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Speaker 1: hosts Dane Brugler, Jeff Kavanaugh, Kevin Turner and Kyle Yeoman's

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Speaker 1: It's a Thursday edition of the Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: Draft Show. As we are seventy four days away from

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Speaker 1: the NFL Draft. It's hard to keep count at this

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Speaker 1: But we are going to break it down in early

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Speaker 1: Valentine's Day gift for all of you listeners out there

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Speaker 1: who decided to tune in, as we're gonna give our

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Speaker 1: Valentine's crushes of draft prospects at each position. And plus, hey,

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Speaker 1: Dave Brugler gave you a nice little mot draft Valentine

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Speaker 1: Day gift earlier today. We're gonna go through that as

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Speaker 1: you can find that on the Athletic. But I want

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Speaker 1: to start things off today by asking mister Jeff Kavanaugh

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Speaker 1: a question because I feel like you're probably the more

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Speaker 1: likely of the four of us to do this. But

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Speaker 1: if you were on a boat and you have the

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Speaker 1: Lombardi trophy in your hand, would you have the guts

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Speaker 1: to toss it to another boat in the middle of

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Speaker 1: a bay, let's say Tampa Bay, at some point throughout

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Speaker 1: that celebration. Would you have the guts to do something

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Speaker 1: like that? Oh? Yeah, I don't care about pretty much anything, Kyle. Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Plus I'm an experienced boatman. Ye are I'm a lake Yeah? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: could pull that off with no problems whatsoever. I could

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Speaker 1: throw the Lombardi to kat and I could throw it.

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Speaker 1: I'll say I could throw it from without even knowing

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Speaker 1: how much it weighs. I'll say I could make that

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Speaker 1: toss from eighteen yards. Okay, Katie, would you make the catch? Tank? Uh? Yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: I've got very good at hands. My problem is getting

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Speaker 1: call them both. That's all I need to be doing. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: which one of the three of these Draft Show guys

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Speaker 1: would be more willing to toss a Lombardi Trophy. My

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Speaker 1: first thought was Dane's face whenever it happened, whenever he

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Speaker 1: actually saw it. But then my second thought was, oh,

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Speaker 1: Jeff would probably ultimately make this toss. Now, Dane, what

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Speaker 1: did you think about the Super Bowl? Is? We didn't

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Speaker 1: three of y'all's thoughts on the Draft Show Tuesday? What

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Speaker 1: you think about the final of Tampa Bay taking down

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Speaker 1: Kansas City thirty one that night? A little surprised that

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs were not more ready for the Bucks defensive

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Speaker 1: game plan. I thought that, you know, Andy Reid knows

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Speaker 1: I just thought they'd be a little more ready and

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Speaker 1: But I mean credit to uh, you know, that defense,

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Speaker 1: a few scares, a few teams had to you know,

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Speaker 1: so it should make it interesting. I thought that game

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Speaker 1: seems like the Cowboys have said, hey, let's sign all

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Speaker 1: Athletic It's mock Draft three point Oh. Mister Dane Brugler. First,

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Speaker 1: The Cowboys stayed at ten, but there were two trades

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Speaker 1: lot of fun. So it's an interesting, you know wrinkle

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Speaker 1: that would you know, surely shake things up. Do you

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Speaker 1: think this is the safe pick, Jeff, whenever it comes

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Speaker 1: to the Cowboys instead of taking an offensive tackle in

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Speaker 1: a slater? Or is this the risky pick, taking a

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Speaker 1: guy who may not be the better prospect but it

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Speaker 1: fits your needs right now? I mean, I do think

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Speaker 1: it's a safe pick. I think Drick Curtan is a

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Speaker 1: safe pick to say he's going to play ten years

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Speaker 1: in the NFL and he's going to be a starter,

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Speaker 1: you know. I think this scenario that Dane has drawn

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Speaker 1: up brings a whole bunch of different names into play.

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Speaker 1: I think for the Cowboys, I wouldn't be surprised if

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Speaker 1: it brought the name Micah Parsons into play. For me,

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Speaker 1: I would I would rather hear the name Jeremiah Wosu Coromoa,

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Speaker 1: the Notre Dame linebacker. Gosh, does Christian Barmore come into play?

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Speaker 1: Excuse me? But like I mean to me, that's early,

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Speaker 1: but that it's kind of along the same vein as

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Speaker 1: what the Curtan pick would signify, which is, look, here's

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Speaker 1: what we're looking at in terms of need. Because in

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Speaker 1: terms of the best players available for me, it would

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Speaker 1: be Jaylen Waddle and Rashawn Slater and Jeremiah Wosu Coromoa

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Speaker 1: and and Patrick Curtan and those would kind of be

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Speaker 1: the names that would be in that group for me.

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Speaker 1: But I'm with Dane where I think what's going to

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Speaker 1: happen is you'll have you know quite a guys that

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Speaker 1: told you as yeah, these are solid first round picks.

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Speaker 1: We're sitting here at number ten. We have a desperate

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Speaker 1: need for cornerback. So if Caleb Farley or Patrick Sartan

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Speaker 1: is there, I think it makes sense. I don't think

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Speaker 1: he would be the top player according to me that's

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Speaker 1: available there, but it's a pick that makes tons of

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Speaker 1: sense for the Cowboys, And I think part of it

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Speaker 1: is I'm taking the best player there because I feel

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Speaker 1: pretty good about cornerback and offensive tackle depth in the

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Speaker 1: second round when you're picking at forty four. And that

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Speaker 1: doesn't real rule out taking a defensive tackle or a

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Speaker 1: defensive end or a linebacker or any of those things

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Speaker 1: in that spot, but I do feel really good about

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Speaker 1: offensive tackle and cornerback depth. Going back to Day two,

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Speaker 1: Waddle is the best player. What if it's Jalen Waddle, Okay,

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Speaker 1: best player available at a position of need. Right, I'm

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Speaker 1: just checking. But now you're right. I like that you're

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Speaker 1: throwing that out there, because I did. I at least

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Speaker 1: turned my head like I do every time I go

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Speaker 1: into a seven eleven and I see some wine. Is

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Speaker 1: that wine in a seven eleven? Yeah? I don't know

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Speaker 1: if I'm gonna buy it, but I might because there's

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Speaker 1: wine in a seven eleven. That's That's what Jalen Wattle

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Speaker 1: and Kyle Pitts do for me at that area. That's interesting.

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Speaker 1: And hey, maybe maybe Jaylen Waddle ends up being the

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Speaker 1: miller light in the seven eleven and then all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden you're really cooking because you have to select it.

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Speaker 1: That's the issue. And a water burger on the way home,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying? Whoa, oh, some of them

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Speaker 1: I'm at at and t phone. Maybe some of the

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Speaker 1: other other players that were that we've kind of talked

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Speaker 1: about and where they landed. In Dane's mock draft, the

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Speaker 1: Patriots take Michael Parsons at fifteen. That just seems like

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Speaker 1: a Patriots pig. Goodness gracious um. Christian Barnmore goes seventeen

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Speaker 1: to Las Vegas as the Raiders take him mister Jeremiah

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Speaker 1: Usu Koramora, linebacker out of Notre Dame, who we all

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Speaker 1: of the Detroit Lions who traded out of the top ten,

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Speaker 1: gave a quarterback to Washington ended up taking Jeremiah Usu

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Speaker 1: Koramora to pair in that defense at the linebacker spot.

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Speaker 1: And that's pretty impressive, I think from a standpoint of

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Speaker 1: a team trading back and still grabbing a guy. Jc

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Speaker 1: Horn another Cowboys rumored guy. Buffalo Bills take him at

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Speaker 1: twenty one. Any other picks though here before we take

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Speaker 1: our first break down, that's stuck out to you when

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Speaker 1: you made him. Well. I love the Steelers trading up

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Speaker 1: a few spots to get Christian Darrisaw. You know, they

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Speaker 1: need help attackle and derris Saw just seems like a

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Speaker 1: great fit for not only that scheme, but just the

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Speaker 1: type of player that the Steelers look for. So they

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Speaker 1: make a little bit of a move and get their guy,

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Speaker 1: you know, the forty nine Ers. They make that move,

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Speaker 1: they move back to twenty three from the twelve pick,

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Speaker 1: and they still get a solid player in quitty pay. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: maybe they can or a quitty pay at twelve, and

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Speaker 1: they fall down to twenty three still get him. I

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Speaker 1: think Mac Jones at twenty eight to the Saints is

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Speaker 1: just a perfect fit in terms of him being the

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Speaker 1: new Drew Brees. There really fits that offense well and

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Speaker 1: I think they could hit the ground running. And you

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Speaker 1: know the Colts, they get kind of shut out at

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Speaker 1: left tackle with Derris off the board and a few

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Speaker 1: other guys, So they move back and get Leah Meikenberg

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Speaker 1: at the end of the first round, which I think

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Speaker 1: would be a nice fit for them, and then last

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Speaker 1: pick of the first round Miami, which this is Miami's

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Speaker 1: third trade in this h this mock draft scenario. They

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Speaker 1: trade back into the first round for the their third

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Speaker 1: pick in this year in this first round situation, and

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Speaker 1: they get Travis etn So, Davonte Smith, Zavin Collins, and

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Speaker 1: then they moved from thirty six to thirty two to

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Speaker 1: get their explosive running back, so trying to get to

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Speaker 1: us some more help on that offense. I love it.

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Speaker 1: I think that's a fantastic and I wish the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: would do something like that and get multiple first round

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Speaker 1: picks as Miami already has too. They said, nah, we

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Speaker 1: want one more. Let's go ahead and snag this guy

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Speaker 1: and try and make a run for the thing, because

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Speaker 1: we also don't know what Miami's gonna do with two

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Speaker 1: uh and if he's even going to be that quarterback

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Speaker 1: moving forward. So there's a lot of moving and shifting

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Speaker 1: to be done. And while we're talking about trades, we've

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Speaker 1: got Twitter on the twenty coming up on the other

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Speaker 1: of these guys what it would be like to trade

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Speaker 1: down and maybe go get one of those defensive players

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Speaker 1: like a Jeremiah Usu Corribora or a Christian Barmore. How

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Speaker 1: far would they have to fall? And are the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: Dame Burglar, Jeff Kavanaugh, Kevin Kate T. Turner, and now

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Speaker 1: we've got you guys answering fan questions on some Twitter

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Speaker 1: on the twenty on the Chris beam as always doing

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Speaker 1: fantastic work in the back and Jeff caving all. This

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Speaker 1: a segment for mister trade down. Yep, yep, it's happening.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh cool, yeah, captain trade down. No, this

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Speaker 1: is a good thing, this is this is solid. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So multiple questions on Twitter on the twenty. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: try and read off every name. If I miss your name,

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Speaker 1: I apologize. Just no, I'm thinking of you. Jason Pruitt

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Speaker 1: asked Sherman asked, um, there's like three other people that

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Speaker 1: ask this as well. Edward Canberra Junior. All want to

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Speaker 1: know what is the scenario like to trade down for

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys? What would it look like? How far would

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Speaker 1: you have to go to get one of these top

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Speaker 1: prospects that you were talking about. We mentioned a bevy

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Speaker 1: of names in the first segment. What would it take

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Speaker 1: for the Cowboys to trade back down and how far

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Speaker 1: would they fall? Well, I want to point out first

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Speaker 1: that like Dane's mock draft scenario, he screwed it up

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Speaker 1: if you wanted to trade down because he let all

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Speaker 1: four quarterbacks go before the Cowboys pick. So ideally, you

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Speaker 1: let one of the quarterbacks get to number ten, you

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Speaker 1: let somebody come up and get them, and you move

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Speaker 1: back and let's see the teams that would need said quarterback.

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Speaker 1: The Dane, now all these trades are in the way,

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Speaker 1: New England, Pittsburgh, Washington, right night, either at Chicago, you

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Speaker 1: know Indy, so you know you could go as low

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Speaker 1: as twenty one. But here's the danger, because I play

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Speaker 1: with the mock draft simulators way too often on my

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Speaker 1: little YouTube page, way too often, and uh, one time

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Speaker 1: I went down to like twenty or twenty one and

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Speaker 1: I lost everybody and it was the worst mock draft

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Speaker 1: I've ever done. So, um, that's a great question that

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Speaker 1: I'll try to remember and let you know. But because

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Speaker 1: because here's the names that i'd be interested in a

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Speaker 1: trade down. If if the k yes, it was awful,

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Speaker 1: If the Cowboys trade down, then great, you accumulate an

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Speaker 1: extra pick the names that I would be thinking about

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Speaker 1: when I do it, and I'll go off of Dane's

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Speaker 1: mock draft. Here is Sir Tan probably goes somewhere. Rashawn

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Speaker 1: Slater is a name you'd love to have available. Jeremiah

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Speaker 1: Wusu Coromoa, the Notre Dame linebacker. I would love to

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Speaker 1: have available, Christian Barmore, JC Horn. If all of those

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Speaker 1: names are gone after I trade it down, then I

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Speaker 1: quit and I ask if we can redo it. I'd

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Speaker 1: be like Hey, Hey, I didn't mean it. Can we

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Speaker 1: switch back? Because that is about the end of the

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Speaker 1: defensive players that I'm trying to pick there in the

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Speaker 1: top twenty. So if I don't end up with one

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Speaker 1: of those guys that I would say my trade Doown

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Speaker 1: failed and I'm not having a good time anymore. So

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Speaker 1: those are the targets. So you gotta be careful how

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Speaker 1: far you go according to this captain trade Doown, I

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Speaker 1: would agree. I don't really have too much to elaborate on.

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Speaker 1: I think what you get to the Eric Stokes of

640
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Speaker 1: the world that you know, if you want to say

641
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 1: Leah Eikenberg or whatever you want to say, no offensive tackle,

642
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 1: if that's where you're looking, the one name that I

643
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 1: that I go. And I'm just kind of using Dane's

644
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 1: my draft as a as a jumper and he's not

645
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 1: even my safety one. But if the Cowboys liked Moreig

646
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 1: the safety from TCU is it twenty five, maybe that's

647
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 1: a little it's a little far from me and really

648
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 1: not the guy that I want at safety anyways. But

649
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 1: I'm just throwing out names in scenarios because that's what

650
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 1: we do in the draft. Who do you want it? Safety?

651
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 1: Richie Grant, baby, Okay, I just wanted to make sure

652
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 1: I like Richie Grant a lot. Where did yeh? Did

653
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 1: Richie Grant go on the top the front first round? Here, Dane,

654
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 1: I don't see him here? No, no, Morg's snuck in there. Uh.

655
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 1: Richie Grant did not. He was not in his first

656
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 1: round balk Okay, where would you have him? Probably agree

657
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 1: with Katie there, Yeah, I mean I get somewhere in

658
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 1: the top, you know, forty five picks, But I would

659
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 1: agree with kt I mean, I think it's it's a

660
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,479
Speaker 1: it's a close call. Who's safety one in this class.

661
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 1: I think that there's a case to be made for

662
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 1: Grant over Moorick. So it's it's a it's a really

663
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 1: interesting group of safeties. I hope Richie, a guy in

664
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 1: the early thirties go, let's say, great, well, Grant might

665
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 1: have to have to have to be a guy where

666
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 1: you're at forty four and you're like, gotta love this guy.

667
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 1: I gotta jump up to thirty five or thirty six

668
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 1: and get it. Like maybe that's the thought process there. Yeah,

669
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 1: I Dane said, top forty five picks. If he goes

670
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 1: in the top forty four and he slides in there

671
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 1: at forty four, I would do cartwheels. That might be

672
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 1: that would maybe be my player that I would run

673
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 1: to the star and back four again this year. I'm

674
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:44,799
Speaker 1: not saying I'm making that bet again because I don't

675
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 1: really want to, but uh, Richie Grant would maybe be

676
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 1: that guy if he was there at forty four and

677
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 1: the Cowboys picked him. But hey, I might might try

678
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:57,320
Speaker 1: and think that through. But uh, sticking the bet, well,

679
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,439
Speaker 1: we'll see. Let me let me get through everybody first

680
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 1: before I make the bed. One other thing with I

681
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 1: didn't hear you guys taught or mention any edge rushers

682
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:09,879
Speaker 1: in a trade down scenario, And I think that's where

683
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 1: maybe edge rusher becomes more of a possibility, you know,

684
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 1: with a quidty pay or he's Audilarry my top pass

685
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,840
Speaker 1: rusher in this draft. You know, I think one of

686
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 1: these pass rushers could be more of a realistic option

687
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 1: if they'd end up trading back seven eight spots and

688
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 1: maybe get shut out in another position. I can do Audillarry,

689
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 1: and that's about the only one because I would just

690
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:37,479
Speaker 1: I would look back at what you gave up at ten,

691
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 1: and this edge class is just so weird to me

692
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 1: where I'm with you in terms of who the top

693
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 1: guy is and my second guy is Quitty pay, but

694
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,879
Speaker 1: I don't feel great about that. And then it's just

695
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of dudes lumped together. Where if that's

696
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:57,360
Speaker 1: what I traded away from picking at number ten overall

697
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 1: four and I'd end up picking j In Phillips or

698
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 1: Carlos Basham, I'd be like, what happened when we could

699
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 1: have picked Patrick's or tam guys? What happened when it

700
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 1: could have picked for Sean Slader? Guys? Depends what you

701
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 1: get too. If you get an extra two and say

702
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,919
Speaker 1: it's a you know in early two and it ends

703
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 1: up being another quality starter for you, then it it's

704
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:23,240
Speaker 1: an interesting discussion if you're talking about a pass rusher,

705
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 1: a corner and a safety in your first two rounds

706
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 1: or just a corner and a safety, you know, it

707
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 1: just it makes it a really interesting scenario, you know,

708
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 1: with the quantity over quality argument three versus two players,

709
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,360
Speaker 1: what would it take to get Let's say, if the

710
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 1: if the Cowboys were at ten Dane and they went

711
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 1: from ten but they stayed in the top twenty, what

712
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 1: would that kind of compensation, look like, what do you think,

713
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:54,879
Speaker 1: probably a two And it depends what people are trained

714
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 1: up for. If it's for a quarterback, then that compensation

715
00:36:58,000 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 1: is probably gonna be a little bit more because the

716
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 1: radically there will be more than one team trying to

717
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 1: get up there, and so maybe you can drive the

718
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 1: price up a little bit. But you know, likely if

719
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 1: you're moving up, say say, well, I can't say Washington

720
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 1: because I don't think the Cowboys are going to trade

721
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 1: with Washington, but uh, you know, say it's a it's

722
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 1: another team. Say say Pittsburgh trades up to eighteen and

723
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 1: then they look to try to get up to ten.

724
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:24,319
Speaker 1: When they you know, try to get a quarterback or

725
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:27,800
Speaker 1: something like that, you know, then you know you're probably

726
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 1: talking about a two and a four or something like that,

727
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 1: where you know you're not not gonna have to trade

728
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 1: the farm. But with when a quarterback's involved, the compensation

729
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 1: is always a little bit more. I like it. I

730
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 1: like having that and having one of those guys I'm

731
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 1: there with you, captain trade down. I think if they

732
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 1: if there's a quarterback there and it seem wants to

733
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 1: come up and get them, let's do it. Let's just

734
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:49,439
Speaker 1: not drop too far. I don't want to drop into

735
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 1: the twenties. I want to stay in the top twenty

736
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 1: pick right around where we did last year. Of course,

737
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 1: we had a CD lamb last year. Let's try and

738
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 1: figure something out on the defensive side this time and

739
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 1: have to second round pick, two third round picks, two

740
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,359
Speaker 1: fourth round picks, so on and so forth, because that's

741
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:10,919
Speaker 1: exactly what it would. Yeah, we got a man down. Yeah,

742
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, oh he's back. Sorry. I got so excited

743
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 1: about the idea of getting down into the team somewhere

744
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 1: and drafting Jeremiah Wusu Cormoa and then removing a certain

745
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 1: player from the roster and saving seven point two million

746
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,760
Speaker 1: dollars and then using that money to go sign somebody

747
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,319
Speaker 1: else that could help your team. And man, you could

748
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 1: just you could upgrade a linebacker and that would be

749
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 1: a lot of fun. Wait, you you would be You

750
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 1: would be getting rid of a player and replacing him

751
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 1: with that same school in the same position. Is that

752
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 1: what if you're talking about? Is that what we're at

753
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 1: referencing here? I mean, oh no, all I'm saying is

754
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 1: that I would go with with like a guy that's

755
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 1: two legged bipedal and uh wow, and that celebrates celebrates

756
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 1: usually when good things happen, not just all the time.

757
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 1: Oh goodness, all right, let's go ahead and go to

758
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:02,919
Speaker 1: Let's go back to and this will be my last

759
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:07,879
Speaker 1: draft show. Thank you everybody. It's been a whole fun

760
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 1: ride with Captain trade down. Uh, can you get the

761
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 1: crew This is a question from Christian. Can you get

762
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,839
Speaker 1: the crew to give their thoughts on Sean Wade from

763
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 1: Ohio State. He was a disaster in the championship game.

764
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 1: But would he project better as a safety? We were

765
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:25,240
Speaker 1: just talking about Morigg and Richie Grant at the safety

766
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 1: spot with Sean Wade transition over better, Katie, I mean,

767
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 1: but just let's just go play inside. Let's do what

768
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 1: we know you're good at like that, and that's that

769
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 1: would probably be my goal, is like he would just

770
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 1: be my my slot corner most of the time. And

771
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 1: I know he's a little a little long for that

772
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 1: six one of course, linked is fine there, right, Um,

773
00:39:58,040 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 1: you know what I saw in twenty nineteen. You saw

774
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 1: a good tackler and good in coverage and things like that.

775
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 1: And when they moved outside for some reason, he struggled

776
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 1: and just couldn't keep up with the fry Fogels of

777
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 1: the world. You know, uh, the Indiana wide receiver things

778
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:17,880
Speaker 1: I got to use in Daily Fantasy, that Trifogel guy. Yeah, dude,

779
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 1: Like I just I think also, I do think you

780
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:26,399
Speaker 1: have a situation though when you talk about him. If

781
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 1: you're going to be playing a lot of cover three,

782
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 1: maybe you give him another shot, but you're not taking

783
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 1: him in the top one hundred picks. Now, I don't

784
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 1: think I think you're banking on I think you're I

785
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 1: think you're banking on a miracle if you do that.

786
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:42,799
Speaker 1: But let's say you get to day three, Sean Wade's there,

787
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 1: you want to play a lot of cover three in

788
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 1: the first place, you know, where he can kind of

789
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 1: keep the ball in front of him. I think I

790
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,799
Speaker 1: don't think I'm like fully on board. It's just like

791
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 1: abandoning the position based on fit. But that is a

792
00:40:56,520 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 1: that became a very extremely difficult evaluation after really loving

793
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 1: his twenty nineteen team, Dana just don't know what you

794
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 1: do with him. I mean, he he he can't can't

795
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 1: play outside corner. I mean he showed that, um uh

796
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 1: he And what gave me a lot of pause was

797
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 1: just how the lack of urgency that he played with. Um,

798
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 1: it's not just a technique thing. It's not just him

799
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,720
Speaker 1: not being fast enough. It's just a lack of urgency

800
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 1: that he that he showed that that right there is

801
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,319
Speaker 1: a huge red flag to me that I'm not even

802
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 1: gonna I'm not even I would have even mess with it.

803
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 1: I would I wouldn't draft him. Um, he would not

804
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 1: be on my board. But that's just me. I mean,

805
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:39,840
Speaker 1: some team's gonna try and you know, uh, you know

806
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,760
Speaker 1: my guests would be early Day three draft and develop

807
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 1: and see if you have something. But you know, he's it.

808
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:50,760
Speaker 1: Just it was not the twenty twenty season that uh

809
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 1: he needed to uh for the NFL draft. Jeff, I, yeah,

810
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 1: Dan Dane beat me to the punch because I didn't

811
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 1: think Dane would have the stones to say I wouldn't

812
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:06,359
Speaker 1: put him on the board. But that's like my thought

813
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 1: on a guy like Sean Wade is I'm gonna let

814
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 1: somebody else pick him. And that's like that's not my

815
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 1: not me predicting he's gonna go undrafted. He'll probably get

816
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 1: picked him the third or fourth, maybe even the fifth.

817
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:17,840
Speaker 1: But I think that's just one of those guys that

818
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 1: if somebody were dumb enough to let me be a

819
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 1: decision maker for an NFL team, I'd be like, guys,

820
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 1: we're not messing with that one. Somebody else is gonna

821
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 1: pick that guy, Like, what's your plan. He's a strong

822
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 1: safety that we haven't seen play strong safety. That's our plan.

823
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 1: I just I don't know what your plan is with

824
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:35,280
Speaker 1: Sean Wade. It was what happened for him in twenty

825
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 1: twenty was bad news bears because I wouldn't know what

826
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 1: to do with him, and if you don't know what

827
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 1: to do with them, don't put him on the board.

828
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 1: That's interesting because he I mean, he was mocked after

829
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 1: what was his twenty nineteen tape game was it first

830
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 1: round bocked draft or second early second type of area

831
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 1: and then now where is he gonna fall? Yeah, I

832
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 1: mean I think his tape last year with more day

833
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 1: two tape. But I thought coming into the year, like

834
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:04,880
Speaker 1: my first you know, draft board, I projected him. I

835
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 1: think it was like in that twenty overall because I thought, okay,

836
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 1: based off of what he did last year and based

837
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 1: off improvements, I'm projecting him because I thought he'd be

838
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 1: a natural at outside corner because he has good size,

839
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 1: he's really good tather, he gets physical and you know,

840
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 1: based off his twenty nineteen film, I thought it would

841
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:24,399
Speaker 1: be you know, his tools would actually translate better outside

842
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 1: and just absolutely wrong on that. And so um, you know,

843
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:32,720
Speaker 1: before the season, based off of projecting him forward, you thought, okay,

844
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 1: this guy could maybe get into the first round, and

845
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 1: just the twenty twenty season, now he was hurt a

846
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:40,800
Speaker 1: little bit. That's part of it, you know, playing a

847
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 1: new position. But again, the lack of urgency, you know

848
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 1: that right there is a turn off for me, you

849
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 1: know it more so than just him struggling at the position.

850
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 1: So now it's just it's going to be interesting. And

851
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:54,839
Speaker 1: you know he should have went to the Senior Bowl,

852
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 1: but he didn't. You know, part of that again, he

853
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 1: had some injury stuff to clean up. There's no combine

854
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 1: and so a lot's gonna be on his pro day.

855
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 1: He needs to go out there and test extremely well

856
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:10,479
Speaker 1: to get back in the good graces of teams and say,

857
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 1: you know, just to get them more optimistic about Okay, well,

858
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 1: you know he's he's a good sized player. He runs

859
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 1: into low four fars. You know, the short area agility stuff.

860
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 1: We'll take a chance on Natsy if we can develop him.

861
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:26,240
Speaker 1: So a lot of pressure on his pro day to perform.

862
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:29,240
Speaker 1: So kind of sticking with the defensive side of the football,

863
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 1: Stingray on Twitter says, does the change at defensive coordinator

864
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 1: make the urgency for drafting defense a bit lower than

865
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 1: it was previously? And he says, in other words, can

866
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:43,840
Speaker 1: they get better performance from existing players? Jeff, what do

867
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:47,799
Speaker 1: you think about that? One? H No, because I don't

868
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 1: think you're like a lot of your existing players aren't

869
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 1: existing players. You have a whole bunch of free agents

870
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 1: and those players weren't good enough. You know, you go

871
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 1: across this defense, and I'm very comfortable saying that Tank

872
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 1: Lauren it is a good football player, Like Tank Lawrence

873
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 1: is a very good starter on your defense. That's the

874
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 1: end of my list of guys that I know are

875
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 1: very good starters on my defense. It's at one. So

876
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 1: like you saw some Donovan Wilson flash. That's gonna get

877
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 1: people excited. Randy Gregory can play, but at linebacker, you're like,

878
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 1: I don't know, at defensive tackle, it's I don't know.

879
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 1: A corner you have Anthony Brown and Treyvon Diggs. That's

880
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:29,280
Speaker 1: what you got, and you don't have a free safety

881
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:34,879
Speaker 1: under contract. Really, so no, this team was Look, Mike

882
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 1: Nolan was a train wreck for this organization last year.

883
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 1: The defensive coaching was a train wreck. It was embarrassing.

884
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 1: They should have never been hired. But at the same time,

885
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 1: your talent on defense was also bad. And that's a

886
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,919
Speaker 1: product of some misses, some signings that didn't work out.

887
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:52,840
Speaker 1: It was everything. Your urgency to change your personnel and

888
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 1: defense doesn't change at all. You have to add Golllee,

889
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:02,399
Speaker 1: three to six newts on defense. Yeah, it's a lot.

890
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 1: It's a lot. You have a lot to do, and

891
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 1: that urgency does not change. Katy, I have nothing more

892
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Speaker 1: to say. I mean, Jeff, Jeff neld It, it'd be

893
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Speaker 1: de scool, Jordan Lewis or Cheeto or Xavier Woods had

894
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Speaker 1: a like strong eight game run you know that made

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Speaker 1: you go wow. Well, now now that those guys were

896
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Speaker 1: in contract years and didn't do enough to solidify a

897
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 1: spot next year, uh, and didn't help their market any

898
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 1: And that's that's frustrating. It's interesting, Dane, any thoughts or

899
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 1: to add on that. Well, I think the only thing

900
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 1: I would add is we don't know how coach Quinn

901
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 1: and you know, the new additions to that coaching staff,

902
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,840
Speaker 1: they already have preconceived notions about some of these players,

903
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,760
Speaker 1: UM and so coming in and you know, during draft

904
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 1: meetings and as they're deciding what the roster's gonna look

905
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 1: like moving forward. Uh, you know, there's a fresh perspective

906
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 1: from these defensive coaches and we just don't know how

907
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 1: they're going to feel about some of these play I

908
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be interesting to see because there's we

909
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 1: talked about it. Literally, the name of the Tuesday Draft

910
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Speaker 1: Show was one hundred different Ways. There's one hundred different

911
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:12,600
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00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:16,160
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955
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956
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:04,800
Speaker 1: with those guys about maybe who their Valentines are. But Katie,

957
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 1: we've got a bit of a segment here about ten

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Speaker 1: gonna go and then get us underway. Well, I thought,

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00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:16,279
Speaker 1: with Valentine's Day coming up, we all have something that

961
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 1: we we've called over the years, quote pet cats, But

962
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Speaker 1: I think that's a little more shocking. I think now

963
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:25,399
Speaker 1: it's time to talk about our NFL Draft Valentines. Who

964
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 1: are the players that we're kind of in love with? Now?

965
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 1: This could be a fifth round guy, a guy who

966
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 1: might we've projected to go on Day three. It could

967
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 1: be the Trevor Lawrence. You know, it could do whatever.

968
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:37,920
Speaker 1: But I thought we could just kind off there's some

969
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:40,320
Speaker 1: guys who you like, you might like more than others,

970
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:43,319
Speaker 1: or a guy that maybe you just in love with

971
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 1: their tape. Let's just go around the horn and talk

972
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 1: about them. So I'd like to start with you, Jeff,

973
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:50,840
Speaker 1: and I know you like one of those TCU safeties,

974
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:52,880
Speaker 1: but I'll let you just to go. Who's one of

975
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:57,840
Speaker 1: your draft Valentines? Our Darius Washington, the best safety at TCU,

976
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:01,839
Speaker 1: the best safety in this draft class. Mel Kiper didn't

977
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 1: put him in his top ten safeties. Dane disrespects him

978
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 1: every time he puts out a list, or Darius Washington.

979
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:11,800
Speaker 1: If there were a combine, he would be the lightest

980
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 1: safety in the history of the combine. He might be

981
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:17,279
Speaker 1: the shortest safety in the history of the combine. But

982
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:19,440
Speaker 1: you know, I'm just I'm tired of all you size

983
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 1: shamers out there. Or Darius Washington safety one. When he

984
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 1: gets picked in the fifth round, don't tell me that

985
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 1: I was wrong about him. Just wait for his career

986
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 1: to play out. The great our Darius Washington, Well, it's

987
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 1: because he's not a safety, But I digress. I mean

988
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 1: unless you want him to play safety. I mean, if

989
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:37,840
Speaker 1: you want him to play the slot, he'll play the

990
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 1: slot and he'll be better than your slot corner. If

991
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 1: you wanted to play safety, he'll be better than Mary

992
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 1: get it, wherever you wanted to play. It's whatever I'm

993
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 1: going with. The true safety that's Richie Grant, who he

994
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 1: mentioned earlier. This guy the last three years led the

995
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:55,360
Speaker 1: team and tackles twice. He accounted for seventeen career turnover

996
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:59,840
Speaker 1: worthy plays, ten interceptions, seven forced fumbles. Place be production

997
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:03,880
Speaker 1: the tape. He can do receiver like things at the catchpoint.

998
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:06,280
Speaker 1: He'll run the alley, he'll go for the kill shot.

999
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 1: He only gave up three touchdowns the last two years,

1000
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 1: so you know, there's some consistency issues that he needs

1001
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:19,240
Speaker 1: to iron out. But NFL starting range, eyes, ballhawking skills,

1002
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 1: he could play single high, he could be a split safety.

1003
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 1: I mean, this guy's gonna be a starter as a rookie,

1004
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 1: and so you know, it's we're still kind of figuring

1005
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:31,360
Speaker 1: out how early he's going to go. But I'm crushing

1006
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 1: on him for sure. I like that. I like that

1007
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:38,760
Speaker 1: a lot. Yeah, I think, yeah, I think he's probably

1008
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 1: one of the draft show darlings. I think of the

1009
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 1: whole the whole realm. Really, I think all of us

1010
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:45,279
Speaker 1: kind of look at Richie Grant as one of those

1011
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 1: guys that could really be special. Now my draft crush

1012
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 1: has to do and it's kind of an obligatory, like,

1013
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:53,799
Speaker 1: let's not forget about this guy. It's one of those

1014
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 1: trade doown targets, and it's Christian Barmore from Alabama, the

1015
00:52:56,719 --> 00:53:00,160
Speaker 1: defensive lineman. He's gonna be you're starting three technique if

1016
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:02,800
Speaker 1: the Cowboys take him. I think he's better than Neville Gallimore.

1017
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 1: I think he's better than Tristian Hill. He's better than

1018
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:06,839
Speaker 1: any of those guys on the defensive line. And if

1019
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 1: you're talking about a guy who, yes he flashes on film,

1020
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 1: Yes his production was there when he was healthy at Alabama.

1021
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:17,240
Speaker 1: But another guy that I also really respect in terms

1022
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 1: of evaluating a specially defensive line talent, and that's Matt Rule,

1023
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 1: who's now with the Panthers. He was with Baylor for

1024
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 1: a little bit. You saw what he did with Baylor's

1025
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:28,840
Speaker 1: defensive line in just three years of talent evaluation and

1026
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:32,439
Speaker 1: building there. But he recruited Christian Barmore to Temple where

1027
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:35,759
Speaker 1: he originally committed before turning over and going to Alabama

1028
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:38,279
Speaker 1: and then showing out for Nick Sabans. So I like

1029
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:41,800
Speaker 1: Christian Barmore all of his tape. I like his background.

1030
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 1: I like the way that he could fit in as

1031
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:46,359
Speaker 1: a three technique for the Cowboys in twenty twenty one.

1032
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 1: So if the Cowboys trade down, let's say in the

1033
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 1: mid twenty or not even mid twenties, but right before

1034
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:54,719
Speaker 1: the twentieth pick, get right back into that fifteen to

1035
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 1: nineteen range, then all of a sudden, if Christian Martmore

1036
00:53:58,239 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 1: is there, I think he needs to be in the

1037
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:02,439
Speaker 1: discussion as a front seven defender that the Cowboys could take,

1038
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:07,400
Speaker 1: you know, with the lack of like top end dts, like,

1039
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 1: maybe a team gets a little urgent. Maybe maybe he's

1040
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:12,880
Speaker 1: a top twelve guy. Maybe he ends up higher than that,

1041
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:15,439
Speaker 1: just because I mean, it seems a little crazy, but

1042
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:19,719
Speaker 1: it could happen. Let's have a little fun here, Dan,

1043
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 1: I'd love to get your thoughts on this guy too.

1044
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:23,360
Speaker 1: And I don't know if Jeff you, I don't know. No,

1045
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:28,920
Speaker 1: Kat found an undrafted guy, small school. Let's go to

1046
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:34,759
Speaker 1: Let's go edge rusher Chris Rough the second from Duke,

1047
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 1: because look, he's light, he's two hundred and twenty five pounds,

1048
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 1: play defensive end, so maybe he's a three to four

1049
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 1: outside linebacker. But speed is the trade, baby, Speed all

1050
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:49,840
Speaker 1: day long, all over the field, making plays. He had

1051
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:53,239
Speaker 1: eight sacks last year. And again he's long, he's got

1052
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:56,320
Speaker 1: a lean build, but he is all over the field,

1053
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:59,759
Speaker 1: chasing down plays from the backside, just making plays all

1054
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:02,839
Speaker 1: over the place. Look, he's gonna have issues when an

1055
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:04,839
Speaker 1: offensive lineman is able to get his hands on him

1056
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:07,400
Speaker 1: because he's two hundred and twenty five pounds. But also

1057
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 1: his attitude is Look, there's a three hundred pound offensive

1058
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 1: lineman I'm gonna be faster than him and I'm gonna

1059
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 1: get around him. So still needs to work on some

1060
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 1: some nuanced things at the past rush Rose, But Chris

1061
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:22,320
Speaker 1: Rump the second from Duke is one of my favorite

1062
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 1: in terms of fun. It was just fun to watch

1063
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 1: his tape because that's speed off the edge. That might

1064
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 1: be the best speed off the edge in this class.

1065
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:32,879
Speaker 1: And maybe it's obvious because he's two hundred and twenty

1066
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:35,439
Speaker 1: five pounds, but get a good look at Chris Rump

1067
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 1: the second from Duke. Everyone I believe his father's a

1068
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 1: coach for the Texans, although everyone gets what the Texans

1069
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 1: is like wanting out of town now. But Chris Rump, Yeah, yeah,

1070
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:48,279
Speaker 1: his dad's been an assistant in the NFL for a

1071
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:52,120
Speaker 1: long time. So and he's Chris Rum's a captain at Duke,

1072
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:55,759
Speaker 1: you know, high pedigree type of guy. Yeah. I just

1073
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 1: I don't know what you do with him because he

1074
00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:00,120
Speaker 1: just he gets dominated versus a run, I mean the

1075
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:03,880
Speaker 1: point of attack. He's an Asian trouble But I agree

1076
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 1: with you. As a as a pass rusher, he the

1077
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:10,799
Speaker 1: motors outstanding good forward bend. He has ranged at the

1078
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:14,319
Speaker 1: position um because he is a little bit smaller. That

1079
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:17,360
Speaker 1: makes it tough for an He moves so fast offensive

1080
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 1: linemen to get their hands on him. So it's a

1081
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:22,360
Speaker 1: little bit of a pro and con there. So you know,

1082
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:24,239
Speaker 1: there are a lot of things like about him. I'm

1083
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:26,920
Speaker 1: just not sure. Is he a sub package guy? Can

1084
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 1: he play off the ball or you know? It just

1085
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:32,360
Speaker 1: there's a lot of questions. I think you have to

1086
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 1: be You have to find the answers for and be

1087
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:37,440
Speaker 1: confident about before you draft a player like the Katie

1088
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 1: would Jeff Well, I would just really quickly before we

1089
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:42,399
Speaker 1: go back to Jeff on this duke guy, Katie, when

1090
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:45,439
Speaker 1: you said edge rusher out of Duke, I actually thought

1091
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:47,960
Speaker 1: you were gonna go with Victor Demikaji. I think, is

1092
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 1: how you say his name? Do meca gee? Uh? He's

1093
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 1: six foot two play guy? Well, I looked it up

1094
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:57,360
Speaker 1: and I couldn't find it at the at the very moment.

1095
00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:00,040
Speaker 1: But I'll get to that point, I promise. But a

1096
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 1: Mikage out of duke, I think he's even better than

1097
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:06,319
Speaker 1: what Rumf has to bring to the table in terms

1098
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 1: of a Duke edge rusher. He's bigger, he's stronger, he's

1099
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 1: a four three base end, he's I mean, you know

1100
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 1: what he is, you know what you're getting out of him, Dana.

1101
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 1: I just wanted to kind of get your comparison on

1102
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 1: the two before we go back to Jeff real quick. Yeah,

1103
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:26,000
Speaker 1: obviously different styles of player. D mc cage is strong

1104
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 1: at the point of attack. He's not gonna give you

1105
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:33,120
Speaker 1: a great pass rush. He's inconsistent, as you know, set up,

1106
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 1: spends too much time attached to blocks. But he can

1107
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 1: get a field quickly, and he's got strong hands and

1108
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 1: he's gonna bring it on every down. So yeah, he

1109
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 1: is a draftable player, probably somewhere on day three. De mukage.

1110
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 1: That's what I found just now. De muge. I'm trying, Jeff.

1111
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 1: All right, Jeff, what's your crush? All right, I'm gonna

1112
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 1: try to pronounce this name right, Payton Turner. That's Houston.

1113
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 1: Defensive line, Peyton Turner. Take him with your second round

1114
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 1: pick and prosper. He's six five, two seventies, got the

1115
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 1: longest arms on planet Earth, and offensive lineman just can't

1116
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:10,960
Speaker 1: reach him. So whether you play him inside or outside,

1117
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:14,720
Speaker 1: he has an absolute problem for offensive lineman. Peyton Turner

1118
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:18,959
Speaker 1: defensive line, Houston, take him in the second We're good. Yeah,

1119
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:21,080
Speaker 1: I like that's he's really along. He's also one of

1120
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:24,240
Speaker 1: the best effort rushers that I've scouted in this class,

1121
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 1: and so that competitive energy that he brings is awesome

1122
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 1: inside outside versatility. I'm gonna go with another guy that

1123
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 1: we mentioned earlier as he's Audillary. I think, you know,

1124
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 1: he's not being talked about enough as a legitimate top

1125
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:41,440
Speaker 1: fifteen guy, and he should be. You know, he you know,

1126
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 1: he got frustrating watching him on film when they would

1127
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 1: drop him or at you know, not play him as

1128
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 1: a pass rusher. And he's still let the sec in

1129
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 1: sack so explosive athlete, dippin rip, he can corner scheme versatility,

1130
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:55,920
Speaker 1: this guy is still scratching the surface. So I'm a

1131
00:58:55,920 --> 00:59:02,520
Speaker 1: big Audilary fan. So my my first I guess draft

1132
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 1: crush was having to deal with a position of need

1133
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 1: and maybe reaching a little bit with that position of need.

1134
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:11,840
Speaker 1: Now I'm reaching with a position that's not so much

1135
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:16,360
Speaker 1: of a need. And Katie, I know you know this guy, Yes, sir, Yes, sir,

1136
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:21,000
Speaker 1: it's Jalen Darden, North Texas. Baby, He's gonna go in

1137
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 1: the third round. Not really, He's probably gonna go in

1138
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:26,040
Speaker 1: like the fifth or the sixth. But if the Cowboys

1139
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:27,560
Speaker 1: pick him in the fifth of the six I would

1140
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:30,280
Speaker 1: want to do do cartwheels because he'll be your fourth

1141
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:33,040
Speaker 1: wide receiver. He'll be a touchdown scoring machine just like

1142
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 1: he was in college. Doesn't matter if he was at

1143
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:38,200
Speaker 1: a small school. If they score touchdowns in college, are

1144
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:40,200
Speaker 1: gonna find a way to score touchdowns in the pros.

1145
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:42,360
Speaker 1: That's what Jaalen Darden is to me, and I want

1146
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:44,880
Speaker 1: the Cowboys to select him. He is such a draft

1147
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:46,840
Speaker 1: crush for me, and I'm trying to get the Cowboys

1148
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:50,760
Speaker 1: on that bandwagon. Darden to Dallas. Baby, Let's figure it out.

1149
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 1: Katie High is tiny, but I love it. Five seven

1150
00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:02,080
Speaker 1: and a half. It means Jeff will like him. Yeah,

1151
01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:04,720
Speaker 1: he might be this year. Is Jakim Grant. We'll see,

1152
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 1: But our Darius Washington to lock him up. I don't know.

1153
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:13,439
Speaker 1: That's the one line I want to see. I don't

1154
01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:15,600
Speaker 1: want to talk about this guy a lot because Jeff

1155
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:17,320
Speaker 1: just tweeted about him today and I had him on

1156
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:19,760
Speaker 1: my list. I'm want to do someone else. But everyone

1157
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 1: go get a good look at Kelvin Joseph, the cornerback

1158
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:25,320
Speaker 1: from Kentucky and there's especially in the play where he

1159
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:29,480
Speaker 1: boxes out Davante Smith. But I want to go to

1160
01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:34,600
Speaker 1: running back because oh no again, just guys, I love,

1161
01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 1: I love because the tape is fun. That mess my

1162
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:40,800
Speaker 1: favorite running back Kenneth Gainwell from Memphis, and we know

1163
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:44,240
Speaker 1: Memphis will churn out some runners. Kenneth Gainwell from from

1164
01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:48,400
Speaker 1: Memphis was so fun to watch. Only he set out

1165
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:51,280
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty. You I could watch his twenty nineteen tape.

1166
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:53,320
Speaker 1: There's a play where they lining up at wide receiver

1167
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:55,400
Speaker 1: and they throw a back shoulder to him and he

1168
01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:58,160
Speaker 1: just flips his hips makes the catch. I mean I

1169
01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:01,360
Speaker 1: think he said yeah. I mean he's he ended up

1170
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:04,360
Speaker 1: natural doing it out of the backfield on a wheel route.

1171
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 1: Just hit him in stride Boom, never stops running, hits

1172
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:10,720
Speaker 1: top speed. I mean, he's a dynamic playmaker. You know.

1173
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:12,800
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's your twenty to twenty five

1174
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:14,680
Speaker 1: carrying game guy, But I don't know if that player

1175
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:17,800
Speaker 1: exists in the league anymore. Except for zeke Um. You know,

1176
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:19,960
Speaker 1: he's a guy who just like, hey get him on

1177
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:21,880
Speaker 1: my team. I'm gonna get get him the ball fifteen

1178
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:31,680
Speaker 1: times a game. Dating real quick. I was gonna see

1179
01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:33,800
Speaker 1: I I was gonna see if you if you had

1180
01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:38,760
Speaker 1: anything to add on Kat's guy. No, he summed it

1181
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:41,800
Speaker 1: up perfectly. Why Gainwell is is awesome. It's the pass

1182
01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:45,680
Speaker 1: catching skills h and his ability to catch outside his

1183
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:49,760
Speaker 1: frame and without breaking stride and make things happen. Um, yeah,

1184
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:53,120
Speaker 1: we know, like Katy said, Memphis has has those athletes.

1185
01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:55,480
Speaker 1: And I think pretty sure he was a quarterback in

1186
01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:58,560
Speaker 1: high school and so you know, a guy that's emerging. Um,

1187
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:01,400
Speaker 1: he really only had one year of experience because he

1188
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:04,040
Speaker 1: opted out of this past year, so there are still

1189
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:06,720
Speaker 1: some things we're you know, learning about him. But if

1190
01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:08,520
Speaker 1: he has a nineteen film was a lot of fun.

1191
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:11,960
Speaker 1: I liked this, kat This was fun, kind of throwing

1192
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:14,160
Speaker 1: out a bunch of names, getting to kind of go

1193
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:17,760
Speaker 1: round table and find some guys that maybe we haven't

1194
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:19,920
Speaker 1: necessarily had a chance to talk about yet, because we're

1195
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:22,360
Speaker 1: gonna have these conversations all the way up until April

1196
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:24,680
Speaker 1: about guys we like, guys we don't like. Maybe we

1197
01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:27,360
Speaker 1: need to find like an anti Valentine next week. Guys

1198
01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:30,680
Speaker 1: we just don't like that. Maybe our Greg Russeau right

1199
01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:32,640
Speaker 1: in the middle. Yeah, Hey, there you go, Gregory Rousseau,

1200
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:39,880
Speaker 1: Hey why Mary. Oh, We've got plenty more to come

1201
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:43,640
Speaker 1: next week. Catch these guys Thursday, ten am Central Time,

1202
01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:46,479
Speaker 1: But until next time for Jeff Kavanaugh, for Kevin kat

1203
01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:48,800
Speaker 1: Turner for Dane Brugler and Chris Beam in the back

1204
01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:50,800
Speaker 1: up Kyle Yeoman's thanks for joining us here on the

1205
01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:54,560
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1206
01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:58,240
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1207
01:02:58,280 --> 01:02:59,000
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