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Speaker 1: Hello Texans, Welcome to the program. Another one coming to

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Speaker 1: you from Orlando, the NFL Annual Meeting, and we have

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Speaker 1: a lot to get to today, man oh Man. We've

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Speaker 1: got the Hall of Fame Game to talk about, we

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Speaker 1: have the kickoff rule to talk about. We have NFL

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Speaker 1: weirdness in scheduling. Now this doesn't necessarily involve the Texans,

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Speaker 1: but the NFL will play on Wednesday Christmas Day. How

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Speaker 1: about that Wednesday Christmas Day. They'll do it because they'll

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Speaker 1: funnel in teams playing the Saturday before, so they have

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Speaker 1: a normal, sort of normal Sunday Thursday type of week.

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Speaker 1: It'll be Saturday Wednesday instead, and then you get a

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Speaker 1: longer Mini by after that, so that's kind of cool.

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Speaker 1: Hard Knocks is going to have a full division instead

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Speaker 1: of one team when they do the in season variety,

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Speaker 1: so that'll be cool. But the Hall of Fame Game,

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Speaker 1: you have an earlier start to camp, earlier departure from

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Speaker 1: Mini camp, and the Texans are in it. And we'll

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Speaker 1: talk about the Hall of Fame Game more with Jeff

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Speaker 1: Joniak in segment two because he's the voice of the

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Speaker 1: Bear Texans are playing the Bears. Jeff has been to

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Speaker 1: don't know, but we'll talk to him about that. But

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Speaker 1: let's not waste any more time. Let's get to our

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Speaker 1: visit with Chairman, CEO and now principal owner of the

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Speaker 1: Houston Texans Cal McNair and vice president of the Houston

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Speaker 1: Texans Foundation, Hannah McNair visiting with the McNair's. Okay, how

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Speaker 1: has it been so far these NFL meetings? Cal, Hannah welcome,

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Speaker 1: great to have you with us. How do you enjoy

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Speaker 1: being here?

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 3: We enjoy. We enjoy being around the other owners and

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Speaker 3: having some a lot of great dialogue about the game

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Speaker 3: of football and just with some really bright minds, and

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Speaker 3: we're in a really great spot, you know, and it's

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Speaker 1: Are you feeling the love the celebration of the season

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Speaker 1: that was? I know we're well into twenty twenty four now,

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Speaker 1: but how much positive feedback are you getting on the

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Speaker 1: season the Texans had?

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I mean the other owners are kind of

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Speaker 3: But no, it's a it's a good group and we're

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Speaker 1: Yet, tell me, cal the vote that took place during

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Speaker 1: these meetings, you are now the principal owner of the

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Speaker 1: Houston Texans.

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Speaker 2: How important is that? What's the significance of it? Really?

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Speaker 3: Well, I've been doing a lot of the work and

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Speaker 3: she'll still be there, She's still the co founder, still

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Speaker 3: a senior chair, all those things. But the principal owner

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Speaker 3: title does slide to me, which you know, I'm excited

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Speaker 1: A lot of positive comments Jerry Jones among the owners

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Speaker 2: That had to feel good as well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And actually we saw him last night and thanked

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Speaker 4: These years, he's one of the best owners to ever

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Speaker 3: Yeah, very complimentary. And Dad felt the same way about him,

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Speaker 3: mister Jones, and so do I, and so we're really

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Speaker 4: It was really awesome because he then directed his comments

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Speaker 5: The three boys were standing there, Robert.

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Speaker 5: And I just think that's so incredible.

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Speaker 4: And that speaks to the volume of the closeness of

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Mom's done such a great job stepping in when

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Speaker 4: To do so, which is rare that a principal owner

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Speaker 5: So we're celebrating this.

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Speaker 4: But it's also wonderful for Cal because he can still

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Speaker 5: To go to who's been in his shoes. So I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's awesome.

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Speaker 1: And Cal, you were coming to these meetings forever with

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Speaker 3: Yeah, terrific. You know, he tried to prepare me as

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Speaker 5: Been a delight.

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Speaker 3: What it's been a you know, that was just so

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Speaker 3: the respect that he built over time, and the service

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Speaker 3: even above there. Sometimes I'm going, Dad, this isn't really

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Speaker 2: Team first, yep, Team first, all right.

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Speaker 1: In no particular order, we found out that the Hall

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Speaker 1: first time since the very first game the Texans ever played.

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Speaker 2: Very first game. Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah, we haven't been invited.

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Speaker 5: Were there, right?

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Speaker 1: And it's the only game. Here's a good trivia note.

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Speaker 1: The only game that John Madden ever did involving the

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Speaker 2: But it's a thrill to go back right.

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Speaker 3: First time, invited back, so it's a real honor to

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Speaker 3: going into the Hall of Fame, just like having our

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Speaker 1: I would imagine some celebration around there and hanging out

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Speaker 2: What a special weekend that's going to be.

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Speaker 1: I know there's probably a lot of planning to do

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Speaker 3: We have started planning and that can walk you through

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Speaker 3: that a little more than I can. But there's been

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Speaker 4: And yeah, I think they start getting there on the Tuesday.

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Speaker 4: The Hall of Fame game is on Thursday, so Andre

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Speaker 4: We're excited. We're going to bring the kids in. It

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Speaker 4: it's Andre Johnson. I mean, he's the definition of the

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Speaker 5: So we couldn't be more excited.

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Speaker 4: And when Andre went to go visit a couple of

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Speaker 4: so that was really special. For Cale's mom, we gave

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Speaker 4: and we're just we've always been big fans of Andre,

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Speaker 4: So it cannot okay, now we have to do that

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Speaker 4: right direction. We'll be working closely with Andre to make

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Speaker 2: So can't wait for that.

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Speaker 1: And you get to open training camp early because of

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Speaker 1: this game, right, I don't know if that's exciting.

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Speaker 6: It's a little hot.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I know it's always hot in Houston, but

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Speaker 4: you know, in football, you don't get so many weeks off,

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Speaker 4: and so you know that beginning of July is when

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Speaker 4: all of us take off, and now we all get.

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Speaker 5: To see each other even earlier. Aren't you excited.

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Speaker 3: Well, they'll adjust. Probably OTA's back a week, so the

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Speaker 5: I was talking about us, Jabe, that camp. What I'm

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Speaker 4: There's like certain times I get to have a vacation

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Speaker 5: Back to football.

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Speaker 4: So that's that's a special time of year. But now

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Speaker 4: we get to go celebrate the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I look at the positives more Col's cookout opportunities, possibilities.

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Speaker 6: Anyway, one hundred and.

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Speaker 5: Twenty degree weather, Babe, aren't you excited?

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Speaker 2: Let's go with the fire up the grills. I'll ask

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Speaker 2: you real questions later.

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Speaker 1: I want to hear about the Reddit post you made,

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Speaker 1: because when we all saw that picture.

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Speaker 5: Which one a mas no.

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Speaker 1: The recent one with the uniform leak and I know

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Speaker 1: you're just playing on my Reddit account.

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Speaker 1: With the Reddit post, that was great because we saw

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Speaker 1: of Tank and Nico in the whites with the dark bottoms.

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Speaker 1: Can you speak to that a little bit. It really

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Speaker 1: hit it big with with the viewers, the social media consumers.

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Speaker 3: Uh, well, you're nice. Yeah, the league happened. We were

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Speaker 1: Right going We're going with this. But one thing I

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Speaker 4: So I think one of the best things Cal has

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Speaker 1: One more for you here we are draft not too

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Speaker 3: Well, I really like how Nick and a coach are

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Speaker 3: He's from Katie and so having all these things and

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much for visiting with us today.

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Speaker 1: There's our visit with Cal and Hannah McNair. Now, if

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Speaker 1: With a ton to do, I promise Jeff Joniac Voice

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Speaker 1: Jim and I visited about kickoff rule, about some other

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Speaker 2: Listen in, Jim, what.

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Speaker 1: Do you get out of this the NFL meetings as

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Speaker 2: Which do you like better? Which is good for you?

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Speaker 1: The Bears are coming to Houston this year. So how's

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Speaker 8: areas he needs to work on. You know, here, I

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Speaker 8: cover the Bears every week. I've seen every snap that

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Speaker 8: guy's ever had. I call them preseason games, so I

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Speaker 8: saw all his preseason work. I've seen him in practice,

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Speaker 8: and you know, it's just he's not a polished product.

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Speaker 8: Right now. He's better than what he was, and I

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Speaker 8: think everybody realizes he can make jaw dropping plays, but

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Speaker 8: at the same time, he's got to clean up a

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Speaker 8: lot of things. He gets sacked way too much. The turnovers,

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Speaker 8: meaning the fumbles have been too much as well, where

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Speaker 8: he just needs more polish, and it'll probably be good

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Speaker 8: for him to try and get more polish under Russell

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Speaker 8: Wilson in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 1: Jim Miller with us Serious x MNFL Radio, we were

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Speaker 1: mentioning the depth with the Texans and all teams. It's

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Speaker 1: so important, more important than ever. Right with the seventeen

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Speaker 1: game schedule. I feel like every year guys in that

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Speaker 1: second and third level often play.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, well, I mean now more and more you see

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Speaker 8: more contributors through through the draft. I mean look at

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Speaker 8: say a team like the Rams. They had two really

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Speaker 8: good rookies that were huge contributors, you know, Puka Nikola,

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Speaker 8: and you'd say Turner, Kobe Turner on the defensive line.

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Speaker 8: So and I think for the Bears that was the

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Speaker 8: same thing. The last two years, all of their draft

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Speaker 8: picks have played a significant time. Actually, last year the

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Speaker 8: Bears had more rookies that log snaps than any team

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Speaker 8: in the NFL. So it depends on you know, obviously

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Speaker 8: everybody knows the Bears have been trying to rebuild their

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Speaker 8: roster and it's about getting younger and playing those young

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Speaker 8: talented players. And they've done a really nice job drafting

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Speaker 8: players who they targeted.

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Speaker 1: You played at Michigan State College Athletics. The way it

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Speaker 1: is right now gym with the nil and transfer portal craziness,

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Speaker 1: and I think it might have an effect on the NFL,

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Speaker 1: does it? And what do you think in general of

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Speaker 1: the college situation of what can be done?

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Speaker 8: Well, I think you saw it this year at the Combine.

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Speaker 8: It has affected the NFL level because you know, here

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Speaker 8: football is a team sport and now you know when

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Speaker 8: you're going to a job interview at the Combine, and

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Speaker 8: then some players elect not to even give a physical

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Speaker 8: or are not participating in the in the drills that

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Speaker 8: are down there. Even Mickey Loomis talked today, he goes,

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Speaker 8: we need to get the data so that we know

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Speaker 8: and we have confidence and what this data leads us

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Speaker 8: to believe that a player can do at the next level.

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Speaker 8: And it's odd that some of these some of these kids,

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Speaker 8: I don't want to call them kids, young men go

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Speaker 8: to the combine and elect not to participate. That's considered

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Speaker 8: a fast track in Indianapolis. Why would you wait? And

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Speaker 8: even Jim Naggy tweeted out, He's like, I don't get

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Speaker 8: where some of these kids are getting the ideas that

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Speaker 8: their their agents or handlers so to speak, are telling

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Speaker 8: them not to work out when it's only going to

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Speaker 8: benefit them at Indianapolis. They're going to go back to

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Speaker 8: their college for their pro day and run on a

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Speaker 8: slower track. It makes no sense. So I think that

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Speaker 8: Nil has individualized it more or you know, it's more

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Speaker 8: about me rather than the team. Football is a team sport,

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Speaker 8: and I think he kind of saw that and why

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Speaker 8: you know, things were a little bit different and unsettled

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Speaker 8: at the combine this year.

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Speaker 2: One more for you, Jim.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get a game in Brazil twenty twenty five

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Speaker 1: is gonna be crazy, got Madrid among other things. So

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Speaker 1: are we going to get a team or teams in

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Speaker 1: Europe at some point in this league?

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Speaker 8: Well, according to Roger Goodell, I still think it's about

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Speaker 8: a decade away, but he seems to be, you know,

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Speaker 8: he brings it up more and more that he would

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Speaker 8: like a four team division over there, and so so

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Speaker 8: teams here on the Mainland would basically fly over there,

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Speaker 8: take a two week stint, play one team one weekend,

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Speaker 8: than the next weekend they play, say Frankfurt or whoever

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Speaker 8: where they station the teams. But it's probably about a

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Speaker 8: decade away, But yeah, I do think that's gonna happen.

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Speaker 2: Jim, thanks a lot for joining us all. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: There's Jim Miller from Sirius XM satellite NFL radio. Now

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Speaker 1: my buddy Mike Reese ESPN covers the Patriots and the NFL,

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Speaker 1: and I love visiting with Mike because we have a history.

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Speaker 1: Mike gets such a pleasure to catch up.

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Speaker 6: Have you been been great? Always great to be That

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Speaker 6: brings back such great memories. You have to tell everyone

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Speaker 6: our connection.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, from you Mass and I was very young. No,

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Speaker 2: I wasn't that young, but you were very young.

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Speaker 1: You were a student doing U Mass women's basketball on

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Speaker 1: the station of which I was sports director and eventually

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Speaker 1: station manager. You did a hell of a job as

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Speaker 1: a play by play man. Do you still do any

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Speaker 1: play by play?

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Speaker 6: I don't, but I still remember rock and Roll because

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Speaker 6: you were like someone we looked up to. It was

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Speaker 6: so fun marketing. It's so great, and I love that

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Speaker 6: as you moved on, we stayed connected through the football.

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Speaker 1: Yep, through the NFL. But I mean that about your

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Speaker 1: play by play skills. You definitely have great play by

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Speaker 1: play chops. Our buddy Mike Corey is on ESPN, which

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Speaker 1: is nice, and I think.

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Speaker 2: We're the only one. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Are there some others who are still in the industry

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Speaker 1: from your generation at U Mass students?

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Speaker 6: They are, but I think Mike's the highest profile. And Okay,

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Speaker 6: I love when we'll turn on the TV on a

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Speaker 6: Friday night it's like an Atlantic ten game, which was

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Speaker 6: our conference, you know, at UMAs, and he'll be on

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Speaker 6: there and it just brings back great memory.

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Speaker 1: It's great to see a Mike Reasee with US covers

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Speaker 1: the new England Patriots like nobody else can And how interesting,

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Speaker 1: odd intriguing is this era, Mike, as you say goodbye

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Speaker 1: to Bill Belichick and it's completely brand new, what's that

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Speaker 1: like for you?

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Speaker 6: Well, get incredible change. And I guess I would sum

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Speaker 6: it up knowing the audience that might be listening to this,

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Speaker 6: I mean, they'd love to do what the Texans did

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Speaker 6: last year, right with the new coach, the new quarterback,

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Speaker 6: and the new hope. And I think that's how I

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Speaker 6: would sum it up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, girod Mayo, he's been in the news and rumor

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Speaker 1: mills for various coaching jobs the Texans early on when

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Speaker 1: they were looking past the Bill O'Brien era, but obviously

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Speaker 1: that didn't materialize. What are you getting from him so far?

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Speaker 6: So really wants to be open and transparent. Two things.

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Speaker 6: The first thing, he invites all the local media to

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Speaker 6: a happy hour off the record, Come meet me, come

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Speaker 6: meet my coaches. We want to open this thing up

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Speaker 6: because we want to have a great relationship with our

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Speaker 6: local media, which you know, I loved covering Bill Belichick

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Speaker 6: because I loved the Super Bowls and the winning with

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Speaker 6: that came there were no happy hours.

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Speaker 2: If you know what I mean.

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Speaker 6: And and you know, and we would be at an

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Speaker 6: event at the Owner's meeting or the NFL annual meeting,

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Speaker 6: whatever you call it, and he would be like nails

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Speaker 6: on the chalkboard to talk to him, right, And so

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Speaker 6: I think we're seeing a change in approach and demeanor.

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Speaker 6: And so that's the first thing. And the second thing

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Speaker 6: is like when Belichick would come into the media workroom,

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Speaker 6: he'd stand behind a podium. Gerad wants to come and

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Speaker 6: sit on a chair with a table in front of

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Speaker 6: him because he wants the feeling that he's speaking with

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Speaker 6: us among us, not us. And so just let's give

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Speaker 6: you two examples of just some of the change over

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Speaker 6: the last couple months.

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Speaker 1: Interesting Mike Reees joining us from ESPN covers the Patriots,

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Speaker 1: Elliott Wolf, what about him?

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Speaker 6: So Elliot Wolf's a director of scouting, but really he's

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Speaker 6: the general manager right now with why does they have

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Speaker 6: the title? I think he'll ultimately get the title mark.

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Speaker 6: I think it's maybe the type of thing where if

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Speaker 6: they gave it to him, they have to go through

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Speaker 6: a process that adheres to Rooney rule and it's possible

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Speaker 6: that they'll still do that, but I think he's the

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Speaker 6: general manager. I honestly don't know. That might be a

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Speaker 6: good question for the owner, Robert Kraft, that I need

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Speaker 6: to ask him while we're here. So I would say

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Speaker 6: I think he's the GM without the title, and he'll

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Speaker 6: ultimately get the title, although I will say Mark, they've

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Speaker 6: never named the GM. They've had vice president of player

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Speaker 6: personnel because they've never really turned the whole like that's

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Speaker 6: thirty one years of ownership, so they've never actually believed

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Speaker 6: in that model. They'll probably name him vice president of

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Speaker 6: player personnel, Mike.

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Speaker 1: When Nick Cassario was still with the Patriots, did you

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Speaker 1: have a chance to talk to him at all?

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Speaker 2: Was he around? Was he accessible?

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Speaker 6: I did so he was accessible, friendly, kind. But the

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Speaker 6: Patriots under Bill Belichick always wanted Bill to be the

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Speaker 6: singular voice, right, so when we heard from Nick, it

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Speaker 6: was maybe leading up to the draft, you know, where

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Speaker 6: he would talk specifically about players that maybe Bill Belichick

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Speaker 6: himself was still catching up on, you know, transitioning from

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Speaker 6: the coach to the personnel side, but otherwise not not

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Speaker 6: that much. And I think from Afar what I've seen,

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Speaker 6: maybe Nick's personality has come out a little bit, and

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Speaker 6: and I love to see that because I think my

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Speaker 6: experience with him mark kind decent man with good ethics

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Speaker 6: and you know, morals and like, but just was so

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Speaker 6: intent on focusing on his role in New England, and

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Speaker 6: that was to be in many ways subservient to Bill

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Speaker 6: Belichick because that's what his boss wanted.

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Speaker 1: Mike Rees joining us from ESPN, So you started with

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Speaker 1: Patriots Media. A lot of people do the opposite, they're

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Speaker 1: an outside media. They joined team media. Maybe not a lot,

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Speaker 1: but some have done it. You did the opposite, and

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Speaker 1: correct me if I'm wrong. I don't know if we

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Speaker 1: talked about this on the air ever, But in the

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Speaker 1: nineties you did a you had the first digital show

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Speaker 1: of any team, right, a ten minute show when everyone's

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Speaker 1: still dial up. And yeah, I can't imagine how how

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Speaker 1: easy it was to watch it. But you did a

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Speaker 1: show almost every day, right.

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Speaker 2: That's straight.

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Speaker 6: It was called Patriots Cyber Sideline on Patriots dot Com.

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Speaker 6: And you would try click on it. And remember when

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Speaker 6: you'd click on something and it wouldn't necessarily video wouldn't

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Speaker 6: play in a little circle rolling on your screen, and

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Speaker 6: that I learned a lot, so that the Craft family,

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Speaker 6: owners of the Patriots. It was like their fourth or

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Speaker 6: fifth year as owners of the team, and they and

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Speaker 6: I remember them saying, Mark, They're like, the World Wide

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Speaker 6: Web is going to change anything. That's how we're how

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Speaker 6: you consume media, and we're going to be ahead of

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Speaker 6: the curve here. And so my first assignment nineteen ninety

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Speaker 6: seven a preseason game, Patriots at Packers, and they said,

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Speaker 6: at the end of the game, just get down on

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Speaker 6: one knee and say something into the camera. We'll put

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Speaker 6: it up on Patriots cybersideline. And that's how it started.

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Speaker 6: And look where we are now.

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Speaker 1: That's incredible stuff. So you went from there to where.

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Speaker 6: So from two years with Patriots Football Weekly Patriots dot Com,

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Speaker 6: then I went to a small local newspaper covering Patriots

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Speaker 6: but also high school sports because my dream was to

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Speaker 6: go to the Boston Globe. Remember when we were at

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Speaker 6: Hugh mass Boston Globe was like that was the standard

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Speaker 6: in Massachusetts, would be like the Houston Chronicle and the

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Speaker 6: heydays of newspapers. Things have changed, you know, business has changed.

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Speaker 6: And then ESPN in two thousand and nine, after the

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Speaker 6: Boston Globe and I've been there since.

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Speaker 1: So the Patriot Dynasty series on Apple TV, what did

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Speaker 1: you think of it? Because you lived through most of that,

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Speaker 1: so what did you think of the way they portrayed everything?

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Speaker 6: So a lot of different thoughts. I think I loved

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Speaker 6: the behind the scenes stuff. So like when you had

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Speaker 6: Tom Brady as a rookie too in the year two

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Speaker 6: thousand in his condo that he bought from ty Law

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Speaker 6: with the old video camera footage you know, you see,

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Speaker 6: like the date in the time. I thought that was fantastic,

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Speaker 6: like because it brought back great memories. I think as

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Speaker 6: the series went on for me, Mark like started to

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Speaker 6: feel like there were some scores being settled and you know,

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Speaker 6: maybe you know, Bill Belichick not necessarily treated the way

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Speaker 6: I probably would have. I didn't think it was like

677
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Speaker 6: the greatest for Bill Belichick, right, and so it left

678
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Speaker 6: me not feeling great by the time I finished it,

679
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Speaker 6: having lived it, because but then I thought to myself,

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Speaker 6: it probably wasn't for me. I mean I covered the

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Speaker 6: thing for pretty much all that time. So they were

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Speaker 6: probably looking to appeal to a wider audience and maybe

683
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Speaker 6: felt like they needed to go in a certain direction

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Speaker 6: to draw people in the nineties.

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Speaker 1: Stuff was great though, Craft bind the team up, all

686
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Speaker 1: the land around the stadium really fascinating stuff there it was.

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Speaker 6: And so here's this season ticket holder who loved the

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Speaker 6: Patriots with his family and he always had a dream

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Speaker 6: to buy the team. But the team had a complicated

690
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Speaker 6: arrangement where playing at Foxboro Stadium, but the parking lots

691
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Speaker 6: around the stadium were owned by someone else. And he

692
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Speaker 6: had the foresight to say, wait a minute, if I'd

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Speaker 6: buy the parking lots around the stadium, then you know,

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Speaker 6: I have some leverage to possibly buy the stadium, which

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Speaker 6: he or some However, it was mark right like. He

696
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Speaker 6: ended up getting the stadium and the land around it.

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Speaker 6: So then when the team tried to leave, they couldn't

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Speaker 6: do it, so they basically had to sell it to him.

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Speaker 6: That's a smart businessman right there.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, Mike RECESPN, all right, one more for you. AFC

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Speaker 1: East Texans play the entire division will be at Jellette

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Speaker 1: this year. I've talked to some AFC East guys here,

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Speaker 1: but how do you assess in a thumbnail or two

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Speaker 1: on the rest of the teams, the rest of the

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Speaker 1: division as you have this challenge ahead.

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Speaker 6: So Patriots obviously looking up Mark had the other three.

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Speaker 6: I think the Jets will be intriguing because does Aaron

708
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Speaker 6: Rodgers come back, and they're obviously going for it, right,

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Speaker 6: They figure they got one year with some of those

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Speaker 6: veteran additions, So I think they'll be the most intriguing

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Speaker 6: team to me in the division. Miami. I'm curious to

712
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Speaker 6: see what that looks like going forward. They've taken some hits,

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Speaker 6: I feel like, and Buffalo I think has taken some

714
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Speaker 6: hits losing some players. So I think every team in

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Speaker 6: the division is sort of like trying to recalibrate, find itself,

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Speaker 6: and we might see the division take a step back

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Speaker 6: as a result of it this year.

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Speaker 1: It'll be interesting. Your thoughts on the outside looking in

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Speaker 1: on the Texans just.

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Speaker 6: So exciting, you know, so obviously personally happy for Nick

721
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Speaker 6: Cassario having to you know, gotten to know him when

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Speaker 6: he was in New England and I think you know,

723
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Speaker 6: been down there for Super Bowls, right, and felt like

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Speaker 6: the organization had had and loved Bill O'Brien when he

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Speaker 6: was there as a New England guy. But the organization

726
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Speaker 6: has had like it's been like a roller coaster, right,

727
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Speaker 6: they've been up like way down and like you had

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Speaker 6: to quot, you got the coach, You're on the way up.

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Speaker 2: Enjoy it.

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Speaker 6: It's so Mark like that's great, Like that's any organization,

731
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Speaker 6: that's what you want. You got it now, right, So

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Speaker 6: enjoy it. That's my view from AFAR.

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much, Mike, great to be with you. There's

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Speaker 1: Mike Rehees from ESPN coming out. Hall of Fame Talk

736
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Speaker 1: with Jeff Joniac kickoff, rule Talk, maybe some other stuff

737
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Speaker 1: coming your way next don Texans All Access. All right,

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Speaker 1: a final segment to the show tonight, and it's a

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Speaker 1: good one because we have Jeff Joniac, the voice of

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Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears, the Texans playing the Bears in the

741
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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame game and again in the regular season.

742
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Speaker 1: So let's check in with Jeff. We need to talk, Jeff,

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Speaker 1: we do. We need to talk because we're gonna see

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Speaker 1: a lot of each other. We've seen a lot of

745
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Speaker 1: each other lately at the Combine and here at the

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Speaker 1: NFL Annual Meeting, and now we're going to see each

747
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Speaker 1: other Hall of Fame game, and it's a very festive

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Speaker 1: event for both franchises.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, absolutely, it was not a surprise for me to

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Speaker 7: hear that whatsoever. Given Devin Hester, Steve McMichael, the legendary

751
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Speaker 7: Bears defensive tack going. Of course, Julius Pepper's with a

752
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Speaker 7: chunk of his career with the Bears. So it's a

753
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Speaker 7: three headed monster headed into Canton. And you know, McMichael

754
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Speaker 7: is the one that folks probably don't discuss enough. Yeah,

755
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Speaker 7: because what he did is quite impressive, but overshadowed quite

756
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Speaker 7: a bit by the names of Dan Hampton and Mike

757
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Speaker 7: Singletary and Jim Bo Covert and Walter Payton of course,

758
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Speaker 7: but McMichael deserved to be in the Hall of Fame

759
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Speaker 7: a long while ago. An iron man in every sense

760
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Speaker 7: of the word. Most games played in Bears histories passed

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Speaker 7: by long snapper Patrick Manley a few years back. But

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Speaker 7: you know, down in and down out, Ming never missed

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Speaker 7: time on the field, and he sacked the quarterback from

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Speaker 7: the interior defensive line position at a rate that probably

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Speaker 7: gets overlooked.

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Speaker 1: I want to talk more about the Hall of Fame,

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Speaker 1: but since you brought it up, that team, Jim McMahon,

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Speaker 1: is he the greatest Bears quarterback ever considered that? I

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Speaker 1: know you're about to draft one probably, but tell me and.

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Speaker 7: Sid Luckman, Yeah, yeah, I mean Jim is beloved, believe me,

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Speaker 7: led him to a super Bowl They're only super Bowl

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Speaker 7: championship obviously, and was a character of all characters and

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Speaker 7: remained such and beloved by Bears fans. But if you're

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Speaker 7: if you're talking about, you know, hall of Fame caliber quarterback, yes,

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Speaker 7: said Luckman.

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Speaker 2: Okay, gotcha? All right?

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Speaker 1: Have you done a Hall of Fame game recently? Have

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Speaker 1: you been there for that experience? Because the first Texans

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Speaker 1: game in history was the Hall of Fame game back

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Speaker 1: in two thousand and two, and I pointed out with

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Speaker 1: the McNair's, hey, it's the only game John Madden ever

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Speaker 1: did of the Houston Texans.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's cool, Yeah, it's cool. Yeah, I looked it up.

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Speaker 2: I was.

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Speaker 1: Melissa Stark was there too. Al Michaels called it was

786
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Speaker 1: against the New York Giants. But what about the Bear

787
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Speaker 1: Do you have any memory of that? Have you been

788
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Speaker 1: there for a Hall of Fame induction? And oh, yes,

789
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Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, I've been there for.

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Speaker 7: I was there for Singletary's induction, was moving speeches of

791
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Speaker 7: all time. I was there for Dan Hampton's I was

792
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Speaker 7: there for Brian or Lacker, and I guessed that his party.

793
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Speaker 7: Brian and I had a great relationship, and that was

794
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,280
Speaker 7: I was meaningful for me and being in that group

795
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Speaker 7: of guys because like you are a soundtrack of the

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Speaker 7: Houston Texans and their careers. I was a soundtrack for

797
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Speaker 7: that team that went to a super Bowl and all

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Speaker 7: those guys are still living in the Chicago area or

799
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Speaker 7: Lacker out in Arizona, but beloved figure and so I've

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Speaker 7: been quite a few times. And one of the first

801
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Speaker 7: games that I had with just a two man booth

802
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Speaker 7: was a Hall of Fame game in Canton, and that

803
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 7: was a funny game because I left my glasses in

804
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 7: the press box and got kickoff and I'm like, where

805
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 7: are my glasses. I almost got arrested by a state

806
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Speaker 7: trooper because I was going and interviewed Love Smith for

807
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 7: pregame and the woman wouldn't let me in, said that

808
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Speaker 7: I'm not allowed I go. I have a pregame interview

809
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Speaker 7: with the head coach, and she was ready to throw

810
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Speaker 7: cuffs on me, and pr came in and said, hey,

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Speaker 7: you're gonna be okay.

812
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Speaker 2: Let him in. He's got to interview the coach.

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Speaker 7: So yeah, all kind of weird things happened, but yeah,

814
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Speaker 7: I love going. You know, I never get tired of

815
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Speaker 7: walking through those halls. I mean, have you ever been there?

816
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Speaker 1: I've been there that year, but it's been a wild

817
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Speaker 1: I mean it's twenty two years ago, right. So Jeff

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Speaker 1: Joniac Voice of the Bears joining us. So what can

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Speaker 1: you tell the listeners right now? Texans fans who want

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Speaker 1: to make the journey to can make it. Make the journey, Okay,

821
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Speaker 1: make the journey. It's it's all about ball.

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Speaker 7: And the town does a great job of expressing itself

823
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Speaker 7: in that there's all sorts of activities. It's absolutely grown

824
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Speaker 7: and mushroomed into something significant. Obviously, back in the day,

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Speaker 7: the game would be played and then you know after

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Speaker 7: the induction. Now it's vice versa, so you get the

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Speaker 7: game will be on it what a Thursday, right, yep,

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Speaker 7: Thursday August first, and then now we play play the

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Speaker 7: Houston Texans and then the introduction. You know, you'll remain

830
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Speaker 7: there and you'll have several days in Canton. But they

831
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Speaker 7: do a great job from from parades to activities, and

832
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 7: they've really grown the whole campus there and continue to

833
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Speaker 7: put it money into it to make it something special.

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Speaker 2: And the Hall is fantastic.

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Speaker 7: It's a great, great venue. If you love the game,

836
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Speaker 7: you'll of walking through that place because it's certainly very

837
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Speaker 7: very impactful.

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Speaker 2: If you're a football fan.

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Speaker 1: All right, a couple more for you Texans and Bears

840
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Speaker 1: playing in the regular season as well.

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Speaker 7: We don't know when were now that we're doing a

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Speaker 7: double dose.

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Speaker 1: Yep, it happens though, And I think in that Hall

844
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Speaker 1: of Fame game, we're not going to see too many

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Speaker 1: of the starts I now. Yeah, but whoever we might

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Speaker 1: draft a quarterback, I'm wondering if we see him or

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Speaker 1: not in that context.

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Speaker 2: I know whoever that young quarterback might be.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, we're definitely going to have a young quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, the Justin Fields deal. Did that surprise you

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00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 1: the way it went down? Where it was that kind

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Speaker 1: of thing?

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Speaker 7: The comp No, I mean, listen from the jump, Ryan

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Speaker 7: Poles and the front office said they were going to

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Speaker 7: do right by Justin. And so they did right by Justin.

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Speaker 7: And it gives them a runway and a rookie contract

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Speaker 7: and the building can continue without being strapped with a big,

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Speaker 7: mega contract for a quarterback. And this is a still

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Speaker 7: a process, and they've been doing it the hard way,

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Speaker 7: which is the right way according to Ryan Poles, and

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Speaker 7: I agree with him, but step by step staircasing it.

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Speaker 7: And so yeah, they've they've paved the way with the

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Speaker 7: additions on offense. What else they're going to get in

864
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Speaker 7: the draft? Defense is loading up. They were great at

865
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Speaker 7: the end of the season taking the ball away, so

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Speaker 7: I think Bears fans are genuinely jacked up. I still

867
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Speaker 7: think there's discussion among the fan base of who they

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Speaker 7: should have kept, and in terms of Justin or a

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Speaker 7: rookie quarterback or having them both there, and but the

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Speaker 7: fact is he gets a chance. And now we've flipped

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Speaker 7: the page. And I frankly, it was such a hot

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Speaker 7: button topic and a focal point of discussion. I'm glad

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00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:43,319
Speaker 7: it's been resolved in the way it's being resolved so

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Speaker 7: that the Bears can now move forward and think about

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Speaker 7: what's next and focusing on building a championship contender.

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Speaker 1: Being in the division. What do you think of the

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Speaker 1: Texans acquisition of Danil Hunter at defensive end.

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Speaker 2: He's a bad man.

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Speaker 7: He's a bad, bad, bad man, and if he stays healthy,

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Speaker 7: he's going to Reek havoc and especially now with Anderson

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Speaker 7: on the other side in your defense and your defensive

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Speaker 7: minded head coach. That's that's a perfect fit, a perfect fit.

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Speaker 7: Hallacious edge rusher. He hurt justin last year, you know,

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Speaker 7: coming off the edge. I think I did the math

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Speaker 7: because I said, oh, you know, we haven't escaped Daniel

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Speaker 7: Hunter yet.

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Speaker 2: We got to play the Texans.

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Speaker 7: But I think seven sacks and fifteen hurries against Bears

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Speaker 7: quarterbacks when he's been healthy. So yeah, he's he's he's legit,

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Speaker 7: he's legit. It should be an ideal fit for you.

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Speaker 2: Guys.

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Speaker 1: What do you think of the rest of that Chicago

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Speaker 1: schedule because you play the whole AFC South.

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Speaker 7: I don't have a memorized yet. You got a probably

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Speaker 7: better memory.

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Speaker 2: Do you have it?

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Speaker 7: You have a memorized well, I know the opponents?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I know that. I don't even have the opponents.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't have I don't have a memorized But

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Speaker 7: when you.

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Speaker 1: Have that number one pick, you're preoccupied with that, right

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Speaker 1: right right.

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Speaker 2: Right, he listen.

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Speaker 7: I don't look at schedules. I look week one week,

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Speaker 7: whatever the coach I am, because it's it's a fruitless task.

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Speaker 2: No, I love it. I love yeah, I mean amnosticating,

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Speaker 2: not me.

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Speaker 7: I don't like you'll never who's gonna win some I'm not.

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Speaker 7: I'm not giving you a prediction or I'm not giving

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Speaker 7: you a score.

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Speaker 2: I'm not.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, but I'm not giving you wins and losses at

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Speaker 7: the month of May.

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Speaker 1: No, I think about where the weather games, where the

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Speaker 1: restaurant reservations.

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Speaker 2: Now that's way down the line, way down the line.

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Speaker 1: But I just want to know you're going, We're going

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Speaker 1: to New England, going to Green Bay.

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Speaker 2: I want to know what those games spots.

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Speaker 1: I saw Matt Lafleur the other day and he said, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I hope we're I hope I see in December.

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Speaker 2: You know, he wants us up there in December, so

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Speaker 2: we'll see how all that go.

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Speaker 7: Oh yeah, So yeah, these are great spots. And of

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Speaker 7: course AFC NFC. You know, you don't get these places

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Speaker 7: very often. Yeah, it's every eight years or whatever, right,

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Speaker 7: So it's a it's a big deal when you get

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Speaker 7: these special trips, and you know you'll love both of

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Speaker 7: those venues and that fan those fan bases as as

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Speaker 7: well as Chicago. So uh, it's gonna be a fun season,

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Speaker 7: no matter what the intrigue surrounding. As you know with

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Speaker 7: a first year quarterback, you're you're from the moment the

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Speaker 7: ota sessions begin until we get to the final whistle

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Speaker 7: of the regular season and hopefully end of the playoffs.

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Speaker 7: The scrutiny and the analysis and the thought process and

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Speaker 7: the decision making and how it all comes together. Bears

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Speaker 7: fans are going to be flocking to camp. They're going

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Speaker 7: to be all dialed in. So it's another new young

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Speaker 7: quarterback to lay their eyes on.

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Speaker 2: It's going to be fun.

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Speaker 1: One more for you, Jeff Joniak, Voice of the Bears

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Speaker 1: kickoff Rule. It's radical, It's radical. Love it, you love it.

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Speaker 7: I don't even know all the details yet because I've

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Speaker 7: been meeting with some coaches and stuff. But the basics.

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Speaker 7: Unless you can tell me what's been tweaked, it had

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Speaker 7: to happen, I cannot. Tom Thayer and my broadcast partner,

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Speaker 7: we were just railing every time that was a touchback

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Speaker 7: or you know, let the ball bounce into the back

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Speaker 7: of the end zone. No, it's a football play. So

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Speaker 7: we're reintroducing hopefully sixteen hundred plus plays and their strategy

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Speaker 7: now Matty Eberflus, the Bears head coach, when asked today

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Speaker 7: at the NFC Coach's Breakfast, you could see when you

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Speaker 7: when you know you got ball coaches they have this

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Speaker 7: rye grin on their face because they know it's a

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Speaker 7: it's football player. So we're gonna be designing some unique stuff. Yep,

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Speaker 7: and uh, I think the fans are gonna we gotta

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Speaker 7: get it, like guys like Cordero Patterson now can get

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Speaker 7: signed because the kick returners on your teams are gonna

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Speaker 7: matter absolutely. The type of players you put on the

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Speaker 7: field is going to matter. And again on the year

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Speaker 7: that Devin Aster becomes the first return specialist to enter

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Speaker 7: the Hall at Halls of Kanton, Ohio.

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Speaker 2: This is big. This is big because it's it's.

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Speaker 7: An important play and it's an exciting play and it

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Speaker 7: can't be a Debbie downer.

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Speaker 2: It just cannot. I agree with you. It's more football. Yes.

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Speaker 1: One of the special teams coaches, I forget which one

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Speaker 1: that they brought out for the press conference, said it's

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Speaker 1: must see TV.

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Speaker 2: Now you have to watch the kickoff.

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Speaker 1: You don't know what's gonna happen, and the ball will

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Speaker 1: be in play because you don't want to You don't

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Speaker 1: want to produce a touch back to the thirty and

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Speaker 1: they wanted it to be the thirty five to automatics

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Speaker 1: first down, Yeah, to really discourage the touchment.

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Speaker 2: Thirty five.

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Speaker 1: You're you're one throw from field goal range with most

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Speaker 1: good quarterbacks.

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Speaker 7: Now, let let's put our analysis cap on is play

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Speaker 7: by play guys.

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Speaker 2: We leave that to our color guys typically.

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Speaker 7: But you know, are we looking at long, longer fields

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Speaker 7: for offenses or are we looking at your I mean,

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Speaker 7: what are we thinking?

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Speaker 1: They want? They want scoring. You're gonna see average drive start.

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Speaker 1: You know it's right around the twenty five now, I

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Speaker 1: think it's gonna bump up. Oh, it's gonna be the

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Speaker 1: thirty thirty thirty five. Yes, average drive start. Absolutely, they

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Speaker 1: know what they're the kickers. I wonder what they're thinking,

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Speaker 1: because they're gonna be now. Really, you want to put

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Speaker 1: it right on the one. You do not the kickoff

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Speaker 1: zone from the goal line to the twenty. It's kind

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Speaker 1: of complicated, but once you get the hang of it,

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Speaker 1: you got to kick it at least to the twenty.

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Speaker 7: Otherwise they get it at the forty, right, I mean

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Speaker 7: that's crazy. No, there's gonna be mishits. Guys are gonna

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Speaker 7: overthink it. Yeah, there's gonna be mishits. I know who's

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Speaker 7: gonna be. The bouncing ball is going to be a

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Speaker 7: major story because hey, you can't control the bounce well,

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Speaker 7: but you can't squib it because if it touches saying

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Speaker 7: though even on the fly, oh yeah yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 7: who knows, right, right, you got to catch that.

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Speaker 2: I like the two returners.

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Speaker 1: You can up to two and then they can you know,

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Speaker 1: they can fake the handoff, the fake a.

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Speaker 2: Da couveral reverses.

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Speaker 7: But listen, I just I think fans are gonna dig it,

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Speaker 7: and I don't want to miss too much.

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Speaker 2: With the integrity of the game.

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Speaker 7: And I know this is on the name of safety,

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Speaker 7: but and I get that, but you know, it's just football, man.

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Speaker 2: It's things are gonna happen. Jeff, it's always a pleasure.

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Speaker 7: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: There's Jeff Joniak, voice of the Chicago Bears Texans Bears

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Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame game August first. Don't miss it,

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Speaker 1: and then at some point in the regular season as well.

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Speaker 1: We had Calan Hanna mcnairon earlier in the program. This

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Speaker 1: will be up in podcast form soon enough, so check

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Speaker 1: it out. And tomorrow night, another banger, a great show

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Speaker 1: for you. At six o'clock, Johnny and I talk about

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Speaker 1: the new rules. Another Texans player guest, you'll have to

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Speaker 1: find out who tomorrow, Area forty five coming up next.

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Speaker 1: Have a great night, Go Texans,