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Speaker 1: Welcome into another edition of the Jaguars Reporters podcast JP

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Speaker 1: Shadwick with Brian Sexton and the Jaguars. Heading into Week thirteen,

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Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Bengals come to town for Monday Night football

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Speaker 1: and we'll get to that matchup coming up. But one

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Speaker 1: final bow on the Jaguars Texans game.

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Speaker 2: Brian and big bow another out of Texas.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it was huge because all three phases

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Speaker 1: contributed in a big way in this game. The quarterback

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Speaker 1: played big, the wide receiver in the third quarter, Calvin

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Speaker 1: Ridley played big, got all his numbers in that quarter.

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen had sacks and key moments on defense special teams. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they missed a fifty five yard field goal, but McManus

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Speaker 1: was big. I mean it took all of that to

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Speaker 1: have the field goal hit the crossbar at the end.

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Speaker 1: So what a win.

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Speaker 3: You know what stands out to me is the Monday

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Speaker 3: morning after the Jaguars were blown out by the San

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Speaker 3: Francisco forty nine ers, it it was pretty clear that

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Speaker 3: if they just got these next two wins at home

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Speaker 3: against the Titans and on the road against the Texans,

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Speaker 3: they'd be eight and three. You know, with their arms

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Speaker 3: around the division title, right and right where they wanted

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Speaker 3: to be. And they went to Houston to take on

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Speaker 3: a hot team.

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Speaker 1: I mean CJ.

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Speaker 3: Stroud is a media darling and a team that a

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Speaker 3: lot of people picked to beat the Jaguars. They just thought, well,

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Speaker 3: even though the roster isn't as good, because you can't

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Speaker 3: look at that roster objectively and say that the Texans

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Speaker 3: roster matches the Jaguars, but they had been playing well.

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Speaker 3: They're very well coached team, and everyone's like, yeah, here's

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Speaker 3: the upset, and the Texans are going to take the

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Speaker 3: division lead. And so the Jaguars went into a game

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Speaker 3: that kind of had a feel to me as big as,

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Speaker 3: if not bigger than the Niners. They needed to win

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Speaker 3: this one. There was legitimate pressure on them, and they won.

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Speaker 3: They fell down fourteen to thirteen, went right down the

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Speaker 3: field and scored a touchdown, went right back down the

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Speaker 3: field and scored a field goal, and said, okay, we

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Speaker 3: got a ten point lead. Now you kind of have

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Speaker 3: the hand on their forehead like the big brother to

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Speaker 3: the little brother, and you can't hit me right, you

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Speaker 3: can't get me. And then of course Josh Allen stepped up,

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Speaker 3: so it felt like a big game. It was a

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Speaker 3: big game, and for a team that needed to prove

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Speaker 3: it could win one of these kinds of games, especially

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Speaker 3: on the road JP, it stood out to me as

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Speaker 3: being a game that the Jaguars won that was must

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Speaker 3: next six games.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and let's get into that a little bit because

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Speaker 1: right at the end of the game, at the end

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Speaker 1: of that one o'clock window, the graphic pops up on

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Speaker 1: the screen Jaguars number one seed in the AFC at

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Speaker 1: that moment, which is a little eye opening. It's like,

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Speaker 1: wait a minute, Okay, if these other teams do play

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Speaker 1: later today, the Ravens are playing later, the Chiefs were

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Speaker 1: playing later, but at that particular moment, for three hours

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Speaker 1: at least, the Jaguars were the number one seed. That's

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Speaker 1: how final line it is. Well, you're playing one of

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Speaker 1: those teams had the head coming up in a couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks in Baltimore, already lost to Kansas City, but

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Speaker 1: they've got the Packers this week and in Lambeau and

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Speaker 1: we'll see what happens in their schedule ahead. So it's

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Speaker 1: within reach. And my thought is, how does this team

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Speaker 1: handle that can they go get that? Are they motivated

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Speaker 3: I think it is, just in talking to Josh Allen

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Speaker 3: he was really stung by what they did out here

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Speaker 3: against the Niners. He more than any other player that

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Speaker 3: times and he knows these are not those times. And

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Speaker 3: yet if you watch that game from the stands are

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Speaker 3: on TV or listen to on the radio, you thought,

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Speaker 3: same old Jaguars in that game against San Francisco, and

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Speaker 3: he wants to prove that they're not here. Here's what

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Speaker 3: it stands out to me. This thing is setting up

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Speaker 3: for the Jaguars to be able to take a swing.

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Speaker 3: And I'll go all the way back to nineteen ninety six.

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Speaker 3: You had injuries that kind of set the Jaguars up

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Speaker 3: on that run. Right, Everything kind of fell into place

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Speaker 3: for them and then they took care of business. Okay, well,

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Speaker 3: this is supposed to be Marquee game on Monday, and

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Speaker 3: one right then you go to Cleveland. I mean Cleveland's

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Speaker 3: Okay, you mayby go get that one too. Right then

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Speaker 3: you come home against the Ravens. All right, that's the

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Speaker 3: big boy one right there. Line up and play. Put

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Speaker 3: your hand in the dirt. Let's go because then, right

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Speaker 3: you get the Panthers, the Bucks, the Panthers and the Titans.

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Speaker 3: We should get those. This is setting up for the

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Speaker 3: Jaguars to prove it they can. I don't want to

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Speaker 3: say they should yet, but man, they could, and what

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Speaker 3: fun that would be. Can you imagine this team with

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Speaker 3: the home playoff game after a bye week?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm dreaming too big at this moment.

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Speaker 1: I know it's not too big. It's right there in

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Speaker 1: can go get it. And it is within reach. It's

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Speaker 1: not an impossible dream.

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Speaker 2: Here's what's fun.

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Speaker 1: Week to week.

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Speaker 3: You're in control of your destiny, but you're also interested

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Speaker 3: in the scoreboard. Remember last year you were looking to

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Speaker 3: see that the Titans lose. How's this thing setting up? Okay,

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Speaker 3: if we win this week this year, it's just win

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Speaker 3: and then what are they doing? I mean, it could

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Speaker 3: be a ton of fun around here. And this is

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Speaker 3: a real growth curve. You remember last year the Jaguars

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Speaker 3: their back was against the wall. Well, this is the

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Speaker 3: one hundred and eighty degree opposite of it. So you're

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Speaker 3: learning how to be a front runner, which I think

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Speaker 3: Doug has kind of alluded to. We talked about can

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Speaker 3: this team make that transition this year? Well we're about

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Speaker 1: We are about to find out. Putting ahead, We're back

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Speaker 1: in a moment and some Monday night football history, some trivia.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll have some answers to a little bit.

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Speaker 1: It's Jaguars Reporters. Welcome back to the Jaguars Reporters podcast.

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Speaker 1: JP Shadwick and Brian Sexton the Jaguars coming off a

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Speaker 1: win in Houston. They've won seven of the last eight,

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Speaker 1: but now at eight and three record, first place, two

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Speaker 2: Keep talking, it sounds great currently the number.

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Speaker 1: Three seed in the AFC. Well, this week it's Monday

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Speaker 1: Night Football and the Jaguars last appearance on MNF was

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Speaker 1: twenty eleven. And think about this, Brian, the transition time

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Speaker 2: I thought about it.

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Speaker 1: The week before that game, mister Weaver announced that he

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Speaker 1: Jaguars lost that game on Monday Night. The next week,

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Speaker 1: the league approved the ownership sale to Shod Khan. His

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Speaker 1: the twenty twelve season. I looked it up again the

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Speaker 1: other day. I couldn't even believe how many of these

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Speaker 2: We've climbed. It's unbelievable. Yeah, it really is.

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Speaker 3: And I said that to a rotary group last week.

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Speaker 3: You realize that the last time that the Jaguars played

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Speaker 3: on Monday Night football, Mel Tucker was the head coach, right,

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Speaker 3: and Wayne Weaver was still the owner, and Blaine Gabbert

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Speaker 3: the Pittsburgh Steelers Week three of nineteen ninety seven. Mark

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Speaker 3: The crowd didn't find out until introductions that he was

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Speaker 3: the roar. And of course the way that that game ended,

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Speaker 3: beating the playoffs. But that was That's one of those moments.

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Speaker 3: And then I know you were here for a big

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Speaker 1: You showed me a big.

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Speaker 3: Six, right, that was a nine to nothing game.

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Speaker 3: It was a magnificent night. They had the thundersticks. It

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Speaker 3: it was. It's crazy. The Jaguars have played fifteen Monday

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Speaker 3: been a long time. Eight and seven all time on

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Speaker 3: Jaguars are going to be an attractive draw. They're a

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Speaker 3: make a prediction right now the next year the Jaguars

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Speaker 2: Oh you're calling it, I call it right now.

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Speaker 1: It's a lot.

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Speaker 2: It's a double lock.

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Speaker 1: It's a double lock. My gosh, Tony do right. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we had a triple lock last night. That's another story altogether.

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Speaker 1: You know, the theme song this year on Monday Night

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Speaker 1: Football is I can feel it coming in the air

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Speaker 1: tonight for Stable. But that's an awe job. I kind

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Speaker 1: of leaned towards Grateful Dead. What a long, strange trip

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Speaker 2: It has, I mean it really has. And to all

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Speaker 3: from that point it just spiraled away.

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Speaker 2: Winning is so hard in this league. Consider this.

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Speaker 3: The Jaguars took over last Sunday with nine to fifteen

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Speaker 3: Ten eleven years of just ugh. Right for fans who've

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Speaker 3: The lighting thing that they're doing here, I wish you

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Speaker 3: where you're on primetime and it's tough. Primetime is tough

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Speaker 1: I think so. And the Cincinnati Bengals come in without

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Speaker 3: I know that Trevor said that he'd rather have other

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Speaker 3: Few years ago in Kansas City, and I was just

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Speaker 3: and Trevor are tremendous, and I was looking forward to it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, now you gotta go win it. But it could

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Speaker 2: be fun depliable.

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Speaker 1: I guess what. We're gonna have this history conversation again

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Speaker 1: in two weeks for Sunday Night Football. It's been even

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Speaker 1: longer for the Jaguars. Uh great stuff. Fries join it,

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Speaker 1: Brian Section, J. P. Shaddwick to Fortunato. This is Jaguars

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