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Speaker 1: Hey there, folks, it is Friday, January ninth, and yes,

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Speaker 1: did he is sitting in prison, but things actually just

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Speaker 1: got worse for him. And with that, welcome to this

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Speaker 1: episode of Amy and TJ just got works, Robes, because

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Speaker 1: he has very few options for getting out of prison

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Speaker 1: and one of them apparently just went away.

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Speaker 2: It's coming out of DC.

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Speaker 3: Yes it is. And look, we have been waiting to

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Speaker 3: see if President Trump would pardon or consider pardoning did he?

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Speaker 3: This has been on the table from the get go

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Speaker 3: before his trial, During his trial, after his trial, he

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Speaker 3: has been asked. The President has been asked repeatedly, hey,

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Speaker 3: would you consider pardoning?

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Speaker 2: Did he?

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Speaker 1: And he was asked one more time by the New

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Speaker 1: York Times And this was the one and the reason

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Speaker 1: we were hopping on given the update, Robes is because

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Speaker 1: he gave an answer like he had never given before.

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Speaker 1: And we're actually getting the most official, I guess response

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Speaker 1: and confirmation that a request has been made.

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Speaker 3: That's right. So Trump has revealed for the first time

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Speaker 3: ever that did he actually sent him a letter asking

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Speaker 3: for a pardon, And for the first time ever, we

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Speaker 3: heard the President say he is not considering granting Diddy's

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Speaker 3: request for that pardon.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's side.

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Speaker 1: Look, his appeals are going on, and his lawyers are

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Speaker 1: the best in the country and are making the best

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Speaker 1: legal arguments. But if you were a betting man or

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Speaker 1: a betten woman, and you were in Vegas and you

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Speaker 1: put your money on which of these two is his

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Speaker 1: best option, a lot of people might have put their

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Speaker 1: money on a pardon from Trump.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, And look, we have been hearing from him, and

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Speaker 3: we'll get into some of the back and forth. But

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Speaker 3: the President had not shut the door, and you were

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Speaker 3: even saying, by the language he chose with the New

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Speaker 3: open for the possibility perhaps in the future.

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Speaker 1: Obviously, he I say, obviously, it's it's it's obvious to me.

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Speaker 1: But we speak on Rose. He's the headlines are everywhere

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Speaker 1: this morning, and folks will see them that say Trump

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Speaker 1: says he is not going to pardon Diddyo, or Trump

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Speaker 1: shuts the door on partning Diddy or all those things,

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Speaker 1: and you could read it as such, but his language robes.

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Speaker 1: He didn't say I'm not going to pardon this man.

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Speaker 1: He chose his words carefully, and they could be true.

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Speaker 1: I am not considering partnering him, which is a statement

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Speaker 3: Not considering him doesn't say I'll never consider him or

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Speaker 3: I won't consider him in the future. Just right now,

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Speaker 3: I am not considering And he didn't say right now,

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Speaker 3: but you could infer that that is a part of

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Speaker 3: that sentence. And look this letter that we're hearing about.

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Speaker 3: So when he tells the New York Times that he

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Speaker 3: asked me for a pardon through a letter, obviously the

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Speaker 3: be can we see it? And in fact President Trump

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Speaker 3: to see that letter? He knew exactly that. Obviously, reporters

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Speaker 3: how he asked him and what he said, that would

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Speaker 2: I don't know if we'll see it.

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Speaker 1: It felt like one of the things once again that right,

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Speaker 1: Trump is very good at dangling over the press and

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Speaker 1: I got the impression, Brob, do you tell me that

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Speaker 1: this was a letter. This wasn't a legal letter, This

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Speaker 1: wasn't something written by an attorney. This was from Diddy personally.

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Speaker 3: It did seem that's what he the way he said it,

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Speaker 3: it did sound as though Sean Didty Combs personally wrote

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Speaker 3: to see the letter? So, of course the reporter said yes.

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Speaker 3: But then they made it very clear in the article

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Speaker 3: us a description of its contents. We'll take that too.

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Speaker 3: The White House just referred reporters back to his original

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Speaker 3: So they also tried to go through Ditty's lawyers. They

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Speaker 1: I know this is significant after what we saw last year. Alter,

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Speaker 1: I mean this was the talk of the tier the year,

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Speaker 2: Was it not?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely?

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Speaker 1: It had implications of race, of the entertainment industry, power men, abuse,

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Speaker 1: It just had all of these elements to it that

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Speaker 1: but we were having real conversations about what this meant,

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Speaker 2: So to think that the guy at the center.

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Speaker 1: Of all of that might possibly end up walking out

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Speaker 1: to hear that one of his what some would say

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Speaker 3: It certainly does. So he loses what, yes, many would

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Speaker 3: a lot of us I mean, we mentioned it, but

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Speaker 3: we didn't focus on it. Because it was on Christmas Eve,

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Speaker 3: December twenty fourth, that Diddy's lawyer made that official appeal.

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Speaker 3: So they appealed his conviction and they also appealed his sentence,

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Speaker 3: so his attorney, one of his attorneys, Alexandra Shapiro, I

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Speaker 3: this really is his last ditch, This is his last

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Speaker 3: in the filing, she called his sentence unlawful, unconstitutional, and

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Speaker 3: a perversion of justice, and she asked the appeals court

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Speaker 3: to consider two things. First of all, just to actually

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Speaker 3: be re sentenced. And that's interesting because they are going

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Speaker 3: They actually used this word. They said the judge flouted

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Speaker 3: new guylines and improperly considered conduct for which Combs had

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Speaker 3: already been acquitted when they when the judge formulated his sentence.

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Speaker 3: And we've talked a lot about this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the judge was I mean, the judge

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Speaker 1: a bad dude who did some bad stuff, and I'm

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Speaker 1: still going to consider stuff you were not convicted of

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 3: So in the filing, Diddy's attorneys said that the judge

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Speaker 3: acted as a thirteenth juror exactly to what you're saying.

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Speaker 3: So he acted as a thirteenth jurer in the case,

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Speaker 3: and they called the sentence draconian. So they are going

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Speaker 3: after this judge in a way that they haven't before

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Speaker 3: because up until now they've been trying to appeal to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he was literally his judge. I mean, he was

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Speaker 1: judging him on everything. So yeah, they were very kind

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Speaker 3: But he's been doing a fabulous job right right before

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Speaker 3: the verdict. Yes, he was doing his best to try

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Speaker 3: get him out of prison. They were actually appealing directly

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Speaker 3: to that judge. They said, Hey, he was convicted under

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Speaker 3: the Man Act. This was not an act that was

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Speaker 3: intended for its current use. This is an act just

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Speaker 3: of the law, and it was applied to Diddy to

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Speaker 3: get these longer prison sentences. The judge said, nah, too bad,

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Speaker 3: so sad. So that didn't work appealing to the judge.

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Speaker 3: So now they're appealing to a federal appellate court, and

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Speaker 3: they're throwing the judge under the bus.

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Speaker 1: Yes, appealing to an appellate court, but no longer can

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Speaker 1: he appeal to maybe President Trump, who now seems to

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Speaker 1: be saying he is not considering a pardon. But would

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Speaker 1: you believe, folks, we have to go back, maybe I

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Speaker 1: don't know, ten years to get the answer as to

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Speaker 1: why did he isn't at home chilling in Miami right now. Yes,

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Speaker 1: it has to do with his relationship with President Trump,

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Speaker 1: we'll explain, all right, We continue here on Amy and

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Speaker 1: back and forth. We talk about how much he has

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Speaker 3: Yes, we have so many quotes over the past several

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Speaker 3: be leaning when it came to whether or not he

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Speaker 3: they did at one point have a friendly relationship. He said,

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Speaker 3: I'm going to quote the president here. I was very

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Speaker 3: but when I ran for office, he was very hostile.

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Speaker 3: That is the key point here. So everything was good

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Speaker 3: until twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 2: Do you remember what did he said?

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Speaker 1: There was something out there but I can't remember it

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Speaker 1: being that harsh or maybe what he took it personally.

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Speaker 3: He did take it personally. And I don't know the

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Speaker 3: exact comments that Trump is referring to, but he says

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Speaker 3: that Colmbs made some nasty statements about him at the

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Speaker 3: time when he was running for president. He said that

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Speaker 3: Combs used to really like me a lot, but that

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Speaker 3: relationship busted up, and so here are a few other things.

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Speaker 3: He said that we could read the tea leaves, but

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Speaker 3: he always left open this possibility that he might consider it.

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Speaker 3: So he said, I haven't seen him, I haven't spoken

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Speaker 3: to him for years. I don't know. I would certainly

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Speaker 3: look at the facts. If I think somebody was mistreated,

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Speaker 3: it wouldn't matter whether they like me or don't. Do

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Speaker 3: you believe that, No, I don't either, Because then he

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Speaker 3: kept saying other things that belied that last statement. He said,

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Speaker 3: after the ditty verdict, I had not heard this one before.

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Speaker 3: Tell me if you did before. But President Trump said

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't remember that one. I don't at all.

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Speaker 2: That did make a lot of head No it did not.

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Speaker 3: But he said, we're human beings. We don't like to

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Speaker 3: it's more difficult, makes it more I'm being honest, makes

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Speaker 3: So to me, that was the point. He he and

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Speaker 3: You know, when you first go into the workforce, someone

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Speaker 3: I don't know, made a comment about the political race.

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Speaker 3: This might just be a warning. You never know, you

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Speaker 1: Need lessons today from Diddy and Trump. But that is

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Speaker 1: one hundred percent correct when you think of the possibility

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Speaker 1: that Diddy could be home right now in that fifty

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Speaker 1: not said anything about Trump running for office, or not

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Speaker 1: Just it's incredible to maybe think about where he would be.

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Speaker 1: And so, yes, that maybe that's the lesson.

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Speaker 2: Just be careful.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, the thing is you you imagine, I mean,

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Speaker 3: no matter what someone's accused of, no matter what someone's

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Speaker 3: someone like President Trump. I'm not saying he wouldn't consider

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Speaker 1: I thought it was an honest statement, and I thought

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Speaker 3: Wouldn't you love to read that letter though?

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Speaker 1: But still, people like to be praised and honored and

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Speaker 1: So we'll see man, Glenn Maxwell's diddy. My goodness, that's

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