51.600 --> 0:00:55.800 official insurance broker and risk management partner of the Washington Commanders. 0:00:56.000 --> 0:00:59.080 Where our passion is your protection. We're gonna do something 0:00:59.080 --> 0:01:02.920 a little different. Normally have dubs the other week, but 0:01:03.080 --> 0:01:06.640 for this show, get my give my saying out. We're 0:01:06.640 --> 0:01:09.400 gonna give dubs of the of the season, the mid 0:01:09.440 --> 0:01:15.360 season so far after ten games, team is balling. What 0:01:15.480 --> 0:01:17.600 has been your impressions of this team so far, Like 0:01:17.600 --> 0:01:20.240 who would be who would you give your dubs of. 0:01:20.240 --> 0:01:21.800 The mid season? Two? 0:01:22.240 --> 0:01:25.840 Well, for me, y'all been teaching me all year. But 0:01:26.319 --> 0:01:27.640 that Frankie levou Man. 0:01:30.120 --> 0:01:31.120 You gotta CRUs. 0:01:33.120 --> 0:01:36.440 But Frankie levou Man and I seen him in training 0:01:36.720 --> 0:01:38.480 and he's one of those guys, like you said, he 0:01:38.560 --> 0:01:40.880 come out of the locker room. He's a dude and 0:01:42.160 --> 0:01:45.800 we knew that he could play linebacker. I had no 0:01:46.040 --> 0:01:48.720 idea learning if we talked about it each week. 0:01:48.880 --> 0:01:50.560 Man, did you see that pass rush move? 0:01:50.880 --> 0:01:54.400 Did you see his effort and and what he brings 0:01:54.440 --> 0:01:57.000 to the table along with Bobby and the rest of 0:01:57.040 --> 0:01:59.280 the defense. But I think he's that he's that dude 0:01:59.360 --> 0:02:02.840 on that defense. And I've been really impressed with with 0:02:03.000 --> 0:02:06.280 him and his performance weekend and week out and when 0:02:06.280 --> 0:02:10.440 he's when he's there, Frankie lavou for me, louvu for me. 0:02:10.960 --> 0:02:13.400 On the defense side of the ball, it's been great. 0:02:13.560 --> 0:02:15.400 Are we talking about offenses as well? Or we just 0:02:15.440 --> 0:02:19.680 think whatever, Yeah, he's my guy, and then on and 0:02:19.720 --> 0:02:22.160 then and then on on the offense side of the ball. 0:02:23.240 --> 0:02:26.280 Is we can talk about you know, Jade and I 0:02:26.280 --> 0:02:29.639 want to say that for Santana, but b Rob Man 0:02:30.400 --> 0:02:33.080 b Rob his and we had him on the on 0:02:33.120 --> 0:02:35.280 the show early year and he's talking about turning it 0:02:35.360 --> 0:02:38.959 up Week two Giants hunting thirty three yards. He's that 0:02:39.160 --> 0:02:43.280 hammer catching out the backfield, doing everything we've we've asked 0:02:43.360 --> 0:02:45.640 him do. Nicked up here and there, but for the 0:02:45.639 --> 0:02:48.760 most part, man, I've been so impressed with that kid, 0:02:49.360 --> 0:02:51.799 along with others, But for me, it was be robbing 0:02:51.840 --> 0:02:53.520 the way he's been doing, the way he's been running 0:02:53.520 --> 0:02:56.320 the ball behind that good offense line and everything setting 0:02:56.400 --> 0:02:59.560 up give making people put one on one coverage for 0:02:59.639 --> 0:03:01.000 the guy on the outside to eat. 0:03:01.040 --> 0:03:02.760 But he's he was an ex fractor for me. 0:03:03.240 --> 0:03:04.600 You know, I think. 0:03:04.520 --> 0:03:08.440 It'd be obvious if I came out with an offensive guy, 0:03:08.680 --> 0:03:09.560 or you know what I mean. 0:03:09.680 --> 0:03:11.840 So I'm gonna let you guys have y'all way with. 0:03:11.880 --> 0:03:16.600 You because you know I bring it. When I bring it, 0:03:16.639 --> 0:03:19.840 I make you really think about it. 0:03:20.000 --> 0:03:21.160 I'm gonna make you put on your. 0:03:21.040 --> 0:03:24.360 Thinking happens again for this one, And I got to 0:03:24.360 --> 0:03:27.760 give credit. I'm going back to coaches, going back to coaches. 0:03:27.800 --> 0:03:29.120 You know, I like to I like to give coaches 0:03:29.120 --> 0:03:31.400 some praise. It's a guy who ain't give enough credit 0:03:31.440 --> 0:03:31.839 to man. 0:03:31.960 --> 0:03:33.000 I think that is a. 0:03:33.760 --> 0:03:36.520 And what he's doing that special teams man, I mean 0:03:36.560 --> 0:03:40.320 our special teams, you know, kickoff team, kickoff return team, 0:03:40.800 --> 0:03:41.320 or a kicker. 0:03:41.400 --> 0:03:42.960 The way he's been he's being on. 0:03:43.440 --> 0:03:46.720 I mean as a core, this group is ranked in 0:03:46.800 --> 0:03:47.800 the top three right now. 0:03:47.880 --> 0:03:49.880 You know, coming into the game a. 0:03:49.840 --> 0:03:53.320 Few weeks ago, you had Pittsburgh and US ranked in 0:03:53.360 --> 0:03:54.640 the top two. You know what I mean when it 0:03:54.640 --> 0:03:57.040 comes special teams wise, So I think is it don't 0:03:57.040 --> 0:03:59.800 get enough credit for what he's he's done up to 0:03:59.800 --> 0:04:02.120 this point in the season. And that's that's the way 0:04:02.160 --> 0:04:06.120 you win championships when you have offense, defense, and special 0:04:06.160 --> 0:04:07.800 teams play on the same acord. 0:04:07.920 --> 0:04:09.200 So I'm gonna get my dub. 0:04:09.280 --> 0:04:11.960 I'm gonna get my mid season dub or the season 0:04:12.360 --> 0:04:14.640 to Iszo Man. I think he's doing a tremendous job, 0:04:14.720 --> 0:04:17.000 you know, as a coach, as a special teams coach, 0:04:17.040 --> 0:04:18.680 and he got those guys flying. And I mean when 0:04:18.720 --> 0:04:20.599 you see the kickoff team, even though they had that 0:04:20.640 --> 0:04:22.120 little funky thing, they got to sit there and wait 0:04:22.160 --> 0:04:22.680 for the guy. 0:04:22.520 --> 0:04:23.480 To get the ball. 0:04:23.520 --> 0:04:25.720 When when that person get the ball and thank you. 0:04:27.720 --> 0:04:28.400 Them boys are. 0:04:28.279 --> 0:04:31.880 Smacking his They actually playing the way he played the game. 0:04:31.920 --> 0:04:32.760 So I love to see it. 0:04:32.800 --> 0:04:36.840 Man, I'll take the low hanging through since though we 0:04:36.920 --> 0:04:39.560 got we're gonna talk about this team and the. 0:04:41.560 --> 0:04:45.960 Jaydon Dallions, Man, Jay Dallions, it's you know, he's going 0:04:46.000 --> 0:04:48.239 to be really good, you know, one of the highest 0:04:48.279 --> 0:04:51.120 the trophy being drafted number two of all. 0:04:52.640 --> 0:04:54.560 For him to be playing at the level he's playing 0:04:54.600 --> 0:04:55.119 so quickly. 0:04:55.200 --> 0:04:57.800 That but that's how why we were how we know 0:04:57.880 --> 0:05:00.159 that because Bright Young won the highest you. 0:05:00.160 --> 0:05:02.120 Know what I'm saying, I didn't think we didn't know 0:05:02.160 --> 0:05:05.520 he was Let me remind when I say we knew 0:05:05.520 --> 0:05:06.320 he was going to be good. 0:05:06.880 --> 0:05:09.400 Eventually, we knew he was gonna play. We thought we 0:05:09.440 --> 0:05:12.200 playing the high level. He's exceeded expectations. 0:05:13.279 --> 0:05:16.280 He's exceeded expectations, and it really is about the way 0:05:16.320 --> 0:05:19.680 he's going about it from day one, from the first 0:05:19.720 --> 0:05:23.839 time we interviewed it. Extremely impressed with him with the amility. 0:05:24.600 --> 0:05:27.520 We've all been around rookies who haven't accomplished, accomplished nearly 0:05:27.560 --> 0:05:32.200 as much as day that's accomplished, and they come in feeling. 0:05:31.839 --> 0:05:35.760 That title big headed. I think they know everything. 0:05:36.560 --> 0:05:40.640 This kid man, he just goes out, plays ball, lights 0:05:40.720 --> 0:05:42.560 defenses up, and. 0:05:44.000 --> 0:05:46.120 Yeah, he's in the MVP conversation. 0:05:46.480 --> 0:05:49.640 I just Rookie the year, but the MVP conversation has 0:05:49.640 --> 0:05:53.520 his team where we're sitting right now, and I keep 0:05:53.560 --> 0:05:54.640 telling y'all, he's. 0:05:54.480 --> 0:05:59.279 Only going to get better. That's the schedule about it. 0:05:59.520 --> 0:06:01.120 Just to speaking to add a little bit, you talk 0:06:01.160 --> 0:06:01.960 about humility. 0:06:02.760 --> 0:06:05.919 The kid told us after the hell Mary, when we 0:06:06.000 --> 0:06:09.960 had them on Game Day Lives postgame show, he. 0:06:09.920 --> 0:06:12.480 Says, that's God. He's like, I got to be living right, 0:06:12.520 --> 0:06:13.039 you know what I mean? 0:06:13.160 --> 0:06:15.400 And the reason why I wanted to say that because 0:06:15.640 --> 0:06:18.200 it's crazy you said humility. And the first thing I 0:06:18.200 --> 0:06:20.920 thought about I wear I got a tattoo when I 0:06:20.960 --> 0:06:21.760 was in high school. 0:06:22.240 --> 0:06:23.480 It's a Bible scripture. 0:06:23.680 --> 0:06:25.960 And it's crazy because my one of my daughters just 0:06:26.000 --> 0:06:28.960 got baptized. And then my oldest daughter the other day 0:06:29.120 --> 0:06:30.360 just asked me like that, what are some of the 0:06:30.400 --> 0:06:31.760 things can I pray about? 0:06:31.760 --> 0:06:32.800 How you teach me how to pray? 0:06:33.200 --> 0:06:36.239 And for her to be twenty plus, so she's twenty 0:06:36.279 --> 0:06:37.919 actually and she wants to learn how to pray. And 0:06:38.000 --> 0:06:39.560 you know, I always bothered them about that because I 0:06:39.600 --> 0:06:41.479 told him, I've been praying since I was a little boy. 0:06:41.600 --> 0:06:43.480 Like we didn't grow up in the church, but I'm 0:06:43.520 --> 0:06:45.800 always praying. I'm praying when I get up, I'm praying 0:06:45.839 --> 0:06:48.240 at night. And I was happy to hear her say 0:06:48.279 --> 0:06:49.720 she want to learn, you know, and she wanted to 0:06:49.720 --> 0:06:52.240 get closer to God. And I send her a scripture, 0:06:52.240 --> 0:06:53.880 the scripture that I got tattooed on me, and it 0:06:53.920 --> 0:06:57.679 says it's James fourteen, and it said, humble yourself before 0:06:57.680 --> 0:06:59.040 the Lord, and he will lift you up. 0:06:59.440 --> 0:07:01.040 And I told her I walk with that, you know 0:07:01.080 --> 0:07:01.440 what I mean. 0:07:01.480 --> 0:07:03.280 And everybody wanted the tan of why you're so soft 0:07:03.320 --> 0:07:05.320 sport while you so humble, while you take on That's 0:07:05.320 --> 0:07:05.839 been my life. 0:07:05.880 --> 0:07:08.279 I didn't try to be humble. It was born in me. 0:07:08.320 --> 0:07:09.200 It was instilling me. 0:07:09.400 --> 0:07:12.000 And as I was coming up to learn myself a 0:07:12.040 --> 0:07:15.240 little bit, I found the scripture that identify that, you know, 0:07:15.320 --> 0:07:18.800 identified with So listening to him say that about the 0:07:18.880 --> 0:07:22.040 Lord and about living right to watch him play, it's 0:07:22.120 --> 0:07:24.920 not a It's not a surprise to me why he's 0:07:25.040 --> 0:07:28.600 successful because he knows a higher power and he believes 0:07:28.600 --> 0:07:30.880 in and he's doing the right things to get itself 0:07:30.880 --> 0:07:33.480 prepared because you know, one of the things about opportunity 0:07:33.600 --> 0:07:35.560 is the preparation part of Like, if you're not gonna 0:07:35.560 --> 0:07:36.800 pare it for the opportunity, then. 0:07:36.680 --> 0:07:38.080 You're gonna fail, you know what I mean. 0:07:38.080 --> 0:07:40.320 So you can say everything he did up to this point, 0:07:40.480 --> 0:07:43.320 he prepared itself to have these moments, and that's why 0:07:43.360 --> 0:07:44.720 you know, you got to give it up to him. 0:07:44.800 --> 0:07:50.080 You also thinking about the another dub of the weak 0:07:50.120 --> 0:07:52.480 of who I give dub of the being seasoned? 0:07:52.520 --> 0:07:54.240 So I got to give it to. 0:07:54.240 --> 0:07:57.360 The ownership group, and the reason I give it to 0:07:57.400 --> 0:08:00.400 the ownership group. And you know, they've done a they've 0:08:00.400 --> 0:08:02.920 done a tremendous job and all the things they've added 0:08:02.960 --> 0:08:05.440 around not just here but also at the stadium and 0:08:05.520 --> 0:08:08.040 fan experience and trying to make things better. But I'll 0:08:08.080 --> 0:08:11.080 go back to the process they went through first and 0:08:11.120 --> 0:08:16.080 foremost and hiring Adam Peters. Yes, they had, they had, 0:08:16.200 --> 0:08:18.960 they had a plan, you know, Josh Harris leading that obviously, 0:08:19.480 --> 0:08:23.640 and him in the process that he went through, having 0:08:23.680 --> 0:08:26.880 bringing in Bob Myers and having Rix Bildman as guys 0:08:26.920 --> 0:08:30.120 who helped him through that process. And you know he 0:08:30.840 --> 0:08:34.880 allos other sports teams, and he knew he'd hired general 0:08:34.880 --> 0:08:38.080 managers and head coaches before and all that, but knowing that, hey, 0:08:38.080 --> 0:08:40.520 this is this is a different element. Football is different 0:08:40.559 --> 0:08:43.839 than basketball, or different than soccer, whatever the case may be. 0:08:44.240 --> 0:08:47.040 Let's bring in some other people to help me with 0:08:47.120 --> 0:08:50.880 this process and identifying Adam Peters and from there Adam 0:08:50.920 --> 0:08:55.959 Peters and ownership, hiring Dad Quinn and putting that together. 0:08:56.080 --> 0:08:59.080 And for this to come together so quickly, you have 0:08:59.240 --> 0:09:02.560 to it's ahead of schedule. There's no other their head schedule. 0:09:03.280 --> 0:09:04.600 And then what we are right now. 0:09:04.640 --> 0:09:08.640 And to that point, the trades, Yeah, the trades and 0:09:08.679 --> 0:09:10.840 some of the guys who bought and free agency. We 0:09:10.880 --> 0:09:15.880 talked about bringing Bobby early. Bobby was in that veteran leadership, uh, 0:09:16.160 --> 0:09:21.040 trading for trading for Marshaun, you know, before the deadline 0:09:21.040 --> 0:09:23.319 when we needed until we talked about what that meant 0:09:23.360 --> 0:09:27.160 for the organization and drafting j Those three, those three, 0:09:27.480 --> 0:09:30.120 those three moves along are life. 0:09:30.160 --> 0:09:31.000 The draft pick, not. 0:09:30.960 --> 0:09:33.480 Even talking about that trade, that trade with Johann Johnson. 0:09:33.720 --> 0:09:35.320 Oh yeah, earlier in the season. 0:09:35.400 --> 0:09:38.080 I mean that right there was puzzling at first, but 0:09:38.120 --> 0:09:40.800 then when you look at the whole you know, picture 0:09:41.080 --> 0:09:43.440 of what they're looking for in the receiver and what 0:09:43.480 --> 0:09:46.200 they got for it was. It was basically helpful too, 0:09:46.240 --> 0:09:47.199 because you think about we. 0:09:47.160 --> 0:09:49.760 Lost the third, but that third. Having that third kind 0:09:49.800 --> 0:09:50.920 of gave us that third back. 0:09:51.000 --> 0:09:56.360 So, oh man, you're right, Cliff Kingsbury, this is all sirus. Yes, sir. 0:09:56.440 --> 0:10:00.199 You know, he was a head coach at Arizona a'm 0:10:00.240 --> 0:10:03.720 out of college with the air raid offense, and it was, 0:10:04.120 --> 0:10:06.160 you know, a different type of offense coming to the league. 0:10:06.200 --> 0:10:08.040 And Cliff, there was. 0:10:08.040 --> 0:10:10.120 A during the preseason we used to have him on 0:10:10.720 --> 0:10:13.160 like once a week we'd have the coaches. We had 0:10:13.240 --> 0:10:16.720 him on a conference call, and he talked about having 0:10:16.760 --> 0:10:19.680 these other coaches from these different backgrounds. Yep, having coach 0:10:19.760 --> 0:10:23.520 LeAnn having uh Brian Johnson, who was the offensive coordinator 0:10:23.960 --> 0:10:27.520 came from with the from Philly and kind of bring 0:10:27.520 --> 0:10:30.720 bringing that all together and creating the Washington Commander's offense 0:10:30.760 --> 0:10:33.839 and him just saying, hey, when I came to the league, 0:10:33.880 --> 0:10:36.640 all I had was my offense from Texas Tech, right, 0:10:36.920 --> 0:10:41.840 and now creating an NFL offense. Y'all surprised about how 0:10:42.000 --> 0:10:45.800 how this offense is operated and come together so quickly 0:10:45.840 --> 0:10:49.600 and being able to not just coming together but producing 0:10:49.600 --> 0:10:50.360 the way that they're. 0:10:50.840 --> 0:10:56.120 Well, you're absolutely right, because the air raid offense traditionally 0:10:56.280 --> 0:10:59.200 like doesn't have the feel of that. You know, you 0:10:59.280 --> 0:11:01.360 run a stretch play and stuff like that, but in 0:11:01.440 --> 0:11:03.839 the counters and you don't have the vertical passing the 0:11:03.920 --> 0:11:07.480 vertical passing game get the ball out. But it seems 0:11:07.520 --> 0:11:11.080 like there's a special combination of the run game pair 0:11:11.280 --> 0:11:15.000 with their past game mixing that we understand the talent 0:11:15.200 --> 0:11:18.400 that we've had in getting those guys. We got a Hammer, 0:11:18.440 --> 0:11:20.920 we got a third down back, we got Terry, we 0:11:21.000 --> 0:11:26.479 got Zach, the line, and then the run game complements 0:11:26.480 --> 0:11:31.440 the line and all whole, all whole, bringing Jayden along, 0:11:32.160 --> 0:11:35.040 and we've seen Jaden just continue to get better from 0:11:35.080 --> 0:11:38.920 each one each week. So I would say I'm surprised. 0:11:39.600 --> 0:11:43.640 But when you think about Brian, Coach Lynn and the staff, 0:11:43.679 --> 0:11:47.360 and it's the right combination because he was quarterback WI Springford, Philly, 0:11:47.480 --> 0:11:51.080 Brian was with Jalen, and Coach Lynn is a monster 0:11:51.200 --> 0:11:54.040 in the run game and Clifford is just a genius guy. 0:11:54.600 --> 0:11:57.880 So I just think it's like, like you said, dude, 0:11:58.360 --> 0:12:01.000 that's a it's a beautiful mix of personality. 0:12:01.559 --> 0:12:04.360 I won't say I'm surprised. I had no expectations. I 0:12:04.440 --> 0:12:05.960 really didn't. I didn't. 0:12:06.080 --> 0:12:06.440 I knew. 0:12:06.520 --> 0:12:09.079 One thing that that stood out to me is when 0:12:09.120 --> 0:12:12.160 I saw Cliff in his stint as a head coach, 0:12:12.320 --> 0:12:15.600 his running game always was second to none. You got 0:12:15.640 --> 0:12:17.520 to think about it. Connor was over there killing him 0:12:17.720 --> 0:12:20.360 was he was? And so with that in mind, the 0:12:20.400 --> 0:12:22.600 first thing came to mind. That's why I was barking 0:12:22.679 --> 0:12:25.080 up the you know, telling everybody the whole year, I 0:12:25.080 --> 0:12:28.400 can't wait to see be Robbs because knowing that everybody 0:12:28.440 --> 0:12:30.600 know what we're going to do offensively with the just 0:12:30.640 --> 0:12:33.240 the air raid attack and thinking that that's how it's 0:12:33.280 --> 0:12:35.280 going to be or how it's going to look, he's 0:12:35.320 --> 0:12:37.120 going to get to that run game. It allows him 0:12:37.160 --> 0:12:39.800 to show us week in and week out how special 0:12:39.880 --> 0:12:41.880 this offense could be. And I think he spent a 0:12:41.920 --> 0:12:43.840 lot of time with the guys that he brought around. 0:12:43.920 --> 0:12:45.800 You think about it. We brought the Johnson. 0:12:45.760 --> 0:12:48.719 Coach, we brought them from Philly, you brought in and 0:12:48.800 --> 0:12:51.160 you talked about Lynn. You know, all these coaches have 0:12:51.559 --> 0:12:54.440 been in good offenses and had their role in why 0:12:54.480 --> 0:12:57.480 that offense was special, and now you bring it to here. 0:12:57.720 --> 0:12:59.760 It's a copycat league. You know, we want a lot 0:12:59.760 --> 0:13:02.120 of game aims doing things that other teams did. So 0:13:02.440 --> 0:13:06.080 I think altogether, man, it's it's a unity of coaches that's. 0:13:05.880 --> 0:13:06.800 Putting their head together. 0:13:06.840 --> 0:13:09.240 And but Cliff getting a lot of credit for and 0:13:09.360 --> 0:13:10.760 he and they're doing a damn good job. 0:13:11.679 --> 0:13:14.600 Another coach has done our standing job bringing some guys together. 0:13:15.520 --> 0:13:16.240 Joe with Jr. 0:13:16.559 --> 0:13:20.840 Hissic coordinators love love, Joe has his press conferences. 0:13:20.880 --> 0:13:26.040 He he keeps Obama, Obama the football version. 0:13:28.520 --> 0:13:29.280 Let the man talk. 0:13:29.960 --> 0:13:32.280 I want to just let him go. 0:13:33.679 --> 0:13:35.400 For him to be at a You think about how 0:13:35.440 --> 0:13:38.520 the defense was first couple of weeks, how they started off, 0:13:38.520 --> 0:13:41.040 and then how he's been able to. 0:13:42.640 --> 0:13:44.240 Take this defense to another level. 0:13:44.440 --> 0:13:50.840 Get everything he's got out that pass rush. Those guys 0:13:50.880 --> 0:13:52.360 who are like, all right, we're gonna get the pass 0:13:52.600 --> 0:13:55.680 from your boy, Frankie Louvu obviously. 0:13:55.800 --> 0:13:59.960 Uh. You know, other guys have emerged. Newton emerged, Newton Fire, 0:14:00.559 --> 0:14:04.280 the Foller has emerged, Cleveland Fair or Armstrong. You know 0:14:04.280 --> 0:14:04.920 a bunch of guys. 0:14:04.960 --> 0:14:09.000 Bobby what he blessed his and then getting the guys 0:14:09.000 --> 0:14:10.960 on the back end the communicating play a lot better. 0:14:11.040 --> 0:14:13.600 You guys both play defense, and I'm gonna just tell 0:14:13.640 --> 0:14:16.400 you my perspective of watching defenses and playing against them, 0:14:16.679 --> 0:14:19.880 it's very seldom that you see a defense that shows 0:14:19.920 --> 0:14:20.920 you who they are. 0:14:20.840 --> 0:14:21.640 And got better. 0:14:22.200 --> 0:14:25.160 Yeah, shows you a completely new defense later in the season. Now, 0:14:25.360 --> 0:14:27.520 don't get me wrong, they might be a little fine 0:14:27.600 --> 0:14:29.880 tune on some of the things that they didn't do well, 0:14:30.080 --> 0:14:32.000 but you never see them just like, what the hell 0:14:32.040 --> 0:14:32.760 did that come from? 0:14:32.760 --> 0:14:33.440 Like you know what I mean? 0:14:33.720 --> 0:14:36.440 So to see these guys come out and you're like, Okay, 0:14:36.480 --> 0:14:39.520 damn what we thought we was weak at. So that's 0:14:39.520 --> 0:14:41.600 what I give a lot of credit to these guys 0:14:41.600 --> 0:14:44.000 for as a whole, because it seems to me that 0:14:44.080 --> 0:14:45.840 as much as we want to talk about these players 0:14:46.160 --> 0:14:49.000 and how well they're playing, it all stems from the coaching. 0:14:49.320 --> 0:14:50.280 It all stems from. 0:14:50.160 --> 0:14:52.880 What they building and how they created this thing, this 0:14:53.000 --> 0:14:56.400 bond of brothers and the culture that they're setting. I 0:14:56.440 --> 0:14:58.040 can just imagine I want to be a fly on 0:14:58.080 --> 0:14:59.160 the wall one day. I want to go in the 0:14:59.240 --> 0:15:01.480 room and I want to hear or see one of 0:15:01.520 --> 0:15:03.920 these coaches speaking to somebody who didn't show up in 0:15:03.960 --> 0:15:06.800 a run fit, or who didn't or who didn't go 0:15:06.880 --> 0:15:09.440 out and block a guy blocked the safety, you know 0:15:09.560 --> 0:15:10.240 as a receiver. 0:15:10.440 --> 0:15:12.000 I just want to see what he's saying to him. 0:15:11.880 --> 0:15:14.960 Because I can imagine it already that he let them 0:15:15.000 --> 0:15:16.600 know he can't win like that. 0:15:16.840 --> 0:15:18.560 You ain't being a dog right now. 0:15:18.800 --> 0:15:21.480 What I was impressed with when we and why I 0:15:21.520 --> 0:15:23.760 figured the defense would get better London. 0:15:24.000 --> 0:15:27.720 We saw in camp when we were working camp, they. 0:15:27.640 --> 0:15:30.840 Went the individual, then they went to two on two drill, 0:15:31.360 --> 0:15:36.040 you know, then seven on seven this situational you know team. 0:15:36.600 --> 0:15:38.840 But what was the first I think me and you 0:15:38.880 --> 0:15:42.080 both were impressed, Well, like man, they were really breaking 0:15:42.080 --> 0:15:44.840 the game down and teaching football, you know what I 0:15:44.840 --> 0:15:48.120 mean teaching And we was up there looking like man, 0:15:48.160 --> 0:15:50.640 look they're working on the in and out drill and 0:15:50.760 --> 0:15:53.240 man coverage. They're doing switch routes, or they're working on 0:15:53.320 --> 0:15:55.400 breaking on the heads and or they're doing this. So 0:15:56.200 --> 0:15:59.200 that was I knew at the defense with coach would 0:15:59.200 --> 0:16:02.600 eventually get get better. They would communicate more, Bobby and 0:16:02.640 --> 0:16:05.440 all the team will come together. That's freegingson do well 0:16:06.360 --> 0:16:07.240 what feelings you know. 0:16:07.520 --> 0:16:11.800 It's that time. Let's start drive time, Rive time to drive. 0:16:12.720 --> 0:16:16.160 It's time for drive Time, presented by Eastern Automotive Crew, 0:16:16.240 --> 0:16:20.280 Any car, anyway for everyone since nineteen eighty eight. This week, 0:16:20.280 --> 0:16:22.600 we're gonna talk about some of our funnest memories man, 0:16:23.600 --> 0:16:26.280 going against those Eagles. Yeah, when you see a team 0:16:26.280 --> 0:16:29.720 twice a year, you have a lot of I just 0:16:29.720 --> 0:16:32.360 hate you have a lot of memories. And it's crazy, man, 0:16:32.360 --> 0:16:34.360 to be honest with you, as much as we talk 0:16:34.360 --> 0:16:38.880 about our division, to me, I hate the other two 0:16:38.960 --> 0:16:40.960 teams more than I hate the Eagles, and the Eagles 0:16:41.080 --> 0:16:43.080 fan base is just the worst of them all. 0:16:44.480 --> 0:16:46.840 But I found some kind of love for the h. 0:16:49.760 --> 0:16:50.600 I don't know what it is. 0:16:50.640 --> 0:16:52.360 I don't hate them as much as I hate the 0:16:52.400 --> 0:16:53.840 Cowboys and the Giants. 0:16:53.840 --> 0:16:56.040 The Eagles I just like, Okay, they the Eagles I love. 0:16:56.880 --> 0:16:59.600 I love going to the Philly player because of their fans. 0:16:59.640 --> 0:17:01.520 Because I was about to go auhead and shut. 0:17:01.320 --> 0:17:03.920 Y'all up, I felt like a gladiated against I was 0:17:03.960 --> 0:17:05.240 gonna say, I'll tell you one thing. 0:17:05.400 --> 0:17:09.480 When the fan and for you fans who don't know this, when. 0:17:09.359 --> 0:17:12.920 You're booing specifically at me, I understand I'm a threat. 0:17:13.359 --> 0:17:16.280 So when I hear eighty nine they called me out, 0:17:16.720 --> 0:17:17.639 your mama. 0:17:17.400 --> 0:17:18.360 Did guess what. 0:17:18.640 --> 0:17:19.000 I know. 0:17:19.600 --> 0:17:21.560 I'm a threat to you. You you can't watch me. 0:17:21.760 --> 0:17:24.080 You spending that hard earned money on watching me today. 0:17:24.119 --> 0:17:26.240 So it gets me a little. I'm gonna get you 0:17:26.240 --> 0:17:26.640 what you're looking. 0:17:26.640 --> 0:17:28.960 I'm gonna tell you how how bad the Eagles fans are. 0:17:29.720 --> 0:17:30.040 Again. 0:17:30.080 --> 0:17:34.120 I loved it because I just like that type of batality. 0:17:34.520 --> 0:17:37.240 First time you played the Monday night football. This is 0:17:37.280 --> 0:17:40.520 old seven. I can't hear they throwing heads at our bus, 0:17:40.960 --> 0:17:43.080 these type of It was a couple of seasons. Fast 0:17:43.119 --> 0:17:45.840 forward a couple of years later and I knocked out 0:17:45.840 --> 0:17:49.000 two of the Eagles. I knocked out the runner back 0:17:49.040 --> 0:17:54.280 of that Brive Westbrook and the crazy thing. He hit 0:17:54.359 --> 0:17:57.000 his head on my knee and he had a concussion. 0:17:57.000 --> 0:17:57.440 He was out. 0:17:57.840 --> 0:18:03.280 Then I caught uh Sean Jackson on the dig lady 0:18:03.359 --> 0:18:06.160 by the middle field. He he had he didn't finish 0:18:06.240 --> 0:18:10.159 the game. This is all in one season. But I 0:18:10.240 --> 0:18:12.320 got death threats for the Eagles. 0:18:15.040 --> 0:18:16.520 I mean, we can laugh about it. I don't know. 0:18:17.119 --> 0:18:21.480 I'm still here, so they didn't, you know, yeah, carry 0:18:21.520 --> 0:18:24.400 it out, but it's just like, damn, because I a doctor. 0:18:24.400 --> 0:18:26.600 A couple of y'all players out there, Man, I wanted 0:18:26.560 --> 0:18:27.840 to I'm trying to. 0:18:28.840 --> 0:18:31.199 It shows you how much how much these games mean 0:18:31.280 --> 0:18:35.199 to some of these fans. Speaking of meaningful games, Man, London, 0:18:35.240 --> 0:18:38.639 you was, I believe you was calling this game in 0:18:38.880 --> 0:18:42.080 twenty twenty one when we went up there today. 0:18:41.760 --> 0:18:42.440 Night football game. 0:18:42.520 --> 0:18:48.160 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was twenty twenty two, twenty one. 0:18:48.359 --> 0:18:51.680 It was a little recap, man, about the feeling what 0:18:51.720 --> 0:18:54.040 you saw that that night. I mean, you had you 0:18:54.080 --> 0:18:56.720 had an Eagles team that was riding high. They hadn't 0:18:56.720 --> 0:18:59.120 all the game. They were defeated, you know what I'm saying. 0:18:59.160 --> 0:19:00.000 They hadn't lost the game. 0:19:00.160 --> 0:19:00.320 Man. 0:19:00.400 --> 0:19:03.480 We went out there with the mentality that we see 0:19:03.520 --> 0:19:05.240 from our team now, you know what I mean. These 0:19:05.240 --> 0:19:08.159 guys better than Beauty and nobody. 0:19:08.600 --> 0:19:12.800 Yeah, just remembering that game, I think they were eleven 0:19:12.840 --> 0:19:16.119 and if memory sarves me correctly, I don't know what 0:19:16.200 --> 0:19:20.520 our record was, but it was the mindset of the 0:19:20.600 --> 0:19:25.439 game plan we went into that game, and if we 0:19:25.440 --> 0:19:27.359 didn't run it forty times, we ran it. 0:19:27.280 --> 0:19:30.880 Close to forty times. And I can remember all there. 0:19:31.000 --> 0:19:32.920 I mean, it was just a thing of beauty because 0:19:32.960 --> 0:19:35.679 we had been up until that point throwing the football alive, 0:19:36.080 --> 0:19:38.119 you know, trying to get the passing game going. But 0:19:38.240 --> 0:19:42.439 in that game, I was like, man, this looked like 0:19:42.480 --> 0:19:43.959 the Redskins. 0:19:43.359 --> 0:19:46.040 Right, this looked like the Hogs. 0:19:46.359 --> 0:19:50.000 I mean they just poled b Roberts running that ball 0:19:50.040 --> 0:19:50.800 all over them. 0:19:50.840 --> 0:19:51.000 Man. 0:19:51.040 --> 0:19:56.160 Its just it was just a physical mindset, the physicality 0:19:56.160 --> 0:19:58.560 of that ball game. It was you talk about the thing. 0:19:58.880 --> 0:19:59.840 It was a thing of beauty. 0:20:00.040 --> 0:20:02.480 Watch we had. I think we had four turnovers in 0:20:02.480 --> 0:20:02.800 that game. 0:20:02.800 --> 0:20:06.399 I remember foot and they caught it. 0:20:08.160 --> 0:20:08.240 Was. 0:20:08.280 --> 0:20:08.760 It was. 0:20:08.760 --> 0:20:13.800 It was a bunch of takeaways, man, it was a 0:20:13.840 --> 0:20:15.560 bunch of It was a bunch of takeaways in that 0:20:15.600 --> 0:20:16.840 ball You. 0:20:16.920 --> 0:20:21.360 Just remember those games like, yeah, oh yeah, we went 0:20:21.400 --> 0:20:23.240 in there, A force made a. 0:20:23.280 --> 0:20:28.159 Tremendous like almost like a Willie Mays type intercept. I 0:20:28.160 --> 0:20:32.080 think it was the Willy Mays interception or somebody else, 0:20:32.320 --> 0:20:35.480 Saint Juice I think knocked the ball out that Ford's recovered. 0:20:35.960 --> 0:20:37.960 It was just, man, it was a place being matter 0:20:38.080 --> 0:20:38.480 that game. 0:20:38.560 --> 0:20:41.400 Some of your favorite Eagles matchups, Man, oh. 0:20:41.240 --> 0:20:43.920 Man, I tell you my favorite Eagle match out we 0:20:44.000 --> 0:20:47.320 had here. We played them on a Sunday night. I 0:20:47.600 --> 0:20:50.600 think I'm you know, we're talking about that later. But 0:20:51.600 --> 0:20:54.439 t O and I was matched up on t O 0:20:55.480 --> 0:20:58.480 and we were getting after him, and I remember him running. 0:20:59.720 --> 0:21:01.920 Old run about. 0:21:01.560 --> 0:21:04.119 Five played the month Sunday Night football. 0:21:04.200 --> 0:21:06.720 I hit him, popped the ball up, and then Sean 0:21:06.880 --> 0:21:07.800 hit somebody else. 0:21:09.359 --> 0:21:11.560 Knowing that we are facing these guys at their home 0:21:11.600 --> 0:21:12.440 on Thursday night. 0:21:12.880 --> 0:21:13.840 What's like playing there? 0:21:13.920 --> 0:21:14.040 Man? 0:21:14.080 --> 0:21:15.880 I mean I remember the old what. 0:21:15.840 --> 0:21:18.520 It was called the bet Yeah, yeah, that was not 0:21:18.680 --> 0:21:19.400 like the other. 0:21:19.400 --> 0:21:22.240 You know what I mean? But does this new stadium 0:21:22.280 --> 0:21:23.800 have that same kind of shot? 0:21:23.920 --> 0:21:26.200 Sean? You you had to play. 0:21:26.040 --> 0:21:28.560 In the vet when they had the little you was you? 0:21:28.720 --> 0:21:30.560 Was you by the time you got leave. 0:21:30.720 --> 0:21:31.720 When the filter. 0:21:33.680 --> 0:21:38.520 Was like this, I thought you, I thought you. 0:21:38.520 --> 0:21:41.320 I know, you know all. But guess what to we played? 0:21:41.440 --> 0:21:44.600 We played against the Owls Temple. 0:21:46.760 --> 0:21:52.200 You know that that turf was terrible, terrible, terrible I've had. 0:21:52.440 --> 0:21:56.760 I think I may have played the Eagles more than 0:21:56.760 --> 0:21:59.639 any teams teame of my career because when I was 0:21:59.680 --> 0:22:01.639 the same Lewis, we played them, played me in the 0:22:01.720 --> 0:22:04.960 NFC Championship game, played them a couple of times during 0:22:04.960 --> 0:22:05.800 the regular season. 0:22:06.000 --> 0:22:11.639 You against Andy Reid, huh yeah, Andy Reid, big flet 0:22:11.720 --> 0:22:13.080 that's mind for a big fletch. 0:22:13.400 --> 0:22:18.320 I used to get after the Eagles many I wasn't 0:22:18.320 --> 0:22:20.840 the fair favorite of probably the Eagles players and coaches 0:22:20.880 --> 0:22:23.960 because I don't believe in making friends on the on 0:22:24.000 --> 0:22:25.880 the field. I talk, I talk all the time about 0:22:26.560 --> 0:22:30.120 there was no peace treaty. I don't before a game. 0:22:30.160 --> 0:22:31.800 I'm not talking to you. I don't care if me 0:22:31.880 --> 0:22:35.840 and you grew up together from from little league when 0:22:35.840 --> 0:22:38.240 we stepped between these white no, not even we ain't 0:22:38.240 --> 0:22:39.520 even got to between the white lines. 0:22:39.560 --> 0:22:42.360 Soon you come out of tunnel, as soon as I 0:22:42.440 --> 0:22:45.040 know we're playing that week. Soon A man, we ain't. 0:22:45.680 --> 0:22:49.119 I'm not your friends. There is no communications. 0:22:49.840 --> 0:22:51.280 I don't want a small I don't want a small 0:22:51.359 --> 0:22:53.399 talk with you before the game. I don't want to 0:22:53.400 --> 0:22:57.160 exchange jersey with you after the game. You're still the enemy. 0:22:57.760 --> 0:23:01.160 Ain't no chumming it up matter I want. I'm here 0:23:01.160 --> 0:23:01.760 for blood. 0:23:03.000 --> 0:23:05.119 Tonights gonna be some blood. It's gonna be some blood. 0:23:06.160 --> 0:23:08.760 It's gonna be some I'm actually looking forward to more 0:23:08.840 --> 0:23:11.639 so now just knowing, because you know, I was skeptical 0:23:11.720 --> 0:23:14.960 about just where we was at corner wise, and I'm 0:23:14.960 --> 0:23:17.480 not saying that our corners haven't been playing good or 0:23:17.760 --> 0:23:20.720 playing up to, you know, the level that they're supposed to. 0:23:20.760 --> 0:23:23.119 But I know when you have a guy like a J. 0:23:23.400 --> 0:23:28.280 Brown and DeVonta Smith, you you need more than just one. 0:23:29.600 --> 0:23:32.720 So we got obviously Brian who was quarterback culture after 0:23:32.760 --> 0:23:35.760 Eagles and he's in stall some stuff, but he also 0:23:35.840 --> 0:23:38.600 knows that does that give an advantaged way with one 0:23:38.600 --> 0:23:39.360 way or the other. 0:23:40.800 --> 0:23:43.320 Brought up, brought that up, I forget all about that. 0:23:43.320 --> 0:23:45.960 I just mentioned him, and I forgot that having him 0:23:46.000 --> 0:23:49.160 here will give us a little keys on what they 0:23:49.240 --> 0:23:54.440 do offense the receivers. That's definitely gonna be a big help. 0:23:54.720 --> 0:23:57.240 And now that you say that, along with who we 0:23:57.359 --> 0:24:00.240 just brought in, I'm looking forward to that matchup for 0:24:00.400 --> 0:24:03.240 the measure for that standpoint only, but I just I 0:24:03.280 --> 0:24:05.679 feel like this is one of those matchups man, where 0:24:06.160 --> 0:24:08.520 even though I've heard a lot of people signing with, 0:24:08.760 --> 0:24:12.320 you know, with the Eagles, I feel like I'm happy 0:24:12.359 --> 0:24:13.919 to be on that spot. I'm happy to be in 0:24:13.960 --> 0:24:15.960 that space because I understand what we're doing here. You 0:24:16.000 --> 0:24:18.200 know what we're what we're creating here, and I think 0:24:18.200 --> 0:24:20.000 this team is gonna be more than ready man to 0:24:20.040 --> 0:24:21.240 go out there, man, and go out there. 0:24:21.119 --> 0:24:23.800 And really and have a nice showcase of some good 0:24:23.800 --> 0:24:24.600 divisional football. 0:24:24.640 --> 0:24:27.280 This is a great segue and to set the talk. 0:24:28.080 --> 0:24:30.399 Great great segue to set the talk, because we're. 0:24:30.240 --> 0:24:34.000 Gonna we're gonna actually talk about the Eagles is even 0:24:34.040 --> 0:24:34.840 more detailed. 0:24:34.880 --> 0:24:36.520 So it's time to set the tone. 0:24:37.160 --> 0:24:41.000 Brought to you by Johnson Kendo Johnson, the official insurance 0:24:41.000 --> 0:24:44.960 broker and risk management partner of the Washington Commanders, where 0:24:44.960 --> 0:24:48.239 our passion is your protection. First off, let's start with 0:24:48.280 --> 0:24:54.040 this Eagles defense man top five and total yards top ten, 0:24:54.119 --> 0:24:58.080 and passing yards top five, rush top five and rush 0:24:58.160 --> 0:25:02.200 yards allowed, tear the total points per game. They playing 0:25:02.240 --> 0:25:06.440 some defensive Remember they got a new defensive coordinator, Vic Fangio, 0:25:07.200 --> 0:25:09.720 and he's been an architect of some great defenses. 0:25:09.720 --> 0:25:10.240 He don't play. 0:25:11.440 --> 0:25:14.120 How we're gonna be able to move the ball, score, points, 0:25:14.200 --> 0:25:17.960 rush against these Eagles, we just can't. 0:25:18.080 --> 0:25:19.879 We can't brush over that. 0:25:19.920 --> 0:25:23.199 For the folks out there about Fangio, Fangio is is 0:25:23.280 --> 0:25:25.560 somebody that's a nightmare that you need to prepare for. 0:25:25.720 --> 0:25:27.320 So just to give him a little bit of background, 0:25:27.440 --> 0:25:30.840 Vic Fangil was the defensive coordinator for the forty nine 0:25:30.920 --> 0:25:35.840 ers when they went to what for NFC Championship Championship State. 0:25:35.960 --> 0:25:39.040 I mean he's he's his other other defenses as well. Yeah, 0:25:39.080 --> 0:25:41.920 he's like the father of one of the one of 0:25:41.960 --> 0:25:44.000 the old GI's, one of the ol g's. 0:25:43.960 --> 0:25:48.040 And this is this to me, will probably be the 0:25:48.040 --> 0:25:52.680 best defense we faced. Yeah, from a scheme wise and 0:25:52.840 --> 0:25:57.000 just talent wise, so, but not a defense that we 0:25:57.080 --> 0:26:01.200 can't we can't do some things to but it's gonna 0:26:01.240 --> 0:26:04.600 be one of those like, hey, for the first time 0:26:04.640 --> 0:26:06.680 we might have a defense, try to dictate some things 0:26:06.680 --> 0:26:10.080 to us. And I think all the first half of 0:26:10.080 --> 0:26:11.840 the year and the whole most of the year we've 0:26:11.880 --> 0:26:14.680 been out there is trying to say, all right, we're 0:26:14.680 --> 0:26:16.720 gonna read off of this, we're gonna run past option 0:26:16.800 --> 0:26:18.920 off this, and we're gonna go we're gonna attack you here. 0:26:19.760 --> 0:26:19.920 Now. 0:26:19.960 --> 0:26:23.160 We gotta be a little bit of like like how 0:26:23.200 --> 0:26:24.840 we're gonna scheme them up a little bit. 0:26:25.840 --> 0:26:26.840 We scheme them all up. 0:26:26.880 --> 0:26:30.240 But do we have to again, I don't believe in 0:26:30.240 --> 0:26:33.280 peace treaties, man, we gotta we still got to going there. 0:26:33.400 --> 0:26:35.640 Like I hear him, talking, but no, no, no, no, when 0:26:35.760 --> 0:26:36.200 when when? 0:26:36.320 --> 0:26:39.639 When I say that, meaning like there's some defenses that 0:26:39.680 --> 0:26:42.640 do what they do and then there's fangio you don't 0:26:42.760 --> 0:26:45.119 always know what they do. That's what I mean by 0:26:45.160 --> 0:26:47.239 I said it's like first time, like everybody has been 0:26:47.359 --> 0:26:49.359 a page, Like he gonna throw some looks at you. 0:26:49.359 --> 0:26:53.600 You ain't. You definitely definitely make your heart old Jayden 0:26:54.280 --> 0:26:55.800 from a cover standpoint cover. 0:26:55.680 --> 0:26:58.080 Standpoint, And then you've got to just also compare what 0:26:58.119 --> 0:27:00.760 you've seen are already on film. I mean, they've been 0:27:00.760 --> 0:27:03.879 susceptible in all those areas where they're tough at People 0:27:03.920 --> 0:27:05.879 have scored on them, people have ran the ball on 0:27:05.920 --> 0:27:08.639 them basketball. So it's like any other defense, you just 0:27:08.680 --> 0:27:10.320 got to go out there. You haven't saw us yet, 0:27:10.320 --> 0:27:12.800 We haven't seen you yet. We watch each other on film, 0:27:12.840 --> 0:27:14.800 that's all we see. That's all we know until we 0:27:14.840 --> 0:27:17.080 get out there on the field together. Then we really know. 0:27:17.640 --> 0:27:19.399 You know what can be done and what can't be 0:27:19.480 --> 0:27:21.160 done against them. And that's what I think is gonna 0:27:21.160 --> 0:27:21.600 ball down to. 0:27:21.840 --> 0:27:25.159 It's it's it's the physicality, the physical physicality of this 0:27:25.200 --> 0:27:27.919 ball game, both sides of the ball, the two trenches, 0:27:27.960 --> 0:27:30.160 they got they got an excellent offensive line. 0:27:30.720 --> 0:27:33.160 You know, they got an excellent defense. 0:27:33.200 --> 0:27:36.160 But just looking at our our defense against their offense, 0:27:37.200 --> 0:27:40.120 having the stop of Saku Bark, I don't know how. 0:27:40.000 --> 0:27:42.000 To giants let him go to the division that is 0:27:42.080 --> 0:27:46.920 like I want to do jumping backwards on the brow 0:27:46.960 --> 0:27:49.359 you're gonna jumping. 0:27:49.960 --> 0:27:52.280 I was trying to explain it and the best way 0:27:52.280 --> 0:27:54.479 I can as a ball carrier, because I've been in 0:27:54.480 --> 0:27:57.480 a situation where you and that you and your bag 0:27:57.560 --> 0:27:59.480 so much with your moves to where the next move 0:27:59.520 --> 0:28:01.040 you didn't even expect to do it, but. 0:28:00.960 --> 0:28:04.280 It just came, and I'm like, that's incredible to have. 0:28:04.720 --> 0:28:07.320 It's almost like he wanted to spin and saw buddy, 0:28:07.320 --> 0:28:10.080 and it's like, let me jump and split. It was 0:28:10.119 --> 0:28:13.960 just man, bro, It's almost like he praised this thing 0:28:14.040 --> 0:28:15.200 that was like some matrix. 0:28:15.280 --> 0:28:16.360 Like he paused in the air. 0:28:17.880 --> 0:28:19.800 Here's the crazy thing. He had just hit somebody with. 0:28:21.440 --> 0:28:26.640 Spin gave y'all, y'all see the Nike. Uh they put 0:28:26.640 --> 0:28:31.200 the witness backwards. You ain't see the Nike. He would Yeah, 0:28:31.640 --> 0:28:34.679 I already made it a marketing there. Yeah, so they 0:28:34.760 --> 0:28:37.760 got they got him jumping backwards, and you know how 0:28:37.800 --> 0:28:39.520 I said Witness, how they used to do with the 0:28:39.720 --> 0:28:42.800 UH with the Nike logo with Lebron so they got 0:28:42.800 --> 0:28:45.640 the Witness spelled backwards like logo backwards. 0:28:48.200 --> 0:28:49.960 That's when you coach. That's when you when you but 0:28:50.000 --> 0:28:52.040 to your point where they when you see a kid 0:28:52.120 --> 0:28:53.880 can do something like that. You're talking about being in 0:28:53.920 --> 0:28:55.160 your bag and movies like that. 0:28:55.640 --> 0:28:59.080 Everybody to the ball, and we're gonna have to be 0:28:59.160 --> 0:29:02.720 relentless and our purshoot to the ball, and we're gonna 0:29:02.720 --> 0:29:03.640 have to get after that. 0:29:03.680 --> 0:29:05.680 And you gotta think just what he did for the 0:29:05.720 --> 0:29:08.640 Giants last year when the Giants was crap, you know 0:29:08.680 --> 0:29:10.640 what I mean, Like he was the reason in both 0:29:10.680 --> 0:29:13.360 of those games where we lost. 0:29:13.080 --> 0:29:14.440 The game, you know what I mean at it from 0:29:14.440 --> 0:29:16.880 the standpoint, that's why you go out. You give Marshawn Latamo, 0:29:17.720 --> 0:29:21.320 you get you get corners that can Hey, I can 0:29:21.400 --> 0:29:25.560 put more resources to stop to the sae Quon Barkley. 0:29:27.040 --> 0:29:30.000 That's why I mentioned Hey, yeah, the past defense. He 0:29:30.000 --> 0:29:33.160 brings a great element to the past defense. But also 0:29:33.280 --> 0:29:36.720 he should improve our run defense because now I can 0:29:37.240 --> 0:29:38.840 I can leave my corners out there a little bit 0:29:38.840 --> 0:29:41.160 more on the high land because I need. I need 0:29:41.160 --> 0:29:43.080 an eighth man in that box. I the safety. I 0:29:43.120 --> 0:29:46.080 need they run some RPOs. I need somebody ready to 0:29:46.640 --> 0:29:49.120 tackle Jalen Hurst if he decides to keep that ball. 0:29:49.400 --> 0:29:53.560 So it's gonna be a great great chess matchup out 0:29:53.600 --> 0:29:56.040 of a chill man, I missed them LC's battles. 0:29:56.240 --> 0:29:59.840 Yeah, this is one where you you know, when you 0:30:00.040 --> 0:30:04.000 you know, sometimes you get the feeling when you're going 0:30:04.040 --> 0:30:06.880 to the game. You get it before the stadium something. 0:30:07.120 --> 0:30:09.560 You're starting to get it, like you get it on Monday. 0:30:10.480 --> 0:30:14.440 You get that feeling like okay, you can just feel 0:30:14.480 --> 0:30:17.360 it in at practice, like there's some energy, and it 0:30:17.520 --> 0:30:19.280 is some energy this week for this game. 0:30:19.360 --> 0:30:21.520 I think n f C alone, I mean, just start 0:30:21.560 --> 0:30:23.840 division alone. And this is it goes for any division 0:30:23.880 --> 0:30:25.520 you ever played in. When you're playing against a team 0:30:25.560 --> 0:30:27.160 that you that you know well and they know you 0:30:27.240 --> 0:30:31.120 will it's almost like getting ready for that relative that 0:30:31.400 --> 0:30:34.120 come over on special holidays that you can't stand. 0:30:35.840 --> 0:30:36.480 Like you know how. 0:30:37.960 --> 0:30:41.160 We all did, and so it's just like damn, I 0:30:41.240 --> 0:30:43.920 gotta deal with this, you know again, and so like 0:30:44.040 --> 0:30:46.160 you you're going you're gonna have your best jokes ready 0:30:46.200 --> 0:30:46.440 for him. 0:30:46.760 --> 0:30:48.160 You're gonna have your best whatever. 0:30:48.400 --> 0:30:53.400 You know, I got a cousin. I can't stay at 0:30:53.440 --> 0:30:56.320 this joker. You took me that time. 0:30:56.600 --> 0:30:58.520 Yeah, bro, I'm telling you to. 0:31:00.320 --> 0:31:03.680 Man. Yeah, I need the therapy. I'm gonna have to 0:31:03.680 --> 0:31:06.560 sit on the conc my cousin. 0:31:06.760 --> 0:31:12.200 This is because of that. We grew up down there 0:31:12.240 --> 0:31:14.040 in the same house. So I see you more than 0:31:14.160 --> 0:31:17.280 just on the every holiday. That's something every oh man, 0:31:17.520 --> 0:31:21.320 this dude gets some damn nerds. But anyway, let's digress. 0:31:22.960 --> 0:31:28.200 Looking at this game, how would you Blue, how would 0:31:28.200 --> 0:31:30.880 you defere Deavonte Smith to day J. 0:31:31.080 --> 0:31:34.560 Brown by going out and there what we did? 0:31:35.320 --> 0:31:41.240 When when you drafter, uh, Mike Sinstril, you have Forbes, 0:31:41.920 --> 0:31:45.080 you have Saint Juice, you have a lot of more. 0:31:45.800 --> 0:31:50.160 It's one, it's just sheer talent. And two, the pre 0:31:50.920 --> 0:31:55.360 and POSTNP reads for a quarterback when they have explosive players, 0:31:55.400 --> 0:31:58.800 it's critical. I don't think people understand how much that 0:31:59.000 --> 0:32:01.800 helps guys in the back end and shore a shirtain. 0:32:01.880 --> 0:32:05.640 Look, we talk about it all the time, so elaborate 0:32:05.720 --> 0:32:06.280 on pre snap. 0:32:07.880 --> 0:32:10.560 So the pre snap look is what the quarterback sees 0:32:10.640 --> 0:32:13.280 before the ball is snap. So seeing too high safeties, 0:32:14.160 --> 0:32:16.680 he now thinks could we could be in zone, but 0:32:16.960 --> 0:32:19.479 for some for some reason, he's probably gonna see it's 0:32:19.520 --> 0:32:21.440 two half of the two guys on half of the field. 0:32:21.560 --> 0:32:23.880 Right now, we know on post snap that can go 0:32:24.080 --> 0:32:26.840 down to a single one of the safeties can cover 0:32:26.960 --> 0:32:28.960 the tight end or whatever, and we can go man. 0:32:29.320 --> 0:32:32.280 But it doesn't automatically means that we're gonna be a 0:32:32.360 --> 0:32:33.840 man and they can just line up and say I'm 0:32:33.960 --> 0:32:36.600 go right here to the backside. So I think the 0:32:36.720 --> 0:32:40.000 pre and post snap unity and how they move together 0:32:40.000 --> 0:32:42.240 and how they play, it's gonna be critical, and it's 0:32:42.280 --> 0:32:45.040 gonna be we gotta get pressure on We don't have 0:32:45.080 --> 0:32:47.040 to get pressure on you. We can cover them, but 0:32:47.120 --> 0:32:49.720 we ain't gonna cover them all day. They're gonna make 0:32:49.760 --> 0:32:52.480 some place. And but the confidence that we bring with 0:32:52.600 --> 0:32:54.840 the secondary and the guys that we got in the secondary, 0:32:55.720 --> 0:32:58.600 that's why you go. That's why we get first round corners, 0:32:58.640 --> 0:33:01.520 That's why we get guys that that is just confident 0:33:01.560 --> 0:33:02.320 playing in the slot. 0:33:02.360 --> 0:33:04.120 And that's why we wanted we didn't free. 0:33:04.040 --> 0:33:08.680 Agency anybody kind of You can think about this this matchup, 0:33:09.400 --> 0:33:12.880 who you think gotta shot in this game? Who's gonna 0:33:12.880 --> 0:33:18.000 shine it of the ball. It doesn't offensive defensively well shine. 0:33:17.800 --> 0:33:20.160 Well, you know the thing that I love what I've 0:33:20.200 --> 0:33:20.640 been seeing. 0:33:21.000 --> 0:33:24.800 When you have a quarterback like what we have, you 0:33:24.920 --> 0:33:27.680 got a receiver that's very confident, you gotta you gotta 0:33:27.720 --> 0:33:31.120 receiver that did it with twelve other guys at that 0:33:31.280 --> 0:33:34.680 same position where it wasn't coming to him. Now he 0:33:34.800 --> 0:33:38.360 has a guy that he's building a whole chemistry with 0:33:38.720 --> 0:33:42.040 and he they understand each other, the team allowing him 0:33:42.080 --> 0:33:44.720 to be vocal enough to go out there. One of 0:33:44.760 --> 0:33:47.040 the things that I knew from watching Terry go up 0:33:47.040 --> 0:33:50.040 against the Eagles, the Eagles got a pretty nice, pretty 0:33:50.080 --> 0:33:53.520 piece of talent out there at Conaback. That's what he 0:33:53.800 --> 0:33:57.200 never played well against Terry. Terry always have his numbers. 0:33:57.240 --> 0:34:00.000 So just knowing what Terry had done with other guys 0:34:00.680 --> 0:34:03.920 like Heineke and you know, Alex and all those guys 0:34:04.000 --> 0:34:05.960 for him to go out there and be productive. And 0:34:06.040 --> 0:34:08.239 I can't say it's Alex name out dare As like 0:34:08.400 --> 0:34:11.680 he's a slouch either either one of those guys wasn't 0:34:11.760 --> 0:34:16.200 that you know Alex though he wasn't himself, but he's 0:34:16.200 --> 0:34:18.160 still he was shot when he played you know that 0:34:18.280 --> 0:34:21.160 one year when he came back, but I will say 0:34:21.560 --> 0:34:24.600 what he's done so far this year, man, I'm really 0:34:24.680 --> 0:34:27.920 looking forward to seeing Terry finish this season now, just 0:34:28.080 --> 0:34:30.880 knowing that what he's built, he's only gonna get. 0:34:30.719 --> 0:34:31.239 Better with it, you know. 0:34:31.280 --> 0:34:33.080 I mean, this is this is like scratching the surface 0:34:33.160 --> 0:34:36.279 right now, what him and Jayden Dames has built. And 0:34:36.360 --> 0:34:38.080 I know he's gonna be chopping at the bitch knowing 0:34:38.560 --> 0:34:40.759 that that boil cross the crossed away from him. 0:34:41.040 --> 0:34:43.080 I had nightmare es up. But I think he's gonna 0:34:43.080 --> 0:34:43.399 be the guy. 0:34:43.400 --> 0:34:45.839 I think offensively, he's gonna be a guy like I say, 0:34:45.920 --> 0:34:48.520 we can always say five because five is the guy, you. 0:34:48.520 --> 0:34:50.400 Know what I mean, But he's the guy for all us. 0:34:50.440 --> 0:34:50.880 And then. 0:34:52.920 --> 0:34:54.160 It's gonna be interesting too. Man. 0:34:54.200 --> 0:34:55.640 I think I offer is the line again. You know, 0:34:55.880 --> 0:34:59.440 I'm gonna mention them because they keep rising. You know, 0:34:59.600 --> 0:35:01.680 every time we get somebody in front of them that's 0:35:02.040 --> 0:35:04.160 supposed to be world beaters, they find a way to 0:35:04.320 --> 0:35:08.719 contest you together, form that vote, run and be hard 0:35:08.760 --> 0:35:10.880 to stop. And that's what we've been seeing for some 0:35:11.000 --> 0:35:11.640 of these games. 0:35:11.719 --> 0:35:11.879 Man. 0:35:12.160 --> 0:35:14.719 The only way we are productive offensively, the way we 0:35:14.800 --> 0:35:16.399 are is because of those guys up front. 0:35:16.440 --> 0:35:18.640 So you know, I'm looking for them to be stars 0:35:18.719 --> 0:35:19.279 that night Blue. 0:35:19.280 --> 0:35:19.839 Who are you thinking? 0:35:19.880 --> 0:35:24.479 Who you think they shining prime time? Man, It's gonna 0:35:24.520 --> 0:35:27.719 have to be the front getting after that Jaalen. Yeah, 0:35:28.680 --> 0:35:33.600 because as much as we talk about our guy Jalen Had, 0:35:33.719 --> 0:35:35.920 I mean he's since he's been in the league, and 0:35:35.960 --> 0:35:38.880 they had a tough stretch last year, but before I 0:35:38.920 --> 0:35:41.160 think he went on like a twelve or thirteen game 0:35:41.239 --> 0:35:43.520 win Street. So I think it's gonna have to be 0:35:43.560 --> 0:35:45.880 the guys up front. But Newton has been coming on 0:35:46.600 --> 0:35:52.080 the replacement with ja I mean, the guy's Fouler and Cleveland, 0:35:52.160 --> 0:35:53.200 all these guys gonna have. 0:35:53.200 --> 0:35:54.880 To get after him because he's the mobile quarterback. 0:35:55.080 --> 0:35:58.719 So we're almost playing a mirror image of kind of 0:35:59.520 --> 0:36:02.920 what they and and and and they're tough guys who 0:36:02.960 --> 0:36:03.799 can run and throw. 0:36:03.920 --> 0:36:06.160 Are a tough challenge for the D line, But for me, it's. 0:36:06.080 --> 0:36:06.560 The D line. 0:36:06.840 --> 0:36:10.200 I'll say the I'm gonna include the linebackers and I'm 0:36:10.400 --> 0:36:13.680 say the front seven because I think you gotta I'm 0:36:13.719 --> 0:36:18.080 taking away first and foremost, I'm taking away him, and 0:36:18.160 --> 0:36:20.799 I'm gonna force Jalen. 0:36:20.600 --> 0:36:23.160 Hurst to beat me. Now, he may be able to 0:36:23.400 --> 0:36:23.640 do that. 0:36:24.400 --> 0:36:29.320 But given picking my poison, so to speak, one dimensional, 0:36:29.440 --> 0:36:33.120 I'm making one dimension because one thing about Jalen he 0:36:33.200 --> 0:36:35.960 will give you opportunities. Yes, make interceptions on the ball 0:36:36.000 --> 0:36:38.239 and throw it up. I want to allow myself to 0:36:38.280 --> 0:36:42.640 put get pressure on the quarterback making make mistakes throwing 0:36:42.680 --> 0:36:48.080 the football. But I gotta start with stopping stopping sakuon Barkley. 0:36:49.200 --> 0:36:51.080 All right, fellas, and one of the guys who's gonna 0:36:51.120 --> 0:36:55.720 help and stop stoppingwon Barkley. It's gonna be Bobby Wagon 0:36:55.760 --> 0:36:58.480 and he's joining us later on in the show. 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Welcome 0:39:52.120 --> 0:39:55.840 back to the Players Club. As promised, we got future 0:39:55.880 --> 0:39:56.680 Hall of Famer. 0:39:56.560 --> 0:40:01.799 Future Gold Jacket, Bobby Yello, Bobby Bobby Yellowjacket. We got 0:40:01.880 --> 0:40:02.600 Bobby Wager. 0:40:02.920 --> 0:40:05.480 This is your ice Cold Player, brought to you by Pepsi, 0:40:05.640 --> 0:40:08.000 the official soft drink of the Washington Commanders. 0:40:08.160 --> 0:40:11.960 Bobby Mann. We appreciate you. Jordan's Jay so first time. 0:40:12.120 --> 0:40:14.279 You spent the majority of your career, with all of 0:40:14.320 --> 0:40:17.400 your career out on the West Coast, played for the 0:40:17.560 --> 0:40:20.680 Seahawks for a long period of time one year in LA. 0:40:21.520 --> 0:40:24.000 Came all the way across the country to the East coast. 0:40:25.080 --> 0:40:26.040 How has it been for you? 0:40:27.000 --> 0:40:29.959 It's been good man. I think the fans have been great. 0:40:30.120 --> 0:40:33.000 There's been a lot of love. I said, I think 0:40:33.080 --> 0:40:36.120 the hardest part is like trying to watch a basketball 0:40:36.160 --> 0:40:39.000 game or trying to watch any sports at night because 0:40:39.280 --> 0:40:41.520 everything comes on at like ten thirty or midnight. So 0:40:41.600 --> 0:40:43.960 that's been the biggest judgment. Outside of that, it's been 0:40:44.040 --> 0:40:45.719 loved like DQ's made it real cool for. 0:40:45.960 --> 0:40:49.440 You've mentioned your off camera you said you're a Lakers 0:40:49.480 --> 0:40:51.759 fans fan. So you got a chance the other night 0:40:51.840 --> 0:40:54.440 to go to the game with Jade and bark Eye, 0:40:54.480 --> 0:40:57.080 one of the owners, and also Jade's mom. 0:40:58.200 --> 0:41:00.800 What was it like being was that your first that 0:41:00.960 --> 0:41:01.799 my first Worchards game? 0:41:01.840 --> 0:41:02.120 What was that? 0:41:02.200 --> 0:41:03.080 What was that experience like? 0:41:03.160 --> 0:41:03.239 Now? 0:41:03.320 --> 0:41:03.719 It was cool. 0:41:04.239 --> 0:41:06.040 It was cool seeing everybody out there. I didn't realize 0:41:06.040 --> 0:41:10.640 how tall everybody was, you know, like everybody like seven 0:41:10.719 --> 0:41:12.600 foot like I thought. I thought Steph was like my 0:41:12.719 --> 0:41:16.360 highest sixty four. Yeah, he looked small standing next to 0:41:16.400 --> 0:41:18.960 everybody else, but uh now it was cool watching those 0:41:19.000 --> 0:41:21.160 young guys play, and they kept up with him for 0:41:21.160 --> 0:41:21.560 a little bit. 0:41:21.600 --> 0:41:23.960 But you know, Golden State showed their maturity. 0:41:24.239 --> 0:41:26.920 Speaking of you know, you just spoke about Dan a 0:41:27.000 --> 0:41:30.120 minute ago, seeing how he made everything easy. What was 0:41:30.200 --> 0:41:31.719 it like knowing that she was going to be a 0:41:31.800 --> 0:41:34.919 part of a team that structured by Dan Quinn? 0:41:34.960 --> 0:41:35.200 Again? 0:41:35.239 --> 0:41:37.360 I remember, you know, last year seeing you in Seattle, 0:41:37.440 --> 0:41:39.560 seemed like you went back home and you was happy 0:41:39.600 --> 0:41:40.160 and comfortable. 0:41:40.320 --> 0:41:42.480 But a year later you back with a guy who 0:41:42.960 --> 0:41:43.919 meant a lot to your career. 0:41:44.719 --> 0:41:47.399 Yeah, I think you know, there's a lot of similarities 0:41:47.760 --> 0:41:50.560 between how Pete kind of run it and how DQ 0:41:50.719 --> 0:41:53.839 run it. But DQ, I definitely feel over Thomas has 0:41:54.480 --> 0:41:56.920 found his voice, found how he wanted to do things, 0:41:57.080 --> 0:42:00.799 and between him and coach Norton, like they've they've made 0:42:00.840 --> 0:42:03.400 this transition smooth just because we've been around each other 0:42:03.440 --> 0:42:05.759 for a long time. I think North coach me at 0:42:05.840 --> 0:42:09.239 least I think nine out of my thirteen years, and 0:42:09.360 --> 0:42:11.000 so I've been around him for a while and DQ 0:42:11.400 --> 0:42:13.800 we've always been in touch, So it's kind of like 0:42:14.160 --> 0:42:16.320 you know, in a way coming back home with family. 0:42:16.320 --> 0:42:16.680 You know what I mean. 0:42:16.719 --> 0:42:18.440 I've been around it for a minute, So they know 0:42:18.520 --> 0:42:19.320 what to expect from you. 0:42:19.400 --> 0:42:21.279 They know what to expect. I know what's expect from them. 0:42:22.200 --> 0:42:25.080 The communication is fluid, like we know how to talk 0:42:25.120 --> 0:42:27.239 to one another, we know how to get each other going. 0:42:27.360 --> 0:42:28.160 So it's cool. 0:42:28.560 --> 0:42:31.080 So one of the things that when I first I 0:42:31.200 --> 0:42:33.480 first seen you in Seattle when I went back, and 0:42:33.600 --> 0:42:35.440 one of the first things, even as a rookie, the 0:42:35.440 --> 0:42:37.960 first thing everybody in the organizations talk about, like this 0:42:38.120 --> 0:42:39.600 dude gets he's a professional. 0:42:40.320 --> 0:42:43.759 Like how does that happen where you're rook in the league. 0:42:44.080 --> 0:42:46.279 What was the mentality like coming into the league that 0:42:46.400 --> 0:42:49.960 this guy's prepares, he's a professional, he studies, he does everything. 0:42:50.280 --> 0:42:52.080 Man, I just been you know, I watched the game. 0:42:52.160 --> 0:42:52.279 Man. 0:42:52.440 --> 0:42:54.120 So when I when I first got it here as 0:42:54.160 --> 0:42:57.080 a rookie, I knew what it meant to be a rookie. 0:42:57.160 --> 0:42:58.880 Like I knew I had to like pay my dues. 0:42:58.920 --> 0:43:00.840 I knew I had to, you know, do all the 0:43:00.920 --> 0:43:03.400 running around for the vest, but also like learn from them. 0:43:03.520 --> 0:43:06.080 Like a lot of times I feel like sometimes people 0:43:06.160 --> 0:43:08.520 come in and they think they know everything right, and 0:43:08.600 --> 0:43:10.360 it's like this is a new experience. Like when I 0:43:10.400 --> 0:43:12.440 came in, I kind of considered myself like a freshman 0:43:12.920 --> 0:43:15.000 type of jail, and I had a bunch of seniors 0:43:15.080 --> 0:43:17.600 that was trying to teach me the way, and the 0:43:17.680 --> 0:43:19.840 people that grew the fastest was the ones that be 0:43:19.920 --> 0:43:20.600 quiet and learned. 0:43:20.640 --> 0:43:21.480 So I just try to do that. 0:43:22.360 --> 0:43:25.160 I'm glad you brought up, you know, being a student 0:43:25.200 --> 0:43:25.640 of the game. 0:43:26.040 --> 0:43:28.160 And I've shared this story a couple of times about 0:43:28.719 --> 0:43:31.759 how you reached out to me on social media back 0:43:31.840 --> 0:43:34.600 when I think it was about two twenty fourteen, I 0:43:34.800 --> 0:43:37.600 was retired. You reached out to me, didn't We hadn't 0:43:37.600 --> 0:43:39.920 talked to each other prior to that, didn't know each other. 0:43:40.440 --> 0:43:42.160 You reach out to me just like, hey man, love 0:43:42.239 --> 0:43:43.799 that love it? You know, pick your brain. 0:43:44.120 --> 0:43:47.120 Yeah, you know about the middle lineback position. I also 0:43:47.280 --> 0:43:49.880 know other people in the business world. They've told me 0:43:49.920 --> 0:43:54.239 you've contacted them like cold calls. You also contact the 0:43:54.320 --> 0:43:56.960 other former NFL linebackers. 0:43:57.400 --> 0:43:57.880 What did that? 0:43:58.160 --> 0:43:58.200 Like? 0:44:00.160 --> 0:44:02.560 Self? Where with self? Where does this come from? And 0:44:02.680 --> 0:44:04.759 be like, man, you know what, let me tap into 0:44:04.840 --> 0:44:07.600 these people who are doing things that I want to do. 0:44:07.760 --> 0:44:08.839 And do it at a higher level. 0:44:09.920 --> 0:44:13.680 H Honestly, I don't know. I think maybe I got 0:44:13.719 --> 0:44:15.520 it from like Kobe or something. I think I heard 0:44:15.560 --> 0:44:18.480 read a story where Kobe would like co call people yeah, 0:44:18.800 --> 0:44:21.279 and you know, my mind said is like the worst 0:44:21.280 --> 0:44:23.319 thing you do is say no, Like, you know, if 0:44:23.360 --> 0:44:25.560 I reach out and you know, you want to show love, 0:44:25.680 --> 0:44:29.080 then I get information. If I don't, then I don't. 0:44:29.160 --> 0:44:31.400 But like you'll never know unless you ask. And so 0:44:32.120 --> 0:44:33.440 I think that's kind of where that came. I know 0:44:33.520 --> 0:44:35.719 for sure the business side came from, like stuff that 0:44:35.920 --> 0:44:38.560 I've heard Kobe do. But you know, football wise, is 0:44:38.600 --> 0:44:40.239 just like I've been a fan of the game and 0:44:40.320 --> 0:44:42.200 I know who who is great, and I know the 0:44:42.280 --> 0:44:44.759 people that played this game at a high level for 0:44:44.800 --> 0:44:47.440 a long time, and like why not try to, you know, 0:44:47.600 --> 0:44:50.680 reach out there, reach out and learn again. Like I said, 0:44:50.760 --> 0:44:52.719 the worst case is going to be like either don't 0:44:52.760 --> 0:44:54.840 respond or be like I ain't got the time. But 0:44:54.880 --> 0:44:59.000 at least at least they know I'm out there. So 0:44:59.120 --> 0:45:00.640 that's that's kind of where that came from. Just wanting 0:45:00.640 --> 0:45:02.640 to continue, you know, being a student of the game. 0:45:02.719 --> 0:45:04.960 Speaking of being a student of the game, I'm not 0:45:05.040 --> 0:45:07.680 sure if I heard right, but I think someone mentioned 0:45:07.719 --> 0:45:09.600 that you're back in school too. 0:45:09.960 --> 0:45:10.600 While you're down here. 0:45:10.640 --> 0:45:13.680 Think about that. Yeah, you and Howard, I mean, Howard, how. 0:45:13.800 --> 0:45:16.960 How was that juggling school and playing, you know, this 0:45:17.080 --> 0:45:18.799 first season here in d c Uh. 0:45:18.960 --> 0:45:21.640 It's funny because I always used to complain about having 0:45:21.680 --> 0:45:23.640 the you know, it was in college, like having the 0:45:23.719 --> 0:45:26.920 balance you know, uh, school work in football, and then 0:45:27.120 --> 0:45:29.080 I'm in the league and I volunteer to. 0:45:29.080 --> 0:45:30.520 Go you know what I'm saying. 0:45:30.640 --> 0:45:33.160 But it's cool. I mean, you know, a lot of 0:45:33.200 --> 0:45:34.600 it is just reading the numbers. I do that all 0:45:34.640 --> 0:45:37.680 the time. You know, it's more of a structured version 0:45:37.760 --> 0:45:39.440 of it. So that's kind how I look at it. 0:45:39.600 --> 0:45:41.759 I feel like I'm I'm good with balancing my time 0:45:41.880 --> 0:45:44.799 and and this is just like continue my learning. 0:45:44.800 --> 0:45:46.440 That's all it is. I don't think it, you know, 0:45:46.480 --> 0:45:46.719 I had. 0:45:46.719 --> 0:45:47.920 The only thing I had to get used to is 0:45:48.000 --> 0:45:49.719 like testing, you know what I mean, Like they just 0:45:49.800 --> 0:45:53.320 try to trick you know, never straightforward, you know. 0:45:53.520 --> 0:45:55.520 So outside of that has been Little. 0:45:56.040 --> 0:45:56.840 Legion and Boom. 0:45:57.000 --> 0:45:59.360 Obviously, you played on one of the greatest defenses with 0:45:59.480 --> 0:46:02.160 some status, right, so we get a lot of more 0:46:02.200 --> 0:46:06.160 and adding to defense that's getting better. Yeah, you know 0:46:07.000 --> 0:46:08.920 that was a great defense that you played on. What 0:46:09.000 --> 0:46:10.920 do you what are some of the similarities that you 0:46:10.960 --> 0:46:12.319 see with this Washington team? 0:46:12.480 --> 0:46:13.359 How we get there? 0:46:13.400 --> 0:46:16.759 How could we be like a dominant defense like Legion Boom, 0:46:16.760 --> 0:46:18.680 Because remember, y'all all were young when y'all first started. 0:46:19.760 --> 0:46:22.279 I think I think the thing that made us so 0:46:22.360 --> 0:46:24.719 special was that we were young, and so when we 0:46:24.800 --> 0:46:28.360 came into when we came into the league, like it 0:46:28.480 --> 0:46:29.600 was almost like college again. 0:46:29.719 --> 0:46:30.319 You know what I'm saying. 0:46:30.480 --> 0:46:33.719 It was when we got done playing, done practicing, we 0:46:33.880 --> 0:46:36.440 just stayed at the stay at the facility, or we 0:46:36.560 --> 0:46:38.160 was like, hey let's go get some food or let's 0:46:38.160 --> 0:46:40.560 play the game or something. We just spent so much 0:46:40.560 --> 0:46:44.160 time together that were just connected and that connection got 0:46:44.200 --> 0:46:47.640 brought on the field. So you know, yes, brother, you 0:46:47.680 --> 0:46:49.520 know what I mean. So it's like, you know, you 0:46:49.640 --> 0:46:51.279 in Cover three and maybe you should have this and 0:46:51.320 --> 0:46:53.040 certainly like, hey go take a chance on that. Like 0:46:53.120 --> 0:46:54.800 I got your back and you're like, all right, you 0:46:55.600 --> 0:46:57.439 do that enough time to where like you ain't gotta 0:46:57.440 --> 0:47:00.239 say I just look at you. And so for me, 0:47:00.320 --> 0:47:03.000 I would say the comparison is that the connection. I 0:47:03.080 --> 0:47:06.000 think a lot of the guys here we're really connected 0:47:06.040 --> 0:47:08.920 like off the field, and I think that's what, you know, 0:47:09.640 --> 0:47:11.680 makes us believe that we can get there if we 0:47:11.800 --> 0:47:14.680 just keep going at it because we have the connection 0:47:14.840 --> 0:47:16.880 that you would need to be a good defense and 0:47:16.960 --> 0:47:19.000 so it's just really just growing on that. 0:47:19.760 --> 0:47:22.239 I had an opportunity in my career. I played with 0:47:22.280 --> 0:47:26.800 some excellent linebackers. My favorite teammate, best other linebacker I 0:47:26.880 --> 0:47:29.480 played with was to kill spikes. We're both from Buffalo together, 0:47:29.560 --> 0:47:33.160 and it would be times before the ball was snapped. 0:47:33.680 --> 0:47:35.840 Yeah we know, like this high is drawn up, but 0:47:36.080 --> 0:47:38.920 key do this. I got you, I got you back whatever. 0:47:39.360 --> 0:47:41.839 You and Frankie, y'all both came in here together this year. 0:47:42.600 --> 0:47:45.279 Y'all been out there ball and that job if you 0:47:45.400 --> 0:47:47.439 and have been able to have that build that type 0:47:47.440 --> 0:47:49.800 of chemistry where y'all y'all playing off each other. And 0:47:50.080 --> 0:47:52.680 what is it like playing playing with a guy like frank. 0:47:52.480 --> 0:47:53.840 I mean, it's exactly like that. 0:47:54.000 --> 0:47:57.120 I think one we knew each other because he used 0:47:57.120 --> 0:47:59.520 to work out in Seattle at the same spot we 0:47:59.560 --> 0:48:01.400 worked out, so we knew of each other. But then 0:48:01.440 --> 0:48:04.120 he started playing on the East Coast, so I didn't 0:48:04.120 --> 0:48:05.960 we see him as much, but then when we came here, 0:48:06.000 --> 0:48:08.080 it was just like dang, like we've always wanted to 0:48:08.120 --> 0:48:10.040 do this, Now we get to do it. And it 0:48:10.160 --> 0:48:13.520 was just again just like the open communication off the field. 0:48:13.560 --> 0:48:15.440 We'd be out there and it's like, hey, what you think. 0:48:15.480 --> 0:48:16.319 I think we can make a play. 0:48:16.360 --> 0:48:16.919 You know what I'm saying. 0:48:17.719 --> 0:48:19.719 And it's the trust, Like you, we trust one another 0:48:19.800 --> 0:48:21.680 and we believe and we put in the work. You know, 0:48:21.760 --> 0:48:24.720 we study the film. It's not like we're just guessing, 0:48:24.840 --> 0:48:27.200 like we know what's coming. And so it's been great 0:48:27.280 --> 0:48:27.759 playing with him. 0:48:28.320 --> 0:48:29.400 One of the you know, you know one of the 0:48:29.480 --> 0:48:32.080 things I saw, you know, saw from day one. I 0:48:32.280 --> 0:48:35.200 was just going through your little bio and I was like, man, 0:48:35.360 --> 0:48:37.759 you was on that twenty twelve team that played us 0:48:37.800 --> 0:48:40.160 in the playoffs that we lost RG three. 0:48:40.520 --> 0:48:41.040 You know what I mean? 0:48:41.320 --> 0:48:44.160 Yeah, bring up old Yeah he's still talking about. 0:48:43.960 --> 0:48:47.320 It, but I remember you was a vocal like you 0:48:47.440 --> 0:48:50.279 was a guy that we checked on, be mindful where 0:48:50.320 --> 0:48:51.560 he at, you know what I mean. So just to 0:48:51.640 --> 0:48:53.680 know that you were young and now this is what 0:48:53.840 --> 0:48:56.120 you're thirteen You say thirteen, you're thirteen I got to 0:48:56.160 --> 0:49:00.920 play fourteen thirteen thirteen, so just to see where we 0:49:01.120 --> 0:49:04.279 was at. And I remember how I felt, I'm watching you. 0:49:04.360 --> 0:49:06.800 You don't look no different from the guys saw twenty twelve. 0:49:06.840 --> 0:49:08.800 What was that and what is that process like for you? 0:49:09.040 --> 0:49:09.080 Like? 0:49:09.200 --> 0:49:12.239 How are you able to maintain you know? I guess 0:49:12.440 --> 0:49:14.759 you know your do ability to be able to go 0:49:14.840 --> 0:49:15.200 out there and. 0:49:15.239 --> 0:49:16.279 Bang what you do? 0:49:16.840 --> 0:49:17.160 I think. 0:49:18.040 --> 0:49:19.960 I think as you get older, you just know that 0:49:20.280 --> 0:49:23.040 like when you were younger, you might could take some 0:49:23.160 --> 0:49:27.040 breaks and you be fine. You get older, like whenever 0:49:27.160 --> 0:49:30.440 the season ends, I don't stop, I go to something else, 0:49:30.440 --> 0:49:32.920 I start working out again. Because the moment the longer 0:49:33.000 --> 0:49:35.319 you stop working out, the harder it is to get 0:49:35.360 --> 0:49:37.360 back in shape. So I just figure it's a lifestyle. 0:49:37.480 --> 0:49:40.840 I'm not getting out of shape. And between like my eating, 0:49:41.239 --> 0:49:43.640 I do a lot of yoga. I just take the 0:49:43.719 --> 0:49:45.560 time to try to take care of my body. I 0:49:45.600 --> 0:49:48.719 think that's the biggest thing is is especially now as 0:49:48.760 --> 0:49:51.840 a season gets into the holidays where you got his 0:49:51.960 --> 0:49:53.520 givings and the families. 0:49:53.120 --> 0:49:54.320 And the Christmases. 0:49:54.360 --> 0:49:55.839 A lot of times guys be like, all right, well 0:49:56.080 --> 0:49:57.880 I'm gonna spend time with my family, and they stopped 0:49:57.920 --> 0:49:59.279 doing and some of the things that they was doing. 0:49:59.400 --> 0:50:01.920 So I just be trying to be consistent, and I 0:50:02.000 --> 0:50:03.920 feel like that's that's what's helped me. I do the 0:50:04.000 --> 0:50:05.479 same things, I eat the same things all. 0:50:05.400 --> 0:50:09.239 The time, many playing at a very high level and 0:50:09.360 --> 0:50:09.960 nothing changed. 0:50:12.040 --> 0:50:13.080 Uh, it's gonna be it. 0:50:13.239 --> 0:50:13.399 Man. 0:50:13.440 --> 0:50:16.200 I was watching so obviously I call the game. 0:50:16.280 --> 0:50:19.439 Santas Tanner does the pre and post game, and I'll 0:50:19.480 --> 0:50:23.600 go back and I might watch rewatch the game two 0:50:23.719 --> 0:50:26.840 or three times, and I'm looking at you and I'm like, damn, 0:50:27.600 --> 0:50:30.200 you make some plays like how the hell did he 0:50:30.320 --> 0:50:32.440 slip that lineman and make this tackle? 0:50:32.880 --> 0:50:35.320 Like I'm look, you look like you out a position, 0:50:35.440 --> 0:50:37.080 like you're not gonna be able to do it. I'm 0:50:37.120 --> 0:50:39.200 marvel at you, man, And I know I know you 0:50:39.520 --> 0:50:42.040 you dipping at my butt on some of my records, 0:50:44.600 --> 0:50:47.200 Like I'm trying you know when. I like that because 0:50:47.239 --> 0:50:48.280 that'll keep me relevant. 0:50:48.600 --> 0:50:51.080 Come on, man, and I make sure I do my part. Yeah, 0:50:51.239 --> 0:50:52.000 I appreciate it that. 0:50:52.640 --> 0:50:55.120 We appreciate you coming on and joining us. We have 0:50:55.280 --> 0:50:57.440 all our guests signing this football fors man. If you 0:50:57.440 --> 0:51:00.279 wouldn't mind doing that, man, we can't wait to see 0:51:00.320 --> 0:51:02.160 you can see what the rest of the season brings 0:51:02.239 --> 0:51:05.319 for not just you, but this team as a whole. 0:51:06.320 --> 0:51:08.360 We got him walking many all right, So. 0:51:08.440 --> 0:51:11.279 That'll do it. Another dish at the Players Club. 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