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Speaker 1: I am excited for the show. I've been looking forward

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Speaker 2: Sure, all right, Well, before we go any further, it's

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Speaker 2: not really breaking, but it's sort of already broke. Uh.

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Speaker 2: The Gator Bowl. Yeah, the Gator Bowl. In case you've

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Speaker 2: been living under a rock, we sort of got another outbreak,

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Speaker 2: game is searching for a replacement team. We're recording this

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Speaker 2: what the new matchup's going to be. But an odd circumstance. Again,

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Speaker 1: Somebody asked us a question like, where would Georgia having

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Speaker 2: the Show Brenning Game, the Colt Brenning Game. May he

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So yeah, there's a lot there with Georgia and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, crazy stuff. So we'll hope against hope that that

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Speaker 2: Bill Hancock got you covered.

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Speaker 2: the playoffs. So we're going to talk about all four

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Speaker 2: but we're also going to talk about the rest of

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Speaker 2: the New Year six games. Dan, let's just jump right in.

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Speaker 2: Let's do it. That sound drop may be a bit misleading.

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Speaker 2: We already gave our picks for these games, but.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean, I'm willing to open up our

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Speaker 1: to to shifting our perspective, especially because we gave our

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Speaker 2: That's correct, Yeah, that's correct. And plus there are new

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Speaker 2: the Peach Bowl. They play this one on Thursday, December

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Speaker 2: the thirtieth, seven pm on ESPN. It is Pitt, it

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Speaker 2: I think there has to be serious injury concern here.

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Speaker 2: That's the only reason you wouldn't play against Michigan State,

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Speaker 1: Is this the biggest pit Bowl game since two thousand?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sticking Pit. I'm sticking with Pitt because I'd

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Speaker 2: I just think losing Kenny Pickett kind of cuts their

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean they're scoring points, so like they're

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Speaker 2: But without Kenny Pickett, I think is I think is

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Speaker 2: But honestly, no confidence whatsoever here. No confidence right here.

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Speaker 2: Penn State are picking against Pitt.

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Speaker 1: Cliche. I'm sticking h twop. And by the way, Pit

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Speaker 2: Let's go ahead and jump ahead to twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 2: This one is at one o'clock Eastern on ESPN in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty two, Happy New Year, the Fiesta Bowl between

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Speaker 2: Oklahoma State and Notre Dame. Notre Dame favored by two.

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Speaker 2: This is a very interesting match on so many different levels.

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Speaker 2: I am thrilled that Notre Dame got in this game

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Speaker 2: So I don't those are meaningful and those are names,

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Speaker 1: How crucial is the Kirad Williams because I always see

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Speaker 2: I am, I am. I mean, the schedule got easier

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Speaker 1: In this game because essentially the turnovers really held them

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Speaker 2: Austin look has had a hard time getting on the field.

436
00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:00,119
Speaker 2: He's had a good run of games now where it

437
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:03,760
Speaker 2: definitely seems he's gotten more of the trust of his

438
00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,800
Speaker 2: quarterback and the offense as a whole. And so he's

439
00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:10,960
Speaker 2: a big play caliber, physical type of wide out and

440
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Speaker 2: if they can get him more involved that they would

441
00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,879
Speaker 2: be better for it. Outside of him, though, you know

442
00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,480
Speaker 2: where you're looking for plays. Chris Tyree is a guy

443
00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:20,800
Speaker 2: who's really good. If you get him in space, he's shifty,

444
00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:22,520
Speaker 2: you can put him in the slot, you can do

445
00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:26,320
Speaker 2: stuff with him. You know, we haven't seen a whole

446
00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:28,200
Speaker 2: lot of that this year. I think that was the plan,

447
00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,359
Speaker 2: but it just sort of didn't work out that way.

448
00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,400
Speaker 2: Logan digs the young running back. I think we'll see

449
00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:35,760
Speaker 2: him trying to go a little bit more north than south.

450
00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,760
Speaker 2: He got some action down the stretch as well. So

451
00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:40,879
Speaker 2: they have guys that they can mix in to do

452
00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,680
Speaker 2: a lot of the same stuff as Kira Williams. But

453
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Speaker 2: I don't know if they've got one guy they can

454
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Speaker 2: go to that will do it all and out wide

455
00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:51,480
Speaker 2: outside of Marin Austin. It will be a factor of Okay,

456
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Speaker 2: who else can we get involved to confuse this defense

457
00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,520
Speaker 2: because it is a very good defense. Yeah, this might

458
00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,239
Speaker 2: be the best defense they've played all year. So at

459
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Speaker 2: least from that point, I'm curious to see what Notre Dame,

460
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,680
Speaker 2: what Marcus Freeman, what Tommy Reeves have up their sleeves,

461
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,240
Speaker 2: because this could be a situation where they want to

462
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 2: pull out all the stops. They want to empty the playbook,

463
00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 2: maybe not fully empty it. Knowing that they've got Jim

464
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,320
Speaker 2: Knowles on deck again week one to twenty twenty two,

465
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,800
Speaker 2: but they will be turnover before that game. It will

466
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,879
Speaker 2: be different it will not be exactly the same, So

467
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Speaker 2: I think for me, and I could be biased for me,

468
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Speaker 2: I like Notre Dame across the board a little better

469
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Speaker 2: than I like Oklahoma State. I don't trust the Oklahoma

470
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:36,400
Speaker 2: State offense at all IRUs Spencer Sanders and the Notre

471
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Speaker 2: Dame defense, even if they're going to be theal Kyle

472
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,160
Speaker 2: Hamilton again, they've been without him most of the year.

473
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Speaker 2: I feel like the Notre Dame defense is sort of

474
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Speaker 2: underrated in this matchup.

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Speaker 1: I didn't realize Fosky has mounted up the season that

476
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Speaker 1: he did. I remember watching him pop a little bit, right,

477
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:55,359
Speaker 1: It's Isaiah Foski, right, yep, Like he's a playmaker on

478
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Speaker 1: this defense.

479
00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,800
Speaker 2: Very good, very good. So this is a defense that

480
00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,880
Speaker 2: for sure hasn't had a whole lot of national names

481
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 2: other than Kyle Hamilton, yeah, other than the Hamilton. But

482
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 2: they played really well as a team. They've definitely found

483
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Speaker 2: a way to pull it together after a rocky start

484
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:14,359
Speaker 2: from Marcus Freeman, you know, he came on and it

485
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 2: was like, what are we doing here? Right? Why have

486
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 2: we bring this guy over again?

487
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 1: Yeah?

488
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,679
Speaker 2: It came together really well, and this defense in the end,

489
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 2: I think certainly finished really strong, ended up finishing out

490
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,679
Speaker 2: as like a top fifteen, top twenty defense nationally, so

491
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 2: it's also very good, and I think that will be

492
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:33,680
Speaker 2: the difference in this game. That's why I favorite Notre Dame.

493
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 1: I'm buying low in Oklahoma State. I'm buying low to

494
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:42,240
Speaker 1: almost win a conference championship game. Throwing four interceptions to

495
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:46,920
Speaker 1: come within mir Inch's means that the numbers once again

496
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,240
Speaker 1: say that Spencer Sanders is not going to throw four

497
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 1: interceptions in consecutive weeks or consecutive games. So I'm going

498
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 1: again with the defense. In the pass rush in this spot,

499
00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 1: Jalen Warren was practicing, so that offers them, hopefully some

500
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,640
Speaker 1: sort of balance on this offense that Spencer Sanders doesn't

501
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:04,679
Speaker 1: feel like he has to play hero ball and do

502
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 1: everything himself. So I'm going Oklahoma State the poke defense,

503
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 1: maybe getting a kick return deep into Notre Dame territory

504
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 1: or extra points that way with Brentan Presley, as we've

505
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 1: seen that they are a good return team. I'm going

506
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,879
Speaker 1: Pokes here, not for anything other than the fact that

507
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 1: I think the strongest thing in this game is their defense,

508
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:28,960
Speaker 1: and I think they will play more mistake free football

509
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,160
Speaker 1: on offense. So I'm going, yeah, I'm going to Oklahoma

510
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,119
Speaker 1: State here and don't feel great about it. But what

511
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 1: was the last line you saw in this game? Like

512
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 1: two points?

513
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Speaker 2: Yeah?

514
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,200
Speaker 1: Yeah? I think Oklahoma State wins this game out right,

515
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 1: and you know, puts a cap on a really impressive year.

516
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 1: Other than a couple of spots, I.

517
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Speaker 2: Think a key for Oklahoma State, just to close the

518
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 2: loop here is Spencer Sanders with his legs. Spencer Sanders

519
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:56,680
Speaker 2: with his legs. The guy ran for over six hundred

520
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 2: yards this season. It's not necessarily what he's looking to

521
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,199
Speaker 2: do first, but it is part of his game, and

522
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,359
Speaker 2: when he incorporates it and is able to do so

523
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 2: efficiently and responsibly without shooting Oklahoma State in the foot,

524
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 2: he can be really dangerous.

525
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Speaker 1: How are Notre Dames linebackers? How are how are the

526
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 1: Irish linebackers?

527
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:16,119
Speaker 2: Like?

528
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 1: Do they have like a Drew Trenquil Jalen Smith, like

529
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 1: really fast, sure tackler type.

530
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,679
Speaker 2: They have guys who have had a good year To

531
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Speaker 2: say that they've got anybody who rises to that level,

532
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 2: I don't think so. But JD. Bertrand's had a really

533
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 2: good year for him. Drew White had a really good

534
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 2: year for them, Like they have Jack Kaiser, right, they

535
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 2: have guys who have had really solid years. But in

536
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 2: terms of that true playmaker from the linebacker position, you know,

537
00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 2: Jad Bertrand's had a ton of tackles. I don't know

538
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:47,440
Speaker 2: if he's quite that athletic.

539
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 1: Okay, I mean, I'm not Spencer Sanders is not Lamar

540
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 1: Jackson with the ball. But yeah, I hear you, Okay.

541
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Speaker 2: I favorite Notre Dame. I favorite Notre Dame.

542
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Speaker 1: Here yep, pokes, Let's go to.

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Speaker 2: Five pm ESPN the Rose Bowl, Dan Granddaddy. Yes, Utah

544
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,440
Speaker 2: Ohio State, Ohio State favored by six and a half again,

545
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 2: five pm Eastern time. Talk me through Utah. Utah killed

546
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:19,920
Speaker 2: your Oregon Ducks twice.

547
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:21,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, a team who beat Ohio State.

548
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,680
Speaker 2: Both teams about five hundred against the spread. So no

549
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 2: real leans there, one way or the other. How do

550
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 2: you feel about Utah going into this game?

551
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 1: Really good? The clear motivated team between these two, right

552
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 1: that Utah is uscending. Utah finally broke through and won

553
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,479
Speaker 1: the Pac twelve. They were in that spot in twenty nineteen,

554
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,160
Speaker 1: a game away from a major bowl game and lose

555
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 1: to Oregon. I think it was in the Bay Area

556
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 1: that was at Santa Clara and lost decisively, and to

557
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 1: beat Oregon twice the way that they did, to have

558
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,160
Speaker 1: the emotional release and still the emotions with them after

559
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 1: an extremely trying year emotionally, physically whatever, from the loss

560
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 1: of Aaron Low and Tai Jordan, and to get to

561
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 1: this point for Kyle Whittingham to break through, you know,

562
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 1: the transfer cam rising with you know, the combination of

563
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:08,639
Speaker 1: the defensive player of the year in the Pac twelve,

564
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 1: Devin Lloyd. Who is that guy? That's that was your

565
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,159
Speaker 1: question about Notre Dame. Do they have that linebacker? Utah

566
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,200
Speaker 1: has that linebacker, sure, Devin Lloyd and then Mike Tafua

567
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 1: up front, another All Conference, if not All American caliber

568
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,640
Speaker 1: defensive linemen. They're young elsewhere on the defense, but they're talented.

569
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 1: They make plays better against the pass than they are

570
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:26,639
Speaker 1: against the run. They get do get pushed around a

571
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:30,119
Speaker 1: little bit the youth upfront, but didn't happen against Oregon.

572
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 1: And it does seem that Utah is one of those

573
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 1: teams that is built to beat a defense like Ohio

574
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 1: States and the way that Michigan and Oregon both pushed

575
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 1: Ohio State around upfront. That's Utah's m O. Tavian Thomas

576
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 1: is an underrated running back I think nationally, if he's

577
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 1: at full health, which he got beat up near the

578
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 1: end of the year, If he's at full health, Cam

579
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 1: Rising doesn't make a ton of mistakes, is athletic enough

580
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 1: to extend plays and you know, pick up a third

581
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 1: and six with his feet or something like that. I

582
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 1: like Utah. I think if you were going to build

583
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 1: a team to beat Ohio State, they limit the big plays.

584
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 1: From a defensive perspective. We still don't know the status

585
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 1: of Chris o'lave and Garrett Wilson at the time of recording,

586
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 1: So with that hanging over things. With the way Ohio

587
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 1: State loss to Michigan, it didn't even get to play

588
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 1: in the Big Ten championship game. It's weird to say

589
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 1: that the Rose Bowls a consolation, which I never think

590
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 1: it fully is for a Pac twelve or Big Ten team.

591
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 1: But all things considered, if you're mister motivation, Utah has

592
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 1: that in droves here. Utah to put a cap on

593
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 1: their year with a win over Ohio State would be everything.

594
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 1: So now, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, Okay,

595
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 1: when we did our Bowl Confidence preview, you were on

596
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 1: Ohio State here. Well, I'm just talking about the case

597
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 1: for Utah right now. Yeah, Okay, we can go into

598
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 1: Ohio State.

599
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 2: So is that to say then that you like Utah

600
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 2: but still not enough to pick them to win outright

601
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 2: because I picked Utah outright here? Yeah, I know, I

602
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 2: agree with pretty much all that sentiment. Utah can play bullyball.

603
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 2: They can play bullyball, and that was how Michigan beat

604
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 2: Ohio State. We know Ohio State is a bit susceptible

605
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 2: to that, and I don't know if Utah necessarily has

606
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 2: the weapons that Michigan has elsewhere on offense. But at

607
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 2: the same time, it's a similar enough brand of football

608
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 2: that if they play it well, if they stay motivated,

609
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,479
Speaker 2: if they don't do anything stupid, I think they will

610
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 2: absolutely keep this close and give themselves a shot to win.

611
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 2: So you know where I stand on ball games, I'm

612
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 2: all about the motivation hasn't necessarily fared the best for

613
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 2: me by the way of my own well confidence pool

614
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 2: at this point, to be fair, sure, But that motivation

615
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 2: factor for Utah, it's the first time they're playing in

616
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,719
Speaker 2: the Rose Bowl, ever, we know what kind of a

617
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 2: season and a half it's been for Utah. Some of

618
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 2: the adversity they've had to go through to kind of

619
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 2: rally the troops and get to this game is in

620
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 2: and of itself a huge accomplishment for Kyle Whittingham. So

621
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 2: I'm on Utah plus the point here. I hope it

622
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 2: gets a little higher than six and a half at

623
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 2: game time. I could see that happening because Ohio State's

624
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 2: a team at the public likes to bet up. So

625
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 2: if this gets to like seven, seven and a half,

626
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 2: I'm jumping on Utah. But for as long as it

627
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 2: stays below seven, I will probably just hang tight. I

628
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,719
Speaker 2: do like Utah, though, I'm just not super confident in it.

629
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Utah wins this game by five or

630
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 1: loses it by twenty seven. Like, I don't know how

631
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 1: much in between there is, Right, if Ohio State has

632
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 1: their receivers, if CJ. Stroud is really operating, you know,

633
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 1: has all this time off Utah, or excuse me, Ohio

634
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 1: State has the time to game plan for Utah. You

635
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 1: know that there certainly has not been a Pac twelve

636
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 1: offense with the kind of pouerpower firepower anywhere near with

637
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 1: what Ohio State's dealing with. So maybe Utah one the

638
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 1: worst pack twelve of the modern era, which I think

639
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 1: is a reasonable argument to make when you look up

640
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 1: and down the conference, when you look at USC and

641
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 1: Washington and Oregon's faults and Stanford and all the Arizona schools, Like,

642
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 1: maybe that's the case, And I think there's a possibility.

643
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 1: I'm going to stick with Ohio State here just because

644
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 1: I trust they're sealing a little bit more. But I

645
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,719
Speaker 1: am going against this is like a you and I.

646
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 1: It's like a handshake of your motivation principles and my

647
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 1: defense principles. Right, you know what, screw it, I'm going

648
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 1: belief system. I'm going uts. You know what. I'm just

649
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 1: I'm not shying away from what got me to the

650
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Speaker 1: mount Olympus of college football. Podcasting with you, Kaine Sar,

651
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Speaker 1: I'm going with Utah here, go uts.

652
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 2: I just think the motivation for them is going to

653
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 2: be so great. And again, you were right to mention

654
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 2: the Garrett Wilson Chris Olave question.

655
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm.

656
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 2: I would be surprised if they played in this game.

657
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 2: Both those guys are potential first round wideouts.

658
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 1: But with that understanding, with that understanding, it makes Utah

659
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 1: an easier pick, for sure. It makes me still as dudes.

660
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 2: It makes it an easier pick, But I don't know

661
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 2: if it's that much easier because they still have Jackson,

662
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 2: Smith and Ja but they still have other guys that

663
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 2: they can play Julian like, they got dudes that they

664
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 2: can plug in to play wide at at Ohio State.

665
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 2: So I'm not too worried if those guys decide they're

666
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 2: gonna opt out. I do think though, that Utah is

667
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 2: a more motivated team. They have to be. Yeah, and

668
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 2: you know that's how I pick them.

669
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 1: In Bulsara, there is a universe in which Trevian Henderson,

670
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 1: which Trey Henderson runs for one hundred and ninety seven yards.

671
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 1: Oh my right, oh my god, there is that universe.

672
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 1: You're like, oh, man, I guess it didn't matter that

673
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 1: Chris Alty declare, Well, they're just a persistent home run threat, right.

674
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 1: It's the number one most explosive rushing attack in America

675
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 1: all the time. J Stroud and the receivers get the attention.

676
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 1: But yeah, and it's it's hot and cold. You know,

677
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 1: it's mostly hot for Ohio State mm hmm. But there

678
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 1: have been some of those cold.

679
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 2: Spells where you have to wonder, like, okay, and what's

680
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 2: going on here? And up against a good defense and

681
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 2: a team that can play that really physical brand of

682
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 2: football and control possession and do the things that Utah

683
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 2: does from time to time. Like it's not the most

684
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 2: like outrage just think in the world that you to

685
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 2: would win this game.

686
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 1: No, not at all. I mean you can look at

687
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: last year and you say, Okay, different quarterback, different stage,

688
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 1: and it's certainly the motivation to beat Clemson is different

689
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 1: than the motivation to beat Utah from a national brand perspective.

690
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 1: But Ryan Day, with time and an explosive offense, would

691
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:16,280
Speaker 1: they drop almost fifty on Clemson?

692
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:16,839
Speaker 2: Hm.

693
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,879
Speaker 1: So it's one of those situations where like I guess,

694
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,839
Speaker 1: dowt Ohio State with time at your own peril, dowt

695
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 1: Ohio State with time at your own peril on a

696
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:29,800
Speaker 1: big stage with a powerful, explosive offense. It's rough. I

697
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 1: don't love it, but I'm going believe system.

698
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 2: All right. Our final New Year's six non playoff game

699
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 2: eight to forty five standard issue time for the Sugar

700
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:46,320
Speaker 2: Bowl on ESPN. It is Baylor Bears. It is Ole Miss,

701
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 2: Ole Miss is favored by like a point something like that.

702
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 2: Let's just call it pick them. Does it really matter?

703
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 2: This is a hell of a game. I am thrilled at.

704
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 2: This game is gonna happen. Baylor won the Big Twelve Championship,

705
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 2: lost to Oklahoma State and TCU, but have been very

706
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 2: good against the point spread. Baylor, again, they're over undercoming

707
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 2: into the season was five and a half. Typically, when

708
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 2: you've got a team where folks are like betting on

709
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 2: five wins, if they do much better, they're gonna be

710
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,360
Speaker 2: good against the point spread because nobody saw it coming.

711
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 1: Correct and Vegas is always late to adjust.

712
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 2: Baylor is one of those teams. I want a ton

713
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 2: of money on Baylor this year. I feel terrific about it. All.

714
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 2: Miss also very good against the point spread, seven to

715
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 2: four and one at that one push, but ten and

716
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 2: two overall lost to Bama and Auburn. Not bad losses

717
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 2: by any stretch. They had the weird Tennessee game, which

718
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 2: they won by what one possession? Right? Yeah?

719
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 1: That was the only one of their of their wins,

720
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 1: I think that was their only single digit win. If

721
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,839
Speaker 1: you look at their schedule. I believe so they were.

722
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 1: I think we all figured all Miss would improve and

723
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 1: Baylor would improve. But we figured all Miss would improve,

724
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,399
Speaker 1: but to win the way that they did as decisively

725
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,879
Speaker 1: with the defense to improve as dramatically over the course

726
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 1: of the season. I certainly underestimated Ole Miss for a

727
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 1: good chunk of this season. And I think one of

728
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 1: the stats in this game this matchup specifically, and I

729
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,320
Speaker 1: love when this happens. I love when one team is

730
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty eighth in the country as something

731
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 1: the other team is second. On the other side of

732
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 1: the ball, Ole Miss has the number one blitz sack

733
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 1: rate metric in the country. They get home to the

734
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 1: quarterback when blitzing more efficiently than any other team, and

735
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 1: Baylor on offense is atrocious in sacks allowed when blitzed.

736
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 1: I don't know if that affects things. I don't know

737
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 1: if that forces a scoop and score that changes the

738
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 1: complexion of this game, but something to pay attention to

739
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 1: when one team does something expertly against a team who

740
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 1: protects against it in a disastrous way. But no, this

741
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 1: matchup is terrific. You're absolutely right.

742
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:57,919
Speaker 2: One of the reasons why I think you feel good

743
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:02,280
Speaker 2: about Ole Miss in this matchup is because of the defense.

744
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 2: You're right to bring up the sack rate, right, They've

745
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 2: been very good at that. But this is a defense

746
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 2: that has gradually improved itself over the course of the year.

747
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,839
Speaker 2: It's not something we're too used to saying about Old

748
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:20,240
Speaker 2: Miss because for a good long time it's been all throttle,

749
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 2: no bottle on offense. Yeah, but also, I mean they

750
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 2: had the land Sharks. We're not that far removed from

751
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,800
Speaker 2: We're pretty far removed from Robert kimdech.

752
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 1: Rob kimdic Denzelkim Dicha, We're pretty.

753
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,959
Speaker 2: Far removed from that. That was a different year, guys, man,

754
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 2: I know, I know, okay, but the point holds here,

755
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 2: one way or the other that Lan Kiffin has done

756
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 2: a tremendous job at Oxford and the defense has improved.

757
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 2: If the defense keeps improving, and if Old Miss can

758
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 2: keep turning in ten wins seasons, he will surely be

759
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 2: bolting for greener pastures. But yeah, not for a bit

760
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 2: sign that extension. So you feel good about ole Miss Baylor?

761
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,959
Speaker 2: I went on a Baylor podcast. Good friend Peter Pope

762
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 2: over at our Daily podcast hope and talk through Baylor.

763
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 2: I was wrong about Baylor. I had Baylor pegged for

764
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 2: under five and a half for five wins. I was

765
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 2: not in on this team at all. There were too

766
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 2: many variables. They won two games last year. David Randa

767
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 2: changed his tendencies. He went for it more on fourth down.

768
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 2: He swapped out Larry Fedoric because that wasn't working. You

769
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,840
Speaker 2: brought over Jeff Grimes, who simplified things and made the

770
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 2: offense better. It was really a good success story and

771
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 2: definitely an awesome marketing pitch for anybody who might want

772
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 2: Dave Randa in the future.

773
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 1: Totally.

774
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,839
Speaker 2: It proved that he's not an egomaniac. It proved that

775
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 2: the guy is open minded and if he needs to

776
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 2: make changes quickly, he's well equipped to do so.

777
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, thats the just going forward on every fourth down.

778
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 2: Great, thirty three times this year they went forward on

779
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 2: fourth down. Yep, they got two thirds of them. You

780
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 2: compare that to ole Miss, which also is nuts when

781
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 2: it comes to a fourth down. Ole Miss was second

782
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 2: in the nation. They went for it like forty three

783
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 2: times or something like that. They didn't have nearly as

784
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:10,399
Speaker 2: high conversion rate. But these are two aggressive teams. They

785
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 2: want to play aggressively, they want to play downhill, and

786
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 2: I think that's part of the reason why I love

787
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 2: the matchup here. I favor Baylor. I favor Baylor because

788
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 2: Baylor may not have the sex appeal of an ole Miss,

789
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 2: but Baylor's just really solid and solid gets he places

790
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:31,839
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty one. Man Like ever since David Randa

791
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 2: stepped on campus, he has had this team fired up

792
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:38,359
Speaker 2: to play. They play if nothing more, even when they're

793
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,919
Speaker 2: winning two games a year in twenty twenty, they play

794
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 2: hard for him. He will have this team ready for

795
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 2: this game. He will have them prepared. They will put

796
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:51,319
Speaker 2: in a solid showing. They will just be solid. They

797
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 2: don't need to be great, they don't need to be flashy.

798
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:56,840
Speaker 2: You just need to be solid. Go out there and

799
00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:00,840
Speaker 2: play your game. What does Baylor do well cross the board?

800
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 2: All the numbers that we would pinpoint as the ones

801
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 2: that show a team puts in maximum effort week in

802
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,879
Speaker 2: and week out, special teams and defense, and we could

803
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 2: really dive in if we want it. But Baylor does

804
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 2: all those things. They play really hard. I expect we're

805
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 2: gonna get a really strong performance from them. Here is

806
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:23,839
Speaker 2: a big showing for Baylor. I think Gary Bohannon is

807
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 2: he's supposed to play. He's probable. Uh yeah, he's been practicing.

808
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,280
Speaker 2: I think the expectation was that he is going to play.

809
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,320
Speaker 2: Never love by the way, yeah, quarterback is probably gonna play.

810
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 2: Hamstring is in tatters like that.

811
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 1: I don't love. I don't love hamstring, and I think

812
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 1: it's his right hamstring with you pushing off whatever. I

813
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 1: don't know. I like Baylor a good amount, but I

814
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 1: like All Miss in this game even more, and you buy.

815
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 1: By the way, you just cursed or just curse Baylor

816
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 1: by saying their their special teams was impressive. The special

817
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 1: teams is fine. It was okay. They've had moments they've

818
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 1: had They've had moments they've had, they've made plays.

819
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:57,879
Speaker 2: Yes, that's fair.

820
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 1: You just clinched Ole Miss returning a kickoff for a time.

821
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 1: I know you just absolutely did that and have All

822
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 1: Miss win by seven points. I'm going with the rebels here.

823
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 1: I'm going with Lane Kiffin with time. I'm going with

824
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,799
Speaker 1: the better quarterback situation. I'm going with the defense that

825
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,359
Speaker 1: I feel like has the higher upside athletically, even though yes,

826
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 1: Jalen Petrie is a very very good safety back there

827
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,319
Speaker 1: for Baylor. I am going with the team that I

828
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:24,359
Speaker 1: trust to get to thirty one points more efficiently, which

829
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 1: is where I think you need to get to in

830
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 1: this game. So I'm going to ole Miss. I'm going

831
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 1: ole Miss, I'm going quarterback, I'm going speed, and I'm

832
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 1: going various ways to win. And I man, I watch

833
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 1: Baylor just screech to a halt after that first quarter

834
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 1: against Oklahoma State. Ole Miss's defense is not where the

835
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 1: pokes is. I get that, but that scares me a

836
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 1: little bit. It scares me a little bit to the

837
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:47,359
Speaker 1: start and stop element to Baylor football. Great season, great year,

838
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,879
Speaker 1: great story, great everything, they win the conference, awesome. I'm

839
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 1: going to ole Miss here.

840
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 2: I like the fact that Baylor is better and probably

841
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 2: more comfortable as a team with a ground attack.

842
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:03,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, Abram Smith a terrifically underrated running back.

843
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,360
Speaker 2: I like the fact that that is more their game

844
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 2: coming into this matchup. If it were the other way around,

845
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:13,840
Speaker 2: if it was more passing oriented, I don't know. I

846
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:16,320
Speaker 2: would be spooked that this could turn into a shootout.

847
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,399
Speaker 2: And that's all missus. Game man, you want to get

848
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:20,359
Speaker 2: into a shootout with all, miss, You're probably gonna lose.

849
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 2: I don't think that's how Baylor is going to approach this.

850
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 2: I think they'll be able to run the ball pretty well.

851
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,320
Speaker 2: They'll be able to control things and not let it

852
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 2: get two out of hand. They don't want to have

853
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 2: to play from behind. They don't want to have to

854
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 2: be scoring forty five points in order to win this

855
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 2: thing in the final minutes of the game. So I'm

856
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 2: gonna go Baylor here. I'm not again, I'm not confident

857
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 2: in any of these games. I'm just noting this is

858
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 2: a great matchup.

859
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 1: Speak with your chest, Come on, chest, I can't.

860
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie to our people. Okay, I'm not

861
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 2: confident at all. If I am picking, though, I am

862
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 2: sticking to my guns, going by what I said on

863
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:57,319
Speaker 2: the Ball Confidence preview show that we did. Yeah, I'm

864
00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 2: gonna say Baylor here outright.

865
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 1: Yeah. By the way, something we didn't mention, what we

866
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 1: sort of alluded to, there might be no punts of

867
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:07,400
Speaker 1: this game. Both of these coaches love saying like it,

868
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 1: do it, let's go, let's go. I love it football.

869
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 1: I love fourth and one midfield.

870
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:15,240
Speaker 2: Why not? It's the Sugar Bowl. This is your alxhibition bottle.

871
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 2: It's an exhibition game. Matt Corral is going to be playing.

872
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,320
Speaker 2: You know, he wants to stay out there, of course,

873
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 2: So yeah, I hope so, and I expect we'll see

874
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 2: that why not.

875
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:28,439
Speaker 1: Yeah? No, this is to me, of the New Year's

876
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 1: six games, this is more interesting to me than Notre Dame,

877
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 1: Oklahoma State, more interesting to me than Pitt Michigan State, Utah,

878
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 1: Ohio State. I always love the Rose Bull, and I

879
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 1: think this one's going to be, you know, from a

880
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:41,360
Speaker 1: narrative standpoint, pretty interesting. But Baylor Oll miss Man, that

881
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 1: is way up there, maybe the number one of these

882
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 1: non playoff games.

883
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 2: I completely agree with you. I was thrilled when I

884
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:53,359
Speaker 2: saw this matchup. Yeah, thrilled, absolutely thrilled. So great game again,

885
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 2: that's eight forty five on New Year's Day.

886
00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 1: First favorite I've taken Utah Dog, Oklahoma Stated Dog, and

887
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 1: Pitta Dog. Yeah all right, cool, let's do it.

888
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:10,280
Speaker 2: This New Year's Eve will be so awesomes of all

889
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 2: they're playing these damn games on New Year's Eve again,

890
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 2: biggest pet peeve in all of my pet peeves. They're

891
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:20,839
Speaker 2: going to get college football on New Year's Eve. They're

892
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 2: trying to start the new tradition. I don't know if

893
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 2: it's actually taken or not, but nonetheless, if you want

894
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 2: to watch the games, you got to set aside sometime

895
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 2: starting at three point thirty on New Year's Eve, because

896
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 2: that's when we've got the first of two college football

897
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 2: playoff semi finals. They play this one at the Cotton Bowl.

898
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:43,840
Speaker 2: It is number four Cincinnati, it is number one Alabama.

899
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 2: Alabama favored by thirteen at time of recording. Cincinnati won

900
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 2: thirteen and oh they were the only undefeated team. A

901
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 2: huge deal for Luke Fickle. If Luke Fickle weren't playing

902
00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 2: in a playoff, I wonder if Luke Fickle will be

903
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 2: coaching elsewhere, if he'd be at Notre Dame, not Marcus Freeman,

904
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 2: or if he'd be at LSU or USC or any

905
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 2: of these other places. But no good on Cincinnati for

906
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 2: holding onto this guy. He's done a great job. They're

907
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 2: headed to the Big twelve at some point in the

908
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 2: very near future. And Luke Fickle has definitely earned the

909
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 2: right to be choosy and patient and picky if he

910
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,760
Speaker 2: even wants to go somewhere else, because he's clearly building

911
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:28,400
Speaker 2: something really good here at Cincinnati totally. They've been pretty

912
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 2: good against the spread, nothing eye popping. Most of their

913
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 2: games have been double digit wins outside of a couple

914
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 2: of weirdo ones against Tulsa and Navy. Defense has been

915
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 2: good all round. The offense has been very very good

916
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 2: as well. This is just a solid team. Now, let

917
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 2: me back up. To say there's just solid is disrespectful, sir,

918
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 2: I get it all right. To say that they're just

919
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 2: a solid team is yes, doing them a bit of

920
00:45:56,600 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 2: a disservice. They're a very very very good team. Of

921
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 2: all the solid teams, perhaps they're the most solid.

922
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,400
Speaker 1: I don't know. Jerome Ford in the open field, my

923
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 1: j Sanders, Sauce Gardner, they're star power to this team.

924
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 2: There's star power. But do you feel that sex appeal?

925
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:15,959
Speaker 1: No, Well, they just didn't play on big stages this year,

926
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 1: and that wasn't their fault. The one big stage they

927
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:21,280
Speaker 1: played on, they took advantage of short field and turnovers

928
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 1: and beat a top ten team on the road. I

929
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 1: think that's sexy, tie, I think that's sexy as hell.

930
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:27,879
Speaker 1: I'd just give me the vapors. I'm getting tingles down

931
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 1: my spine. That's college football ASMR baby.

932
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 2: Do you think Cincinnati can go toe to toe with Alabama?

933
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 1: Yes? Why any team that can rush the passer and

934
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:49,240
Speaker 1: has secondary play behind those pass rushers, like Georgia kind

935
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 1: of has. But that was coming into the season when

936
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:54,399
Speaker 1: you look at where Georgia was strong and not so strong,

937
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 1: and they lost both of those corners last year. They

938
00:46:56,280 --> 00:47:00,040
Speaker 1: bringing a you know, the Clemson transfer whatever, But I

939
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 1: don't know Clemson with time to game plan for Alabama,

940
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:05,319
Speaker 1: There's only so much you can do against Bryce Young.

941
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 1: This is not an Alabama team going four deep with

942
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 1: first round receivers to Metchi's out, They're gonna have to

943
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:14,840
Speaker 1: rely on Slade Bolden, a couple tight ends like Jamis

944
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 1: and Williams is of course one of the best receivers

945
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 1: in the country. But in terms of varied options now,

946
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:24,280
Speaker 1: and I don't know how this actually affects things. Offensive

947
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 1: coordinator Has Covid he'll be supposedly coaching Bill O'Brien coaching

948
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 1: in this game. Offensive line coach Doug Moron Covid, we'll

949
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 1: be coaching in this game. I just there's something to

950
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 1: me about Alabama against the Cincinnati team that and we

951
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:43,799
Speaker 1: mentioned this on the Confidence Bowl preview, Cincinnati's the team

952
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:46,439
Speaker 1: quote unquote you want to get in the playoff draw, right,

953
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:49,879
Speaker 1: that could be that rap poison for Bama. If there's

954
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:53,839
Speaker 1: any sort of look at what Bama struggled with this year,

955
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 1: it's their offensive line was overwhelmed at times by LSU

956
00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 1: and Auburn. I think Cincinnati gets after there better than

957
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 1: Auburn and LSU. Did I met LSU? I think, I

958
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:08,800
Speaker 1: said Cincinnati. I think it's an interesting matchup for Cincy. Ultimately,

959
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 1: I don't think the Bearcats have the Winter Wonders. That

960
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 1: to me is the drawback that outside. Who are you

961
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 1: making Alabama pay attention to every moment of this game?

962
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 1: Michael Young, al Pierce. I just I'm not there with

963
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 1: those guys, And that's why we coin the phrase winter wonders.

964
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 1: That they don't have the gravity, and for all the

965
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:32,279
Speaker 1: good of Desmond Ridder and Drove Ford, Alabama transfer, that's

966
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 1: what I worried about that if this is a race

967
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 1: to thirty four, yeah, that Cincinnati just doesn't have the engine.

968
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 1: They don't have the gears to get to thirty four.

969
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:47,240
Speaker 1: Whereas Bryce Young is so amazing passing downs, extending plays,

970
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 1: improvising that even if a kid whoever steps into the

971
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 1: you know, the the John Metchi shoes, that they're going

972
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:58,399
Speaker 1: to step up, they're gonna make plays, and the next

973
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 1: big thing for Alabama is going to be enough. And

974
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 1: I just I don't see it from Cincinnati to have

975
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:07,840
Speaker 1: the guy to make an Alabama secondary, which has struggled

976
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 1: at times this year, for sure. I just don't know

977
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:14,399
Speaker 1: who's who's making them pay, who's shaking him down. That

978
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:16,400
Speaker 1: that to me is the issue. So I'm taking the

979
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 1: points here. I'm taking the points of Cincinnati. What's the

980
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:19,840
Speaker 1: current spread is what did you have?

981
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 2: Thirteen and a half? Yeah, it's around two scores.

982
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:25,880
Speaker 1: It's just it's too big of a spread against a

983
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:29,320
Speaker 1: defense this good at its peak. So I'm going Bama

984
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:33,800
Speaker 1: to win this game twenty eight to seventeen. Okay, twenty

985
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 1: eight to twenty somewhere between a touchdown and eleven points

986
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 1: somewhere in there.

987
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:44,799
Speaker 2: I think that I agree. I think Luke Fickle will

988
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:49,879
Speaker 2: have this team prepared. There's definitely a tendency to look

989
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 2: at this particular matchup and say, wow, since he's a

990
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 2: group of five team, they're a group of five team

991
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 2: against Alabama, they're gonna get killed. If you've paid any

992
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:02,800
Speaker 2: attention college football this year, I think I hope you

993
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:05,840
Speaker 2: would know that that's probably not the case. This is

994
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:08,839
Speaker 2: a really good team in Cincinnati. I mean I did

995
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 2: not quite do them justice by saying they're very very,

996
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 2: very very solid. They've been really freaking good.

997
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:17,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, only undefeated team from a good conference, not a

998
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:18,800
Speaker 1: great good conference.

999
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:22,920
Speaker 2: The best of Cincinnati has been outstanding this season, and

1000
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 2: we've seen flashes of that. You know, I think a

1001
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 2: couple things here. Cincinnati sure had moments against Tulsa Navy

1002
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 2: and you know, some others.

1003
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 1: Here and there around a season Tulsa game.

1004
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:36,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, but like the biggest games that they've had to play,

1005
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 2: they've really stepped up, the Notre Dame game being one

1006
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 2: of them. I'll even use the ECU game that they

1007
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:43,839
Speaker 2: played late in the year after they finally got into

1008
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 2: the top four. That was a matchup that, like ECUs

1009
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:50,440
Speaker 2: a bowl team, not a bad team. There was some

1010
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:53,799
Speaker 2: speculation like, hey, what could happen here? How about the

1011
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 2: conference championship game against Houston or the SMU. There were

1012
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 2: plenty of opportunity is here for this Cincinnati team to

1013
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:06,399
Speaker 2: lay an egg in a big spot, and in all

1014
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:09,759
Speaker 2: of the big spots they rose to the occasion, and

1015
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:13,360
Speaker 2: so I like that. That gives me some confidence that

1016
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:14,880
Speaker 2: this is a team that's going to be prepared for

1017
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 2: this game, that in the biggest moments they step up.

1018
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 2: I also think that, as you said earlier, strangely, this

1019
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 2: is an Alabama team that maybe doesn't have the same

1020
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 2: amount of weaponry that we're used to seeing. The Meshi

1021
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 2: injury is fairly significant. This is also a team that

1022
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:34,799
Speaker 2: hasn't run the ball as well this season. Of course,

1023
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 2: they have players and dudes and they're going to get theirs,

1024
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:40,720
Speaker 2: but the best pass rusher in the nations, pass rusher

1025
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 2: in the nation, I mean, it's still Alabama, right, but yeah,

1026
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 2: it's a different composition that I think we're dealing with

1027
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 2: this year. Okay, so I get it, and I'm with

1028
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 2: you on taking the points here. I just think it's

1029
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:58,800
Speaker 2: too much. What really scares me, though, is that Cincinnati

1030
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:02,359
Speaker 2: has not played a defense like this all year. They

1031
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:06,399
Speaker 2: played Notre Dame earlier in the year, and Notre Dame

1032
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:09,479
Speaker 2: was good enough. It wasn't like they got blown out,

1033
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:11,760
Speaker 2: but Notre Dame's defense was able to kind of corral

1034
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:16,800
Speaker 2: the Cincinnati offense in the second half. And I haven't

1035
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 2: seen a whole lot of other activity here from the

1036
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 2: Cincinnati offense against really good defenses to leave me feeling

1037
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 2: too confident that they can handle this. Now. Counterpoint, they

1038
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:34,280
Speaker 2: quitted themselves pretty well in last year's Bowl game against Georgia, indeed,

1039
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:36,719
Speaker 2: and that was a pretty big game against a really

1040
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 2: good defense. And so with weeks to prepare and get

1041
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:42,800
Speaker 2: ready and all these guys having another year under their belt,

1042
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 2: I don't think it's a scenario where they're going to

1043
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:46,759
Speaker 2: go out there and get blown out. But I do

1044
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:49,760
Speaker 2: think at the end of the day, talent wins, stars matter,

1045
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 2: and I probably favor the school that's been there before,

1046
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:59,400
Speaker 2: the coach that's won a gazillion national championships, the Heisman Trophy,

1047
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 2: winning quarter to make the play in the end that

1048
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:05,840
Speaker 2: ultimately wins this thing. I could see this being very close,

1049
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 2: very close. And I said it two weeks ago, and

1050
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 2: we did our preview of the two playoff games, this

1051
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 2: is the one that I'm least confident in because I

1052
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:19,960
Speaker 2: just I get the sense from Cincinnati that they can

1053
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 2: do a couple different things. Well, They've got the mobile quarterback.

1054
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:25,840
Speaker 2: They may not have the threats out why that you

1055
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 2: could beat you deep with, but they've got Jerome fod

1056
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 2: They've got guys who can rush the passer and make

1057
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:37,439
Speaker 2: things uncomfortable for the Alabama offense. So, like I I'm

1058
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 2: with you. I think more points. I think something like

1059
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:46,319
Speaker 2: thirty one, twenty four. Maybe a late touchdown gets that

1060
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:48,880
Speaker 2: cover or a late field goal or something. But I

1061
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:52,359
Speaker 2: expect Cincinnati to contend here in the end, I think

1062
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 2: Bama is better, but I think for a good chunk

1063
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 2: of the way here we could be looking at a

1064
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:57,799
Speaker 2: very very good football game.

1065
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I worry a little bit about a dam opening,

1066
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 1: that the dam breaking, that Alabama scores and immediately gets

1067
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 1: a pick six, and you're just like, what does Cincinnati

1068
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 1: look like down seventeen to three, Like what does what

1069
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:16,839
Speaker 1: does the complexion? What does the ten or what does

1070
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:19,719
Speaker 1: the rhythm of this Cincinnati team look like from that

1071
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:24,759
Speaker 1: kind of deficit? Whereas Alabama has sort of been there,

1072
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 1: done that other than Bryce Young, like, this is a

1073
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 1: team that has been through all sorts of different battles

1074
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 1: against high level competition, that that's where maybe they are

1075
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:36,400
Speaker 1: able to tap into something that Cincinnati is not, so

1076
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 1: the underthink expresses thirty eight thirteen Bama right that, like

1077
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:42,399
Speaker 1: Cincinnati is right there, it's thirteen ten after a quarter

1078
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:45,880
Speaker 1: and a half, and then dam breaks, I'm going Cincinnati

1079
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:49,279
Speaker 1: here to cover in Alabama to win this game ultimately

1080
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 1: for the reasons I laid out. But man, you can

1081
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:53,840
Speaker 1: see where this can go in a number of different

1082
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:55,400
Speaker 1: directions very quickly.

1083
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 2: If you want to bet this game, here's a pro move.

1084
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:00,479
Speaker 2: Uh oh, don't bet this line.

1085
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:02,319
Speaker 1: So what's the move?

1086
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 2: The move is to wait till the game starts, because

1087
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:08,879
Speaker 2: I saw the stats somewhere and I would happily give

1088
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:11,880
Speaker 2: the person credit if I could remember who put it

1089
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:17,239
Speaker 2: in my head. But Alabama's first handful of drives has

1090
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 2: not been the highest converting, and oftentimes it takes them

1091
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 2: a little bit to just like slink their way into

1092
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 2: a game, which is where they were these last couple

1093
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 2: of years with Max Johnson TUA like they were. You

1094
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:31,080
Speaker 2: take a long p it's twenty one nothing. Yeah, takes

1095
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 2: them a little bit longer to figure things out. I

1096
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 2: don't know if that's a Bill O'Brien thing or Bryce

1097
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:39,280
Speaker 2: young thing or whatever thing, whatever it is. First handful

1098
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:42,359
Speaker 2: of drives. Alabama has not always been the best team

1099
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:46,239
Speaker 2: in college football, and so that presents an opportunity if

1100
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 2: live betting is your thing, which I don't normally advise

1101
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 2: anyone to do because you can lose a ton of

1102
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 2: money and it's really hover, but you could find yourself

1103
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:57,799
Speaker 2: in a scenario where Bama goes three and out on

1104
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:00,399
Speaker 2: three consecutive drives, a point spread dips down to ten,

1105
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:04,840
Speaker 2: or maybe Cincinnati comes out hot, they get an early

1106
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 2: touchdown and Bama goes three and out in punts or

1107
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:10,279
Speaker 2: something like that. Just keep an eye out early to

1108
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:14,360
Speaker 2: see what that line does, because ultimately, first three drives

1109
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:16,799
Speaker 2: of the game, unless it's a huge catastrophe, throw a

1110
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 2: couple pick six is probably won't have too much bearing

1111
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 2: on the game. And if that line jumps in a

1112
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 2: direction that's favorable to you, just consider it. That's a

1113
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:29,920
Speaker 2: tendency that we've seen from Alabama. And again I apologize.

1114
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:32,680
Speaker 2: If somebody can call out who gave me that stat,

1115
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:36,320
Speaker 2: I would appreciate it, but I know that is something

1116
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 2: that I looked at before and it's potentially profitable in

1117
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 2: this matchup.

1118
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 1: So the live line is your wedding waiter with the

1119
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:47,440
Speaker 1: meatball sliders.

1120
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:48,360
Speaker 2: That's exactly Correl.

1121
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:50,720
Speaker 1: Wait for that waiter to come out the door.

1122
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:53,720
Speaker 2: Waiting the double doors. I'm waiting by the double doors.

1123
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 2: We're making eye contact. We're just about on a first

1124
00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:56,800
Speaker 2: name basis.

1125
00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:58,240
Speaker 1: He's got the meatball sliders.

1126
00:56:58,239 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 2: What do you do?

1127
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 1: Just keep your eye on the door.

1128
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:01,759
Speaker 2: Comes on.

1129
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:04,879
Speaker 1: Okay, I like that. I like that advice. I'm with it.

1130
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:15,880
Speaker 2: The second of our playoff games, Dan also just happens

1131
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 2: to be the Draft Kings sports Book Game of the Week,

1132
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:22,840
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1133
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 2: seven thirty ESPN The Orange Bowl KNIE the College football

1134
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:36,479
Speaker 2: Playoff semi final Numeroe dos at the Orange Bowl at

1135
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:41,920
Speaker 2: hard Rock Stadium, Miami. Number three Georgia, number two Michigan.

1136
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:48,439
Speaker 2: Georgia is favored by seven and one half points. Georgia, dude,

1137
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 2: they were the best team all year. Defense was awesome,

1138
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 2: They were great all year until the SEC title game.

1139
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:58,440
Speaker 2: We all know how that went. Yep, we all know

1140
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 2: how that went. Alabama with his own victory. Now everybody's

1141
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:06,320
Speaker 2: asking questions about Georgia. But George is in this game rightfully,

1142
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 2: so they deserve to be in the playoff, even after

1143
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:12,440
Speaker 2: the loss eight and five against the spread. Their defense

1144
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 2: look had a bad game against Bama, but as you

1145
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 2: rightly note here in your notes, second best defense after

1146
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:26,920
Speaker 2: twenty eleven Alabama of the modern year. So it's just incredible.

1147
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 2: Been an incredible defense, and it's been an incredible ride

1148
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 2: here for Michigan as well. Michigan won the Big Ten

1149
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 2: championship eleven and two against the point spread? Is that

1150
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 2: the best of any team this year? I feel like

1151
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:40,920
Speaker 2: it's got to be close.

1152
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:43,880
Speaker 1: They are. They are the number one team against the spread,

1153
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 1: a team that, like you mentioned earlier, Look, look if

1154
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:48,000
Speaker 1: you're coming off of a bad season and people are

1155
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 1: saying like this is it for Jim Harbaugh, they are

1156
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:52,640
Speaker 1: not going to get a lot of love from Vegas

1157
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 1: until they absolutely prove it. So they overcame everything, especially

1158
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 1: later on in the year when they emphatically took it

1159
00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 1: to teams Ohio State, Iowa, Maryland elite losers like all

1160
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:04,000
Speaker 1: these teams they ran away from. They weren't. After the

1161
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:05,920
Speaker 1: the Rutgers game was not was kind of a low

1162
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 1: light when they didn't score in the second half, But

1163
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:10,360
Speaker 1: really they got their act together and made the best

1164
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 1: of what they did have on offense instead of sort

1165
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:15,800
Speaker 1: of lamenting what they didn't, which is why Josh gattis

1166
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:17,680
Speaker 1: I think he won the Broils right a System of

1167
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 1: the Year.

1168
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I mean, look, Michigan's got a lot to

1169
00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:26,040
Speaker 2: prove here, but is very deserving of this game. Obviously,

1170
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 2: they won their conference. They finished out the year by

1171
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 2: beating Ohio State and Iowa in resounding fashion. The defense

1172
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:37,320
Speaker 2: has been solid. They've got Aiden Hutchinson. He got his

1173
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:41,880
Speaker 2: name in the ring of the Heisman. So like, there's

1174
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:44,440
Speaker 2: so much to be excited about if you're a Michigan

1175
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:46,920
Speaker 2: fan going into this game. And I think one of

1176
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:50,400
Speaker 2: the more interesting elements for me is the fact that

1177
00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:52,920
Speaker 2: they can. It's not to say that they always do,

1178
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 2: but they certainly can, and to some extent, prefer to

1179
00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 2: play the SAMs dial of offenses Georgia. They want to

1180
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:07,400
Speaker 2: play that bully ball that they beat Ohio State with.

1181
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:09,760
Speaker 2: They want to do that. That's where they're most comfortable.

1182
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:11,920
Speaker 2: They don't want to turn it over to Kate McNamara

1183
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:14,600
Speaker 2: to throw it forty times. Kate McNamara has been very

1184
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:16,800
Speaker 2: good this year, don't get me wrong, but that's just

1185
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 2: not their game. That's not what they want to do.

1186
01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:20,920
Speaker 2: They want to run with Hassan Haskins, they want to

1187
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:23,600
Speaker 2: run with Blake Quorum. They want to wear you down

1188
01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:25,960
Speaker 2: the way they wore Ohio State down. They want to

1189
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:28,919
Speaker 2: run until your eyes bleed, and they want to win

1190
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 2: and they want to move on and they want to

1191
01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:33,360
Speaker 2: play for the national championship. The question that I have

1192
01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:36,920
Speaker 2: for you, and this is why I'm skeptical of Michigan

1193
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:41,120
Speaker 2: is the only reason why I am skeptical that they

1194
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:45,240
Speaker 2: can play that style of football and beat Georgia. Alabama

1195
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:48,680
Speaker 2: against Georgia is different. There's a Bryce Young factor there,

1196
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:53,760
Speaker 2: there's a passing threat. It's just different, just very very different.

1197
01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:57,960
Speaker 2: Alabama was not like rushing oriented, Like there wasn't one

1198
01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 2: particular thing on the Alabama side you could point to

1199
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:04,240
Speaker 2: and say stop that and you'll probably win this game

1200
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:07,080
Speaker 2: because they can kind of do everything right stop right,

1201
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:07,520
Speaker 2: so Young.

1202
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:08,160
Speaker 1: You have a good shot.

1203
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:12,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, But like with Michigan, I feel like the Georgia

1204
01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:14,760
Speaker 2: defense is good enough to take away that run, to

1205
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:17,160
Speaker 2: force them out of their game and make things really

1206
01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:21,080
Speaker 2: uncomfortable for Kay McNamara and Jim Harbaugh. That's why I

1207
01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:23,520
Speaker 2: favor Georgia here. That's really the only reason why.

1208
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:26,480
Speaker 1: What do you think you're saying Michigan does not have

1209
01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:32,120
Speaker 1: the foundation, They don't have the metal. You have a

1210
01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:37,360
Speaker 1: hard time constructing the grit, the dirt of the Jim

1211
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:41,880
Speaker 1: Harbaugh Michigan experience to a championship contending squad.

1212
01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 2: I don't think I'm saying that against Georgia.

1213
01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:45,360
Speaker 1: You are.

1214
01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:47,760
Speaker 2: I'm just I'm not saying they don't have the grid,

1215
01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:52,400
Speaker 2: saying any of that stuff. All I'm saying is that

1216
01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:57,240
Speaker 2: I'm here and turn the music. All I'm saying is this,

1217
01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:01,120
Speaker 2: uh huh. I think it's a very tough matchup for Michigan,

1218
01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:03,040
Speaker 2: as it would be for anybody going up against his

1219
01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:03,960
Speaker 2: Georgia defense.

1220
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:04,520
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1221
01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:06,840
Speaker 2: I feel like the Georgia defense can take away the

1222
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:10,000
Speaker 2: one thing Michigan wants to do well, and if they

1223
01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:12,440
Speaker 2: do that, that presents a problem for this offense and

1224
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:15,680
Speaker 2: how they score points. Right, doesn't mean that the Georgia

1225
01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:18,800
Speaker 2: offense is gonna thrive either, which is probably a separate

1226
01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:21,880
Speaker 2: topic of discussion that we'll get into, sure, But what

1227
01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:25,520
Speaker 2: scares me, as somebody who will be rooting for Michigan

1228
01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:28,520
Speaker 2: in this game, I'm not gonna make any you know,

1229
01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:28,920
Speaker 2: I'm not.

1230
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:30,160
Speaker 1: Why are you rooting for Michigan.

1231
01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:32,960
Speaker 2: It's been too long since they were on this stage.

1232
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:35,400
Speaker 1: All right, you want big weird harbass speeches.

1233
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:38,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm rooting for him in this game. I'm

1234
01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:39,880
Speaker 2: just really concerned about that matchup.

1235
01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:47,640
Speaker 1: Okay. Look, Michigan is scoring points. They're finding explosive plays

1236
01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:49,440
Speaker 1: in ways that they weren't able to earlier on in

1237
01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:52,800
Speaker 1: the season. And for all of the talking points that

1238
01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:55,080
Speaker 1: I'm sure you and I are both responsible for that

1239
01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:57,400
Speaker 1: would lead to us saying something like Cad McNamara throwing

1240
01:02:57,400 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 1: into the Georgia defense, I don't know. Players improve over

1241
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:05,000
Speaker 1: the course of the year. Coaches adjust, and they lose

1242
01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:07,120
Speaker 1: their best receiver earlier on in the year, and Ronnie

1243
01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:09,959
Speaker 1: Bell pretty early on, and they've adjusted. They found dudes.

1244
01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:12,840
Speaker 1: They're lining Donovan Edwards up in different spots andrel Anthony

1245
01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:15,479
Speaker 1: steps up in a losing effort I believe against Michigan State,

1246
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:19,600
Speaker 1: but they're finding guys. The defense makes plays. The defense

1247
01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:22,439
Speaker 1: has the luxury of playing with David Ojabo and Aiden

1248
01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:26,120
Speaker 1: Hutchinson rushing the quarterback, which is very nice. And we

1249
01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:29,720
Speaker 1: saw when Georgia couldn't get home. How Alabama was Alabama.

1250
01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:33,520
Speaker 1: I say, like Forrest Gump, Alabama was able to take

1251
01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:36,720
Speaker 1: advantage when Georgia couldn't get home. I think Michigan is

1252
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:39,560
Speaker 1: well coached. I think they rushed the passer. I think

1253
01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:43,040
Speaker 1: they prevent big plays. I think Cave McNamara is not

1254
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:45,200
Speaker 1: all that different. I don't think he's that as good

1255
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:48,040
Speaker 1: as Stetson Bennett, who we anticipate playing, especially with the

1256
01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:50,160
Speaker 1: news of JT. Daniels coming down with COVID, and I

1257
01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:52,880
Speaker 1: think negative tests within the quarterback room so far otherwise.

1258
01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:58,200
Speaker 1: But I am going Michigan here to win this game.

1259
01:03:58,400 --> 01:03:58,920
Speaker 2: WHOA.

1260
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:03,000
Speaker 1: I'm going Outredean outright to win this game.

1261
01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:03,640
Speaker 2: WHOA?

1262
01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:09,200
Speaker 1: Because I feel as if we are doing everything we

1263
01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:12,520
Speaker 1: can to talk ourselves out of Michigan winning this game.

1264
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:17,200
Speaker 1: Like it's easy to talk yourself into Georgia. But if

1265
01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:18,840
Speaker 1: you just don't think Kate McNamara is good enough to

1266
01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:20,840
Speaker 1: make plays against the Georgia defense, I get that, Go

1267
01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:23,680
Speaker 1: with Georgia, Go with the dogs. There's also a huge

1268
01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:27,880
Speaker 1: spot for Georgia, and historically speaking, if you're believing in

1269
01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:30,440
Speaker 1: the Karmick powers of the universe, maybe not Karmick, but

1270
01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:32,680
Speaker 1: just the greater powers of the college football universe.

1271
01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:34,000
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1272
01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:36,040
Speaker 1: They lose their defensive coordinator, who's gonna be there, But

1273
01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:37,960
Speaker 1: I don't think calling the defense, and Dan Lanning was

1274
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:40,440
Speaker 1: moving on to Oregon. So now Will must Champ and

1275
01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:43,760
Speaker 1: Glenn Schumann are the co coordinators in this one. So

1276
01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:47,680
Speaker 1: now we're talking about Broyle's award winning assistant offensive coordinator

1277
01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:51,240
Speaker 1: against Will must Champ. Like I just there are differences

1278
01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:53,920
Speaker 1: in this game. So George Pickens I saw tested positive

1279
01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:56,560
Speaker 1: for COVID but then subsequently tested negative. So maybe there

1280
01:04:56,600 --> 01:04:58,480
Speaker 1: was a false positive there, which could be a boon

1281
01:04:58,560 --> 01:05:01,680
Speaker 1: and certainly adds a win wonder in a gravitational element

1282
01:05:01,720 --> 01:05:04,800
Speaker 1: to this Georgia offense to go with Brock Bauers of

1283
01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:06,960
Speaker 1: course in the passing game and at times, Lad McConkie,

1284
01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:12,000
Speaker 1: I'm going Michigan here. I think the stronger coach and

1285
01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:17,040
Speaker 1: stronger staff right now may just be in Ann Arbor.

1286
01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:19,160
Speaker 1: I like the offensive line that just won the Joe

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Speaker 1: More Award. I don't think they're gonna run all that successfully,

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01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:24,960
Speaker 1: don't think they're gonna score all that many points. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think they can win this game twenty four to

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Speaker 1: twenty one. Twenty to seventeen, twenty seven to twenty four,

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01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:33,840
Speaker 1: something like that. So I don't love the pick, but

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01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:36,920
Speaker 1: I'm speaking with my chest and I can just see it.

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01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:40,600
Speaker 1: I can see Dax Hill running down Hill. I can

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01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:46,800
Speaker 1: see Michigan's defense making plays. And I don't know. There's

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01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:50,680
Speaker 1: something about the pass rush that in these to me

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01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:54,480
Speaker 1: close matchups, when you have that transformational guy in Aiden Hutchinson,

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01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:58,480
Speaker 1: that it's gonna make it. I think that is the

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01:05:58,680 --> 01:06:02,520
Speaker 1: on the margins slight difference to me, and I have

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01:06:02,560 --> 01:06:03,800
Speaker 1: Michigan winning this by three.

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Speaker 2: If they're gonna win, it would be by three. It

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01:06:07,640 --> 01:06:13,080
Speaker 2: would be a hard fought, defensive battle field position, probably

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01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:16,640
Speaker 2: a couple turnovers. It will still be dictated by defense

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01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:19,240
Speaker 2: in some way, shape or form. I don't think you're

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01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:21,760
Speaker 2: gonna see some sort of outpouring of offense here. That's

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01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:24,160
Speaker 2: just not the way that this game's gonna go down.

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01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:28,400
Speaker 2: But right, I will tell you I spoke with my

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01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:30,520
Speaker 2: chest a few weeks ago.

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Speaker 1: You did, You absolutely did.

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01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:33,720
Speaker 2: I spoke with my chest a few weeks ago, and

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01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:36,800
Speaker 2: I tweeted out that George is gonna throttle Michigan, And

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01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:39,800
Speaker 2: that really wasn't like intended to be a dig or

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01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:42,880
Speaker 2: a dunk or anything against Michigan. I just felt like

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01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:47,080
Speaker 2: George was a lot better, okay, And I have sort

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01:06:47,080 --> 01:06:49,120
Speaker 2: of talked myself off of that pedestal a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:52,320
Speaker 2: You know, in typical fashion, the closer you get to

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01:06:52,360 --> 01:06:55,640
Speaker 2: the game, the more you dig in. I understand why

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Speaker 2: you go Michigan.

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01:06:56,800 --> 01:06:58,480
Speaker 1: Do you have a total lean? I think it's forty

1320
01:06:58,520 --> 01:06:59,920
Speaker 1: five for our friends at DraftKings.

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Speaker 2: I would not want to go over on this, really,

1322
01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:06,360
Speaker 2: I would not want to go over on this because

1323
01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:08,160
Speaker 2: I think there will be a tendency. I mean, we've

1324
01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:10,880
Speaker 2: seen it from Kirby, We've certainly seen it from Jim

1325
01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:14,080
Speaker 2: Harbaugh to just sort of play close to the vest, okay,

1326
01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:18,200
Speaker 2: and not do anything wrong. And frankly, both of these

1327
01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:22,480
Speaker 2: quarterbacks are those types of quarterbacks. Caive McNamara has been

1328
01:07:22,520 --> 01:07:26,200
Speaker 2: very good at that, just minimize damage. And so I

1329
01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:28,640
Speaker 2: could definitely see both these programs trying to keep this

1330
01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:32,280
Speaker 2: pretty low scoring ball, control field position, that type of thing.

1331
01:07:32,360 --> 01:07:35,880
Speaker 2: But I get where you're coming from. I'm still worried

1332
01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:38,920
Speaker 2: about the same thing though that caused me to send

1333
01:07:38,920 --> 01:07:42,400
Speaker 2: out that dumb tweet weeks ago, and that is that

1334
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:46,480
Speaker 2: particular matchup with what Michigan wants to do on offense

1335
01:07:46,560 --> 01:07:49,160
Speaker 2: and what Georgia wants to do on defense, and how

1336
01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:52,280
Speaker 2: good the defense is if they take away that rushing

1337
01:07:52,320 --> 01:07:54,880
Speaker 2: component from Michigan. Are they going to be good enough?

1338
01:07:54,880 --> 01:08:00,560
Speaker 2: Can Cad McNamara throw it thirty thirty five times if

1339
01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:03,960
Speaker 2: need be and win this game for the Wolverines? That,

1340
01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:06,880
Speaker 2: to me is the question. And to answer that question,

1341
01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:10,680
Speaker 2: I feel more confident right now in the Georgia Bulldogs

1342
01:08:10,680 --> 01:08:13,120
Speaker 2: defense that do the Michigan offense. But this is a

1343
01:08:13,120 --> 01:08:16,800
Speaker 2: fascinating game. I would bet Georgia minus the number. I

1344
01:08:16,840 --> 01:08:18,000
Speaker 2: would bet Georgia minus the.

1345
01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:20,679
Speaker 1: Number for a number six and a half and half

1346
01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:22,040
Speaker 1: and a half, seven and a half.

1347
01:08:22,120 --> 01:08:27,160
Speaker 2: Yep, I think we're probably looking at a game. I

1348
01:08:27,160 --> 01:08:35,400
Speaker 2: would say something like twenty eight to seventeen, like right

1349
01:08:35,400 --> 01:08:37,840
Speaker 2: around that number, right on the total. Ok, Yeah, I

1350
01:08:37,840 --> 01:08:39,120
Speaker 2: guess right around that number.

1351
01:08:39,600 --> 01:08:39,960
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1352
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:42,960
Speaker 2: I'm definitely more confident in this bet than I would

1353
01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:46,800
Speaker 2: be that Cincinnati Alabama game. I still feel that way,

1354
01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:50,360
Speaker 2: but all I can see the logic behind it, and

1355
01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:54,439
Speaker 2: again we've been very friendly to the Georgia folks over

1356
01:08:54,479 --> 01:08:58,719
Speaker 2: the years. I will be happy with whoever wins this game. Okay,

1357
01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:01,719
Speaker 2: I am pulling for Michigan, though it's a cool stage

1358
01:09:01,720 --> 01:09:03,080
Speaker 2: for them. I'm excited to watch.

1359
01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:06,880
Speaker 1: Promise me this because now that I mentioned the waiter

1360
01:09:06,920 --> 01:09:09,640
Speaker 1: with the meatball slider, I am once again fully fixated.

1361
01:09:09,640 --> 01:09:12,880
Speaker 1: I'm getting a meatball sub oozing with mazzarella cheese. What

1362
01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:16,040
Speaker 1: will you be eating on December thirty first, for these games,

1363
01:09:16,120 --> 01:09:19,639
Speaker 1: give me at least one meal that you are going

1364
01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:24,000
Speaker 1: to try and make or order or whatever to further

1365
01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:26,280
Speaker 1: your enjoyment. You can get a giant Italian sub, or

1366
01:09:26,320 --> 01:09:28,240
Speaker 1: you can go with some Thai food to be very

1367
01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:29,080
Speaker 1: in with your name.

1368
01:09:29,400 --> 01:09:32,439
Speaker 2: Sure, I'm so. There is a good chance there will

1369
01:09:32,479 --> 01:09:36,439
Speaker 2: be folks over here family watching the games with us,

1370
01:09:37,320 --> 01:09:40,000
Speaker 2: and so my hunch is that it won't necessarily be

1371
01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:43,879
Speaker 2: any kind of grain feast, but something of the takeout

1372
01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:45,840
Speaker 2: variety with some kids that are gonna be over great.

1373
01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:47,480
Speaker 2: So maybe it's just pizza.

1374
01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:50,639
Speaker 1: Maybe it's just something sim pizza food of the gods.

1375
01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:52,960
Speaker 2: But whatever it is, it will be good football food

1376
01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:55,360
Speaker 2: because we're obviously going to have these games as backdrop.

1377
01:09:55,439 --> 01:09:58,720
Speaker 1: How about yourself, I'm gonna try to get a meatball sub. Yeah,

1378
01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:00,880
Speaker 1: to try to get a meat. I'll be in California,

1379
01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:03,160
Speaker 1: so I might try to make a pan or two

1380
01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:05,960
Speaker 1: of Detroit pizza. If not, I think I'm gonna go

1381
01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:08,439
Speaker 1: meet ball sub for at least one of the meals involved,

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Speaker 1: beautiful day of football.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, I think that's all I got, Dan.

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Speaker 1: This has been fun, this has been quite fun. I

1397
01:11:02,360 --> 01:11:04,280
Speaker 1: cannot wait for the games. I cannot wait to eat,

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Speaker 1: I cannot wait to maybe we'll throw in a live

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