WEBVTT - What's the deal with ASMR? 0:00:01.120 --> 0:00:04.560 Welcome to Stuff you should Know from how Stuff Works 0:00:04.600 --> 0:00:13.760 dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark, 0:00:13.800 --> 0:00:16.320 and there's Charles W Chuck Bryant. There's Jerry over there 0:00:16.360 --> 0:00:19.440 eating god knows what for lunch. And this is stuff 0:00:19.480 --> 0:00:23.759 you should know, the Jerry's Lunch edition about SMR. And 0:00:23.880 --> 0:00:29.760 that's the addition that everyone loves the best. Yes, you're 0:00:29.800 --> 0:00:36.400 doing so good, Chuck. I'm sure zero people had an 0:00:36.440 --> 0:00:39.680 a s m R experience just now. Well, let's I mean, 0:00:39.720 --> 0:00:42.000 I need to know. Do you know do you get 0:00:42.040 --> 0:00:44.760 the tingles? No? Not either. I don't even think I 0:00:44.760 --> 0:00:48.120 could put myself in that position where I'd be like, like, stop, 0:00:48.159 --> 0:00:50.240 stop touching the camera that's supposed to be my face. 0:00:50.720 --> 0:00:53.720 Not comfortable. I watched a bunch of these just to see. 0:00:53.880 --> 0:00:56.120 You know, you have to dive in head first and 0:00:56.200 --> 0:01:00.000 really get a sense. And uh, I had a hard time. 0:01:00.040 --> 0:01:03.840 I'm sitting there for too long. Even I might have 0:01:03.880 --> 0:01:08.440 the opposite effect. Yes, there's a very good question that 0:01:08.520 --> 0:01:11.200 I wrote at the end. Why not be freaked out 0:01:11.240 --> 0:01:14.839 by this? Why do the exact opposite and enter a euphoric, 0:01:15.800 --> 0:01:20.920 meditative state. It's a very bizarre, really interesting thing, and 0:01:21.000 --> 0:01:23.280 not bizarre in any kind of weird like, look at 0:01:23.280 --> 0:01:25.720 these weirdos, I want to poke them in the in 0:01:25.760 --> 0:01:29.480 the net kind of thing. It's more like it's a genuinely, 0:01:29.600 --> 0:01:33.680 legitimately bizarre and if we can figure it out, it'll 0:01:33.760 --> 0:01:36.560 unlock a whole other corridor to the brain that we 0:01:36.600 --> 0:01:40.480 didn't really know existed. Yeah, so in true stuff, you 0:01:40.480 --> 0:01:42.440 should know fashion A lot of you have no idea 0:01:42.440 --> 0:01:48.480 what we're talking about. UM A s MR stands for autonomous, 0:01:48.640 --> 0:01:51.600 is how you say it. I went with autonomous autonomous 0:01:51.680 --> 0:01:55.200 I think so, I think you're probably right, autonomous sensory 0:01:55.360 --> 0:01:59.120 meridian response, which sounds very clinical. Yeah, and we'll we'll 0:01:59.400 --> 0:02:03.320 we'll get to that. But I think everyone needs to 0:02:03.360 --> 0:02:07.240 know what it is, uh, and what it is is 0:02:08.320 --> 0:02:13.280 uh generally a video that you will watch online, although 0:02:13.320 --> 0:02:16.359 it's really just sounds, but the way they present themselves 0:02:16.440 --> 0:02:20.160 these days or audio clips and video clips, it's and 0:02:20.240 --> 0:02:23.280 it's not just sounds, it's it's also closeness is a 0:02:23.320 --> 0:02:27.000 big part of it too. Uh. Okay, but it's it's 0:02:27.040 --> 0:02:30.720 a sound. It's a response to sounds that some people 0:02:30.760 --> 0:02:35.480 get and some people don't. UM A tingling sensation in 0:02:35.520 --> 0:02:39.280 the head moves down the neck. Uh. Some people call 0:02:39.360 --> 0:02:41.320 it like a tickle. Some people call it like a 0:02:41.760 --> 0:02:46.000 head orgasm or brain orgasm, a tickle in your skull. Yeah, 0:02:46.160 --> 0:02:50.080 So then that is triggered by hearing certain sounds like 0:02:50.120 --> 0:02:56.000 whispering voices or seeing repetitive motions is another one too. Yeah, 0:02:56.040 --> 0:02:58.520 but I think I get For my research, I found 0:02:58.520 --> 0:03:01.639 that it was mostly sound and that the visual component 0:03:01.800 --> 0:03:04.359 is just by virtue of the fact that a lot 0:03:04.360 --> 0:03:07.560 of these are on YouTube. Is that So I got 0:03:07.639 --> 0:03:09.640 that from that too. But I also saw that in 0:03:09.760 --> 0:03:12.760 one of these UM surveys that said that slow movements 0:03:13.600 --> 0:03:18.880 UM accounted for triggering for of the participants. So yeah, men, 0:03:18.960 --> 0:03:21.520 seems significant, But I get what you're saying, Like it 0:03:21.560 --> 0:03:24.200 does seem like the sounds are far and away, like 0:03:24.240 --> 0:03:26.680 the crux of the whole thing. Yeah, and they're all 0:03:26.720 --> 0:03:28.840 different kinds of sounds. Like the best way to really 0:03:29.840 --> 0:03:32.120 it's hard to describe, is to really just go listen 0:03:32.120 --> 0:03:36.160 to one real quick. UM. It always includes whispering, and 0:03:36.200 --> 0:03:38.400 I think that's my biggest turn off. A lot of 0:03:38.440 --> 0:03:41.280 the other sounds are fine and pleasing to me, they 0:03:41.280 --> 0:03:44.960 don't give me the tingle, But they're relaxing, but I 0:03:45.000 --> 0:03:50.000 don't like someone whispering in my ear. I don't like that. 0:03:50.200 --> 0:03:52.920 I've determined that that is basically what you're going to 0:03:52.960 --> 0:03:55.920 get with a SMR videos is somebody whispering in what 0:03:56.080 --> 0:03:59.720 seems like your ear. Yeah, I have personal triggers for 0:03:59.760 --> 0:04:03.840 that from my childhood. I think pleasant ones no unpleasant, 0:04:03.960 --> 0:04:05.920 which is why i'd have an aversion to it now. 0:04:06.000 --> 0:04:10.360 So I might be an parents. No, I don't want 0:04:10.360 --> 0:04:13.360 to talk about it, but it's uh, it's it's I 0:04:13.400 --> 0:04:15.120 think I might be an l lier. I don't know. 0:04:15.800 --> 0:04:17.640 I definitely don't get the tinkles. I don't get the 0:04:17.680 --> 0:04:20.120 tinkles either, And it's not I don't want to say 0:04:20.160 --> 0:04:23.040 like it's a ingreat. Well, it's not a huge aversion 0:04:23.080 --> 0:04:25.680 to it, but I'm not like, I don't like it. 0:04:26.080 --> 0:04:28.240 I'm not big into it. How about that when I 0:04:28.279 --> 0:04:31.480 was watching and that lady was whispering too much, I 0:04:31.640 --> 0:04:33.800 literally had to rip the earbuds out of my ears. 0:04:33.800 --> 0:04:36.640 Oh wow, that's a real aversion. But some of the sounds, 0:04:36.680 --> 0:04:39.120 like the tinking of a glass or that's another one. 0:04:39.200 --> 0:04:42.400 Stuff like that was okay. It's specifically the whispering that 0:04:42.480 --> 0:04:46.120 doesn't jibe with my ears, understood, So if you're if 0:04:46.160 --> 0:04:49.800 you're still kind of sitting there going huh. Put another way, 0:04:50.440 --> 0:04:55.800 some sounds and possibly some sites actually trigger a really 0:04:56.440 --> 0:04:59.760 unusual sensation in people where they feel like it's one. 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:03.400 One woman described it um kind of like sparkles or 0:05:03.480 --> 0:05:06.800 fireworks going off in your head on your scalp. The 0:05:06.880 --> 0:05:10.359 strongest one, and this is really really significant to the 0:05:10.480 --> 0:05:14.039 strongest version of an a SMR experience will leave you 0:05:14.400 --> 0:05:21.160 feeling exhausted and pleasantly tired, satisfied, she said, like you're 0:05:21.240 --> 0:05:26.400 just like you just had some sort of climax of sorts, right, 0:05:26.880 --> 0:05:28.800 But we want to point out and we'll get into 0:05:28.839 --> 0:05:31.760 it more later. This is not for the vast majority 0:05:31.800 --> 0:05:35.360 of people who experience this. This is not um sexual 0:05:35.440 --> 0:05:38.680 in any way. It's sensual, but it's not sexual. It's 0:05:38.680 --> 0:05:42.720 something entirely different. And it's also not what's called freezon, 0:05:43.240 --> 0:05:45.600 which is getting the chills when you hear like an 0:05:45.600 --> 0:05:52.200 amazing piece of music or something really incredible has happened art, right, 0:05:52.320 --> 0:05:54.159 that'll give you the chill bumps. So it's not that, 0:05:55.000 --> 0:05:58.160 and it's not sexual. It's its own thing that we're 0:05:58.200 --> 0:06:01.640 just now starting to realize is its own thing. Yeah, 0:06:01.760 --> 0:06:05.160 and it's pretty new as far as people talking about 0:06:05.200 --> 0:06:08.360 it and trying to define it. Um. Obviously, if this 0:06:08.480 --> 0:06:13.200 is a a real thing, that it has been around 0:06:13.240 --> 0:06:16.320 forever most likely, but no one ever knew. You know, 0:06:16.360 --> 0:06:19.080 maybe someone in the seventeenth century was like whenever they 0:06:19.080 --> 0:06:22.599 got whispered to, they got a head tingle. And maybe 0:06:22.600 --> 0:06:24.840 back then their response might have been to turn around 0:06:24.839 --> 0:06:27.680 and like bludgeon somebody with a you know, if it 0:06:27.760 --> 0:06:33.680 was you, if you have a hug them, thank you 0:06:33.760 --> 0:06:36.080 for that. Back then they may not have wanted to relax, 0:06:36.120 --> 0:06:38.240 like this is making me feel relaxed. I must kill 0:06:38.960 --> 0:06:41.520 you know, stay on the edge like al Pacino and heat. Sure. 0:06:42.560 --> 0:06:48.359 Why um, but that that that grouping of words is 0:06:48.640 --> 0:06:53.160 very recent. A woman named Jennifer Allen Um. She she 0:06:53.360 --> 0:06:55.840 coined the term. She is the person that made up 0:06:55.880 --> 0:06:58.960 those words. After Yeah, after about a decade of looking 0:06:59.040 --> 0:07:02.200 for other people who experienced a s m R what 0:07:02.240 --> 0:07:05.760 would come to be called a s m R. UM, 0:07:05.800 --> 0:07:08.039 I guess we're not for the internet. People would still 0:07:08.040 --> 0:07:13.240 be walking around either assuming that everybody experiences this and 0:07:13.400 --> 0:07:16.440 not talking about it, or thinking that they were the 0:07:16.480 --> 0:07:19.280 only one and not talking about it, And were it 0:07:19.360 --> 0:07:21.280 not for Jennifer Allen, it might have we still might 0:07:21.280 --> 0:07:23.600 not be talking about it. But she sought out some 0:07:23.720 --> 0:07:26.400 other people who are experiencing this because she recognized it 0:07:26.440 --> 0:07:29.360 as a usual and she found a thread on a 0:07:29.440 --> 0:07:33.800 forum called Steady Health and there are people talking about 0:07:33.920 --> 0:07:36.720 She said, hey, let's move this to Facebook. That's what 0:07:36.760 --> 0:07:39.160 people do these days because that's a non judgmental place 0:07:39.160 --> 0:07:41.680 where everybody can get along. So let's just create a 0:07:41.680 --> 0:07:45.440 Facebook page. So she did in two and she I 0:07:45.480 --> 0:07:47.680 think that year the next year came up with this 0:07:48.000 --> 0:07:55.880 term autonomous sensory meridian response. Totally made up, completely made up, 0:07:55.880 --> 0:07:57.960 but every scientific term is made up at one point 0:07:57.960 --> 0:08:02.840 by somebody, normally by scientists. She is a cybersecurity expert, Yeah, 0:08:02.880 --> 0:08:06.560 which is fine. Like, like she did it to um 0:08:06.600 --> 0:08:10.200 to basically give it credence enough so that people could 0:08:10.240 --> 0:08:13.000 start talking about it without without it being like just 0:08:13.080 --> 0:08:16.440 some weird, fringy things. She's trying to start a legitimate conversation, 0:08:16.440 --> 0:08:18.400 so it worked like a charm. It's a good name. 0:08:18.440 --> 0:08:21.000 I mean that's what scientists call it now, all right, 0:08:21.240 --> 0:08:23.840 it's good enough. Yeah, Like she definitely secured her place 0:08:23.880 --> 0:08:26.760 in history is the the person who coined the term 0:08:27.160 --> 0:08:33.800 autonomous sensory meridium response. So, uh, all right, I guess 0:08:33.840 --> 0:08:36.439 let's talk about it. It's it's a very personal experience 0:08:36.520 --> 0:08:41.560 for people. Um, No one, no two people will experience 0:08:41.640 --> 0:08:46.320 the same feeling or from the same triggers. I love 0:08:46.360 --> 0:08:49.400 this one guy, Um from the BBC. They were talking 0:08:49.440 --> 0:08:52.120 about how like, why is it? Why are we hearing 0:08:52.160 --> 0:08:54.640 about this now? And you're exactly right, it's because of 0:08:54.679 --> 0:08:59.240 the Internet. Even a very small um percentage of the 0:08:59.240 --> 0:09:02.960 population that experience something like this collected on a Facebook 0:09:03.040 --> 0:09:06.280 site or on YouTube seems all of a sudden, like 0:09:06.320 --> 0:09:08.800 a lot of folks, And it is a lot of folks, yeah, 0:09:08.960 --> 0:09:11.160 but not compared to the population at large, right, So 0:09:11.240 --> 0:09:14.960 proportionately speaking, this seems to be it seems to be 0:09:15.000 --> 0:09:18.520 just a very small proportion of of people in general 0:09:18.520 --> 0:09:22.320 who experienced a s MR. Like I don't you experienced 0:09:22.360 --> 0:09:26.439 anti a s MR. Apparently, Jerry, you Jerry a SMR. No, 0:09:27.440 --> 0:09:30.520 she did the head cut off thing too. But there 0:09:30.559 --> 0:09:33.320 are people, I guarantee there are people out there listening 0:09:33.400 --> 0:09:34.920 right now who are like, oh, I've heard of this, 0:09:34.960 --> 0:09:37.400 but I've never tried it, who will go try it 0:09:37.440 --> 0:09:40.200 and find out that they actually do experience as mr 0:09:40.360 --> 0:09:42.520 and will probably email us and be like, thank you 0:09:43.120 --> 0:09:46.760 so much for introducing me to that. Jerry's reaction, though, 0:09:47.200 --> 0:09:50.240 does it seem more like, Uh, don't bother me with 0:09:50.280 --> 0:09:52.920 this right now, unless like, no, I have tried it 0:09:52.920 --> 0:09:56.600 and not experienced it. Yes, it was a please just 0:09:56.679 --> 0:09:59.760 keep podcasting guys. It was I meaning God knows what 0:10:00.200 --> 0:10:06.800 sign continue. Um. So the uh, the writer of this article, 0:10:07.480 --> 0:10:10.480 um got it a little bit wrong here, uh, And 0:10:10.600 --> 0:10:14.760 that they said it's not something that just randomly randomly 0:10:14.800 --> 0:10:17.800 happens in your daily life. These sounds that is not 0:10:17.840 --> 0:10:22.240 true at all. They absolutely happen in everyday life. And 0:10:22.240 --> 0:10:25.560 that's how people know that. They get this response. And 0:10:25.600 --> 0:10:29.400 then the A S. M Artists, the people on YouTube 0:10:29.400 --> 0:10:33.280 that actually perform, is that what you would say? They 0:10:33.280 --> 0:10:36.240 they replicate these sounds that you do here in everyday 0:10:36.280 --> 0:10:39.000 life that give you these triggers. So you don't have 0:10:39.080 --> 0:10:42.160 to go to the barber and get a scalp massage 0:10:42.360 --> 0:10:44.440 every day. You can just go on to YouTube and 0:10:44.440 --> 0:10:46.840 get the same effect. Yeah, like you may have just 0:10:47.480 --> 0:10:48.920 you may be in your break room and you hear 0:10:48.960 --> 0:10:52.800 someone tapping on a glass bottle, and all of a sudden, 0:10:52.800 --> 0:10:56.880 you're sculpted. Tingles goes down your neck, into your shoulders, 0:10:56.920 --> 0:10:59.920 down your spine, and you are met with a feeling 0:11:00.040 --> 0:11:03.319 of euphoric meditation in relief. And then everyone in the 0:11:03.320 --> 0:11:09.040 break room is like, geez, Gary, where did you go? Uh? 0:11:09.080 --> 0:11:13.040 And then Gary can go home and just watch videos 0:11:13.120 --> 0:11:16.280 of Zoe Kravitz doing it in the Super Bowl commercial. 0:11:16.480 --> 0:11:18.080 So let's let's take a break and then we'll come 0:11:18.120 --> 0:11:21.600 back and talk about YouTube and how it's completely opened 0:11:21.679 --> 0:11:24.160 up the a s m R community. Okay, let's do 0:11:24.200 --> 0:11:52.559 it alright, Chuck um. So, like we said, without the Internet, 0:11:52.720 --> 0:11:54.360 we might not have a name for this, we might 0:11:54.360 --> 0:11:57.600 not be talking about it right now, and definitely well 0:11:57.640 --> 0:11:59.880 we wouldn't even have a podcast, so sure that's true. 0:12:00.520 --> 0:12:02.120 We'd be out on the street court and being like 0:12:02.160 --> 0:12:07.080 here read this, um. The Without YouTube though, a SMR 0:12:07.160 --> 0:12:11.040 would would not be anywhere like where it is right now, 0:12:11.320 --> 0:12:14.559 because it allows anybody to to make an a s 0:12:14.679 --> 0:12:18.640 m R video, And honestly, anybody with a decent type 0:12:18.679 --> 0:12:20.720 mix and a mind to do it can make a 0:12:20.920 --> 0:12:24.520 SMR videos and they have I saw somewhere that there's 0:12:24.559 --> 0:12:28.480 something like seventeen million a s MR videos on YouTube 0:12:28.559 --> 0:12:30.920 right now. Yeah, but I mean I would disagree though, 0:12:30.960 --> 0:12:34.240 you you there is some skill involved, right, Like if 0:12:34.240 --> 0:12:36.040 I went to go make one, it would be terrible 0:12:36.320 --> 0:12:39.160 and not elicit any tingles. I didn't mean to diminish 0:12:39.200 --> 0:12:42.559 the skill involved. I meant to say, like, because YouTube 0:12:42.640 --> 0:12:47.960 democratizing uh entry to like performances to people you've never 0:12:48.000 --> 0:12:51.280 even met, that's that's opened the door for a s MR. 0:12:51.559 --> 0:12:54.079 Anyone with a skill for doing so can yeah, or 0:12:54.080 --> 0:12:56.400 a desire to. Yeah, yeah, but it does take skill, 0:12:56.520 --> 0:12:58.800 I think. So. Yeah, you can't just be like you 0:12:59.040 --> 0:13:01.200 can't just shout all of a sudden or like lunge 0:13:01.200 --> 0:13:04.079 of people at the camera. What are you wearing? You're 0:13:04.120 --> 0:13:07.920 like no, like maybe like sharpening a knife on a 0:13:08.000 --> 0:13:11.400 stone while you're staring into the camera. That probably not help. No, 0:13:11.600 --> 0:13:14.440 that's a different YouTube channel, right it is, But I'll 0:13:14.480 --> 0:13:17.120 bet it's out there, um, and there is. It's not 0:13:17.200 --> 0:13:21.199 just YouTube obviously. If you go to any of the audio, um, 0:13:21.240 --> 0:13:23.240 they're probably a SMR podcasts. I'm sure there's a ton 0:13:23.320 --> 0:13:25.599 of them. But SoundCloud in all these other places to 0:13:25.640 --> 0:13:31.800 aggregate sound files. There are tens of thousands of them, yes, 0:13:32.400 --> 0:13:37.680 and um, they are extraordinarily varied and what what they are, 0:13:37.960 --> 0:13:39.920 what you're going to see, what you're going to hear. 0:13:39.960 --> 0:13:44.240 I saw one that was pretty great. It was a 0:13:44.280 --> 0:13:49.880 woman eating taco bell. No talking, just strictly eating taco bell. 0:13:49.920 --> 0:13:52.000 But it was cute, like she comes along and she's 0:13:52.040 --> 0:13:54.840 like and like makes this face like oh, a table 0:13:54.840 --> 0:13:57.400 full of taco bell and just starts proceeding to like 0:13:57.520 --> 0:13:59.920 unwrap it and eat it. And then the real kid 0:14:00.040 --> 0:14:03.400 girl And this is what made a s MRI as heck. 0:14:04.040 --> 0:14:08.280 Um there the her throat was miked, so not only 0:14:08.320 --> 0:14:10.840 did you hear the crunch of the taco, you heard 0:14:10.840 --> 0:14:12.880 the chewing like there was a mic in her mouth, 0:14:13.080 --> 0:14:16.320 and then you heard the gulping from the swallow every bite. 0:14:16.800 --> 0:14:19.520 That's a weird a SMR video though usually they're not 0:14:19.680 --> 0:14:22.360 like that. This was a s m R because that's 0:14:22.400 --> 0:14:26.000 a I mean, there's another what's the disorder, not disorder, 0:14:26.040 --> 0:14:31.320 but what's the condition people? Yeah, like that's a nightmare 0:14:31.520 --> 0:14:35.480 off a mesa phoniac. Yeah, this is straight for them 0:14:35.520 --> 0:14:38.000 because usually it's some sort of a soothing sound, not 0:14:38.720 --> 0:14:42.400 the gullet washing down cheap beef. But no, I've seen 0:14:43.240 --> 0:14:46.960 rainforest fed bee. Um. I've seen other ones where it's 0:14:47.000 --> 0:14:50.720 like it was a girl drinking like from a half 0:14:50.760 --> 0:14:54.880 gallon bottle of water with a law of mike up 0:14:54.920 --> 0:14:58.120 against her throat and it was just gold. Gold Like 0:14:58.480 --> 0:15:01.480 that is a thing on a s MAR. No, But 0:15:02.760 --> 0:15:05.760 on YouTube, does that mean like would the real a 0:15:05.960 --> 0:15:09.040 s MR, Like I guess you could call them experts, 0:15:09.400 --> 0:15:11.840 would they say, yeah, that's a s MR. Or would 0:15:11.880 --> 0:15:14.440 they say, no, that's someone that just threw that tag 0:15:14.520 --> 0:15:16.720 up there that has nothing to do with a you know, 0:15:16.920 --> 0:15:19.200 I think what they would say is from what we 0:15:19.320 --> 0:15:22.680 understand about a s MR. Now who knows that is 0:15:23.360 --> 0:15:26.400 probably something that could trigger an a s m R 0:15:26.440 --> 0:15:29.680 experience and somebody ergo, it's a s m R. It's 0:15:29.840 --> 0:15:33.120 that wide and varied, which we'll get to an explanation 0:15:33.200 --> 0:15:36.760 for that at the big reveal. Okay, but if you 0:15:36.840 --> 0:15:39.520 go on to YouTube, there's a bunch of um different 0:15:39.840 --> 0:15:43.000 variety to it. There's also some through lines that you're 0:15:43.000 --> 0:15:45.520 going to see or here in just about any a 0:15:45.720 --> 0:15:49.000 s MR video though, Yeah, whispers like we've talked about 0:15:49.720 --> 0:15:53.120 uh binaural recording, which is that's the one part of 0:15:53.160 --> 0:15:57.360 it I do like I enjoy binaural recordings and being 0:15:57.360 --> 0:15:59.960 able to hear, you know, And they always recommend head 0:16:00.000 --> 0:16:04.000 phones better, the best headphones you can afford. Yeah, but 0:16:04.040 --> 0:16:05.720 to hear, uh, I mean that's why I love the 0:16:05.720 --> 0:16:07.840 Beatles so much. Like to hear sound going from left 0:16:07.840 --> 0:16:11.720 to right is pleasing to me. Hearing a good slide 0:16:11.720 --> 0:16:15.680 whistle go all the way through your skull, fingers, tapping 0:16:16.520 --> 0:16:20.720 crisp sounds, that's a big one. Yeah, like scissors. Yeah, 0:16:21.320 --> 0:16:24.040 there's a lot of barbershop stuff. This one lady I 0:16:24.080 --> 0:16:29.160 watched was doing this uh thing right and she would 0:16:29.160 --> 0:16:31.160 do it in the left and then the right, and 0:16:31.200 --> 0:16:33.920 I just wanted to throw my computer out the window. Yeah, 0:16:33.920 --> 0:16:37.120 because it's another thing too, Like very frequently it's just 0:16:37.400 --> 0:16:41.560 a person, typically a woman, also typically wearing like a 0:16:41.600 --> 0:16:44.840 low cut shirt. Yeah. We'll get into that too, okay. Um, 0:16:44.920 --> 0:16:48.560 and the and the mics, and they're not trying to 0:16:48.800 --> 0:16:51.520 hide that. She like she's playing with the mic, like 0:16:51.600 --> 0:16:55.000 maybe like tapping it or doing what you were just 0:16:55.080 --> 0:16:57.800 doing into it, or rubbing it or something like that, 0:16:57.840 --> 0:17:02.520 creating sounds or talk king into it. Soothing, whispering words 0:17:02.520 --> 0:17:05.560 of affirmation, calming words. That part makes a little more 0:17:05.560 --> 0:17:08.680 sense to me. Um. But the point is is that 0:17:08.800 --> 0:17:15.560 it's binural binural recording, so it's like three D stereo, 0:17:15.680 --> 0:17:18.040 so it sounds like you're right there, like it's being 0:17:18.160 --> 0:17:22.040 spoken right into your ear. And they'll some very frequently 0:17:22.080 --> 0:17:25.479 be a mike for each ear and she will go 0:17:25.920 --> 0:17:28.119 or he There are some guy A S m R 0:17:28.560 --> 0:17:31.640 channels go from mike to mike and ear to ear. 0:17:32.040 --> 0:17:35.600 So it's pretty interesting to watch because it's like you 0:17:35.600 --> 0:17:38.480 you get to see how the sausage is made, you know, 0:17:39.680 --> 0:17:43.119 which is unusual. You'd think it would just be just podcasting, 0:17:43.240 --> 0:17:47.080 like but I think from from what I understand, that's 0:17:47.119 --> 0:17:51.080 part of it. Seeing like the fingers like move like that, um, 0:17:51.119 --> 0:17:53.520 like just kind of tapping in a certain way as 0:17:53.640 --> 0:17:57.440 kind of meditative and relaxing. Well, the like I mentioned before, 0:17:57.440 --> 0:18:00.520 the brake Zoe Kravitz, Um, it was very big deal 0:18:00.560 --> 0:18:02.600 with super Bowl commercial, put it on the map more 0:18:02.600 --> 0:18:07.239 than ever before because all of a sudden, you know, uh, 0:18:07.880 --> 0:18:11.120 I don't know however, many hundred or million people watch 0:18:11.240 --> 0:18:13.320 the super Bowl, but a lot of people that have 0:18:13.359 --> 0:18:15.800 no idea what this is. We're exposed to it for 0:18:15.840 --> 0:18:18.560 the first time with Zoe Kravitz on a at a 0:18:18.600 --> 0:18:21.560 desk on a mountaintop, tapping on a beer bottle and 0:18:21.560 --> 0:18:24.480 pouring a beer and speaking into the left and right mix. 0:18:25.240 --> 0:18:28.600 And I think the reaction by a lot of folks 0:18:28.640 --> 0:18:30.600 that know what the deal is is like, oh interesting. 0:18:30.880 --> 0:18:33.199 They put a SMR on the Super Bowl or the 0:18:33.240 --> 0:18:37.080 Big Game, and then people were like, what in the 0:18:37.240 --> 0:18:39.919 heck is that girl doing? I wonder if anyone was 0:18:41.280 --> 0:18:45.040 well assume, so there were probably a lot of dudes 0:18:45.040 --> 0:18:47.280 and their recliners that were liking, I don't know what's happening. 0:18:48.080 --> 0:18:50.240 It's kind of like finding out you get seesuars by 0:18:50.240 --> 0:18:53.520 watching that one episode of Pokemon, right, you know, it's 0:18:53.560 --> 0:18:57.879 good time to realize that there's a couple other um 0:18:58.040 --> 0:19:02.240 things you'll find too. It's apecially like um role playing. 0:19:02.359 --> 0:19:05.760 You'll see role playing a lot in these videos. Yeah. Well, 0:19:05.800 --> 0:19:09.440 the one lady I saw look like she was sort 0:19:09.480 --> 0:19:12.520 of performing as a nurse might m hm, So I 0:19:12.520 --> 0:19:14.600 don't know if that counts as role playing. Was that 0:19:14.760 --> 0:19:21.480 um Maria from gent Whisper Gentle Whispering. Maybe they kind 0:19:21.480 --> 0:19:25.000 of all ran together for me. So she is the 0:19:25.280 --> 0:19:29.600 like the the most popular a s MR artist or 0:19:29.640 --> 0:19:32.800 a SM artist around. I think she has like one, 0:19:33.000 --> 0:19:37.760 like one point six million subscribers. And she does a 0:19:37.800 --> 0:19:41.960 lot of role playing where she will pretend and it's 0:19:41.960 --> 0:19:43.760 not just her, there's others that do this too. But 0:19:43.880 --> 0:19:46.000 rather than just sitting there messing with a mic or something, 0:19:46.280 --> 0:19:49.000 she's got like a whole little set where it looks 0:19:49.040 --> 0:19:53.320 like you are getting an eye exam in an optometrists office, 0:19:53.640 --> 0:19:57.359 and but the optometrist is whispering to you the whole time, 0:19:57.640 --> 0:19:59.399 and it's telling you how great you're doing at this 0:19:59.480 --> 0:20:02.120 I X and you're doing so good it's so strange 0:20:02.160 --> 0:20:05.160 to me. Let's see how these fit. And here's another 0:20:05.200 --> 0:20:08.399 thing about role playing too, is it's meant to be 0:20:08.520 --> 0:20:11.760 p o V. So the camera is your eyes. So 0:20:12.040 --> 0:20:15.520 the the A s M artist will be messing like 0:20:15.560 --> 0:20:18.960 around the camera, like putting the glasses like they're they're 0:20:19.000 --> 0:20:22.880 putting them on you. So they're whispering and they're touching 0:20:22.880 --> 0:20:26.840 you lightly, and they're they're speaking words of like encouragement 0:20:26.880 --> 0:20:30.159 and affirmation to you. And this supposedly is like the 0:20:30.280 --> 0:20:32.960 big one. This is the ones that like that that 0:20:33.000 --> 0:20:36.080 make it feel like it's fireworks and make people feel 0:20:36.119 --> 0:20:40.320 like satisfied afterwards, like from this, what wave of you four? 0:20:40.400 --> 0:20:43.800 Your wash over them? See I see that and listen 0:20:43.840 --> 0:20:47.840 to it, and I think I'm running out of that 0:20:47.880 --> 0:20:50.640 Optometros office as fast as my little legs can care. 0:20:50.680 --> 0:20:53.040 But that's that's the hilarious thing. Like if you step 0:20:53.119 --> 0:20:56.359 back and imagine, like an actual real world experience like 0:20:56.400 --> 0:20:58.480 this should be like is there something wrong with you? 0:20:58.600 --> 0:21:00.960 It's like why are you whispering? Dude? But that's yeah. 0:21:01.000 --> 0:21:04.359 But apparently if you experience a SMR, that would be 0:21:04.400 --> 0:21:07.960 your dream, like, oh my god, a real and tell 0:21:08.000 --> 0:21:10.600 me how good these glasses look on me? Well, they're 0:21:10.640 --> 0:21:12.920 just kind of messing with my side burns a little bit. 0:21:12.960 --> 0:21:17.120 Oh so interesting, It is very interesting. It is all 0:21:17.240 --> 0:21:21.520 generally intended to relax someone, uh and introduce what's known 0:21:21.560 --> 0:21:24.640 as a state of flow, which is you know you've 0:21:24.640 --> 0:21:30.200 heard about artists and musicians and created Yeah, sure, athletes 0:21:30.560 --> 0:21:33.199 getting in that state of flow. It's almost like, uh, 0:21:33.480 --> 0:21:35.680 it's really just lebron kind of kind of like a 0:21:35.760 --> 0:21:40.320 runner's high maybe where uh or if you're creative, things 0:21:40.359 --> 0:21:44.520 are just you've opened yourself up and you're channeling creative 0:21:44.600 --> 0:21:47.640 energy to cross hatchings is coming right out of your pencil. 0:21:48.240 --> 0:21:49.640 That's just and I'm not making fun of that. I've 0:21:49.640 --> 0:21:52.760 I've gotten into states of flow for surely. Gosh, it'd 0:21:52.800 --> 0:21:54.760 be so neat to be able to just trigger that 0:21:54.920 --> 0:21:58.920 or bring it on likely without thinking. Well, I think 0:21:58.920 --> 0:22:01.960 that's why a lot of artists like they try to 0:22:01.960 --> 0:22:05.199 get that through drugs and alcohol. Yeah, but that's a 0:22:05.359 --> 0:22:09.000 that's a blind alley friend. Yeah, it is so um, 0:22:09.040 --> 0:22:10.600 I get you through for a little while, but it's 0:22:10.680 --> 0:22:13.679 dead in street and really it's not gonna it's not 0:22:13.720 --> 0:22:17.600 gonna bring on the flow. It's gonna it's gonna mislead 0:22:17.640 --> 0:22:20.639 you because you'll think you're in the zone, playing amazingly, 0:22:20.720 --> 0:22:24.600 and all anybody's here is like, and you're not supposed 0:22:24.600 --> 0:22:26.840 to be playing like that, So stay off the drugs. 0:22:28.359 --> 0:22:30.240 I guess we should talk a little bit more about 0:22:30.280 --> 0:22:32.080 the you know, when you said they might be wearing 0:22:32.080 --> 0:22:35.040 low cut shirts and the whole sex thing, Well, a 0:22:35.080 --> 0:22:38.560 lot of people see that then see the whispering and 0:22:38.600 --> 0:22:40.720 the touching, and they're like, oh, well this is porn 0:22:40.800 --> 0:22:44.800 of some sort obviously. Yeah, Like it's I've I watched 0:22:44.840 --> 0:22:47.119 a few of the videos, and again, it's not like 0:22:47.119 --> 0:22:49.320 like anyone, like you said, anyone can put something up there. 0:22:49.400 --> 0:22:52.560 So I'm sure there are some a s M artists 0:22:52.560 --> 0:22:56.359 that maybe to get more views, might try and be 0:22:56.400 --> 0:23:01.200 more sexually tantalizing. But like there are all kinds of 0:23:01.280 --> 0:23:03.200 videos out there and all kinds of people watching them. 0:23:03.240 --> 0:23:06.399 Some people may not feel anything sexual at all, and 0:23:06.440 --> 0:23:09.680 it's only central most people. Most people. Some people may 0:23:09.880 --> 0:23:13.160 masturbate to an a s M R video. Apparently five 0:23:13.200 --> 0:23:16.880 percent of them do. Uh well, I guess so. But 0:23:16.960 --> 0:23:20.840 for the vast majority of them, the vast majority of 0:23:20.880 --> 0:23:23.240