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Speaker 1: Hello, everybody, Welcome into the cycle. I'm Ryan Warmley, joined

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Speaker 1: as always by Mike Mayer. We are talking a whole

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Speaker 1: bunch of stuff today on rounding the bass. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: talk a little chase Birds. We're gotsually gonna talk a

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Speaker 1: lot of rookies here as we do a little bit

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Speaker 1: of a second half buy or sell, and you're just

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Speaker 1: warning to everybody there's way too many rookies, so we

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Speaker 1: are not talking about all of them, because otherwise we'd

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Speaker 1: be here for about seven hours, So we're going through that.

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Speaker 1: We'll be talking some news notes and injuries, some unfortunate

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Speaker 1: ones there for us, particularly for many of my fantasy teams,

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Speaker 1: some unfortunate injury updates. And then I also wanted to

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Speaker 1: take some time to talk a little bit about cal

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Speaker 1: Raley just because he's awesome and I don't think we

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Speaker 1: talk enough about him on the show, and what he's

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Speaker 1: doing so far this year is So that's kind of

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Speaker 1: what we have on the docket here.

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Speaker 2: Mayor. This is our last.

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Speaker 1: Show in June. So we are like halfway through the

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Speaker 1: baseball season. How are you feeling at the midway point.

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Speaker 3: I think we're almost exactly halfway through the baseball season.

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Speaker 3: I think y're close to exactly a couple of teams

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Speaker 3: already at eighty one, and you know a few others

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Speaker 3: will hit it obviously this weekend, and I will just say,

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Speaker 3: I'm willing to do seven hours. If you're willing to

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Speaker 3: do seven hours and talk about all these rookies, we

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Speaker 3: can do it. Production might not be happy, but we can.

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Speaker 1: Don't tap me with a good time. How are your

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Speaker 1: teams doing?

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Speaker 2: Here? Kind of halfway point?

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm not sure how many leagues are in actually,

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Speaker 1: but of the leagues are in that you can recall

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Speaker 1: off the top of your head, how are they performing.

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Speaker 3: I'm in like nine leagues. I think it's kind of

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Speaker 3: been the same answer for me the last month or so.

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Speaker 3: I'm I'm in a couple of rota leagues where I'm

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Speaker 3: just doing atrocious, and then pretty much all of my

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Speaker 3: head to head leagues I'm doing fairly well. I'm like,

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Speaker 3: I mean, obviously the one keepers slash Dynasty league with

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Speaker 3: I'm in another dynasty league where I did not expect

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Speaker 3: to do that. Well, this year, I thought I would

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Speaker 3: in the playoffs. And I'm like comfortably in first place.

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Speaker 3: And I don't understand how, because i just keep looking

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Speaker 3: at this roster and I'm like, I shouldn't be this good,

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Speaker 3: but you know, I'll take it. It's kind of the

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Speaker 3: draft the team and you're like, this team is great

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Speaker 3: and then it doesn't go well. I'm kind of doing

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Speaker 3: the opposite in that league, so calling them all over

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Speaker 3: the place. But you know, when you're in enough leagues,

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Speaker 3: some are going to be bad. Some we're gonna be good, hopefully,

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Speaker 3: and so I have enough good to keep me happy

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I dialed back my fantasy leagues this year, so

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Speaker 1: I'm only in four. I just felt like that was

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Speaker 2: One of them.

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Speaker 1: My team is like the best team I've ever had

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Speaker 1: One of the other weeks I've been we're about to

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Speaker 1: spot in that one, the Dynasty League with you My

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Speaker 1: team is very good, definitely a contender, but not the

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Speaker 2: See how we do in the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: But then the other one is the one with Dan

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Speaker 1: it's just I've completely fallen off. I'm in like, you know,

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Speaker 3: So that hasn't been very You're done, You're down here,

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Speaker 2: And yeah, I'm better than you, and Kelly thinks.

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Speaker 3: You're better than me.

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Speaker 2: But for now, for now, yeah, now.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's shove into the first topic here, which

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Speaker 1: is Chase Burns. Like this is a couple of days ago,

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Speaker 1: but I you know, it was very fun watching him

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Speaker 1: You are somebody who has Chase Burns in a lot

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Speaker 2: So that worked out very well for me.

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Speaker 1: I've had a lot of bad calls in the waivers

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Speaker 1: He ultimately ended up allowing some more runs after that,

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Speaker 2: Just really, really good.

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Speaker 1: There's a reason he was the top pitching prospect in baseball.

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Speaker 1: A lot of his minor league stats looked like relatively

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Speaker 1: saying he is skiings, but this was as a lead

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Speaker 1: That's how good he looked. I am buying into the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of the same stuff. You know. It

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Speaker 3: was I was kind of hoping that he would debut

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Speaker 3: he came out and like did not look afraid, like

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Speaker 3: you said, struck out the first five people, five batters

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Speaker 3: really high, aggressive slider that looked really good and was

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Speaker 3: we can see more of that and kind of like

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Speaker 3: following a very similar trajectory where the Pirates drafted Paul Skeens.

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Speaker 3: And then a lot of times when you see a player,

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Speaker 3: They're like Melvisie in next year. The Reds did the

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Speaker 3: same thing with Chase Burns. He did not he was

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Speaker 3: drafted in the first round last year, did not pitch

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Speaker 3: And again similar to Paul Skeens, where he you know,

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Speaker 3: we saw his his innings limited, but the innings that

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Speaker 1: If he finishes the second half, let's say at seventy

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Speaker 1: five percent of the production that you saw from Paul

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Speaker 1: Skins a year ago, because like, I don't want to

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Speaker 1: say he's going to be Paul Skins in the second half.

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Speaker 1: That's like putting way too much on anybody. But let's

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Speaker 1: say he's like seventy five percent of that. Where do

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Speaker 1: you think you'll be ranking Burns and your starting pitcher

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Speaker 3: Ooh, that's interesting next season. So this season I already

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Speaker 3: moved him up pretty aggressively into.

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Speaker 1: I was going to ask about this season too, But

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Speaker 1: I'm curious what we think of him when we get

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Speaker 1: to the point where we're not expecting an ings limit.

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Speaker 3: I mean assuming, Like so you're saying, like seventy five

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, I'm saying he's very good in the second half,

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Speaker 1: but he's not like, holy cow, this is the new

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think the top of the sp market

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Speaker 3: like a Cole Reagan's. I think there's some question marks.

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Speaker 3: Now I don't know that Zach Gowen was in that

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Speaker 3: Now he does not look very good school. I'm basically

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Speaker 3: taking the long road to saying I think there's a

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Speaker 3: really good chance he's an sp one going in the

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Speaker 3: next year. No, I don't think. I don't see him

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Speaker 3: overtaking Scooble schemes, Crochet Wheeler, Yamamoto, assuming they all stay healthy,

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Speaker 3: of course. Sure, and then you know there's like that

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Speaker 3: like he's going to be a locked in sp one

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Speaker 3: like Logan web Logan, Gilbert Michael King. I feel Jaspern's

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Speaker 1: Right to where is he the rest of the season

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Speaker 1: now for this year, knowing the kind of limited innings, I.

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Speaker 3: Just ad updated my rankings the other day, so I

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Speaker 3: have him thirty six, which is it's kind of putting

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Speaker 3: and I you know, I reserved the right to move

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Speaker 1: few innings. We're very similar to Steven Strasburg's debut against

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Speaker 1: the Pirates, you know, fifteen years ago, and I like

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Speaker 1: remember watching that. I actually had tickets to go to

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Speaker 1: that story on the show before.

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Speaker 2: Hugely, hugely annoying to me.

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Speaker 1: Didn't finish the same way that Strasburg's out against the

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Speaker 1: Pirates did, but that start, I think that is actually

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Speaker 1: a pretty similar experience to Holy Cow. Like we knew

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Speaker 1: Is there anybody I could offer in our Dynasty league

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Speaker 3: I mean probably, Let's see. So I actually updated my

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Speaker 3: But I also tried to put myself like, you can't

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Speaker 3: they're like a young top pitching prospect. But yeah, I

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Speaker 3: also try to like think realistically in these leagues, like

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Speaker 3: if I have Chase Burns. What is it going to

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Speaker 3: take to get him from me? And it's gonna take

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Speaker 3: Paul Skins, Schooble, Crochet, Logan, Gilbert Yamamoto like, and here's

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Speaker 3: an interesting what about Spencer Strider? Like, are you down

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Speaker 3: enough on Spencer Striyder that you're willing to flip like

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Speaker 3: in Dynasty Burns given the arm history with Stryder.

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Speaker 2: Good one.

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Speaker 1: Actually, I don't know. I don't know how I would

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Speaker 3: I technically still have Strider ahead of Burns, but like,

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Speaker 3: that's how aggressively I moved Burns up.

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Speaker 1: My initial reaction to that is Stryder I would rather have.

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Speaker 1: But I think I think Burns is good enough that

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Speaker 3: So here, this isn't our next segment, so it's not

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Speaker 3: a perfect segue. But I just I flipped over into

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Speaker 3: to my overall rankings, and I have, based on how

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Speaker 3: it grades out, I have him at fifty six overall,

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Speaker 3: which could even be a little bit higher. Number fifty five.

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Speaker 2: Cal Raley Interesting, Yeah, well, we'll get to cal Raleigh

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Speaker 2: a little bit later.

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Speaker 1: We've got some rookies coming up before that, and Chase

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Speaker 1: Burns obviously among that group.

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Speaker 1: buy Er Sell Rookie Edition. We simply cannot go through

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Speaker 1: every rookie in baseball because you and I like to

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Speaker 1: way that we could make it.

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Speaker 2: The all of them.

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Speaker 1: And even we wrote down eighteen names, and then you

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Speaker 1: were telling me that as you were was it watching

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Speaker 1: something you were like, there was even more names we

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Speaker 1: gone on and on, there's just a ton of them.

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Speaker 1: In baseball right now, or at least some of them

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Speaker 1: some of the mentions of the names that we're not

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Speaker 1: going to have time to really dive into on this segment.

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Speaker 1: Chase Burns, So we obviously just talked about and I

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Speaker 1: think clearly both of us are buying Christian Campbell, Chandler Simpson,

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Speaker 1: who's back in the in the big leagues, Roman Anthony,

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Speaker 1: Jacob Wilson, Dylan Cruz, Brady House, Marcella Meyer, Kobe Mayo,

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Speaker 1: Matt Shaw, Chase Mydraf. I think these are for different

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Speaker 1: we pretty much know what to expect from a guy

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Speaker 1: like Chandler Simpson when he's in the big leagues is

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Speaker 1: a lot of stolen bases, you know, reasonable average, no

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Speaker 1: You know, we're gonna be talking about a guy like

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Speaker 1: Roman Anthony a little bit later in today's show. You know,

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Speaker 1: some of these like Kobe Mayo, like I think it's

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Speaker 1: pretty Jacob Wilson the opposite, right, Like we're all pretty

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Speaker 2: Two guys that we.

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Speaker 1: Do want to talk about, Jack Kaglione and Nick Kurtz.

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Speaker 1: Kind of looping them together with the first base stuff.

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Speaker 1: Kurtz obviously has been on my heater lately. Kaglione had

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Speaker 1: who went very high in the draft, both top six picks.

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Speaker 2: Was the top four picks I forget we.

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Speaker 3: Know Kaglione was six, so Kurtz was four?

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Four? Okay?

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Speaker 1: Are these guys players that you were buying our salag

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Speaker 1: specifically for obviously in Dynasty we like all these guys,

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Speaker 1: but specifically for the second half of this season. Well,

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Speaker 1: actually we put it like this, if you had to

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Speaker 2: You separate them?

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Speaker 3: That makes it harder because I thought it would.

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Speaker 2: That's why I changed.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, are you buying Yes, I'm buying both of them.

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Speaker 3: That makes it harder. I think I would have to

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Speaker 3: buy Kurtz more just because he's done more and he's

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Speaker 3: shown more, and he you know, he's hit eleven home

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Speaker 3: you said, he's heating up Kagali, and I do think

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Speaker 3: he's expected batting average is two ninety two. It's over

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Speaker 3: good He doesn't have high strikeout numbers. He does put

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Speaker 3: Both have incredibly incredible raw power. I think both have

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Speaker 1: Kurt Kurtz feels like you'd have to pick him between

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Speaker 1: Like you said, Caglione, if you're picking him, it's a

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Speaker 1: we've actually seen some bad luck early on. I mean,

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I would.

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Speaker 1: Agree with you, like I'd rather have Kurts, of course,

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Speaker 1: but I'm willing to buy into both. Are you like

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Speaker 2: Are you actually looking to like buy these.

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Speaker 3: I would look to buy especially looking like if you

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Speaker 3: it comes down to roster construction, you know, especially in RODO,

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Speaker 3: write them up as a buy low candidate this week,

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Speaker 3: but I considered buying up Jack writing up Jack Kgaloon

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Speaker 3: I would definitely go out and buy these guys, because

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Speaker 3: I think you are going to get double digit home

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Speaker 3: If not, you know, double digit and then some not

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Speaker 3: triple digit. I'm gonna get triple digit home.

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Speaker 2: Runs, Yeah, no, you will not.

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Speaker 1: Another player that I want to talk about who's got

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Speaker 1: some power Christian Moore second Basement for the Angels. Somebody

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Speaker 1: played thirteen games, forty at bats. He does have three

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Speaker 1: He had a two home run game earlier this week,

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Speaker 1: so perhaps a sign of, you know, kind of some

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Speaker 1: but in a in a rodeo category format, is he

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Speaker 1: second base in the second half, I.

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Speaker 3: Think there's a lot of swing and missing that profile

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Speaker 3: as evidenced by the strike cut numbers that you mentioned,

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Speaker 3: and that that's whycout number is almost thirty eight percent. Like,

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Speaker 3: there is a lot of swing and missing that profile,

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Speaker 3: and I think the bating average is going to struggle

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Speaker 3: I am less bullish on him than I am on

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Speaker 3: you know, the two players we just mentioned. Also, maybe

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Speaker 3: I'm just like misremembering, but we're talking. We're like so far,

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Speaker 3: we're talking about a ton of players that were drafted

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Speaker 3: already in the in the majors and contributing. Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: it's more likely he's, like you said, he might get

436
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Speaker 3: a long leash, but I think it's more more likely

437
00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:04,760
Speaker 3: for him that he's going to go back down and

438
00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:07,520
Speaker 3: need some more time. But then again, the Angel probably

439
00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:09,399
Speaker 3: won't have anything to play for the second half, so

440
00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:13,080
Speaker 3: unless they play you know, service time games, they should

441
00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:15,080
Speaker 3: just let him, you know, let him learn at the

442
00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:15,600
Speaker 3: big leagues.

443
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Speaker 1: For what it's worth, his expected adding average is about

444
00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:22,680
Speaker 1: forty spots forty points higher than his current adding average.

445
00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:26,080
Speaker 1: It's still quite low still, two fourteen. Yeah, but that's

446
00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:27,280
Speaker 1: better than one seventy five.

447
00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:28,480
Speaker 2: Just just to highlight it.

448
00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:33,639
Speaker 1: I think that he is I will not be surprised

449
00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:38,720
Speaker 1: if he hits at like twenty five to thirty home

450
00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:41,720
Speaker 1: run pace. The rest of the way really okay, But

451
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Speaker 1: I don't think he's going to give you anything. I

452
00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:45,960
Speaker 1: think the average is gonna be low. Like, I don't

453
00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:48,840
Speaker 1: think he's gonna maybe he gets a couple of steals,

454
00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:50,640
Speaker 1: but like that's not what you're counting on him for.

455
00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:53,120
Speaker 2: Like, I'm not thinking that home runs will be worth it.

456
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Speaker 1: But I do think he has power and will get

457
00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:01,080
Speaker 1: enough chances to I mean, he's at that right now,

458
00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:03,919
Speaker 1: and forty fats three home runs, you know, spread that

459
00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:07,720
Speaker 1: out over whole season, but obviously, you know that's coming

460
00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:08,760
Speaker 1: off of a two home run game.

461
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Speaker 3: It was worth noting real quick that he had been

462
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Speaker 3: buried at the bottom of the lineup. And then yesterday

463
00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:14,680
Speaker 3: and they moved up to the two hole against a

464
00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:17,840
Speaker 3: ridy so and he's a ready hitter, so he they

465
00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:19,560
Speaker 3: are showing some confidence in him, and they moved him

466
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Speaker 3: all the way up from like the nine to one

467
00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:22,600
Speaker 3: of the two hole. So we'll see if that sticks too.

468
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Speaker 1: Having said what I just said about the power, I

469
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Speaker 1: would be selling him, I guess, coming off this two

470
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Speaker 1: home run game, because I think he's going to hurt

471
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Speaker 1: you in other places. But I'm really interested in him

472
00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:35,240
Speaker 1: long term actually, so like in a non and some

473
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Speaker 1: kind of keyboard or dynasty format, I'd be keeping a

474
00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:40,760
Speaker 1: close eye on him. And then lastly, we wanted to

475
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Speaker 1: hit on some of these pictures rookie pitchers. Kind of

476
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Speaker 1: the four names that we put together, Jacob Mazaraski, Rookie Sasaki,

477
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Speaker 1: Mick Abel, Chase Dolander obviously have unvaryingly, you know, different things,

478
00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:56,080
Speaker 1: on different timelines so far this season. You know, Sasaki

479
00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:59,679
Speaker 1: has been hurt. Doll Lander came up very early, Abel

480
00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:03,120
Speaker 1: was up, Looks Excellence went down, camp back up. Miserroowski

481
00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:07,639
Speaker 1: has been like unreal, The stuff is just absurd. So

482
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Speaker 1: of these four, how would you rank them rest of season?

483
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Speaker 3: So I think I would go Miserawski clear number one,

484
00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:16,960
Speaker 3: just from what we've seen. I mean, we just saw

485
00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:18,760
Speaker 3: him go toe to toe with Paul Skins and come

486
00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:20,560
Speaker 3: out looking better than called Paul Skans. You know, not

487
00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:23,440
Speaker 3: that he's better than Paul Skans, but in that game,

488
00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,040
Speaker 3: you know, Paul Skins had, you know, like it just

489
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Speaker 3: so happened that Paul Skins had one of his worst

490
00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:30,240
Speaker 3: starts as a pro, and whereas Miserowski, you know, pitched

491
00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:34,359
Speaker 3: like a legend. So I think right off the bat,

492
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Speaker 3: I would go Miserawski as the clear one. Maybe if

493
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Speaker 3: even if we're doing this with like tears, I think

494
00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:43,800
Speaker 3: it's like Miserawski and then like a tear break and

495
00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:45,399
Speaker 3: then and then we start talking about the rest of

496
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Speaker 3: these guys. Rookie Sasaki is an interesting one. And I

497
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Speaker 3: mentioned to you, you know, as we were like prepping

498
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Speaker 3: for the show, that we spend a lot of time

499
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Speaker 3: before the season talking about Sasaki, but we haven't talked

500
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Speaker 3: about him a lot during the season, and some of

501
00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:59,159
Speaker 3: that is because of the injury, but it's also just

502
00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,639
Speaker 3: kind of like, I mean, you know, we saw him debut,

503
00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,240
Speaker 3: and you know we saw like the you know, the

504
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:07,600
Speaker 3: the speed, the velocity, and but then like the overall

505
00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,399
Speaker 3: was offer just kind of like, eh, like he had

506
00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:12,000
Speaker 3: some velocity, he didn't have a lot of like swing

507
00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:15,600
Speaker 3: and miss, and his spect numbers are all over the place,

508
00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,680
Speaker 3: and I would I feel like we should talk about

509
00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,399
Speaker 3: him first, like what are you thinking about Sasaki and

510
00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,720
Speaker 3: what we've seen so far, just like just like from

511
00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,359
Speaker 3: him in this first half of his first season, because

512
00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:29,240
Speaker 3: he's still a young picture too. Despite you know, a

513
00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,080
Speaker 3: lot of these pictures come over from overseas and they're

514
00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,440
Speaker 3: like they're older, not like older, but like they're veterans.

515
00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:35,200
Speaker 3: He's still twenty three years old.

516
00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:44,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm largely disinterested in a redraft format because of

517
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:48,000
Speaker 1: the injury stuff, Like the Dodgers don't have any real

518
00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:51,960
Speaker 1: need to push him. He already wasn't throwing that deep

519
00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:56,200
Speaker 1: into games the stuff. Like, I am not at all

520
00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:59,320
Speaker 1: like down on it, and in a long term format,

521
00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:03,199
Speaker 1: I'd still be very interested in him. But in if

522
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,600
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the just second half, and I need pitching.

523
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,240
Speaker 1: He is not somebody I'm like trying to buy low on.

524
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,119
Speaker 1: I'm letting him be someone else's. Like I don't want

525
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,560
Speaker 1: to say headache, but like if you're not going deep

526
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,080
Speaker 1: enough into games, which even when he's back, like, I

527
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:21,280
Speaker 1: don't expect that. I think that's just too much of

528
00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,119
Speaker 1: a I don't think his stuff is good enough to

529
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:23,719
Speaker 1: overcome that.

530
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,000
Speaker 3: Not yeah, probably not yet. They also the other complicating

531
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:28,760
Speaker 3: factor here is the injury. Because he already has a

532
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,119
Speaker 3: shoulder injury. We haven't seen him since.

533
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,120
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, and that plays into like the expected lack

534
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:33,720
Speaker 2: of innings.

535
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, we haven't seen him since the second week of May.

536
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:40,480
Speaker 3: And the last time he was actually like ramping up

537
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,479
Speaker 3: his shoulder his drowing program, he shut it right back

538
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,480
Speaker 3: down because he was feeling discomforted in the shoulders. So

539
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:50,560
Speaker 3: and that was already six weeks removed from the injury.

540
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,439
Speaker 3: So you don't like to see that, and you know

541
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:55,439
Speaker 3: he's already out through the All Star break. Who knows

542
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:57,480
Speaker 3: when we see him after that, And then, like you said,

543
00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 3: there's probably gonna be some innings limitations there. They could

544
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,639
Speaker 3: even move him to the bullpen, depending on how healthy

545
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 3: they get. You know, we always joke on the show

546
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:06,200
Speaker 3: and how many arms they have, and then how many

547
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 3: arms they have on the il. But you know, there's

548
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 3: a realistic possibility that they just make him like a

549
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 3: two or three inning bulk reliever heading into the playoffs

550
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 3: if if they want to kind of limit his innings.

551
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:20,680
Speaker 3: So I think, almost by default, while I don't when

552
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 3: I wouldn't rank him dead last in like pure stuff,

553
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,639
Speaker 3: I would make Miserawski probably the clear number one, in

554
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 3: Sasaki probably the clear four. And then from you rather.

555
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:33,359
Speaker 1: Have Dolander than Sasaki. I think I have Able ahead

556
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 1: of Sasaki, but yeah, dolanderies. Yeah, Dollander is the weird

557
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,080
Speaker 1: one because of the Rockies. I mean, he has a

558
00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,359
Speaker 1: he if you're just looking at like pure stuff, he

559
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,399
Speaker 1: might have better stuff than Sasaki. I don't know that

560
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,199
Speaker 1: he's a better pitcher already, we've already seen him come

561
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 1: up and struggle to an Era over six.

562
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good point. I think it's Miserawski and Able,

563
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 3: and then.

564
00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, Sasaki than Dolander.

565
00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:03,639
Speaker 3: It's yeah, it's you're probably better. While I'm not like

566
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,680
Speaker 3: that optimistic about Sasaki, You're probably better off rolling the

567
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 3: dice on Sasaki than you are Dolander, just because of

568
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,440
Speaker 3: the Dodgers connection, and you know we've already seen Dollander

569
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 3: struggle more so than Sasaki.

570
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let's go to our news notes and injuries.

571
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 1: A tough one at the top. Max Meyer hip surgery

572
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:27,640
Speaker 1: on his laborum. Out for the season. Just the bummer.

573
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 1: I mean, I was very excited about him in spring training.

574
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,400
Speaker 1: He looked like he was proving me right in April,

575
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 1: and then it's kind of started to fall off, and

576
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 1: then he went on the il and now, after getting

577
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 1: a couple of opinions, is out for the year. So

578
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:47,239
Speaker 1: that sucks how much else around it? What are your

579
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,479
Speaker 1: expectations for him going into next season? Are you going

580
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,920
Speaker 1: to be aggressively trying to draft him next year or

581
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 1: kind of out after how this year ended.

582
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:57,440
Speaker 3: I don't think I'll be out because I am really

583
00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:01,480
Speaker 3: really intrigued by him, and I think based on how

584
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 3: this year is gone, that the price is going to

585
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 3: be low enough that I'll be interested. It'll depend on

586
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:09,160
Speaker 3: the price, though, and if you know, if a lot

587
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 3: of people are kind of like buying in, like you know,

588
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 3: if he has a really good spring training, and the

589
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 3: price really starts to rise, then I'll probably be out.

590
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,439
Speaker 3: I'm not really gonna want to take that risk, but

591
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:21,879
Speaker 3: if the if the price is low enough, I'll be

592
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 3: in on him for sure.

593
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 1: Gorviyn Carroll to the eye l with a wrist fracture,

594
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 1: obviously something to keep a very close eye on, given

595
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 1: how important he is to fantasy managers. We got a

596
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,120
Speaker 1: bunch of other ones here that you added to the list,

597
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 1: so I'll let you run through these.

598
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 3: Sure, the Sean and I are shut down from throwing

599
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 3: with a loose body in his elbow. And the weird

600
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:42,120
Speaker 3: thing about this update is they said he was only

601
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 3: kind of you know, he already hasn't pitched this year,

602
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 3: and then they said there was a loose body in

603
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 3: his elbow and they're only shutting him down for a

604
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 3: couple of days. That seems like a much bigger deal

605
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 3: than getting shut down for a couple of days, and

606
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 3: like resuming your throwing program like that feels like a

607
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 3: big deal. So I've been stashing Sea and I in

608
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 3: a couple of places. I was getting excited because he

609
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 3: was working his way back, probably getting ready to getting

610
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 3: ready to make other moves. If I find he really

611
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,879
Speaker 3: knew that roster spot even though he was working his

612
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:10,640
Speaker 3: way back. This this loose body, you know, this loose

613
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 3: body and his elbow is not something I'm interested in.

614
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,680
Speaker 3: Zach Neto injured shoulder on a side the other day,

615
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 3: but his MRI I did come back negative. You don't

616
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 3: like that. It's the same shoulder that he already dealt

617
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 3: with an injury with and he kind of like injured

618
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 3: his shoulder and then like stayed in the game and

619
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 3: then had to come out, and then now he had

620
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 3: to go for an MRI. So like he was having,

621
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 3: you know, a really fun season I'm in. We talked

622
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 3: about the one league I'm in where I just get

623
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 3: like trade offers every day I get. I got was

624
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 3: getting zach Netto trade offers every day, and I was like,

625
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,400
Speaker 3: I was, look good, I'm not looking to trade him,

626
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,879
Speaker 3: Like I'm very happy with the production I'm getting, you know,

627
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 3: getting a power speed as like you know, my short

628
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:50,879
Speaker 3: stop slash middle infielder, like not looking to move him.

629
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 3: But I was legit getting offers every day. And then

630
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 3: I did think it was funny that someone had like

631
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 3: offered me a trade and then like the injury happened

632
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 3: and they quickly were withdrew it, and I'm like, I'm

633
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 3: never going to be the guy to like accept a

634
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,639
Speaker 3: tray when a guy get hurts, But like, you know,

635
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 3: I do get why they would like withdraw that that

636
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 3: that offer, but like I'm never going to be that

637
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 3: guy to accept the trade anyway. Jordan al Alvarez finally

638
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 3: began hitting in a cage, so hopefully they don't rediscover

639
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 3: any you know, hand fractures that they didn't do x

640
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,920
Speaker 3: rays for this time around, and he actually gets back

641
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 3: on the field soon. Austin Hayes begins to rehabit. Sign

642
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 3: just began a rehab assignment, and he's when he can

643
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 3: stay on the field. He's been having a really good year,

644
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 3: he just like can't seem to stay on the field.

645
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 3: So he's someone that if he's out there in your league,

646
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 3: I would go in and pick him up, just because when

647
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 3: he's been out there, he's been really productive and I

648
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 3: assume that's going to continue as long as he can

649
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 3: just stay healthy. Your boy Hunter Green to throw a

650
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 3: bullpen next week and so he could potentially be coming

651
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 3: back soon, joining their res rotation with Chase Burns. And

652
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 3: with Andrew Rabbit and with Nickolodolo, and I posed this

653
00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 3: on Twitter the other day. Not only could the Reservo

654
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:01,959
Speaker 3: be really good the second half of the season, they

655
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 3: could be set up for a pretty long run of

656
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 3: success here with this rotation kind of like going forward,

657
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 3: Like if they can keep all these guys and keep

658
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 3: them all healthy, which is you know, two very big Yeah.

659
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,479
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, like, how many times have we said, oh,

660
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 1: imagine this young pitching altogether over the years on it

661
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 1: for any team an organization, and how often does it

662
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 1: actually pan out?

663
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 3: Yeah? Because they also his name is escaping me right now,

664
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 3: but I posted on Twitter, but they have another top

665
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 3: pitching prospect who he's hurt right now, but his name

666
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:39,719
Speaker 3: is escaping me, Red Louder. That's who it is, Red Louder.

667
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 3: But he's another top prospect in the organization who even

668
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 3: if he slots in is like the third, fourth or

669
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 3: fifth pitcher. That could be a really good rotation. But

670
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 3: you know, it's we'll see. You know, the Reds have

671
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 3: been known to trade players, and you know, players who

672
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 3: throw that hard have been known to get injured. So

673
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 3: it'll be really exciting if they can keep their rotation together,

674
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 3: but you know, we shall see. Shane McClanahan resumes throwing

675
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 3: off a mound as he continues to work back from

676
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 3: that looked like a devastating arm injury turned out to

677
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 3: be a nerve injury. Still don't really know what's going

678
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 3: on there, but it looks like he could be coming

679
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 3: back in the near future unless he has step backs,

680
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 3: which is not you know, out of the realm of possibility,

681
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 3: giving like the strained injury he's dealing with. And then

682
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 3: we got an update that Alex Bragman is unlikely to

683
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 3: return before the All Star break, which is a bummer

684
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 3: because there were some whispers that he was like getting ready,

685
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 3: but now it seems like, you know, at least two

686
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 3: more weeks, we're not gonna have Alex Bragman at a

687
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 3: very shallow third base position. In Fantasy.

688
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 1: I mentioned that really injured team I have in Dan

689
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 1: Harris's league netto Jordan Hunter, Green, McClanahan, Bragman all on

690
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 1: that team.

691
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:45,479
Speaker 2: Then that's only like half the injuries I have.

692
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 3: So and you very famously drafted chain of Kinahan like

693
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:52,479
Speaker 3: sixty seconds before that injury happened in real time. Then

694
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 3: we kind of shared the video around the room because

695
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 3: it was a rare in person draft.

696
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 1: Famously, Yeah, that was a real dagger moment for me

697
00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 1: and my first ever draft in this league. But yeah,

698
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 1: so they have it news notes and injuries. And then lastly,

699
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 1: I labeled this segment cal Rally is a maze balls

700
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 1: because the dude is just insane. As of when I

701
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 1: was putting together this yesterday. I don't know if there

702
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 1: was what he did yesterday, but thirty two home runs

703
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 1: on pace for sixty six this season, which is insane enough,

704
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 1: let alone as a catcher. Also nine stolen bases, just

705
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 1: to you know, add that on top of everything else

706
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 1: he's doing two eighty one, three eighty six, sixty sixty

707
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 1: seven slash line.

708
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 2: People don't need me to tell them cal Rally is awesome.

709
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 1: But we've only really talked about him once as like,

710
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 1: is it worth selling high on him? I feel like

711
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 1: we're past that, and it's more like we should just

712
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 1: be like kind of taking a step back to really appreciate,

713
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 1: like what this first half has been for him. Would

714
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 1: he be a first rounder if we were drafting today

715
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 1: for the rest of the season. And then I also

716
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 1: as a secondary question, I wanted to ask you, do

717
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 1: you think he can overtake are Judge Rail MVP? I

718
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 1: haven't looked at the odds recently, but you know, obviously

719
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 1: Judge has been kind of the overwhelming favorite favorite of

720
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 1: the whole year.

721
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 2: It feels like what Cal's doing as a.

722
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 1: Catcher, maybe he should be more in that conversation or

723
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 1: even like arguably ahead of Judge. But yeah, Carraley's been

724
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 1: awesome leading baseball and home runs. Obviously, would he be

725
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 1: a first rounder if we drafted today?

726
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 3: I think you would have to be because if you

727
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 3: look at like the you know, the VBR and the

728
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 3: stats on Fanny Spurs, if I just if I switched

729
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 3: to that page and let it load, he is the

730
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 3: third most valuable player in Fantasy so far. It's Judge

731
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 3: Otanian than cal Raley, and then of course Pete Kromstrong,

732
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 3: who just won't go away. But I mean, just based

733
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 3: on production loan, he would have to be. And the

734
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 3: other thing is, if I wanted to kind of bring

735
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 3: this up to you, if I told you before the

736
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 3: season that cal Raley would hit thirty two home runs

737
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 3: and back to seventy seven is steal nine bases, you

738
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 3: would be like, hey, that's a pretty good season from

739
00:32:58,440 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 3: cal Rally.

740
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 2: I would say that's a great Yeah, we're halfway through.

741
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 3: We're halfway through, and that's like those are like really

742
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 3: good final numbers. And by comparison, last year he had

743
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 3: thirty four home runs and stole six paces. Granted you

744
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 3: know the RBIs and run scored, although the run scored

745
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 3: seventy three last year fifty eight this year, he's already

746
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 3: getting close to those. Any bad two sety seven after

747
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 3: bat two twenty last year, like that would be you'd

748
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 3: be like fantastic, Like what a great draft pick Kyle

749
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 3: Rally and lo and behold, we are literally halfway through

750
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 3: the season.

751
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 1: Let's say he falls off a bit, but it's still

752
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 1: really good in the second half. So let's say he

753
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 1: finishes with fifty home runs, fifteen stolen bases, and a

754
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 1: two sixty average. Is he a first round or next year?

755
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 3: I think he's in the conversation just because of the position,

756
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 3: because there are going to be people who who say, man,

757
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 3: if I can lock up that kind of production from

758
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 3: my catcher spot and not have to worry about catcher,

759
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 3: the rest of the draft, people are definitely gonna take

760
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 3: him in the first round. And also not to get

761
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 3: away from fantasy, but like for the MVP conversation, he's

762
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 3: also a pretty good defensive catcher. Like he's not just

763
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 3: a schlub bank there either. And with I didn't see

764
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 3: the odds, but like Iron, Judge has come not like

765
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 3: come back down to earth because he's still ridiculous, but

766
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 3: he's not hitting four hundred anymore. And he kind of

767
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 3: went through like a mini slump there. So I think

768
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 3: there's a world where he he you know, he enters

769
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 3: that MVP conversation.

770
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 2: Three days ago, it was.

771
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 1: Judge this on ESPN Judge minus two thousand cal Rawley

772
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 1: plus six point fifty and the next closest to Jose

773
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 1: Ramirez it's seventy five to one. Jeez, but yeah, Judge

774
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 1: minus two thousand, cal Ralei plus six fifty. I would

775
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 1: bet on cal rale at those odds. I don't know

776
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,359
Speaker 1: what it is elsewhere. I don't have them all up

777
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,800
Speaker 1: in front of me right now. But and again that

778
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 1: was a few days ago. That feels not accurate to

779
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 1: where you would see it in most books. Would be

780
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 1: my guests, I don't know if you're pulling it up

781
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 1: and seeing it somewhere I am.

782
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 3: I was just looking at I'm waiting for it to

783
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 3: load now, but I saw what did you say you

784
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 3: saw Judge.

785
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:12,479
Speaker 1: At minus two thousand three days ago on ESPN bet

786
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 1: That feels wrong.

787
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, So on betting pros, the best odds you're going

788
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 3: to get for Aaron Judge right now are minus nine

789
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 3: hundred and the so the best odds you're going to

790
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 3: get for cal Raley or plus five hundred. But at

791
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,439
Speaker 3: bet MGM, he's already down to plus three seventy five.

792
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 1: That seems more reasonable, and like I would still like

793
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 1: that bet truthfully. I mean again, if if you have

794
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 1: a catcher who hits, he's not gonna hit sixty home runs,

795
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 1: but like if he if he gets to like fifty, which.

796
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 2: Is he's only eighteen away from yeah, and you throw.

797
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 1: In fifteen seals and is a good defensive catcher, Like

798
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 1: that's really hard and plus is just different from the

799
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 1: guy who already has one MVPs in aeron Judge.

800
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 3: So right, you never want to like, you never want

801
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 3: to like consider that, but it's all it's also sometimes

802
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 3: like you know, if it gets really close to the

803
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 3: voters are gonna be like well, we're kind of It's

804
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:10,399
Speaker 3: what we.

805
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,479
Speaker 1: Just saw in football last year, Lamar Jackson was very

806
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 1: clearly had a better season than Alan, but Alan hadn't

807
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 1: won and Lamar had two, so Alan won the vote

808
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 1: even though Lamar won First Team All Pro.

809
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 2: It could be the same thing.

810
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 1: Here where it's like, yeah, Judge's numbers are like maybe better,

811
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 1: but both were amazing, and Cal doesn't, like how cool

812
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 1: would it be to give a Seattle catcher MVP over

813
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 1: you know, this gigantic figure in baseball in New York.

814
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 1: I mean I think that would at least play in voters' minds.

815
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 3: So yeah, and I'm just looking at Judge's numbers. He

816
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 3: was batting four hundred for a long time, which is ridiculous.

817
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 3: He's now down to three sixty one, still incredible, twenty

818
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 3: at home round six Dollen bases. You know, obviously all

819
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 3: all the good counting stats, but the numbers aren't that

820
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 3: ridiculous anymore that it's like out of the question that

821
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 3: someone else could be MVP, whereas like three weeks ago.

822
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 1: Us, Yeah, I mean Cal Rawley needs to be amazed

823
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,320
Speaker 1: balls for this to be a thing, right, Like it's

824
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,439
Speaker 1: it's it's not like he's locked up, you know, being

825
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 1: making this a two man race. If cal falls off,

826
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 1: then Judge could run away with it. But as of

827
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 1: right now, like I see every reason to say that

828
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 1: those odds at least are the wider gap than they

829
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 1: should be.

830
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 3: Speaking of Amaze Balls, have you at least seen the

831
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 3: movie Spaceballs? Or is that just another movie you've never seen?

832
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:27,359
Speaker 1: I have.

833
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 2: I don't remember it.

834
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 1: I mean, like I remember some bits from it, but

835
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 1: I only saw it like once, many years ago. But

836
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 1: I have seen that one. I like the Uh well,

837
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 1: actually I don't.

838
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 2: Know if I should.

839
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 1: I was gonna do a bit where they say a

840
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 1: word that I don't know if I can say on

841
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:43,320
Speaker 1: this show or not.

842
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 2: Uh the I knew it.

843
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 1: I'm surrounded by h I don't know if that's acceptable

844
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:50,879
Speaker 1: or not. But it's a very funny scene, and it's

845
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 1: it's a generally very funny movie.

846
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 2: So yes, I have seen that one and I like it.

847
00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:58,800
Speaker 2: Is that like one of your favorites?

848
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 3: No, okay, classic comedy, so I figured you haven't seen

849
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 3: it because you don't see any movies ever.

850
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of classic comedies I've seen. Airplane

851
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:12,360
Speaker 1: Naked Gun is one of my favorite comedies. I like,

852
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 1: you know, Dumb and Dumber, Blazing Saddles, going way back,

853
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 1: very classic comedy, so I like some good ones.

854
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, there like that parody you know, when they were

855
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:24,760
Speaker 3: doing all these parody movies.

856
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 1: I will probably see the Liam Neeson Naked Gun sequel

857
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,800
Speaker 1: that they're coming out with soon. And I don't typically

858
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 1: like just rehashing old stuff, but I really like the

859
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 1: original Naked Gun. It's what it might be my favorite

860
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 1: comedy of all time, so I'll probably it's really good.

861
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 1: It's that movie's hilarious. All right, We'll go ahead and

862
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 1: wrap up there for a rounding the bases. Be sure

863
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,800
Speaker 1: to keep an eye out for our trade show and

864
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,479
Speaker 1: waivers coming out later this weekend, and also, of course,

865
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:59,320
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