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Speaker 1: From Baltimore to the Big Smoke.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Between the Horns, presented by your Southern California

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Speaker 2: Toro to dealers. It's JV Long DeMarco far I'm Cameron Irwin,

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Speaker 2: and we get set for week seven, a trip on

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Speaker 2: the road. Yeah, fellas, do you have your neck pillows ready?

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Speaker 3: No? Can I borrow one?

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Speaker 1: Please?

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Speaker 4: Definitely packed mine in my passport this morning.

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Speaker 3: Oh no way.

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Speaker 1: So what does the trip look like when you guys?

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Speaker 5: Head out tomorrow Friday? So I'm leaving from here, going

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Speaker 5: straight over to London, so I'll be out.

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Speaker 4: Of this slight detour. I'll see you there.

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Speaker 3: We'll look at you.

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Speaker 1: See.

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Speaker 2: I think JV's got a little bit of a longer

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Speaker 2: route to get to London.

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Speaker 1: You ready to go? Man?

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Speaker 4: I hope, so, I hope?

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Speaker 3: So geeked let's go.

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Speaker 2: Well, let's take a look back. Coming off the win

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Speaker 2: over Baltimore was seventeen to three. Rams now sit at

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Speaker 2: four and two and they're going to face off against

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Speaker 2: the Jags team also four and two. I'll tell you

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Speaker 2: one thing, five and two feels a lot different than

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Speaker 2: four and three as they are being for a matchup

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Speaker 2: at Wimbley Stadium. Guys, it was interesting. Sean McVay sat

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Speaker 2: down with you earlier this week and he said it

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Speaker 2: was a strange game the.

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Speaker 1: Way it all unfolded.

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Speaker 2: In your conversation with him, what was some of the

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Speaker 2: takeaways and what were your takeaways from Baltimore?

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Speaker 5: Well, it was it was a weird game, but this

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Speaker 5: is the pay League, so all that matters is the result,

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Speaker 5: and you got the w. So, and you've heard me

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Speaker 5: say this before, you know, winning is great deodorant. It

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Speaker 5: covers up a ton of stink. So there were some

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Speaker 5: things that you wish you could have got corrected. But

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Speaker 5: with everything that went wrong or everything that you didn't

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Speaker 5: do right, you still came out of there with a win.

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Speaker 5: That's no easy thing to do. In Baltimore, I could

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Speaker 5: care less who was at quarterback. So anytime you get

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Speaker 5: a win versus Baltimore, you should be happy. And like

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Speaker 5: you said, I agree with you one hundred percent. Five

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Speaker 5: and two sounds better than four and three, but both

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Speaker 5: aren't bad when you consider it's better than being the opposite,

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Speaker 5: or three and four or worse than that. So you

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Speaker 5: want to come out of this with a win. You

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Speaker 5: want to be heading towards playing your best football. I

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Speaker 5: think you're just about there. At least your defense is

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Speaker 5: on the verge of becoming a top ten stop all

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Speaker 5: type defense. So all I care about leaving Baltimore is

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Speaker 5: getting that W.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, defensively is a great showing, but it comes with

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Speaker 4: the caveat that you're playing Cooper Rush right and Joe noteboom.

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Speaker 4: So was it as good as it looked on paper?

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Speaker 4: I don't know. Conversely, I think McVeigh was actually killing

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Speaker 4: them on offense. I thought there was a lot of

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Speaker 4: good in that film, but it's the same old issues

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Speaker 4: bogging down the rams, slow starts, ball security, not finishing drives,

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Speaker 4: throws off frame, off target drops. Because efficiency wise, this

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Speaker 4: is a top six offense in the NFL. Scoring wise,

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Speaker 4: they're pedestrian their middle of the pack, and the longer

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Speaker 4: that that disconnect continues, and some of it is on

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Speaker 4: the kicking game, it's not all on the offense. But

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Speaker 4: until those good reps turn into big numbers on the scoreboard, yeah,

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Speaker 4: it's gonna feel a little wonky when you get a win,

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Speaker 4: but you don't do everything that you thought you could

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Speaker 2: One of the other conversations that you had with him

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Speaker 2: he said. Being able to win in different types of

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Speaker 2: games and in different types of ways can be a

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Speaker 2: strength for this team moving forward. And I want to

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Speaker 2: look a little bit big picture here across the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Are the days of.

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Speaker 2: Dropping thirty plus points weekend and week out still a

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Speaker 2: reality in the league today or even in this team.

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Speaker 4: I think that's part of why last week felt so unsatisfying.

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Speaker 4: It is because you saw Houston go put forty four

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Speaker 4: on that same team. Now, Baltimore got some good pieces

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Speaker 4: back Defensively, they were not the same defense week over week,

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Speaker 4: and the transitive property doesn't work in football, especially not

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Speaker 4: in the NFL. But yeah, I think those opportunities are

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Speaker 4: Rams could have and should have put up forty points.

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Speaker 4: They haven't done it yet.

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Speaker 3: Thirty points a week for everyone or just maybe not

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Speaker 3: a week this team, that would be fun. I mean,

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Speaker 3: it's entirely possible.

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Speaker 4: I do.

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Speaker 5: And I think, like you said, even with everything, how

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Speaker 5: wonky everything has been and how great Matthew Stafford has played,

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Speaker 5: I think there's another gear they can get to, and

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Speaker 5: it starts with DeVante. If you can somehow figure out

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Speaker 5: that connection between Stafford and Davante, because, like we keep saying,

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Speaker 5: the guy is absolutely open.

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Speaker 3: You've just missed. He's had issues with drops.

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Speaker 5: But if you can provide that part of the offense

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Speaker 5: and improve that by fifty percent, you're in the red zone.

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Speaker 3: If you're in the red zone, you're in the end zone.

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Speaker 5: If you're doing that, you're setting yourself up to be,

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Speaker 5: you know, rushed between Byron Young and Jared Verse. I

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Speaker 5: think that's what this team is set up to do.

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Speaker 5: So I think you're just about there. So besides the

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Speaker 5: kicking game, I think there's just a few more things

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Speaker 5: that if you can iron that out, I think maybe

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Speaker 5: thirty points is something that's easily attainable.

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Speaker 4: Do you have any theories on that Davante thing.

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Speaker 5: About that connection? You know, I would love to go

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Speaker 5: out and watch and watch them work on their route tree.

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Speaker 5: If you're Sean McVay, I might even ask them to

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Speaker 5: go out before the game and let's run the route tree,

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Speaker 5: just so we know where everyone's going to be on

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Speaker 5: certain things. But it seems like Davante he wants it

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Speaker 5: and needs it here, and it's just a beat off

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Speaker 5: just kind of sl down and then you can't find

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Speaker 5: the guy. But when they do connect, it's otherworldly. He

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Speaker 5: from out of the sun. So when that starts to connect,

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Speaker 5: there is no corner, there is no defense.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: It's interesting going into this matchup too, because considering the

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Speaker 2: health of Puka and Nakua, I'm wondering if this will

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Speaker 2: be the game that you see that relationship and that

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Speaker 2: evolution between Stafford and Adams really take life.

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Speaker 5: I loved it. That's the way I was parented. If

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Speaker 5: you know we couldn't get along with our brothers, would

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Speaker 5: just put us in a room and figure it out.

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Speaker 5: You don't come out into your you're hugging. So yeah,

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Speaker 5: I mean that's that's the downside to not having Cook Nakua.

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Speaker 5: You may have to lean on that connection and figure

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Speaker 4: Two things I appreciate about it, they're each taking ownership,

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Speaker 4: Like DeVante's like that there's more that I can do,

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Speaker 4: and Matthew is like, I'm not worried about it because

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Speaker 4: I know I can make these rows and I'm not

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Speaker 4: giving them the best chance to succeed. So I do

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Speaker 4: think there's a world where this is the Matthew to

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Speaker 4: DeVante game. I also think that it could be in

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Speaker 4: Jacksonville's best interest to try and take that away and

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Speaker 4: make McVeigh and staff for try and beat you left

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Speaker 4: handed because they don't have the top two, you know,

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Speaker 4: receiving duos potentially this Sunday, and so could could there

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Speaker 4: be additioned by subtraction? As far as DeVante's concerned without

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Speaker 4: pooka sure, could the Rams really struggle without the best

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Speaker 4: receiver in the National Football League and their secret weapon

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Speaker 4: not so secret weapon on third down? Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 4: this could bog down without him.

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Speaker 3: I'm concerned, you know, Pook and sneaks up on you.

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Speaker 3: Now you're fired? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: But am I right? But I think it transforms, Like

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Speaker 4: I think there's a potential for this to be a

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Speaker 4: one off game plan that is much different than the

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Speaker 4: first six have been offensively for the Rams. And so

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Speaker 4: if I'm Jacksonville's defensive coaches, I am losing a lot

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Speaker 4: of sleep this week. Now I'm in a better position

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Speaker 4: because I don't have to deal with the hammerhead Pook

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Speaker 4: and Akua. But in terms of what's coming down the pike,

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Speaker 4: I don't know, there's nothing on film.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what about twelve?

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Speaker 2: Do you think twelve personnel could be added in a

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Speaker 2: little bit more? Is this the game we'll see Terrence

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Speaker 3: Does it have to be in twelve? Does to yes?

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Speaker 3: Yes to that? I hope So, I hope we see.

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Speaker 5: A little bit more of him, especially with Puoka being out.

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Speaker 5: It's almost a one for one match when you think

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Speaker 5: about what they do. But I like him going down

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Speaker 5: the field in those matchups and letting Stafford develop a

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Speaker 5: new receiver, a big body, a guy that can post

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Speaker 5: closer to closer, closer to the end zone. So absolutely,

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Speaker 5: I think there's gonna be more reps for Ferguson this week.

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Speaker 4: You know, on paper, on the depth chart, the replacement

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Speaker 4: is probably Jordan Whittington, right, But in terms of skill

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Speaker 4: big slot role for t ferg If he's not yet

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Speaker 4: ready to crack your tight end rotation in depth chart,

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Speaker 4: why not now in a different role. But I think

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Speaker 4: that's the element of surprise that Sean McVay has at

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Speaker 4: his advantage as much under center drop back game as

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Speaker 4: Matthew's been playing this year. They could revert back to

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Speaker 4: the obj Rams and just spread them out and with

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Speaker 4: let's go with Jacksonville a little young at corner and

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Speaker 4: short handed at linebacker, you could really these Jags out

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Speaker 4: on defense with a not a completely different look, but

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Speaker 4: one that's not been in keeping with your first six games.

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Speaker 2: All right, guys, well we've already been diving into Jacksonville,

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Speaker 2: but I think we need to go back just a

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Speaker 2: bit more and consider this defensive performance that we saw.

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Speaker 2: It's the second time the Rams have held a team

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Speaker 2: out of the end zone this season, the first being Houston,

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Speaker 2: of course in week number one. What impressed you the

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Speaker 2: most about that defensive performance against Baltimore?

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Speaker 5: How they finished again that goal line stand, pops Q

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Speaker 5: Lake getting his hands on one. Finally, you know, there's

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Speaker 5: a lot of things. First thing that jumps off is

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Speaker 5: those edge guys in young and Verse and how they play,

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Speaker 5: and just the depth you have at tackle at defensive tackle,

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Speaker 5: that you could roll so many guys and throw so

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Speaker 5: many different combinations and just keep you guessing on the run.

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Speaker 5: They could cover every gap. They could go four down,

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Speaker 5: They can go three down and still be effective whatever

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Speaker 5: they throw. But I think the thing that stands out

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Speaker 5: the most, because we've seen great defensive line play right

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Speaker 5: possibly the best ever, the thing that stands out is

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Speaker 5: linebacker play and Nate Landman and what he does and

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Speaker 5: how he does it and how he goes about his business.

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Speaker 5: He has been a wonderful acquisition to this defense and

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Speaker 5: he is a phenomenal football player, not just the punchouts,

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Speaker 5: just where he places himself and how everything is. He's

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Speaker 5: such a calming influence when they switch or change, he's

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Speaker 5: got it. He's got the check. The way he communicates

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Speaker 5: with Chris Shula on the sideline, it's like another coach

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Speaker 5: this defense, it doesn't panic, it doesn't blink. And if

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Speaker 4: This competition they have with each other, who's going to

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Speaker 5: They played seventy five snaps last week. Okay, the defense did. Okay,

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Speaker 3: Right, go get him. That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: You have the ability to be a lockdown, go get

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Speaker 4: The fact that your captains came through in that moment,

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm glad that you guys brought up the

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Speaker 2: if I were Cooper Rush I was, I would be terrified.

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Speaker 3: It's the center. The center is probably scared to death.

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Speaker 4: Was that a hard counter? Did Cooper Rush? Just glitch?

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Speaker 5: That was a hand because when they caught them all

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Speaker 3: We've been playing this. There you go.

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Speaker 2: But in reality too, I think you saw the effect

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Speaker 4: But I think this is the perfect game to just

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Speaker 4: But like with Trevor Lawrence's running ability, just play assignment

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Speaker 3: Again.

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Speaker 5: You've heard me say this production equal tolerance. I can

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Speaker 3: To get you.

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Speaker 2: JB.

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Speaker 1: You think the nickname bash Bros. Is going to stick?

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Speaker 1: That was from Sean McVay regarding those two this week.

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Speaker 4: It's too bary eccentric.

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Speaker 3: I think that's maguire.

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Speaker 4: It was a good baseball reference while they're practicing at

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Speaker 5: How about the All Pros? Does that count there? That's universal?

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Speaker 5: Let's do that.

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Speaker 2: Sure, I think we will workshop it all right, just

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Speaker 4: Wow, not a bad find. No, Thank you, Atlanta, Thank.

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Speaker 2: You absolutely, let's turn our attention to the offensive side

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Speaker 2: Another slow star JB. You mentioned at the top of

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't say it's concern because there's so much success there.

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Speaker 4: There's so much good there that the disconnect between the

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Speaker 3: No doubt.

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Speaker 5: I thought having Big Steve back at left guard was huge,

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Speaker 5: Warren's been great, absolutely, I would say one thing great.

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Speaker 5: This is not a knock on him. I thought he

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Speaker 3: Don't let him know you're there. Drill him.

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Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. You are a right tackle

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you do want to be big guardy guard this.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely Steve's have you looked at his body?

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Speaker 5: And Dotson again, I thought they're playing a tough brand

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Speaker 4: It can't just be on McVeigh and lafloor to get

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm glad that you bring up the Williams catch

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Speaker 1: I love that that was a good call. You know,

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Speaker 2: But also just considering the down and distance fourth and

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Speaker 2: We got to dig into special teams, folks.

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Speaker 4: I don't. We don't have to.

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Speaker 2: Do the Rams have a kicker issue or a special

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Speaker 4: They have a field goal operation issue?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's fair.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I mean, don't take anything away from the work

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Speaker 4: The clang off the right upright reverberated. But the one

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Speaker 5: There's there's there's an issue there and it needs to

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Speaker 5: It's it comes off of Carty's foot, so he has

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Speaker 5: that was a big message. But like you said, you're

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Speaker 5: you have to make decisions and choices, but let's I

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Speaker 5: wouldn't go ahead and say let's adopt a gung ho

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Speaker 4: Either way, at least the protection was better, right, correct, Yeah,

439
00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:38,000
Speaker 4: and so maybe you need to build the confidence back up. Yes,

440
00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:40,400
Speaker 4: from that standpoint, because it's the same guy you made

441
00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:41,960
Speaker 4: well like twenty six in a row at the end

442
00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:45,120
Speaker 4: of last season and of this year. He was NFC's

443
00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:46,920
Speaker 4: Special Teams Player of the Month. I think then the

444
00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:50,520
Speaker 4: last year, like Carti's got the goods. But whether it's

445
00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:52,879
Speaker 4: a breakdown of confidence, whether it's a breakdown in protection

446
00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:56,560
Speaker 4: that led to a breakdown, and fundamentals, it's got to

447
00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:59,320
Speaker 4: change because you can only go so far with what

448
00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:02,239
Speaker 4: we think is a championship caliber roster, right and not

449
00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:05,679
Speaker 4: have that element in play, Like you don't want to

450
00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:07,040
Speaker 4: have to make a change, but there comes a point

451
00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:08,120
Speaker 4: where you got to try something else.

452
00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:10,800
Speaker 5: True, Yeah, But like I just I think it was

453
00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:13,080
Speaker 5: that moment and if you get caught in the same

454
00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:15,000
Speaker 5: situation in London, I think you kick.

455
00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:17,560
Speaker 3: I would trust it. I would. I mean, I think

456
00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:18,760
Speaker 3: you have to you.

457
00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:21,239
Speaker 4: Know what I mean it would depend to me how

458
00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:23,159
Speaker 4: much Matthew's slinging it.

459
00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:26,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is true, right, you guys bring up London.

460
00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:30,439
Speaker 2: Well, it's rams first international trip since twenty nineteen and

461
00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:31,280
Speaker 2: currently they are.

462
00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:32,720
Speaker 1: Two and zero under Sean McVay.

463
00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:37,679
Speaker 2: Internationally interesting matchup two facing off against Liam Cohen for

464
00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,600
Speaker 2: former OC here with the Los Angeles Rams.

465
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Speaker 1: Is there some continuity there?

466
00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:46,280
Speaker 2: There's some insider knowledges these two teams face off.

467
00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:49,199
Speaker 5: You can tell, man when you watch their offense and

468
00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:53,119
Speaker 5: how they do things, It reminds me of seventeen eighteen McVeigh.

469
00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:55,879
Speaker 5: He's making the defense pay for the rules, and he

470
00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:58,359
Speaker 5: is a like you said, the masters of offense are

471
00:19:58,359 --> 00:19:59,560
Speaker 5: early masters of defense.

472
00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:00,639
Speaker 3: They can what you're in.

473
00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:03,040
Speaker 5: They can manipulate you to get you to get the

474
00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:04,879
Speaker 5: look they want and then make you pay for it.

475
00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:07,080
Speaker 5: So the one thing you have to do and the

476
00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:09,760
Speaker 5: one thing that you have in the RAMS advantage are

477
00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:12,160
Speaker 5: math changers and we already mentioned them with Byron Young.

478
00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:15,240
Speaker 5: They can destroy where it shows up on their offense

479
00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:18,560
Speaker 5: is through their O line, so versus hitting gaps. This week,

480
00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,520
Speaker 5: I would say you're hitting bodies. You're throwing guys into

481
00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:24,040
Speaker 5: the backfield and you're trying to force us onto Trevor

482
00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:25,680
Speaker 5: Lawrence and see if he can beat you with his arm.

483
00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:28,199
Speaker 5: I would bet that the Rams would be able to

484
00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:30,800
Speaker 5: get to Lawrence before he gets the ball off, especially

485
00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:34,320
Speaker 5: with their O line and the season the Rams D

486
00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:35,320
Speaker 5: line is having right now.

487
00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:37,879
Speaker 4: I think center for Jacksonville and left tackle are the

488
00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:41,400
Speaker 4: positions to watch real issue and pass protection. I don't

489
00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:44,399
Speaker 4: know how much of that is Seattle's being elite defensively

490
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Speaker 4: or how much of that is regression from the Jacksonville offense,

491
00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:50,800
Speaker 4: but I think Liam got this job as much because

492
00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:52,280
Speaker 4: of what he did with the running game in Tampa

493
00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,840
Speaker 4: Bay as the Baker story and all that stuff. Like,

494
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Speaker 4: I know the Rams have been running the gauntlet against

495
00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:00,399
Speaker 4: opposing rushing games, but just because ETMA not have the

496
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Speaker 4: credentials or the accolades or the pedigree of McCaffrey and

497
00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:06,639
Speaker 4: Derrick Henry and Saquon Barkley, you better bring it on

498
00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:08,879
Speaker 4: first down this week because I think a real easy

499
00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:10,959
Speaker 4: way to lose this game is to lose ETN and

500
00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:13,679
Speaker 4: not push the game back on Trevor Lawrence's shoulders in

501
00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:17,320
Speaker 4: this offensive line by falling behind and by giving up,

502
00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:19,320
Speaker 4: you know, four or five yards per carry, Like that's

503
00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:21,000
Speaker 4: a real recipe for disaster.

504
00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:23,080
Speaker 5: This week, they probably think they can run it a

505
00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:25,200
Speaker 5: little bit when you what Derek Henry did in the

506
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Speaker 5: first nap.

507
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Speaker 4: They've run it really well. It's fallen off just briefly,

508
00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:31,920
Speaker 4: but like their body of work and even Liam's record

509
00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,280
Speaker 4: going back to Tampa Bay says that they can absolutely

510
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Speaker 4: do that.

511
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Speaker 5: You know, this is no god. Yeah, you're gonna have

512
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Speaker 5: to earn it. This is no gimme. They're going to

513
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Speaker 5: try to come at you and run the football. So

514
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Speaker 5: it's just you have you have depth of d line,

515
00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,160
Speaker 5: you have good edge, and you have a great linebacker.

516
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Speaker 3: So if you play it correctly, you should be able

517
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Speaker 3: to stop it.

518
00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:50,280
Speaker 4: And if you gave up thirty seven pressures the last

519
00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:52,880
Speaker 4: two weeks and you see the Rams defensive front coming,

520
00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:54,080
Speaker 4: what are you gonna run?

521
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Speaker 2: Right, before we get any further, I just want to

522
00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,119
Speaker 2: give a little shout out to to Stu Jackson, and

523
00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,280
Speaker 2: he pulled a quote from Liam this week, and it

524
00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:04,960
Speaker 2: was a story about Sean McVay and Liam and what

525
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:05,520
Speaker 2: Liam had.

526
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Speaker 1: Learned from Sean.

527
00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,080
Speaker 2: It was really interesting, saying that he had to drop

528
00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,960
Speaker 2: every pass play right, And I think it really speaks

529
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,920
Speaker 2: to the coaching tree that Seawan Myfay has truly created.

530
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Speaker 2: And I imagine there's going to be some fun, some

531
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Speaker 2: familiarity as those two face off now this weekend.

532
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Speaker 3: Can you imagine if you messed up one of those cars?

533
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Speaker 4: I mean, and it wasn't the best year you'll remember.

534
00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,240
Speaker 4: So good on Liam for going back to college and

535
00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,199
Speaker 4: then battling his way back up through the ranks. Like

536
00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,800
Speaker 4: you know, his talent was undeniable, But it's not like

537
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,680
Speaker 4: he used a you know, a rocket ship year here

538
00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:40,680
Speaker 4: in Los Angeles. Not a pult to bigger things.

539
00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:41,240
Speaker 3: Good coach.

540
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Speaker 5: Yes, love everything about him, except he's trying to fight

541
00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:44,800
Speaker 5: bigger coaches.

542
00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:46,600
Speaker 4: And let's not do that before I forget. Don't let

543
00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:48,679
Speaker 4: Hunter Long beat you. Don't let Johnny Munt beat you.

544
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,280
Speaker 5: Please, Johnny Mount, here we go again. Can't get rid

545
00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:53,639
Speaker 5: of him like luggage stays around forever.

546
00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:57,280
Speaker 2: Yes, let's talk a little bit about Devin Lloyd, the linebacker.

547
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Speaker 2: It's a big loss for this team for Jacksonville been

548
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:04,919
Speaker 2: ruled out with a calf injury. How big of an

549
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:08,680
Speaker 2: advantage does this become now for the Rams just considering

550
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:12,040
Speaker 2: this guy has just been wicked for interceptions already this season.

551
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,040
Speaker 3: This one less guy to worry about. I mean, I

552
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:14,959
Speaker 3: guess it kind of evens out.

553
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:18,199
Speaker 5: You're gonna be missing Poka maybe so they're missing one

554
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,280
Speaker 5: of their best guys. But I'll say this, man on defense,

555
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 5: they have and I said this before a spread o'corps.

556
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 5: On defense, if the ball gets tipped or it's on

557
00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:27,680
Speaker 5: the ground, they think it's theirs. This is how they live.

558
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,720
Speaker 5: I mean it's wild. When the ball is tipped, you'll

559
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,359
Speaker 5: see four guys. Their eyes get big. They get it,

560
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,639
Speaker 5: and they don't miss opportunities. If you give them an

561
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 5: opportunity to take the ball away, they will. So ball

562
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:40,360
Speaker 5: security is super important.

563
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,520
Speaker 2: This week, let's talk about Trevor Lawrence. Do you feel

564
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,000
Speaker 2: like he is plateauing or ascending at this point?

565
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:46,640
Speaker 1: Now? Under Liam?

566
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,600
Speaker 4: One second before I forget, because before we leave the

567
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,680
Speaker 4: defense behind, do you still have Dennis Gardek recurring nightmares

568
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,119
Speaker 4: like I do? I do he's on Jacksonville. Just say no,

569
00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,360
Speaker 4: I hope I didn't ruin your flight to line.

570
00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:00,240
Speaker 3: Is that part of the McVeigh coaching tree.

571
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,360
Speaker 4: I mean it might be, Man, that guy's a Thorn

572
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 4: and oh, it's great to have him out of the division,

573
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:05,679
Speaker 4: but now he's in Jacksonville.

574
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 2: Yes, sorry, Camaron, back on, I just let's talk about

575
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:09,639
Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence.

576
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,560
Speaker 1: Guy's towing or sending now under Liam.

577
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 4: I think Jacksonville can't answer that question. That's part of

578
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:19,440
Speaker 4: the frustration, probably, right, is his inconsistency m hm, when

579
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:21,639
Speaker 4: I worry about his ability to extend plays and drives.

580
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 4: And so that's where I got back to, like, you

581
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:27,440
Speaker 4: better be you know, rush lane integrity's a big deal

582
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 4: this week because if his pocket is punctured and he

583
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 4: pulls his eyes down but he moves the chains on

584
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:34,480
Speaker 4: third down, it's gonna be a long day at Wembley.

585
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,159
Speaker 5: Yeah, he can he can move, He's got some wiggle.

586
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 5: But you do notice this on tape. He can throw

587
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 5: it from different platforms. So he's got what you need

588
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 5: in the passing game, and he can run the offense.

589
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 5: But he's he's a super athlete, and it seems like

590
00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,720
Speaker 5: he's always out to prove that on every single rep

591
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 5: that he is the athlete that you think he is.

592
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 5: But when he does pull it down, this is not

593
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,120
Speaker 5: a guy that's just running the space I'm gonna take

594
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:56,920
Speaker 5: what the defense gives me and slide here.

595
00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,159
Speaker 3: No, he can wiggle, he can make.

596
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:02,200
Speaker 5: You miss, he can take a when you have him

597
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,639
Speaker 5: boxed in, he can all of a sudden outflank you

598
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 5: with his speed and get down the field. Like you said,

599
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:08,679
Speaker 5: there is nothing worse than the quarterback that jumps out

600
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 5: the window and picks up first downs. That's almost as

601
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 5: bad as jumping off side on third down anyway. So

602
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:16,920
Speaker 5: here's another running quarterback that you have.

603
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Speaker 1: To deal with before we get any further.

604
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:21,359
Speaker 2: I also feel like we have to talk about somebody

605
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 2: who hasn't seen as much action, and I'm a little

606
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 2: concerned going into this one. Could this be the game

607
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,359
Speaker 2: that he takes off? I hope not. And that is

608
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 2: none other than Travis Hunter. He has been held in

609
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 2: his six games, four of them for less than thirty

610
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 2: five total yards. Are we gonna be able to keep

611
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:39,640
Speaker 2: keep those numbers consistent?

612
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 1: And going?

613
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Speaker 3: Here?

614
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,120
Speaker 4: If I force you to pick a lane for one

615
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 4: game in one game only, would you play him on

616
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:44,480
Speaker 4: offense or defense?

617
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 3: The defense?

618
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,640
Speaker 5: I would play him on defense? Would I would play

619
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:51,399
Speaker 5: him like Dion Sanders in Prime? He's got He's a

620
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 5: great corner. If he steps in front of one and

621
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 5: he picks off anybody, If he picks off Matthew Stafford,

622
00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:57,680
Speaker 5: that's going back for six.

623
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Speaker 3: So that's devastating.

624
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,879
Speaker 4: He joined DeVante coming off the bus and he doesn't

625
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 4: leave him until he.

626
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:04,880
Speaker 3: You got him.

627
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 5: I would say this is the marquee matchup you've been

628
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 5: waiting for. Travel with Devant.

629
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,680
Speaker 4: Essentially because he is playing more on offense. He's been

630
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 4: I think he's been better on defense statistically, but he

631
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:15,159
Speaker 4: is playing more on offense.

632
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 1: So yeah, they're giving him a couple more looks at least. Uh,

633
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:21,160
Speaker 1: this is the m j D Bowl. Yeah, we gotta

634
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:22,200
Speaker 1: give him the man a little love.

635
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 2: And I knew going into this as he played eight

636
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 2: season with the Jags. I was going, who in the

637
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 2: world is he gonna pick? Would you like to guess

638
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 2: who he picked?

639
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:31,640
Speaker 3: You better pick the Rams. Come on, now, he's gonna

640
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 3: be in the booth with us.

641
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 4: His ring says Rams. Yes, last I heard, he was

642
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 4: upset that they gave Cody Schrader his numbers.

643
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 3: They can love him all they want. He's looting for

644
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 3: us there, Yes.

645
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 1: Twenty seven. He's got the rems, so fair enough.

646
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 2: The keys to victory. You guys, let's let's finish this off.

647
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 2: What are you starting with?

648
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 1: JB long Uh?

649
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 4: I mean, first of all, where we started. This is

650
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 4: a massive game, like this is an even bigger game.

651
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,439
Speaker 4: I think I realized on Monday, and you said it,

652
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,440
Speaker 4: the difference between five and two and four and three,

653
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 4: not only because of what that means for your potential fortunes,

654
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:09,880
Speaker 4: but I think because of what it gives your front

655
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 4: offense license to do. If you're flying home at five

656
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,160
Speaker 4: and two with a bye and the Saints at home

657
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 4: coming up on the trade deadline, I think you'll have

658
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 4: a very good opportunity to maybe four toify your roster

659
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,879
Speaker 4: or at least make some calls attacking areas that I

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Speaker 4: think can transform you from a contender to a championship favorite.

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Speaker 4: I think making sure that Lawrence doesn't do damage with

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Speaker 4: his feet, is there, winning that early down, pushing the

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Speaker 4: game back on his shoulder so that ETN can't turn

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Speaker 4: chains on you and shorten the game the way that

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Speaker 4: some teams like San Francisco and Baltimore have done lately.

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Speaker 4: And then how about a turnover free performance for once

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Speaker 4: Rams are too deep in the season to have not

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Speaker 4: played a clean game. Yet I think that opportunity is

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Speaker 4: in front of them.

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Speaker 1: I said, key to victory, he gave me keys.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what else?

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Speaker 5: What they say, don't jump off size on third down?

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Speaker 5: Start there? How about at least six points from your

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Speaker 5: kicking game. At least six points from your kicking game.

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Speaker 5: Now that could be X getting loose and breaking one

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Speaker 5: and then you get the extra point. That's obviously seven,

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Speaker 5: but six points. I'd love to see Cardi go out

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Speaker 5: there and kick a field goal and just have a

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Speaker 5: clean operation one two, boom, it's through. I mean he

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Speaker 5: absolutely cuts the goalposts in half. And everything else that

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Speaker 5: JB said is ultra important. But yeah, I think for

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Speaker 5: confidence for everything, for where you are on the verge

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Speaker 5: with it's on the lips of everyone, and your coach

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Speaker 5: just put it on front street with that call on

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Speaker 5: fourth down. Everybody's worried about your kicking game. The only

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Speaker 5: way to get through that is to go out there

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Speaker 5: and be clean, absolutely be clean on teams at least

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Speaker 5: six points out of your teams, and be penalty for

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Speaker 5: you there.

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Speaker 4: You already had to suffer through a loss on your

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Speaker 4: mini by like, get a victory and feel good about

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Speaker 4: your fortunes at the midway point. Enjoy the flight home,

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Speaker 4: rest and recover and get ready for a big, big

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Speaker 4: second half of the season.

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Speaker 2: My key to victory is going to be getting after

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Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence. Like you mentioned, trying to keep him contained

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Speaker 2: last week against Seattle, sacks seven times and get this,

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Speaker 2: seventeen QB hits seventeen.

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Speaker 1: Seventeen in one game. That's a lot.

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Speaker 4: That's there's a big test for him, right, Like if

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Speaker 4: you've been peppered like that for a couple of weeks

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Speaker 4: now and you know the Rams are next, you know

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Speaker 4: how willing are you to live life in the pocket

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Speaker 4: this week? He's capable of.

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Speaker 3: Just coming out fast. Yeah, this could be an op.

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Speaker 2: And not to forget here Robert Hainsey, their center is

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Speaker 2: not making or he is making the trip to London,

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Speaker 2: and he missed last week with the hamstrings, so that's

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Speaker 2: a big one to watch in terms of the matchup.

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Speaker 2: Any final thoughts before he head off to London.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I just I'm going to count Maurice Jones drew

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Speaker 5: Jerseys over there and how many past twelve before we

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Speaker 5: get out of Heathrow.

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Speaker 4: Yes, Happy birthday to Joey Hirsh.

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Speaker 3: Happy birthday.

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Speaker 1: Yes, there you go. He's in the room now. You

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Speaker 1: gotta love it. Happy birthday, Joey.

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Speaker 4: No one's still watching that.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I kept it under I think like thirty five minutes,

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Speaker 2: so hopefully people are still hanging on. I hope you

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Speaker 2: all are able to wake up bright and early. Grab

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Speaker 2: your cup of coffee, because this one's kicking off at

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Speaker 2: six thirty am Pacific standards Earl Gray and join our

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