WEBVTT - S2E2 - A Door Into The Dark

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<v Speaker 1>Good morning, Good morning, Tom, good morning. How are you?

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<v Speaker 1>I am good, I'm good. Where are you today? We're

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<v Speaker 1>still in Italy, but we just checked into a different

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<v Speaker 1>hotel in Siena. We're doing like a little Italian talks

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<v Speaker 1>in a different hotel, which is nice. That's so wonderful. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for joining us again today, for making the

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<v Speaker 1>time to do this on your vocation. And here we

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<v Speaker 1>are to do the rewatch of season two, episode two,

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<v Speaker 1>A Door into the Dark It's right a Day January nine,

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand seventeen, Written by y Sharene Razac, director Andy Wolke,

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<v Speaker 1>Starring Katherine mcmara, Dominic Sherwood, Alberta Rozenni, Matt Dadario, Emerald

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<v Speaker 1>to be A, Isaaih Mustafa and Harry Sham Jr. Guest

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<v Speaker 1>stars Allen van Sprang, David Castro, Welcome back to season two,

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<v Speaker 1>Max and Roy, Nick Seagar, Stephanie Bennett, and of course

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<v Speaker 1>Vanessa Matsui. Which is super exciting to have little spoiler

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<v Speaker 1>that tell us what we're in for. So for this episode,

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<v Speaker 1>Clari longs for the good old days. Clary struggles to

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<v Speaker 1>find where she belongs, while Simon seeks Magnus's help. The

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<v Speaker 1>hunt is on for Jace Whaland and Alecan. Isabel hoped

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<v Speaker 1>to reach him before the rest of the shadow Hunters do.

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<v Speaker 1>With orders from the Clave of Shoot to kill. Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you very much to Jocelyn, the Lightwood siblings must act fast.

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<v Speaker 1>Also on his own search, Simon turns to Magnus for

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<v Speaker 1>help when he finds himself at odds with both Raphael

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<v Speaker 1>and alder Tree. Meanwhile, Clary struggles fine where she belongs

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<v Speaker 1>since she doesn't seem to fit into the shadow un

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<v Speaker 1>world yet can't go back to her mundane life. Everybody's

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<v Speaker 1>got a problem this episode. Problem. Yeah, this was filmed,

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<v Speaker 1>as we will talk about later with the wonderful tone

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<v Speaker 1>Torontonian unexpected whether in the last two weeks of August.

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<v Speaker 1>A slight goof appears when a steam whistle advertisement appears

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<v Speaker 1>in the episode, a brand that only existed in Canada

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<v Speaker 1>at the time of filming. Oh, that's funny, I had

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<v Speaker 1>no idea just that interesting. We'll have to keep an

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<v Speaker 1>eye out. I wonder when that is. And once again

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<v Speaker 1>we have Magnus's tendency to the book. Just screen reference

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<v Speaker 1>in this is Magnus taking down Wolders under his wing,

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<v Speaker 1>which I think is one of the my favorite story lines.

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<v Speaker 1>At least the relationship between you know, Raphael and Magnus

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<v Speaker 1>is always the verse sweet. It's maybe the one parent

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<v Speaker 1>child relationship quote unquote that's not really massed up functional. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>in the show, we have a whole bunch of talking points.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just running through this episode again, and there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot that happens in this episode. There's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of like it seems that everyone sort of has the

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<v Speaker 1>same goal for whatever that reason is, except for Simon

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<v Speaker 1>and Magnus, but everyone is going about in different ways

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<v Speaker 1>and taking different avenues. There's a whole bunch that happens.

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<v Speaker 1>We get in some mythology. I think i'll first mention

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<v Speaker 1>of the Iron Sisters. Is this episode exciting? Well foreshadowing

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<v Speaker 1>there a little foreshadowing, and with no more further ado,

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<v Speaker 1>why don't we just dive in? Absolutely so. This episode

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<v Speaker 1>starts with Clary hot on the heels of Jocelyn um well,

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<v Speaker 1>Jocelyn hot on the heels of Clary as she finally

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<v Speaker 1>confronts her mother about all of the secrets and all

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<v Speaker 1>of the lies and all of the everything, including why

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<v Speaker 1>did you just try and shoot your own son, slash

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<v Speaker 1>my brother, slash someone who matters a whole lot to

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<v Speaker 1>me and everyone in my life. We we start to

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<v Speaker 1>see a little bit of Jocelyn's dilemma in this case,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, there's a lot we don't know about

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<v Speaker 1>what happened, and there's a lot we don't know about

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<v Speaker 1>the frame Morganstern family. We start to uncover just how

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<v Speaker 1>dark and twisted it is, including the fact that Jason,

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<v Speaker 1>Jonathan Claire's brother for lack of a better word, has

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<v Speaker 1>demon blood in his veins thanks to Papa Valentine. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we the audience knew, but now Clary knows, and we

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<v Speaker 1>can assume that the rest of the shadow Hunters know

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<v Speaker 1>as well. Not great, not great, not great for anyone.

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<v Speaker 1>Mama Dearest is not being quite so dear. To be honest,

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<v Speaker 1>we did we did skip a scene. Did we start

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<v Speaker 1>this episode? Yeah, we start this episode directly picking up

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<v Speaker 1>from episode once. Jason Valentine have a oh that's right,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, a little cum flab but it just

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<v Speaker 1>sort of adds to the confusion in Jason's mind of

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<v Speaker 1>the effects of a rising down world and an ineffective

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<v Speaker 1>clave at sort of controlling the criminalistic elements of the

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<v Speaker 1>down world, as we just saw in the vampire tend

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<v Speaker 1>which will be important later because this vampire didn't of

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<v Speaker 1>ties in with Simon and all this, that and the other.

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<v Speaker 1>But you're absolutely right. Then we have a whole mother

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<v Speaker 1>daughter indeed, which which poor Simon is involved in. Bless him,

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't feel like this is why We're going to

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<v Speaker 1>find this more and more as the series goes on,

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<v Speaker 1>but he he is also very alienated from the place

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<v Speaker 1>that he thought he was. Became a vampire and had

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<v Speaker 1>to struggle with that and then got welcome sort of

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<v Speaker 1>back into the Clary Simon thing, and then when Mom

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<v Speaker 1>woke up, he was sort of no longer welcome as

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<v Speaker 1>part of that group, which is which is actually really sad.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought this was pretty rough to see when I

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<v Speaker 1>just rewatched it. It is it is. I mean, we

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<v Speaker 1>see Simon time and time again, Cotton middle of so

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<v Speaker 1>many things, whether it's Jason Clary, or Isabelle and Alec

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<v Speaker 1>or Camille and Ravel or whatever it may be. But

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<v Speaker 1>now we see him caught in between Clary and Jocelyn,

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<v Speaker 1>which is kind of an interesting place for him to

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<v Speaker 1>be because obviously he understands Jocelyn said of things and

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<v Speaker 1>wanting to protect Clary and wanting to do this, but

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<v Speaker 1>also he's been through this with Clary, and he's seen

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<v Speaker 1>and he's met Jason. He knows that he's, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>not not an evil dude inherently. Yeah. Yeah, well who

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<v Speaker 1>knows is the real is the real thing? Like you know, this,

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<v Speaker 1>I think is sort of one of the interesting dichotomy

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<v Speaker 1>is that that everyone was playing with and again, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>this was one of those episodes where I wasn't really

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<v Speaker 1>with anyone until the end, so I get to see

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<v Speaker 1>these little Idiosynchristie's in everyone's performances post date after with

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<v Speaker 1>the audience, and I think one of the interesting dynamics

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<v Speaker 1>here is like he is the best soldier, he is

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<v Speaker 1>the fastest, he is the strongest. But the difference, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess in psychology between being a hero and being a

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<v Speaker 1>villain would be if you were doing your job because

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<v Speaker 1>it was your duty, or if you're doing your job

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<v Speaker 1>because you enjoyed it. Yeah, And we don't know the

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<v Speaker 1>answer to that. We don't at this point, or you don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I do, but you don't. And I think what Valentine

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<v Speaker 1>is trying to convince Jay's to do is to enjoy

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<v Speaker 1>it exactly, which is dangerous anyway, And there is because

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<v Speaker 1>of Jas's and Clary's childhood slash lineage, slash, whatever you

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<v Speaker 1>wanna call it. There is a little bit of that

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<v Speaker 1>Morgenstern in them. There's a little bit of Valentine in

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<v Speaker 1>both of them in a way, and a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of that maybe sadistic is the wrong word, but that

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<v Speaker 1>that vengeance and that kind of rage that exists, and

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<v Speaker 1>and it's it's dangerous. But you know, I digress, because

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<v Speaker 1>now we end up back at the Institute with alder

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<v Speaker 1>Tree and Clary and all of the folks getting their orders.

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<v Speaker 1>We did get to see in the scene that you

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<v Speaker 1>were just talking about before we skip over it. We

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<v Speaker 1>did get to see potentially baby Jays. Oh yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I know. That's again. That's which which interestingly, we don't

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<v Speaker 1>use that room very much. It's again, it's only in

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<v Speaker 1>this episode particularly that the sort of memory transference power

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<v Speaker 1>is used. And I'm trying to remember if it's ever

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<v Speaker 1>used again, and I I think the only time is

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<v Speaker 1>Jonathan uses it once later on, or maybe he just

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<v Speaker 1>tells I can't remember, Maybe he just tells clearly about it,

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<v Speaker 1>possibly disuse the demonic. I don't know there's a memory

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<v Speaker 1>shared later, but I will have to we'll have to

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<v Speaker 1>wait and see how it's actually done. Um, but back

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<v Speaker 1>back to when we're you know, when we're in the

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<v Speaker 1>middle of this episode, we do get to see baby

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<v Speaker 1>Jay's who is very adorable. I would have heard you say,

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<v Speaker 1>even when his eyes are black and demonic. But although

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<v Speaker 1>we were just talking about it, Deco was just here

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<v Speaker 1>before She's scooted off to the pool so I could

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<v Speaker 1>do so I can work, and she was so we

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<v Speaker 1>were a bit like, it's a bit rough to sort

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<v Speaker 1>of cool your your baby evil just because he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>like the magnolias, like taking bush, Maybe that was was

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<v Speaker 1>all the issue. Maybe had analogy. There also was a

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<v Speaker 1>bee in that flower. I don't know if anyone noticed

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<v Speaker 1>there was a bee in that flower, Like you don't

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<v Speaker 1>putting a bee next year, newborn. Of course it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be piste. I understand that. I'm honestly just based on

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<v Speaker 1>that footage. I'm on on a side. I mean, look,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe he was just trying to protect mom. Maybe Jocelyn

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<v Speaker 1>is allergic to bees and he's like Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>be exact. Kill it exactly. I agree. I agree. Plus

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<v Speaker 1>he's a baby, you know, he can't he can't be

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<v Speaker 1>faulted and he just doesn't have a baby. Isn't that

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<v Speaker 1>a TikTok? I don't know. I don't know TikTok. Somebody

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<v Speaker 1>showed me yesterday and I was like, oh, baby, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. Anyway, Now we have Clary trying every avenue

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<v Speaker 1>she can to figure out who's going to help her

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<v Speaker 1>get James back. If her mom won't, it goes to Alec,

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<v Speaker 1>who we see in a real spot. He was not

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<v Speaker 1>the guy to go to. He was not happy with

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<v Speaker 1>Clary at all. You have a telescope. I have a

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<v Speaker 1>little telescope. Can you see Alex? Uh animal say Clary

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<v Speaker 1>the telescope? Oh there it is, I got it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there is yet a little closer device that is cool.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, we we try Clary, Claire tries to

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<v Speaker 1>apeel to Alec. And this is one of the first

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<v Speaker 1>times I got to work one on one with Matt

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<v Speaker 1>since season one, and he's just great. You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta love some Matt Dadaria gotta loves hi Matt Daria

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<v Speaker 1>Stoody Bassing Magidaria. We know the folks love that at home, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>he loves, he loves, he's good at he's good at

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<v Speaker 1>all of it. But he's what I noticed later on

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<v Speaker 1>is those sort of moments of Catharsis as an actor

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<v Speaker 1>where you get to unleash a little of, maybe some

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<v Speaker 1>of your animosity as a human being throughout something very

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<v Speaker 1>good at those, very very good at those. And also,

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<v Speaker 1>if you haven't seen it, go and watch Why Women Kill,

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<v Speaker 1>because it turns out he's very he's very funny. He

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<v Speaker 1>has been amazing comedic talent as well. So if you

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<v Speaker 1>haven't seen Why Women Kill season two, go and watch

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<v Speaker 1>Why Wold and Kill season two because the Scoots, his Scooter,

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<v Speaker 1>his character Scooter is fantastic. Well, we got to see

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<v Speaker 1>firsthand how funny Magdario is pretty much at any hour

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<v Speaker 1>of the day. But if you'd like to experience it

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<v Speaker 1>yourself at home, check it out. And now we're into

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<v Speaker 1>an interesting part of the show where we get the

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<v Speaker 1>dojo dojo for the first time. He's casting. Valentine is

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<v Speaker 1>casting for new people, kind of have you ever been

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<v Speaker 1>to a dance pool that's just like this, whether everyone

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<v Speaker 1>stands around and they're just like go in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>and do some stuff for us, and it's like horrifying. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what they've seen reminded me of so true. And

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<v Speaker 1>then it's just the rapture in the middle of it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And which is how it works in casting. If they

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<v Speaker 1>just like you get at the end of your little

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<v Speaker 1>like moment, they either give you like a nod or

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<v Speaker 1>a shake of the head and you're like, let's either

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<v Speaker 1>lights are on, all the lights are off, and you

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<v Speaker 1>just leave and that's the end of it. Although I

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<v Speaker 1>find that, you know, folks that practice martial arts are

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<v Speaker 1>usually very aware of their surroundings. And the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>these people can't figure out what happened. It's a bit perplexing,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, it is supernatural. I guess it is supernatural.

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<v Speaker 1>It would have My assumption is the lights went off

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<v Speaker 1>on a portal would have happened, and when he's in

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<v Speaker 1>the portal, that would be my assumption. I don't know. Rewatching,

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<v Speaker 1>now we're back at the institute, with Lydia giving orders

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<v Speaker 1>and Clary being purposely excluded from all this. I couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>help but have flashbacks to like those times in middle

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<v Speaker 1>school and high school when you know you find yourself

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<v Speaker 1>excluded from certain things. It hurt a little bit to rewatch. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>nobody wants to be excluded. I was like, I know this,

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<v Speaker 1>although in this case, nobody wants to be excluded. But

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<v Speaker 1>Clary has caused some trouble. They don't know if this

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<v Speaker 1>is the right avenue for her. The same fact, we

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<v Speaker 1>know it's not because we I just got to the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the episode and I know what happens, and

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<v Speaker 1>we know that it's not a good idea for you

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<v Speaker 1>to go on this mission. I mean true, you know

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of bias and emotions clouding judgment and

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<v Speaker 1>all those things that Shadow hunder Stock about all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, you really want to put alder Tree

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<v Speaker 1>in charge of this. Alder Tree is all, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>shoot to kill and Lydia's still you got her own trauma.

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<v Speaker 1>It was Lydia's cool to not send you no I know,

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<v Speaker 1>or invite you to the briefing. It was Lydia's cool. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>trust Lydia. We were so just by the way knock

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<v Speaker 1>on effects of you, of you taking your own actions,

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<v Speaker 1>accidentally getting kidnapped by dot spoiler alert should have said

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<v Speaker 1>that first. But a bunch of spoilers are coming out

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<v Speaker 1>here because it's all coming to me all at once.

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<v Speaker 1>Not effect kidnapped by Dot you get hypnotized. Jas ends

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<v Speaker 1>up going on the werewolf hunting mission. Werewolf dies because

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<v Speaker 1>of it. Jas gets blamed Episode three, gets the ship

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<v Speaker 1>kicked out of him by werewolves. I know we're not

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to, but like throwing through a window, okay, okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I get it. I get it. Look, Claire's a baby

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<v Speaker 1>shadow Hunter. She's got she's got some lessons to learn.

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<v Speaker 1>I understand. I know when is she going? Although it

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<v Speaker 1>is sad, It is sad. This is sad, but but

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<v Speaker 1>the one good thing we do get out of it

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<v Speaker 1>is this lovely moment between Clara and Isabelle, and I

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<v Speaker 1>do I do love the beginning of this scene as well,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's been a while since we've seen Clary go

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<v Speaker 1>back to Art's one of those things that's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>the root of who she is and later on becomes

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<v Speaker 1>the root of what her special skill, and you know

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of who who she is as a shadow

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<v Speaker 1>Hunter and who she is as a person. But this

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<v Speaker 1>notebook I always loved, and it was in Clary's room

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<v Speaker 1>for most of the time that we shot the show

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<v Speaker 1>and it they're the amazing lady from our department who

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<v Speaker 1>did all of Clary's drawings, had sketched so many different

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<v Speaker 1>things in this notebook and I would just flip through

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<v Speaker 1>it and find something new every time. And we use

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<v Speaker 1>so many of them in different scenes for different reasons.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm not even sure if half of it was

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<v Speaker 1>pre planned or if we got there and it just

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<v Speaker 1>ended up exactly. But it's the Institute, and it's Jason,

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<v Speaker 1>it's Simon, it's all of these elements. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>this is another one of those moments in the show

0:14:37.240 --> 0:14:41.880
<v Speaker 1>where Clary's lost. She has nothing to ground her, Her mother, Jason, Simon,

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<v Speaker 1>they're all kind of gone or against her or in

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<v Speaker 1>a place that she can't reach or doesn't understand. And

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<v Speaker 1>then to have Isabel come in there's another woman in

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<v Speaker 1>this world who could very easily be another one to

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<v Speaker 1>alienate her, and to have this moment of Izzy and

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<v Speaker 1>Clary where they get to bond and we get to

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<v Speaker 1>see this little bit of sisterhood come out, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>potential for those who have seen the show for the

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<v Speaker 1>future is uh. It's a really lovely moment it is. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>little little clues, little sprinklings of clues. This was our

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<v Speaker 1>utility bedroom at this point. I think it's this this

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<v Speaker 1>set actually was. I don't think we had them yet.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think we had our personal bedrooms that was

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<v Speaker 1>like mid either towards the end. Although we don't spend

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<v Speaker 1>a whole lot of time, especially you and I in

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<v Speaker 1>either of our bedrooms. In the first half season two,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a lot of like in the Woods dying, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>where that that happens, a lot of spoiler alert, but this,

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<v Speaker 1>this bedroom I think was Dizzy's, Alex and Clary's throughout

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<v Speaker 1>at least this part of season two. Yeah, poor Simon's

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<v Speaker 1>at loss again. We find Simon. We have a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of Aler. We do, we do. We're gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>him on the show. Joel is fun. We like Joel. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but we we see the even there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people in the middle of being pulled in different directions

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<v Speaker 1>in this episode, including Luke because he's you know, trying

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<v Speaker 1>to deal with Jason, Simon and Clary all of his

0:16:09.680 --> 0:16:12.240
<v Speaker 1>kids that are all over the place, but also you know,

0:16:12.760 --> 0:16:17.920
<v Speaker 1>Aleric reminds him, hey, guess what back. Yeah, the other responsibilities. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you still got stuff going on. Yeah, Poor Simon then

0:16:21.280 --> 0:16:23.920
<v Speaker 1>is getting bullied by the werewolves. He's got no place

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<v Speaker 1>to be except for the boat. Lesson m persons. The

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<v Speaker 1>basin is what I was trying to say, I think,

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<v Speaker 1>in which we find in said soon we find out

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<v Speaker 1>that Simon sucked up, so I'm sucked up talking to

0:16:41.040 --> 0:16:45.360
<v Speaker 1>older Tree accidentally blamed Raphael for something, and we do

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<v Speaker 1>get this little hint about how like against the Geneva

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<v Speaker 1>connnched convention, the Clave can be like they like this

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<v Speaker 1>active torturing thing, which I think we see later, don't

0:16:59.520 --> 0:17:01.680
<v Speaker 1>we do, but not by the Clays. It's not by

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<v Speaker 1>the Clay, but we do see it happen, right, see

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<v Speaker 1>it happen. Yeah, But the concept of this still happening,

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<v Speaker 1>still continuing, this sort of archaic procedural is horrific and

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<v Speaker 1>sort of you can't help but kind of feel for Rafael,

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<v Speaker 1>or at least I did in this, like sort this out.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to get nailed to across and have

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<v Speaker 1>beams of sunlight burn off my this that or the other,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean? Yeah, I mean, at this

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<v Speaker 1>point we've seen that the Raphael isn't you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>the the evil masterminded that we've seen in other episodes.

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<v Speaker 1>He's just a person who is trying to row a vampire,

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<v Speaker 1>a creature who's trying to make his way in the

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<v Speaker 1>world and trying to to do right by his people.

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<v Speaker 1>And Simon doesn't quite understand how the world works yet,

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<v Speaker 1>and very much in the same way that Clary doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>understand how the world works yet. And you know, everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody makes mistakes sometimes, and then we found out that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the shadow world has some serious consequences here.

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<v Speaker 1>I love watching these two work together. Though they're great,

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<v Speaker 1>they're just great. They've got such a good chemistry that

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<v Speaker 1>there's always this undertone of humor, but it's usually gallows humor,

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<v Speaker 1>which I appreciate. Well, they're both dead, so that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm back on the boat, back in Valentine's Den of Horrors,

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<v Speaker 1>back in the boat with young Jeremy, very handsome young

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<v Speaker 1>Jeremy here who lost his father, lost his father to

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<v Speaker 1>a werewolf and is seeking revenge. And this was a

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<v Speaker 1>cool scene because again fees into that sort of difficult dichotomy,

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<v Speaker 1>because that for a large part of season one was

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<v Speaker 1>sort of Jason's motivation was revenge. In fact, the first

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<v Speaker 1>time we see him kill human or shadowante, that's what

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<v Speaker 1>he says, this is from my father, from my father.

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<v Speaker 1>But then we found out Tricky because you like kind

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<v Speaker 1>of get it, these like young prodigies that have been

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<v Speaker 1>like hurt and want to fix that hurt. Sort of

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<v Speaker 1>understand when just Trick, Hey, you have corrected trauma. Let

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<v Speaker 1>me utilize that and turn your auto weapon. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's where we're at. Jason is still unsure, but that's

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<v Speaker 1>the crux of that scene. Jeremy's going on mission, MoMA's

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<v Speaker 1>coming searching for Clary Ferry. Where are you. I've got

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<v Speaker 1>black coffee with lots of sugar, a little bit of callback. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well that's just Clarry. That's black coffee, black with sugar.

0:19:23.320 --> 0:19:26.040
<v Speaker 1>That's Clary's thing. That'sn't my thing, but that that's what's

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<v Speaker 1>going to sort you out on Like brother's gone. You

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<v Speaker 1>just tried to murder him, leave baggage, like I got

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<v Speaker 1>a coffee, and I've got a coffee for you because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm leaving the shadow world behind. In a sense,

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<v Speaker 1>that's this, this is what you're trying to do here.

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<v Speaker 1>You're just like giving up on everything. Yeah, basically because

0:19:45.560 --> 0:19:48.280
<v Speaker 1>nobody wants there's Clary is feeling a little sorry for herself.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. Everybody's like, we don't want you, you don't

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<v Speaker 1>belong to go away, what are you doing here? Just like, well, fine,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll just take a hike them. Wow. I didn't. That's

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't read that when I watched the episode. Probably

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<v Speaker 1>should have because I read the scutch, so I should

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<v Speaker 1>have remembered, but I didn't. I didn't at all. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>I just thought you were taking a break. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>you were just off, like I just need a little

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<v Speaker 1>me time, which even that I thought was a little selfish.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, well whatever, she's a little selfish from time

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<v Speaker 1>to time. We all need some me time. I get it.

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<v Speaker 1>This scene with Clarie walking down the street I have

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<v Speaker 1>very specific memories of because we really weren't supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>be shooting on the street in Toronto, I'm not exactly sure,

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<v Speaker 1>or at least on this part of the street, because

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<v Speaker 1>it was it was near Union Station, it was rush hour,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was me and Matt and I think Glenn

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<v Speaker 1>with a little camp the little camera that we had,

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<v Speaker 1>just just walking down the street back and forth. Right

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<v Speaker 1>there by Union Station. Looks great, it looks great. We

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<v Speaker 1>had a bunch of I think it was one of

0:21:06.560 --> 0:21:09.520
<v Speaker 1>those times where, you know, as some folks may not know,

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<v Speaker 1>when you're shooting in a city on a street, there's

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<v Speaker 1>not often time to get releases from everyone who just

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<v Speaker 1>happens to be there. So instead what they do is

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<v Speaker 1>they put a little sandwich board near where we're shooting, going, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>if you walk past this point, you consent to being

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<v Speaker 1>on camera. And it was one of those times. But

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<v Speaker 1>as rush hour it was they honestly, they all look

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<v Speaker 1>like paid backgrounds. Like everyone behaves flawlessly, nobody's looking at

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<v Speaker 1>the camera. It's incredible. I don't know how they pulled

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<v Speaker 1>that off. They did a really good job. Great job.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you citizens of Toronto circa. Thank you citizens, so many,

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<v Speaker 1>so many reasons over the course of true. Oh here's

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<v Speaker 1>a little fun tidbit that I didn't catch until right now.

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<v Speaker 1>When we see Alec and Izzy walking into this side door.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the same door I think that we walked

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<v Speaker 1>out of before YouTube Parabatie tracked in episode four because

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<v Speaker 1>it used to be hard tail this side of the studio.

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<v Speaker 1>See him, because do you see the little the little

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<v Speaker 1>walkway up top where the raccoons. Yep, you're absolutely right.

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<v Speaker 1>And the Spike Club used to beat your noble Oh

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<v Speaker 1>did it? Yes it did. Yeah, you're absolutely right. Yes

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<v Speaker 1>it did. To the machinery, another gutted room in a

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<v Speaker 1>weird studio that we had, a weird, little family run studio,

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<v Speaker 1>you know the best of it. Yeah, we utilized their space. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>use a bunch of stuff here, which is kind of neat.

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<v Speaker 1>This is fun. I really liked this scene. I remember

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<v Speaker 1>this scene being like so like Broi and Matt show,

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<v Speaker 1>and then when he stepped in and was like, no, now,

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<v Speaker 1>let me put you in your place. I love that,

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<v Speaker 1>and even even like kind of put Alec in his place,

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<v Speaker 1>like no, no, no no, no, I don't need brother doing this.

0:22:51.000 --> 0:22:53.040
<v Speaker 1>I got this, I got I got this. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>that's cool, that's really cool. That's the way it's done,

0:22:55.920 --> 0:22:57.879
<v Speaker 1>you know, that's the way we do at Shadow Hunters.

0:22:58.160 --> 0:23:00.879
<v Speaker 1>And then we get one of my favorite storylines in

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<v Speaker 1>the entire series, Simon and Magnus. Simon and Magnus. This

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<v Speaker 1>whole section is great, all the way through the portals,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's all this whole stuff. I love all of

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<v Speaker 1>this is brilliant. Yeah, this is another element that I

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<v Speaker 1>just loved that Alberto did. It's the sickening nature of

0:23:19.480 --> 0:23:23.040
<v Speaker 1>portal travel. We don't really get to see anyone because

0:23:23.040 --> 0:23:24.840
<v Speaker 1>the shadow hanger is just kind of are made for it.

0:23:24.960 --> 0:23:27.000
<v Speaker 1>So we all just have stepped through and it's fine,

0:23:27.000 --> 0:23:29.919
<v Speaker 1>even Clary, but for Simon, he wasn't made for this.

0:23:30.160 --> 0:23:33.520
<v Speaker 1>He's still getting used to this world and it's you know,

0:23:33.560 --> 0:23:36.560
<v Speaker 1>it gives a sort of reality to the world in

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<v Speaker 1>a way because people would you know, these are things

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<v Speaker 1>are normal. We have to adjust to all these forces. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I always love the business that Harry finds in this apartment.

0:23:47.440 --> 0:23:49.800
<v Speaker 1>He had so many things and he's always doing something

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<v Speaker 1>and he just owns the space. Yeah, it's his, it's

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<v Speaker 1>his space. I love that. This next scene, so cycle

0:23:57.400 --> 0:24:01.040
<v Speaker 1>member comes in tries to kidnap Oh my goodness, it's

0:24:01.040 --> 0:24:05.880
<v Speaker 1>dizzy change. Everything's good, little Shenanigan there. But we really

0:24:05.880 --> 0:24:08.439
<v Speaker 1>got to see the level that they gave us the

0:24:08.480 --> 0:24:11.920
<v Speaker 1>ability to darken the show, like how far they were

0:24:12.200 --> 0:24:15.760
<v Speaker 1>then able to go with someone actually drawing a knife

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<v Speaker 1>across his throat, which is something we did not see

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<v Speaker 1>in in season one. They wouldn't have let us even

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<v Speaker 1>get close to that, not even a little bit sort

0:24:22.720 --> 0:24:26.680
<v Speaker 1>of see which and it's quite shocking, like it's quite visceral,

0:24:26.800 --> 0:24:29.159
<v Speaker 1>and it's actually quite like even me watching it, I

0:24:29.200 --> 0:24:31.359
<v Speaker 1>was like, oh wow, it's only ship. I can't believe

0:24:31.359 --> 0:24:33.640
<v Speaker 1>they let us do that. That's crazy, But it does.

0:24:34.600 --> 0:24:38.359
<v Speaker 1>It's not for nothing, you know, It's it shows this

0:24:38.359 --> 0:24:46.000
<v Speaker 1>this brutality and the urgency, like the I guess the yeah,

0:24:46.040 --> 0:24:49.000
<v Speaker 1>the mortality of the situation that all of these people

0:24:49.000 --> 0:24:51.200
<v Speaker 1>are in, Like it's it literally is life or death,

0:24:51.240 --> 0:24:54.560
<v Speaker 1>and that's the real problem. It really shows, you know,

0:24:55.080 --> 0:25:00.439
<v Speaker 1>the lengths to which Valentine has inspired loyalty in all

0:25:00.480 --> 0:25:06.000
<v Speaker 1>of these people and the enemy that we're fishing. Yeah,

0:25:06.040 --> 0:25:08.800
<v Speaker 1>but now you know a little little light Brooklyn Academy

0:25:08.800 --> 0:25:14.520
<v Speaker 1>of Art situation. Yeah, he's just broken. The sounds this

0:25:14.680 --> 0:25:17.439
<v Speaker 1>time was that you I don't they're not mine, but

0:25:17.520 --> 0:25:23.520
<v Speaker 1>they're outside my apartment. Oh no, I love it. You

0:25:23.680 --> 0:25:28.159
<v Speaker 1>literally have my shirt says puppies it backwards, But what

0:25:28.280 --> 0:25:29.800
<v Speaker 1>it says it backwards to you. For me, it says

0:25:29.840 --> 0:25:33.480
<v Speaker 1>it the right way. I think this is company to

0:25:33.520 --> 0:25:36.320
<v Speaker 1>make me happy on it. Yeah, that is Nina's but

0:25:38.160 --> 0:25:40.520
<v Speaker 1>we're breaking into the Brooklyn Academy of Art. Clary learned

0:25:40.520 --> 0:25:43.480
<v Speaker 1>her lesson in one respect, and remember the soundless room

0:25:43.680 --> 0:25:46.639
<v Speaker 1>and the glamour room this time so you can use it.

0:25:46.800 --> 0:25:50.439
<v Speaker 1>You don't have your status, that's right. That's broken, just

0:25:50.760 --> 0:25:55.240
<v Speaker 1>regularly broken to a university, just a little breaking and entering.

0:25:55.359 --> 0:25:59.639
<v Speaker 1>It's fine. Technically I was accepted there, so maybe it wasn't.

0:26:00.200 --> 0:26:01.679
<v Speaker 1>I think there might be a little shock that you

0:26:01.960 --> 0:26:04.560
<v Speaker 1>have spent hasn't even that long, has it. It's only

0:26:04.600 --> 0:26:07.440
<v Speaker 1>been like two weeks, a couple of weeks, the first

0:26:07.440 --> 0:26:09.359
<v Speaker 1>two weeks. That's true. You might you might have already

0:26:09.400 --> 0:26:12.240
<v Speaker 1>had a badge. Yeah, you're right. Okay, it wasn't even

0:26:12.359 --> 0:26:14.400
<v Speaker 1>be an eat. Just come in and say hi, guys.

0:26:14.480 --> 0:26:16.800
<v Speaker 1>It's going to do a little skyline drawing. There's a

0:26:16.800 --> 0:26:19.400
<v Speaker 1>little element of this section of the episode as well,

0:26:19.400 --> 0:26:21.600
<v Speaker 1>where you see you know what shadow Hunter her parents

0:26:21.600 --> 0:26:24.639
<v Speaker 1>are like with Luke and Jocelyn kind of like, well,

0:26:24.640 --> 0:26:26.720
<v Speaker 1>I know where she is because a tractor, but I'm

0:26:26.760 --> 0:26:30.280
<v Speaker 1>just letting her door thing until she lives. It's like

0:26:30.320 --> 0:26:32.600
<v Speaker 1>that mom and dad playing against each other. It is

0:26:32.680 --> 0:26:36.440
<v Speaker 1>mom and dad. It's justin and this is like crazy, manipulative,

0:26:36.840 --> 0:26:39.120
<v Speaker 1>and I get that it's fear that's leading her that way.

0:26:39.280 --> 0:26:42.960
<v Speaker 1>I understand, and we will come to understand why she

0:26:43.080 --> 0:26:47.199
<v Speaker 1>behaved this way, why she is so overly cautious on

0:26:47.240 --> 0:26:51.560
<v Speaker 1>the verge of tyranness, which is a shame because she doesn't.

0:26:51.640 --> 0:26:59.640
<v Speaker 1>But there go two episodes. Two episodes come on. It's

0:26:59.640 --> 0:27:06.240
<v Speaker 1>only too more episodes. That's rough. Anyway, we're in what

0:27:06.280 --> 0:27:10.080
<v Speaker 1>was it a bar? I keep saying Agribar, but that's

0:27:10.280 --> 0:27:14.520
<v Speaker 1>the fictitious town from a ladder. It's not ag I

0:27:14.520 --> 0:27:18.359
<v Speaker 1>think it's Agra. It is well done, very well done.

0:27:19.119 --> 0:27:22.600
<v Speaker 1>It is, in fact, are also amazing job visual effects team.

0:27:22.760 --> 0:27:25.679
<v Speaker 1>We did not have actions in Agra the portal and

0:27:25.840 --> 0:27:29.199
<v Speaker 1>the green screen, the whole backdrop. This is pre They

0:27:29.200 --> 0:27:31.959
<v Speaker 1>would have been on the roof of the studio. This

0:27:32.040 --> 0:27:35.720
<v Speaker 1>is pre so by late season two the beginning of

0:27:35.760 --> 0:27:38.200
<v Speaker 1>season three, we had a three and sixty degree green

0:27:38.280 --> 0:27:40.760
<v Speaker 1>screen stage, so if they wanted to put something on

0:27:40.800 --> 0:27:42.840
<v Speaker 1>the back, you didn't have to worry about lighting or

0:27:43.840 --> 0:27:45.600
<v Speaker 1>different things coming in. It was inside a studio and

0:27:45.600 --> 0:27:47.159
<v Speaker 1>it was three in degrees. It's how they do a

0:27:47.200 --> 0:27:50.840
<v Speaker 1>lot of the Star Wars shows now. But we didn't

0:27:50.880 --> 0:27:53.080
<v Speaker 1>have that yet, so they were just on a roof

0:27:53.240 --> 0:27:56.199
<v Speaker 1>and folks v effects and Philippe would have had to

0:27:56.480 --> 0:28:00.840
<v Speaker 1>paint everything out and then paint everything back in this

0:28:01.320 --> 0:28:04.119
<v Speaker 1>I vividly remember this episode because from the moment we

0:28:04.160 --> 0:28:06.920
<v Speaker 1>got back season two, Philip had been given a heads

0:28:06.960 --> 0:28:10.080
<v Speaker 1>up about something that happens later in the episode, and

0:28:10.119 --> 0:28:12.320
<v Speaker 1>he was so excited because he built it from scratch.

0:28:12.960 --> 0:28:18.119
<v Speaker 1>M and it looks fantastically fantastic? Is that? Do we

0:28:18.160 --> 0:28:21.000
<v Speaker 1>get to see that now? So they're trying to find

0:28:21.000 --> 0:28:24.159
<v Speaker 1>Camille because in order to exonerate Raphael, they've got to

0:28:24.200 --> 0:28:27.080
<v Speaker 1>find Camille, and Magnus and Camille have their own history,

0:28:27.560 --> 0:28:29.480
<v Speaker 1>and so mag just click. Fine, I've got a bone

0:28:29.520 --> 0:28:32.880
<v Speaker 1>to pick with my ex so I'm gonna go pick it. Yep,

0:28:33.200 --> 0:28:37.199
<v Speaker 1>he finds a bunch of his ship. Listen, I'd be

0:28:37.240 --> 0:28:41.720
<v Speaker 1>piste to a ming a Ming dynasty. VARs was be

0:28:41.760 --> 0:28:44.600
<v Speaker 1>worth an absolute fortune, especially in the condition it's in.

0:28:45.680 --> 0:28:48.480
<v Speaker 1>Unacceptable Camille. Not that we didn't need another reason to

0:28:48.560 --> 0:28:51.320
<v Speaker 1>hate you. I do love the fact that we get

0:28:51.360 --> 0:28:55.400
<v Speaker 1>to see these little elements of how different creatures in

0:28:55.440 --> 0:28:57.600
<v Speaker 1>the Shadow World can connect and the common ground that

0:28:57.640 --> 0:29:00.160
<v Speaker 1>they can have, you know, for example, a warlock who

0:29:00.640 --> 0:29:04.880
<v Speaker 1>is immortal will collect things that he's experienced in little items,

0:29:05.000 --> 0:29:09.240
<v Speaker 1>and we know vampires have a propensity to collect slash steel,

0:29:09.720 --> 0:29:13.600
<v Speaker 1>valuable items. Great word, I've never heard propensity before. I

0:29:13.600 --> 0:29:16.920
<v Speaker 1>don't even know that word means good job. Oh and

0:29:16.960 --> 0:29:21.800
<v Speaker 1>then we have Clary back to art, Clary drawing boost

0:29:21.840 --> 0:29:27.120
<v Speaker 1>down the door, and parents coming to try and chastise. Yeah,

0:29:27.160 --> 0:29:31.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean Clary. Luke's face, Isaiah's face is just calming.

0:29:31.720 --> 0:29:35.400
<v Speaker 1>Just even having him there is I just feel stress

0:29:36.120 --> 0:29:38.880
<v Speaker 1>leave me, which it's really quite pleasant. I don't even

0:29:38.920 --> 0:29:41.360
<v Speaker 1>have the sound on, it's just the subtitles and I'm

0:29:41.360 --> 0:29:44.560
<v Speaker 1>watching the images. It just looks nice. He's just such

0:29:44.600 --> 0:29:47.280
<v Speaker 1>a dad, you know. That's the thing I've always I

0:29:47.280 --> 0:29:50.320
<v Speaker 1>I still call him dad because he just he didn't

0:29:50.360 --> 0:29:52.400
<v Speaker 1>he gives the best advice. Like you said, he's such

0:29:52.400 --> 0:29:56.480
<v Speaker 1>a calming presence. It's I understand Clary's plight in this,

0:29:56.680 --> 0:30:00.840
<v Speaker 1>I really do. But there's a little bit she's still

0:30:00.880 --> 0:30:03.080
<v Speaker 1>a little girl in a little bit of a since

0:30:03.120 --> 0:30:04.760
<v Speaker 1>she's not a little girl, her name is not a

0:30:04.760 --> 0:30:07.000
<v Speaker 1>little girl. But she's got a little growing up to do.

0:30:07.160 --> 0:30:08.880
<v Speaker 1>You know, she has to understand we've seen the stakes

0:30:08.920 --> 0:30:11.520
<v Speaker 1>of the world in this episode, and I feel like

0:30:11.560 --> 0:30:15.640
<v Speaker 1>she's still lost and caught in between. But that's just

0:30:15.800 --> 0:30:19.440
<v Speaker 1>the chink in her armor that we need when she

0:30:19.520 --> 0:30:25.480
<v Speaker 1>runs out and finds very sick. Dot she didn't look great. Yeah,

0:30:25.520 --> 0:30:28.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean she looks great in the sense that, you know,

0:30:28.920 --> 0:30:33.640
<v Speaker 1>good job to make up. We thought she was dead,

0:30:33.960 --> 0:30:36.920
<v Speaker 1>so she looks better than that, just by a little

0:30:37.040 --> 0:30:40.040
<v Speaker 1>but as a live human being or live warlocks done

0:30:40.080 --> 0:30:44.240
<v Speaker 1>the great not looking great. Veins going on, all kinds

0:30:44.240 --> 0:30:49.920
<v Speaker 1>of poison veins. It's not ideal. It's all right. She

0:30:50.040 --> 0:30:53.000
<v Speaker 1>redeems herself later on this episode, Yes, I think I'm

0:30:53.000 --> 0:30:58.200
<v Speaker 1>pretty sure, Yes she does. She doesn't. Yeh. In a minute.

0:30:58.320 --> 0:31:02.040
<v Speaker 1>But we're back in the boat in the horror show,

0:31:02.560 --> 0:31:05.360
<v Speaker 1>the horror show, the menagerie, the prison, and you're about

0:31:05.360 --> 0:31:10.880
<v Speaker 1>to be given a new ability, a new ability. Here

0:31:11.040 --> 0:31:15.040
<v Speaker 1>let me give you another another another thing. Interestingly, I

0:31:15.080 --> 0:31:19.040
<v Speaker 1>think die hard fans will have known that this was

0:31:19.080 --> 0:31:23.760
<v Speaker 1>a trick early, because that is all footage from season one. Yeah,

0:31:24.200 --> 0:31:26.480
<v Speaker 1>all of the flashes of footage from Steve season one,

0:31:26.760 --> 0:31:31.760
<v Speaker 1>Stephen one, Stephen Stephen one. I don't know, I will

0:31:31.760 --> 0:31:33.600
<v Speaker 1>say when I was shooting this. The one thing I

0:31:33.680 --> 0:31:36.320
<v Speaker 1>kept thinking of was you know that a game where

0:31:36.320 --> 0:31:38.320
<v Speaker 1>you like smish your first and then try and make

0:31:38.360 --> 0:31:43.080
<v Speaker 1>different faces. No, nope, okay, well that's what that felt

0:31:43.080 --> 0:31:51.280
<v Speaker 1>like because grabbed my first memory. That's all I could think.

0:31:51.640 --> 0:31:59.200
<v Speaker 1>The fish one face. I don't think fish make the

0:31:59.240 --> 0:32:02.160
<v Speaker 1>noise I was making. Know they might. I don't know

0:32:02.400 --> 0:32:09.040
<v Speaker 1>underwater about the puffer fish thing? What do we talk

0:32:09.080 --> 0:32:11.280
<v Speaker 1>about that? I never mentioned this to you. I've been

0:32:11.320 --> 0:32:12.960
<v Speaker 1>talking about this a lot recently because I saw a

0:32:13.080 --> 0:32:18.600
<v Speaker 1>video of a puffer fish deflating, and I just as

0:32:18.640 --> 0:32:22.880
<v Speaker 1>a kid who had this image, and I didn't ever

0:32:22.960 --> 0:32:24.760
<v Speaker 1>get past it. You're just like, oh, that's that piece

0:32:24.760 --> 0:32:26.680
<v Speaker 1>of information checked off for me. It doesn't ever need

0:32:26.720 --> 0:32:29.240
<v Speaker 1>to be questioned. And of course it's wrong now when

0:32:29.240 --> 0:32:31.959
<v Speaker 1>you think about it analytically. But I just assumed they

0:32:31.960 --> 0:32:34.360
<v Speaker 1>were full of air. I just had assumed that they

0:32:34.360 --> 0:32:36.160
<v Speaker 1>were full of air like balloons. Of course they're not,

0:32:36.200 --> 0:32:38.760
<v Speaker 1>they're fish. But I saw one deflate out of the

0:32:38.800 --> 0:32:43.000
<v Speaker 1>water and it just spits out a bunch of water.

0:32:43.480 --> 0:32:45.160
<v Speaker 1>Of course it's a fish. Where are they going to

0:32:45.200 --> 0:32:50.120
<v Speaker 1>get air from? Oh that's not how that works. They

0:32:50.240 --> 0:32:52.520
<v Speaker 1>can draw the oxygen out of the water. But no,

0:32:52.600 --> 0:32:56.640
<v Speaker 1>they're full of water. Is also otherwise they would just

0:32:56.640 --> 0:32:59.960
<v Speaker 1>float their little balloons. They consider the bottom. They would

0:33:00.040 --> 0:33:04.080
<v Speaker 1>always wondered, and I just had no idea. Blew my mind.

0:33:04.080 --> 0:33:06.160
<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh yeah, but also like, of course

0:33:06.400 --> 0:33:12.120
<v Speaker 1>it's a fish. I mean, yeah, anyway, well every day

0:33:13.200 --> 0:33:15.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't even really remember how we got into that

0:33:15.480 --> 0:33:20.560
<v Speaker 1>because we face Yeah, a little fun science facts from

0:33:20.600 --> 0:33:23.080
<v Speaker 1>domin Cat on the pod. Yes, we always, we always

0:33:23.160 --> 0:33:25.760
<v Speaker 1>end up there. You can fact check me as well.

0:33:25.800 --> 0:33:29.400
<v Speaker 1>But if you disagree, I don't care. I'm just gonna

0:33:29.480 --> 0:33:33.600
<v Speaker 1>keep telling people this. We are finally. I think the

0:33:33.640 --> 0:33:37.280
<v Speaker 1>shot that Philip was excited about that you were talking about,

0:33:37.360 --> 0:33:39.240
<v Speaker 1>is this one you were talking about. Yeah, I think

0:33:39.240 --> 0:33:41.120
<v Speaker 1>it was. But first we have a little scene with

0:33:41.320 --> 0:33:43.680
<v Speaker 1>is He and Alec walking in the street, which I

0:33:43.720 --> 0:33:45.960
<v Speaker 1>sort of love because you get to see a lot

0:33:46.000 --> 0:33:48.960
<v Speaker 1>of Toronto. You get to see the Bruto company that

0:33:49.040 --> 0:33:52.360
<v Speaker 1>we love and the second Cup coffee and a nice

0:33:52.400 --> 0:33:55.880
<v Speaker 1>little thing. But it plays back into it's a little

0:33:55.880 --> 0:33:58.280
<v Speaker 1>foreshadowing for next episode. I think when we're talking about

0:33:58.280 --> 0:34:01.880
<v Speaker 1>the Parabity room and how that bond and how it's

0:34:01.880 --> 0:34:05.280
<v Speaker 1>affected by everything that's going on. But now, yes, we

0:34:05.320 --> 0:34:09.279
<v Speaker 1>are back at the scene because you know, Magnus and

0:34:09.360 --> 0:34:12.880
<v Speaker 1>Simon off on a little errand and then times exploring

0:34:12.960 --> 0:34:15.080
<v Speaker 1>try and think meal and of course the place is

0:34:15.080 --> 0:34:19.160
<v Speaker 1>booby trapped. It is booby well, I don't think it

0:34:19.239 --> 0:34:23.839
<v Speaker 1>is booby trapped though, it's just not Simon friendly. But

0:34:23.880 --> 0:34:26.399
<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's booby trapped because he because this

0:34:27.040 --> 0:34:32.000
<v Speaker 1>ends up being Magnus's friend. Oh, that's that's fair. It's

0:34:32.080 --> 0:34:35.680
<v Speaker 1>just like it's just a cute little snake. Honestly, it

0:34:35.680 --> 0:34:39.440
<v Speaker 1>looks like a real snake. It does, and this was

0:34:39.480 --> 0:34:42.799
<v Speaker 1>created by our folks VFX team. It looks so good.

0:34:43.040 --> 0:34:45.480
<v Speaker 1>Every time I watch it back it gets me because

0:34:45.480 --> 0:34:48.760
<v Speaker 1>it just might as well have had a snake wrangler. Oddly,

0:34:48.840 --> 0:34:52.920
<v Speaker 1>we do have snake wranglers on Walker Independence, but not

0:34:52.920 --> 0:34:55.319
<v Speaker 1>not because we have snakes in the show, but trying

0:34:55.360 --> 0:34:59.239
<v Speaker 1>to keep them away. Yeah, of course do you not?

0:34:59.320 --> 0:35:02.480
<v Speaker 1>Would you not need um? New Mexico is also spiders

0:35:02.520 --> 0:35:05.160
<v Speaker 1>and scorpions, right, You need guys to make you aware,

0:35:05.440 --> 0:35:10.560
<v Speaker 1>or to at least try and maybe wrangler. I don't know.

0:35:10.600 --> 0:35:12.719
<v Speaker 1>I don't think it might just be a dangerous animals

0:35:13.120 --> 0:35:15.799
<v Speaker 1>wrangler because they'll have anti venom and stuff as well

0:35:15.800 --> 0:35:19.200
<v Speaker 1>in case you get caught. Sure you would think, I

0:35:19.239 --> 0:35:21.440
<v Speaker 1>don't know. I'm not a snake wrangler, so I don't know,

0:35:21.480 --> 0:35:23.680
<v Speaker 1>but you kind of hope. So what do you have?

0:35:23.800 --> 0:35:26.480
<v Speaker 1>Do you know what you have there? Rattlesnakes? Oh it

0:35:26.560 --> 0:35:32.239
<v Speaker 1>is rattlesnakes like diamondbacks. Yeah, super deadly. Yeah. Do you

0:35:32.280 --> 0:35:37.880
<v Speaker 1>check your shoes? I will from know on push you

0:35:37.880 --> 0:35:40.120
<v Speaker 1>don't want to put your foot in there. Off the

0:35:40.160 --> 0:35:43.239
<v Speaker 1>snake real quick. Yeah, although my little eighteen hundreds of

0:35:43.239 --> 0:35:47.520
<v Speaker 1>boots with the extremely non functional heels are probably not

0:35:47.640 --> 0:35:51.320
<v Speaker 1>the home for snakes. They have you in like actual

0:35:51.360 --> 0:35:54.040
<v Speaker 1>period costume. They haven't made it more comfortable in anyway.

0:35:54.280 --> 0:35:57.240
<v Speaker 1>I mean, they've offered, but i'd rather have the posture

0:35:57.360 --> 0:35:59.359
<v Speaker 1>of the corset and the shoes and things like that.

0:35:59.400 --> 0:36:01.000
<v Speaker 1>I do have its now in case I need to

0:36:01.080 --> 0:36:04.680
<v Speaker 1>run or something that are basically like Doc Martin's. But yeah,

0:36:04.800 --> 0:36:07.319
<v Speaker 1>something I've learned is that those heels that were made

0:36:07.400 --> 0:36:10.040
<v Speaker 1>for the eighteen hundreds, they were basically just a hindrance

0:36:10.200 --> 0:36:13.440
<v Speaker 1>for women. It didn't help at all. They're not you

0:36:13.480 --> 0:36:16.480
<v Speaker 1>don't really do anything except make you slower. It's just

0:36:16.520 --> 0:36:20.279
<v Speaker 1>a chunk of wood, wasn't it. Like? Yeah, and the

0:36:20.320 --> 0:36:23.880
<v Speaker 1>shape specifically actually makes it harder to do things, but hey,

0:36:24.120 --> 0:36:27.719
<v Speaker 1>I love a challenge, you know that. Now we're back

0:36:27.760 --> 0:36:30.520
<v Speaker 1>to as you mentioned earlier, our first mentioned of the

0:36:30.560 --> 0:36:33.680
<v Speaker 1>Iron Sisters, which, for those who don't know from the books,

0:36:33.800 --> 0:36:38.160
<v Speaker 1>are these sort of I guess the closest thing shadow

0:36:38.239 --> 0:36:41.279
<v Speaker 1>hunters have two nuns as it were, but they're they're

0:36:41.560 --> 0:36:44.120
<v Speaker 1>female shadow hunters who dedicate there. Much like the Silent

0:36:44.160 --> 0:36:48.399
<v Speaker 1>Brothers dedicate their lives to ruins and clairvoyance and seeing

0:36:48.400 --> 0:36:51.399
<v Speaker 1>the future, the Iron Sisters dedicate their lives to making

0:36:51.440 --> 0:36:53.440
<v Speaker 1>all of the weapons of the shadow world. So they

0:36:53.440 --> 0:36:55.560
<v Speaker 1>are the only ones that are end gear. They're the

0:36:55.600 --> 0:36:57.719
<v Speaker 1>only ones that are able to handle atom Us and

0:36:57.719 --> 0:37:00.480
<v Speaker 1>all of these other elements because they, you know, they

0:37:00.520 --> 0:37:03.400
<v Speaker 1>dedicate their lives to learning how to do that and

0:37:03.440 --> 0:37:06.120
<v Speaker 1>to gaining those skills and powers. We found out that

0:37:06.200 --> 0:37:09.920
<v Speaker 1>Luke's mother wasn't ourn sister, she was indeed, and he

0:37:09.960 --> 0:37:16.120
<v Speaker 1>breaks them. Do we know she's dead? Ah? Sorry, she's

0:37:16.200 --> 0:37:18.479
<v Speaker 1>very dead. I believe if we go back to the books,

0:37:18.520 --> 0:37:20.959
<v Speaker 1>I think Valentine might have killed her or she died

0:37:21.000 --> 0:37:23.720
<v Speaker 1>in that war somehow. I know he's a bad brutal,

0:37:24.239 --> 0:37:27.600
<v Speaker 1>that he's bad to be wrong, but I just assume

0:37:27.640 --> 0:37:30.000
<v Speaker 1>if it's somebody that somebody we know cares about, Valentine

0:37:30.080 --> 0:37:32.640
<v Speaker 1>killed them or had a hand in it. Yeah, that

0:37:33.960 --> 0:37:39.240
<v Speaker 1>makes sense. But we get a little parabatite crystal gem

0:37:39.440 --> 0:37:44.000
<v Speaker 1>rock helpful as chunk of the of the city that

0:37:44.040 --> 0:37:48.320
<v Speaker 1>he's just left. Let's hope it wasn't load bearing, which

0:37:48.400 --> 0:37:52.760
<v Speaker 1>brings us very neatly to the offer, the danger offer.

0:37:53.400 --> 0:37:56.520
<v Speaker 1>You can find where your parabatae is, but it might

0:37:56.640 --> 0:37:59.160
<v Speaker 1>kill you. Although I don't think we find that out

0:37:59.360 --> 0:38:00.960
<v Speaker 1>in this scene. I think we find out in the

0:38:02.000 --> 0:38:04.719
<v Speaker 1>but the offer is there. I will say though, that's

0:38:04.800 --> 0:38:07.480
<v Speaker 1>kind of always a safe assumption. I feel like we

0:38:07.600 --> 0:38:10.120
<v Speaker 1>quit saying that at a certain point, maybe like halfway

0:38:10.120 --> 0:38:11.840
<v Speaker 1>through season two, like oh, you could do this or

0:38:11.880 --> 0:38:14.320
<v Speaker 1>you could die. Yeah, it just kind of you couldn't

0:38:14.360 --> 0:38:17.120
<v Speaker 1>do this, and we just like to yourself or just

0:38:17.160 --> 0:38:19.279
<v Speaker 1>like or I could die. Yeah, I get it, we do.

0:38:20.160 --> 0:38:25.520
<v Speaker 1>Just that's always the option. Now we understand success or death. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:38:25.640 --> 0:38:47.520
<v Speaker 1>I get it. I get it. And we're back in

0:38:47.560 --> 0:38:49.560
<v Speaker 1>the boat. We're back on the boat. You and I

0:38:49.640 --> 0:38:51.399
<v Speaker 1>back on the boat. This is like the first time.

0:38:52.120 --> 0:38:54.320
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, that's not true. As I said, is the

0:38:54.360 --> 0:38:56.480
<v Speaker 1>first time we interacted this season. That's just not true

0:38:56.480 --> 0:38:59.560
<v Speaker 1>at all, not even a little bit. Although we might

0:38:59.640 --> 0:39:02.920
<v Speaker 1>have shot this, I have a feeling we combined some

0:39:02.960 --> 0:39:04.720
<v Speaker 1>of the episode one and two stuff on the boat,

0:39:04.760 --> 0:39:06.600
<v Speaker 1>and I think this might have been the first scene

0:39:06.600 --> 0:39:09.279
<v Speaker 1>we shot for season two, because it was day and

0:39:09.320 --> 0:39:10.879
<v Speaker 1>the other stuff we did was night. So I think

0:39:10.920 --> 0:39:15.240
<v Speaker 1>we started with this. Am I wrong? Very possibly, very possibly.

0:39:15.280 --> 0:39:17.080
<v Speaker 1>I honestly can't remember for the life of me, but

0:39:17.120 --> 0:39:21.880
<v Speaker 1>it's very possible, very very possible. My hair is definitely

0:39:21.920 --> 0:39:25.040
<v Speaker 1>not episode two hair. It's episode one hair because they

0:39:25.640 --> 0:39:28.520
<v Speaker 1>was thinking fix some stuff. This is the whole night, ma'am.

0:39:28.760 --> 0:39:33.759
<v Speaker 1>Who did there? I just remember it was human and mosquitoes,

0:39:33.880 --> 0:39:36.920
<v Speaker 1>It was humid, it was hot, and something else I remember,

0:39:36.960 --> 0:39:39.080
<v Speaker 1>which I learned. This is kind of a silly fact,

0:39:39.160 --> 0:39:41.319
<v Speaker 1>but this shirt that I'm wearing was made of this

0:39:41.520 --> 0:39:44.239
<v Speaker 1>really thin linen and they steamed it. But when they

0:39:44.280 --> 0:39:48.560
<v Speaker 1>steamed it, it grew because the fabric stretched, and so

0:39:48.640 --> 0:39:52.799
<v Speaker 1>they had are amazing wardrobe team. Julianne. Actually, we love you,

0:39:52.800 --> 0:39:56.400
<v Speaker 1>we miss you. Julianne. Hope you're having fun on the Boys. Boys,

0:39:56.520 --> 0:39:59.840
<v Speaker 1>He's on the Boys. I know. I'm so jealous. I

0:40:00.080 --> 0:40:02.760
<v Speaker 1>jealous of all of them. I keep telling my buddies

0:40:02.800 --> 0:40:04.680
<v Speaker 1>on that show. I'm like, you take care of Julianne

0:40:04.680 --> 0:40:08.200
<v Speaker 1>because she is amazing. Yeah, we love her. But she

0:40:08.239 --> 0:40:10.759
<v Speaker 1>did a last minute alteration on set on the day

0:40:10.880 --> 0:40:14.080
<v Speaker 1>to make the shirt fit again, because amazing, because she's

0:40:14.120 --> 0:40:18.160
<v Speaker 1>a badass like that she is. She is indeed another

0:40:18.920 --> 0:40:23.080
<v Speaker 1>life or death offer for Clary, though this time Jason

0:40:23.200 --> 0:40:25.960
<v Speaker 1>is like, I don't really understand, and I sort of

0:40:26.000 --> 0:40:31.720
<v Speaker 1>remember this, like the motivation here is just like brotherly

0:40:32.120 --> 0:40:35.359
<v Speaker 1>like brotherly protection. But I feel like, honestly, the best

0:40:35.360 --> 0:40:38.680
<v Speaker 1>solution would have been, like she's not going. I'm also

0:40:38.800 --> 0:40:42.040
<v Speaker 1>not going. Yeah that's your answer, go on your mission.

0:40:42.080 --> 0:40:43.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't care. But neither of us are going on

0:40:44.000 --> 0:40:46.480
<v Speaker 1>this thing. That's not how it happened, because that's not

0:40:46.520 --> 0:40:49.960
<v Speaker 1>good storytelling. Good storytelling is what happened. And Jace goes

0:40:50.000 --> 0:40:52.440
<v Speaker 1>on the mission. Oh, we've got Simon and the snake again.

0:40:53.360 --> 0:40:57.319
<v Speaker 1>So good. He's really trying this Encanter thing. You know,

0:40:58.080 --> 0:41:00.520
<v Speaker 1>it's a fire reading snake. It is, indeed, of fire

0:41:00.560 --> 0:41:05.040
<v Speaker 1>breathing snake, which is cool. Like again, Alberto is so good.

0:41:05.200 --> 0:41:08.000
<v Speaker 1>All of this is reacting to nothing, like nothing was there.

0:41:08.239 --> 0:41:10.919
<v Speaker 1>There was nothing there, there was there. Probably wasn't even

0:41:11.000 --> 0:41:13.120
<v Speaker 1>like a ball or an eyeline marker for this one

0:41:13.120 --> 0:41:15.560
<v Speaker 1>because it was just him. So you didn't need one

0:41:15.719 --> 0:41:17.719
<v Speaker 1>the eyeline markers if when there's lots of us and

0:41:17.760 --> 0:41:19.440
<v Speaker 1>we all need to be looking at the same thing.

0:41:19.960 --> 0:41:22.120
<v Speaker 1>Here it was just him, So he's just doing this

0:41:22.200 --> 0:41:24.799
<v Speaker 1>is all just imagination. He's doing such a good job,

0:41:25.480 --> 0:41:27.440
<v Speaker 1>I think. I also think it's funny that Magnus now

0:41:27.480 --> 0:41:30.080
<v Speaker 1>has like a burlap sacker, is just slowly filling in

0:41:30.200 --> 0:41:33.640
<v Speaker 1>his stuff bit by bit, which is and Simon's about

0:41:33.640 --> 0:41:35.759
<v Speaker 1>to die, yeah, and he's just like, do to do?

0:41:35.840 --> 0:41:39.479
<v Speaker 1>Oh the dagger? O this? Oh? Actually this is This

0:41:39.640 --> 0:41:44.120
<v Speaker 1>is a very very important scene. The dagger, very important.

0:41:44.280 --> 0:41:46.080
<v Speaker 1>When do we find out about the dagger? I think

0:41:46.120 --> 0:41:48.520
<v Speaker 1>it later this season in the beginning. I don't think

0:41:48.520 --> 0:41:51.960
<v Speaker 1>it's this. Oh, I think it's in this season. It

0:41:52.040 --> 0:41:57.360
<v Speaker 1>makes I think so, yeah, pretty sure. But anyway to

0:41:57.440 --> 0:42:01.200
<v Speaker 1>be discussing, do not forget this dagger, Do not forget

0:42:01.200 --> 0:42:04.120
<v Speaker 1>this dagger. It reminds me there's okay, there's help. See

0:42:04.120 --> 0:42:06.160
<v Speaker 1>if you can help me. Remember, because you know Disney

0:42:06.160 --> 0:42:09.880
<v Speaker 1>movies arguably better than I do. There's a dagger in

0:42:10.040 --> 0:42:14.279
<v Speaker 1>one of the Disney movies. What it was at the

0:42:14.280 --> 0:42:18.880
<v Speaker 1>beginning of A Laddin Jaffar. No, it's the old Man, true.

0:42:19.000 --> 0:42:21.680
<v Speaker 1>It's when he's the old man and he takes the

0:42:21.760 --> 0:42:25.200
<v Speaker 1>lamp and takes the dagger out and goes to stab

0:42:25.200 --> 0:42:27.600
<v Speaker 1>a Laddin, and I think the carpet saves him. I'm

0:42:27.600 --> 0:42:30.200
<v Speaker 1>pretty sure I think carpet saves him. But that's the dagger.

0:42:30.239 --> 0:42:33.480
<v Speaker 1>It looks like almost knew. I knew you'd know. Yeah,

0:42:33.520 --> 0:42:35.759
<v Speaker 1>I know my Disney nice little, nice little Disney Wink,

0:42:35.920 --> 0:42:38.759
<v Speaker 1>Disney to Disney Wink, Little Disney to Disney Wink. And

0:42:38.800 --> 0:42:42.800
<v Speaker 1>then we get Incanto working, good job, good job, silent

0:42:45.000 --> 0:42:48.200
<v Speaker 1>or the snake was just like, you're an idiot, and

0:42:48.239 --> 0:42:52.319
<v Speaker 1>then it's difficult to read that snake reaction. We'd have

0:42:52.360 --> 0:42:54.879
<v Speaker 1>to ask police what reaction he was trying to get

0:42:54.880 --> 0:42:58.000
<v Speaker 1>off the snake. Yeah, so we'll see. It could be like, oh,

0:42:58.160 --> 0:43:01.200
<v Speaker 1>we're new, Okay, I'm gonna I'm going to give you all.

0:43:02.239 --> 0:43:06.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna I'm kind of done with this cute and

0:43:06.239 --> 0:43:10.040
<v Speaker 1>then it just turns out to be a buddy. Sweet buddy,

0:43:10.360 --> 0:43:12.919
<v Speaker 1>any buddy, let me see Alex room for the first time.

0:43:12.920 --> 0:43:16.360
<v Speaker 1>We've not seen Alex room yet. Yeah. I don't remember

0:43:16.400 --> 0:43:21.320
<v Speaker 1>where this set was. It was the utility bedroom or office.

0:43:21.400 --> 0:43:23.840
<v Speaker 1>I forget if it was the office or Clary's bedroom,

0:43:23.880 --> 0:43:27.160
<v Speaker 1>but they readdressed one of the the rooms in that hallway.

0:43:27.200 --> 0:43:29.080
<v Speaker 1>We had a We had sort of this set of

0:43:29.160 --> 0:43:31.920
<v Speaker 1>two or three hallways with I think two or three

0:43:32.000 --> 0:43:34.240
<v Speaker 1>rooms off of them on the on the other side

0:43:34.239 --> 0:43:37.839
<v Speaker 1>of the off center, and they would just redress these

0:43:37.920 --> 0:43:41.360
<v Speaker 1>rooms to be whatever we needed. Whatever we needed, whether

0:43:42.320 --> 0:43:45.799
<v Speaker 1>inquisitors office, amazing job, or the head of the institute

0:43:46.200 --> 0:43:50.600
<v Speaker 1>or a bedroom or did it become anything else? I

0:43:50.600 --> 0:43:53.719
<v Speaker 1>don't think so. But later on we started building more

0:43:53.800 --> 0:43:55.840
<v Speaker 1>sets for things that we're going to be used more regularly,

0:43:56.160 --> 0:44:00.000
<v Speaker 1>it does become although maybe that is in the office

0:44:00.120 --> 0:44:06.040
<v Speaker 1>is another moment right at the end, Remember sticky couch.

0:44:07.400 --> 0:44:09.359
<v Speaker 1>That sounded gross. That's not what I meant at all.

0:44:09.480 --> 0:44:13.759
<v Speaker 1>Would just have to circle back to why I said that.

0:44:14.239 --> 0:44:17.839
<v Speaker 1>It's absolutely pg That's not what I meant at all.

0:44:19.520 --> 0:44:21.880
<v Speaker 1>Will come back to that when the episode is on,

0:44:23.000 --> 0:44:27.840
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, was the reality unfortunately anyway, anyway, Clari is

0:44:27.880 --> 0:44:31.160
<v Speaker 1>in a cage. Claire is in a cage, in a cage,

0:44:31.520 --> 0:44:33.560
<v Speaker 1>and Dot comes up and it's kind of evil Dot.

0:44:34.719 --> 0:44:37.879
<v Speaker 1>It's kind of evil Dot. But she's is she under

0:44:37.960 --> 0:44:40.960
<v Speaker 1>She's under a like the injections made her compliant. Is

0:44:40.960 --> 0:44:45.600
<v Speaker 1>that what it was? Yeah, it's Valentine has basically done

0:44:45.600 --> 0:44:48.239
<v Speaker 1>what he does best and you know, just shot people

0:44:48.320 --> 0:44:53.839
<v Speaker 1>up with things until they are under his control. But

0:44:53.880 --> 0:44:56.319
<v Speaker 1>it is it is fear based, which is interesting because

0:44:56.360 --> 0:44:59.120
<v Speaker 1>it's not just I will do your will. It's if

0:44:59.160 --> 0:45:02.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't do this, he'll be angry. It literally says that, yeah,

0:45:02.080 --> 0:45:04.680
<v Speaker 1>you're absolutely right. Maybe it is just a version of

0:45:04.719 --> 0:45:07.920
<v Speaker 1>torture that's made them compliant. That maybe the injections themselves

0:45:07.920 --> 0:45:11.560
<v Speaker 1>are whatever that what's the truth? Seron driver. What it's called?

0:45:12.320 --> 0:45:18.520
<v Speaker 1>Technical name for it hid something something hydrochlorid? I think, yeah, sodium,

0:45:18.600 --> 0:45:22.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. We don't think it's sodium. But hey,

0:45:22.560 --> 0:45:26.040
<v Speaker 1>maybe it's like that. Perhaps Dot is sorry, listen to

0:45:27.160 --> 0:45:30.200
<v Speaker 1>that's a heartbreaking line. Why did you stop looking for me?

0:45:31.200 --> 0:45:35.279
<v Speaker 1>Right brutal? And the answer is because lady, you got

0:45:35.320 --> 0:45:37.080
<v Speaker 1>thrown out of a second story window and you hit

0:45:37.120 --> 0:45:40.239
<v Speaker 1>the rateling and we thought you did, Like for sure,

0:45:40.239 --> 0:45:41.920
<v Speaker 1>I thought you were dead. We weren't looking for you.

0:45:42.120 --> 0:45:44.080
<v Speaker 1>We didn't start looking for you. We were just like, oh,

0:45:44.120 --> 0:45:48.200
<v Speaker 1>you're dead. Yeah. And not only that, but Magnus told

0:45:48.280 --> 0:45:52.000
<v Speaker 1>us I don't feel her magic anymore, correct, which is

0:45:52.040 --> 0:45:55.680
<v Speaker 1>I think the only reason that we did stop, because

0:45:55.760 --> 0:45:58.600
<v Speaker 1>we all thought, even Magnus thought she was dead. Yeah.

0:45:58.960 --> 0:46:02.759
<v Speaker 1>It must be the whole over water tracking situation. Well

0:46:02.760 --> 0:46:07.600
<v Speaker 1>she was in Chernobyl. Oh maybe the radiation. Valentine's got

0:46:07.640 --> 0:46:10.600
<v Speaker 1>some wards going on that kind of supersede a lot

0:46:10.600 --> 0:46:14.440
<v Speaker 1>of things. Whatever it was, we couldn't find a Magnus.

0:46:15.960 --> 0:46:22.719
<v Speaker 1>Sorry again. Now we're back with shirtless Magario. Oh so exciting, pensive,

0:46:22.880 --> 0:46:25.879
<v Speaker 1>pensive Matt Dadario is more important here, I think than

0:46:25.920 --> 0:46:27.960
<v Speaker 1>him being shirtless. He looks fantastic in his shirt, but

0:46:28.120 --> 0:46:30.960
<v Speaker 1>he's doing in this face the emotions that he's feeling.

0:46:31.360 --> 0:46:34.799
<v Speaker 1>That's the really important thing here. Ah, these flashes through

0:46:37.040 --> 0:46:39.439
<v Speaker 1>we didn't This is the first time we see the babies. Right,

0:46:40.320 --> 0:46:43.200
<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, you're right, it is, I think, because

0:46:43.239 --> 0:46:47.040
<v Speaker 1>they come in episode three. This is stuff from episode three.

0:46:47.440 --> 0:46:50.080
<v Speaker 1>This is the first time we see baby Jason, baby

0:46:50.239 --> 0:46:55.560
<v Speaker 1>baby Alec and teenage Jason, teenage Aleck. Oh yeah yeah yeah.

0:46:55.600 --> 0:46:58.000
<v Speaker 1>And and a flash for those who are really paying

0:46:58.000 --> 0:47:01.480
<v Speaker 1>close attention, flash the season one of Memory Demon episode

0:47:02.200 --> 0:47:10.560
<v Speaker 1>and very good punch punch Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, Absolutely, Magnus,

0:47:10.960 --> 0:47:12.640
<v Speaker 1>we're back with Magnus, when we're back with the Dagger,

0:47:12.960 --> 0:47:15.799
<v Speaker 1>just tell us, man, tell us what's going on? Let

0:47:15.920 --> 0:47:19.319
<v Speaker 1>us in. I have to. I just have to point out.

0:47:19.719 --> 0:47:24.760
<v Speaker 1>Listen Antiques Road Show. You really really made my heart happy.

0:47:25.280 --> 0:47:31.480
<v Speaker 1>Come on, buddy Funny. Oh man, did I Maybe I'm

0:47:31.560 --> 0:47:33.319
<v Speaker 1>just a grandma, but I used to watch that show

0:47:33.440 --> 0:47:38.040
<v Speaker 1>all the time. I watch it. Oh wait, is he

0:47:38.160 --> 0:47:41.520
<v Speaker 1>explaining the dagger right now? No, he's just saying it,

0:47:41.600 --> 0:47:43.640
<v Speaker 1>don't touch it. It's important because I was like, I'll

0:47:43.719 --> 0:47:48.160
<v Speaker 1>just use this, I'll be resourceful. Oh he's explaining why

0:47:48.680 --> 0:47:54.360
<v Speaker 1>he is the godfather the bird, the godfather the Bird's

0:47:54.440 --> 0:47:57.800
<v Speaker 1>wing under which many other down world has learned to

0:47:57.880 --> 0:48:01.719
<v Speaker 1>become down worlders. I know, just of Magnus sitting behind

0:48:01.760 --> 0:48:05.560
<v Speaker 1>a desk like Marlon Brando, just being the godfather to

0:48:05.920 --> 0:48:11.560
<v Speaker 1>would I would? It works? So I'm excited about this scene.

0:48:11.719 --> 0:48:13.360
<v Speaker 1>You and I know how it ends, but this was

0:48:13.680 --> 0:48:18.120
<v Speaker 1>this was like our first proper Darren McGuire fight, or

0:48:18.120 --> 0:48:20.600
<v Speaker 1>at least my first proper Darren McGuire fight scene, because

0:48:20.640 --> 0:48:25.120
<v Speaker 1>we are I remember this day the day before, two

0:48:25.200 --> 0:48:28.520
<v Speaker 1>days before, we were on this same set and there's

0:48:28.520 --> 0:48:31.120
<v Speaker 1>a fight scene that's about to happen underneath this rigging,

0:48:31.480 --> 0:48:34.200
<v Speaker 1>and it's all quite sharp and it's all quite dangerous,

0:48:34.560 --> 0:48:38.440
<v Speaker 1>and we had to be obviously like the level of

0:48:38.520 --> 0:48:41.080
<v Speaker 1>the fight had to be physically lower. And I remember

0:48:41.080 --> 0:48:42.880
<v Speaker 1>looking over and I was sat in my chair and

0:48:43.440 --> 0:48:47.279
<v Speaker 1>Darren is over there doing it, just trying to plot

0:48:47.360 --> 0:48:49.120
<v Speaker 1>things out with his legs bent, and he was doing

0:48:49.160 --> 0:48:50.719
<v Speaker 1>it for about twenty minutes, and I came over and

0:48:50.760 --> 0:48:53.040
<v Speaker 1>I was like, let's work this through whatever. And this

0:48:53.200 --> 0:48:56.680
<v Speaker 1>is really special to me because this was this was

0:48:56.800 --> 0:48:58.920
<v Speaker 1>like the first time the real discussion was had of

0:48:59.080 --> 0:49:01.520
<v Speaker 1>like how would Jay's reactingly, like how would these sort

0:49:01.520 --> 0:49:03.880
<v Speaker 1>of things happen? And there's a moment that we both discussed.

0:49:04.520 --> 0:49:06.880
<v Speaker 1>I think it was Darren's idea, actually, he said, I

0:49:06.960 --> 0:49:09.800
<v Speaker 1>want Jason to be so good and so quick that

0:49:10.440 --> 0:49:12.960
<v Speaker 1>he is he is entirely aware of everything that's going

0:49:13.000 --> 0:49:14.760
<v Speaker 1>on around him at any time. So when a sword

0:49:14.840 --> 0:49:16.480
<v Speaker 1>is swung, I think at the back of my neck

0:49:16.640 --> 0:49:19.800
<v Speaker 1>or the back or just my back. The block happens

0:49:19.880 --> 0:49:22.279
<v Speaker 1>without thinking. I knew that that's what that was going

0:49:22.320 --> 0:49:24.200
<v Speaker 1>to happen. And then we're onto the next thing. And

0:49:24.280 --> 0:49:25.759
<v Speaker 1>that was Darren's idea, and I thought that was the

0:49:25.840 --> 0:49:28.319
<v Speaker 1>coolest thing. I also don't know if that is this scene.

0:49:28.360 --> 0:49:29.840
<v Speaker 1>I just saw the rigging and I was like, I

0:49:29.960 --> 0:49:31.960
<v Speaker 1>like you no, but you're You're right to your point.

0:49:32.080 --> 0:49:35.080
<v Speaker 1>Darren is so good at every single detail of of

0:49:35.640 --> 0:49:39.120
<v Speaker 1>not only making it look cool, but putting character behind

0:49:39.200 --> 0:49:41.600
<v Speaker 1>it and making it means something. And I think that's

0:49:41.640 --> 0:49:44.239
<v Speaker 1>why people responded so well to the fights in the show,

0:49:44.880 --> 0:49:47.280
<v Speaker 1>is that if everything had a reason and a purpose

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<v Speaker 1>and and motivation, and that's all Darren. That is all

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<v Speaker 1>Darren Boks, Darren Monsieur. This guess. This actress was so

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<v Speaker 1>good and so lovely to work with. She played Heidi.

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<v Speaker 1>But a wolf is not grattle. No, it's grattle. I

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<v Speaker 1>think in the books it's Heidi, which we use Heidi

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<v Speaker 1>as a different name later correct Her name is Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>her name is Joe Anne. And I knew that Jensen

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<v Speaker 1>Joe And if you're listening. You did an incredible job,

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<v Speaker 1>and thank you very much for being such a team player,

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<v Speaker 1>because these were tough days. You were so lovely chained

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<v Speaker 1>up the whole time, Slash dead in the water. Because

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<v Speaker 1>this was before we had toward the end of season

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<v Speaker 1>two they were able to make magnetic cuffs so that

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<v Speaker 1>if anyone was bound, they could be unbound on their own.

0:50:33.800 --> 0:50:37.080
<v Speaker 1>This was pre that, so people were pretty much actually shackled.

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<v Speaker 1>Um they were plastic shackles, but they were still actually shackled.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's not a fun thing on set. Yeah, no

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<v Speaker 1>it's not, and it's uncomfortable and there's really nothing you

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<v Speaker 1>can do about it. It's it's rough. Shackles are rough,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's it's kind of claustrophobic being shackled that way too.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it doesn't feel good. No, no, it's not fun.

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<v Speaker 1>No it isn't. But here comes we get to see

0:51:01.440 --> 0:51:04.680
<v Speaker 1>the glowy swords again, which I love. We do, we do,

0:51:04.840 --> 0:51:07.759
<v Speaker 1>we do see Clarion Dart walk it up this and

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<v Speaker 1>then we end up with this nosebleed during the tracking moment,

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<v Speaker 1>which is obviously ruined because we end up in the

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<v Speaker 1>water again. I forgot the nosebleed. Yeah, So for those

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<v Speaker 1>who don't know how nosebleeds are done, it's kind of grim.

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<v Speaker 1>They get a little sort of circular sponge about this big,

0:51:22.280 --> 0:51:25.640
<v Speaker 1>but it's very porous, very very poorous sponge, and they

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<v Speaker 1>dip it or soak it in fake blood and then

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<v Speaker 1>put that up your nose as far as they can obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>so it doesn't go into your sinuses, but just up

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<v Speaker 1>into sort of the column of your nose. And then

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<v Speaker 1>you have to not breathe out of your nose until

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<v Speaker 1>they're ready to go. You end up sort of sounding

0:51:40.800 --> 0:51:44.080
<v Speaker 1>a bit like a beetle. The musicians got the edibles,

0:51:45.760 --> 0:51:47.520
<v Speaker 1>and then were you're ready to do it, they will

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<v Speaker 1>say action and you let the air come out of

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<v Speaker 1>your nose and it will force the blood out, but

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<v Speaker 1>not the sponge. And that's how these nose bleeds are done.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go a little insider information. You did it

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<v Speaker 1>very well. You know they're going to have a lot

0:52:00.360 --> 0:52:03.480
<v Speaker 1>of dialogue in this moment. Otherwise, Yeah, there's a just

0:52:03.800 --> 0:52:05.520
<v Speaker 1>it's all a dr there's nothing you can do. You

0:52:05.560 --> 0:52:09.560
<v Speaker 1>can't speak and do it. However, there literally is in

0:52:09.680 --> 0:52:13.080
<v Speaker 1>the background of this shop, Vanessa is there she's about

0:52:13.080 --> 0:52:15.600
<v Speaker 1>to do the portal thing. It's after the fight, noses

0:52:15.600 --> 0:52:17.279
<v Speaker 1>a bleeding. We don't know what's going on. She's about

0:52:17.280 --> 0:52:19.480
<v Speaker 1>to open up the wards and there literally is a

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<v Speaker 1>lightning strike behind her. Way what that was this day?

0:52:23.760 --> 0:52:27.040
<v Speaker 1>That was this day. We were on the boat and

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<v Speaker 1>we watched this thunderstorm just come towards us, slowly, slowly, slowly.

0:52:31.880 --> 0:52:34.560
<v Speaker 1>It was this day, and there literally is a lightning

0:52:34.600 --> 0:52:37.320
<v Speaker 1>strike still in the show that happens behind her. That crazy,

0:52:37.640 --> 0:52:40.480
<v Speaker 1>That is crazy. So because we've been we've teased this

0:52:40.600 --> 0:52:43.560
<v Speaker 1>so much, so this day was very humid, there was

0:52:43.600 --> 0:52:45.920
<v Speaker 1>a storm coming and we were on this boat. This

0:52:46.040 --> 0:52:48.160
<v Speaker 1>is actual boat in the actual water. We've talked about

0:52:48.160 --> 0:52:50.600
<v Speaker 1>it many times. But because the lake is so large,

0:52:51.000 --> 0:52:54.640
<v Speaker 1>we could watch the thunderstorm as it got closer and

0:52:54.760 --> 0:52:56.680
<v Speaker 1>closer and closer. And I remember sitting down the boat

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<v Speaker 1>with you, going, how does this work? Conductor? Copper Conductor.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the assumption would be that boats get hit

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<v Speaker 1>by lightning, and it doesn't just kill everyone on board,

0:53:10.120 --> 0:53:13.480
<v Speaker 1>like there must be some it's gonna be ground fixes

0:53:13.520 --> 0:53:16.120
<v Speaker 1>it like it must be. But I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know enough to say how I don't know if

0:53:18.760 --> 0:53:21.000
<v Speaker 1>anyone knew on that set, because I think they didn't.

0:53:21.120 --> 0:53:24.120
<v Speaker 1>We didn't quite think about that. No, we rushed through

0:53:24.200 --> 0:53:26.920
<v Speaker 1>this and we got we got. We high tailed it

0:53:27.040 --> 0:53:29.359
<v Speaker 1>as quickly as we could. This has ended. I wanted

0:53:29.360 --> 0:53:31.960
<v Speaker 1>to do this stunt so badly, but they just wouldn't

0:53:32.040 --> 0:53:34.120
<v Speaker 1>let us do it. It's high. It was like thirty

0:53:34.160 --> 0:53:36.439
<v Speaker 1>five off the side of the boat, and I really

0:53:36.480 --> 0:53:39.200
<v Speaker 1>wanted to do it. I would have done it with you.

0:53:39.520 --> 0:53:42.400
<v Speaker 1>The issue was, actually, interestingly, the issue was with this

0:53:42.520 --> 0:53:46.160
<v Speaker 1>stunt wasn't necessarily the impact of the water, although you

0:53:46.200 --> 0:53:48.880
<v Speaker 1>do need to hit it correctly at thirty otherwise you

0:53:48.920 --> 0:53:51.759
<v Speaker 1>will get hurt. It's because it was so dark you

0:53:51.840 --> 0:53:54.440
<v Speaker 1>couldn't see where the surface of the water was, so

0:53:54.520 --> 0:53:58.120
<v Speaker 1>you couldn't prep your hitting the water correctly. So Aaron

0:53:58.200 --> 0:54:04.319
<v Speaker 1>did it, and Aaron does an amazing up and great job.

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<v Speaker 1>They absolutely killed it. Amazing stuff and do that in

0:54:07.680 --> 0:54:10.239
<v Speaker 1>and I don't know. Aaron didn't have a wig, did he? He?

0:54:10.880 --> 0:54:13.359
<v Speaker 1>Aaron did not have a wig. But now ye've had

0:54:13.360 --> 0:54:15.440
<v Speaker 1>a wig and the boots and everything else, and it

0:54:15.640 --> 0:54:19.440
<v Speaker 1>was oh and then and then Valentine kills her anyway,

0:54:20.000 --> 0:54:23.719
<v Speaker 1>m oh he does. That's right, because she ends up

0:54:23.840 --> 0:54:30.480
<v Speaker 1>now catching up and that's a guy that is in

0:54:30.560 --> 0:54:35.800
<v Speaker 1>fact our episode. Wow, Wow, more to come. I'm very excited.

0:54:36.200 --> 0:54:39.319
<v Speaker 1>So I think I've mentioned this before a few times,

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<v Speaker 1>but episode three, season two was my favorite, absolutely my

0:54:44.360 --> 0:54:48.560
<v Speaker 1>favorite through the journey that Jays goes through and the

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<v Speaker 1>ending and the it's absolutely my favorite episode maybe that

0:54:53.760 --> 0:54:57.320
<v Speaker 1>we ever did, definitely of this season. So I'm excited

0:54:57.360 --> 0:54:59.480
<v Speaker 1>to start talking about that. But in the meantime, thank

0:54:59.520 --> 0:55:01.439
<v Speaker 1>you so much listening. I hope you had a little

0:55:01.520 --> 0:55:03.879
<v Speaker 1>journey with us. We learned a little bit about nose

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<v Speaker 1>bleeds and how you do some behind the scenes stuff

0:55:06.440 --> 0:55:10.920
<v Speaker 1>which was fun, and boats and boats and what did

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<v Speaker 1>I say that was useless? Something blowfish? Blowfish. That's right,

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<v Speaker 1>we learned a little bit about blowfish. Unless I'm wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>If they're any blowfish experts listening, just either tell me

0:55:20.600 --> 0:55:22.600
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