WEBVTT - National Park Hidden Gems 0:00:06.880 --> 0:00:10.160 Welcome to Creature future production of iHeartRadio. I'm your host 0:00:10.200 --> 0:00:15.040 of Many Parasites, Katie Golden. I studied psychology and evolutionary biology, 0:00:15.040 --> 0:00:16.840 and today on the show, we're talking about some of 0:00:16.920 --> 0:00:21.360 the coolest animals you can find in US national parks. 0:00:21.840 --> 0:00:23.760 Our national parks are home to some of the most 0:00:23.840 --> 0:00:28.480 stunning species on the planet and are incredibly important reserves 0:00:28.520 --> 0:00:33.000 that protect the biological jewels of America. From adorable little 0:00:33.000 --> 0:00:35.680 cat like critters that look like they came straight out 0:00:35.680 --> 0:00:39.680 of a Miyazaki film to the goat of Horns who 0:00:39.760 --> 0:00:43.479 as spiky little guy with biological weaponry. These are just 0:00:43.600 --> 0:00:47.800 three examples of the amazing animals found in national parks. 0:00:48.280 --> 0:00:50.440 Discover this and more as we answer the age old 0:00:50.479 --> 0:00:53.159 question when is a cat not a cat? And a 0:00:53.200 --> 0:00:56.279 toad not a toad? Joining me today is stand up 0:00:56.280 --> 0:01:00.160 comedian writer and runs the Facial Recognition Comedy Show at 0:01:00.200 --> 0:01:04.720 the Comedy Shore. Comedy Shore Comedy Store. Pullavigod All and. 0:01:04.840 --> 0:01:08.720 Welcome, ohoy mate, We're at the comedy show. 0:01:10.000 --> 0:01:16.280 You're the Comedy Shore. She shells seashells by the air 0:01:17.120 --> 0:01:18.760 at the Comedy Shore. 0:01:19.680 --> 0:01:22.360 Taking a real hit. We're selling seashells now. You know, 0:01:24.840 --> 0:01:30.560 I barely know where a barely sell her. 0:01:31.160 --> 0:01:38.679 Yeah, cattlefish, I barely know a fish. This is why 0:01:38.760 --> 0:01:41.759 you do stand up and I do sit down, Eddy, 0:01:41.920 --> 0:01:45.600 sit down. Pre recorded comedy. 0:01:46.240 --> 0:01:48.240 We love it, We love all of it. 0:01:49.720 --> 0:01:54.560 Uh yeah, so just for apropos of absolutely nothing. I 0:01:54.600 --> 0:01:59.600 really wanted to talk about the national parks in the 0:01:59.600 --> 0:02:05.600 the Gulf of Mexico, I mean the United States. The 0:02:06.200 --> 0:02:09.679 it is. They're like one of no joke, one of 0:02:09.760 --> 0:02:15.480 my favorite things about America. And you know they're in 0:02:15.639 --> 0:02:19.799 danger right now due to funding cuts. 0:02:19.760 --> 0:02:22.280 Due to apex predators, the white Man. 0:02:24.919 --> 0:02:29.400 Yes, yes, yeah, venture capitalists are going after our national parks. 0:02:29.440 --> 0:02:34.239 They are cutting staff for no apparent reason, just like 0:02:34.800 --> 0:02:38.720 n you know, you're all fired, which is very bad. 0:02:39.080 --> 0:02:42.480 I saw such a heartbreaking post from a dad who 0:02:42.600 --> 0:02:44.680 was like, what do I tell my wife as she's 0:02:44.760 --> 0:02:46.960 crying and I don't have a job, And he like 0:02:47.360 --> 0:02:49.400 the way he wrote his whole post about it was 0:02:49.440 --> 0:02:55.560 really beautiful. He was like, yeah, yeah, it's heartbreaking. 0:02:55.320 --> 0:02:58.919 And I yeah, I have a special place in my 0:02:58.960 --> 0:03:03.320 heart for park rangers. This really stings, it really sucks. 0:03:03.360 --> 0:03:06.880 They's also like a key part of Indian culture. You 0:03:07.000 --> 0:03:10.040 will not ever go to a national park and not 0:03:10.160 --> 0:03:13.240 see an auntie in a sari with sneakers on. It 0:03:13.320 --> 0:03:17.040 is very important to our culture to visit national parks, 0:03:17.120 --> 0:03:20.559 national monuments, to be tourists in all of these areas, 0:03:20.639 --> 0:03:25.320 just at the gas station nearby, heating up some food 0:03:25.360 --> 0:03:30.000 that we packed ourselves, and like experiencing being American. Like 0:03:30.040 --> 0:03:33.359 that is that's what we think America is. We all 0:03:33.400 --> 0:03:35.720 buy a grill that we never use and we visit 0:03:35.840 --> 0:03:36.640 national parks. 0:03:36.760 --> 0:03:39.400 I just don't think you're wrong. Who doesn't like who 0:03:39.520 --> 0:03:42.280 doesn't like national parks? This is the thing that gets 0:03:42.280 --> 0:03:47.480 me is I feel like everyone likes national parks. Like 0:03:47.720 --> 0:03:50.400 everyone wants to go to the Grand Canyon, everyone wants 0:03:50.400 --> 0:03:55.360 to go to Zion, to the Sequoias. It's everyone has 0:03:55.520 --> 0:04:00.560 like experience enjoying national parks. They are so in credible 0:04:00.560 --> 0:04:03.880 and amazing. And even if people are I know, like 0:04:04.160 --> 0:04:07.080 probably all my listeners care about them also because of 0:04:07.320 --> 0:04:11.040 conservation and animals. But even if you're just purely selfish, 0:04:11.080 --> 0:04:14.960 it's just they're amazing to go to and look at. 0:04:15.120 --> 0:04:21.279 Yeah, this is like cartoon villain. Yeah, let's find like 0:04:21.400 --> 0:04:24.400 the things that people love the most you know, national 0:04:24.440 --> 0:04:28.320 parks flying right side up and let's take it away 0:04:28.360 --> 0:04:28.840 from them. 0:04:29.320 --> 0:04:31.559 Yeah. By the way, if any of you out there 0:04:31.600 --> 0:04:36.240 are happen to know or are park rangers, either current 0:04:36.560 --> 0:04:39.119 or former, and you would like to talk about stuff 0:04:39.160 --> 0:04:42.559 on the podcast, send me an email at Creature Feature 0:04:42.600 --> 0:04:45.480 Pod at gmail dot com. I would love to talk 0:04:45.520 --> 0:04:49.200 to you. Or if you're if you're shy, like some 0:04:49.240 --> 0:04:50.920 of the animals we're about to talk about, you can 0:04:50.960 --> 0:04:54.200 write to me and I will share your stories for sure, 0:04:54.240 --> 0:04:57.000 because I feel like this is super important. So yeah, 0:04:57.040 --> 0:05:00.640 let's let's talk about some of the amazing animal that 0:05:01.440 --> 0:05:03.479 I feel like a lot of these just are not 0:05:04.080 --> 0:05:06.080 some of them are not super well known, right, Like 0:05:06.520 --> 0:05:10.200 everyone loves a good moose, a good bear that you 0:05:10.240 --> 0:05:13.039 see at these national parks. But these guys are much 0:05:13.080 --> 0:05:18.280 more elusive or maybe less glamorous. They get there less 0:05:18.279 --> 0:05:21.480 in the spotlight. But they're really amazing. They're so cool. 0:05:21.800 --> 0:05:25.120 So the first one actors that like you see in everything, 0:05:25.120 --> 0:05:27.400 but you don't know their name, right, like those guys 0:05:27.440 --> 0:05:30.880 like that one guy the Radar exactly there is in Ghost, 0:05:31.279 --> 0:05:32.599 the Animal World. 0:05:32.839 --> 0:05:36.839 He was in Ghost and he was in another movie 0:05:37.360 --> 0:05:39.279 that guy. You know, yeah, that guy. I know what 0:05:39.320 --> 0:05:42.240 you're talking that guy, that guy. Well, so this one 0:05:42.320 --> 0:05:46.200 is amazing. So this is the ringtail cat and this 0:05:46.360 --> 0:05:53.680 is found in Zion National Park. They're also found in Oregon, California, Nevada, Colorado, Texas, Arizona, 0:05:53.720 --> 0:05:58.440 New Mexico, Oklahoma, Kansas, Baja California, and Mexico and dry 0:05:59.160 --> 0:06:04.400 arid regions and Paulavia, I sent you, I sent you 0:06:04.640 --> 0:06:09.400 a image of one of these little little guys. 0:06:09.800 --> 0:06:12.040 I got it. Also side note, my dog is partly 0:06:12.200 --> 0:06:13.960 crazy right now because the people just walk past the 0:06:13.960 --> 0:06:18.279 window and he sensed it in his crate. So he 0:06:18.320 --> 0:06:21.000 has a natural enemy of my apartment building and it's 0:06:21.040 --> 0:06:24.840 other dogs. But these do these creatures, do these beautiful 0:06:25.000 --> 0:06:28.880 cats have a natural enemy other than the president? 0:06:29.400 --> 0:06:34.039 They they do. They actually can be preyed upon by 0:06:34.320 --> 0:06:40.120 mountain lions, by by large birds of prey raptors. So 0:06:40.240 --> 0:06:44.480 they are pretty. They can be pretty solitary and elusive 0:06:44.880 --> 0:06:48.520 and shy. But they are actually even though they're called 0:06:48.600 --> 0:06:50.960 ringtail cats, and they kind of look like a cat, 0:06:51.000 --> 0:06:55.760 they look like a mix between like a cat and 0:06:55.800 --> 0:07:00.120 maybe a mouse or a ferret with a long, fluffy 0:07:00.520 --> 0:07:02.520 black and white striped tail. 0:07:02.839 --> 0:07:03.880 They're really beautiful. 0:07:04.040 --> 0:07:05.400 They're so gorgeous. 0:07:05.720 --> 0:07:07.679 They're gorgeous, and they look really sweet. 0:07:08.320 --> 0:07:12.440 They actually have a pretty nice disposition. Apparently they look 0:07:12.440 --> 0:07:14.559 a little bit like, you know, the like in the 0:07:14.760 --> 0:07:19.280 Avatar the Last Airbender cartoon, the Little guy Momo kind 0:07:19.280 --> 0:07:19.840 of looks like that. 0:07:19.880 --> 0:07:22.520 Actually, I still need to watch Avatar. 0:07:23.080 --> 0:07:23.680 Wow. 0:07:24.160 --> 0:07:29.400 Wow, its like on my list of like five no spoilers. Okay, 0:07:29.600 --> 0:07:32.480 that's on you if you speak for me. Okay, I'm 0:07:32.560 --> 0:07:36.440 still it only came out decades ago, but I'm I'm 0:07:36.480 --> 0:07:38.600 literally That's one of the things where I have this 0:07:38.680 --> 0:07:41.120 thing where I'm like, Okay, I feel like I lost 0:07:41.320 --> 0:07:44.160 parts of big American pop culture just because of my 0:07:44.480 --> 0:07:47.520 family or like what I experienced or whatever. So I 0:07:47.560 --> 0:07:49.840 have like a list of like things that I go 0:07:50.120 --> 0:07:52.200 that I'm like, Okay, I need this to relate to 0:07:52.240 --> 0:07:55.360 other people. And now that I'm thinking that, it might 0:07:55.400 --> 0:07:59.320 be neurodivergence, but I don't I don't know. 0:08:00.880 --> 0:08:04.560 If I have that, but yeah, I'm gonna use I'm 0:08:04.560 --> 0:08:07.280 going to use neurodivergence next time someone calls me out 0:08:07.320 --> 0:08:09.000 on not knowing the lyrics to a song. I'm just 0:08:09.040 --> 0:08:10.440 gonna be like, I'm neurodivergent. 0:08:10.600 --> 0:08:13.000 I gotta I don't think. I don't think that's it. 0:08:13.160 --> 0:08:14.880 I think it's like the fact that I'm like I 0:08:14.920 --> 0:08:17.440 need to like write down things to relate to people 0:08:17.520 --> 0:08:20.040 or to understand pop culture moments, like I need to 0:08:20.080 --> 0:08:23.960 consume this as as research on the human subject, like 0:08:24.320 --> 0:08:25.040 I do. 0:08:25.280 --> 0:08:27.120 I am. I am going to use it as an excuse. 0:08:27.120 --> 0:08:29.120 So I already use it as an excuse for parking 0:08:29.160 --> 0:08:31.440 bad because I did read a study about people with 0:08:31.480 --> 0:08:37.840 OCD not having as good spatial awareness. I do have OCD, 0:08:38.360 --> 0:08:40.360 and so it's sorry. 0:08:40.360 --> 0:08:42.680 I mean, it's not cool, but it's like to learn 0:08:42.760 --> 0:08:43.120 about you. 0:08:43.480 --> 0:08:47.319 It's very cool now. It wasn't cool when it was untreated, 0:08:47.360 --> 0:08:50.240 but now it's it's a it's doing good. It gives 0:08:50.240 --> 0:08:56.120 me a good excuse to like run into polls. But so, 0:08:56.440 --> 0:09:00.800 the the ringtail cat, the cat back to the cat 0:09:01.240 --> 0:09:04.840 actually not a cat, which you know, I could make 0:09:04.880 --> 0:09:07.720 a joke about that driving my OCD crazy, but that's 0:09:07.760 --> 0:09:11.200 not how it works. So the ringtail cats are not cats. 0:09:11.240 --> 0:09:16.400 They're actually related to raccoons. Kuwaitis kinkajews and they're in 0:09:16.480 --> 0:09:21.640 the Procyoniday family. So yeah, they're related to raccoons, not 0:09:21.640 --> 0:09:22.480 not felines. 0:09:23.280 --> 0:09:26.680 They look like a little raccoon ish liketit. The hands, 0:09:26.800 --> 0:09:29.920 you gotta get the little hands like yeah, those rifle 0:09:29.960 --> 0:09:31.240 through trash, you know what I mean. 0:09:31.559 --> 0:09:34.880 They do have very agile little hands. They they're actually 0:09:34.880 --> 0:09:38.240 their ankles can rotate one hundred and eighty degrees. What 0:09:39.120 --> 0:09:42.240 they can clime trees, they. 0:09:42.120 --> 0:09:44.320 Can be They're like exorcist hands. 0:09:44.440 --> 0:09:48.959 They're kind of exorcist hands. Yeah, so technically the exorcist 0:09:48.960 --> 0:09:52.040 doesn't isn't that three hundred and sixty degrees because. 0:09:51.800 --> 0:09:55.760 It's all one hundred and eighty So it's not Although 0:09:55.760 --> 0:09:56.360 they could I. 0:09:56.280 --> 0:09:58.840 Think that means that they could open doors. So don't 0:09:58.840 --> 0:10:00.880 get on you know, don't get on their bad. 0:10:00.760 --> 0:10:03.720 Side, you know, honestly, it's our fault for inventing doors. 0:10:03.840 --> 0:10:07.160 Well, it is our fault for inventing doors. I would 0:10:07.520 --> 0:10:10.000 want there to be a B and E with one 0:10:10.000 --> 0:10:12.640 of these little guys, one of these green tail cats, 0:10:12.679 --> 0:10:15.800 because they're super cute, steal all my stuff. They actually 0:10:15.840 --> 0:10:18.400 they have a little imask going on, but instead of 0:10:18.400 --> 0:10:20.679 it being a black I mask like with raccoons, it's 0:10:20.679 --> 0:10:23.400 a white ie mask and it's kind of converted. 0:10:24.040 --> 0:10:27.320 The striping looks like raccoons. It does all making so 0:10:27.440 --> 0:10:28.000 much sense. 0:10:28.200 --> 0:10:32.800 Yes, they're extremely cute. They weigh only around one to 0:10:32.840 --> 0:10:36.040 three pounds, that's only up to one and a half kilograms. 0:10:36.360 --> 0:10:39.880 Their tails are as long as their bodies, if not longer, 0:10:40.040 --> 0:10:43.080 so about a foot long or a little longer. 0:10:43.720 --> 0:10:46.520 I know your audience is like, not the people I'm 0:10:46.559 --> 0:10:48.960 talking about, and I know this is to like educate 0:10:49.000 --> 0:10:51.360 people so that they value national parks. But I'm like 0:10:51.520 --> 0:10:53.480 part of me with how cute these guys are, and 0:10:53.520 --> 0:10:56.720 you're saying like they're more docile than other animals, I'm like, 0:10:56.760 --> 0:10:58.840 we need to gate keep these because people are just 0:10:58.840 --> 0:11:01.439 gonna go and mess with them, do you know what 0:11:01.520 --> 0:11:04.160 I mean. I'm like, fortunately said those things. I was like, 0:11:04.240 --> 0:11:05.320 let's protect them. 0:11:05.679 --> 0:11:09.040 Yeah. Fortunately they're very shy and elusive, so they they're 0:11:09.080 --> 0:11:14.280 actually relatively understudied because they managed to be very solitary. 0:11:14.559 --> 0:11:17.959 But in terms of in terms of like people trying 0:11:18.000 --> 0:11:21.559 to turn them into pets, I don't think they're a 0:11:21.600 --> 0:11:24.640 big part of the pet trade right now. They might 0:11:24.679 --> 0:11:27.319 be a bit. I think they can sometimes be victims 0:11:27.320 --> 0:11:29.520 of the pet trade, which is not good. But they 0:11:29.520 --> 0:11:32.800 were like, there was an interesting situation which was like 0:11:33.080 --> 0:11:38.040 for miners like gold miners and other types of or 0:11:38.440 --> 0:11:44.079 or minors not under eighteen, not a minor, no, no, exactly. 0:11:44.640 --> 0:11:47.480 Not people who cannot order or drink at a bar legally, 0:11:47.800 --> 0:11:50.320 but people who go in these can't. 0:11:50.480 --> 0:11:51.040 No, I'm kidding. 0:11:51.160 --> 0:11:57.040 These probably would love to drink some alcohol. They are omnivorous, 0:11:57.120 --> 0:11:59.480 so they will eat or drink about anything they can 0:11:59.520 --> 0:12:03.440 get their little pause on. But miners, gold miners, other 0:12:03.520 --> 0:12:06.120 ore miners. I don't really know mining history in the 0:12:06.200 --> 0:12:09.600 US except for gold mining because I lived in California 0:12:09.600 --> 0:12:11.800 and our school system was like you're learning about gold. 0:12:12.880 --> 0:12:17.440 But yeah, they would actually kind of quasi tame them, 0:12:17.520 --> 0:12:21.120 so they would keep them near their camps and feed 0:12:21.160 --> 0:12:24.280 them little pieces of food, and then they would hang 0:12:24.280 --> 0:12:27.560 out in these mining camps and then like kill the 0:12:27.640 --> 0:12:29.760 mice and the rats and eat them, and so they 0:12:29.840 --> 0:12:33.360 kind of kept them like housecats. But the key thing 0:12:33.440 --> 0:12:37.440 there was that because these were mining camps out in 0:12:37.559 --> 0:12:42.800 the wild, right, they basically were allowed to roam around that. 0:12:42.840 --> 0:12:44.960 It's not so much that they kept them in cages 0:12:45.040 --> 0:12:45.800 or anything like that. 0:12:45.960 --> 0:12:49.640 So they would just have like little hats with flashlights 0:12:49.679 --> 0:12:58.400 on them. Yes, okay, I'm so little. 0:12:56.400 --> 0:12:58.760 Overalls where one of the straps is kind of falling 0:12:58.800 --> 0:13:01.360 off their shoulder and the little little you know, a 0:13:01.360 --> 0:13:06.160 little bit. It's very cute. It's extremely cute. There. Arboreal 0:13:06.400 --> 0:13:10.040 meaning they spend most of their time in trees. Uh, 0:13:10.080 --> 0:13:13.760 and they are very adept climbers. Like I mentioned before, 0:13:13.760 --> 0:13:16.240 they can climb trees really well. They can also climb 0:13:16.480 --> 0:13:19.480 vertical rock walls, and they know how to climb up 0:13:19.480 --> 0:13:22.920 a cactus without getting stuck with the thors. And they'll 0:13:22.920 --> 0:13:24.760 happily eat prickly pear fruits. 0:13:24.800 --> 0:13:26.960 So they are amazing. 0:13:27.320 --> 0:13:31.160 Yeah, they're they're very they're very efficient in these like 0:13:31.320 --> 0:13:35.840 are desert regions. If you're wondering what they sound like, 0:13:39.880 --> 0:13:40.520 what's the matter? 0:13:42.559 --> 0:13:43.800 Under distress? 0:13:44.480 --> 0:13:47.760 He's he's fine. He's like on a roof someone's roof 0:13:47.920 --> 0:13:50.800 and the person's like looking up at him and he's 0:13:50.880 --> 0:13:51.480 kind of barking. 0:13:51.600 --> 0:13:54.480 So you know, he's the one who's like, where you're going, buddy, 0:13:54.520 --> 0:13:56.920 that's the that's. 0:13:56.200 --> 0:13:59.400 The retail cago Like, where are you going? Buddy? Hey? 0:13:59.640 --> 0:14:00.960 Hey are you going? 0:14:00.960 --> 0:14:02.319 I got just some gold again. 0:14:04.000 --> 0:14:06.360 So yeah, because of what I told you about them 0:14:06.679 --> 0:14:10.280 having been sort of tamed by miners. They're also called 0:14:10.320 --> 0:14:14.160 miners cats, and again, I'm really cute. I must emphasize 0:14:14.160 --> 0:14:17.400 they are not cats, but yeah, they apparently had a 0:14:17.440 --> 0:14:20.880 somewhat tamable disposition when they were bribed. But again, they 0:14:20.920 --> 0:14:24.840 wouldn't make good pets in a domestic environment because they 0:14:24.880 --> 0:14:28.360 need a lot of space. They're not super social animals either, Like, 0:14:28.400 --> 0:14:30.440 they don't hang out with each other all that often. 0:14:30.840 --> 0:14:36.000 They mostly hang out, uh, to groom each other or 0:14:36.040 --> 0:14:38.160 to mate. 0:14:38.400 --> 0:14:40.720 I feel I was until you said that last part. 0:14:40.760 --> 0:14:43.120 I was like, I feel like in another life, I 0:14:43.120 --> 0:14:47.120 would have been one of these guys. And then you 0:14:47.120 --> 0:14:49.120 were like they each other and mate. I'm like, I'm 0:14:49.160 --> 0:14:53.560 not cleaning somebody else. I'm all alone most of the time. 0:14:53.600 --> 0:14:56.400 And then I just go clean somebody else. No, thank you. 0:14:56.720 --> 0:15:00.960 I mean, yeah, I guess I'm I kind of like 0:15:01.040 --> 0:15:04.400 that idea, just like hanging out eating, eating random stuff 0:15:04.440 --> 0:15:06.320 and then getting your hair brushed by buddy. 0:15:07.320 --> 0:15:09.640 It's like going to the salon for your Yeah, exactly. 0:15:09.800 --> 0:15:12.000 I I'm one of I'm one of those freaks who 0:15:12.080 --> 0:15:15.120 enjoys going to get my haircut because of the because 0:15:15.160 --> 0:15:19.600 of the shampooing. Oh yeah. Yeah, I'm one of. 0:15:19.520 --> 0:15:24.440 Those sometimes you need somebody else to do it. 0:15:24.800 --> 0:15:28.320 I mean, it's it, it is. It's like, it's obviously 0:15:28.360 --> 0:15:30.600 I can shampoo my own hair. 0:15:30.720 --> 0:15:32.200 But whoa, whoa, whoa. 0:15:32.480 --> 0:15:35.720 But stand when I have to get my hair cut 0:15:35.840 --> 0:15:39.800 and they're like shampooing it. I'm like, you know, I 0:15:39.800 --> 0:15:44.240 didn't realize how much better other people are at shampooing hair. 0:15:44.360 --> 0:15:47.800 The angles, it's the angles, and then they use more 0:15:47.880 --> 0:15:51.160 of their arm strength, right, you know, it's like a massage. 0:15:51.240 --> 0:15:52.280 It's weird. 0:15:53.240 --> 0:15:55.520 It's like they're ripping off parts of my scalp, but 0:15:55.600 --> 0:15:57.400 in a good way and I like it. 0:15:57.480 --> 0:15:57.960 Yeah. 0:15:58.000 --> 0:16:04.720 So anyways, uh yeah, so they're uh, there have been. 0:16:04.880 --> 0:16:08.200 Because they're so secretive. It's a little bit hard to 0:16:08.360 --> 0:16:14.000 know too much about them because they they are elusive. 0:16:14.240 --> 0:16:17.760 But there have been some more recent studies that aim 0:16:17.840 --> 0:16:21.160 to learn more about them, including a collaboration between Oregon 0:16:21.200 --> 0:16:25.080 State University, the hoop Up Valley Tribe, Penn State, and 0:16:25.200 --> 0:16:28.360 cow Poly Humboldt. And some of the newer information that 0:16:28.360 --> 0:16:30.960 they have about them is how they carefully select tree 0:16:31.000 --> 0:16:34.840 hollows from older trees to take naps in uh to 0:16:34.880 --> 0:16:38.360 stay safe from bad weather. And to occasionally groom each other. 0:16:39.080 --> 0:16:44.040 They're cute. Yeah, it's very cute. They also sometimes make 0:16:44.080 --> 0:16:47.840 their homes and abandoned mine shafts, which is it's like 0:16:48.120 --> 0:16:53.560 they're not they're not acts, they're not beating the little 0:16:53.760 --> 0:16:59.800 the cobald hobgoblin allegations. Oh my god. So yeah, because 0:17:00.120 --> 0:17:03.720 because they're so dependent on trees, loss of habitats such 0:17:03.720 --> 0:17:08.280 as old growth oak woodlands would threaten their population. Apparently, 0:17:08.320 --> 0:17:11.960 this past year in Arizona, ringtails have been rescued at 0:17:12.040 --> 0:17:18.320 higher rates due to suburban sprawl and hot weather. Because 0:17:18.359 --> 0:17:20.920 they like nooks and crannies and trees, they'll sometimes try 0:17:20.960 --> 0:17:23.480 to find the same resources in human structures, so they'll 0:17:23.520 --> 0:17:26.240 get stuck in our attics, our walls, plumbing, our cars. 0:17:27.000 --> 0:17:32.840 There's this article at kj's ez Phoenix with a photo 0:17:32.880 --> 0:17:36.760 of the saddest little ringtail I've ever seen. He's damp 0:17:36.840 --> 0:17:39.120 from being bathed a bunch of times because he got 0:17:39.160 --> 0:17:45.440 stuck in a tortilla factory's oil transfer to No. Yeah, 0:17:45.480 --> 0:17:48.679 he's just try and get some tortillas. He gots stuck. 0:17:49.480 --> 0:17:50.320 He's so cute. 0:17:50.400 --> 0:17:52.840 He's so cute. Apparently it was pretty touch and go 0:17:52.920 --> 0:17:56.280 with him. He did survive, but they're like, yeah he has. 0:17:56.680 --> 0:18:00.200 He was covered in tortilla grease and poor. 0:18:00.280 --> 0:18:04.440 Okay you you and me too, brother, Okay. Some days 0:18:04.520 --> 0:18:08.160 it's just like that, all right, and just. 0:18:10.400 --> 0:18:13.679 You know, yeah, I mean it's it's very cute and 0:18:13.760 --> 0:18:16.680 it's a very sad, funny little story and it's it's 0:18:16.760 --> 0:18:18.600 it's good because it had a good ending because he 0:18:18.840 --> 0:18:21.359 did get rescued, but it is it does emphasize the 0:18:21.359 --> 0:18:26.320 importance that they keep their habitat because they just they 0:18:26.440 --> 0:18:29.120 they they like go on a tube, right, thinking it's 0:18:29.160 --> 0:18:33.159 gonna be a tree, and then it's full of tortilla grease, delicious, 0:18:33.280 --> 0:18:34.560 deadly tortilla grease. 0:18:35.119 --> 0:18:37.240 I worry, but I want your perspective. But I worry 0:18:37.240 --> 0:18:40.480 about this so much. Like I've been seeing coyote coyotes 0:18:41.000 --> 0:18:45.240 or yeah, coyotes in my neighborhood more, and I feel 0:18:45.280 --> 0:18:48.480 like they're that urban sprawl thing where we're just like 0:18:48.560 --> 0:18:52.400 impeding on their environment, is like really messing them up, 0:18:52.480 --> 0:18:55.160 like and that's for sure for our pets. Like no, 0:18:55.240 --> 0:18:57.000 I'm so worried about it. 0:18:57.000 --> 0:18:59.560 It's it's very concerning, yeah, for sure. Like one of 0:18:59.560 --> 0:19:02.720 the like coyotes are much more likely to go after 0:19:03.400 --> 0:19:06.760 your pets, your little dogs or cats when they are 0:19:07.200 --> 0:19:10.399 when they're when they don't have enough sort of ample 0:19:10.480 --> 0:19:15.040 resources in their own habitat, enough rabbits and other rodents 0:19:15.119 --> 0:19:18.640 to feed on, and then they'll come in and then 0:19:18.880 --> 0:19:21.399 people like really hate them. But they're just you know, 0:19:21.520 --> 0:19:23.520 they're just trying to they're just trying to live. They 0:19:23.520 --> 0:19:24.600 don't they don't. 0:19:24.680 --> 0:19:26.920 Make it in the city like the rest of us Acholizin, 0:19:27.280 --> 0:19:27.480 you know. 0:19:28.040 --> 0:19:31.120 They don't. I know that all one eating a beloved pet. 0:19:31.880 --> 0:19:34.080 I saw one go after a cat. It didn't get it, 0:19:34.119 --> 0:19:36.480 but I was like, we gotta get these cats off 0:19:36.480 --> 0:19:39.639 the streets. And these coyotes, yeah, after their environment, Like 0:19:39.800 --> 0:19:40.720 what is going on? 0:19:40.920 --> 0:19:46.159 If coyotes live around you or birds, it's probably a 0:19:46.160 --> 0:19:50.000 good idea to keep the kitties inside. I'm gonna say, hot, Yeah, 0:19:50.080 --> 0:19:53.640 kitties they will be you can entertain them with attention. 0:19:54.280 --> 0:19:55.360 They they will survive. 0:19:56.400 --> 0:20:00.200 Also, like the you know how we're always like, oh, 0:20:00.240 --> 0:20:03.320 humans weren't meant to see the Internet, Like our brains 0:20:03.359 --> 0:20:06.040 aren't meant for this. I don't think the things that 0:20:06.080 --> 0:20:09.240 we've done to animals, like the animals' brains aren't meant 0:20:09.240 --> 0:20:12.439 to meet each other, you know, like like some of 0:20:12.480 --> 0:20:15.680 these creatures are not meant to interact ever, and they do, 0:20:15.760 --> 0:20:17.479 and they're like, do I eat this? 0:20:17.720 --> 0:20:20.919 What is this? You know? Yeah? Crazy? No, absolutely, And 0:20:20.960 --> 0:20:26.000 I mean obviously it also increases chance of zoonotic diseases 0:20:26.440 --> 0:20:29.679 jumping from species to species. Yet it's very it's incredibly 0:20:29.680 --> 0:20:34.840 important to maintain and preserve the habitats of these animals both. 0:20:35.000 --> 0:20:37.600 I mean there's a lot of reasons. Number one, they 0:20:37.600 --> 0:20:42.040 are devastatingly cute. Look this little guy and the eyes all. 0:20:42.080 --> 0:20:47.200 I'll provide the pictures in the show, the little one 0:20:47.240 --> 0:20:51.040 that got stuck in the tortilla factory grease trap, Like 0:20:51.320 --> 0:20:53.520 he's so sad. 0:20:55.040 --> 0:21:01.120 And makes his eyes look bigger. Yeah, boots picture where 0:21:01.240 --> 0:21:02.760 like they z into the eyes. 0:21:02.960 --> 0:21:06.720 Sorry this out. Send it to your congress person and say, really, 0:21:06.760 --> 0:21:10.200 we're getting rid of National Park staff when these little 0:21:10.240 --> 0:21:12.720 guys are getting stuck in tortilla factories. 0:21:13.800 --> 0:21:16.560 But it's the congress people will immediately try to make 0:21:16.600 --> 0:21:18.800 them pets. I'm just like so cynical. 0:21:20.520 --> 0:21:23.000 I thought you were gonna say, like Corrolla de Ville 0:21:23.040 --> 0:21:23.920 style like that. 0:21:24.119 --> 0:21:28.000 Too is going to walk around with these fringing boots 0:21:28.080 --> 0:21:31.080 on with these tails just. 0:21:31.040 --> 0:21:35.720 Like just like a oh god, yeah, you know, well 0:21:36.520 --> 0:21:40.720 they're ghoules, but hey, there are still good people out 0:21:40.720 --> 0:21:46.320 there rescuing these these little ringtail cats from tortilla factories. 0:21:46.600 --> 0:21:48.120 So we're going to take a quick break and when 0:21:48.119 --> 0:21:52.720 we get back, we're going to talk about another fantastic 0:21:52.920 --> 0:21:57.520 animal that you can find in the national parks. So 0:21:57.800 --> 0:22:01.160 pull a b We're talking about big horn and thin 0:22:01.240 --> 0:22:06.160 horn sheep. Uh. These are one of the bigger animals 0:22:06.160 --> 0:22:11.479 that you can find in North American national parks, and 0:22:11.520 --> 0:22:14.679 they are pretty incredible. So there are two species of 0:22:14.800 --> 0:22:18.400 mountain sheep, the big horn sheep and then the thin 0:22:18.520 --> 0:22:22.680 horn or doll sheep, and they're both really beautiful animals. 0:22:22.880 --> 0:22:23.800 So majestic. 0:22:24.040 --> 0:22:27.560 They are so majestic that they're they're like very iconic. 0:22:28.960 --> 0:22:32.640 The big horn sheep have the males have these incredible, 0:22:33.080 --> 0:22:36.200 like what do you think horns on their heads that 0:22:36.400 --> 0:22:40.760 are massive and heavy. So, uh, first I'll talk a 0:22:40.800 --> 0:22:44.960 little bit about the doll sheep. They are found in 0:22:45.000 --> 0:22:47.960 the Dnali National Park in the US. They're also found 0:22:48.000 --> 0:22:49.160 in Canada and Nali. 0:22:49.840 --> 0:22:51.320 Yeah, keeping the name. 0:22:51.359 --> 0:22:56.040 You know what, I have a very selfishly sentimental connection 0:22:56.119 --> 0:22:59.199 to the name Danali, which is this is this is 0:22:59.280 --> 0:23:02.520 super like when I was a little kid, there was 0:23:02.560 --> 0:23:05.000 an ice cream called Denali. I was like, why is 0:23:05.040 --> 0:23:09.199 it called Denali? Because it was super good? And then 0:23:09.240 --> 0:23:11.320