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Speaker 3: Jason.

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Speaker 2: How you doing, man, how's your early fourth of July

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Speaker 2: weekend going?

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Speaker 4: Everything going good over there?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty good. We've had some storms the last few

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Speaker 3: days here that have been rough. A lot of people

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Speaker 3: have been without power. Last night there was a rough storm.

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Speaker 3: This afternoon, there was a rough storm yesterday. The heat

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Speaker 3: So it's uh, it is. It is not really a

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Speaker 3: great time to be outside of the last few days.

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Speaker 3: But all right, come Monday and hopefully the fourth is

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Speaker 3: gonna stay good. And I think it might be the

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Speaker 3: first time my daughter actually goes into a swimming pool,

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Speaker 3: so that's gonna be fun.

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Speaker 2: Okay, busy weekend. Good luck to her. Yeah, it is

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Speaker 2: warm here, but nothing like in the South. I was

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Speaker 2: talking to buddy who lives in Little Rock and they

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Speaker 2: were at like one seventeen on Thursday. So yeah, to

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Speaker 2: all of our people there in the southeast portion of

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Speaker 2: the country, stay cool, stay hydrated, all that good stuff.

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Speaker 2: It is a crazy time, you know, it's crazy time.

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Speaker 2: It's a fun time. A lot of people traveling. I

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Speaker 2: know a lot of people are listening into in their

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Speaker 2: cars while they're driving around tonight. So thank you for

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Speaker 2: making us a part of your evening. And Jason, I

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Speaker 2: want to start, you know, I mean, listen, it goes

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Speaker 2: without saying this time of year, in what we do,

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Speaker 2: it is always NBA free agency. And it's funny because,

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Speaker 2: you know, coming on last week, we were obviously on

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Speaker 2: the heels of a Bradley Beal trade, a Marcus Smart trade,

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Speaker 2: and he kind of looked at you know, Chris Paul

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Speaker 2: obviously got moved, et cetera, and you kind of looked

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Speaker 2: at the slew of free agents that we're going to

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Speaker 2: be available, and I'll be honest, I thought there was

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Speaker 2: a chance that it could be pretty underwhelming. Instead it's

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Speaker 2: been the exact opposite. It's been a crazy couple days.

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Speaker 2: But obviously the mega, mega megapiece of news broke about

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Speaker 2: I don't know, probably about nine ten am Eastern time today,

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Speaker 2: and that was that. As de Seger just told you,

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Speaker 2: Damian Lillard, the long national nightmare is over. Will he

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Speaker 2: be traded? Will he not be traded? Will he ask

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Speaker 2: for a trade? What makes sense? What doesn't make sense?

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Speaker 2: Does he want to leave? Does he want to be

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Speaker 2: the bad guy? Does the Portland Trailblazers want to be.

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Speaker 4: The bad guy? Well?

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Speaker 2: I don't think anybody's a bad guy here. I think

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Speaker 2: this is a situation that has just run its course.

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Speaker 2: But Damian Lillard earlier today demanded a trade. Everybody on

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Speaker 2: the network has been talking about it all day. Where

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Speaker 2: were you and what were you doing, Jason, when you

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Speaker 2: find out that Damian Lillard is finally ready to move

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Speaker 3: I don't know what I was doing. I mean, I

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Speaker 3: think we kind of we sort of saw this coming

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Speaker 3: last week ish, and maybe it's been building for a

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Speaker 3: lot longer than that. But more than anything, I think

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Speaker 3: that Damian Lillard is tired of un ball and it'll

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Speaker 3: a lot in common with Jimmy Butler in that there

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Speaker 3: And Damian Lillard is the kind of player. He gave

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Speaker 3: you everything he had, but then he would get to

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Speaker 3: he would just look spent by the second one. He

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Speaker 3: maybe Damian Lewis wants a little bit of an easier path,

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Speaker 3: As much as he wanted to stay home, as much

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Speaker 3: sure after watching and being a part of this past season, Aaron,

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Speaker 3: it's time to also let the franchise move on, because

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Speaker 3: you become almost an albatross for them if you continue

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was interesting, you know, even after the trade

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Speaker 2: demand came in the GM of the Portland Trailblazers, Joe

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Speaker 2: Cronin kind of put out a statement basically saying, we

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Speaker 2: have been clear that we want Dame here, but he

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Speaker 2: funny because, you know, the conversations that we've had with

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Speaker 2: like Marcus said repeatedly, is nobody wants to be the

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Speaker 2: office is trying to quote unquote not be the bad guy.

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Speaker 4: And my big takeaway is there is no bad guy.

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Speaker 3: There is.

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Speaker 4: Like if you know, when we talked about.

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Speaker 2: This last week, Jason, if Dame did want to stay,

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Speaker 2: with one team, I would not have criticized him for it.

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Speaker 4: Some guys just they're happy where they are.

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Speaker 2: They want to build a legacy, they've built a community,

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Speaker 2: they their kids are in school, whatever reason it is.

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Speaker 2: I don't blame anybody that wants to do it. But

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Speaker 2: I think your point is the most important one is

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Speaker 2: at this point it's not only about Dame Lillard and

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Speaker 2: his legacy and Kenny win a ring and what would

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Speaker 2: it mean and blah blah blah. It's also about the

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Speaker 2: fact that the Portland Trailblazers are at a different point

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Speaker 2: as an organization then Damian Lillard is as a player.

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Speaker 2: It's time they're ready to move on. Obviously, we talked

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Speaker 2: was a three player draft. It's not you know, there

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Speaker 2: there's this it still feels like there's this public back

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Speaker 2: I don't think there is a bad guy. I think

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Speaker 2: it's just time for everybody to move on. And with that, Jason,

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Speaker 2: I do want to move on to to this part,

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Speaker 2: which is that it appears as though, so this is interesting.

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Speaker 2: Damian Lillard, unlike Bradley Beal, does not have a no

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Speaker 2: trade clause. And one other thing that the Portland Trailblazers

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Speaker 2: and we're gonna do and this is a direct quote

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Speaker 2: for the team in pursuit of that goal. So Damian

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Speaker 2: Loward a few weeks ago comes out and says, if

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Speaker 2: And Miami appears as though they will be a team

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Speaker 2: according to multiple reports, potentially a Los Angeles Clippers. Do

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Speaker 2: do you have a hope for where he ends up next?

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Speaker 2: Because I think this one's a little bit different than

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Speaker 2: I think a lot of us speculated. The Blazers appear,

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Speaker 2: even though Dame is an icon in that organization, that

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Speaker 2: they are going to do what's best for them, not

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Speaker 2: necessarily what's best for Dame. I hope they're able to

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Speaker 2: But do you have any thoughts on where Dame could

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Speaker 3: Not necessarily. I know that they value, based on wells

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Speaker 3: they value young talent that they can build around. Now

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Speaker 3: you mentioned they drafted Scoot Henderson. That felt like the

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Speaker 3: writing was on the wall. They at least were planning

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Speaker 3: Miami has some young guys that he merged in the

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Speaker 3: back half the season and in the playoffs, somes like that.

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Speaker 3: Maybe that's enticing. I don't think they're going out to

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Speaker 3: kind of look at it from that perspective and say, well,

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Speaker 3: which team at that point fits the bill? You look

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Speaker 3: if you draft Scoot Henderson, you're not taking a Tyrese Maxi.

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Speaker 3: For example, the Clippers are an old team with weird

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Speaker 2: You don't You don't think, I mean, because there were

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Speaker 2: reports today that the Trailblazers would covet a package highlighting

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Speaker 2: Tyrese Maxie more than they would Tyler Hero, who would

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean I would agree in theory on that,

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Speaker 3: I guess I would just say, well, I don't know,

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Speaker 3: it would just it would depend to me on whether

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Speaker 3: and maybe there is. And we know what Maxie is

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Speaker 3: and the fact that the Sixers didn't give him the

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Speaker 3: because he didn't earn the money, but because it's gonna

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Speaker 3: then they were gonna address it next year. Then maybe

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Speaker 3: that opens the door for that move to be there

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Speaker 3: the Clippers. I need to go look at the roster again,

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Speaker 3: but I don't see. I know they're interested, but they

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Speaker 3: see they're being interested on the flip side there.

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Speaker 2: Let me jump in on that really quick, because the

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Speaker 2: reports on Dame Lollard's trade request and the teams that

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Speaker 2: could be interested did come out before or Russell Westbrook

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Speaker 2: resigned today with the Los Angeles Clippers. So again we'll

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Speaker 2: have Mark Medina on in an hour to speculate does

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Speaker 2: that mean anything in the pursuit of Dame Lillard. But

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Speaker 2: I did want to reference that as well, because you know,

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Speaker 2: throughout the four hours of this show, Jason, A lot

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Speaker 2: of stuff is changing really quick. So I didn't mean

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Speaker 4: I think it's a great analogy.

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Speaker 2: D'Angelo Russell do those Tuesday nights in Charlotte, those Wednesday

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Speaker 2: nights in San Antonio, those Thursday nights. Whatever, You're playing

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Speaker 2: the Blazers without Dame Lillard, last place team, and Lebron

439
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Speaker 2: needs a night off. Lebron can't travel. Anthony Davis, you know,

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Speaker 2: is not gonna play eighty games. So I like bringing

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Speaker 2: back D'Angelo Russell, and I like what this team has done.

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Speaker 2: And as I told Jason before the break, I think

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Speaker 2: you're looking now at the NBA next year and I'll

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Speaker 2: be blunting. I know, going into the season or even

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Speaker 2: into the playoffs, it felt like it's Milwaukee and it's

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Speaker 2: Boston and it's everybody else. Well, first of all, we

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Speaker 2: found out that's not true. Second of all, Boston has

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Speaker 2: obviously switched gears and made some changes and done a

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Speaker 2: few different things, bringing in poor zengis getting rid of

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Speaker 2: Marcus Smart whatever. I don't think if I don't know

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Speaker 2: if Boston's a real contender next year. Milwaukee, they got

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Speaker 2: a lot to prove after losing in the first round

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Speaker 2: of the playoffs. The Nuggets return basically everybody except for

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Speaker 2: Bruce Brown. But I bring it up because when I

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Speaker 2: look at this Lakers team, a team that, yes, I

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Speaker 2: understand that in the Western Conference Finals it wasn't they

457
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Speaker 2: got swept, But go back and look at those games.

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Speaker 2: Game four they lose one to thirteen, to one to eleven.

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Speaker 2: Game Game two they lose by five. Three of the

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Speaker 2: four losses were by six points or less. And so

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Speaker 2: I bring it up because, listen, we can talk about

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Speaker 2: how great the Nuggets are, and they're awesome, and Jason

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Speaker 2: and I talked about this a few weeks ago. I

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Speaker 2: think the Nuggets are built not only for next year,

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Speaker 2: but they're really built to have a nice five six

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Speaker 2: year run here. But this is the NBA. Stuff happens.

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Speaker 2: Ankles get twisted, you know, look at the box, look

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Speaker 2: at whoever. It's a crazy sport, a crazy situation. Once

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Speaker 2: you get to the playoffs, stuff happens. And so because

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Speaker 2: of it, I feel like the Lakers were as close

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Speaker 2: to anybody as the Nuggets. And I don't think you

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Speaker 2: can assume that just because the Nuggets are awesome, and

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Speaker 2: just because they wont it this year, and just because

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Speaker 2: Jokich and Murray are entering their prime, that they're gonna

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Speaker 2: be there forever. And so I look at these Los

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Speaker 2: Angeles Lakers and I sit there and say, listen, this

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Speaker 2: is a team that I think is built to compete

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Speaker 2: with the Denver Nuggets and potentially if something goes wrong

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Speaker 2: in Denver next year, top of the Nuggets. Fox Sports Radio,

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Speaker 2: Aaron Torres, Jason Martin here on a Saturday night come

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Speaker 2: back talk about the big story in the NFL. Before

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Speaker 2: we do that, let's toss it over the newsst first

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Speaker 2: time this evening to saga, what's up?

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Speaker 10: Hello, gentlemen. We will have NBA news in a minim

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Speaker 10: At first off, the Dodgers are in Kansas City tonight.

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Speaker 10: This is on Fox TV for part of the country.

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Speaker 10: It had a near hour and a half rang delay.

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Speaker 3: At the beginning.

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Speaker 4: They're going now.

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Speaker 10: Mookie bats grounded out in the fourth. This is news

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Speaker 10: because it snapped a streak of fifteen straight plate appearances

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Speaker 10: without having a hitless at bat. In that long stretch,

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Speaker 10: he had six walks, two sackflies, and went seven for seven.

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Speaker 10: Actually was retired on a ground out here. During this game,

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Speaker 10: the Dodger starting pitcher just off the injured list, Julio Arias,

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Speaker 10: gave up three early bloopers five runs in the first.

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Speaker 10: He went three innings. Kansas City's lead now five to

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Speaker 10: three over La top of the sixth inning, long rain

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Speaker 10: delay at the start at Wrigley Field, Cubs and Guardians

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Speaker 10: now in the top of the third scoreless, a rain

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Speaker 10: out at Saint Louis last night's and rain delays during

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Speaker 10: Game one of the twin Deal today, they did finally

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Speaker 10: finish Game one Saint Louis eleven to four over the Yankees.

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Speaker 10: Yanks are winning the nightcap three to two over the

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Speaker 10: Cardinals in the bottom of the seventh, Tigers at Colorado

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Speaker 10: scoreless bottom of the fifth, and the late game has

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Speaker 10: the Angels and Diamondbacks scoreless bottom of the second. Minnesota

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Speaker 10: sent Baltimore to a fourth straight loss one nothing. Seattle

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Speaker 10: defeated Tampa Bay and pitcher Tyler Last now eight three.

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Speaker 10: Glass Now did have eleven strikeouts in five and two

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Speaker 10: third innings. Oakland won in ten innings. Braves won their

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Speaker 10: seventh in a row Philadelphia nineteen to four over Washington.

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Speaker 10: Wins for San Diego and Milwaukee. The Reds are tied

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Speaker 10: with the Brewers for first in the NL Central after

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Speaker 10: these results today, Tampa Bay's Randy A. Rosarina says he

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Speaker 10: will be in this month's home run derby.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 10: The NBA's free agency period started last night. News still

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Speaker 10: coming this evening. First off, the Trailblazers guard Damian Lillard, yes,

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Speaker 10: did request a trade, a guy who's averaged twenty five

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Speaker 10: points and seven assists per game over his eleven seasons

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Speaker 10: in Portland. Last year was thirty two points a game

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Speaker 10: and seven assists. The Blazers just drafted guard Scoot Henderson.

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Speaker 10: The Hornets will give guard LaMelo Ball a five year

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Speaker 10: extension for the rookie maximum. The Lakers resigned D'Angelo Russell

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Speaker 10: and Austin Reeves and signed center Jackson Hayes from New Orleans.

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Speaker 10: The Clippers resigned Russell Westbrook one year plus a player option,

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Speaker 10: and the Clip trading for kJ Martin from Houston. Milwaukee

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Speaker 10: resigned center Brook Lopez and resigned Jay Crowder. Orlando resigned

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Speaker 10: Mo Wagner do a two year deal. Cleveland acquired Max

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Speaker 10: Struce ex of Miami. Houston will sign Dylan Brooks from Memphis.

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Speaker 10: The Rockets are close to acquiring veteran guard Patty Mills

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Speaker 10: from the Nets. Brooklyn is signing Dennis Smith. The Pacers

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Speaker 10: will trade for Obi Toppin from the Knicks. And New

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Speaker 10: York tonight is signing guard Dante DiVincenzo four years, fifty

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Speaker 10: million dollars. That will reunite him with Jalen Brunson and

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Speaker 10: Josh Hart, those Villanova teammates all with New York.

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Speaker 2: Back to you, Dante DiVincenzo. The Michael Jordan of Delaware,

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Speaker 2: that was his nickname. Also, what was it the Big

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Speaker 2: Linguini or something like that. That was a Gus Johnson.

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Speaker 2: I think it was the Big the Big Ragou I

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Speaker 2: believe was what Gus Johnson called him on all those

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Speaker 2: big Eiast calls.

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Speaker 4: Also, the Michael Jordan of Delaware. Yes, that was a

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Speaker 4: real nickname.

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Speaker 10: Why didn't you just call yourself big Fish? Mall pond

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Speaker 10: that pretty well?

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean he was.

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Speaker 2: I mean I don't have like a the fifty greatest

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Speaker 2: players from Delaware, you know, easily accessible.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure I could find it somewhere on the dark web.

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Speaker 10: But they were just talking about Devincenzo's minor league baseball career,

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Speaker 10: right how he was the Jordan of Delaware.

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Speaker 2: No, they were talking about actual basket being the best

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Speaker 2: player in basketball. By the way, I think we have

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Speaker 2: Jason Martin back. I do have one quick funny Dante

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Speaker 2: DiVincenzo story. Twenty sixteen Final four. That was the year

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Speaker 2: that Villanova beat North Carolina at the Buzzer and he

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Speaker 2: was redshirting that year, but went into the locker room

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Speaker 2: postgame availability to say, I know, you've covered a lot

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Speaker 2: of these events, and all the players are available, National Championship.

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Speaker 2: Everybody's got a hat, and I see this guy in

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Speaker 2: the corner in a suit, and so I just go

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Speaker 2: talk to him and I was like, hey, man, you know,

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Speaker 2: how do you feel, you know, try to get some

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Speaker 2: interesting quote about whatever. And that was the year they

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Speaker 2: had Archie Dionacano and all those guys. So Chris Jenkins, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Chris Jenkins, Yeah, that feels like an important piece. I said,

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Speaker 2: oh yeah, man, so gives me quotes. I'm like, what's

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Speaker 2: your name. He's like Dante, Dante DiVincenzo. I was like, oh,

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Speaker 2: to meet you. I was like, so, are you like

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Speaker 2: a manager. He's like, no, no, I'm on the team.

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Speaker 2: He's like I'm on the team. And I was like, oh,

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Speaker 2: like a walk on and he's like, no, I'm on scholarship.

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Speaker 2: I just red shirted and then fifty million dollars later, well,

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Speaker 2: two years later he was the final four MVP. And

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Speaker 2: so that's an important lesson for all the young journalists

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Speaker 2: out there. Never presume when you go into a locker

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Speaker 2: room anything, and also do your homework before if you

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Speaker 2: talk to somebody.

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Speaker 10: Meanwhile, you had Fred van Vliet, who I think was

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Speaker 10: eligible to play nine years for which to state when

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Speaker 10: he finally got into the NBA. There was a stat

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Speaker 10: from AP last night his first year salary in the

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Speaker 10: NBA was five hundred thousand dollars.

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Speaker 4: Last pick in the draft.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, last night he signed for five hundred thousand dollars

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Speaker 10: per game for the next three years.

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Speaker 2: He's a great example. I'll say this really quick, ause

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Speaker 2: I want to get to the NFL, Like all these

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Speaker 2: guys think like, oh, it's so easy to you know,

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Speaker 2: just like I'm gonna get draft. Like the NBA draft

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Speaker 2: comes around, you think it's so easy. If you get

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Speaker 2: draft in the second round, you get all these opportunities.

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Speaker 2: He was a low last pick in the draft and

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Speaker 2: he was the last player on the Ross raft. Forget

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Speaker 2: what it was, but they had one roster spot and

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Speaker 2: then he evolves into a star, wins an NBA title.

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Speaker 2: Now he's signing a contract for whatever. But it's like

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Speaker 2: what a lot of people don't realize. A lot of

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Speaker 2: times a team will have if there's fifteen roster spots

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Speaker 2: or whatever, they'll have sixteen seventeen guys under contract. And

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Speaker 2: so if you're a second round pick, it's like all

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Speaker 2: these guys coming out of college thing, well, I'll be

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Speaker 2: a second round pick, I'll make the team. I'll figure

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Speaker 2: outteed not guaranteed. And so he's one of the exceptions.

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Speaker 2: There are so many good players that just never get

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Speaker 2: a shot. And he was literally the last pick in

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Speaker 2: the draft, literally the last roster spot available, and now

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Speaker 2: he's signing for whatever in Houston.

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Speaker 4: That's a great story, all right.

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio eron towards Jason Martin, So, Jason, listen,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna have Bernie Fratto on in a couple hours,

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Speaker 2: and he's gonna give us a lot of good intel

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Speaker 2: on this. I don't want to spend a ton of

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Speaker 2: time on this because I don't feel like there's a

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Speaker 2: lot of new ground to cover. But we had yet

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Speaker 2: another twist in kind of this NFL gambling scandal this week. Now,

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Speaker 2: some of this news had previously come out, but three

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Speaker 2: players suspended indefinitely for betting on the NFL, including Isaiah

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Speaker 2: Rodgers and a former member of the Indianapolis Colts who

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Speaker 2: bet on his own team. There was also a player

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Speaker 2: from the Tennessee Titans, Nicholas Pierre for for te t

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Speaker 2: FORTI fare, Okay, yes I should have. I actually did

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Speaker 2: not have it up and I kind of had lived

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Speaker 2: on his name there, so forgive me. But he was

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Speaker 2: also suspended for something that we talked about previously, and

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Speaker 2: this was to do with the Detroit Lions scandal from

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Speaker 2: a few months ago. Is he bet on a game?

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Speaker 2: He bet on sports in the facility, but it was

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Speaker 2: not the NFL. So I bring it up to say

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Speaker 2: that I remember having this conversation with you a year

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Speaker 2: and a half ago when the Calvin Ridley stuff broke.

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Speaker 2: As I said, it's unfortunate, but hopefully this will be

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Speaker 2: a learning lesson for a lot of these guys that

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Speaker 2: you just have to be careful with betting in this

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Speaker 2: world where the NFL is getting so much money from

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Speaker 2: sports gambling companies. So real quick, were you surprised disappointed?

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Speaker 2: What was your takeaway from this week with this NFL scandal?

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Speaker 2: Because as as disappointing as it is, I don't really

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Speaker 2: find it all that surprising.

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Speaker 4: I really don't.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't say I was surprised at all. And I

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Speaker 3: think that the thing that's happening for me is I'm

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Speaker 3: getting less interested in it, agreed. And the reason why

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Speaker 3: is because I think that it's time to just go

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Speaker 3: ahead and make these rules clear to these guys you

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Speaker 3: see to be all or nothing. Look, if you play

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Speaker 3: in the NFL, you don't gamble period on sports, on

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Speaker 3: on site, off site apps, anything else unless you're in

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Speaker 3: a casino and you're playing blackjack cards something like that.

652
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Speaker 3: You don't gamble as long as you're an active player.

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Speaker 3: If that's the rule that you want institute, because there's

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Speaker 3: so many of these little deals, like Look, if you

655
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Speaker 3: were betting on NFL games last season, like Isaiah Rodgers

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Speaker 3: and Masha Berry and Demetrius Taylor were doing. If you're

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Speaker 3: betting on the NFL and you're playing in the NFL,

658
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Speaker 3: that's just stupid and you're gonna pay the dumb tacks.

659
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 3: And a few of those guys got released. But if

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Speaker 3: you're Nicholas petite Frere and you get suspended six games

661
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 3: for betting, on other sports at the workplace. And I

662
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 3: remember reading an article a few weeks ago that this

663
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Speaker 3: could have been any of us. There was like anonymous

664
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Speaker 3: players in the athletic that were basically saying, look, this

665
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 3: could have been any of us. I didn't know that rule.

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00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 3: I know a lot of guys that have done that.

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00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 3: You know that kind of thing is being said. So

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00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 3: it's the specifics of this that make me less interested

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Speaker 3: in it. I don't think these guys need to be

670
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 3: walked through the town shame. Shame, shame. As the NFL

671
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 3: is collecting, you know, massive roles of cash out of wells,

672
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 3: fargo trucks basically from gambling sites and they're gambling into

673
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Speaker 3: buildings and all this other stuff, like just say you

674
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Speaker 3: can't do it. You just can't gamble on anything sports

675
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 3: related as long as you're an active player. If that's

676
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 3: the rule that you want to institute, make it cut

677
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 3: and dry, don't give a bunch of caveats or just

678
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 3: don't do it. He but you can do it here,

679
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 3: you're just asking for it. This is just this isn't

680
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 3: why we I mean, we want the best players on

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Speaker 3: the field, We want all the players on the field.

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Speaker 3: We don't want guys put in situations where they're doing

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Speaker 3: dumb things. I understand that you have to take personal responsibility,

684
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Speaker 3: but at the same time I'm shrugging my shoulders because

685
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 3: of just the kind of almost inherent hypocrisy of all

686
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Speaker 3: of this. If you're betting on other sports and that's

687
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 3: a problem, then you just shut down gambling, period and

688
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 3: make it super clear. It's like having a tax code

689
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 3: that's fifty pages long, as being surprised when people blow it.

690
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Speaker 3: But if you can get a tax code that's a

691
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Speaker 3: page long, everybody gets it. Make it simple that way,

692
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 3: these guys know exactly what they cannot do, and just

693
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 3: make it broad and sweeping and end it.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I sort of agree, but I sort of disagree. I

696
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Speaker 2: mean because I do think I get the whole concept. Well,

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Speaker 2: first of all, I understand the concept of integrity whatever.

698
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Speaker 2: But hey, guess what, you know, whatever percentage it is

699
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Speaker 2: of league revenue does go to the players. So if

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Speaker 2: you want to cut out the sport, you know, if

701
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Speaker 2: you want to cut out the sports market gambling marketing money,

702
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 2: then that's fine, But guys are gonna earn less money,

703
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Speaker 2: and I don't think anybody wants to earn less money.

704
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 2: I don't think anybody wants less money in their paychecks.

705
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Speaker 2: And so if that's the case, and if you are

706
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Speaker 2: going to keep taking sports gambling money, whatever percentage goes

707
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Speaker 2: to the players, you have to understand the rules and

708
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Speaker 2: you have to follow the rules. And I think you

709
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Speaker 2: know that's what even even excuse me, I'm trying to

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Speaker 2: find his name again, Petite Farreer said, is like, I

711
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Speaker 2: didn't know the rule. And I do agree with you

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Speaker 2: on that part. Is it's it's a little vague once

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Speaker 2: you get beyond the NFL. Like like my thing is,

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Speaker 2: if you're still betting on the NFL and you play

715
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Speaker 2: in the NFL, you're an idiot and you deserve to

716
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 2: never play again. I do agree that it is a

717
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Speaker 2: little bit vague for everything else. And I you know,

718
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Speaker 2: and again it's interesting because he bet on it on

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Speaker 2: the in the facility, But there's also if you go

720
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Speaker 2: back to the previous scandal or some of the previous scandals,

721
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 2: it's also anything team related, so team bus, team hotel,

722
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Speaker 2: team whatever. So I guess where I'm at, Jason. I'll

723
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Speaker 2: just say really quick because we do got to get

724
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Speaker 2: to some other stuff. Is like, I do hope that

725
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Speaker 2: over time, like guys figure it out. And I will say,

726
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Speaker 2: in a lot of ways, it does remind me a

727
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 2: little bit of like nil in college sports right now,

728
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Speaker 2: where it's kind of like just chaos and nobody really

729
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 2: knows what the rules are and eventually we hope it'll

730
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Speaker 2: get figured out. And I do think that's gonna happen

731
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Speaker 2: with this stuff. I do feel bad for the guys

732
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Speaker 2: that want to put twenty five bucks on a college

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Speaker 2: basketball game on a Tuesday or fifty bucks on an

734
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Speaker 2: NBA game on a Friday, and they somehow get.

735
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Speaker 4: In trouble for this.

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Speaker 2: But I will also say, you know, reading directly from

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Speaker 2: Nicholas Petite Ferrer's you know statement, he did say it,

738
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Speaker 2: you know, with this the betting I engaged in was

739
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Speaker 2: not NFL related and was legal under Tennessee law. It

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00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 2: is only not being sanctioned in the Titans facility. But

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Speaker 2: he said, I want to apologize to my coaches, teammates,

742
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Speaker 2: and the Titans fans. I've always strived in every stage

743
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Speaker 2: of my life to follow the rules. I did not

744
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Speaker 2: knowingly break the rules. Even after attending a league presentation,

745
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Speaker 2: I was unaware about the specific.

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Speaker 4: So I bring all that up to.

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Speaker 2: Say it was obviously referenced in a league presentation, and

748
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Speaker 2: I hope this is the last example of a guy

749
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 2: like this, I think, unintentionally breaking the rules. Again, if

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Speaker 2: you bet on the NFL, you deserve whatever punishment is

751
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,359
Speaker 2: coming to you. I hope these other rules are, as

752
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,799
Speaker 2: you said, better calorified and better explained, because I do

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Speaker 2: think it is a little vague. Fox Sports Radio eratrus

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Speaker 2: Jason Martin here on a Saturday night, coming up one

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Speaker 2: more NFL story. Travis Kelce with some interesting comments this week,

756
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Speaker 2: just a few days away from when he'll be in

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Speaker 2: the spotlight in the match.

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Speaker 4: We discussed that next Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody, Fox Sports Radio, Aeron Torris, Jason Martin

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Speaker 2: you know, even though we have quite a bit to

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00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 2: discuss h here on a Saturday night into Sunday, it

787
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 2: is a little bit of a slow time in terms

788
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 2: of actual on the field, on the court, on the

789
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:17,320
Speaker 2: whatever stuff I bring it up to say, this week

790
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 2: we are actually going to get something sports related that

791
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 2: isn't just Major League Baseball. As the match is set

792
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 2: to be played in a couple a couple of days,

793
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Speaker 2: Klay Thompson and Steph Curry versus Travis Kelsey and Patrick Mahomes.

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00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 2: My first question for you, I want to get to

795
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 2: some stuff that Travis Kelsey said earlier this week. But

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Speaker 2: I know you're a golf guy, I know you're an

797
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 2: NFL guy. I'm guessing you'll probably be plugged into this,

798
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Speaker 2: assuming you know the daughter and the timeframe and everything

799
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 2: work out, you'll be watching the match. I would guess right.

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Speaker 3: I might check in with it, but it doesn't interest

801
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 3: me that really. I like these guys too, Like, it's

802
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 3: not like these are guys I wouldn't be interested in watching.

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00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 3: It's just there's only so many hours in the day,

804
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 3: and this is an exhibition at the end, and if

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00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 3: there's anything relevant from it, I'll see it after the fact.

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00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 3: If something said, there'll be highlights, it'll be all over

807
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 3: the place. I might end up getting more interested in

808
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 3: it that I'm telling you right now. Maybe it does

809
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 3: end up kind of hooking me in. But I've actually

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Speaker 3: never really watched one of these at all, as a

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00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 3: matter of fact, not that I haven't been interested at all.

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Speaker 3: I just haven't been interested enough to like go out

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00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 3: of my way and sit down. I think I've turned

814
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 3: every one of them on at some point, but then

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Speaker 3: I've ended up moving on relatively quickly because it's just

816
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 3: it's just a bunch of it's famous athletes playing golf,

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Speaker 3: and I don't know that there's I mean, I'm not

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Speaker 3: trying to like burst your bubble on it or anything

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Speaker 3: like that, but it's just like, I don't I don't

820
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Speaker 3: need that necessarily. That's not like a necessity to me,

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Speaker 3: despite the fact, again, these are four guys I'm interested

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Speaker 3: to see to some degree, you know, what they say

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00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 3: and all this. But I think that if anything is

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00:38:55,960 --> 00:39:00,040
Speaker 3: really funny or really memorable, I'll see it immediately on

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00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 3: online and I won't have to sit there for four hours,

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00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 3: all right.

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Speaker 2: So I'm a little bit confused. It looks as though

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00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 2: it's already been played, but I don't think it airs.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's aired yet. I'm very confused. I

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Speaker 2: don't know it was aired already.

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Speaker 10: Thursday nights they put it TNT and a couple other

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Speaker 10: cable channels, and it was the least watched of the

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Speaker 10: seven exhibition golf.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm gonna go back. I'm gonna go back

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Speaker 3: now and say I don't think I'm gonna watch it.

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Speaker 10: For some reason, Kelsey did win. The Chiefs did win

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Speaker 10: three and two.

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Speaker 2: I thought, yeah, that's a little embarrassing. I'm not gonna

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Speaker 2: lie I For some reason, I thought that they were

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Speaker 2: like taping it. They had taped it, and then they

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Speaker 2: were airing it next week.

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Speaker 3: They should tape it and ran it.

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Speaker 4: They did, So the match was this week.

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Speaker 5: It was.

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Speaker 10: It was half the ratings of when Tom Brady was

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Speaker 10: golfing a year ago and they had this the match.

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Speaker 4: How about I just start this whole seven over Welcome

848
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 4: back Fox Sports Radio. No, I'm kidding. That was the

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00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 4: one year that I did watch it. Actually was the year.

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Speaker 2: It was during COVID when they did it and Barkley

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Speaker 2: wasnnouncing it and Tom Brady he hold out from like eighty.

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Speaker 3: I saw more of that one than any other one

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Speaker 3: that's happened, no question about it.

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Speaker 10: And then last year was Brady teaming with Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it was that the one where it was like

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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers first interview in like two months or two

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Speaker 2: summers ago.

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Speaker 3: There was one where every year.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I forget, I don't know whatever. So the celebrity

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Speaker 4: golf in Tahoe that might have been, that might have

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Speaker 4: been it.

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Speaker 2: I think that was it, all right, So real quick

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Speaker 2: with Travis Kelcey in a wide ranging interview with Vanity

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Speaker 2: Fair in the lead up to the match that was

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Speaker 2: played this week, that neither Jason and I watched. Definitely

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Speaker 2: a thing we knew. Definitely a thing that we knew.

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Speaker 2: We were just making sure everybody else. You know, it's

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00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 2: late at night, it's fourth of July weekend, everyone's had

869
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Speaker 2: a few drinks around the campfire.

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Speaker 4: Just making sure you're paying attention to the match. Okay.

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Speaker 2: So anyway, Travis Kelcey interesting quote talking about being quote

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Speaker 2: unquote underpaid and talked about his former teammate Tyreek Hill.

873
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 2: I saw Tyreek Hill go and get thirty million a year.

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00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 2: In the back of my head, I was like, man,

875
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Speaker 2: that's two to three times what I'm making right now.

876
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 2: I'm like, the free market looks like fun until you

877
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 2: go somewhere and you don't win. I love winning. I

878
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 2: love the situation I'm in. These quotes made headlines earlier

879
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 2: this week. Jason, I just love everything about it because

880
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 2: I do think there is something to like, Go get

881
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 2: your bag if that's what you want. But what is

882
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,840
Speaker 2: the conversation about Tyreek Hill right now? It's health of

883
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 2: two da da da of this and that. Where Travis Kelcey,

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00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 2: I mean, as long as he can stay healthy, he

885
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 2: set up to win.

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Speaker 3: Jason, Yeah, And look, the grass is not always greener

887
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 3: on the other side, despite how much more green you

888
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 3: might be getting on the other side. There are a

889
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 3: lot of indicators of guys that have left situations where

890
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 3: they were comfortable, made more money and were miserable. And

891
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 3: we've seen that in the NBA all the time. Look

892
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 3: at Travis Kelsey. Travis Kelly's winning. Kelsey is winning multiple

893
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 3: Super Bowls. He might be the greatest tight end to

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00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,359
Speaker 3: ever live. And he's not hurting for cash and he's

895
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 3: doing well with endorsements too. I love this. I think

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00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 3: he's making exactly the right commentary and more people should listen.

897
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Speaker 2: Well, speaking of somebody who never seems to be happy,

898
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 2: James Harden could be traded.

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Speaker 4: We'll discuss that next. Fox Sports.

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Speaker 2: lot of NBA Free agency to get to not only now,

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Speaker 2: but in twenty minutes from now. NBA insider Mark Medina

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Speaker 2: will join us with a lot of great insight. Excited

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00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 2: to talk about talk to Mark about everything that has

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Speaker 2: happened over the last couple of days in the NBA.

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Speaker 2: Jason One story that made headlines earlier in the week

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00:42:56,520 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 2: before free agency was a situation involving j James Harden,

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Speaker 2: fan favorite of Jason Martins. I must say, like I've

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00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 2: learned like a lot about you since we started working together.

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Speaker 3: Jason.

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Speaker 2: I would argue your disdain for James Harden is at

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Speaker 2: the top of the list of things that I've learned

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00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 2: about you. You seem like you're a pretty easygoing guy,

922
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 2: like there's not a lot of rage inside of you.

923
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 2: But before we even get to this week, am I wrong?

924
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:23,879
Speaker 2: It just feels like there's not a lot of things

925
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 2: that really get Jason Martin's blood boiling. But James Harden's

926
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 2: showing up out of shape, throwing his coaches under the

927
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 2: bus after he goes you know, four for nineteen or

928
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 2: whatever in a game seven. He's got to be on

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Speaker 2: the mount rushmore of Jason Martin's least favorite athletes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I think it's just because you've seen him do

931
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 3: so many special things, and then whenever it matters most,

932
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Speaker 3: whether it's a Game seven, whether it's a closeout game

933
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Speaker 3: against the Spurs when he was in Houston, whether it

934
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 3: was the NBA Finals, when he was in Oklahoma City,

935
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Speaker 3: wherever it is, he comes up small in the big

936
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 3: moments and he sits there and he sulks in his

937
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 3: body language is terrible nine times out of it. And

938
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Speaker 3: then you just hear people talk about how immaculate a

939
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 3: player he is, and oh, who wouldn't want James Harden? Okay? Who?

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Speaker 4: Okay?

941
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Speaker 2: So this is perfect and a perfect segue for what

942
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:12,800
Speaker 2: I want to talk about by now, the news that

943
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 2: he has opted into a contract which will then allow

944
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Speaker 2: the Philadelphia seventy six ers to trade for him to

945
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Speaker 2: trade him. Excuse me, that has been news for about

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Speaker 2: seventy two hours now, and some of the teams that

947
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:29,759
Speaker 2: are interested reportedly include the Los Angeles Clippers and the

948
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Speaker 2: New York Knicks. Worth noting, by the way, our buddy

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00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 2: Martin Weiss was filling in on the odd couple the

950
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,839
Speaker 2: other day and he said this third time in three

951
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Speaker 2: years that James Harden has effectively demanded a trade.

952
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Speaker 4: So I bring it up for this reason, Jason, I

953
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 4: was thinking about this this week.

954
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Speaker 2: Is that, you know, I saw the news and then

955
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 2: I saw all these media outlets, and by the way,

956
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Speaker 2: it's what we do. I'm not criticizing any other outlet

957
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Speaker 2: for covering this, but something struck me, Jason, I said

958
00:44:56,080 --> 00:45:01,360
Speaker 2: to myself, is there any athlete in all of sports

959
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 2: that we spend more time talking about that doesn't really

960
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 2: impact winning more than James Harder? Because here are the

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00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 2: indisputable facts about James Harden. Okay, never played in an

962
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Speaker 2: NBA finals, been to well, he played in NBA finals

963
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Speaker 2: as a sixth man. I apologize. So twenty twelve, he

964
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 2: was the sixth man for the Oklahoma City Thunder. So

965
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Speaker 2: I apologize, but this is the stat that stands out

966
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Speaker 2: to me. Has not made it out of the second

967
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Speaker 2: round of the playoffs since two thousy eighteen. That's two

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Speaker 2: teams ago for him. How about this Jason four teams

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00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 2: ago for his former teammate Chris Paul, who was on

970
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,799
Speaker 2: the court with him for most of that series until

971
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Speaker 2: Chris Paul pulled his hamstring in Game six. This is

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Speaker 2: a guy who has not made it out of the

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Speaker 2: second round of the playoffs in five years, in half

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Speaker 2: a decade.

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Speaker 4: And I was really thinking about this.

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Speaker 2: I was like, this would essentially be like if if

977
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Speaker 2: me and you spent all offseason talking about Mac Jones

978
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Speaker 2: or Tua or whatever, as if he was Joe Burrow

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Speaker 2: or Patrick Mahomes. The only other athlete I could think

980
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 2: of that I believe doesn't really impact winning but we

981
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 2: talk about him in a way that he does is

982
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 2: Dak Prescott, and that is because he is the quarterback

983
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Speaker 2: for probably the most famous franchise in North American sports.

984
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 2: Like Dak ishuy is at this point, He's not Burrow,

985
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Speaker 2: he's not Mahomes whatever.

986
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Speaker 4: But I can't think of another athlete like James Harden.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I get it. He won an MVP A long

988
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 2: time ago. He has a beard like he and I

989
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 2: get it. He has like those throwback games like Game

990
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 2: one against the Celtics this year where had forty whatever points,

991
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:46,240
Speaker 2: But he doesn't impact winning. If he goes to the Clippers,

992
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 2: I don't believe that fundamentally changes who they are next season.

993
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 2: Same with whoever trades for him. I sort of get

994
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 2: why people in our business cover him the way that

995
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:59,320
Speaker 2: they do, but I also sort of don't either. Like

996
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:01,439
Speaker 2: we have a five year track record, he doesn't impact winning.

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00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:02,399
Speaker 3: The floor is yours.

998
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 4: I just want to give it to you.

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00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 3: Jayson. Yeah, I mean that's true. I echo all of that.

1000
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 3: That's pretty much accurate. We know what he's what he's

1001
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 3: capable of, We've seen it. But it's the same way

1002
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 3: people continued to try and talk themselves into Cam Newton.

1003
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 3: Cam Newton won an MVP. Yeah, so did Joe Montana.

1004
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 3: But I'm not I don't need him on my team

1005
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 3: right now either, Like time has passed. The guy that

1006
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Speaker 3: you saw in Houston, who, by the way, still didn't

1007
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 3: get it done in the playoffs, with Chris Paul, with

1008
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:38,320
Speaker 3: Russell Westbrook, whoever you want to put in there, he

1009
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:40,320
Speaker 3: didn't get the job done, never made it to the finals,

1010
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 3: all that good stuff, regardless of the triple doubles, regardless

1011
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 3: of the step back, regardless of all that stuff, he

1012
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:48,319
Speaker 3: was still playing bad defense and they were still getting

1013
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,319
Speaker 3: knocked out of the playoffs. But you still I feel

1014
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 3: like he has talked about as if he just came

1015
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 3: off the MVP in Houston, and that's just not true.

1016
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Speaker 3: And not only is it not true, but it's to

1017
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 3: me the same way it was with Cam for a

1018
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 3: few years when it was time for to comeback with

1019
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 3: the Patriots or it was time to go back to

1020
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 3: the Panthers, Like, oh, you're gonna take a shot on

1021
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 3: Cam Newton because he'd looked good in the video on ESPN.

1022
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 3: Like I'm not rooting against Cam Newton, I'm not necessarily

1023
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 3: rooting against James Harden because I don't necessarily want to

1024
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 3: be right about somebody when I'm saying something critical. I

1025
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:21,320
Speaker 3: just said, I will never pick a team he plays

1026
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Speaker 3: for to win a championship while he's there. He's gonna

1027
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 3: have to actually do it once for me to think

1028
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 3: that it's even possible for him to do it, just

1029
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 3: because I have too much evidence to the contrary. But

1030
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Speaker 3: he's a guy that I get that. He's a star

1031
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 3: and NBA players are stars. He's a Hall of Famer

1032
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 3: as a matter of fact, He's also come up small

1033
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 3: repeatedly in big time moments. And I just look at it.

1034
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 3: It's just like that guy that was just such a

1035
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 3: lethal player six years ago. That was six years ago

1036
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 3: in Brooklyn, Nah, and in Philadelphia when they needed him. Nah.

1037
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 3: It's just whoever you go get that guy? What has

1038
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 3: it meant to the teams that have gone and acquired him?

1039
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 3: And so now it's like, well, where can Harden land?

1040
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:10,279
Speaker 3: Who can he help? I don't know quite frankly, I

1041
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 3: don't know who he can quote help unquote. I saw

1042
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 3: the Clippers mentioned I was just like, yeah, send him there.

1043
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 3: That that sounds great because I saw immediately that Kawhi

1044
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 3: and Paul George both were open to the idea of

1045
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 3: James Harden coming there. Well, you can go ahead and

1046
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 3: write them out of a championship too.

1047
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Speaker 2: I think we could probably write them out of the

1048
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Speaker 2: championship without James Hawarden. No, and and listen, I know

1049
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:32,880
Speaker 2: there's gonna probably be some pushback. I was gonna say,

1050
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 2: people might tweet in but you know Twitter's been broken

1051
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 2: all day, but that's neither here nor there.

1052
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:38,399
Speaker 4: Like I know, here's gonna be pushed back.

1053
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 2: Oh, he led the league in assists and blah blah

1054
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:42,800
Speaker 2: blah and this and that, and like I will, I

1055
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:45,359
Speaker 2: guess weirdly give him credit because for the most part,

1056
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 2: like you know, before this year, he mostly has played

1057
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 2: in the regular season. This year, he played fifty eight

1058
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:53,719
Speaker 2: out of eighty two games, So that's obviously not the case.

1059
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Speaker 2: But I bring it up because there's a difference between

1060
00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:59,919
Speaker 2: a guy that can do it consistently when it doesn't matter,

1061
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 2: and there's the guys that can put you over the top.

1062
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 2: And I go back to like like when when they

1063
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 2: lost Game seven to the Celtics and he goes to

1064
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:11,240
Speaker 2: the podium and he does the to use your words

1065
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:14,399
Speaker 2: that are absolutely correct, the sulking thing, and he's asked

1066
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:16,319
Speaker 2: about Doc Rivers and he kind of throws him under

1067
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 2: the bus without throwing them under the bus. It's like, dude,

1068
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 2: you're paid thirty whatever million dollars a year. You just

1069
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:28,360
Speaker 2: had nine points in forty one minutes in a closeout

1070
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Speaker 2: game in the NBA playoffs, three of eleven shooting, Like

1071
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:35,360
Speaker 2: and this is what drives me crazy about some of

1072
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Speaker 2: these NBA guys, like like Kyrie Is and other like

1073
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 2: all these guys is there is just such a complete

1074
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:47,280
Speaker 2: lack of self awareness. It's like, dude, you're paid, however

1075
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Speaker 2: many millions of dollars a year, you went three for

1076
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Speaker 2: eleven and it's the coach's fault. It's the coach's fault

1077
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 2: that you went three for eleven. Give me a break.

1078
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Speaker 2: And I'm with you, like I get it's the solo Werts.

1079
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,879
Speaker 2: I'm in the sports calendar. I don't care where James

1080
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 2: Harden's going. It's not impacting anything next year other than

1081
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 2: to your point, whoever he signs would just go or

1082
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 2: he gets traded to go ahead and cross him off

1083
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 2: the list. I know this sounds maybe a little bit dumb,

1084
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 2: but earlier in the show, I talked about how the

1085
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 2: signings of Cam Reddish and whoever you know, Gabe Vincent

1086
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:25,840
Speaker 2: to the Lakers. I think those signings are going to

1087
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 2: be more important for next season in the NBA than

1088
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:32,399
Speaker 2: wherever James Harden ends up, because I believe the Lakers

1089
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 2: have a team that's actually good enough to win it,

1090
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 2: and I don't believe James Harden is impacting anything.

1091
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:36,440
Speaker 3: I just.

1092
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:41,239
Speaker 2: Again, I sort of get why we're obligated to talk

1093
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 2: about him, But to your point, we're talking about this

1094
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 2: guy as if it's twenty eighteen and he just won

1095
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 2: the MVP. He isn't that guy, and people need to

1096
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 2: stop acting like he is.

1097
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:52,839
Speaker 3: He can still be a good player, and I will

1098
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:57,320
Speaker 3: give him this. Actually came away from this season feeling

1099
00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 3: better about him than I thought I was going to.

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00:51:59,440 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 11: Like.

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00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:01,800
Speaker 3: I thought that he performed pretty well in the playoffs,

1102
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 3: especially when it looked like he was fully done a

1103
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 3: year ago. Now, he came up small in those last

1104
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 3: few games, and those were the ones where they really

1105
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 3: needed him the most. And that's where you can never

1106
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 3: depend on James Harden, at least when it comes to

1107
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:17,240
Speaker 3: the playoffs. But I did think that he showed some flashes.

1108
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:19,800
Speaker 3: But that's what it is at this point. It's not

1109
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 3: night after night James Harden can consistently go out there

1110
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 3: and get you x amount of points, X amount of this,

1111
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 3: X amount of that. You just don't know. It's gonna

1112
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:30,239
Speaker 3: be a mixed bag. He might give you two good

1113
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:32,720
Speaker 3: games a week. He might give you two good games

1114
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:35,840
Speaker 3: in you know, two or three weeks. I'm not sure,

1115
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 3: but I am sure that that's not the piece that

1116
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:43,279
Speaker 3: you need to take you over the top. It's just not.

1117
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:47,719
Speaker 3: That's I don't really know what the rational is. Like

1118
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:50,320
Speaker 3: you're bringing in James Harden at this point to do

1119
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 3: what That's what when he say he was going back

1120
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:55,239
Speaker 3: to Houston, like, okay, yeah, in your career where you've

1121
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:58,319
Speaker 3: had your most success, where you were most beloved, go there,

1122
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 3: you know, score some points. You're not gonna win a

1123
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 3: championship there, and he can walk off your head out

1124
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:04,400
Speaker 3: hye and do whatever it is that you want to do.

1125
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 3: But now it's I want to go be an instrumental

1126
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:09,800
Speaker 3: piece on this. And then of course you're seeing the usual,

1127
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 3: which is he's the victim. He's the victim in this scenario.

1128
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 3: Philadelphia lied to him, he took less money, and then

1129
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:19,800
Speaker 3: they decided they weren't gonna keep him, and you know,

1130
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:22,840
Speaker 3: whatever else is going on, and somehow it's never his

1131
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 3: fault ever, like it wasn't his fault in Brooklyn, and

1132
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:27,919
Speaker 3: look that may not have been that may have been true,

1133
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 3: like that was Kyrie's fault more than anything. But you

1134
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 3: go back and you look at it all. When he

1135
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:36,880
Speaker 3: leaves the situation, he kind of shrugs his shoulders and

1136
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 3: he's just kind of like, I did what I could say. Well, no, no, no, no,

1137
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 3: you didn't. You're not leaving them with a championship. No

1138
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:47,800
Speaker 3: organization that he has left is in a better spot

1139
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:51,320
Speaker 3: than when he got there. Think about that for a second.

1140
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 3: It's really true. Like when he left Houston, were they

1141
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:58,720
Speaker 3: in a better spot? No, he left them with nothing.

1142
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:01,720
Speaker 3: Basically he went to Brooks. When he left Brooklynton shambles.

1143
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 3: They had to go make a deal and move move

1144
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 3: Durant as well, and then get back young players and

1145
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:08,879
Speaker 3: we'll see what they're gonna be in the future. He's

1146
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 3: leaving in Philadelphia. Are they closer to a championship now

1147
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 3: than they were two years ago? I don't think so.

1148
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 3: I think we're in the same situation. So what did

1149
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:18,880
Speaker 3: you actually get with the time that you have with

1150
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 3: James Harden? I would argue you probably got some points,

1151
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:23,320
Speaker 3: some highlights, and a lot of media coverage and that

1152
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:23,800
Speaker 3: was about it.

1153
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 2: I just you know, And the funny thing is it

1154
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 2: goes back to I remember asking you this sit after

1155
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 2: the last trade, which was from Brooklyn to Philadelphia.

1156
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:36,319
Speaker 4: What does this man want?

1157
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 2: Had an organization to himself in Houston, got every superstar

1158
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 2: teammate he wanted, whether it was Dwight Howard, Chris Paul,

1159
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:46,799
Speaker 2: Russell Westbrook, demands a trade out of there. When none

1160
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 2: of that works, goes to play with his quote unquote

1161
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 2: best friend Kevin Durant. Kevin Durant's got a lot of

1162
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:52,879
Speaker 2: best friends that turn their backs on him really quick.

1163
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:54,399
Speaker 2: For what it's worth, but that's neither here nor there.

1164
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 2: Goes to play with his best friend, Kevin Durant. Not

1165
00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:59,319
Speaker 2: happy there. Oh, now I don't need to be a star.

1166
00:54:59,400 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 3: I can be the No.

1167
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:01,920
Speaker 2: Number two by the way, really quick, because we got

1168
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:04,359
Speaker 2: we got got other stuff. Remember that that first game

1169
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:06,680
Speaker 2: they played together and people were like, this is the

1170
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 2: new shacking Kobe. Was that the worst analysis in the

1171
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:14,280
Speaker 2: history of basketball? Like that was a thing on Twitter

1172
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 2: for a night. Was Oh, I mean James Harden thirty

1173
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:20,719
Speaker 2: five and fourteen assists, They're like the new shacking Kobe. Well,

1174
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 2: you know, shacking Kobe. I don't want to say too

1175
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:25,239
Speaker 2: much because you know, Kobe at rest in peace, but

1176
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 2: like did not end like this. I just I I'm

1177
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 2: so over James Harden. I didn't even get it. We

1178
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:32,880
Speaker 2: didn't even get into Kyrie Irving. And I think the

1179
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:34,799
Speaker 2: thing with James Harden is exactly what I just said,

1180
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:37,839
Speaker 2: is that there are a lot of guys that are

1181
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:41,400
Speaker 2: never put in the right opportunity and it sucks. Like

1182
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 2: Damian Lillard as a perfect example, and they play hard

1183
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:45,759
Speaker 2: every night and they show up in they're professional and

1184
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 2: they do whatever they can. James Harden is the exact opposite.

1185
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 2: Time after time after time, He's gotten what he wants

1186
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:54,319
Speaker 2: and he's never happy. Fox Sports Radio Era towards Jason Martin.

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00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 2: good stuff on James hard and Damian Lillard, Kyrie Irving

1194
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:18,279
Speaker 2: and everything else going on in the NBA right now.

1195
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 4: Mark Medina joins us.

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00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:26,319
Speaker 2: Next, Fox Sports Radio, Welcome back, everybody, Fox Sports Radio

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00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:30,239
Speaker 2: eron tours Jason Martin broadcasting live from thee Tireck dot

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Speaker 2: Com studios. Do not want to waste any more time.

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Speaker 2: Let's go straight out to the phone lines. He is

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00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 2: our Fox Sports Radio NBA insider Mark Medina joins us.

1201
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:41,879
Speaker 1: Mark.

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00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 12: What's going on, manh Aaron? Not much other than two

1203
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:50,280
Speaker 12: star players potentially changing the entire landscape of the NBA

1204
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 12: better than that all crickets.

1205
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:55,719
Speaker 2: Okay, so this is a great segue to what we

1206
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 2: just talked about. Are you lumping James Harden in as

1207
00:56:58,640 --> 00:56:59,320
Speaker 2: a star player?

1208
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 12: Well, I guess technically in light of this conversation, yes,

1209
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:08,279
Speaker 12: but it is a point because he hasn't shown up

1210
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:12,279
Speaker 12: in the playoffs in recent seasons. He you know, he

1211
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 12: hasn't shown the greatest durability and it is ironic that

1212
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 12: you know, he has moved the Neil considering you know,

1213
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 12: that Game seven performance, which is Scott awful. So yeah,

1214
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 12: I'd aggress.

1215
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:24,440
Speaker 4: So yeah, no, Mark, No, it's great because this is

1216
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 4: what we were just talking about prior to you coming on.

1217
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 13: Is.

1218
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:29,920
Speaker 2: On the one hand, I get people in our business.

1219
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 2: It's a slow time of year, and certainly covering the NBA,

1220
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 2: James harden is interesting, but hasn't made it out of

1221
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 2: the second round of the playoffs since twenty eighteen. A

1222
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 2: couple questions here, and this is really what I want

1223
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 2: to ask you, because you know this league better than anybody. One,

1224
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 2: I don't think it helps you win games as much

1225
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 2: as people think. But two, here's my question. This is

1226
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 2: this is I'm going to have you put on your

1227
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:56,280
Speaker 2: your your your armchair analyst therapist had here. James Harden

1228
00:57:57,320 --> 00:58:00,120
Speaker 2: had his own organization in Houston where he got to

1229
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 2: hand pick three of his star teammates, Dwight Howard who

1230
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 2: was a star when he got when he went to Houston,

1231
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 2: Russell Westbrook and Chris Paul. Then he goes to play

1232
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 2: with his quote unquote best friend Kevin Durant. Not happy there.

1233
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 2: Then he goes to Philadelphia, where he's supposedly the missing

1234
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 2: piece there. Here's my question that I have never got answered.

1235
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 2: What would actually make James Harden happy at this point

1236
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:22,240
Speaker 2: because it seems like he gets to pick wherever he goes.

1237
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:24,440
Speaker 2: There's all these great players. Damian Lillard will get into

1238
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 2: in a minute, has had so many things thrown his way.

1239
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 2: Damian Lillard rolls off his back and he shows up

1240
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:32,520
Speaker 2: every night to play James Harden gets to pick every

1241
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 2: situation perfectly tailored to him, and he's never happy. Mark Medina,

1242
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 2: I know there's no answer to the question, but what

1243
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 2: will make this guy happy at this point?

1244
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:42,720
Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean, it's all very fair questions, and I

1245
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:45,440
Speaker 12: wish I had the answers to them because I'm been

1246
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:49,240
Speaker 12: wondering myself because clearly, with what his actions have shown,

1247
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:51,800
Speaker 12: at least it shows that he wants to be on

1248
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:55,000
Speaker 12: a championship contending team. Okay, that's fair. He wants to

1249
00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:58,960
Speaker 12: be the number one guy. Okay, that's fair if you

1250
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:01,640
Speaker 12: can have the twenty ethic to back it up. But

1251
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 12: I think that's where the rubber meets the road here,

1252
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 12: is that he doesn't always show up when you need

1253
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:09,920
Speaker 12: him the most. He shows up some of the times,

1254
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:13,640
Speaker 12: sometimes he doesn't, whether it's you know, lack of consistent

1255
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:17,680
Speaker 12: mindset or lack of consistent durability, and that he doesn't

1256
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:22,200
Speaker 12: want to accept the accountability that comes with it. And

1257
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 12: I say that all to understand that it's not like

1258
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:28,680
Speaker 12: all the problems that he was facing with certain teams

1259
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 12: entirely pinpointed to him with the rockets, you know, there's

1260
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 12: a lot of turbulence with ownership with Chilman. For Tia,

1261
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 12: There's a reason why Darryl Morey got out. There's a

1262
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 12: reason why Mike D'Antoni got out. When you go to Brooklyn,

1263
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 12: there's a hot mess with Kyrie Irving and Kevin Durant

1264
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:47,360
Speaker 12: and Ben Simmons, et cetera. So clearly he's not the

1265
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:51,280
Speaker 12: only guilty actor. But at some point, if every team

1266
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 12: that you go on there is a problem, you kind

1267
00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 12: of have to look at yourself in the mirror here,

1268
00:59:57,000 --> 01:00:01,760
Speaker 12: and so with the Sixers look Doc Rivers was canned

1269
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:04,600
Speaker 12: for a reason. They felt like he wasn't innovative enough

1270
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:08,880
Speaker 12: offensively with his system. But when you're looking at Game seven,

1271
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:12,160
Speaker 12: it comes down to star players, and neither he nor

1272
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:16,440
Speaker 12: Joel Embiid showed up. And I do give Joel Embiid,

1273
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:18,640
Speaker 12: I wouldn't say a pass, but a little bit more

1274
01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:21,280
Speaker 12: benefited doubt because A is a better player, but B

1275
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:25,040
Speaker 12: he usually takes accountability when he doesn't play well, where

1276
01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:27,800
Speaker 12: in James Harden situation rarely does he do so.

1277
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:31,160
Speaker 3: So a guy that definitely fits the bill for superstar

1278
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:35,280
Speaker 3: level players is Damian Lillard, and he's the guy that Look,

1279
01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:39,400
Speaker 3: that community loves him, Mark Portland loves him, the league

1280
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 3: loves him. He's very popular. He's done everything that he

1281
01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:46,800
Speaker 3: can for that organization. Are you at all surprised at

1282
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:50,480
Speaker 3: at least the public statements in the way the organization

1283
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:52,960
Speaker 3: seems to be talking about how they're going to get

1284
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:57,600
Speaker 3: the best for themselves here and they're not. Really. It's

1285
01:00:57,640 --> 01:01:00,200
Speaker 3: not that they need to be bending over bowing for

1286
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:02,640
Speaker 3: Damian Lillard, but they don't seem to be giving him

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Speaker 3: the level of respect I might have assumed they would.

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Speaker 12: Well, I'm not surprised it got to this point, but

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Speaker 12: I would push back a little bit that they're not

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Speaker 12: giving him the respect. I mean, look, they committed to

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Speaker 12: him with an extension last summer a Max Steele, even

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Speaker 12: though he's coming off of injuries. I think that, you know,

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Speaker 12: while Portland certainly isn't blameless, they've made some good moves,

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Speaker 12: they've made bad moves. It's always been the confines of

1295
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Speaker 12: genuine intentions here, and so when they didn't listen to

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Speaker 12: I think the messaging that hey, I don't want to

1297
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Speaker 12: play with young players, I want to play with veterans.

1298
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Speaker 12: The Blazers did explore what they could get with the

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Speaker 12: number three pick, and I think that they just concluded,

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01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:51,000
Speaker 12: most notably with Zion Williamson being a possibility, that look,

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01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:54,360
Speaker 12: there's more concerns about that because of his durability than

1302
01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:57,560
Speaker 12: there is about Scut Henderson, who is a dynamic point

1303
01:01:57,600 --> 01:02:00,440
Speaker 12: guard that may need time to develop because that's how

1304
01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:03,760
Speaker 12: all rookies are. But he checks the boxes of what

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01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:06,240
Speaker 12: you want in a point guard, and so I don't

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Speaker 12: think it was a move necessarily to say we're pushing

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Speaker 12: you on your way out. They did give Jeremy Grant

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Speaker 12: a five year offer yesterday that some thought around the

1309
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:20,400
Speaker 12: league was very generous, and I think it was with

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Speaker 12: the idea that, look, this is a guy that Damian

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01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:26,000
Speaker 12: Lord liked to play with in recruited. Maybe this helps

1312
01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:29,360
Speaker 12: appease some of the short term frustrations. So fast forward

1313
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Speaker 12: into this statement that Joe Groenin said about Look, you know,

1314
01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:34,400
Speaker 12: we're committed to winning. We're going to do it's best

1315
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Speaker 12: for the team and suit of that goal. I think

1316
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Speaker 12: they're just trying to do their job that look, they'll

1317
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Speaker 12: explore the landscape, but they're also not going to accept

1318
01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:45,080
Speaker 12: pennies on the dollar because they're in a different situation

1319
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Speaker 12: than say, the Washington Wizards were with Brad Beale, where

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Speaker 12: Bradbale not only had a no trade clause, but clearly

1321
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Speaker 12: the Wizards were in mediocrity. They have a new front office,

1322
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Speaker 12: They're ready to hit the reset button. Even though the

1323
01:02:57,760 --> 01:03:00,960
Speaker 12: Portland Trailblazers aren't necessarily equipped right now. Even if they

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Speaker 12: do make moves and becoming a championship contender, there's still

1325
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Speaker 12: is a pathway for them to be a legitimate playoff team,

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Speaker 12: kind of like what they were for most of Damian

1327
01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:12,320
Speaker 12: Lillard's career. But where the rubber meets the road here

1328
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:15,479
Speaker 12: is Damien wants to get finally to that next level

1329
01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:18,640
Speaker 12: where there is a realistic pathway to win the NBA title,

1330
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Speaker 12: and that's just going to be harder and harder, you know,

1331
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:23,960
Speaker 12: as he advances in his age, and you know there

1332
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:28,200
Speaker 12: are injury concerns to be had. So I think when

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Speaker 12: you look at all this stuff, I don't blame Portland,

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01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:33,560
Speaker 12: I don't blame Damien. It just feels like for all

1335
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:37,080
Speaker 12: the circumstances, you know, I think both parties are just

1336
01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:39,040
Speaker 12: better off because of all the different factors.

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Speaker 2: Mark Madina joining US Fox Sports Radio NBA Insider. Last

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Speaker 2: one for me, Mark, I, you know, staying on the

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Speaker 2: Dame Lillard stuff. You know what's interesting is, and I

1340
01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:49,760
Speaker 2: think you referenced it a minute ago, is that he

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01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:53,360
Speaker 2: does unlike brad Beal Bratt Bradley Beal had a no

1342
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:56,200
Speaker 2: trade clause, Damian Lillard doesn't. And one of the other

1343
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Speaker 2: things that Portland's front office said earlier today was that,

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01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:01,680
Speaker 2: you know, they're going to do what's best for the organization.

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Speaker 2: I can't speak for anybody else. I want to see

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01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:07,280
Speaker 2: that guy in Miami, but it sounds as though they're

1347
01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:10,080
Speaker 2: going to pursue, you know, whatever is best for them.

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Speaker 2: Do you have an early feel yet for if Miami

1349
01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:15,240
Speaker 2: is actually the favorite, if somebody else might be anything

1350
01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:15,440
Speaker 2: like that.

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Speaker 12: Well, I think Miami, no doubt will be aggressive. You know,

1352
01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:21,960
Speaker 12: same thing with the Clippers. But the sense around, you know,

1353
01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:26,080
Speaker 12: outside of Portland, around the league is that it feels

1354
01:04:26,120 --> 01:04:28,240
Speaker 12: inevitable that there's going to have to be a third

1355
01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:31,720
Speaker 12: team involved in that. Maybe the Damian Lillard James Hard

1356
01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:35,120
Speaker 12: and trade has some sort of overlap right where maybe

1357
01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:37,400
Speaker 12: it's three or four teams involved, and you know, the

1358
01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:40,600
Speaker 12: other teams that are involved are in the asset collection

1359
01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:44,400
Speaker 12: mode right as far as draft picks and expiring contracts,

1360
01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:47,560
Speaker 12: et cetera. But as much as Damian Lillard and James

1361
01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:50,920
Speaker 12: hard And clearly are different types of players and clearly

1362
01:04:51,640 --> 01:04:55,240
Speaker 12: tick a lot much differently, the common denominator is this,

1363
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Speaker 12: from what I've been told from the Sixers end as

1364
01:04:58,120 --> 01:05:00,600
Speaker 12: well as the Blazers end, is that they're going to

1365
01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:02,880
Speaker 12: do their job and explore the market see what they

1366
01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:06,720
Speaker 12: can get in trades. Because clearly none of those players

1367
01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:09,919
Speaker 12: want to do with those respective franchises. But both franchises

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01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:14,240
Speaker 12: are comfortable enough to drag this out if they don't

1369
01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:18,400
Speaker 12: feel like they're getting a somewhat equal value in return.

1370
01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:21,520
Speaker 12: And what does that mean. Maybe it's obvious all trades

1371
01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:23,880
Speaker 12: have to be good. It is a trade that keeps

1372
01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:27,960
Speaker 12: both of the teams in the Blazer sense playoff contention

1373
01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:30,960
Speaker 12: and the Sixers, I guess you can make an argument

1374
01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:34,920
Speaker 12: playoff or championship contention. So because of that, they can

1375
01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:37,760
Speaker 12: be more selective than Washington, And because of that, this

1376
01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:41,720
Speaker 12: could get resolved tonight, tomorrow, next week, but there's very

1377
01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:44,800
Speaker 12: well a possibility that it won't be resolved until later

1378
01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:48,080
Speaker 12: in the offseason or haven't forbid even entering next season.

1379
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Speaker 3: Mark one thing the Lakers did that I was well,

1380
01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:53,000
Speaker 3: it's not that I was shocked by, but it's not

1381
01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:56,240
Speaker 3: what you've seen from them and usually what they do.

1382
01:05:56,440 --> 01:05:59,640
Speaker 3: They didn't go start chasing this year round, and they

1383
01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:02,280
Speaker 3: did some smart things. I like almost everything that they

1384
01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:04,440
Speaker 3: did sans one move and maybe you can talk me

1385
01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:07,240
Speaker 3: out of it, but the D'Angelo Russell deal, what do

1386
01:06:07,320 --> 01:06:08,640
Speaker 3: you think of the fact that he's going to be

1387
01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:11,320
Speaker 3: back on a two year deal with them making decent money.

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01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:15,200
Speaker 12: Well, short, the short answer on di'angelo, I like it

1389
01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:18,600
Speaker 12: because of first of all, that the deal was not

1390
01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:22,680
Speaker 12: too expensive. It was a team friendly deal, you know,

1391
01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:25,720
Speaker 12: a good salary cap management. They were cognizant that because

1392
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Speaker 12: of some of his inconsistency, there wasn't really much of

1393
01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:31,120
Speaker 12: a market out there for him. And I think under

1394
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:33,200
Speaker 12: the guys of the big picture of what you're saying,

1395
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Speaker 12: of all the moves that they made, I think that

1396
01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:40,760
Speaker 12: the D'Angelo Russell retainment is good because he's not expected

1397
01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:43,440
Speaker 12: to be the top guy, and so because of that,

1398
01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:46,040
Speaker 12: they're going to be They're going to benefit much more

1399
01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:49,160
Speaker 12: for what he can do being a good playmaker, being

1400
01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:52,479
Speaker 12: a good floor space or knocking down the occasional shot

1401
01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:55,240
Speaker 12: versus what he can't do of being a consistent shooter,

1402
01:06:55,720 --> 01:06:57,800
Speaker 12: being a good defender. And I think that the Lakers

1403
01:06:57,880 --> 01:07:00,000
Speaker 12: also have kept in mind that, no doubt, he didn't

1404
01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:02,840
Speaker 12: play well in the playoffs, especially in the Western Conference finals.

1405
01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:04,840
Speaker 12: But when you're looking at the big picture of those

1406
01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:08,800
Speaker 12: post trade deadline moves, it wasn't necessarily D'Angel as single

1407
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:11,960
Speaker 12: handedly doing this, but he was really the key ingredient

1408
01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:16,560
Speaker 12: that made the engine run really well offensively as opposed

1409
01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:19,880
Speaker 12: to what the offense looked like with Russell Westbrook in

1410
01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:22,400
Speaker 12: the fold. So with that, I think it was a

1411
01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:25,320
Speaker 12: major move, a good move, But the larger point that

1412
01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:29,560
Speaker 12: you mentioned about everything else, of prioritizing continuity and getting

1413
01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:32,800
Speaker 12: good role players, it was the right formula what to do,

1414
01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:35,720
Speaker 12: partly because they already have stars with Lebron James and

1415
01:07:35,840 --> 01:07:39,040
Speaker 12: Anthony Davis, but they also resist the temptation of let's

1416
01:07:39,080 --> 01:07:42,840
Speaker 12: get a third star because the Russell Westbrook scenario, I

1417
01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:46,520
Speaker 12: think reinforced lessons that you're much better off having a

1418
01:07:46,600 --> 01:07:49,560
Speaker 12: collection of good role players that can fulfill positional needs

1419
01:07:49,880 --> 01:07:53,440
Speaker 12: and complement Lebron James and Anthony Davis well as opposed

1420
01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:56,120
Speaker 12: to trying to integrate a third star into the mix

1421
01:07:56,280 --> 01:07:58,240
Speaker 12: and as a result not have as much depth.

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Speaker 2: He is our Fox Sports read NBA insider. Make sure

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Speaker 2: to follow him on Twitter at Mark G Underscore Medina.

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01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:09,360
Speaker 2: Mark Man, we appreciate the time. The news never stops.

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01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:12,240
Speaker 2: I'm guessing something crazy you'll happen between now and next week,

1426
01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:14,520
Speaker 2: so we'll be talking to you again soon. Thank you

1427
01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:16,519
Speaker 2: as always for making the time. We'll be following you

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Speaker 2: on Twitter and we'll be talking soon.

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Speaker 4: Mark, Thank you.

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01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:21,280
Speaker 12: I appreciate you guys. Always loves to talking this.

1431
01:08:21,479 --> 01:08:22,920
Speaker 4: All right, have a great holiday weekend.

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Speaker 12: Mark.

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Speaker 2: match coming up. React to some things that Mark Medina said,

1441
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Speaker 2: but also turn our attention to the Diamond. I have

1442
01:08:48,120 --> 01:08:51,559
Speaker 2: a question for Jason about Major League Baseball's best player.

1443
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Speaker 4: That's next. Before we do that, let's toss it over

1444
01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:54,960
Speaker 4: the news desk, the saga, what's trending?

1445
01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:57,479
Speaker 10: Well, the news does never stop because we got breaking

1446
01:08:57,560 --> 01:09:01,439
Speaker 10: news from the NBA. NBA's free agency period started last

1447
01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:04,519
Speaker 10: night and stuff just keeps coming. Sacramento has given Demantis

1448
01:09:04,520 --> 01:09:07,920
Speaker 10: Sabonis a five year deal worth almost two hundred million

1449
01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:12,040
Speaker 10: dollars in new money. ESPN reports they've renegotiated next year's

1450
01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:15,160
Speaker 10: and added four new years. This is a guy that

1451
01:09:15,320 --> 01:09:19,920
Speaker 10: this past season four Sacramento averaged nineteen points, twelve rebounds,

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01:09:20,040 --> 01:09:24,200
Speaker 10: and seven assists per game. The year before, after arriving

1453
01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:27,760
Speaker 10: to the Kings, he averaged nineteen points, twelve rebounds, and

1454
01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:32,120
Speaker 10: six assists. Trail Blazer's guard Damian Lillard requested a trade

1455
01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:36,040
Speaker 10: Blazer's just drafted guard Scoot Henderson. The Hornets will give

1456
01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:39,639
Speaker 10: guard LaMelo Ball a five year extension for the rookie maximum.

1457
01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:44,160
Speaker 10: The Lakers resigned D'Angelo Russell and Austin Reeves. La signed

1458
01:09:44,200 --> 01:09:47,479
Speaker 10: center Jackson Hayes from New Orleans as well. The Clippers

1459
01:09:47,560 --> 01:09:50,720
Speaker 10: resigned Russell Westbrook one year plus a player option, and

1460
01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:54,280
Speaker 10: the Clips are trading for kJ Martin from Houston. Milwaukee

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01:09:54,439 --> 01:09:59,040
Speaker 10: resigned center Brook Lopez and resigned Jay Crowder. Orlando resigned

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01:09:59,080 --> 01:10:02,040
Speaker 10: Moe Wagner to it time two year deal. Cleveland acquired

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01:10:02,160 --> 01:10:05,720
Speaker 10: Max Struce from Miami. He gets four years sixty three

1464
01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:09,760
Speaker 10: million dollars. Houston will sign Dylan Brooks from Memphis four

1465
01:10:09,880 --> 01:10:12,960
Speaker 10: years eighty million dollars, and the Rockets are close to

1466
01:10:13,040 --> 01:10:16,519
Speaker 10: acquiring veteran guard Patty Mills from the Nets. The Pacers

1467
01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:19,080
Speaker 10: will trade for Obi Toppin from the Knicks. New York

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01:10:19,160 --> 01:10:23,519
Speaker 10: is signing guard Dante DiVincenzo. Philadelphia is signing veteran guard

1469
01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:27,160
Speaker 10: Patrick Beverly. Ricky Fowler leads by one stroke at the

1470
01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:30,599
Speaker 10: PGA Tour stop in Detroit. Bryson De'shamba leads by one

1471
01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:34,560
Speaker 10: at the Livgolf event in Spain. Birmingham won the USFL

1472
01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:38,160
Speaker 10: Championship game tonight. US men soccer continues the Gold Cup

1473
01:10:38,200 --> 01:10:42,839
Speaker 10: tournament Sunday night on Fox TV against Trinidad from Charlotte.

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01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:46,200
Speaker 10: Two games still going, make that three. In Major League Baseball,

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01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:49,080
Speaker 10: Angels a one nothing leader against the Diamondbacks in the

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01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:51,880
Speaker 10: sixth top of the tenth inning. Detroit has taken the

1477
01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:55,240
Speaker 10: lead at Colorado four to one, and at Wrigley Field, Chicago.

1478
01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:57,080
Speaker 10: They're only in the sixth inning because of a long

1479
01:10:57,200 --> 01:11:00,880
Speaker 10: rain delay at the start. Guardians lead the Cubs nothing. Now,

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01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:03,679
Speaker 10: Minnesota is the first place team in the AL Central.

1481
01:11:03,880 --> 01:11:07,000
Speaker 10: A one nothing winner at Baltimore. The Twins were one

1482
01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:10,599
Speaker 10: full game over the Guardians. We'll see if that stays. Meanwhile,

1483
01:11:10,680 --> 01:11:14,080
Speaker 10: in the NL Central, Cincinnati lost at home today. Padres

1484
01:11:14,160 --> 01:11:17,120
Speaker 10: ended a six game losing streak, winning at Cincinnati twelve

1485
01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:19,720
Speaker 10: to five. The Reds are now tied for first in

1486
01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:22,599
Speaker 10: the NL Central with the Brewers, who won their game

1487
01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:26,720
Speaker 10: eventually finishing after the rains at Pittsburgh eleven to eight.

1488
01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:30,839
Speaker 10: Atlanta won its seven straight seven nothing over Miami. Oakland

1489
01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:33,400
Speaker 10: won in ten innings against the White Sox seven to six,

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01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:38,680
Speaker 10: and Philadelphia won its game nineteen to four over Washington. Well,

1491
01:11:38,720 --> 01:11:41,679
Speaker 10: we mentioned earlier in the show about the match golf

1492
01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:48,080
Speaker 10: exhibition that took place this past week with Patrick Mahomeskies,

1493
01:11:48,640 --> 01:11:52,320
Speaker 10: Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelcey beating Steph Curry and Clay Thompson.

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01:11:53,200 --> 01:11:55,720
Speaker 10: If you add up to three cable channels it was

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Speaker 10: on Thursday night, it averaged still under eight hundred thousand viewers,

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Speaker 10: making it easily the least washed of the seven they've

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Speaker 10: had of the match on TV. Also, Thursday night was

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Speaker 10: the Mexico Gold Cup soccer game that got over two

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01:12:12,360 --> 01:12:15,960
Speaker 10: million viewers English plus Spanish combined in this country. And

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Speaker 10: the night before in the Gold Cup, the US was

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Speaker 10: playing dreaded Saint Kitts, a country of under fifty thousand population,

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Speaker 10: and even that got a million and a half viewers,

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Speaker 10: double the golf match exhibition ratings of the next night.

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01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:34,040
Speaker 10: By the way, if they can only play Saint Kitts

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01:12:34,080 --> 01:12:35,960
Speaker 10: all the time, you know how the US men struggled

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01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:38,720
Speaker 10: to score. They won six nothing in that game. So

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01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:42,320
Speaker 10: this is how bad the golf got. Under eight hundred

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01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:47,960
Speaker 10: thousand viewers, usfl over eight hundred thousand, over eight fifty

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Speaker 10: in fact, last Sunday night for the semifinal on Fox

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Speaker 10: TV that Birmingham won.

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Speaker 2: Back to you, thank you very much, Steve the Sager,

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday Er Torres Jason Martin

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Speaker 2: broadcast live from the Tireck dot com studios.

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Speaker 4: Tell you what, well, come back.

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Speaker 2: There are a couple baseball things, yes baseball, that I

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Speaker 2: want to hit on, including one trend that needs to stop,

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Speaker 2: needs to end in twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 4: That's next. Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Eight hundred thousand people watching. All right, Jason, two quick things.

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01:13:47,040 --> 01:13:48,599
Speaker 2: So I gotta get something off my chest. I feel

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01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:51,560
Speaker 2: like I'm angry tonight, which is weird because it's a

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01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:54,240
Speaker 2: holiday weekend, get to spend time with the family. I'm

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01:13:54,240 --> 01:13:56,640
Speaker 2: a happy guy. But just a few minutes ago, I

1533
01:13:56,720 --> 01:13:58,880
Speaker 2: went off on James Harden, who I just think is

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01:13:59,120 --> 01:14:00,679
Speaker 2: kind of a clown at this time point in his career.

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01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:04,559
Speaker 4: You know what else, I'm kind of over Jason, kind

1536
01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:05,120
Speaker 4: of oldjo.

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01:14:05,479 --> 01:14:09,719
Speaker 2: Okay, So it is right now eleven forty seven pm

1538
01:14:09,880 --> 01:14:12,840
Speaker 2: Eastern Time on the East Coast, okay, Meaning we're in

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01:14:12,880 --> 01:14:16,080
Speaker 2: the last thirteen minutes of July first, twenty twenty three.

1540
01:14:16,720 --> 01:14:19,479
Speaker 2: On the East Coast, July first is known as a

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01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:21,560
Speaker 2: lot of things, new fiscal year, blah blah blah, blah, this,

1542
01:14:21,640 --> 01:14:24,519
Speaker 2: and that. It is also known for something in sports

1543
01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:28,599
Speaker 2: called Bobby Bonia Day. At this point, I'm pretty sure

1544
01:14:29,000 --> 01:14:33,160
Speaker 2: literally every person listening to this show knows what Bobby

1545
01:14:33,200 --> 01:14:36,799
Speaker 2: Bonia Day is. But essentially, when Bobby Bonia uh finished

1546
01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:39,200
Speaker 2: his career with the Mets, he signed this big, long,

1547
01:14:39,360 --> 01:14:43,800
Speaker 2: expensive contract, and as part of the contract, rather than

1548
01:14:43,880 --> 01:14:46,600
Speaker 2: paying it all out while he was a player, they

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01:14:46,760 --> 01:14:50,880
Speaker 2: pro rated it. And Bobby Bonia gets a check for

1550
01:14:50,960 --> 01:14:56,599
Speaker 2: a little over one million dollars every single July first

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01:14:57,080 --> 01:15:00,120
Speaker 2: through twenty thirty five. And this is dating back to

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01:15:00,200 --> 01:15:03,760
Speaker 2: when he left the team in the early part of

1553
01:15:03,840 --> 01:15:07,040
Speaker 2: this century. Okay, and so good on Bobby Bonia. You

1554
01:15:07,120 --> 01:15:08,680
Speaker 2: get a big check that most of us will never

1555
01:15:08,760 --> 01:15:11,479
Speaker 2: see every single year. But can I just say, from

1556
01:15:11,520 --> 01:15:17,360
Speaker 2: the sports media perspective, can we stop talking Bobby Bonia Day.

1557
01:15:17,880 --> 01:15:20,639
Speaker 2: There is nothing interesting about it. There is nothing funny

1558
01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:24,160
Speaker 2: about it. There is no joke or comment that you like.

1559
01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:27,519
Speaker 2: Like every year I see the same silly comments, the

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01:15:27,560 --> 01:15:28,320
Speaker 2: same silly whatever.

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01:15:28,479 --> 01:15:28,960
Speaker 3: We get it.

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01:15:29,200 --> 01:15:30,960
Speaker 2: The guy played a long time ago and the Mets

1563
01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:33,360
Speaker 2: are still paying for it. Wasn't even a bad contract.

1564
01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:36,479
Speaker 2: It's just how they structure the contract whatever. I'm just

1565
01:15:36,680 --> 01:15:39,880
Speaker 2: so over everybody on July first feeling like they have

1566
01:15:39,920 --> 01:15:42,080
Speaker 2: to have a funny quip about Bobby Bonia Day. It's

1567
01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:44,320
Speaker 2: been going on for twenty years. It wasn't funny like

1568
01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:47,040
Speaker 2: fifteen years ago. Can we stop? Can we let the

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01:15:47,080 --> 01:15:49,080
Speaker 2: man get his check and spend it on whatever. Now,

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01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:51,640
Speaker 2: if Bobby Bonia does an interview, if the Mets bring

1571
01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:52,960
Speaker 2: him on the field and let him throw out the

1572
01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:55,840
Speaker 2: first pitch, that's a different conversation. But the man is

1573
01:15:55,920 --> 01:15:58,120
Speaker 2: just living his life. He's over fifty years old right now.

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01:15:58,640 --> 01:16:00,200
Speaker 2: I'm so over Bobby Bonie Day.

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01:16:00,240 --> 01:16:03,519
Speaker 3: Jas what what man?

1576
01:16:04,120 --> 01:16:06,040
Speaker 4: It's a lot Yeah, peel back.

1577
01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:10,439
Speaker 3: I know that's something else right there, the Bobby Bonia thing.

1578
01:16:11,120 --> 01:16:14,639
Speaker 3: It becomes stick because what's the one thing that generally

1579
01:16:14,800 --> 01:16:19,479
Speaker 3: is true on July first? In sports NBA free agents,

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01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:24,000
Speaker 3: Almost nothing's happening. Oh okay, yes, so it gives you content,

1581
01:16:24,280 --> 01:16:26,559
Speaker 3: It gives you something to talk about. It's a little

1582
01:16:26,600 --> 01:16:30,160
Speaker 3: bit funny. I guess what's worse for you, Bobby Bonia

1583
01:16:30,240 --> 01:16:31,360
Speaker 3: Day or April Fools Day.

1584
01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:37,800
Speaker 2: Well, I think the repetitiveness of Bobby Bonia Day, Like

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01:16:38,160 --> 01:16:41,320
Speaker 2: people try try too hard to be funny on April

1586
01:16:41,400 --> 01:16:44,360
Speaker 2: Fools But at least it's like a different joke every year.

1587
01:16:44,439 --> 01:16:46,640
Speaker 4: This is the same, like, oh my god, can you

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01:16:46,840 --> 01:16:47,920
Speaker 4: believe the Mets sign this?

1589
01:16:48,120 --> 01:16:48,280
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1590
01:16:48,320 --> 01:16:49,720
Speaker 2: I can because I've been talking hearing about it for

1591
01:16:49,720 --> 01:16:51,800
Speaker 2: the last twenty five years, so yes, I can believe it.

1592
01:16:52,479 --> 01:16:55,880
Speaker 2: There's nothing, there's no new insight onto Bobby Bonia Day.

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01:16:56,200 --> 01:16:57,920
Speaker 4: He gets a big check. It's not that big of

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01:16:57,960 --> 01:16:58,240
Speaker 4: a deal.

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01:16:58,439 --> 01:16:59,880
Speaker 3: It's just kind of a I mean, it's ham for

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01:17:00,479 --> 01:17:03,200
Speaker 3: and it's I mean I've bought into it the past

1597
01:17:03,280 --> 01:17:06,439
Speaker 3: two and done it on various radio shows, and it's

1598
01:17:06,520 --> 01:17:09,400
Speaker 3: usually about as simple as man, good on Bobby Bonia

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01:17:09,439 --> 01:17:12,320
Speaker 3: for making some money today. Happy Bobby Bonilla Day, everybody.

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01:17:12,400 --> 01:17:14,160
Speaker 3: And then you move on from it. I will say this,

1601
01:17:14,360 --> 01:17:18,479
Speaker 3: you will probably I hope that you can contain yourself here.

1602
01:17:19,360 --> 01:17:20,760
Speaker 3: But at least we're going into the break at the

1603
01:17:20,800 --> 01:17:22,120
Speaker 3: top of the hour, so you're gonna get a couple

1604
01:17:22,160 --> 01:17:24,000
Speaker 3: of minutes to calm down. I just went to the

1605
01:17:24,120 --> 01:17:30,720
Speaker 3: four Letters website and went to the MLB drop down

1606
01:17:31,040 --> 01:17:35,040
Speaker 3: the vertical for baseball. Sure, and the lead story. You know,

1607
01:17:35,160 --> 01:17:37,760
Speaker 3: games were played today and games are being played right

1608
01:17:37,760 --> 01:17:40,760
Speaker 3: now Detroit and Colorado. All right, extra innings right now.

1609
01:17:40,760 --> 01:17:42,120
Speaker 3: Of course, that looks like it's about to end with

1610
01:17:42,200 --> 01:17:46,400
Speaker 3: the Tigers win. You've got Cubs and Guardians playing rematch

1611
01:17:46,520 --> 01:17:50,680
Speaker 3: World Series. But the number one the splash screen when

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01:17:50,680 --> 01:17:54,559
Speaker 3: you go to ESPN dot com slash MLB, it's Bobby

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01:17:54,600 --> 01:17:55,320
Speaker 3: Bonilla Day.

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01:17:55,439 --> 01:17:55,640
Speaker 12: I know.

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01:17:56,160 --> 01:17:58,360
Speaker 3: Here's why the former met gets paid one point one

1616
01:17:58,400 --> 01:18:01,760
Speaker 3: to nine million today and every July first. That is

1617
01:18:02,040 --> 01:18:06,439
Speaker 3: literally the top headline while active games are being played tonight.

1618
01:18:06,640 --> 01:18:07,920
Speaker 3: So I'm sure you appreciate that.

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01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:09,600
Speaker 4: I don't get it.

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01:18:09,720 --> 01:18:12,240
Speaker 2: But by the way, I will say about Bobby Bonia

1621
01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:14,599
Speaker 2: Day two things. First of all, I got this Rockies

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01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:15,439
Speaker 2: game on right now.

1623
01:18:15,720 --> 01:18:15,920
Speaker 3: Yep.

1624
01:18:17,439 --> 01:18:19,320
Speaker 4: They have an amazing.

1625
01:18:18,840 --> 01:18:21,960
Speaker 2: Crowd in Colorado for a last place team playing the

1626
01:18:22,080 --> 01:18:25,200
Speaker 2: Detroit Tigers. Like every seat in that stadium is packed,

1627
01:18:25,360 --> 01:18:27,840
Speaker 2: like you know, it's unbelievable.

1628
01:18:27,920 --> 01:18:29,880
Speaker 3: Away contact high in that place too. Probably.

1629
01:18:30,160 --> 01:18:33,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a very good point, legal there, Bobby Bonia Day.

1630
01:18:33,080 --> 01:18:34,479
Speaker 2: The one thing I will say that I did, because

1631
01:18:34,479 --> 01:18:35,880
Speaker 2: I did read that article just to make sure I

1632
01:18:35,920 --> 01:18:39,799
Speaker 2: had my facts right. The funny part about the story

1633
01:18:39,920 --> 01:18:42,320
Speaker 2: that I actually haven't heard, so there was a funny

1634
01:18:42,360 --> 01:18:44,560
Speaker 2: twist that nobody told me, and that was that it

1635
01:18:44,680 --> 01:18:48,439
Speaker 2: was obviously signed during the time that Bernie Madeoff was

1636
01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:52,679
Speaker 2: the owner, and essentially it was supposed to in theory

1637
01:18:52,840 --> 01:18:54,840
Speaker 2: the way that it was structured, it wasn't gonna be

1638
01:18:54,880 --> 01:18:56,560
Speaker 2: as bad and you kind of get a kickback and

1639
01:18:56,600 --> 01:18:59,960
Speaker 2: dah dah da da da and whatever. So Bernie made Off,

1640
01:19:00,439 --> 01:19:03,200
Speaker 2: you know, who has since passed away, but obviously, you know,

1641
01:19:03,720 --> 01:19:06,920
Speaker 2: a scandalous end to his life, and he's screwing the

1642
01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:08,679
Speaker 2: Mets from the grave on this one. That was something

1643
01:19:08,720 --> 01:19:11,559
Speaker 2: that I did learn while reading this trending number one

1644
01:19:11,640 --> 01:19:13,439
Speaker 2: story on ESPN dot com.

1645
01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:17,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think that's fair. But I can

1646
01:19:17,560 --> 01:19:19,439
Speaker 3: understand why you're kind of tired of it. It's just

1647
01:19:19,560 --> 01:19:22,519
Speaker 3: kind of at this point, it's just a tradition. We'll

1648
01:19:22,560 --> 01:19:24,600
Speaker 3: be talking about something later on in this show that

1649
01:19:24,720 --> 01:19:27,680
Speaker 3: I'm incredibly tired of and have never been interested in.

1650
01:19:28,640 --> 01:19:30,720
Speaker 3: That's a tease for later on in the program. So

1651
01:19:30,800 --> 01:19:33,800
Speaker 3: maybe I'll get mine out then. But this is just

1652
01:19:34,280 --> 01:19:36,240
Speaker 3: as long as you don't harp on it, as long

1653
01:19:36,240 --> 01:19:38,200
Speaker 3: as you're not doing twenty minutes trying to make some

1654
01:19:38,360 --> 01:19:40,920
Speaker 3: Jermaine Clever take about it. I think this is about

1655
01:19:40,920 --> 01:19:42,760
Speaker 3: the only take to have about it is it's a thing.

1656
01:19:43,280 --> 01:19:46,040
Speaker 3: It continues to happen every year and will continue until

1657
01:19:46,080 --> 01:19:49,680
Speaker 3: that twenty five year span is out. It's just kind

1658
01:19:49,720 --> 01:19:51,880
Speaker 3: of a quirk and it's the kind of thing you

1659
01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:54,479
Speaker 3: come back to, but you're done talking about before the

1660
01:19:54,640 --> 01:19:56,960
Speaker 3: music that brought you into the segment is done. Like

1661
01:19:57,080 --> 01:19:59,799
Speaker 3: it's not something where there's any there's.

1662
01:19:59,640 --> 01:20:01,440
Speaker 4: No left to uncoverable.

1663
01:20:01,439 --> 01:20:05,040
Speaker 3: No, that's the biggest issue, is like there's nothing new

1664
01:20:05,160 --> 01:20:08,200
Speaker 3: to say here. Uh maybe it's just the facts man

1665
01:20:08,280 --> 01:20:09,120
Speaker 3: moving along.

1666
01:20:09,040 --> 01:20:09,880
Speaker 4: And I'll say this too.

1667
01:20:10,040 --> 01:20:13,559
Speaker 2: Is like Steve Cohen, the owner who you know took

1668
01:20:13,600 --> 01:20:15,439
Speaker 2: over the t a few years ago, has joke like, hey,

1669
01:20:15,479 --> 01:20:17,799
Speaker 2: maybe we should do something to celebrate bring out Bobby Bania,

1670
01:20:17,960 --> 01:20:20,040
Speaker 2: if Boby Bunia comes out, if he makes a speech,

1671
01:20:20,160 --> 01:20:22,840
Speaker 2: if there's a comment, if they have Bobby Bonia bobblehead day.

1672
01:20:22,840 --> 01:20:25,360
Speaker 4: Okay, that's a different conversation. But there's nothing new.

1673
01:20:25,720 --> 01:20:26,040
Speaker 3: By the way.

1674
01:20:26,120 --> 01:20:27,880
Speaker 4: Chris Purfett in the back you had something to add there.

1675
01:20:28,320 --> 01:20:30,400
Speaker 13: Yeah, I just I wonder if you guys think like

1676
01:20:30,479 --> 01:20:32,680
Speaker 13: I think I've thought for a while, Bobby Benia Day

1677
01:20:32,760 --> 01:20:34,960
Speaker 13: is just chance for Mets fans to be annoying and

1678
01:20:35,080 --> 01:20:37,760
Speaker 13: talk about themselves. It's like, this isn't people making fun

1679
01:20:37,800 --> 01:20:39,479
Speaker 13: of the Mets. This is Mets fans do what they

1680
01:20:39,560 --> 01:20:42,280
Speaker 13: love to do, which is just self slatullate themselves. And

1681
01:20:42,360 --> 01:20:43,920
Speaker 13: so many of them seem to run a lot of

1682
01:20:43,960 --> 01:20:46,519
Speaker 13: the sports media that Yeah, this is just Mets fans

1683
01:20:46,680 --> 01:20:47,840
Speaker 13: just like having a.

1684
01:20:47,920 --> 01:20:49,240
Speaker 4: Laugher, and I'm just tired of it.

1685
01:20:49,360 --> 01:20:51,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you'll trying to come up with something clever here,

1686
01:20:52,080 --> 01:20:54,240
Speaker 3: because it's Bobby Bonia Day. What about this? Have you

1687
01:20:54,280 --> 01:20:55,479
Speaker 3: ever heard this one before? Uh?

1688
01:20:55,520 --> 01:20:55,600
Speaker 1: Oh?

1689
01:20:55,800 --> 01:20:57,960
Speaker 3: How about Bobby do Nia?

1690
01:20:58,400 --> 01:20:58,639
Speaker 12: Yeah?

1691
01:20:58,880 --> 01:21:00,960
Speaker 4: Because he gets do he gets to check every year?

1692
01:21:01,080 --> 01:21:01,519
Speaker 5: Did you know?

1693
01:21:02,240 --> 01:21:06,840
Speaker 4: I through five? We got another twelve years. Baby, it's

1694
01:21:06,880 --> 01:21:08,120
Speaker 4: still coming and every year.

1695
01:21:08,160 --> 01:21:11,280
Speaker 2: And I'll probably do this rant July whatever next year too,

1696
01:21:11,479 --> 01:21:13,519
Speaker 2: July first first, Actually will I don't think I'll be

1697
01:21:13,600 --> 01:21:15,519
Speaker 2: on air July first next year because that'll be a

1698
01:21:15,560 --> 01:21:16,320
Speaker 2: different day of the week.

1699
01:21:16,439 --> 01:21:18,519
Speaker 10: So, and by the way, the Rockies with a huge crowd,

1700
01:21:18,560 --> 01:21:20,719
Speaker 10: it's their fireworks night. They're not home July fourth.

1701
01:21:20,880 --> 01:21:24,120
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, they got to I mean in amazing crowd

1702
01:21:24,200 --> 01:21:26,960
Speaker 2: in Colorado. We gotta switch gears. Coming up back to

1703
01:21:27,040 --> 01:21:29,840
Speaker 2: the NBA, Dame Lillard, where is he gonna end up next?

1704
01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:35,320
Speaker 2: We discussed Fox Sports forty Welcome in everybody, Fox Sports Radio,

1705
01:21:36,439 --> 01:21:38,880
Speaker 2: Aaron Torres and Jason Martin. We are taking you up

1706
01:21:38,960 --> 01:21:42,439
Speaker 2: until two am Eastern time. Bernie Freddo will follow us.

1707
01:21:42,520 --> 01:21:44,920
Speaker 2: Bernie Fredda will also join us in our final hour

1708
01:21:45,040 --> 01:21:47,680
Speaker 2: of the show. A lot to get into today, a

1709
01:21:47,680 --> 01:21:49,240
Speaker 2: lot to dig in. But I should mention we are

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Speaker 2: should be busy weekend in the NBA. Jason, Obviously, the

1715
01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:11,960
Speaker 2: NBA trade deadline kicked off last night. There were a

1716
01:22:12,120 --> 01:22:14,240
Speaker 2: free agency period. I should say I was looking at

1717
01:22:14,280 --> 01:22:17,840
Speaker 2: the screen it said trade rumors with Damian Lillard's face

1718
01:22:17,960 --> 01:22:20,320
Speaker 2: on the screen. So Damian Lillard, although he is not

1719
01:22:20,400 --> 01:22:22,679
Speaker 2: a free agent, is the biggest story in the NBA

1720
01:22:22,840 --> 01:22:26,960
Speaker 2: right now, as the Sagre just told you, Uh, Damian

1721
01:22:27,040 --> 01:22:30,720
Speaker 2: Lillard has finally officially requested a trade. It's something that

1722
01:22:30,800 --> 01:22:33,439
Speaker 2: we have been speculating on, not just for the last

1723
01:22:33,479 --> 01:22:35,679
Speaker 2: couple of weeks, but really the last couple of years.

1724
01:22:35,840 --> 01:22:38,920
Speaker 2: Would this day come, would Portland be able to build

1725
01:22:38,920 --> 01:22:43,360
Speaker 2: the contender around him? And obviously the conversation has continued

1726
01:22:43,520 --> 01:22:46,439
Speaker 2: over the last couple of weeks as Damian Lillard, you know,

1727
01:22:47,000 --> 01:22:49,000
Speaker 2: was hoping that they could trade that number three pick

1728
01:22:49,040 --> 01:22:52,000
Speaker 2: for a veteran. Instead, they took Scoot Henderson in the draft,

1729
01:22:52,439 --> 01:22:54,280
Speaker 2: and that seemed to be the writing on the wall

1730
01:22:54,400 --> 01:22:59,200
Speaker 2: for Damian Lillard in Portland. So Jason, you know, for

1731
01:22:59,800 --> 01:23:01,680
Speaker 2: we talked about to leave the show, but I want

1732
01:23:01,720 --> 01:23:04,800
Speaker 2: to reset it for the audience here. Just your first

1733
01:23:04,880 --> 01:23:08,160
Speaker 2: reaction when you heard this news not surprising. And I'll

1734
01:23:08,240 --> 01:23:10,000
Speaker 2: just say, I don't think there's a bad guy here.

1735
01:23:10,080 --> 01:23:12,760
Speaker 2: I think that it's a situation where he gave the

1736
01:23:12,880 --> 01:23:16,240
Speaker 2: city and the organization everything that he had, but it

1737
01:23:16,400 --> 01:23:19,360
Speaker 2: was essentially going to be impossible to build a true contender,

1738
01:23:19,680 --> 01:23:22,040
Speaker 2: to a true team that can compete with the Nuggets,

1739
01:23:22,360 --> 01:23:25,760
Speaker 2: maybe the Lakers in the West with him as the

1740
01:23:25,840 --> 01:23:29,080
Speaker 2: centerpiece and with the pieces that they have, Damian Lillard,

1741
01:23:29,120 --> 01:23:31,920
Speaker 2: James Jason earlier today does officially request the trade.

1742
01:23:33,479 --> 01:23:35,599
Speaker 3: I mean, he's just he's been the guy for such

1743
01:23:35,680 --> 01:23:38,719
Speaker 3: a long period of time. He might just be worn

1744
01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:41,880
Speaker 3: out at this point in time. Not that he wants

1745
01:23:41,920 --> 01:23:43,960
Speaker 3: it to be easier. I think he just wants to

1746
01:23:44,040 --> 01:23:48,599
Speaker 3: be somewhere where the feeling of winning is back, where

1747
01:23:48,640 --> 01:23:51,600
Speaker 3: the feeling of potentially being able to win a championship

1748
01:23:51,760 --> 01:23:54,040
Speaker 3: is back. And it's been a while since Portland's even

1749
01:23:54,680 --> 01:23:58,120
Speaker 3: been in that conversation. And you know, I was reading

1750
01:23:58,400 --> 01:24:01,280
Speaker 3: a few different pieces just over the last few commercial breaks,

1751
01:24:01,280 --> 01:24:03,840
Speaker 3: even because there's new stuff being written seemingly every minute

1752
01:24:03,880 --> 01:24:07,400
Speaker 3: about this, and there are some they're saying, you know,

1753
01:24:07,600 --> 01:24:10,200
Speaker 3: Portland should have done this a few years ago. Portland

1754
01:24:10,200 --> 01:24:12,000
Speaker 3: should have been trying to make this move earlier. They

1755
01:24:12,080 --> 01:24:16,519
Speaker 3: waited too long to do this, like basically they waited

1756
01:24:16,600 --> 01:24:18,720
Speaker 3: until Dame told them, as opposed to trying to make

1757
01:24:18,760 --> 01:24:21,519
Speaker 3: the move earlier when his value was higher. I think

1758
01:24:21,560 --> 01:24:24,320
Speaker 3: he still got a lot of value. I do think

1759
01:24:24,360 --> 01:24:26,679
Speaker 3: there is something to the argument that if you're Portland,

1760
01:24:26,760 --> 01:24:30,040
Speaker 3: what have you gotten holding on over maybe a year

1761
01:24:30,120 --> 01:24:32,400
Speaker 3: too long or two years too long. I don't know.

1762
01:24:32,680 --> 01:24:34,519
Speaker 3: I don't know that you're winning a championship with him

1763
01:24:34,560 --> 01:24:36,639
Speaker 3: or without him, but maybe you're a little bit further

1764
01:24:36,760 --> 01:24:40,000
Speaker 3: along on the rebuilt process. It's not sad. I don't

1765
01:24:40,000 --> 01:24:42,360
Speaker 3: think there's a villain either. I was just a little

1766
01:24:42,400 --> 01:24:47,519
Speaker 3: surprised that the way the Blazers have spoken publicly, the

1767
01:24:47,600 --> 01:24:51,040
Speaker 3: way their front office is talking about it, they're definitely

1768
01:24:51,320 --> 01:24:57,519
Speaker 3: indicating that Lillard's hopes aren't necessarily going to come to fruition.

1769
01:24:57,840 --> 01:25:00,479
Speaker 3: Maybe that means Miami, maybe it doesn't, or maybe it's

1770
01:25:00,560 --> 01:25:02,720
Speaker 3: just trying to create something to wear Miami ponies up

1771
01:25:02,800 --> 01:25:06,320
Speaker 3: more or whatever. I understand that you have a duty

1772
01:25:06,960 --> 01:25:09,000
Speaker 3: to your organization to do the best that you can.

1773
01:25:09,479 --> 01:25:12,960
Speaker 3: It just seemed kind of a little bit more gruff

1774
01:25:13,200 --> 01:25:15,439
Speaker 3: of a comment that I was expecting for somebody as

1775
01:25:15,479 --> 01:25:19,000
Speaker 3: beloved as Lillard has been in that community. But I'm

1776
01:25:19,080 --> 01:25:22,320
Speaker 3: excited about this, if only because I want to see

1777
01:25:22,400 --> 01:25:25,160
Speaker 3: Damian Lillard playing for a relevant team, and I want

1778
01:25:25,200 --> 01:25:27,240
Speaker 3: to see him have a chance at a championship. He's

1779
01:25:27,280 --> 01:25:30,240
Speaker 3: the kind of superstar you should want. He's done everything

1780
01:25:30,280 --> 01:25:34,200
Speaker 3: pretty much right. It's look, it's very similar to eventually

1781
01:25:34,280 --> 01:25:37,120
Speaker 3: Garnett just had to get out of Minnicine. Eventually. It

1782
01:25:37,240 --> 01:25:39,559
Speaker 3: just eventually he did. But he gave everything he had,

1783
01:25:40,040 --> 01:25:42,479
Speaker 3: like he gave them everything that he had, and they

1784
01:25:42,479 --> 01:25:44,320
Speaker 3: couldn't build a champion around him. They coudn't build a

1785
01:25:44,360 --> 01:25:47,360
Speaker 3: champion around anybody. And so he went to Boston finally

1786
01:25:47,720 --> 01:25:49,840
Speaker 3: and he found that success and the rest of the

1787
01:25:49,880 --> 01:25:52,960
Speaker 3: story wrote itself. If anybody has earned the right in

1788
01:25:53,040 --> 01:25:57,320
Speaker 3: the NBA to do that that hasn't skipped town over

1789
01:25:57,400 --> 01:26:00,160
Speaker 3: and over again trying to find a perfect situation, he

1790
01:26:00,400 --> 01:26:03,040
Speaker 3: tried and did everything that he could for the organization.

1791
01:26:03,960 --> 01:26:06,240
Speaker 3: I think it's Damian Lillard. I don't think that. I

1792
01:26:06,320 --> 01:26:10,080
Speaker 3: don't think there's any reason whatsoever to think that this

1793
01:26:10,280 --> 01:26:12,120
Speaker 3: is the wrong move. If he had stayed there, that's

1794
01:26:12,160 --> 01:26:14,160
Speaker 3: not either, because that would mean his priorities are in

1795
01:26:14,200 --> 01:26:18,960
Speaker 3: a different place. He's happy, he's okay, everything's fine, even

1796
01:26:18,960 --> 01:26:21,400
Speaker 3: if he doesn't win a championship. But to me, this

1797
01:26:21,600 --> 01:26:23,840
Speaker 3: is Kevin Garnett two point zero. This is somebody that

1798
01:26:24,160 --> 01:26:26,160
Speaker 3: did all they could and now they're going to move

1799
01:26:26,200 --> 01:26:28,880
Speaker 3: on and they want to win. They want an opportunity

1800
01:26:29,000 --> 01:26:31,080
Speaker 3: to leave their career with a championship, and you can't

1801
01:26:31,120 --> 01:26:31,720
Speaker 3: fault him for it.

1802
01:26:32,080 --> 01:26:35,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of funny because you know, in thinking

1803
01:26:35,120 --> 01:26:37,920
Speaker 2: about our show, and you know, over the last couple

1804
01:26:37,960 --> 01:26:43,240
Speaker 2: of days, is before Dame officially requested a trade, it

1805
01:26:43,360 --> 01:26:48,559
Speaker 2: was Kevin Garnett actually spoke about this exact situation earlier

1806
01:26:48,600 --> 01:26:52,920
Speaker 2: this week, Kevin Garnett, the former Minnesota Timberwolf turned Boston Celtic.

1807
01:26:53,439 --> 01:26:57,559
Speaker 2: And so, you know, I thought that that was going

1808
01:26:57,640 --> 01:26:59,680
Speaker 2: to be our jumping off point because I find a

1809
01:26:59,720 --> 01:27:02,439
Speaker 2: lot of the discourse kind of boring. But I think

1810
01:27:02,520 --> 01:27:04,360
Speaker 2: Kevin Garnett, who has been in this situation, was the

1811
01:27:04,439 --> 01:27:07,880
Speaker 2: perfect person to speak about it, and so he spoke

1812
01:27:07,920 --> 01:27:09,200
Speaker 2: about it earlier this week. We don't have to get

1813
01:27:09,240 --> 01:27:11,320
Speaker 2: into the quotes. He essentially said exactly what you would think.

1814
01:27:11,360 --> 01:27:14,040
Speaker 2: He said, you know, I want Dame to go where

1815
01:27:14,120 --> 01:27:16,760
Speaker 2: he wants to be, all that good stuff. And so

1816
01:27:16,920 --> 01:27:18,439
Speaker 2: I only bring it up because it's funny you bring

1817
01:27:18,520 --> 01:27:21,759
Speaker 2: up Garnett because he actually spoke on this exact situation.

1818
01:27:22,080 --> 01:27:22,800
Speaker 3: I didn't know that.

1819
01:27:24,320 --> 01:27:27,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I'm looking right now, so Showtime Basketball, Damian

1820
01:27:27,439 --> 01:27:29,800
Speaker 2: Liller's value is a lot greater to me than where

1821
01:27:29,880 --> 01:27:30,559
Speaker 2: he's at now.

1822
01:27:31,080 --> 01:27:34,040
Speaker 4: It's that prideful. I've done this work. I made this house,

1823
01:27:34,160 --> 01:27:34,680
Speaker 4: I built it.

1824
01:27:35,520 --> 01:27:38,040
Speaker 2: This is Kevin Garnett talking about Damian Lillard, and he

1825
01:27:38,120 --> 01:27:40,599
Speaker 2: said it's time to leave this house and go build

1826
01:27:40,600 --> 01:27:43,200
Speaker 2: another one. I actually happen to agree with Kevin Garnett.

1827
01:27:43,200 --> 01:27:46,640
Speaker 2: I agree with you is you can give everything to

1828
01:27:46,720 --> 01:27:49,599
Speaker 2: an organization, you can give everything to a city. Listen,

1829
01:27:49,680 --> 01:27:53,160
Speaker 2: not everything is is Raino's and sunshine. And you get

1830
01:27:53,200 --> 01:27:55,759
Speaker 2: to walk off a champion and like the Peyton Manning,

1831
01:27:55,880 --> 01:27:58,320
Speaker 2: winning a Super Bowl and announcing your retirement in the

1832
01:27:58,720 --> 01:28:02,000
Speaker 2: essentially in the post game locker room isn't something that

1833
01:28:02,120 --> 01:28:04,040
Speaker 2: most guys get to do women get to do in

1834
01:28:04,080 --> 01:28:07,599
Speaker 2: professional sports. And so for Damian Lillard, I think it's

1835
01:28:07,800 --> 01:28:11,200
Speaker 2: totally reasonable. I think I speak for ninety nine point

1836
01:28:11,280 --> 01:28:13,439
Speaker 2: nine nine nine nine nine, if not one hundred percent

1837
01:28:13,560 --> 01:28:16,519
Speaker 2: of the basketball viewing audience, that this does not change

1838
01:28:16,640 --> 01:28:19,320
Speaker 2: how I view him. It doesn't make him less of

1839
01:28:19,439 --> 01:28:22,160
Speaker 2: a legend because of the fact that he did this.

1840
01:28:22,720 --> 01:28:25,360
Speaker 2: It was just time for everybody to move on. Now, Jason,

1841
01:28:25,439 --> 01:28:27,040
Speaker 2: let's talk about it, and we and we did have

1842
01:28:27,120 --> 01:28:29,559
Speaker 2: Martin Medina on earlier. If you miss Mark, make sure

1843
01:28:29,600 --> 01:28:32,639
Speaker 2: to download the podcast, and he brought up the point

1844
01:28:32,720 --> 01:28:35,080
Speaker 2: that there's probably going to be a second or third

1845
01:28:35,160 --> 01:28:39,519
Speaker 2: team involved in any potential trade. But all the trade,

1846
01:28:40,000 --> 01:28:42,760
Speaker 2: you know, rumors seem to center around maybe Philadelphia as

1847
01:28:42,760 --> 01:28:45,080
Speaker 2: they're trying to get rid of James Harden. Maybe the

1848
01:28:45,160 --> 01:28:47,760
Speaker 2: Los Angeles Clippers, although I don't know if that would

1849
01:28:47,800 --> 01:28:50,360
Speaker 2: still be on the table as they resigned Russell Westbrook today.

1850
01:28:50,960 --> 01:28:54,160
Speaker 2: And then of course the Miami Heat and Damian Loward

1851
01:28:54,200 --> 01:28:56,679
Speaker 2: a few weeks ago, when he was asked about potentially leaving,

1852
01:28:57,200 --> 01:29:00,479
Speaker 2: he weirdly referenced Brooklyn. But then also, my Miami has

1853
01:29:00,520 --> 01:29:02,320
Speaker 2: places he would want to play. He played with bam

1854
01:29:02,360 --> 01:29:04,240
Speaker 2: Adebayo in the Olympics. I think he has a great

1855
01:29:04,240 --> 01:29:07,040
Speaker 2: deal of respect for bam I'll just say this, Jason,

1856
01:29:07,200 --> 01:29:09,280
Speaker 2: and maybe I'll just frame it to you like this one.

1857
01:29:10,479 --> 01:29:12,639
Speaker 2: It seems like you and I both want him in Miami.

1858
01:29:13,200 --> 01:29:15,679
Speaker 2: If Damian Lillard goes to Miami and the key piece

1859
01:29:15,760 --> 01:29:18,120
Speaker 2: going out would be Tyler Hero but you would have

1860
01:29:18,200 --> 01:29:21,679
Speaker 2: a core of Jimmy Butler, Damian Lillard, and bam Adebayo,

1861
01:29:22,200 --> 01:29:24,599
Speaker 2: I'll just ask you right now, is that a team

1862
01:29:24,640 --> 01:29:26,519
Speaker 2: that is good enough to win an NBA time next year.

1863
01:29:26,840 --> 01:29:31,240
Speaker 3: Yes, I think so. I mean, I do. I think that.

1864
01:29:32,040 --> 01:29:33,840
Speaker 3: I think that Lillard and Butler have a lot in

1865
01:29:33,920 --> 01:29:37,360
Speaker 3: common because both again have had the weight of a

1866
01:29:37,439 --> 01:29:40,720
Speaker 3: franchise on their shoulders, and although they have had some

1867
01:29:40,920 --> 01:29:44,759
Speaker 3: nice supporting pieces, at various times, I felt like Butler

1868
01:29:44,880 --> 01:29:49,080
Speaker 3: ran out of gas when Miami finally ran into their

1869
01:29:49,120 --> 01:29:51,320
Speaker 3: kryptonite and weren't able to make it to the you know,

1870
01:29:51,400 --> 01:29:53,200
Speaker 3: weren't able to make it to the stand, weren't able

1871
01:29:53,240 --> 01:29:56,200
Speaker 3: to win that. Larry O'Brien, he was just done for eventually.

1872
01:29:56,320 --> 01:29:58,439
Speaker 3: He just he had played so many minutes, he played

1873
01:29:58,479 --> 01:30:00,639
Speaker 3: so hard, he was coming back off injury, all those things.

1874
01:30:01,080 --> 01:30:03,840
Speaker 3: Lillard we've seen just wear down in the playoffs. We've

1875
01:30:03,840 --> 01:30:07,200
Speaker 3: seen him even deal with little little bit of injuries

1876
01:30:07,840 --> 01:30:09,360
Speaker 3: that start to creep up, and a lot of it

1877
01:30:09,439 --> 01:30:11,760
Speaker 3: is because of how many minutes he is playing. I

1878
01:30:11,800 --> 01:30:13,680
Speaker 3: think there's a lot of similarities. But I think those

1879
01:30:13,760 --> 01:30:18,000
Speaker 3: two guys both want to win, and they're both the

1880
01:30:18,200 --> 01:30:21,840
Speaker 3: kind of guys you want that you They're killers, They're

1881
01:30:21,840 --> 01:30:23,880
Speaker 3: guys that are gonna go out there and give you

1882
01:30:24,000 --> 01:30:27,680
Speaker 3: everything that they have. You add those two guys to Spolstra,

1883
01:30:28,720 --> 01:30:30,760
Speaker 3: and you make some solid moves, which is what pat

1884
01:30:30,840 --> 01:30:34,439
Speaker 3: Riley and that organization have done forever. Absolutely I do.

1885
01:30:34,560 --> 01:30:36,600
Speaker 3: I mean, who else am I gonna look at Philadelphia?

1886
01:30:36,640 --> 01:30:38,760
Speaker 3: I'm not sure I trust him being I'm really just

1887
01:30:38,880 --> 01:30:41,960
Speaker 3: not sure the Knicks. Maybe you know the Knicks are

1888
01:30:41,960 --> 01:30:44,240
Speaker 3: gonna be better, but I still don't. I'm not placing

1889
01:30:44,280 --> 01:30:46,640
Speaker 3: them up in the escheloon. It's basically to me at

1890
01:30:46,680 --> 01:30:48,360
Speaker 3: that point, it's the Bucks in the Heat that I

1891
01:30:48,439 --> 01:30:51,160
Speaker 3: trust the most because I'm still not sure Boston's made

1892
01:30:51,240 --> 01:30:53,920
Speaker 3: himselves better. We got to see Jalen Brown was the

1893
01:30:53,960 --> 01:30:56,599
Speaker 3: piece that I felt like, that's where you can make

1894
01:30:56,640 --> 01:30:59,320
Speaker 3: yourself better. I don't know that Marcus Smart does. I

1895
01:30:59,320 --> 01:31:01,519
Speaker 3: don't know what Chris sportszingis is gonna bring you by

1896
01:31:01,560 --> 01:31:04,800
Speaker 3: that point. Now, maybe he is perfect for them, we'll see.

1897
01:31:04,920 --> 01:31:09,120
Speaker 3: But I think this absolutely makes the Heat a contender

1898
01:31:09,200 --> 01:31:13,599
Speaker 3: to win a championship like Lillard and Butler and Spolstra alone.

1899
01:31:13,720 --> 01:31:16,040
Speaker 3: And then you feel the a lot of guys were

1900
01:31:16,080 --> 01:31:19,120
Speaker 3: coming along last year that you feel like would still

1901
01:31:19,160 --> 01:31:21,120
Speaker 3: be able to as long as you don't have to

1902
01:31:21,200 --> 01:31:24,559
Speaker 3: give up everything that you're building in order to get Dame.

1903
01:31:24,920 --> 01:31:26,599
Speaker 3: I think absolutely put you in the mix.

1904
01:31:26,880 --> 01:31:28,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, it'll be interesting. First of all, I do agree.

1905
01:31:28,760 --> 01:31:33,400
Speaker 2: I think that it would make them a contender. I obviously, listen,

1906
01:31:33,560 --> 01:31:35,880
Speaker 2: I'm not breaking any news here. I think Denver, you know,

1907
01:31:35,960 --> 01:31:38,839
Speaker 2: assuming nothing bad happens in the offseason, should be considered

1908
01:31:38,880 --> 01:31:41,719
Speaker 2: the favorite. Denver did lose Bruce Brown off their championship

1909
01:31:41,760 --> 01:31:45,280
Speaker 2: roster yesterday, but listen, this is a Miami Heat team,

1910
01:31:45,360 --> 01:31:47,200
Speaker 2: and I know Jannis got hurt, but this is a

1911
01:31:47,320 --> 01:31:51,160
Speaker 2: Miami Heat team that without Damian Lillard, just beat the

1912
01:31:51,200 --> 01:31:53,559
Speaker 2: Bucks in the playoffs in the first round, and again,

1913
01:31:53,560 --> 01:31:55,120
Speaker 2: I know Giannis was hurt for part of that, and

1914
01:31:55,200 --> 01:31:57,920
Speaker 2: beat the Boston Celtics in the Eastern Conference Finals, and

1915
01:31:58,080 --> 01:32:00,400
Speaker 2: is we're one shot away from beating them back to

1916
01:32:00,479 --> 01:32:02,680
Speaker 2: back years in the Eastern Conference Finals. So I think

1917
01:32:02,680 --> 01:32:08,200
Speaker 2: they'd absolutely be probably the co favorites, maybe with Milwaukee

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Speaker 2: in the East. And I think this would change the

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Speaker 2: dynamic of that entire organization.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: It'd be interesting because obviously it goes without saying Gave

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Speaker 2: Vincent signed with the Lakers in free agency. Max Struce

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Speaker 2: left a couple of days left yesterday as well. But

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Speaker 2: there really is no team that's better at clearly finding

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Speaker 2: guys that maybe others don't see the value in than

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Speaker 2: the Miami Heat. So I'm with you, Jason. I think

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Speaker 2: this makes them a contender, and I'll just take it

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Speaker 2: a step further. I do hope this is where Dame

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Speaker 2: Lollard ends up the Miami Heat, because I think it's

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Speaker 2: the best not only for him, but also for the

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Speaker 2: NBA for narratives, for storylines, and I think it makes

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Speaker 2: for the most interesting scenario that we could possibly have.

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Speaker 2: the biggest move in the NBA didn't actually come on

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Speaker 2: the court yesterday. We explained Next. Fox Sports Radio, Welcome back, everybody,

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Speaker 2: just want to hit on a couple other kind of

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Speaker 2: quick hitters in the NBA free agency stuff that has

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Speaker 2: popped so far.

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Speaker 3: What I'll ask you this.

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Speaker 2: You know, I think we had some technical difficulties in

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Speaker 2: our one. I talked a lot about the the Lakers moves,

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Speaker 2: and you were unavailable to kind of respond to me.

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Speaker 2: It was a great segment because I got no pushback

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Speaker 2: on anything I said. But I like, and I think

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Speaker 2: you even reference this with with Mark Mark Mark Medina

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Speaker 2: was I like that they continue to build this team

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Speaker 2: around not only Lebron and Ad but the pieces and

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Speaker 2: how they fit. So you added gave Vincent, you add

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Speaker 2: Cam Reddish floor, spacing backups, role players, guys that are

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Speaker 2: comfortable playing roles. And I look at this roster with

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Speaker 2: Austin Reeves now back, with Ruy hot Chimoor now back,

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Speaker 2: and with these additions, I think based on it. And

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Speaker 2: now keep in mind too, remember the Lakers had the

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Speaker 2: best record in the NBA post trade deadline I think

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Speaker 2: this is the second best team in the NBA right now,

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Speaker 2: behind the Denver Nuggets.

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Speaker 3: What say you second in the NBA or second in

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Speaker 3: the West.

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Speaker 4: They play they I mean, they play the Nuggets tougher

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Speaker 4: than the Heat did.

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Speaker 12: Well.

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Speaker 3: I'm not well, okay, I mean that's fair. I wanted

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Speaker 3: clarification before we went any further, because you know, there's

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Speaker 3: still Milwaukee out there, and there's still some other teams

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Speaker 3: out there. They're pretty solid Phoenix, that'll be interesting to watch.

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Speaker 3: But I tend to agree with you. I mean, I

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Speaker 3: like everything that they did. I'm not a big fan

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Speaker 3: of the D'Angelo Russell deal, but at least it didn't

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Speaker 3: pay a ton of money. As Medina told us, it

1981
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Speaker 3: was team friendly. I just thought he was a net

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Speaker 3: negative for that team in the playoffs, especially as it

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Speaker 3: went deeper, and he became kind of an attitude problem.

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Speaker 3: On top of that. Reeves and Haschimura, those were the

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Speaker 3: two that you had to find a way, in my opinion,

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Speaker 3: and the old Laker move ain't quite Frankly, the old

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Speaker 3: Lebron James GM move would be to go find the

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Speaker 3: third superstar and them choosing not to do so, resisting

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Speaker 3: the temptation to bring in Kyrie or whatever it was

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Speaker 3: that you were going to try and pull off. The

1991
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Speaker 3: only thing that you heard that they tried to do

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Speaker 3: that they weren't able to do was get Bruce Brown

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Speaker 3: because he ended up going to the Pacers. But I

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Speaker 3: can understand why you would want a Bruce Brown after

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Speaker 3: watching what he did with that Nugget team on that

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Speaker 3: championship run. But this is a team that clearly believes

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Speaker 3: that they already have a lot and that they just

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Speaker 3: wanted to kind of fill in some gaps. They didn't

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Speaker 3: need to go overhaul the whole roster they need to

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Speaker 3: do anything. I mean, they won eighteen to the last

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Speaker 3: twenty four in the regular season, look good in the playoffs.

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Speaker 13: You know.

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Speaker 3: I think by the time they were knocked out they

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Speaker 3: were playing with house money. There's no reason to do

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Speaker 3: anything radical. Sometimes the boring thing is the right thing,

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Speaker 3: and to me, that's what the Lakers did. They actually

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Speaker 3: showed they have confidence in what's being built and what's

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Speaker 3: already there, and that spells good things for them. I

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Speaker 3: agree with you, like I don't know if I go

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Speaker 3: so far as to say the NBA, but I definitely

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Speaker 3: think they're the number one contenders to the Nuggets out West.

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Speaker 3: There's definitely some other teams that will have something to

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Speaker 3: say about that, and they could easily you could easily

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Speaker 3: be right. I mean maybe on the right day you

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Speaker 3: could actually talk me into that argument. But they are

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Speaker 3: a top five team without question right now. And I

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Speaker 3: think that basically since the trade deadline, when Polenka's pulled

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Speaker 3: the right triggers, he's been the best executive in basketball.

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Speaker 3: After being much maligned and killed left and right for

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Speaker 3: these decisions and those decisions, this has worked out quite well.

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Speaker 3: And I think that the confidence that they showed here

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Speaker 3: proves they know it worked.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, and I give him credit because you know,

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Speaker 2: has really taken over the reins and I get I

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Speaker 2: give ownership credit too for pushing back on Lebron James,

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Speaker 2: who you know, in previous moments. I don't know how

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Speaker 2: much this offseason has tried to strong arm them into

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Speaker 2: some moves, and really they've resisted over the last couple

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Speaker 2: last couple kind of cycles here should mention really quick,

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Speaker 2: you know, in terms of playing the Nuggets closer than

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Speaker 2: I think a lot of people remember Game one, they

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Speaker 2: lose by six.

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Speaker 4: Game two, they lose by five.

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Speaker 2: Game four they lose by two, So three games decided

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Speaker 2: by six point tis or less in that Western Conference Finals.

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Speaker 4: Credit to the Denver Nuggets for closing.

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Speaker 2: But at the same time, also I don't think the

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Speaker 2: Lakers were that far away from stealing a couple of

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Speaker 2: those games. Maybe with some more continuity and time with

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Speaker 2: this group, they'll be good to go really quickly.

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Speaker 4: Jason.

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Speaker 2: Another one that caught my eye last night, and in

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Speaker 2: the grand scheme, it's probably doesn't feel big, but I

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Speaker 2: think for the message that it sends. Derek Rose Memphis Grizzlies,

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Speaker 2: because we talked last week Marcus Smart.

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Speaker 4: You know Marcus Smart.

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Speaker 2: You could criticize he runs hot, he's emotional, but he

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Speaker 2: shows up every day and he loves the ball and

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Speaker 2: he's all about basketball. Derek Rose much the same, just

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Speaker 2: has really turned into just a very steadying veteran presence.

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Speaker 2: That's the reason that Tom Thibodeau keeps bringing him to

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Speaker 2: wherever he ends up, whether it was Minnesota previously or

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Speaker 2: more recently the New York Knicks. For the last couple

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Speaker 2: of years, he's head into Minnesota, and I think the

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Speaker 2: message to me about Minnesota has been pretty clear this

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Speaker 2: or I keep seeing Minnesota Memphis I palled as the

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Speaker 2: Memphis Grizzlies. The message to me seems pretty clear. We

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Speaker 2: have a young, dynamic superstar in John Morant. We are

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Speaker 2: going to surround him with adults. Dylan Brooks is gone.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna surround him with professionals, and we're gonna teach

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Speaker 2: him how to be a professional. And I think that's

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Speaker 2: the message that I see with this Derek Rose signing

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Speaker 2: on Friday Night.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of this is about eliminating chaos, and

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Speaker 3: a lot of it is about it's time to grow up.

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Speaker 3: And this is what we said when they got knocked

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Speaker 3: out of the playoffs this past season, before all the

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01:39:32,280 --> 01:39:34,280
Speaker 3: other jaw stuff came back in and we had to

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Speaker 3: talk about it again, was I need to see them

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Speaker 3: stop talking and just go out and play basketball, because

2071
01:39:41,439 --> 01:39:43,280
Speaker 3: we know how good they are. They gave the MAX

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Speaker 3: extension to Desmond Bayne and he earned it. He's a

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Speaker 3: great player, and we know what John is capable of doing.

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Speaker 3: And I'm rooting hard, hard, hard that the worst is

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Speaker 3: behind him. He's gonna learn and he's gonna come back

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Speaker 3: and be the best version of himself. Rose is an

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Speaker 3: adult won him in the locker room. Just like you mentioned,

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Speaker 3: Marcus Smart is a much better version of Dylan Brooks,

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Speaker 3: and he has experience on a championship level, and Dylan

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Speaker 3: Brooks is a massive addition. By subtraction, he was exactly

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Speaker 3: the wrong thing for them. They need to tone down

2082
01:40:19,280 --> 01:40:21,880
Speaker 3: some of the antics. They need to be known for

2083
01:40:22,000 --> 01:40:25,240
Speaker 3: what they're doing on the floor, not how they behave

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Speaker 3: after the whistle blows and all those kinds of things.

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Speaker 3: This spells good things for them. They're a team that

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Speaker 3: I think has made themselves better. I don't know what

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Speaker 3: Rose is gonna do for you on the floor, but

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Speaker 3: I just think having him around is not going to

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Speaker 3: be a negative for your organization. And I definitely think

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Speaker 3: Marcus Smart makes them better.

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Speaker 2: Totally agree on all fronts. Totally agree on all fronts there.

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio aeron Torus Jason Martin. I'll tell you what, Jason,

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Speaker 2: there was one big piece of what is now I

2094
01:40:52,120 --> 01:40:55,160
Speaker 2: guess you could call free agency news. It happened actually

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01:40:55,200 --> 01:40:58,280
Speaker 2: away from the player side of things, but this is

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Speaker 2: as big as any transaction that happen on Friday. We'll

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Speaker 2: explain next Before we do, though, let's toss it over

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Speaker 2: the news desk Steve de Saga, what's running.

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Speaker 10: Among the many NBA items. Houston will sign Dylan Brooks

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Speaker 10: from Memphis four years, eighty million dollars. Cleveland acquired Max

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Speaker 10: Trusex of Miami. He gets four years sixty three million.

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Speaker 10: Milwaukee resigned center Brook Lopez. The Clippers resigned Russell Westbrook.

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Speaker 10: The Lakers resigned D'angela Russell and Austin Reeves. The Hornets

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Speaker 10: will give guard LaMelo Ball a five year extension. The

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Speaker 10: Trailblazers superstar guard Damian Lillard requested a trade formally in

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Speaker 10: the last twenty four hours, and the ESPN report late

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Speaker 10: tonight that the Sacramento Kings are giving Demantis Sabonis a

2108
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Speaker 10: new five year deal. The NBA's free agency period started

2109
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Speaker 10: last night. As for MLB's scoreboard, two games still going

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Speaker 10: in Anaheim. Top of the ninth. It's the Anaheim Angels

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Speaker 10: losing again.

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Speaker 3: The lead for the.

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Speaker 10: Arizona the first place Arizona Diamondbacks is three to one

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Speaker 10: over the Halos in the top. It's looking like the

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Speaker 10: Dbacks will go three games up on the Dodgers and Giants.

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Speaker 10: Giants lost four to one to the Mets and justin

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Speaker 10: Verland today. The Dodgers lost at Kansas City tonight after

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Speaker 10: a near one and a half hour rain delay at

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Speaker 10: the start. They gave up five in the first. Kansas

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Speaker 10: City beat him six to four. The loss to Julio

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Speaker 10: Arius also still going in Major League Baseball, the game

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Speaker 10: that had an even longer rain delay at the start

2123
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Speaker 10: at Wrigley Field, nearly two and a half hour's worth.

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Speaker 10: It's Guardian six nothing over the Cubs in the top

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Speaker 10: of the eighth. Right now, Seattle beat Tampa Bay eight three.

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Speaker 10: Saint Louis split a doubleheader with the Yankees, ten inning

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Speaker 10: wins for Oakland and Detroit. Philadelphia down Washington nineteen to four,

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Speaker 10: and the Braves won their seventh in a row seven

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Speaker 10: to nothing against Miami. NASCAR's Inxfinity race in Chicago was

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Speaker 10: postponed to tomorrow morning due to bad weather. There's also

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Speaker 10: a chance of rain there tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: During the day.

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Speaker 10: Ricky Fowler, who has not won on tour in four years,

2134
01:42:54,200 --> 01:42:57,160
Speaker 10: leads the PGA Tour stop in Detroit by one stroke.

2135
01:42:57,680 --> 01:43:00,640
Speaker 10: Chance of rain there tomorrow. Bryson Deshamba leads by one

2136
01:43:00,680 --> 01:43:04,440
Speaker 10: at the Livgolf event in Spain. Birmingham took the USFL

2137
01:43:04,600 --> 01:43:08,400
Speaker 10: championship game tonight. US Men's Soccers in Charlotte tomorrow night

2138
01:43:08,479 --> 01:43:11,639
Speaker 10: on Fox TV seven pm Eastern Time, continuing the Gold

2139
01:43:11,720 --> 01:43:15,960
Speaker 10: Cup Tournament, finishing up group play against Trinidad. And there

2140
01:43:16,120 --> 01:43:18,360
Speaker 10: was a perfect game in baseball this week, And what

2141
01:43:18,560 --> 01:43:20,880
Speaker 10: was brought up on the show Before You tonight was

2142
01:43:21,160 --> 01:43:24,120
Speaker 10: among the perfect games in our lifetimes. Was one that

2143
01:43:24,280 --> 01:43:27,360
Speaker 10: happened on the final day of a season. Mike Witt

2144
01:43:27,439 --> 01:43:30,519
Speaker 10: of the Angels nineteen eighty four, a one nothing perfect

2145
01:43:30,600 --> 01:43:33,800
Speaker 10: game at Texas, a Sunday afternoon game in front of

2146
01:43:33,880 --> 01:43:36,680
Speaker 10: only eight thousand. The crowd time of the game was

2147
01:43:36,720 --> 01:43:39,400
Speaker 10: an hour forty nine. These are two teams that were

2148
01:43:40,120 --> 01:43:42,120
Speaker 10: can we say mailing it in? Neither We're going to

2149
01:43:42,200 --> 01:43:45,920
Speaker 10: the playoffs. Texas was dead last that year. The thing is,

2150
01:43:46,080 --> 01:43:48,360
Speaker 10: I looked it up. Mike wit only threw ninety four

2151
01:43:48,479 --> 01:43:51,799
Speaker 10: pitches in a perfect game, which, aside from David Cohn's

2152
01:43:51,840 --> 01:43:54,560
Speaker 10: Perfect Game, is the fewest number of pitches thrown in

2153
01:43:54,640 --> 01:43:58,360
Speaker 10: a perfecto in our lifetimes. The strange thing and the

2154
01:43:58,439 --> 01:44:00,760
Speaker 10: reason why I bring it up is I heard the

2155
01:44:00,920 --> 01:44:04,760
Speaker 10: final few innings of that game because it was never

2156
01:44:04,880 --> 01:44:09,400
Speaker 10: aired live in the LA area. The RAM station was

2157
01:44:09,520 --> 01:44:12,360
Speaker 10: the Angel station at that time, and they carried the

2158
01:44:12,479 --> 01:44:15,400
Speaker 10: Rams home game in Anaheim live when they beat the

2159
01:44:15,479 --> 01:44:18,760
Speaker 10: Giant Sunday afternoon, and then went to the Angels game,

2160
01:44:19,439 --> 01:44:22,040
Speaker 10: which I already knew the result of some guy's going

2161
01:44:22,080 --> 01:44:24,400
Speaker 10: to throw a perfect game, so I listened to it.

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01:44:25,040 --> 01:44:28,880
Speaker 10: You wouldn't believe the announcer, Ron Fairley, how shall we

2163
01:44:29,000 --> 01:44:32,360
Speaker 10: say awful? He was calling this perfect game. He was

2164
01:44:32,439 --> 01:44:35,679
Speaker 10: saying things like, Wow, this is this is the best

2165
01:44:35,720 --> 01:44:37,960
Speaker 10: game we've seen an Angel pitch, maybe this whole year.

2166
01:44:38,000 --> 01:44:39,160
Speaker 3: It's a perfect game?

2167
01:44:39,360 --> 01:44:42,439
Speaker 10: Are you kidding? At one point, the perfecto is still

2168
01:44:42,479 --> 01:44:45,559
Speaker 10: alive seventh inning, late in the game, and he's saying

2169
01:44:45,640 --> 01:44:48,479
Speaker 10: things like, so the playoffs are starting a few days.

2170
01:44:48,560 --> 01:44:50,479
Speaker 10: You like the patres of the cops and it comes

2171
01:44:50,520 --> 01:44:52,320
Speaker 10: over the padres. Who do you like, I'm I'm mailing

2172
01:44:52,360 --> 01:44:52,519
Speaker 10: it in?

2173
01:44:52,680 --> 01:44:52,880
Speaker 3: Huh?

2174
01:44:53,960 --> 01:44:54,960
Speaker 4: Just the players on the field.

2175
01:44:55,040 --> 01:44:59,000
Speaker 10: Yeah, you are not kidding. But a perfect game that

2176
01:44:59,200 --> 01:45:02,160
Speaker 10: was not a live nineteen eighty four back to.

2177
01:45:02,160 --> 01:45:04,280
Speaker 2: You, Thank you very much, Steve Sager. That is a

2178
01:45:04,439 --> 01:45:07,880
Speaker 2: wild stead of course, a perfect game. Earlier this week

2179
01:45:08,000 --> 01:45:11,479
Speaker 2: in Oakland, Fox Sports Radio erratoris Jason Martin, broadcasting live

2180
01:45:11,520 --> 01:45:13,679
Speaker 2: from the tirec dot com studio is about ten minutes

2181
01:45:13,720 --> 01:45:17,240
Speaker 2: from now to Sega will rejoin us for his extended update. So, Jason,

2182
01:45:17,240 --> 01:45:20,160
Speaker 2: I've teased a few times there was big, you know,

2183
01:45:20,439 --> 01:45:24,439
Speaker 2: transactional news outside of just the guys on the court yesterday.

2184
01:45:25,520 --> 01:45:27,000
Speaker 4: Let me set this up and give me a second

2185
01:45:27,000 --> 01:45:27,439
Speaker 4: to explain.

2186
01:45:27,520 --> 01:45:33,320
Speaker 2: But obviously we all anyone who follows sports kind of

2187
01:45:33,400 --> 01:45:36,000
Speaker 2: saw that it was a tough day yesterday at ESPN.

2188
01:45:36,680 --> 01:45:41,920
Speaker 2: Multiple high profile employees were laid off. And you know, listen,

2189
01:45:42,000 --> 01:45:44,880
Speaker 2: I think there's some people in our business who seem

2190
01:45:44,960 --> 01:45:47,240
Speaker 2: to enjoy like talking about stuff like this, and I

2191
01:45:47,320 --> 01:45:51,479
Speaker 2: always find it weird talking about another network and other people.

2192
01:45:51,600 --> 01:45:53,960
Speaker 2: And I've been in a situation where I've been laid off.

2193
01:45:54,040 --> 01:45:56,400
Speaker 2: It's not fun, it's not cool, it's not funny, it's

2194
01:45:56,439 --> 01:45:58,240
Speaker 2: not whatever. And so I want to use that as

2195
01:45:58,280 --> 01:46:02,719
Speaker 2: a backdrop. But why I bring it up is because, well, obviously,

2196
01:46:03,240 --> 01:46:06,519
Speaker 2: you know, I understand business and all that. I thought,

2197
01:46:07,160 --> 01:46:12,000
Speaker 2: in my opinion, one of the truly irreplaceable voices in

2198
01:46:12,240 --> 01:46:15,720
Speaker 2: all of sports was essentially replaced, and that was the

2199
01:46:15,840 --> 01:46:18,880
Speaker 2: news that Jeff Van Gundy was let go by ESPN. Again,

2200
01:46:18,920 --> 01:46:21,439
Speaker 2: I'm not here to say why it was done or

2201
01:46:21,600 --> 01:46:23,479
Speaker 2: was it right, was it wrong. It's not my business

2202
01:46:23,520 --> 01:46:26,680
Speaker 2: decision to make. I will say, out of all of

2203
01:46:26,800 --> 01:46:29,640
Speaker 2: the moves that were made yesterday, really only two shocked mee.

2204
01:46:29,720 --> 01:46:33,360
Speaker 2: One was Todd McShay, a great NFL draft expert. The

2205
01:46:33,439 --> 01:46:35,599
Speaker 2: other one was Jeff Van Gundy because when I think

2206
01:46:35,800 --> 01:46:38,680
Speaker 2: NBA Finals, when I think the last whatever it is

2207
01:46:38,760 --> 01:46:42,719
Speaker 2: fifteen or so years, the combination of him, Mark Jackson,

2208
01:46:42,720 --> 01:46:44,759
Speaker 2: who obviously left for a few years to coach the Warriors,

2209
01:46:44,840 --> 01:46:48,519
Speaker 2: but those three with Mike Breen have been so iconic.

2210
01:46:49,120 --> 01:46:51,400
Speaker 4: I was stunned. I get the sense that if Jeff

2211
01:46:51,439 --> 01:46:54,040
Speaker 4: Van Gunny wants to continue in media, he'll be able

2212
01:46:54,120 --> 01:46:54,519
Speaker 4: to do so.

2213
01:46:55,520 --> 01:46:57,519
Speaker 2: That was a shocker, Jason, And I'll say this is

2214
01:46:57,600 --> 01:47:02,080
Speaker 2: I think it fundamentally affects how we consume the NBA.

2215
01:47:02,280 --> 01:47:05,280
Speaker 2: I'm less interested in watching the NBA today if Jeff

2216
01:47:05,320 --> 01:47:08,400
Speaker 2: Van Gundy isn't on the call. I was stunned yesterday, Jason.

2217
01:47:08,160 --> 01:47:09,880
Speaker 3: I really was. Yeah, that was not a name I

2218
01:47:10,080 --> 01:47:12,679
Speaker 3: was expecting some of the others that were on the list,

2219
01:47:12,760 --> 01:47:14,920
Speaker 3: maybe a little bit more so. There were some that had,

2220
01:47:15,760 --> 01:47:17,280
Speaker 3: you know, it seemed like they had kind of there

2221
01:47:17,320 --> 01:47:19,880
Speaker 3: had been like a stay of execution, if you will,

2222
01:47:20,160 --> 01:47:24,120
Speaker 3: over years for some people that like Susie Colbert had

2223
01:47:24,120 --> 01:47:25,920
Speaker 3: been there for a very long time, right, but she

2224
01:47:26,200 --> 01:47:28,040
Speaker 3: was also known to be kind of difficult to work with.

2225
01:47:28,200 --> 01:47:30,280
Speaker 3: At least she was always seen as you know, it

2226
01:47:30,400 --> 01:47:33,599
Speaker 3: was her and Keith Olberman early early on on Sports

2227
01:47:33,600 --> 01:47:35,960
Speaker 3: Center kind of ruffling feathers and causing trouble. I don't

2228
01:47:35,960 --> 01:47:38,360
Speaker 3: know maybe if that had changed in recent years. And

2229
01:47:38,439 --> 01:47:41,120
Speaker 3: then there were some guys that I just felt like

2230
01:47:41,760 --> 01:47:43,880
Speaker 3: and I feel like the four letter has a tendency

2231
01:47:43,960 --> 01:47:47,400
Speaker 3: to do this, just over expose some people just put

2232
01:47:47,439 --> 01:47:49,840
Speaker 3: them on every show all the time, like we need

2233
01:47:49,920 --> 01:47:52,720
Speaker 3: to see that. And I think sometimes we start to

2234
01:47:52,800 --> 01:47:55,000
Speaker 3: see some flaws and we start to see some limitations

2235
01:47:55,040 --> 01:47:59,000
Speaker 3: when that happens. But to your point, and I saw

2236
01:47:59,120 --> 01:48:01,160
Speaker 3: Richard ditch the aft, lets say this, and I agree

2237
01:48:01,200 --> 01:48:05,120
Speaker 3: with him, Like NBA broadcasts feel like big time, and

2238
01:48:06,120 --> 01:48:08,840
Speaker 3: Van Gundy's voice was one of those voices where all right,

2239
01:48:08,880 --> 01:48:11,519
Speaker 3: well this game matters, and we don't know what happened

2240
01:48:11,680 --> 01:48:13,120
Speaker 3: to see if we don't know if he was difficult

2241
01:48:13,280 --> 01:48:16,000
Speaker 3: or whatever was going on, we do know he still

2242
01:48:16,040 --> 01:48:19,479
Speaker 3: had time left on his contract, and according to Ditsch,

2243
01:48:20,080 --> 01:48:25,880
Speaker 3: this caught him completely off guard. I think another part

2244
01:48:25,960 --> 01:48:30,240
Speaker 3: of this is that Disney is in trouble. Disney is

2245
01:48:30,280 --> 01:48:32,400
Speaker 3: dealing with a lot of political issues, but they're also

2246
01:48:32,479 --> 01:48:34,840
Speaker 3: dealing with a whole lot of money being lost with

2247
01:48:34,960 --> 01:48:37,720
Speaker 3: some of the decisions that they have been making, and

2248
01:48:37,800 --> 01:48:40,280
Speaker 3: we're starting to see some of the ramifications of that.

2249
01:48:40,520 --> 01:48:42,720
Speaker 3: The chickens are starting to come home to roost on it.

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Speaker 3: The thing that kind of shocked me was this in

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01:48:46,320 --> 01:48:48,360
Speaker 3: Ditsch's piece of The Athletic. I just pulled it up.

2252
01:48:48,920 --> 01:48:52,639
Speaker 3: The likely replacement will come from a group of Doris Burke,

2253
01:48:53,040 --> 01:48:56,760
Speaker 3: JJ Reddick, your boy or a recently fired coach such

2254
01:48:56,800 --> 01:48:59,160
Speaker 3: as Doc Rivers, and then he says all of them

2255
01:48:59,160 --> 01:49:01,160
Speaker 3: are talented broadcast. This would be great to see Burke

2256
01:49:01,200 --> 01:49:04,080
Speaker 3: continue to make history as a pioneering NBA voice. But

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01:49:04,280 --> 01:49:08,120
Speaker 3: this decision is brutal. That's from Ditch. I said this

2258
01:49:08,200 --> 01:49:10,360
Speaker 3: to you in a text message. I think Doris Burk's talented,

2259
01:49:10,439 --> 01:49:13,720
Speaker 3: but I've never really quite understood the hero worship that

2260
01:49:13,880 --> 01:49:17,160
Speaker 3: she was something super special about her or something like

2261
01:49:17,280 --> 01:49:20,840
Speaker 3: whenever she asked questions to coaches after they won championships.

2262
01:49:20,880 --> 01:49:23,120
Speaker 3: It was like, Oh, Doris Burke, my goodness, she's my

2263
01:49:23,200 --> 01:49:26,320
Speaker 3: spirit animal. I never got it with you. I know

2264
01:49:26,439 --> 01:49:28,080
Speaker 3: I sound like a hater, but I just I just

2265
01:49:28,160 --> 01:49:31,200
Speaker 3: flat out don't get it. Losing him is a huge deal.

2266
01:49:31,720 --> 01:49:35,200
Speaker 3: It's a big deal, and I can't He'll be doing something.

2267
01:49:35,280 --> 01:49:37,519
Speaker 3: Maybe we're gonna get to hear him call NCAA tournament

2268
01:49:37,600 --> 01:49:40,280
Speaker 3: games now. I mean it's brothers doing it. If he

2269
01:49:40,360 --> 01:49:42,840
Speaker 3: wants to keep going, I'm sure he's gonna have a

2270
01:49:42,960 --> 01:49:45,559
Speaker 3: multitude of options. I'm sure he doesn't need to either,

2271
01:49:45,600 --> 01:49:47,200
Speaker 3: with the money that he's made. Maybe he just wants

2272
01:49:47,240 --> 01:49:50,000
Speaker 3: to go to the house. But he's tremendous. He was

2273
01:49:50,040 --> 01:49:52,040
Speaker 3: good at what he did because he was actually willing

2274
01:49:52,200 --> 01:49:55,920
Speaker 3: to call people out. It wasn't bubblegum journalism out there.

2275
01:49:55,960 --> 01:49:57,880
Speaker 3: He actually told you what was happening and what he

2276
01:49:57,960 --> 01:49:59,880
Speaker 3: thought when he disagreed with a ref, when he just

2277
01:50:00,080 --> 01:50:04,080
Speaker 3: agreed with a player, when he was frustrated. He called

2278
01:50:04,120 --> 01:50:07,360
Speaker 3: games the way he coached, and I really appreciated it,

2279
01:50:07,680 --> 01:50:11,200
Speaker 3: appreciated for appreciated him for that, and I feel like

2280
01:50:11,280 --> 01:50:15,280
Speaker 3: this is a big time l for ESPN and a

2281
01:50:15,520 --> 01:50:16,360
Speaker 3: massive loss.

2282
01:50:16,960 --> 01:50:19,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, and and first of all, if you hire Doc Rivers,

2283
01:50:20,280 --> 01:50:22,639
Speaker 2: you're just spending money that you're supposed to be whatever.

2284
01:50:23,160 --> 01:50:26,080
Speaker 2: But like, I think the thing that stands out to

2285
01:50:26,200 --> 01:50:29,320
Speaker 2: me is, you know, ESPN has been criticized for their

2286
01:50:29,439 --> 01:50:31,400
Speaker 2: NBA coverage, so they can't get it right, you know,

2287
01:50:31,560 --> 01:50:34,639
Speaker 2: especially mostly the studio. But you have this incredible studio

2288
01:50:34,760 --> 01:50:38,200
Speaker 2: team at TNT and the and ESPN has never been

2289
01:50:38,200 --> 01:50:39,160
Speaker 2: able to figure it out.

2290
01:50:39,439 --> 01:50:42,879
Speaker 4: And that group of three I think is as good.

2291
01:50:42,720 --> 01:50:47,080
Speaker 2: As anything that they do there, as far as as whatever,

2292
01:50:47,240 --> 01:50:48,960
Speaker 2: or as good as anything as they did do there.

2293
01:50:49,479 --> 01:50:53,400
Speaker 2: And now you know, again respectfully, like listen, I know

2294
01:50:53,479 --> 01:50:56,080
Speaker 2: I've had my personal things with JJ Reddick. I actually

2295
01:50:56,120 --> 01:50:59,200
Speaker 2: think he's a very like, smart, opinionated guy. I don't

2296
01:50:59,200 --> 01:51:00,960
Speaker 2: always agree with his pay, but guess what, I don't

2297
01:51:01,000 --> 01:51:02,040
Speaker 2: agree with anyone's opinions.

2298
01:51:02,080 --> 01:51:02,200
Speaker 5: All.

2299
01:51:03,400 --> 01:51:05,960
Speaker 3: He's great on his podcast and he deserves what he's got.

2300
01:51:06,240 --> 01:51:09,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I I don't know, lead voice NBA Finals.

2301
01:51:09,720 --> 01:51:12,880
Speaker 2: And then to your point about Doris Burke, like it's great,

2302
01:51:13,240 --> 01:51:16,360
Speaker 2: you know, I get it. She's overcome a lot of

2303
01:51:16,439 --> 01:51:17,800
Speaker 2: barriers that I'm sure a lot of people in the

2304
01:51:17,840 --> 01:51:20,479
Speaker 2: business have never had to, and certainly many that we

2305
01:51:20,520 --> 01:51:23,720
Speaker 2: probably don't even know about. I don't view her as

2306
01:51:23,920 --> 01:51:27,040
Speaker 2: the lead voice of the biggest games in the NBA.

2307
01:51:27,160 --> 01:51:31,040
Speaker 2: That's my opinion. Nobody really cares at ESPN whatever. Really quickly, Jason,

2308
01:51:31,439 --> 01:51:35,000
Speaker 2: I put together a list of a couple people, because

2309
01:51:35,040 --> 01:51:39,240
Speaker 2: I would have deemed Jeff Fan Gundy essentially unfireable, like

2310
01:51:39,400 --> 01:51:41,960
Speaker 2: like you know, you can retire, you can leave for

2311
01:51:42,000 --> 01:51:44,240
Speaker 2: another network, the way that Joe Buck and Troy Aikman

2312
01:51:44,280 --> 01:51:47,400
Speaker 2: did a few years ago. But in terms of just

2313
01:51:48,040 --> 01:51:50,280
Speaker 2: giving him a pink slip, I would have put Jeffvan

2314
01:51:50,360 --> 01:51:52,640
Speaker 2: Gundy in the top five for sure. I want to

2315
01:51:52,680 --> 01:51:55,240
Speaker 2: know if you agree with me on these as far

2316
01:51:55,400 --> 01:51:57,800
Speaker 2: as the names, and by the way, jump in and

2317
01:51:57,880 --> 01:51:59,840
Speaker 2: throw in any that you think of as well. But

2318
01:52:00,040 --> 01:52:05,240
Speaker 2: I'm talking unfireable as in like you can't imagine them

2319
01:52:05,479 --> 01:52:09,000
Speaker 2: just not being needed at their respective company. Number One,

2320
01:52:09,080 --> 01:52:12,080
Speaker 2: to me, he's been there forever. I can't ever imagine

2321
01:52:12,080 --> 01:52:16,560
Speaker 2: getting fired. Jim Nance CBS does NFL, does golf. He

2322
01:52:16,640 --> 01:52:20,200
Speaker 2: actually retired from the NCAA tournament, Like he's got to

2323
01:52:20,240 --> 01:52:21,040
Speaker 2: retire at CBS.

2324
01:52:21,880 --> 01:52:23,840
Speaker 4: There's no scenario where he's not there.

2325
01:52:23,920 --> 01:52:26,120
Speaker 3: Well, we've already seen it, right, that was his last

2326
01:52:26,280 --> 01:52:28,559
Speaker 3: final four this year. That was the last one he's

2327
01:52:28,560 --> 01:52:30,360
Speaker 3: going to do. He's turning it over to Iron Eagle.

2328
01:52:30,800 --> 01:52:32,200
Speaker 3: And in a lot of ways, I think I an

2329
01:52:32,240 --> 01:52:35,599
Speaker 3: Eagle might be the best overall announcer they have when

2330
01:52:35,640 --> 01:52:38,320
Speaker 3: it comes to the some of the just his energy

2331
01:52:38,439 --> 01:52:41,040
Speaker 3: is different. Nance is just an absolute classic. I have

2332
01:52:41,240 --> 01:52:43,720
Speaker 3: nothing bad to say about Jim. I absolutely love the guy.

2333
01:52:45,120 --> 01:52:47,080
Speaker 3: I love his attitude. I love the way that he has.

2334
01:52:47,439 --> 01:52:48,840
Speaker 3: He actually moved to Nashville.

2335
01:52:50,760 --> 01:52:52,599
Speaker 4: What's it called. I thought he lives on Pebble Beach.

2336
01:52:52,640 --> 01:52:53,519
Speaker 4: I thought he lives on the court.

2337
01:52:53,600 --> 01:52:55,400
Speaker 3: Have you moved again? But he was here last year

2338
01:52:55,400 --> 01:52:58,800
Speaker 3: at least, and just the way there were there were

2339
01:52:58,880 --> 01:53:01,000
Speaker 3: some encounters of people on who had with him and

2340
01:53:01,080 --> 01:53:04,160
Speaker 3: his family, okay, and he was just he's a genuine article,

2341
01:53:04,479 --> 01:53:07,320
Speaker 3: just a really good guy. I think there might be

2342
01:53:07,400 --> 01:53:10,679
Speaker 3: a separator that you need to make, okay, between play

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01:53:11,000 --> 01:53:13,240
Speaker 3: play and Color. I think it's just I think it's

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01:53:13,280 --> 01:53:17,040
Speaker 3: a different environment there. But I certainly wouldn't disagree with Nance.

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01:53:17,120 --> 01:53:19,439
Speaker 3: Nance had to decide to move on. It's not like

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01:53:19,479 --> 01:53:20,719
Speaker 3: they were going to move on from.

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01:53:20,600 --> 01:53:23,200
Speaker 2: Him, Okay, So I also had Mike Breen on the list,

2348
01:53:23,280 --> 01:53:25,439
Speaker 2: So we'll go ahead and just agree with that, dude. So,

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01:53:25,960 --> 01:53:30,040
Speaker 2: so the color commentators here are the I have three

2350
01:53:30,360 --> 01:53:32,080
Speaker 2: that I think are essentially like you.

2351
01:53:32,280 --> 01:53:35,679
Speaker 4: Just you can't kirkurb Street. I'm sorry.

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01:53:35,680 --> 01:53:38,439
Speaker 2: If Kirkurbstreet wants to work, I don't need anybody else

2353
01:53:38,520 --> 01:53:40,519
Speaker 2: calling ESPN's biggest college football games.

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01:53:40,800 --> 01:53:41,360
Speaker 4: Do you agree with that?

2355
01:53:42,640 --> 01:53:44,640
Speaker 3: I do, although I would put him number two in

2356
01:53:44,720 --> 01:53:45,439
Speaker 3: college football?

2357
01:53:46,080 --> 01:53:47,040
Speaker 4: Oh, who's number one?

2358
01:53:47,439 --> 01:53:51,040
Speaker 3: Joel Clatt? I know we work for Fox. I just

2359
01:53:51,080 --> 01:53:54,920
Speaker 3: think Joel Klatt is Joe. There's something about herb Street

2360
01:53:54,960 --> 01:53:57,320
Speaker 3: from time to time where he can lull you to

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01:53:57,400 --> 01:53:58,880
Speaker 3: sleep just a little bit. It's just kind of his

2362
01:53:59,000 --> 01:54:01,519
Speaker 3: cadence and his way. It's not like this is not

2363
01:54:01,680 --> 01:54:04,080
Speaker 3: like some huge critique. It's just kind of the way

2364
01:54:04,200 --> 01:54:08,360
Speaker 3: he talks. For me, something about Clatt makes me interested

2365
01:54:08,439 --> 01:54:12,719
Speaker 3: in every single play he calls. It just feels huge.

2366
01:54:13,000 --> 01:54:16,479
Speaker 3: And Clatt's just wicked, smart and a great dude. And

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01:54:16,720 --> 01:54:17,880
Speaker 3: so I'm gonna give him the nod.

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01:54:18,000 --> 01:54:19,600
Speaker 2: Okay, so I will say this really quick and then

2369
01:54:19,640 --> 01:54:21,559
Speaker 2: I'll give you two more names than we gotta get

2370
01:54:21,600 --> 01:54:24,160
Speaker 2: back to to Segre here. But okay, So I will

2371
01:54:24,200 --> 01:54:26,679
Speaker 2: say this, the bosses at Fox don't care about my opinion.

2372
01:54:26,680 --> 01:54:29,479
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say it anyway, the combination of Gus Klatt

2373
01:54:29,640 --> 01:54:32,160
Speaker 2: and Jenny Jenny Taft is as good as any booth

2374
01:54:32,360 --> 01:54:36,240
Speaker 2: in any sport period. So you you know, listen, spend

2375
01:54:36,240 --> 01:54:38,320
Speaker 2: your money. You don't get rid of that group. They

2376
01:54:38,360 --> 01:54:42,600
Speaker 2: are incredible. The other analysts that I have one is

2377
01:54:42,720 --> 01:54:45,360
Speaker 2: Chris collins Worth, like he just feels like Sunday Night

2378
01:54:45,400 --> 01:54:48,000
Speaker 2: football to me at that at this point. And the

2379
01:54:48,080 --> 01:54:50,880
Speaker 2: other one I think it's pretty obvious, like no, no, no,

2380
01:54:50,960 --> 01:54:52,840
Speaker 2: no no. The one I was gonna say is Dick

2381
01:54:52,880 --> 01:54:56,080
Speaker 2: fight Tel. Like you fired Dick fight Tel. You know

2382
01:54:56,400 --> 01:54:58,720
Speaker 2: there's gonna be hell to pay because he is an

2383
01:54:58,920 --> 01:55:01,600
Speaker 2: icon of the sport. He's obviously very much towards the

2384
01:55:01,640 --> 01:55:03,800
Speaker 2: tail end of his career and hopefully he gets to

2385
01:55:03,880 --> 01:55:06,000
Speaker 2: go out on his own terms. But the Jeff Van

2386
01:55:06,080 --> 01:55:10,440
Speaker 2: Gunny thing absolutely shocking yesterday as he is off the

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01:55:10,640 --> 01:55:13,480
Speaker 2: NBA on the ESPN Fox Sports radio erin tors Jason

2388
01:55:13,480 --> 01:55:16,240
Speaker 2: Martin coming back, the sager has his extended up that

2389
01:55:16,320 --> 01:55:18,040
Speaker 2: he's got all sorts of good stuff for you.

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01:55:18,600 --> 01:55:20,600
Speaker 4: That's next. Di Seger's coming up.

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Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 4: Welcome back everybody.

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Speaker 2: let's toss it over the news desk, extend it update, disager,

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Speaker 2: take it away, my friend.

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01:55:45,440 --> 01:55:48,720
Speaker 10: Well, there's only one ballgame still going. It's it's at

2402
01:55:48,760 --> 01:55:50,840
Speaker 10: Wrigley Field. Yeah, they're still playing because there was a

2403
01:55:50,920 --> 01:55:53,000
Speaker 10: rain delay of over two and a half hours at

2404
01:55:53,040 --> 01:55:55,840
Speaker 10: the start. So right now in the ninth it is

2405
01:55:56,000 --> 01:55:59,800
Speaker 10: Cleveland leading at the Cubs six nothing. The other Lake

2406
01:56:00,280 --> 01:56:03,680
Speaker 10: just ended at Anaheim. Arizona is fifty and thirty four

2407
01:56:03,800 --> 01:56:06,839
Speaker 10: this season, first place in the NLS, not the Padres,

2408
01:56:06,960 --> 01:56:10,080
Speaker 10: not the Dodgers. Arizona beat the Angels three to one.

2409
01:56:10,200 --> 01:56:13,480
Speaker 10: That means the Diamondbacks are now three games up on

2410
01:56:13,600 --> 01:56:16,120
Speaker 10: the Dodgers who lost at Kansas City, and three up

2411
01:56:16,200 --> 01:56:18,760
Speaker 10: on the Giants who lost at the Mets. Well, we

2412
01:56:18,840 --> 01:56:22,120
Speaker 10: talked earlier in the show about the woeful ratings for

2413
01:56:22,520 --> 01:56:26,560
Speaker 10: the match golf exhibition in Vegas earlier this week Thursday

2414
01:56:26,640 --> 01:56:30,160
Speaker 10: night on cable and this is three channels combined, it

2415
01:56:30,240 --> 01:56:32,840
Speaker 10: got under eight hundred thousand viewers to watch the two

2416
01:56:32,960 --> 01:56:36,240
Speaker 10: Chiefs beat the two Golden State Warriors in golf. That's

2417
01:56:36,280 --> 01:56:39,080
Speaker 10: nothing like the bad ratings last weekend for the season

2418
01:56:39,160 --> 01:56:42,120
Speaker 10: premiere of Big Three Basketball. And this wasn't on True TV,

2419
01:56:42,320 --> 01:56:46,120
Speaker 10: this was CBS. Okay, under five hundred thousand viewers for

2420
01:56:46,320 --> 01:56:47,200
Speaker 10: that last Sunday.

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01:56:47,320 --> 01:56:50,280
Speaker 2: I saw ice Cube complaining like, oh yeah, it's just

2422
01:56:50,360 --> 01:56:52,440
Speaker 2: you know, we're not part of the good old boys club.

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01:56:52,480 --> 01:56:54,840
Speaker 4: It's like, no, you have a boring product. Nobody cares

2424
01:56:54,840 --> 01:56:55,160
Speaker 4: about it.

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01:56:55,160 --> 01:56:58,000
Speaker 3: There's just no point. Again, this is just like spring football.

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01:56:58,080 --> 01:57:00,640
Speaker 3: It's like I appreciate it, I'm not rooty against it,

2427
01:57:01,000 --> 01:57:03,280
Speaker 3: but there's just not a reason to care.

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01:57:03,680 --> 01:57:06,200
Speaker 10: Well, how about this. You mentioned spring football. The Big

2429
01:57:06,360 --> 01:57:10,480
Speaker 10: Three premiere got about half the audience of the USFL

2430
01:57:10,520 --> 01:57:13,920
Speaker 10: playoffs last weekend. Wow, so let's put that in perspective.

2431
01:57:14,320 --> 01:57:15,440
Speaker 4: I'm just googling right now.

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01:57:15,480 --> 01:57:18,360
Speaker 2: Ice Cube was on with Joe Rogan apparently this week,

2433
01:57:18,400 --> 01:57:21,120
Speaker 2: and I'm sure he did talk about this. I know

2434
01:57:21,160 --> 01:57:23,080
Speaker 2: there was probably many other things that they talked about,

2435
01:57:23,120 --> 01:57:25,280
Speaker 2: but he did mention this, and he's not very happy

2436
01:57:25,280 --> 01:57:26,360
Speaker 2: about it, but continue to.

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01:57:26,320 --> 01:57:30,080
Speaker 10: Sing USFL season did end tonight with the defending champion

2438
01:57:30,160 --> 01:57:34,040
Speaker 10: Birmingham Stallions taking the title once again ten and two

2439
01:57:34,120 --> 01:57:36,800
Speaker 10: record they finished with. The final was at Hall of

2440
01:57:36,840 --> 01:57:40,120
Speaker 10: Fame Stadium in Kanton, Ohio, Birmingham twenty eight to twelve

2441
01:57:40,200 --> 01:57:42,880
Speaker 10: over the Pittsburgh Mallers, who made the playoffs with a

2442
01:57:43,000 --> 01:57:46,360
Speaker 10: four and six record. The winning quarterback, Alex McGoo had

2443
01:57:46,400 --> 01:57:49,480
Speaker 10: four touchdown passes. He's from Florida International. He was a

2444
01:57:49,640 --> 01:57:53,920
Speaker 10: Seahawks seventh round pick five years ago. Speaking of wolful

2445
01:57:54,000 --> 01:57:58,000
Speaker 10: TV ratings, Wednesday night was the NHL Draft on ESPN

2446
01:57:58,480 --> 01:58:01,960
Speaker 10: that got under seven hundred that viewers, and yet that

2447
01:58:02,200 --> 01:58:06,000
Speaker 10: was apparently the largest audience the NHL draft has had

2448
01:58:06,560 --> 01:58:07,880
Speaker 10: ever in this country.

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01:58:08,080 --> 01:58:09,760
Speaker 3: That's what it said. Sounds like a big number when

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01:58:09,760 --> 01:58:11,280
Speaker 3: I heard seven hundred might really.

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01:58:11,160 --> 01:58:14,160
Speaker 10: Put it in perspective, though, you know, Anyboddy, the NHL

2452
01:58:14,280 --> 01:58:17,240
Speaker 10: Draft no exactly well from Yukon first ever first round pick.

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01:58:17,240 --> 01:58:19,000
Speaker 4: Oh sorry, sorry, too much you can't talk about.

2454
01:58:19,360 --> 01:58:22,200
Speaker 10: But like the MLB Draft happens all the time and

2455
01:58:22,320 --> 01:58:24,920
Speaker 10: we never know who that is. And that got a

2456
01:58:25,040 --> 01:58:29,240
Speaker 10: larger number last summer than the NHL Draft this past year.

2457
01:58:29,800 --> 01:58:32,160
Speaker 10: And that was not on an ESPN to my knowledge.

2458
01:58:32,280 --> 01:58:34,440
Speaker 10: You know, that might have been on MLB network.

2459
01:58:34,120 --> 01:58:34,640
Speaker 3: For all I know.

2460
01:58:35,320 --> 01:58:38,120
Speaker 10: But the NHL draft, and this is all you need

2461
01:58:38,200 --> 01:58:41,720
Speaker 10: to know about the NHL on ESPN. The draft Wednesday

2462
01:58:42,000 --> 01:58:45,200
Speaker 10: got a larger TV audience than most of the NHL games.

2463
01:58:45,480 --> 01:58:49,600
Speaker 10: Believe that NHL carried this past season. So NBA Draft

2464
01:58:49,640 --> 01:58:53,880
Speaker 10: a week before about five million viewers, NHL Draft about

2465
01:58:53,920 --> 01:58:59,240
Speaker 10: six hundred and eighty thousand viewers, heavy heavy NBA news items.

2466
01:59:00,400 --> 01:59:02,960
Speaker 10: It seems like fifty a night last night and tonight

2467
01:59:03,400 --> 01:59:06,640
Speaker 10: two that we haven't mentioned. Yes, Sacramento has the ESPN

2468
01:59:06,760 --> 01:59:09,640
Speaker 10: report of giving a new five year deal to Demantis Sabonis.

2469
01:59:10,040 --> 01:59:15,080
Speaker 10: Sacramento has signed EuroLeague MVP Sasha vesen Kov three years

2470
01:59:15,280 --> 01:59:18,880
Speaker 10: twenty million dollars. He played in Greece, and Oklahoma City

2471
01:59:19,040 --> 01:59:23,000
Speaker 10: signed guard Vasili Michic from Europe three years about twenty

2472
01:59:23,080 --> 01:59:26,600
Speaker 10: four million dollars. He won three Turkish league titles. NBA

2473
01:59:26,680 --> 01:59:30,160
Speaker 10: free agency period started last night. The Clippers are trading

2474
01:59:30,240 --> 01:59:33,960
Speaker 10: for kJ Martin from Houston. He is from Los Angeles.

2475
01:59:34,040 --> 01:59:36,800
Speaker 10: He played at Sierra Canyon with Scottie Pippen's kid and

2476
01:59:36,880 --> 01:59:39,120
Speaker 10: with Lebron James kids. So he goes to the Clippers,

2477
01:59:39,160 --> 01:59:42,040
Speaker 10: and the Clippers resigned Russell Westbrook. But it's not for

2478
01:59:42,160 --> 01:59:44,480
Speaker 10: much money and it's only a one year deal plus

2479
01:59:44,560 --> 01:59:48,400
Speaker 10: a player option. The Lakers resigning D'Angelo Russell is just

2480
01:59:48,560 --> 01:59:51,720
Speaker 10: one year plus a player option. But the Lakers resigning

2481
01:59:51,760 --> 01:59:56,520
Speaker 10: Austin Reeves that's four years fifty six million. Cleveland gets

2482
01:59:56,600 --> 02:00:00,320
Speaker 10: Max Struce from the Miami Heat four years sixty three million.

2483
02:00:00,840 --> 02:00:04,480
Speaker 10: Houston will sign Dylan Brooks from Memphis four years eighty

2484
02:00:04,800 --> 02:00:09,880
Speaker 10: million dollars. Milwaukee re signed center Brook Lopez two years

2485
02:00:10,160 --> 02:00:15,400
Speaker 10: forty eight million dollars max extension off the rookie contract

2486
02:00:15,560 --> 02:00:18,760
Speaker 10: for guard Lamello Ball from the Hornets five years. And

2487
02:00:18,880 --> 02:00:22,520
Speaker 10: we'll see where Damian Lilly because the Trailblazers guard requested

2488
02:00:22,600 --> 02:00:25,960
Speaker 10: a trade. Of course, recently, the Blazers just drafted guard

2489
02:00:26,040 --> 02:00:30,280
Speaker 10: Scoot Henderson. Yesterday, Portland agreed to re sign Jeremy Grant

2490
02:00:30,400 --> 02:00:32,280
Speaker 10: five years, one hundred and sixty mil.

2491
02:00:33,080 --> 02:00:34,360
Speaker 4: Thank you very much, Steve Sager.

2492
02:00:34,440 --> 02:00:38,200
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday arators Jason Martin broadcasting

2493
02:00:38,360 --> 02:00:41,040
Speaker 2: live from the tireck dot com studios. One note from

2494
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Speaker 2: last segment talked about Jeff Fangundy being off of the broadcast.

2495
02:00:45,640 --> 02:00:50,600
Speaker 2: He was the most tenured color commentator in NBA Playoffs history.

2496
02:00:50,760 --> 02:00:55,320
Speaker 2: Seventeen Finals called Jeff Fangundy's gone more. Fox Sports Radio

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02:00:55,360 --> 02:00:57,720
Speaker 2: coming up Aertors, Jays Smart taking you two am Easter Time.

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Speaker 2: Welcome man, everybody. Hour four for Torres and Martin. We

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Speaker 2: Bernie Frado joins us about twenty minutes from now, We're

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Speaker 2: gonna have a lot to discuss with Bernie.

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Speaker 4: Jason really quick.

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02:01:31,080 --> 02:01:32,840
Speaker 2: I want to put a bow on something from last hour,

2509
02:01:32,960 --> 02:01:35,560
Speaker 2: so we talked about Jeff Vangunny being let go. I

2510
02:01:35,680 --> 02:01:39,640
Speaker 2: just mentioned before the break seventeen NBA Finals called was

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Speaker 2: the most ever for any NBA analyst, which is kind

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02:01:42,680 --> 02:01:46,360
Speaker 2: of incredible. And I mentioned offhand a couple of analysts

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Speaker 2: that I felt like were irreplaceable, unfireable, if you will,

2514
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Speaker 2: you know, Chris Collinsworth was one, kirkurb Street, whatever you mentioned,

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Speaker 2: Joe Klapp just very quickly. Is there anybody else I

2516
02:01:57,480 --> 02:01:59,640
Speaker 2: know you probably put together a list as well, anybody

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02:01:59,680 --> 02:02:02,480
Speaker 2: else that I miss that you feel adamant like, I

2518
02:02:02,600 --> 02:02:06,280
Speaker 2: can't imagine watching this sporting event without this person calling it.

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02:02:07,120 --> 02:02:09,120
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know if I would phrase it that way,

2520
02:02:09,320 --> 02:02:11,560
Speaker 3: just because there's some that are a little bit newer

2521
02:02:12,520 --> 02:02:15,440
Speaker 3: that it's not like they've become synonymous with that event,

2522
02:02:15,600 --> 02:02:18,800
Speaker 3: but they certainly feel unfirable at this point. Romo's got

2523
02:02:18,920 --> 02:02:21,440
Speaker 3: to be one of them. The money that he got,

2524
02:02:21,680 --> 02:02:24,320
Speaker 3: even though I don't know that he is seen quite

2525
02:02:24,360 --> 02:02:27,800
Speaker 3: as highly now as he was that first couple of years.

2526
02:02:28,480 --> 02:02:30,800
Speaker 3: I think right now maybe some people have soured on

2527
02:02:30,880 --> 02:02:32,880
Speaker 3: him a little bit. The other one's a guy that

2528
02:02:33,040 --> 02:02:37,240
Speaker 3: another Fox guy that just called a super Bowl that

2529
02:02:37,800 --> 02:02:39,520
Speaker 3: might be the best in the business when it comes

2530
02:02:39,520 --> 02:02:41,920
Speaker 3: to the NFL right now, and that's Greg Olsen. Now,

2531
02:02:42,200 --> 02:02:45,920
Speaker 3: Olsen's not unfirable, but Olsen to me is a guy

2532
02:02:46,000 --> 02:02:48,200
Speaker 3: that's going to have a job for a long long

2533
02:02:48,320 --> 02:02:51,040
Speaker 3: time as long as he wants one, and he's about

2534
02:02:51,080 --> 02:02:52,880
Speaker 3: as good as it gets. I look at it kind

2535
02:02:52,920 --> 02:02:55,000
Speaker 3: of it's hard for me to separate guys that I

2536
02:02:55,120 --> 02:02:58,040
Speaker 3: think are just world class at what they do from

2537
02:02:58,160 --> 02:03:01,480
Speaker 3: guys that you just could never think that they would

2538
02:03:01,520 --> 02:03:05,480
Speaker 3: actually get replaced another one. I would say that, and

2539
02:03:05,600 --> 02:03:08,320
Speaker 3: again a lot of this, like no one is unfirable

2540
02:03:08,360 --> 02:03:10,480
Speaker 3: if they do the wrong thing, So we're not really

2541
02:03:10,600 --> 02:03:13,360
Speaker 3: we're not looking at it from that perspective. The most

2542
02:03:13,560 --> 02:03:17,080
Speaker 3: versatile guy in the game might be Mike Turrico.

2543
02:03:17,360 --> 02:03:18,200
Speaker 4: Shit, he's great.

2544
02:03:18,320 --> 02:03:21,200
Speaker 3: Yes, he's great at everything. He always has been.

2545
02:03:21,280 --> 02:03:23,360
Speaker 2: I used to have a running joke like I think

2546
02:03:23,520 --> 02:03:25,960
Speaker 2: there was times when he worked at the Four Letters

2547
02:03:26,320 --> 02:03:28,440
Speaker 2: that he worked every single day, like he would just

2548
02:03:28,520 --> 02:03:34,600
Speaker 2: be like NFL, NBA, college basketball, tennis, golf, Little League

2549
02:03:34,600 --> 02:03:35,080
Speaker 2: World Series.

2550
02:03:35,160 --> 02:03:36,800
Speaker 4: Like this guy was on everything.

2551
02:03:37,040 --> 02:03:39,200
Speaker 2: I mean I remember vividly, like he was the lead

2552
02:03:39,320 --> 02:03:41,520
Speaker 2: NBA voice, and then it'd just be a Tuesday night

2553
02:03:41,640 --> 02:03:43,680
Speaker 2: and he'd pop up on a random Big Ten game.

2554
02:03:43,840 --> 02:03:45,160
Speaker 3: So I'm with you.

2555
02:03:45,320 --> 02:03:47,760
Speaker 2: I think that guy is as talented and versatile as

2556
02:03:47,760 --> 02:03:51,200
Speaker 2: anybody in our business. And again this stems from obviously

2557
02:03:51,320 --> 02:03:53,520
Speaker 2: some unfortunate news, and I think Jason and I were

2558
02:03:53,560 --> 02:03:58,240
Speaker 2: both shocked by Jeff Van Gundy being let go after

2559
02:03:58,440 --> 02:03:59,640
Speaker 2: seventeen seasons.

2560
02:03:59,760 --> 02:04:03,080
Speaker 4: Call the NBA Finals with ESPN.

2561
02:04:03,440 --> 02:04:05,640
Speaker 2: Jason, I do want to switch gears and we're going

2562
02:04:05,680 --> 02:04:07,440
Speaker 2: to take a hard pivot here because there is a

2563
02:04:07,480 --> 02:04:09,400
Speaker 2: little bit of a serious topic that I do want

2564
02:04:09,400 --> 02:04:11,520
Speaker 2: to get to here before we welcome in Bernie Fratto

2565
02:04:11,520 --> 02:04:15,360
Speaker 2: about fifteen minutes from now. And that was a new

2566
02:04:15,480 --> 02:04:19,080
Speaker 2: twist in what is becoming kind of a recurring theme,

2567
02:04:20,440 --> 02:04:24,960
Speaker 2: and the theme is just one piece of bad news

2568
02:04:25,240 --> 02:04:28,960
Speaker 2: after another this offseason for the now two time defending

2569
02:04:29,040 --> 02:04:33,040
Speaker 2: champion Georgia Bulldogs in college football. For people who missed it,

2570
02:04:33,320 --> 02:04:35,600
Speaker 2: there was a report out this week from the Atlanta

2571
02:04:35,680 --> 02:04:40,280
Speaker 2: Journal Constitution in Atlanta, and I know people in Georgia

2572
02:04:40,360 --> 02:04:43,280
Speaker 2: think that the AJAC is out to get Georgia football,

2573
02:04:43,960 --> 02:04:47,400
Speaker 2: but I just bring it up because it was another

2574
02:04:47,680 --> 02:04:51,360
Speaker 2: article that painted a really bad picture of what happens

2575
02:04:51,400 --> 02:04:55,240
Speaker 2: behind the scenes with Georgia. Obviously, all of this is

2576
02:04:55,760 --> 02:04:58,879
Speaker 2: under the cloak of everything that has happened this offseason,

2577
02:04:58,920 --> 02:05:02,919
Speaker 2: which obviously included a fatal accident on campus. Back in January,

2578
02:05:03,400 --> 02:05:06,600
Speaker 2: a staffer named Chandler Lacroix and a player named Devin

2579
02:05:06,640 --> 02:05:09,240
Speaker 2: Willock were killed in a car crash. We of course,

2580
02:05:09,320 --> 02:05:11,920
Speaker 2: later found out that they were racing the potential number

2581
02:05:11,960 --> 02:05:14,280
Speaker 2: one pick in the draft, Jalen Carter, who then had

2582
02:05:14,360 --> 02:05:19,720
Speaker 2: to return from Indianapolis at the NFL Combine to Athens,

2583
02:05:19,800 --> 02:05:22,880
Speaker 2: Georgia to turn himself into police. One of their best

2584
02:05:22,920 --> 02:05:27,000
Speaker 2: defensive players, Jaymon Dumas Johnson, also got arrested this offseason.

2585
02:05:27,480 --> 02:05:32,160
Speaker 2: Marcus another wide receiver, got arrested this offseason, and we

2586
02:05:32,280 --> 02:05:35,040
Speaker 2: found out that how about this Jason. This actually came

2587
02:05:35,080 --> 02:05:38,400
Speaker 2: out of a few weeks ago. But since Kirby Smart

2588
02:05:38,480 --> 02:05:42,280
Speaker 2: took over in twenty fifteen, Georgia football players have accounted

2589
02:05:42,400 --> 02:05:48,760
Speaker 2: for three hundred plus driving related incidents, sixty of them

2590
02:05:48,760 --> 02:05:52,120
Speaker 2: which would be considered serious and that would be reckless

2591
02:05:52,160 --> 02:05:54,720
Speaker 2: driving things of that nature. Obviously a lot of what

2592
02:05:54,880 --> 02:05:57,840
Speaker 2: is happening behind the wheel is putting other people in danger, etc.

2593
02:05:58,640 --> 02:06:02,480
Speaker 2: But then the latest at General Constitution report also said

2594
02:06:03,200 --> 02:06:06,960
Speaker 2: that Kirby Smart has There have been eleven instances over

2595
02:06:06,960 --> 02:06:10,280
Speaker 2: the past couple of years where players were either accused

2596
02:06:10,400 --> 02:06:14,680
Speaker 2: of domestic assault or domestic violence and were kept on

2597
02:06:14,840 --> 02:06:17,560
Speaker 2: the team. Now, to be fair, a couple things. We

2598
02:06:17,720 --> 02:06:20,320
Speaker 2: know how the legal system works, and it's until proven guilty.

2599
02:06:20,440 --> 02:06:22,760
Speaker 2: We get all that, and at least in the case

2600
02:06:22,800 --> 02:06:25,400
Speaker 2: of one player mentioned in the article, there were no

2601
02:06:25,600 --> 02:06:28,000
Speaker 2: charges filed and the player is now on the team

2602
02:06:28,040 --> 02:06:28,800
Speaker 2: and all of that.

2603
02:06:29,080 --> 02:06:30,360
Speaker 4: So I want to be fair.

2604
02:06:30,640 --> 02:06:33,160
Speaker 2: Not every player has been convicted of a crime, not

2605
02:06:33,240 --> 02:06:35,680
Speaker 2: every player has even been charged of a crime, but

2606
02:06:35,960 --> 02:06:39,600
Speaker 2: eleven players have been kept on, you know, while with

2607
02:06:40,360 --> 02:06:45,040
Speaker 2: despite pending domestic violence or domestic assault situations, and then

2608
02:06:45,120 --> 02:06:48,480
Speaker 2: three hundred plus driving incidents, and it just feels like

2609
02:06:48,560 --> 02:06:49,400
Speaker 2: this is a program.

2610
02:06:49,600 --> 02:06:50,120
Speaker 3: I get it.

2611
02:06:50,600 --> 02:06:53,080
Speaker 2: I get that college kids make dumb mistakes, but this

2612
02:06:53,200 --> 02:06:56,320
Speaker 2: feels extreme. And why I bring it up, Jason, is

2613
02:06:57,360 --> 02:07:01,080
Speaker 2: it doesn't feel like Georgia is getting the criticism that

2614
02:07:01,640 --> 02:07:05,240
Speaker 2: it deems like like, I just feel like there are

2615
02:07:05,280 --> 02:07:07,720
Speaker 2: ten other programs where if this was Dabo Sweety's program,

2616
02:07:07,880 --> 02:07:10,680
Speaker 2: it's oh, Dabbos gotta get his team under control, Nick

2617
02:07:10,760 --> 02:07:13,840
Speaker 2: Sabe and Jimbo Fisher whatever. And it feels to me

2618
02:07:14,040 --> 02:07:17,080
Speaker 2: like Kirby Smart is largely getting a pass for this. Jason,

2619
02:07:17,400 --> 02:07:18,840
Speaker 2: I know it took a long time to set up.

2620
02:07:18,920 --> 02:07:20,720
Speaker 2: Just wanted to give everybody the facts and be fair

2621
02:07:20,760 --> 02:07:22,840
Speaker 2: and give both sides of the story. But curious for

2622
02:07:22,920 --> 02:07:23,800
Speaker 2: your take, Jason.

2623
02:07:27,080 --> 02:07:32,400
Speaker 3: It's troubling, and I mean the knee jerk reaction to

2624
02:07:32,520 --> 02:07:34,720
Speaker 3: it is they're a football factory and that's what they

2625
02:07:34,800 --> 02:07:37,760
Speaker 3: care about, and so they're doing whatever they can. If

2626
02:07:37,840 --> 02:07:39,520
Speaker 3: you have a checker pass, we're gonna fly.

2627
02:07:39,920 --> 02:07:41,920
Speaker 2: Why wouldn't the outside because I've heard that a lot. Well,

2628
02:07:41,920 --> 02:07:44,200
Speaker 2: they're good and this is what happens with great programs,

2629
02:07:44,400 --> 02:07:46,480
Speaker 2: But I don't understand why the outside Like I just

2630
02:07:46,600 --> 02:07:50,960
Speaker 2: feel like if I told you Jimbo Fisher.

2631
02:07:50,800 --> 02:07:54,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that I was getting there, Okay. Kirby Smart

2632
02:07:54,480 --> 02:08:00,840
Speaker 3: doesn't have the recognition when it comes to being polarizing

2633
02:08:02,960 --> 02:08:07,040
Speaker 3: Nick Saban or we're coming after Nick Saban, Dabo Swiney, Oh,

2634
02:08:07,240 --> 02:08:10,160
Speaker 3: We're definitely coming after him, especially when he talks about Christianity.

2635
02:08:10,840 --> 02:08:14,280
Speaker 3: Jimbo Fisher, we, you and me have gone after him

2636
02:08:15,000 --> 02:08:17,400
Speaker 3: because he's kind of put himself into that position with

2637
02:08:17,480 --> 02:08:19,680
Speaker 3: what he did at A and M with the guys

2638
02:08:19,720 --> 02:08:21,240
Speaker 3: that he brought in, with the comments that he made

2639
02:08:21,280 --> 02:08:23,400
Speaker 3: about Saban last year, and then what happened to the

2640
02:08:23,440 --> 02:08:25,480
Speaker 3: team when he was on the field, and how he

2641
02:08:25,560 --> 02:08:27,880
Speaker 3: exited Florida State and all this kind of stuff. There

2642
02:08:27,960 --> 02:08:31,720
Speaker 3: are guys that are polarizing as coaches, and usually when

2643
02:08:31,880 --> 02:08:36,440
Speaker 3: their programs do stuff, people in the media come after him.

2644
02:08:36,920 --> 02:08:39,960
Speaker 3: Mean the same thing with coach cal at Kentucky, for example,

2645
02:08:40,320 --> 02:08:43,040
Speaker 3: if Duke ever have a problem, you're definitely going to

2646
02:08:43,040 --> 02:08:45,840
Speaker 3: be coming after them in the coach k Era. I

2647
02:08:45,920 --> 02:08:48,560
Speaker 3: think it's more that. Honestly, I just think that Kirby Smart,

2648
02:08:49,520 --> 02:08:51,680
Speaker 3: as great as he is as a college football coach,

2649
02:08:52,800 --> 02:08:54,960
Speaker 3: he doesn't move the needle one way or the other. Like,

2650
02:08:55,080 --> 02:08:57,760
Speaker 3: you don't love or hate Kirby Smart unless you just

2651
02:08:57,880 --> 02:09:01,080
Speaker 3: love or hate Georgia. It's not something thing where Kirby

2652
02:09:01,120 --> 02:09:03,280
Speaker 3: Smart has some track record of a bunch of stuff

2653
02:09:03,320 --> 02:09:05,520
Speaker 3: that he said and or done that you don't like.

2654
02:09:06,240 --> 02:09:09,720
Speaker 3: In parlance, you know, he doesn't have the Urban Meyer effect.

2655
02:09:10,120 --> 02:09:12,480
Speaker 3: There's just not like a whole lot of hate out

2656
02:09:12,520 --> 02:09:14,840
Speaker 3: there for Kirby Smart. So I don't know that he's

2657
02:09:14,880 --> 02:09:18,320
Speaker 3: getting a pass as much as he's just not a

2658
02:09:18,520 --> 02:09:22,880
Speaker 3: target the same way. And so as a result, I

2659
02:09:22,960 --> 02:09:26,920
Speaker 3: think a lot of this has gone more unreported than

2660
02:09:27,000 --> 02:09:29,200
Speaker 3: it should because the facts that you laid out are

2661
02:09:29,280 --> 02:09:31,440
Speaker 3: the facts, and there's even more if you want to

2662
02:09:31,480 --> 02:09:37,120
Speaker 3: go deeper into it. But generally speaking, you were setting

2663
02:09:37,200 --> 02:09:40,240
Speaker 3: it up and you're right. If this were Saban in Alabama,

2664
02:09:41,200 --> 02:09:43,840
Speaker 3: it would have been talked about everywhere. It would still

2665
02:09:43,960 --> 02:09:46,880
Speaker 3: be on the front page of all the major sports websites.

2666
02:09:47,320 --> 02:09:49,600
Speaker 3: You can't even find this story in the NFL are

2667
02:09:49,640 --> 02:09:53,480
Speaker 3: on the college football side of the biggest sports website

2668
02:09:53,480 --> 02:09:56,840
Speaker 3: in the world right now, it's not there. This should

2669
02:09:56,920 --> 02:09:59,840
Speaker 3: be a bigger story than it is, especially considering you have,

2670
02:10:00,160 --> 02:10:03,560
Speaker 3: you know, you're back to back national champion, that this

2671
02:10:03,800 --> 02:10:07,160
Speaker 3: is what's happening here. You've seen incidents. You saw one

2672
02:10:07,240 --> 02:10:10,560
Speaker 3: guy's draft stock plummet not go quite as high as

2673
02:10:10,600 --> 02:10:14,160
Speaker 3: maybe he would have otherwise for things that happened, you know,

2674
02:10:14,520 --> 02:10:17,320
Speaker 3: after the season ended and things like that. So it

2675
02:10:17,400 --> 02:10:19,040
Speaker 3: should be a bigger deal. And I think it's just

2676
02:10:19,120 --> 02:10:22,560
Speaker 3: because Kirby smart. This isn't really the right word to say,

2677
02:10:22,640 --> 02:10:26,000
Speaker 3: but it's like generally he's just kind of milk tos.

2678
02:10:26,400 --> 02:10:28,640
Speaker 3: He's sort of boring compared to a lot of the

2679
02:10:28,760 --> 02:10:33,160
Speaker 3: other coaches, where this would be tabloid fodder. Instead, it

2680
02:10:33,320 --> 02:10:35,720
Speaker 3: just doesn't have the same meat on the bone, and

2681
02:10:35,840 --> 02:10:38,200
Speaker 3: as such, it's just you just kind of shrug your

2682
02:10:38,240 --> 02:10:40,000
Speaker 3: shoulders at it, which I think is unfortunate.

2683
02:10:40,240 --> 02:10:42,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I actually happen to agree with you one

2684
02:10:42,720 --> 02:10:46,400
Speaker 2: thousand percent. And I've heard a lot of reason or

2685
02:10:46,560 --> 02:10:51,600
Speaker 2: logic this week, and oh, you know one, oh, every

2686
02:10:51,720 --> 02:10:54,680
Speaker 2: program that wins at this level get they're under the microscope.

2687
02:10:54,720 --> 02:10:57,440
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, Nick Saban has been under a microscope

2688
02:10:57,520 --> 02:11:01,840
Speaker 2: for twenty five years, and his play when you have

2689
02:11:01,880 --> 02:11:03,680
Speaker 2: eighty five guys on a team, guys are gonna make

2690
02:11:03,720 --> 02:11:07,160
Speaker 2: dumb decisions. But the repetitiveness of this and the severity

2691
02:11:07,240 --> 02:11:09,600
Speaker 2: of this, I've never seen this from Nick Saban's program.

2692
02:11:09,680 --> 02:11:11,320
Speaker 2: I've never seen it from a lot of places. And

2693
02:11:11,480 --> 02:11:14,480
Speaker 2: so I've heard that as, oh, it's because it's they're

2694
02:11:14,520 --> 02:11:16,400
Speaker 2: the best program. People are trying to bring them down.

2695
02:11:16,680 --> 02:11:18,920
Speaker 2: I've also heard the oh, I mean, come on, young guys,

2696
02:11:18,960 --> 02:11:23,520
Speaker 2: make me three hundred plus driving instances obviously eleven domestic

2697
02:11:23,720 --> 02:11:26,920
Speaker 2: incidences as well, which I've just mentioned over there. And

2698
02:11:27,000 --> 02:11:29,440
Speaker 2: so I bring all this up to say, the only

2699
02:11:29,720 --> 02:11:31,840
Speaker 2: reason I could come up with why this hasn't been

2700
02:11:31,880 --> 02:11:35,839
Speaker 2: bigger now two reasons. One these stories are behind a paywall,

2701
02:11:35,960 --> 02:11:37,840
Speaker 2: and I'm not telling anyone how to run their business,

2702
02:11:38,200 --> 02:11:41,320
Speaker 2: fair point, but I'll say this as somebody who's in

2703
02:11:41,480 --> 02:11:44,240
Speaker 2: the media, I had to, as you just said, spend

2704
02:11:44,360 --> 02:11:48,520
Speaker 2: time piecing together everything that was in that report because

2705
02:11:48,560 --> 02:11:53,360
Speaker 2: it wasn't readily available. That's one and then two, I

2706
02:11:53,480 --> 02:11:55,720
Speaker 2: just think you're dead right. I just think it's that

2707
02:11:55,920 --> 02:11:59,080
Speaker 2: I don't think Kirby Smart is like I don't think

2708
02:11:59,120 --> 02:12:01,440
Speaker 2: he's active, like media savvy.

2709
02:12:02,080 --> 02:12:04,120
Speaker 4: I just he's not controversial.

2710
02:12:05,200 --> 02:12:05,360
Speaker 3: You know.

2711
02:12:05,600 --> 02:12:08,480
Speaker 2: Admittedly, the only time that I've been around him is

2712
02:12:08,720 --> 02:12:10,960
Speaker 2: in the lead up to a National title game this

2713
02:12:11,120 --> 02:12:15,400
Speaker 2: year in which he destroyed TCU, His team destroyed TCU,

2714
02:12:15,480 --> 02:12:16,960
Speaker 2: and it was just one of those deals where it

2715
02:12:17,120 --> 02:12:19,840
Speaker 2: was like, okay, like what what is he gonna be,

2716
02:12:20,240 --> 02:12:22,280
Speaker 2: you know, bitter with the media about like he never

2717
02:12:22,360 --> 02:12:25,640
Speaker 2: has those Nick Saban blow ups or you know, back

2718
02:12:25,720 --> 02:12:27,280
Speaker 2: and forth with reporters or whatever.

2719
02:12:27,920 --> 02:12:28,440
Speaker 3: I'm with you.

2720
02:12:28,600 --> 02:12:33,040
Speaker 4: I just think it's because he's not like, yeah, he's

2721
02:12:33,160 --> 02:12:33,879
Speaker 4: just he's.

2722
02:12:33,760 --> 02:12:36,880
Speaker 2: Not like actively trying to like I don't get the

2723
02:12:36,920 --> 02:12:39,879
Speaker 2: sense he's trying to actively try to like build allies

2724
02:12:40,000 --> 02:12:42,840
Speaker 2: in the media. I just don't think like the media

2725
02:12:43,160 --> 02:12:46,080
Speaker 2: their claws come out for him. But I will say,

2726
02:12:46,120 --> 02:12:47,760
Speaker 2: you know, I'm somebody that that through the years, like

2727
02:12:47,880 --> 02:12:49,360
Speaker 2: you can like me, can hate me, whatever, but I

2728
02:12:49,440 --> 02:12:50,400
Speaker 2: treat everybody the same.

2729
02:12:50,920 --> 02:12:53,280
Speaker 4: And I do think that it if this was Jimbo,

2730
02:12:53,320 --> 02:12:54,520
Speaker 4: if this was Dabbo, if this.

2731
02:12:54,680 --> 02:13:00,240
Speaker 2: Was Harbaugh, if this were Lincoln Lincoln Riley, yes, it'd

2732
02:13:00,240 --> 02:13:02,160
Speaker 2: be just it'd be the biggest story in sports. It'd

2733
02:13:02,200 --> 02:13:04,360
Speaker 2: be the biggest story in sports. I'm amazed, Jason. I

2734
02:13:04,400 --> 02:13:05,480
Speaker 2: don't know if you have anything else to add, but

2735
02:13:05,520 --> 02:13:08,280
Speaker 2: I'm just amazed that, like you said, by the way,

2736
02:13:08,880 --> 02:13:11,040
Speaker 2: outside of the main story, like you had to google

2737
02:13:11,120 --> 02:13:14,160
Speaker 2: around to even like on Google, the number one search

2738
02:13:14,280 --> 02:13:16,800
Speaker 2: engine in the world, you had to google around, and

2739
02:13:17,040 --> 02:13:20,240
Speaker 2: most anything Georgia football related was related to recruiting or

2740
02:13:20,280 --> 02:13:21,960
Speaker 2: to this or to that. I'm like, this is a

2741
02:13:22,120 --> 02:13:24,760
Speaker 2: big freaking story, and again nobody seems to.

2742
02:13:24,760 --> 02:13:27,320
Speaker 3: Get Yeah, and there's stuff out there about them having

2743
02:13:27,360 --> 02:13:31,200
Speaker 3: a fixer basically a cleaner that you know, handles a

2744
02:13:31,240 --> 02:13:34,600
Speaker 3: lot of things behind the scenes for them, and I'm surprised,

2745
02:13:34,640 --> 02:13:37,400
Speaker 3: and that you would imagine happens in a lot of programs,

2746
02:13:37,440 --> 02:13:41,080
Speaker 3: but this guy seems to be specifically talented at some

2747
02:13:41,240 --> 02:13:43,360
Speaker 3: of the things that are going on. I don't know

2748
02:13:43,440 --> 02:13:47,120
Speaker 3: that this is a perfect comparison, but it would kind

2749
02:13:47,160 --> 02:13:49,120
Speaker 3: of be like if this kind of thing were happening

2750
02:13:49,160 --> 02:13:53,200
Speaker 3: at Villanova under Jay Wright. Sure, I love Jay Wright, right,

2751
02:13:53,440 --> 02:13:55,720
Speaker 3: there was no reason to dislike Jay Wright, Like you

2752
02:13:55,800 --> 02:13:58,680
Speaker 3: didn't really ever do anything to ruffle feathers too much. Now,

2753
02:13:58,760 --> 02:14:01,560
Speaker 3: Kirby Smart's got the Southern going. So some people are gonna,

2754
02:14:02,280 --> 02:14:04,120
Speaker 3: you know, they're they're gonna have their thoughts about that.

2755
02:14:04,280 --> 02:14:06,520
Speaker 3: But like Jay Wright was just kind of he was

2756
02:14:06,560 --> 02:14:09,240
Speaker 3: a professional. They'll know, won a lot of games. He

2757
02:14:09,360 --> 02:14:11,480
Speaker 3: did for them what guys that came before him couldn't

2758
02:14:11,520 --> 02:14:15,040
Speaker 3: do at that university. And like Kirby Smart, how long

2759
02:14:15,160 --> 02:14:18,840
Speaker 3: did Georgia long to get back into this level and

2760
02:14:18,960 --> 02:14:21,080
Speaker 3: felt like they were that close and they couldn't get

2761
02:14:21,120 --> 02:14:23,600
Speaker 3: there With Mark Rick, they couldn't get there. You know,

2762
02:14:23,880 --> 02:14:27,400
Speaker 3: it been since duly since they've been relevant to this degree.

2763
02:14:27,880 --> 02:14:32,360
Speaker 3: And so Kirby Smart comes in and I just think, again,

2764
02:14:32,480 --> 02:14:34,280
Speaker 3: I think your points right. I don't think he's going

2765
02:14:34,320 --> 02:14:35,880
Speaker 3: out there and trying to make friends of the media

2766
02:14:35,960 --> 02:14:38,000
Speaker 3: or anything. I think he's just very good at kind

2767
02:14:38,000 --> 02:14:42,120
Speaker 3: of keeping a low profile about himself, and he has not.

2768
02:14:42,720 --> 02:14:45,880
Speaker 3: He hasn't put himself out there to be an easy target,

2769
02:14:46,280 --> 02:14:50,000
Speaker 3: and he hasn't been particularly controversial. Should that be the

2770
02:14:50,120 --> 02:14:53,680
Speaker 3: rubric for how hard a story is covered? No, But

2771
02:14:53,880 --> 02:14:56,560
Speaker 3: in reality, is that generally how it goes? I would

2772
02:14:56,600 --> 02:14:59,200
Speaker 3: say yes, I agree one hundred percent.

2773
02:14:59,280 --> 02:15:00,640
Speaker 4: I don't have anything else to add.

2774
02:15:00,720 --> 02:15:03,040
Speaker 2: And and for people, listen, if if you care about

2775
02:15:03,080 --> 02:15:07,280
Speaker 2: college football, do with it what you want. But I'm

2776
02:15:07,560 --> 02:15:09,880
Speaker 2: I'm just blown away that this is not a bigger story.

2777
02:15:10,720 --> 02:15:13,200
Speaker 2: And I'm convinced again, if it was Nick Saban's program,

2778
02:15:13,320 --> 02:15:16,400
Speaker 2: Lincoln Riley's program, Jimbo Fisher's program, you had the same stats,

2779
02:15:16,920 --> 02:15:18,800
Speaker 2: it would be the biggest story in sports. Fox Sports

2780
02:15:18,920 --> 02:15:22,680
Speaker 2: Radio erin Torris, Jason Martin coming up, as we do

2781
02:15:23,080 --> 02:15:26,320
Speaker 2: every Saturday night into Sunday, we head out to Vegas

2782
02:15:26,360 --> 02:15:29,320
Speaker 2: because Bernie Fraddo, Boy oh boy, will Bernie have some

2783
02:15:29,400 --> 02:15:33,280
Speaker 2: good stuff on all sorts of things, including some stats

2784
02:15:33,400 --> 02:15:35,920
Speaker 2: on the hot dog eating contest that will blow your mind.

2785
02:15:36,200 --> 02:15:40,240
Speaker 4: Bernie Fraddle. Next, Fox Sports Radio, Welcome back, everybody.

2786
02:15:41,120 --> 02:15:45,320
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio aeron Torres Jason Martin broadcasting live from

2787
02:15:45,360 --> 02:15:48,320
Speaker 2: the Tireck dot Com studios and when you hear this

2788
02:15:48,680 --> 02:15:54,040
Speaker 2: song means we are headed out too beautiful and steamy

2789
02:15:54,240 --> 02:15:56,000
Speaker 2: one hundred and eight degrees today. I just looked it

2790
02:15:56,080 --> 02:16:00,760
Speaker 2: up Las Vegas. That's right, Bernie Fratto of the Bernie Show.

2791
02:16:00,800 --> 02:16:02,560
Speaker 2: You can hear him at the top of the hour,

2792
02:16:02,920 --> 02:16:04,880
Speaker 2: and Bernie, I just want to jump in and start

2793
02:16:04,920 --> 02:16:07,320
Speaker 2: with this. I saw this story right as we were

2794
02:16:07,360 --> 02:16:13,320
Speaker 2: going to break. DraftKings has now changed their NBA title odds.

2795
02:16:13,400 --> 02:16:16,720
Speaker 2: The Miami Heat opened at plus four all right, take

2796
02:16:16,760 --> 02:16:19,800
Speaker 2: them back. Miami opened the day their title odds for

2797
02:16:19,880 --> 02:16:22,400
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four were plus fourteen hundred. They are down

2798
02:16:22,480 --> 02:16:26,720
Speaker 2: to plus nine hundred. Is that something we need to monitor?

2799
02:16:26,960 --> 02:16:29,640
Speaker 2: Is that DraftKings and some of the other sportsbooks getting

2800
02:16:29,680 --> 02:16:32,240
Speaker 2: ahead of the curve on a potential Damian Lillard trade.

2801
02:16:32,600 --> 02:16:34,400
Speaker 4: What do you make of that news, Bernie, Yeah, you

2802
02:16:34,560 --> 02:16:35,080
Speaker 4: just nailed it.

2803
02:16:35,240 --> 02:16:38,160
Speaker 14: Pard b there it's a cya for the books to

2804
02:16:38,320 --> 02:16:42,600
Speaker 14: readjust the odds in advance of a Damian Lillard arrival

2805
02:16:42,760 --> 02:16:46,440
Speaker 14: in Miami so they don't get burned. It's happened in

2806
02:16:46,520 --> 02:16:49,640
Speaker 14: the past where the books got caught behind. Most notably,

2807
02:16:49,720 --> 02:16:53,240
Speaker 14: we've talked about this when Tom Brady signed with the

2808
02:16:53,320 --> 02:16:56,760
Speaker 14: Tampa Bay Bucks. They went from sixty to one to

2809
02:16:57,400 --> 02:17:00,040
Speaker 14: twenty to one after he signed, and you saw what

2810
02:17:00,160 --> 02:17:02,400
Speaker 14: happened there. So the books are always a lot of

2811
02:17:02,480 --> 02:17:05,480
Speaker 14: times very hyper vigilant when it comes to, you know,

2812
02:17:05,640 --> 02:17:06,560
Speaker 14: managing their risk.

2813
02:17:07,800 --> 02:17:09,480
Speaker 3: Bertie, do you think that's where he's gonna end up?

2814
02:17:09,520 --> 02:17:12,160
Speaker 3: Do you think he is gonna end up in Miami if.

2815
02:17:12,080 --> 02:17:13,240
Speaker 9: They can structure a deal.

2816
02:17:13,400 --> 02:17:17,440
Speaker 14: Yes, I think it's the likelihood. I think Dame wants

2817
02:17:17,520 --> 02:17:20,200
Speaker 14: to go there, but you know, it's not gonna be

2818
02:17:20,280 --> 02:17:22,959
Speaker 14: his decision. And I think you'll you'll hear from the Clippers,

2819
02:17:23,000 --> 02:17:24,840
Speaker 14: You'll hear from two or three teams, but that seems

2820
02:17:24,879 --> 02:17:27,200
Speaker 14: to be the odds on favorite at this point. We'll

2821
02:17:27,240 --> 02:17:28,200
Speaker 14: have to see how it plays out.

2822
02:17:28,680 --> 02:17:31,520
Speaker 2: So obviously we're heading into the July fourth weekend and

2823
02:17:31,959 --> 02:17:35,160
Speaker 2: one of the many, you know, big big events over

2824
02:17:35,200 --> 02:17:37,080
Speaker 2: the course of the July fourth weekend is of course,

2825
02:17:37,200 --> 02:17:41,280
Speaker 2: the hot dog eating contest and Bernie I I no

2826
02:17:41,440 --> 02:17:43,879
Speaker 2: one does their prep work on the hot dog eating

2827
02:17:43,959 --> 02:17:46,920
Speaker 2: contests quite like Bernie Fratto does. What do we need

2828
02:17:47,040 --> 02:17:50,440
Speaker 2: to know going into the hot dog eating contest on Tuesday?

2829
02:17:50,680 --> 02:17:54,840
Speaker 14: Well, again, this has actually become quite the event and

2830
02:17:55,000 --> 02:17:57,200
Speaker 14: not just for the average fan.

2831
02:17:57,560 --> 02:17:59,880
Speaker 9: It's something that people do bet on.

2832
02:18:01,000 --> 02:18:03,760
Speaker 14: Maybe one or two books might book that here in Vegas,

2833
02:18:03,840 --> 02:18:06,320
Speaker 14: but plenty of offshore places.

2834
02:18:06,280 --> 02:18:09,320
Speaker 9: That'll do it. And you know, Joe, you can't really

2835
02:18:09,400 --> 02:18:10,279
Speaker 9: bet on Joey.

2836
02:18:10,160 --> 02:18:12,840
Speaker 14: Chestnut to win it because he's minus five thousand, right,

2837
02:18:12,920 --> 02:18:15,840
Speaker 14: you got that's betting fifty dollars to win one dollar.

2838
02:18:16,400 --> 02:18:19,680
Speaker 14: But two bets that people are looking at pretty closely

2839
02:18:19,840 --> 02:18:24,560
Speaker 14: are one will of world record be set and Chestnuts

2840
02:18:24,640 --> 02:18:27,600
Speaker 14: record is seventy six, which you said in twenty twenty one,

2841
02:18:28,480 --> 02:18:30,280
Speaker 14: and he had a big drop off last year.

2842
02:18:31,040 --> 02:18:32,240
Speaker 9: He only ate sixty three.

2843
02:18:32,360 --> 02:18:35,640
Speaker 14: I say only in air quotes, right, And so there's

2844
02:18:35,680 --> 02:18:40,199
Speaker 14: a thought that he's motivated to defeat the over under

2845
02:18:40,360 --> 02:18:41,720
Speaker 14: of seventy three and a half.

2846
02:18:42,360 --> 02:18:46,280
Speaker 9: It's a pretty heavily favored to the No.

2847
02:18:47,320 --> 02:18:51,279
Speaker 14: Minus two eighty and I think for good reason, because ironically,

2848
02:18:52,360 --> 02:18:54,400
Speaker 14: you know, you'd look at this event and say, well,

2849
02:18:54,800 --> 02:18:57,480
Speaker 14: you know, how do you handicap this? Well, the cooler

2850
02:18:57,520 --> 02:19:01,360
Speaker 14: the weather, the better the conditions is more conducive to eating.

2851
02:19:01,560 --> 02:19:03,720
Speaker 14: But you say, well, it's always going to be hot

2852
02:19:03,760 --> 02:19:06,359
Speaker 14: on July fourth, But yeah, but he checked the humidity

2853
02:19:06,360 --> 02:19:08,400
Speaker 14: as well, so it's going to be ninety degrees and

2854
02:19:08,520 --> 02:19:10,720
Speaker 14: very humid, and I understand the air quality in New York.

2855
02:19:11,000 --> 02:19:13,560
Speaker 14: He's not great due to some recent events. So I

2856
02:19:13,640 --> 02:19:16,240
Speaker 14: would lean under on that deal. And the other thing

2857
02:19:16,360 --> 02:19:18,160
Speaker 14: is will the world record be set? Will he break

2858
02:19:18,240 --> 02:19:22,920
Speaker 14: seventy six? The answer would be null. But you don't

2859
02:19:23,000 --> 02:19:27,160
Speaker 14: ever bet against Joey Chestnut because this is a guy

2860
02:19:27,360 --> 02:19:30,120
Speaker 14: not to be messed with. Right, he owns twenty four

2861
02:19:30,320 --> 02:19:33,920
Speaker 14: world eating records. He had fifty three Taco Bell tacos

2862
02:19:33,959 --> 02:19:36,120
Speaker 14: in ten minutes, you know, one hundred and twenty one

2863
02:19:36,640 --> 02:19:39,879
Speaker 14: twenties and six minutes, thirty two Big Max in thirty

2864
02:19:39,920 --> 02:19:43,440
Speaker 14: eight minutes. You know those little Hostess donuts. He had

2865
02:19:43,440 --> 02:19:46,039
Speaker 14: two hundred and fifty seven of them in six minutes.

2866
02:19:46,120 --> 02:19:49,320
Speaker 14: So I mean that's just four of the twenty four

2867
02:19:49,400 --> 02:19:52,560
Speaker 14: records you own. So as is the case, people will

2868
02:19:52,600 --> 02:19:56,200
Speaker 14: be watching. This has actually become quite an event. And Jason,

2869
02:19:56,240 --> 02:19:59,000
Speaker 14: I don't blame you for gofawing, because you do roll

2870
02:19:59,040 --> 02:20:01,879
Speaker 14: your eyes at this thing. But it's it's become a thing.

2871
02:20:01,959 --> 02:20:04,520
Speaker 14: And you know, this is a guy who's Babe Ruth.

2872
02:20:04,560 --> 02:20:07,200
Speaker 14: He's won fifteen at the last sixteen and he's won

2873
02:20:07,280 --> 02:20:09,440
Speaker 14: seven in a row, so it's something to watch.

2874
02:20:10,440 --> 02:20:12,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's definitely something to watch. There are also a

2875
02:20:12,720 --> 02:20:15,160
Speaker 3: lot of other channels that will be what have the

2876
02:20:15,240 --> 02:20:17,480
Speaker 3: thing so that I'll be watching. So you, I mean,

2877
02:20:17,480 --> 02:20:20,520
Speaker 3: you broke it down beautifully burning. Are you someone that

2878
02:20:20,680 --> 02:20:24,080
Speaker 3: watches this or do you just have the factoids and

2879
02:20:24,320 --> 02:20:26,560
Speaker 3: we're all gonna see that Joey Chestnut one and some

2880
02:20:26,720 --> 02:20:28,480
Speaker 3: blurb and then we're gonna move on with our lives.

2881
02:20:28,480 --> 02:20:30,360
Speaker 3: There's just something that actually does interest you.

2882
02:20:30,720 --> 02:20:34,440
Speaker 14: No, it interests me because there's a little bit of

2883
02:20:34,600 --> 02:20:39,800
Speaker 14: folly to this, but there are always storylines and I

2884
02:20:39,959 --> 02:20:43,680
Speaker 14: watch it not to see necessarily the result, but to

2885
02:20:43,879 --> 02:20:46,520
Speaker 14: watch people's reactions and to watch it, you know, long

2886
02:20:46,640 --> 02:20:49,440
Speaker 14: the data things of that nature, and watch this Joey

2887
02:20:49,560 --> 02:20:51,760
Speaker 14: Chessnut story continued. I mean, I mean they did a

2888
02:20:51,840 --> 02:20:53,600
Speaker 14: thirty for thirty on the guy from crind Out Lot,

2889
02:20:53,720 --> 02:20:56,920
Speaker 14: so he's you know, he's an interesting cat. And I'm

2890
02:20:57,000 --> 02:20:59,960
Speaker 14: expecting maybe something goofy to have this year because happened

2891
02:21:00,080 --> 02:21:03,280
Speaker 14: this year for simple reason. We're at July first, which

2892
02:21:03,320 --> 02:21:06,360
Speaker 14: I consider kind of the halftime of the sports here, right,

2893
02:21:06,520 --> 02:21:10,360
Speaker 14: and this has been an incredibly eventful sports year, more

2894
02:21:10,400 --> 02:21:12,920
Speaker 14: so than I can remember in recent times. We just

2895
02:21:13,040 --> 02:21:15,560
Speaker 14: had the Stanley Cup final hoisted here in Las Vegas.

2896
02:21:16,040 --> 02:21:19,840
Speaker 14: So you had a Stanley Cup champion to a team

2897
02:21:19,920 --> 02:21:22,440
Speaker 14: from the desert and they beat a team from the beach.

2898
02:21:23,000 --> 02:21:25,800
Speaker 14: You got hockey, and we're talking deserts and beaches. You

2899
02:21:25,879 --> 02:21:28,199
Speaker 14: got the second team from Oakland in five years moving

2900
02:21:28,240 --> 02:21:29,040
Speaker 14: to the same city.

2901
02:21:29,320 --> 02:21:31,560
Speaker 9: It leads. It's announcement. They're on their way, supposedly.

2902
02:21:32,720 --> 02:21:35,200
Speaker 14: You know, a few months ago you had the liv

2903
02:21:35,840 --> 02:21:39,040
Speaker 14: and living the PGA tours, pissing on each other's shoes,

2904
02:21:39,040 --> 02:21:40,039
Speaker 14: and now they're in bed together.

2905
02:21:40,440 --> 02:21:43,240
Speaker 9: One needs. One's desperate for money, the other's despot for attention.

2906
02:21:43,600 --> 02:21:46,280
Speaker 14: You get the Arizona Diamondbacks in first place. You can

2907
02:21:46,360 --> 02:21:48,640
Speaker 14: got them three hundred to one at the beginning of

2908
02:21:48,680 --> 02:21:51,200
Speaker 14: the year to go to the World Series.

2909
02:21:51,680 --> 02:21:52,560
Speaker 9: And not for nothing.

2910
02:21:52,640 --> 02:21:56,080
Speaker 14: We haven't had a perfect game in eleven years. But

2911
02:21:56,160 --> 02:21:58,760
Speaker 14: we get one the other night from Domingo Herman. And

2912
02:21:58,840 --> 02:22:01,640
Speaker 14: there's a backstory there too, because his uncle that he

2913
02:22:01,760 --> 02:22:04,879
Speaker 14: was very close to was like a father, died two

2914
02:22:04,959 --> 02:22:07,440
Speaker 14: days before he pitched, and I understand the day he pitched,

2915
02:22:07,720 --> 02:22:09,560
Speaker 14: he was crying in the clubhouse all day, it wasn't

2916
02:22:09,560 --> 02:22:11,440
Speaker 14: sure if he didn't be able to go. He'd given

2917
02:22:11,560 --> 02:22:14,160
Speaker 14: up ten runs his start before that, seven runs to

2918
02:22:14,240 --> 02:22:16,720
Speaker 14: start before that, goes out there and throws a no no,

2919
02:22:16,959 --> 02:22:20,720
Speaker 14: dedicates the game to his uncle. And let's not forget

2920
02:22:21,160 --> 02:22:26,240
Speaker 14: he had some domestic violence charges following him. And there's

2921
02:22:26,280 --> 02:22:28,880
Speaker 14: another bet that cashed because at the beginning of the

2922
02:22:28,959 --> 02:22:31,880
Speaker 14: year you could have gotten no minus eleven hundred that

2923
02:22:31,959 --> 02:22:34,600
Speaker 14: there would be no perfect game, Yes plus seven hundred.

2924
02:22:34,640 --> 02:22:37,800
Speaker 14: Interestingly enough, the books got hurt on this one bet MGM.

2925
02:22:38,080 --> 02:22:39,879
Speaker 14: One hundred and eight people bet the yes, and only

2926
02:22:39,959 --> 02:22:42,520
Speaker 14: four bet to know, We're only at the halfway point,

2927
02:22:43,120 --> 02:22:44,959
Speaker 14: and I can't wait to see what happens to remainder

2928
02:22:45,000 --> 02:22:47,640
Speaker 14: of the year. But I guess we're gonna expect the unexpected.

2929
02:22:47,400 --> 02:22:48,200
Speaker 4: Barn last one for me.

2930
02:22:48,240 --> 02:22:49,840
Speaker 2: I mean, he talked about the halfway point and he

2931
02:22:49,920 --> 02:22:52,480
Speaker 2: missed the most single, most important sports story, which is

2932
02:22:53,000 --> 02:22:56,160
Speaker 2: the Yukon Husky's winning their fifth national championship in men's basketball.

2933
02:22:56,560 --> 02:23:00,280
Speaker 2: And rumor is you have a hot college hoops tip

2934
02:23:00,440 --> 02:23:03,199
Speaker 2: here in July, so the floor is yours, my friend.

2935
02:23:03,520 --> 02:23:04,840
Speaker 9: Yeah, you're gonna like this year.

2936
02:23:04,879 --> 02:23:07,160
Speaker 14: And let me set this up so, Yukon and San

2937
02:23:07,200 --> 02:23:11,320
Speaker 14: Diego State ruined the finals last year. San Diego State

2938
02:23:11,760 --> 02:23:14,800
Speaker 14: really gets no love in terms of heading into next year.

2939
02:23:14,840 --> 02:23:18,360
Speaker 14: They're very long odds long favorites. They're one hundred to

2940
02:23:18,560 --> 02:23:23,480
Speaker 14: one to win the national championship next year. Bama should

2941
02:23:23,480 --> 02:23:27,119
Speaker 14: be good. They're fifteen to one, Arnie's Arizona Wildcats fifteen

2942
02:23:27,160 --> 02:23:30,320
Speaker 14: to one, Duke thirteen to one. But Aaron Torres Yukot

2943
02:23:30,480 --> 02:23:33,560
Speaker 14: Huskies the odds on favorite to win the title again

2944
02:23:33,600 --> 02:23:36,880
Speaker 14: in twenty twenty four eleven to one. So and I

2945
02:23:36,920 --> 02:23:39,320
Speaker 14: think those are legitimate odds. And it would not surprise

2946
02:23:39,400 --> 02:23:40,600
Speaker 14: me to see connect get repeat.

2947
02:23:41,959 --> 02:23:45,440
Speaker 3: Another thing that I know that you have for ust tonight, Bernie.

2948
02:23:45,800 --> 02:23:47,480
Speaker 3: We haven't gotten to talk about this on the show.

2949
02:23:47,560 --> 02:23:50,840
Speaker 3: Kind of a serious, well not kind of a very serious,

2950
02:23:51,000 --> 02:23:54,440
Speaker 3: tragic story. Ryan Mallett passing away to the former Arkansas

2951
02:23:54,560 --> 02:23:57,680
Speaker 3: quarterback played in the NFL, drafted by the Patriots. What

2952
02:23:57,760 --> 02:23:59,640
Speaker 3: do you have for us on Ryan Mallet?

2953
02:24:00,080 --> 02:24:01,640
Speaker 9: Real quickly and I want to give it.

2954
02:24:01,680 --> 02:24:04,720
Speaker 14: I gave a tribute to Ryan Malick Latt tried that

2955
02:24:04,760 --> 02:24:08,000
Speaker 14: get in English, gave it tribute to Ryan Mallett last

2956
02:24:08,120 --> 02:24:11,280
Speaker 14: night and got a lot of response. Everybody knows that

2957
02:24:11,360 --> 02:24:14,720
Speaker 14: Ryanick Malick had a real good career at Arkansas and

2958
02:24:14,760 --> 02:24:17,560
Speaker 14: then obviously three teams in the NFL over five years,

2959
02:24:17,600 --> 02:24:20,840
Speaker 14: and he was coaching football in Arkansas, his home state

2960
02:24:21,120 --> 02:24:24,200
Speaker 14: was very popular. But people don't remember that Ryan Mallett

2961
02:24:24,240 --> 02:24:26,640
Speaker 14: was a freshman at Michigan in two thousand and seven,

2962
02:24:26,760 --> 02:24:29,920
Speaker 14: Lloyd Carr's last year. He enrolled in school there, and

2963
02:24:30,000 --> 02:24:32,920
Speaker 14: he was behind Chad Henny. And of course two thousand

2964
02:24:32,920 --> 02:24:37,320
Speaker 14: and seven was the year Michigan unceremoniously lost to Appalachian

2965
02:24:37,360 --> 02:24:39,680
Speaker 14: State and set the season upside down.

2966
02:24:40,200 --> 02:24:42,400
Speaker 9: Week three or week four. Chad Henny, who I think

2967
02:24:42,400 --> 02:24:44,720
Speaker 9: is still knocking around in the NFL, got hurt.

2968
02:24:45,480 --> 02:24:48,640
Speaker 14: Mallet steps in, had seven eight nine appearances, did very well,

2969
02:24:48,720 --> 02:24:52,840
Speaker 14: became a fan favorite. But then Lloyd Carr retired in November.

2970
02:24:53,000 --> 02:24:55,680
Speaker 14: Rich Rod came in with his twenty Bologna RPO that

2971
02:24:55,760 --> 02:24:57,440
Speaker 14: did not work in the Big ten, and he told Mallet,

2972
02:24:57,480 --> 02:24:58,119
Speaker 14: you're not my guy.

2973
02:24:58,240 --> 02:25:01,480
Speaker 9: So Mallet transferred to Arkansas. Here's the quick encounter.

2974
02:25:02,120 --> 02:25:04,880
Speaker 14: I talked about this with my old radio partner, Dennis Fithian,

2975
02:25:05,160 --> 02:25:08,160
Speaker 14: who's still active in that market. The other day, Lloyd

2976
02:25:08,240 --> 02:25:12,440
Speaker 14: Carr had a charity car wash right before the season started,

2977
02:25:12,480 --> 02:25:14,800
Speaker 14: and Dennis brought his little seven year old niece with

2978
02:25:14,920 --> 02:25:17,880
Speaker 14: the Michigan football. She was looking around for autographs and

2979
02:25:18,080 --> 02:25:20,640
Speaker 14: she happened to see Ryan Mallett, who was the tallest

2980
02:25:20,680 --> 02:25:23,120
Speaker 14: guy there. So she walked up to him with the football,

2981
02:25:23,680 --> 02:25:25,480
Speaker 14: and you could see from afar, I don't know what

2982
02:25:25,520 --> 02:25:27,360
Speaker 14: they were talking about. He kind of knelt down, made

2983
02:25:27,360 --> 02:25:29,760
Speaker 14: a big deal over her, signed the football and she

2984
02:25:29,879 --> 02:25:31,360
Speaker 14: was on our way. She comes running back to her

2985
02:25:31,440 --> 02:25:33,960
Speaker 14: uncle Dennis and says, I really like him. He's my

2986
02:25:34,120 --> 02:25:37,040
Speaker 14: favorite one. He's really nice. You don't forget these things.

2987
02:25:37,080 --> 02:25:39,520
Speaker 14: And when you look at the tributes that Ryan Mallett

2988
02:25:39,560 --> 02:25:44,480
Speaker 14: has gotten, obviously everywhere he went he had a positive impact.

2989
02:25:44,560 --> 02:25:47,000
Speaker 14: Even Coach Belichick had some very good things to say

2990
02:25:47,000 --> 02:25:49,640
Speaker 14: about him, so to Tom Brady. So because I had

2991
02:25:49,680 --> 02:25:52,640
Speaker 14: one of those odd, adiosyncratic encounters like I've had all

2992
02:25:52,720 --> 02:25:53,080
Speaker 14: my life.

2993
02:25:53,280 --> 02:25:55,520
Speaker 9: Very sad to see Ryan Mallett pass at thirty five,

2994
02:25:55,879 --> 02:25:57,000
Speaker 9: but his impact will live on.

2995
02:25:57,520 --> 02:25:57,720
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2996
02:25:57,760 --> 02:26:00,360
Speaker 2: Bobby Petrino, his former head coach at Arkansas, had actually

2997
02:26:00,360 --> 02:26:04,600
Speaker 2: had a very nice tribute as well. Awful story, but

2998
02:26:04,840 --> 02:26:09,760
Speaker 2: we always love any extra insight on these athletes, you know,

2999
02:26:09,800 --> 02:26:11,840
Speaker 2: in any way, shape or form, but certainly with the

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02:26:11,920 --> 02:26:15,000
Speaker 2: passing of Ryan Mallett. This week Bernie Fratto of the

3001
02:26:15,080 --> 02:26:17,560
Speaker 2: Bernie Fratto Show. You can follow him on Twitter at

3002
02:26:17,600 --> 02:26:20,320
Speaker 2: Bernie Fratto and of course make sure to listen at

3003
02:26:20,440 --> 02:26:21,600
Speaker 2: the top of the hour.

3004
02:26:21,959 --> 02:26:22,320
Speaker 3: Bernie.

3005
02:26:22,440 --> 02:26:25,080
Speaker 2: As always, we appreciate the time, we appreciate the insight

3006
02:26:25,480 --> 02:26:28,200
Speaker 2: and with ak forward listening to you in twenty six

3007
02:26:28,280 --> 02:26:29,440
Speaker 2: minutes from now, Bernie, thank you.

3008
02:26:29,800 --> 02:26:32,440
Speaker 9: Okay, hey, guys, enjoy your July fourth weekend.

3009
02:26:32,680 --> 02:26:33,320
Speaker 4: Thank you very much.

3010
02:26:33,360 --> 02:26:35,400
Speaker 2: That is Bernie Fraddo of the Bernie Fratto Show. He

3011
02:26:35,480 --> 02:26:37,560
Speaker 2: will be following us at the top of the hour

3012
02:26:38,000 --> 02:26:40,720
Speaker 2: coming up. React to some of what Bernie Fratto said.

3013
02:26:41,080 --> 02:26:42,600
Speaker 2: Before we do that, though, let's toss it over the

3014
02:26:42,680 --> 02:26:43,760
Speaker 2: news desk Steve de Seger.

3015
02:26:44,000 --> 02:26:44,560
Speaker 4: What's trening.

3016
02:26:44,800 --> 02:26:47,280
Speaker 10: NBA's free agency period started last night?

3017
02:26:47,440 --> 02:26:48,480
Speaker 3: More news this evening.

3018
02:26:48,600 --> 02:26:51,920
Speaker 10: Sacramento Kings gave Demantas Sabonis a new five year deal.

3019
02:26:52,240 --> 02:26:55,000
Speaker 10: ESPN says it's worth almost two hundred million dollars in

3020
02:26:55,120 --> 02:26:59,160
Speaker 10: new money. Trail Blazers guard Damian Lillard requested a trade.

3021
02:26:59,200 --> 02:27:03,240
Speaker 10: The Blazers just drafted guard Scoot Henderson. The Lakers resigned

3022
02:27:03,280 --> 02:27:07,160
Speaker 10: D'Angelo Russell and Austin Reeves. The Clippers resigned Russell Westbrook,

3023
02:27:07,200 --> 02:27:09,920
Speaker 10: and the Clips are trading for kJ Martin from Houston.

3024
02:27:10,240 --> 02:27:13,320
Speaker 10: The Hornets will give guard LaMelo Ball a five year extension.

3025
02:27:13,400 --> 02:27:18,720
Speaker 10: Milwaukee resigned center Brook Lopez. Orlando resigned Moe Wagner. Cleveland

3026
02:27:18,760 --> 02:27:22,160
Speaker 10: acquired Max stru Sex of Miami. Houston will sign Dylan

3027
02:27:22,280 --> 02:27:25,400
Speaker 10: Brooks Sex of Memphis. The Rockets are close to acquiring

3028
02:27:25,520 --> 02:27:28,840
Speaker 10: veteran guard Patty Mills from the Nets. The Pacers will

3029
02:27:28,879 --> 02:27:32,000
Speaker 10: trade for Obi Toppin from the Knicks. New York is

3030
02:27:32,080 --> 02:27:36,119
Speaker 10: signing guard Dante de Vincenzo, Philadelphia is giving veteran guard

3031
02:27:36,240 --> 02:27:40,280
Speaker 10: Patrick Beverly a one year deal, and there's a report

3032
02:27:40,320 --> 02:27:44,160
Speaker 10: tonight the Dallas signed guard Dante Exum. Ricky Fowler leads

3033
02:27:44,200 --> 02:27:46,680
Speaker 10: by one stroke at the PGA Tour stop in Detroit,

3034
02:27:46,840 --> 02:27:50,400
Speaker 10: chance of rain there tomorrow, Colin Morrikawa's four back. Fowler

3035
02:27:50,480 --> 02:27:53,320
Speaker 10: hasn't won on tour in four years. Bryson de Shamba

3036
02:27:53,440 --> 02:27:55,920
Speaker 10: leads by one at the Livegolf event in Spain. Brooks

3037
02:27:56,000 --> 02:27:59,000
Speaker 10: Kepka's three back Dustin Johnson fell to a tie from

3038
02:27:59,040 --> 02:28:01,760
Speaker 10: the lead down to four plays five shots back. They'll

3039
02:28:01,800 --> 02:28:04,880
Speaker 10: be golfing in London next week. US Women's Open is

3040
02:28:04,959 --> 02:28:08,360
Speaker 10: next week at Pebble Beach. In tennis, Wimbledon starts on Monday.

3041
02:28:08,640 --> 02:28:13,080
Speaker 10: Birmingham won the USFL title tonight. Most NFL veterans reports

3042
02:28:13,160 --> 02:28:18,000
Speaker 10: training camp. On June July twenty fifth, NASCAR's Infinity Race

3043
02:28:18,080 --> 02:28:21,039
Speaker 10: in Chicago was postponed to tomorrow morning due to bad weather,

3044
02:28:21,440 --> 02:28:23,800
Speaker 10: but there's also a chance of rain there tomorrow during

3045
02:28:23,840 --> 02:28:25,800
Speaker 10: the day, The Cup Series Street Race is due to

3046
02:28:25,879 --> 02:28:29,360
Speaker 10: start at five thirty pm Eastern time. US men's soccer

3047
02:28:29,440 --> 02:28:32,480
Speaker 10: continues the Gold Cup Tournament Sunday night against Trinidad on

3048
02:28:32,680 --> 02:28:36,400
Speaker 10: Fox TV from Charlotte seven pm Eastern time. Trinidad is

3049
02:28:36,440 --> 02:28:39,600
Speaker 10: only in this tournament because Nicaragua was kicked out last month.

3050
02:28:39,800 --> 02:28:42,440
Speaker 10: The Americans quarter final in this tourney would be July

3051
02:28:42,680 --> 02:28:46,920
Speaker 10: ninth in Cincinnati. To Major League Baseball, Yankees and Cardinals

3052
02:28:46,959 --> 02:28:49,840
Speaker 10: split a double header after the rainout last night in

3053
02:28:49,959 --> 02:28:53,200
Speaker 10: Saint Louis. Cardinals led the opener eleven to nothing in

3054
02:28:53,280 --> 02:28:56,119
Speaker 10: the fifth inning. The win to Jack Flaherty, Paul Goldschmid

3055
02:28:56,160 --> 02:28:59,200
Speaker 10: a homer and four RBIs eleven four was the final

3056
02:28:59,280 --> 02:29:01,800
Speaker 10: over the Yanks. New York did take game two six

3057
02:29:01,920 --> 02:29:04,080
Speaker 10: to two Detroit with a homer in the top of

3058
02:29:04,120 --> 02:29:07,080
Speaker 10: the tenth. One at Colorado four to two, Oakland, thanks

3059
02:29:07,120 --> 02:29:09,160
Speaker 10: to an error in the tenth, beat the White Sox

3060
02:29:09,200 --> 02:29:11,800
Speaker 10: seven to six. Their a's record was twenty two and

3061
02:29:12,120 --> 02:29:15,480
Speaker 10: sixty two this year. Arizona beat the Angels in one

3062
02:29:15,480 --> 02:29:17,680
Speaker 10: of the late games, three to one. The Halos offense

3063
02:29:17,760 --> 02:29:21,320
Speaker 10: went three for thirty. Shohey Otani, who last night hit

3064
02:29:21,400 --> 02:29:23,800
Speaker 10: his thirtieth home run of the season already he'll be

3065
02:29:23,879 --> 02:29:26,920
Speaker 10: pitching by the way Tuesday. Otani at the plate tonight,

3066
02:29:27,040 --> 02:29:29,680
Speaker 10: oh for four to two strikeouts. Mike Trout went oh

3067
02:29:29,720 --> 02:29:33,279
Speaker 10: for three to three strikeouts in the loss, and Diamondbacks,

3068
02:29:33,360 --> 02:29:36,120
Speaker 10: first in the NLS, now lead by three games over

3069
02:29:36,200 --> 02:29:39,680
Speaker 10: the Dodgers and Giants, who each lost. Dodgers gave up

3070
02:29:39,720 --> 02:29:41,959
Speaker 10: five in the first and lost at Kansas City six

3071
02:29:42,000 --> 02:29:45,640
Speaker 10: to four. LA's offense left ten on base. Giants lost

3072
02:29:45,680 --> 02:29:48,160
Speaker 10: to Justin Verlander and the Mets in New York four

3073
02:29:48,200 --> 02:29:51,120
Speaker 10: to one time in the game two hours and ten minutes.

3074
02:29:51,560 --> 02:29:54,160
Speaker 10: Mets offense only had four hits, but three solo homers,

3075
02:29:54,200 --> 02:29:57,000
Speaker 10: and they won the game. Are you aware of Nathan

3076
02:29:57,080 --> 02:30:00,640
Speaker 10: Evaldi's season? The guy who was a post heason hero

3077
02:30:00,959 --> 02:30:04,440
Speaker 10: in twenty eighteen for Boston is pitching for Texas and

3078
02:30:04,560 --> 02:30:07,120
Speaker 10: got to win over Houston five to two today. Evaldi

3079
02:30:07,240 --> 02:30:10,560
Speaker 10: with seven scoreless innings. He is ten and three and

3080
02:30:10,640 --> 02:30:13,680
Speaker 10: the Texas Rangers record is fifty and thirty three.

3081
02:30:13,920 --> 02:30:15,879
Speaker 4: At this point in the AL.

3082
02:30:15,760 --> 02:30:19,360
Speaker 10: Central, the Minnesota Twins are alone in first with a

3083
02:30:19,440 --> 02:30:22,720
Speaker 10: record of forty two and forty two. Twins won one

3084
02:30:22,840 --> 02:30:25,680
Speaker 10: nothing at Baltimore. There's still a game up on the Guardians,

3085
02:30:25,760 --> 02:30:28,000
Speaker 10: as Cleveland won the late game over the Cubs six

3086
02:30:28,040 --> 02:30:31,080
Speaker 10: to nothing. That game ended close to midnight Central time,

3087
02:30:31,240 --> 02:30:32,000
Speaker 10: long rain delay.

3088
02:30:32,040 --> 02:30:32,480
Speaker 4: At the start.

3089
02:30:32,760 --> 02:30:35,160
Speaker 10: Cody Bellinger of the Cubs three hits, but the rest

3090
02:30:35,200 --> 02:30:38,599
Speaker 10: of the team went two for twenty eight with thirteen strikeouts.

3091
02:30:38,920 --> 02:30:42,080
Speaker 10: Seattle defeated Tampa Bay and Tyler glassnow eight to three.

3092
02:30:42,200 --> 02:30:44,960
Speaker 10: Glass now did have eleven strikeouts before coming out in

3093
02:30:45,040 --> 02:30:48,280
Speaker 10: the sixth. Rays pitcher Shane McClanahan, who's eleven and one,

3094
02:30:48,400 --> 02:30:51,240
Speaker 10: goes on the il with back tightness, and Tampa Bay's

3095
02:30:51,280 --> 02:30:53,400
Speaker 10: Randy A. Rosarina says he will be in the home

3096
02:30:53,480 --> 02:30:56,520
Speaker 10: run Derby this month. The full All Star Game rosters

3097
02:30:56,520 --> 02:30:59,480
Speaker 10: will be revealed tomorrow. The All Star Game for twenty

3098
02:30:59,560 --> 02:31:02,080
Speaker 10: twenty three, we'll be in Seattle a week from Tuesday,

3099
02:31:02,240 --> 02:31:07,560
Speaker 10: July eleventh, on Fox TV. Philadelphia nineteen to four over Washington,

3100
02:31:07,640 --> 02:31:10,440
Speaker 10: all the scoring in the first five innings. Boston threw

3101
02:31:10,480 --> 02:31:12,600
Speaker 10: out a runner at home to end the game, winning

3102
02:31:12,640 --> 02:31:15,880
Speaker 10: seven to six. At Toronto in the NL Central Red's

3103
02:31:15,920 --> 02:31:18,920
Speaker 10: now tied with the Brewers for first. Brewers won eleven

3104
02:31:18,959 --> 02:31:21,680
Speaker 10: eight at Pittsburgh. Reds were beaten at home twelve five

3105
02:31:21,800 --> 02:31:24,520
Speaker 10: by San Diego, which had lost six straight. And then

3106
02:31:24,560 --> 02:31:27,920
Speaker 10: there's the Atlanta Braves with another win seven straight, seven

3107
02:31:28,000 --> 02:31:31,360
Speaker 10: nothing the final over Miami the Marlins. Luis a riyaz

3108
02:31:31,400 --> 02:31:33,800
Speaker 10: Bry the way one for four, he's betting three eighty eight,

3109
02:31:34,120 --> 02:31:36,720
Speaker 10: but the Braves scored six runs in the first inning today.

3110
02:31:37,520 --> 02:31:40,640
Speaker 10: Ronald Acunya his twenty first homer, betting three thirty three.

3111
02:31:40,959 --> 02:31:44,119
Speaker 10: Ozzi Alby's with his nineteenth home run. Charlie Morton the win.

3112
02:31:44,200 --> 02:31:48,560
Speaker 10: The Atlanta Braves record fifty five and twenty seven.

3113
02:31:49,280 --> 02:31:51,959
Speaker 2: Back to you, Thank you very much, Steve. The Saga

3114
02:31:52,120 --> 02:31:54,840
Speaker 2: have a great evening. The Saga will be back tomorrow.

3115
02:31:55,000 --> 02:31:58,000
Speaker 2: Unless something, let's get crazy holiday plans to saga. But

3116
02:31:58,160 --> 02:32:00,400
Speaker 2: now I'll be here, be here the next day, yeah, okay,

3117
02:32:01,640 --> 02:32:03,000
Speaker 2: in the back, okay, all.

3118
02:32:02,920 --> 02:32:03,760
Speaker 4: Right, well, very good.

3119
02:32:03,800 --> 02:32:06,119
Speaker 2: He will be back with you from Salam and Mark

3120
02:32:06,160 --> 02:32:09,320
Speaker 2: Willard tomorrow as well as Arnie Spanner and Chris Plank.

3121
02:32:09,720 --> 02:32:12,240
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio Era Tours, Jason Martin. I'll tell you what,

3122
02:32:12,400 --> 02:32:16,000
Speaker 2: Jason will come back. We'll wrap the show and we

3123
02:32:16,080 --> 02:32:19,320
Speaker 2: will preview your favorite event on the sports calendar, the

3124
02:32:19,400 --> 02:32:20,440
Speaker 2: hot Dog Eating Contest.

3125
02:32:20,520 --> 02:32:22,080
Speaker 4: That's next Fox Sports Trety.

3126
02:32:24,000 --> 02:32:26,200
Speaker 15: Schwarb' batting here with the bases loaded, he's got the

3127
02:32:26,440 --> 02:32:30,560
Speaker 15: only Grand Slam of the year by Philly. Ward delivers

3128
02:32:31,080 --> 02:32:33,480
Speaker 15: and he swings and drives one high and deep to right.

3129
02:32:33,640 --> 02:32:36,080
Speaker 15: And now he's got the second Grand Slam of the

3130
02:32:36,160 --> 02:32:42,760
Speaker 15: year by a Philly Kyle swarmert with his twenty second

3131
02:32:42,840 --> 02:32:48,400
Speaker 15: home run of the season. And it's nineteen to four, Phillies,

3132
02:32:48,560 --> 02:32:50,280
Speaker 15: and we're in the bottom of the fifth inning.

3133
02:32:51,520 --> 02:32:56,199
Speaker 2: Grand Slam by Kyle Schwarber, courtesy of the Phillies Radio Network.

3134
02:32:56,280 --> 02:32:58,480
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3139
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Speaker 2: this last segment to preview the week ahead Jason, but

3140
02:33:16,640 --> 02:33:18,800
Speaker 2: as we learned earlier in the show, the match has

3141
02:33:18,840 --> 02:33:21,400
Speaker 2: already happened, so we can't preview that. But I do

3142
02:33:21,560 --> 02:33:23,040
Speaker 2: want to ask you, and I'll bring in Pat and

3143
02:33:23,080 --> 02:33:25,480
Speaker 2: Chris to wrap the show as well. I'll start with you, though, Jason,

3144
02:33:26,760 --> 02:33:29,400
Speaker 2: yay or nay on the hot dog eating Contest? I

3145
02:33:29,560 --> 02:33:32,400
Speaker 2: think I know the answer from your commentary with Bernie.

3146
02:33:32,840 --> 02:33:35,280
Speaker 2: Will you be watching the hot dog eating Contest? Are

3147
02:33:35,320 --> 02:33:37,040
Speaker 2: you into the hot dog eating contest?

3148
02:33:37,160 --> 02:33:37,320
Speaker 3: Yes?

3149
02:33:37,440 --> 02:33:37,600
Speaker 13: Or no?

3150
02:33:39,200 --> 02:33:45,040
Speaker 3: No, not in any way, shape or form. I look,

3151
02:33:45,200 --> 02:33:49,840
Speaker 3: I get Joey Chestnuts dominance. I remember Kobe Yashi. I

3152
02:33:49,879 --> 02:33:52,119
Speaker 3: can understand it is a little bit of a side show,

3153
02:33:52,320 --> 02:33:54,440
Speaker 3: something that you do with a carnival or whatever. And

3154
02:33:54,560 --> 02:33:57,800
Speaker 3: I respect you know that Joey has found, you know,

3155
02:33:57,920 --> 02:34:00,200
Speaker 3: whatever it is that enables him to do this kind

3156
02:34:00,240 --> 02:34:03,640
Speaker 3: of thing. But I'm repulsed by it. I'm grossed out

3157
02:34:03,720 --> 02:34:06,720
Speaker 3: by it. This is my Bobby Bonilla day. Yes, because

3158
02:34:06,760 --> 02:34:08,960
Speaker 3: this is the thing that gets talked about every year.

3159
02:34:09,879 --> 02:34:12,720
Speaker 3: It's talked about in the same way every year. Now,

3160
02:34:12,840 --> 02:34:15,360
Speaker 3: I give credit to Bernie, I'm not really including him

3161
02:34:15,400 --> 02:34:17,200
Speaker 3: in this because what he gave us in the last

3162
02:34:17,240 --> 02:34:19,879
Speaker 3: segment was gold in terms of just giving us information

3163
02:34:20,560 --> 02:34:23,680
Speaker 3: about all of this. But this, to me is just

3164
02:34:24,800 --> 02:34:29,880
Speaker 3: bottom of the barrel content, bottom of the barrel entertainment.

3165
02:34:30,120 --> 02:34:32,200
Speaker 3: This is the kind of thing that our country, our

3166
02:34:32,240 --> 02:34:34,040
Speaker 3: country should be known for better than this.

3167
02:34:34,240 --> 02:34:37,280
Speaker 4: Quite frankly, I'll just say, like, I just find the

3168
02:34:37,280 --> 02:34:38,200
Speaker 4: whole thing repulsing.

3169
02:34:38,360 --> 02:34:41,560
Speaker 2: Like I just the bread in the water and like

3170
02:34:42,200 --> 02:34:46,160
Speaker 2: clumps off wet, wet bread dripping down people's faces.

3171
02:34:47,160 --> 02:34:47,960
Speaker 4: I will pass.

3172
02:34:48,160 --> 02:34:50,840
Speaker 2: I will congratulate Joey Chestnut because I'll say this, I

3173
02:34:50,920 --> 02:34:53,320
Speaker 2: did watch that documentary on him, which is weird because

3174
02:34:53,320 --> 02:34:55,840
Speaker 2: I watch the documentary even though I find the event

3175
02:34:55,920 --> 02:34:59,360
Speaker 2: itself repulsing. That dude's a real athlete, Like he works out,

3176
02:34:59,800 --> 02:35:02,400
Speaker 2: he works his neck because of this and whatever, So

3177
02:35:02,720 --> 02:35:05,000
Speaker 2: he's a real athlet. I give him credit, But I

3178
02:35:05,120 --> 02:35:08,320
Speaker 2: will not be watching Pat. Will you be watching July fourth?

3179
02:35:08,400 --> 02:35:09,600
Speaker 2: The hot dog eating contest?

3180
02:35:09,800 --> 02:35:10,120
Speaker 3: You know what?

3181
02:35:10,240 --> 02:35:14,000
Speaker 11: Aaron and Jason, I definitely will not be watching hot

3182
02:35:14,040 --> 02:35:16,800
Speaker 11: dog he I will not be watching the hot dog

3183
02:35:16,879 --> 02:35:18,560
Speaker 11: eating Contest because are.

3184
02:35:18,480 --> 02:35:20,680
Speaker 4: You vegetarian or no? No, I'm a no, I'm a

3185
02:35:20,800 --> 02:35:22,720
Speaker 4: big I love love meat.

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Speaker 11: It's just I'm gonna go kind of jump with you guys,

3187
02:35:25,760 --> 02:35:28,360
Speaker 11: like it's kind of discussing a lot of water and

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02:35:28,560 --> 02:35:30,640
Speaker 11: bread and then you know some people, you know, blowing

3189
02:35:30,760 --> 02:35:35,000
Speaker 11: chunks here and there too. It happens, it does happen. Uh,

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02:35:35,200 --> 02:35:37,040
Speaker 11: And then I'll even give you guys a little hot take.

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02:35:37,280 --> 02:35:41,520
Speaker 11: I don't even like hot dogs, so yeah, so I'm like, yeah,

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02:35:41,560 --> 02:35:42,960
Speaker 11: why would I want to watch something I don't like?

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02:35:43,000 --> 02:35:45,760
Speaker 11: If it was pizza or pasta, I'd be a little

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02:35:45,800 --> 02:35:46,480
Speaker 11: more inclined.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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02:35:46,920 --> 02:35:47,760
Speaker 11: It's kind of messy though.

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02:35:47,760 --> 02:35:49,000
Speaker 4: I ever talked to Joey Chestnut.

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Speaker 2: I'll see if he's doing any pizza eating contests and

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02:35:51,959 --> 02:35:53,960
Speaker 2: we'll get you tuned in, please do, Chris, will you

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02:35:54,040 --> 02:35:56,560
Speaker 2: be watching the Hot dog Eating Contest?

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02:35:57,440 --> 02:35:59,280
Speaker 13: Let's see. There's a few factors going on here. A

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02:35:59,360 --> 02:36:01,120
Speaker 13: number one, I think I working on the fourth. But

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02:36:01,200 --> 02:36:04,240
Speaker 13: it's also so it'll be on in every TV on

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02:36:04,320 --> 02:36:07,280
Speaker 13: the student nothing maybe, but it's like eight to ten

3205
02:36:07,520 --> 02:36:10,720
Speaker 13: am Pacific time. So I'm not getting in until like

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02:36:10,959 --> 02:36:13,440
Speaker 13: eleven or so, so I'll probably sleep in and miss it.

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02:36:15,240 --> 02:36:17,360
Speaker 13: It doesn't bother me as much, mostly because I have

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02:36:17,480 --> 02:36:20,480
Speaker 13: a mostly iron stomach for seeing that kind of stuff.

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02:36:20,520 --> 02:36:22,680
Speaker 13: I don't get grossed out by it. But I'm kind

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02:36:22,680 --> 02:36:24,680
Speaker 13: of with Patrick in that I'm not really a big

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02:36:24,840 --> 02:36:29,160
Speaker 13: fan of hot dogs. It's basically leftover meats. It's not

3212
02:36:29,840 --> 02:36:32,200
Speaker 13: like you can get me on a broadwurst or like

3213
02:36:32,320 --> 02:36:35,840
Speaker 13: any kind of proper sausage. But a hot dog is

3214
02:36:35,959 --> 02:36:38,560
Speaker 13: just kind of the refuse everything that's really not that good.

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02:36:38,640 --> 02:36:40,880
Speaker 13: I think the only thing where my mind change is

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02:36:40,920 --> 02:36:44,040
Speaker 13: apparently at Albertson's, one of the grocery stores around here.

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02:36:44,120 --> 02:36:47,160
Speaker 13: They have like hot dogs made out of Texas brisket

3218
02:36:47,280 --> 02:36:50,320
Speaker 13: that sounds really good, But every other hot like just

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02:36:50,640 --> 02:36:54,280
Speaker 13: a b franc that's not that really appetizing. Like when

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02:36:54,320 --> 02:36:56,360
Speaker 13: you go to a baseball game, will you just grab

3221
02:36:56,520 --> 02:36:59,240
Speaker 13: like a fourteen dollars Dodger dog. I just I'd rather

3222
02:36:59,360 --> 02:37:01,560
Speaker 13: just get some pop corn or some fries or something.

3223
02:37:01,720 --> 02:37:05,120
Speaker 13: But what if you're like really hungry, though? Then they

3224
02:37:05,200 --> 02:37:07,600
Speaker 13: have other stuff on the menus these days. I remember,

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02:37:07,640 --> 02:37:09,560
Speaker 13: I think I went to the Braves game way back

3226
02:37:09,640 --> 02:37:12,400
Speaker 13: and they had the what's that they had like a

3227
02:37:12,600 --> 02:37:15,800
Speaker 13: sandwich inspired by Chipper Jones or something at Turner Field,

3228
02:37:16,040 --> 02:37:19,920
Speaker 13: like every ballparks got their special food item to the

3229
02:37:19,959 --> 02:37:21,480
Speaker 13: point where it's like, I don't really need to go

3230
02:37:21,600 --> 02:37:23,119
Speaker 13: get a hot dog and I've had a Dodger dog

3231
02:37:23,200 --> 02:37:24,920
Speaker 13: before and I was very disappointed when they just handed

3232
02:37:24,959 --> 02:37:28,160
Speaker 13: me a long hot dog in like foil and it's like, here,

3233
02:37:28,240 --> 02:37:29,920
Speaker 13: go put your stuff on. I'm like, this is it.

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02:37:30,520 --> 02:37:32,959
Speaker 2: I will say for people who've never been at Dodger Stadium,

3235
02:37:33,080 --> 02:37:36,800
Speaker 2: it is an iconic venue, amazing place. Dodger dogs are

3236
02:37:36,879 --> 02:37:39,280
Speaker 2: just like literally the cheapest hot dog that you could

3237
02:37:39,320 --> 02:37:41,360
Speaker 2: possibly find, and they're like, oh yeah, eighteen dollars.

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02:37:41,440 --> 02:37:43,480
Speaker 13: Fine, I'm shocked. Doesn't get more love around here. But

3239
02:37:43,560 --> 02:37:46,920
Speaker 13: outside USC, outside the coliseum during USC games, usually the

3240
02:37:46,959 --> 02:37:49,760
Speaker 13: street vendors will come around with the bacon wrapped hot dogs.

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02:37:49,760 --> 02:37:51,800
Speaker 13: I believe where you can get half a halapaenu on

3242
02:37:51,840 --> 02:37:54,040
Speaker 13: the side with it. Now that I will go for it.

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02:37:54,120 --> 02:37:56,000
Speaker 13: That's good. That is some good eating right there. I'm

3244
02:37:56,040 --> 02:37:57,800
Speaker 13: trying to remember I had one of those not that

3245
02:37:58,000 --> 02:37:59,760
Speaker 13: long ago at some event. I can't remember what it

3246
02:37:59,879 --> 02:38:02,000
Speaker 13: was so pat When you're at a Dodgers game, I

3247
02:38:02,000 --> 02:38:03,720
Speaker 13: don't know, you don't. I know, you just went to

3248
02:38:03,760 --> 02:38:05,080
Speaker 13: your first Lakers games. So I don't know how many

3249
02:38:05,120 --> 02:38:07,720
Speaker 13: Dodgers games you've been to, but a lot. Okay, okay,

3250
02:38:07,800 --> 02:38:10,360
Speaker 13: a lot. Yeah, so you're gonna get a Dodger dog

3251
02:38:10,360 --> 02:38:10,880
Speaker 13: while you're there?

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02:38:11,360 --> 02:38:12,600
Speaker 3: No, No, I will wow.

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02:38:13,200 --> 02:38:15,640
Speaker 11: No, I do not like the hot dogs. I've had

3254
02:38:15,680 --> 02:38:17,560
Speaker 11: a Dodger dog before. I can at least say i've

3255
02:38:17,640 --> 02:38:21,600
Speaker 11: had it. It was to me, very mid, very just meh.

3256
02:38:22,000 --> 02:38:24,840
Speaker 11: But again, I'm not a hot dog guy. Anyways. What

3257
02:38:24,959 --> 02:38:27,560
Speaker 11: I do go and get guys is either I'll get

3258
02:38:27,640 --> 02:38:30,440
Speaker 11: like just their pizza, which you know satisfies a little bit,

3259
02:38:30,920 --> 02:38:34,200
Speaker 11: or if I'm really feeling it and just really really hungry,

3260
02:38:34,320 --> 02:38:38,280
Speaker 11: Dodger Nacho's always always, you know, slap pretty hard.

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02:38:38,720 --> 02:38:40,160
Speaker 4: First of all, that was very gen z of you,

3262
02:38:40,360 --> 02:38:41,120
Speaker 4: mid Yeah.

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02:38:41,520 --> 02:38:42,960
Speaker 3: I caught that too.

3264
02:38:44,200 --> 02:38:45,960
Speaker 2: That's a little out of my age range. I don't

3265
02:38:45,959 --> 02:38:48,560
Speaker 2: know if I could pull that off. But all right,

3266
02:38:48,600 --> 02:38:50,320
Speaker 2: what do you got going on for the fourth of July, Jason,

3267
02:38:50,320 --> 02:38:50,960
Speaker 2: anything exciting?

3268
02:38:51,920 --> 02:38:53,800
Speaker 3: Like I told you earlier, I think it might be

3269
02:38:54,000 --> 02:38:57,760
Speaker 3: my daughter's first trip inside a swimming pool where she's

3270
02:38:57,879 --> 02:39:00,320
Speaker 3: not against her will. Like we actually did put her

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02:39:00,400 --> 02:39:02,440
Speaker 3: in once, but it did not go well. She just

3272
02:39:02,560 --> 02:39:04,840
Speaker 3: kind of wouldn't move and just kind of ducked her head.

3273
02:39:04,879 --> 02:39:08,080
Speaker 3: But she's been saying pool and you know, she's starting

3274
02:39:08,080 --> 02:39:10,480
Speaker 3: to say words. Obviously, she's saying more every day, and

3275
02:39:10,600 --> 02:39:13,800
Speaker 3: so I think that's gonna be fun. And outside of that,

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02:39:14,120 --> 02:39:17,200
Speaker 3: I think for the most part, it's kinda take it easy.

3277
02:39:18,480 --> 02:39:20,600
Speaker 3: You get to a certain age, you don't you kind

3278
02:39:20,640 --> 02:39:23,880
Speaker 3: of take these opportunities not to do things as opposed

3279
02:39:23,920 --> 02:39:25,119
Speaker 3: to doing too many things.

3280
02:39:25,360 --> 02:39:27,760
Speaker 2: I don't want to complain because my life is good.

3281
02:39:28,440 --> 02:39:31,080
Speaker 2: My wife has to go into the office on Monday. Like,

3282
02:39:31,240 --> 02:39:33,520
Speaker 2: I'm very grateful we both have jobs. Like, you know,

3283
02:39:33,640 --> 02:39:35,439
Speaker 2: I know there's a lot of people out there struggling.

3284
02:39:35,959 --> 02:39:38,040
Speaker 2: I was like blown away. She's like, oh yeah, no,

3285
02:39:38,040 --> 02:39:40,000
Speaker 2: I gotta go into like seven am on Monday. I'm

3286
02:39:40,080 --> 02:39:42,920
Speaker 2: like really, like I thought, just I just thought everybody,

3287
02:39:43,240 --> 02:39:46,240
Speaker 2: you know, not people in our business or whatever, but

3288
02:39:46,400 --> 02:39:48,440
Speaker 2: so I thought everybody just had like a four day weekend.

3289
02:39:48,959 --> 02:39:51,840
Speaker 2: So we're gonna probably lay low myself because of the

3290
02:39:51,920 --> 02:39:56,000
Speaker 2: fact that again she'll be working all day Monday, all

3291
02:39:56,040 --> 02:39:58,280
Speaker 2: day Wednesday. I'm working a ton this week as well, but.

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02:39:58,680 --> 02:40:00,560
Speaker 4: I was just like shocked. I did not know that, Pat,

3293
02:40:00,600 --> 02:40:02,760
Speaker 4: are you working on on July fourth?

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02:40:03,120 --> 02:40:03,520
Speaker 3: I will be.

3295
02:40:03,600 --> 02:40:06,680
Speaker 11: I will be doing the Ben Mallor Show for the

3296
02:40:07,640 --> 02:40:09,959
Speaker 11: Monday into Tuesday, starting into the fourth.

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02:40:09,840 --> 02:40:11,320
Speaker 4: So you got all day Tuesday off. What are you

3298
02:40:11,320 --> 02:40:11,600
Speaker 4: gonna do?

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02:40:11,640 --> 02:40:14,680
Speaker 11: I think I'm gonna be having you know, cooking out

3300
02:40:14,840 --> 02:40:16,680
Speaker 11: hot dogs? Yes, no, not hot dogs. Are gonna be

3301
02:40:16,720 --> 02:40:18,520
Speaker 11: cooking out with the family, go to the pool a

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02:40:18,520 --> 02:40:19,520
Speaker 11: little bit, have some fun.

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02:40:19,840 --> 02:40:20,360
Speaker 4: Fantastic.

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Speaker 2: I want to thank both of you, the crew, Chris

3305
02:40:22,520 --> 02:40:25,360
Speaker 2: Purfet on the board, Pat, Steve de Seger for my

3306
02:40:25,440 --> 02:40:28,480
Speaker 2: partner Jason Martin, I'm Aaron Taurus. Make sure to download

3307
02:40:28,560 --> 02:40:32,640
Speaker 2: the podcast wherever you get podcasts available. Coming up next

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Speaker 3: Are you