Speaker 1: No, all right more, I figured for this episode. We
Speaker 1: just we just we get a much needed break. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and just io right over there, babyd what's up?
Speaker 2: How you feeling?
Speaker 3: I feel amazing.
Speaker 4: You look amazing, Thank you so much. It's a different
Speaker 4: glow to me, it is. I've been inspired.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I thought it was the light.
Speaker 2: No, it's not me.
Speaker 6: No, he didn't change the color on that light.
Speaker 3: But so, I mean it's natural, god given.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 6: See, baby looked good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, thank you? Rap god giving?
Speaker 3: Yeah, rap, god given.
Speaker 2: How y'all feeling, Man, how was y'all weekend? It was good?
Speaker 2: Did y'all watch the super Bowl? Most boring super Bowl
Speaker 2: at all time?
Speaker 6: Don't do that. See that's the problem.
Speaker 2: People can't say it's the most boring because then if
Speaker 2: it's a game where both teams score forty points and
Speaker 2: you're like, yo, nobody plays defense, And because it's a
Speaker 2: defensive super Bowl, people call it boring. No.
Speaker 6: I like super bowls when everyone scores forty points.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's how it's what I love that shit. That
Speaker 2: was a good game.
Speaker 6: It was with twenty nine to thirteen final score.
Speaker 1: When we can start there, that score doesn't reflect the
Speaker 1: ass whooping.
Speaker 2: That that happened to the new Pagero. It was.
Speaker 4: It was.
Speaker 1: It was an like if you saw that score and
Speaker 1: didn't see the game, you would think like, oh, okay,
Speaker 1: what if that was a royal ash?
Speaker 2: I feel like if it was five quarters though the
Speaker 2: pages are the one if it was five UK gave
Speaker 2: you that idea. He just started, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: he started. He didn't realize that towards the end of
Speaker 2: the fourth he was like, all right, niggas start warming up.
Speaker 2: At the end of the games went away just it's
Speaker 2: it's a little more intense the game, even though the
Speaker 2: NFL game is already fast. Though most players will say,
Speaker 2: you know, the Super Bowl, the game seems to be faster,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, because there's so much on
Speaker 2: the line. Players are more intense. Everybody's even on the field.
Speaker 2: Nobody cares about next week.
Speaker 6: No, I hear you. There's definitely Super Bowl jitters.
Speaker 1: But when you're left tackle and left guard decided not
Speaker 1: to show up to the game, I don't care how nervous.
Speaker 6: They're not nervous.
Speaker 2: You the offensive line, y'all could offive line. Yall could
Speaker 2: have stayed on the bus with that I don't y'all
Speaker 2: didn't give Drake made a chance back there to do anything.
Speaker 2: How many times you got sacked?
Speaker 6: Every every time? Ten something like that. Every time they
Speaker 6: hiked the ball, they were in his face.
Speaker 2: Oh man, shout outs to the Seattle Seahawks though for
Speaker 2: winning the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then made a good point. Sorry to cut
Speaker 1: you off there, And I just made a good point
Speaker 1: with their defense. They had like the least nationally syndicated games,
Speaker 1: myself included. I don't think the world knew how good
Speaker 1: Seattle's defense was.
Speaker 6: No.
Speaker 2: I mean, well, people that watched the NFO all year,
Speaker 2: they knew exactly how this was the number two offense
Speaker 2: in the league versus the number one defense. So the
Speaker 2: number one defense showed up on the biggest night they did.
Speaker 1: Listen, Man, that I was arguing my pops before that
Speaker 1: this doesn't even compare to the Richard Sermon years lead
Speaker 1: you to doom this and that. I don't know, Man,
Speaker 1: might been the best defense performance I've ever seen in
Speaker 1: Super Bowl history.
Speaker 6: But that's up there was that's like Raisings.
Speaker 2: Type shit, like I don't the Patriots just that that Listen,
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. I don't want to take nothing
Speaker 2: away from the Seahawks defense, right because obviously they are
Speaker 2: number one defense for a reason. But the Patriots offensive
Speaker 2: line Man I and.
Speaker 1: Then Vrabels Aaron shit out with nine minutes left in
Speaker 1: the fourth like it was a terribly coached game, no
Speaker 1: halftime adjustice. I was like, you know what Brady was
Speaker 1: gonna get in his Belichick bag.
Speaker 6: They'll be all right. They came out, same game plan. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I thought they were gonna sneak Brady and Drake Maysy
Speaker 2: uniform at halftime because they kind of built the same
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, built the same kind of
Speaker 2: you know, if you put the Brady in the jersey,
Speaker 2: keep the helmet out, you wouldn't know that's that's Brady
Speaker 2: out there. Once he started throwing thathit down the field,
Speaker 2: you can be like, I don't know, something looks something
Speaker 2: looks different quarterback. The Seahawks played so fucking good. I
Speaker 2: was like, maybe the punter should get MVP.
Speaker 6: Yeah it was bad, man, it was bad from start
Speaker 6: to finish.
Speaker 2: But shout out to the new the New England Patriots
Speaker 2: for getting there.
Speaker 6: I think Drake made and the Patriots will be back yeah, yeah,
Speaker 6: I was young. I still like him.
Speaker 2: I still like Drake May. I think they'll make some
Speaker 2: adjustments this season. But take nothing away from Seattle Seahawks.
Speaker 2: They came to do what they needed to do. They
Speaker 2: took care of business. Shout out to the twelves. Yeah, man,
Speaker 2: and you know it was it was a good game.
Speaker 6: I enjoyed it.
Speaker 2: I thought I thought that the Patriots had a chance
Speaker 2: when it was still like twenty two, when they when
Speaker 2: they when they caught that that uh that sack that
Speaker 2: turned into a pick six.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that was. That was That's when you know it
Speaker 6: was at that point.
Speaker 2: But shout out to Seattle Seahawks on redeeming redemption. This
Speaker 2: was their redemption super Bowl against the Patriots.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean the Patriots threw themselves. When Malcolm Butler
Speaker 1: showed up before the game to ring the bell, yeah,
Speaker 1: like that pissed off the whole like Pacific Coast.
Speaker 6: Yeah, why could you do that, Malcolm Butler?
Speaker 2: And it felt like a home game for the Seahawks
Speaker 2: clost proximity being in San Francisco to Seattle, so they.
Speaker 6: Felt like they was at home.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean, yeah, it was a very boring
Speaker 1: Super Bowl but I still I still enjoyed the game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, still had moments, still had still had a good
Speaker 2: time watching the game. While still with a few of
Speaker 2: my friends, we went to a zero Bond Okay, okay,
Speaker 2: it was at zero bon watching the game. It was cool,
Speaker 2: cool little vibes. We had the whole Super Bowl vibe
Speaker 2: in there. It was cool. It was a cool night.
Speaker 6: Excuse me, Yeah, I was at the crib Zero Bonds.
Speaker 4: Yeah please, no no bottoms at all, Zero ban say.
Speaker 1: It still the same zero ban But speaking of people
Speaker 1: showing up, green Day did what they were supposed to do.
Speaker 1: Absolutely did their job opening up the super Bowl.
Speaker 2: It's always good to see Like some of my favorite
Speaker 2: like I love TRL bands, green Day came out. It
Speaker 2: was just like, oh man, this is this is like
Speaker 2: nostalgia nostalgia. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you don't like Green Day, you're like the
Speaker 1: type people that like hate Forrest.
Speaker 2: Gump or like just just you gotta love green Nobody
Speaker 2: pays Green Day.
Speaker 3: I'm sure there's someone out there hates.
Speaker 2: If you hate Green Day, don't want to be around
Speaker 2: the person you just hate life Like green Day is.
Speaker 6: Just the energy is just like fun.
Speaker 2: It's like, you know, let's just have a good time,
Speaker 2: like nobody's trying to be too cool. It's a green day.
Speaker 2: You gotta have a good time and rock out the
Speaker 2: Green Day. Yeah, yeah, No, for sure. Coco Jones did
Speaker 2: amazing as well. I like the beginning of shout out
Speaker 2: to Coco Jones paid homage to the great late Whitney Houston.
Speaker 6: Coco did what she had to do. You know, how
Speaker 6: are you?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know how we feel about Coco, like Coco
Speaker 2: is one of them. I know.
Speaker 1: After the second quarter hit hit zero zero zero, I know,
Speaker 1: I know you turned to the turning point, uh make
Speaker 1: America great again halftime show?
Speaker 6: So the marriage Do you want to cover the bad Bunny.
Speaker 2: Thing with me? Because I think we were the only
Speaker 2: ones that watched, and we're gonna get to Kid Rock
Speaker 2: Bob with the bo the bang.
Speaker 6: I'm sure. I'm sure Kid Rock did his thing as well.
Speaker 2: I think you think I tuned in Tournament US A
Speaker 2: halftime show. You think that's what I did all Americans?
Speaker 4: I think I was like, Yo, switch it over, care Rock,
Speaker 4: switch it over care Rock.
Speaker 2: You though, that's what I yelled out at halftime. No, yeah,
Speaker 2: I promise you I did not did not watch it.
Speaker 1: Well, Yeah, for those that don't know. For some reason,
Speaker 1: Bad Bunny performed and it's so odd that the last
Speaker 1: two years have just like divided. It's a fucking halftime show.
Speaker 1: It'supposed to be for entertainment. Yeah, why is this dividing
Speaker 1: the world? I didn't understand the fucking word he said either.
Speaker 1: But I like this set design and it was a
Speaker 1: great performance.
Speaker 6: It was like four minutes of my life.
Speaker 2: It really wasn't well game changing for me before of
Speaker 2: the world the way they're trying to do for both sides.
Speaker 1: But I enjoyed the Bad Bunny performance. It's someone that
Speaker 1: doesn't typically listen to his music very often. I thought
Speaker 1: he covered all basis for people that don't listen to
Speaker 1: his music.
Speaker 6: Like it was entertaining to watch. The set design was incredible.
Speaker 1: I like the Telephone poleshit and that's really as much
Speaker 1: as I have on it. Like it was cool, just cool.
Speaker 1: It was a great performance. Oh, don't try to foot now.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna see you found in real white right now.
Speaker 4: I don't know you've been doing it.
Speaker 1: I'd be the white person that never listened to Bad
Speaker 1: Bunny and now thinks he's the greatest artists of all time?
Speaker 1: Should be that white person and lie to you. I
Speaker 1: like this, like, should I be that guy?
Speaker 2: Should I be? Honestly, yesterday I didn't now go you
Speaker 2: know what, he's my favorite pop star of all time? Yeah, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: nobody the cool it's crazy? All right? It was cool,
Speaker 2: that's what you said. It was okay this way. Why
Speaker 2: are you putting negative to cool? Right?
Speaker 1: I thought it was incredible set design. It was agreed,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure for the people that really listen to
Speaker 1: his music and love his music, which is a huge
Speaker 1: group of people, it was even better. But I was
Speaker 1: focused on the bushes moving and shit. I thought that
Speaker 1: was whoever put the set together is incredible.
Speaker 6: I love the deli.
Speaker 2: Shit found a way to shout out. I love you
Speaker 2: just found a way to shout out the bushes. I
Speaker 2: really like when they were cutting sugar cane. That's what
Speaker 2: you want me to say?
Speaker 6: Huh, Let me say this.
Speaker 2: I do understand how some people would be kind of
Speaker 2: upset at bad.
Speaker 6: Bunny performing, So just see to me, that's weird.
Speaker 2: No, I do understand it because it's like, you know,
Speaker 2: if they this is quote unquote you know American football
Speaker 2: some people saw a lot of the players, they interviewed
Speaker 2: them before the game. Never heard of Bad Bunny, never
Speaker 2: heard of his music. But we understand why Bad Bunny
Speaker 2: was hired. It's it's to get, you know, the people
Speaker 2: to tune in around the world. It's the Latin one
Speaker 2: of the biggest, if not the biggest Latin artists in
Speaker 2: the world, which means a lot of people from other
Speaker 2: Latin countries will tune into the halftime show. It's all
Speaker 2: about ratings, It's all about getting people to watch have
Speaker 2: time show. Bad Bunny is an incredible artist. You know,
Speaker 2: there's nothing He's an incredible performer. We know all of
Speaker 2: these things about Bad Bunny. Me personally, I loved it,
Speaker 2: but again, I'm from the Bronx, I'm Puerto Rican as
Speaker 2: part of who I am like I you know, I
Speaker 2: enjoyed it.
Speaker 6: I enjoy Bad Bunny. I understand his music.
Speaker 2: I may understand what he's saying, but the music is
Speaker 2: I understand the emotion of feeling the behind his music.
Speaker 6: So I was not mad at Bad Money.
Speaker 2: But to be fair, I do understand how some people
Speaker 2: that you know, watch football and don't know who Bad
Speaker 2: Bunny is, or people that was at the super Bowl
Speaker 2: and don't know who bad Money is. I could understand
Speaker 2: how they was like, damn Dold, we don't even know
Speaker 2: what he's saying. We've never heard of him, never heard
Speaker 2: his music. I can understand. You can't please everybody, but
Speaker 2: we know that the halftime show is about getting viewership,
Speaker 2: getting the people to tune in. It's all about Spot
Speaker 2: getting money for the sponsorships and all of that, and
Speaker 2: who else to do it other than which I thought.
Speaker 2: I haven't seen the numbers, but I'm pretty sure it's
Speaker 2: probably the most.
Speaker 6: It's gonna be the biggest artists it has. It has
Speaker 6: to be.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's the American football ball. I know you're
Speaker 1: not saying that, and I see you're saying that. If
Speaker 1: these bad this is the list of people that are
Speaker 1: not started from America. The selfiees I told you he
Speaker 1: was gonna do. My ship started with my ship.
Speaker 4: Listen to yo when you when I found out that
Speaker 4: that song was about being a whore, I was like, Yo,
Speaker 4: that's why that ship hate, That's why I touch your
Speaker 4: soul right.
Speaker 2: To your nigga listen here.
Speaker 4: Okay, cool, I'm not This is not an attack, baby,
Speaker 4: this is me recognizing why I got so many girlfriends.
Speaker 4: It's like I got a lot of them, Auntie, I
Speaker 4: got a lot of them.
Speaker 2: I can't. Yeah, listen to listen to your home, bro,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna break your heart.
Speaker 3: Listen to your home.
Speaker 2: I understand, but I do understand.
Speaker 1: So funny why most of those people were like, he
Speaker 1: doesn't speak English, we want to hear it, but then
Speaker 1: also say he talks about sex, so he shouldn't be there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, man, which one is it? You do
Speaker 1: not understand him or you understand that he's talking about sex?
Speaker 2: Is one?
Speaker 6: Mic, I don't get it.
Speaker 2: I understand, but I understand how some people, you know,
Speaker 2: die hard football fans that go bad.
Speaker 1: I get how they are, okay, but not American super
Speaker 1: Bowl halftime performers Phil Collins and Rick ka Iglacia's YouTube
Speaker 1: Shania Twaine. They stay English though, Okay, but you said
Speaker 1: it's American football.
Speaker 6: You want an American there? Okay, Well, at.
Speaker 2: Least people in the audience, because if Shakira watched those
Speaker 2: that didn't know Shakira also sings in English as well.
Speaker 1: The Weekend anytimes anytime they start talking in that that Scarborough,
Speaker 1: Toronto's slaying.
Speaker 6: I don't know what the fuck they'd be talking about.
Speaker 6: It's still English.
Speaker 2: My thing is this is this is my thing. This
Speaker 2: is that.
Speaker 4: That one criticism I will take, not that bad Bunny
Speaker 4: shouldn't have performed, But when I was watching it, when
Speaker 4: I was watching it with my father, the one thing
Speaker 4: he said was, Hey, I would really like if they
Speaker 4: had subtitles up here. And I can understand people who
Speaker 4: have that complaint that they wanted they would have wanted
Speaker 4: subtitles for what to translate what he was saying. I
Speaker 4: feel like that was a miss on productions part.
Speaker 2: But but I don't know.
Speaker 1: I guess I'd have to like watch that on YouTube
Speaker 1: or something just to see what if that translates. I've
Speaker 1: never like read subtitles to a song before, like a
Speaker 1: movie I have, that would be hard to keep up.
Speaker 1: I feel like, and like the way especially I'm sure
Speaker 1: he speaks in a dialect that may not translate the
Speaker 1: same way to English with what he's doing, so like he.
Speaker 4: Speaks Puerto Rican slang. Yeah, but so it would be
Speaker 4: so tough to but it would have helped.
Speaker 1: They could have tried, Like even if you print it
Speaker 1: out like vibes car tell lyrics, it'd be very confusing
Speaker 1: to try to translate them into English, and that is
Speaker 1: broken English. Yeah, so I just don't know if I
Speaker 1: hear them. But I don't know if keep up with
Speaker 1: the shit, I know, I wouldn't be able.
Speaker 4: To I had a ball. But I also have to
Speaker 4: realize because I'm just sitting up there. Like when I
Speaker 4: was talking to my friends who don't live in New
Speaker 4: York City, I'm like, how are y'all not excited about BENEATHO?
Speaker 3: And then I remember that I live in New York City.
Speaker 4: So I hear Bad Bundy without even playing him on
Speaker 4: my phone, Like, if you outside, you're gonna hear bad Buddy.
Speaker 3: And a lot of people just don't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, people don't listen to listen. We get it because
Speaker 2: we where we're from. You know where I grew up.
Speaker 2: I mean, I understand it. It's part of my culture.
Speaker 2: But I can also understand being faired on the other side,
Speaker 2: people from the South, people from the West coast that
Speaker 2: you know, people from you know, up way up, No,
Speaker 2: they don't. They just that's just not their thing. They
Speaker 2: don't know about Bad Bunny like that. So I understand it.
Speaker 2: People from the Midwest. I understand that that's not part
Speaker 2: of They don't list they've never heard of bad bunny
Speaker 2: songs as much as we do because we go out
Speaker 2: and move around in New York. Some of these songs,
Speaker 2: even though we don't know what he's saying, we know
Speaker 2: the song. That's our shit, you know what I'm saying. So,
Speaker 2: but I understand how some people were like, damn, could
Speaker 2: we get something that we can understand so we can
Speaker 2: feel like we're included and we're a part of it.
Speaker 2: But again, we understand what the super Bowl halftime show
Speaker 2: is about. It's not so much about the people that's
Speaker 2: at the game. It's most about the people tuning in.
Speaker 1: And but even the people at the game, I mean,
Speaker 1: obviously this year they were with Erka Kirk. But it's
Speaker 1: not the good old boys going to the super Bowl,
Speaker 1: like you have to have a lot of money. It's
Speaker 1: a lot of connections. Like it's not like the good
Speaker 1: old Americans that are at the road Tide games that
Speaker 1: are going to the super Bowl like that, that's not
Speaker 1: really the crowd.
Speaker 4: And like, even so, who do you think is up
Speaker 4: the fool rich people? It's not all just rich people,
Speaker 4: but a lot of rich people.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you think it was a lot of Puerto Ricans there,
Speaker 6: I don't. I don't think all Puerto Ricans are pormo.
Speaker 2: No, I don't keep in. Do you think a lot
Speaker 2: of Puerto Ricans with it? I don't know.
Speaker 1: I I'm sure a lot of Puerto Ricans went because
Speaker 1: of Bad Bunny, But I mean even that. You say that, though,
Speaker 1: but you isolate a whole, huge demographic of NFL fans
Speaker 1: when you have the whole there in twenty ten.
Speaker 6: Yeah, like so, I hear what you're saying. But that happens.
Speaker 6: That's gonna happen no matter what, because football is so popular.
Speaker 2: Listen, if Real Madrid was in the Championship, I mean
Speaker 2: for their Premier league, that Bunny should do the couinting
Speaker 2: usher came out and performing.
Speaker 6: We don't think people over there like who the fuck
Speaker 6: is this? It would be the same thing.
Speaker 2: We know.
Speaker 6: I sure would be a strange choice for the Real
Speaker 6: Madrid game.
Speaker 2: Some people feel like Bad Bunny it was a strange
Speaker 2: choice for the Super Bowl. That's all I'm saying. No
Speaker 2: matter where you're from in the New World, if if
Speaker 2: an artist is not performing in your language of the country,
Speaker 2: like people are you can understand how people can be
Speaker 2: like yo, fam, we don't even understand what this artist
Speaker 2: are saying. Again, I loved it because that's part of
Speaker 2: my culture. So you got me there.
Speaker 6: I love I think Bad Bunny is amazing.
Speaker 2: I think his even if you don't understand what he's saying,
Speaker 2: just looking at that performance and then understanding the attention
Speaker 2: of detail, you know, having you know the lady who's
Speaker 2: one of her last, she's one of the last, like uh,
Speaker 2: Puerto Rican owned speakeasies or like bars, and I think
Speaker 2: in the city he had her there, had her address
Speaker 2: on it. This is you know how many you know
Speaker 2: how many people like it? That's gonna just pull up
Speaker 2: to be like yo, she was at it like because
Speaker 2: that's what it's about. For me, It's about the attention
Speaker 2: of detail. And I think that that's what Bad Bunny
Speaker 2: and his team did. They paid attention to every detail.
Speaker 2: It's very intentional. I thought the performance was dope.
Speaker 4: And like when when Rory wrote in our group chat
Speaker 4: and was joking around and was like, look at Bad
Speaker 4: Bunny showing a nuclear family that the Republicans like claim
Speaker 4: to live and but Puerto Ricans really do or that
Speaker 4: Spanish people really do and it's not you aren't joking,
Speaker 4: that's like, that's that ass like that's I love how
Speaker 4: he showcased their culture of like family, like the little
Speaker 4: boy laying on the chairs, yo, go to bed, get up,
Speaker 4: like that's you know what I'm saying, Like that's that culture.
Speaker 4: And I thought that that was so beautiful. The couple
Speaker 4: that really got married, I actually got married, was fire.
Speaker 4: That was That was amazing. And also I don't know
Speaker 4: why people don't know how to just enjoy music they
Speaker 4: don't have. You don't have to understand what's being said.
Speaker 4: You can just enjoy the feel of the music, enjoy
Speaker 4: the performance like I don't know, I've never known what
Speaker 4: bad bundy.
Speaker 2: A lot of people don't have rhythm though a lot
Speaker 2: of people don't have soul.
Speaker 3: I do not only care about lyrics, especially for music
Speaker 3: like that.
Speaker 4: I care about the I want to dances, were making
Speaker 4: dance of music.
Speaker 1: I want to say Spanish music is actually so because
Speaker 1: white people we bop our head to the lyrics, not
Speaker 1: the beat. That's like the difference besides the one and
Speaker 1: the three and two in the four, we try to
Speaker 1: dance to the to the cadence of the lyrics. That's
Speaker 1: why we be off beat sometimes because different pocket Spanish
Speaker 1: music does make it easier without rhythm to like, you know,
Speaker 1: bop your head.
Speaker 2: You would look crazy dancing anything bad Bunny is playing.
Speaker 1: You don't think I've been in the hookah spot dancing
Speaker 1: but looking crazy, nah, looking like he was about the robin.
Speaker 6: I used to I used to, I used to cut
Speaker 6: a rugged melody cut.
Speaker 2: And get up here. I'm a clap off. Hey it's selfie.
Speaker 2: So that's right there. That's more. You should have been
Speaker 2: watching Turning Point in USA. I can't.
Speaker 6: I can't just stand up.
Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no no see that ain't that
Speaker 2: ain't that an't beneath.
Speaker 6: It was doing last night?
Speaker 1: No, And now I see why you guys had a
Speaker 1: reaction when I said it was cool. So I agree
Speaker 1: with everything you guys said, down to the detail. I
Speaker 1: thought it was amazing in every part of that.
Speaker 6: It's just not music. I listened too often. That's that's
Speaker 6: really saying. I understand both sides.
Speaker 2: Like I said, if if if if ushould take his
Speaker 2: ass to Spain for their championship soccer game, there's gonna
Speaker 2: be a lot of people that's like, yo, who who
Speaker 2: is this man? Because we in America, so we feel
Speaker 2: like everybody's supposed to know how stars in the fucking run.
Speaker 6: They don't.
Speaker 2: I promise, I promise you they don't. Some of our
Speaker 2: biggest athletes. You go to London right now, like you know,
Speaker 2: Kevin Durant, they'd be like, you know who's that? You
Speaker 2: show people I'm talking about the biggest thought where I'm
Speaker 2: telling you they don't. London. I'm telling you they do not.
Speaker 2: Bro A lot of people that in London. A lot
Speaker 2: of people do not. I promise you would know who
Speaker 2: he is. Like if you had just a Nike AD
Speaker 2: and like no jersey or nothing with Katie just and
Speaker 2: some Nike shims, like who is that a lot of
Speaker 2: people from the UK would not know who that was.
Speaker 1: I can't confirm this, but I feel like Katie's probably
Speaker 1: had an AD in London before maybe fifteen.
Speaker 2: The NBA has games in London now, so there's a
Speaker 2: there's a there's people that follow I'm talking about in
Speaker 2: general soccer.
Speaker 6: I think there's places in your ice think London is
Speaker 6: so much like America.
Speaker 2: If I showed you a picture of the biggest soccer
Speaker 2: player in the world right now. You wouldn't even know
Speaker 2: who he was. You couldn't name him. He's a dadn't
Speaker 2: Siana Trump? You could name him, you couldn't name him.
Speaker 2: You couldn't. So that's what I'm saying to burn a
Speaker 2: ware you from in the world. I understand how people
Speaker 2: will feel away, like, listen, this is not really our culture. Yes,
Speaker 2: we have a huge Puerto Rican culture in New York City, Okay,
Speaker 2: other cities, but still it's a lot of people that
Speaker 2: they don't know nothing about bad but never heard him before.
Speaker 1: But a lot of Americans love soccer, Like, don't use me.
Speaker 1: I shouldn't be the rule to not knowing the biggest
Speaker 1: football soccer player. Like, there's plenty of people in America
Speaker 1: that are like diehards for soccer fans for sure, And
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's a lot of dieard NBA fans and
Speaker 1: in London.
Speaker 6: I don't know about die hard.
Speaker 1: And basketball got basketball got so international, Like even if
Speaker 1: you look at the league now, like they gentrified the
Speaker 1: fuck out of us. I feel like globally it's different
Speaker 1: with basketball.
Speaker 2: Now it's nice, it's still not They're still trying to
Speaker 2: push this growing but it's still not what you think
Speaker 2: it is.
Speaker 4: I'm happy that the we always talk about America being
Speaker 4: such a huge, like melting pot in America.
Speaker 6: Get there, because I see where you're going.
Speaker 2: I like that. I like that. Segue. I'm not segue
Speaker 2: and I was still talking about the super Bowl.
Speaker 4: I was talking about Yeah, it's a melting pot, and
Speaker 4: I'm happy that a large percentage of America got to
Speaker 4: see their star on the screen.
Speaker 6: It's a lot percentage of America got to see their star.
Speaker 4: Yes, there's a lot of Hispanic speaking people in our country,
Speaker 4: a lot of them, like a huge percentage of America.
Speaker 2: So it's not just like, oh, they're trying to get
Speaker 2: people from other All Mexicans love Bad Bunny just because
Speaker 2: they also Yeah, it's a little but I understand what
Speaker 2: you're saying though, a lot of people do love Bad Yeah,
Speaker 2: all right.
Speaker 6: I'm trying to make a progressive point in it actually
Speaker 6: being racist.
Speaker 2: It wasn't. It wasn't racist. Bad Bunny is the biggest
Speaker 2: Spanish speaking star in America.
Speaker 6: He's one of the biggest stars in America period.
Speaker 4: Okay, of course that's fine, But when you're talking about
Speaker 4: regular Americans might not know want maybe not knowing who
Speaker 4: he is. The Americans, where their first English, their first
Speaker 4: language is Spanish, they know who the fuck Bad Bunny is.
Speaker 2: He is their star.
Speaker 4: That's like, even if you don't like Beyonce, Beyonce is
Speaker 4: still your star. Like it's not you can't escape it.
Speaker 4: Y'all stepped on my point for no reason. What was
Speaker 4: y'all about to say?
Speaker 2: Like, I was just gonna say, we're back sponsored by
Speaker 2: Boost Mobile on under their talk text and data. That's
Speaker 2: all I was about to say, Baby diannadn't mean to
Speaker 2: cut you off. It's fine, but overall, shout out to
Speaker 2: Bad Bunny again. The production attention to detail everything was
Speaker 2: spot on again. But we knew that Bad Bunny is
Speaker 2: one of the greatest performers that we have, so we
Speaker 2: knew that he was going to do what he was supposed.
Speaker 6: To do well.
Speaker 1: I did see in English that Chris Brown commented in
Speaker 1: English because he could have could have gave y'all. He
Speaker 1: could have he could have gave y'all it's a very
Speaker 1: talented guy. Sure he could get one hundred translate somehow. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: And I'm sure Chris Brown has been around enough Spanish
Speaker 1: woman that he can pick up on a few words.
Speaker 2: They could a past his phone and one of them like, yo, listen,
Speaker 2: just one to just just to send that out for me.
Speaker 4: He did.
Speaker 6: He did post that looks like y'all needed me in
Speaker 6: so many words. All right, Can I say this? How
Speaker 6: we know he was talking about the Super Bowl show?
Speaker 2: We don't know. We can only the name of its
Speaker 2: tour was the Chris Brown Bowl. That's the only thing
Speaker 2: that I'm just crazy bowl. To be fair, I get it.
Speaker 2: I understand how people was like, yo, that's crazy. How
Speaker 2: he throwing shots at you know, bad bunnies, saying I
Speaker 2: see y'all needed me, like bad Bunny's performance was whack
Speaker 2: or whatever.
Speaker 6: Like you're doing the shota right now. This is dancing dancing.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, how do we know that he was
Speaker 2: talking about the Super Bowl halftime show? How do we
Speaker 2: know that?
Speaker 4: We don't know anything, but we're on this podcast, and
Speaker 4: we assume all day, every day, any other day, so.
Speaker 6: We just like kicking the shits. I'm not talking matter
Speaker 6: of factly, well, of course not.
Speaker 2: Because I Wasn't you ever talked matter of factly on
Speaker 2: this podcast? Oh give me ten more minutes I'm gonna
Speaker 2: talk matter of factly in ten minutes old.
Speaker 6: On, We're gonna run down.
Speaker 2: We're gonna run down a few more topics, and then
Speaker 2: I'm gonna talk matter of fact.
Speaker 1: He's gonna hit this go ahead, I can I can
Speaker 1: safely assume in these walls that Chris Brown posting that
Speaker 1: right after the Super Bowl halpen after I didn't see.
Speaker 1: I don't even think they got halfway through the third quarter. Okay,
Speaker 1: to do the Breezy Bowl, to do the Breezy Ball,
Speaker 1: which wee can safety.
Speaker 6: At put your case together.
Speaker 1: I was, I was at MetLife. He did it in
Speaker 1: a stadium where one could do a halftime. There's been
Speaker 1: a halftime show there as play football, and you called
Speaker 1: it Breezy Bowl because we can safely assume you have
Speaker 1: been snubbed for doing so, and you wanted to prove
Speaker 1: to the world that's why you do four hour shows
Speaker 1: a night for three hundred and sixty five days straight
Speaker 1: like a psychopath at the highest level of singing and dancing.
Speaker 1: Then Bad Bunny performs and then you tweet out instagram
Speaker 1: out whatever the fuck it was.
Speaker 2: Looks like y'all needed me. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's hmmm, do you think maybe it
Speaker 1: was a sub to some of his like inner family again, man,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm just I'm madd didn't say on Piru
Speaker 1: after that's like the only thing I thought.
Speaker 6: You put together a great case.
Speaker 2: The timing of it, everything that Chris has done in
Speaker 2: the last year with his own, you know, massive tour,
Speaker 2: and we speak to it every year. We say, because
Speaker 2: we're probably gonna throw some names and that right after
Speaker 2: we finished this about who we think is next. He's
Speaker 2: one of the ones that we say easily could do
Speaker 2: a Super Bowl. Halter basically has done his own I
Speaker 2: have time show on this tour. I can say after
Speaker 2: going to the tour, not that I had doubts or anything,
Speaker 2: but it was just like, yeah, he could, he could
Speaker 2: do that easily. It would be the easiest production set
Speaker 2: up of all time.
Speaker 6: He was flying around. That was literally easy. I just again,
Speaker 6: the timing of it.
Speaker 1: Then it was corny. Yeah, it was fucking corny. Like
Speaker 1: he didn't have Christian we love you, but you didn't
Speaker 1: have to do it like that. You didn't have to
Speaker 1: taking down that bunny for some ship. Like he put
Speaker 1: on a good performance, Yes, great performance.
Speaker 2: It looks like y'all needed me as shade right, that's
Speaker 2: what the girl say to that shaite.
Speaker 3: Nobody needed him. It was a great performance, Like, I don't,
Speaker 3: it was great.
Speaker 2: I'm with you.
Speaker 6: It was a great performance. I enjoyed it. If it
Speaker 6: was trash, I could like.
Speaker 1: Actively support Chris Brown in that, like you keep snubbing
Speaker 1: me for this bullshit. I could see if it was bad,
Speaker 1: but it was great, So I don't. It was unnecessary
Speaker 1: to me. Unnecessary is the word. That's the word I like.
Speaker 6: I like that word.
Speaker 2: I want to start using the correct words. It was unnecessary,
Speaker 2: like that's all if it was, if it was how
Speaker 2: he felt. We can't be mad at how Chris Brown feels.
Speaker 2: But it was just unnecessary. It was unnecessary. You could
Speaker 2: say that in the crib LIKEO they needed me because
Speaker 2: like I was, send that out.
Speaker 6: Now, we're in your business. You' putting us upright.
Speaker 2: You wanted us to talk about it. You wanted us
Speaker 2: to see what you see how you felt. You know,
Speaker 2: obviously Chris is a is a superstar, amazing performer, and
Speaker 2: will kill to have time show if he's ever given
Speaker 2: the opportunity to perform. We know that.
Speaker 6: But let's not take away from bad Bunny's moment.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think that's where the unnecessary part comes in.
Speaker 2: We kind of take away from his moment. You kind
Speaker 2: of diminish his moment and kind of throw shade on
Speaker 2: his moment again. Unnecessary. I just I just thought that
Speaker 2: was a little necessary from Chris. No.
Speaker 1: I agree, And I mean, if he's petty and ends
Speaker 1: up getting it next year, he should do the whole
Speaker 1: show in Spanish, just just to.
Speaker 6: Show the Lakers.
Speaker 2: You want to really show the level if you want
Speaker 2: to really turn the country understand you next year in Spanish.
Speaker 1: L Breezy Bowl, L Breezy L Chili Bowl, all righted
Speaker 1: by Chili El Chile.
Speaker 2: Chili Bowl.
Speaker 4: Get the fuck yeah myself, not breezy. It's not breezy,
Speaker 4: it's chilly. This country is going as ship. Just why
Speaker 4: do you say I say yo in Spanish?
Speaker 2: Huh? How do you say I say yo in Spanish?
Speaker 6: How do you say yo? I'm asking how you said
Speaker 6: how do I say yo?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 6: Here querto Rican yo?
Speaker 2: No I said you.
Speaker 6: I said yo? Yeah, he tho.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 6: Singing in the Chris Brown.
Speaker 2: Casey to yo. Oh jesus, oh my God, oh man,
Speaker 2: that's funny as fun We will get the commercial.
Speaker 6: Not ready for the chili bowl?
Speaker 2: Baby?
Speaker 6: Do youre not ready for the chili?
Speaker 2: God?
Speaker 3: I'm not.
Speaker 2: Is there already like the toasty this bowl or some
Speaker 2: ship now? But chili? You know, breezy chill, but you
Speaker 2: need no beating.
Speaker 1: Chili did Before we get into commercials, I do want
Speaker 1: to salute the loyal king twenty one savage doing what
Speaker 1: he needed to do, just trying to get home to
Speaker 1: his queen. I know what it's like when you moved
Speaker 1: in a room full of vultures and you're just trying
Speaker 1: to stay faithful and get back to your queen. Did
Speaker 1: sometimes you just got to lean up against the wall
Speaker 1: when the camera's coming. What he was walking out with
Speaker 1: Kendall Jenner and like a bunch of people, it didn't
Speaker 1: look suspicious, but he moved. He he wanted to make
Speaker 1: sure the cameras was he was not with that girl.
Speaker 2: He hugging the wall. Oh, that's how Isaiah walked past
Speaker 2: the bulls when the bulls beat the pistons. It's that
Speaker 2: same little he walked past Mike just like that.
Speaker 1: People say that, but they don't realize that he's smoking,
Speaker 1: and he's really just trying to hide the weed he has.
Speaker 1: I give him the credit, let's give him the faithful
Speaker 1: king credit, but he's really just trying to.
Speaker 2: Hide what he's spoken. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But with that said, good good man. And I saw
Speaker 1: your queen post a sub as well in a good way.
Speaker 2: My queen his queen.
Speaker 6: Oh whene, he made it home faithfully back to Yeah,
Speaker 6: come on, that's twenty one second.
Speaker 2: He's never gonna do that.
Speaker 6: He was at the SlutWalk. Yeah, nobody's more faithful than
Speaker 6: twenty one. He's a pretty loyal guy.
Speaker 2: If you do, like, if you go to a track record, Yeah,
Speaker 2: twenty one Savage, I'll try to pay him.
Speaker 6: Is a pretty loyal fucking person.
Speaker 2: Man, don't try to pay him like that. Come on, man,
Speaker 2: don't do twenty one like that. Not super Bowl son,
Speaker 2: They don't do.
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Speaker 1: Commercial wise. Fifty cent is the pettiest human being of
Speaker 1: all time.
Speaker 2: I shout out fifty man. I commend, I commend Ordan.
Speaker 4: He took your petty all the way to the super Bowl.
Speaker 4: He took his No matter what you say about fifty,
Speaker 4: he took his petty all the way.
Speaker 6: To the ball. You take my baby, mother, I'm taking
Speaker 6: it to the super Bowl, taking it to the super Bowl.
Speaker 6: When they go low, we go to the boat.
Speaker 4: I was good.
Speaker 6: We go to the Bowl.
Speaker 4: We don't take door Dash absolutely commend Dash giggling, and.
Speaker 1: I commend door Dash for letting that fly to Yeah,
Speaker 1: they leaned into it. They know, because even if that
Speaker 1: was scripted, not scripted, like even the way they shot
Speaker 1: it where it looked like it wasn't scripted and everyone
Speaker 1: was laughing, they smoked that commercial.
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure a lot of that was ad lib.
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure fifty ad lib a lot of that.
Speaker 2: You can't they didn't write that four years on. No,
Speaker 2: that was fifty months.
Speaker 1: The scheme at the end with the months to year,
Speaker 1: that's old fifty Like to me, that's that's guess who's
Speaker 1: back era of level metaphor, that's back when fifty could
Speaker 1: rap rap.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: For those that haven't seen it, it's fifty cent talking
Speaker 1: about door Dash and somehow twist that into how many
Speaker 1: months versus years and it just happens to add up
Speaker 1: to exactly what Puff was sentenced to. But who's counting?
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: I like it, pluck it. Take it to the bowl,
Speaker 2: fifty take it to the don't get that door dash
Speaker 2: bag be petty on the Super Bowl stage.
Speaker 4: It is what it is.
Speaker 2: This is what it is. I like it.
Speaker 4: I would to fight door Dash though, because I ordered
Speaker 4: wings stop. Okay, you're in it.
Speaker 2: I did order it. In the middle. It's like I
Speaker 2: ordered it after kickoff. It never came.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, maybe what I was that is a fucking
Speaker 6: me because.
Speaker 4: I was supposed to be cooking and then like mid
Speaker 4: cook I just got lazy as fucking I was like, man, i'
Speaker 4: about to order some wings and I just didn't.
Speaker 2: You got to make that decision like three hours before kickoff.
Speaker 2: But I was gonna say in January you got to
Speaker 2: make that decision January fifth. Yeah, you were supposed to
Speaker 2: know what you were doing on Super Bowl Sunday. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you can't call during the game. That was the sickest
Speaker 2: audible in the world. You just call right there.
Speaker 4: I know my beer came though I ordered beer through
Speaker 4: door Dash. My Blue Moons came, but.
Speaker 2: My wings never came. Wings never got this. They probably
Speaker 2: was sold out. I saw a video there was like
Speaker 2: a thousand, Like.
Speaker 6: Yeah, about to say, they probably sold They probably had
Speaker 6: no more wings. That's why they probably couldn't send it.
Speaker 4: But then they should have just canceled my order. Why
Speaker 4: ya can saying y'all preparing it.
Speaker 2: They were trying to send HOMEI to the store to
Speaker 2: get a bag of wing things. What I'm saying when
Speaker 2: wing things were sold out, they can't even get nothing
Speaker 2: to the supermarket. They had some turkey legs. You go,
Speaker 2: some turkey turkey legs would have showed up for show,
Speaker 2: some big ass turkey legs. They would have showed right up.
Speaker 2: They had from six Flags. They got turkey legs. Nobody
Speaker 2: want that on Super Bowl Sunday.
Speaker 6: We need turkey legs on super Bowl.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, now, have you smothered them bitches with
Speaker 2: some gravy.
Speaker 1: I love especially smothering one day is give it to me.
Speaker 1: But just ordering big ass, like medieval times turkey leg
Speaker 1: on the super Bowl. Then you're watching turning on it
Speaker 1: for sure. Why did you put Leelo and stitch? There
Speaker 1: was that like a message my son, I'm not some
Speaker 1: camera time. You didn't have to call him out.
Speaker 2: He's shy.
Speaker 6: Okay, is this a voodoo doll?
Speaker 2: No, it's not a voodoo dolls.
Speaker 6: I can't tell. Sometimes baby is Haitian or not, so
Speaker 6: I don't know.
Speaker 5: I am not.
Speaker 4: I'm not Haitian. I don't practice Haitian Tennessee. What the
Speaker 4: fuck does that even mean? That's racist?
Speaker 2: That is.
Speaker 4: I have Hatian tendencies. Your strongest, your strongest qualities, you're resilience,
Speaker 4: you I hate white people, how much you hate the
Speaker 4: French are such resilient people.
Speaker 2: They are.
Speaker 7: You're resilience, baby, through the French, your son fell. I
Speaker 7: see them, Yeah, you're see you. You don't know history
Speaker 7: of Haiti. You don't know the history of Haiti, like
Speaker 7: get the I can't even I can't.
Speaker 6: You're not a history.
Speaker 2: But to tell, baby, are resilience? Oh man?
Speaker 6: All right, listen man, Yeah, I know. I love y'all.
Speaker 2: So we're gonna have this moment and we're gonna give
Speaker 2: each other the space to speak. You're not gonna over talk, baby,
Speaker 2: d You and I are not gonna yell at each
Speaker 2: other because you know, I love you. I don't want
Speaker 2: people to think I'm being here beating on you, so
Speaker 2: you don't know.
Speaker 6: So we're gonna have this moment. We're gonna give each
Speaker 6: other the floor.
Speaker 2: Right. I'm going last only because I feel like since
Speaker 2: y'all are such cold fan, I'm a cold fan too,
Speaker 2: but y'all are like really cold fans. We've been anticipating
Speaker 2: this album for years. We finally got it. We got
Speaker 2: a weekend to live with it, we got some time
Speaker 2: to live with it, and we are here today to
Speaker 2: give our breakdown, our personal point of view, our personal feelings,
Speaker 2: our personal opinions, our subjective opinions, objective objective. Excuse me,
Speaker 2: thank you baby for that? See how we starting already
Speaker 2: on correct that I felt felt good? Right, I give
Speaker 2: it five minutes. Opinions on the fall Off by Jermaine Cole.
Speaker 2: So between you and baby d y'all pick who goes first.
Speaker 2: I will go last.
Speaker 1: Wait, now we gotta do a coin toss. No, no,
Speaker 1: I'm going I'm going to last because I need to
Speaker 1: get okay. Well, I want I want to I don't
Speaker 1: have like a monologue review. I didn't want to go
Speaker 1: through certain records and you know, make it more of
Speaker 1: a power. That's platform. Whatever you want to do with
Speaker 1: your time right now, you do it. I may yield
Speaker 1: my time, yield your time, yield my time. Sure, go No,
Speaker 1: I'm going to last. I'm definitely gonna last.
Speaker 6: I did wear sunglasses today purposely because you don't want
Speaker 6: me to see lives behind y'all.
Speaker 2: Exactly, if I say something, I want you to be
Speaker 2: able to call me out because you can see me.
Speaker 3: This is all I ask of you, niggas.
Speaker 6: This is all I ask you, niggas, is hilarious.
Speaker 2: It's all I ask.
Speaker 4: Is when you give your review, or you give your
Speaker 4: little comments or whatever, do not make it condescending.
Speaker 3: That's all I ask. If you don't like something, you.
Speaker 4: Don't like something condescending, you can you can dislike something.
Speaker 2: You could do whatever. We're not putting. We're not telling
Speaker 2: you how to give your review. Yeah, the same thing.
Speaker 6: I'm going to come in here with a bunch of negativity.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I want to hear baby's breakdown, because I know
Speaker 2: she was living all weekend with this shit.
Speaker 4: I do not have a breakdown. I don't have a breakdown.
Speaker 4: What I will say is I enjoyed the album. I
Speaker 4: didn't think that I would like the fact that it
Speaker 4: was too you know a double disc. Usually what happens
Speaker 4: with double discs, we say, yo, if you take off
Speaker 4: half of one disc, it'd be a classic. That's what
Speaker 4: people usually say when it comes to double disk. With this,
Speaker 4: I did feel like I was listening to two separate albums.
Speaker 4: I have favorites on both. I will say that I
Speaker 4: like this twenty nine more than I like this thirty nine.
Speaker 4: I will say that I am not disappointed in the album.
Speaker 2: I enjoyed it.
Speaker 3: Do I think it's the best in his catalog?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 4: Do I think it's the worst. No, I think it's
Speaker 4: a great, great album. I really really enjoyed the album.
Speaker 4: The standouts for me would be who the fuck is You?
Speaker 4: Hit the gas, quick Stop, Life, Sentence, Old Dog. Those
Speaker 4: are the standouts. If I had to pick a favorite,
Speaker 4: it would be who the fuck is You? Legacy? I
Speaker 4: think that the run from Poor Thing, which would be
Speaker 4: number five on this twenty nine all the way wait
Speaker 4: until it stops right before the letout at drumming bass,
Speaker 4: So you got poor Thing, Legacy, bunks, roll blues, who
Speaker 4: the fuck is you? Drumming bass, crazy, crazy run.
Speaker 3: I think it went.
Speaker 4: I think it was amazing. I think Cold it amazing.
Speaker 4: I'm very proud of him. I'm very proud to be
Speaker 4: a Cold fan. And I was not disappointed at all
Speaker 4: with this.
Speaker 2: That is my breakdown. Mm hmm, thank you, Peach.
Speaker 4: Seeing ship like this that makes me start saying no, no, no, no,
Speaker 4: because literally funny. Then when I Thursday and blow the grip,
Speaker 4: I'm crazy, right.
Speaker 2: I didn't want to go. I didn't want to scream,
Speaker 2: literally was trying to. But you'll be a funny. That's
Speaker 2: the thing. You'll trying to antagonize me. You niggas want
Speaker 2: me to get out. I'm sorry, thank you the way
Speaker 2: you broke that down. I didn't expect you to break
Speaker 2: it down that way, but you did a great job.
Speaker 6: Thank you so much for that. What man is your
Speaker 6: old federal Stop laughing on the goddamn time.
Speaker 1: Let me start by saying I was extremely excited and
Speaker 1: exhausted on Thursday evening.
Speaker 6: Only Cole could get me.
Speaker 1: To stay up past midnight at this point, So I
Speaker 1: want to say I was very excited to get twenty
Speaker 1: four records from Ja Cole on Thursday. When he started
Speaker 1: with the remember the Titan shit on the intro, I
Speaker 1: saw he about to take us.
Speaker 2: There you getting You're giving us a little Gary Birtier
Speaker 2: to start the shit. I'm on board.
Speaker 1: Then we get to two six. Absolutely loved it. Safety
Speaker 1: one of my favorite versions of coal rapping. Now it's
Speaker 1: going to get to my overall point way later when
Speaker 1: we start having a real pow wow. I hate when
Speaker 1: Cole feels the need to have to do everything. I
Speaker 1: don't need coal pretending to cry like a baby, just
Speaker 1: get a baby to cry. Still absolutely love the record.
Speaker 1: Run a train. I actually thought that was Cole on
Speaker 1: that that hook bridge part. I guess it was future.
Speaker 1: It sounds like cold trying to do a future impression.
Speaker 1: But that was gonna be one of my cases of
Speaker 1: you should get someone else to do it, maybe a
Speaker 1: high pitch. If Thug would have done that that hook
Speaker 1: flawless outside run a Train. Outside of that one part,
Speaker 1: because he's saying some shit on there, I think that
Speaker 1: was on it. I know, but it sounds like cold.
Speaker 1: It's weird, and even says Jermaine until I checked the credits,
Speaker 1: I really thought it was cold, just.
Speaker 6: Trying to do like a demo for somebody. But I
Speaker 6: love what he was saying.
Speaker 1: I was like, yo, Thug, even though he pitched it down,
Speaker 1: Thug would have sounded great on that. Besides just those
Speaker 1: four bars, Run a Train is fucking fire. Absolutely love it.
Speaker 1: Poor thing is great. He lost me with the punk
Speaker 1: bitch part. I thought he was rapping really well in between.
Speaker 1: But the punk bitch, if you would have done like
Speaker 1: two punk bitches, I would have been fine. Forty five
Speaker 1: punk bitches like that's where I go was like, it's
Speaker 1: a lot of punk bitches, many punk bitches. It's a
Speaker 1: lot of punk in every syllable too. But I still
Speaker 1: love poor thing and I still play It's not a
Speaker 1: skip just because of the punk pitch a part. I'm
Speaker 1: already still on board with this entire album. LEGACYE Fire,
Speaker 1: Bunch Road Blues. Cole, what a beautiful fucking way to
Speaker 1: use TAMS. Not an obvious fucking beat. That's an alchemist
Speaker 1: be right, Alchemist be You put Thames in future on it.
Speaker 1: What an awesome way to use Tams on your album.
Speaker 3: Shout out to Boss who wrote that part.
Speaker 2: Oh Boss, Boss wrote that shit had.
Speaker 6: Me damn it ready to cry. We gotta talk.
Speaker 2: Maybe you and I have something common currently in our lives.
Speaker 6: Who the fuck is you? Fire? That's what that has?
Speaker 1: The beat change right, yep, stand back to one of
Speaker 1: my points. The beat change is really cool. This is
Speaker 1: where I wish Cole maybe didn't want to just I
Speaker 1: understand t minus Vinyls and a lot of people are
Speaker 1: on that Coleman as well. I think Mike Will would
Speaker 1: have walked that beat change. I think you guys go
Speaker 1: with this to Mike Will like, hey, this is our idea,
Speaker 1: can you tune this up a bit? And you're looking
Speaker 1: at a way different beach change. I still fuck with that,
Speaker 1: like me and Damarius jamming out to that. I think
Speaker 1: it's great. But that's something that I feel like, maybe
Speaker 1: we don't use our internal This is a moment, and
Speaker 1: this is something Mike Will specializes in it.
Speaker 6: Take that to Mike Will.
Speaker 1: But I'm still on board track eight, still on board nine, drumming, bass,
Speaker 1: fucking I think it's great. I'm already ready to text
Speaker 1: you because at this point, I don't know, maybe it's
Speaker 1: like twelve forty five. When I get to track nine,
Speaker 1: I'm ready to FaceTime you to tell you that Cole's
Speaker 1: greatest rapper of all time. It's just I don't even
Speaker 1: want to hear you say a word about Jermaine Cole
Speaker 1: for the rest of your motherfucking life. Then the Letout played,
Speaker 1: and I didn't survive the letout.
Speaker 2: Well, we survived the let up, survive let Out.
Speaker 6: I didn't survive the Letout. What a concept and what
Speaker 6: a way to kill it.
Speaker 1: So the highs are so high on this album and
Speaker 1: the lows are some of the lowest Coal has ever had.
Speaker 1: And I don't want anyone that's a dream Go fan
Speaker 1: or part of that click to take that as a
Speaker 1: personal thing.
Speaker 6: I am a fan.
Speaker 1: You guys love to talk about your fans. I'm one
Speaker 1: of them, and I can be objective because I've been
Speaker 1: a supporter since he was at fucking Saint John's with
Speaker 1: Aristotle and my cousin Harley. It's one of the worst
Speaker 1: songs Cole has made, but I don't even to highlight
Speaker 1: that because there's so much good going on.
Speaker 6: But we have to be objective in what's.
Speaker 2: Going on that and then the.
Speaker 6: Electric is never mind.
Speaker 2: You know what I hate? I hate throle that out too.
Speaker 2: I hate the Letout too.
Speaker 4: But what I will say is from what I've seen
Speaker 4: on the Internet and what people have responded to me,
Speaker 4: so many people love the Letout, which lets me know
Speaker 4: that it might be like like kind of like laughy Taffy,
Speaker 4: Like I hate it, Laughy Taffy.
Speaker 2: That's a wild comparison to No, I hate it, Laughy Taffy.
Speaker 4: But it's so catchy and so many people love it,
Speaker 4: then maybe maybe maybe I'm wrong because a lot of
Speaker 4: people seem to either love it or hate it. It
Speaker 4: garners a strong reception from people. It's the one song
Speaker 4: from the album that's stuck in my fucking head, even
Speaker 4: though I hate the.
Speaker 2: Song, so let Out?
Speaker 6: Yes, what's the hook on that?
Speaker 2: Well? We survived, let up, yield your time, it's not
Speaker 2: your I'm just I'm not good with titles.
Speaker 6: But what you say start saying it. I'm like, okay,
Speaker 6: all right, okay. What disappointed me the most with that?
Speaker 2: Though?
Speaker 1: Sure, I'm sure people love the song. I'm speaking for
Speaker 1: me and me only if a majority of people love
Speaker 1: it and I hate it. Cole did his job with
Speaker 1: the record as an artist. That concept is too good
Speaker 1: of what he was trying to do with that record
Speaker 1: to make it sound like how it sounds like I
Speaker 1: would love a cold Letout record, but not that one.
Speaker 6: It was.
Speaker 2: It was just a lot. It was a lot going on,
Speaker 2: like a lot.
Speaker 6: Then we get to bombs in the vill hit the Gas.
Speaker 1: I'm with demeris that hit the gas, that flip that's
Speaker 1: one of my favorite parts in the in the double
Speaker 1: disc period and Lonely at the Top I love. At
Speaker 1: this point, I'm pretty fucking confident everything, and I'm very
Speaker 1: pleased and happy off my first listen with dis twenty nine.
Speaker 1: The Letout throw me off a little bit, but it's cool.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe that one will grow on me. I'm just
Speaker 1: seaking for my first listening the letout grower not sure.
Speaker 2: M hmm.
Speaker 5: Sometimes that's me at the lightout, like yo, let me
Speaker 5: get comfortable, all right, let me take this honey pack,
Speaker 5: all right, said I was going to bed.
Speaker 2: I prefer this time. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: Thirty nine intro comes in and I said, oh, this
Speaker 1: is this about to be the classic disc? I said
Speaker 1: this when he not, I really fuck with But Cole
Speaker 1: is about to take us to a whole new level.
Speaker 1: This is his perspective.
Speaker 6: Right now that beat switch you start rapping.
Speaker 1: Shout out to Coleman thirty nine intro one of the
Speaker 1: highest highs on this entire thing. And then the next record,
Speaker 1: which we've gotten already. The fall off is inevitable, is
Speaker 1: what it was called track to Now it's called the
Speaker 1: fall is inevitable. I don't know if that he's just
Speaker 1: that much of a profit, but the fall off for
Speaker 1: the double disc was inevitable. After Oh please, okay, not
Speaker 1: out the gate. Though the Villains is cool? Do you
Speaker 1: think I ever don't want to hear J cole rap
Speaker 1: over the Realist. This is where he starts adding in
Speaker 1: all the unnecessary hooks, classic hooks that meet me nothing
Speaker 1: to the song and make no sense with Erica Abad
Speaker 1: doing the Alchemist just redid the realness. So if you're
Speaker 1: getting Rikabad due to go back on the realness after
Speaker 1: she just put out a single, just get at erkabaddu hook.
Speaker 1: Don't take one of the greatest hooks of all time,
Speaker 1: which I'm fine if you want to sample this part
Speaker 1: of your your concept. I'm not mad at sampling that,
Speaker 1: but why me and you just have Rikabad to make
Speaker 1: a new hook. If you're gonna get Rikabaddu, just get
Speaker 1: her to.
Speaker 2: Do the hook.
Speaker 1: Don't just take outcast hook that has nothing to do
Speaker 1: with what the fuck we're really talking about. Riding around
Speaker 1: on the villa is the only thing you switched.
Speaker 2: It just was.
Speaker 6: It was weird.
Speaker 1: I didn't understand why placing that hook there, but still
Speaker 1: didn't kill the song for me. I still love the verses.
Speaker 6: I love Cole on that.
Speaker 1: Then you get to old Dog. I love T minus,
Speaker 1: so I want to make sure this is not a shot,
Speaker 1: But I think T minus should collab with somebody else
Speaker 1: on the beat except for Cole.
Speaker 6: T minus should collab with somebody else like T minus
Speaker 6: and Wonder should go in on that beat. Okay, okay,
Speaker 6: the idea is there.
Speaker 1: I even funk with the Pet Poplo shit, even with
Speaker 1: the flip of what you was doing after I hated
Speaker 1: the the Elevator's flip that you just did. I wasn't
Speaker 1: even mad at the Pet Poplo shit, And matter of fact,
Speaker 1: I thought it was funny with our predictions. I was like,
Speaker 1: nobody was there for pet Pablo. He shows up on
Speaker 1: the fucking album. I like PD's part. That beat just
Speaker 1: needed it needed the A list feel that Cole has.
Speaker 1: I just felt like it was a weird choice life sentence.
Speaker 1: I'm never gonna sit here and shit on someone loving
Speaker 1: their wife. What the fuck were doing though?
Speaker 2: What are you talking about? What? Okay?
Speaker 3: I uld the floor.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry each other, okay, okay, we gave each other's
Speaker 2: space to speak, all right, correct me every wrong.
Speaker 6: This is the one that has the DMX. How's it
Speaker 6: going down?
Speaker 2: Hook on it? Right?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the one.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 1: When the beat came in, it was cool. I was like,
Speaker 1: all right, little uh chipmunks soundclick era. I'm not mad
Speaker 1: at this year Cold told about his wife.
Speaker 2: I'm never gonna hit on that. Just why.
Speaker 6: Why randomly just throw in the DMX How's It Going Down?
Speaker 6: Hook into that song?
Speaker 1: Like, just why I get sampling the hooks and this
Speaker 1: and that, but you're just placing them in the most
Speaker 1: random fucking places.
Speaker 5: I was that.
Speaker 1: I don't want to use the words lazy, but it's
Speaker 1: just late, Like, I don't think there's anything wrong when
Speaker 1: artists do that. I defend everything Jay does when he
Speaker 1: takes bigs lyrics and flips them. I'm not mad at
Speaker 1: artists doing that at all, and I'm never mad at
Speaker 1: Cold doing with DMX. But that song, why are we
Speaker 1: just throwing the How's it Going Down?
Speaker 2: Hook?
Speaker 7: There?
Speaker 2: What do you you said it does? It's just what
Speaker 2: you think.
Speaker 4: It doesn't apply to the song that what the song
Speaker 4: is about. The song is about being down with him
Speaker 4: from when he was younger.
Speaker 3: How does it not what.
Speaker 2: Types of games be a play? Like is you with me?
Speaker 4: Or what? It's literally about his wife being with him
Speaker 4: from the very beginning of his career. How does it
Speaker 4: not correlate?
Speaker 2: You could not like this song?
Speaker 3: I just don't know.
Speaker 6: No, it's cool, cool, all right, you just said it.
Speaker 6: I'm not gonna ar.
Speaker 1: I'm just not gonna I'm not I feel like anyone
Speaker 1: that feels the same way as me understands what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: and I'm not here to argue down why that just
Speaker 1: felt weird and lazy in there, the same way I
Speaker 1: felt like the Elevator's hook felt a little lazy in
Speaker 1: that song. I understand it's the concept, but how the
Speaker 1: concept is working is you're just like plastering classic hooks
Speaker 1: in these songs and it just doesn't fit with them
Speaker 1: to me, Okay, and who the fuck am I Like,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter how I feel as far as J
Speaker 1: Cole and putting an album out, That's just how I
Speaker 1: felt on that part. Only You absolutely fucking love it.
Speaker 1: Love how he used burna boy. Only You was fucking fire.
Speaker 6: Man above.
Speaker 2: I don't know, man, maybe I just spent too much
Speaker 2: time in church. Excuse me, just too just take.
Speaker 6: Just take the never.
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's a bunch of people that are Cole
Speaker 1: fans that have never heard Marvis Sap never would have
Speaker 1: made it, but like it's just it's just like pasted
Speaker 1: into the song randomly because I liked the song and
Speaker 1: never would have made it. Comes on and I'm like, wait,
Speaker 1: does someone change the record?
Speaker 6: They trying to blend this.
Speaker 1: It's it's just pasted there. It's weird, but I like
Speaker 1: the song. He already has the Jenny from the Block
Speaker 1: hook in there. That's cool, Like it wasn't even necessary
Speaker 1: to me because the record is fire and I'm not
Speaker 1: even mad at the Jenny from the Block. That's a
Speaker 1: hook that actually made sense and how he used it
Speaker 1: like it didn't feel weird.
Speaker 6: But still right rapping I Love Her again, fucking flawless.
Speaker 1: Shout out to Jake one if there's anyone that's gonna
Speaker 1: continue on the legacy of I Used to Love Her
Speaker 1: and tell us about to continue that story. The next
Speaker 1: chapter I Used to Love Her came out with ninety something.
Speaker 1: So much has happened to hip hop so much as shifted.
Speaker 1: I thought Cole was the perfect person to then tell
Speaker 1: the rest of that story. I absolutely love I Love
Speaker 1: Her again. I liked that he used the light instead.
Speaker 1: I'm glad he didn't just use I used to love
Speaker 1: Her like randomly in there. I'm gonna save what if
Speaker 1: for for Moll's time quick stop fire. The whole world
Speaker 1: is the vill is cool to me. I think I
Speaker 1: overly judged that one because if we're believing Cole that
Speaker 1: this is his last album ever.
Speaker 6: That wasn't a h.
Speaker 1: My first song, Like when Jay lied about the Black
Speaker 1: Album being his last album, we got my first song
Speaker 1: to me. That's this is me saying I hold j
Speaker 1: Cole to hove being a peer, Like Cole is a
Speaker 1: legend now, so I hold him to that status as
Speaker 1: a fan. It was it just didn't hit for like
Speaker 1: the last song of your career. I don't dislike it.
Speaker 1: I think out of the second album, it's it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe my third favorite on there. It's just
Speaker 1: a weird way to end it. And ocean Way you
Speaker 1: call it a bonus track, so I'm not calling it
Speaker 1: the outro. I like ocean Way, but I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't consider that your last song because you said it
Speaker 1: was a bonus track, right, So that's I don't know
Speaker 1: if that's unfair, but I think as hip hop fans
Speaker 1: were allowed to judge things in that way. If you're
Speaker 1: telling me it's your last album, I got to know
Speaker 1: what your last song is going to be, right, Like
Speaker 1: that's important to me, even when when he lied to
Speaker 1: us my first song off the concept of like I
Speaker 1: treat everything as if it's my first song, it's my
Speaker 1: last song. And like listen, man hopping how a seat
Speaker 1: on his fucking bicycle. Now he's the head of black music.
Speaker 1: The whole world's not the vill.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So what I'm hearing from you is that on
Speaker 4: this thirty nine you did not like the Villist, you
Speaker 4: didn't like old Dog, you didn't like.
Speaker 6: You're misrepresenting me. I like the records.
Speaker 1: I think they were ruined by the concept of trying
Speaker 1: to crudely paste classic hooks into them. I think the
Speaker 1: songs themselves, the raps are amazing, and I wish somebody
Speaker 1: else would have stepped in to make those hooks. Okay,
Speaker 1: I think, well, I'll save one point because it's a
Speaker 1: conversation Maul and I've had about the hook thing, So
Speaker 1: I'll save that part so we can have that full
Speaker 1: conversation after Maul speaks. I feel like Cole, you know,
Speaker 1: the very few faults that he has is and he
Speaker 1: just tries to do everything. And I think that's worked
Speaker 1: out okay with him, because he is a genius in
Speaker 1: his own right. But when you're making twenty four records, nah, man,
Speaker 1: we need some hope, Yeah, we need some help. And
Speaker 1: I don't think there's anything wrong with that, but I
Speaker 1: can even hear it as a cold fan that I
Speaker 1: know I wasn't really joking when I'm hearing Cole cry
Speaker 1: like a baby, like just get a baby, Like if
Speaker 1: you're going that like that length, that length to make
Speaker 1: sure you're doing everything. I think when you're trying to
Speaker 1: do a double disc, that may hinder you a bit
Speaker 1: like this. Also shit if you go through Cole's last
Speaker 1: three albums, like has he been the main producer.
Speaker 2: Off season?
Speaker 1: Was he don't quote me, but there was a time
Speaker 1: that was always an early critique of J Cole was, Cole,
Speaker 1: You're the one of the greatest rappers we've ever heard.
Speaker 1: I know you're trying to do the Kanye thing, but
Speaker 1: maybe let other people do the beats. And I think
Speaker 1: he listened to that for a long time. And I'm
Speaker 1: not mad at anyone wanting to go betch your career
Speaker 1: if you want to go back to your passion of
Speaker 1: making beats. He did say that in that clip from
Speaker 1: the Doctor came out like he saw T Minus cooking
Speaker 1: up on the road. He's like, y'all forgot how much
Speaker 1: I used to love making beats. I want to focus
Speaker 1: on that. I respect that dog, but twenty four records,
Speaker 1: even Big and Puff needed to hit man like, you're
Speaker 1: gonna need help.
Speaker 6: Yeah, we all eyes.
Speaker 1: I mean, we're gonna need Daz, We're gonna need Drey,
Speaker 1: We're gonna need Nate, We're gonna need a lot of
Speaker 1: people to really bring this to life because it's it's
Speaker 1: that's a task though. Yeah, ten records is a task.
Speaker 1: I think that's where the second dist to me was
Speaker 1: a little off. You try and do everything and it's like,
Speaker 1: all right, well then I'll just pay this this hook
Speaker 1: here that's already proven, and I just think Cole is
Speaker 1: better than that.
Speaker 2: That's all.
Speaker 1: But this twenty nine I love Outside of the letout,
Speaker 1: I fucking love this twenty nine.
Speaker 2: So are you thirty nine?
Speaker 1: There's a few records and again old dog like, I'm
Speaker 1: not mad at the like, I don't skip that record.
Speaker 1: I just feel like it could have been better with
Speaker 1: the resources that Jay Cole has and the resources that
Speaker 1: Tim Mayus has as well, because I don't want to
Speaker 1: take I think T minus is one of the best
Speaker 1: underrated producers. We said that last episode. I Yeah, I
Speaker 1: just think so were you disappointed as a Cole fan.
Speaker 1: It's too much to digest in one weekend and say disappointed.
Speaker 1: Let me say no, no, I'm not disappointed. I just
Speaker 1: don't know if two discs for me was necessary. Okay,
Speaker 1: I can't speak obviously for Ja Cole. It's his decision
Speaker 1: for all the dream though listeners out there. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying what he should have done, telling him as a
Speaker 1: consumer how I felt. You don't have to two step, Yes,
Speaker 1: who's two stepping? It's okay just to give your opinion.
Speaker 1: You don't have to since one is okay to just
Speaker 1: give you up. They put my mother's address on the internet.
Speaker 1: What you wait, what are you talking about? Just give
Speaker 1: your opinion. See what they've done with this man. You
Speaker 1: could just give your opinion.
Speaker 6: Yeah right, Oh my god, that's funny.
Speaker 4: Well J Cole fan storage because I gave a music opinion.
Speaker 4: J Cole doesn't really have the lunatic fans like that.
Speaker 4: I don't think his fans are that lunatic like. I
Speaker 4: don't think they're as crazy as the rest of them.
Speaker 2: That's because they didn't need to be. And now, if
Speaker 2: you've seen what the stand game is different now, and
Speaker 2: I think Cole fans are competitive enough to compete. They're
Speaker 2: gonna show out. This is what y'all doing now, all right? Bet?
Speaker 6: And they claim to be more intelligence, so they're gonna
Speaker 6: haveck you like eye clouds. They're gonna go nuts.
Speaker 3: Okay, ma, don't piss me off.
Speaker 6: Please wait before he goes. Did I piss you off?
Speaker 2: Was that? Did I feel like an honest review from
Speaker 2: someone you know very well? That was?
Speaker 4: I actually feel like you're being nicer than you want
Speaker 4: to be. The only reason why I stopped you was
Speaker 4: when I just I was trying to get you to
Speaker 4: I just was confused. Now how life sentence and that
Speaker 4: how those two songs didn correlate. That's the things why
Speaker 4: I stopped you. Your opinion is your opinion.
Speaker 3: You could like or not like just a lazy Okay,
Speaker 3: it could be lazy, but I just didn't.
Speaker 1: Is rapped about the beautiful relationship he has with his
Speaker 1: his wife in the past compared to that was lazy.
Speaker 4: You didn't feel him when he said I'm doing you dirty,
Speaker 4: but like not as bad as I could be, and
Speaker 4: that that made me feel better.
Speaker 2: You me feel him when I was just twenty nine.
Speaker 2: I may have felt him, but I'm a change man.
Speaker 2: Look at the range.
Speaker 3: You got a whole new game plan.
Speaker 2: Jamal, Damn, Jamal was crazy.
Speaker 6: That's my name, but damn both jays Ja and Jamal.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 6: I love I love both of y'all said.
Speaker 2: Because I kind of echoed a lot of y'all sentiments
Speaker 2: as well, I will say this, I think j Cole
Speaker 2: is a phenomenal rapper, phenomenal MC, one of the best
Speaker 2: that I've ever heard. I think that this album because
Speaker 2: we've been anticipating this is probably what eight years now,
Speaker 2: we're almost ten. Right after having a weekend to live
Speaker 2: with it, and I did listen to it a lot
Speaker 2: over the weekend. Just let it play, Let it run.
Speaker 2: I was underwhelmed, so many years of anticipation for this project,
Speaker 2: for this album, I was underwhelmed. Again. I'm not an MC,
Speaker 2: I'm not a rapper. I can never do what Jake
Speaker 2: Cole does, so I don't want to disrespect.
Speaker 6: Sorry, that's he was quiet during your time.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
Speaker 4: I'm so sorry that I was trying to play the
Speaker 4: song to figure out if Roy was right.
Speaker 1: But that's that's unfair. He showed a lot of respect team.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
Speaker 4: I'm literally sorry. I accidentally pressed play on my phone.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, it's okay, you were saying, I was saying underwhelm.
Speaker 4: That was underwhelm. Uh.
Speaker 2: I think that I overlooked a lot of j Cole's flaws.
Speaker 6: Over the years.
Speaker 2: When it comes to song making, when it comes to
Speaker 2: album making, I think a lot of these hooks were uh,
Speaker 2: Like Worrey said, lazy, I'm never questioning Ja Cole's ability
Speaker 2: to rap and to bar you down. He's one of
Speaker 2: the best to do that. But when you say album time,
Speaker 2: this is an album mode. Now, we got to get
Speaker 2: into song making. We got to get into replay value,
Speaker 2: we got to get into you know, those type of
Speaker 2: things when it's an album. I think a lot of
Speaker 2: these songs the hooks were we're not holding up the bars,
Speaker 2: used a lot of sample hooks. Even the Bunch rolled.
Speaker 2: I think that's the one with Tims in Future. I
Speaker 2: love that record. Why do you have future singing? The
Speaker 2: usher like song on there? Like I just just gave it.
Speaker 6: He gave a bar in the beginning, right, it was
Speaker 6: just like.
Speaker 4: It was and then he switched. Yeah, all he said
Speaker 4: was the seven o'clock on the dot, and then he
Speaker 4: switched it yeah, but I just didn't.
Speaker 2: I didn't like that. I think, if you're gonna use
Speaker 2: to treat on the record, let it just be a
Speaker 2: whole different. Like we never heard a lot of this
Speaker 2: just felt like we heard the parts. Because there's some
Speaker 2: good moments on this album. It's some good moments. What
Speaker 2: would the what would the good moments be for you?
Speaker 2: What do you think? I think Bunch Road is dope?
Speaker 2: Who the fuck is You?
Speaker 6: Is cool?
Speaker 2: I just don't want to keep saying who the fuck
Speaker 2: is you? I think it's rapping on there. Which one
Speaker 2: is the uh?
Speaker 6: I can't you know?
Speaker 2: I'm terrible to sing it a little bit? The Dude,
Speaker 2: the Ride of Me and the Jolly, I mean whatever
Speaker 2: song that was his flowing That was crazy.
Speaker 6: He was baring you down.
Speaker 2: I didn't like the hook. Like I said, I'm never
Speaker 2: expecting j Cole to not wrap his ass off. You
Speaker 2: could do that. It's always when it comes time to
Speaker 2: song making and is the hook strong as the bars?
Speaker 2: And to me, it's like Wor said, who's in the
Speaker 2: studio with you in you're creating? Because I think if
Speaker 2: you listen to one of his arts, like a J
Speaker 2: I d why wasn't j I D. I think Jid
Speaker 2: should have been used more in this album making process
Speaker 2: with strict not bars, because Jay Colder need that just songmaking,
Speaker 2: because Jid is does very a very well rounded artist,
Speaker 2: as he could rap his ass off, but even his
Speaker 2: hooks are strong. I just think you need to have
Speaker 2: certain inspiration to certain artists that you have in close
Speaker 2: proximity two when you're making these projects. Like again, I
Speaker 2: don't know what Cole's songmaking and album making process looks like.
Speaker 2: I don't know who's in there with them. I'm just
Speaker 2: saying it's okay, like what we said to just the
Speaker 2: guys that again your camp still somebody like j I
Speaker 2: D have him in there just to listen to some
Speaker 2: songs and some records and give his opinion here and there.
Speaker 6: We saw that with Boss on the off season.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Boss did like seven hooks on the off season,
Speaker 1: and that's I thought incredible.
Speaker 2: I'm not mad at that when it's gonna make songmaking again, Bars,
Speaker 2: I'm never questioning Jermaine Cole's ability to bar you down, but.
Speaker 1: He never This is the first time I think that
Speaker 1: flawed kind of came back because I think it sideline story,
Speaker 1: which I.
Speaker 6: Don't put all on him.
Speaker 1: I think he was pressured a lot with rock and
Speaker 1: it just being in that era where you needed to
Speaker 1: have this smash R and B singer, and I don't
Speaker 1: put too much on him for that. But then for
Speaker 1: Still Drive, I think he started to get it correct
Speaker 1: on how he could balance that not making it too
Speaker 1: much him On on Hooks even when there wasn't a
Speaker 1: feature kod I thought he got it right, and offseason
Speaker 1: I thought he got it right. It's it felt more
Speaker 1: born center and sideline story with the hooks on this one,
Speaker 1: I mean again.
Speaker 6: Didn't love it.
Speaker 2: There was some good moments on the album here and there.
Speaker 6: Do we need two discs?
Speaker 2: No, I think we could have took We could have
Speaker 2: taken this down and you know, made one disc, take
Speaker 2: the best off each disc. Because again we talked about
Speaker 2: you get into that that that space where it gets dangerous.
Speaker 2: He talking about two discs. You got to be able
Speaker 2: to your song your song making, not your rapping ability
Speaker 2: to have two discs. Your song making ability has to
Speaker 2: be incredible, especially hooks. I agree, your bridges, that has
Speaker 2: to be in credible. You have to be able to
Speaker 2: do that at an incredible volume.
Speaker 1: Especially I'm sorry to cut you off, especially when you're
Speaker 1: someone like Cole And that's not a slight y'all be
Speaker 1: clowning Kendrick on the funny voice shit. That does help
Speaker 1: break things up sonically, like NICKI is really great at
Speaker 1: that as well. Like when you can wrap that, well,
Speaker 1: you do need to give the person's ear a break
Speaker 1: for a second.
Speaker 6: Like tone does matter.
Speaker 1: And I think twenty four Records Big was was very
Speaker 1: much one of the greatest rap voices ever, obviously at
Speaker 1: a bunch of different flows, but he knew how to
Speaker 1: break up the records where you would get a break
Speaker 1: from Big. It's a lot to digest when you're that
Speaker 1: good at rapping, and twenty four Records is just too much.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was just that way.
Speaker 2: It was too much for the for the hooks and
Speaker 2: the songs not to be, you know, as strong as
Speaker 2: they should have been for twenty four tracks. The what
Speaker 2: If song?
Speaker 4: Can I take a bathroom break? Y'all can keep talking?
Speaker 4: I left that one alone because I wanted to have
Speaker 4: this as a group talk. Well, well, let me let
Speaker 4: me let me continue before get into what If. Compliments
Speaker 4: Listen Jaco, phenomenal MC, incredible MC, and is incredible raps ad.
Speaker 2: So I just it's just the hooks, man, the hooks.
Speaker 2: For me, it was just it was it was way
Speaker 2: too many moments of just like where the hooks felt lazy.
Speaker 2: It felt like, Okay, let me just lean on this this, this,
Speaker 2: this hook that people know that they already love to
Speaker 2: fill in here. It felt like a lot of references,
Speaker 2: like a lot of reference hooks. Like it felt like,
Speaker 2: let me put this here, but I'll go back and
Speaker 2: change it. We do know that Jaco had to change
Speaker 2: some things on the album because of things that happened.
Speaker 2: He had to change some things around. What he had
Speaker 2: to change, we don't know, but I feel like gaps
Speaker 2: are there. We can kind of feel like where he
Speaker 2: was going to have bigger songs with bigger hooks, had
Speaker 2: he had certain individuals on this album.
Speaker 6: I think that that was blatant.
Speaker 2: It was like because there's no to me, there's no
Speaker 2: I remember Damara saying he gonna have a bop. I
Speaker 2: don't know if I hear a bop on here? Who
Speaker 2: the fuck is?
Speaker 6: You as cool?
Speaker 2: But it's just too much who the fuck is just
Speaker 2: the same repetitive. It's like again to me, that stat
Speaker 2: when you have a pin like j Cole to repeat
Speaker 2: who the fuck is you? As many times as a hook?
Speaker 2: To me, again, I can't do what Jay Cole does,
Speaker 2: but to me as a listener, that just feels lazy.
Speaker 2: It feels like, oh, let me just repeat this over
Speaker 2: and over as the hook. I don't know if I
Speaker 2: hear a bop on it. I don't know if I
Speaker 2: hear something that I'm gonna want to hear and ride to.
Speaker 2: And I don't know if I hear that again. The
Speaker 2: music on is, like I said, there's some moments on
Speaker 2: It's some good moments on this, on this, on this project,
Speaker 2: but I don't think it's nothing that sustains and nothing
Speaker 2: that I'm gonna want to keep going back to.
Speaker 6: Not one song of songs I'm going back to that.
Speaker 6: I like Monce wrote a lot.
Speaker 2: How do you feel about drum and bass?
Speaker 6: Which one is that?
Speaker 3: Well, we talked that drumming bass, Fuck you Tom, I.
Speaker 6: That's cool, that's cool, but again I'm just not I'm
Speaker 6: not in love with it.
Speaker 2: But it's cool.
Speaker 6: It's cool.
Speaker 2: So you're disappointed as well, not disappointed, underwhelmed for me
Speaker 2: to be anticipating this project for almost ten years. I
Speaker 2: just feel like we've gotten albums from other artists in
Speaker 2: the past year that was better than this, And I
Speaker 2: don't think any of those guys could probably raps because
Speaker 2: it's J Cole, you know what I'm saying. So again
Speaker 2: that just leads to song making ability and album making ability.
Speaker 6: Too much cold.
Speaker 2: I think again, to double this thing. We talked about
Speaker 2: that when we first heard It's Gonna bedub. That's tricky
Speaker 2: in dangerous waters when you start talking about twenty plush tracks,
Speaker 2: breaking it up into two different you know, albums or whatever.
Speaker 6: Not many can do that.
Speaker 2: But again, good moments. I don't want to seem like
Speaker 2: I'm just shitting on the album, because I'm not. There's
Speaker 2: some good moments on there, obviously, good rapping, great rapping.
Speaker 2: Just the songs don't really you know, not enough songs
Speaker 2: hold me and sustained my listening to it. I'm like, nah,
Speaker 2: this shit is crazy. But there was some good moments
Speaker 2: on there. There was some good moments. Now to what if,
Speaker 2: because I spoke, I spoke about it. I said, I
Speaker 2: felt like J Cole should address the situation and debt
Speaker 2: that he went through because obviously it was a big
Speaker 2: moment and you know his role in it. I felt like,
Speaker 2: you know, he gave us, you know, kind of glimpses
Speaker 2: into it, or was it poort Antonio or something like
Speaker 2: that gave us glimpses into it. But I felt like
Speaker 2: he should have used this album to really get into
Speaker 2: his emotion around that whole thing, is thinking around that
Speaker 2: whole moment, things he may feel.
Speaker 6: Towards both of those gentlemen.
Speaker 2: Even day, I felt like he should have used some
Speaker 2: of this album on that.
Speaker 6: The what if thing.
Speaker 2: I didn't like it only because again we apologizing and
Speaker 2: it's like why, Like, first of all, that's not even
Speaker 2: your error. You didn't know packin Big. I gounnderstand if
Speaker 2: jay Z made a song like this, NAS made we
Speaker 2: will survive. I can understand if Navs made a song
Speaker 2: like this, it was right j Cole, I get it.
Speaker 2: Fans of both of those MC's probably has real feelings
Speaker 2: like damn, I wish that didn't happen, because obviously we
Speaker 2: lost two of the best around some shit. But then
Speaker 2: try to cure it in a way where he kind
Speaker 2: of was talking about how he felt in his moment
Speaker 2: of battling one of his brothers or one of his
Speaker 2: friends and things like that, and I felt like that
Speaker 2: was just kind of again, that was a lazy attempt
Speaker 2: at addressing, you know, his own situation in the industry
Speaker 2: and then rapping and battling and how it could turn
Speaker 2: negative and ugly and you know it could go away
Speaker 2: that you don't want it to go again. Jake Cole
Speaker 2: is a great MC, great writer. I just felt like
Speaker 2: he used that moment the wrong way.
Speaker 4: Where did you feel like he was using his own
Speaker 4: well when things where he said, like, you know, uh,
Speaker 4: they're so uncomparable, I would apologize.
Speaker 2: I should have apologized. You know, you're still mid some
Speaker 2: shit he said. Well, I kind of felt like that
Speaker 2: was him talking to uh Drake, like that was like
Speaker 2: a bar like, you know, obviously, I know he's gonna
Speaker 2: hear this again. I understand he's talking has Pot and
Speaker 2: talking as big, but again, we know the moment that
Speaker 2: he was in in his own battle and rap. I
Speaker 2: feel like that was kind of like a little you know, Okay,
Speaker 2: that's you talking. I understand you talking as Big in POC,
Speaker 2: but that's Jake Cole talking to Drake right there. Just
Speaker 2: which part exactly I missed my dog? I ain't got
Speaker 2: to hide.
Speaker 3: If I hurt you, I apologize that party.
Speaker 1: You get what I'm saying, Like, obviously, I don't know
Speaker 1: if that's case. I still would have been mad at
Speaker 1: this song, but I would have understood it more if
Speaker 1: he did a third verse, speaking as Ja Cole in
Speaker 1: the situation he went through, if we're going to address
Speaker 1: people apologizing to each other, like, I would have still
Speaker 1: hated that you did the big perspective in POC perspective,
Speaker 1: but if you did the third verse as Jake Cole
Speaker 1: to show like, Okay, this is what if they would
Speaker 1: have apologized and then gave your perspective, everything look all right.
Speaker 1: At least he tied it all together. This is a
Speaker 1: cop out to me.
Speaker 6: I actually do.
Speaker 1: Feel and I'm speculating called me an idiot.
Speaker 6: I'm fine with that.
Speaker 1: I think at some point in the studio Jake Cole
Speaker 1: had an idea of doing a song like this from
Speaker 1: the perspective of Drake and the perspective of Kendrick, and
Speaker 1: then his third verse would be his perspective in the
Speaker 1: same concept of what if they apologize to each other?
Speaker 6: What if that she didn't happen and I don't even worse.
Speaker 1: I agree, and I think somebody said, bro, don't do that,
Speaker 1: and he liked the concept so much that he was like,
Speaker 1: I'll do it his pocket bit.
Speaker 2: And I think it even came out ten times yea,
Speaker 2: because it's not there's no coincidence that he did this,
Speaker 2: Like we know that I could be one thousand percent wrong.
Speaker 2: I'm just speculating what this is.
Speaker 6: But I'm just just the climate and how it looks.
Speaker 2: Obviously we lost these to cs over what people think
Speaker 2: it was because of the battle. It was a lot
Speaker 2: deeper than just the battle. But I understand what Cole
Speaker 2: was doing with this. Again, I just think that his
Speaker 2: he had such a huge moment that he could have
Speaker 2: spoken about more in depth on this album, and he
Speaker 2: didn't do that to me, Like, I just felt like,
Speaker 2: you know, even on the other one, what's the one
Speaker 2: where he sampled the common joint her I love her again?
Speaker 2: Do you think that that was more of a dress
Speaker 2: than anything else?
Speaker 6: He quoted? He quoted he said to my friends, would
Speaker 6: be beef and whatever whatever.
Speaker 2: With that, Like, again, you could have used more, you
Speaker 2: could have went into depth more. We get it. She
Speaker 2: told me. Wasn't mad at just a quick quick mention
Speaker 2: of that in that record, I wouldn't want to fold.
Speaker 1: I'd rather what If, I am because I think that
Speaker 1: he needs to speak to that more. I'm saying I'd
Speaker 1: rather that than what If. Then when he said hip
Speaker 1: hop not she was the best I ever had.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the type of games is why too of my
Speaker 4: homie started to beef to both of them. She said,
Speaker 4: you're the best I ever had. And the whole time
Speaker 4: that bitch was saying that type of shit to me,
Speaker 4: fuck exactly. I like that he just left it at that. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I got mind that. I thought that was perfectly when
Speaker 4: it comes to what If, So I listened. I only
Speaker 4: listened to the first disc first because I wanted to
Speaker 4: digest them as two differentness. Listen to the first this
Speaker 4: and then I went on the internet and people started
Speaker 4: talking about what the concept.
Speaker 2: Of what if.
Speaker 4: So when I got to the second disc, I skipped
Speaker 4: what If. I didn't hear what If till damn near
Speaker 4: Sunday and I was talking to somebody and they were like,
Speaker 4: why you haven't heard it yet? And I was like no,
Speaker 4: and they were like why. I'm like, because no matter
Speaker 4: how well he executes this, it's going to be bad,
Speaker 4: Like there's no it's gonna be bad no matter how.
Speaker 4: And I think that he executed executed it better than
Speaker 4: other people who have done it, just because of his
Speaker 4: and ability. But you're not the person who does this
Speaker 4: like you're making it. I literally said to the person
Speaker 4: who told me that he's making it hard for me
Speaker 4: to go in the work on Monday as a J.
Speaker 4: Cole fan, because it's like, I've been through enough. I
Speaker 4: don't need you know what I've been through enough, Like
Speaker 4: I don't need to have to go into work a J.
Speaker 2: Cole fan because and again I'm a fan too, but
Speaker 2: you like really love Cole? Are you do you love
Speaker 2: this album? Give me one second, let me finish, and
Speaker 2: I have one more thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, But I was just gonna say, well, what if
Speaker 4: it gives to me or not even what it gives
Speaker 4: to me, just what it gives generally that I have
Speaker 4: to come in here and fucking defend is See, guys,
Speaker 4: if they would apologize like I did, they still be alive.
Speaker 4: That's what it gives to me, And it makes me
Speaker 4: want to choke myself. So it's like why, why, why
Speaker 4: that's nasty? Why you know what I'm saying like you're
Speaker 4: making my job hard.
Speaker 1: That's that's a perfect way I wanted to get with
Speaker 1: with with my point because even if that wasn't Cole's intentions, that's.
Speaker 2: How I came across.
Speaker 1: I'm sure listening, but it came across that way. Yeah,
Speaker 1: even if there's plenty of things I say on here
Speaker 1: that come across so blatantly and I'm like in mi head,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I didn't mean it that way, and everyone,
Speaker 1: including you guys, are like, that's how you sound.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that happens.
Speaker 1: I'm saying this came across nasty and weird, and it
Speaker 1: feels like you're trying to compare it like you took
Speaker 1: the higher road and look what could have become. And
Speaker 1: the difference is it's apples and bowling balls. This shit
Speaker 1: started deep, when people were dying, people were being shot.
Speaker 1: It wasn't somebody teasing you on a metro beat Like.
Speaker 1: It's a drastically different scenario that can't be comparable. Cole
Speaker 1: even saying that first line as Big to me was
Speaker 1: like the most offensive thing that all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: Big would have been, like Big should have been, like, yo, man,
Speaker 1: I know you said you fucked my wife.
Speaker 2: But yo, we should end this right, like what we gotta.
Speaker 4: Stop speaking from the perspective of dead people.
Speaker 2: Like like that's what Big should have done is disrespectful
Speaker 2: and like it's.
Speaker 1: It's like offensive hindsight, like that Big should have been
Speaker 1: like you know what, you're right. A matter of fact,
Speaker 1: Big handle that better than any twenty four year old
Speaker 1: on earth would have handled that situation. Also, MA, I know,
Speaker 1: I thought, I just thought, what if it was one
Speaker 1: of the when I said some of the highest highs
Speaker 1: were cold and some of the lowest fucking low.
Speaker 2: And it sucks because the rapping is so good.
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Speaker 6: No I saw some switch it to AI with the
Speaker 6: flow whatever.
Speaker 2: You know. The interesting part about the what If song
Speaker 2: is that is Cold talking what if what if I
Speaker 2: stayed in the battle, what if things were different in
Speaker 2: that moment and listening to a lot of Cold because
Speaker 2: I've been I've been waiting for this album only because
Speaker 2: I wanted to listen to literally everything Cole said and
Speaker 2: to me so much more makes it makes so much
Speaker 2: more sense to me now why Cold did what he did.
Speaker 6: On this album.
Speaker 2: He speaks to commitment issues, He speaks to being a
Speaker 2: sidewalk nigga mean and he never wanted to jump in traffic,
Speaker 2: never wanted.
Speaker 6: To be in the streets.
Speaker 2: He's always been there with though I don't mean that.
Speaker 2: He's always said they which I always appreciated Cold, But
Speaker 2: it makes it makes more sense now coming off of
Speaker 2: everything like there it is like, Okay, Cool, I have
Speaker 2: no problem with it. I just never paid attention to
Speaker 2: it that much before twenty twenty four because we didn't
Speaker 2: have that moment after twenty twenty four. Now he says that,
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, I get it now, like that that
Speaker 2: was never you that was never who you are, and
Speaker 2: I can't be mad at that. Be your true self.
Speaker 2: If that's not who you are, no problem. My only
Speaker 2: issue is I feel like everything.
Speaker 6: Posts that it speaks to again. This is just my
Speaker 6: thoughts looking for the house I'm looking in.
Speaker 2: I think that Jake Cole's forever stuck in that dream
Speaker 2: Fest apology moment. Mentally, I don't never spoke to him,
Speaker 2: never had a personal but I think that that moment.
Speaker 2: I think if he had that moment to do over again,
Speaker 2: he would do it differently, only because only because all
Speaker 2: he had to do was what he's incredible at doing. Literally,
Speaker 2: I disagree because and I was gonna ask my flowers
Speaker 2: at the end from Demarius from the record she loves
Speaker 2: caught a lot of bodies, So my closet it got
Speaker 2: ston skeletons.
Speaker 6: Don't believe me. Call your favorite rapper for the evidence.
Speaker 2: I told you my theory two years ago on stage
Speaker 2: when he brought up his family and yeah, I'm not
Speaker 2: playing I'm not playing this mess. I've been on tour
Speaker 2: with everybody. They know all my shit.
Speaker 3: I think you mean, well, you know, we all interpret
Speaker 3: bars differently, but that's caught.
Speaker 1: A lot of bodies. So on my closet, it got skeletons.
Speaker 1: Don't believe me, Call your favorite rapper for the evidence.
Speaker 4: Caught a lot of bodies, as in like I cleaned
Speaker 4: a lot of niggas up. Don't believe me. Call your
Speaker 4: favorite rapper for the evidence, because I've been on songs
Speaker 4: with your favorite rappers and clean them up. But again,
Speaker 4: we all interpret bars differently, go both ways. I said
Speaker 4: he had he had a combo with Kendrick. Combo, Drake,
Speaker 4: there's a I have no fucking idea had a combo
Speaker 4: with them. Saw where ship was going, and so oh nah,
Speaker 4: He's talked about Infidel, He's talked about all this. I'm
Speaker 4: not saying anything that he hasn't talked about in his music.
Speaker 4: And I'm not trying to bring up Oh everyone moves
Speaker 4: on and becomes better people. I'm not shipping on jac
Speaker 4: But I think that line is directly, directly, directly to
Speaker 4: the point I made after dream bill Fest when he said,
Speaker 4: y I got a family Now though I'm not even
Speaker 4: trying to do this type of ship, I want to Yeah,
Speaker 4: I know where you're about to take it. You're about
Speaker 4: to the personal sh If.
Speaker 2: That's the case, I even look at that, like that's
Speaker 2: a simple conversation, like that was before we got married
Speaker 2: and all that. Look, if a nigga's like, yo, you
Speaker 2: was fucking mad bitches that was before, Like that's not
Speaker 2: to me, that's lazy, that's a lazy excuse, Like I don't,
Speaker 2: I don't believe that. And if that was, that's crazy.
Speaker 2: If that was your reason for doing what she was doing,
Speaker 2: I don't want wife here to know. I be nigga.
Speaker 2: You j Cole, you think your wife don't know you
Speaker 2: got pussy from other women.
Speaker 6: Let's let us let's all relax on that personal part.
Speaker 2: I'm just I'm not saying it's true. I'm just saying,
Speaker 2: if Rapper says it, you think your wife can be
Speaker 2: like word, Okay, now you're one of the dumpest some
Speaker 2: scenes of your fucking generation. I'm pretty sure you got groupies.
Speaker 1: But let's let's let him, let's use let's use mister
Speaker 1: Morale as an example. Where As, yes, everyone thought that,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure that was tough conversations that Kendrick and
Speaker 1: Whitney had to have when he was about to tell
Speaker 1: the world that he had been cheated on our infidelities.
Speaker 1: Sex addicted the whole shit. I'm saying Kendrick got ahead
Speaker 1: of that, and he told us that we all look
Speaker 1: at Cole, especially Cole fans, as like this clean that
Speaker 1: you think I don't think it's about me.
Speaker 2: You think that was in the middle of interrupted me,
Speaker 2: interrupted me every day and I'm sorry, trying to get better. Man.
Speaker 4: You think that Kendrick didn't talk to his wife before
Speaker 4: he went in the move and told us what he
Speaker 4: told You think that was her first time?
Speaker 1: Literally just that's what he just said, literally, So how
Speaker 1: you know that Cole didn't do that with his And
Speaker 1: I finished my point. I'm saying that it has nothing.
Speaker 1: I'm sure Cole has talked to his wife about that stuff.
Speaker 1: I'm saying the perception of Coal has been this squeaky clean.
Speaker 1: It would devastate a lot of his fan base in
Speaker 1: the world if you angled it correctly in a rap
Speaker 1: beef to show the false prophet shit you've been saying.
Speaker 1: Everyone else is a false fucking prophet dog everything even
Speaker 1: saying on your albums is a fucking lie because you
Speaker 1: did this on tour. I'm not saying any of this
Speaker 1: is true, but and we clearly know that in this
Speaker 1: rap beef. Things were said that were not true whatsoever,
Speaker 1: and everything was on the table. We can lie and
Speaker 1: make up anything. You don't think somebody could angle coal
Speaker 1: based off one little thing maybe they saw on tour
Speaker 1: that he already talked to his wife about that could
Speaker 1: not skew the perception of the world of how they
Speaker 1: view him.
Speaker 6: They just half the world did the same thing that differently.
Speaker 2: Now, you're right, you're absolutely right.
Speaker 6: So I think Cole is like, there, I'm getting the
Speaker 6: fuck out.
Speaker 2: Of here though. That's to me, that's Corney. Well we've
Speaker 2: had that is the angle, right, say what he's saying
Speaker 2: is true. That means I don't battle. That means like, nah, choice,
Speaker 2: I don't want nobody hearing that about me. What are
Speaker 2: we talking about? You want of the illness? Like and
Speaker 2: again back to my original point, people, and listen, and
Speaker 2: he ain't got no squeaky clean nothing. He's right now. Okay, Well,
Speaker 2: back back to back to my original point. Yes, I
Speaker 2: think that Jay Cole mentally will never get over his
Speaker 2: decision he made that day.
Speaker 6: I don't think he will.
Speaker 2: And when I said what I said the twenty four
Speaker 2: about career suicide, and everybody's like Nah, you're bugging. I'm
Speaker 2: not talking about album sales and selling tickets. I'm talking
Speaker 2: about the meaning behind his words now, the validity behind
Speaker 2: his pen, how other MC's view him. I don't think
Speaker 2: that none of that. I think all of that is
Speaker 2: over with. He talked about killing his own self, his
Speaker 2: yourself on on the album. I don't do that because
Speaker 2: that was about killing his old self. It's like to
Speaker 2: kill j z Intro, Like, I understand what he was
Speaker 2: saying about killing his old self as old.
Speaker 1: He doesn't even like this to be part of this
Speaker 1: whole thing, Like I don't, so why are we here?
Speaker 6: You're allowed to feel that way at this point in
Speaker 6: your career?
Speaker 2: Like, but but that's that's again that leads to his
Speaker 2: decision in the battle. It's too much of this, I respond,
Speaker 2: I take it back. I want to be a part
Speaker 2: of the shit. Nah, I don't want to be a
Speaker 2: part of the shit. Like, Bro, what we just talking
Speaker 2: about rapping and making music here?
Speaker 4: Bro, Like, I don't understand why were putting all of
Speaker 4: this extra, Like it's not that deep with whatever battle
Speaker 4: y'all was about to have, whatever conversation you had with Kendrick, Like,
Speaker 4: nothing to me.
Speaker 2: Was that deep to where Cole couldn't just be who
Speaker 2: cold is a phenomenal MC through all of that shit,
Speaker 2: and I hear you.
Speaker 1: But where the contradiction would come is the hindsight being
Speaker 1: twenty twenty. And I don't think Cole, is that so
Speaker 1: raven and fucking predicted all that? But you rightfully so
Speaker 1: I have come up here that this ship has crossed
Speaker 1: a fucking line. No, it's not just rapping anymore. Somebody
Speaker 1: was called something that is inexcusable in the world, like
Speaker 1: you come up here and said was crossed instead said
Speaker 1: all that else to me was cool. So you're saying, no,
Speaker 1: it's just line. No it wasn't because you just came
Speaker 1: in here and said that with drinking.
Speaker 6: But that to me was the only line that was crossed.
Speaker 2: That to me, it was only line. Like what I
Speaker 2: f am, Now you're just saying anything if that's what
Speaker 2: you're doing, like man to me that again, I said
Speaker 2: that through the whole thing, but just battling. And then
Speaker 2: now I think forever like your words, like you even
Speaker 2: you hear it in them, the confidence don't even it's
Speaker 2: not even there no more. Everything is like it's almost
Speaker 2: victim mentality honestly, like he's almost rapping as from the
Speaker 2: perspective of a victim, I don't. I don't even want
Speaker 2: this success. I don't even want this ship. I don't
Speaker 2: even want them.
Speaker 4: But that's not But this isn't Cole's first Yes it's not.
Speaker 4: But coming off of what he did, it means and
Speaker 4: it feels different now.
Speaker 2: So and that was my point everything from that moment,
Speaker 2: which is why I said, if he had to do
Speaker 2: it over again, it's a different it's a different decision
Speaker 2: he makes because again I think mentally, mentally, because he
Speaker 2: knows how dope he is. He's stuck in at a
Speaker 2: moment like I should have just bowed. I should have
Speaker 2: just jumped in there and just got my shit up,
Speaker 2: because that's this is what you do. This is the
Speaker 2: easies shit in the world for you to rap. No,
Speaker 2: a lot of niggas can't rap with ja code. We're
Speaker 2: talking about just fuck a hook, fucking up, just bars.
Speaker 2: Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? And that's
Speaker 2: why I was so disappointed, because I was looking at
Speaker 2: it like, no, this is what you do.
Speaker 6: This we ain't talking about who make a better song,
Speaker 6: who make a better hook. We're talking about who could
Speaker 6: put pin the paper and whoop.
Speaker 2: Ass, well we're moving, I mean a chance.
Speaker 1: And that's kind of why I hate what If being
Speaker 1: on here completely And sorry, I know I cut you
Speaker 1: off because we're talking about this right now, like just
Speaker 1: you should have just left the ship off the album
Speaker 1: so we wouldn't even be having this conversation. Kend Or
Speaker 1: Drake would not have been brought up on less on
Speaker 1: this podcast unless you did the what if?
Speaker 2: What if? What What song?
Speaker 4: If? What?
Speaker 3: What song?
Speaker 6: Would I brought up drink on any of MA.
Speaker 2: Would have brought it up with the I Love You again?
Speaker 3: That would have got. It would have gotten.
Speaker 1: But I thought, I don't think he'd be talking the
Speaker 1: way he's talking again in here with this apology what
Speaker 1: if ship, and it's not. It's again apples and bowling balls,
Speaker 1: not even the same comparison.
Speaker 6: It's weird.
Speaker 1: You know, you know what you're doing because this is
Speaker 1: gonna make everyone want to focus on that, and I
Speaker 1: just thought it was done.
Speaker 2: Oh that was a bad way.
Speaker 4: If you're trying to get away from it, if you're
Speaker 4: not really gonna openly address it, I had to. If
Speaker 4: you if you're not gonna address it then leave what
Speaker 4: if off so that we don't I.
Speaker 6: Love you again. I thought what he addressed there was perfect.
Speaker 2: Because he's mentally never gonna get over that moment. I'm
Speaker 2: telling you, I can hear it in them, and I
Speaker 2: knew that was gonna I'm like, when this all in
Speaker 2: my mind, I'm saying, when this all blows over, Cole
Speaker 2: is gonna look back on day be like n I
Speaker 2: fumbled that one. That was my opportunity to whoop ass
Speaker 2: and then and then and then right because this was
Speaker 2: something I noticed, because I was waiting to see this
Speaker 2: because everybody was like, nah, that's his man, No da
Speaker 2: da If Kendrick is his man, why he ain't got
Speaker 2: the Kendrick songs on the album?
Speaker 4: Oh I don't know if that's is Well what we
Speaker 4: all said that that would look corny. It would look corny,
Speaker 4: it would, But so what where I will agree backing
Speaker 4: out of the battle look corny?
Speaker 2: He did it. Who gives a fuck? Because people were saying, nah,
Speaker 2: that's his man. He ain't really want to go there
Speaker 2: with his men like that. Okay, no problem, that's his man,
Speaker 2: No problem, right, I understand, no problem. You don't want
Speaker 2: to get into it with your boy. Cool? Right, But
Speaker 2: how come them songs in on the album? Did Kendrick
Speaker 2: not clear the songs?
Speaker 1: I don't think hold one of them. I think he
Speaker 1: just we just we just we're just sitting here kicking
Speaker 1: the shit. Or maybe there's those songs maybe on there,
Speaker 1: but they just took Kendrick verse off.
Speaker 2: That could be okay.
Speaker 6: Why Kendrick Versus ain't on the album?
Speaker 2: I think I don't.
Speaker 1: I think the points that you brought up to me
Speaker 1: when I was arguing I would be fine with hearing
Speaker 1: them is the answer. I'm actually agreeing with what you
Speaker 1: said to me at that time. It was how crazy
Speaker 1: it would look.
Speaker 2: It would just it will probably sound dated too. It
Speaker 2: will sounddated.
Speaker 1: Here's my thing where I will agree with Maul is.
Speaker 1: I think this twenty nine was recorded more in off
Speaker 1: season cold time. That feels like off season cold to me.
Speaker 1: This thirty nine sounds like cold now, a little uninspired
Speaker 1: and maybe maybe a little timid, like I do see
Speaker 1: what maul is saying. And again I could be wrong
Speaker 1: and this could have been recorded yesterday for all I
Speaker 1: fucking know, but I can see the sheer difference between
Speaker 1: this twenty nine and this thirty nine with an inspired
Speaker 1: fucking rapper. I'm been a fan of this shit my
Speaker 1: entire life. I can hear that.
Speaker 6: Oh shit, all right, come on, that was funny. He
Speaker 6: almost sad.
Speaker 2: Damn word right there. He don't make this clay. He
Speaker 2: almost baby d We almost called him, hey, almost the
Speaker 2: greatest white mama. What he said on there, I felt seen. No,
Speaker 2: I feel like my personal ears. I can hear the
Speaker 2: difference on it too, And I feel like this twenty
Speaker 2: nine was the stuff that was when he was in
Speaker 2: a little different space, exactly what I was afraid that
Speaker 2: happened though? Did you like it? Did you like it
Speaker 2: more than you thought you would? No? Oh wow, I
Speaker 2: don't like it more than I thought I Wouldn't you
Speaker 2: don't like it at all? Not at all. There's some
Speaker 2: good moments on this album. It's some good moments. I'm
Speaker 2: not I'm not saying the album is trash.
Speaker 6: Too much. Could have condensed it.
Speaker 3: You say that we'll all double this. That aren't drinks,
Speaker 3: So that's not it's.
Speaker 6: That's tough to do.
Speaker 2: You gotta be a different your song making ability has
Speaker 2: to be different to carry double dish like that's just
Speaker 2: we can put that over there.
Speaker 6: Your song making ability has to be different. But good moments.
Speaker 2: Again, I'm never We don't even have to talk about
Speaker 2: bars and rapping. That's cemented just the production on some
Speaker 2: The hooks were lackless for me on most of the songs.
Speaker 2: And whatever hooks are good, it's a flip. It's a sample,
Speaker 2: it's a playoff of other songs that we already know
Speaker 2: and love. That's a cheat code, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: It's like, of course we loved that song. Of course niggas,
Speaker 2: we ain't gonna hate this hook. We love that fucking record.
Speaker 2: Did you feel excited when.
Speaker 3: You heard six Nicks Wild?
Speaker 2: Six Niggas Wild?
Speaker 4: Did you hear like did you get excited? Because that
Speaker 4: hyped me up? And when I first heard that, I
Speaker 4: actually thought the album was gonna sound a lot different
Speaker 4: than it did. I thought I was going to get
Speaker 4: about when I heard when the album opened like that.
Speaker 1: Again, apologies to all of vill I wasn't aware of
Speaker 1: with two six men because Cole has not really said
Speaker 1: two six I was confused when Drake said use six
Speaker 1: the first time, my man, I wouldn't want them to
Speaker 1: do the to do a forest steel things. Isn't Drake
Speaker 1: from Forest Hiels and he's from Forest Hills Drive make
Speaker 1: a Forest Hills record, and then added the action bronze
Speaker 1: into it, like I don't want to all the numbers
Speaker 1: to six, everyone just naming their city random shit out.
Speaker 6: Of nowhere, shout out to the three one five, y'all
Speaker 6: are the orangeman.
Speaker 4: I'm out in three one five real guys, seven real
Speaker 4: pies and all right, my bad.
Speaker 2: I want it, my bad. I'm sorry.
Speaker 6: Was that you were still good?
Speaker 2: That was me?
Speaker 4: That was off the bat, like I was just off
Speaker 4: the top. Well, you asked me if I like the
Speaker 4: album as a whole fan. I do like the album
Speaker 4: as a cole fan. There are a lot of songs
Speaker 4: that I could do without, but the songs that I
Speaker 4: can do with I love, So that makes a good
Speaker 4: album for me. If there's a couple of songs I
Speaker 4: can do without, maybe like five of them on a
Speaker 4: twenty twenty four album, I'm cool with that. I can
Speaker 4: do without five on an album full of twenty four,
Speaker 4: only five, only five, and.
Speaker 2: They would be.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, we'll got do that, but yeah I can.
Speaker 4: I can do it out about five of them.
Speaker 2: But I love it.
Speaker 4: I absolutely love this twenty nine. The five that I
Speaker 4: don't like the majority of them are on this thirty nine.
Speaker 4: But yeah, like I'm Rory said, he doesn't really fuck
Speaker 4: with Old Dog in life since I absolutely fucking love
Speaker 4: them absolutely, I don't.
Speaker 1: Skip an old Dog. I just I just think that
Speaker 1: that one could have been more of a bop. I
Speaker 1: think that shit could have hit a little different. He
Speaker 1: should have took some of your beats.
Speaker 2: No, I'm not saying that whatsoever.
Speaker 1: I said Cole t minds and these guys are geniuses
Speaker 1: with resources I don't have or deserve.
Speaker 2: Go go use I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't have a line on Mike Will when I
Speaker 1: need a base. Sometimes you just need some Mike Will shit.
Speaker 2: But that is my like.
Speaker 1: So sometimes you could make a beat and be like,
Speaker 1: which I've done him my shit. If you want to
Speaker 1: make that joke, I'll make a b Can someone redo this?
Speaker 1: That's way better at this than me. We're here trying
Speaker 1: to we're trying to get the best product, not to
Speaker 1: prove that I could do it by myself.
Speaker 3: Okay, I respect that. You know what this album is like,
Speaker 3: don't piss me off.
Speaker 2: It's like when the girl make you wait like eight
Speaker 2: summers to give you some pussy.
Speaker 3: I knew he was gonna piss me off.
Speaker 2: And then like they stink a little bit, but like
Speaker 2: it's not bad, it's not like you gotta let's just
Speaker 2: a little like and you found out she hit twenty
Speaker 2: four men that summer, Like that's what this is. Like
Speaker 2: you still hit.
Speaker 6: I'm still gonna hit.
Speaker 3: And it was on fire, but it just happened.
Speaker 2: It got a little, it got a little sense to it.
Speaker 2: Though it sounds like much red meat, Like she got
Speaker 2: too much red meat on our diet. You need to
Speaker 2: up the veggies, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: To hit again, everyone deserves second chances.
Speaker 2: I hit again, Everyone deserves another day.
Speaker 6: I would hit again. But but if it's if it's
Speaker 6: still at that same I'm cool.
Speaker 2: I'm off it. We ain't gonna keep doing that because
Speaker 2: I give you the past, like you know we was, you.
Speaker 4: Know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Maybe she didn't know we was gonna get into the moment.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, it's a little offer. Period
Speaker 2: might be coming fresh off of something, I don't know,
Speaker 2: spotting again diet.
Speaker 6: Might she might just you know, mean too much red meat.
Speaker 2: This month, but we're gonna give us some time to
Speaker 2: you know, up a water intake, veggie intake, fresh fruit intake,
Speaker 2: spin back and hopefully you know what I mean. Do
Speaker 2: you think this takes him out of.
Speaker 4: No, no to whatever you're about to say, Okay, take
Speaker 4: No matter what, the commonation of some of.
Speaker 1: The best, one of the greatest rappers that's ever lived,
Speaker 1: he's one of the businessocracy is still organizing making sure
Speaker 1: that changes nothing.
Speaker 2: I just again, Cole is one of them. Once personally,
Speaker 2: I'm just underwhelmed for a project that we waited for
Speaker 2: for almost ten years.
Speaker 4: And it's like, I also think I get you, and
Speaker 4: I also think that, Like I said this before it
Speaker 4: came out, I was talking to somebody.
Speaker 3: I was like, he was like, are you excited about that?
Speaker 4: I might say yeah, But at the same time, I
Speaker 4: know that no matter what, I'll be disappointed. And what
Speaker 4: I mean by that is when the anticipation is that tie,
Speaker 4: there's no way you need it. Very rarely does anybody
Speaker 4: meet when the anticipation is that tie, no matter who
Speaker 4: the artist is.
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess it was not I give what
Speaker 2: you said. Sometimes that if you'll fall short end of
Speaker 2: the anticipation, but to me, he felt way short of
Speaker 2: the anticipation. Who's ever been in this anticipation scenario? Yeah, this,
Speaker 2: like this is one of the most anticipated albums probably
Speaker 2: ever in rap.
Speaker 1: Because even with like off season was anticipated and the
Speaker 1: surprise and this and that, but like, it's a drastically
Speaker 1: different anticipation with everything that happened. So I don't even know,
Speaker 1: because he delivered on all the anticipation of his last album,
Speaker 1: but this is different as any other rapper been in.
Speaker 2: This.
Speaker 1: Like I thought Jay delivered on anticipation after Lemonade and
Speaker 1: Solange beating him up in the elevator and we got
Speaker 1: four forty four. I thought he delivered there, But I
Speaker 1: still don't think the stakes were as as.
Speaker 6: High as this. Oh this this again, This was again.
Speaker 1: I think it's this and this is an Iceman where
Speaker 1: the I can't think of another scenario where this.
Speaker 4: I don't even think that people are anticipating Iceman the
Speaker 4: way that people were anticipating this.
Speaker 2: I don't think. So.
Speaker 1: I think you're not think I think you're wrong, But
Speaker 1: they're anticipating in a different way. It's different, it's a
Speaker 1: different it's the same anticipation in a different way. Some
Speaker 1: people are a lot of people going in there can't
Speaker 1: wait to hate Iceman.
Speaker 2: Can wait.
Speaker 6: They're gonna set their alarm clock to make sure.
Speaker 2: They get the same. In a lot of ways, it's
Speaker 2: a lot of people that was anticipating this to hate
Speaker 2: or to love it again. He's giving us this title
Speaker 2: eight nine years ago.
Speaker 4: That's why I think that's where I say the anticipation
Speaker 4: because even before the moment of like the apology, people
Speaker 4: were anticipating in the fall off because it's been teased
Speaker 4: for so many years. That's why I'm like not comparing
Speaker 4: it to the Iceman because it's like, we get so
Speaker 4: much music from Drake, nobody's really anticipating a Drake album.
Speaker 4: We get a Drake album, dimn there every year. You
Speaker 4: see what I'm saying, Like this album' been waiting for
Speaker 4: for free you again?
Speaker 2: Everything after that though, coming off of twenty four, that's
Speaker 2: why anticipation for Iceman is where it's at because coming
Speaker 2: off of that, you know, whatever people want to say
Speaker 2: he lost that battle, knocked the creativity out of him,
Speaker 2: but that doesn't make sense because we got some sexy
Speaker 2: songs for you, and everybody loved that that's not rapped though, Okay,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Like, we know Drake could
Speaker 2: do that, and you can give us an R and
Speaker 2: B vibe a bop and his sleep. Now people want
Speaker 2: to hear him rap. They want to hear what he
Speaker 2: sounds like rapping coming out of that moment. So that's
Speaker 2: what that that why that anticipation is hot. But obviously, yeah,
Speaker 2: this the fall off. We've been hearing this.
Speaker 6: It's almost like the detox. This this little pump on
Speaker 6: kod and ended the album with the fall off.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like this is this is this was on that
Speaker 2: level of anticipation and again to me, it just fell short.
Speaker 2: But again, good moments on there, but overall it was
Speaker 2: just like I was under Like, I so a.
Speaker 6: Lot to digestment. It's a lot of rapids, it's a lot,
Speaker 6: that's a lot of rapping. But again, this is what
Speaker 6: he gave us. So this is what we gotta listen to.
Speaker 2: This is what we gotta dissect, this is what we
Speaker 2: gotta digest, this is what we gotta talk about because
Speaker 2: this is the product that he gave us. I'm just
Speaker 2: again underwhelmed because I was anticipating a much better overall project.
Speaker 1: And even to that point and we can close. But
Speaker 1: what he said at the end of I Love Her Again,
Speaker 1: of which I thought was like brilliantly brought together towards
Speaker 1: the end of hip Hop's i'thing like, Bro, you don't
Speaker 1: even listen to me anymore, Like what are you talking about?
Speaker 1: It's like I got kids, I got shit going on.
Speaker 1: I can't That is also how hard this has been
Speaker 1: a digest this weekend. It's twenty four record. At this age,
Speaker 1: I don't have the time to live and breathe it
Speaker 1: the way I did at discs twenty nine, Like it's funny.
Speaker 1: He even said that and put out a double disc
Speaker 1: like he's the same way he said, Bri got kids,
Speaker 1: I'm not. I don't listen to hip hop as much
Speaker 1: as I used to. He's got other shit going on.
Speaker 1: He'd just sit here for the whole weekend and.
Speaker 2: Do this shit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he said.
Speaker 1: I thought that was because I felt that way too,
Speaker 1: Like all all I used to do twenty four hours
Speaker 1: out of the fucking day is listen to music.
Speaker 6: I just don't do that as much as I used
Speaker 6: to do.
Speaker 4: When he said at first, I was defensive, bitch, listen,
Speaker 4: how you sound so many niggas fucked you now your
Speaker 4: pussy water down. But the more I thought about her cult,
Speaker 4: she was right. There was a time when she was
Speaker 4: on my phone day and night, singing songs to me
Speaker 4: that I had time or two. Some were kind of
Speaker 4: old and some we're kind of new. But you'll see
Speaker 4: how it's getting older, raising kids all that. Spending time
Speaker 4: and listening to her is hard to do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So, like, even though I did give this as
Speaker 1: much time as I could outside of us having the podcast, yes,
Speaker 1: it's tough to listen to a double disc at thirty
Speaker 1: with this level of rapping, Like, yeah, you have to
Speaker 1: digest this. It could take a month with my schedule.
Speaker 2: All right, So now is one as far as post
Speaker 2: beef album that we've didn't get? What do you mean, oh,
Speaker 2: just Drake, you're saying left?
Speaker 6: Yeah, we got the Cold album?
Speaker 2: Got gn X?
Speaker 3: Yeah, So are do you do you think GNX is
Speaker 3: better than?
Speaker 2: Well? Which one? Do you guys? Prefer?
Speaker 3: Gn X or this?
Speaker 2: They're not even this terrible? This one? It's better? Absolutely, okay,
Speaker 2: absolutely one thousand. I could listen to this way more, opinions,
Speaker 2: I could listen to this way more than I can
Speaker 2: listen to G and X.
Speaker 1: I've had over a year with gn X, so I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: and they're completely different, and they just both happen to.
Speaker 2: Have people rapping on them. They're completely different.
Speaker 4: I'm saying I could listen to this your preference, I
Speaker 4: would have to. I would have to agree. But that's
Speaker 4: just because gn X is very CALLI, very CALLI.
Speaker 6: That could be a two.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's very cally.
Speaker 6: But yeah, oh me, I could listen to this.
Speaker 1: But I do think even though you're right, there's we
Speaker 1: had G and X, we had this, I do think Kendrick's.
Speaker 2: Next album will roll over into this.
Speaker 1: Yes, gn X falls in that timeline, but everyone's still
Speaker 1: going to be looking at fall Off Iceman and then
Speaker 1: whatever Kendrick is dropping after that.
Speaker 6: Yes, so not gn X fall Off Iceman. I don't
Speaker 6: think that's how it's really going to be viewed by
Speaker 6: the anticipation with fans.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I get what Ory's saying. I think I think
Speaker 4: Kendrick's album after this is the one that people are
Speaker 4: really going, like.
Speaker 2: Really going to be focused because Cole and Drake dropped
Speaker 2: and then yeah, we want to see what Kendrick does
Speaker 2: and then after that, I mean, if we're still on
Speaker 2: the ship dog, I don't really know what still.
Speaker 4: Ye, people are going to be honest it to the
Speaker 4: end of time. But yeah, I do agree with you.
Speaker 4: Got Cole has always kind of had a song making ability.
Speaker 4: It is has always been his achilles if he because
Speaker 4: if he could make a song as good as like
Speaker 4: he can't make a song, don't get me wrong, but
Speaker 4: I mean if he had that that hook hit hook ability,
Speaker 4: Like how we said that Cole don't get played in
Speaker 4: the clubs. Like if he had that hook hit ability
Speaker 4: the way the other two had, I would it wouldn't
Speaker 4: be no conversation. I'm just being honest, it wouldn't be
Speaker 4: no conversation.
Speaker 1: Listeners and being objective here, Drake is over here when
Speaker 1: it comes to hooks, Like I don't even want to
Speaker 1: that's unfair to even put him in this conversation. I
Speaker 1: think Cole can rival Kendrick in hooks. I think y'all
Speaker 1: are forgetting some of Cole's catalog.
Speaker 3: I'm not forgetting.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 6: I don't know if if.
Speaker 2: Kendrick is light gears above Jake Cole items like making
Speaker 2: solo hooks.
Speaker 6: I think he is.
Speaker 3: I didn't say, light years, but he is significantly.
Speaker 6: Better at years.
Speaker 2: But I think I think Kendrick makes better songs he does.
Speaker 6: Oh no, no, I'm so.
Speaker 1: I thought we're having the hook conversation songs. Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean Kendrick is one of the better songs hookers. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's what I thought. We were talking just about specifically
Speaker 1: the hook, because we're not talking about the verses. I
Speaker 1: promise you we never talked about the verses. Well, versus
Speaker 1: verses don't have to do with the song. But what
Speaker 1: I'm saying is water down there lyrics to make better
Speaker 1: songs like that, Yeah, that happens, they do.
Speaker 4: But what I'm saying is when it comes to like
Speaker 4: hook and like the song, the ability to make a hit,
Speaker 4: a commercial hit, something that you're going to hear in
Speaker 4: the club, something that you're gonna hear in see or
Speaker 4: something that all of that, Kendrick is better at that
Speaker 4: than Called, significantly better at that than Called.
Speaker 2: And it might not be because Cold.
Speaker 4: It might because Cold just doesn't want to That might
Speaker 4: not be his bot.
Speaker 1: I'll be saying solo or like like, we cannot not
Speaker 1: credit fell with It's all right m hm. So I
Speaker 1: was saying solo solo. That's why I said leave Drake
Speaker 1: out of this, Like by himself, it's clear that he
Speaker 1: knows how to make fun can hooks and songs those
Speaker 1: two solo by themselves, no other person on the hook.
Speaker 1: I don't Again, I don't think it's that far apart
Speaker 1: as you guys are making it seem.
Speaker 6: Subjective.
Speaker 3: I think I think, I think that Kendrick is significantly
Speaker 3: I'm not saying.
Speaker 1: Playing ship in target whatever, like it's all right, is
Speaker 1: in a generational record, but let's not love the record.
Speaker 6: Let's don't even do it, don't do that to Canada.
Speaker 1: But let's not act like that's not Pharrell as well,
Speaker 1: Like I'm sure Andrew put together this and that I'm
Speaker 1: giving them all the credit, but that's also but what
Speaker 1: are some what are some of both.
Speaker 4: Of their big But okay, so so at the end
Speaker 4: of the day, yes it's Pharrell, but the same.
Speaker 6: Resource, don't save don't save her.
Speaker 2: The same resources.
Speaker 4: Let me talk the same resources that Kendrick has access to.
Speaker 4: And I'm not doing this to compare them, but we're
Speaker 4: talking about some of the greatest rappers. I'm only going
Speaker 4: to compare him to people who are worthy of him
Speaker 4: being compared to nothing has to do with the beef.
Speaker 4: If you're going to talk about resources, the same resources
Speaker 4: like Pharreal that Kendrick has access to, Cole has access
Speaker 4: to those same resources. So the ability to have this
Speaker 4: resource and know how to pick pick a beat, pick
Speaker 4: a hit, are you use people that are close to you? Yes,
Speaker 4: supercom So that is a talent thing. That's not a
Speaker 4: I would never disagree with you that. Okay, that a
Speaker 4: separate conversation.
Speaker 1: Yeahuse at that point, I even think he's done great
Speaker 1: with Cole's done great with Miguel and finally got that
Speaker 1: Achilles Hill. Often when he started to figure out how
Speaker 1: to make records with artists. I'm saying, just then, so.
Speaker 4: That was save it don't want to be saved, yes,
Speaker 4: but how long it is a fucking great hook?
Speaker 3: How long ago was that?
Speaker 2: Twenty fourteen?
Speaker 6: But he his focus was not to make target serious
Speaker 6: hits after Forest Hills.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's fine, but it doesn't even have to be targets.
Speaker 6: Nor was nor was I mean, mister Morale, Like, what
Speaker 6: what played?
Speaker 2: Mister?
Speaker 6: I think all of them just stopped trying to do that.
Speaker 2: Okay, my wrong.
Speaker 6: Rory might have been right about the walle A Cold Thing.
Speaker 3: You said that wile A is a better rapper than
Speaker 3: j Cole. I do not agree with that that.
Speaker 2: I do not agree with that, but I think A
Speaker 2: specializes on that too. I think that I think I
Speaker 2: think it's closer than I thought it was. Hm hm okay,
Speaker 2: well things closer enough thought Everything is a Lot it's
Speaker 2: better than this j co album.
Speaker 4: But again, I think that's a song making yeah issue,
Speaker 4: I think that's more about songs while is also rapping
Speaker 4: to though for sure as always.
Speaker 2: Because I thought about that when I listened to Like,
Speaker 2: I thought about what Rory said, and I kind of
Speaker 2: like my knee jerk reaction was like what I Sayen
Speaker 2: a Lot, it might be closer than I thought it was.
Speaker 2: Wile is different, bro, it might it might, it might
Speaker 2: be closer than I thought.
Speaker 6: I didn't want to do the comparison thing on Everything
Speaker 6: a Lot is incredible.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, I'm not. I hate to compare, but I'm
Speaker 2: just saying, like albums that we got this year, I'm
Speaker 2: just listening, yeah, for sure, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: I remember how much I enjoyed listening to Everything is
Speaker 2: a Lot, and I'm just like he was rapping on
Speaker 2: that songs was dope, production was dope. Wiley to me,
Speaker 2: as far as lyricists is one of my favorite song
Speaker 2: makers period. It's just a lot of close. I'm not
Speaker 2: gonna say he raps better than Cold. It's a lot
Speaker 2: closer than I thought it was, because I mean, by
Speaker 2: gave Rory shit about that when he first said that,
Speaker 2: I was kind of like, you trip, you're saying a
Speaker 2: lot they're different.
Speaker 6: It might be close.
Speaker 4: While they can rap his ass, I wish more people
Speaker 4: knew just how much he can rap his ass off.
Speaker 2: I don't agree with you.
Speaker 1: He can rap his as, he could make hooks, he
Speaker 1: could make bridges, he could make melodies.
Speaker 2: Well, we always knew while it was dope. But I'm
Speaker 2: just saying like, and listening will tell you that he
Speaker 2: could do Yeah, while they will not be shy about
Speaker 2: telling you how dope if you didn't know, But yeah,
Speaker 2: after listening to this cold joint and then you know
Speaker 2: coming off everything is a lot. Yeah, it might be
Speaker 2: closer than I thought. That's all so I got to
Speaker 2: give you. I'm not gonna give you flowers, Roy, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna just give you divis. That's what you said, one
Speaker 2: day I'll give you the vase, and one day I'll get.
Speaker 1: Some flowers die anyways, may be replaced to another flower
Speaker 1: is vase of os It's it could be like data
Speaker 1: and data. It's like it's either New England Versusary everga
Speaker 1: got it, Yeah, however you put it there.
Speaker 2: Well, I think we did a pretty fair breakdown. Honestly,
Speaker 2: I was a little scared. I think that it's gonna
Speaker 2: be working.
Speaker 4: No, when I was, I was a little scared coming
Speaker 4: into work because I thought I was. I literally thought
Speaker 4: I was gonna have to fight more like I thought
Speaker 4: I was gonna.
Speaker 2: Have to give you. Why do you think you why
Speaker 2: because you'd be making you'll be saying some ship sometimes.
Speaker 4: But I think that your breakdown of the album was
Speaker 4: very objective, very fair, and I think.
Speaker 2: A lot of people with the ind then that says,
Speaker 2: I do not hate J Cole. I know they try
Speaker 2: to paint it like I hate Cole because I don't
Speaker 2: man like only P does.
Speaker 6: By the clips, I just I don't hate J Cole.
Speaker 6: I'm a jake.
Speaker 2: I argued with niggas in the barber shop about J
Speaker 2: Cole before, like y'all bug it. This niggas nice. I
Speaker 2: fucked with j Cole. I just didn't like his decision
Speaker 2: and what happened. But that's you know whatever. But it
Speaker 2: is water under the bridge.
Speaker 4: But I think that I think that everybody gave an
Speaker 4: objective fair and a lot I think a lot of
Speaker 4: people echo our sentiment. So I want to say shout
Speaker 4: out to us because and and.
Speaker 1: To close, uh per usual Eve and call you guys
Speaker 1: do the best marketing I've ever seen.
Speaker 3: You know what, Cole, if you're listening, you're not listen
Speaker 3: to listen.
Speaker 6: Oh no, he listened. He listens to this. He listening.
Speaker 2: I can't joke the problem. Nobody can't joke no more.
Speaker 2: Man death.
Speaker 1: The podcast was when we could, Cole, I love you.
Speaker 1: Every word we say has to be around.
Speaker 3: Appreciate, We appreciate.
Speaker 6: We'll say, oh, thank you this podcast.
Speaker 3: This if this was your last album, like hey, with.
Speaker 2: My camera, Hey, Cole, let me tell you what this
Speaker 2: better than not be it better not be your last album.
Speaker 2: You cannot go out like this. Ain't no fucking way.
Speaker 2: He can't.
Speaker 1: This ain't his last album, no way. And he kind
Speaker 1: of alluded to it, like my lawless twenty four tracks.
Speaker 1: This still would not be his I don't believe this last.
Speaker 6: This ain't his last.
Speaker 3: If this is your last project, I just want to
Speaker 3: say thank you for this is your.
Speaker 2: Last album, lost you, I swept in the finals. You
Speaker 2: cannot go out like this. Fuck it, I said it,
Speaker 2: and I fuck with Cold. But that's why I can
Speaker 2: say what I say because I funk with him. You
Speaker 2: can't go out like this, he said, no, you don't
Speaker 2: you think with Cold?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 2: That's the problem. I feel like if you funk with somebody,
Speaker 2: you can only say good things like why you can't
Speaker 2: just be real?
Speaker 4: I'm not friend. I'm gonna let you know, like, Bro,
Speaker 4: that wasn't it? Go back in there, cook up that ship,
Speaker 4: all right?
Speaker 2: Cole?
Speaker 4: If this, if this is your last album, I want
Speaker 4: to say thank you so much for everything that you
Speaker 4: have given us over the course of your.
Speaker 2: Okay, But if it is, you're giving talk, give an obituary.
Speaker 2: This is not his last album. I promise you, this
Speaker 2: is not. I hate it here. He got way too
Speaker 2: much more shit to talk about, way too much more
Speaker 2: suit to talk about in his last album.
Speaker 4: I would like for you to release more songs about
Speaker 4: being an avoidant commitment fold because Legacy is perfect. Everyone
Speaker 4: like to hear him talk about more being an avoidant
Speaker 4: commitment fold like those songs like Legacy, like you know,
Speaker 4: I really want to be in love with you, but
Speaker 4: like the holes, but like I'm gonna hit you up
Speaker 4: after the fall though like that. I need more more
Speaker 4: cold songs like that. People to send me at three
Speaker 4: o'clock in the morning. You know how that be type ship?
Speaker 4: But thank you Cold, thank you so much, and you
Speaker 4: say to.
Speaker 6: What to cold?
Speaker 2: I look forward to the next album. Same, I look
Speaker 2: forward to the next one. This ain't the last one.
Speaker 2: I would like a fall off hoodie. If anyone from
Speaker 2: dream Ville is listening.
Speaker 6: Why don't you going go on the website?
Speaker 2: Dann got them? I don't.
Speaker 4: I didn't know they were for sale. I just saw
Speaker 4: the influencers getting a lot of the influencers got them
Speaker 4: like they were sent. It was like special merch that
Speaker 4: was sent.
Speaker 2: That's what I was. They probably got it early, but
Speaker 2: I'm sure that's they're gonna s I didn't know.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'll go buy what never mine?
Speaker 6: Yeah, all right, well.
Speaker 2: Now we wait ride my bike to go get one
Speaker 2: over there.
Speaker 3: Almost started a fire as she has hands.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, man, do you have a release date
Speaker 2: for us? Since you damned their guest this one?
Speaker 1: I said the release date, I said, Iceman this Friday.
Speaker 1: What mam said when you said he laughed at me?
Speaker 6: Iceman this Friday.
Speaker 4: Do you guys have any comments about the drake leak?
Speaker 4: I didn't mean to do my hands like that about
Speaker 4: the drake leak on the day of the fall Off release.
Speaker 6: I didn't hear it. But whatever it is, it ain't
Speaker 6: on Iceman. I can tell you that.
Speaker 2: It's just the always he said. You heard it here first.
Speaker 2: None of what y'all are hearing on the internet is
Speaker 2: on Iceman. I can promise you that it's not none
Speaker 2: of that ship and we'll find out on Friday.
Speaker 3: The album is not coming on Friday.
Speaker 2: Hell no, I don't think Iceman is coming on Friday.
Speaker 2: All right, Well, we wait and see whole world Iceman.
Speaker 2: How much? All right? How much time do you think
Speaker 2: or what in between of the album that he's gonna
Speaker 2: let the code shit breathe.
Speaker 6: Or I know when the album is coming out? Of
Speaker 6: course I'm not saying it, but I know.
Speaker 1: You're not gonna say it, and you haven't told me anything.
Speaker 1: I guess I'm trying to like get is it gonna
Speaker 1: be a long time or is it gonna kind of
Speaker 1: be a good time. It may cost you a little,
Speaker 1: it may cost you a lot, but it will cost
Speaker 1: you It's.
Speaker 6: Gonna be a good time.
Speaker 2: Rory. That's all. That's all we need to know. Man,
Speaker 2: everybody listen, man, enjoy, do some.
Speaker 6: Col shit and drive my mother's Masda up to Toronto
Speaker 6: for the release.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 6: It's a fun drive. I don't know if the Masia
Speaker 6: make it.
Speaker 1: You've never done the Toronto Drive? Have I ever done
Speaker 1: the Montreal one? That's a different of course, I've done
Speaker 1: in Toronto drive.
Speaker 6: Toronto's this way. Montreal is straight up.
Speaker 2: I've done the Toronto Drive.
Speaker 6: That's a fun drive.
Speaker 2: It is.
Speaker 4: Drive up.
Speaker 6: Doesn't want to pack up in the no But enjoy
Speaker 6: the Cope album. Enjoyed that.
Speaker 2: Let's enjoy that album. Shout out to Don Tolliver. Incredible project,
Speaker 2: that octane album. Don Tolliver. Hey, listen, man, I'm a
Speaker 2: go ahead and say it, Don Toliver us better than
Speaker 2: Playboy CARDI you heard it here first speech clip it
Speaker 2: I agree. I think are trying to tell me Playboy
Speaker 2: Cartier is. I think that's who Dante push back here.
Speaker 2: I've seen him go on and perform before Bad Bunny
Speaker 2: in front of I don't know how many thousands of
Speaker 2: people and tore that ship down. This octane album add
Speaker 2: to the discography of Don Tolliver. I don't think he's
Speaker 2: missing this discography yet. This album is just Don Tolliver
Speaker 2: album is crazy.
Speaker 6: I gotta listen. I also have to listen to the
Speaker 6: Lama album.
Speaker 2: Yesal no Shade to Playboy Cardi, but I think that
Speaker 2: how they were trying to sell me on Cardi and
Speaker 2: I can't really like get it, Like, I don't understand it.
Speaker 6: I think that's who Donte.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'll say shade like, I don't even think
Speaker 2: it's comparable as far as talent level.
Speaker 4: But that's just me and may be trying to say
Speaker 4: this because we old niggas, but I don't think so,
Speaker 4: because when they put me on the NBA Young Boy,
Speaker 4: I'm like, nah, I get why y'all like this young boy.
Speaker 4: I still don't get.
Speaker 2: That Shorty sent me. I'll be in the I know
Speaker 2: the neighbors is like, yo, who is who lived there?
Speaker 2: Because I'll be in there playing that ship. I'll be
Speaker 2: playing me a young boy, like I'm a young boy,
Speaker 2: wouldn't be a younger. But yeah, that down to all
Speaker 2: our teane. I'm right, that's that's That album is incredible.
Speaker 6: I love that project.
Speaker 1: And we can close shout out to Brittany Runner. She's
Speaker 1: now a Christian. Yeah, but what episode?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 4: I be liking my niggas too, Like if I had to,
Speaker 4: if I sucked around ran into a Muslim, I might Moslim.
Speaker 6: I love that.
Speaker 4: I might you a Muslim, now I might, I might covert,
Speaker 4: Like I'll be liking my niggas.
Speaker 2: Too, So if you were a Muslim, you have to
Speaker 2: you have to what she did and then she left
Speaker 2: mm hmm a baton rouge legend and then became Christian.
Speaker 2: Whatever the she's with. Yeah, I love it, man, Just
Speaker 2: let love live. Let love Jesus.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna let love die. Nah nah not, I I'm
Speaker 3: staying around. Let love fly.
Speaker 2: There you go, you know what I'm saying. That's it
Speaker 2: right there, that's the clo. I'm not nigga, He's just
Speaker 2: ginger peace. No Worrian no,