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Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, welcome back to bed for Happy Hour. I'm

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Speaker 1: Joe and I'm Serena and we are here with our

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Speaker 1: guest today, Sam. And can I call you Sammy? Do

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Speaker 1: you has anybody call you Sammy? Sam?

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Speaker 2: Uh? My real name is actually Somon. You can call

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Speaker 2: me soon if you want. Okay, So, if you guys

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Speaker 2: need more of the rings character Sarmon, just instead the

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Speaker 2: same with an RC with an M.

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Speaker 3: Yeah you're Persian correct, Yes, okay, yeah, because it is

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Speaker 3: very difficult between you because you there is a Sam

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Speaker 3: N and a Sam M.

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Speaker 4: Yes, which it's not uncommon to have, you know, people

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Speaker 4: on the season with the same name, like I was

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Speaker 4: Serena P and then there was Serena C.

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Speaker 5: Actually quite quite a similar situation.

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Speaker 4: But we were saying, it's so hard because you were

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Speaker 4: talking a lot about obviously you and the other Sam

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Speaker 4: from this last episode.

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Speaker 5: And it just sounds so similar. Sam M versus Sam N.

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Speaker 2: Total juxtaposition of each other.

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Speaker 5: You're so different, you be more different.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he was a first impression. I was last

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Speaker 2: on hair blue eyes. I got black hair, brown eyes.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm just kidding, but.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, truly, you look different in your personality different,

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Speaker 4: but your names. Unfortunately for us and recaving this episode

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Speaker 4: sounds so similar.

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Speaker 1: I actually want to get into a little bit of

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Speaker 1: your your relationship with the other Sam, but I was

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Speaker 1: before we do. Let's get into a little bit about

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Speaker 1: your background, where you're from, where you live now, and

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Speaker 1: how you got on the show.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so a little bit about my background is so

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Speaker 2: like what I do for work is I started a

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Speaker 2: private aqui firm I was nineteen that building skills automotive shops.

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Speaker 2: I started in smart shops. So if you live in California,

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Speaker 2: that's what it was like my niche I lived at

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Speaker 2: home when I was nineteen. I was raised from a

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Speaker 2: traditional Persian household, so like growing up, I education was

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Speaker 2: like a huge emphasis in my in my family. So

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Speaker 2: I kind of focused on that through high school and

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Speaker 2: then I didn't really, I guess, get into any university

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Speaker 2: I really want to go into. And my passions kind

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Speaker 2: of alert to like more into like going into business.

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Speaker 2: So I started my business.

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Speaker 1: Do you still have do you still have the private

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Speaker 1: equity company?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's what I'm asking. So I'm a little

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Speaker 2: bit more absentee now. So essentially for me, I went

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Speaker 2: back to school for my family, Like yeah, no, it's

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Speaker 2: it's it's day today, It's it's it's brick and mortar.

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Speaker 2: So they they're kind of like just kind of steady

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Speaker 1: Okay, what wait what what? What is? What do you

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Speaker 1: invest in when you invest in this company?

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Speaker 2: No, so I bootstrapped, so I started to So basically

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Speaker 2: I started first my first business in my first shop

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Speaker 2: is a small station. So if you guys live in California,

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Speaker 2: it's essentially it's a way for you to reach your

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Speaker 2: like you get your vehicle like emissions checked. And then

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Speaker 2: basically because I was in a tech or a mechanic

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Speaker 2: like my advance, it's like my my backgrounds, I'm technical, right,

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Speaker 2: so and I lived at homes, It's very easy for

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Speaker 2: me to scale. So I ended up just finding like

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Speaker 2: units all around southern California and is building them out

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Speaker 2: and then basically tracting customers from that. And I guess

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Speaker 2: like to kind of go into it because I've never

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Speaker 2: had a relationship till jen. To be honest, I.

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Speaker 1: Never had not in not like elementary school, high school.

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Speaker 5: Elementary school, I had what.

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Speaker 2: You call a Persian glow up. So for me, I

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Speaker 2: never had female attention until I was like about twenty

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Speaker 2: two twenty three. It's the reason why I gone to business.

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Speaker 2: And like I guess, I don't want to say I

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Speaker 2: was marginalized. I grew up in Carlsbad, which is a

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Speaker 2: predominantly like surfer like like type of demographic. Right, it's

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Speaker 2: the best way to describe it. And I was always

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Speaker 2: kind of a misfit in an introvert. It is the

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Speaker 2: best way to describe it. Where I'm a huge cliche,

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Speaker 2: loved watching movie growing up. I love playing video games,

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Speaker 2: and then pretty much that was kind of high school

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Speaker 2: that I was like my high school. I never I

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Speaker 2: never went to prom. I didn't do It's not like

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Speaker 2: I didn't want to. It was just one of those

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Speaker 2: things where I just never had that to let's say,

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Speaker 2: I didn't even how to hold your hand at a

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Speaker 2: it's just Uh. Yeah, So I didn't have that in

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Speaker 2: high school, and then I wanted because I wanted that, right,

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Speaker 2: I always wanted to be in a relationship or have

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Speaker 2: a partner that supported me. That's where I was like,

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Speaker 2: you know what, I won't let me focus on like

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Speaker 2: education and work, right, let me build something out of

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Speaker 2: myself so I can become someone. Right.

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Speaker 5: I have a question.

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Speaker 4: So you said that you grew up in a traditional

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Speaker 4: Persian household, and obviously education is very important. What was

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Speaker 4: the expectation from your family maybe on what your relationship

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Speaker 4: life would look like. Obviously you found a lot of

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Speaker 4: success in your career and you know your education, so

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Speaker 4: I'm sure they're very proud and satisfied in that aspect

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Speaker 4: of your life.

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Speaker 5: Was there any pressure to like find a wife and

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Speaker 2: No, because I guess yes as I'm getting older. But

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Speaker 2: my brother, so I'm an older brother, he he married

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Speaker 2: two years ago, his first girlfriend. And I know there's

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Speaker 2: an emphasis on this where I never thought about this

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Speaker 2: previously as well, like this puts a lot of pressure

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Speaker 2: on both of us or on the person, like saying

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Speaker 2: that's first girlfriend you want to marry. But that's just

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Speaker 2: something I personally like like but once he married and

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Speaker 2: like the whole getting kids in aspect, it's kind of

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Speaker 2: parents are always just wondering, like when is it going

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Speaker 2: to happen? You know, they're like is he even like

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Speaker 2: does he even like girls as a yoke? But like

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Speaker 2: it's just because it's just one of those things where yeah,

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Speaker 2: they really they're actually very supportive. Be coming onto the show.

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Speaker 5: I was gonna ask that nuptive.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. They My dad's extremely supportive and both of my

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Speaker 2: parents are extremely supportive, and they both just want they

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Speaker 4: And yeah, so how do you think then, of the

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Speaker 4: term love virgin that's now been I mean you kind

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Speaker 4: of coined it for yourself.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's what I was going to get into

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Speaker 1: because somebody, you know, you're a love virgin. You're very

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Speaker 1: green to just relationships in general, and not really having

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Speaker 1: any experience in that field. What made you want to

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Speaker 1: go on a show like The Bachelorette where it is

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Speaker 1: about dating and not only is it about dating, Like

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Speaker 1: millions of people are going to watch your journey, your.

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Speaker 5: Journey of dating like for the first time too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought it's exactly that, right for me. I

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Speaker 2: opportunity where there's no more excuses, right, this is the

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Speaker 2: first time my life were because I don't know, right,

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Speaker 2: I didn't know how to navigate. I don't know how

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Speaker 2: to like like open up or become like just have

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Speaker 2: become robotic stille, right, and I don't know how to

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Speaker 2: get past that where I'm extremely emotional but I might

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Speaker 2: come off with stoic in moments. But I thought it

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Speaker 2: have to date a beautiful girl, go on phenomenal dates

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Speaker 2: that I won't have to like think about like, you know,

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Speaker 2: sending this place up or sending this thing up. It

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Speaker 2: would be a chance for me to actually like find

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Speaker 2: love and no work. So I excuse this is truly

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Speaker 2: a moment where I was like, let me make this happen,

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Speaker 2: you know, And then obviously the term love version where

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Speaker 2: I see like both ends, right, It just depends on

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Speaker 2: you view it like class app full or half empty.

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Speaker 2: I was being here from a perspective of like like

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Speaker 2: out on the table because you don't have so many

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Speaker 2: moments with her. Right. I didn't want to say YO

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Speaker 2: have a dog named Wagny in the beginning, right, because

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Speaker 2: these are my values where I come from. This is

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Speaker 2: what I'm looking for. I'm really looking forward to find

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Speaker 2: a relationship, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: That's so interesting because you describe yourself as someone that's

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Speaker 4: very laser focused on what's like their goal at the time. Right,

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Speaker 4: Like you said you were all in on your business,

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Speaker 4: and that is kind of like one of the reasons

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Speaker 4: much as it's unique that you're going on a dating

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Speaker 4: show having never dated any not dat, I've never had

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Speaker 2: No, I never dated either.

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Speaker 5: To be honest, I never dated that. Okay, So like

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Speaker 5: you're very very great.

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Speaker 1: Can I ask you a question. I don't want to

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Speaker 1: offend you. But of course you're a love virgin, are you?

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Speaker 1: Are you a virgin as well?

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Speaker 2: No? No, no, no, So so I've obviously had relations

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Speaker 2: with like like so for dating itself, I've never like

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Speaker 2: went past uh like it was always like a dinner

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Speaker 2: or coffee or at lunch, right, Okay, it's like really

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Speaker 2: treating that as a date. I think it's always more

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Speaker 2: of an intro and meet and greet. I've never done

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Speaker 2: or picnic or something like that's actually romantic in my eyes,

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Speaker 2: you know that.

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Speaker 4: So it's a lot of like first maybe second dates

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Speaker 4: that like getting to know each other. But you've never

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Speaker 4: been like dating where you're really investing in one person.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, you know, and then like uh exactly.

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Speaker 1: So then when you but like hook but you've hooked

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Speaker 1: up with girls, so yeah, because you go to bars

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Speaker 1: and like like hearing okay, so you do, Okay, so.

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Speaker 2: You're not like not it's it for me like I've

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Speaker 2: tried to uh like obviously, like right now I'm in

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Speaker 2: my parents' home right side of place in La all

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Speaker 2: this stuff, so obviously like like getting with girls here

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Speaker 2: and there, But for me, there was no like I

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Speaker 2: always felt guilty, right, is the best way to describe it.

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Speaker 2: I always felt guilty posting any of that stuff because

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Speaker 2: there was no connection or no like, it was just

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Speaker 2: pure lust, right, And then for me, I didn't like

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Speaker 2: that just and that's why I like, I don't know,

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Speaker 2: it's like it's not anything like more than that, it's just.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, right, what you're craving is the connection component, which

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Speaker 4: is how you found yourself on the Bachelor.

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Speaker 1: Do you think do you think that was do you

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Speaker 1: think you just never met the right person or do

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Speaker 1: you think a little bit of that is also on

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Speaker 4: So going into this show, what we're kind of like

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Speaker 1: This show can be a little bit I'm gonna say

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Speaker 2: Yeah, these where bucket the sides for me that I

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Speaker 2: It's just one of those things for me. I went

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Speaker 4: And then how did your night one go? So you

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I was hoping to basically my entire like like

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that makes that makes sense. Okay, so let's jump

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Speaker 1: to let's jump to this week's episode where like I personally,

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Speaker 1: I would I would hate having to go on stage

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Speaker 5: Joe and I in our first date in Paradise.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, are we are we picking that up correctly? Were

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Speaker 2: I was more, yeah, I would say, anxious, more uncomfortable, yeah,

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Speaker 2: and all that stuff. Right For me, it was just

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Speaker 2: it was it was a lot, right, it was a

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Speaker 2: when I was looking at that, I was like, you know,

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Speaker 1: So during the the the catwalk, I call it cat

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Speaker 1: then you stop the mic and you essentially say like Jen,

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Speaker 2: And I was in the moment and blacked out. So

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Speaker 2: I was starting so you know, because you're frond like

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Speaker 2: down to it. Love isn't linear, you know, like love

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Speaker 1: Validated me by the way, yeah we we do see that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah she liked that, But which I which meant the

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Speaker 2: for me, it's like I want to we're want to

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Speaker 2: I think it was nine like Kat walked and when

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Speaker 2: we were all normalized to that, right, and that was

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Speaker 2: of love, Like, hey, I'm starting to feel these feelings

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Speaker 4: So tell us how you felt going into that plan

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Speaker 4: of I'm gonna bear at all with my emotions for Jen,

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Speaker 4: and then how you felt after you had done it.

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Speaker 2: So pre going into it, I felt really good, right.

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Speaker 2: I wanted to best represent myself, my family and basically

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Speaker 2: and basically be like, hey, I'm here for you. I

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Speaker 2: Posted I felt terrible. I felt like a fool. I

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Speaker 1: Well before before before yeah, before you get into the

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Speaker 1: To clarify, you didn't mean it correct.

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Speaker 2: Of course, so you can't remember this in this In this,

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: And basically the feelings I felt for Jen, these are

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Speaker 4: Was the hardest part of that moment, the response that

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Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't want to put words your mouth,

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Speaker 5: Feel regretful or embarrassed or what was that feeling?

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Speaker 2: Like, I want to say regretful was more embarrassment and

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Speaker 2: I felt like a fool, you know, I felt like

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Speaker 2: I felt like weak, like spineless.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how Yeah. But but but also Jen

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Speaker 2: Here now, yes, during the moment. No, right during the moment,

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Speaker 2: but basically for me, I yeah, I just you know,

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Speaker 2: I like after that moment when you kind of like,

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Speaker 2: that's cool for you to do that, but you obviously

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Speaker 1: You know you're you're embarrassed. You're like yeah, You're not

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Speaker 2: We all were naked.

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Speaker 5: I was just you know, emotionally naked.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, and then that's when I felt the weakest,

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Speaker 4: So then let's jump to the night portion you're going in,

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Speaker 4: having kind of left on that note, Yeah, we see you.

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Speaker 4: Let me ask this, actually, did you address the men

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Speaker 5: Do you remember?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: So obviously I was hearing within the like I was

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Speaker 2: just hearing that, like, you know, I don't know how

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Speaker 2: like I knew they were like making fun of me.

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Speaker 1: Right And when you say that, like what do can

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Speaker 1: you pinpoint some of the guys? Wasn't all the guys

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Speaker 1: like it was?

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Speaker 2: It was it was like it was like a like

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Speaker 2: a majory. I don't want to pinpoint anybody calling anyone out,

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Speaker 2: because you know, everyone's entitled to like whatever they want

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Speaker 2: to feel. But I kind of want to address it

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Speaker 2: you have something to say, let's say it here right now.

439
00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,160
Speaker 2: I tried to, but I didn't know how to because

440
00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,160
Speaker 2: I felt so weak. But I just want to take

441
00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:46,040
Speaker 2: the punches at that moment, right, I just was like,

442
00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,280
Speaker 2: let's just move on from this. This was a very

443
00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:50,800
Speaker 2: like embarrassing moment of me, and I want to extremely

444
00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:52,919
Speaker 2: vulnerable and I just want to, like, I want to

445
00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:54,399
Speaker 2: move forward. I don't want to like, you know, I

446
00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:55,760
Speaker 2: don't It's like I don't want to say this bully,

447
00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:57,720
Speaker 2: but I didn't want to feel like, well like I

448
00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:00,040
Speaker 2: just I felt like really like, you know, uncomfortable, and

449
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:01,800
Speaker 2: I want to just kind of like just kind of

450
00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:03,280
Speaker 2: like just address it, you know.

451
00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:05,199
Speaker 4: And so do you feel like people were kind of

452
00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:08,520
Speaker 4: like making fun of you or that moment behind your

453
00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:10,280
Speaker 4: back and you were like, let's just call this out,

454
00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:11,200
Speaker 4: say it to my face.

455
00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:13,679
Speaker 2: So that's all move exactly. That's exactly what it was.

456
00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:15,600
Speaker 2: I was like, And then I can basically talk to

457
00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:18,760
Speaker 2: you about why right if if you if I owe

458
00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:21,040
Speaker 2: you an explanation, you know, And that's what I was,

459
00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:22,159
Speaker 2: That's what I was intending to do.

460
00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:32,520
Speaker 4: We saw that Devin kind of spoke up in your defense.

461
00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:34,040
Speaker 4: What was that moment like for you?

462
00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:37,359
Speaker 2: I felt really so Devin and I have liked a

463
00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:40,119
Speaker 2: like I have a romance right like basically, Devon and

464
00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:44,000
Speaker 2: I kicked it off pretty well, just because, like I

465
00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:45,720
Speaker 2: was saying, this is like it's like Hunger Games in there,

466
00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:47,520
Speaker 2: there's a different districts. There's like a district with a

467
00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:49,640
Speaker 2: lot of people, and then there's like these mani districts,

468
00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,680
Speaker 2: And Devin and I were like our own little districts

469
00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:53,679
Speaker 2: right where we both were here for the same reason,

470
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:55,639
Speaker 2: but we both were in our own lanes. And I

471
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:57,680
Speaker 2: always respected the way Devin did it. Sure, can you

472
00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:00,360
Speaker 2: go on in more like, but it's just Devan right

473
00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:03,240
Speaker 2: in that moment. I really respect him though. It was

474
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,240
Speaker 2: a moment where I couldn't speak for myself and he

475
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,600
Speaker 2: spoke up for me, and that shows a lot about

476
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:13,919
Speaker 2: his character and it really yeah, like he stood up

477
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:15,360
Speaker 2: for me. There's nothing more to it than that.

478
00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:17,800
Speaker 1: Yeah.

479
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:20,359
Speaker 4: And then after you called out the guys, do you

480
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,399
Speaker 4: feel like things settled on that front?

481
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 2: No? I wanted so for me. I wanted I wanted

482
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:29,040
Speaker 2: peace with everyone. I didn't want any arguments between Sam

483
00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,399
Speaker 2: Thomas and Devin. I just wanted it all to be

484
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,440
Speaker 2: okay because I'm like, hey, guys, we're all here to

485
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,719
Speaker 2: find love, Like, let's just focus on the main goal here,

486
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:40,480
Speaker 2: our relations with Jen m But it just made it worse,

487
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,240
Speaker 2: you know, it just made it like more like divided

488
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:45,680
Speaker 2: and it straight up like a Game of Thrones in there.

489
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:49,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a little unfortunate. It's a little unfortunate for

490
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 1: you because not every I feel like, not every season

491
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,600
Speaker 1: is like this. We're actually seeing it. We're seeing it

492
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,959
Speaker 1: a lot, and in this season with the guys, they

493
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:04,400
Speaker 1: is more of that like hunger games ish like vibe.

494
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:05,360
Speaker 2: Yeah.

495
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like Game of gen like, yeah, whender you die.

496
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:13,120
Speaker 1: So you but you do end up talking to Jen, Yeah,

497
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,359
Speaker 1: whatever time it is in the night what I doesn't

498
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 1: really matter. And then how do you feel during that conversation?

499
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:23,240
Speaker 2: And then after I felt so during the conversation my

500
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,920
Speaker 2: mind was just you know, was I was in.

501
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:29,920
Speaker 1: My head scrim excuse me, no, just like a mess.

502
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:31,959
Speaker 2: Yeah. It was just because it was like I felt

503
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,120
Speaker 2: like I don't want to put too much pressure on her.

504
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 2: At the same time, I wanted her to know like

505
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:39,119
Speaker 2: my intent is period and that my feelings I am feeling,

506
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 2: whether that's like it's just one of those moments for me.

507
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:47,399
Speaker 2: I wanted to kind of, you know, just kind of

508
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 2: explain myself and kind of tell her like listen, like

509
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 2: these feelings are new to me that even when I

510
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 2: hold your hand or in conversations, I can't like I'm

511
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:56,919
Speaker 2: thinking about holding your hands when I'm holding you, like

512
00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 2: when I'm talking to you, do you know what I'm saying?

513
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 2: And for me, that's like I can't, you know, like

514
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:04,640
Speaker 2: if I I have like severe acy, I'm like thinking

515
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:06,359
Speaker 2: of like twenty things and I'm like trying to like

516
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:11,160
Speaker 2: progress and just show her that like, hey, I'm who

517
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 2: I am because we're gonna you know, propose her and

518
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 2: like within like a month, right, So it's like I

519
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 2: want to I want you to be like I want

520
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:21,679
Speaker 2: this to last and be forever. So and then she

521
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 2: was very understanding. She was extremely extremely understanding, and that

522
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:33,119
Speaker 2: meant a lot to me. Posted just even like yeah,

523
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 2: it just it just showcases her character and I can

524
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:38,199
Speaker 2: see why she's a PA.

525
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 1: Do you do you feel like because the show, you know,

526
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:45,639
Speaker 1: the point of the show is to end in a

527
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:49,960
Speaker 1: proposal or an engagement, do you think that you put

528
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 1: a little more pressure on yourself because of that?

529
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,919
Speaker 2: So if I could change one thing going back on

530
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 2: the show is not to have an expectation. I went in,

531
00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,879
Speaker 2: I'm like the most serious and serious guy, right, Like,

532
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,160
Speaker 2: people don't think I'm They treat thinking I'm on serious

533
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 2: whatever they mean me like, I'm very serious when I

534
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 2: came to it, because for me, I was this is

535
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 2: this is my soulmate, right, this is someone I'm not

536
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:12,639
Speaker 2: It's like till death do is the part, right. So,

537
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 2: but coming in with that mentality even with the dates too,

538
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:19,959
Speaker 2: like having an expectation on these dates, it's always never

539
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:21,639
Speaker 2: going to be not you never know what it's going

540
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:23,439
Speaker 2: to be, so you're always going to be in some

541
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 2: sort of way let down or you know, be surprised.

542
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:30,439
Speaker 2: And if there's one thing I would go is no expectations, right,

543
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 2: don't expect to I called her like my wife immediately

544
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 2: when I came in, right because I was like, this

545
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:35,879
Speaker 2: is going to be the girl I've know. I was

546
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:37,920
Speaker 2: saying proposing, I was saying, this is gonna be my wife,

547
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 2: you know so.

548
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 5: And you know what, I will say, that does seem

549
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 5: to be the mentality amongst.

550
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 4: Your caste as well, Like I feel like a lot

551
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 4: of the guys this season, not just you, were seeing,

552
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 4: like with the the the mentality of like, I'm proposing

553
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:54,880
Speaker 4: to this girl this is my wife, which we don't

554
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 4: always see. I feel like that kind of mentality is

555
00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:01,160
Speaker 4: also infectious amongst the group of like you're envisioning her

556
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,239
Speaker 4: as your wife, even though it's so early on.

557
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, well you got you know, X amount

558
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,439
Speaker 2: of weeks to make like it's it's that you know,

559
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:14,639
Speaker 2: and and it's very heidened, everything very hid and so yeah,

560
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 2: she she is. She's an amazing girl.

561
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 4: I just wanted to say, I think it was really

562
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 4: good that you doubled down on what you said and

563
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 4: you said to Jen like, no, I meant it, and

564
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,880
Speaker 4: I wanted to be vulnerable and this is the feelings

565
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 4: that I'm feeling. Did any part of you consider backtracking

566
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 4: after that moment and taking it back so it wouldn't be.

567
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 2: Back it's more No, I said, I want to own it, right,

568
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,400
Speaker 2: But is there hesitation where I'm like, are these emotions

569
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,880
Speaker 2: just because of the environment? Is this emotions like there?

570
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 2: I was questioning because when the guy's laughing at me,

571
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 2: because it is it's a little bit early, right, but

572
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 2: I say the people are gonna say it within a

573
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 2: week or two anyways, right, Like it's like one of

574
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:57,879
Speaker 2: those things where it's like, oh, it's say whatever, but

575
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:01,639
Speaker 2: like it's not linear, right, And then that's where my

576
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,399
Speaker 2: confusion is, Like it's not linear? Do you know what

577
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 2: I'm saying? And but I really want to make sure

578
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 2: that I was there for her, and that's what I was,

579
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 2: you know, And that's and that's.

580
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,879
Speaker 5: Why we forgot to ask you this at the beginning.

581
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 4: We usually always ask this, did you watch the show

582
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 4: before you went on it?

583
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 2: I should have watched a lot more episodes apparently, But

584
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 2: basically i've want, I've I've I've I've watched the show. Yeah,

585
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,399
Speaker 2: I've watched the show, but I haven't like wasn't like

586
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,160
Speaker 2: like every season type guy, but I've seen like I've

587
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:33,920
Speaker 2: seen a few seasons.

588
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,959
Speaker 5: Okay, Do you think that in any way shaped your

589
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 5: expectations coming on the show of what your journey might

590
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 5: look like.

591
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 2: No, I think my me being kind of like a

592
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 2: novice to the show was really what made me, I

593
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 2: guess unique or like authentic. Put it that way. If

594
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 2: I have an expectator, I try to come in just

595
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 2: being just myself and trust the process.

596
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. I think I think a

597
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 1: lot of people go in that way too, and that's

598
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 1: usually what makes for more authentic TV. All right, how

599
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 1: about you want to play a rapid fire game with us?

600
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 2: For sure? Yeah, let's go.

601
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 1: All right, so this is just rapid fire. First thing

602
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 1: that comes to your mind. It's just we're gonna get

603
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,959
Speaker 1: to know Sam a little better, all right? Sure, all right,

604
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 1: go to drink at a bar tequila soda. Favorite comfort

605
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 1: movie or TV.

606
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 2: Show, Let's say Dumb and Dummer for movie.

607
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 1: Favorite food or cuisine.

608
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 2: Food would be xerish pulo, which is a like it's

609
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 2: a specific dish. What is it? It's basically chicken and

610
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 2: rice with like these specific serish, which is Persian cranberries.

611
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 2: That's my that's my favorite, like like my favorite dish,

612
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 2: or steak and potatoes.

613
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 1: Best councert you've gone to.

614
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 2: I only went to Coach on like twenty sixteen, and

615
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 2: that's it. I've never been other concerts besides that or

616
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 2: anything else.

617
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 1: Favorite way to unwind HM.

618
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 2: Recently has been Playing Fast with My Dog.

619
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 1: I mean, favorite quality about Jen supported Who's night One

620
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 1: little entrance this season was your favorite?

621
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 2: I would say, uh, I think the Keems stood out

622
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,959
Speaker 2: really well. To me. I think that was awesome just

623
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 2: purely because of like, uh like because I watched him

624
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 2: walk in and then I was kind of like scared

625
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 2: because I was like, dude, you're gonna like break the lights,

626
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 2: you know, And I'm like a huge height guy, you know,

627
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 2: I'm scared of heights a little bit. So I was

628
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 2: like like anxious that these lights are gonna throw it,

629
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 2: like like fall down.

630
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 4: His was so memorable, Like, even thinking back tonight one,

631
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 4: this is the first one that comes to my mind.

632
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 2: It's not a version. I'm kidding.

633
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 3: Love versions out there, night owl or early bird.

634
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 2: I'll say both, but early bird typically.

635
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 1: What is your love language?

636
00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 2: Ah, I don't. I don't know, be honest.

637
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 1: What is a dream date you'd take Jen on.

638
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 2: For me?

639
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 1: Uh?

640
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 2: The way I always describe a dream day would be

641
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 2: just a casuals date with the perfect date, like right,

642
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 2: it's like in the line the perfect date. But I

643
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 2: would say something really simple just because it's something that

644
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 2: we can continuously do every day.

645
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 1: Cool. And if you could sum up Jens season of

646
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 1: The Bachelorette in one word, what would it be boxing

647
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 1: not kidding?

648
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 2: Uh uh, surprise, I would say surprising. I would say,

649
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 2: very surprising.

650
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 1: Nice. I like that. All right, before we let you go,

651
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 1: is there anything that you could tease that's big coming

652
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 1: up but not spoil.

653
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 2: Let's just say the tea gets.

654
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 1: Bigger, Yes, bigger, the tea is gonna grow. Well, that

655
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 1: is it for the episode. Sam, Thank you so much

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