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Speaker 2: Greetings and welcome in another beautiful Fox Football Sunday, three

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Speaker 2: another edition of Fox Football SUNDAYWN by Carmen alongside me

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Speaker 2: with Colin Cowherd one o'clock Eastern Time, breaking down some

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Speaker 2: of the biggest plays of the week and trends and tendencies.

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Speaker 3: All of that.

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Speaker 2: He's a genius and he makes me smarter each it.

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Speaker 2: Every week it's Greg co Sal. Find him in the

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Speaker 2: Twitter verse at Greg co Sal Greg. Happy holiday week.

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Speaker 2: We're finally there. Maybe a couple of minutes of downtime,

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Speaker 2: or at least should retreat with a glass of egg

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Speaker 3: Doing some film with you.

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Speaker 2: Maybe someone slips an extra cookie under the door. I

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Speaker 2: don't know, how are you my friend?

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Speaker 4: I'm doing great.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 4: The thing is for me and Mike, it's football season,

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Speaker 4: so there's not really downtime. You know. I feel like

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Speaker 4: I've got a deadline every day. So it's just, Hey,

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Speaker 4: it's just another day in the life. But you must

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Speaker 4: be happy being a Chicago guy.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm a little bit giddy, right. It's one of

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Speaker 3: those games.

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Speaker 2: Well, like many Bears games over the course of the year, Greg,

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Speaker 2: We've been talking about it all season long where there

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Speaker 2: are stretches where you're shaking your head and going why, how?

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Speaker 3: What is going on? And that was a good three quarters.

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Speaker 2: We watched the Packers and Bears go to a stalemate

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Speaker 2: after two long drives in the first quarter.

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Speaker 3: Hey, how can I outdo you? On a fourth down call?

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Speaker 2: The snap over monding guy's head seem to take all

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Speaker 2: the energy out of the building because the Bears that

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Speaker 2: got dominated thereafter Jordan Love goes out with the concussion,

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Speaker 2: Malik Willis comes in and gives them a bit of

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Speaker 2: a jolt with his legs and the run game getting going.

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Speaker 2: They did rush for nearly two hundred yards did the

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Speaker 2: Packers on the course of the day. But as we know,

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Speaker 2: you got to play a full sixty minutes, and that's

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Speaker 2: what it's all about. With the Bears. Just tune in.

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Speaker 2: It's like an NBA game. You want to see the

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Speaker 2: last five minutes of an NBA game, and with the

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Speaker 2: Bears check in just ahead or right after the two

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, that was I actually watched the tape of

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Speaker 4: that this morning, So it was pretty exciting to watch.

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Speaker 4: I because I didn't see the last part of it

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Speaker 4: live because you know, being on the East coach, I

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Speaker 4: was sleeping, so I think I went to bed at

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Speaker 4: the end of the third quarter. And then when I

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Speaker 4: saw what happened this morning before I came in the office,

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Speaker 4: I was, wow, that really happened, and so I came in.

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Speaker 4: I watched the Bears offense versus the Packers' defense this morning.

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Speaker 4: But with that game in the Thursday night game, Man,

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Speaker 4: we had some some awesome games and it just before

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Speaker 4: we even get to today.

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Speaker 3: No, it's it story for days, but let's hear out

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Speaker 3: and ended for those just waking up. Maybe on the

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Speaker 6: He did go to bed, snap Caleb play Fait looking

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Speaker 6: to throw going teep searching for DJ Moore over the

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Speaker 6: The iceman cometh, the iceman take it a forty six

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Speaker 3: Jeff Joniac on the Bears radio network, it's notable that

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Speaker 2: Why is that significant? Nixon was the guy that cheap

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Speaker 2: telecast Greg they said, well, they know it's football.

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Speaker 3: It's the Bears in the.

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Speaker 2: Packers are like, yeah, that seems penalty worthy, but that's

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Speaker 2: just me. All's fair in love in football between these

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Speaker 2: two NFC North combatants. But Caleb Williams start slow, finish

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Speaker 2: And I don't know if you saw the Replovic greg

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Speaker 2: As soon as he threw the ball, Caleb Williams put

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Speaker 4: Well that was I mean, obviously, that was about as

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Speaker 4: big time of throw as you could make. It traveled

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Speaker 4: have handed it to him any better. I thought, you know,

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Speaker 4: out of thirteen personnel with three tight ends, and I guarantee,

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Speaker 4: based on the flow of the game that Ben Johnson

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Speaker 4: I think more than in any other game, or close

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Speaker 4: you know, we're seeing that around the league. We can

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Speaker 4: talk about that with the Rams as well. But they

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Speaker 4: had thirty seven snaps with either twelve or thirteen personnel

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Speaker 4: meeting two tight ends and three tight ends, and they

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Speaker 4: throw a lot out of that. It's not just in fact,

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Speaker 4: they ran the ball fourteen times out of those thirty

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Speaker 4: And he's actually got the fourth most dropbacks in the

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Speaker 4: I just thought when I saw that, because I didn't,

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Speaker 4: I saw the two run plays before it, and they

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Speaker 4: it just struck me as wow, that's a really good job.

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Speaker 4: But I thought, overall, to be honest, I thought in

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Speaker 4: I thought that Williams really played with tremendous poise, tremendous patients.

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Speaker 4: He didn't chase the big plays, particularly on that field

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Speaker 4: I thought he played like a veteran. He played really

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was funny the field goal to make it

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Speaker 2: two minute warning, and he just like, get the kickoff,

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Speaker 2: Get the kickoff. I was at a gathering that I'd

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Speaker 2: had the game on, and literally, as I'm walking from

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Speaker 2: at Fox Sports Radio generously opened his doors to a

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Speaker 2: bunch of US Ruffians to come and glutton eyes, frad

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Speaker 2: and eyes and watch the Bears. But I'm walking up

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Speaker 2: right as the field goal goes in, I'm like, all right,

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Speaker 2: we gotta watch the end of this. And you know,

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Speaker 2: it got loud, and maybe I was a little bit

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Speaker 4: Not you. You're the quiet type, aren't you.

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Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, yeah, yeah, yeah, retiring, no question about it.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, well no, it's I just thought, like I said,

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Speaker 4: I mean, because the Packers on that fourth quarter field

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Speaker 4: every snap, So you know, like I said, I thought,

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Speaker 4: term a lot of coaches use, don't chase big plays.

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Speaker 4: Instead of trying to force it, he just took what

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Speaker 4: and obviously he can make big throws. I mean that

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Speaker 4: goal drive. Obviously that twenty yard or more was just

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Speaker 4: classic Caleb Williams dry that dig route. And you know,

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Speaker 4: for people who don't think arm strength matters, that's where

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're talking about an eight play, fifty three yard

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Speaker 2: drive minute thirty five. Much was made about an earlier throw.

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Speaker 2: Obviously he left the game with in the concussion protocol.

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Speaker 2: But Jordan Love on a ball he tried to get

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Speaker 2: enough to where oh yeah, from fifteen yards out that I.

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Speaker 4: Saw a lie. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So you saw the wind doing its thing at

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Speaker 2: Soldier Field. But the Bears walk away with a massive

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Speaker 2: twenty two sixteen victory. Only two of eleven on third

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Speaker 2: downs time of possession got crushed.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 2: The first half was the absolute inverse and reversal of

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Speaker 2: and earning some legendary status there in Chicago, all the

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Speaker 2: lot of anger amongst family and friends. I would do

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Speaker 2: a dramatic reading, but most words I would have to redact.

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Speaker 4: Well, it was just one of those games. It was

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Speaker 4: a crazy game because, like I said, until I saw

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Speaker 4: but I didn't realize that that's what had happened. Just

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Speaker 4: one of those games. But he made great throws and

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Speaker 4: then crazy things have to happen, like who would think

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Speaker 4: that Dobbs would not be able to you know, to

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Speaker 4: catch the on side kick. Who would think that the

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Speaker 4: four on the tying touchdown to Walker who probably most

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Speaker 4: people had no idea who he was until last night. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: so it's just tay. Those are the kinds of things

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Speaker 4: that happened when your things are going well and you're

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Speaker 4: you're winning, and obviously they're in first place, right now,

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Speaker 4: but that touchdown pass, I mean, that's that was not flukey.

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Speaker 4: Believe me. That was about as big time of throw

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Speaker 2: Make six to win for the Bears when trailing with

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Speaker 2: two minutes left in the fourth quarter, and then for

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Speaker 2: the Packers. We always talk about it, or at least

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Speaker 2: in field goals are for losers. You got to take

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Speaker 2: care of the red zone business. Yeah, obviously they're important.

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Speaker 2: I don't dismiss them.

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Speaker 3: Right right, right, you go zero for five in the

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Speaker 3: red zone.

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Speaker 4: Well, when you lose, for losers? Yeah, yeah, when you lose,

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Speaker 4: a lot of things are for losers.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's that's true.

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Speaker 2: But you set yourself up right, right, how many games

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Speaker 2: have you watched? Or I was like, here's three drives,

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Speaker 2: you walk away and you're done. No, you're right, time

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Speaker 2: of possession, twelve play drives will settle for a field

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Speaker 2: the Bears gave up one hundred yards a field position

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Speaker 2: on penalties as well.

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Speaker 4: My god, now has he has? He now played for

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Speaker 3: It does seem that way.

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Speaker 3: I think Josh Johnson could do that with all of

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Speaker 4: Point, I think he probably can. I mean, he's what

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Speaker 4: Right right, right, right, all right.

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Speaker 3: It's a well traveled man who got another opportunity.

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Speaker 2: quick rewind of the Thursday night edition of Things, but

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Speaker 2: and I know i'd seen a commercial where he bragged

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Speaker 3: He's got an.

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Speaker 3: Yes, that loss has made this hard to sift through.

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Speaker 9: We did say nine earlier, but Greg, you were correct

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Speaker 4: Good for Josh Johnson, you know you got you gotta

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Speaker 2: Trying to chase him down, his draft class classmate all

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Speaker 2: One last game already in the books. I don't know

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Speaker 4: There's so much in this game, Mike, you know, I

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Speaker 2: See at as fine as because you brought this up

442
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Speaker 2: long ago when they started to transition to this and

443
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Speaker 2: as you mentioned in our recap of the Bears, packers

444
00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:11,760
Speaker 2: starting to see a little bit of the copycat because

445
00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,800
Speaker 2: we've seen that across the league throughout the years. If

446
00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:16,560
Speaker 2: something starts to work, it's like, hey, if we have

447
00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,880
Speaker 2: the personnel or sometimes look for the Bears, they didn't

448
00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,840
Speaker 2: have a lot of wide receivers to deploy, and it

449
00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:27,199
Speaker 2: also became a way to find some extra time for

450
00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:30,960
Speaker 2: Caleb Williams get the ground game restarted. But for the Rams,

451
00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,640
Speaker 2: it's been the excellence of execution. They play this game

452
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Speaker 2: without one of the best red zone options and go

453
00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:40,160
Speaker 2: to guys in the game and DeVante Adams and still

454
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Speaker 2: put up ridiculous pinball like numbers.

455
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I'm just you know, look, I don't know

456
00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,440
Speaker 4: Sean McVay, and I wish I had the batphone and

457
00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:50,800
Speaker 4: could just give him a call and ask him why. Now,

458
00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,760
Speaker 4: obviously they didn't have DeVante Adams Thursday night, so maybe

459
00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:55,920
Speaker 4: they played a few more snaps than they might have.

460
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Speaker 4: But the point is they've been doing it even with

461
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Speaker 4: DeVante Adams. In fact, for the most part, he's been

462
00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:05,080
Speaker 4: the single wide receiver when they play with three tight ends.

463
00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:09,320
Speaker 4: Obviously with him out, Nikoua got many more snaps as

464
00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:12,280
Speaker 4: the single wide receiver in the three tight end package.

465
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Speaker 4: But there's obviously, I mean a method to his madness.

466
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Speaker 4: I mean, he's brilliant, and you know, I'm going to

467
00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:20,679
Speaker 4: try to find this out, you know, whether it happens

468
00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,720
Speaker 4: during the season or after the season. But somewhere along

469
00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,359
Speaker 4: the line, given that weeks one through six, Mike, they

470
00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,480
Speaker 4: played no snaps with three tight ends, and then all

471
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Speaker 4: of a sudden he decided to do this, something clicked.

472
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Speaker 4: I mean, you know, these guys don't do things on

473
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Speaker 4: a whim, you know that. I mean, I know sometimes

474
00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,280
Speaker 4: fans think that they might just, you know, just do stuff.

475
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Speaker 4: But they these guys think all this stuff through, and

476
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Speaker 4: I just be fascinated to know what the process was

477
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Speaker 4: that got to this point.

478
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Speaker 2: I'll send you the stationary in the stamps. You do

479
00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:56,760
Speaker 2: the Andy duframe part. Start with a letter a week,

480
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Speaker 2: and then if he doesn't respond, we'll up at the

481
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Speaker 2: two and three, and that eventual it will be like

482
00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 2: the flood of letters coming out right Potter's house.

483
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Speaker 4: And then on the other side of the ball, I mean,

484
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:11,000
Speaker 4: you know, you know that I'm a quarterback guy, and

485
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,200
Speaker 4: when I see just great quarterback play like we saw

486
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,600
Speaker 4: with Caleb Williams on that touchdown that we spoke about

487
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:19,280
Speaker 4: that won the game yesterday. But when Darnold hit hit

488
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,159
Speaker 4: cup for twenty one yards on overtime in overtime, and

489
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Speaker 4: I'm sure you remember the play, I mean, he got

490
00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:29,080
Speaker 4: just drilled by Verse. I mean it was a te

491
00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:32,560
Speaker 4: stun and Verse was clean on the loop and he

492
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 4: just got drilled and he made a big time corner throw.

493
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Speaker 4: You know, those are big time quarterback plays. Somewhere along

494
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Speaker 4: the line. In this league, your quarterback has to be

495
00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 4: able to make those kinds of throws. Now, it might

496
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,840
Speaker 4: not happen every week, you know, But somewhere along the line,

497
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,560
Speaker 4: you've got to be able to stand there, show pocket

498
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Speaker 4: toughness and deliver the football.

499
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Speaker 2: Because he stood in and he took a licking. I

500
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Speaker 2: mean he took some We have some wicked smashes over

501
00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,960
Speaker 2: the course of the day. Obviously a lot was made

502
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 2: of the Turner interception, great disengagement in stepping back a

503
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 2: couple of steps, and hey, look what I got when

504
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,439
Speaker 2: he was into JSN.

505
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Speaker 4: I'm glad you mention that, because you know, I always

506
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 4: look at interceptions individually, because it's always easy to say.

507
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 4: And I'm sure when they were down thirty fourteen in

508
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 4: the fourth quarter, people were saying, oh, Donald, Darnold, you know,

509
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:24,200
Speaker 4: here's a Donald. You know how that comes.

510
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,960
Speaker 2: Never mind the Cooper cup dropped getting the ball stripped

511
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,720
Speaker 2: from him as they were going in right, right possession

512
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:30,119
Speaker 2: or right.

513
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:35,200
Speaker 4: But that interception, to me was just a great defensive

514
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,399
Speaker 4: call by Shula because they showed a six man front

515
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 4: with what we call a zero presentation, and he had

516
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,680
Speaker 4: Smith and Jig but basically white. I don't want to

517
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,239
Speaker 4: say wide open, but there was a passing window and

518
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 4: there's no way as a quarterback. You could speak to

519
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 4: Tom Brady, you could speak to any quarterback. There's no

520
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:55,640
Speaker 4: way you expect Turner who started to rush the quarterback. Now,

521
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:57,920
Speaker 4: it's not as if he dropped out right away. Who

522
00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:01,280
Speaker 4: started to rush the quarterback and then dropped and happened

523
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,200
Speaker 4: to be right in the passing lane. There's no way

524
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 4: that Donald anticipated that or accounted for it. So it

525
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 4: looks really bad, and we all get that. It looks like,

526
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,359
Speaker 4: oh my god, what a horrible play, But that's just

527
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,640
Speaker 4: a great defensive play in that moment. It was obviously

528
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,960
Speaker 4: the low red zone. But you know, I've always thought

529
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Speaker 4: one of Donald's best traits Mike is that he stays

530
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:26,199
Speaker 4: aggressive as a thrower. No matter what the situation is.

531
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Speaker 4: He's always willing to turn it loose and make the

532
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Speaker 4: kind of tight window throws that you have to make

533
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Speaker 4: in the NFL.

534
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Speaker 2: That's one of my favorite characteristics to him going back,

535
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,119
Speaker 2: even when things were spiraling with the Jets.

536
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's still a guy that's going to give you everything.

537
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:43,359
Speaker 2: And you know, not to belabor the Chicago point, but

538
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 2: a lot so made about Caleb Williams, Yeah, and his

539
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 2: completion percentage, and look, he missed his throws.

540
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Speaker 3: They all do.

541
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Speaker 2: But when it gets down to it, and I heard it.

542
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 2: It was Ryan Leaf was on the radio broadcast and

543
00:25:57,960 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 2: and he just pointed out, he goes, look, he's throwing

544
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:00,880
Speaker 2: like they did.

545
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,919
Speaker 3: When I was playing and before. Where the ball's not

546
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 3: two yards you know, Hey, the guy's five feet for

547
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:08,920
Speaker 3: me and accounts as a completion.

548
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,919
Speaker 4: It's like this, no, and it's you know, it's funny.

549
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,919
Speaker 4: Much depends on game situation. Obviously. You know you're not

550
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 4: just going to say to your quarterback just start start right.

551
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 4: It's what we spoke about earlier in the first section

552
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:26,400
Speaker 4: about Williams, that he wasn't chasing the big play and

553
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 4: the game dictates how you play, you know. And I

554
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 4: think that's that's why when I hear terms like game manager,

555
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 4: which in most people's minds, Mike, is a pejorative negative term.

556
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 4: It's not every quarterback is a game manager. Game management

557
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 4: doesn't mean it's not a negative. You have to be

558
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 4: in control of how that specific game is being played.

559
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 4: And by the way, uh and well, you know, we

560
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 4: mentioned Philadelphiam We've talked about them already, but I always

561
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,159
Speaker 4: thought that was one of Jalen Hurts greatest traits is

562
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 4: Jalen Hurts plays the game as the game is being played,

563
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 4: the way it needs needs to be played. So therefore

564
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 4: there are a lot of games where he doesn't put

565
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 4: up numbers and and you know, his limitations so to

566
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 4: speak as a passer have been documented for years. But

567
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 4: he plays the game the way the game needs to

568
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 4: be played on that given Sunday, and you know there's

569
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,239
Speaker 4: something to be said for that. You know, that's what

570
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 4: That's part of playing quarterback.

571
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,159
Speaker 3: No question about it. As we look at it.

572
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 2: Kenneth Walker, with a couple of big explosive plays in

573
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:27,159
Speaker 2: that game, finished with one hundred and sixty four total

574
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 2: yards on his fourteen touches. JSN shut out early, but

575
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 2: not for long. Eight for ninety six at a score

576
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 2: before it's all said and done. DJ Barner coming up huge. Yeah,

577
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 2: I mean a lot of debates about referees and whatever else.

578
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 2: We were treated to seventy five points on a Thursday

579
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 2: night game.

580
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 4: I don't get into that.

581
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,639
Speaker 3: He can, yeah, yeah, it was just don't do that.

582
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,920
Speaker 3: Yeah we did that for four hours people. Yeah yeah,

583
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:54,360
Speaker 3: yeahdcast Smith, that I do. I don't do that living color, But.

584
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,160
Speaker 4: I mean that game and the Bears game. I mean,

585
00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 4: that's that's just pro football. I mean, those are unbelieve games.

586
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 4: They're just they're just so compelling in so many ways,

587
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 4: Like you don't. I mean, obviously, I'm an ex and

588
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 4: O guy, and that's what I love when I watch

589
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 4: the tape. I love seeing all that. But that's one

590
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 4: of the greatest things about the NFL is you can

591
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 4: enjoy these games on so many different levels.

592
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 3: That's it.

593
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,640
Speaker 2: We'll try to enjoy one a little bit later in Dallas.

594
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:21,360
Speaker 2: Now eliminated officially from the playoffs, but they'll host the Chargers,

595
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 2: still very much in the thick of it. Justin Herbert

596
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 2: gets all the kudos and rightly deserved, and like so

597
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,200
Speaker 2: many others battling week after week with all the injuries

598
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,119
Speaker 2: and hits that have piled up throughout the year, they

599
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 2: got the two headed running back situation back in full

600
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 2: effect for him. His two hundred and ten passing yards

601
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 2: last week Greg was his highest total since Week ten.

602
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 4: So wow, wow, that I didn't realize.

603
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 2: So we got shut out of the end zone once

604
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 2: this year. So consistency, at least continuing to move the ball.

605
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 2: They're trying to get McConkey reactivated. The last couple of weeks,

606
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 2: he's been virtually invisible. Keenan Allen had a welcome home

607
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 2: for a couple of weeks, he's been kind of quiet.

608
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 2: So trying to see if they can get this jump

609
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 2: started against a Dallas defense. Bland goes to the IRR.

610
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 2: Diggs is going to be activated and ready to play today.

611
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, obviously Herbert's had the injury, and you know,

612
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 4: their past game hasn't been what it was earlier in

613
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 4: the season. We'll see how they choose to play. You know,

614
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 4: that'll be a big question. Do they do they attempt

615
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 4: to get their past game back or do they feel, hey,

616
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 4: we can run the ball. Hampton's back. Our defense is

617
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 4: playing well. Of course they're playing a good offense.

618
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 3: But that's it, right.

619
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Speaker 2: The Jesse Minter side of it to me, and how

620
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 2: it tries to deploy against these wide outs and what

621
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 2: Dak Prescott's done is really going to be the fascinating

622
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 2: part of the tape for me.

623
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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I would agree with that, And so we'll

624
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 4: see how offensively that Jim Harbough and Grig Roman choose

625
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 4: to play it. Like I said, the idea is to

626
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 4: win these games. You know, the yardage is wonderful, and

627
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 4: that's what people look at, you know when they decide

628
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 4: to evaluate quarterbacks or think about MVPs or things of

629
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 4: that nature. But you know, the idea is to play

630
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 4: each game as it is and to win that game.

631
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 4: And and they you know, they've been doing that. And you know,

632
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 4: I'm glad you mentioned Jesse Minner because I think their

633
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 4: defense is a lot better than it's talked about. Let's

634
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 4: put it that way.

635
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, we look at that and he's one of those

636
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 2: guys that as jobs become available. Yeah, I mean he's

637
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 2: he's trying to put some stuff up on tape as well. Right,

638
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 2: last week some big some big moments for them, and

639
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 2: this week another test against one of the the game's

640
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 2: great offenses to this point in the seasons. So another

641
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 2: opportunity to put a feather in the gap. I mean,

642
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 2: they eliminated the Chiefs, he'd be remiss. You know, we'll

643
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 2: get to them in short order for that minute that case.

644
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's that's about all it'll get.

645
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, congratulations on a job, but it's Gardner, Minshew. It

646
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 2: gives us another starter and on my big board of starts.

647
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 2: I think that makes for fifty three for minshew. No, no, no, no,

648
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 2: for the for the year fifty three stars.

649
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:02,479
Speaker 4: Oh oh, got it, got it.

650
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 3: Yeah we list no no Quen yours. We already had Cook.

651
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 3: We'll get him again minshew. Yeah. So it just keeps going.

652
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm actually fascinating to see quin yours because you know,

653
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 4: I'll be the first to admit, and I've discussed this.

654
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 4: I watched Quinn yours for three years in great detail

655
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 4: at Texas and uh, because I kept thinking he would

656
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Speaker 4: come out because obviously, as you probably remember, he was

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Speaker 4: viewed as the number one quarterback coming out of high school. Uh,

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Speaker 4: in a big high school in Texas, one of the

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Speaker 4: big ones, and started Ohio State, then left went to Texas,

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Speaker 4: and you know, I thought his tape was was very uneven.

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Speaker 4: I thought he had a lot of issues that would

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Speaker 4: cause problems transitioning to the league.

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Speaker 11: Uh.

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Speaker 4: But he's been in the league. He's been with Mike McDaniel,

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Speaker 4: who's comes from the Kyle Shanahan school. Maybe a lot

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Speaker 4: of the mechanical issues have been cleaned up. I guess we'll,

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Speaker 4: you know, I'll have to see him play, but uh,

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Speaker 4: uh we'll see how it goes. But I'm very anxious

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Speaker 4: to see that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, certainly a game with a lot of intrigue and

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Speaker 2: even though both teams are sputtering towards the finish line

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Speaker 2: here and you know, we don't do a lot of

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Speaker 2: that on this particular show. When you start looking at

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Speaker 2: at taping, kind of going eh, what like because the

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Speaker 2: Joe Burrow effort last week against Baltimore and what Cincinnati

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Speaker 2: put on tape there, Greg, that was not good for anybody.

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Speaker 4: No, no, that that just had a bad feel to it.

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Speaker 4: But look, Baltimore's we'll get to that game, I know

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Speaker 4: for sure. Patriots at Ravens, I mean that is a big,

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Speaker 4: big game, Marquise stuff. Yeah, it's one of the biggest

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Speaker 4: on the slate today.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll get to that as we continue here at

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radios, Fox Football Sunday. There it was our

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Speaker 2: glancing blow at Cincinnati, Miami and case Tennessee. We have

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Speaker 2: seen a little bit better from mister Ward the last

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Speaker 2: couple of weeks. We'll see if he can continue his

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Speaker 2: upward trend. Thirty eight is the total for that one,

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Speaker 2: So don't expect massive fireworks there. And maybe you play

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Speaker 2: both deep is in your fantasy playoffs. If you're looking

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Speaker 2: for a little bit of a jolt there at Great

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Speaker 2: Go Salas where you find him in the Twitter verse,

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Speaker 2: find me over at Swollen Dome. As always, you can

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Speaker 2: get the podcast after we're done here today, Lee lell

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Speaker 2: Dan bayer Ian, Roddy and I break down in earnest

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Speaker 2: about seventy to seventy five players by time it's all

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Speaker 2: said and done in their fantasy potential for this week.

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Speaker 2: So go back in there and take a look. Hey,

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Speaker 2: you can judge three of the games and tell me

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Speaker 2: how smart or well how I'm not based on some

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Speaker 2: early returns. But we'll continue as we go. We'll get

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Speaker 2: to that New England Baltimore game next, Lamar Jackson, Drake May.

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Speaker 2: It's primetime viewing for everyone. As you get to your

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Speaker 2: holiday holiday holiday table set, we'll set it for you

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Speaker 2: here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: Next you're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back in It's Fox Football Sunday, Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: At Swollen Dome at Greg coach sal Greg, we mentioned

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Speaker 2: it this Baltimore, New England game, one of the more

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Speaker 2: fascinating on the board, forty eight and a half the

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Speaker 2: total Sunday Night Football Baltimore A field goal favorite Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 2: We saw him moving his legs a little bit more

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Speaker 2: last week, something we've been clamoring for for a while.

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Speaker 2: New England they drop a huge game, big comeback twenty

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Speaker 2: one nothing.

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Speaker 3: Buffalo had it right where they want it. And then

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Speaker 3: Josh Help put on his cape and away we go. Baltimore.

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Speaker 3: Here we were looking, you know, go ahead, Greg, No.

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Speaker 4: I was going to say it's Buffalo. I did a

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Speaker 4: lot of research. You know, Buffalo is a team I

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Speaker 4: look at really closely every week. A couple of things

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Speaker 4: struck me in that game and then throughout their season.

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Speaker 4: I bet a lot of people would be surprised, Mike

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Speaker 4: that the Buffalo Bills run the ball more than any

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Speaker 4: team in the NFL in the second half, and that

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Speaker 4: James Cook has the most second half carries of any

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Speaker 4: back in the league. Think about that for a minute.

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Speaker 4: This is a team that when they're down at halftime,

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Speaker 4: and they have been in a number of games this year,

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Speaker 4: they always come out and they run the football. That's

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Speaker 4: how they stabilize their offense and generate sustainability. They don't

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Speaker 4: just say, Josh, you go out and make plays. They

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Speaker 4: run the football. I mean, like I said, James Cook

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Speaker 4: the most second half carries of any back in the league.

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Speaker 4: And this has not been a team that's been up

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Speaker 4: thirty to ten in the second half. Assume, okay, you know,

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Speaker 4: give James Cook the ball, so it's not Josh Allen.

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Speaker 4: This is no knock on Josh Allen, by the way,

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Speaker 4: but the point is this is the way they play.

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Speaker 4: And I also thought that Sean McDermott and their staff

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Speaker 4: last week. They made a couple of adjustments clearly at

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Speaker 4: halftime to come out in the second half. And you know,

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Speaker 4: you don't know if the adjustments of the reason Drake

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Speaker 4: May did not have a great second half, But all

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Speaker 4: I can tell you is what the tape showed. They

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Speaker 4: chose in their nickel package to play with three linebackers,

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Speaker 4: So they went with three three five nickel meaning three

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Speaker 4: d lineman, three linebackers, five dbs as opposed to two linebackers.

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Speaker 4: And then they played a lot of what we call

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Speaker 4: two man coverage and they spied on May, so those

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Speaker 4: things that's what they did and it worked. So you

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Speaker 4: know a lot of people say things like wal it's

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Speaker 4: a blueprint. I'm not a blueprint print believer, but it

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Speaker 4: worked in that specific game.

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Speaker 2: James Cook fourteen and fifteen yards coming in today, one

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Speaker 2: carry behind Jonathan Taylor.

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Speaker 4: That's amazing, isn't it.

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Speaker 3: Would you believe this if I were to tell who

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Speaker 3: do you think is the third.

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Speaker 4: You means third most carries, the third most carries in

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Speaker 4: the league in the league. All right, let me can

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Speaker 4: I get a moment here?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Take take a moment, as I fill a buster and

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Speaker 2: lay it out well, win over.

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Speaker 3: I don't forget the guy throw the ball twelve times.

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Speaker 4: Some guys have played an extra game, so sure you know, right,

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Speaker 4: so we were counting that the extra game. Yeah, I

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Speaker 4: would bet it's this.

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Speaker 2: It is, But based on what the output has been

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Speaker 2: over the course of the year, the discombobulated nature of

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Speaker 2: that Philly offense for much of the year, Greg, I

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Speaker 2: think that would surprise a lot of people.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I would agree, but they still I mean off yesterday.

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Speaker 4: You know, they still give them the ball. I mean,

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Speaker 4: it's not a case where they don't give them the ball,

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Speaker 4: it's just that they haven't rushed for many yards.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to carry versus five point eight a

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Speaker 2: year ago. Fourth on the list, our old friend Christian McCaffrey.

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Speaker 2: We'll get to him in earnest coming up, averaging just

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Speaker 2: three point six yards per carry on the season as

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Speaker 2: we go. But if you're Baltimore, how do you attack

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Speaker 2: the New England defense with what you've got? Zay Flowers,

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Speaker 2: your tight ends, Derrick Henry, who runs the ball well

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Speaker 2: in spurts but hasn't been the same back and certainly

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Speaker 2: doesn't give you a whole lot out of the backfield,

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Speaker 2: maybe more Ali and others to spell him and get

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Speaker 2: some juice in the game to the outside.

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Speaker 4: I have found Baltimore's offense this year to be a

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Speaker 4: very difficult offense to kind of evaluate and get a

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Speaker 4: sense of identity. I mean, obviously, Derrick Henry, I mean

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Speaker 4: he still has you know, his two hundred plus carries,

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Speaker 4: whatever that number is.

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm sure to thirty three.

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Speaker 4: There you go, two thirty three.

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Speaker 2: He was actually averaging four point eight per carry. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it was number watching watching.

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Speaker 4: No, no, right, it doesn't feel like that Derrick Henry,

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Speaker 4: even with the two thirty three and the four point eight,

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Speaker 4: as you just said, it doesn't feel like they're a

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Speaker 4: running team the way they have been the last couple

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Speaker 4: of years with Derrick Henry and their past game feels

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Speaker 4: very uneven and sporadic. I mean, don't you feel that

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Speaker 4: even when I watch tape just I don't get a

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Speaker 4: sense that here's their identity, here's what they're doing, well,

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Speaker 4: here's what I know they can do well. Week to week.

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Speaker 4: I almost feel like each week I'm uncertain as to

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Speaker 4: what they're going to look like. So I don't really

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Speaker 4: know the answer to your question, I'm just being honest

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Speaker 4: based on the tape. You know, they don't seem to

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Speaker 4: have a true identity, one has not really developed this season.

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Speaker 2: By way of contrast, Drake May and company, we're looking

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Speaker 2: at Trevon Henderson became the leader in the clubhouse for

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Speaker 2: offensive Rookie of the Year after his big explosive runs

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Speaker 2: that gave him the most since Chris Johnson was doing

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Speaker 2: that back in the day for the Tennessee Titans.

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Speaker 4: Wow. Now I know they would love to be able

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Speaker 4: to run the ball with consistency. You know, May obviously

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Speaker 4: did not have a great second half last week, but

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Speaker 4: he's had a terrific season. The Baltimore defense has played

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Speaker 4: extremely well over what the last five or six weeks.

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Speaker 4: So this is a really interesting matchup and it's in Baltimore.

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Speaker 4: This is a fascinating game. I'm really curious to see

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Speaker 4: how Drake May responds.

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Speaker 2: Huge win, huge game for the AFC and certainly Baltimore

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Speaker 2: in their playoff chase at Great CoA cell where you

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Speaker 2: find and find me over at Swollen don't remember the

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio, still riding high.

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Speaker 2: Hour two of the program, dancing around, strutting like a peacock. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: the Bears one and it is holiday holiday, holiday week.

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Speaker 2: Welcome in another hour, Fox Football Sunday, Mike Harvin, Greg

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Speaker 2: Coat sell with you. Sorry, I gotta run this because

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Speaker 2: I got I got a couple of Lions guys.

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Speaker 3: I got a Packers guy right here, Mark laugh.

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Speaker 2: So then my only protection as a fellow Bears fan

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Speaker 2: has left the building.

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Speaker 4: So oh oh, I gotta tell you, Mike, I'm extremely disappointed.

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Speaker 4: Why is that you didn't ask me about my celebration

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Speaker 4: cupcake yesterday?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 4: I failed, you failed miserably.

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Speaker 3: I did. Did you get any extras based on us

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Speaker 3: talking about it?

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Speaker 4: No? No, I you know, I just went. I went

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Speaker 4: with my routine, you know. But it was good. It

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Speaker 4: was really good.

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Speaker 3: I blew it.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: This celebration cupcake is for those unaware. Right, you might

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Speaker 2: go get your nine dollars drink. You might go and

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Speaker 2: a coffee cake no, no, no, it's a celebration cupcake.

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Speaker 2: And I appreciate that about you because you know what

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Speaker 2: the goal is to go one and oh every day.

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00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,320
Speaker 4: There you go. So there you go, just another Saturday

874
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 4: at Barnes and Noble with a celebration cupcake.

875
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 3: There you go. Do you go? Peru's the magazine section

876
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:42,280
Speaker 3: a little bit, oh some cars.

877
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 4: Or no, no no. I usually read about music. I

878
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:46,320
Speaker 4: love to read about music, okay, because I love music.

879
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 4: I just have zero I've never had any musical talent,

880
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 4: but I love to read about it.

881
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:52,839
Speaker 2: No, that's it. I go down that rabbit hole as well.

882
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 2: You know the here's the Collector's edition of nine hundred

883
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 2: pages of Queen.

884
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 4: There you go.

885
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 2: All of a sudden, you're going down the Brian may. I.

886
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 2: I want to be an astrophysicist.

887
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 5: Uh well, you know, well.

888
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 4: You know, as as they say, fat bottom girls, they

889
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:08,240
Speaker 4: make the rock and world go around.

890
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 2: That is true. That is that is categorically true. And

891
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 2: outside of Sweet Caroline and that new huge action movie,

892
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 2: I don't know that there's any song that really unites

893
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 2: people at a karaoke bar greater.

894
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 4: Than Sweet Caroline.

895
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:25,839
Speaker 2: Well, Sweet Caroline wins because everybody can do dot they

896
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 2: don't need Yeah. Sure, no matter how drunk you are,

897
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:29,240
Speaker 2: you can still.

898
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 3: Blurt that out. Yeah, and then fatt Girls gets people

899
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 3: fired up.

900
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 4: That that's for sure.

901
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 3: That's a good one, no question about it.

902
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:39,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, yeah, you got karaoke suggestion. Look, it's

903
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 2: the holidays. Karaoke machines have come down tremendously in price.

904
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:45,799
Speaker 3: You might find one under your tree. So if you

905
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 3: have song requests, I'll built out a few bars.

906
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 4: I guess as long as you I guess, as long

907
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 4: as you have the egg, the karaoke can can follow

908
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 4: pretty seamlessly.

909
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 2: No, that's just it. I mean, you don't need the amplifiers.

910
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 2: I mean to get one of us radio types in the.

911
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 3: Room and it will help lead the way.

912
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 4: There you go, as we go through Hey.

913
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 2: For the best pregame show every weekend, be sure to

914
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,600
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915
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916
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917
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918
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919
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Speaker 2: the iHeart app All right, so I mentioned the team name, Well,

921
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 2: they need some help. They need to take care of

922
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 2: their own business. And later on they'll have the veteran

923
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers coming to visit. Can we hear a little

924
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers?

925
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 1: Rogers under center gets a snap play action pass looking

926
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,280
Speaker 1: steps up, throws to the right, to the left.

927
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 4: I beg your pardon.

928
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 5: Touchdown, Pittsburgh student.

929
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 2: How about that Marquez Beldez scan playing with his first

930
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 2: reception as a member of the Steelers, and it is

931
00:43:57,920 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 2: a Pittsburgh Steelers touchdown.

932
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:03,360
Speaker 3: I like that little blast from the past. As MVS

933
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 3: joins the Frey there in Pittsburgh, as the Pittsburgh Steelers

934
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 3: take a twenty eight to fifteen win over Miami that

935
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:15,839
Speaker 3: makes them winners of three of their last four Cincinnati,

936
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 3: Baltimore and Miami. Those wins and then.

937
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 2: The crushing loss to the Buffalo Bills going back to

938
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 2: the end of November. But for Rogers in company, I mean,

939
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 2: the most impressive thing or encouraging thing I guess the

940
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 2: last couple of weeks, Greg is we started to see

941
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:31,280
Speaker 2: DK Metcalf.

942
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was just gonna say that, I was thinking

943
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 4: as you played, that is MVS starting to approach Josh

944
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:37,240
Speaker 4: johnson territory.

945
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 3: Als he might be bouncing around a little bit.

946
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:44,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, but no, the key, one of the keys clearly

947
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 4: is that DK Metcalf is now becoming a bigger factor.

948
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 4: In the past game, Rogers is throwing some vertical shots

949
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:54,280
Speaker 4: to him. Obviously he can run, he's big, he's physical.

950
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 4: And then I think their past game, which has been

951
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 4: kind of pedestrian, if I could use that where they

952
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 4: you know, Rogers has been very efficient but not a

953
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 4: lot of yards, and I think that if you're a

954
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 4: Steelers fan, hopefully they're working toward that where the ball

955
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 4: gets pushed a little more down the field. And obviously

956
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 4: they're playing a Lions defense that the secondary is there's

957
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 4: a lot of injuries there. We just saw that Kirby

958
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:22,359
Speaker 4: Joseph went on ir so he's essentially done for the year.

959
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 4: I guess, so their safety position is now guys that

960
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 4: are backups and guys they had to bringing off the street.

961
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 4: So we'll see. I mean, maybe this is a week,

962
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:33,799
Speaker 4: you know, the game obviously where the won't be an issue.

963
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 4: They're playing in Detroit, so it's a fast surface. This

964
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 4: is a very big game for Pittsburgh because the Lions

965
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 4: can score.

966
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you want to go, tickets are at least

967
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 2: two hundred and sixty dollars for this one to see

968
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 2: a couple of any whites get after it. Lions at

969
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 2: home and a nice short jaunt for the folks in

970
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:53,799
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh to pack up the caravan and get over that way,

971
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:56,720
Speaker 2: as we know how well they travel. For Jared Goff

972
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 2: eight touchdowns against one pick the last four games. I

973
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 2: guess the Jamiir Gibbs factor, and this is certainly something

974
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 2: fantasy owners.

975
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 3: Are well aware of.

976
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 2: Greg over the last couple of games, like the last six.

977
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:13,720
Speaker 2: To say it, it reads like binary code, except instead

978
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:15,360
Speaker 2: of a one, it's a three.

979
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 3: Three zero three zero three zero.

980
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 2: That's how many touchdowns he's had three of those games

981
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:23,839
Speaker 2: and then three without three points since yards or worse,

982
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 2: four of his last six.

983
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 4: It'll be interesting because they get their left guard back,

984
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 4: Christian Mahogany, he was out for I guess he was

985
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,760
Speaker 4: on IR and they really struggled at the left guard position,

986
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 4: which is why they went after Frank Ragno, who obviously

987
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 4: you know couldn't play fail the physical and that's been

988
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:44,319
Speaker 4: when you watch the tape, you really see issues over

989
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 4: this last month at the left guard position in one

990
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:49,800
Speaker 4: on one matchups, whether it's in the run game or

991
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,359
Speaker 4: in pass pro. So now that they get Mahogany back

992
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 4: and he was their starter, obviously, second year player out

993
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 4: of Boston College, a pretty good player, so we'll see

994
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:00,080
Speaker 4: how that impacts their off.

995
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:02,319
Speaker 2: We've also seen over the last couple of weeks the

996
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 2: reemergence of Jameson Williams. Three weeks of seven receptions, ninety

997
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:10,760
Speaker 2: six or more receiving yards in all of those games,

998
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:13,839
Speaker 2: two touchdowns, and the target counts up at twenty nine

999
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:16,879
Speaker 2: over that time, So pushing the ball downfield with him

1000
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 2: as well.

1001
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 4: You know what's your thought on this is Jared Goff.

1002
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 4: I feel like he's for all these years a very

1003
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 4: overlooked player. I mean, he's one of those guys that

1004
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:31,280
Speaker 4: just has seemingly has a really good year every year.

1005
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 4: He's a little he's old school. Obviously, he's not a playmaker.

1006
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 4: He doesn't make those plays that you see on highlight

1007
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 4: shows obviously, other than he just throws the ball really well.

1008
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 4: But again, another outstanding season over sixty nine percent completion,

1009
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:49,479
Speaker 4: twenty nine touchdowns, only five picks, probably throws the ball

1010
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:52,320
Speaker 4: between the numbers in sort of the fourteen to twenty

1011
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 4: two yard air yards range as well as any quarterback.

1012
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 4: Caleb Williams is now getting into that category as well,

1013
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 4: and it's the Ben Johnson effect, but it's he's just

1014
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 4: been a really, really good player.

1015
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:07,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, we've been talking about it a lot, the working

1016
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:10,800
Speaker 2: out of play action and what it's got. Twenty nine touchdowns,

1017
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 2: five interceptions on the year, thirty six hundred seventy two

1018
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:15,919
Speaker 2: yards thus far.

1019
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 3: You know what to do.

1020
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 2: We got a guy Chris Purfett, our technical producer. He's

1021
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 2: covered the Lions for many a year, So I give

1022
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 2: you the floor of your response as a guy who's

1023
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 2: followed this team and gets the positive and negative text

1024
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 2: like I do about bear stuff.

1025
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 11: Yeah, Jared Gof's just fascinating in that way because, as

1026
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:39,839
Speaker 11: you say, like everything should you know, have you appreciate him?

1027
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 11: But like there are those games where it just it

1028
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 11: looks like the pressure gets to him and it just

1029
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 11: really starts to like throw him off. So I wonder

1030
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 11: how much that kind of caps the perception of him

1031
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 11: at times, especially like something like the Thanksgiving game where

1032
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 11: they you know, they get rattled a little couple times

1033
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 11: up front by the Packers and suddenly the whole game

1034
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 11: plan just kind of starts. It's just it's just been

1035
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:04,360
Speaker 11: a little uneven this year for the Lions with implementing

1036
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 11: this new system, with John Morton, not having Ben Johnson

1037
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:10,759
Speaker 11: running the plays, and you know, as always not having

1038
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:12,839
Speaker 11: Frank Ragnow and some of their you know, more short

1039
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 11: handed guys like alman Ra Saint Brown kind of finally

1040
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 11: had some drops this year. It's kind of led us

1041
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 11: to plus the defensive injuries to all of this.

1042
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:26,319
Speaker 4: But yeah, well you know, he's and the pressure thing

1043
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 4: is always going to be an issue to some degree

1044
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 4: because he's a pocket player. He's a pure pocket quarterback. Yeah,

1045
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 4: can he roll out once in a while or can

1046
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:36,399
Speaker 4: every once in a while, can he make a play

1047
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 4: where he moves, But for the most part, he's a

1048
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 4: pocket player, needs to be protected. But he's very efficient

1049
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 4: and he throws those intermediate balls as well as anybody.

1050
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 4: It's just in this new era of quarterbacks, so to speak,

1051
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:52,800
Speaker 4: where we were used to the Mahomes, the Allens, the Jackson's,

1052
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 4: the guys that move. Caleb is now, you know, certainly

1053
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:58,879
Speaker 4: in that category. The way he can move. He has

1054
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 4: great spatial awareness when he moves. So GOP's not that

1055
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 4: guy in many respects. He's a dinosaur, but he's very,

1056
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:06,880
Speaker 4: very good at what he is.

1057
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I will throw this last one out. Rag now

1058
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:12,759
Speaker 2: mentioned a couple of times here. I don't know that

1059
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 2: I've cheered for a potential return of a player and

1060
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:17,840
Speaker 2: even though it was gonna hurt potentially the bears of

1061
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 2: his returning just one of my favorite guys to watch.

1062
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 2: So I don't know an appreciation for Lineman and what

1063
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:27,800
Speaker 2: they mean to uh making the machine run. I guess

1064
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 2: maybe I've been pressed down a lot by the guys

1065
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 2: that have walked through these or Sports Radio Greg. Maybe

1066
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 2: maybe that's what affects me or Rev Sorry, once upon

1067
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 2: a time.

1068
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 4: Very wow, there's a name from the past.

1069
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:43,240
Speaker 3: Well, I mean autograph seeking as a kid going.

1070
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:45,359
Speaker 4: Out to you gotta be you gotta be an Ollen

1071
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 4: Cruitz guy. A lot of people he should be in

1072
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 4: the Hall of Fame all Fame. Yeah, a lot of

1073
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:49,760
Speaker 4: people believe that.

1074
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 2: I'm gonna stick, you know, just like celebration cupcakes and

1075
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:57,400
Speaker 2: letter writing campaigns. That's one I'm gonna take up. How

1076
00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 2: do we get old?

1077
00:50:58,080 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 4: No, there's You're not the only one who believes that,

1078
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:01,359
Speaker 4: by the way, And I'm not going to sit here

1079
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 4: and say I studied every play of all and crude,

1080
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 4: so I'm not going to you know, I can't speak

1081
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:08,799
Speaker 4: to that with any real intelligence, but I know there's

1082
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:10,400
Speaker 4: a lot of people a lot smarter than I am

1083
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 4: about offensive line play who believe that he should be

1084
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:13,839
Speaker 4: in the Hall of Fame.

1085
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 2: There you go, So that that comes up, But it's

1086
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:20,720
Speaker 2: just you know, guys like rag Now and players that grind.

1087
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 2: To make your offense look pretty, someone's got to do

1088
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 2: the dirty work. So we move on from that game

1089
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Speaker 2: and look at another big an NFC South battle as

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00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 2: we look at Tampa Bay and Carolinea. Tampa Bay a

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00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 2: field goal favorite Mike Evans came back last week, had

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00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 2: a big week. Unfortunately he was the only one. Bucky

1093
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:46,320
Speaker 2: Irving's been okay eighty one total yards per game the

1094
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 2: last three since he's come back greg but he's not

1095
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:50,799
Speaker 2: really been as big a factor in the passing game

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00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 2: as he was pre injury. And and we really have

1097
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:58,399
Speaker 2: seen the best of Amika Buca was the first six

1098
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:01,440
Speaker 2: weeks of the season. He's fallen off tremendously, had been

1099
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 2: affected by some drops, and we've watched things get a

1100
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:08,840
Speaker 2: little bit disintegrated there for their offense. Meanwhile, for Carolina,

1101
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 2: the Chuba Hubber Rika Dudel Duel, their tandem's been fantastic.

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00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 2: Mcmillon's on the injury report today. He's got foot and

1103
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 2: ankle things that are slowing him down. He's over unders

1104
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 2: at fifty six for the day. Jalen Cocher are going

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00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:24,840
Speaker 2: to be called on a little bit. But for Baker

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Speaker 2: Mayfield over the last several names here, five point seven

1107
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 2: yards per attempt. He's down in in Aaron Rodgers territory

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00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:33,360
Speaker 2: these last few games.

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Speaker 4: It's been a struggle. You know, the way I think

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Speaker 4: about this game, we know what Todd balls is. We

1111
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 4: know he's an aggressive guy, and they have not been

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Speaker 4: able to rush the quarterback particularly well with their down four,

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00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:49,799
Speaker 4: and of course they signed JPP. I don't know if

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00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 4: he might.

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Speaker 3: Be he's going to be active today, yep.

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00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:55,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I mean you got guys back. Yeah, that

1117
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:57,400
Speaker 4: tells you that they know they've not been able to

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00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:00,840
Speaker 4: rush with their down four. But Todd bow has always

1119
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 4: been a big blitzer. That's something he's always believed in.

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Speaker 4: The Bucks are always among the highest percentage blitz teams

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00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 4: in the NFL. They use defensive backs, particularly Winfield and

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00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:14,359
Speaker 4: the rookie slot corner Parish As they're kind of their

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00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 4: known blitzers from the back end. But he's not going

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00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 4: to go down today playing soft. He's going to attack.

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Speaker 4: That's just his mentality. So I think you can expect

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Speaker 4: that defense to be very aggressive. And Bryce Young has

1127
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 4: made plays with his legs this year, and he's converted

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00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:33,359
Speaker 4: some third downs in recent weeks using his legs. So

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Speaker 4: I'm looking forward to see how that plays out.

1130
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 2: A little bit of a Dave can Allis appreciation moment

1131
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:42,279
Speaker 2: here as we sit here to Bryce Young, a guy

1132
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 2: many were ready to throw on the scrap heap of history.

1133
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 2: Instead you're looking at a guy who's already eclipsed last

1134
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 2: year's yardage total. He's at nineteen to nine in terms

1135
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:57,240
Speaker 2: of touchdown to interception ratio and completing nearly three percent

1136
00:53:57,400 --> 00:53:57,879
Speaker 2: more of.

1137
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 3: His pass attempts. Yeah, get those young receivers involved.

1138
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Speaker 4: No, And you know what, because he's not just in

1139
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 4: terms of physical traits as far as the NFL quarterback position,

1140
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 4: he's certainly in the more towards the bottom of the

1141
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 4: half than the upper half. But he's very intelligent, great

1142
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:17,439
Speaker 4: work ethic, and obviously you need team with him. He's

1143
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:19,400
Speaker 4: not the guy that's going to do it by himself,

1144
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:22,719
Speaker 4: but he sort of settled into being, you know, a

1145
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 4: nice complimentary piece of a team that's playing pretty well.

1146
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 4: Their O line, though, is a little bit of an

1147
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:29,759
Speaker 4: issue in pass pro, and that's why I think you're

1148
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 4: going to see a pretty high percentage blitztay for Todd

1149
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 4: Bowles and that Bucks defense.

1150
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 2: Can't wait to watch that one. We'll see that a

1151
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:40,359
Speaker 2: little bit later again. Three point favorites are the Buccaneers

1152
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 2: on the road, still trying to rest that NFC South

1153
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:46,920
Speaker 2: title as we continue a couple more big games, including

1154
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 2: one in the AFC that, Oh, you might not have

1155
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 2: seen him coming when this seasons started. You didn't circle

1156
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:54,719
Speaker 2: that for Week sixteen saying that's much must watch TV.

1157
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:59,239
Speaker 2: I would say, oh, contreermar Montfrere will do that. As

1158
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:02,239
Speaker 2: we continue. It's Fox Football Sunday, Fox Sports Radio. He's

1159
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 2: Greg Cosell at Greg Cosell NFL Films. The NFL Matchup Show,

1160
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:08,880
Speaker 2: and of course he joins Colin Cowhardt one o'clock Eastern

1161
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:12,040
Speaker 2: Time every Thursday to break down what Colin calls the

1162
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 2: best fifteen minutes he does every week.

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Speaker 3: There you go.

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Speaker 2: I put that above the above the fold for you,

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00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 2: Greg Cosell. I'm Mike Carmen at Swallendome. You hear me

1166
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 2: weeknights seven to eleven Pacific alongside Jason Smith and the

1167
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 2: iwatcher Flex Podcast with Dan bayer Ian Roddy, our executive producer.

1168
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 2: We go you through seventy five eighty players each week,

1169
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 2: telling you the good, the bad, the ugly of your

1170
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:36,839
Speaker 2: fantasy team. And then after the week's over, I'll come

1171
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:39,920
Speaker 2: back and tell you exactly how poorly I fared, because

1172
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:42,839
Speaker 2: then you can blame me. That's how it works. It's

1173
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Speaker 2: Fox Football Sunday, Fox Sports Radio. Yes, Jaguars football. We're

1174
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 2: talking about it next year on Fox.

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Speaker 7: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

1176
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:55,360
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Speaker 7: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to

1178
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:00,400
Speaker 7: listen live.

1179
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:04,280
Speaker 2: We welcome back in It's Fox Football Sunday, Fox Sports Radio,

1180
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:07,759
Speaker 2: Week sixteen edition. Mike Arnan greg co seal with you

1181
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 2: having a blast. A couple of minutes, we'll hear from

1182
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 2: Martin Wise. He's over at the news desk with some

1183
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:16,400
Speaker 2: early ins and outs and game time decisions, scoring recap.

1184
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:18,879
Speaker 2: Maybe I'll replay a lot of that Bears glory from

1185
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:19,399
Speaker 2: last night.

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00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:19,959
Speaker 4: Maybe you won't.

1187
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:20,319
Speaker 7: I don't know.

1188
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:20,800
Speaker 3: We'll see.

1189
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 2: But as we continue here on the show, we have

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Speaker 2: a huge matchup in the AFC.

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Speaker 4: Greg.

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Speaker 2: When we look at the Jacksonville Jaguars resplendent, Yes, coming

1193
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 2: off of an absolute beatdown of the New York Football

1194
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:39,560
Speaker 2: Jets going up against the Denver Broncos later on today,

1195
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:43,879
Speaker 2: folks expected better if Denver couldn't have expected the way

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00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 2: this season has rolled along, Denver a three and a

1197
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Speaker 2: half point favorite at home. As we get ready for

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Speaker 2: this one, Lawrence. Over the last four weeks, averaging nearly

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Speaker 2: eight point nine yards per attempt, we've seen ETN become

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00:56:56,800 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 2: a bigger, more explosive part of the passing game. Jacoby

1201
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 2: Myers has been so good for them. They already gave

1202
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 2: him a concert an outstansion concerts and I got concert

1203
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 2: on my brain.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they've been great in the red zone. By the

1205
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:11,759
Speaker 4: way really good in the red zone. But uh, you know,

1206
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Speaker 4: I really looked at Lawrence hard this week just because

1207
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:17,160
Speaker 4: you know, who would have expected this where they are

1208
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 4: right now in this season. And you know, this is

1209
00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 4: where coaching is such a big deal in this league, Mike,

1210
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 4: And you know, I know a lot of people might

1211
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 4: not think that way, but you know, they do such

1212
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 4: a great job with pre snap movement, with formations, with

1213
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 4: route concepts, and they present it so cleanly for Lawrence

1214
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:37,520
Speaker 4: because with a quarterback, what you really want to have

1215
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 4: happened is for him to hit that back foot and

1216
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 4: feel like he knows exactly where to go with the football,

1217
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 4: which is hard to do obviously, you know, defenses and

1218
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 4: there was a great thing with Kirk Cousins this week.

1219
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:50,920
Speaker 4: You probably saw it. I'm sure a lot of people

1220
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:55,000
Speaker 4: did as well, talking about progression, pure progression versus sort

1221
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 4: of the old way of doing it with coverage. But

1222
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 4: you know, with a quarterback, you're trying to get him

1223
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:03,440
Speaker 4: to know exactly where to go with the football when

1224
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:07,040
Speaker 4: he hits that back foot, you know. But their use

1225
00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 4: of motion has been phenomenal. They've got the fourth highest

1226
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Speaker 4: percentage deployment of pre snap movement of any team in

1227
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Speaker 4: the NFL. They deploy it strategically. They dictated impact defensive reactions.

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Speaker 4: And Lawrence just looks so poised and calm now, and

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Speaker 4: he hasn't always looked like that. Quite frankly, I always

1230
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 4: thought he struggled a bit with what he saw. You know,

1231
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 4: he works outside the number as well. This past week

1232
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Speaker 4: he worked between the numbers really well. It's almost as

1233
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 4: if you see a quarterback kind of growing with each

1234
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:40,240
Speaker 4: week under a really good offensive coach.

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Speaker 2: Liam Cohen getting some run. Obviously, he was mocked early

1236
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:48,120
Speaker 2: on for the duval thing in his press conference, and

1237
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:49,880
Speaker 2: it seems like a lot of these guys that have

1238
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 2: gone on to great success give us some really odd

1239
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 2: ball kind of things. I mean, we had a good

1240
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:57,520
Speaker 2: run with Mike McDaniel. We talked about him a lot.

1241
00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 2: We go back to Dan Campbell and wanting to buy kneecaps,

1242
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 2: and now you got Liam dohin with the surging Jaguars.

1243
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:06,920
Speaker 3: So the pre.

1244
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 2: Snat motion, I'm just trying to figure out how we

1245
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 2: solve the Denver defense of what that?

1246
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's you're dealing with the best third down

1247
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:18,840
Speaker 4: defense in the league. The team with the most sacks

1248
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:22,960
Speaker 4: in the league. They are really really good. There's obviously

1249
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:27,480
Speaker 4: questions on the O line for for the Jaguars. The

1250
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:30,800
Speaker 4: left tackle he's played well. The backup left tackle, I

1251
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 4: think Van Lennon has played well. But you know, obviously

1252
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:36,920
Speaker 4: you're going to get a great test today. He'll be

1253
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:41,520
Speaker 4: working mostly against Benito. This is a really really good defense.

1254
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 4: So in advance, Joseph I think does such a great

1255
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:48,640
Speaker 4: job with kind of muddying the waters as to whether

1256
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 4: it's man or zone. I think he does such a

1257
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 4: good job with that. So look, this is a tough matchup.

1258
00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 4: You know, they could continue to play well or it

1259
00:59:57,080 --> 00:59:58,920
Speaker 4: could be one of those days where the defense is

1260
00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:02,000
Speaker 4: better than the Jaguars. You just don't know. That's why

1261
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:06,200
Speaker 4: we play him. But obviously the offense for the Broncos

1262
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 4: has played well. Bo Nix is you know, he just

1263
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:12,160
Speaker 4: looks very, very comfortable right now, and he makes a

1264
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:15,000
Speaker 4: lot of good throws. He's got he's got a much

1265
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:17,360
Speaker 4: bigger arm, and I think people think that he has

1266
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Speaker 4: because he makes armstrength throws.

1267
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny, and I remember that being part of

1268
01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:25,680
Speaker 2: the analysis as we started doing the draft process of

1269
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 2: questioning the armshedd thing. I watched a lot of him play.

1270
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:32,560
Speaker 2: I think it was there and certainly, I mean you

1271
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:35,840
Speaker 2: talk about down distance in game circumstance. A lot of

1272
01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:38,240
Speaker 2: games where he didn't have to exactly start ringing it

1273
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 2: all over the field, right, So.

1274
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Speaker 4: Yeah, every game is different.

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Speaker 3: You know.

1276
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Speaker 4: Arm strength is one of those things that you know,

1277
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Speaker 4: a lot of people say that, oh it doesn't matter,

1278
01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:48,000
Speaker 4: and by the way, there could be games where it

1279
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:50,360
Speaker 4: doesn't matter, and then there are games where it does matter.

1280
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Speaker 4: You know, it's it's just in the games that it

1281
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:56,560
Speaker 4: does matter if you don't have. What I always talk about,

1282
01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:58,480
Speaker 4: and I showed this to my guys on the Matchup

1283
01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:01,240
Speaker 4: Show because you know I'm sitting here tape all day long,

1284
01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:06,640
Speaker 4: is it's what quarterbacks see as viable throws. Mike, you

1285
01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:08,760
Speaker 4: know I can show you plays if you were sitting

1286
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:11,040
Speaker 4: with me, I could say, hey, that throw needs to

1287
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Speaker 4: be made, and then it's not made. And again, I

1288
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:15,880
Speaker 4: don't know what's in the quarterback's head. I never presume

1289
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Speaker 4: to know that, but it's what quarterbacks view as viable throws.

1290
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Speaker 4: And like a Sam Darnold, for instance, he has a

1291
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Speaker 4: very big arm and he's going to make those difficult throws.

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Speaker 4: He sees them as viable throws to make. Now, once

1293
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:32,680
Speaker 4: in a while I might have get intercepted, sure, But

1294
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Speaker 4: the point is is there's a lot of quarterbacks that

1295
01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:37,720
Speaker 4: don't see throws that need to be made. This is

1296
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:40,479
Speaker 4: the NFL now, that need to be made, and they're

1297
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Speaker 4: not going to turn it loose. They just don't process

1298
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Speaker 4: it as viable throws.

1299
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Speaker 2: To drive it in. As we talked about Caleb Williams

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Speaker 2: a little bit earlier. Go back to that oh last

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Speaker 2: last week, right, I mean, yeah, that's the problem with

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Speaker 2: that well where he did the role to the right

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Speaker 2: and people started putting this graphic with Joe Montana and

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Speaker 2: the catch of Dwight Clark going, look, it's almost the

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Speaker 2: same except it was from thirty yards.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Well, this is an offense in Denver where they throw

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Speaker 4: it a lot, but it's very ball control ish at times.

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Speaker 4: Because Nicks has the fourth most first down dropbacks of

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Speaker 4: any quarterback in the NFL, but yet he's only fourteenth

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Speaker 4: in the league in first down passing yards, So they

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Speaker 4: use the pass game on first down more as a

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Speaker 4: sustaining element than a big play element. Now, having said that,

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Speaker 4: I don't want people to think, well, they never get

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Speaker 4: a big play on first down, but over the course

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Speaker 4: of now we have a large sample size. That's how

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Speaker 4: they use it for the most part, as more of

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Speaker 4: a sustaining element.

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Speaker 6: R J.

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Speaker 2: Harvey also riding a three game scoring streak as we

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Speaker 2: get into this one. Etn five touchdowns the last two games,

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Speaker 2: all three of his receptions last week for touchdowns. To

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Speaker 2: help you advance in your fantasy leagues as we roll

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Speaker 2: forward here Fox Football Sunday, Fox Sports Radio. I also

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Speaker 2: heard an invite to come watch tape with you. I'll

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Speaker 2: bring a book in acceleration, cupcake or five.

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Speaker 4: But maybe you could bring two or three, you know, Yeah, no,

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Speaker 4: you got as it's a long it's a long day.

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Speaker 4: You know, you got to make sure you're you're up

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Speaker 4: for the test.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no question about it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, big notebook, clean notebook, and celebration cupcakes. Also looking

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Speaker 2: for a celebration cupcake. Our guy Martin Wise, he's over

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Speaker 2: at the news desk. He's got everything going on here

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Speaker 2: as we get ready for week sixteen in Arnest.

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Speaker 3: What's going on.

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Speaker 12: Martin quinn Ewers mom and dad opening celebration cupcakes themselves

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Speaker 12: is their son ready to make his first NFL start

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Speaker 12: today against the Cincinnati Bengals. Viewers has played this season,

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Speaker 12: but this will be his first start. Tua Tongue Bioa

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Speaker 12: expected to be the third string quarterback today. The emergency

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Speaker 12: guy Why receiver t Higgins for Cincinnati expected to play

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Speaker 12: today he's dealing with concussion.

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Speaker 5: Safety Kyle Hamilton for the Baltimore.

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Speaker 12: Ravens will work out against will work out ahead of

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Speaker 12: the game against the Patriots. In the NFL Network reporting

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Speaker 12: Hamilton more likely to play than not. Why was he

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Speaker 12: Everrmarin Harrison Junior for the Arizona Cardinals expected to play

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Speaker 12: today Sunday against the Alkins. Nick Chubb expected to play

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Speaker 12: against the Raiders. Tyrod Taylor active but scheduled to back

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Speaker 12: up rookie Brady Cook today against the Saints. Last night,

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Speaker 12: the Paars beat the Packers in overtime twenty two to

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Speaker 12: sixteen goal bears. The Packers quarterback Jordan Love in concussion protocol.

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Speaker 12: He missed the end of the game after Montoie Monttes

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Speaker 12: Sweat sacked him on a rough in the passer penalty.

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Speaker 12: The Eagles will be back to back NFC champs, beating

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Speaker 12: the Commanders twenty nine to eighteen. They trailed late in

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Speaker 12: the third quarter ten to seven before Marcus Mariota got

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Speaker 12: knocked out of the game. He was evaluated for concussion

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Speaker 12: and injured his right hand.

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Speaker 5: The Rams fired special.

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Speaker 12: Team coordinator Chased Blackburn after Rashid Shaheed impacted the.

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Speaker 5: Way they lost that game. Pretty big on special teams.

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Speaker 12: On Thursday night, in college football, the quarterfinal except for

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Speaker 12: the playoffs the New Year's Eve, you'll see number two

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Speaker 12: Ohio State in tenth rank, that Miami play in the

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Speaker 12: Cotton Bowl at seven thirty. And on January first, she

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Speaker 12: it's a Texas Tech at fifth, Oregon playing the Orange

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Speaker 12: Bowl at noon they once seed Indiana, and I see Alabama.

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Speaker 5: Playing in the Rolls Bull four o'clock.

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Speaker 12: Through rank Georgia and sixth old mess playing in the

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Speaker 12: Sugar Bowl at eight pm, and an upset.

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Speaker 5: In college basketball last.

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Speaker 12: Night is nineteenth right Texas Tech be third ranked Duke

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Speaker 12: eighty two to eighty one.

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Speaker 2: Back to you, guys, fantastic stuff full date ahead for

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Speaker 2: us here as we get things rolling at Martin Weiss

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Speaker 2: where you find him. Check out all his latest videos

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Speaker 2: Saturday is on Fox Sports Radio in the evenings as well.

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Speaker 3: It's gift giving season.

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Speaker 2: over at Swollen Dome.

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Speaker 3: Let's get another game in here. A couple of young quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: Getting after and a guy on the come that I'm

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Speaker 2: curious of your reaction to his last performance.

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Speaker 7: McCarthy play action to Jordan Mason, rolls up to the left,

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Speaker 7: proach to the m zone and touchdown.

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Speaker 4: J J. McCarthy found single coverage and he made the

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Speaker 4: Dallas Cowboys pay.

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Speaker 2: Here you go the Minnesota call. The last two games

1405
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Speaker 2: sixty five points, five touchdowns, one pick for JJ McCarthy.

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01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:51,640
Speaker 2: Are we seeing the improvement we were hoping to with

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Speaker 2: a couple more starts.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And again, all I have now is what he

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Speaker 4: did against the Cowboys. I'm not going to sit here

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Speaker 4: and say this is going to happen this week or

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Speaker 4: next week. We hope it does. But I watched that

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Speaker 4: tape and I would say he looked more comfortable with

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Speaker 4: his reads and his throws versus the Cowboys. It looked

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Speaker 4: like in that game that things slowed down for him

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Speaker 4: and he was playing a little more decisively from the pocket.

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Speaker 4: I would say that one area he must improve is

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Speaker 4: a more consistent precision with his ball placement. At times

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01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:23,400
Speaker 4: it's placed perfectly, other times he misses routine throws. But

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Speaker 4: I thought that this past week against the Cowboys, he

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Speaker 4: just seemed so much more decisive. And he does make

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Speaker 4: some big time throws. And don't forget that he's a

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Speaker 4: good athlete. His legs are a factor in the Vikings

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Speaker 4: pass game, both with designed boot action and his scrambling ability.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's starting to make some big plays again. Fantasy

1425
01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:48,280
Speaker 2: owners still saying where's JJ, Yes, Justin Jefferson. Still he

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01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:51,360
Speaker 2: was seventy third last week amongst fantasy receivers. Not that

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Speaker 2: you care, but it didn't help my fantasy team. There,

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Speaker 2: Greg my prognostication because I thought against the Dallas defense

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Speaker 2: might be getting him right. Everybody else got fed Naylor

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Speaker 2: a couple of times. Now, let's go to the other

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Speaker 2: side of the equation. When we talk about Jackson Dart.

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Speaker 2: We've talked about his ability to escape the pocket. What

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Speaker 2: he's got four hundred rushing yards on the year, seven

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Speaker 2: touchdowns and seven trips to the blue tent. Yeah, sixty

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Speaker 2: three percent completion rate, thirteen touchdowns against four picks. So

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Speaker 2: it's been efficient when he's on the field.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. And he's another guy that's shown flashes where you

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01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:27,880
Speaker 4: look at him and you go, wow, I think this

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01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:30,240
Speaker 4: guy could be a really good player. And other times

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Speaker 4: he drops back and I can tell immediately that he

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Speaker 4: just doesn't have a sense of exactly what he's seeing,

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Speaker 4: and that takes time. I mean, we've talked over these

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Speaker 4: this whole season, really about how defenses have really changed

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Speaker 4: and what's become now so foundational for so many defenses

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01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:49,439
Speaker 4: is changing the picture pre snap to post snap. And

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Speaker 4: that's not something that you see very much in college football,

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Speaker 4: so that can take time. Some guys innately can see it.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's just one of those things. You know,

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Speaker 4: we've probably talked about this where you think about guys

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Speaker 4: in other sports, like playing point guard. Some guys can

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01:09:03,120 --> 01:09:06,479
Speaker 4: see the court. Other guys just can't. You know, hockey,

1452
01:09:06,760 --> 01:09:09,280
Speaker 4: not everybody would see the ice the way Wayne Gretzky did.

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Speaker 4: You could talk about it till you're blue in the face.

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Speaker 4: They're not going to see it that way. So Jackson Dart,

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Speaker 4: you know, we don't know where he's going to end

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01:09:16,200 --> 01:09:18,800
Speaker 4: up in that regard Mike, but I think right now

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Speaker 4: there are times it looks right and there's other times

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Speaker 4: I can tell immediately he's just not seeing it the

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Speaker 4: right way, and I think that's one reason he runs

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Speaker 4: so much.

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Speaker 2: A couple more games to get you on the slate.

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Speaker 2: We'll save Monday night in my celebration of Philip Rivers

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Speaker 2: for last as well as the other veteran you've already mentioned,

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Speaker 2: and Kirk Cousins will save those two games. But let's

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Speaker 2: go to a couple of rookies real quick, because we've

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Speaker 2: got Brady Cook going for the Jets and on the

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Speaker 2: other side, Tyler Shuck. It's the weekly Tyler Shuck moment

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Speaker 2: of appreciation of a guy that I'm curious to see

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Speaker 2: whether he actually gets the opportunity to be their guy

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Speaker 2: longer term or if this is a one year with

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Speaker 2: an ip towards the draft.

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Speaker 4: You know, I like Tyler Shuck. And again, he's obviously

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01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:09,519
Speaker 4: they're not a great team, and he's done a nice job.

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Speaker 4: There's been ups and downs, uneven play, just like there

1475
01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:15,360
Speaker 4: is with any rookie quarterback. Sure, but he's a big kid.

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Speaker 4: He throws it well, he moves well. It would not

1477
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Speaker 4: surprise me if they go another year. Again, there's three

1478
01:10:24,280 --> 01:10:26,920
Speaker 4: games to go, so we don't know what's going to happen.

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Speaker 4: But let's assume there's a kind of normal trajectory. You know,

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01:10:30,520 --> 01:10:33,960
Speaker 4: there'll be some uneven play, there'll be some positive play.

1481
01:10:34,200 --> 01:10:36,040
Speaker 4: If he continues the way he's played the last couple

1482
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Speaker 4: of weeks. It would not surprise me if they give

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Speaker 4: him a full year as the starting quarterback and then

1484
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Speaker 4: see where they stand.

1485
01:10:42,600 --> 01:10:44,960
Speaker 2: Another thing you wouldn't have on the Bengo Card the

1486
01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:49,160
Speaker 2: Saints nearly a touchdown favorite over any team in week

1487
01:10:49,240 --> 01:10:52,800
Speaker 2: sixteen of the Action foot telling you where they are,

1488
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Speaker 2: although recent reports have Aaron Glenn returning for a second year.

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Speaker 2: Forty and a half is the total in this one.

1490
01:11:00,600 --> 01:11:02,719
Speaker 2: You can get into that one for about twelve bucks

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Speaker 2: if you're in the area.

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Speaker 3: He's great co sell on Mike Carbon It's Fox Football

1493
01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:09,599
Speaker 3: Sunday at Fox Sports Radio. A couple of games left,

1494
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Speaker 3: including Well Martin gave you the update, Marvin Harrison Junior

1495
01:11:13,200 --> 01:11:14,840
Speaker 3: is going to try to go. What does it mean

1496
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Speaker 3: for Michael Wilson and your fantasy team.

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Speaker 2: We'll tell you next Here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: And if you have a review of celebration cupcakes or

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Speaker 2: do you just want to talk about them, I'm there

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Speaker 2: for you as well.

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Speaker 3: As we get ready to get into a big week.

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01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:19,599
Speaker 2: Sixteen National Football League season really has passed so quickly.

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01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:21,440
Speaker 3: Greg the blink.

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01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:23,200
Speaker 4: And here we are crazy.

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01:12:23,479 --> 01:12:26,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just the ebb and blow of this season

1520
01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:29,080
Speaker 2: has been insane. I mentioned it in the first hour

1521
01:12:29,080 --> 01:12:32,160
Speaker 2: of the fact that we're already at fifty three different

1522
01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:35,360
Speaker 2: starters over the course of the year. That number will

1523
01:12:35,400 --> 01:12:38,840
Speaker 2: surely be augmented before we're done with all of this.

1524
01:12:39,320 --> 01:12:41,599
Speaker 2: Obviously hoping the best for Jordan Love that he can

1525
01:12:41,760 --> 01:12:43,280
Speaker 2: get back out on the field.

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01:12:43,640 --> 01:12:46,200
Speaker 3: Next week after that hit he took yesterday.

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01:12:46,720 --> 01:12:49,479
Speaker 2: Got chippy there in Chicago, and a lot of a

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01:12:49,479 --> 01:12:52,519
Speaker 2: lot of hand ringing is like, all right, that's they

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01:12:52,640 --> 01:12:56,320
Speaker 2: played through the reverberation of the whistle. And then sometimes

1530
01:12:56,439 --> 01:12:58,960
Speaker 2: guys put their head down instead of getting down, and

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01:12:59,320 --> 01:13:03,120
Speaker 2: you know they don't play the blame blame game with it.

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01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:05,759
Speaker 3: But it's just say, hey, it's football.

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01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:09,920
Speaker 2: There's big bodies flying around and guys get hurt. But

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01:13:10,120 --> 01:13:13,479
Speaker 2: certainly that was a huge, huge knock, and Malik Willis

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01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:16,840
Speaker 2: acquitted himself pretty well in relief for a guy that

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01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:20,320
Speaker 2: hadn't seen the field much at all. But later on

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01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:22,960
Speaker 2: today we have a guy that started on the bench.

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01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:26,559
Speaker 2: And while he's back on the field for the Atlanta

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01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:29,240
Speaker 2: Falcons the last couple of weeks, Captain Kirk Cousins, remember

1540
01:13:29,320 --> 01:13:32,160
Speaker 2: he was deposed the end of last year, comes back

1541
01:13:32,720 --> 01:13:35,360
Speaker 2: slinging around. He and Kyle Pitts found each other three

1542
01:13:35,439 --> 01:13:37,479
Speaker 2: times big games.

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01:13:37,520 --> 01:13:38,600
Speaker 3: And you look at Pitts.

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01:13:38,360 --> 01:13:40,960
Speaker 2: Over the last three weeks, Greg, he's become a much

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01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:44,400
Speaker 2: bigger part of this offense for the Atlanta Falcons.

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01:13:44,960 --> 01:13:45,320
Speaker 3: What is it?

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01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:51,400
Speaker 2: And sixty six for twenty four receptions over the last

1548
01:13:51,400 --> 01:13:53,719
Speaker 2: three weeks. And we've talked a lot about John Robinson.

1549
01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:58,000
Speaker 2: Will actually get Drake London back against Arizona and their

1550
01:13:58,000 --> 01:14:01,439
Speaker 2: offense comes to play. But there's there's defense certainly leaves

1551
01:14:01,680 --> 01:14:02,599
Speaker 2: much to be desired.

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01:14:03,280 --> 01:14:05,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's another team even when London's healthy, that plays

1553
01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:08,719
Speaker 4: a lot out of twelve personnel, one back, two tight ends.

1554
01:14:09,320 --> 01:14:12,320
Speaker 4: Because Pitt's essentially is a wide receiver. He can line

1555
01:14:12,360 --> 01:14:15,120
Speaker 4: up in line, but they use him in a split

1556
01:14:15,160 --> 01:14:18,760
Speaker 4: way more often than not. He's very gifted guy.

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01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:19,200
Speaker 5: You know.

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01:14:19,240 --> 01:14:21,760
Speaker 4: Again, he hasn't had a great career, and I guess

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01:14:21,800 --> 01:14:24,000
Speaker 4: he's in a contract year or so that he is,

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01:14:24,439 --> 01:14:27,040
Speaker 4: so he's playing inspired football. Maybe that's the right word.

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01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:31,439
Speaker 2: He's photoshopped into a Chiefs uniform yet, No, I haven't

1562
01:14:32,040 --> 01:14:32,240
Speaker 2: if you.

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01:14:32,240 --> 01:14:35,960
Speaker 4: Want, but you know, Kirk Cousins and you know, we

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01:14:36,320 --> 01:14:39,000
Speaker 4: mentioned this earlier, and just to mention it again because

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01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:41,799
Speaker 4: it's so worth people's time to see him talk about

1566
01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:45,160
Speaker 4: playing the quarterback position as it's evolved, because he's lived

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01:14:45,200 --> 01:14:48,760
Speaker 4: through it, talking about pure progression reads versus versus the

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01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:51,360
Speaker 4: way it once was, where you basically picked a side

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01:14:51,400 --> 01:14:54,160
Speaker 4: based on whether we're single high or too high. He's

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01:14:54,200 --> 01:14:57,120
Speaker 4: so good talking about it. But in this last game,

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01:14:57,200 --> 01:15:01,120
Speaker 4: he was phenomenal on third down versus a difficult defense

1572
01:15:01,160 --> 01:15:03,960
Speaker 4: to play on third down, the Bucks because of their pressures.

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01:15:04,439 --> 01:15:07,519
Speaker 4: But he was very, very good, you know. And then

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01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:11,200
Speaker 4: you have v Jean Robinson, who you know, I researched

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01:15:11,240 --> 01:15:12,960
Speaker 4: him a bit this week, as I was very curious

1576
01:15:12,960 --> 01:15:16,240
Speaker 4: because he's detached from the formation quite a bit, so

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01:15:16,320 --> 01:15:18,840
Speaker 4: I was curious how often that is. Do you know

1578
01:15:18,960 --> 01:15:23,840
Speaker 4: that twenty percent of his of his snaps this year

1579
01:15:23,880 --> 01:15:28,080
Speaker 4: he's been detached from the formation. That's that's pretty remarkable.

1580
01:15:28,439 --> 01:15:31,760
Speaker 4: I mean that's he's almost a wide receiver basically, you know,

1581
01:15:32,080 --> 01:15:35,000
Speaker 4: And and of course as a back as a runner,

1582
01:15:35,400 --> 01:15:37,920
Speaker 4: no team runs a higher percentage of outside zone than

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01:15:37,960 --> 01:15:40,559
Speaker 4: the Falcons, that's what they do. And he runs out

1584
01:15:40,600 --> 01:15:43,880
Speaker 4: of the pistol formation predominantly, So they're a team that

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01:15:44,080 --> 01:15:48,120
Speaker 4: does certain things really really well. And Cousins, he's just

1586
01:15:48,200 --> 01:15:50,840
Speaker 4: a professional quarterback, Mike O and a guy that.

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01:15:51,400 --> 01:15:54,680
Speaker 2: Is probably playing himself either into staying that guy as

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01:15:54,720 --> 01:15:57,960
Speaker 2: Pennix has his rehab because there's still a lot of

1589
01:15:57,960 --> 01:15:59,719
Speaker 2: money on the books that would have to be figured

1590
01:15:59,720 --> 01:16:02,559
Speaker 2: out otherwise, still two years left on that deal that

1591
01:16:02,640 --> 01:16:06,360
Speaker 2: he signed, or he'll he'll be quarterbacking for someone else,

1592
01:16:06,880 --> 01:16:10,040
Speaker 2: showing the live arm and maybe just a little bit

1593
01:16:10,040 --> 01:16:12,479
Speaker 2: of extra time was needed recovering from the injury.

1594
01:16:12,560 --> 01:16:16,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, he sustained, right, especially that it's especially it's given

1595
01:16:16,120 --> 01:16:18,639
Speaker 4: that it's not going to be a great quarterback class

1596
01:16:18,680 --> 01:16:21,559
Speaker 4: in the draft from everything we've seen up to this point.

1597
01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:24,639
Speaker 4: So someone like Cousins, you can certainly sign him. They

1598
01:16:24,680 --> 01:16:26,360
Speaker 4: have to know what he is. You got to protect him.

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01:16:26,400 --> 01:16:26,639
Speaker 3: Sure.

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01:16:26,640 --> 01:16:29,639
Speaker 4: I mean, obviously you can't sign him and then figure out, well,

1601
01:16:29,640 --> 01:16:32,960
Speaker 4: the offensive line is not very good, because obviously that

1602
01:16:32,960 --> 01:16:36,639
Speaker 4: would be a problem. But he's he's a very professional

1603
01:16:36,760 --> 01:16:39,479
Speaker 4: quarterback and you can line up and play with Kirk Cousins.

1604
01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:42,519
Speaker 2: One heck of a run for a guy that drafted

1605
01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:45,280
Speaker 2: as the second guy all the way back into yes

1606
01:16:45,320 --> 01:16:49,479
Speaker 2: twelve when Washington doubled down, well, just like Atlanta did

1607
01:16:49,479 --> 01:16:52,200
Speaker 2: when they signed him and then drafted Michael Pennix.

1608
01:16:52,360 --> 01:16:52,840
Speaker 3: It's funny.

1609
01:16:52,920 --> 01:16:57,040
Speaker 4: That's exactly right. That's exactly right. So he and I'm

1610
01:16:57,080 --> 01:16:59,880
Speaker 4: sure that you probably had David Sills on your fantasy team.

1611
01:16:59,760 --> 01:17:01,360
Speaker 3: Didn't, Oh, no question about it.

1612
01:17:01,560 --> 01:17:04,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, you knew that when I cursed to.

1613
01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:06,280
Speaker 2: The until I was blue in the face when he dropped,

1614
01:17:06,320 --> 01:17:08,479
Speaker 2: that would be forty six yard touchdown.

1615
01:17:08,479 --> 01:17:10,800
Speaker 4: Pa. Oh, I know, that would have been a walking touchdown.

1616
01:17:10,920 --> 01:17:11,240
Speaker 4: I know.

1617
01:17:11,479 --> 01:17:12,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's one.

1618
01:17:12,920 --> 01:17:15,680
Speaker 2: As the announcers like to say, Greg, he'd like to

1619
01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:16,920
Speaker 2: have that one back.

1620
01:17:17,680 --> 01:17:20,320
Speaker 4: Uh, Yeah, I loved I love that. Yeah, I love

1621
01:17:20,360 --> 01:17:21,400
Speaker 4: that you like that.

1622
01:17:21,800 --> 01:17:24,640
Speaker 3: What else we got? We got our generational.

1623
01:17:24,600 --> 01:17:26,880
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, that's another one of my favorite.

1624
01:17:26,520 --> 01:17:31,200
Speaker 2: The code words of how do we get the red

1625
01:17:31,280 --> 01:17:32,719
Speaker 2: siren around Greg Kosell.

1626
01:17:33,680 --> 01:17:34,760
Speaker 4: He's got he's got it.

1627
01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:38,639
Speaker 2: He's a winner. Yeah, he is a winner. Speak of winners.

1628
01:17:38,800 --> 01:17:41,760
Speaker 2: Jacoby Brissett is a curious case for me as well. Right,

1629
01:17:41,840 --> 01:17:44,679
Speaker 2: so it's presumed Kyler Murray has played his last snap

1630
01:17:44,720 --> 01:17:47,559
Speaker 2: as a member of the Air Cardinals. For Jacoby Brissett

1631
01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:50,639
Speaker 2: multiple touchdowns eight of his last nine games. He gets

1632
01:17:50,720 --> 01:17:54,000
Speaker 2: Marvin Harrison junior back. I mentioned Michael Wilson, who's been great,

1633
01:17:54,040 --> 01:17:57,120
Speaker 2: Michael Carter the next man up in what has been

1634
01:17:57,160 --> 01:18:01,200
Speaker 2: a never ending revolving door of running backs on the

1635
01:18:01,200 --> 01:18:04,120
Speaker 2: course of the season. But just a curiosity of what

1636
01:18:04,160 --> 01:18:07,040
Speaker 2: you've seen from Brissette, of whether he's a guy that

1637
01:18:07,479 --> 01:18:09,240
Speaker 2: you look at and again and owing to what the

1638
01:18:09,320 --> 01:18:11,840
Speaker 2: quarterback class may be, not saying you don't take one,

1639
01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:15,599
Speaker 2: but that right, he becomes a placeholder perhaps for a year.

1640
01:18:15,680 --> 01:18:19,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, and he's played enough that people know that you're

1641
01:18:19,240 --> 01:18:22,599
Speaker 4: not necessarily signing him to be your seventeen game starter,

1642
01:18:22,760 --> 01:18:24,920
Speaker 4: because he's been in the league long enough. But you

1643
01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:27,120
Speaker 4: can line up and play with him. He knows how

1644
01:18:27,120 --> 01:18:29,840
Speaker 4: to play. He's got some flaws in his game that

1645
01:18:29,920 --> 01:18:32,760
Speaker 4: always crop up the more he plays. But he's an

1646
01:18:32,760 --> 01:18:35,519
Speaker 4: interesting guy. I mean, and from everything I gather, he's

1647
01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:37,680
Speaker 4: supposed to be just a great human being, someone you

1648
01:18:37,720 --> 01:18:41,080
Speaker 4: want on your team. And he's played well. Look, this

1649
01:18:41,240 --> 01:18:44,639
Speaker 4: is not a great team. They've missed a lot of players. Obviously,

1650
01:18:44,680 --> 01:18:48,599
Speaker 4: they lost James Connor, Marvin Harrison's missed games. You mentioned

1651
01:18:48,640 --> 01:18:52,000
Speaker 4: Michael Wilson. He's always been a favorite of mine ever

1652
01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:55,000
Speaker 4: since he came out of Stanford. He's big, he's physical,

1653
01:18:55,120 --> 01:18:57,360
Speaker 4: he knows how to run routes. The kind of guy

1654
01:18:57,520 --> 01:18:59,400
Speaker 4: that I always thought if he was on a really

1655
01:18:59,479 --> 01:19:03,120
Speaker 4: good PA team. You know that he catched eighty balls,

1656
01:19:03,360 --> 01:19:05,599
Speaker 4: you know, for eleven hundred yards, and we never say

1657
01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:07,719
Speaker 4: he's like a big time number one, but he would

1658
01:19:07,760 --> 01:19:09,400
Speaker 4: just be a really good receiver.

1659
01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:12,160
Speaker 2: Good receiver. He's been great for fantasy owners. All right,

1660
01:19:12,240 --> 01:19:15,879
Speaker 2: let's get the last game. San Francisco Indianapolis. San Francisco

1661
01:19:15,920 --> 01:19:19,120
Speaker 2: is six point favorite on the road. Philip Rivers start

1662
01:19:19,200 --> 01:19:21,560
Speaker 2: number two is over under for passing yards all the

1663
01:19:21,600 --> 01:19:23,880
Speaker 2: way up to one hundred and fifty seven point five yards.

1664
01:19:24,400 --> 01:19:26,600
Speaker 4: Philip Rivers is exactly what we were talking about. He

1665
01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:29,160
Speaker 4: steps right in and you can tell he still sees

1666
01:19:29,200 --> 01:19:32,160
Speaker 4: it the right way and he's willing to make tough throws. Now,

1667
01:19:32,200 --> 01:19:34,320
Speaker 4: obviously he doesn't have a big arm, and the final

1668
01:19:34,360 --> 01:19:36,800
Speaker 4: interception he threw at the end of the game was

1669
01:19:36,840 --> 01:19:39,040
Speaker 4: the furthest ball. He threw air yards. He's not going

1670
01:19:39,120 --> 01:19:41,639
Speaker 4: to drive it down the field, but he knows how

1671
01:19:41,640 --> 01:19:44,400
Speaker 4: to play. And the Niners their offense. They'll be without

1672
01:19:44,439 --> 01:19:46,479
Speaker 4: Ricky Piersol, which is a shame because he came on

1673
01:19:46,640 --> 01:19:50,679
Speaker 4: last week, but their offense has been very good since

1674
01:19:50,680 --> 01:19:54,080
Speaker 4: Bertie's come back, and they do so much with motion.

1675
01:19:54,240 --> 01:19:55,760
Speaker 4: I love watching what they do with motion.

1676
01:19:55,960 --> 01:19:59,240
Speaker 2: CMC four games scoring streak, only two hundred yard games.

1677
01:19:59,280 --> 01:20:01,719
Speaker 2: What we talk about his total yortage well over sixteen

1678
01:20:01,760 --> 01:20:05,920
Speaker 2: hours for the year. But Philip almost had that win.

1679
01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:08,000
Speaker 2: We'll see if you can give it the old try

1680
01:20:08,800 --> 01:20:12,240
Speaker 2: at home on a Monday night. Greg, it's a fantastic

1681
01:20:12,280 --> 01:20:16,280
Speaker 2: two hours, so fast celebration cupcake for you. I'll go

1682
01:20:16,360 --> 01:20:19,760
Speaker 2: have one myself and we'll raise a glass. Happy hot

1683
01:20:19,800 --> 01:20:22,760
Speaker 2: final day of Honika to those who celebrate for the

1684
01:20:22,880 --> 01:20:26,080
Speaker 2: holiday week and enjoy your friends and family, take care

1685
01:20:26,120 --> 01:20:29,080
Speaker 2: of each other. Count Down to Kickoff presented by bat MGM.

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Speaker 2: Coming up next year on Fox Sports Radio