1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 1: Yes, this is the Patriots Training Camp Cast. The Patriots 2 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: Training Camp Cast is your source for all the news 3 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: from Patriots training Camp. Well, I do still watch the news. 4 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 1: Practice is over, but the writers of Patriots dot com 5 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 1: have you covered what I miss yesterday? Now here to 6 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:24,959 Speaker 1: review today's practice? The writers of Patriots dot com, Well, 7 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: it was a hot one out there today. Dialed back 8 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: a little bit. No pads here today on what is it? 9 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: What we're losing track of days? We're Wednesday, day seven. 10 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: It's starting to get into the dog days of training camp, 11 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: losing track of time. But this is Mike do so join. 12 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:41,240 Speaker 1: We got some special guests today, of course, Paul Perillo, 13 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: Evan Lazar and a special guest today. Offensive lineman's been 14 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:47,559 Speaker 1: working around here. He hasn't turned your volume up there 15 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:51,239 Speaker 1: you go. Um, Christian Taylor's joining us. Somebody who works here. 16 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 1: But he's got some experience in the offensive line, going 17 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: to Georgia Southern as well as Bennett College. So Christian, 18 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: thank you for joining us. We put him on watching 19 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: the offensive and defensive line, so we want to get 20 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: some input in terms of, you know, what he's seeing 21 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 1: with his keen football eye. But first let's talk a 22 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 1: little bit about this practice, guys. It was maybe not 23 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 1: the most eventful one. Bill Belichick said, we're gonna dial back, 24 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:13,680 Speaker 1: fix some things today. Seems like it might be set 25 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 1: in the stage for tomorrow. My favorite part of that was, 26 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: you know, we have to fix some things, would specifically everything, 27 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 1: and I would say that the way they went about 28 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 1: the practice it sort of showed that a little bit. 29 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 1: I did think it was a you know, a slower tempo, 30 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: and I thought there was more instruction going on than 31 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 1: we typically see in a training camp practice. I thought, 32 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: you know, again, I wouldn't call it a walk through. 33 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: I think it was a little bit faster paced than 34 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:42,119 Speaker 1: a walk through. But there were some moments at least 35 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 1: where there was some plays. I thought that went off 36 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: a little bit smoother than we've seen more consistently in 37 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: the recent past. But again some disjointed periods for the offense. 38 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I thought Kendrick Bourne picked up a few catches. 39 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: I mean, it wasn't anything earth shattering, but it was 40 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: nice to maybe see him get involved a little bit. Evan, 41 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: what else stuck out to you today? I think the 42 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 1: main emphasis for today was a smoother operation overall, offensively. 43 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 1: I don't think they're going to get caught up, not 44 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: that they ever really do, and the results of completions 45 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: or big plays down the field or anything that actually 46 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 1: was a product of what they did out there today. 47 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: But overall, I agree with Paul that a little bit 48 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: smoother offensively. Seemed like they were trying to get to 49 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 1: their landmarks and their passing concepts and trying to basically 50 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:29,839 Speaker 1: work out some of those kinks. It was a lot 51 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: of mental stuff and correcting mistakes. But the one thing 52 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 1: I'll say that last red zone period ramped up a 53 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 1: little bit the competition and once again Matthew Judean off 54 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: the left side, Mac Wilson on an interior blitz. More 55 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 1: pressure on mac Jones to end that red zone period. 56 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: Two straight drop backs to end the practice for Mac 57 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 1: one throwaway one would be sacked for mac Wilson. So 58 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 1: still a lot to work out up front that we 59 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: saw yesterday and the day before in pads. Well, mac Wilson, 60 00:02:58,360 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: sure that's the place, stood up to me. He blew it. 61 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:01,839 Speaker 1: So Christian, let's go to you. We saw a couple 62 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: of days of pads. You've got to look at some 63 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 1: of the offensive line and we know they're going through 64 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 1: some transition. But you know, just for you as a 65 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:10,959 Speaker 1: college offensive lineman, what stood out to you some of 66 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 1: the guys, what what you know catches your eye as 67 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: you're watching some of these one on ones from the 68 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 1: last couple of days. Well, one thing that I saw 69 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 1: that did catch my attention was Justin Harren playing right 70 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:24,079 Speaker 1: tackle as a backup. I think he is a solid 71 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: backup at right tackle. He had some great blocks today, 72 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 1: able to cut guys off, really really athletic. But I 73 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: think they're still working on, you know, jelling. Really, I 74 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: think they need some time to work together. It looks 75 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: like cold Strange may possibly still be trying to learn 76 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: the playbook. He's asking a lot of questions when he's 77 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 1: at the line of scrimmage. So I think they're just 78 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: working on you know, coercion, working together, understanding each other 79 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: when they're in the scenario. But I think, you know, 80 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: by the end of camp, they'll be all right. Now. 81 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: I mean, I gotta bring up Trent Brown because I mean, 82 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 1: you're people can't see it. This is a podcast, but 83 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: Christians a giant guy. I mean, he looks like he 84 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: could strap them up right now, go out there and 85 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: look right in place with the rest of the offensive line. 86 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: But you know, just for you big guy. I mean, 87 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: I know offensive tackles are generally all big, but you know, 88 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: just Trump Brown. What is your impression to him as 89 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: as an offensive tackle in the NFL and just the 90 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: pure size that he has. Yeah, well, you love the 91 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: size that Trent Brown has. He's massive, long, athletic. He's 92 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 1: moving over to left tackle again. That's you know, somewhere 93 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: where those quick guys are going to be defensive end. 94 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 1: You're talking, you know, Miles Garrett, people like that. I 95 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 1: really liked him at right tackle. Um, I think his 96 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 1: feet were fit for right tackle. Need to watch him 97 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: a little bit more at left tackle. I don't know, 98 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: you know how I feel with him over there. I 99 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:37,719 Speaker 1: think he's struggled in a few aspects. You know, some 100 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: of those reach blocks are on the outside zone that 101 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 1: you know we talked about earlier. Struggled to get over 102 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 1: there a little bit. So, you know, maybe work on 103 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: his feet a little bit. But I do like what 104 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 1: I see from him in camp. Pass protections awesome. He's 105 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 1: got such size you can't get around the guy. Once 106 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 1: he's got his hands on you. I mean he's really 107 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 1: locked in. So well, one more for you. I mean 108 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: you mentioned that the zone, you know, the outside zone, 109 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: and that's been a running rap that they've done a 110 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: number of times. I mean it continued today. I thought 111 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: a little bit more inside. But what can you just 112 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 1: tell us a little bit of insight in terms of 113 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 1: the outside zone kind of scheme, you know, going back 114 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 1: to the Broncos in the day, but you know, just 115 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: from the offensive lines perspective, because I think yesterday Evan 116 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 1: had you know, some good points that it's it has 117 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:19,479 Speaker 1: to all work in conjunction and timing, and that takes 118 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 1: time to wrap into practice and to get on the 119 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: same page. But you know, just from your experience and 120 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 1: what you've seen, what stands out to you about those 121 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:27,840 Speaker 1: outside zone kind of runs and that scheme that they 122 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 1: seem to be really heavily using. Well, outside zone is 123 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 1: an amazing play. It's simple, it's basic. But when it 124 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:37,599 Speaker 1: gets down to the blocking scheme of it, I mean 125 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 1: those guys have to be able to read the defensive line. 126 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: You know, if I have a three technique and he 127 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 1: shoots inside, I have to understand that when I'm at 128 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: right guard, I need to be able to work through 129 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 1: that guy so I can get to the back of 130 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 1: that I'm working too. And so you know, it's a 131 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: scheme that requires you to have really really athletic offensive linemen, 132 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: really quick offensive linemen. I don't necessarily know if we 133 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 1: have the quick offensive line like that, but they're so 134 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: skilled they understand what they're doing and where they're out 135 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: on the field. That outside zone can come together really, 136 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:10,359 Speaker 1: really nicely, especially if you get the wide receivers on 137 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:12,159 Speaker 1: the outside who can maintain their block so you can 138 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 1: get to the outside there. I mean, that's what it's for. 139 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 1: You want to you want to get leverage on those guys. So, yeah, 140 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 1: we've talked about that on the show quite a bit 141 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: about the outside zone scheme, trent On. WHENU you know, 142 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:25,720 Speaker 1: some of these bigger guys that maybe are built more 143 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: for men or gap blocking, and now they are transitioning 144 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 1: to this outside zone scheme, and I'm with you. I'm 145 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: interested to see how those bigger guys handle it, because 146 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 1: you know, Cole Strange is drafted, is a great combine athlete, 147 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: ran a lot of outside zone at Chattanooga. That that's 148 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 1: his bread and butter. That's why he's here is because 149 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 1: of how athletic he is. But some of these other 150 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 1: holdovers from what was really a downhill power type of 151 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: scheme before. It's going to be interesting to see if 152 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 1: those guys transition into it and who might be an 153 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: odd man out there because of that, And it's probably 154 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: more of a Patriots unfiltered topic. But the most athletic 155 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 1: lineman they probably we had with Shack Mason, who played 156 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 1: in a triple option and decided that he was too expensive. Right, 157 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:07,280 Speaker 1: and now you have Michael Owen use some questions about, 158 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: you know, how his athleticism will hold up if this 159 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 1: is in fact the wholesale change in. Of course there's 160 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick was asked about it this morning and said, 161 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: you know, we are going to be installing that other 162 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: stuff we've just been doing this first. We'll see how 163 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: true that is. But I think tomorrow is setting up 164 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: to be a big day. Today a little bit here 165 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: nor there, a couple I think turns Mitchell got his 166 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: hands on and I think at least one interception, so 167 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: he did stand out again. But otherwise, you know, not 168 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: a totally eventful day. But I think tomorrow is the 169 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: big one. So we will be back Tomorrow, Thursday, Friday 170 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: night in stadium practice, Probably not that much going on, 171 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: so I think if you're thinking tomorrow's the day, and 172 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: if you're bad about that Miami opener and the heat 173 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: down there, it's supposed to be just as hot here, 174 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: so I think it'll be a good preparation for that 175 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: game in the opening week. So that'll do it for 176 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: us for today on Wednesday. We'll catch you tomorrow on 177 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: Thursday on the campcast. 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