1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: This he's hanging with the Talking Cowboys break streaming live 2 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: on Dallas Cowboys dot com and the official Dallas Cowboys app. Well. 3 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 1: Breaking news coming out of the Star in Frisco. Here 4 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: today on a Thursday, Rob Phillips joined by Mickey Spagnola, 5 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 1: David Hellman, Nick Eatman, Kick Garrison producing, We've got a 6 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: new offensive coordinator here with your Dallas Cowboys. I don't 7 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: know if this is a huge shock, but it is 8 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:32,200 Speaker 1: now official. Kellen Moore, the new OC for your Dallas Cowboys, 9 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 1: and John kitten of the new quarterbacks coach. Jerry almost 10 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 1: tipped his hand last night on the fan, just almost 11 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 1: almost or just did kind of did. Yeah, he stopped 12 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:46,560 Speaker 1: himself and said, Jason will probably be sending this out 13 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: pretty soon, very quickly. We got a nit definition of 14 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:53,520 Speaker 1: soon then, didn't we? Yeah, seriously, I mean, I'm I'm 15 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: surprised in the sense that I thought this would happen 16 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 1: Monday or Tuesday after the Super Bowl. M me too. 17 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe the firmness Jerry Jones literally last night said 18 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: to do it, said I'm gonna I'm gonna let I'm 19 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: gonna let Jason make an announcement here soon. But I 20 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 1: won't be surprised if if you know, Kellen Moore is 21 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:15,919 Speaker 1: heavily involved in making the play calls on the field 22 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: next year or ultimately he has the full responsibility. Like 23 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 1: that's what he said. Let he's gonna let Jason do it. 24 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 1: So he's gonna let Jason make the announcement except not 25 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: really really, And he didn't want to take away from 26 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:30,960 Speaker 1: the super Bowl except not really, except he always does right, 27 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 1: Anythony Davis already did that in the NBA. Right, I 28 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: gotta trumped him on Monday. But hey, it's this is 29 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: big news regardless, Nick, Yeah, it is big news. And 30 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 1: you know there's a big question out there about you 31 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: know what, what's gonna be different? What's different? Because because 32 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: Lenahan and Kellen Moore were always connected together, But you 33 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: know what's he going to be able to do it 34 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: to call these plays that are different? And hopefully it's 35 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: get Dak Prescott more involved as a runner in my opinion, 36 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: to be able to do more things that he's good at. 37 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: So that's what I'm hoping we'll see at a Calmore. Now, 38 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: have you guys ever been in a bowling class in college? 39 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: He almost failed it. Yeah, Sword of God, because what 40 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: probably happened is you're supposed to go out there and 41 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: throw out like a forty four to start it off, 42 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 1: and then from the rest on it's like, well, you 43 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: can only get better from there, and that's how you're graded. 44 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: Went out seven points in the Pro Bowl. You know, 45 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: no one's expected much. You can only get better from that. 46 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: But I do like the flee flicker he called, you 47 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: do like your fleeflickers. I can't. How about the snap 48 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: to to Zeke? Yeah, all that, I can't. I can't 49 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: grade a guy on a game where running backs were 50 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: rushing the passer A lot of people did know people 51 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: did one hundred and less than one hundred and fifty 52 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:47,639 Speaker 1: yards and seven points in a game designed to score 53 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 1: points and not be real football is not good, But 54 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 1: it's so far. When he got his quarterback and they 55 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: went down to school, damn right, they did Russell Wilson's fault. 56 00:02:56,160 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: That's Mitch Rubisky out of here, miss Rubisky. That it's interesting, 57 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,359 Speaker 1: I mean to your question like I don't know, I 58 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 1: like I've heard you know. Travis Frederick had a glowing 59 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: endorsement of his football IQ. His coaches at Boise State 60 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:14,919 Speaker 1: have been quoted recently Dak Prescott is obviously his biggest fan, 61 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: going all the way back to twenty sixteen. But how 62 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: can you sit here and know for sure one way 63 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: or the other if it's going to look different. I mean, 64 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: I think it would be disingenuous to to just rave 65 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: that it's going to be this vast departure. I don't 66 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: expect it to be a huge departure. I think this 67 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 1: hire makes a lot of sense for the type of 68 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: things that Jason Garrett likes to do. I think he 69 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: wants familiarity. I think he wants a guy that he 70 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: knows well and can work with. Doesn't mean Kellen Moore 71 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: won't be able to have his own ideas, But you know, 72 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: I don't think Jason Garrett wants to go out and 73 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: hire some guy he's never met to be in charge 74 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 1: of his offense, especially if he's got one year left 75 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 1: on his contract. So I don't know, it's curious. I 76 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: don't know what to expect, but I'm willing to have 77 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: an open mind that Kellen Moore can bring some new 78 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: st off at the table. For sure. I think we 79 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 1: have to see how it pans out. I mean, it's 80 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 1: one thing to have a title. It's another thing to 81 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: see how much authority you have. And you know, he's 82 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: not gonna sit in his office just you know, and 83 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:17,720 Speaker 1: be an independent contractor and start, you know, drawing up 84 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 1: some extravagant things in the offense. Jason Garrett's going to 85 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: be heavily involved in the game planning during the week 86 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: and putting the scheme together. Now, Kellen may call the plays, 87 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:37,359 Speaker 1: but remember Jason has a headset on, just like he 88 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: had a headset on when Lenahan was here. And you 89 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: can talk on the headset to each other. So it's 90 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: not like this guy's gonna have Kellen's gonna just have 91 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: free rein to do whatever nilly willie he wants to do. 92 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 1: You know, Jason still can trump him on a play 93 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: call or this is what we're gonna do. We scripted 94 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: this stuff, pick that play from that situation to call now. 95 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 1: And so I still think he'll have a heavy hand 96 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 1: in in developing what the game plan he is on 97 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 1: for Sundays. Yeah, and I think, well, Jason loves to 98 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 1: use the word collaborative. Jerry used it last night too. 99 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 1: I think we've heard way too much talk about Doug Nussmeyer, 100 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: John Kittner. You know, it kind of gets buried under 101 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:22,919 Speaker 1: the Kella Moore news, but he's officially on the staff 102 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 1: as the quarterbacks coach. Yep, Jerry Jones. I don't want 103 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 1: to say surprising, but I thought it was noteworthy how 104 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 1: often Jerry Jones brought up Mark Colombo as a guy 105 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:35,719 Speaker 1: whose ideas he's interested in. MY main point being is 106 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 1: I think mixed right. I think there's gonna be a 107 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 1: lot of people involved in this. I think it's kind 108 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: of you know, Kelly Moore might ultimately call the plays, 109 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: he's the offensive coordinator. I think there's gonna be a 110 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:47,280 Speaker 1: lot of voices involved in putting the plan together. Jerry 111 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: spoke to that yesterday on the fan. He called it 112 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: a collaborative effort, and he said he wants these young coaches. 113 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,039 Speaker 1: I think he said he wants some you know, figuratively 114 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 1: step in front of the train, brings some new ideas 115 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: to the table, try to figure out ways to get 116 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 1: this offense better than it was last year. And I 117 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 1: know Mickey and I discussed this on Talking Cowboys. I 118 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 1: know them the break you guys have too. I mean, 119 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: no question the offense improved, not coincidentally with Amari Cooper, 120 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 1: uh there down the stretch. But there's still growth, room 121 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: for growth. There a lot of room for growth there. 122 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 1: When you look at the offenses that made it to 123 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: the Final four this season in the AFC, in the NFC, 124 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 1: they were more prolific over the course of the entire 125 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: season than this Dallas offense, no question about it. Yeah, 126 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 1: and then and then the Saints scored twenty three points. 127 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: I don't really care about that. I'm talking about the 128 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 1: entire macro. But the Rams defense was was good, and 129 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 1: I don't know what took them so long to kind 130 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 1: of get there, But I mean their defense is like 131 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: finally turned you know, all the all the guys they 132 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: had brought in and all the money they had paid 133 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: for they finally played like it there in the playoffs, 134 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 1: you know, and merely shut down. And we saw the Saints. 135 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: I mean, the Saints guy shot down by a cowboy 136 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: defense as well. So that's that happens. But you're right, Rob, 137 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: the red zones got to get better. I gotta get 138 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: more consistent there, and I you know, I think I 139 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:08,479 Speaker 1: think they need help at tight end. I mean, I 140 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: think we everyone thinks that that they need to get 141 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: help at tight end. But I think the tight end 142 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: will help with the red zone if you can get 143 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: a real um blocking tight end who can who can catch? Yeah? 144 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: Or how about just a tight end who's played ten 145 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: games in the NFL. Yeah, that would help too. And 146 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: so now you've got he's the second round pick actually 147 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: played right, You played with three tight ends after Swain 148 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: got hurt that had never played in the end. But 149 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: but that's there. That's that's another thing that's got to 150 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: change here in my opinion. You know, drop the arrogance. 151 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: I mean, drop drop the like we do what we 152 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: do and we're gonna put in Just because you put 153 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: te next to the guy's name doesn't mean they are 154 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 1: real tight ends. And and and they they they went 155 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: into last year thinking we don't need a number one receiver, 156 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: watch this, we don't really need we can replace Witten 157 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: with this, And that's not true. Now now they scrambled 158 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: halfway through the year to get a first round pick receiver. 159 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 1: And I think they didn't need to get it. I mean, 160 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: just quit acting like you got it all figured out, like, well, 161 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: that's that's what they do. But they, well, to your 162 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 1: to their credit, they figured out halfway through. We got 163 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: to do something with a Dak even spoke to this 164 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: on the fan today. We'll get to a cut from 165 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: him about Kellen later, but uh, he said, I wasn't 166 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: comfortable early in the season because we had it wasn't 167 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: like guys weren't trying to get open or getting open, 168 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: but we were shifting guys in any team receivers either 169 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:34,959 Speaker 1: I needed. Basically, he said, I needed consistency with the rotation. 170 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: And that's what they figured out. Um, and they should 171 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 1: have played more in preseason because this wasn't an established team. 172 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 1: Played the first team offense needed to play and and 173 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:51,559 Speaker 1: they just assume, Okay, now this season opener and we're 174 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: gonna turn it on, and we got everything figured out 175 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: and score eight points. That goes. I mean, that's a 176 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:59,559 Speaker 1: whole other conversation. I mean, you know, if you want 177 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:01,079 Speaker 1: to go all the way back to August, I mean, 178 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: three fifths of the offensive line is missing, Travis Fredericks 179 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:09,319 Speaker 1: being diagnosed with autoimmune diseases, Like, I mean, there were 180 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: some factors there other than think, well we're good, isn't 181 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 1: it the rams? And I don't know this because I'm 182 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 1: kind of on the fence when it comes to the 183 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 1: preseason stuff. But winning the Rams, the team that did 184 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 1: played absolutely nobody. They sat a lot of guys and 185 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 1: then start off well. So I mean, I think there's 186 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 1: cases for both, but well, no, what I was gonna 187 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 1: say to your point is like, Okay, they deserve credit 188 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: for recognizing the problem with Amari Cooper. They also deserved 189 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 1: plenty of blame for feeling okay that that was a 190 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 1: good idea. The tight end thing, I'm not as willing 191 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:40,079 Speaker 1: to kill them for, Like we talked about this on 192 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: the break the other day, like it kind of gets 193 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 1: swept under the rug, like Jason Witten did them no favors, Yeah, 194 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 1: no favors whatsoever. I mean, you wake up on Friday 195 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: morning and find out you might not have your starting 196 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: tight end Friday morning of the NFL Draft, Like that's 197 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: when they've knew for sure that they weren't going to 198 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: have them. Like that's crappy timing. So I don't want 199 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:01,319 Speaker 1: to kill them for being arrogant there. I think they 200 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 1: kind of they probably got caught a little flat footed 201 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: and just in hindsight, you know, Philadelphia got them by 202 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 1: one pick. But do you would you have wanted them 203 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: to take Goddard. No, no, and it's a gigantic myth. 204 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: I think they were always interested in Connor Williams. Maybe 205 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 1: Philly was being preemptive because they thought the Cowboys might 206 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 1: draft Alice Goddard. But we'll go fire up the audio 207 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: of the phone calls. They were but okay, But now 208 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 1: after what you've seen and in one year and they're 209 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 1: both about the same, they kind of I'm well, I 210 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 1: would say Goddard got better as the year went on 211 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: and Connor kind of had a little up and down. 212 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:41,679 Speaker 1: Now after everything that's happened, and you really haven't fixed 213 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: tight end and you got to a filo in the mix. 214 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 1: I think you can address it this year though, because 215 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 1: it just it's early. But looking at the draft, it's 216 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 1: pretty rich and tight ends. I mean, you could go 217 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 1: find one and is he gonna come in here and 218 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: be able to block when you go two tight ends? 219 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 1: Because that was their problem. They stuck with at two 220 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: tight end, think because that's what we do. But the 221 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:06,439 Speaker 1: two tight ends couldn't block. And let's not kid ourselves. 222 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 1: At the end of Witton's career, he wasn't exactly a 223 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:12,319 Speaker 1: block of granite out there blocking. I'm very comfortable having 224 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 1: a guy who can start at left guard or theoretically 225 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: maybe help me address my tackle problems. Yeah, that's another conversation, 226 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 1: which to your point, that's the biggest thing for me 227 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 1: with Kellen Moore, and that's what we're here to talk 228 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 1: about in the first place. Is Yeah, I agree with you, 229 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:30,559 Speaker 1: Like I think one of this team's biggest problems. You 230 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: can call it confidence, you can call it arrogance, like 231 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: Jason Garrett's whole deal is like, if we do what 232 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 1: we do to the best of our abilities, we can 233 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:38,719 Speaker 1: beat anybody. And what just wasn't true a lot of 234 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 1: the times last year. It hasn't been true from a 235 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 1: personnel standpoint exactly. Yeah, Well, but if you don't have 236 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:45,599 Speaker 1: the personnel to line up and win, you got a 237 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 1: scheme ways to do it Otherwise I thought, you know, 238 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: it drove me crazy, and I know Tavon Austin was 239 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 1: hurt for a lot of the year, but again, you 240 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 1: go back, go away. I hate to compare him to 241 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: the Rams because the Rams are the best offense in football, 242 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: but they don't do anything that that's the complex. They 243 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 1: make it look complex and then they run simple looks 244 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 1: out of complex looking schemes. I mean, you know, I've 245 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 1: said it ten million times. I'm sorry, motioning receivers, orbit 246 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: motions into the backfield, moving your running backs. I just 247 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 1: I would like to see more of that, because this 248 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: big boy attitude of our best will beat your best. 249 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: When it works, it's awesome, but it doesn't work a 250 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 1: lot of the times and it gets you beat And 251 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 1: I hope Kellen Moore can can change some of that. 252 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:31,439 Speaker 1: And you know, if you look at that, that mentality, 253 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 1: you know that the quarterback obviously matters there because when 254 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 1: you think back to twenty fourteen, you know they were 255 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 1: doing that. They were running over people with de Marco 256 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 1: Murray and Romo was the quarterback and they were rushed 257 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 1: for eighteen hundred yards and then fifteen Romo gets hurt 258 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: and Kellen Moore was one of the quarterbacks and Weedon 259 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 1: and Castle and those guys, and they were the worst 260 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: third and one team in the league because they couldn't 261 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: really knock people off the ball. So and then they 262 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 1: got back in sixteen and they were doing it again. 263 00:12:56,120 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 1: So you know, having quarterback presidents obviously helps with that 264 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 1: offensive line. And so you know that I'm not I'm 265 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 1: not saying anything that no one doesn't know. I mean, 266 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 1: Dak's got to play well for the offense to do well, 267 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 1: and he needs also not get sacked fifty six times. 268 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: You want to hear a cut from Dak Prescott today, Yeah, 269 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 1: I'd love to hear him where we got kent This 270 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 1: is on the fan Earlier, Dak Prescott asked about Kellen 271 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 1: Moore before the announcement was made. I mean, he's honestly 272 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:24,679 Speaker 1: one of these young genius phenomens in the game and 273 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:27,599 Speaker 1: just what he knows the way obviously he knows the 274 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: football that we've been playing and kind of where the 275 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 1: game's been going, the wall on the ball or whatever 276 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:33,719 Speaker 1: it is. That the style of player you want to 277 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 1: call it. But he's specially, he's specially he knows a 278 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 1: lot about the game. Just the way he sees the game. 279 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: Where he's ahead of the game. He can bring a 280 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 1: lot to us, a lot of creativity, uh, something we need. 281 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: And by the way, that's not lip service either. Dak's 282 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 1: been saying that for three years that Kellen has called 283 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 1: him a genius before. I think he really he trusts 284 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 1: him and he appreciates the help Kellen gave him as 285 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:58,839 Speaker 1: a rookie. When Kellen lost his job to injury as 286 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 1: the backup, and then ultimately Dak took over as the starter. 287 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 1: There's a trust factor there, there's no question in trying 288 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:08,680 Speaker 1: to figure out a solution once they parted ways with 289 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:11,959 Speaker 1: Scott Linahan. I'm sure Dax was asked, you know how, 290 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 1: what do you think about this? And I'm sure he's 291 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: comfortable with it, which and that goes back to my point. 292 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 1: You're right, it's not lip service. Dak loves Kellen Moore 293 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 1: and I mentioned it earlier. You can go find the 294 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 1: audio on Twitter. Travis Frederick said some really glowing stuff 295 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 1: about Kellen in a radio interview a week or so ago, 296 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 1: of really insightful stuff. But so is it lip service? No, 297 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: because I think they believe it, But like I haven't 298 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 1: seen it, you know what I mean? Sure, And that 299 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 1: doesn't mean he can't do it. It It doesn't mean he's 300 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: not a phenom. But I feel weird sitting here talking 301 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: up you know, his credentials, Like I have no idea. 302 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: We talked about that all year long. Is you know, 303 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: people were mad at Kellen because he's inexperienced, He's too 304 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 1: young to be Dak's quarterbacks coach. I'm sitting here like, 305 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 1: I don't know what do we have? We have the 306 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl, we have the Pro Bowl and like footage 307 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 1: of him sitting on the sideline with Dak, Like that's 308 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 1: really all we've got to go on. True, and that 309 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 1: is fair because Wade Wilson was the quarterbacks coach for 310 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 1: what fifteen years, and you can't really say that you 311 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 1: ever saw much there. I mean, yeah, he had guys 312 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: go to the Pro Bowl? Yeah, Romo did did well. 313 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 1: Was it because of Wade Wilson? He also had Chad 314 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 1: Hutchinson and Quincy Carter and Drew Hinson and sometimes that 315 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 1: didn't work either. So what does the court? It's hard 316 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 1: to really see what a quarterback coach is doing. Yeah, 317 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 1: until they get into him. It's more of a more 318 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 1: until they get a really good quarterback. Well, I've been 319 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: I've been going back and forth with people on people 320 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: with people on Twitter for two weeks because I think 321 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 1: it's it's it's just an interesting thought. Kellen Moore is 322 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks coach of it. He's a young, young coach 323 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 1: with a young quarterback for the Cowboys. Up and down 324 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: results a lot of people don't like him. A lot 325 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 1: of people did not want him to get this job 326 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 1: Mike Kafka as the quarterbacks coach of the Kansas City Chiefs. 327 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 1: People would be doing backflips if he had been hired 328 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: to be the offensive coordinator here because his quarterback just 329 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 1: through for fifty touchdowns and redefined what a quarterback is 330 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 1: capable of. They have the exact same resume where they 331 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 1: came out at the same time, they played the same 332 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: number of years in the NFL and accomplished the same amount. 333 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: They've been coaching in the NFL for the same amount 334 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 1: of time, and who coordinated that Kansas City offense well 335 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 1: this year was being the enemy Andy Reid too. Here's 336 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 1: the difference the head coach. Where did Kellen Moore start 337 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: his career and who'd he play for? Yeah, Scott Lindhand, 338 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 1: And that's the thing. He's tied to Scott lind Hand. 339 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: And people that don't like Scott lind Hand and what 340 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 1: he did in this offense, they think with Kellen coming in, 341 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 1: it's going to be the same thing. And I'm with 342 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 1: you guys on the fact that it's Jason Garrett's offense 343 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 1: and it's been his offense since two thousand and seven. 344 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 1: So I have a hard time believe, like Mickey calls 345 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 1: at Star Wars, you know, some of what we've seen 346 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: throughout the league college offenses, some of those concepts becoming 347 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 1: more prevalent. I don't see that. I think the core 348 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 1: of this thing is going to stay the same. But 349 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: it doesn't mean that Kellen Moore can't bring something to 350 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 1: the table. And he's a clone of Scott Linehan. Now. 351 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 1: I just hope that they realized that, you know, gone 352 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 1: of the days or not gone. But but this isn't 353 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 1: your franchise stand in the pocket Troy Aikman, Tony Romol 354 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 1: type of quarterback. This is a guy that needs to 355 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 1: be on the move a little bit. I think it's 356 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:12,360 Speaker 1: I think the stats speak for themselves. I don't mean 357 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 1: he has to run twenty five times a game, but 358 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 1: he needs to run a little bit because that is 359 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 1: what he's good at. And you have two runners that 360 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 1: can run like that. They need to I think they 361 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:22,640 Speaker 1: need to need to think about that a little bit more. 362 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:25,399 Speaker 1: And I one thing that gives me confidence is Kellen 363 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 1: Moore is not your prototypical quarterback. And I don't you know, 364 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 1: college success clearly doesn't translate to the NFL. But he 365 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 1: was very, very good in college despite being much smaller 366 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 1: than average and not a runner, but a mobile ish quarterback. 367 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 1: He could use his feet. So I'm encouraged to think 368 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 1: that he knows how to incorporate those types of things 369 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:47,920 Speaker 1: into calling an offense for Dak. I don't think he's 370 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: going to ask him to play like Troy Aikman, because 371 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 1: he wasn't that way when he was in college. Again 372 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 1: and go, you know, I've mentioned five or six things 373 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:56,959 Speaker 1: you can see on the internet. Another one, you know, 374 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: people pulled up his clip with John Gruden in the 375 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:03,159 Speaker 1: pre draft process when he came out, and you know, 376 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 1: it's it's not going to show you what he's gonna 377 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: be like as an offensive coordinator, but if you want 378 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:09,199 Speaker 1: to get a look into what he's like as a 379 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:11,640 Speaker 1: football mind, it's really interesting. You can find it on 380 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 1: YouTube ord Twitter and just him shooting the breeze with 381 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 1: John Gruden about football for three or four minutes. People 382 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 1: saw that and they kind of they didn't know about it, 383 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:20,399 Speaker 1: and they were like, oh no, maybe this guy actually 384 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 1: knows what he's gonna be not stupid. He's definitely not dumb. 385 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 1: Like he knows more about quarterback than anybody listening to 386 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:31,199 Speaker 1: this podcast. So, like I said, I just you know, 387 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 1: nobody likes it when you ride the fence. But like 388 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 1: I think this could be a really great higher I 389 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 1: don't feel confident saying it definitely will be, but I'm alright, 390 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 1: I'm alright with it. I'm interested to see how he does. 391 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 1: We you and I talked about something a minute ago 392 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 1: pre show. It's kind of interesting, Okay, It's the engine 393 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: of this thing is Ezekiel Elliott. Right. It's a run 394 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 1: first offense. It always has been, and that's not gonna change. 395 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 1: I mean, he's gonna be a significant part of this thing. 396 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 1: But the Rams are an example of a team that 397 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 1: has an elite running back that are as versatile and 398 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 1: nimble as you can ask. So there are ways to 399 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 1: still have Zeke as a primary piece of this thing 400 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 1: and maybe be a little more diverse in what you do. Yeah, 401 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:16,719 Speaker 1: Dak really killed me this morning. He went on he 402 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 1: was in he's in Atlanta, you know, radio row and 403 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 1: all that stuff, and this is what he said on 404 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:24,439 Speaker 1: the radio today. They asked him about about that, you know, 405 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 1: more pre snap motion more misdirection. Don't be so predictable, 406 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 1: he said. It's fair for fans to have those arguments. 407 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: He's like, I get that. You know the offense I 408 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 1: came from, the offense Zeke came from. We do some 409 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 1: of that the same coaches. You know. Dak was under 410 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 1: Dan Mullin, Zeke was under urban Meyer. They worked together. 411 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 1: He said, you look around and see the pieces and 412 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: the team we have. When you have a guy like 413 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 1: Zeke and you've got a running back like that, you've 414 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 1: got to give him the ball. You gotta make sure 415 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 1: you dominate time of possession and do that type of stuff. 416 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 1: It takes away sometimes from the movement and all this 417 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 1: other stuff that people are talking about, but it's about 418 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 1: being who we are, which that last sentence, like Jason 419 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 1: Garret texited to him, I'm sure. So I'm positive. I'm positive. 420 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 1: So what did they do in twenty sixteen? I think, well, 421 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:10,879 Speaker 1: and that's I think they have not have motion that 422 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:14,120 Speaker 1: they Dak run the ball more they did this past year. 423 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 1: I think. So it's interesting because I would argue that 424 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:21,640 Speaker 1: they did, like Lucky Whitehead was a fixture in that offense. 425 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 1: Just again, it sounds stupid to say, but he was 426 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 1: a constant threat moving across that formation. When he got 427 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 1: the ball, he averaged ten yards per carry. And I 428 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 1: don't have the stats in front of me, but I 429 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 1: would venture a guest that he did that a dozen 430 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 1: or so times per game. So who was Lucky Whitehead 431 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 1: this year? Nobody? Nobody? Yeah, Jordan lew because it was personnel. Right, 432 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 1: you didn't have that guy. Once you lose Tavon Austin, 433 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 1: you can't do that so easily. He's not going to 434 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:52,400 Speaker 1: cause anybody a problems running the football at his size, right, 435 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:55,160 Speaker 1: Lucky Whitehead was a little bit different. I can't literally 436 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:59,160 Speaker 1: anyone else do it well? Whom? So just have something 437 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 1: you want? Noah running thou Do you remember the guy? 438 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 1: Do you remember who kept doing it over and over 439 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 1: for the Rams? Remember that guy? What's his name? Yeah? Exactly, 440 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 1: I don't remember, but I just know it was somebody. 441 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,120 Speaker 1: I think Cooks was the one that wound up, which 442 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks like Reynolds to everything very fast. But and 443 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,640 Speaker 1: Reynolds got some deep speed by the way, No he does. 444 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 1: You're not wrong if you're on that. They had that 445 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 1: guy and they tried it, so it didn't work. Very well. Well, 446 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, they tried with Jordan Lewis. I mean, 447 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 1: why did they beat the Cowboys. Let's face it, the 448 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 1: seventy three yards. This isn't about the Rams game. No, 449 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 1: I know, I'm not saying, but that's why they didn't 450 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: go to the next round. Oh sure, because if they 451 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 1: had won that game, then everybody would have been real happy. 452 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 1: They Oh yeah, they're in the NFC title game, right, 453 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: But they also they also ran for two seventy three 454 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 1: because they got the opportunity to run that much because 455 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 1: the offense wasn't doing well. I mean, the offense did 456 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 1: not help him in that game. And I think everyone 457 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 1: knows the offensive. If the defense plays exactly like it 458 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 1: plays next year, and if the offense improves, this will 459 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 1: be a better team. Doesn't mean they'll have a better record, 460 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:08,879 Speaker 1: because they sound like they have a tougher schedule paper 461 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 1: for sure, Yeah, I will see it's it looks it 462 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 1: looks terrifying right now. There were four games that went 463 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:16,439 Speaker 1: down to a field goal they made, they won two, 464 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,120 Speaker 1: they lost two. I mean, if you if you win 465 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 1: three out of four and then you know you're sitting 466 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 1: at a completely different record and weren't they like eight 467 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 1: and two in games decided by a touchdown or less something? Yeah, 468 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:27,880 Speaker 1: I mean it was. It was ridiculous they did. Yeah. Yeah, 469 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,640 Speaker 1: but that whole streak down the stretch, it was all 470 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: one possession games. I only wiped out one team, right, right, 471 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:38,400 Speaker 1: And they only got wiped out really once in Napolis, 472 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 1: right oh yeah, although Tennessee wasn't close. It was touchdowns. 473 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 1: I know, I just disagreed with you, Mick, but like 474 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 1: in overall, I tend to lean your way because that's 475 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 1: you know, and I think a change was needed. We 476 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 1: talked about that the offense was trending down the last 477 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:57,639 Speaker 1: two years. Twenty sixteen with a lot of the same guys, 478 00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:59,640 Speaker 1: they were top five with Scotland a hand in charge 479 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 1: of the sting, and I don't and I think, honestly, 480 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 1: the big difference was they had the personnel to bully 481 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 1: people the way they went. They had a dominant offensive 482 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,119 Speaker 1: line was much better. That's probably the best way they 483 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 1: got to line this decade much better. Fourteen. Could make 484 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: an argument there maybe last two years, but um, they 485 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 1: had much better personnel. The offensive line was much better. 486 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 1: The receivers played a lot better. But I don't think 487 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 1: they're that far away from being able to do those 488 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 1: types of things. We'll see, and I mean Kellen Moore 489 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 1: is going to play a huge part in that, but 490 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 1: well he better get Travis Frederick healthy and ready to go. 491 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 1: So nice. Just to clarify, you're kind of hinting at it. 492 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 1: I mean, you feel like this is more about personnel 493 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 1: for this team going forward next season to improve more 494 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 1: so than trying to change things. Well, what was the 495 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 1: what was the difference between three and five and seven 496 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: and one? Amari Cooper? Thank you? That's the only reason 497 00:23:55,640 --> 00:24:00,879 Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator didn't change? Did he raine? Four? Well? Offense? 498 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,199 Speaker 1: But it was three and five at the halfway? I know, 499 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,439 Speaker 1: but Cooper lost. Yeah, well, okay, I know, I'm just 500 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 1: saying he and he. I can't fault them for going 501 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 1: seven and one, but they still were only scoring twenty 502 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 1: one points per game in that time period, Like, they 503 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 1: went from twenty pre Cooper seven games to about twenty 504 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:21,119 Speaker 1: two in the last eleven games counting playoffs with Cooper 505 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 1: and he had a goose egg in Indianapolis. Still bad, 506 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 1: but that But one of the answers to that question 507 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 1: is also on defense too, because they're their best defensive 508 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:35,400 Speaker 1: player started to play. I mean he got to really emerge. 509 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 1: I mean I think when I think vander Esh thing 510 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 1: really took off. Him and Jalen both just played together. 511 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 1: And I thought that the defense was better in that 512 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 1: stretch too. Amari for sure can't forget that part. But 513 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 1: I thought the defense was better in that stretch and 514 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 1: Vanderesh was taking it to another level. It kind of 515 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:53,880 Speaker 1: it kind of goes back to that point, is like 516 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 1: people want new, people want different. Jason Garrett's not gonna 517 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 1: do that anyway. But like, don't I don't think you 518 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 1: need it. I don't. I don't think you need to 519 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 1: do a ton to make this thing a lot better. 520 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,679 Speaker 1: You need you need some new ideas. I think you 521 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 1: need to be a little bit less predictable. You could 522 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 1: stand to upgrade your personnel in a couple of spots. 523 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 1: But like I just I don't think I buy that 524 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 1: you need this drastic overhaul to make this offense more functional. 525 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 1: So and that was Frederick at center. That would be nice. 526 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 1: You need. You need Zach Martin playing on two good knees, 527 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 1: not one, Although I will say like that is part 528 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 1: of every single football season in the world. I understand like, 529 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 1: and then every team in the league game sitting here 530 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 1: left guard. Uh, you got your Pro Bowl left tackle 531 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 1: playing with a knee brace on his elbow. I mean 532 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:45,639 Speaker 1: that offensive line wasn't what everybody's used to seeing it, 533 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 1: and it showed which it brought back diminishing returns. To 534 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 1: get another running back in here, you can't get another 535 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,239 Speaker 1: running back in here. Real with the second round. You 536 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:57,679 Speaker 1: can't sit here in February. You can't sit here in 537 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 1: February and say like, well they just be better though, 538 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,880 Speaker 1: because I mean I've I have resigned myself. I love 539 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:05,879 Speaker 1: Tyrant Smith to death. He's going to be dealing with 540 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 1: these problems for the rest of his career more likely 541 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:12,360 Speaker 1: than not. Uh, Travis Frederick, all thing it sounds really positive. 542 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,640 Speaker 1: Can't bank on that until I see it. Um can 543 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 1: get you a better backup offensive tackle, maybe, but you 544 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 1: did it at at linebacker, right. My point, backed up 545 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 1: your your ace card attonbacker, So back up your ace 546 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 1: card on the offensive line. You're never is the backup. Well, 547 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,639 Speaker 1: maybe you're never. You're never going to be perfectly healthy, 548 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 1: and in those situations you need scheme to overcome those things. 549 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,160 Speaker 1: And that's what I mean that is why this is important. 550 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 1: You know, it doesn't need to be a drastic departure, 551 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 1: but if you're not equipped to line up and say 552 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 1: our eleven are better than you're eleven, then there's got 553 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:47,639 Speaker 1: to be some other way you can overcome that. The 554 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 1: Pats are probably the best example of any team in 555 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:52,120 Speaker 1: the league. No do that, the Pats. I'm talking about. 556 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 1: The Pats are in the super Bowl with like a 557 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 1: bunch of scraps at offensive line. It's unbelievable, and Brady 558 00:26:58,080 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 1: was not. I mean, Mickey talked about it on our show. 559 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 1: Was a picture of him holding up his jersey after 560 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 1: the game with I mean, just the Patties can be. 561 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 1: The Pats spent a first round ross st Pat's been 562 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:09,920 Speaker 1: a first round pick on a guard who didn't play 563 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 1: a snap this season, and they didn't stop them. They're 564 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 1: the outlier, no question about it, I know. But the 565 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 1: Cowboys trying to take steps to improve things in house. 566 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 1: Kellen Moore the new OC and they get to play 567 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:24,879 Speaker 1: in the AOC East. John Kitten the new quarterbacks coach, 568 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,919 Speaker 1: and address that because he's here. He really it's my 569 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,360 Speaker 1: argument what I bring it up. What's that what's that 570 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 1: that they got to play in the Oh no I talk? 571 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:38,119 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Kitten, I'm low key really excited about that. Higher. 572 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:39,920 Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's a really good movie. 573 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: This it's the guy we've been saying we would like 574 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,959 Speaker 1: to see working with. Like I wasn't thinking about Kittna. 575 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 1: I was thinking, you know, back when um Luke McCown 576 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 1: had a cup of coffee here, I wanted him to 577 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,200 Speaker 1: be on the team just because I was like, can 578 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,439 Speaker 1: we get a guy who's been through the NFL to 579 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,880 Speaker 1: work with Dak for a little while? Know, so what 580 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 1: else could you possibly want? Then? A guy who's played 581 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 1: fourteen NFL seasons, He's had two four thousand yard seasons, 582 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 1: he's played in NFL Europe. He's coached at the high 583 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 1: school level. So I'm confident he has seen, you know, 584 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 1: some of the newer things that they're doing at those 585 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,360 Speaker 1: levels of football over the last and he's been doing 586 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 1: that for six years. So it just happens a great 587 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,120 Speaker 1: high and just haven't been around him for a couple 588 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 1: of years here. He's a good communicator. Guys listen to him, 589 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 1: Guys follow him. He's got kind of an IT factory 590 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,959 Speaker 1: I think I think he's got communication skills along with 591 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 1: his knowledge that will translate well to a coaching role. 592 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:30,360 Speaker 1: And he's been you know, he's been in a high 593 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 1: school role for a few years now, Yeah, which may 594 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,159 Speaker 1: be the hardest coaching job. So there. Yeah, well and 595 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 1: the Sun has been a quarterback too, so he's been 596 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 1: coaching at home, I you know, for a while too. 597 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 1: But you know, backup quarterbacks are always coaches. You know, 598 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 1: when the guy comes off on the field, that what 599 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 1: you see. While I saw this too, and Garrett did 600 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 1: it for years with Troy. I mean, you know, it 601 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 1: doesn't mean you're better than the guy at all. It 602 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 1: just means that you're giving him a different set of eyes. 603 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 1: And so Kittnah, you know, he's always been able to 604 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 1: kind of get it and understand his role. And you know, 605 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 1: cart he took over for Carson Palmer was drafted, he 606 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 1: was the starter and then he hey, he understood the deal. 607 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 1: He just kind of gets it. I think I think 608 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 1: it's an outstanding addition to this staff. I really do. Yeah. 609 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 1: I wonder if that was a tough sell or if 610 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 1: that was, hey, we got this job for you. I mean, 611 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 1: I'm sure sound like it. I think he was on 612 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 1: a trip to the Pro Bowl, like real quick, like, 613 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 1: oh hey, that was the easy sell. He might to 614 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 1: come down to the Pro Bowl. He was going to 615 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 1: be the OC for the San Diego Fleet. Now he's 616 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 1: the you know, that's a good well I was gonna 617 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 1: I'm sure high school football coaching sounds incredibly really good. Yeah, 618 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 1: I mean, you know if they do. I mean, well, 619 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 1: his last job was at a preparatory school. I think 620 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 1: it was last year in Yeah, he was hired to 621 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 1: be hadn't actually so just such a small world. Uh 622 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 1: you know who plays for the San Diego Fleet? Do 623 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 1: they play? Gavin Escobar? Way? Like literally two weeks ago, 624 00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 1: somebody asked Escobar about Kitten ap because he's gonna be 625 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 1: there OC, and Gavin was like, well, yeah, but I 626 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 1: mean he just he just agreed to be the Cowboys 627 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 1: quarterbacks coach. This was like three weeks ago. So, I mean, 628 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 1: you know, like we said at the top of the show, 629 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 1: this has been a long time coming. Hey we stir 630 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 1: the pot and big what if he took Gavin to 631 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 1: come in here and help out it? Tight end joking, 632 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 1: that's sorry, And that's where we had. Good job, Nick 633 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 1: they opened February ninth. By the way, yes, that new league. 634 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 1: I think it's important to mention Gavin Escapar when we say, 635 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 1: you know what I would drafts tight end in the 636 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 1: second rounds, right, fix this problem. I'm not gonna bring 637 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 1: the draft show onto this. But like I'm out, I'm 638 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 1: out on tight end. Well, I'm just I just was 639 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 1: saying it's a deep position this year. It's deep, so 640 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 1: you can quite one in the fourth round. But we 641 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 1: had a mail back question today Blake Jarwin. They're gonna 642 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 1: be better than Blake Jarwin with another year of development. No, 643 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 1: maybe not very very well. May not be very few 644 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 1: tight ends who aren't drafted in the top fifteen do 645 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 1: much of anything while they're rookies. Yeah, very few. So 646 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 1: give me pick fifty eight if anybody cared, what I 647 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 1: think should be a receiver that can play inside and out. 648 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 1: If you said you didn't go, if you said you 649 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 1: didn't go to the super Bowl because you didn't have 650 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 1: a good tight end, you had other problems. Okay, Yeah, 651 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 1: that's not why they didn't go super Bowl. That might 652 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 1: be why the red zone isn't as good though, could 653 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 1: certainly help. Actually it's been not the red zone, the 654 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 1: inside the ten yard line zone. That's where they face. 655 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 1: They were dead last and goal to go. We should 656 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 1: call that something like maroon zone. I mean, it's really read. 657 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 1: Last year was the dead zone. How can you be 658 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 1: How can you be dead last and goal to go 659 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 1: and have the NFL rushing champion on your team because 660 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 1: your offensive line couldn't run over Yeah, they don't give 661 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 1: it to him as much. I don't even buy that, 662 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 1: Like they didn't trust the offensive line when they got 663 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 1: down there. I've never seen Zeke get tackled backwards in 664 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 1: his life. Well, how about fourth and one and a 665 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 1: half at the thirty five. Well, something changed because in 666 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 1: sixteen and seventeen they were among the best in the 667 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 1: league at it. And yeah, I mean I think that's 668 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 1: a factor as well as Joe Looney. Joe, but yeah, 669 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 1: Frederick if he was when we would have like a 670 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 1: center competition every year, like who's gonna start this year? 671 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 1: I mean just go look at fourth and one and 672 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 1: a half at the thirty five and to see who 673 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 1: got blown up to him. Yes, Joe, Joe Looney did 674 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 1: an amazing job. He did, but not the best center 675 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 1: in football. There's a reason why he was a backup 676 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 1: and to next point, then you try to do some 677 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 1: things differently and sometimes execution was just a factor. Cole 678 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 1: Beasley drops a touchdown, Noel Brown Dak misconnect on a touchdown. 679 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 1: Cowboys an't the only team to get, you know, cue down. 680 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 1: Two of those guys, like the guys who just all right, 681 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 1: you just got about that one too, the most obscure 682 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 1: player on the team. No one talked to him. I 683 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 1: don't know if he talked to anybody in the media. 684 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 1: Y'all just name interviewed. Y'all just named three players who 685 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:58,719 Speaker 1: aren't coming off a Pro Bowl trip. I know Elliott Is. 686 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 1: I know he never got looked at down there, and 687 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 1: I'll just go to my grave not really knowing why 688 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 1: can't just show to play where he did get looked 689 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 1: at and he got stuffed. It was after the Ola 690 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 1: Wally drop, wasn't it. Now? That was the Rams game. Lord, Well, 691 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 1: maybe Kellen Moore can fix all that, and maybe John 692 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 1: Kidney can help you all that as the new quarterbacks coach, 693 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 1: Kellen Moore new oc checkout Dallas Cowboys dot com for 694 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 1: them softly there it is almost went with that for 695 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 1: the headline on the site, but it didn't make sense. 696 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 1: Maybe we'll change it up next time. Thanks guys for 697 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:32,240 Speaker 1: joining us. Thanks everybody on the producing stay throughout the offseason. 698 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 1: Speaking of producing, this has been a production of Dallas 699 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 1: Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.