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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

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Speaker 2: Armstrong and Jetty and He Armstrong and Eddy.

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Speaker 3: That we've solved seven wars. Seven wars. Wars that were unsolvables,

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Speaker 3: that couldn't be negotiated or done, We've done. The US

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Speaker 3: has done seven of them. The one that I thought

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Speaker 3: would be easiest would be because of my relationship with

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Speaker 3: President Putin. But he's let me down. He's really let

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Speaker 3: me down. Who's going to be Russia and Ukraine. But

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Speaker 3: we'll see how that turns out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what's the next step on that? I'd love to know.

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Speaker 4: That's Donald Trump. He is standing right next to Kars Starmer,

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Speaker 4: the Prime Minister of Greek Britain right now and they're

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Speaker 4: doing a press conference as Trump is over in England.

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Speaker 4: And we thought we would talk to Jim tankers Lee

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Speaker 4: and welcome back to the Armstrong and Getty Show. He

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Speaker 4: knows a lot about what's going on with European politics.

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Speaker 4: He's the Berlin bureau chief for the New York Times.

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Speaker 4: Jim Tankersley, welcome back, are you hey?

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Speaker 5: My pleasure to be back. I'm doing great.

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Speaker 4: Any news out of Great Britainy you think is worth

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Speaker 4: talking about to start off with.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I think what we just heard the President

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Speaker 5: talking about is what he's been saying for a while.

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Speaker 5: He really did think that this conflict was going to

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Speaker 5: be a lot easier to broker a pc ALON. He

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Speaker 5: keeps expressing varying degrees of annoyance with Vladimir Putin for

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Speaker 5: not coming to the table and broken deal, but he's

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Speaker 5: also not you know, we didn't hear him say any

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Speaker 5: new big things that he's going to do to put

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Speaker 5: the pressure on. So I think what we're hearing from

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Speaker 5: from President Trump is what a lot of Europe has

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Speaker 5: been kind of hearing and a little bit wary about

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Speaker 5: for weeks and months now, which is kind of just

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Speaker 5: like status quo. We're just kind of hoping this is

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Speaker 5: going to get better and we're not sure how it's

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Speaker 4: Okay, well, that's really interesting. I want to ask you,

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Speaker 4: this is one of my favorite statements of the last

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Speaker 4: couple of months. Is that guy from Poland, Tusk, who said,

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Speaker 4: why do we need why do we the five hundred

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Speaker 4: million need, the three hundred and forty million of the

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Speaker 4: United States to protect us against one hundred and sixty million.

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Speaker 2: I love that, just.

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Speaker 4: As a point of view of why don't we take

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Speaker 4: care of this ourselves in Europe.

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Speaker 2: Do many people in Europe agree with his attitude?

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Speaker 5: Well, I mean, you know, it's really interesting. I came

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Speaker 5: a real flood of Europeans toward that test perspective for

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Speaker 5: lots of reasons, but this real idea like, hey, we

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Speaker 5: we need to be spending the money here to defend ourselves,

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Speaker 5: to make ourselves ready, just you know, to help Ukraine,

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Speaker 5: but to ward off possible attack from Russia. Something you

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Speaker 5: hear in Germany all the time now. The Germans are

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Speaker 5: massively increasing their ability, and it's because they are afraid

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Speaker 5: drawn into some sort of Yes, I mean, people don't

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Speaker 5: but the German German leaders I talk to are constantly

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Speaker 5: worried that that that Putin would not stop at Ukraine,

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Speaker 5: he might go into Poland, as we've seen Russia flying

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Speaker 4: Again, Well, that's really interesting. I mean, on one hand,

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Speaker 2: On the other hand, that would.

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Speaker 4: Be insane for Putin to take on Germany and NATO

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Speaker 5: It would be I mean, but I think that people

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Speaker 5: We think they're still our friends. And either way, we

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Speaker 4: Since Trump is in Great Britain about this, I was

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Speaker 4: listening to a podcast the other day with a writer

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Speaker 4: Britain is. They're like, you know, several years further down

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Speaker 2: Is it that bad?

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Speaker 4: And uh, can we look at our future ahead of

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Speaker 5: As as you know, I covered you cannot write and

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Speaker 5: about this. This is what economists call fiscal space. How

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Speaker 5: And and and Great Britain does have a coming fiscal

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Speaker 5: And we've been there's certainly been a lot of warnings

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Speaker 5: that's that comes at a time when when all three

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Speaker 5: we we should ramp back this amount of spending, particularly

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Speaker 5: most experts, I don't do you think are going to

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Speaker 4: Well, it's a damn interesting time for you to be

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Speaker 5: Well, the immigration situation is fascinating because the I mean,

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Speaker 5: And the new governments. There's plenty of new governments that

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Speaker 4: Before I let you go, I'm sure there's a German

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Speaker 4: Germans have good words for things. I'm sure German German

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Speaker 4: right now. Maybe it's just envy that you and your

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Speaker 4: you do this job. That's got to be freaking cool.

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Speaker 4: Is as cool as it sounds.

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Speaker 5: I mean, if I'm going to make it sound even

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Speaker 5: which is called Octoberfest. And uh and uh so, uh,

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Speaker 5: Wowfest for journalism.

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Speaker 4: For journalism. Yes, you're standing up for journalism. That's fantastic.

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Speaker 4: Good for you, man. Jim tankersly Berlin Bureau cheap for

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Speaker 4: the New York Times. Thanks for your time today.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, thanks for having me. It's always fun.

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Speaker 4: He's a really talented guy, so he's obviously earned it.

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Speaker 4: But man, he moved his whole family there and they've

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Speaker 4: How much of Jimmy Kimmel getting fired was the FCC

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Speaker 4: run Kimmel anymore because we're licensed broadcasters. Because we license

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Speaker 4: from the SCC. AnyWho, let's welcome to the Armstrong and

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Speaker 2: I'm fine?

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Speaker 1: And yeah, that's clearly a threat and it's unacceptable. Well

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Speaker 4: You cut out already as a bad start. Okay, try

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Speaker 2: Am I here?

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Speaker 4: That's Joe Getty, everybody one half of the Armstrong in

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Speaker 8: Were united in defense and security, yes, absolutely, but we're

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Speaker 4: the Armstrong Engetti Show. What is the task that Israel's

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Speaker 4: So however, many divisions, how how many people is that?

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Speaker 9: and then fire ni tank rockets and whatever straight down

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Speaker 9: against armored vehicles because the Finnis armor on a tank

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Speaker 9: or on armored personnel carriers in the roofs. So they're

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Speaker 9: taking all those buildings down advance as they move very slowly,

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Speaker 9: and in part that's to avoid Tasma.

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Speaker 4: Why did you say you're not optimistic about the mission

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Speaker 4: of wiping out Hamas.

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Speaker 9: Well, I've never been frank optimistic about them destroying Hamas

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Speaker 9: in the fullest sense, because Amas is an ideology, and

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Speaker 9: it's interesting to me that we now buy most acknowledgements.

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Speaker 9: Have seen over sixty thousand Palestinians killed in the guy

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Speaker 9: on the trip at the onset of this war in

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Speaker 9: October several years ago, he asked me by the Israelis.

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Speaker 9: Another was Hamas's total force was twenty five to thirty

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Speaker 9: thousand total fighters. So we've either killed you know, every

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Speaker 9: mass fighter twice, or we've also they've suffered a norms

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Speaker 9: amount of civilian casualis or recruited more cashalies. As time

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Speaker 9: has gone on. That's why it's tough to defeat a

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Speaker 9: group like this.

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Speaker 5: Number one.

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Speaker 9: Number two is an ideology. You might not see a

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Speaker 9: group called Hamas spring up in the aftermath, but you'll

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Speaker 9: have Hamas two point oh or Islamic Jihad two point

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Speaker 9: oh or some of the group that'll rise up in

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Speaker 9: the afternoon.

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Speaker 4: Well, we'll be keeping our eye on this one over

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Speaker 4: the next weeks or months, if it takes that long

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Speaker 4: as you predicted. I wanted to bring up Ukraine and Russia.

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Speaker 2: We just had on.

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Speaker 4: A guy named Jim Tankersley who's a writer for the

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Speaker 4: New York Times and he actually is the Berlin bureau chief.

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Speaker 4: He lives in Germany, and he said, you'd be surprised

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Speaker 4: how many German people are concerned about Russia invading Germany. Like,

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Speaker 4: you know, the Ukraine's not the end of it. That

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Speaker 4: Germany could be on the list too, and that's one

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Speaker 4: of the reasons there's political support for increasing their military

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Speaker 4: spending and all that sort of stuff.

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Speaker 2: That was surprising to me.

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Speaker 4: Does anybody think Putin would would do that sort of thing?

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Speaker 9: Well, you know, Lennon once said, if you are attacking somebody,

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Speaker 9: you ran in your Banett and if you hit something soft,

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Speaker 9: you keep pushing, and you keep pushing until you reach

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Speaker 9: something that is hard. And that is the school of

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Speaker 9: the logic that mister Putin went to as a young man,

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Speaker 9: so I think he subscribes to that you continue to

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Speaker 9: push until you have force coming in the opposite direction.

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Speaker 9: But the Germans, of course have history of all this,

486
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Speaker 9: dealing with the Russians in the past, and decisive battles

487
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Speaker 9: in World War One and World War Two. But they're

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Speaker 9: also I think, have to concern as are the polls

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Speaker 9: or the balls, etc. Who have real concerns about the Russians.

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Speaker 9: They're also our allies of the Germans.

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Speaker 4: That was surprising to me that that's an actual concern

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Speaker 4: of the German population. I'm happy that they're spending more

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Speaker 4: money on their military and all of Europe needs to

494
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Speaker 4: do that. How is that war going? If you can

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Speaker 4: give us a brief overview, Well, again, it's.

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Speaker 5: Not going well.

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Speaker 9: I mean, mister Trump hosted Vadimir Putin in Alaska and

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Speaker 9: said that we would have bilateral negotiations soon between Zelinski

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Speaker 9: and Putin, and we'd have trilater in discussions involving him

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Speaker 9: as well. None of that has come to pass. Mister

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Speaker 9: Trump's threatened severe sanctions on mister Putin going into those

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Speaker 9: meetings in Alaska. If there was not a seafire in

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Speaker 9: the aftermath, You've got a seafire. And those threats of

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Speaker 9: severe sanctions against Russia now disappeared. Mister Trump has now said, well,

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Speaker 9: the United States will increase sanctions of the Russians when

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Speaker 9: all European countries stopped importing any oil and natural gas

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Speaker 9: from the Russian Federation, and the European Union puts fifty

508
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Speaker 9: to one hundred percent tariffs on the Chinese, which is

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Speaker 9: going to happen. So the concern right now is is

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Speaker 9: mister Trump has just finished up in the last few

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Speaker 9: moments actually a press conference with the Prime Minister of

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Speaker 9: Great Britain, and he is in England for a state visit.

513
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Speaker 9: Europeans being concerned and tankers. That I think is underscores

514
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Speaker 9: that about can they still depend on the United States?

515
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Speaker 9: Will the United States still be there for them? That

516
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Speaker 9: Trump administration has already said, We're not going to provide

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Speaker 9: any more military aid the Ukraine now. Any military assistance

518
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Speaker 9: to Ukraine now has to be purchased by Ukraine from US.

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Speaker 9: Or purchased from by the Europeans in behalf of Ukraine.

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Speaker 9: And then, of course last week we had the incursion

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Speaker 9: over Polish territory of somewhere between fifteen and twenty Russian drones.

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Speaker 9: Mister Trump kind of dismissed that as well, that was

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Speaker 9: probably an accident. I'm sorry, you don't sam fifteen or

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Speaker 9: twenty drones accidentally across the international border, and ten about

525
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Speaker 9: half of them in the direction of by NATO airbase.

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Speaker 9: That's one heck of a coincidence, and that certainly has

527
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Speaker 9: a concern under the Europeans, they've now created a new

528
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Speaker 9: program for a new operation called European Sentry and moving

529
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Speaker 9: digtional forces into the eastern part of the alliance as

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Speaker 9: tensions continue to mount on the other side of the

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Speaker 9: Russians have shown i'll suggested no desire to negotiate this

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Speaker 9: at all, and in fact, for Minister Labrav kind of

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Speaker 9: waved all that off the last few days, saying that

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Speaker 9: will negotiate basically when the root causes the war have addressed,

535
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Speaker 9: and for the Russians that basically is a Ukrainian surmander.

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Speaker 4: The reporting I read is there's quite a debate going

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Speaker 4: on in the White House, and there are two factions.

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Speaker 4: There's one that really wants to hit Russia hard with

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Speaker 4: the sanctions and really arm Ukraine and tell them, you know,

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Speaker 4: use these weapons to fire into Russia however you need to.

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Speaker 4: Then there's the other faction that says, it's not our circus,

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Speaker 4: not our monkeys, not our war.

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Speaker 2: Let's you know, let's get out of this. Let your

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Speaker 2: appanel it.

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Speaker 4: If we's if it's the first path, if we decide

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Speaker 4: to hit with the sanctions and arm Ukraine, do you

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Speaker 4: think there's any winning the war?

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Speaker 2: And I'm not even sure what winning would mean.

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Speaker 9: I think it's the distinct possibility. You're right again, Jack,

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Speaker 9: You got to define what is winning and winning it

551
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Speaker 9: would be to me an end of the conflict. Might

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Speaker 9: Russia again recognition of some territory, Yes, for example, Crimea

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Speaker 9: would probably remain in Russian hands. Yes, number one. Number two,

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Speaker 9: Ukraine would have to have some assurances this is not

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Speaker 9: going to happen. Then again, either through a security force

556
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Speaker 9: on the ground that would deter the Russians in future,

557
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Speaker 9: and in Ukraine would be able to retain its sovereignty

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Speaker 9: and tick, you're joining other international institutions like the European

559
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Speaker 9: Union might maybe not NATO at anytime soon, but at

560
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Speaker 9: least the European Union, that would be a win. And

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Speaker 9: you know, at the same time, I think you've defined

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Speaker 9: the faction absolutely correctly. But it's interesting. In the United

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Speaker 9: States Senate, there is a bill right now could increased

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Speaker 9: sanctions as well, not only military but more economic pressure

565
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Speaker 9: on the Russians, and has got somewhere like eighty five

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Speaker 9: senators who have endorsed it. My goodness, we couldn't get

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Speaker 9: any five senators on both sides of the issle agree

568
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Speaker 9: on what time of day it is right, but they

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Speaker 9: agreed to that one. And so that too is another

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Speaker 9: card that mister Trump could play. But so far, at

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Speaker 9: least he seems to be moving I fear more in

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Speaker 9: the direction of trying to figure out a graceful way

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Speaker 9: to exit this in the near future.

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Speaker 4: Well, time will tell, and when we get a direction,

575
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Speaker 4: we'll probably talk to you again. That is, doctor Jeff

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Speaker 4: mccosm CBS News Military consultant, Thanks for your time today.

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Speaker 9: Thanks check.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I wonder when that decision is finally going to

579
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Speaker 4: be made, I guarantee you. So there is a one

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Speaker 4: on one talk today between Trump and Starmer, and I

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Speaker 4: don't know if there's any reporting out of what they

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Speaker 4: talked about, or if we'll even hear what they talked about,

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Speaker 4: but I guarantee you that was probably the number one

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Speaker 4: topic is how much support the United States is going

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Speaker 4: to give to Ukraine, If any any whope took care

586
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Speaker 4: of that. Some Kimmel stuff coming up, Yeah, Joe was right.

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Speaker 4: The Wall Street Journal does have I have one person

588
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Speaker 4: say sources with Disney say they're looking at possibly trying

589
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Speaker 4: to figure out how to get Jimmy Kimmel back on

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Speaker 4: the air. I don't know if I believe that's going

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Speaker 4: to happen. I don't know. All the reporting makes it

592
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Speaker 4: sound like he's done, but maybe they're wrong. More on

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Speaker 4: that and other stuff on the way stay here.

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Speaker 10: According to new research, in the wild, chimpanzees likely ingest

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Speaker 10: the equivalent of several alcoholic drinks every day. The chimpsy

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Speaker 10: vibe alcohol by guzzling ripe fruit, which puts their ethanol

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Speaker 10: intake at about fourteen grams per day. You're telling me

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Speaker 10: that animals that fling their poop and masturbate in public

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Speaker 10: might be drunk.

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Speaker 4: If monkeys get drunk on purpose because they like the

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Speaker 4: feeling of being drunk.

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Speaker 2: That's pretty interesting.

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Speaker 4: And uh, what's the what's what are they trying to

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Speaker 4: escape from the pressures of all day long swinging through

605
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Speaker 4: the jungle trying to find a right banana gets old,

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Speaker 4: you know at the end of the day, and they

607
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Speaker 4: take the edge off. I mean, what are their pressures?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Uh want to get this on. This is some sort

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Speaker 4: of tip for is In and Out still only a

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Speaker 4: California restaurant? No, they've spread, They have spread. Okay, I

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Speaker 4: don't know how many of all all y'all have an

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Speaker 4: in and Out near you. My son loves in and

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Speaker 4: Out so much he'd eat in and Out every.

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Speaker 2: Day if I let him. I like it, okay, Oh,

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Speaker 2: I love it. You love the inn.

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Speaker 7: I'm probably well because today is National Cheeseburger Day, and

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Speaker 7: I love in and Out so much.

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Speaker 2: I'm definitely going. I'd forgotten that today was National cheese

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Speaker 2: Burger Day. What do you get when you go? Do

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Speaker 2: you do that? Are you a secret menu person? Or

622
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Speaker 2: you just go with the regular?

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Speaker 7: I go with the regular protein style and the fries

624
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Speaker 7: extra well done.

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Speaker 4: Aren't you healthy and my son does the jungle fries

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Speaker 4: the off menu. Secret thing that's all right? Is that

627
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Speaker 4: what they call him animal animal style jungle. What's jungle style.

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Speaker 4: I've never heard of jungle style. That might be a

629
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Speaker 4: sexual position.

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Speaker 2: You're a drunk monkey. Yeah. Anyway, there's something about In

631
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Speaker 2: and Out. Everybody's waiting in line on this side street.

632
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Speaker 6: There's so many cars in line. This silver Toyota cuts

633
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Speaker 6: everybody right at the corner of the side street in

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Speaker 6: the driveway, and I see it all happen. The staff

635
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Speaker 6: still takes their order and everything.

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Speaker 2: That guy just cut everybody. There's no way.

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Speaker 6: So when it was my attorney to order, I placed

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Speaker 6: my order and then I was like, by the way,

639
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Speaker 6: like that silver Toyota cut everybody in line.

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Speaker 2: He's like, oh yeah, I saw them do that.

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Speaker 6: They put like a home run note is what he

642
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 6: called it, which basically means that they're going to take

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Speaker 6: his order, but they'll tell him to pull out, put

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Speaker 6: his blinkers on in the front, and then they're just

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Speaker 6: going to take way longer to make his order as

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Speaker 6: if he were to wait in line.

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Speaker 2: Anyways, I love In and Out so much.

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Speaker 7: I loved I love the content of that clip, but

649
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Speaker 7: the vocal fry and up speak almost knocked me out

650
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Speaker 7: of my chair, Like cut everybody in line.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, look good for you in and out.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I like that a lot because you know, you see

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Speaker 2: and I don't know.

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Speaker 7: I go down these weird rabbit holes of fights on YouTube,

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Speaker 7: but the oh yeah, drive through fights are awesome.

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Speaker 2: We Oh gosh. You get two people that.

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Speaker 7: Pulled in from two different directions in the parking lot

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Speaker 7: to the same lane at the same time, and both

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Speaker 7: of them are not going to move, so they're both

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Speaker 7: out of their cars cussing each other out.

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Speaker 2: It's like, dude, this is a Wendy's.

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Speaker 4: Is it usually like dark as in the bars have

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Speaker 4: closed and maybe alcohol's involved.

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Speaker 7: No, it's ranging from you're in line for breakfast on

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Speaker 7: your way to work to after the bars have closed.

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Speaker 2: It happened.

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Speaker 7: It's it's a non discriminatory time frame.

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Speaker 4: I hope it doesn't make me a beta male, but like,

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Speaker 4: if you pull in you really want to go go ahead,

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Speaker 4: It'll take me two extra minutes to get my food.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes you smart jack, not a beta.

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Speaker 4: It seems like a lot of hassle for anywhoya, what

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Speaker 4: do you go, what do I search on on YouTube

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Speaker 4: if I want to spend my afternoon doing this?

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Speaker 7: Well, so I am subscribed to a channel called public Freakouts, okay,

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Speaker 7: and then YouTube just provides me with this beautiful algorithm

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Speaker 7: of all these people just losing their s in public,

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Speaker 7: and it drove me towards this, this drive through drama page.

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Speaker 4: That's funny that there are things because like I have

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Speaker 4: a friend who likes to watch boat docking mishaps. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: people people who can't can't dock their big fancy boat

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Speaker 4: and crash it into stuff and like poke holes.

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Speaker 2: I love those two. I love them too. Hell hell

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Speaker 2: kind of way is it to spend your day?

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Speaker 7: I don't know, but I am ashamed, somewhat ashamed, but

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Speaker 7: I'll admit it. I spent about an hour and a

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Speaker 7: half watching public freakouts the other day. One because they're hilarious,

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Speaker 7: and two it's a great reminder to not do that.

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Speaker 2: It's a camera everywhere.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so that one. That one, I think you get

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Speaker 4: to feel superior to people. Look at these numbnuts fighting

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Speaker 4: the boat crashing ones. Probably got a little bit of envy.

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Speaker 4: It's like, you got this fancy boat and look at you,

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Speaker 4: you idiot, You just yeah, that's probably what that one is.

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Speaker 7: I twinge at those two because I'm like, I know

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Speaker 7: how much that's gonna cost.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, that's pretty funny.

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Speaker 2: The way people can spend their time.

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Speaker 7: I'll send you the lake to my public freakouts page

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Speaker 7: because it's pretty it's pretty great good.

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Speaker 2: It's a good way to waste some time if you

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Speaker 2: need to awesome.

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Speaker 4: You know what people are not spending their time doing

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Speaker 4: watching late night television. I was just looking at the

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Speaker 4: ratings that they put out, obviously attached to the whole

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Speaker 4: Jimmy Kimmel getting fired or temporary delayed or whatever ends

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Speaker 4: up being. All the ratings are down for all the

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Speaker 4: shows Kimmel, CBS before they got rid of Colbert in

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Speaker 4: the Tonight Show. They're all shadows of what they used

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Speaker 4: to be fifteen years ago and certainly twenty five years ago.

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Speaker 4: They get way more attention and emphasis put on what

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Speaker 4: they say and whether they exist than they deserve for

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Speaker 4: the size of the show. I mean, if it was

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Speaker 4: just a sitcom on in the middle of the day

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Speaker 4: with that audience, you would have never heard of it

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Speaker 4: and nobody would say a word about it. Because they're

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Speaker 4: not impactful enough. If you missed a segment in an hour,

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Speaker 4: get the podcast Armstrong and Getty on demand.

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Speaker 2: We do four hours every

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Speaker 1: Day Armstrong and Getty