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Speaker 1: he does on the field, but then when you get

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00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,399
Speaker 1: to find out more about the young man and what

432
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:44,879
Speaker 1: he can bring to you, I think that was the

433
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:49,000
Speaker 1: most attractive thing. Mike is fair to say you feel

434
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:52,280
Speaker 1: comfortable you're about the quarterbackers on your roster right now?

435
00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,480
Speaker 1: I mean definitely. I mean, here's definitely compete for that.

436
00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:57,879
Speaker 1: I remember're gonna have a good competition and you know,

437
00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:02,080
Speaker 1: and just answer the question, you know, the same way

438
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,000
Speaker 1: every time it's been ass I mean, you know we'll

439
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 1: still you still looked upgrade positions. You know, we're just

440
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,399
Speaker 1: going through all the numbers before we came down there.

441
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,960
Speaker 1: So but we have good competition there well. As a

442
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,200
Speaker 1: personnel guy, when you came into this draft, is there

443
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 1: one particular player to say who I'd love to get

444
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 1: him if the board fell that way? Thank you. I'd

445
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,160
Speaker 1: love to get a lot of them may if they fit.

446
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,440
Speaker 1: I think it was great that Michael Parsons was there

447
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,480
Speaker 1: and at each round there were guys that were there

448
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:32,600
Speaker 1: for us to choose from and disgust and see how

449
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 1: they could fit what we were trying to do and

450
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 1: if they could improve us. But there were I mean

451
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 1: Michael Parsons being there when the corners left. It was

452
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 1: also a very that was a big thing. We all

453
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 1: looked at each other and said, there's a difference maker,

454
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:48,959
Speaker 1: Jibro Fox. It seemed like someone that you guys had

455
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 1: much higher on your board than when you were able

456
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,639
Speaker 1: to take them. Is he someone that given that you

457
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,959
Speaker 1: had taken Michael Parsons, you're not taken Parsons. You may

458
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,639
Speaker 1: have gone in drafting Cox earlier Monday, two act is

459
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,879
Speaker 1: quite how it works. That's not quite how it works.

460
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,200
Speaker 1: I mean you take them as they come. We discussed

461
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 1: where they should go. We we know the guys that

462
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 1: we like, and it was great that Cox was there

463
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 1: when we picked today. I think what's interesting for me

464
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:26,640
Speaker 1: is Cox as well as Right, I mean yep, right.

465
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 1: And we had seven or six players that when we

466
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 1: made the right pick that we were debating whether to

467
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 1: pick that player or to pick that player. And what

468
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 1: ended up happening is we ended up getting four of

469
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 1: the six that we were talking about at that time.

470
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,239
Speaker 1: I think that that's my numbers are correct. Don't let

471
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:58,200
Speaker 1: me exaggerate. But the point is that it really didn't

472
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 1: make any difference whether it took the one that might

473
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,479
Speaker 1: have been a little early or the one that actually

474
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 1: might have been a little late. If you sit there

475
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,159
Speaker 1: and look at how we got the four players that

476
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,399
Speaker 1: we wanted at that particular time, if we could have

477
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:16,880
Speaker 1: had all the pics and average at out, and you've

478
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,680
Speaker 1: got your value that you're sitting there talking about. But

479
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:24,920
Speaker 1: so it was real interesting as to whether or not Joseph,

480
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 1: for instance, I said, right, I'm in Joseph, and no

481
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 1: I'm talking about right. I'm sorry, but right, But it

482
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 1: was real interesting. I saw where will it is a

483
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:38,879
Speaker 1: little high. Okay, well you're going down a Runcox is

484
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:43,200
Speaker 1: a little low. We got it averages out when you're

485
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 1: sitting there staying with your board. And again, that's why

486
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 1: we wanted to approach this with you guys tonight is

487
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 1: say that way. I think that's the story of the draft. Well,

488
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 1: that's the Jerry's point. Is there any more unfadability in

489
00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:00,480
Speaker 1: this trop that's the terms of guys again earning any

490
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 1: expects Because we talk about the lack of the challenge process,

491
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 1: it's the lack of it was a lack of information.

492
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 1: It was everybody's building their own you know, their own

493
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 1: board or the places that you got your information from

494
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:18,439
Speaker 1: kind of set the stage. I mean typically scouts and organizations,

495
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,119
Speaker 1: they are all on the road together. There's kind of

496
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 1: a pack mentality here. It's who did the work, how

497
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 1: you did the work, and how you valued the players

498
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 1: and valued the players for your team. When you put

499
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 1: together boards, you put it together for your team, not

500
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:34,479
Speaker 1: everybody else's team. And so we were more concentrated on

501
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 1: that because of our approach that we had to take.

502
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:37,920
Speaker 1: Because we weren't out on the road, we spend a

503
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 1: lot more time watching tape. We spend a lot more

504
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,920
Speaker 1: time talking to each other about guys throughout the process.

505
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 1: Typically when you're on the road, I don't hear from you,

506
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 1: but from once a week. When you're in house, we

507
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 1: talk about things every day. So it's avoided a group

508
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 1: thing in some restructs on the road with In my opinion, yes,

509
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 1: I think there's there's a part of it. It's you know,

510
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 1: when you're traveling to pack and every body sees it.

511
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 1: You know, you guys are here all the time. You

512
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 1: hear the same things. You might think a little bit alike.

513
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 1: But now when you're separate, you formulate your own opinions

514
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 1: and decide for yourself. And that's what we were able

515
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:15,120
Speaker 1: to do more was put our inferences on without the

516
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 1: outside influences. What may you know, what you may hear

517
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 1: or may not. We decided by what we saw. We

518
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 1: didn't let anything outside of that influences. What Jerry was

519
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 1: saying earlier too, when you have more of a group think,

520
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,439
Speaker 1: you can say, Okay, well we need to take this

521
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 1: guy here because he's less likely to be here six

522
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 1: weeks later. You didn't really have that conversation this time

523
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 1: because everyone built their boards differently, and you were yes,

524
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 1: And we were confident in the guys that we put

525
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 1: in the value that we put on players, and that's

526
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 1: why you follow the board and you get the players

527
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 1: that you like at the value that you can get

528
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 1: them at. You guys, certainly it's been a lot of

529
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 1: time defense players that have travel well, you focus on

530
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 1: off of the players can undreft the FRETA see, I

531
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 1: see you've maybe and like three or four receivers already

532
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 1: with Ash from Tech's PA Eagles, a kid from our

533
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 1: I think when you build your roster. You look at

534
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 1: what you got in the draft, and then what other

535
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 1: holes do you have to fill and how do you

536
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 1: fill them? So that's why the you know, the free

537
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 1: agency approach worked that way. But our board wasn't just

538
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 1: defensive players. It was offensive and defensive players. And then

539
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 1: when it came down time to make a decision, we

540
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 1: talked about them all and then Jerry made a decision.

541
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 1: But this is a guy that we want to fit

542
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 1: for what we're trying to build. Mike is Ball a

543
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 1: left tackle in your eyes? Or is he a guy

544
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 1: that a right tackle that good place I left and needed.

545
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 1: I feel he has left tackle traits. I mean, that's

546
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 1: that's where he'll start. But that's just clearly that what's

547
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 1: why he was so attractive to us, particularly at that point. So, um,

548
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 1: we're gonna start a left tackle. Hopefully he can be

549
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 1: a swing tackle because and once again, when you get

550
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 1: to the fifty three, it's not the next challenge is

551
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 1: how does the player get up on the forty eight.

552
00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 1: So um, if the swing tackle is obviously very important

553
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 1: in the eight offensive lineman that you keep up on

554
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 1: on game day, but the players you drafted, which you

555
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 1: participate will be immediate contributors on special teams. The one

556
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 1: thought Ball supposed to police to get his hands on

557
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 1: women's right. I mean, I don't know who wouldn't. Frankly,

558
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 1: you know, I think I think anytime you go through

559
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 1: you'll start in the rookie of minicamp. I mean, there'll

560
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 1: be the vehicle for for rookies to make it onto

561
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,959
Speaker 1: the fifty three Special teams is a big part of it,

562
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 1: you know. But I'm much better this team now than

563
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 1: was the seas. Oh. I think we've we has Stephen

564
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 1: said two or three days ago. We earned it, we

565
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:47,959
Speaker 1: got we started with a high point in the draft.

566
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 1: We were up there pretty high. Now I think we

567
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 1: have maximized the fairly well and gotten the most out

568
00:30:56,440 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 1: of being that high and being having those numbers of picks,

569
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 1: for instance, in the top hundred, where I would be

570
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 1: disappointed if we, for instance, didn't take advantage of where

571
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 1: we are. I know that every person sitting at this

572
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 1: table was thoroughly involved in the nuances of the information

573
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 1: we were looking at, and the debate that went on

574
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 1: in the information that we were doing it, and the

575
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 1: moving around of where these guys were relative to each other.

576
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 1: That went on, which went on, and so this has

577
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 1: got some art to it. Really, when it comes to

578
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 1: putting these guys across the board, you've got to have

579
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 1: your coaches and where they have thought you are as talents.

580
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 1: You've got to have your guys that understand your talent

581
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 1: and have been around it for years, and we have

582
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 1: that in our pro scouting as well as our college scouting.

583
00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 1: You've got to you literally have, to my mind, you

584
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 1: have to understand what where you may be financially thirty

585
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 1: six months from now, where you may be in a

586
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 1: given part of your team thirty six months from now,

587
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 1: or of what might influence you to change that if

588
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 1: you've gone down the wrong road, that you might want

589
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 1: to change it. As we are so fortunate. I don't

590
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 1: want to embarrass him, but Stephen enjoys such a unique background,

591
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 1: and he really does understand how being in a meeting

592
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 1: talking about PEPSI or doctor Pepper, how that puts somebody

593
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 1: in the end zone for us. But he understands in

594
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 1: between there the how you got to look around corners

595
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 1: and you've got to look ahead. And he obviously understands

596
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 1: the makeup of football players and what goes on when

597
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 1: we take a player that might have a ding character

598
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:05,719
Speaker 1: wise all that's going on there, so all of those

599
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 1: things and believe it or a lot that has had

600
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 1: some bearing by what goes up on that board. And

601
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 1: so this h when you're sitting in my shoes, you're

602
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 1: fortunate to have the kind of people that are helping

603
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 1: make these decisions. And the end of the day, we

604
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 1: really only know that God knows. I've never met anybody

605
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 1: that really knows where they ought to be on this chart,

606
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 1: that really knows it where they ought to be. So

607
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 1: this group is had had a really good the last

608
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 1: few days and a big weekend. Stephen, were are you

609
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 1: guys with the vandress decision that needs to be made.

610
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 1: We've been so focused on the draft. Well, obviously get

611
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 1: our hands around that in short order. Thank you guys.

612
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 1: Let me bring coach Quinn over here just so you

613
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 1: got to get the meeting and talked to him a

614
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:02,479
Speaker 1: little bit. I did you packing up