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Speaker 1: every day, all of the great articles. UM. So let's

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Speaker 1: get right into this. This is Terry SHOPHERD who was

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Speaker 1: time Terry SHOPHERD, Army Green Beret. Let's get right into

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Speaker 1: it because it doesn't work. Are just not using enough.

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Speaker 1: and now here's your co host and producer of this operation,

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Speaker 1: Ian Scott l softwareup Radio on Time on Target for

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Speaker 1: of softrep dot Com, Jack Murphy, Green Beret also Green Bret,

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Speaker 1: Master Stargeant Terry Shapherd, and thanks for making the trip

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Speaker 1: that that would be enough. His eminent reasonableness I'm making

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Speaker 1: that word up because I feel like it. Shakespeare made

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Speaker 1: up two words. I can make up a freaking word.

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Speaker 1: I said, oh yeah, but so I think that's true.

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Speaker 1: That's great. I'm not on Fox News right now. You

431
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Speaker 1: have to be very careful. But I think that was

432
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Speaker 1: the President Obama's problems, and he believed his own hype.

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Speaker 1: He thought that, yeah, I mean, I'm very reasonable, I'm

434
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Speaker 1: eminently persuadable. I can talk to these people. And he

435
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Speaker 1: quickly realized that's not the way it works. Russian reminds

436
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Speaker 1: me of the Carter administration. It is Russia is gonna

437
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Speaker 1: Russia Russia. And also Russia goes into Ukraine. You know,

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Speaker 1: they do there and we don't do anything about it.

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Speaker 1: I realized there's a lot of snakes out there. Well,

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Speaker 1: and that's the thing, you know. And President Obama, I think,

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Speaker 1: quickly had the lesson in reality of like, oh, wow,

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Speaker 1: they're not gonna listen to me me because I'm cool, or

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Speaker 1: that I'm interesting, or that I'm black, or that I'm

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Speaker 1: any of those things that were made his presidency yet,

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Speaker 1: you know, obviously very historic. I think Trump is kind

446
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Speaker 1: of like the drunk uncle at Thanksgiving. I feel like,

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Speaker 1: you know, in a way, he might he just he

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Speaker 1: just might be the kind of guy. What did you

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Speaker 1: say to me? Now that's good and bad for us

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Speaker 1: in the military, right because we don't want to go

451
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Speaker 1: half cocked. But I think I feel like the dudes

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Speaker 1: I've talked to you right now are pretty I don't know,

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Speaker 1: pretty hopeful about him because he is very pro American America. First,

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to go on that tack for the

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Speaker 1: rest of our our existence because I think you gotta

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Speaker 1: be park But I think it's again pendulum swing. And

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Speaker 1: I also think he's just he has no problem backing

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Speaker 1: it up and and that's good. There's other things we

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Speaker 1: have I have concerned with Terry. I mean, he did

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Speaker 1: say we're going to defeat Isis and we're gonna do

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Speaker 1: it fast. What did he say that he was going

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Speaker 1: to do it in the first month of his presidency. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he says a lot of stuff. Yeah, I mean, I

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Speaker 1: I sensed that he he is also being confronted with

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Speaker 1: reality as opposed to his campaign. But we know that too.

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Speaker 1: Everybody says stuff during the campaign. Um, and I think

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Speaker 1: he will I hope. I don't know, man, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: the dude, he's you know, I was Trump wasn't my candidate.

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Speaker 1: But I think that you're right, he's getting the dose

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Speaker 1: of reality. I I hope at least what he will

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Speaker 1: do is to maybe turn some of it over to

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Speaker 1: the military and say what do you guys think we

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Speaker 1: should do? You know, And maybe that's better because I

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Speaker 1: think I think there was more political concerns with President

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Speaker 1: Obama in general. Yeah, you know what I mean, I

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Speaker 1: think it was. It will be interesting too to see

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Speaker 1: what happens after. And I don't say this as a criticism,

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Speaker 1: per say, of of President Trump, but this this is

479
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Speaker 1: any president. I want to see how he's going to respond.

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Speaker 1: After the first time he gets burned really bad, then

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Speaker 1: we'll see, I mean, like the Benghazi type. Then we

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Speaker 1: will see scenario and something something bad happens. And I

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Speaker 1: also think within the after a couple of years of

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Speaker 1: him settling in and the and the freak outs, well

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Speaker 1: they're probably not going to stop medio wise. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's just that it's but I think, you know, we'll

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Speaker 1: see in a couple of years if he actually does

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Speaker 1: do stay within the bounds of the Constitution, if Congress

489
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Speaker 1: hold him accountable because you know, President Trump is driven

490
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Speaker 1: by ego. It's so is President Obama. I think their

491
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Speaker 1: egos are fed by different things. President Obama I think

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Speaker 1: fed on and thrived on the adulation. He really liked

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Speaker 1: being the world president. He liked being that guy who

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Speaker 1: came into the room where he goes. It's President Obama.

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Speaker 1: I think Trump thrives on just winning and crushing people.

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Speaker 1: And that's sometimes good, it's also sometimes bad. So their

497
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 1: egos are huge. I think they're both very thin skin,

498
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Speaker 1: but it's for kind of I think they're fed by

499
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:03,680
Speaker 1: different things. Yeah, I mean different backgrounds to mean Obama

500
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:08,440
Speaker 1: was a community organized or the lawyer, the senator, and Trump.

501
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:12,159
Speaker 1: I mean you can see, I saw the news today

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Speaker 1: the director of the FBI has been fired. Who's the

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Speaker 1: next director gonna be? We have four candidates, which will

504
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Speaker 1: make it's the reality TV thing, like somebody's getting eliminated.

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Speaker 1: Who's gonna be? It is almost like a celebrity apprentice

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Speaker 1: for the FBI director. Yeah. Well, and the same thing

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Speaker 1: as Supreme Court justice. I mean that's how he plays

508
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Speaker 1: it everything. Yeah, and I think he digs it on

509
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Speaker 1: some level. Two, he does dig it and even though

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Speaker 1: He's not the first president on Twitter. He's like the

511
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Speaker 1: first Twitter president. He really is a Twitter president. I

512
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 1: wish sometimes I just I would actually like it for

513
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 1: if he would just I would appreciate. I get it.

514
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:51,359
Speaker 1: He's punching back, which I like to see people punching back,

515
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Speaker 1: But I also think it's sometimes it looks childish, and

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Speaker 1: I think, just just back off, dude, don't anything. Just

517
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Speaker 1: sometimes it's good. We learned us in Special Forces. Sometimes

518
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Speaker 1: it's good to kind of kind of keep it close

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00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:04,119
Speaker 1: to the vest, keep it close to the chest, rather

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Speaker 1: keep your cards and just don't really say anything, you know,

521
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 1: smile and go okay, cool, great. Yeah. Well, I mean,

522
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 1: when you're the president of the United States, you don't

523
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 1: have to reply to everything. You don't have. You got,

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00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,359
Speaker 1: you got some losta behind. And if you think that,

525
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 1: and if you think the insults are gonna stop because

526
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 1: you punch back, you're wrong. Yeah. So, you know, especially

527
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Speaker 1: when you're that high profile, you're gonna come out. They're

528
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 1: gonna come after him NonStop. That's that's just the way

529
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Speaker 1: it is. So I should throw out there for everybody.

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Speaker 1: You're checking this out on our Facebook ve um or

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Speaker 1: you're listening if you're a member after the fact. But

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Speaker 1: we're doing two shows a week now for members if

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Speaker 1: You're gonna be getting great guests like Terry Shapherd, guys

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Speaker 1: like Jim West, Matt Larson, and a lot more to come.

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Speaker 1: Trying to get Rob O'Neil here in the studio at

537
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Speaker 1: some point that would be great to see. Ian remind

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Speaker 1: me too, I have a bunch of people that I

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Speaker 1: want to get on also, like these articles I've been

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Speaker 1: writing and all these different people I make contact with

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Speaker 1: want to get people on to talk about Detachment A

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Speaker 1: in Berlin, Detachment K and Korea. I want to get

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Speaker 1: these people on it, and I I know the right

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Speaker 1: people to call now, so we'll make it happen and

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Speaker 1: hopefully we'll get a lot of people here in the

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Speaker 1: studio for the people who have been loyal listeners for

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Speaker 1: many years. No more of these like sound quality issues.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna be here twice a week doing just kill

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Speaker 1: our shows. That's what we're here to do and deliver

550
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Speaker 1: great is legit. This is my first time in the office. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: after many years, we have an office. I'm loving it.

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Speaker 1: That's cool. You got you know what, you guys are

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Speaker 1: freaking earned it. I mean, actually, you guys have built

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Speaker 1: it up. I actually told a few of my friends

555
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 1: I was coming up to do software, but that they

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Speaker 1: know who you are. You know. That's good. That's really good.

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Speaker 1: By the way, dead A those guys are. Those guys

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Speaker 1: are legends. When I when I got to stuttgard in U,

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Speaker 1: there was still a couple holdovers there that had that

560
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Speaker 1: had done. That guy's off my team leader, former team leader.

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00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 1: If he's listening, Chase Millsap, one of the best guys

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Speaker 1: I've ever met. He's out in l A. He's writing.

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00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 1: He actually wrote a great pilot um for a series

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Speaker 1: based on what the Dead Eye. If you don't know

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00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:02,160
Speaker 1: what that is, that's detachment A. Those are the dudes

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Speaker 1: who were working in Germany, back and forth east and

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Speaker 1: west in Berlin. Those guys had Those guys were making

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Speaker 1: it up as they went and they were very little

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Speaker 1: rules of very little restrictions. Some of the ship those

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Speaker 1: guys did was serious spook stuff. Serious yeah, and it

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Speaker 1: really really, I mean like just a different kind of

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Speaker 1: vibe than the green bray stuff we've been doing in

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Speaker 1: many of those like Cold War spn Yeah, it was

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Speaker 1: really sort of very c i ah, back to the

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Speaker 1: oss type stuff. It was also unconventional warfare though, because

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Speaker 1: their whole job was if the Soviets pushed across the wall,

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00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 1: they would basically go underground and become sabotage agents. And

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00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 1: they all had targets different infrastructure, train tracks, um, power plants,

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Speaker 1: whatever to go and destroy slow down the Soviet advance.

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00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 1: Really cool, it's basically a suicide mission. Yeah, and they

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00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:51,959
Speaker 1: all they all had this kind of cowboy attitude too,

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Speaker 1: that they're like, fuck it, we're probably gonna die if

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00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 1: this happens, and but they were smart and uh, that's

584
00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 1: great stories. The pictures from back in the day are

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Speaker 1: off in the trench codes, the big side burns. I

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Speaker 1: mean you, if you get a chance, I'll give you something.

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00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 1: This it's just a very interesting facet of Special Forces history.

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00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 1: Who was dead Head? Yeah, that's awesome, and we'll be

589
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 1: able to cover more of that stuff. So I do

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00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 1: want to get into Terry is not just here for

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00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 1: his health, No, I just wanted to see Jack and

592
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Speaker 1: ask him about his adventures in the Philippines, because you

593
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 1: know those are always good. You know, I wanted to

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Speaker 1: see the new studio and give it, you know, thumbs upper,

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Speaker 1: thumbs down. It's got a thumbs up. But yes, I

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Speaker 1: have a series that's running and it's almost done. Let's

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Speaker 1: talk about it. I'll get right into him. And so

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00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,719
Speaker 1: Terry is here promoting his new show, Hollywood Weapons Monday

599
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 1: at nine pm East on the Outdoor Channel. I would

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Speaker 1: say it's kind of the brain child of Joe Montana, right,

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Speaker 1: And yeah, so Joe Montana is the you know, overall

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Speaker 1: producer and people know him from so many things, actor, director, writer,

603
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 1: total patriotic guy, total second amendment dude. He also besides,

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Speaker 1: now you know, he's not criminal minds like however, many years,

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Speaker 1: ten years, twelve years, amazing actor, Broadway actor. By the way,

606
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 1: he grew up in the theater Um in Chicago with

607
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Speaker 1: Gary Sinise. So those another and also David Mammett, who

608
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 1: is a very very well known playwright who was actually

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Speaker 1: kind of a left wing guy. And when I was

610
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Speaker 1: at will Cow several years ago, he had written a

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Speaker 1: book called The Secret Knowledge and it's his conversion from

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Speaker 1: the left to the right. And he's brilliant. Uh. But yeah,

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00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 1: so Joe Montania is what's great about him. He's the

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Speaker 1: nicest guy you could ever imagine. Um and he's been

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Speaker 1: a great in for us in Hollywood because everybody knows

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Speaker 1: who he is and he's got a great reputation. So

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Speaker 1: we did the pilot from an episode of Criminal Minds

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Speaker 1: where I was shooting guns underwater the windshield, which, yeah,

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Speaker 1: by the way, what a bummer, right, Yeah, I hate

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Speaker 1: I hate my job. Although I did shoot the four

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Speaker 1: fifty four casule it's the Ruger Redhawk, and I knew

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Speaker 1: it was going to fund me because I was in

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Speaker 1: a closed container of water and you know, I was

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Speaker 1: just like basically like doing an inter We did it

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Speaker 1: as safe as we could not. I will say, is

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Speaker 1: Larry's oun off this? This guy is great. He's a

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Speaker 1: he's the co star and we can't do it without him.

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Speaker 1: He actually was an I d F guy and he's

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Speaker 1: from Israel. You can't tell us he sounds very American. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I haven't noticed that because I've watched the see right,

631
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Speaker 1: he's actually Israeli. And uh, he was in one of

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Speaker 1: the one of the recon I forget exactly what you

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Speaker 1: know was. But he did a lot of stuff in Lebanon,

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Speaker 1: he's got a combat bet from Israel. Yeah. The premise

635
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Speaker 1: of the show though, because people might not know that

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Speaker 1: you're recreating these scenes from famous Hollywood movies and seeing

637
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 1: can you make the shot? Is it possible? Is this

638
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 1: just Hollywood? Yeah? I always. I always frame it as

639
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 1: if you're watching a movie late at night or TV

640
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 1: and you go, come on, man, can you do that?

641
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 1: We all do that, right, we all go, I don't know.

642
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 1: That's the purpose of the show is to see can

643
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 1: I using you know, a lever action yellow Boy rifle

644
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 1: like they used in Good, the Bad and Ugly? Can

645
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 1: I hit the hangman's rope forty yards away? You know,

646
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 1: the exact calibu diameter rope hemp rope forty yards away

647
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 1: and sever it like he did in the movie. Is

648
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 1: it doable? So? Or is it know what I did that?

649
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 1: We did the Jaws episode where I shot the M

650
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 1: one and one grand and I was on a mast

651
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 1: and we had a moving shark target coming at me

652
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 1: with a with a scooba tag in his mouth, and

653
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 1: so then we test can you hit the Can you

654
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 1: hit that little pipe played bottom of the cylinder? Okay,

655
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 1: I was able to do that. I think I hit

656
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 1: three out of six, so that's okay, and then we

657
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 1: for safety version. For safety reasons, we then took the

658
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 1: cylinder filled with air, put it back to three yards.

659
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 1: I hit it. I hit it with actually by Buddy

660
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 1: Corey had his a it's three oh eight, and I

661
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 1: hit it and did some interesting things to the shark.

662
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 1: We had a eight thousand dollar mock up shark. It

663
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 1: looked amazing and looked like the thing of Jaws. Yeah,

664
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 1: and then we then just for fun because it wasn't

665
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 1: blowy up because it was compressed there and we sort

666
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 1: of knew that. I put some tanner right on the

667
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 1: side of the tank and I just blew it to

668
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: Smith Reeds. So it's been interesting because a lot of

669
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 1: the stuff, dude. So that's what we do. And you know,

670
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 1: the goal is not to debunk the show debunk a movie,

671
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 1: because that's no funs. It's to celebrate it. I get

672
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 1: to play the characters like you get in the full

673
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 1: costume every dude. I'm an actor, so you know, so

674
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 1: I get to play dress up too. You know, I'm

675
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 1: I'm dressed like Clinty. So what I was, you know,

676
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 1: for McClean, I was wearing the wife beat or run

677
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 1: around bare feet with a baretta and uh yeah, so

678
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 1: I get to and so it's a combination. I think

679
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 1: the show what's what's working. You know what's fun about

680
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 1: it is that if you're a gun guy, there's some

681
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 1: stuff there for you. If your weapons guy, oh cool.

682
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,719
Speaker 1: If you're someone who just likes movies and TV shows

683
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 1: and you're like, man, I love that. Yes, if you're

684
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 1: someone who's into special effects, because I also work with

685
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 1: a lot of special effects guys to show you how

686
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 1: those guys make it look so cool on film. If

687
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 1: you like a buddy comedy, uh, you know, Larry's the adult,

688
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 1: I'm the child, He's abbot, I'm Costello. You'll dig it.

689
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 1: And so I think we kind of we have an

690
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 1: interesting audience. I've gotten a lot of really nice feedback

691
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 1: from it. And it's fun. Dude, It's like, you love

692
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 1: to do it, You would love to do it, Ian,

693
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 1: and I don't think I'd be as successful as you.

694
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 1: I mean, you guys both snipers. I am from have

695
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 1: weapon yet. But that by the way, So second season,

696
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 1: here's some of the ones we want to do. And

697
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 1: we also say at the end of the show, always say, hey,

698
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 1: you got any ideas hit us up at Hollywood Weapons,

699
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 1: So I definitely want to do I've already made them

700
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 1: commit to it. So the second I want to do

701
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 1: the Dirty Harry one where he comes out of the

702
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 1: diner on that and he's eating the hot dog and

703
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 1: he's got the forty four bag and he's gotta shoot

704
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 1: one handed. That's gonna be a hard shot. We're gonna do.

705
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 1: So we're gonna try to do some lethal weapons stuff.

706
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 1: I want to do some stuff from like some of

707
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 1: the seventies cops shows I grew up with, like like

708
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 1: maybe Kojack or Star Skiing Huts. Just so there's a

709
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 1: wealth of stuff out there, a gun stuff, like, hey, man,

710
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 1: is that actually possible? We were thinking of doing like

711
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 1: an hour long episode is a half hour show, so

712
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,400
Speaker 1: it's really fast. We're thinking to an hour long episode

713
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 1: maybe like World War two stuff, world War two movies,

714
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 1: you know, like Kelly's Heroes or or you know some

715
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,399
Speaker 1: of those, and and we gotta we have a it's

716
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 1: wide open right now, and it's uh, it's been a

717
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 1: lot of fun, man, It's been a lot of It's

718
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 1: just been so much fun. How can I complain You're

719
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,879
Speaker 1: showing me the preview earlier where you're playing Captain Kirk

720
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 1: and you're fighting the lizard Man. Yep, I had to

721
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,319
Speaker 1: choreograph well because I even said for him, like, I

722
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 1: got an idea, let's do that fight scene with with

723
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 1: Gore and the lizard Man. So you know, I'm dressed

724
00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,360
Speaker 1: just like Kirk, and I've that really bad double handed

725
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 1: punch and the awful kick and he's grabbing with him

726
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 1: and I we choreographed so it looks exactly like if

727
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 1: you were just walking in the living room, you go,

728
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 1: oh wow, an old Star Trek episode is on, and

729
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 1: we tested to see, you know, he made that homemade cannon,

730
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 1: and so sometimes in the show it works. It works,

731
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,839
Speaker 1: full on, Holy sh it. It worked ever first take.

732
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, quite a few, Yeah, quite a few, and

733
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 1: then some of them like maybe maybe not so, like

734
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 1: the ramble one with the powder reignites the powder with

735
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 1: the m six. Okay, so the first time we tried that,

736
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 1: we're shooting it through plexiglass and stuff. The blast the

737
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 1: muzzle blasts from the from the from the sixty which

738
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 1: is seven two machine um just pushed all the powder away.

739
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 1: You could see on the phantom camera slow motion, a

740
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 1: little bit of flame, but it was pushed away and

741
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 1: blown out. So Larry's like, well, we could tweak it

742
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:46,879
Speaker 1: a bit because it was in a hardware store. Maybe

743
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 1: there's some grooves and the planks, so we were able

744
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 1: to put a little more powder and once that happened, man,

745
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 1: it actually took off. What did you do for the

746
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 1: die Hard episode? So yeah, so we did two things.

747
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,800
Speaker 1: There's that iconic scene where he gets he gets blown

748
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 1: off the roof. He's and he swings and he can't

749
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 1: get through the window, and so he pushes off. He

750
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 1: pushes off and he starts, he takes his bread and

751
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 1: got shoots it in six rounds. So we do it

752
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,280
Speaker 1: exactly that and see if you can push through the window.

753
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 1: We also did just for fun. You know, there's a

754
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 1: lot of MP five's rolling around that show he had

755
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 1: a while, so I actually used the MP five for

756
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:22,280
Speaker 1: twenty rounds. At the time. It was a very hip gun. Actually,

757
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 1: so was the Barretta. I mean the first time we

758
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 1: saw exactly right, exactly, So like stuff like that, dude,

759
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 1: you'll dig because it's you know, if you know the

760
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:33,320
Speaker 1: shows and you know the movie, like, oh, I remember

761
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 1: that gun and the Bretta ninety two is pretty much

762
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:37,399
Speaker 1: my service gun in my whole career. So I told

763
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:39,839
Speaker 1: I looked at Larry good Man, I better not suck,

764
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 1: you know, He's that better not. There's a lot of pressure,

765
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:44,359
Speaker 1: Just a lot of pressure, dude, because it's like one take,

766
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 1: like you gotta try it and if I blow it, okay,

767
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 1: you know. And like I said, we don't debunk the show.

768
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 1: I just you know, and if I miss it or

769
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:53,799
Speaker 1: it doesn't work quite as well, ago at Clint East

770
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 1: who could have done it, you know, So you gotta

771
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 1: give credit to the to the guys who made the character.

772
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 1: So we did a Rambo thing. We Predator with a

773
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 1: mini gun. I got to meet Bill Duke, the guy

774
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 1: who played Mac Mac. Super nice guy, you guys. He

775
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 1: was so cool and friendly to me. I had like

776
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 1: a forty five minute interview with this cat. That's awesome.

777
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 1: Asked him a lot of questions about actor stuff too.

778
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 1: I said, was that was that shaving? Remember in the

779
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 1: movie he's doing the dry shave? And I was like,

780
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 1: I gotta ask you because I'm an actor too. Was

781
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,240
Speaker 1: that an actor's choice or was that written in the script.

782
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 1: He goes, no, I came up with it myself because

783
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 1: I thought, and he's not even military guy. He goes,

784
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 1: I just figured guys like that would have have to

785
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 1: have some kind of channel for their nervous energy. I said, dude,

786
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 1: that was such a great fucking choice. He was like,

787
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 1: that was like one of the best portrayals of a

788
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 1: soldier in a movie. He was great. Yeah, he was brilliant.

789
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 1: He was, Yeah, I'm I'm gonna bleed out. We're gonna

790
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 1: have some fun. We're gonna have some fun. And he goes,

791
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 1: he goes, he goes, I'm tired of you. He says,

792
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 1: I'm like ghost ghosted. That was your ghosted us because

793
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 1: I'm touching good lead to bleed real. Yeah, it was

794
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 1: just so and he was, you get to recreate those lines. Yeah.

795
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 1: When I even asked him before before we did the test,

796
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:58,320
Speaker 1: I said, so, Bill, you know you got any you

797
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 1: got any last words for me? And he's like, if

798
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 1: it bleeds, you can kill it. And he actually came

799
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 1: on another surprise, So he actually came out to the

800
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 1: range on test day and I did not expect that.

801
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 1: So I'm talking to Larry and all of a sudden,

802
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:10,800
Speaker 1: he goes, yeah, I got something else. I look and

803
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 1: there's Bill Duke, so you know he didn't do it,

804
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 1: but he uh, you know, I did the mini gun

805
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 1: with blanks. You can't shoot a mini gun. Yeah, the

806
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 1: mini gun thing is bullshit. You can't hut him. And

807
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 1: we talked about that. It is impossible. So we did it.

808
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 1: But I did it just like in the movie where

809
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 1: I had the blanks in the belt and it looks

810
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 1: bad as it's so much fun. And then we actually

811
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:29,799
Speaker 1: mounted to a tripod and actually Larry had that gun

812
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 1: so nice. I'm thinking it was close to two minutes straight.

813
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:34,839
Speaker 1: I've never done that in real life. Two minute straight

814
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:38,360
Speaker 1: mini gun, back and forth, traversing across this homemade you know,

815
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 1: this man made jungle. We made barrels glowing by the

816
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:42,800
Speaker 1: barrel was on. It was just it looked like it

817
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 1: was it was it was it was cooking the air

818
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 1: so and it was so you know, dude, it's a

819
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 1: lot of fun. Uh. If you dig guns, you'll dig

820
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 1: it if you like the movies, Like there's a scene, okay,

821
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 1: and I just I'm really lucky because I retired in

822
00:38:56,600 --> 00:39:00,320
Speaker 1: October and I was already filming the series. So you know,

823
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 1: it's car for guys like us to get out because

824
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 1: we're thinking what do I do with my life now?

825
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 1: And I had other things potentially lined up and I

826
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,760
Speaker 1: still do. But that was nice because I was actually

827
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 1: still I was filming it in Gunsight, Arizona with the

828
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 1: October tenth and I retired, so I got kind of

829
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:16,839
Speaker 1: lucky that I was already segu congratulations. Yeah, it was good.

830
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,319
Speaker 1: It was cool. And you've been a guy who's been

831
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 1: doing this for years. I mean, for the people who

832
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,799
Speaker 1: aren't that familiar with Terry, You've done Shark Week, You're

833
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 1: a regular on World Cow Show. Dude, you're screwed. I

834
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 1: had a survival show on Discovery. I did. My first

835
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,280
Speaker 1: big break was was Warriors with Terry Shopper on History.

836
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 1: And as you've said, you're a trained actor, so it's

837
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 1: kind of a natural transition for you. Yet at the

838
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,320
Speaker 1: same time, you've been pretty honest and saying it's a

839
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 1: little bitter sweet to not be a Green Beret anymore,

840
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:44,839
Speaker 1: to be a former Green Barrett. Yeah, and I don't

841
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 1: like I don't like that. You know now we call

842
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 1: ourselves f a g S Former action guys, action guys,

843
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 1: and reminds me a Team American World Police. Yes, exactly, exactly,

844
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 1: but it's you know, I was talking to Jack before

845
00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 1: we started, before you went on era. I was a

846
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 1: little worried about it. I still kind of am, because

847
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,320
Speaker 1: in my quiet moments, I think, God, man, what what

848
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 1: do I do? You know what I mean? That was

849
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 1: my I was almost a quarter of a century doing that.

850
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 1: Your identity, it's your identity. So even when I'm walking

851
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 1: around in New York City, I often think to myself, Man,

852
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 1: what separated me from that? Herd? Is not me anymore?

853
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 1: So it's kind of I guess you gotta put the

854
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 1: ego down a little bit, maybe, right, I mean, you've

855
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 1: been you've been out for a while, Yeah, for sure.

856
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 1: I mean I think the smart thing you did is

857
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 1: that you already had a transition plan. You know, you

858
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:33,919
Speaker 1: were already any way out. And I encourage other guys

859
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,879
Speaker 1: to do that. Like I was saying to another guy

860
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,399
Speaker 1: I know who's getting out maybe in like a year,

861
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 1: and he's already starting up business things. It's good for him.

862
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 1: And I was like, that's smart, because the last thing

863
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:46,760
Speaker 1: you want to do is get out of the military

864
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 1: and then ask yourself back, now what And they had

865
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 1: now what, Well, now you're screwed because you don't have

866
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:55,840
Speaker 1: a job. Yeah, anyone sitting around on the catch drinking

867
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 1: jim beam, that's not good for any of us. It

868
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 1: wasn't that kind of you, to be honest a little bit.

869
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 1: Maybe not the gym beam, but you didn't have You've

870
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 1: said before that you were you were trying to apply

871
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 1: for jobs that they said you were overqualified for. Yeah, yeah,

872
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 1: well that happened. Um, I did go through a little

873
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 1: bit of a limbo, but I by the time I

874
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 1: got out, I knew that I was going to be

875
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:18,919
Speaker 1: going to college. But year did you putch out again?

876
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 1: Two thousand and ten? That's right, Okay, Yeah, so you

877
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 1: had school lined up. Yeah, um, but it's hard. A

878
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,319
Speaker 1: lot of guys, you know, man, were just talking about

879
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 1: Mike Mantonito, that the actor that he did such a

880
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 1: great job in that movie. Uh, miracle went into Special

881
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 1: Forces about a week and a half, two weeks ago.

882
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 1: We killed himself. It's someone Kurt Slichter, who's a guy

883
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 1: following Twitter. He's a very conservative guy, but he actually

884
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 1: wrote a tweet right after that. Actually, this guy, Bob

885
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 1: Owen's killed himself too. I don't know who he has

886
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:49,280
Speaker 1: ever seen heard of. Bob Owen's very interesting guy, Second

887
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:52,959
Speaker 1: Amendment guy, very humble, and he was witty as shit,

888
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:55,279
Speaker 1: like people would come after him and he would just

889
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,399
Speaker 1: in a very clever, you can't beat it kind of way,

890
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,439
Speaker 1: just crushed him, but with a smile on his face.

891
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:02,800
Speaker 1: And he committed suicide. And it was awful because, like

892
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 1: his last Facebook post was, I guess I'm not as

893
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 1: strong as you thought I was or told you I was.

894
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 1: I'm kind of a coward. I'm sorry. It also kind

895
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 1: of sucks when a guy who's pro Second Amendment out

896
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 1: there about it, you know well, and then and then

897
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 1: the vultures that piled on that, that was awful, Like,

898
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 1: oh that's what you get, asshole. I was like, man,

899
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 1: you have no class. So and but but Kurt Schlichter said, hey, guys,

900
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 1: you know, if you're thinking about doing that, just reach

901
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 1: out to one of us, just just maybe maybe just

902
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 1: give us a chance. What do you got to lose?

903
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 1: And and it is hard. I was just at a

904
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 1: charity for this these guys, task Force Dagger last weekend

905
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 1: and it was awesome. I'm actually doing something for those

906
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 1: dudes down to Key West, in in June. June, we

907
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 1: do a big dive. We bring them, not just Special

908
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 1: Forces guys with the families, so they all go, they

909
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 1: all get certified, they all go diving. But you know,

910
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:52,799
Speaker 1: some of those guys in these charities, man, they're getting

911
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:54,320
Speaker 1: calls at two o'clock in the morning, like if you

912
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 1: don't if you don't help me, I'm not gonna be

913
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 1: here Tuesday. Holy shit, I mean, this has really happened,

914
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 1: and I don't That's another topic for for a longer day. Maybe.

915
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 1: I mean, we're complicated. We're complicated guys, and we do

916
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 1: get hurt. It's very hard to admit it. We don't

917
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 1: want to be that dude like your arrange of Italian guy. Right,

918
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 1: I went to range of school. We're both at SEF.

919
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 1: One of the things we never want to be is

920
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:22,439
Speaker 1: that guy, the burden, the one who brings down the unit.

921
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 1: So right, I mean, I think that's and that by

922
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 1: the way, that peer pressure is good. It's effective, and

923
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 1: then it keeps guys really really humming and doing their best.

924
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 1: But sometimes it will isolate you. And when that happens,

925
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 1: then then you could then you're fucked. You know what

926
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 1: I've struggled with some some some issues as well. So

927
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 1: I feel like almost all the you know, being the

928
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 1: civilian who gets to meet guys, Yeah, you talk to

929
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 1: us a lot. I feel like I hear it from

930
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 1: most Special operations and it's hard to admit. But if

931
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 1: we're honest with ourselves, you know, it's it sucks. You know,

932
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 1: it's it is an ego thing too, because we're all

933
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 1: we're all prima donnas thinking we're the ultimate, unbeatable to unbeatable,

934
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 1: ultimate bad out. But then how many guys get out

935
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:03,800
Speaker 1: of the military. In the second they do, they're like

936
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 1: falling apart or struggling. I mean, we all struggled to

937
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 1: some extent. But it's like, well, maybe we need to

938
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 1: set aside all the I'm a badass. Uh, you know

939
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 1: what are the other sayings that are they're out there,

940
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:17,840
Speaker 1: I don't need help or you don't help me. But

941
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 1: I also think and and but this, like like Task

942
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 1: Force Daggers is doing well and so common. Actually I

943
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 1: asked them, so COMMS trying pretty hard. So COMMS is

944
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:27,399
Speaker 1: putting for a pretty good effort to kind of reach

945
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 1: out to all And it's not just special ops guys.

946
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,720
Speaker 1: It's even like conventional guys that got wounded with stuff

947
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 1: during our operations. But you know, at some point the

948
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 1: regiment I'm speaking for, the Special Forces regiment, has to

949
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 1: potentially look inside itself and start looking to take care

950
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 1: of guys when they get out. I don't know, man,

951
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 1: I feel like in a lot of ways, guys just

952
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:46,399
Speaker 1: get out and you're just dumped on the street. Yeah.

953
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,439
Speaker 1: I don't think it's intentionally mean, it just happens. Yeah,

954
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 1: the military doesn't take responsibility for what happens. I mean,

955
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 1: they just slide that paperwork across the desk and your

956
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 1: your out, off you go. And uh. And it's funny

957
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:02,359
Speaker 1: how I don't know if I want to get into

958
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 1: this too much, but it's funny. I didn't mean to

959
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 1: get on that road. No, no, no, I think it's

960
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:12,359
Speaker 1: important to say it is. I think it's funny how

961
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 1: the military sometimes tries to reach to the guys who

962
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 1: are out and put like pressure on them and say

963
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 1: like no, no, no, don't do this, don't do that.

964
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 1: But then it does the military doesn't really take responsibility

965
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,360
Speaker 1: for these guys when their lives are falling apart. They

966
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:28,360
Speaker 1: kind of walk from it. Well, we also had a

967
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 1: problem too. I I don't know what that's like right now,

968
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 1: but I think it's still a problem. You know, So

969
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 1: you think about this. You get guys and Jack was

970
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 1: in that world. You get you get Special Forces guys

971
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 1: that are rolling on deployment after deployment after deployment, and

972
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 1: then they come back and maybe they get a d U. I.

973
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:45,399
Speaker 1: You know, they get jammed up, they funk up, they'll

974
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 1: they'll get their tab revote. You know, US Army Special

975
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 1: Forces Command goes in and actually, you know, takes their

976
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 1: tab away. You've not that means you actually can't ever

977
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 1: really claim your green break. You've seen guys have their

978
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 1: be detabbed for a d U. I yeah, dinah, I've

979
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 1: never seen it happen, but I've talked to guys that

980
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 1: had happened guys and and for other things too. Like

981
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 1: I guess what I'm saying is when guys start breaking

982
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 1: and everybody breaks and they and they funk up, they

983
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:12,959
Speaker 1: get jammed up, they do this, I don't know whatever

984
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 1: the kind of thing is. You know, instead of like, hey,

985
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 1: maybe we can help this dude, a lot of times

986
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 1: they're just like we crushed them, and I'm painting with

987
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:21,320
Speaker 1: a broad brush, and it's not like, oh woe is me,

988
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:23,839
Speaker 1: But I think just from a long term point of view,

989
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,840
Speaker 1: from the regiment's health, they've got to maybe re examine

990
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 1: a couple of things on how we handle guys in

991
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 1: how we transition them out. And then you know what's

992
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 1: happening now and it's working, is that you know, the

993
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 1: support structures for when you get out are actually being

994
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:39,720
Speaker 1: done by guys who are not in the military anymore.

995
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 1: So guys like us were like, we can help you,

996
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 1: and so that's the right thing to do. That's another

997
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 1: thing I'm I'm planning on getting into. I've already started

998
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:49,800
Speaker 1: getting involved in some of that stuff more now that

999
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 1: I'm out, because I got no excuse now to not

1000
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 1: do it, because now I can't. I can't say, well,

1001
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 1: i'm in, I'm busy. No, I'm suncing up now. So

1002
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:58,359
Speaker 1: I got to do that. Jack and I not too

1003
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:02,760
Speaker 1: long ago interviewed crawl Longer, which what's his organization? Gallant

1004
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 1: Few Gallant Few, Yeah, And and I think he gives

1005
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 1: out his number and says like, hey, if it's an

1006
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 1: emergency type situation, I'm there, and he makes himself available.

1007
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 1: There's a lot of great veterans organizations out there for

1008
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 1: you guys to check out, Gallant Few being one of them.

1009
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 1: Carl is, Yeah, he's hardcore, like seriously committed, does a

1010
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 1: lot of work. And those guys are so unselfish, you know,

1011
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 1: like the guy the Keith David who's running Task Force Dagger.

1012
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 1: I mean, like I said, he's he had like he had,

1013
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 1: he had spinal surgery. They fused his spine, they go

1014
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 1: in through his trick. Five days later, he's on his

1015
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 1: couch and he's he gets a call from guys like

1016
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be dead by tuesday. Boom, activate the bath phone.

1017
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 1: In an hour, there's plane tickets, he's getting admitted to

1018
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,320
Speaker 1: the Cleveland Clinic, all this kind of stuff. But you know,

1019
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:44,800
Speaker 1: you're now putting that on and they're doing that just

1020
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 1: out of love, you know. So it is very unselfish.

1021
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 1: And you also have to think about the guy fielding

1022
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 1: those phone calls day and yeah, right, and then they

1023
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:56,840
Speaker 1: start getting crushed. You start seeing this stuff over and

1024
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:58,840
Speaker 1: over again. Anyway, I hope we didn't don't mean to

1025
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 1: digress into this. No, no, no, I think I think

1026
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:04,840
Speaker 1: we're like I said, it's important actually wrapping up that

1027
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 1: topic though, have by any chance have you guys seen

1028
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 1: the new All That Remains video Madness So great band

1029
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 1: and our friend Chris Tanto Paranto it stars in the video,

1030
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 1: so Philibanti who fronts All that Remains as a former

1031
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 1: Marine himself. Yeah, he's yeah, so, I mean veterans issues

1032
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 1: very important thing to him. Uh. And Chris Speranto plays

1033
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:27,800
Speaker 1: a suicidal vet and you know, his daughter walks in

1034
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 1: the room and it stops him from shooting himself. And

1035
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,399
Speaker 1: Chris has said actually on this show on Sopprep Radio

1036
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 1: that he he doesn't feel, you know, he was necessarily

1037
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 1: playing a part. He was saying, that's where I was

1038
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 1: at that stage in life. And he wrote a whole

1039
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 1: article about that. He was at a airport one time

1040
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 1: and he was feeling kind of suicidal during the whole

1041
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 1: Benghazi stuff because he said the mainstream media wasn't having

1042
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:52,320
Speaker 1: us on. We were all being told we were liars.

1043
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 1: And he said some older lady at an airport just

1044
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 1: came up to him and was like, hey, are Utanto,

1045
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 1: And he said, I didn't want to talk to this woman.

1046
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 1: I kind of just wanted to be left alone. And

1047
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:05,759
Speaker 1: he was like, yeah, I'm Tonto, and she said, hey,

1048
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 1: I love what you're saying. Keeps speaking your truth. And

1049
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:11,840
Speaker 1: he says, this woman doesn't know it, but she stopped

1050
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 1: me profound something stupid to myself, that's profound. Yeah, I

1051
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 1: think most Americans. I don't know, Jackie, do you tell me?

1052
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 1: I think. I think most Americans appreciate what we do.

1053
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 1: I really do, I think, but I think a lot

1054
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:25,840
Speaker 1: of them are unaware of the whole thing, you know,

1055
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 1: another thing we got to So if you look at

1056
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 1: and this sounds every one of them means something to us, right,

1057
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:33,840
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm wearing one. I'm wearing my you know,

1058
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 1: Tim McGill and my wrist right now. But in a

1059
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 1: relative way, you know, we've lost compared to what we've

1060
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 1: lost the World War Two. It's it's it's not a

1061
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 1: lot of guys. So it's easy for the for the

1062
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:45,439
Speaker 1: for the folks at home who are not They don't

1063
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 1: know Jack Murphy. You know, they're not your brother or

1064
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 1: you guys, don't you know, they don't know us. We

1065
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 1: are becoming, in a weird way, a bit of a

1066
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 1: chance of being a lost generation. Because of World War Two,

1067
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:57,799
Speaker 1: everybody had somebody over there uncle's son, brother. Okay, every

1068
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:02,840
Speaker 1: the country was a rational tinfoil, like everybody was involved

1069
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 1: in this effort. Now for a lot of people, they

1070
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:06,359
Speaker 1: come back and it's a news story. You go, oh man,

1071
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 1: someone got killed. The guests that what's for dinner. It's

1072
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 1: not their fault. Yeah, yeah, it's just the way it is.

1073
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 1: In an odd way. We fight for them to be

1074
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 1: able to be detached from it, disassociated. I mean, yeah,

1075
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:19,239
Speaker 1: how how could you ever expect them to be as

1076
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 1: fully engaged the way we are to get up in

1077
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 1: the morning, they go to work, they do the thing,

1078
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:26,399
Speaker 1: take care of their kids. And I would never want,

1079
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:28,720
Speaker 1: you know, the average American to be in a position

1080
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 1: where it's like they have to be thinking about the

1081
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 1: war like on the that I mean, that's why we've

1082
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 1: we fought so that they are in general, are not

1083
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 1: in that situation. Um. But yeah, it's a cultural divide.

1084
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:43,800
Speaker 1: And there's some thought that the military today is moving

1085
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 1: into a situation or scenario where it's like today's American

1086
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 1: military is like sort of like Knights of the Round

1087
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 1: Table kind of thing where you have this like small

1088
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 1: professional force and it's also generational, so like the people

1089
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:00,440
Speaker 1: who are joining the military. You're probably joining because your

1090
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 1: dad and your grandfather were right, you were influenced by

1091
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 1: someone directly involved with me. Right, So it's becoming like

1092
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 1: a more and more more culture. Uh. And we don't

1093
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 1: have conscription like during World War Two or even Vietnam,

1094
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:14,320
Speaker 1: which we want. I don't want that, so less and

1095
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 1: less people have that familiarity or that understanding with the military. Um.

1096
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 1: And like South Korea they have conscription um and the

1097
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:25,360
Speaker 1: Philippines they did away with r otc um, but they

1098
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 1: might be bringing something like that back. Yeah. Well, I

1099
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:29,879
Speaker 1: mean if you think about a point whatever percentage point

1100
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 1: zero percentage of the of the population is in the military, right.

1101
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 1: I don't know the number I should have looked at up,

1102
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 1: but whatever it is, it's quite small. So that my

1103
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 1: point is what keeps us alive after we die. It's

1104
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:42,840
Speaker 1: a continued stories. And it was kind of like that

1105
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:45,879
Speaker 1: tradition of talking about my uncle. Well, if we only

1106
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:48,880
Speaker 1: have point zero something percent of the dudes doing it

1107
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 1: over a couple of generations, that just goes away. So's

1108
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So in a weird way,

1109
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 1: that's that's where it kind of just it just erases itself.

1110
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 1: By time. You know. That's why on a show recently

1111
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 1: we had it on a guy Jim downing Pearl Harbor

1112
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 1: survivor and it's crazy to think we're the last of

1113
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 1: unbelievable that's going to talk to Pearl Harbor survivors, Holocaust survivors.

1114
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:12,880
Speaker 1: By the time maybe I have kids, or by the

1115
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 1: time your daughter is as a teenager, these guys won't

1116
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:20,319
Speaker 1: be around. Absolutely, even the Vietnam veterans are getting older.

1117
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:23,440
Speaker 1: If you think they're getting in their seventies now, yeah, dude,

1118
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 1: there are those cats? Are those they're up there now? Anyway,

1119
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 1: So anyway, buzz kill here, No, No, that's not a

1120
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 1: buzz kill. It's actually I think I'm hopeful. You know

1121
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:35,880
Speaker 1: I'm hopeful, but I'm also just realistic. You also know,

1122
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 1: you never know who's watching this Facebook live right now,

1123
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 1: and you might have just heard about Gallant FUS. So

1124
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 1: I mean there's a positive too, And if there's some

1125
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:44,360
Speaker 1: of your there's someone out there listening right now. I

1126
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 1: will say this seriously, if because you have a lot

1127
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:49,400
Speaker 1: of military guys listening to you, guys and give a

1128
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 1: ship what you say. If you're listening to this and

1129
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:54,880
Speaker 1: you're kind of treading that line before you do it,

1130
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:57,360
Speaker 1: before you do something like that, and just and just

1131
00:52:57,520 --> 00:52:59,319
Speaker 1: destroy all the people who you wait may or may

1132
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 1: not know love you. Just get give us, as Kurt

1133
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 1: Schlichter said, just give us a chance, call one of us.

1134
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 1: If someone called me and said that's it for me,

1135
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 1: would you do? Would you do anything? You move heaven

1136
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 1: and earth for them? But half the time, like I

1137
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 1: had no idea. So just you know, don't look for

1138
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 1: the government to help you. The v A and they try,

1139
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 1: but you know, we cared the most about each other

1140
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 1: down range. It was us. It was just us. And

1141
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:23,359
Speaker 1: so it's kind of that way now. So if you're

1142
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:25,839
Speaker 1: listening to this and there's you're having a bad time, man,

1143
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 1: hit up one of your buddies. Trust me, he will

1144
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 1: be there for you. And I think that's the only

1145
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 1: way to start it right now, because we just isolate

1146
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 1: ourselves and and it's just kind of the culture we're in.

1147
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 1: It's a warrior culture. I'm actually writing a book about it.

1148
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 1: I got a deal that I'm writing about looking for you.

1149
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 1: Just you put out a weapon's book there, Yeah, that

1150
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 1: was a long time ago, and I want I want

1151
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 1: to call that book It was supposed to be a

1152
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 1: fun book called The Green Beret's Guide to to Lazy

1153
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:52,440
Speaker 1: Street Survival, which I thought was a cool title, and

1154
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 1: the publisher was like, we don't. We don't want the

1155
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:58,440
Speaker 1: people to, you know, misconstrue that it's not an official

1156
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 1: Green bad I said, people listen, I said, let's let's

1157
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 1: talk to Brandon Webb. You throw the name Seal on

1158
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:08,400
Speaker 1: a book, and every motherfucker is gonna buy. So if

1159
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:10,880
Speaker 1: you throw green Beret on there, yeah, Okay, we're not

1160
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:13,359
Speaker 1: as sexy as the Seals, right, but we don't. They

1161
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 1: tend to have better hair, except for you have great

1162
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 1: hair still, Jack. But it's like you know what I mean,

1163
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 1: if if But they just didn't understand that. I was like,

1164
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:20,480
Speaker 1: if you put green bray on it, because that's what

1165
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 1: I was. I was still in at the time. I

1166
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 1: was like, people are gonna be interested in that. I

1167
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:25,279
Speaker 1: want to I want to have a fun and they

1168
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 1: made it very straight. But I'm you know, I'm in

1169
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 1: called again for people who wants it's called it's called

1170
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:32,880
Speaker 1: an Improvised Weaponry, how to Survive with Everything's it's a

1171
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:34,360
Speaker 1: lot of fun. I have a signed coffee by you

1172
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 1: it's almost comparable to Quinn Emerson Navy Seals Deadly Skills.

1173
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:40,440
Speaker 1: It's a similar but it's a lot of tongue in

1174
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 1: cheek stuff. It's a lot of fun. I talked about

1175
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:44,920
Speaker 1: some experiences and it's just sort of like, you know,

1176
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 1: creativity stuff, like when you're with your wife a girlfriend

1177
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 1: out at a restaurant and you know, you just start

1178
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 1: playing creative games. Like you realize right now, I could

1179
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:54,359
Speaker 1: pick that mug up and break it over your head.

1180
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:56,840
Speaker 1: You wouldn't even be able to stop me. Oh that's interesting, asshole.

1181
00:54:56,920 --> 00:54:59,480
Speaker 1: I could take this rigid menu and shove it under

1182
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 1: your throat, and I said, just make sure you don't

1183
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:02,799
Speaker 1: say it loud enough so people are like, we gotta

1184
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:04,640
Speaker 1: call the cops. But it's like kind of fun because

1185
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:06,840
Speaker 1: because I think we gets people jammed up always is

1186
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:08,919
Speaker 1: they're just not you know, like I said, don't don't

1187
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 1: walk out of a parking lot in Walmart with your

1188
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 1: head buried in your cell phone at midnight that you're getting.

1189
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 1: But people do that stuff all the time. I talked

1190
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 1: about this this Indian woman, she was like sixty seven

1191
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:24,720
Speaker 1: years old. She fought off a tiger with a farm

1192
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:27,080
Speaker 1: implement and she fought this thing for like forty five

1193
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 1: minutes of walk back to the village. She didn't have

1194
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:32,319
Speaker 1: any martial arts training. You know, I basically talked about

1195
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:34,440
Speaker 1: unleashing the inner chimp. No one wants to fight a

1196
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 1: crazy dude, you know. Uh So that that was that book.

1197
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 1: But I'm I'm working on a book now called Warrior Culture.

1198
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:42,839
Speaker 1: Um has better not steal. I've already got a thing

1199
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 1: on it. But it's a it's about what we are

1200
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:48,400
Speaker 1: because I mean, I'm an anthropology degree. I've kept that going.

1201
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 1: But with you guys are pretty well educated, and I

1202
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 1: want to tie that in the anthropological aspect of of

1203
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 1: society's there's a good reason why they have warrior cultures.

1204
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:00,040
Speaker 1: And you know the dirty secret is too, it's not

1205
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:02,719
Speaker 1: just because we're all altruistic gods like us like to fight,

1206
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:05,600
Speaker 1: and it would behoove a society to find a place

1207
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:10,400
Speaker 1: for us that's not destructive to the society. So get

1208
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:12,799
Speaker 1: us ready for battle. How us fight your enemies, because

1209
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 1: otherwise we can become really bad criminals. It's the same.

1210
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 1: I think that's why the g I Bill exists in

1211
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 1: the first place. It's like for a country it's a

1212
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:21,759
Speaker 1: bad thing to have large numbers of unemployed veterans on

1213
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:24,880
Speaker 1: your street. It's not a good idea. Well it's not.

1214
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:28,279
Speaker 1: It's not a good idea. So anyway, man, I look

1215
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:30,760
Speaker 1: at it from a you know, and also warrior culture.

1216
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 1: So what is a warrior in my In my book,

1217
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:35,920
Speaker 1: it is narrowly defined as someone who's gone to war

1218
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 1: or goes to war. So it's not like an m M.

1219
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:40,240
Speaker 1: A fighter is not a warrior. He's a fighter unless

1220
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:43,440
Speaker 1: it's Tim Kennedy's Tim Kenny. That's Tim Kenny, is all

1221
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:44,880
Speaker 1: of those things. But you know what I'm saying, So

1222
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:46,440
Speaker 1: for the world warrior in this case, it's got to

1223
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:48,799
Speaker 1: be someone actually goes to combat and it's a life

1224
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 1: or death situation. Not a social justice warrior. Not. No,

1225
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 1: I'm not saying. I don't say that mocking. You're not

1226
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 1: a cancer warrior. Yeah we can. But and also culture

1227
00:56:57,680 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 1: is a set of learned behaviors. So what is how

1228
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 1: do you does that learn behavior set that gets passed

1229
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 1: on through different societies, And there's good and there's bad.

1230
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 1: There's really good things about it, and there's some things

1231
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 1: that are self destructive. And finding where that where you

1232
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:12,120
Speaker 1: can tattle that first societies is actually always a challenge. Anyway,

1233
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:15,760
Speaker 1: what any idea when that will be out? I should

1234
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 1: be done with it, I'm thinking in the next I

1235
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:21,959
Speaker 1: want to say about Fall. I think about Fall. Yeah,

1236
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:24,640
Speaker 1: I was going to mention to you Jack, other than

1237
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 1: the article that you wrote, which we covered earlier, of

1238
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 1: you going to South Korea, you're writing what like a

1239
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 1: twenty something part series on Korea on yeah, on on debt. K.

1240
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:39,480
Speaker 1: Let's get into that, because I it's every few days

1241
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 1: I'm seeing a new article on software dot com from you,

1242
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 1: and pretty well, yeah, that's because, um, so I do

1243
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:46,920
Speaker 1: this all the time when I try to like research

1244
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 1: a topic or an article. Is that I, um, I

1245
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 1: always underestimate how much research I should do. You underestimate

1246
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:59,000
Speaker 1: or over overestimate. So anyway, long story short, what I

1247
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 1: do is I keep thinking I need to gather more information,

1248
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 1: so I do more interviews more, just more interviews. And

1249
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 1: then I realized I have like fifty pages of notes

1250
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:10,680
Speaker 1: that for one article, and I'm like, holy sh so

1251
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 1: I ended up so this article is twenty pages long.

1252
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 1: And also the detachment it's the Special Forces resident team

1253
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:21,080
Speaker 1: in Korea. They stay in South Korea. The guys, the personnel,

1254
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 1: individual people rotate in and out, but they stay there

1255
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:27,920
Speaker 1: in Korea and UH provide a liaison function to the

1256
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:33,960
Speaker 1: South Korean Special Forces. So and it's decay is a

1257
00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 1: little bit bigger than an O D A plus some

1258
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:39,800
Speaker 1: support guys, a couple of riggers, admin guys, whatever, and

1259
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:43,680
Speaker 1: UH they each guy on the debt is assigned to

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Speaker 1: liaison with a different special Forces South Korean Special Forces

1261
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:50,320
Speaker 1: unit and they're the guy that knows everything about that

1262
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 1: special Forces brigade and everything about everything and their office

1263
00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 1: many times is right next to the brigade commander. And

1264
00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:02,400
Speaker 1: we're talking about a E seven E eight that has

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00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:08,240
Speaker 1: tremendous influence over that's a big job for over doctrine training.

1266
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 1: Who is advising a Special Forces colonel. That's a big job. Yeah,

1267
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 1: And there's over the years there's been some jealousy from

1268
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:17,840
Speaker 1: the officer cast that they don't like that there's n

1269
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 1: c O s doing this, and they've tried to disband

1270
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 1: the unit a few yeah. Yeah, Um. So the debt

1271
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 1: started in nineteen sixty is about the paperwork is a

1272
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 1: little dicey, and there's some controversy about when exactly it started.

1273
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:35,000
Speaker 1: It was first known as Detachment forty and it's been

1274
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:39,080
Speaker 1: going since then, um and has had tremendous influence over

1275
00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 1: South Korean special Forces and special operations in general. UM.

1276
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Speaker 1: And I mean I I I would like to think

1277
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:49,640
Speaker 1: I did some good work on it, and I uncovered

1278
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:53,040
Speaker 1: some really interesting stuff like green berets going out with

1279
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:57,000
Speaker 1: South Korean special Forces in the nine sixties hunting down

1280
00:59:57,040 --> 00:59:59,479
Speaker 1: North Korean infiltrators. Did not know about that. I would

1281
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:01,800
Speaker 1: love to hear abo that. I'm not surprised when you

1282
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:05,160
Speaker 1: say it, but still we don't hear about it. Yeah.

1283
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:07,600
Speaker 1: And I actually have pictures of some of it that

1284
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:11,640
Speaker 1: published of like North Korean infiltrators shot up and everything. Yeah,

1285
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:14,000
Speaker 1: it was like the wild West. And you have to understand,

1286
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 1: like the Korean War wrecked that peninsula and there were

1287
01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:20,960
Speaker 1: people thought it was never gonna recover. Um. The guys,

1288
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:22,560
Speaker 1: some of the guys I interviewed who are in the

1289
01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:26,480
Speaker 1: detachment the nineteen sixties describe how in Soul, in the

1290
01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:30,959
Speaker 1: capital of South Korea, dirt roads people living in Chant

1291
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Speaker 1: Can you imagine that, I mean horse drawn carriages are

1292
01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:38,439
Speaker 1: mule drawn carts. Um, you know one of the guys

1293
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Speaker 1: provided me with all these pictures, and one of them

1294
01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:43,440
Speaker 1: is a guy riding a bicycle with a pig tied

1295
01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:45,320
Speaker 1: down to the back of the bicycle, and he's like,

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01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:47,080
Speaker 1: what they would do is get the pig drunk on

1297
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:50,160
Speaker 1: like soju until it passes out, and then tie it

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01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:52,440
Speaker 1: to like a little bench on the back of the motorcycle.

1299
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Speaker 1: And that's how they transported the pig from one village

1300
01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:58,640
Speaker 1: to the next. So is pretty good. Yeah, they like it.

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01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:02,920
Speaker 1: There are very few have roads and it's in the

1302
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:06,640
Speaker 1: nine sixties. Yeah, there's like one hotel and soul And

1303
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:08,280
Speaker 1: look at it now. Man, I mean I've never been,

1304
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:10,560
Speaker 1: but I've seen it. It's amazing. I just came back

1305
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:13,480
Speaker 1: and it is a triumph of capitalism. It is, isn't it.

1306
01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:16,880
Speaker 1: It's beautiful. That city reminds me my first impression of it.

1307
01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:20,040
Speaker 1: It reminds me of Switzerland. How well the Indo structure

1308
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:23,120
Speaker 1: has developed, that good, how well thought out and well planned.

1309
01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:25,440
Speaker 1: It is um And I'm sure there's parts of it

1310
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:27,360
Speaker 1: that aren't so rosy, but I mean it is the

1311
01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:31,120
Speaker 1: first world country. Yeah, it's part of the modern world.

1312
01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:36,880
Speaker 1: All those um stereotypes or even preconceptions that I had

1313
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:39,960
Speaker 1: of of East Asia. Um, you know, like something from

1314
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:42,960
Speaker 1: an Indiana Jones movie, or it's not like that, like that,

1315
01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 1: It's not like that at all. That's like, well, I

1316
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:47,160
Speaker 1: spent quite a bit of time in Singapore's I said.

1317
01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:49,360
Speaker 1: But I already knew that about Singapore. I think people

1318
01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:51,320
Speaker 1: might not think that about Korea. My father has spent

1319
01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:53,600
Speaker 1: a lot of time there because he was working in Singapore.

1320
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Speaker 1: It's an interesting place. Do you think that North lever

1321
01:01:56,880 --> 01:02:00,680
Speaker 1: be reunited with the South and anyway? Or is that?

1322
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:03,840
Speaker 1: It's hard to say? I mean people there are different

1323
01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:06,240
Speaker 1: people with different opinions. Um, some of the people I

1324
01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:09,000
Speaker 1: interviewed say, yeah, it could happen tomorrow for some of

1325
01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:11,600
Speaker 1: the reasons I was saying, obviously, Um, there are other

1326
01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:13,400
Speaker 1: people who are like, you know, I used to think so,

1327
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:18,240
Speaker 1: but I'm very skeptical so much now. Um, I think.

1328
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:21,520
Speaker 1: I think it's possible. I think, but it's something that

1329
01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:24,400
Speaker 1: we have to plan for and be ready for it

1330
01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:26,919
Speaker 1: and be ready for and there are like some things

1331
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:31,440
Speaker 1: we can do, like propaganda operations. There are some positive

1332
01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:34,000
Speaker 1: signs like so in the past, North Korea had such

1333
01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:37,479
Speaker 1: a stranglehold over the people of the country. The North

1334
01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:41,480
Speaker 1: Koreans thought they were the lucky ones right in the south.

1335
01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:44,320
Speaker 1: The South are the ones. They have their living under tyranny.

1336
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:47,160
Speaker 1: Look at them, they're suffering. They're suffering over there. So

1337
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:50,360
Speaker 1: that's how propagandas they were. That's that was in the past.

1338
01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:54,400
Speaker 1: Now today in the present. Um, most of the people

1339
01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:57,120
Speaker 1: in North Korea they know that they can't be under

1340
01:02:57,160 --> 01:03:00,320
Speaker 1: any illusion. Now they're now they're aware. Like one story

1341
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:03,880
Speaker 1: that a Special Force in sergeant major was telling me was, um,

1342
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:07,040
Speaker 1: they learned this through North Korean defectoris was that the

1343
01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:11,640
Speaker 1: North Koreans have been growing marijuana and selling it to

1344
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:15,080
Speaker 1: the Chinese. The Chinese are in exchange. Part of the

1345
01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:20,560
Speaker 1: payment is UM DVDs from South Korea Gee and the soaps,

1346
01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:24,080
Speaker 1: the South Korean soap operas have become very popular in

1347
01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:27,440
Speaker 1: North Korea. And the people after lights out, you know,

1348
01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:31,240
Speaker 1: they're they're getting their DVDs and putting the forbidden DVDs.

1349
01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:34,280
Speaker 1: And that's kind of how that stuff happens though. That's

1350
01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:36,680
Speaker 1: how that that's how that that cascade maybe starts to

1351
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:38,880
Speaker 1: go because you know, instead of like you said, as

1352
01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:42,840
Speaker 1: a military like let's know, like these tastes of culture,

1353
01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:46,040
Speaker 1: these tastes of like glimpses of freedom that doesn't go

1354
01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:48,840
Speaker 1: away once. Once you know something, you can't uh know it.

1355
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:53,440
Speaker 1: It was a culture, a country that trusts itself, that

1356
01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:56,200
Speaker 1: has freedom. You know, you open it up and you

1357
01:03:56,360 --> 01:03:59,360
Speaker 1: you let people see and experience your country, and you

1358
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:03,200
Speaker 1: believe that your system is really legitimately better. Evil countries

1359
01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:05,520
Speaker 1: like North Korea are going to try to clamp down

1360
01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:10,160
Speaker 1: because they they're corrupt, they're criminals. Um. So the good

1361
01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:13,240
Speaker 1: news is that people of North Korea are learning about

1362
01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:15,360
Speaker 1: the rest of the world, and they're learning about their

1363
01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:18,800
Speaker 1: cousins over in the South. Um. And that could be

1364
01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:23,440
Speaker 1: a positive development that in time leads to some sort

1365
01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:26,560
Speaker 1: of um, some sort of change revision. Yeah, some sort

1366
01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:29,360
Speaker 1: of change. Yeah. I think that's that seems more more

1367
01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:36,000
Speaker 1: more possible or you know, supportable than you know, nuclear war.

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Speaker 1: That's that could happen. Yeah, No, I don't think so.

1369
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Speaker 1: And the other interesting thing too is people have asked,

1370
01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:44,200
Speaker 1: you know, well, why why is America still in South

1371
01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:49,120
Speaker 1: Korea and in a situation where today we partly thanks

1372
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Speaker 1: to the United States, partly because of the perseverance of

1373
01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:54,640
Speaker 1: the South Korean people we have gotten their military to

1374
01:04:54,680 --> 01:04:56,640
Speaker 1: the point where they can defend themselves. They can fight

1375
01:04:56,680 --> 01:05:01,040
Speaker 1: their own fight. They don't need America. But without American help,

1376
01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:04,360
Speaker 1: the costs are going to be much higher. Their country

1377
01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:07,280
Speaker 1: will again be wrecked, Whereas if the United States is

1378
01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:10,520
Speaker 1: there and helps and participates, the damage won't be as extensive.

1379
01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:13,400
Speaker 1: It'll still be extensive, but it won't be as bad. Yeah,

1380
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:16,440
Speaker 1: there's gotta be. There's also the element of moral support too.

1381
01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:18,840
Speaker 1: I think that was one of the things that you know,

1382
01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:23,560
Speaker 1: it's it's de turrence, it is de turrets. Yeah, because

1383
01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:25,680
Speaker 1: the North Koreans know if they invade, they're not just

1384
01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:27,720
Speaker 1: going to be facing South Korea. They're gonna be facing

1385
01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:30,120
Speaker 1: the United States. Big guy, you might kick our ass

1386
01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:34,320
Speaker 1: in the first twelve hours, but there's carrier groups coming.

1387
01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:37,800
Speaker 1: You're gonna yeah, funk with the second I d and

1388
01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:40,600
Speaker 1: do something like that, it's we're gonna crush that. They

1389
01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:42,880
Speaker 1: know they will be get out of the way, they

1390
01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:45,320
Speaker 1: will be facing Americans. Yeah. And that's an interesting thing

1391
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:49,840
Speaker 1: too that I inquired about, was if with China get

1392
01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:55,080
Speaker 1: involved and the prevailing wisdom, I guess you could say,

1393
01:05:55,160 --> 01:05:58,960
Speaker 1: and this is partly based off of our talks, you know,

1394
01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:02,480
Speaker 1: back channel communitycations also with the Chinese, is that if

1395
01:06:02,560 --> 01:06:05,600
Speaker 1: the North Koreans instigate the war, they start the Chinese.

1396
01:06:06,560 --> 01:06:08,240
Speaker 1: That's the vibe. I mean, I'm nobody, I don't know,

1397
01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:10,680
Speaker 1: but I think that's what would happen, because again, there's

1398
01:06:10,720 --> 01:06:12,600
Speaker 1: nothing in it for them to not do that. There's

1399
01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:16,720
Speaker 1: also some thought that if if they did instigate the war,

1400
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:21,040
Speaker 1: if the North did that, the country that North Korea

1401
01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:24,080
Speaker 1: may end up being divided between the Chinese and the

1402
01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:28,280
Speaker 1: South Koreans. That's interesting. A number of different scenarios could

1403
01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:30,840
Speaker 1: play out, and I don't think I'm qualified to say

1404
01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:35,880
Speaker 1: we're a couple of oldest guys spitballing it. Yeah, you know,

1405
01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:39,320
Speaker 1: just to our reset for the people watching on Facebook Live,

1406
01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:41,880
Speaker 1: this is the first time that we're doing this. Uh.

1407
01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:43,880
Speaker 1: If you want to see more of this type of

1408
01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:45,800
Speaker 1: footage and here these type of shows, you can join

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01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:48,680
Speaker 1: now at Software Radio dot us where we're doing two

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01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:51,959
Speaker 1: shows a week. So if you're just tuning in. Editor

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01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:55,240
Speaker 1: in chief of Soft Rep Green Beret Army Ranger Jack

1412
01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:59,800
Speaker 1: Murphy and Green Beret Mattress Sergeant Terry shapherd Uh. Back

1413
01:06:59,840 --> 01:07:01,800
Speaker 1: to what we were saying, though, so this this series

1414
01:07:01,840 --> 01:07:03,840
Speaker 1: of articles that you're writing. I noticed these were coming

1415
01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:05,920
Speaker 1: out while you were in South Korea. Did you do

1416
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:07,920
Speaker 1: a lot of this research prior to going and then

1417
01:07:07,960 --> 01:07:10,040
Speaker 1: just put all these out? Yes, I was not doing

1418
01:07:10,080 --> 01:07:13,560
Speaker 1: that research while I was in the Philippines, and while

1419
01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:15,800
Speaker 1: I was in South Korea. I'd have been pretty impressive,

1420
01:07:15,840 --> 01:07:18,120
Speaker 1: you did, I do sleep once in a while, I

1421
01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:21,240
Speaker 1: have been pretty impressively. You know that that article took

1422
01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:24,280
Speaker 1: a really long time to write. It took months and uh,

1423
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Speaker 1: but then I had a twenty page article and I said,

1424
01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:29,040
Speaker 1: you know what this will give some you guys can

1425
01:07:29,120 --> 01:07:31,360
Speaker 1: run this while I'm abroad, so you know, while I'm

1426
01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:33,200
Speaker 1: not around that I'm not writing, you have something that

1427
01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:35,680
Speaker 1: you can use well while we're hitting that because I

1428
01:07:35,720 --> 01:07:37,560
Speaker 1: know we're probably getting close to being on top. We

1429
01:07:37,640 --> 01:07:40,120
Speaker 1: talked a little bit before we started. We've talked quite

1430
01:07:40,120 --> 01:07:44,000
Speaker 1: a bit about Korea obviously, quick, uh, give us a

1431
01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:46,720
Speaker 1: quick right thing about the Philippines. What do you think

1432
01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:49,760
Speaker 1: with you tourte and what's what's the vibe with us

1433
01:07:50,080 --> 01:07:52,760
Speaker 1: with them? Where do you think that's going a big

1434
01:07:52,840 --> 01:07:56,560
Speaker 1: dumb question, But yeah, so the vibe, um, I would

1435
01:07:56,560 --> 01:08:00,800
Speaker 1: say overall positive ya UM do turt thing is one issue.

1436
01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:03,000
Speaker 1: But I would put it this way that the times

1437
01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:06,880
Speaker 1: between the United States and the Philippines are incredibly incredibly strung.

1438
01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:12,240
Speaker 1: Dis likes Trump despite the rhetoric, despite the rhetoric from

1439
01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:15,160
Speaker 1: the President of the Philippines saying you know this and

1440
01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:19,160
Speaker 1: that about America UM, or even our own president UM

1441
01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:21,960
Speaker 1: saying bombastic things. Yes, it does look like the two

1442
01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:25,600
Speaker 1: of them maybe working together. Also, like Trump, it's a

1443
01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:28,519
Speaker 1: little schizophrenics. So one day he's on a Chinese warship

1444
01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:30,879
Speaker 1: shaking hands. The next day he's on a Russian warship.

1445
01:08:31,360 --> 01:08:33,840
Speaker 1: But then I'm cruising around the country. I'm meeting First

1446
01:08:33,840 --> 01:08:37,120
Speaker 1: Special Forces Group guys. I'm meeting guys from Seal Team seven.

1447
01:08:37,400 --> 01:08:40,240
Speaker 1: I'm running into Marsak guys in some remote market on

1448
01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:44,240
Speaker 1: an island. So we are there, We're there, UM, and

1449
01:08:44,400 --> 01:08:49,960
Speaker 1: the the institutional UM relationships between our two countries are

1450
01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:52,280
Speaker 1: so strong and have been there for so long. Like

1451
01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:57,439
Speaker 1: the Filipino Military Academy is modeled off of West Point UH.

1452
01:08:57,720 --> 01:09:01,519
Speaker 1: So many Filipino officers I met had been to UM

1453
01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:04,760
Speaker 1: done their pro postgraduate war school where the US in

1454
01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:07,000
Speaker 1: the US UM I met guys who have been to

1455
01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:09,599
Speaker 1: the Ranger school at Philip Benet remember those. I met

1456
01:09:09,640 --> 01:09:13,160
Speaker 1: guys who graduated from the Q course Stantup Bregg. I

1457
01:09:13,280 --> 01:09:17,800
Speaker 1: met guys who had been trained by green Berets in country. Um,

1458
01:09:18,280 --> 01:09:21,360
Speaker 1: so many, all these sorts of liaisons and relationships. So

1459
01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:25,720
Speaker 1: I don't think that our relationship with the Philippines is

1460
01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:28,519
Speaker 1: necessarily endangered. No, how did you get that thing? And

1461
01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:32,720
Speaker 1: I think you know that that's a relationship worth cultivating.

1462
01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:35,240
Speaker 1: I have to continue to cultivate it. Also, that's another

1463
01:09:35,280 --> 01:09:37,439
Speaker 1: thing we can just push China away from. Yeah, they're good,

1464
01:09:37,479 --> 01:09:41,800
Speaker 1: they're good people. You're right, Um. Pragmatically, strategically. Um, that's

1465
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Speaker 1: another area that we're in the South China Sea and

1466
01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:46,920
Speaker 1: that we need to We need to check the Chinese

1467
01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:50,800
Speaker 1: aggression and sounds China see and the Philippines are could

1468
01:09:50,840 --> 01:09:53,640
Speaker 1: be a part of that. That the Philippine people, the

1469
01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:56,120
Speaker 1: people I interviewed, at least they feel that China is

1470
01:09:56,160 --> 01:10:00,439
Speaker 1: bullying them. You'll note that the Hague ruled on on

1471
01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:04,360
Speaker 1: favor of the Philippines, saying that yes, this the Scarborough Shoal,

1472
01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:10,400
Speaker 1: the Spratley Islands, that's Filippino sovereign territory. The Chinese should

1473
01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:12,960
Speaker 1: not be doing that. Um. So they feel that they're

1474
01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:16,000
Speaker 1: being bullied by the Chinese. Then they believe that the

1475
01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:19,640
Speaker 1: you know, they're realistic. Yeah, the Philippines isn't gonna win

1476
01:10:19,680 --> 01:10:22,559
Speaker 1: in a war with China. If they did do something

1477
01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:24,160
Speaker 1: to us, we would let them into the country and

1478
01:10:24,200 --> 01:10:27,519
Speaker 1: then go like VC style guerrilla war on them. Um.

1479
01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:32,080
Speaker 1: But they so they're looking for diplomatic options. Um So.

1480
01:10:32,479 --> 01:10:36,439
Speaker 1: I think that's the general vibe there. Another larger trend

1481
01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:40,439
Speaker 1: I was seeing was that the the Philippine government needs

1482
01:10:40,479 --> 01:10:44,160
Speaker 1: some work with um maintenance maintenance of equipment. So they

1483
01:10:44,640 --> 01:10:48,320
Speaker 1: procure equipment from America and elsewhere, but they don't maintain it.

1484
01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:50,479
Speaker 1: So that's that happens a lot of places. That's a

1485
01:10:50,520 --> 01:10:55,120
Speaker 1: real problem. Yeah, we've been without constant American engagement. The

1486
01:10:55,400 --> 01:10:59,880
Speaker 1: ship breaks whose starts breaking down, the helicopters, the night vision,

1487
01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:02,760
Speaker 1: the rifles, all that cool guy gear we give them.

1488
01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:05,360
Speaker 1: So that's something that UM. I hope that they can

1489
01:11:05,439 --> 01:11:07,960
Speaker 1: improve and maybe we can help them improve through some

1490
01:11:08,120 --> 01:11:12,479
Speaker 1: logistics work. Um. And then the other trend would be, uh,

1491
01:11:12,760 --> 01:11:17,200
Speaker 1: there is a movement to create a so calm organization

1492
01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:20,880
Speaker 1: In the Philippines they have an organization called so Calm,

1493
01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:23,439
Speaker 1: but unlike ours, it is a so Calm for their army,

1494
01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:27,840
Speaker 1: so that white for all the branches, White Reaction Regiment, U,

1495
01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:31,719
Speaker 1: Scout Rangers, special Forces, just the army units. UM doesn't

1496
01:11:31,720 --> 01:11:35,679
Speaker 1: include NAVSAG, doesn't include MARSAG as of now, so they're

1497
01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:39,000
Speaker 1: working to do that. And likewise in Korea they don't

1498
01:11:39,040 --> 01:11:42,360
Speaker 1: have a so Calm, and they're working on the idea

1499
01:11:42,439 --> 01:11:44,720
Speaker 1: has been planted and they're trying to work on that

1500
01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:47,280
Speaker 1: and both of those countries to actually get that established.

1501
01:11:49,040 --> 01:11:51,880
Speaker 1: There you go, Jack murfree back from Asia. Last question.

1502
01:11:51,880 --> 01:11:53,960
Speaker 1: I gotta ask Jack because I saw that in our

1503
01:11:54,360 --> 01:11:56,960
Speaker 1: little private writer's group. You have some pictures of the

1504
01:11:57,320 --> 01:11:59,840
Speaker 1: of the food there. So how's the cuisine? And in

1505
01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:02,120
Speaker 1: both South Korea and the Philippines, I saw like a

1506
01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:04,760
Speaker 1: pig roast, right, the food is awesome. Yeah, the pig roast.

1507
01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:06,800
Speaker 1: They do it over a spit in the Philippines and

1508
01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:08,880
Speaker 1: then they like cut it into like little squares so

1509
01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:12,240
Speaker 1: you take the skin in the meeting. Amazing. The food

1510
01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:15,920
Speaker 1: was amazing. Um. Korea is very good too. I found

1511
01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:19,120
Speaker 1: some pretty interesting restaurants over there. I wanted to eat

1512
01:12:19,160 --> 01:12:21,160
Speaker 1: the live octopus. I didn't get the chance though, you

1513
01:12:21,200 --> 01:12:23,839
Speaker 1: know where they cut it and then the tentacles are squirming.

1514
01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:29,040
Speaker 1: And the Kim She was great. I love the Kim She.

1515
01:12:29,800 --> 01:12:31,720
Speaker 1: I always think of Kim She is more of a well,

1516
01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:33,800
Speaker 1: I guess it is all of Korea. Yeah, that's true,

1517
01:12:33,800 --> 01:12:35,479
Speaker 1: because I love Korean food. I don't know why I'm

1518
01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:38,519
Speaker 1: thinking North Korean South greates Probably the same quisine, Yeah, ain't.

1519
01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:43,559
Speaker 1: I didn't get to hang out with Kim John. Um,

1520
01:12:44,760 --> 01:12:47,240
Speaker 1: so yeah, No, food was great. The Philippines is a

1521
01:12:47,400 --> 01:12:49,200
Speaker 1: is a blast. The Philippines has a little bit more

1522
01:12:49,200 --> 01:12:52,360
Speaker 1: of a wild West kind of climate to it. And

1523
01:12:52,479 --> 01:12:56,400
Speaker 1: I and the people there, I think like culturally I

1524
01:12:56,479 --> 01:13:00,280
Speaker 1: could drive with them pretty easily, you know, understand them. Um.

1525
01:13:00,400 --> 01:13:02,120
Speaker 1: Maybe it's because I was hanging out with the soldiers

1526
01:13:02,160 --> 01:13:04,800
Speaker 1: so much and you kind of have that in common. Um.

1527
01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:11,439
Speaker 1: South Korea is like a true East Asian powerhouse country. Um, totally.

1528
01:13:11,640 --> 01:13:13,599
Speaker 1: It was interesting to me. This was really my first

1529
01:13:13,720 --> 01:13:16,439
Speaker 1: time traveling around Asia. You know, I've spent a lot

1530
01:13:16,479 --> 01:13:18,680
Speaker 1: of time in Europe, Middle East, spent some time in

1531
01:13:18,760 --> 01:13:21,880
Speaker 1: South America, a lot of time in Central America. Sometime

1532
01:13:21,960 --> 01:13:24,519
Speaker 1: in uh in Africa. This is my first time really

1533
01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:27,840
Speaker 1: being in Asia, and it's just interesting walking around um

1534
01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:30,360
Speaker 1: South Korea in a place that is, this is a

1535
01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:33,960
Speaker 1: totally different culture. I've never been to Asia at all.

1536
01:13:34,040 --> 01:13:36,879
Speaker 1: That's something that uh, that's something also that the American

1537
01:13:36,920 --> 01:13:39,360
Speaker 1: Special Forces guys need to understand, because I heard some

1538
01:13:39,479 --> 01:13:43,640
Speaker 1: complaints from the Filipinos. They're like, listen, we're not Afghans,

1539
01:13:44,439 --> 01:13:48,160
Speaker 1: We're not ab you don't come here from Afghanistan talking

1540
01:13:48,200 --> 01:13:50,559
Speaker 1: to us. Like where I thinking we're yeah, calling us

1541
01:13:50,600 --> 01:13:53,960
Speaker 1: haji and all that. Yeah, I thinking we're illiterate dirt farmers. Yeah,

1542
01:13:54,160 --> 01:13:56,600
Speaker 1: well that's interesting that actually, you know, I would think that,

1543
01:13:56,880 --> 01:13:58,519
Speaker 1: you know, that's because the first Group guys have been

1544
01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:01,200
Speaker 1: away from there. Maybe. I mean, I'm not a first

1545
01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:03,439
Speaker 1: group guy, but you know, if everyone's been over in

1546
01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:06,720
Speaker 1: the sandbox in some some capacity, so I mean that's

1547
01:14:06,760 --> 01:14:09,960
Speaker 1: always been first group's responsibility. So yeah, you gotta remember man,

1548
01:14:10,040 --> 01:14:12,240
Speaker 1: that you know, they're not the same. Yeah, these guys

1549
01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:14,040
Speaker 1: have been in there good in the woods, you know,

1550
01:14:14,160 --> 01:14:16,040
Speaker 1: and a lot of them have more trigger time in

1551
01:14:16,120 --> 01:14:17,760
Speaker 1: the field than a lot of young green But I

1552
01:14:17,840 --> 01:14:20,040
Speaker 1: was gonna say that those guys have done the real

1553
01:14:20,160 --> 01:14:22,599
Speaker 1: thing for a long time, so don't insult them. Yeah,

1554
01:14:22,680 --> 01:14:25,160
Speaker 1: I mean doing like stuff we don't do anymore, like

1555
01:14:25,439 --> 01:14:29,439
Speaker 1: small old school field craft stuff, ambushes raise right, that

1556
01:14:32,240 --> 01:14:36,280
Speaker 1: tactical um and and at times up to entire battalion

1557
01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:39,360
Speaker 1: level movement to contact through the jungle where the battalion

1558
01:14:39,479 --> 01:14:41,720
Speaker 1: HQ is in the field. And if people don't know

1559
01:14:41,840 --> 01:14:46,080
Speaker 1: this that are listening, the jungle sucks. It's awful. I

1560
01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:49,960
Speaker 1: think that's probably my least favorite place on Earth to operate.

1561
01:14:50,120 --> 01:14:51,880
Speaker 1: I just I don't know, man, I just it just

1562
01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:55,200
Speaker 1: crushes me. I mean I never was in group there,

1563
01:14:55,720 --> 01:14:57,880
Speaker 1: but I went to you know, j OTC is is

1564
01:14:58,000 --> 01:15:01,040
Speaker 1: Jungle Jungle Training Corps s down in Fort Sherman. There

1565
01:15:01,120 --> 01:15:03,840
Speaker 1: was a recall JRTC but Panama and Panama and it

1566
01:15:03,960 --> 01:15:06,839
Speaker 1: was dude, I was like, this is awful. It's awful.

1567
01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:09,800
Speaker 1: It's awful. And because everything is, everything in the jungle

1568
01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:11,960
Speaker 1: just seems like it's there to kick your ass. You know,

1569
01:15:12,080 --> 01:15:13,960
Speaker 1: my buddy John Hudson, who was in that show with me, Dude,

1570
01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:16,080
Speaker 1: you're screwed. He's one of the chiefs here, instructors out

1571
01:15:16,120 --> 01:15:18,240
Speaker 1: for the for the Brits. He's great one of the

1572
01:15:18,320 --> 01:15:20,400
Speaker 1: best dudes I know. He's the guy who kind of

1573
01:15:20,560 --> 01:15:23,479
Speaker 1: just went off the reservation during his episode where he

1574
01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:25,680
Speaker 1: didn't even try with his challenge. Oh no, that was

1575
01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:28,320
Speaker 1: a different guy because I thought British. It was a British. No. No,

1576
01:15:28,479 --> 01:15:30,720
Speaker 1: he don't know. John would never go off the reservation.

1577
01:15:30,800 --> 01:15:33,040
Speaker 1: I don't think. Uh. The guy's like, I'm just gonna

1578
01:15:33,080 --> 01:15:36,080
Speaker 1: enjoy myself. That was Tom Moore. Yeah, yeah, No. John

1579
01:15:36,160 --> 01:15:38,080
Speaker 1: Hudson is the dude you want to have with you

1580
01:15:38,320 --> 01:15:40,880
Speaker 1: if things go bad. He's actually written some of their

1581
01:15:40,920 --> 01:15:43,479
Speaker 1: manuals and he was telling me because they he's you know,

1582
01:15:43,560 --> 01:15:45,519
Speaker 1: the Brits are in there, in there in Brunei and

1583
01:15:45,520 --> 01:15:48,600
Speaker 1: they go to all the other places. Believes he was

1584
01:15:48,640 --> 01:15:50,559
Speaker 1: just inn believes not that long ago exactly. Yeah, they

1585
01:15:50,600 --> 01:15:52,800
Speaker 1: still they still do stuff there. Yeah, that's what I think.

1586
01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:54,680
Speaker 1: He said. He was there definitely Brunei and he's all

1587
01:15:54,680 --> 01:15:57,759
Speaker 1: the jungle places and I said, I hate the jungle

1588
01:15:57,920 --> 01:16:00,519
Speaker 1: and he's like, he's cool. He's like, no, I love it, mate.

1589
01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:02,479
Speaker 1: He's like, you know, it's it's like the jungle is

1590
01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:04,920
Speaker 1: one big grocery store. The problem is you don't know

1591
01:16:04,960 --> 01:16:07,000
Speaker 1: what any of the labels are. I was like, yeah,

1592
01:16:07,080 --> 01:16:08,800
Speaker 1: well that's fine. When I go to seven leven, I

1593
01:16:08,880 --> 01:16:11,040
Speaker 1: want a hot dog and I don't want to guess so,

1594
01:16:11,320 --> 01:16:12,840
Speaker 1: and it's it's a place that's got a lot of

1595
01:16:12,880 --> 01:16:15,720
Speaker 1: stuff that could kill you, and there's water everywhere you

1596
01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:17,599
Speaker 1: can't drink it. You know, It's like, it's just one

1597
01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:20,439
Speaker 1: of those things. I don't know why, dude, I I

1598
01:16:20,520 --> 01:16:22,960
Speaker 1: hate the jungle with dude, you're screwed. I'll stn't always

1599
01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:27,519
Speaker 1: remember Jake's wig Navy seal. So it started. They gave him,

1600
01:16:27,520 --> 01:16:29,760
Speaker 1: I think a can of tuna fish right with his

1601
01:16:30,120 --> 01:16:32,639
Speaker 1: stuff that he needed, and he was like, I don't

1602
01:16:32,680 --> 01:16:35,080
Speaker 1: need fish, screw this, and he just got rid of it.

1603
01:16:36,240 --> 01:16:38,720
Speaker 1: He had I guess what that was me because I

1604
01:16:38,840 --> 01:16:40,720
Speaker 1: knew he didn't like seafood. He and by the way,

1605
01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:42,760
Speaker 1: he grew up on the Northwest coast in the United States.

1606
01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:45,360
Speaker 1: He's from Washington State. He goes, man, I hate fish,

1607
01:16:45,640 --> 01:16:48,800
Speaker 1: and he talked because man, I hate fish. Yeah, so

1608
01:16:48,840 --> 01:16:51,360
Speaker 1: when we go to Iceland, we gave him the Teddy

1609
01:16:51,400 --> 01:16:53,320
Speaker 1: bear you know, which he used, which was he used

1610
01:16:53,320 --> 01:16:55,960
Speaker 1: pretty effectively, this big huge table bear I gave him.

1611
01:16:56,000 --> 01:16:57,479
Speaker 1: We all kind of give each other some things like

1612
01:16:57,520 --> 01:16:59,280
Speaker 1: I said, I'm giving Jake some for it's like the

1613
01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:01,280
Speaker 1: national disc of Iceland. I forget the name of it

1614
01:17:01,400 --> 01:17:04,720
Speaker 1: in Icelandic, but it's fermented shark and it's smells what

1615
01:17:04,800 --> 01:17:07,120
Speaker 1: it was. It was a dude, It was in a

1616
01:17:07,160 --> 01:17:08,920
Speaker 1: glass jar. I opened up and said, guys, time out.

1617
01:17:08,960 --> 01:17:11,200
Speaker 1: Open up and everyone's like, oh my god. Everybody goes

1618
01:17:11,240 --> 01:17:13,919
Speaker 1: away so gross. But I was like, this is clean protein,

1619
01:17:14,080 --> 01:17:16,760
Speaker 1: it's calories. Let's just see. And you know it right

1620
01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:19,160
Speaker 1: off the bat. When he started his survival stuff, He's like, man,

1621
01:17:19,160 --> 01:17:21,080
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna eat that. You didn't need it, and

1622
01:17:21,160 --> 01:17:23,439
Speaker 1: then didn't towards the towards the end, I believe he

1623
01:17:23,560 --> 01:17:25,560
Speaker 1: was like, man, I should have kept that. Yeah, you

1624
01:17:25,680 --> 01:17:28,960
Speaker 1: don't turn down food ever. Ever, we know that in

1625
01:17:29,000 --> 01:17:31,759
Speaker 1: the Army. To man, when you you never turned down child,

1626
01:17:31,800 --> 01:17:34,400
Speaker 1: because you a couple of days go by, you're like, man,

1627
01:17:34,479 --> 01:17:36,240
Speaker 1: that that actually was probably would have been a good

1628
01:17:36,280 --> 01:17:40,080
Speaker 1: thing to have. Well, you're talking about the Korean cuisine, man,

1629
01:17:40,160 --> 01:17:42,719
Speaker 1: that I'm I wish I could try it, just because

1630
01:17:42,760 --> 01:17:45,439
Speaker 1: people watching this from all around the world, if to realize,

1631
01:17:45,479 --> 01:17:47,400
Speaker 1: like we're in a part of New York that's a

1632
01:17:47,439 --> 01:17:50,679
Speaker 1: few blocks from Kay Town, which is all Korean food

1633
01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:53,240
Speaker 1: right by Penn Station. I grew up on Long Island

1634
01:17:53,320 --> 01:17:57,720
Speaker 1: next to Flushing Queens, which if you want to eat

1635
01:17:58,240 --> 01:17:59,800
Speaker 1: Korean food, it's like my favorite. If you want to

1636
01:17:59,800 --> 01:18:02,240
Speaker 1: eat good Filipino food, I believe it's on First Half

1637
01:18:02,360 --> 01:18:06,200
Speaker 1: and there's a restaurant called Jitney's Filipino Place. Yeah, my

1638
01:18:06,360 --> 01:18:08,160
Speaker 1: my friend took me there once and he uh he

1639
01:18:08,280 --> 01:18:11,000
Speaker 1: made me eat the ballut. I will I would watch that.

1640
01:18:11,080 --> 01:18:12,400
Speaker 1: I will not know you don't want to eat that.

1641
01:18:12,439 --> 01:18:14,760
Speaker 1: I will not eat that. It was I'll tell you this,

1642
01:18:15,200 --> 01:18:17,400
Speaker 1: it was the first two thirds of it were very good,

1643
01:18:17,960 --> 01:18:20,479
Speaker 1: actually delicious, but then I got to the crunchy stuff

1644
01:18:20,520 --> 01:18:24,480
Speaker 1: at the bottom. I'm not eating that exactly. It's fertilized

1645
01:18:24,680 --> 01:18:30,240
Speaker 1: chicken egg and they're they're fermented. I'm not eating it now.

1646
01:18:30,479 --> 01:18:31,800
Speaker 1: But now, if you gave that to me and do

1647
01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:34,880
Speaker 1: your screw, I might not eat it the first day.

1648
01:18:35,000 --> 01:18:36,439
Speaker 1: I might not eat it the second day, but I

1649
01:18:36,560 --> 01:18:39,080
Speaker 1: probably chugged that ship down the third day, like yeah,

1650
01:18:39,080 --> 01:18:41,080
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like that's but like just

1651
01:18:41,200 --> 01:18:42,519
Speaker 1: to do it. I mean, I guess if you're there,

1652
01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:45,880
Speaker 1: that's nothing too. Yeah. Yeah, and and and you know

1653
01:18:45,920 --> 01:18:48,160
Speaker 1: we also have to a special Forces guys. We have

1654
01:18:48,360 --> 01:18:51,280
Speaker 1: to eat. You got to eat what what? What's there?

1655
01:18:51,600 --> 01:18:53,599
Speaker 1: Really in a way because you kind of can insult people,

1656
01:18:53,680 --> 01:18:56,000
Speaker 1: so like, you know, when the right when they put

1657
01:18:56,040 --> 01:18:59,320
Speaker 1: food out, you can't go I'm just I'm a vegan,

1658
01:18:59,479 --> 01:19:01,200
Speaker 1: or like he can't say like I don't eat that

1659
01:19:01,320 --> 01:19:03,840
Speaker 1: because that's kind of that's pretty insulting to them. So

1660
01:19:03,920 --> 01:19:05,640
Speaker 1: you just gotta eat it. I'm so glad I never

1661
01:19:05,680 --> 01:19:09,960
Speaker 1: had to eat ballut the only time I nevergot Actually,

1662
01:19:10,320 --> 01:19:13,160
Speaker 1: they actually sell that ship in restaurants here. Yeah, oh god, yeah,

1663
01:19:13,200 --> 01:19:15,640
Speaker 1: I'm telling you go there. The only time I got

1664
01:19:15,720 --> 01:19:17,960
Speaker 1: really sick, I think eating the food was in Africa,

1665
01:19:18,400 --> 01:19:20,160
Speaker 1: and I think it's because the plate of food they

1666
01:19:20,240 --> 01:19:22,880
Speaker 1: gave us was old. Yeah. I think I've been sitting

1667
01:19:22,880 --> 01:19:24,760
Speaker 1: out a couple of days and they're like, this is

1668
01:19:25,040 --> 01:19:28,519
Speaker 1: we have and you got sick? Yeah, me and another

1669
01:19:28,560 --> 01:19:30,200
Speaker 1: guy who ate it, we both got pretty sick for

1670
01:19:30,280 --> 01:19:31,920
Speaker 1: a couple of days. You're gonna get sick if you

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Speaker 1: do what we do. We had the first squirts going out.

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Speaker 1: It's awful too. It's awful. So I guess that about

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Speaker 1: wraps it up. We're off to celebrate the release of

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01:19:40,439 --> 01:19:43,280
Speaker 1: this book right here, Brandon Webb's the Killing School. For

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01:19:43,320 --> 01:19:46,519
Speaker 1: the people watching on Facebook Live, it's out now. Check

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01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:48,760
Speaker 1: it out. It's got stories from not just Brandon, but

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01:19:48,920 --> 01:19:53,400
Speaker 1: snipers like Jason Delgado, Marine Scott Sniper and Yeah, if

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01:19:53,400 --> 01:19:55,080
Speaker 1: you want to learn about snipers, this is it. This

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01:19:55,160 --> 01:19:58,120
Speaker 1: is the book. Check it out. Um, I guess before

1680
01:19:58,160 --> 01:19:59,680
Speaker 1: we get out of here, the last things that we

1681
01:19:59,720 --> 01:20:02,920
Speaker 1: can plug, of course, is Hollywood Weapons. Check it out

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01:20:03,000 --> 01:20:05,599
Speaker 1: Monday night at nine pm East on the Outdoor Channel.

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01:20:06,640 --> 01:20:08,479
Speaker 1: We're looking forward. It's a lot of fun, man. I

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01:20:08,600 --> 01:20:10,519
Speaker 1: promise you'll get to laugh at me, and you know

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01:20:10,640 --> 01:20:12,840
Speaker 1: you'll go, oh, I remember that movie. If you do, yeah,

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01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:15,320
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see it. Looks funny. It's funny

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01:20:15,320 --> 01:20:17,639
Speaker 1: as hell. It's funny as hell. So for the people

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01:20:17,760 --> 01:20:20,680
Speaker 1: listening to this podcast not viewing it, we thank you

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01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:24,120
Speaker 1: for becoming a member. Uh, we really appreciate it that

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01:20:24,240 --> 01:20:25,840
Speaker 1: we get to do these two shows a week now.

1691
01:20:25,920 --> 01:20:28,000
Speaker 1: And for those watching it on Facebook Live, We're not

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01:20:28,080 --> 01:20:29,760
Speaker 1: always going to do this. This is kind of a

1693
01:20:30,160 --> 01:20:32,760
Speaker 1: free preview for you guys, and you can join us

1694
01:20:32,800 --> 01:20:36,640
Speaker 1: though at soft Rereperatio dot us uh follow us on

1695
01:20:36,800 --> 01:20:39,320
Speaker 1: Twitter at soft Reperatio. And I'm actually gonna throw this

1696
01:20:39,439 --> 01:20:42,680
Speaker 1: out there. I was at the book release last night

1697
01:20:42,720 --> 01:20:45,760
Speaker 1: in Tribeca and Drew was wearing some of his gear

1698
01:20:46,320 --> 01:20:48,960
Speaker 1: and people are like, oh, you sell software shirts, and

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Speaker 1: I feel like we never mentioned it. To be honest,

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01:20:50,680 --> 01:20:53,840
Speaker 1: we always mentioned the Create Club. We mentioned uh so, yeah,

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01:20:53,920 --> 01:20:59,799
Speaker 1: there is a store tab and they're all quality shirts.

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01:20:59,840 --> 01:21:02,240
Speaker 1: I honestly don't just say that I wear them all

1703
01:21:02,320 --> 01:21:04,960
Speaker 1: the time, as do you, as does Drew Dwire. I

1704
01:21:05,040 --> 01:21:07,519
Speaker 1: wore your Softrep shirt on the Greg Gutfeld Show or

1705
01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:09,200
Speaker 1: like Red Eye one time in a bunch of like

1706
01:21:09,360 --> 01:21:12,639
Speaker 1: soft Rep well hopefully the future. They're not like what'stop.

1707
01:21:12,800 --> 01:21:16,280
Speaker 1: They're like, oh, they're saying I say that those guys

1708
01:21:16,360 --> 01:21:18,679
Speaker 1: paying you. I'm like, no, they don't like army guys.

1709
01:21:18,800 --> 01:21:21,559
Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. There's seals. Oh eaight, Jack works for them.

1710
01:21:22,560 --> 01:21:24,360
Speaker 1: It's a cool shirt. It's a software is on time,

1711
01:21:24,400 --> 01:21:26,360
Speaker 1: on target is badass. Yeah. I gave out a lot

1712
01:21:26,439 --> 01:21:28,800
Speaker 1: of them in the Philippines. I'm not gonna lie, man.

1713
01:21:28,920 --> 01:21:32,479
Speaker 1: I know that the show is growing because of you've

1714
01:21:32,520 --> 01:21:34,640
Speaker 1: had this happening. I walked out of the studio the

1715
01:21:34,720 --> 01:21:37,599
Speaker 1: other day. I'm talking to my dad on the phone sometimes,

1716
01:21:37,760 --> 01:21:40,240
Speaker 1: like Ian Scotto, I listen to the show all the time.

1717
01:21:40,280 --> 01:21:42,360
Speaker 1: It's awesome. So yeah, it's it's cool. It's good to

1718
01:21:42,479 --> 01:21:44,720
Speaker 1: know that more people are listening. And it's a it's

1719
01:21:44,760 --> 01:21:47,760
Speaker 1: a great cross section of people like me who are civilians,

1720
01:21:47,960 --> 01:21:50,000
Speaker 1: guys like you who are former military, and a lot

1721
01:21:50,080 --> 01:21:52,559
Speaker 1: of the times younger kids who are like I want

1722
01:21:52,600 --> 01:21:53,960
Speaker 1: to be a Green Beret, I want to be in

1723
01:21:54,040 --> 01:21:56,960
Speaker 1: Navy Seal. What do I have to do to get

1724
01:21:57,000 --> 01:21:59,200
Speaker 1: in there? And give answered a lot of it. It's

1725
01:21:59,200 --> 01:22:01,960
Speaker 1: weird because in my mind when I think about Soft

1726
01:22:02,040 --> 01:22:05,400
Speaker 1: Rep Radio, I think, who knows about Soft Rep Radio? Me?

1727
01:22:06,160 --> 01:22:11,400
Speaker 1: Ian Terry, Like it's psychologically it doesn't really sink in

1728
01:22:11,439 --> 01:22:13,280
Speaker 1: that there's like thousands of people that listen to this.

1729
01:22:13,479 --> 01:22:16,400
Speaker 1: That's cool, And you're right, I never thought about it.

1730
01:22:16,600 --> 01:22:18,360
Speaker 1: It is a good recruiting tool because you get to

1731
01:22:18,439 --> 01:22:21,360
Speaker 1: listen to dudes who have done it, you know, and

1732
01:22:21,560 --> 01:22:23,160
Speaker 1: and and I think a lot of times I I

1733
01:22:23,479 --> 01:22:27,920
Speaker 1: you know, there, you guys are realistic about what we do,

1734
01:22:28,400 --> 01:22:30,640
Speaker 1: and and and it's not you know, painting it with

1735
01:22:31,160 --> 01:22:33,120
Speaker 1: always a happy face. It is what it is, you know,

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01:22:33,240 --> 01:22:34,760
Speaker 1: So that's kind of I think. I think I think

1737
01:22:34,840 --> 01:22:36,880
Speaker 1: kids are you know, young guys, young studs out there

1738
01:22:36,920 --> 01:22:40,080
Speaker 1: looking for something to do. Like all right, okay, you know,

1739
01:22:40,200 --> 01:22:42,040
Speaker 1: I got I get it. There's gonna be some bad

1740
01:22:42,080 --> 01:22:45,320
Speaker 1: ship coming, but it's worth it. Well, Terry, thanks for

1741
01:22:45,400 --> 01:22:48,360
Speaker 1: coming in making appearance. It's good to see you again

1742
01:22:48,960 --> 01:22:51,160
Speaker 1: because it's been a little bit. I'm happy to be home.

1743
01:22:51,320 --> 01:22:54,040
Speaker 1: Welcome back to America. Jack Murphy, I'm gonna be seeing

1744
01:22:54,080 --> 01:22:55,519
Speaker 1: a lot more of you now now that we're doing

1745
01:22:55,560 --> 01:22:58,000
Speaker 1: two shows a week. Um. Yeah, anything else before we

1746
01:22:58,040 --> 01:22:59,640
Speaker 1: get out of here, anything else you're plugging. I know

1747
01:22:59,760 --> 01:23:02,720
Speaker 1: you have, you know, your Deckard novels, and I think

1748
01:23:02,760 --> 01:23:05,479
Speaker 1: we pretty much covered all of it for this week. Yeah.

1749
01:23:05,920 --> 01:23:07,599
Speaker 1: I would say go to go to go to Task

1750
01:23:07,640 --> 01:23:10,400
Speaker 1: Force Dagger dot org. It's a really good charity they're

1751
01:23:10,439 --> 01:23:12,880
Speaker 1: based on There're so calm works with them. They do

1752
01:23:13,000 --> 01:23:15,400
Speaker 1: a lot of cool stuff and I was just with

1753
01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:19,680
Speaker 1: those cats a week ago and mind blowing. So if

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01:23:19,720 --> 01:23:22,120
Speaker 1: you're also looking to help, you know, people say that

1755
01:23:22,280 --> 01:23:25,439
Speaker 1: you support the military, supports the verbs, so that means

1756
01:23:25,479 --> 01:23:28,720
Speaker 1: that's a that implies it actually demands action right a

1757
01:23:28,840 --> 01:23:31,599
Speaker 1: verb as an action thing. So if you support the military,

1758
01:23:31,720 --> 01:23:34,519
Speaker 1: that's cool. Give give something of your time, donate to

1759
01:23:34,600 --> 01:23:37,400
Speaker 1: some charities, go go go, kind of get yourself plugged

1760
01:23:37,400 --> 01:23:39,320
Speaker 1: into it because it's easy to say, all I support it, Yeah,

1761
01:23:39,320 --> 01:23:40,880
Speaker 1: you just do something about it. It doesn't it's not

1762
01:23:40,920 --> 01:23:42,760
Speaker 1: a lot, it doesn't take a lot, and it makes

1763
01:23:42,800 --> 01:23:44,439
Speaker 1: a big difference because a lot of guys hurting you

1764
01:23:45,520 --> 01:23:52,880
Speaker 1: off side. You've been listening to Self Repladia. New episodes

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01:23:53,000 --> 01:23:56,040
Speaker 1: up every Wednesday and Friday for all of the great

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01:23:56,120 --> 01:23:59,920
Speaker 1: content from our veteran journalists. Join us and become a team.

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Speaker 1: Remember today at soft rep dot com, follow the show

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Speaker 1: on Instagram and Twitter at soft Rep Radio, and be

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Speaker 1: sure to also check out the Power of Thought podcast

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01:24:11,520 --> 01:24:16,160
Speaker 1: hosted by Hurricane Group CEO and Navy Seal Sniper instructor

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01:24:16,680 --> 01:24:38,680
Speaker 1: Brandon Webb, M