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Speaker 2: Happy Wednesday, everyone, Welcome to Cowboys Cross Talk. We are

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Speaker 2: live from the Cowboys Club at the Star and Frisco.

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Speaker 2: I'm Bobby Belt, Yes the fan, Yes, owning it.

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Speaker 3: Nate.

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Speaker 2: I'm joined tonight by Will Chambers from one five through

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Speaker 2: the fan.

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Speaker 3: We'll see for how long.

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Speaker 2: As always, We've got the three time Super Bowl champion

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Speaker 2: and six time Pro Bowler Nate Newton here with us

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Speaker 2: and our special guest tonight is a ten year NFL veteran,

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Speaker 2: one of the most lovable players in NFL history.

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Speaker 3: One of my favorite neighbors.

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Speaker 4: This says, this is your neighbor. You guys are bonding

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Speaker 4: over that a little.

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Speaker 3: Two years ago.

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Speaker 5: Uh huh. Love.

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Speaker 6: It gave me to ten years to does my does

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Speaker 6: mine have any Super Bowls underneath it?

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Speaker 5: Bullet points?

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Speaker 2: I might have to look no whole one. Well though,

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Speaker 2: I forgot Nate told this a couple weeks ago. That's

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Speaker 2: a different day. Rate bring the super Bowl ring up.

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Speaker 5: Me and Chambers May we used to walk right across

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Speaker 5: the street.

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Speaker 3: Just right here.

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Speaker 5: This is street, dude, So you're you.

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Speaker 2: You've stayed in Frisco pretty much the entire time after

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Speaker 2: YOURNFL career ended.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, pretty much. Uh huh.

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Speaker 6: And once they built these apartments right here, I was like, man, yeah,

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Speaker 6: I'm getting a little spot right here right. Me and

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Speaker 6: Cole Hicky teeny Yeah stayed there.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 6: We used to ride our little scooters race over here

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Speaker 6: so who could get to work first.

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Speaker 5: Man, it was a great time.

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Speaker 2: So it was it was Tie and de La riding

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Speaker 2: the bicycles and y'all were doing the motorized scooter.

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Speaker 5: We're doing the motorized taking over here.

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Speaker 4: That's good now. I was I was looking.

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Speaker 2: I was looking at some stuff and I had seen

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Speaker 2: I was very surprised I had no idea that after

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Speaker 2: your NFL career you ended up becoming a high school

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Speaker 2: teacher and uh, you were teaching history, which this now

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Speaker 2: means we have two history buffs. I guess that have

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Speaker 2: come through over the last second, because you and Rod

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Speaker 2: Maryor and Ellie that are just obsessed with history. Rod

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Speaker 2: mayor Ellie can can just drop you every fact about

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Speaker 2: every war in the history of the globe. But talk

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Speaker 6: And yeah, man, so when I got done, I really

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Speaker 5: Come on, get out of it here. You gotta go

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Speaker 6: But you know, I pursued that coaching and out here

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Speaker 6: in Texas you cannot be a coach unless you're a teacher.

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Speaker 6: Quickly realized that Texas high school football.

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Speaker 5: You know, it's like Friday night lights. It's a religion.

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Speaker 6: I'm sitting there doing interviews with coaches and they're like, yeah,

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Speaker 6: It's intense. But you know, that whole year I was

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Speaker 6: Man loved coaching, loved being around the guys. But the

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Speaker 6: I was like, yeah, man, you know I just played

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Speaker 6: or you want to perform, I mean, it's the ultimate performance.

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Speaker 5: And and your crowd is subjected to you.

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Speaker 6: They can't go anywhere, they can't do anything, you know,

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Speaker 4: You know, that's a good talent there.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe just because I'm big and one who knows.

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Speaker 6: I would want to imagine that the kids enjoy me,

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Speaker 6: you know, hey, every now and then, you know, I'll.

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Speaker 5: Go, I'll go, mister OLIMPI on them. Hey, you gotta

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Speaker 5: bring that thing right here?

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Speaker 7: Can there be any doubt that he's not the most

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Speaker 4: He's gotta be right.

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Speaker 5: I mean, let's put it to a vote right now.

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Speaker 4: I mean I would.

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Speaker 2: I would easily vote for Twitter and make sure we

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Speaker 2: tag all yeah, there we go. You can let us

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Speaker 2: know on Twitter if if Joe Looney is your favorite

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Speaker 2: Frisco High School teacher.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, there it is, vote for vote for Loony exactly.

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Speaker 4: I think it's perfect. Now.

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Speaker 2: You you mentioned you were kind of surprised by that

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Speaker 2: For coaching, it's like, oh, this is the tag along.

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Speaker 2: Jeff Olbrick, the the interim coach right now for the Jets,

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Speaker 2: had a really cool story last week where they're asking

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Speaker 2: him about when he realized he wanted to coach, and

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Speaker 2: he said, Patrick Willis was drafted in San Francisco to

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Speaker 2: I'm Patrick Willis's cheerleader and mentor, and that's kind of

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, did you experience anything like that when you

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Speaker 6: Mm hmm yeah. So hats off to you know, what

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Speaker 6: was this? What's such a yeah, jeff Olbrick. I mean,

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Speaker 6: that's something that's hard to do, is teach your you know,

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Speaker 6: it's a really amazing story.

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Speaker 5: But with with school man.

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Speaker 6: I fell in love with just being around the teenagers, man,

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Speaker 6: sum it up, man, Coach Garrett used to come in,

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Speaker 6: you know, to our team meetings and he used to

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Speaker 6: I'm just like, why is this dude so happy? Right,

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Speaker 6: I'm about going here, We're about to do inside drill

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Speaker 6: meeting rooms and he always used to say, man, this

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Speaker 6: doesn't feel like a job to me. It doesn't feel

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Speaker 5: But I really understand. You know what are you saying now?

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Speaker 6: You know, when you wake up and you have this enthusiasm,

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Speaker 6: because I mean, if you're going to going to a

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Speaker 5: Like, man, I used to have that mindset.

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Speaker 6: Oh my god, oh my gosh, please teach me, yes, please,

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Speaker 8: But we were all that way, yeah right, except me.

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Speaker 5: I spent more time. And then you know that was

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Speaker 3: In there when you have to go down there.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, you're being a class grown yeah, oh man.

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Speaker 6: You know it was funny. I was just talking to

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Speaker 6: one of my teachers' name is mister Walker. He played

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Speaker 6: some baseball and we were talking today, how if you

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Oh man, how how long am I going to have

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Speaker 2: You know, it's it's interesting you're talking about you got

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Speaker 2: around Texas high school football a little bit and you said, oh,

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Speaker 2: been taken over and for a state like Texas, high

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Speaker 2: school sports is it's big business. Oh yes, And you

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Speaker 2: find that the pressure that these kids are under and

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Speaker 2: are it's a lot for a teenager deal. When you

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Speaker 2: just being in the classroom setting and probably being around

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Speaker 2: athletes in the classroom and stuff like that, how much

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Speaker 2: did that strike you that aspect of it of like, wow,

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Speaker 2: this high school game here right now is so different

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think so.

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Speaker 6: The first thing that jumps off to me is you

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Speaker 6: got to teach the game differently, or just teach the

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Speaker 6: mindset differently, because you got to instill into these kids.

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Speaker 5: Like, hey, we're we're performing now.

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Speaker 6: There's a performance based you know, expectation that we have

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Speaker 6: to have if you're if you're gonna be getting these

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Speaker 6: you know, high school nil deals.

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Speaker 5: And you tell them like, guys, this is another reason

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Speaker 5: to work. I mean, you can.

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Speaker 6: You really can set yourself up, springboard yourself, you know,

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Speaker 6: I mean, but I tell you what, I got a

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Speaker 6: chance to watch some of the highlights of that Duncanville

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Speaker 7: Every stadium is a nicer venue than at any other

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Speaker 5: They don't get drafted. Yeah, don't even get drafted and

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Speaker 2: We were talking a little bit about the NIL stuff

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Speaker 2: Much entitlement, like like our guys really prepared to be

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Speaker 5: But do you really love it? Do you really love

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Speaker 8: You're gonna find out scouts think they have a hard

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Speaker 7: Well, I was promised one hundred thousand dollars or five

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Speaker 5: His agent dropped the.

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Speaker 8: So all of this year is talking about kids are

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Speaker 6: have this crazy natural talent. But you can tell by

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Speaker 6: how the how the guy carries himself, how does he operate,

443
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,800
Speaker 6: you know, is he thinking like a Michael Jordan? Is

444
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Speaker 6: he thinking like you know, a Tom Brady.

445
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Speaker 5: You can tell. You can tell when.

446
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:39,879
Speaker 6: The guys he has that that just look, this is great,

447
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:43,280
Speaker 6: the money everything that comes along with the NFL. But

448
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 6: I am trying to be great. I want my name

449
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 6: to be remembered in this game. And that's how you

450
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Speaker 6: really can tell the difference.

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Speaker 4: I got two questions.

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Speaker 2: Got relate this real quick for both of you. Who's

453
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Speaker 2: the best example of somebody you you've played with that

454
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:03,240
Speaker 2: was that sicko obsessed, just like this game is everything

455
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,360
Speaker 2: to me that you guys.

456
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Speaker 8: Mike Irving man, I saw him come through a knee

457
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 8: injury that was putting people out of the league.

458
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Speaker 5: I was making them just average.

459
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Speaker 8: I saw Michael go through that mentally and and he

460
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:21,240
Speaker 8: didn't treated his knee right the first time, and they

461
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:24,440
Speaker 8: went back in there and they re broke it and

462
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,119
Speaker 8: rebroke it down and broke all the scar tissue. He

463
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Speaker 8: came back that second time with a vengeance. And then

464
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Speaker 8: it's like Mike did not miss a beat.

465
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Speaker 5: He would be out at one two in the morning

466
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Speaker 5: just running.

467
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Speaker 8: With a big twenty five pound weight thing on, running

468
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Speaker 8: back and running.

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Speaker 5: Yes, you know. And the other guy that I know

470
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Speaker 5: that was like that was Jared Rice.

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Speaker 6: Mm hmm, yeah, I think you know. Mine's a wide receiver.

472
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Speaker 6: To you know, I would have to say Dez Bryant.

473
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Speaker 6: You know a lot of people I think had Dez confused.

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Speaker 5: Man.

475
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Speaker 6: Dez was one of the ultimate competitors. I mean he

476
00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,359
Speaker 6: would want to do a one on one just to

477
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,400
Speaker 6: make you look yeah, because how much you like, Hey,

478
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Speaker 6: I'm gonna give you this.

479
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Speaker 5: You know they call what's the contemporary? They say headtop.

480
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:10,399
Speaker 5: It's most guys, it's not headtop. You got Moss, you

481
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 5: know it's it's head Top.

482
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Speaker 6: But I mean you see him out in practice, man,

483
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Speaker 6: it's just like, yeah, I just want to go beat

484
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Speaker 6: you just because I'm a competitor.

485
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Speaker 5: I want to win.

486
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Speaker 7: Is it overstated or understated the effect one way or

487
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,000
Speaker 7: the other in the locker room? If you know a

488
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Speaker 7: guy on the team that is just with that God

489
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Speaker 7: given and isn't totally invested because it gets talked about

490
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Speaker 7: a lot like I don't know, is it a the

491
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Speaker 7: word cancer in the locker room type of thing happened?

492
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Speaker 7: And on the other side, the ones that grab you

493
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Speaker 7: and pull you forward, are they any of those over

494
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Speaker 7: or understated?

495
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Speaker 5: The guys that we played with, I was fortunate.

496
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Speaker 8: To have coach Johnson, Tom Landrew and my and then

497
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Speaker 8: we had I can't think of his name, Blessed already

498
00:25:54,080 --> 00:26:01,160
Speaker 8: came to Pittsburgh off of Chang Gaben. Yeah, these guys

499
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Speaker 8: didn't allow it. These guys did not allow it. Uh

500
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Speaker 8: So when you when they figured out that you were

501
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 8: that type of guy, ain't no guarantee your money back.

502
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Speaker 8: Then when you were gone, the money stopped, you know.

503
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Speaker 7: So you a little different in your time, Yeah, man,

504
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Speaker 7: a little different.

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Speaker 6: But you know what when when I was really thankful

506
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Speaker 6: during my career when I got here to the Dallas

507
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 6: Cowboys because the the old line was just, I mean,

508
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,239
Speaker 6: just an entity. I mean, they were so good at

509
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 6: what they did. And when you join that kind of

510
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,680
Speaker 6: that kind of room, it just I mean, you got

511
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 6: you got no choice but to be better, even if

512
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 6: you don't want to. You know, it's like, man, I

513
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:45,680
Speaker 6: see the way these dudes are working, I don't want to.

514
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Speaker 5: Be you know that kink in the chain that lets

515
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Speaker 5: them down.

516
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Speaker 6: You know what they say on Platoon when they break,

517
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:52,200
Speaker 6: When the machine breaks.

518
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:53,920
Speaker 5: Down, we break down.

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Speaker 2: You know, we're not trying to be that. All right,

520
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Speaker 2: We're about to break now, We're about to take a break.

521
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Speaker 2: Before we do, I'm gonna drop a question for both

522
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 2: of you that you can think about while we're over

523
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:11,920
Speaker 2: the break So I'm curious big personalities, colorful characters, both

524
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 2: you guys like you know, jokes or everything like that.

525
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 2: The idea you guys talking about loving football and wanting that.

526
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Speaker 2: I want to hear y'all's perspective on if you ever

527
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:25,200
Speaker 2: had to fight misconceptions with talent evaluators or coaches who

528
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 2: mis understood your personalities and that colorful character as being

529
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 2: somebody who didn't love football, and how you had to

530
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 2: fight that. So we're gonna get those answers from Joe

531
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Speaker 2: Looney and Nate Newton when we come back here on

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Speaker 2: the SWBC Cowboys Cross Talk.

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Speaker 9: Joe Cowboys as don't Cowards.

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Speaker 1: Back to SWBC Mortgages Dallas Cowboys Crosstalk check broadcasting live

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Speaker 2: Cowboys Cross Talk. I'm Bobby Belt from one of five

541
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Speaker 2: through the fam. We've got Will Chambers from one of five,

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00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 2: Troo fan Nate Newton, six time pro bullet, three times

543
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 2: cham I got a list of the accolades every time.

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Speaker 4: It just feels incomplete.

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Speaker 2: And then our special guest tonight, who's dropping all sorts

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Speaker 2: of knowledge on us this evening is.

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Speaker 4: One Joe Looney.

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00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 2: So Joe, I asked both you and Nate befo, we're

549
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 2: heading to break you guys. Both were talking about how

550
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 2: critical like loving football is in order to make it,

551
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 2: especially when the talent margins are so narrow at that level.

552
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 2: But as two guys who were y'all were jokesters and

553
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 2: big time personalities, how much did you guys run into

554
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 2: resistance from coaches or scouts or talent values who said

555
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 2: I don't think he loves football because he has that

556
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 2: big personality, And how you had to show them hey

557
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 2: my work ethics, Like did you have to work harder,

558
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 2: display harder things.

559
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it happened a lot, you know a

560
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 5: lot for me.

561
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 6: And I think one of those things is is that

562
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 6: I've always had this you know, kid like spirit that

563
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 6: I've never I've never wanted to lose because I think

564
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 6: that's when you're having the most fun. But you have

565
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 6: to show your coaches like, hey, coach, I'm a professional

566
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 6: at what I do.

567
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 5: You know, I'm not a spectator.

568
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 6: I understand, Hey there's a time I can joke, and

569
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 6: then there's a time that I shouldn't be joking, you know.

570
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 6: And I think as you get comfortable with coaches, and

571
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 6: it takes time, it takes time. There's always growing pains

572
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 6: in there. But as a coach sees you and learns

573
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 6: about your ways, how you operate, then they come to

574
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,479
Speaker 6: know like, hey, Looney's just you know, a darn jokester over.

575
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 5: It's just something I gotta deal with from you know.

576
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 5: But when that.

577
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 6: Dude puts his helmet on and he buttons up that

578
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 6: ten strap, Hey, I know what I'm getting out of

579
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 6: this cat, man. I know that you know, Hey, one

580
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 6: hundred percent is always coming from this dude.

581
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Speaker 7: Real quick, before Nate can I pop in? I just

582
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Speaker 7: want to know how much does Travis player role in

583
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 7: that too? Did he step in and be like no,

584
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 7: this cat you know we share the position.

585
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Speaker 3: Is he also one that steps up for you? I'm like, nah,

586
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 3: man for real?

587
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 5: Oh yeah?

588
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 6: And you know me and Trav Man, I mean just

589
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 6: being good buddies and also competing to be you know,

590
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 6: to be the best.

591
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 5: I think made us better players in the end of it.

592
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 6: You know, It's like I saw Trav a couple of

593
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 6: weeks ago, and we talked about how, hey, we needed

594
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 6: each other, we needed each other to push each other,

595
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 6: to make each other better, you know. But we always

596
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 6: had that, you know, in the back of the meeting

597
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 6: room kiki ha ha, you know, laughing and whatnot. You know,

598
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 6: I tell you what, man, yeah he ha ha man,

599
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 6: making fun of the coaches, you know, doing all that stuff,

600
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 6: keeping things lighthearted, but knowing that, hey, man, when it

601
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 6: comes Sunday and it's time to strap up, man, these dudes, No, hey,

602
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 6: it's no more keiki haha out here, we're going to

603
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 6: kicks and tail.

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Speaker 8: All my life, I've been a big jokester football I did.

605
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Speaker 8: I love football. I was a big jokes I like

606
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Speaker 8: to play. And what happened was my high school my

607
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 8: junior high coach found out that, okay, just do that

608
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Speaker 8: in a joke.

609
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Speaker 5: Best offensive lineman that.

610
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 8: Played the year before. I didn't play until my eighth

611
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 8: or ninth grade year, and they said, we're gonna put

612
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 8: Kevin Lewis on you, you know, like we'll show you

613
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Speaker 8: because I was a big jokester. I looked at coach like,

614
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 8: and I'm saying, in my mind, don't get Kevin hurt.

615
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 8: I'm just saying, you know, I'm saying this in my

616
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:20,359
Speaker 8: mind because we used to have these boards and if

617
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,399
Speaker 8: you got, if you got the guy got up.

618
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 5: Under, you can bend you over that board.

619
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Speaker 8: For the first time, I bent him over the board

620
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 8: and Kevin, Kevin huffed up on me. I look like,

621
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Speaker 8: hey man, they picked me. I didn't you know, so

622
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:34,399
Speaker 8: I'm fit to crack another joking.

623
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Speaker 5: Coach.

624
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 8: You can't do that to him again. Kevin lewis all hot, right,

625
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 8: I betted him over the board again.

626
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Speaker 5: Sorry. I think it's.

627
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Speaker 8: Somewhere that happened and height that happened in junior high

628
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 8: that happened again in high school where it's like I'm

629
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,720
Speaker 8: joking and playing, and it's that they.

630
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:00,840
Speaker 5: Don't like football. They used to say they don't like football,

631
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 5: but like I do like beating you up. Mm hmm.

632
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 5: I'm serious.

633
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 8: That was my thing is and co and all my

634
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 8: coaches would tell you, he may come here in shape,

635
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 8: he may be out of shape thirty or forty pounds,

636
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 8: but when you line up dog you better bring everything

637
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 8: you got and him it's a competitor in you that

638
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 8: don't want you, that don't not gonna let you fail

639
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 8: in that way. Man.

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00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:24,800
Speaker 5: And so but now as.

641
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 8: Time went on, I started to see the value of

642
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 8: football and the value of team and not letting my teammates.

643
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 8: That drove me more than anything. Because I was so

644
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 8: scared about letting Troy and Emmitt and Mike and Coach

645
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 8: Johnson all these guys down.

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00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:40,840
Speaker 5: They drove me to another level.

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00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 6: Yeah, and that's what the love of that game, that's yes,

648
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 6: being with that that brotherhood.

649
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, my goodness.

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Speaker 2: You know you you mentioned Joe, the the back and

651
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 2: forth that you and Travis had that that like, you know,

652
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 2: that pushed each other and made each other better. I

653
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,319
Speaker 2: remember I was talking to to Darren Woodson one time

654
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 2: and what he was saying that, you know, when when

655
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 2: you get Thomas Everett in here, you trade for Thomas

656
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 2: Everett and Ray Horton as a veteran is like a

657
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,359
Speaker 2: threatened And then you get James Washington and Brock Mary

658
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 2: and you start putting all these guys back there, and

659
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 2: it's like that balance of competitiveness versus bitterness of somebody

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Speaker 2: come and.

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Speaker 4: Take my job. And what do you always talk about?

662
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 2: The better the room was, the more stack of talent,

663
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 2: the more we pushed each other, the better it was.

664
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Speaker 2: I'm sure you ran it that you all. We've preferenced

665
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 2: it before, the late great Larry Allen. How you said,

666
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 2: Dear God, please don't let this man play guard like

667
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 2: please ron Stone, like really good players.

668
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:41,439
Speaker 8: They cut me uh from ron Uh the coach uh,

669
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 8: the stierless coach.

670
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:49,839
Speaker 5: Yeah, you cut me right him.

671
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 8: I respect him, Say, Nate, if you stay here, I

672
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 8: can't start ron Stone. We want to play ron Stone

673
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 8: and you got his job. But I said, I Shig's

674
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 8: hand eye coach and welting out of the building.

675
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 4: You know, well how much.

676
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 2: Does that though? And then let's break it back to

677
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 2: these current day cowboys when when there's a Trey Lance

678
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 2: that's traded for and people are like, what are you

679
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 2: doing here with this? Or there's Cooper Rush and he's

680
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,919
Speaker 2: going field and you've got a quarterback room where people

681
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 2: worry about basically what to them saying is when there's

682
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 2: a room full of guys where there's perceived, you know,

683
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 2: jockeying for position, how often is the reality actually that

684
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 2: some of that exists as we're all outfits here, we're

685
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 2: trying to go But at the end of the day,

686
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 2: it usually is just pushing people to be better and

687
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 2: work towards something bigger, right.

688
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 6: Because you're you're only as good as your weakest link,

689
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 6: That's right. And it's like, hey man, everybody on this

690
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,840
Speaker 6: team has to do what they need to do for

691
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 6: us to be successful. And if you're a true competitor,

692
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 6: any true competitor, you want to be going up against

693
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 6: the best because you want to know, hey, am I

694
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 6: am I the best or not?

695
00:37:58,000 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 5: You know what? And what do I need to work

696
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 5: on to be that? You know?

697
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 6: And if it, I mean you look back on it.

698
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 6: You think about games. I think about games in the NFL.

699
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 6: You know, we didn't blow people out, but when you

700
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 6: had those blowouts, you know, it's like, all right, you know,

701
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:13,439
Speaker 6: we we beat them up pretty good.

702
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 5: But when you're going against the best and you have

703
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 5: a grind that.

704
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 8: Game is God's insidy.

705
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 5: It just does something to you know.

706
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 6: It's just like, oh man, we went against the best

707
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 6: and we conquered it.

708
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 5: Man, that's Giants.

709
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 8: One year it was the Giants want of Super Bowls

710
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 8: and it's one year in Washington won a Super Bowl.

711
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:37,359
Speaker 5: Then we came and won Super Bowl.

712
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:39,839
Speaker 8: Then we went back and every year we knew when

713
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,399
Speaker 8: we played the forty nine ers or we played Green Bay,

714
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 8: it was gonna be nip and tough, and so you

715
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 8: could not, uh not think about it.

716
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, telling you what is some.

717
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 6: Of the things I don't know at Valley Rant, at

718
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 6: Valley Ranch. So my first year here was our last

719
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:08,839
Speaker 6: spring mester. What but man, that that facility.

720
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 5: Was just full of football, full of football.

721
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 6: But when you go sit down and use the bathroom

722
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 6: and the commode, whatever you want to talk about it.

723
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 5: Coach Garrett had these, uh these.

724
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:19,319
Speaker 6: Quotes in there, you know, and one of one of

725
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 6: them was the man in the Arena. So you're sitting

726
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 6: there doing what you gotta do, and you're just reading this,

727
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 6: you know, before you get ready to go out to OTA's,

728
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 6: and it's it's so true. It's like, hey, you know,

729
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 6: if if I'm going to if I'm going to put

730
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,840
Speaker 6: myself out here and I'm going to get in the

731
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:37,919
Speaker 6: arena of winning and losing, I'm going to exhaust myself

732
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:39,439
Speaker 6: irregardless of what.

733
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 5: The outcome is.

734
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 6: I'm going to exhaust myself to know that, Hey, man,

735
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 6: I gave it my all.

736
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 5: I did what I had to do for the team.

737
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 5: And if you do that, if you do that, man,

738
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:48,839
Speaker 5: you can.

739
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 8: Go to sleep with your head held So while you

740
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:52,760
Speaker 8: were sitting it, did you really exhaust yourself?

741
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 7: Oh dude, let me let me ask you on that though.

742
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 7: All right, So, and taking that Teddy Roosevelt quote and

743
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 7: then looking back on Sunday, you can have these games,

744
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 7: these games happen.

745
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 3: You've been on the wrong side of a blowout like that?

746
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, did it ever look just like that?

747
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 5: Mate? Right? Yeah? Yeah? Wow.

748
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 7: When you look at these teams in the bubble that

749
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 7: they are in right now, and you're thinking about the

750
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 7: man in the arena because they are taking a lot

751
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 7: of criticism, they all are from the very top obviously

752
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 7: all the way down. Put that in the context of

753
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 7: the man in the arena, What does it mean, what's

754
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,280
Speaker 7: really happening with the team right now?

755
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 6: Well, first of all, you know, as athletes, we subject

756
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 6: ourselves to it and we know what comes along with that.

757
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 5: We know what comes along with the media. You know,

758
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 5: I think as any.

759
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:55,840
Speaker 6: Good professional athlete, you're going to know how to navigate

760
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 6: that world.

761
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 5: But at this point in the season, if you're.

762
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 6: One of those guys in the locker room, you know,

763
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 6: we we talked a little bit about the questions that

764
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 6: they had, but you know, there's only really, you know,

765
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 6: one thing you gotta be asking yourself.

766
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:11,879
Speaker 5: It's like, how bad do I want it? How bad

767
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 5: do I want this? You know?

768
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 6: Are we gonna are we gonna you know, cry about

769
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 6: this spilled milk? Are we gonna find a solution to

770
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 6: go and win football games? And mind you, hey, we

771
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 6: might not go and win all of them, but we

772
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:25,839
Speaker 6: gotta figure it out on how we're gonna put our

773
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 6: best foot forward and compete.

774
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:34,280
Speaker 5: Put ourselves in the baby about to go pads on? Baby?

775
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 5: You see me over here, about to put the pads on.

776
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 6: Hey, honey, sweet hot, you're so pretty?

777
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 5: Why doing this? Stud your accent? But I love it.

778
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 2: I'm gonna hit We've got one more break we gotta hit.

779
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,399
Speaker 2: I'm gonna hit Looney with a question. It's the same

780
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 2: one we gave to Tyron Crawford a couple of weeks ago.

781
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 2: So I'm definitely gonna give you three minutes to think

782
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 2: about this one. Losses like the one we were just

783
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 2: talking about and the pressure that's magnified when you feel

784
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 2: like people's jobs are on the line. I want to

785
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,760
Speaker 2: know that for you guys in the twenty nineteen season,

786
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 2: when you knew so many jobs were on the line,

787
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 2: if you felt internally that pressure of what was on

788
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 2: the line for people that you were playing for and

789
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 2: playing under. So we're gonna get Joe Looney's thoughts on that.

790
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Speaker 2: That's next on the SWBC Cowboys Cross Talk.

791
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Speaker 10: Oh yeah, Joe, cowbos, no cowbaws, no cowboys.

792
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793
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Speaker 9: Go Cowboys.

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Speaker 4: I'm Bobby Belt from through the fans.

801
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 2: I've got Will Chambers from one O five through the fan,

802
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 2: Nate Newton, the six time Pro bowler, three time Super

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Speaker 2: Bowl champion, and then we've got our special guest tonight,

804
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Speaker 2: Joe Ny. The polar results are in the Straw Poll.

805
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:04,840
Speaker 2: Results are the most popular high school teacher in Frisco.

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00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 4: Probably knocked it out. It was very.

807
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 2: Informal, but the results did play out that way, all right.

808
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 2: So Joe asked you before the twenty nineteen was a

809
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:24,399
Speaker 2: year where very publicly discussions were had by general manager, coach,

810
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 2: everybody else about, Yeah, the head coaches in the last

811
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 2: year of his deal and he's going to just have

812
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 2: to play this out and earn his opportunity, and those

813
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 2: are you guys started out three and zero, then there

814
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 2: was three straight losses after that, and just it was

815
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 2: a lot of back and forth. There was the very

816
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 2: promment I think it was the Bills Thanksgiving game right

817
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:44,760
Speaker 2: after Michael Bennett got here, and Michael Bennett was was

818
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,240
Speaker 2: screaming in the locker room, how said he was with everything.

819
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 2: So it's a very difficult and kind of, you know,

820
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:53,280
Speaker 2: up and down sort of year. What I'm curious about

821
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:55,800
Speaker 2: is when we talk in the media, you hear discussions

822
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 2: in the media about ooh, focus on the job, and

823
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:01,919
Speaker 2: after every single loss, did you guys feel that way?

824
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 2: And in turn, do you think the players right now

825
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 2: feel that sort of weight of every single loss of Man,

826
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 2: this is gonna be a loud week.

827
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Speaker 5: I think. I think the players are definitely feeling it.

828
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 5: I think as.

829
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 6: As a player, you know, when you get these contracts

830
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 6: and everybody's you know, getting paid and everybody's happy, you

831
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 6: definitely feel a sense of, hey, we got to go

832
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:28,240
Speaker 6: out here and perform. And if you watch that game

833
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 6: on Sunday, it almost it almost looks like the.

834
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 5: Guys are just, you know, kind of.

835
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:38,319
Speaker 8: So tense and straining, got to make a play right now.

836
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:40,799
Speaker 6: Instead of just you know, hey, let's just go out here.

837
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 6: Let these plays come to us. But when we make

838
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 6: the when the play shows up, you gotta make it.

839
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 6: And just doing the mundane things the correct way, doing

840
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 6: those day to day routine runs, routine throws, you know,

841
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:59,240
Speaker 6: at a high level. But also there is a sense

842
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 6: of however, this is going on, but it does give

843
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:07,360
Speaker 6: you this, Hey, man, we got none to lose, we

844
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 6: got none to lose, so let's just go play. Let's

845
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 6: just go play, and when we put one together that

846
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:14,839
Speaker 6: we're proud of, we'll go back and watch this and

847
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 6: build alph of mere and this is.

848
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 5: What we'll use as our foundation.

849
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Speaker 9: Man.

850
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 2: All right, this is a sort of in that similar

851
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 2: vein I guess in terms of hearing noise and Nate,

852
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:27,359
Speaker 2: I can't remember if I've asked you this before. If

853
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:29,280
Speaker 2: I have, I'm gonna ask you again because I'm curious.

854
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 2: When they talk about a common word you hear in

855
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 2: NFL circles in Dallas and outside, here is the phrase,

856
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 2: block out the noise, block out the noise, Block out

857
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 2: the noise, block up the noise. We're talking about the

858
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboys and such a pronger role. And take it

859
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:46,280
Speaker 2: to other sports, the Yankees, the Celtics, the Lakers, wherever else.

860
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:48,320
Speaker 4: You want to take it.

861
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 2: Is blocking out the noise a reasonable strategy to hand

862
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 2: your players or do you instead need to say I

863
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 2: know you're gonna hear it, and instead I'm gonna show

864
00:48:58,040 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 2: you this is how you canpartmentalize it.

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Speaker 4: This how you put context to it, and that's how

866
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 4: you deal with it.

867
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 10: Yeah.

868
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 6: I think you you tell them, yeah, you're going to

869
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 6: hear the noise, you know, especially being with.

870
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 5: The Dallas Cowboys.

871
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:10,760
Speaker 6: Huh, with that star, anywhere that star goes, you're gonna

872
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:13,359
Speaker 6: hear the noise and it goes back to just being

873
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:16,720
Speaker 6: a professional guys. Hey, X, Y and Z are gonna

874
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:18,880
Speaker 6: say whatever they have to say about you because that's

875
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:21,799
Speaker 6: what they're doing. That's their job, all right. But we

876
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 6: have a job to do also. We gotta go out

877
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 6: here and perform.

878
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 5: That's what we do.

879
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 6: You're a performer, so you go out there and you perform.

880
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 8: The thing is first of all, it's gonna hurt some

881
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 8: people feeling they had the players to do it. They

882
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 8: had an old line that could do it. We had

883
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 8: the players that can do it. Cowboys is in a

884
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 8: flux right now. Too many young players, too many old players,

885
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 8: not enough dogs in the middle.

886
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 5: So they're in a bad flux right now.

887
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 8: You action third teams and guys that was on practice

888
00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 8: squads to fear your defense coming off injuries. You know,

889
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 8: guys are beat up. So we were, we were in

890
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:09,839
Speaker 8: different deals. We could see the light when we.

891
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:11,799
Speaker 5: Gave the eleven sacks against Philadelphia.

892
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:14,840
Speaker 8: We were a young team with Jimmy and we started

893
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:15,880
Speaker 8: to grow right from that.

894
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 5: You know, y'all that bad.

895
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 8: Loss against Buffalo, but y'all started to grow right because

896
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 8: you had Right now, this team doesn't have the players

897
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 8: are the mentality, So you may see a little bit

898
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:31,280
Speaker 8: more that I hope not. Y'all know how I feel.

899
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 8: But right now, defensively, we don't have it. The only

900
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 8: thing we have is a young offensive line trying to

901
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:41,280
Speaker 8: pull themselves together to give our star players a chance

902
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:42,360
Speaker 8: to proscer.

903
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:45,840
Speaker 7: How about this when we were just talking during the

904
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 7: break in a little bit here in the beginning about

905
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 7: the two thousand and eight season, I you know, was

906
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 7: wondering about how you know things got turned around?

907
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 5: Right?

908
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 3: I mean you Mark Cooper trading.

909
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 7: There's times when there was the noise, and you can

910
00:50:57,719 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 7: say block out the noise, But there's times with the

911
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 7: noise can galvanized teams.

912
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 3: Right. What about the opposite of it, when there is

913
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 3: noise and it's valid. Does that hit a locker room?

914
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 8: No players hit locker rooms, DISGRUNTLD players. What you need

915
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 8: for your stars is you gotta see enthusiasm. Like he

916
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:25,239
Speaker 8: was talking about Jason Garrett like I'm gonna dislike it.

917
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:28,359
Speaker 8: You never saw him down. You never saw him not

918
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 8: trying to work day yeah, and trying to put something

919
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 8: in place.

920
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 5: We never I never saw Mike Irvan. The worst I

921
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 5: ever seen.

922
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:38,880
Speaker 8: Mike Irvin was the year before Jimmy came, he was

923
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 8: sitting on the bench crying because we had lost.

924
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 5: That's the worst I.

925
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 8: Ever saw him. But any other time it was a

926
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 8: determination in his eyes. When you look at Troy, he

927
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:50,760
Speaker 8: had a cold grace. Still look like, I'm going forward.

928
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:53,840
Speaker 8: You may not be here with me, but I'm going forward.

929
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 8: So they don't have and I want Dak to be

930
00:51:58,800 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 8: this guy.

931
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:01,440
Speaker 5: I want see need to be this guy. Do you

932
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:03,839
Speaker 5: see it on him? But right now you don't, just

933
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 5: you don't see it. I feel it now.

934
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 8: I'm not in their locker room, so I don't. I

935
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:09,239
Speaker 8: can't say that.

936
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 2: That's actually I'm I'm glad you brought that up. That

937
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 2: was something I was wanting to touch on, or an

938
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 2: example of it. There's been some we we've seen it

939
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:18,759
Speaker 2: over at our station when listeners fans are talking back

940
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:21,319
Speaker 2: to tell things. We've heard some people saying like, where

941
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 2: where's Dak cracking skulls? Where's Dak?

942
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:24,440
Speaker 5: You know?

943
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 4: Doing things.

944
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 7: Here?

945
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 4: Here's well, here's the thing.

946
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:30,959
Speaker 2: And Joe, you'll be able to speak to this more

947
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:33,839
Speaker 2: accurately than just me hearing things secondhand. When you talk

948
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 2: to people in the locker room. Is that you'll hear

949
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 2: from people that they'll say Dak will absolutely get in

950
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 2: your face at a practice.

951
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:43,839
Speaker 4: Dak doesn't viewed as productive to do it in front

952
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 4: of people.

953
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:46,279
Speaker 2: Dak is not going to Dak is not going to

954
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:49,279
Speaker 2: show people up in front of national cameras or anything else.

955
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:51,799
Speaker 2: But you are going to be held to account by

956
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 2: Dak in other areas. At other times it's just Dak says,

957
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 2: that is closed doors. That is for us here. We

958
00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:01,360
Speaker 2: do this inside. It's nobody else's business how we address

959
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 2: those issues, for sure. So leadership styles like that from

960
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 2: both of you. The idea of the guy who I'm

961
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 2: gonna do it privately, that's what I'm gonna do. I'm

962
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:14,279
Speaker 2: gonna do it very publicly on the sideline. The guy who, hey,

963
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do it in uh coded messages. You're not

964
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:19,360
Speaker 2: even to understand when I'm talking. I remember there was

965
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:21,719
Speaker 2: one time a practice the eighteen season, I think it

966
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:24,439
Speaker 2: was Daka was standing up in his locker and he said,

967
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 2: you know, we got some guys that need to practice a.

968
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:26,760
Speaker 4: Little bit harder.

969
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 2: And the reporter came back and said, so, you know,

970
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 2: you were saying you need a practice art and Deac

971
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:31,799
Speaker 2: said no, I didn't say I needed to practice ARTERX.

972
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 2: So we got guy and I was like, oh okay,

973
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:37,799
Speaker 2: Dak check it in little but different leadership styles. Talk

974
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 2: about how you think those play and what value that

975
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:43,320
Speaker 2: comes from in terms of the different approach.

976
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 5: Yeah.

977
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 6: So I think on either side of the spectrum, as

978
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 6: long as it's coming from a place of our spirit

979
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 6: of helpfulness, then it's good. You know, because you do

980
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 6: have a locker room full of grown men. You know,

981
00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 6: these are grown men. You know when I'm messed up,

982
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 6: I didn't need any buddy to come tell me, Hey, looney,

983
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 6: you messed that one up. You really screwed the boots there.

984
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:07,319
Speaker 6: No man, Hey, I know coaches Saint rocket Science. I

985
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 6: snapped the ball over the quarterbacks. I'm sorry, I'm sorry,

986
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:11,759
Speaker 6: don't cut me.

987
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:12,320
Speaker 5: Please look it.

988
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:16,800
Speaker 6: But I think that on either side of the spectrum,

989
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 6: whether you got those guys who are gonna publicly do

990
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 6: it or privately do it, as long as they have

991
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:24,319
Speaker 6: the mindset of the team, then that's what that's what's

992
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 6: gonna help them move forward. And two with the Cowboys, Man,

993
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 6: the Cowboys, you got to understand that, I don't care

994
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:33,760
Speaker 6: what team you're playing when you're playing, teams are gonna play.

995
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:34,920
Speaker 5: You like it's their Super Bowl.

996
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:37,439
Speaker 6: Yes, when you played the Cowboys, man, I remember being

997
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 6: with the forty nine ers coming out coming out here

998
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 6: to at and T Stadium, thinking, oh, yeah, man, these

999
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 6: guys are in the NFL.

1000
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:45,400
Speaker 5: They got it all. They got the nicest facilities, this

1001
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:45,719
Speaker 5: and that.

1002
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:47,719
Speaker 6: Man, we're about to go try to you know, take

1003
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 6: their heads off right now, you know. And that's what

1004
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 6: that's what the mentality. Yeah, that's the mentality of the

1005
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:55,840
Speaker 6: league outside of the Cowboys. It's like even when the

1006
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 6: Cowboys are losing right now.

1007
00:54:57,440 --> 00:54:58,760
Speaker 3: We're going to play the rich kids.

1008
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, we're still talking bottom be going to play South

1009
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 5: play Carrol.

1010
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 4: Nate you for you did?

1011
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:07,960
Speaker 5: Was there?

1012
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 2: I mean, you guys were such a a bright and

1013
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 2: and then big personality team. Was there anybody in those

1014
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 2: locker rooms in the nineties for you that there was

1015
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:18,719
Speaker 2: People wouldn't have seen public accountability, but hey, that was

1016
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 2: somebody who definitely.

1017
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 5: O Otober will call you out, you know.

1018
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:25,359
Speaker 8: Emmitt, you know, started getting vocal in the in the

1019
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:29,240
Speaker 8: in the media, but our guys knew how to handle us.

1020
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 5: I was that guy.

1021
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 8: If you wanted to say something to Looney, and Looney

1022
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 8: was what leon Lett was sensitive.

1023
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 5: Here, they'll come cust me.

1024
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 8: They'll be getting at me, looking at leon and leon

1025
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 8: knew us, but they knew that.

1026
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 5: Nate didn't care. Nate was gonna ball when it come

1027
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:46,319
Speaker 5: time something. He was gonna try to do what to do.

1028
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:51,440
Speaker 8: But my thing is, I asked our quarterback now number

1029
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 8: one up in front of him on the sidewalking training

1030
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 8: camp two years I said, man, you need to get

1031
00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 8: He said, no, Nate, I'm not gonna do it.

1032
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 5: That ain't my style.

1033
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:04,239
Speaker 8: I love my guys. Yes, some of my guys mess

1034
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:07,439
Speaker 8: up royally, run roan routes, do bad things, but I'm

1035
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 8: not gonna do it. You gotta understand that. I said,

1036
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:11,319
Speaker 8: thank you, Dad, and.

1037
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 2: I yeah, that's a that's a good place to leave

1038
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 2: it right there. And look, Nate, Ny we got We

1039
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:18,879
Speaker 2: got through the whole game without analyzing the.

1040
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:23,160
Speaker 3: We're good teammates.

1041
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 4: Now there you go. That is That is Bye.

1042
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Speaker 2: Week content for Will Chambers, Nate Newton, and our special

1043
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Speaker 2: guest Joe Loony. I'm Bobby Belt. This has been the

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Speaker 2: SLBBC Cowboys cross talk pribe.

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Speaker 8: Is this clear leadership.

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